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[01:04] <valorie> sgclark is on fire!
[01:04] <sgclark> lol
[01:17]  * valorie readies the fire hose just in case
[01:17] <valorie> I hear you have it hotter than us today too
[01:17] <valorie> I feel fortunate to have under 80 today
[01:17] <Corodius> and here I am in the cold haha
[01:18]  * valorie shunts some of the excess northwest heat Corodius' way
[01:18] <Corodius> Thank you, we could certainly use it :D I am wrapped in an extremely thick robe right now
[01:22] <valorie> where are you, Corodius?
[01:22]  * valorie is south of Seattle, Washington in the northwest of the USA
[01:25] <sgclark> yeah it is warm here today :( suppose to cool down though yay
[01:25] <Corodius> valorie, I am down in Aussieland, Queensland specifically
[01:27]  * valorie waves to the upside-down Corodius
[01:30]  * Corodius upside-down-waves back to valorie
[01:32] <valorie> one of my friends spends about half the year here, for summer and fall, then goes to NZ where he has property as well
[01:32] <valorie> so he never experiences winter
[01:32] <valorie> I would miss it
[01:32] <Corodius> Haha nice nice. Yeah I would too, much as it is cold it is better than aussie summer heat all year round for sure
[01:33] <valorie> yes, I have another friend who fights bush fire
[01:33] <sgclark> Did Seattle area get all that snow we experienced this past winter valorie?
[01:33] <valorie> seems to be getting worse every year
[01:33] <valorie> sgclark: we had snow early, then just very cold
[01:33] <Corodius> ya they are not fun. A few years ago we had the worst ones here in quite a while
[01:34] <valorie> then uber-wet
[01:34] <valorie> very strange winter/spring
[01:34] <sgclark> yeah we got like 8 inches of snow outta no where lol, was cool, but I didnt have to drive in it :)
[01:35] <sgclark> off cource then turned to nasty ice/wet practically all of Portland shut down
[01:35] <valorie> yes, I saw some vids of the cars sliding down the hills
[01:35] <sgclark> yeah
[01:36] <valorie> thank goodness for my subaru in the snow and ice
[06:05] <jose> ovidiu-florin: there you have a couple lines as a testimony, hope it helps :)
[06:05]  * jose heads to bed
[06:06] <ovidiu-florin> thank you jose
[07:43] <apachelogger> kubotu: order coffee
[07:43]  * kubotu slides a cup of steamy hot coffee down the bar to apachelogger.
[08:22] <Riddell> hola
[08:22] <soee> hiho
[08:22] <soee> what do you see in the coffee ?
[08:23] <soee> its straneg that so many people have to start day with cup of coffee :)
[08:24] <valorie> for some it's just the ritual, soee
[08:24] <valorie> some prefer tea
[08:24] <valorie> I love coffee
[08:24] <valorie> sometimes tea....
[08:25] <apachelogger> coffee is needed so you get the god awful taste of toothpaste out your mouth
[08:26] <valorie> or you could get better toothpaste!
[08:27] <soee> :P
[08:27] <apachelogger> there is no toothpaste that doesn't taste like shit
[08:27] <Riddell> I always scared about getting addicted to coffee, one more hassle in life I don't want
[08:27] <soee> no idea i never drink coffee
[08:27] <valorie> I'm not addicted
[08:27] <valorie> and my toothpaste doesn't taste like shit
[08:28] <valorie> lol
[08:29] <apachelogger> nah, you probably just don't mind :P
[08:29] <apachelogger> Riddell: where does one file bugs against pyqt?
[08:29] <apachelogger> they don't have a bug tracker :/
[08:30] <valorie> waaah, apachelogger is telling me I'm a shit-eater
[08:30] <valorie> when actually, I'm eating a peach
[08:30] <valorie> or rather, just finished, so I'm not sharing
[08:31]  * apachelogger rolls eyes
[08:31] <Riddell> apachelogger: I don't think he has a bug tracker
[08:31] <Riddell> apachelogger: just post to the pyqt mailing list, the guy is pretty responsive
[08:31] <Riddell> kde4libs_4:4.13.90-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1 "nepomuk/CMakeFiles/nepomuk.dir/build.make:161: recipe for target 'nepomuk/ndo.h' failed" hmm guess 4.14 doesn't like nepomuk too much 
[08:32] <apachelogger> dat work
[08:32] <apachelogger> actually my pyqt is out of date
[08:32] <apachelogger> lovely
[08:32] <apachelogger> should upgrade to utopic
[08:33] <apachelogger> is utopic not broken yet?
