[00:01] <wilsonjl3> ok gotta restart for these updates, brb
[00:03] <wilsonjl3> i'm back
[00:03] <ObrienDave> wb
[00:04] <wilsonjl3> ok, Dave, what do i do now?
[00:04] <wilsonjl3> do you mind if i ca askedll you Dave? just realized i never
[00:04] <ObrienDave> well, what would you like to do next?
[00:04] <wilsonjl3> call you dave? just realized i never asked*
[00:05] <ObrienDave> dave is fine, just don't call me late for dinner ;P
[00:05] <wilsonjl3> uhm...i need skype and Chrome
[00:06] <ObrienDave> ok, open a terminal copy and paste => sudo apt-get install skype
[00:07] <ObrienDave> or open Software Center and search for skype
[00:07] <wilsonjl3> oh thats cool
[00:07] <ObrienDave> you'll have to enter your password either way
[00:07] <wilsonjl3> but it cant find skype :/
[00:07] <wilsonjl3> yeah
[00:07] <ObrienDave> hang on
[00:07] <wilsonjl3> okay :)
[00:08] <wilsonjl3> i downloaded chrome off of mozilla for Xubuntu/linux, is that ok?
[00:08] <ObrienDave> ok, open a terminal copy and paste => sudo apt-get install skype-bin
[00:09] <wilsonjl3> or should i have done the software centre
[00:09] <David-A> wilsonjl3: it may work, but better use the software center
[00:09] <wilsonjl3> can't find that either :/
[00:09] <ObrienDave> yes, lets go through Software Center for now. easier on the noobies ;P
[00:09] <Unit193> !partner
[00:10] <wilsonjl3> ok so what do i do with the chrome i just downloaded?
[00:10] <ObrienDave> nothing yet ;P
[00:10] <wilsonjl3> lol ok
[00:11] <wilsonjl3> i'll just try the software centre
[00:11] <David-A> wilsonjl3: if you find chrome in software center, then ignore the file you downloaded.
[00:11] <wilsonjl3> okay
[00:11] <ObrienDave> you still need to add the canonical partner repo to find the package
[00:11] <wilsonjl3> how do i do that? O.o
[00:11] <wilsonjl3> idek what that is tbh
[00:12] <wilsonjl3> no, google chrome isnt there
[00:12] <wilsonjl3> neither is skype
[00:12] <ObrienDave> Unit193 sent you the instructions. read up ^^
[00:13] <wilsonjl3> ok, i saw that, but what do i do? i dunno what a canonical partner is, or what a repo is
[00:13] <David-A> wilsonjl3: it is also possible to add partner repo with the gui. do you have "software sources" in the systems menu or in a menu in software center?
[00:13] <ObrienDave> repo is short for repository
[00:14] <wilsonjl3> no i don't David-A
[00:14] <ObrienDave> canonical is responsible for Ubuntu and its "flavors" Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Kubuntu, etc
[00:15] <wilsonjl3> so...i put skype's Partner in where it says partner?
[00:16] <wilsonjl3> ugh so confused
[00:16] <ObrienDave> no, copy and paste the command including sudo from the ubottu instruction into your terminal
[00:16] <wilsonjl3> oh
[00:16] <ObrienDave> you've only been at this a few minutes, relax. you'll learn
[00:17] <ObrienDave> sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner"
[00:18] <wilsonjl3> how do i copy in xubuntu? :p
[00:19] <ObrienDave> ctrl-c and paste ctrl-v just like windows
[00:19] <wilsonjl3> not letting me paste into the terminal
[00:19] <wilsonjl3> just gonna type it out
[00:19] <ObrienDave> right click near the prompt
[00:20] <wilsonjl3> ohhh
[00:20] <wilsonjl3> ok what did it do/
[00:21] <ObrienDave> that command added the repo to your sources list, now, MOST important....
[00:21] <ObrienDave> sudo apt-get update
[00:22] <ObrienDave> ALWAYS run update after adding repos
[00:23] <ObrienDave> when that's done....
[00:23] <ObrienDave> sudo apt-get install skype-bin
[00:23] <wilsonjl3> sorry im back
[00:23] <ObrienDave> LOL what happened?
[00:23] <wilsonjl3> lost conection after i asked that
[00:23] <ObrienDave> ah
[00:24] <ObrienDave> ok, from the top...
[00:24] <ObrienDave> that command added the repo to your sources list, now, MOST important....
[00:24] <ObrienDave> sudo apt-get update
[00:24] <ObrienDave> ALWAYS run update after adding repos
[00:24] <ObrienDave> when that's done....
[00:24] <ObrienDave> sudo apt-get install skype-bin
[00:25] <David-A> wilsonjl3: ... or search for skype in software center
[00:25] <ObrienDave> ^^^
[00:25] <David-A> wilsonjl3: (sorry, I am repeating myself)
[00:25] <wilsonjl3> i did david-a :P
[00:25] <wilsonjl3> and ok Dave
[00:26] <wilsonjl3> ugh more updates
[00:26] <wilsonjl3> and i tried switching to wireless :P didnt work
[00:26] <ObrienDave> no, that's just the update list
[00:26] <wilsonjl3> oh okay
[00:26] <wilsonjl3> yeah its done now
[00:27] <wilsonjl3> ok installing skype now
[00:27] <ObrienDave> cool
[00:27] <ObrienDave> now, we'll have to go through this for chrome also when this is done LOL you ready?
