[00:08] feed branches had 24 updates, showing the latest 6 [01:04] sgclark is on fire! [01:04] lol [01:17] * valorie readies the fire hose just in case [01:17] I hear you have it hotter than us today too [01:17] I feel fortunate to have under 80 today [01:17] and here I am in the cold haha [01:18] * valorie shunts some of the excess northwest heat Corodius' way [01:18] Thank you, we could certainly use it :D I am wrapped in an extremely thick robe right now [01:22] where are you, Corodius? [01:22] * valorie is south of Seattle, Washington in the northwest of the USA [01:25] yeah it is warm here today :( suppose to cool down though yay [01:25] valorie, I am down in Aussieland, Queensland specifically [01:27] * valorie waves to the upside-down Corodius [01:30] * Corodius upside-down-waves back to valorie [01:32] one of my friends spends about half the year here, for summer and fall, then goes to NZ where he has property as well [01:32] so he never experiences winter [01:32] I would miss it [01:32] Haha nice nice. Yeah I would too, much as it is cold it is better than aussie summer heat all year round for sure [01:33] yes, I have another friend who fights bush fire [01:33] Did Seattle area get all that snow we experienced this past winter valorie? [01:33] seems to be getting worse every year [01:33] sgclark: we had snow early, then just very cold [01:33] ya they are not fun. A few years ago we had the worst ones here in quite a while [01:34] then uber-wet [01:34] very strange winter/spring [01:34] yeah we got like 8 inches of snow outta no where lol, was cool, but I didnt have to drive in it :) [01:35] off cource then turned to nasty ice/wet practically all of Portland shut down [01:35] yes, I saw some vids of the cars sliding down the hills [01:35] yeah [01:36] thank goodness for my subaru in the snow and ice === wgrant_ is now known as wgrant [06:05] ovidiu-florin: there you have a couple lines as a testimony, hope it helps :) [06:05] * jose heads to bed [06:06] thank you jose [07:43] kubotu: order coffee [07:43] * kubotu slides a cup of steamy hot coffee down the bar to apachelogger. [08:22] hola [08:22] hiho [08:22] what do you see in the coffee ? [08:23] its straneg that so many people have to start day with cup of coffee :) [08:24] for some it's just the ritual, soee [08:24] some prefer tea [08:24] I love coffee [08:24] sometimes tea.... [08:25] coffee is needed so you get the god awful taste of toothpaste out your mouth [08:26] or you could get better toothpaste! [08:27] :P [08:27] there is no toothpaste that doesn't taste like shit [08:27] I always scared about getting addicted to coffee, one more hassle in life I don't want [08:27] no idea i never drink coffee [08:27] I'm not addicted [08:27] and my toothpaste doesn't taste like shit [08:28] lol [08:29] nah, you probably just don't mind :P [08:29] Riddell: where does one file bugs against pyqt? [08:29] they don't have a bug tracker :/ [08:30] waaah, apachelogger is telling me I'm a shit-eater [08:30] when actually, I'm eating a peach [08:30] or rather, just finished, so I'm not sharing [08:31] * apachelogger rolls eyes [08:31] apachelogger: I don't think he has a bug tracker [08:31] apachelogger: just post to the pyqt mailing list, the guy is pretty responsive [08:31] kde4libs_4:4.13.90-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1 "nepomuk/CMakeFiles/nepomuk.dir/build.make:161: recipe for target 'nepomuk/ndo.h' failed" hmm guess 4.14 doesn't like nepomuk too much [08:32] dat work [08:32] actually my pyqt is out of date [08:32] lovely [08:32] should upgrade to utopic [08:33] is utopic not broken yet? [08:38] oh actually, Riddell, do you have time to check if pyqt5 in utopic works? [08:38] apachelogger: you find it totally broken? [08:39] cannot emit signals which in turn potentially makes the user format a disk they don't want to format [08:39] Riddell: lp:~kubuntu-packagers/usb-creator/qt5 [08:39] ouch [08:40] in the dir run bin/usb-creator-kde and plug in a stick [08:40] self.