[00:52] <Roguehorse> I've heard some people say they feel it would be best to only have one or two large one's in nor-cal rather than many small ones but I think having many smaller ones works better
[15:40] <Roguehorse> Good Morning
[16:26] <grantbow> hi roguehorse
[16:30] <Roguehorse> Hey, what's going on?
[16:53] <grantbow> another day, another interview. what's going on for you?
[17:12] <pleia2> coming home tomorrow \o/
[17:12] <pleia2> grantbow: good luck :)
[17:15] <pleia2> jose: it's out! http://www.informit.com/store/official-ubuntu-book-9780133905397
[17:15] <darthrobot`> Title: [Official Ubuntu Book, The, 8th Edition | InformIT]
[17:17] <grantbow> pleia2: grats
[17:17] <pleia2> thanks :)
[17:19] <Roguehorse> grantbow: Oh, mostly homework I've been ignoring as I'm not a huge fan of history.
[17:22] <Roguehorse> I also need to make a final decision on my Masters program
[17:23] <Roguehorse> And I need to follow up on this gig my academic advisor wants to follow up with over at Cal State E-bay
[17:24] <Roguehorse> The gig involves a company called Mitel that has an installation there and the word is that they want someone for their data center
[17:25] <Roguehorse> although after my experience with AT&T I loathe the thought of getting involved with anything having to do with phone systems
[17:25] <Roguehorse> so I'm reluctant
[17:27] <Roguehorse> and I need someone to help me solve my issue with my Ubuntu apche server
[17:27] <Roguehorse> then if I can I'd like to spend some time on a PerlTk program I've been working on
[17:28] <grantbow> so many projects, so little time :-) I know the feeling.
[17:28] <Roguehorse> always, my wife complains
[17:29] <Roguehorse> I'm always working on something and she doesn't understand how someone can find so much to do on a computer
[17:30] <pleia2> Roguehorse: is roguehorse the address you navigate to in your browser to try and access this? (ServerName)
[17:30] <Roguehorse> she mostly uses a computer for web surfing unless she's at work
[17:31] <Roguehorse> no, actually my hostname is set to linux
[17:31] <pleia2> Roguehorse: I mean, when you go to browse it, what do you type in the addressbar?
[17:32] <Roguehorse> I noticed the addition from an update where localhost is still 127.0.0.1 but linux resolves to 127.0.1.1
[17:32] <Roguehorse> that tripped me up for a few minutes until I went in a read the file again
[17:32] <pleia2> try changing the ServerName to linux
[17:34]  * pleia2 hrms
[17:34] <pleia2> cgi-bin is a special kind of thing, so you might also reference cgi-specific docs for whatever cgi type you're using
[17:36] <Roguehorse> 404
[17:36] <Roguehorse> at the moment I'm not so concerned about CGI as I got that working through 000-default so I have something to play with
[17:37] <Roguehorse> just tryingto resolve getting access to /srv
[17:37] <grantbow> user or group permissions look ok?
[17:37] <pleia2> Roguehorse: /var/log/apache2/error.log might help
[17:37]  * grantbow rereads
[17:37] <Roguehorse> yes, I did remember to sudo service apache2 restart *every time*
[17:38] <pleia2> could tell you what it's denying access to
[17:39] <grantbow> +1
[17:40] <Roguehorse> it's not
[17:41] <pleia2> that's weird, it should log what it's trying to access for any 404s
[17:41] <grantbow> maybe the wrong error.log
[17:41] <grantbow> is there more than one?
[17:43] <Roguehorse> errorlog and errorlog1
[17:44] <Roguehorse> hold on
[17:44] <pleia2> Roguehorse: oh, try the access.log
[17:44] <pleia2> clearly my brain has turned to mush today :)
[17:45] <Roguehorse> no worries, I appreciate any brain action I can get to help fix this : )
[17:45] <pleia2> or been cooked, was 90F here today and the Deutsche Telekom office we were working in had no air conditioning
[17:45] <pleia2> crazy germans
[17:46] <Roguehorse> AH00169: caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[17:46] <grantbow> AHa!
