| Roguehorse | I've heard some people say they feel it would be best to only have one or two large one's in nor-cal rather than many small ones but I think having many smaller ones works better | 00:52 |
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| Roguehorse | Good Morning | 15:40 |
| grantbow | hi roguehorse | 16:26 |
| Roguehorse | Hey, what's going on? | 16:30 |
| grantbow | another day, another interview. what's going on for you? | 16:53 |
| pleia2 | coming home tomorrow \o/ | 17:12 |
| pleia2 | grantbow: good luck :) | 17:12 |
| pleia2 | jose: it's out! http://www.informit.com/store/official-ubuntu-book-9780133905397 | 17:15 |
| darthrobot` | Title: [Official Ubuntu Book, The, 8th Edition | InformIT] | 17:15 |
| grantbow | pleia2: grats | 17:17 |
| pleia2 | thanks :) | 17:17 |
| Roguehorse | grantbow: Oh, mostly homework I've been ignoring as I'm not a huge fan of history. | 17:19 |
| Roguehorse | I also need to make a final decision on my Masters program | 17:22 |
| Roguehorse | And I need to follow up on this gig my academic advisor wants to follow up with over at Cal State E-bay | 17:23 |
| Roguehorse | The gig involves a company called Mitel that has an installation there and the word is that they want someone for their data center | 17:24 |
| Roguehorse | although after my experience with AT&T I loathe the thought of getting involved with anything having to do with phone systems | 17:25 |
| Roguehorse | so I'm reluctant | 17:25 |
| Roguehorse | and I need someone to help me solve my issue with my Ubuntu apche server | 17:27 |
| Roguehorse | then if I can I'd like to spend some time on a PerlTk program I've been working on | 17:27 |
| grantbow | so many projects, so little time :-) I know the feeling. | 17:28 |
| Roguehorse | always, my wife complains | 17:28 |
| Roguehorse | I'm always working on something and she doesn't understand how someone can find so much to do on a computer | 17:29 |
| pleia2 | Roguehorse: is roguehorse the address you navigate to in your browser to try and access this? (ServerName) | 17:30 |
| Roguehorse | she mostly uses a computer for web surfing unless she's at work | 17:30 |
| Roguehorse | no, actually my hostname is set to linux | 17:31 |
| pleia2 | Roguehorse: I mean, when you go to browse it, what do you type in the addressbar? | 17:31 |
| Roguehorse | I noticed the addition from an update where localhost is still 127.0.0.1 but linux resolves to 127.0.1.1 | 17:32 |
| Roguehorse | that tripped me up for a few minutes until I went in a read the file again | 17:32 |
| pleia2 | try changing the ServerName to linux | 17:32 |
| * pleia2 hrms | 17:34 | |
| pleia2 | cgi-bin is a special kind of thing, so you might also reference cgi-specific docs for whatever cgi type you're using | 17:34 |
| Roguehorse | 404 | 17:36 |
| Roguehorse | at the moment I'm not so concerned about CGI as I got that working through 000-default so I have something to play with | 17:36 |
| Roguehorse | just tryingto resolve getting access to /srv | 17:37 |
| grantbow | user or group permissions look ok? | 17:37 |
| pleia2 | Roguehorse: /var/log/apache2/error.log might help | 17:37 |
| * grantbow rereads | 17:37 | |
| Roguehorse | yes, I did remember to sudo service apache2 restart *every time* | 17:37 |
| pleia2 | could tell you what it's denying access to | 17:38 |
| grantbow | +1 | 17:39 |
| Roguehorse | it's not | 17:40 |
| pleia2 | that's weird, it should log what it's trying to access for any 404s | 17:41 |
| grantbow | maybe the wrong error.log | 17:41 |
| grantbow | is there more than one? | 17:41 |
| Roguehorse | errorlog and errorlog1 | 17:43 |
| Roguehorse | hold on | 17:44 |
| pleia2 | Roguehorse: oh, try the access.log | 17:44 |
| pleia2 | clearly my brain has turned to mush today :) | 17:44 |
| Roguehorse | no worries, I appreciate any brain action I can get to help fix this : ) | 17:45 |
| pleia2 | or been cooked, was 90F here today and the Deutsche Telekom office we were working in had no air conditioning | 17:45 |
| pleia2 | crazy germans | 17:45 |
| Roguehorse | AH00169: caught SIGTERM, shutting down | 17:46 |
| grantbow | AHa! | 17:46 |
