[00:10] hmm [00:10] ahh cool daftykins that seems neat === MooDoo is now known as Guest83844 [00:19] ;] [01:02] mapps: sign up! :D it's free [03:32] daftykins will do! [06:06] morning all [06:06] morning === Guest83844 is now known as MooDoo [06:06] another kick....sigh [06:06] :D [06:06] setup alt nick? [06:07] nah can't be bothered with that lol [06:08] lol [06:08] its like just nick/alt nick in mirc..not much effort;p [06:25] moin [06:44] MooDoo: funnily enough I'm actually hoping that my bot times out so I can file a bug report about it [07:17] Myrtti whats your bot for [07:31] morning everyone [07:31] sleep well? [07:32] morning SuperMatt no :) [07:32] Was Thor grumbling where you were? [07:35] SuperMatt: no, poorly son so I slept on the living room floor .... ouch achy achy :) [07:36] SuperMatt, yup from 12 till 2am [07:36] Was watching it for ages, amazing stuff [07:38] I didn't watch, but I listened [08:10] is there an easy way to rip a tv series dvd into separate chapters without much manual work? [08:11] i'm using handbrake atm [08:13] Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Mandela Day! :-D [08:20] oooohhhhhhh, http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p021syjx [08:20] anyone use vmware on a hp microserver? [08:20] morning boys and girls. [08:20] howdy brobostigon [08:21] MooDoo: some people do. [08:21] MooDoo: no, but I am using virtualbox on mine [08:21] morning MooDoo [08:21] It doesn't really cope well with more than 0 virtual machines [08:22] bigcalm: ok thanks, just looking at options for a home lab :) [08:22] LXC? [08:22] we're using kvm on ours and it runs several just fine [08:22] of course you need to take care not to allocate too much memory on each [08:22] MooDoo: a kvm set-up might work for you if you don't need it to be portable between platforms [08:23] It'll run windows and linux vm's [08:24] MooDoo: I have to do that on my i7 laptop as my microserver really can't cope [08:24] You'll want to put some good resources into whatever box you end up with [08:24] bigcalm: probably a self build :) [08:25] the handy thin gis esxi runs on a 2gb (or maybe 4gb ) usb stick [08:25] Build a rack? ;) [08:25] Seperate your windows VMs and use KVM for the Linux ones [08:25] buy 5 microservers and paint them orange [08:25] and run MAAS [08:25] lol [08:25] Heh [08:26] I'll just save up 7k and buy an orangebox :) [08:26] I've bitten the bullet and ordered a 500GB SSD for my laptop (to replace the 120GB one in it). VMs really do take up a lot of space [08:27] Morning [08:27] morning pio [08:27] popey: [08:27] o/ [08:27] SUp [08:31] only couple of hours sleep :( [08:31] wifey was tossing and turning till 2am, then the thunder started for 4 hours [08:32] sounded like wheely bin grand prix outside [08:33] I don't remember being woken by thunder. But the wind and rain were quite fun [08:34] there was crazy lightning at 2am [08:34] Had to close a window to stop the blinds from rattling. Not a nice thing when it's quite warm [08:34] Lucky [08:34] Where are you? [08:34] n london [08:34] Ah, far to south [08:34] s/to/too [08:35] I slept like a baby, but only because I found my blackout eye blinds [08:37] and yes we do have blackout curtains too, but it doesn't help if you need to keep the window open to get the air circulating and the light escapes anyway [08:39] blackout curtains....luxury, When I was a lad we had to work at mill and pay mill owner to work there.... [08:39] baby is obsessed with scratching ht etouhcpa on my laptop [08:39] touchpad [08:44] new sensation for them, mine did that all the time on carpets, soft furnishings my beard etc [08:45] Good morning peeps :) [08:45] oh man, that world book club episode was brilliant [08:45] Just realised that I didn't greet peeps when I woke up [08:45] just a reminder to everyone: you need to read Sofia's World by Jostein Gaarder. [08:45] bigcalm: that's disgusting [08:50] Myrtti: i did when i was about 20 [08:50] i felt its probably best for younger types [08:50] foobarry: I got three straight full marks on my three philosophy courses partially because of that book [08:50] a mere bagatelle sophie [08:51] and the solitaire mystery was more of hte same [08:51] and alain