[08:38] <apachelogger> oh actually, Riddell, do you have time to check if pyqt5 in utopic works?
[08:38] <Riddell> apachelogger: you find it totally broken?
[08:39] <apachelogger> cannot emit signals which in turn potentially makes the user format a disk they don't want to format
[08:39] <apachelogger> Riddell: lp:~kubuntu-packagers/usb-creator/qt5
[08:39] <Riddell> ouch
[08:40] <apachelogger> in the dir run bin/usb-creator-kde and plug in a stick
[08:40] <apachelogger>     self.__mainWindow.ui_dest_list.itemChanged.emit(item, 0)
[08:40] <apachelogger> AttributeError: signal was not defined in the first super-class of class 'QTreeWidget'
[08:40] <apachelogger> that's the error I am getting in trusty
[08:43] <Riddell> apachelogger: python 2 or 3?
[08:43] <Riddell> ./bin/usb-creator-kde starts
[08:44] <Riddell> detects usb disk fine
[08:44] <Riddell> click Erase disk it says "NameError: name 'KMessageBox' is not defined"
[08:44] <Riddell> click "other" button it says TypeError: QFileDialog.getOpenFileName(QWidget parent=None, str caption='', str directory='', str filter='', str initialFilter='', QFileDialog.Options options=0) -> (str, str): argument 1 has unexpected type 'str'
[08:45] <Riddell> no sign of your error
[08:47] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: what timezone your doodle in?
[08:55] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: When I set the times, I've used my timezone
[08:55] <ovidiu-florin> If you log in, you should be able to see your own timezone times
[08:55] <apachelogger> mh
[08:55] <apachelogger> Riddell: unplug stick, plug it back in, still no error about emit?
[08:58] <apachelogger>         KMessageBox.sorry(self.__mainWindow,title)
[08:58] <apachelogger> that is one excitingly useless box right there
[09:05] <valorie> !find project-neon5-kdelibs
[09:07] <apachelogger> sometimes that rotten piece of usb-creator doesn't want to terminate :@
[09:08] <apachelogger> valorie: there is no kdelibs anymore
[09:08] <apachelogger> also there are no neon packages in the ubuntu archive :P
[09:08] <valorie> odd that project neon suggests that package then
[09:09] <valorie> I mean recommends
[09:23] <valorie> perhaps tomorrow I'll upgrade that box to utopic and try again
[09:23] <valorie> niters
[09:24] <apachelogger> valorie: used to be there
[09:25] <apachelogger> valorie: and nite xD
[09:25] <apachelogger> Riddell: I pushed some more things ported, it should (tm) work fine now
[09:25] <valorie> I just followed Riddell's blog post instructions
[09:26] <apachelogger> valorie: yeah, it's lingering somewhere in some package, why do you care though?
[09:26] <apachelogger> in fact there might even be a transitional provides by some other package
[09:26]  * apachelogger totally did a provides transition for one of the frameworks changes
[09:27] <valorie> for some reason the install is failing, and since that is a recommended package, I thought that might be why
[09:28] <valorie> I've been passing along the blog post link, and thought I'd dogfood it
[09:29] <Riddell> valorie: did you do ovidiu-florin's doodle?
[09:30] <valorie> not yet
[09:30] <Riddell> although I don't know what timezone it's in
[09:30] <valorie> I'll look at email before sleeping
[09:30] <valorie> niters all
[09:38] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: Time zone: Bucharest
[09:40] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: mm hmm, what timezone is that in?
[09:40] <ovidiu-florin> +2/3
[09:40] <ovidiu-florin> depends on daylight
[09:40] <ovidiu-florin> I never remember how that goes
[09:41] <ovidiu-florin> it's 12:41 PM here right now
[09:42] <Riddell> so UTC+3
[09:45] <Riddell> testimony added :)
[09:48] <Riddell> ScottK, shadeslayer, yofel, Mamarok: please fill in poll https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-council
[09:48] <Riddell> I think most likely day is monday for the meeting
[09:48] <Riddell> http://doodle.com/ri7qu5btn5iz5eyn
[09:49] <Riddell> ah the poll has timezone support
[09:49] <Riddell> funny how you miss the obvious dialogue infront of you
[09:49] <yofel> is that in UTC or local time o.O?