| Roguehorse | AH00163: Apache/2.4.7 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.5.9-1ubuntu4.3 mod_perl/2.0.8 Perl/v5.18.2 configured -- resuming normal operations | 17:46 |
| Roguehorse | AH00094: Command line: '/usr/sbin/apache2' | 17:46 |
| pleia2 | so that log should have any attempts to access files on the server logged | 17:46 |
| Roguehorse | let me look at the access log | 17:47 |
| Roguehorse | 127.0.0.1 - - [18/Jul/2014:10:35:57 -0700] "GET /srv/ HTTP/1.1" 404 488 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/36.0.1985.125 Safari/537.36" | 17:48 |
| Roguehorse | that's the last entry | 17:48 |
| pleia2 | what exactly are you typing in the addressbar to access it? | 17:48 |
| Roguehorse | so does it have something to do with linux being associated with 127.0.1.1? | 17:49 |
| Roguehorse | linux/srv/ | 17:49 |
| pleia2 | drop the srv | 17:49 |
| Roguehorse | and I have a basic html file there | 17:49 |
| pleia2 | you set srv as the document root, which means it lives at / | 17:49 |
| pleia2 | so linux/ | 17:49 |
| pleia2 | linux/srv/ will attempt to go to /srv/srv | 17:50 |
| Roguehorse | LOL! You're my hero!!! : ) | 17:50 |
| pleia2 | hooray! | 17:50 |
| Roguehorse | so it was working all along and I was just trying to access it like the default apache setup | 17:51 |
| pleia2 | yep | 17:51 |
| Roguehorse | well, I have definitely learned something today! YOU ROCK! | 17:51 |
| pleia2 | phew, earned my "I wrote the BOOK on Ubuntu" cred for the day | 17:52 |
| Roguehorse | So now I can piddle around with CGI from that address | 17:52 |
| pleia2 | yeah, so hopefully it ends up in linux/cgi-bin | 17:52 |
| Roguehorse | +1000! | 17:52 |
| Roguehorse | should | 17:53 |
| grantbow | lol | 17:53 |
| Roguehorse | so to access the default /var/www I still use the recursive addresses? | 17:54 |
| pleia2 | well, in the default case of /var/www the DocumentRoot is set to /var/www | 17:54 |
| Roguehorse | yep- | 17:54 |
| pleia2 | so anything you put under it shows up as /srv or whatever | 17:54 |
| grantbow | ubuntu does not equal apache, it's just the killer app of linux :-) | 17:54 |
| pleia2 | same deal here, just that you set it as /srv now | 17:54 |
| pleia2 | so /var/www/kittens is the same as /srv/kittens | 17:55 |
| Roguehorse | well if I access linux/var/www/html it shortens to linux/<website folder> | 17:55 |
| pleia2 | yep | 17:56 |
| Roguehorse | remember they added that extra folder in there (for whatever reason) | 17:56 |
| pleia2 | well | 17:56 |
| pleia2 | no | 17:56 |
| pleia2 | if you acces linux/var/www/html it will look to the filesystem for /srv/var/www/html | 17:57 |
| Roguehorse | however, I can access CGI-BIN from /var/www just short of the html directory | 17:57 |
| pleia2 | my dinner has arrived! | 17:57 |
| Roguehorse | ah!? I will have to play with this.. : ) | 17:58 |
| Roguehorse | Go EAT! | 17:58 |
| pleia2 | :) have fun | 17:58 |
| jose | pleia2: yay! :D | 18:39 |
| Roguehorse | ok, I'm having problems establishing recursion | 18:52 |
| * ianorlin just got back from an interview as well | 19:04 | |
| grantbow | +1 | 19:18 |
| ianorlin | sometimes it feels so endogenous when you can't get expirence because you have none | 19:19 |
| Roguehorse | I hear that a lot, it's why we do volunteer work | 19:46 |
| DonkeyHotei | Roguehorse: i volunteered a lot of my time, and it never counted as experience | 21:23 |
| * ianorlin thinks autism makes it much hareder for someone to get real world expirence | 21:34 | |
| DonkeyHotei | it makes a lot of real-world things harder | 21:36 |
| Roguehorse | ianorlin: LOL! | 21:41 |
| ianorlin | Roguehorse: how is that funny? | 21:41 |
| Roguehorse | DonkeyHotei: Well, guess I'll just be a lifer volunteer then : ) | 21:41 |
| Roguehorse | ianorlin: Sorry, thought you were making an off-color joke. But you're right, I suppose it would make things a bit difficult. | 21:44 |
| Roguehorse | DonkeyHotei: Still much better to love a $10/hr job than loathe a $50/hr job; money and title don't mean much if a person hates what they're doing | 23:57 |
| DonkeyHotei | Roguehorse: what about loathing the $10/hr job? because that's more realistic | 23:59 |
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