[00:28] <wilsonjl3> this is pretty cool
[00:28] <wilsonjl3> yep
[00:28] <wilsonjl3> its still downloading/installing
[00:28] <wilsonjl3> should i delete the chrome thing i downloaded?
[00:28] <ObrienDave> not to worry, patience :)
[00:28] <ObrienDave> probably not, what is the extension of the file? if it's .deb no worries
[00:29] <wilsonjl3> yep it is
[00:29] <wilsonjl3> ill brb while this downloads
[00:29] <ObrienDave> those can be installed through software center directly
[00:29] <ObrienDave> k
[00:32] <wilsonjl3> im back
[00:33] <ObrienDave> k
[00:33] <wilsonjl3> what can be through software centre?
[00:33] <ObrienDave> the .deb file
[00:33] <wilsonjl3> oh
[00:33] <wilsonjl3> ok
[00:33] <ObrienDave> so, skype done?
[00:33] <wilsonjl3> 92%
[00:34] <wilsonjl3> close
[00:34] <ObrienDave> ok, wait
[00:34] <wilsonjl3> 95%
[00:34] <ObrienDave> ok, wait until the prompt shows in term
[00:34] <wilsonjl3> in term?
[00:34] <ObrienDave> terminal
[00:34] <wilsonjl3> ah
[00:35] <wilsonjl3> unpacking stuffs now
[00:35] <ObrienDave> excellent, *taps fingers*
[00:36] <wilsonjl3> *fidgets impatiently*
[00:36] <wilsonjl3> so what type of "coding" does this use? not LUA, right?
[00:38] <ObrienDave> not sure
[00:38] <wilsonjl3> ok its done
[00:38] <wilsonjl3> ok no problem
[00:38] <ObrienDave> ok, find the chrome .deb file, right click it, "open in software center"
[00:39] <wilsonjl3> okay, im here
[00:39] <ObrienDave> ok, find the chrome .deb file, right click it, "open in software center"
[00:39] <wilsonjl3> just hit install?
[00:39]  * David-A wonders, isn't chrome in the repos?
[00:40] <ObrienDave> could be
[00:40] <wilsonjl3> oh its installing automatically
[00:40] <ObrienDave> cool
[00:40] <wilsonjl3> ahaha so i backed up my pics and stuff before all this but i forgot my music and documents :P
[00:40] <wilsonjl3> so dumb
[00:42] <David-A> wilsonjl3: do you mean you have lost your documents? and still laughing?
[00:42] <wilsonjl3> yes i have and i am, wh?y
[00:42] <David-A> wish I were you
[00:42] <ObrienDave> most of us would be throwing things
[00:42] <wilsonjl3> stuff can be replaced
[00:43] <wilsonjl3> haha well i dont have too much on my comp. im a carpenter and electrician so i dont rly need this for anything important or job-related
[00:43] <David-A> (not that I have lost any files, but some day it may happen. then I would like to be you)
[00:44] <wilsonjl3> back everything up then? use an extra hard drive or something from an old comp?
[00:45] <ObrienDave> yup, i use Grsync for file-type backups to external 3TB USB drive
[00:45] <wilsonjl3> ok, i got chrome and skype installed
[00:45] <ObrienDave> I have another 3TB USB to back that one up
[00:45] <wilsonjl3> 3tb usb?
[00:45] <ObrienDave> yup
[00:46] <wilsonjl3> didnt even know they had usb that big
[00:46] <ObrienDave> Western Digital MyBook 3TB
[00:46] <ObrienDave> USB up to 4TB on one drive
[00:46] <ObrienDave> 8TB on 2 drives
[00:47] <wilsonjl3> wow
[00:47] <wilsonjl3> thats insane storage
[00:47] <wilsonjl3> Dave, how do i get it to let me connect wirelessly?
[00:48] <ObrienDave> you shoud meet one of the guys on #ubuntu-offtopic he has 36TB
[00:48] <wilsonjl3> O.o
[00:48] <wilsonjl3> for what?
[00:48] <wilsonjl3> holy crap
[00:49] <ObrienDave> danged  if i know LOL
[00:49] <ObrienDave> anyway, you'll need the router key
[00:49] <wilsonjl3> lol thats insane storage
[00:49] <wilsonjl3> t
[00:49] <wilsonjl3> i have that
[00:49] <wilsonjl3> and its long as a wet sunday
[00:50] <ObrienDave> ok, click the icon top right looks like radar waves (i think) lol
[00:51] <wilsonjl3> an arrow pointing up and one pointing down?
[00:51] <ObrienDave> do you see your router SSID? (name)
[00:51] <wilsonjl3> yeah
[00:51] <wilsonjl3> but there is a lil arrow and i have two options?