[09:49] <yofel> hm, looks like local time
[09:50] <shadeslayer> doodle changes it to local
[09:50] <shadeslayer> see far right
[09:50] <shadeslayer> sigh
[09:50] <yofel> riiight, poll too longs so I didn't see it ^^
[09:51] <apachelogger> actually IIRC one can turn off the timezone jumbo :P
[09:51] <Mamarok> yofel: there is a scroll bar at the bottom
[09:57] <Mamarok> I presume if there is an error in the keyboard layout of a country I should file that in Launchpad against xmodemap?
[10:04] <Riddell> Mamarok: xkeyboard-config I suspect
[10:04] <Riddell> but I'm not too sure
[10:04] <Mamarok> not xmodmap? As that is where one sets the changes
[10:05] <Riddell> xkeyboard-config contains the data files
[10:05] <Mamarok> anyway, I submitted it to xkeyboard-config now, thex ca still change it if that is wrong
[10:06] <Mamarok> this annoys me, they added a Danish character to AltGr+o, isntead of the oe ligature, we don't type Danish in Switzerland, but we need the oe ligature
[10:06] <Mamarok> luckily LibreOffice autocompletes that, but it should be set correctly in the ykeyboard variant
[10:06] <Riddell> it must be about the only language you don't speak :)
[10:07] <Mamarok> nah, there are many others, like all the 900 languages spoken in Papua-NewGuinea for example, I speak none of those
[10:08] <Mamarok> but Danish characters on a Swiss keyboard, I wonder who came up with that...
[10:08] <Mamarok> and I can't write øvre
[10:08] <Mamarok> øuvre
[10:08] <Mamarok> gah, oeuvre looks wrong
[10:09] <Mamarok> the ae ligature is encoded correctly, æ
[11:05] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:25] <apachelogger> Riddell, shadeslayer: software-properties looks like it could be a straight port to qt as well
[11:26] <apachelogger> from PyKDE4.kdecore import ki18n, i18n, KUrl
[11:26] <apachelogger> from PyKDE4.kdeui import KApplication, KMessageBox, KIcon, KWindowSystem
[11:26] <apachelogger> from PyKDE4.kio import KFileDialog
[11:26] <apachelogger> as with usb-creator the most concerning bits are kmessagebox and i18n
[11:26] <apachelogger> not sure what kwindowsystem is used for yet
[11:26] <apachelogger> ah, parent window setting, I guess we can do without that for now
[11:28] <BluesKaj> this cgmanager upgrade error is holding my other upgrades hostage...managed to get by this problem on the laptop, but the desktop isn't so lucky, http://pastebin.com/4B22avFV
[11:29] <Riddell> apachelogger: actually i18n shouldn't be needed
[11:29] <Riddell> python gettext() should work find
[11:29] <Riddell> fine
[11:30] <apachelogger> it's not used anyway apparently
[11:30] <apachelogger> so I guess, I'll just proceed as with usb-creator and temporarly replace kmessagebox with qmessagebox and the rest goes qt
[11:48] <Riddell> apachelogger++
[11:48] <Riddell> hi sgclark, did colin contact you about updating partitionmanager?
[11:48] <Riddell> in debian
[11:49] <sgclark> Riddell: just looking over my mass of emails, not that I can see
[11:51] <sgclark> Riddell: any idea why I only get No such Resource when trying to look at the buildlog in ninjas ppa?
[11:54] <Riddell> sgclark: do you?
[11:54] <Riddell> I can see the build logs ok
[11:54] <Riddell> https://i180226748.restricted.launchpadlibrarian.net/180226748/buildlog_ubuntu-utopic-amd64.kde4libs_4%3A4.13.90-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz?token=0127411091d0cd5719ef14f070540d7c
[11:54] <Riddell> but it has an error I can't work out
[11:54] <Riddell> /usr/bin/onto2vocabularyclass --name NDO --encoding trig --namespace Nepomuk::Vocabulary --export-module nepomuk /usr/share/ontology/nepomuk/ndo.trig
[11:54] <Riddell> Aborted
[11:54] <sgclark> Riddell: I can't :(
[11:54] <Riddell> sgclark: damn, sounds like a bug in launchpad
[11:55] <sgclark> Riddell: is there a new version of ontology ?
