[00:01] ok gotta restart for these updates, brb [00:03] i'm back [00:03] wb [00:04] ok, Dave, what do i do now? [00:04] do you mind if i ca askedll you Dave? just realized i never [00:04] well, what would you like to do next? [00:04] call you dave? just realized i never asked* [00:05] dave is fine, just don't call me late for dinner ;P [00:05] uhm...i need skype and Chrome [00:06] ok, open a terminal copy and paste => sudo apt-get install skype [00:07] or open Software Center and search for skype [00:07] oh thats cool [00:07] you'll have to enter your password either way [00:07] but it cant find skype :/ [00:07] yeah [00:07] hang on [00:07] okay :) [00:08] i downloaded chrome off of mozilla for Xubuntu/linux, is that ok? [00:08] ok, open a terminal copy and paste => sudo apt-get install skype-bin [00:09] or should i have done the software centre [00:09] wilsonjl3: it may work, but better use the software center [00:09] can't find that either :/ [00:09] yes, lets go through Software Center for now. easier on the noobies ;P [00:09] !partner [00:09] Canonical's partner repositories provide a location for software vendors to publish applications. The repo itself can be added by running this in a !terminal: « sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" » [00:10] ok so what do i do with the chrome i just downloaded? [00:10] nothing yet ;P [00:10] lol ok [00:11] i'll just try the software centre [00:11] wilsonjl3: if you find chrome in software center, then ignore the file you downloaded. [00:11] okay [00:11] you still need to add the canonical partner repo to find the package [00:11] how do i do that? O.o [00:11] idek what that is tbh [00:12] no, google chrome isnt there [00:12] neither is skype [00:12] Unit193 sent you the instructions. read up ^^ [00:13] ok, i saw that, but what do i do? i dunno what a canonical partner is, or what a repo is [00:13] wilsonjl3: it is also possible to add partner repo with the gui. do you have "software sources" in the systems menu or in a menu in software center? [00:13] repo is short for repository [00:14] no i don't David-A [00:14] canonical is responsible for Ubuntu and its "flavors" Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Kubuntu, etc [00:15] so...i put skype's Partner in where it says partner? [00:16] ugh so confused [00:16] no, copy and paste the command including sudo from the ubottu instruction into your terminal [00:16] oh [00:16] you've only been at this a few minutes, relax. you'll learn [00:17] sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" [00:18] how do i copy in xubuntu? :p [00:19] ctrl-c and paste ctrl-v just like windows [00:19] not letting me paste into the terminal [00:19] just gonna type it out [00:19] right click near the prompt [00:20] ohhh [00:20] ok what did it do/ [00:21] that command added the repo to your sources list, now, MOST important.... [00:21] sudo apt-get update [00:22] ALWAYS run update after adding repos [00:23] when that's done.... [00:23] sudo apt-get install skype-bin [00:23] sorry im back [00:23] LOL what happened? [00:23] lost conection after i asked that [00:23] ah [00:24] ok, from the top... [00:24] that command added the repo to your sources list, now, MOST important.... [00:24] sudo apt-get update [00:24] ALWAYS run update after adding repos [00:24] when that's done.... [00:24] sudo apt-get install skype-bin [00:25] wilsonjl3: ... or search for skype in software center [00:25] ^^^ [00:25] wilsonjl3: (sorry, I am repeating myself) [00:25] i did david-a :P [00:25] and ok Dave [00:26] ugh more updates [00:26] and i tried switching to wireless :P didnt work [00:26] no, that's just the update list [00:26] oh okay [00:26] yeah its done now [00:27] ok installing skype now [00:27] cool [00:27] now, we'll have to go through this for chrome also when this is done LOL you ready? [00:28] this is pretty cool [00:28] yep [00:28] its still downloading/installing [00:28] should i delete the chrome thing i downloaded? [00:28] not to worry, patience :) [00:28] probably not, what is the extension of the file? if it's .deb no worries [00:29] yep it is [00:29] ill brb while this downloads [00:29] those can be installed through software center directly [00:29] k [00:32] im back [00:33] k [00:33] what can be through software