[00:51] <ObrienDave> click router name and enter key when prompted
[00:53] <wilsonjl3> the connect button is dark, i cant click it
[00:53] <wilsonjl3> oh i had a o instad of 0,
[00:54] <ObrienDave> LOL that makes a difference ;P
[00:54] <ObrienDave> it will be a hexadecimal number
[00:54] <ObrienDave> the key
[00:57] <wilsonjl3> ok i think im wireless now
[00:57] <wilsonjl3> yep i am :)
[00:57] <wilsonjl3> you there?
[00:57] <wilsonjl3> maybe i am disconnected...
[00:57] <ObrienDave> am here
[00:59] <ObrienDave> ok, disconnect your wired connection and see if it works
[01:00] <wilsonjl3> is it working?
[01:00] <wilsonjl3> i dont think its working
[01:01] <ObrienDave> yes
[01:01] <wilsonjl3> im not getting anything till i plug it back in
[01:01] <ObrienDave> hmmm, check the connection icon again and see if "enable wi-fi" is checked
[01:02] <wilsonjl3> yep it is
[01:02] <ObrienDave> is your wi-fi adapter switch on? mine has its own switch
[01:03] <wilsonjl3> yeah im using it on my phone right now
[01:03] <ObrienDave> umm, what do you n=mean?
[01:03] <ObrienDave> *mean?
[01:03] <wilsonjl3> oh!
[01:03] <wilsonjl3> yeah its on
[01:04] <wilsonjl3> thought you were wonderine modem was on :Pg if th
[01:04] <wilsonjl3> thought you were wondering if the modem was on*
[01:04] <ObrienDave> no, your wi-fi switch on the computer ;P
[01:04] <wilsonjl3> is there a way to turn off the clicking when i touch the trackpad?
[01:05] <ObrienDave> umm, somewhere in sound settings i assume
[01:05] <wilsonjl3> no
[01:05] <wilsonjl3> when i touch the trackpad its like when i leftclick a mouse
[01:06] <ObrienDave> hmm, not sure, are you using both mouse and trackpad?
[01:06] <wilsonjl3> no just trackpad
[01:07] <wilsonjl3> found it
[01:07] <ObrienDave> ok, i don;t know where click sound is coming from. you sure you're not hitting a left button?
[01:08] <wilsonjl3> no its not a sound :P
[01:08] <wilsonjl3> i meant it was actualy clicking
[01:08] <wilsonjl3> selecting stuff
[01:08] <wilsonjl3> left-clicking
[01:08] <ObrienDave> gotcha
[01:08] <wilsonjl3> :P
[01:08] <ObrienDave> i hate track pads, mine is disabled
[01:08] <ObrienDave> brb
[01:09] <wilsonjl3> ok
[01:10] <wilsonjl3> xubuntu is fast
[01:20] <ObrienDave> ok, next?
[01:20] <wilsonjl3> uhm...
[01:20] <wilsonjl3> i dunno, what else would i need?
[01:21] <ObrienDave> oh i suggest going to software center and installing synaptic package manager
[01:22] <ObrienDave> most everything you need for now is available in software center. explore that for a while
[01:22] <wilsonjl3> okay, what is it?
[01:22] <wilsonjl3> okay i will
[01:22] <ObrienDave> synaptic is just another way of installing packages
[01:23] <David-A> wilsonjl3: there are many ways to install a package from the repos. 1) the software center, 2) apt-get in the terminal, and 3) synaptic
[01:23] <ObrienDave> like any OS there are multiple way of accomplishing the same thing
[01:23] <ObrienDave> *ways
[01:24] <wilsonjl3> mmkay
[01:24] <ObrienDave> i actually like Gdebi for .deb files
[01:26] <ObrienDave> oh, may i recommend HexChat instead of Xchat. it's newer and well maintained.
[01:27] <wilsonjl3> okay :)
[01:27] <ObrienDave> Deluge for torrents
[01:28] <ObrienDave> LibreOffice for a free office suite
[01:28] <wilsonjl3> office suite?
[01:29] <ObrienDave> word, excel, powerpoint, no outlook
[01:29] <wilsonjl3> oh ok
[01:29] <ObrienDave> LibreOffice reads and writes M$ Office files
[01:29] <Unit193> Thunderbird with addons, or Evo without addons can be like outlook.
[01:30] <ObrienDave> yes
[01:30] <ObrienDave> Thunderbird is the default Email client
[01:31] <wilsonjl3> i use outlook for emails...
[01:31] <wilsonjl3> is there a way to set that up?
[01:31] <ObrienDave> not directly but there are many Email programs that are like outlook
[01:32] <wilsonjl3> ok
[01:32] <David-A> wilsonjl3: Unit193 gave 2 examples of email programs 3 minutes ago
[01:32] <wilsonjl3> yes
[01:32] <wilsonjl3> but i was wondering if i could use outlook as is
[01:33] <ObrienDave> actually OpenOffice Calc was the first spreadsheet to support more than 1,000,000 rows
[01:33] <ObrienDave> not sure if it will run under WINE
[01:33] <Unit193> !appdb
[01:33] <Unit193> I'd recommend native, but nevertheless.