de bottons rather pretentious books [09:03] Next week I will be replacing the SSDs in my workstation and laptop with much larger ones. What's the easiest way to move the OS and data over? [09:03] rsync, if not dd [09:04] So I need to find a machine with spare SATA ports and dd from one to the other [09:04] * bigcalm looks over at his steamos machine [09:05] Does dd work on a whole drive or do I have to specify partitions? [09:06] That is, can I copy the whole of /dev/sdb to /dev/sdc ? [09:06] morning morning [09:06] bigcalm: it should work on a whole drive, if target >= destination [09:06] MartijnVdS: surely the other way around? [09:06] though you may need to resize the partitions afterwards if the target is bigger [09:07] no, target has to be larger than the source, or equal in size [09:07] target and destination are confusing me here :) [09:07] so target >= source [09:07] target and destination are the same thing lol [09:07] * MartijnVdS facepalms [09:07] oops :) [09:07] :) [09:08] any suggestions on my handbrake-cli problems? [09:08] struggling to episodic dvds to separate files without a tedious process in the GUI [09:09] Workstation is getting 250GB to replace its 60GB. Laptop is getting 500GB to replace its 120GB. All should be well [09:09] i have a thomas tank engine dvd with 26 Titles ,and a fireman sam with 1 title and 5 chapters [09:17] uf. thunder and lightning [09:18] very very frightening? [09:18] me [09:19] MartijnVdS: my rational self isn't too frightened but I still want to crawl under the duvet or better yet if SO were home, sit in a car [09:19] bigcalm: I'd use gparted [09:19] * MooDoo is petrified of thunder and lightning :( [09:19] bigcalm: it has a "copy and paste" feature. boot off usb, plug both SATA drives in, copy/paste [09:20] it does? Awesomesauce [09:21] popey: perfect, just what I need [09:21] popey: ta [09:21] ya [09:21] the only thing you'll need to do is install a bootloader, but thats easy [09:22] That won't be taken across as well? [09:22] no [09:22] Oh [09:22] i used rsync when I did this on my laptop [09:27] An evening next week will be fun then === mgdm_ is now known as mgdm_t [10:22] my laptop is complaining about ripping dvds in this heat [10:22] wonder how hot it is [10:39] It's about a million degrees [10:40] I knows your doing bad things lol [11:09] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyT58M2RqsU === Moon is now known as Guest4214 [13:05] When installing a package that provides a service (in /etc/init.d - eg, MySQL) is it possible to have apt not automatically start it or is that down to how the package was build and configured? [13:06] Hello [13:09] Gargoyle: maybe if you drop something in /etc/default first? That's normally where they're controlled from I think [13:57] ... [13:57] ... [13:57] ,,, [13:57] ··· [13:57] ''' [13:57] ... [13:58] \o/ /o\ C A :) [13:58] popey: is euro truck simulator good? [13:58] ☃☃☃ [13:58] is there a good app for tagging mp4 files with id3 type info? [13:59] i realise the terminology may be wrong there [13:59] ali1234: its a bit dull [13:59] unsurprisingly [13:59] how detailed are the maps? [13:59] What about ET2? [13:59] they're truncated [13:59] musicbrainz picard [13:59] not completely accurate [13:59] MSEMJEJME: that does video too? [13:59] ali1234: btw my family like the cat pic ☻ [13:59] is there a freedb for vide too? [14:00] not sure about video [14:02] it links to the music brainz database with something like a file hash you can submit new or alternative entries [14:04] also has a shazam type analysis [14:05] popey: do you know if they ever added oculus rift support to the linux version? [14:05] looks like it only works with directx on windows [14:05] Read that as directhex [14:05] :| [14:06] I was wondering why it only worked for him [14:06] dunno [14:07] so far i only found 3 native games where it works [14:07] out of 181 [14:10] why do people with no knowledge of technology and the internet insist on making decisions? http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-28331598 [14:50] diddledan, That's like legislating against someone because they are influential! [14:50] "Hey, lots of people trust your opinion..... YOU MUST BE