[00:00] <Bashing-om> newb: To stop X -> sudo service lightdm stop <- .
[00:00] <newb> ok
[00:01] <newb> hmmm, im stuck in black screen
[00:01] <super> newb, ctrl+alt+f1
[00:01] <super> or f2
[00:01] <newb> ok im in that
[00:01] <newb> now install nvidia drivers
[00:01] <super> yes newb
[00:02] <newb> ok, its installing
[00:02] <super> congrats
[00:02] <newb> thanks for the help, super.
[00:02] <super> don't forget to edit grub and make it permanent
[00:02] <super> sudo vi /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[00:03] <newb> yes i have that in mt tab. will do that very soon
[00:03] <newb> *my
[00:03] <super> look for "quiet splash" next to it add modeset.nouveau=0 dont delete quiet splash
[00:03] <newb> ok
[00:04] <super> newb, note, when you do update you will have to do this again except editing grub
[00:04] <newb> ok, I'll remember that
[00:06] <super> newb, you know how to use vi right?
[00:06] <newb> nope. im using pico
[00:06] <newb> where the hell is quite splash
[00:07] <super> newb, type /quiet
[00:07] <super> it should search for that word for you
[00:07] <blz> Hello, when running `speaker-test -D hdmi -c 6` I'm getting the following error:  `ALSA lib pcm.c:2239:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.hdmi`.  Can anybody help me debug this problem?
[00:07] <super> if you are in vi mode
[00:07] <newb> ok
[00:08] <newb> found it
[00:08] <newb> where do i add the rest next to?
[00:08] <super> after splash just add modeset.nouveau=0
[00:09] <newb> fuck
[00:09] <newb> i screwed up
[00:09] <super> sssh newb can't curse
[00:09] <phunyguy> language please
[00:09] <newb> sorry
[00:09] <super> if you mess up just exit don't save
[00:09] <phunyguy> s'ok, just read the guidelines please
[00:09] <eeee> can someone help confirm a bug in ubuntu 14.04 ?
[00:09] <newb> how do i exit :q
[00:09] <rtl8188ce> hello folks, i have this built-in wifi adapter Realtek RTL8188CE in my laptop, just did a fresh install of 14.04 LTS but my signal and download/upload speed are both fluctuating wildly. I tried many suggested solutions on askubuntu and several other websites but the problem is persistent. I'm not getting this when i boot into win-7 so i presume that some setting / driver incompatibility is causing this. can i get some suggestions?
[00:09] <super> :q
[00:09] <yeats> !bug | eeee
[00:09] <super> type :q!
[00:09] <eeee> yeats: thanks
[00:10] <newb> how do i edit this thing?
[00:10] <eeee> it's a bug in a command though not a package
[00:10] <super> newb, are you using vi?
[00:10] <newb> :e
[00:10] <newb> yes
[00:10] <eeee> can someone try it, so i know it's not only me
[00:10] <super> okay type /quiet
[00:10] <newb> i did
[00:10] <super>  press the Insert
[00:10] <MalGen> #torchat
[00:10] <furkan> rtl8188ce: maybe you can try compiling the driver from source
[00:10] <super> this will let you edit
[00:10] <newb> ok
[00:10] <super> when you finish edit press Esc
[00:10] <super> :wq
[00:11] <newb> ok.
[00:11] <newb> modest.noveau = 0?
[00:11] <super> modeset.nouveau=0 no spacing
[00:11] <newb> ok
[00:11] <furkan> rtl8188ce: a colleague of mine had an issue with his realtek gigabit onboard ethernet. ubuntu had installed the PCI driver when it should have been the PCI-E driver. so we just downloaded the source from realtek's site and compiled/installed the driver, worked fine after that
[00:12] <super> newb when you want to save press Esc
[00:12] <super> and type :wq
[00:12] <newb> so i have this : "quiet splash modest.nouveau=0"
[00:12] <newb> ok
[00:12] <super> newb, perfect
[00:13] <super> before restart sudo nvidia-xconfig
[00:13] <rtl8188ce> even here i have a fluctuating ping from 1s to 46s, and nothing else other than xchat is using the bandwidth atm.
[00:13] <furkan> actually
[00:13] <eeee> yeats: if i pick other it keeps asking for a package, it's a bug in the "login" command
[00:13] <furkan> you've got a typo newb, should be "modeset" shouldn't it?
[00:13] <newb> really? Darn
[00:13] <super> newb, modeset.nouveau=0
[00:14] <super> go back edit it again
[00:14] <newb> ok
[00:14] <newb> edit that part
[00:14] <newb> modeset
[00:15] <super> sudo nvidia-xconfig
[00:15] <super> then sudo shutdown -r now
[00:15] <newb> ok
[00:16] <rtl8188ce> thank you i will try to do the same, bbiab.