[01:34] <ObrienDave> always better to go with a native app. WINE as a last resort
[01:34] <wilsonjl3> okay
[01:35] <wilsonjl3> i gotta go, need to sleep, work in the morning.
[01:36] <ObrienDave> ok, well, welcome to the wonderful world of Linux, please ask anytime you have questions ;))
[01:36] <David-A> wilsonjl3: for email, wordprocessing, everything else, try the programs that exist in the software center (the repos), don't think you must use exactly the same programs you have used in windows
[01:36] <wilsonjl3> aha okay, thank you guys for all the help :D you guys are awesome
[01:36] <ObrienDave> we try ;P
[01:36] <wilsonjl3> and okay, i will david-a
[06:23] <nikolam> How come every time I make/add new program item in xfce menu, icon does not appear in menu? (I use .png icon image from program)
[06:25] <baizon> nikolam: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalable_Vector_Graphics
[06:30] <nikolam> I also can not run xfce4-appfinder at all anymore (e.g.Alt+F2 does not opens, it was 13.10 updated to 14.04, 64bit)
[06:32] <nikolam> also issuing sudo, I get: "no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory"
[06:33] <nikolam> and I borked network configuration somehow even before 14.04 update, so LAN adapter does not share internet connection untill i click on it.
[06:33] <nikolam> also xfce indicator applet is crashing for me.
[06:33] <nikolam> I think i beter reinstall again 14.04
[06:36] <nikolam> yeah baizon , but applications only provide .png icons Huh, maybe .png is not supported in xfce?
[06:37] <nikolam> I could swear .png icons were working before in xfce
[06:37] <Unit193> nikolam: They do.
[06:38] <nikolam> well not for me, on 14.04 updated from 13.10
[06:40] <nikolam> like everything is saying to me "you should reinstall, 13.10 update was broken"
[06:41] <Unit193> nikolam: Is it full path or single file?  And, is the desktop file correctly pointing to it if full path?  You do seem to have a few strange issues, yes.
[08:13] <james0r>  HexChat: 2.9.6 ** OS: Linux 3.13.0-24-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Debian jessie/sid ** CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3110M CPU @ 2.40GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.20GHz ** RAM: Physical: 5.7GB, 86.0% free ** Disk: Total: 261.5GB, 89.1% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH ** Ethernet: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. CIe Gigabit Ethernet ** Uptime: 1d 17h 20m 21
[08:13] <james0r> s **
[08:13] <james0r> sorry for that.
[09:49] <xubuntu542> could anybody help with my laptop fan speed management? i have tried lm-sensors and fancontrol. fancontrol says that there are no pwm-capable sensors. bios has just a one option about fan (fan always on when AC on) and this option is turned off. i have read a lot of forums for 2 weeks but i still can't solve this problem. i have hp4510s and xubuntu_x64
[10:20] <Noskcaj> xubuntu542, Maybe something in the biod, but PWM is normally needed for fan contorl
[10:20] <Noskcaj> *control
[10:30] <xubuntu542> bios settings have just one option about fan and this option is turned off as i mentioned earlier...
[11:58] <jawwwer> Hi all. How do I create a hotspot for my mobile phone using my laptop that is running xubuntu
[13:12] <jawwwer> Anybody around?
[13:30] <recon_lap> hi, got a problem, I don't seem to be able to open the application menu editor. can anyone tell me what the program is called so I can try start it from CLI?
[13:33] <recon_lap> I think it might be whiskersmenu but i get ERROR:/build/buildd/gnome-menus-3.10.1/./libmenu/gmenu-tree.c:4022:preprocess_layout_info: assertion failed: (!directory->preprocessed)
[13:33] <recon_lap> Aborted (core dumped) when i try start it.
[13:36] <recon_lap> hmm, seems mv ~/.config/menus/ ~/.config/menus.bak fixed it.
[13:46] <knomt> Isn't it called MenuLibre?
[16:07] <srofit> anybody know how to install version 1.1 and version 1.3 of libfltk?
[16:08] <xangua> !find libfltk
[16:09] <srofit> yeah so i have two packages and one needs each of those
[16:10] <srofit> libfltk1.1-dev and libfltk1.3-dev
[16:10] <srofit> but i install them both and it says i've held broken packages
[16:11] <xangua> what is the actuall error message¿ do you have third pary repositories¿ srofit
[16:12] <srofit> i do this josh@shalom:~$ sudo apt-get install libfltk1.1-dev libfltk1.3-dev
[16:12] <srofit> i get this
[16:12] <srofit> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[16:12] <srofit>  libfltk1.1-dev : Conflicts: libfltk-dev
[16:12] <srofit>  libfltk1.3-dev : Conflicts: libfltk-dev
[16:12] <srofit> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[16:14] <srofit> and i guess they are third party repositories
[16:14] <srofit> or one of them is
[16:15] <srofit> the dependant packages
[17:54] <abhra> having a difficulty with ethernet connection.my lenovo G580  could not find ethernet connection even after connecting to the institute's lan through patch cable. uname -a http://paste.ubuntu.com/7785029/  ifconfig http://paste.ubuntu.com/7785033/  lshw -C network  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7785035/ please provide advice. all the links found in google belonged to earlier versions of ubuntu (atleast 1-2 years
[17:54] <abhra>  old)
[17:55] <ObrienDave> the basic concept does not change
[18:16] <wilsonjl3> hey, i was wondering if its possible to transfer Xubuntu from one flash drive directly to another?