[17:46] <Roguehorse> AH00163: Apache/2.4.7 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.5.9-1ubuntu4.3 mod_perl/2.0.8 Perl/v5.18.2 configured -- resuming normal operations
[17:46] <Roguehorse> AH00094: Command line: '/usr/sbin/apache2'
[17:46] <pleia2> so that log should have any attempts to access files on the server logged
[17:47] <Roguehorse> let me look at the access log
[17:48] <Roguehorse> 127.0.0.1 - - [18/Jul/2014:10:35:57 -0700] "GET /srv/ HTTP/1.1" 404 488 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/36.0.1985.125 Safari/537.36"
[17:48] <Roguehorse> that's the last entry
[17:48] <pleia2> what exactly are you typing in the addressbar to access it?
[17:49] <Roguehorse> so does it have something to do with linux being associated with 127.0.1.1?
[17:49] <Roguehorse> linux/srv/
[17:49] <pleia2> drop the srv
[17:49] <Roguehorse> and I have a basic html file there
[17:49] <pleia2> you set srv as the document root, which means it lives at /
[17:49] <pleia2> so linux/
[17:50] <pleia2> linux/srv/ will attempt to go to /srv/srv
[17:50] <Roguehorse> LOL! You're my hero!!! : )
[17:50] <pleia2> hooray!
[17:51] <Roguehorse> so it was working all along and I was just trying to access it like the default apache setup
[17:51] <pleia2> yep
[17:51] <Roguehorse> well, I have definitely learned something today! YOU ROCK!
[17:52] <pleia2> phew, earned my "I wrote the BOOK on Ubuntu" cred for the day
[17:52] <Roguehorse> So now I can piddle around with CGI from that address
[17:52] <pleia2> yeah, so hopefully it ends up in linux/cgi-bin
[17:52] <Roguehorse> +1000!
[17:53] <Roguehorse> should
[17:53] <grantbow> lol
[17:54] <Roguehorse> so to access the default /var/www I still use the recursive addresses?
[17:54] <pleia2> well, in the default case of /var/www the DocumentRoot is set to /var/www
[17:54] <Roguehorse> yep-
[17:54] <pleia2> so anything you put under it shows up as /srv or whatever
[17:54] <grantbow> ubuntu does not equal apache, it's just the killer app of linux :-)
[17:54] <pleia2> same deal here, just that you set it as /srv now
[17:55] <pleia2> so /var/www/kittens is the same as /srv/kittens
[17:55] <Roguehorse> well if I access linux/var/www/html it shortens to linux/<website folder>
[17:56] <pleia2> yep
[17:56] <Roguehorse> remember they added that extra folder in there (for whatever reason)
[17:56] <pleia2> well
[17:56] <pleia2> no
[17:57] <pleia2> if you acces linux/var/www/html it will look to the filesystem for /srv/var/www/html
[17:57] <Roguehorse> however, I can access CGI-BIN from /var/www just short of the html directory
[17:57] <pleia2> my dinner has arrived!
[17:58] <Roguehorse> ah!? I will have to play with this.. : )
[17:58] <Roguehorse> Go EAT!
[17:58] <pleia2> :) have fun
[18:39] <jose> pleia2: yay! :D
[18:52] <Roguehorse> ok, I'm having problems establishing recursion
[19:04]  * ianorlin just got back from an interview as well
[19:18] <grantbow> +1
[19:19] <ianorlin> sometimes it feels so endogenous when you can't get expirence because you have none
[19:46] <Roguehorse> I hear that a lot, it's why we do volunteer work
[21:23] <DonkeyHotei> Roguehorse: i volunteered a lot of my time, and it never counted as experience
[21:34]  * ianorlin thinks autism makes it much hareder for someone to get real world expirence
[21:36] <DonkeyHotei> it makes a lot of real-world things harder
[21:41] <Roguehorse> ianorlin: LOL!
[21:41] <ianorlin> Roguehorse: how is that funny?
[21:41] <Roguehorse> DonkeyHotei: Well, guess I'll just be a lifer volunteer then : )
[21:44] <Roguehorse> ianorlin: Sorry, thought you were making an off-color joke. But you're right, I suppose it would make things a bit difficult.
[23:57] <Roguehorse> DonkeyHotei: Still much better to love a $10/hr job than loathe a $50/hr job; money and title don't mean much if a person hates what they're doing
[23:59] <DonkeyHotei> Roguehorse: what about loathing the $10/hr job? because that's more realistic