[00:16] <doctorpepper> hi guys !
[00:16] <newb> the screen is too big
[00:16] <eeee> if you try to login, but don't enter the password(not login name), it'll say login timed out after 60 seconds. and the terminal will go bazzerk, at least on my pc.
[00:17] <super> eeee, kind of video card you running on?
[00:17] <newb> uh oh. everything is gone
[00:17] <super> newb, what do you mean everything is gone?
[00:17] <newb> well besides the mouse and back ground
[00:17] <newb> i don't see the unity luancher
[00:18] <super> did you restart yet?
[00:18] <newb> yes
[00:18] <newb> i restarted
[00:18] <super> you type sudo nvidia-xconfig before restart?
[00:18] <newb> yes
[00:19] <super> newb your video card is nvidia gt 8600 right?
[00:19] <newb> no, its nvidia gefroce 8400 gs
[00:19] <newb> im also using my chipset nvidia
[00:19] <super> oh okay
[00:21] <newb> he chipset NVIDIA geforce 6150SE nforce 430 GPU
[00:21] <newb> *the
[00:21] <Bashing-om> newb: Hybrid graphics ? No support from Nvidia .
[00:21] <newb> i got the drivers for them
[00:21] <newb> I just installed the drivers for it.
[00:21] <super> newb, are you using the onboard card or the other one nvidia 8400 gs
[00:22] <newb> onboard card
[00:22] <newb> both of them should work
[00:22] <super> go to your bios settings and have it select your pci-e as your default video card
[00:22] <Bashing-om> newb: IF it is hybrid graphics on your mchine .. no support from Nvidia .. there may be other options ..
[00:22] <newb> my card is on PCI
[00:23] <newb> let me check though
[00:23] <super> newb, change the onboard to pci-e or PEG as your primary video card
[00:24] <newb> ok
[00:25] <newb> ok
[00:25] <newb> now what
[00:25] <newb> shit
[00:25] <newb> i can't see anything
[00:25] <blz> How can I configure my nvidia graphics card's HDMI port to be the default audio-out?
[00:25] <newb> im sorry
[00:25] <newb> cursing is my way of anger
[00:26] <IdleOne> do it out loud and not in here
[00:27] <newb> i logged in but the cad is inpci
[00:27] <newb> *card
[00:27] <super> newb your monitor what is it plugging into on the back of your computer?
[00:27] <newb> yes
[00:27] <super> is it on the pci-e video card or the onboard one?
[00:28] <newb> onboard
[00:28] <super> unplug the onboard one and plug it to the pci-e card instead
[00:28] <newb> ok
[00:28] <newb> gimme a sec
[00:29] <newb> nothing
[00:29] <super> restart the computer
[00:29] <newb> just a black background with blue lines
[00:30] <newb> ok
[00:30] <newb> it works
[00:30] <newb> how
[00:30] <super> hahaha
[00:30] <newb> why?
[00:31] <newb> what if I want dual monitors?
[00:31] <super> if you dual monitor you will have to run it out of the pci-e card
[00:31] <newb> ok
[00:31] <super> you have dvi, vga, and hdmi on that card right?
[00:31] <newb> so no more onboard?
[00:31] <newb> vga
[00:32] <super> yes don't use the onboard taht thing eat up your system memory
[00:32] <super> dedicated card got its own memory
[00:32] <newb> ok
[00:32] <newb> but now im missing the unity stuff
[00:32] <newb> i dont see the apps
[00:33] <super> alt+ctrl+f2
[00:33] <super> login and do the update from there
[00:33] <newb> ok
[00:33] <super> sudo apt-get install update
[00:33] <newb> sudo apt-get update
[00:33] <newb> ok
[00:33] <super> might have to reinstall the video card again
[00:33] <newb> really?
[00:34] <super> doesn't take long at all
[00:34] <newb> E: unable to locate package
[00:35] <super> you have it on your usb right?
[00:35] <super> ls /dev/sd*
[00:35] <newb> have what on my usb?
[00:35] <super> your nvidia driver
[00:35] <newb> yes
[00:35] <super> oh... unable to locate package error
[00:36] <super> newb, type ifconfig to see if you are connected to the internet
[00:36] <newb> ok
[00:36] <newb> im online
[00:37] <super> eth0 gave you IP like 192.168.1.x?
[00:37] <newb> no
[00:37] <newb> i have a wirless adapter
[00:37] <newb> Iwireless
[00:38] <super> oh great now we have to manually get you to connect to the internet through your wifi
[00:38] <newb> i can restart and log in from boot
[00:38] <newb> or from login
[00:39] <super> under wlan0 the line below Link encap:
[00:39] <super> inet addr: 192.168.1.x?
[00:39] <newb> im logged in
[00:40] <super> newb, go ahead sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[00:40] <super> you will get all of your unity stuff back
[00:40] <newb> ok
[00:41] <newb> nothing happened. no installation.