__mainWindow.ui_dest_list.itemChanged.emit(item, 0) [08:40] AttributeError: signal was not defined in the first super-class of class 'QTreeWidget' [08:40] that's the error I am getting in trusty [08:43] apachelogger: python 2 or 3? [08:43] ./bin/usb-creator-kde starts [08:44] detects usb disk fine [08:44] click Erase disk it says "NameError: name 'KMessageBox' is not defined" [08:44] click "other" button it says TypeError: QFileDialog.getOpenFileName(QWidget parent=None, str caption='', str directory='', str filter='', str initialFilter='', QFileDialog.Options options=0) -> (str, str): argument 1 has unexpected type 'str' [08:45] no sign of your error [08:47] ovidiu-florin: what timezone your doodle in? [08:55] Riddell: When I set the times, I've used my timezone [08:55] If you log in, you should be able to see your own timezone times [08:55] mh [08:55] Riddell: unplug stick, plug it back in, still no error about emit? [08:58] KMessageBox.sorry(self.__mainWindow,title) [08:58] that is one excitingly useless box right there [09:05] !find project-neon5-kdelibs [09:05] Package/file project-neon5-kdelibs does not exist in trusty [09:07] sometimes that rotten piece of usb-creator doesn't want to terminate :@ [09:08] valorie: there is no kdelibs anymore [09:08] also there are no neon packages in the ubuntu archive :P [09:08] odd that project neon suggests that package then [09:09] I mean recommends [09:23] perhaps tomorrow I'll upgrade that box to utopic and try again [09:23] niters [09:24] valorie: used to be there [09:25] valorie: and nite xD [09:25] Riddell: I pushed some more things ported, it should (tm) work fine now [09:25] I just followed Riddell's blog post instructions [09:26] valorie: yeah, it's lingering somewhere in some package, why do you care though? [09:26] in fact there might even be a transitional provides by some other package [09:26] * apachelogger totally did a provides transition for one of the frameworks changes [09:27] for some reason the install is failing, and since that is a recommended package, I thought that might be why [09:28] I've been passing along the blog post link, and thought I'd dogfood it [09:29] valorie: did you do ovidiu-florin's doodle? [09:30] not yet [09:30] although I don't know what timezone it's in [09:30] I'll look at email before sleeping [09:30] niters all [09:38] Riddell: Time zone: Bucharest [09:40] ovidiu-florin: mm hmm, what timezone is that in? [09:40] +2/3 [09:40] depends on daylight [09:40] I never remember how that goes [09:41] it's 12:41 PM here right now [09:42] so UTC+3 [09:45] testimony added :) [09:48] ScottK, shadeslayer, yofel, Mamarok: please fill in poll https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-council [09:48] I think most likely day is monday for the meeting [09:48] http://doodle.com/ri7qu5btn5iz5eyn [09:49] ah the poll has timezone support [09:49] funny how you miss the obvious dialogue infront of you [09:49] is that in UTC or local time o.O? [09:49] hm, looks like local time [09:50] doodle changes it to local [09:50] see far right [09:50] sigh [09:50] riiight, poll too longs so I didn't see it ^^ [09:51] actually IIRC one can turn off the timezone jumbo :P [09:51] yofel: there is a scroll bar at the bottom [09:57] I presume if there is an error in the keyboard layout of a country I should file that in Launchpad against xmodemap? [10:04] Mamarok: xkeyboard-config I suspect [10:04] but I'm not too sure [10:04] not xmodmap? As that is where one sets the changes [10:05] xkeyboard-config contains the data files [10:05] anyway, I submitted it to xkeyboard-config now, thex ca still change it if that is wrong [10:06] this annoys me, they added a Danish character to AltGr+o, isntead of the oe ligature, we don't type Danish in Switzerland, but we need the oe ligature [10:06] luckily LibreOffice autocompletes that, but it should be set correctly in the ykeyboard variant [10:06] it must be about the only language you don't speak :) [10:07] nah, there are many others, like all