[18:16] <wilsonjl3> can i just transfer the files or should i re-download it?
[18:18] <genii> wilsonjl3: If the drives are identical size you can just use dd
[18:18] <wilsonjl3> dd?
[18:19] <genii> wilsonjl3: for example if original is /dev/sdb and one you want to copy it to is /dev sdc, you would do:  sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc
[18:19] <genii> ( on a linux system)
[18:19] <wilsonjl3> ya im usiing xubuntu
[18:20] <wilsonjl3> so i just put the name of the usb thing in for sdc and sdb?
[18:21] <doubleplusgood> sdc & sdb are the device nodes for the flash drive and hard drive respecively.
[18:21] <wilsonjl3> oh
[18:22] <doubleplusgood> Do you have more than one hard drive?
[18:22] <wilsonjl3> can i copy the OS directly off the hard drive to the other usb?
[18:22] <wilsonjl3> no just one
[18:22] <genii> wilsonjl3: The drive designations may be different than what I gave, it will be specific to your system. To find out which is which, have none plugged in. Then plug the first one, and do: dmesg | tail   ...in there will be what drive it is. then plug second one in and same thing.
[18:23] <genii> ( these instructions assume you are not running your system off the usb stick)
[18:23] <wilsonjl3> yeah its on my hard drive
[18:25] <wilsonjl3> ok one is sdc(the one i want the stuff on) and the other is sdc1(the one i want it off of)
[18:28] <genii> Those are the same drive, just different partitions
[18:29] <genii> wilsonjl3: Drives are like: sdc sdd  and so on. Partitons of the same drive are like sdc1 sdc2  and so on.
[18:29] <doubleplusgood> run : sudo fdisk -l ,it will list your disks and partitions.s
[18:30] <wilsonjl3> -l command wasnt found
[18:30] <wilsonjl3> and oh
[18:31] <doubleplusgood> ' -l ' is an option for the command ' fdisk '
[18:32] <wilsonjl3> oh i did fdisks, oops
[18:33] <wilsonjl3> only one
[18:34] <doubleplusgood> Can you paste the output on paste.ubuntu.com ?
[18:34] <wilsonjl3> im so new to this
[18:34] <wilsonjl3> yep one sec
[18:34] <doubleplusgood> Don't worry, it gets easier. Can't learn until you try right?
[18:35] <wilsonjl3> i guess so
[18:35]  * genii makes a fresh pot of coffee
[18:35] <wilsonjl3> http://pastebin.com/DaJzS2m7 (this is with both usb drives plugged in, should i take them out?)
[18:36] <genii> No, leave them in
[18:36] <doubleplusgood> No this is good
[18:36] <wilsonjl3> ok
[18:37] <genii> wilsonjl3: Can you also pastebin the result of just:  mount
[18:38] <wilsonjl3> http://pastebin.com/vnSfk69H here you go
[18:41] <wilsonjl3> is that ok?
[18:41] <doubleplusgood> run: 'sudo umount /media/wilsonjl3/11A3-B01A; sudo umount /media/wilsonjl3/KINGPIG'
[18:41] <genii> Sorry for lag, at work here
[18:41] <wilsonjl3> whats that gonna do?
[18:42] <genii> wilsonjl3: That will remove the drives from the file system so that you can copy them directly to each other
[18:42] <wilsonjl3> ok i did that
[18:43] <genii> Do you recall which one had the stuff you wanted? Was it 11A3-B01A or was it KINGPIG ?
[18:43] <wilsonjl3> kingpig :P it's an angry birds pig
[18:44] <genii> wilsonjl3: So in this case to issue:  sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc       ... and then go grab a coffee
[18:45] <wilsonjl3> aha how long is it gonna take?
[18:45] <doubleplusgood> A while, copying bit by bit.
[18:45] <wilsonjl3> heh okay, no problem
[18:45] <wilsonjl3> uhm
[18:45] <wilsonjl3> its not doing anything i think
[18:48] <doubleplusgood> No output is good
[18:48] <wilsonjl3> should it be doing something in the window?
[18:48] <wilsonjl3> oh okay
[18:49] <genii> wilsonjl3: It will just chug a while :) You'll know when it's done when the command prompt returns.
[18:50] <wilsonjl3> oke, thank you :)
[18:50] <wilsonjl3> can i play a game while it installs or should i leave the comp alone till its done? :p
[18:51] <genii> You can do any other thing you want, it will not affect the copy
[18:51] <wilsonjl3> okay :)
[18:53] <genii> That is one thing dd could benefit from, a progress indicator.
[18:55] <wilsonjl3> or even just something saying something like : "copying, do not remove usb drive"
[18:55] <wilsonjl3> just so you know its actualy doing something
[18:56] <genii> Hm, yes. Although if they have activity lights on the sticks they should be going on and off like mad
[18:57] <doubleplusgood> I'm sure it would end up braking someone's workflow.