[11:55] <Riddell> sgclark: http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/buildlog_ubuntu-utopic-amd64.kde4libs_44.13.90-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[11:56] <Riddell> it's a problem with /usr/bin/onto2vocabularyclass which is part of soprano
[11:56] <Riddell> but I can't recreate it
[11:56] <Riddell> works fine locally, in a chroot and in an ec2
[11:56] <sgclark> yeah builds fine for me in chroot and pbuilder
[11:56] <Riddell> very temping to just remove nepomuk
[11:56] <Riddell> but I don't know if that would break digikam and bangarang
[11:59] <Riddell> sgclark: you could try throwing up soprano to ninjas to rebuild and then rebuild kde4libs
[11:59] <sgclark> Riddell: worth a shot :)
[12:00]  * Riddell out for an hour or so now to buy a bike
[12:10] <ScottK> Riddell: Done.  I will caveat my Monday participation with "if the wifi on the airplane works".
[12:15] <apachelogger> Riddell, shadeslayer: preliminary port of softwareprops looking good, figuring out the broken connects will be fun though
[12:15] <apachelogger> there's 3000 connects and emits in that app
[12:16] <apachelogger> http://imgur.com/rDrpaEr
[12:17] <apachelogger> why button icons are not working is another issue to behold
[12:17] <apachelogger> that's plain weird
[12:28] <sgclark> gosh evidently I need more coffee, I cannot figure out how to copy soprano package for utopic release to ninjas ppa, anyone able to assist?
[12:29] <ScottK> Why do you need to do that?
[12:29] <ScottK> Good point about the coffee though.
[12:29] <ScottK> Back in a moment.
[12:29] <sgclark> ScottK: http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/buildlog_ubuntu-utopic-amd64.kde4libs_44.13.90-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz builds fine in chroot/pbuilder and ec2
[12:30] <sgclark> SkottK: Riddell and I are kinda stumped so thought maybe bring soprano into the ppa
[12:30] <sgclark> s/SkottK/ScottK
[12:31]  * sgclark grabs more coffee
[12:31] <ScottK> nepomuk/ndo.h is in kdelibs5-dev
[12:32] <ScottK> sgclark: Add kdelibs5-dev to build-deps
[12:32] <ScottK> copying a package from the archive to the PPA won't make it more available.
[12:32] <ScottK> Ah, but I see you're building kde4libs
[12:32] <sgclark> right
[12:32] <ScottK> So that means an internal problem.
[12:34] <ScottK> soprano-daemon is installed, so copying a package over won't help.
[12:35] <sgclark> ScottK: Aborted is not very useful information to debug with :(
[12:35] <ScottK> No.
[12:35]  * sgclark grumbles
[12:35] <ScottK> That's true.
[12:36] <ScottK> What you need to do is build it locally and then see what's in nepomuk/CMakeFiles/nepomuk.dir/build.make line 161.  That's what's really failing.
[12:36] <sgclark> that I can do, one sec
[12:38] <sgclark> that does not exist
[12:42] <yofel> Riddell: did that fail on more than one builder?
[12:45] <sgclark> yofel: he is out buying a bike, it only fails in launchpad,
[12:46] <yofel> let me retry that... wouldn't be the first time that a builder is being weird
[12:46] <yofel> hm, it did fail on 2 though :/
[12:47] <sgclark> yeah this is perplexing
[12:48] <ScottK> sgclark: Are you letting the build run to conclusion or stopping it?
[12:48] <sgclark> and Aborted is not an exceptable exception code :(
[12:48] <sgclark> ScottK: stopping it?
[12:48] <yofel> well, it is one of the possible exit conditions
[12:49] <sgclark> not useful
[12:49] <ScottK> If the build runs to the end, that file will be cleaned up.
[12:50] <sgclark> ScottK: yeah was thing that, rebuilding now and will stop :)
[12:50] <ScottK> If it doesn't fail for you, manually stop the build.
[12:50] <ScottK> The file will possibly exist as soon as when configure is completed.
[12:50] <sgclark> ok
[12:55] <sgclark> ScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7814269/ two of the same line seems odd.
[12:58] <ScottK> What's the few lines before
[13:01] <sgclark> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7814294/
[13:05] <ScottK> What happens if you do "cd nepomuk && /usr/bin/onto2vocabularyclass --name NDO --encoding trig --namespace Nepomuk::Vocabulary --export-module nepomuk /usr/share/ontology/nepomuk/ndo.trig" in the build dir.