the 900 languages spoken in Papua-NewGuinea for example, I speak none of those [10:08] but Danish characters on a Swiss keyboard, I wonder who came up with that... [10:08] and I can't write øvre [10:08] øuvre [10:08] gah, oeuvre looks wrong [10:09] the ae ligature is encoded correctly, æ [11:05] 'Morning folks [11:25] Riddell, shadeslayer: software-properties looks like it could be a straight port to qt as well [11:26] from PyKDE4.kdecore import ki18n, i18n, KUrl [11:26] from PyKDE4.kdeui import KApplication, KMessageBox, KIcon, KWindowSystem [11:26] from PyKDE4.kio import KFileDialog [11:26] as with usb-creator the most concerning bits are kmessagebox and i18n [11:26] not sure what kwindowsystem is used for yet [11:26] ah, parent window setting, I guess we can do without that for now [11:28] this cgmanager upgrade error is holding my other upgrades hostage...managed to get by this problem on the laptop, but the desktop isn't so lucky, http://pastebin.com/4B22avFV [11:29] apachelogger: actually i18n shouldn't be needed [11:29] python gettext() should work find [11:29] fine [11:30] it's not used anyway apparently [11:30] so I guess, I'll just proceed as with usb-creator and temporarly replace kmessagebox with qmessagebox and the rest goes qt [11:48] apachelogger++ [11:48] hi sgclark, did colin contact you about updating partitionmanager? [11:48] in debian [11:49] Riddell: just looking over my mass of emails, not that I can see [11:51] Riddell: any idea why I only get No such Resource when trying to look at the buildlog in ninjas ppa? [11:54] sgclark: do you? [11:54] I can see the build logs ok [11:54] https://i180226748.restricted.launchpadlibrarian.net/180226748/buildlog_ubuntu-utopic-amd64.kde4libs_4%3A4.13.90-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz?token=0127411091d0cd5719ef14f070540d7c [11:54] but it has an error I can't work out [11:54] /usr/bin/onto2vocabularyclass --name NDO --encoding trig --namespace Nepomuk::Vocabulary --export-module nepomuk /usr/share/ontology/nepomuk/ndo.trig [11:54] Aborted [11:54] Riddell: I can't :( [11:54] sgclark: damn, sounds like a bug in launchpad [11:55] Riddell: is there a new version of ontology ? [11:55] sgclark: http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/buildlog_ubuntu-utopic-amd64.kde4libs_44.13.90-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [11:56] it's a problem with /usr/bin/onto2vocabularyclass which is part of soprano [11:56] but I can't recreate it [11:56] works fine locally, in a chroot and in an ec2 [11:56] yeah builds fine for me in chroot and pbuilder [11:56] very temping to just remove nepomuk [11:56] but I don't know if that would break digikam and bangarang [11:59] sgclark: you could try throwing up soprano to ninjas to rebuild and then rebuild kde4libs [11:59] Riddell: worth a shot :) [12:00] * Riddell out for an hour or so now to buy a bike [12:10] Riddell: Done. I will caveat my Monday participation with "if the wifi on the airplane works". [12:15] Riddell, shadeslayer: preliminary port of softwareprops looking good, figuring out the broken connects will be fun though [12:15] there's 3000 connects and emits in that app [12:16] http://imgur.com/rDrpaEr [12:17] why button icons are not working is another issue to behold [12:17] that's plain weird [12:28] gosh evidently I need more coffee, I cannot figure out how to copy soprano package for utopic release to ninjas ppa, anyone able to assist? [12:29] Why do you need to do that? [12:29] Good point about the coffee though. [12:29] Back in a moment. [12:29] ScottK: http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/buildlog_ubuntu-utopic-amd64.kde4libs_44.13.90-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz builds fine in chroot/pbuilder and ec2 [12:30] SkottK: Riddell and I are kinda stumped so thought maybe bring soprano into the ppa [12:30] s/SkottK/ScottK [12:31] * sgclark grabs more coffee [12:31] nepomuk/ndo.h is in kdelibs5-dev [12:32] sgclark: Add kdelibs5-dev to build-deps [12:32] copying a package from the archive to the PPA won't make it more available. [12:32] Ah, but I see you're building kde4libs [12:32] right [12:32] So that means an internal problem. [12:34] soprano-daemon is installed, so copying a package over won't help. [12:35] ScottK: Aborted is not very useful information to debug with :( [12:35] No. [12:35] * sgclark grumbles [12:35] That's true. [12:36] What you need to do is build it locally and then see what's in nepomuk/CMakeFiles/nepomuk.dir/build.make line 161. That's what's really failing. [12:36] that I can do, one sec [12:38] that does not exist [12:42] Riddell: did that fail on more than one builder? [12:45] yofel: he is out buying a bike, it only fails in launchpad, [12:46] let me retry that... wouldn't be the first time that a builder is being weird [12:46] hm, it did fail on 2 though :/ [12:47] yeah this is perplexing [12:48] sgclark: Are you letting the build run to conclusion or stopping it? [12:48] and Aborted is not an exceptable exception code :( [12:48] ScottK: stopping it? [12:48] well, it is one of the possible exit conditions [12:49] not useful [12:49] If the build runs to the end, that file will be cleaned up. [12:50] ScottK: yeah was thing that, rebuilding now and will stop :) [12:50] If it doesn't fail for you, manually stop the build. [12:50] The file will possibly exist as soon as when configure is completed. [12:50] ok [12:55] ScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7814269/ two of the same line seems odd. [12:58] What's the few lines before [13:01] http://paste.ubuntu.com/7814294/ [13:05] What happens if you do "cd nepomuk && /usr/bin/onto2vocabularyclass --name NDO --encoding trig --namespace Nepomuk::Vocabulary --export-module nepomuk /usr/share/ontology/nepomuk/ndo.trig" in the build dir. [13:07] it seems to go but not output was generated [13:07] no* [13:11] ScottK: now wait a minute, as far as I can see these do not exist here nepomuk/nuao.cpp: nepomuk/nuao.h [13:15] yofel: yes [13:16] ScottK, sgclark: running the command manually works fine [13:16] Weird. [13:16] sgclark: right they get generated by /usr/bin/onto2vocabularyclass [13:16] On a call now. [13:16] very [13:16] sgclark: did you upload soprano? [13:16] yeah ran comman for nuao and fine too [13:17] ScottK: could you please look at ksnakeduel in utopic-proposed when you have time later? It's stuck on the missing ktron binary which is gone [13:17] Riddell: no that is where ScottK got involved, I cannot seem to figure out to copy from released [13:17] just reupload [13:17] reupload? from where? [13:18] it's a shot in the dark but may as well try it [13:18] apt-get source from utopic [13:18] why copy it at all? [13:18] dch -i [13:18] dput into ninjas [13:18] * yofel doesn't see the point [13:18] I'm out of other ideas [13:19] well, you can re-upload with a higher version if you really want to do a rebuild... [13:22] 19:56 < cjwatson> Riddell: is it possible to get the uploader of https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/partitionmanager/1.1.0-0ubuntu1 to work with the Debian KDE folks to get that in there? I'm particularly waiting for partitionmanager 1.1.0 in Debian for https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=754580 [13:22] Debian bug 754580 in partitionmanager "partitionmanager: new upstream release, required to support parted 3.1" [Important,Open] [13:22] 20:01 < cjwatson> Riddell: hm, never mind, I can ask directly :) [13:22] sgclark: ↑ [13:22] sgclark: maybe you can work with ScottK to get it into debian [13:25] Riddell: right he already asked me and I have sent emails to multiple places. A nice individual told me to contact mark purcell but I have not heard back. Not sure what else I can do [13:26] I was also warned that I could possibly get flamed coming in as a stranger wanting help with a package... that does not sound fun heh [13:28] sgclark: I hope not, maybe some people have flaming experiences from debian but I find the kde packagers to be nothing but