centre? [00:33] the .deb file [00:33] oh [00:33] ok [00:33] so, skype done? [00:33] 92% [00:34] close [00:34] ok, wait [00:34] 95% [00:34] ok, wait until the prompt shows in term [00:34] in term? [00:34] terminal [00:34] ah [00:35] unpacking stuffs now [00:35] excellent, *taps fingers* [00:36] *fidgets impatiently* [00:36] so what type of "coding" does this use? not LUA, right? [00:38] not sure [00:38] ok its done [00:38] ok no problem [00:38] ok, find the chrome .deb file, right click it, "open in software center" [00:39] okay, im here [00:39] ok, find the chrome .deb file, right click it, "open in software center" [00:39] just hit install? [00:39] * David-A wonders, isn't chrome in the repos? [00:40] could be [00:40] oh its installing automatically [00:40] cool [00:40] ahaha so i backed up my pics and stuff before all this but i forgot my music and documents :P [00:40] so dumb [00:42] wilsonjl3: do you mean you have lost your documents? and still laughing? [00:42] yes i have and i am, wh?y [00:42] wish I were you [00:42] most of us would be throwing things [00:42] stuff can be replaced [00:43] haha well i dont have too much on my comp. im a carpenter and electrician so i dont rly need this for anything important or job-related [00:43] (not that I have lost any files, but some day it may happen. then I would like to be you) [00:44] back everything up then? use an extra hard drive or something from an old comp? [00:45] yup, i use Grsync for file-type backups to external 3TB USB drive [00:45] ok, i got chrome and skype installed [00:45] I have another 3TB USB to back that one up [00:45] 3tb usb? [00:45] yup [00:46] didnt even know they had usb that big [00:46] Western Digital MyBook 3TB [00:46] USB up to 4TB on one drive [00:46] 8TB on 2 drives [00:47] wow [00:47] thats insane storage [00:47] Dave, how do i get it to let me connect wirelessly? [00:48] you shoud meet one of the guys on #ubuntu-offtopic he has 36TB [00:48] O.o [00:48] for what? [00:48] holy crap [00:49] danged if i know LOL [00:49] anyway, you'll need the router key [00:49] lol thats insane storage [00:49] t [00:49] i have that [00:49] and its long as a wet sunday [00:50] ok, click the icon top right looks like radar waves (i think) lol [00:51] an arrow pointing up and one pointing down? [00:51] do you see your router SSID? (name) [00:51] yeah [00:51] but there is a lil arrow and i have two options? [00:51] click router name and enter key when prompted [00:53] the connect button is dark, i cant click it [00:53] oh i had a o instad of 0, [00:54] LOL that makes a difference ;P [00:54] it will be a hexadecimal number [00:54] the key [00:57] ok i think im wireless now [00:57] yep i am :) [00:57] you there? [00:57] maybe i am disconnected... [00:57] am here [00:59] ok, disconnect your wired connection and see if it works === bazhang is now known as Guest27723 [01:00] is it working? [01:00] i dont think its working [01:01] yes [01:01] im not getting anything till i plug it back in === bazhang__ is now known as bazhang [01:01] hmmm, check the connection icon again and see if "enable wi-fi" is checked [01:02] yep it is [01:02] is your wi-fi adapter switch on? mine has its own switch [01:03] yeah im using it on my phone right now [01:03] umm, what do you n=mean? [01:03] *mean? [01:03] oh! [01:03] yeah its on [01:04] thought you were wonderine modem was on :Pg if th [01:04] thought you were wondering if the modem was on* [01:04] no, your wi-fi switch on the computer ;P [01:04] is there a way to turn off the clicking when i touch the trackpad? [01:05] umm, somewhere in sound settings i assume [01:05] no [01:05] when i touch the trackpad its like when i leftclick a mouse [01:06] hmm, not sure, are you using both mouse and trackpad? [01:06] no just trackpad [01:07] found it [01:07] ok, i don;t know where click sound is coming from. you sure you're not hitting a left button? [01:08] no its not a sound :P [01:08] i meant it was actualy clicking [01:08] selecting stuff [01:08] left-clicking [01:08] gotcha [01:08] :P [01:08] i hate track pads, mine is disabled [01:08] brb [01:09] ok [01:10] xubuntu is fast [01:20] ok, next? [01:20] uhm... [01:20] i dunno, what else would i need? [01:21] oh i suggest going to software center and installing synaptic package manager [01:22] most everything you need for now is available in software center. explore that for a while [01:22] okay, what is it? [01:22] okay i will [01:22] synaptic is just another way of installing packages [01:23] wilsonjl3: there are many ways to install a package from the repos. 