STOPPED!" [14:50] Although I wish someone would sue UKIP for having a lot of public visibility [14:51] awilkins: exactly [15:00] In transitGoole service centre [15:01] ^^ does that mean my ebuyer purchase hasn't moved yet? [15:01] foobarry: sounds a bit ghostly to me [15:01] sounds like it [15:02] DELIVERY DELAYS: Due to the M1 closure at J14 & J15, and a subsequent accident on the diversion route, some of our trailers have been delayed on their way to our local service centres. We are expecting some delivery delays in the following postcodes: CM, CT, E, EN, IG, ME, N, RM, SS, TN. [15:02] thats me then [15:02] nice of them to update you [15:02] van drivers are back at the depot sucking on a lolly [15:02] finally red arrows landing [15:03] yes, although its the yodel page, i didn't get a emai or txt [15:03] been loud for the last hour [15:03] popey: red arrows might be the answer to foobarry's delivery problem [15:03] i don;t think yodel actually picked it up form ebuyer yet [15:03] heh [15:04] :( [15:04] you know handbrakes autocrop? does it only remove black borders? [15:04] is such a noob at video rippage [15:04] I haven't ever tried video ripping [15:05] I would need a big thingy if I were to digitise my DVDs [15:05] most of our dvds are getting scratched badly [15:05] does handbrake utilise gpu-power? [15:05] and all of them are offset by one. i.e. wallace and gromit has got the hobbit in , the hobbit case has fireman sam, etc [15:05] gnu poewr, dunno about gpu [15:06] i have a 200 node HPC cluster which i'd love to use :D [15:06] probably not fair use though [15:06] lol [15:06] sorry couldnt cure cancer this year because foobarry had some scratched dvds [15:07] its prob more ethical to torrent dvds i own than waste HPC resource [15:07] aaron swartz got done for less [15:10] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54fDJKgjUrs [15:11] found a cdr from 1998 [15:11] full of windows stuff, emulators, roms and one book on linux ☻ [15:12] I remember spending many hours downloading an N64 ROM of Ocarina of Time on a 56k modem [15:12] 128! MEGA! bytes! [15:12] awilkins: how long did it take? [15:12] Days, on and off. [15:12] lol [15:13] I hated dialup because I used 0800 freeserve (and others) which had a 2hour cut-off [15:13] unlimited i hope, rather than pay permin [15:13] ungh. Air-source heat pump would be nice. [15:13] I had 2 dialup providers [15:13] remember when freeserve became worth more than dixons on account of having a large bank of modems? [15:13] awilkins, zelda isn't 128MB [15:14] One was ClaraNet [15:14] One was this dodgy company that provided 0800 dialup (with a 1 hour cutoff) in exchange for your "dividends on the shares you hold" [15:14] The owner peed off to Rio with all the money after a few months [15:14] But that was a BARGAIN [15:15] :S [15:15] I remember using RedHotAnt for a while [15:15] sounds rude [15:15] and x-stream [15:16] (also rude) [15:17] x-stream didn't work under alternative operating systems tho because they'd cut you off if you weren't running their dialer which displayed a banner on your screen for advertising [15:18] the banner couldn't be hidden [15:18] it just sat there cycling adverts while you were online [15:18] Couldn't be hidden.. without a piece of cardboard! [15:18] lol [15:18] Analog hole pwns you again! [15:19] remember GetRight? [15:19] directhex: do I ever [15:20] i think i might have a paid license to that [15:20] with the 2hour cut-off I needed it to maintain downloads across the barrier [15:21] yep [15:21] half-life patches were huge [15:21] 45MB! [15:22] I think I probably downloaded more back then than I do now [15:22] because I can now [15:22] so I don't feel the need to prove it [15:22] like boy-racers and their cars [15:23] the smaller the engine the more the boy racer behaves like a pr**k [15:25] Heh, GetRight... [15:25] Would even download multiple chunks from different servers at the same time [15:26] There are still such things (like DownloadThemAll! ) [15:26] or.. getright [15:26] (yes it still exists) [15:26] And of course, BitTorrent which is the logical next generation of "thing that downloads things from multiple servers and checks the integrity of chunks" [15:27] it's still