helpful [13:28] soprano reuploaded to ninjas [13:28] sgclark: Patience re Mark. Someone from qt-kde will sponsor you if he doesn't answer [13:28] thanks [13:29] we could also just upload kde4libs to the archive and hope the archive builders aren't broken ^^ [13:29] ScottK: ok thanks :) [13:30] it's as much a good shot in the dark as anything [13:30] yeah there is no reason this should be failing :( [13:32] though it is failing on the first generating of those files, write permissions? [13:32] hardly... running out or memory perhaps, or a qemu bug? [13:33] * sgclark shrugs and goes for more coffee [13:50] [15:25] sgclark: I hope not, maybe some people have flaming experiences from debian but I find the kde packagers to be nothing but helpful [13:50] https://www.wow247.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/jim-carrey.jpg [13:51] I strongly (and politely) disagree [13:52] let's not start that [13:53] I am not here to ruffle feathers! only to help. So far friendlyness has been my experience [13:53] despite my inability to spell.. [13:53] uploading kde4libs to ppa:jr to see if it's something with private PPAs not working [13:54] ok thanks [13:56] Riddell: nope, let's not. regarding something more serious, I found that some packages doesn't have a bumped build depend against cmake-extra-modules, shouldn't this be done by the scripts yo use to update to a new upstream release? [13:56] s/yo/you [13:56] s/yo/you/ [13:56] santa meant: "s/you/you" [13:56] ugh [13:57] santa: alas that part of the scripts isn't very reliable [13:57] or indeed implemented at all [13:58] so I guess it's about time for me to dig into that scripts, where is the code? [13:59] lp:kubuntu-automation [14:00] or maybe ~kubuntu-packagers/+junk/kubuntu-automation [14:00] kubuntu-initial-upload [14:00] which is intended for kde sc where everything had the same version number [14:00] and I've kindae squished in kf5 and plasma where they don't [14:01] "# bump buil-dep versions for packages that were in kde-sc-dev-latest" [14:01] bumps the ones in plasma-dev-latest-utopic.txt for plasma [14:01] but not the kf5 ones [14:01] or ecm [14:05] * sgclark curses at her internet provider [14:08] well no surprise but my random rebuild of soprano in ninjas didn't make any difference, same failure [14:08] :( [14:09] what about your ppa? any luck? [14:09] * Riddell now watches https://launchpad.net/~jr/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/6194461 [14:18] anyone else experience systemd/cgmanager breakage even tho they aren't using systemd ? [14:19] sgclark: https://launchpad.net/~jr/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/6194461 got to 31% ! [14:19] * sgclark cheers [14:20] so seems it's just randomness in qemu or whatever private PPAs use [14:20] so I guess the next question is, where do we put this? [14:21] what's in staging? [14:21] odl stuff [14:21] sgclark: so go for staging [14:22] ok [14:34] xnox: would you accept this patch http://paste.ubuntu.com/7814677/ even though kwin is only in the kubuntu next ppa? [14:36] shadeslayer: sure. [14:36] shadeslayer: both packages ship kwin and thus no changes are needed in ubiquity-dm ? [14:36] ok, I'll add the necessary bits to ubiquity-dm as well [14:36] xnox: kwin and kwin_x11 I'm afraid [14:37] shadeslayer: ah, yeah. then do modify bin/ubiquity-dm to handle either. [14:37] cheers [14:37] shadeslayer: otherwise it will not boot =) [14:39] xnox: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7814695/ [14:39] shadeslayer: yeah that's better. [14:39] shadeslayer: but don't use os.path.exists. [14:39] oh? [14:40] osextras.find_on_path('kwin') [14:40] osextras.find_on_path('kwin_x11') [14:40] aha :) [14:40] shadeslayer: see the rest of the file, where for gtk_ui we pick between gazzilion of window managers. [14:40] :D [14:41] thx [14:43] xnox: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7814715/ [14:43] Riddell: sigh, fail, same spot [14:43] voila [14:43] shadeslayer: yeap. [14:45] sgclark: but.. but.. it