1) the software center, 2) apt-get in the terminal, and 3) synaptic [01:23] like any OS there are multiple way of accomplishing the same thing [01:23] *ways [01:24] mmkay [01:24] i actually like Gdebi for .deb files [01:26] oh, may i recommend HexChat instead of Xchat. it's newer and well maintained. [01:27] okay :) [01:27] Deluge for torrents [01:28] LibreOffice for a free office suite [01:28] office suite? [01:29] word, excel, powerpoint, no outlook [01:29] oh ok [01:29] LibreOffice reads and writes M$ Office files [01:29] Thunderbird with addons, or Evo without addons can be like outlook. [01:30] yes [01:30] Thunderbird is the default Email client [01:31] i use outlook for emails... [01:31] is there a way to set that up? [01:31] not directly but there are many Email programs that are like outlook [01:32] ok [01:32] wilsonjl3: Unit193 gave 2 examples of email programs 3 minutes ago [01:32] yes [01:32] but i was wondering if i could use outlook as is [01:33] actually OpenOffice Calc was the first spreadsheet to support more than 1,000,000 rows [01:33] not sure if it will run under WINE [01:33] !appdb [01:33] The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help [01:33] I'd recommend native, but nevertheless. [01:34] always better to go with a native app. WINE as a last resort [01:34] okay [01:35] i gotta go, need to sleep, work in the morning. [01:36] ok, well, welcome to the wonderful world of Linux, please ask anytime you have questions ;)) [01:36] wilsonjl3: for email, wordprocessing, everything else, try the programs that exist in the software center (the repos), don't think you must use exactly the same programs you have used in windows [01:36] aha okay, thank you guys for all the help :D you guys are awesome [01:36] we try ;P [01:36] and okay, i will david-a [06:23] How come every time I make/add new program item in xfce menu, icon does not appear in menu? (I use .png icon image from program) [06:25] nikolam: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalable_Vector_Graphics [06:30] I also can not run xfce4-appfinder at all anymore (e.g.Alt+F2 does not opens, it was 13.10 updated to 14.04, 64bit) === AntiSpamMeta2 is now known as AntiSpamMeta [06:32] also issuing sudo, I get: "no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory" [06:33] and I borked network configuration somehow even before 14.04 update, so LAN adapter does not share internet connection untill i click on it. [06:33] also xfce indicator applet is crashing for me. [06:33] I think i beter reinstall again 14.04 === AntiSpamMeta_ is now known as AntiSpamMeta [06:36] yeah baizon , but applications only provide .png icons Huh, maybe .png is not supported in xfce? [06:37] I could swear .png icons were working before in xfce [06:37] nikolam: They do. [06:38] well not for me, on 14.04 updated from 13.10 [06:40] like everything is saying to me "you should reinstall, 13.10 update was broken" [06:41] nikolam: Is it full path or single file? And, is the desktop file correctly pointing to it if full path? You do seem to have a few strange issues, yes. === pleia2_ is now known as pleia2 [08:13] HexChat: 2.9.6 ** OS: Linux 3.13.0-24-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Debian jessie/sid ** CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3110M CPU @ 2.40GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.20GHz ** RAM: Physical: 5.7GB, 86.0% free ** Disk: Total: 261.5GB, 89.1% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH ** Ethernet: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. CIe Gigabit Ethernet ** Uptime: 1d 17h 20m 21 [08:13] s ** [08:13] sorry for that. [09:49] could anybody help with my laptop fan speed management? i have tried lm-sensors and fancontrol. fancontrol says that there are no pwm-capable sensors. bios has just a one option about fan (fan always on when AC on) and this option is turned off. i have read a lot of forums for 2 weeks but i still can't solve this problem. i have hp4510s and xubuntu_x64 [10:20] xubuntu542, Maybe something in the biod, but PWM is normally needed for fan contorl [10:20] *control [10:30] bios settings have just one option about fan and this option is turned off as i mentioned earlier... [11:58] Hi all. How do I create a hotspot for my mobile phone using my laptop that is running xubuntu [13:12] Anybody around? [13:30] hi, got a problem, I don't seem to be able to open the application menu editor. can anyone tell me what the program is called so I can try start it from CLI? [13:33] I think it might be whiskersmenu but i get ERROR:/build/buildd/gnome-menus-3.10.1/./libmenu/gmenu-tree.c:4022:preprocess_layout_info: assertion failed: (!directory->preprocessed) [13:33] Aborted (core dumped) when i try start it. [13:36] hmm, seems mv ~/.config/menus/ ~/.config/menus.bak fixed it. [13:46] Isn't it called MenuLibre? [16:07] anybody know how to install version 1.1 and version 1.3 of libfltk? [16:08] !find libfltk [16:08] Found: libfltk1.1, libfltk1.1-dbg, libfltk1.1-dev, libfltk-cairo1.3, libfltk-forms1.3, libfltk-gl1.3, libfltk-images1.3, libfltk1.3, libfltk1.3-compat-headers, libfltk1.3-dbg (and 1 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libfltk&searchon=names&suite=trusty§ion=all [16:09] yeah so i have two packages and one needs each of those [16:10] libfltk1.1-dev and libfltk1.3-dev [16:10] but i install them both and it says i've held broken packages [16:11] what is the actuall error message¿ do you have third pary repositories¿ srofit [16:12] i do this josh@shalom:~$ sudo apt-get install libfltk1.1-dev libfltk1.3-dev [16:12] i get this [16:12] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [16:12] libfltk1.1-dev : Conflicts: libfltk-dev [16:12] libfltk1.3-dev : Conflicts: libfltk-dev [16:12] E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. [16:14] and i guess they are third party repositories [16:14] or one of them is [16:15] the dependant packages === mnepton is now known as mneptok [17:54] having a difficulty with ethernet connection.my lenovo G580 could not find ethernet connection even after connecting to the institute's lan through patch cable. uname -a http://paste.ubuntu.com/7785029/ ifconfig http://paste.ubuntu.com/7785033/ lshw -C network http://paste.ubuntu.com/7785035/ please provide advice. all the links found in google belonged to earlier versions of ubuntu (atleast 1-2 years [17:54] old) [17:55] the basic concept does not change [18:16] hey, i was wondering if its possible to transfer Xubuntu from one flash drive directly to another? [18:16] can i just transfer the files or should i re-download it? [18:18] wilsonjl3: If the drives are identical size you can just use dd [18:18] dd? [18:19] wilsonjl3: for example if original is /dev/sdb and one you want to copy it to is /dev sdc, you would do: sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc [18:19] ( on a linux system) [18:19] ya im usiing xubuntu [18:20] so i just put the name of the usb thing in for sdc and sdb? [18:21] sdc & sdb are the device nodes for the flash drive and hard drive respecively. [18:21] oh [18:22] Do you have more than one hard drive? [18:22] can i copy the OS directly off the hard drive to the other usb? [18:22] no just one [18:22] wilsonjl3: The drive designations may be different than what I gave, it will be specific to your system. To find out which is which, have none plugged in. Then plug the first one, and do: dmesg | tail ...in there will be what drive it is. then plug second one in and same thing. [18:23] ( these instructions assume you are not running your system off the usb stick) [18:23] yeah its on my hard drive [18:25] ok one is sdc(the one i want the stuff on) and the other is sdc1(the one i want it off of) [18:28] Those are the same drive, just different partitions [18:29] wilsonjl3: Drives are like: sdc sdd and so on. Partitons of the same drive are like sdc1 sdc2 and so on. [18:29] run : sudo fdisk -l ,it will list your disks and partitions.s [18:30] -l command wasnt found [18:30] and oh [18:31] ' -l ' is an option for the command ' fdisk ' [18:32] oh i did fdisks, oops [18:33] only one [18:34] Can you paste the output on paste.ubuntu.com ? [18:34] im so new to this [18:34] yep one sec [18:34] Don't worry, it gets easier. Can't learn until you try