[18:57] <wilsonjl3> ya mine dont :P
[18:57] <wilsonjl3> cheap things
[19:04] <wilsonjl3> oh do i need an antivirus for xubuntu?
[19:05] <doubleplusgood> Nope, just make sure you mainly use the offical repos
[19:06] <wilsonjl3> okay :)
[19:10] <wilsonjl3> is there a way to move that bar that goes across the top to the side?
[19:11] <doubleplusgood> Yeah, right click on the bar and goto properties
[19:12] <doubleplusgood> I don't have a Xubuntu box in front of me ATM, let me grab one...
[19:13] <wilsonjl3> it says style: (dropdown box here)
[19:13] <wilsonjl3> and a checkbox with expand in it
[19:14] <wilsonjl3> oh i found it
[19:16] <wilsonjl3> ok so the prompt popped up again, it should be copied now?
[19:16] <doubleplusgood> Yeah
[19:17] <wilsonjl3> how do i remount them?
[19:17] <doubleplusgood> Right click, Pannel > Pannel Preferences > Mode > Vertical
[19:17] <wilsonjl3> sudo mount /media/wilsonjl3/11A3-B01A; sudo mount /media/wilsonjl3/KINGPIG
[19:17] <wilsonjl3> ?
[19:17] <wilsonjl3> yeah i found it :3
[19:18] <doubleplusgood> I think Thunar (the file manager) will do it
[19:19] <wilsonjl3> okay
[19:19] <doubleplusgood> Just unplug and replug them
[19:19] <wilsonjl3> that wont corrupt the data or anything?
[19:20] <doubleplusgood> As long as they are umounted you're fine.
[19:20] <wilsonjl3> okay
[19:20] <nikolam> how to make skype working on 64bit?
[19:20] <nikolam> I used to preload some libs, but it soed not work anymore
[19:21] <nikolam> right question is: how to make skype working with webcam on 64bit?
[19:22] <wilsonjl3> it works fine for me...
[19:22] <doubleplusgood> nikolam: It won't install?
[19:23] <doubleplusgood> nikolam: Try going to Setttings > Software & Updates and make sure all the sources are enabled
[19:27] <wilsonjl3> is there a way to rename the flash drive?
[19:29] <nikolam> I used to preload some libs, but it soed not work anymore
[19:29] <nikolam> doubleplusgood, I installed it, sorry, but webcam does not work on 64 bit before 32bit libraries are preloaded
[19:29] <nikolam> and it used to work like that but not anymore 14.04
[19:30] <doubleplusgood> wisonjl3: I think you can use ' gparted ' to rename it.
[19:30] <wilsonjl3> is that a program?
[19:31] <doubleplusgood> nikolam: Hmm, do you know what libs are missing?
[19:31] <doubleplusgood> wisonjl3: Yup
[19:31] <nikolam> doubleplusgood, because it used to work before when preload them
[19:32] <SamwiseGamgee> I have a problem with my software updater: it is downloading unsupported updates, and I don't know if that is helping me or is a security risk
[19:32] <SamwiseGamgee> Also, I don't recall ever enabling unsupported updates
[19:32] <doubleplusgood> wisonjl3: ' sudo apt-get install gparted ' and ' sudo gparted ' then right click on the flash drive you want to rename and choose ' Label '
[19:33] <SamwiseGamgee> I tried resolving this problem in the ubuntu channel, and they asked me to get screen shots, but I had problems posting them until now
[19:34] <David-A> wilsonjl3: you can also install gparted via the software center, and then start it from the systems menu.
[19:34] <doubleplusgood> SamwiseGamgee: Unsupported means that if it doesn't function correctly, it's not Cononical's fault. Not really a security risk, mainly a stabillity one
[19:35] <wilsonjl3> ok thanks
[19:35] <doubleplusgood> nikolam: One second and I'll try testing it on my install
[19:35] <wilsonjl3> both of you
[19:35] <SamwiseGamgee> But why do I even need unsupported updates?
[19:36] <SamwiseGamgee> all the apps I am using should be supported, as far as I know
[19:36] <SamwiseGamgee> and how come I never noticed before that I have been downloading unsupported updates?
[19:37] <nikolam> I used to do this: #!/bin/bash      Exec=env LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libv41/v411compat.so /usr/bin/skype
[19:38] <SamwiseGamgee> If I disable downloading of unsupported updates, will some of my apps start causing problems?  Or is it safer to leave them?
[19:39] <SamwiseGamgee> It just seems that I am doing too many updates too often, updates which are hogging a lot of memory
[19:40] <doubleplusgood> SamwiseGamgee: You could try setting up updates to be less frequent
[19:41] <SamwiseGamgee> but I was told I should update as oftenn as possible for security reasons
[19:52] <doubleplusgood> nikolam: Sorry for the delay, trying to find those libs
[19:53] <doubleplusgood> SanwiseGamgee: Disabling 'unsupported' should be fine if you don't have any pkgs from 'unsupported'
[20:06] <doubleplusgood> nikolam: Seems to work fine for me :/
[20:08] <doubleplusgood> SamwiseGamgee: Do you have specific security concerns?