[13:07] <sgclark> it seems to go but not output was generated
[13:07] <sgclark> no*
[13:11] <sgclark> ScottK: now wait a minute, as far as I can see these do not exist here nepomuk/nuao.cpp: nepomuk/nuao.h
[13:15] <Riddell> yofel: yes
[13:16] <Riddell> ScottK, sgclark: running the command manually works fine
[13:16] <ScottK> Weird.
[13:16] <Riddell> sgclark: right they get generated by /usr/bin/onto2vocabularyclass
[13:16] <ScottK> On a call now.
[13:16] <Riddell> very
[13:16] <Riddell> sgclark: did you upload soprano?
[13:16] <sgclark> yeah ran comman for nuao and fine too
[13:17] <yofel> ScottK: could you please look at ksnakeduel in utopic-proposed when you have time later? It's stuck on the missing ktron binary which is gone
[13:17] <sgclark> Riddell: no that is where ScottK got involved, I cannot seem to figure out to copy from released
[13:17] <Riddell> just reupload
[13:17] <sgclark> reupload? from where?
[13:18] <Riddell> it's a shot in the dark but may as well try it
[13:18] <Riddell> apt-get source from utopic
[13:18] <yofel> why copy it at all?
[13:18] <Riddell> dch -i
[13:18] <Riddell> dput into ninjas
[13:18]  * yofel doesn't see the point
[13:18] <Riddell> I'm out of other ideas
[13:19] <yofel> well, you can re-upload with a higher version if you really want to do a rebuild...
[13:22] <Riddell> 19:56 < cjwatson> Riddell: is it possible to get the uploader of https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/partitionmanager/1.1.0-0ubuntu1 to work with the Debian KDE folks to get that in there?  I'm particularly waiting for partitionmanager 1.1.0 in Debian for https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=754580
[13:22] <Riddell> 20:01 < cjwatson> Riddell: hm, never mind, I can ask directly :)
[13:22] <Riddell> sgclark: ↑
[13:22] <Riddell> sgclark: maybe you can work with ScottK to get it into debian
[13:25] <sgclark> Riddell: right he already asked me and I have sent emails to multiple places. A nice individual told me to contact mark purcell but I have not heard back. Not sure what else I can do
[13:26] <sgclark> I was also warned that I could possibly get flamed coming in as a stranger wanting help with a package... that does not sound fun heh
[13:28] <Riddell> sgclark: I hope not, maybe some people have flaming experiences from debian but I find the kde packagers to be nothing but helpful
[13:28] <Riddell> soprano reuploaded to ninjas
[13:28] <ScottK> sgclark: Patience re Mark.  Someone from qt-kde will sponsor you if he doesn't answer
[13:28] <sgclark> thanks
[13:29] <yofel> we could also just upload kde4libs to the archive and hope the archive builders aren't broken ^^
[13:29] <sgclark> ScottK: ok thanks :)
[13:30] <Riddell> it's as much a good shot in the dark as anything
[13:30] <sgclark> yeah there is no reason this should be failing :(
[13:32] <sgclark> though it is failing on the first generating of those files, write permissions?
[13:32] <yofel> hardly... running out or memory perhaps, or a qemu bug?
[13:33]  * sgclark shrugs and goes for more coffee
[13:50] <santa> [15:25] <Riddell> sgclark: I hope not, maybe some people have flaming experiences from debian but I find the kde packagers to be nothing but helpful
[13:50] <santa> https://www.wow247.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/jim-carrey.jpg
[13:51] <santa> I strongly (and politely) disagree
[13:52] <Riddell> let's not start that
[13:53] <sgclark> I am not here to ruffle feathers! only to help. So far friendlyness has been my experience
[13:53] <sgclark> despite my inability to spell..
[13:53] <Riddell> uploading kde4libs to ppa:jr to see if it's something with private PPAs not working
[13:54] <sgclark> ok thanks
[13:56] <santa> Riddell: nope, let's not. regarding something more serious, I found that some packages doesn't have a bumped build depend against cmake-extra-modules, shouldn't this be done by the scripts yo use to update to a new upstream release?
[13:56] <santa> s/yo/you
[13:56] <santa> s/yo/you/
[13:56] <kubotu> santa meant: "s/you/you"
[13:56] <santa> ugh
[13:57] <Riddell> santa: alas that part of the scripts isn't very reliable
[13:57] <Riddell> or indeed implemented at all
[13:58] <santa> so I guess it's about time for me to dig into that scripts, where is the code?