[00:41] <newb> just reading packages
[00:41] <super> newb, go ahead sudo apt-get reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[00:41] <newb> ok
[00:41] <newb> invalid operation
[00:42] <newb> E:invalid operation
[00:42] <super> sudo apt-get reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[00:42] <newb> E:invalid operation reinstall
[00:42] <newb> i getting that error
[00:42] <newb> *im
[00:43] <super> newb, sudo apt-get -f install
[00:43] <super> sudo apt-get autoclean
[00:43] <newb> ok
[00:44] <newb> done
[00:44] <newb> should i log in and see?
[00:44] <super> yeah try
[00:44] <newb> k
[00:45] <newb> nothing. All I see is my mouse and the background
[00:45] <super> alt+f2
[00:45] <Bashing-om> newb: try as -> sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop <- .
[00:45] <newb> ok
[00:45] <super> thats the one i was looking for the --reinstall
[00:46] <newb> nothing
[00:46] <Geo> from a grub rescue prompt, after i set prefix, set root, insmod normal, insmod linux, initrd, boot; I get a flashing cursor and no bootup. Is that a sign of a common error? or something more nefarious?
[00:47] <super> newb, restart hold Shift
[00:47] <newb> ok
[00:47] <kostkon> newb, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[00:47] <super> look for "quiet splash" and replace it with nomodeset
[00:48] <newb> ok
[00:49] <Bashing-om> Geo: maybe like : -> linux (hd0,msdos1)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro , initrd (hd0,msdos1)/initrd.img , boot <- where root is on 1st hard drive 1st partition.
[00:50] <newb> ok now i see unity
[00:50] <super> congrat newb
[00:50] <super> make nomodeset permanent on that grub
[00:50] <newb> how do we save this
[00:50] <newb> ok
[00:51] <super> sudo vi /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[00:51] <super> replace "quiet splash" with "nomodeset"
[00:51] <super> enjoy the scrolling text everytime you boot up your system
[00:52] <newb> ok
[00:53] <super> newb, thats all you needed the help with right?
[00:53] <newb> yeah
[00:54] <newb> there's two quite splash
[00:54] <Geo> Bashing-om, thats actually what I did
[00:54] <newb> which one do i pit nomodeset
[00:54] <Geo> except initrd /initrd.img , etc
[00:54] <newb> put
[00:54] <super> newb, don't worry about the 2nd quiet splash the 1st is read first
[00:54] <newb> ok
[00:54] <Geo> I believe setting prefix= does the same thing as what you pasted
[00:55] <newb> so i have this : "nomodeset modeset.nouveau=0"
[00:56] <Bashing-om> Geo: And all you get is a flashing cursor ? No additional help/hints ?
[00:56] <Geo> not a thing on the screen
[00:56] <super> newb, sudo cp /boot/grub/grub.cfg  /boot/grub/grub.cfg.bak
[00:56] <super> newb thats right
[00:56] <Bashing-om> Geo: from the grub > prompt command -> set <- to see what variable are set .
[00:57] <newb> ok
[00:57] <Geo> Bashing-om: yep, did that, things *look* ok, but I'm no expert
[00:57] <Geo> nothing jumps out as crazy
[00:57] <Geo> but maybe you can help with the root problem
[00:58] <Geo> pulled this HD out of a different machine (works fine there), dropped it into this one
[00:58] <newb> i made the copy, too
[00:58] <Geo> when I boot, it gives me UUID blablabla not found
[00:58] <newb> should i retart and see
[00:58] <Geo> which I believe was an old drive in the previous machine
[00:58] <newb> *restart
[00:58] <usr13> Geo: sudo fdisk -l  #See what that says about it.
[00:58] <Geo> so in theory, i just need to remove that, but not sure where to do it, as I don't see it in any of the normal places
[00:58] <Bashing-om> Geo: I do like boot situations, in legacy - I have no experience with UEFI booting .. Are we working with the legacy msdos/MBR partitioning scheme ?
[00:58] <super> Geo, echo "- - -" > /sys/class/scsi_host/host0/scan
[00:59] <super> Geo, if that hard drive is lvm you will have to activate it
[00:59] <Geo> Bashing-om, created it in a 12.04 environment, ext3 , so... no? I don't think so?
[01:00] <super> Bashing-om, the benefit of UEFI is fast boot everything else the same performance as legacy
[01:01] <Bashing-om> super: Yeah, however, UEFI= EFI= GPT Partitioning so the boot code is installed differently.
[01:01] <newb> YES, I HAVE DUAL MONITORS.
[01:01] <newb> it works
[01:01] <super> haha newb
[01:01] <newb> hahaha!