makes no sense! [14:45] in my ppa it compiles fine https://launchpad.net/~jr/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/6194461 (so far) [14:45] Riddell: I know :( I am completely baffled [14:46] Riddell: yeah and most importantly it got past the probelm area [14:47] santa: extra-make-modules versionn fixed, did not touch baloo-widgets as there was not a new release this round. [14:58] sgclark: ah, the one I uploaded to ~jr is a build without nepomuk [14:59] which explains why it passed the 20% mark [14:59] so it fails in all PPAs [14:59] Riddell: eww [14:59] so weird.. [14:59] I think the obvious next step is to say sod it and upload to the main archive to see if it fails there [15:00] it'll only be in -proposed so fairly safe I guess [15:01] don't think I have the powers to do that, so go for it :) [15:05] * Riddell makes it so [15:11] feed branches-next had 14 updates, showing the latest 6 [15:21] Riddell: ok I need to step out for about an hour, did not do my errand yesterday, I hope to come back to a freshly compiled kde4libs lol. [15:22] fingers crossed [15:36] really I am leaving, but crazy thought, going through logs I see that launchpad uses make -j1 and all my builds use make -j5, could that somehow break things? order of things processed.. [15:36] Riddell: ^ [15:37] * sgclark really leaves [15:37] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4libs/4:4.13.90-0ubuntu1/+build/6194620 Finished a moment ago (took 30 minutes, 21.0 seconds) yay! [15:37] sgclark: I don't think so, I can run it manually without having to care about any build order, it's just a simple command [15:48] debfx: you have a review request https://code.launchpad.net/~ilia-kats/kcm-gtk/gtk3/+merge/84532 [15:49] only two and a half years old [15:54] Mirv: [15:54] Mirv: this one for you? https://code.launchpad.net/~om26er/kubuntu-packaging/qtdeclarative_skip_failing/+merge/201819 [15:54] and this one https://code.launchpad.net/~chris.gagnon/kubuntu-packaging/qtlocation-ci-test/+merge/205688 [15:55] xnox: this one yours? https://code.launchpad.net/~chris.gagnon/kubuntu-packaging/enable-tests-qtimageformats-opensource-src/+merge/219192 [15:55] Riddell: at this point my review is "It's dead, Jim" [15:55] debfx: closed :) [15:56] Riddell: wrong Dimitri. [15:56] Riddell: that's mitya57 rather than xnox... [15:59] ah hah [15:59] Riddell: hey [15:59] my mistake, you are different people [15:59] hi ovidiu-florin [16:00] Mirv: maybe you can confirm if this has been merged too https://code.launchpad.net/~chris.gagnon/kubuntu-packaging/enable-tests-qtimageformats-opensource-src/+merge/219192 [16:00] I see 2 best times according to the votes, for the meeting [16:00] oh? [16:00] in 3 hours or on monday [16:01] on monday best [16:01] Why? [16:02] cos I want to go and buy a bicycle now and then go to the release party [16:02] on friday it's eighter valorie or ScottK [16:02] today I can catch them both [16:03] but then you miss others [16:03] Mamarok: is the only one that can't today (at the same time with the others) and shadeslayer [16:03] but shadeslayer can't do monday at that time as well [16:03] anything after 7 I can't do [16:03] 7 PM CEST [16:03] sorry :( [16:04] you don't need everyone to be present [16:04] I can vote sekritly [16:04] right, only 3 needed [16:04] or whatever the quorum is, I still need to read that again [16:04] today would be 5 including you Riddell [16:05] sam enumber on monday [16:05] so it's Mamarok missing today or ScottK missing on monday [16:05] but I now need to run out for this bike, which is why I prefer monday [16:06] Depending on how my travel plans go monday, I might be available more times. [16:06] Hard to tell now though. [16:06] Riddell: you voted that you can today, that's why I'm insisting [16:06] plans change, I'm now busy for the next two hours [16:06] ok then [16:06] Monday it is [16:07] should I leave the poll open untill then? [16:07] but which slot on monday? [16:07] nah just decide and go with it [16:07] 11 PM