[20:09] <SamwiseGamgee> ubuntu guys said I don't have to worry about the unsupported updates for security
[20:26] <SamwiseGamgee> ubuntu experts from ubuntu channel solved my problem
[20:31] <wilsonjl3> hey guys, why cant i watch netflix on my comp? :P
[20:31] <wilsonjl3> do i need to download something?
[20:33] <doubleplusgood> Netflix uses Sliverlight which is properitary. You can install ' pipelight ' to get around it.
[20:33] <wilsonjl3> okay
[20:33] <wilsonjl3> thanks again good :D
[20:34] <doubleplusgood> There are a couple tutorials on the web on how to do it
[20:35] <wilsonjl3> hey, uhm...how do i download pipelight?
[20:35] <wilsonjl3> i cant find it on the software centre
[20:35] <doubleplusgood> There are a couple tutorials on the web on how to do it, let me find one
[20:36] <doubleplusgood> http://itsfoss.com/netflix-ubuntu-1404-desktop-app/
[20:37] <genii> There's also a PPA
[20:37] <doubleplusgood> That one worked for me last time
[20:37] <doubleplusgood> It's going through wine so there is a performance hit, but it does work.
[20:37] <genii> Yup
[20:41] <wilsonjl3> i like this step-by-step stuff :p
[20:45] <doubleplusgood> wilsonjl3: Yeah they can be pretty helpful
[20:47] <wilsonjl3> whats wine?
[20:47] <wilsonjl3> meant to ask that but keep forgetting
[20:48] <doubleplusgood> wilsonjl3: A program thar translates Windows APIs to ones Linux can understand.
[20:48] <wilsonjl3> ohhh
[20:48] <wilsonjl3> okay
[20:49] <doubleplusgood> wilsonjl3: it's sorta like an emulator but not
[20:49] <wilsonjl3> mmm, i understand
[20:52] <genii> wilsonjl3: The name itself is sort of a joke to that effect:  Wine Is Not an Emulator
[20:53] <wilsonjl3> oh!
[20:53] <wilsonjl3> lol i get it
[20:53] <David-A> wilsonjl3: no, it is impossible to get it for anyone, since it is an infinite loop
[20:54] <wilsonjl3> what
[20:54] <David-A> wilsonjl3: same with GNU, is is short for GNU is Not Unix, also an infinite loop and hence impossible for the brain to fully comprehend
[20:55] <ali1234> GNU is a pun on "new"
[20:55] <wilsonjl3> i dont comprehend 99% of what you are saying right now :P
[20:55] <ali1234> quite easy to understand really
[20:55] <wilsonjl3> https://www.google.ca/search?q=wut&es_sm=93&tbm=isch&imgil=-vIdWl_CcxXKfM%253A%253Bhttps%253A%252F%252Fencrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com%252Fimages%253Fq%253Dtbn%253AANd9GcQidtNsmCJJPQkYA6952wyZTRGWxkXYWIWHJgPRHP73RasEGk5U%253B604%253B404%253BBLat1KL5Zw9tlM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fdawgpoundnation.com%25252F2014%25252F06%25252F11%25252Ffck-steelers-fans%25252Fwut-babka%25252F&source=iu&usg=__W1bXYorqQfaUwOlOxlZfQEE6P0E%3D&sa=X&ei=EDjIU_W_H8GdyAT2voDID
[20:55] <wilsonjl3> A&ved=0CDEQ9QEwAg&biw=1356&bih=632#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=-vIdWl_CcxXKfM%253A%3BBLat1KL5Zw9tlM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fdawgpoundnation.com%252Fwp-content%252Fuploads%252F2014%252F06%252FWut-babka.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fdawgpoundnation.com%252F2014%252F06%252F11%252Ffck-steelers-fans%252Fwut-babka%252F%3B604%3B404
[20:55] <wilsonjl3> that was longer than i though
[20:55] <wilsonjl3> sorry
[20:56] <David-A> wilsonjl3: the infinite loop part?
[20:56] <wilsonjl3> yes lol
[20:57] <David-A> wilsonjl3: when a definition explains an abbrev using the abbrev in the definition, you are in a sense back to where you started. both GNU and WINE use the apprev in the expansion of the abbrev.
[20:57] <wilsonjl3> oh okay
[20:57] <wilsonjl3> i understand it now
[20:58] <David-A> wilsonjl3: so it is impossible to fully grasp what GNU and WINE really stands for
[20:59] <wilsonjl3> i meant that i understand why its impossible to understand :P
[21:00] <David-A> wilsonjl3: that is an understanding on a higher level. (or lower, I dont know)
[21:00] <genii> Hehe
[21:02] <wilsonjl3> -.- you are confusing me again :P
[21:02] <wilsonjl3> dont explain it
[22:10] <wilsonjl3> is there a mixer/equalizer appp/program/software that can be downloaded that you guys know of?