[13:59] <Riddell> lp:kubuntu-automation
[14:00] <Riddell> or maybe ~kubuntu-packagers/+junk/kubuntu-automation
[14:00] <Riddell> kubuntu-initial-upload
[14:00] <Riddell> which is intended for kde sc where everything had the same version number
[14:00] <Riddell> and I've kindae squished in kf5 and plasma where they don't
[14:01] <Riddell> "# bump buil-dep versions for packages that were in kde-sc-dev-latest"
[14:01] <Riddell> bumps the ones in plasma-dev-latest-utopic.txt for plasma
[14:01] <Riddell> but not the kf5 ones
[14:01] <Riddell> or ecm
[14:05]  * sgclark curses at her internet provider
[14:08] <Riddell> well no surprise but my random rebuild of soprano in ninjas didn't make any difference, same failure
[14:08] <sgclark> :(
[14:09] <sgclark> what about your ppa? any luck?
[14:09]  * Riddell now watches https://launchpad.net/~jr/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/6194461
[14:18] <BluesKaj> anyone else experience systemd/cgmanager breakage even tho they aren't using systemd ?
[14:19] <Riddell> sgclark: https://launchpad.net/~jr/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/6194461 got to 31% !
[14:19]  * sgclark cheers
[14:20] <Riddell> so seems it's just randomness in qemu or whatever private PPAs use
[14:20] <sgclark> so I guess the next question is, where do we put this?
[14:21] <Riddell> what's in staging?
[14:21] <Riddell> odl stuff
[14:21] <Riddell> sgclark: so go for staging
[14:22] <sgclark> ok
[14:34] <shadeslayer> xnox: would you accept this patch http://paste.ubuntu.com/7814677/ even though kwin is only in the kubuntu next ppa?
[14:36] <xnox> shadeslayer: sure.
[14:36] <xnox> shadeslayer: both packages ship kwin and thus no changes are needed in ubiquity-dm ?
[14:36] <shadeslayer> ok, I'll add the necessary bits to ubiquity-dm as well
[14:36] <shadeslayer> xnox: kwin and kwin_x11 I'm afraid
[14:37] <xnox> shadeslayer: ah, yeah. then do modify bin/ubiquity-dm to handle either.
[14:37] <shadeslayer> cheers
[14:37] <xnox> shadeslayer: otherwise it will not boot =)
[14:39] <shadeslayer> xnox: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7814695/
[14:39] <xnox> shadeslayer: yeah that's better.
[14:39] <xnox> shadeslayer: but don't use os.path.exists.
[14:39] <shadeslayer> oh?
[14:40] <xnox> osextras.find_on_path('kwin')
[14:40] <xnox> osextras.find_on_path('kwin_x11')
[14:40] <shadeslayer> aha :)
[14:40] <xnox> shadeslayer: see the rest of the file, where for gtk_ui we pick between gazzilion of window managers.
[14:40] <shadeslayer> :D
[14:41] <shadeslayer> thx
[14:43] <shadeslayer> xnox: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7814715/
[14:43] <sgclark> Riddell: sigh, fail, same spot
[14:43] <shadeslayer> voila
[14:43] <xnox> shadeslayer: yeap.
[14:45] <Riddell> sgclark: but.. but.. it makes no sense!
[14:45] <Riddell> in my ppa it compiles fine https://launchpad.net/~jr/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/6194461 (so far)
[14:45] <sgclark> Riddell: I know :( I am completely baffled
[14:46] <sgclark> Riddell: yeah and most importantly it got past the probelm area
[14:47] <sgclark> santa: extra-make-modules versionn fixed, did not touch baloo-widgets as there was not a new release this round.
[14:58] <Riddell> sgclark: ah, the one I uploaded to ~jr is a build without nepomuk
[14:59] <Riddell> which explains why it passed the 20% mark
[14:59] <Riddell> so it fails in all PPAs
[14:59] <sgclark> Riddell: eww
[14:59] <sgclark> so weird..
[14:59] <Riddell> I think the obvious next step is to say sod it and upload to the main archive to see if it fails there
[15:00] <Riddell> it'll only be in -proposed so fairly safe I guess
[15:01] <sgclark> don't think I have the powers to do that, so go for it :)
[15:05]  * Riddell makes it so
[15:11] <kubotu> feed branches-next had 14 updates, showing the latest 6
[15:21] <sgclark> Riddell: ok I need to step out for about an hour, did not do my errand yesterday, I hope to come back to a freshly compiled kde4libs lol.