UTC+3 (bucharest time) [16:08] which is a bit late for me... [16:08] but... [16:08] oh, whait [16:08] there's also 9 and 10 PM [16:08] ok then [16:08] lol [16:08] 11 PM we get wasted [16:09] then I'd rather go with 9pm [16:09] do it [16:09] And I'd catch a bit of ScottK and if it takes longer a bit of valorie [16:09] :) === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Council Meeting Monday 18:00UTC | Kubuntu - The Distro for Octopuses | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas-frameworks KF5 5.0.0! http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/build_status_5.0.0_utopic.html [16:10] oh apachelogger, where is your latin conjugation knowledge? === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Council Meeting Monday 18:00UTC | Kubuntu - The Distro for Octopii | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas-frameworks KF5 5.0.0! http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/build_status_5.0.0_utopic.html [16:11] sgclark: looks like kde4libs is in, ~kubuntu-ninjas ppa depends on proposed so should be ready for a mass upload [16:13] * Riddell out [16:14] can someone please help me out with this mail? is this ok? "Most popular date/time: Monday 21st of July 2014 9:PM Bucharest time, UTC+3" [16:14] ovidiu-florin: sounds fine [16:16] thank you [16:19] I definitely prefer Monday, too [17:51] Riddell: english dictionary said octopuses :P [17:53] apachelogger: Imperialists not to be trusted. [17:54] guess so ;) [18:14] Riddell: just started vacation, but marked the first two as done and the qtimageformats is something that is todo (or could be put to Debian and then synced) [18:16] the tests enablement for qtimageformats was committed to Debian but then temporarily disabled "during the transition" and they remain disabled at the moment [19:37] Hi all. Quick Q Ovidiu has set a Members meeting for Mon 21, I am assuming it's here on IRC, does that sound correct ? [19:47] Sick_Rimmit: yeah that's right, although we could also use #ubuntu-meeting [19:48] apachelogger, ScottK: I think the english dictionary is right, it's just far more snobby to use latin :) [19:49] Ah OK, well I'll note that and check in there, at 5pm BST, which is 9pm Bucharest, or UTC+3 [19:49] thanks for the confirmation Riddell [19:56] wtf, with plasma5 it is impossible to setup second screen ? [20:15] soee: run kcmshell4 kscreen new tool not ported yet [20:21] ta da http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.13.90_utopic.html [20:21] _Groo_: lots of fix there if you're up for it ↑ [20:23] ovidiu-florin: I'm here for you whenever [20:23] oh, I should read up first, duh [20:24] <_Groo_> Riddell: mostly kdepim as usual [20:24] <_Groo_> ill take a look at it this weekend [20:24] <_Groo_> still need to get back on my feet [20:24] <_Groo_> for a proper build flux [20:25] Once again, I ALMOST actually used Calligra for something and then no export in MS Office formats makes it useless. [20:27] <_Groo_> ScottK: i love calligra, but i mostly use flow, which is the best visio clone right now [20:28] Yes, but no .vdx export that I see. [20:28] <_Groo_> ScottK: for all the rest i usually go with google docs or ifs not fancy kingsoft office [20:28] <_Groo_> ScottK: i use it to create content , i believe they cant add .vdx without an expensive ms license [20:29] <_Groo_> ScottK: have you tried http://wps-community.org/download.html? [20:29] <_Groo_> ScottK: from our friendly chinese devs? [20:29] Will it import/export either Visio or Project files? [20:31] <_Groo_> ScottK: not that i know of, try it for office formats [20:31] <_Groo_> ScottK: they use reverse engineer [20:32] hmmm, I see no poll on the Council page [20:32] and when I click the poll link, i'm told there is no poll [20:32] valorie: he meant the doodle thing, I'm pretty sure [20:37] valorie: thank you :D [21:58] ScottK: you are almost certainly right, and it was just a paste fail [21:58] now that I've had coffee, the world makes more sense [22:01] and now time to run