[22:10] <wilsonjl3> for xubuntu 14.04
[22:13] <David-A> wilsonjl3: do you just want to mix a few sound files and/or apply filters and/or adjust levels to a sound file? or do you want to mix multiple sound files and/or midi-files, and maybe even while playing midi instruments in real time?
[22:14] <wilsonjl3> uhm...on  windows 8/my android there is an equalizer thing for when im listening to music and it has thingies that slide up and down :P i dont remember what its supposed to be called
[22:15] <wilsonjl3> its to adjust the levels on all audio going out the speakers i guess
[22:15] <wilsonjl3> do you know what i mean?
[22:16] <David-A> wilsonjl3: you want a musik player with an equaliser? audacious has that.
[22:16] <wilsonjl3> okay :)
[22:16] <David-A> wilsonjl3: (maybe the equaliser only works for mp3 and not for wav. I am not sure about the current state)
[22:17] <wilsonjl3> oh no, i dont mean just for that, it is to adjust sound levels on ALL audio that comes out the speakers (audio output?)
[22:17] <wilsonjl3> that=my music btw
[22:18] <David-A> wilsonjl3: there are about the square root of a thousand music players in the repos. install them all and try them out, see what you like.
[22:19] <wilsonjl3> ok
[22:23] <David-A> wilsonjl3: all sounds from all programs would eventually go throu the mixer. you want an equalizer in the mixer? to compensate for room acoustics or the like?
[22:24] <wilsonjl3> yes
[22:26] <David-A> wilsonjl3: I don't know about it, but google suggests there have been equalizer plugins for sound systems in ubuntu.
[22:27] <wilsonjl3> okay, ill see what i can find
[22:27] <wilsonjl3> thanks
[23:02] <xuboo> Hello
[23:02] <xuboo> I'm having problem getting sound card to work on my xubuntu install
[23:03] <xuboo> I've tried many guides, and none seem to provide an exact solution
[23:04] <xuboo> Wondering if someone would be so kinda as to help me troubleshoot
[23:18] <xuboo> Going to leave, come back later, as I don't want to afk with someone trying to help.
[23:40] <wilsonjl3> hey again :3
[23:40] <wilsonjl3> so the netflix thing you suggested earlier isnt working, its telling me to install silverlight, but i dunno how
[23:44] <wilsonjl3> hey dave!
[23:45] <ObrienDave> wilsonjl3!
[23:46] <wilsonjl3> haha do you happen to use netflix on xubuntu?
[23:46] <ObrienDave> i can
[23:46] <wilsonjl3> how? :P
[23:46] <ObrienDave> would you like to know how? lol
[23:46] <wilsonjl3> maybbeeee
[23:47] <ObrienDave> ok, sec
[23:48] <ObrienDave> btw, how are you liking Xubuntu so far?
[23:49] <wilsonjl3> hard to use :P i dunno how to use terminal or anything so i think im missing out on alot of stuff
[23:49] <wilsonjl3> well i know how to USE it, but i dunno any commands or how they will be useful and stuff like that
[23:50] <ObrienDave> give it time, you'll catch on. i've only been at it 3 years
[23:50] <ObrienDave> baby steps ;P
[23:50] <wilsonjl3> O.o
[23:50] <wilsonjl3> only 3 years?
[23:50] <ObrienDave> at Linux, 1st programming clas, 1971 ;P
[23:51] <ObrienDave> *class
[23:51] <wilsonjl3> O.o
[23:51] <wilsonjl3> wow
[23:52] <ObrienDave> i used real punch cards, and the computer was larger than your bathroom
[23:52] <wilsonjl3> ahaha thats awesome
[23:52] <wilsonjl3> an sad at the same time
[23:53] <ObrienDave> ok, look here
[23:53] <ObrienDave> https://launchpad.net/~ehoover/+archive/ubuntu/compholio
[23:53] <ObrienDave> don't do ANYthing yet LOL
[23:54] <wilsonjl3> you sure? :p
[23:54] <wilsonjl3> nvm i dont even know what i WOULD do here :P
[23:55] <ObrienDave> ok, this is your next lesson...
[23:55] <ObrienDave> what you're looking at is called a PPA
[23:56] <ObrienDave> Personal Package Archive
[23:56] <wilsonjl3> ok
[23:56] <ObrienDave> this is how you get packages that are not included in the official repos
[23:57] <wilsonjl3> arent the ones not included unsafe?
[23:57] <wilsonjl3> (thats what i was told)
[23:58] <ObrienDave> well, you do have to be careful and if you trust me, i'll show you how to add this one. ask in Ubuntu main if you have any doubts about a certain PPA
[23:58] <wilsonjl3> i trust you
[23:58] <ObrienDave> thanks, it's appreciated
[23:59] <abanabee7> Hello, I am not sure where to go with an issue I am having in Xubuntu. Maybe you guys can help
[23:59] <wilsonjl3> no problem :)
[23:59] <ObrienDave> anyway, under "add this PPA" you'll see ppa:ehoover/compholio
[23:59] <ObrienDave> that is the address of the PPA
[23:59] <wilsonjl3> yes
[23:59] <ObrienDave> sec