straight out of the 90s: http://getright.com/ [15:29] they still claim windows95 support [15:30] I read that as "we haven't updated the program since windows 95 was around" [16:21] 6.2mb/s [16:21] yay [16:31] mapps: whatchoo *loading? [16:45] tv episodes [16:45] :D [16:45] hemlock grov s1 in 720p [18:33] wow, I've been silly-productive today [18:34] D: [18:34] https://www.dropbox.com/sh/rpfqi4xz9nxgx5j/AACAxEkpRRGQQnM2Lruz1Sira [18:34] totally makes no sense but a clean seems to have stopped keys not working \o/ [18:35] hmm [18:36] das keyboard were very nice, i email'd asking what was up with that - they offered to send me a free key cap puller and discount on buying a new keyboard despite being years out of warranty with my existing [18:36] well - only if i were in the US ;) [18:37] anyone using virginmedia uk here? [18:38] might be quicker to just ask your next question [18:39] ;] [18:39] well i m not sure i can set a dns server on my router from virgin [18:39] and it sounds annoying that my machines hostnames are not resolving in the network [18:40] oh [18:40] i added the router as a dns server to the list on my machine but it is not working [18:40] local hostnames have nothing to do with ISP DNS [18:40] thats why i though adding the router to the list of the dns could have helped [18:40] so is your internet connectivity not working either? [18:41] it is while i chat with you [18:41] the problem is not external sites, is getting my local machines to respond by name rather than remembering ips [18:42] what OSs are they all running? [18:42] ubuntu, mac, winzoz and some other linux in some boxes like the nas [18:44] i gotta be honest - relying upon hostname is relying upon all kinds of junk [18:44] i use IPs explicitly. run things i want to host services on with static internal IPs outside the DHCP scope [18:45] gebbione: how have you been configuring your DNS IPs? [18:46] in network connections ip4 just add DHCP addressess only [18:46] then list of dns [18:47] good stuff [18:47] hmm [18:47] whys my shoutcast server using old ip [18:47] argh [18:47] and added the original ones plus the router ip [18:47] daftykins, they don't give you a cap puller anyway? corsair do [18:47] directhex: i've had this thing over 5 years :> [18:47] times have changed a lot in keyboard land [18:49] true, mechanical keyboards are mundane now [18:49] i can walk into pc world and have a choice of them [18:50] must be novel to have retail options for tech :> [18:51] woo fixed [18:51] LD [18:51] :D [19:06] first 5 minutes has an interesting amount of irony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJNxbpbHA-I [19:12] diddledan: :D my my, kittens indeed [19:42] http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?action=lightning;sess= getting closer [19:43] * daftykins plays Jaws theme [19:44] i love a good storm over the channel [20:01] what is the .ts video format? just a container? [20:02] foobarry: that's dvd container [20:02] http://askubuntu.com/questions/3645/how-do-i-convert-ts-files-into-something-useful [20:02] which has mpeg2 inside [20:03] so no need to convert, hopefully plex et al will play this [20:03] it is likely encrypted if it's off a commercial dvd [20:04] in which case you'll need libdvdcss or some other way of decrypting it [20:06] its a self made file form my pvr [20:06] wow obama has gone quite grey in the last couple of years [20:07] sky is a spooky colour right now [20:08] plex forum confirms it should play [20:14] lightning passing us by http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?action=lightning;sess= [20:14] popey: heading up the east of london? [20:14] looks that way [20:14] boo [20:14] I want lightning! [20:15] we had a corker the other night [20:15] transport stream afaik, for .ts [20:15] it was about 500 yards away from my guess [20:15] it was certianly almost instantaneous flash and boom [20:15] and big badaboom [20:16] what do you mean by commercial DVD? it shouldn't have .ts if it's an actual film DVD [20:16] think we just had lightning [20:16] daftykins: sure it should [20:16] ...1...2...3...4 [20:16] baby's'room is 29.7 degrees [20:16] diddledan: wat, thems VOBs [20:16] ouch === root is now known as