[15:22] <Riddell> fingers crossed
[15:36] <sgclark> really I am leaving, but crazy thought, going through logs I see that launchpad uses make -j1 and all my builds use make -j5, could that somehow break things? order of things processed..
[15:36] <sgclark> Riddell: ^
[15:37]  * sgclark really leaves
[15:37] <Riddell> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4libs/4:4.13.90-0ubuntu1/+build/6194620 Finished a moment ago (took 30 minutes, 21.0 seconds)  yay!
[15:37] <Riddell> sgclark: I don't think so, I can run it manually without having to care about any build order, it's just a simple command
[15:48] <Riddell> debfx: you have a review request https://code.launchpad.net/~ilia-kats/kcm-gtk/gtk3/+merge/84532
[15:49] <Riddell> only two and a half years old
[15:54] <Riddell> Mirv: 
[15:54] <Riddell> Mirv: this one for you? https://code.launchpad.net/~om26er/kubuntu-packaging/qtdeclarative_skip_failing/+merge/201819
[15:54] <Riddell> and this one https://code.launchpad.net/~chris.gagnon/kubuntu-packaging/qtlocation-ci-test/+merge/205688
[15:55] <Riddell> xnox: this one yours? https://code.launchpad.net/~chris.gagnon/kubuntu-packaging/enable-tests-qtimageformats-opensource-src/+merge/219192
[15:55] <debfx> Riddell: at this point my review is "It's dead, Jim"
[15:55] <Riddell> debfx: closed :)
[15:56] <xnox> Riddell: wrong Dimitri.
[15:56] <xnox> Riddell: that's mitya57 rather than xnox...
[15:59] <Riddell> ah hah
[15:59] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: hey
[15:59] <Riddell> my mistake, you are different people
[15:59] <Riddell> hi ovidiu-florin 
[16:00] <Riddell> Mirv: maybe you can confirm if this has been merged too https://code.launchpad.net/~chris.gagnon/kubuntu-packaging/enable-tests-qtimageformats-opensource-src/+merge/219192
[16:00] <ovidiu-florin> I see 2 best times according to the votes, for the meeting
[16:00] <Riddell> oh?
[16:00] <ovidiu-florin> in 3 hours or on monday
[16:01] <Riddell> on monday best
[16:01] <ovidiu-florin> Why?
[16:02] <Riddell> cos I want to go and buy a bicycle now and then go to the release party
[16:02] <ovidiu-florin> on friday it's eighter valorie or ScottK
[16:02] <ovidiu-florin> today I can catch them both
[16:03] <Riddell> but then you miss others
[16:03] <ovidiu-florin> Mamarok: is the only one that can't today (at the same time with the others) and shadeslayer
[16:03] <ovidiu-florin> but shadeslayer can't do monday at that time as well
[16:03] <shadeslayer> anything after 7 I can't do
[16:03] <shadeslayer> 7 PM CEST
[16:03] <shadeslayer> sorry :(
[16:04] <shadeslayer> you don't need everyone to be present
[16:04] <shadeslayer> I can vote sekritly
[16:04] <Riddell> right, only 3 needed
[16:04] <Riddell> or whatever the quorum is, I still need to read that again
[16:04] <ovidiu-florin> today would be 5 including you Riddell
[16:05] <ovidiu-florin> sam enumber on monday
[16:05] <ovidiu-florin> so it's Mamarok missing today or ScottK missing on monday
[16:05] <Riddell> but I now need to run out for this bike, which is why I prefer monday
[16:06] <ScottK> Depending on how my travel plans go monday, I might be available more times.
[16:06] <ScottK> Hard to tell now though.
[16:06] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: you voted that you can today, that's why I'm insisting
[16:06] <Riddell> plans change, I'm now busy for the next two hours
[16:06] <ovidiu-florin> ok then
[16:06] <ovidiu-florin> Monday it is
[16:07] <ovidiu-florin> should I  leave the poll open untill then?
[16:07] <Riddell> but which slot on monday?
[16:07] <Riddell> nah just decide and go with it
[16:07] <ovidiu-florin> 11 PM UTC+3 (bucharest time)
[16:08] <ovidiu-florin> which is a bit late for me... 