right? [18:35] i guess so [18:35] * genii makes a fresh pot of coffee [18:35] http://pastebin.com/DaJzS2m7 (this is with both usb drives plugged in, should i take them out?) [18:36] No, leave them in [18:36] No this is good [18:36] ok [18:37] wilsonjl3: Can you also pastebin the result of just: mount [18:38] http://pastebin.com/vnSfk69H here you go [18:41] is that ok? [18:41] run: 'sudo umount /media/wilsonjl3/11A3-B01A; sudo umount /media/wilsonjl3/KINGPIG' [18:41] Sorry for lag, at work here [18:41] whats that gonna do? [18:42] wilsonjl3: That will remove the drives from the file system so that you can copy them directly to each other [18:42] ok i did that [18:43] Do you recall which one had the stuff you wanted? Was it 11A3-B01A or was it KINGPIG ? [18:43] kingpig :P it's an angry birds pig [18:44] wilsonjl3: So in this case to issue: sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc ... and then go grab a coffee [18:45] aha how long is it gonna take? [18:45] A while, copying bit by bit. [18:45] heh okay, no problem [18:45] uhm [18:45] its not doing anything i think [18:48] No output is good [18:48] should it be doing something in the window? [18:48] oh okay [18:49] wilsonjl3: It will just chug a while :) You'll know when it's done when the command prompt returns. [18:50] oke, thank you :) [18:50] can i play a game while it installs or should i leave the comp alone till its done? :p [18:51] You can do any other thing you want, it will not affect the copy [18:51] okay :) [18:53] That is one thing dd could benefit from, a progress indicator. [18:55] or even just something saying something like : "copying, do not remove usb drive" [18:55] just so you know its actualy doing something [18:56] Hm, yes. Although if they have activity lights on the sticks they should be going on and off like mad [18:57] I'm sure it would end up braking someone's workflow. [18:57] ya mine dont :P [18:57] cheap things [19:04] oh do i need an antivirus for xubuntu? [19:05] Nope, just make sure you mainly use the offical repos [19:06] okay :) [19:10] is there a way to move that bar that goes across the top to the side? [19:11] Yeah, right click on the bar and goto properties [19:12] I don't have a Xubuntu box in front of me ATM, let me grab one... [19:13] it says style: (dropdown box here) [19:13] and a checkbox with expand in it [19:14] oh i found it [19:16] ok so the prompt popped up again, it should be copied now? [19:16] Yeah [19:17] how do i remount them? [19:17] Right click, Pannel > Pannel Preferences > Mode > Vertical [19:17] sudo mount /media/wilsonjl3/11A3-B01A; sudo mount /media/wilsonjl3/KINGPIG [19:17] ? [19:17] yeah i found it :3 [19:18] I think Thunar (the file manager) will do it [19:19] okay [19:19] Just unplug and replug them [19:19] that wont corrupt the data or anything? [19:20] As long as they are umounted you're fine. [19:20] okay [19:20] how to make skype working on 64bit? [19:20] I used to preload some libs, but it soed not work anymore [19:21] right question is: how to make skype working with webcam on 64bit? [19:22] it works fine for me... [19:22] nikolam: It won't install? [19:23] nikolam: Try going to Setttings > Software & Updates and make sure all the sources are enabled [19:27] is there a way to rename the flash drive? [19:29] I used to preload some libs, but it soed not work anymore [19:29] doubleplusgood, I installed it, sorry, but webcam does not work on 64 bit before 32bit libraries are preloaded [19:29] and it used to work like that but not anymore 14.04 [19:30] wisonjl3: I think you can use ' gparted ' to rename it. [19:30] is that a program? [19:31] nikolam: Hmm, do you know what libs are missing? [19:31] wisonjl3: Yup [19:31] doubleplusgood, because it used to work before when preload them [19:32] I have a problem with my software updater: it is downloading unsupported updates, and I don't know if that is helping me or is a security risk [19:32] Also, I don't recall ever enabling unsupported updates [19:32] wisonjl3: ' sudo apt-get install gparted ' and ' sudo gparted ' then right click on the flash drive you want to rename and choose ' Label ' [19:33] I tried resolving this problem in the ubuntu channel, and they asked me to get screen shots, but I had problems posting them until now [19:34]