Guest16942 [20:17] daftykins: oh yeah, you're right - the folder is video_ts [20:17] that's where I got confused [20:17] :) [20:17] * daftykins pats diddledan on the shoulder [20:17] one ts isn't the same as another [20:17] actually my pvr creates a .rec file [20:17] which i copy over usb1 [20:17] then strip off first 60 bytes to make the .ts that it really is [20:18] TS == Transport Stream == the same container MPEG2 is brodcast over the air on [20:20] also, i notice dvd often have title 1 24:45s [20:20] and title2 24:44s [20:20] but they seem to be the same thing [20:20] whats that all about? which title to rip? [20:21] duplicate program chains are a method of copy protection [20:21] there's no 100% certain way to say, you just have to try it [20:21] :( [20:22] waa, my watch is batt flattery [20:22] but titles with ARCCoS protection won't be readable without shim software like AnyDVD on Windows [20:22] eww [20:22] * diddledan wanders off to plop it on the charger [20:22] i'm not sure of a Linux equivalent - we're talking titles that dd cannot help with [20:22] i wonder how they play on dvd players [20:22] well basically, DVD players are dumb enough to go "oh an error, i'll skip on" [20:23] whereas a PC (or rather the optical drive firmware) is trying to be a reliable interpreter and error check that read [20:23] are there many dvd like tis? [20:23] yep [20:23] i've had it on new pressings of old titles, new titles... no real rule to it [20:23] i remember i had X&Y by coldplay [20:24] although it tends to be that Sony Pictures and Disney titles are very common for it [20:24] and if you rip it to mp3 then it had nasty errors in [20:24] that cd players ignore [20:24] but the mp3 had KCCCHHHHHHT [20:24] every 20s [20:24] amusingly, when Sony first developed this protection, they rendered a lot of their own DVD players as obsolete, promising firmware updates but never releasing [20:24] haha, yeah nasty stuff [20:24] sometimes it doesn't even pay to be a legitimate consumer [20:24] so i never got round to properly getting a rip although i owned the cd [20:25] and who listens to cds? [20:25] i always buy on CD and rip to FLAC [20:25] i do not like this digital future idea of buying a product which is defective by design at the outset [20:25] although there is some music that i can buy online in FLAC straight away [20:26] nice, open places [20:26] the park? [20:26] :D [20:26] with swings and slides and jungle jims? [20:27] places such as these are where we enact our free use \o/ [20:27] or should that be jungle gyms? [20:27] dads are viewed suspicously inthose places [20:27] foobarry: so are uncles [20:27] and wobble boards [20:27] apparently it's frowned upon for me to say that a 6year old girl is "cute" [20:28] parks are the main place for dads with weekend access [20:28] or "pretty" [20:29] the problem is when your kids are on the other side of the playground and you are left on your phone browsing the web [20:31] Note: Installed Chrome apps do not support the Chromecast. Please use https://plex.tv/web for casting. [20:31] hmm [20:31] trying to decipher that message [20:46] foobarry: we employed a student a couple of years ago to rip 950+ film DVDs to disk, probably ended up with ~20 that couldn't be done via conventional methods :) [20:50] boo, lightning miles away [20:50] someone over on the east, can you point your fan out a westerly facing window please to blow it my way? [21:20] does rsync automatically remove files from remote ? [21:20] if deleted at source? [21:22] you need the --delete switch, IIRC [21:42] grmpf [21:43] still having trouble with strongswan [21:43] :( [21:57] hi there [22:01] hi [22:03] i think that i destryed my pc :P [22:03] oh dear! what's up? [22:04] *destroyed [22:04] i tried to upgrade from ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04 and now i cannt login :-/ [22:04] what did you run? [22:06] i faced some troubles and i run really many commands :p [22:07] and that's why i told you that i destryoed my pc [22:08] >_< [22:08] ffff [22:08] so right now you can't login graphically, but can you log in at a TTY? e.g. ctrl+alt+f1 should show a login [22:09] yes, i still can get a terminal by pressing ctrl alt f1 [22:09]