[16:08] <ovidiu-florin> but...
[16:08] <ovidiu-florin> oh, whait
[16:08] <ovidiu-florin> there's also 9 and 10 PM
[16:08] <ovidiu-florin> ok then
[16:08] <shadeslayer> lol
[16:08] <shadeslayer> 11 PM we get wasted
[16:09] <ovidiu-florin> then I'd rather go with 9pm
[16:09] <Riddell> do it
[16:09] <ovidiu-florin> And I'd catch a bit of ScottK and if it takes longer a bit of valorie
[16:09] <Riddell> :)
[16:10] <Riddell> oh apachelogger, where is your latin conjugation knowledge?
[16:11] <Riddell> sgclark: looks like kde4libs is in, ~kubuntu-ninjas ppa depends on proposed so should be ready for a mass upload
[16:13]  * Riddell out
[16:14] <ovidiu-florin> can someone please help me out with this mail? is this ok? "Most popular date/time: Monday 21st of July 2014 9:PM Bucharest time, UTC+3"
[16:14] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin: sounds fine
[16:16] <ovidiu-florin> thank you
[16:19] <Mamarok> I definitely prefer Monday, too
[17:51] <apachelogger> Riddell: english dictionary said octopuses :P
[17:53] <ScottK> apachelogger: Imperialists not to be trusted.
[17:54] <apachelogger> guess so ;)
[18:14] <Mirv> Riddell: just started vacation, but marked the first two as done and the qtimageformats is something that is todo (or could be put to Debian and then synced)
[18:16] <Mirv> the tests enablement for qtimageformats was committed to Debian but then temporarily disabled "during the transition" and they remain disabled at the moment
[19:37] <Sick_Rimmit> Hi all. Quick Q Ovidiu has set a Members meeting for Mon 21, I am assuming it's here on IRC, does that sound correct ? 
[19:47] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: yeah that's right, although we could also use #ubuntu-meeting
[19:48] <Riddell> apachelogger, ScottK: I think the english dictionary is right, it's just far more snobby to use latin :)
[19:49] <Sick_Rimmit> Ah OK, well I'll note that and check in there, at 5pm BST, which is 9pm Bucharest, or UTC+3 
[19:49] <Sick_Rimmit> thanks for the confirmation Riddell
[19:56] <soee> wtf, with plasma5 it is impossible to setup second screen ?
[20:15] <Riddell> soee: run kcmshell4 kscreen  new tool not ported yet
[20:21] <Riddell> ta da http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.13.90_utopic.html
[20:21] <Riddell> _Groo_: lots of fix there if you're up for it ↑
[20:23] <valorie> ovidiu-florin: I'm here for you whenever
[20:23] <valorie> oh, I should read up first, duh
[20:24] <_Groo_> Riddell: mostly kdepim as usual
[20:24] <_Groo_> ill take a look at it this weekend
[20:24] <_Groo_> still need to get back on my feet
[20:24] <_Groo_> for a proper build flux
[20:25] <ScottK> Once again, I ALMOST actually used Calligra for something and then no export in MS Office formats makes it useless.
[20:27] <_Groo_> ScottK: i love calligra, but i mostly use flow, which is the best visio clone right now
[20:28] <ScottK> Yes, but no .vdx export that I see.
[20:28] <_Groo_> ScottK: for all the rest i usually go with google docs or ifs not fancy kingsoft office
[20:28] <_Groo_> ScottK: i use it to create content , i believe they cant add .vdx without an expensive ms license
[20:29] <_Groo_> ScottK: have you tried http://wps-community.org/download.html?
[20:29] <_Groo_> ScottK: from our friendly chinese devs?
[20:29] <ScottK> Will it import/export either Visio or Project files?
[20:31] <_Groo_> ScottK: not that i know of, try it for office formats
[20:31] <_Groo_> ScottK: they use reverse engineer
[20:32] <valorie> hmmm, I see no poll on the Council page
[20:32] <valorie> and when I click the poll link, i'm told there is no poll
[20:32] <ScottK> valorie: he meant the doodle thing, I'm pretty sure
[20:37] <ovidiu-florin> valorie: thank you :D
[21:58] <valorie> ScottK: you are almost certainly right, and it was just a paste fail
[21:58] <valorie> now that I've had coffee, the world makes more sense
[22:01] <valorie> and now time to run