[01:02] <super> remember what you did newb
[01:02] <super> don't forget or else you will be back here asking for help again
[01:02] <usr13> notes, notes, notes
[01:02] <newb> i will never forget
[01:02] <usr13> Your notes won't...
[01:02] <baus> ubuntu is the best
[01:02] <usr13> notes.txt is your friend
[01:03] <Bashing-om> Geo: As usr13 advises, need to compare UUID's from 'fdisk' to what is in /boot/grub/grub.cfg .
[01:03] <newb> this was easy to remember
[01:03] <Geo> Bashing-om, so if I go back to the working machine w/ this drive, whats the proper way to remove references to this missing drive?
[01:03] <Geo> I don't believe fdisk lists UUID...
[01:03] <Geo> blkid does
[01:03] <usr13> Geo: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit  #Let's have a look see.
[01:03] <super> newb, you haven't mess around with LVM yet right?
[01:03] <newb> what is LVM?
[01:03] <super> logical volume management
[01:03] <newb> nope
[01:04] <Geo> Bashing-om, and I know there are references to the old drive in grub.cfg
[01:04] <Geo> but iirc, you're not supposed to edit that directly?
[01:04] <super> you can stack millions of hard drive together and treat them all as one big volume
[01:04] <newb> how?
[01:04] <usr13> Geo: sudo blkid
[01:04] <Geo> but I'm not sure how to remove stuff from it otherwise
[01:05] <undata> can anyone tell me why chosing to use a routed network in virt-manager doesn't just work out of the box?
[01:05] <Geo> usr13: yes, I've already done that, as I implied above... what are you looking for, exactly? I can already tell you the drive that grub says is missing is indeed missing, and wont show up there
[01:05] <newb> im going to eat. SUPER, thank you so much. I learned a lot today because of you.
[01:05] <undata> in my case the guest got an IP from the host, can ping the host, however the guest can't hit the internet and the host can't ping the guest
[01:05] <usr13> Geo: Not knowing what you have, I can not help you.
[01:06] <super> alright newb glad I could help
[01:06] <usr13> Geo: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit  #Let's have a look see.
[01:06] <newb> bye :)
[01:06] <Bashing-om> Geo: All true, you been doing your home work ! -- once we know what we are looking at then edit the files that are parsed to make up grub.cfg.
[01:07] <usr13> Geo: Actually, I don't think blkid needs sudo, (but fdisk does).
[01:08] <Geo> Bashing-om, its quite the pain to swap drives, connect machines to the network, etc, so I'm not inclined to put this back in just to tell you I have one disk in the machine :P How do I remove an entry from grub.cfg, properly?
[01:08] <Geo> I know the UUID I need to remove
[01:08] <Geo> but Im' hesitant to just start removing lines of config from it
[01:08] <super> undata try selecting different NAT card for your virtual network
[01:08] <undata> super: ah could it be my wifi?
[01:09] <usr13> Geo: We can't do it for you, so....
[01:09] <super> don't think the wifi is the problem I run virtualbox and I can get my virtual OS to get online just fine
[01:09] <undata> super: yeah I was gonna try virtualbox next
[01:09] <undata> virt-manager and I haven't been getting along well
[01:09] <super> easier with virtualbox more scatter online documents to read
[01:10] <Geo> usr13: again, what info are you looking for? I have a drive at /cciss/c0p0 . It has a UUID X. When I boot, grub says cant find UUID Y. But that info has nothing to do with generic instructions on how to remove entries from grub, which is my question here
[01:10] <Bashing-om> Geo: You can not boot a liveDVD(USB) on the machine the problem exist on ?
[01:11] <usr13> Geo: Too many hypotheticals
[01:11] <Geo> I'm trying right now, but it seems to be having video problems. I'm a special case.
[01:11] <Geo> cant drop down to command line for some reason
[01:11] <super> never hurt to add nomodeset if you have problem booting up
[01:13] <usr13> Geo: Ctrl-Alt-F6 ?
[01:13] <usr13> Geo: or F2 ?
[01:13] <Geo> video problems
[01:13] <Geo> no output
[01:13] <Geo> blank screen, universal
[01:14] <usr13> Geo: VGA?
[01:14] <Geo> yes
[01:14] <Geo> i mean, it starts to boot
[01:14] <Geo> splash screen, etc
[01:14] <Geo> but once its about time to return to the user for input, thats when it craps out
[01:14] <usr13> Geo Are there more than one VGA ports?
[01:14] <Geo> nope
[01:14] <usr13> Geo: Ctrl-Alt-F6 ?
[01:15] <Geo> usr13, yes
[01:15] <Geo> no output on any terminal
[01:15] <usr13> Geo: What boot disk are you using?
[01:15] <Geo> 14
[01:15] <Geo> is there a way to force low graphics mode from the splash screen?
[01:15] <usr13> Geo: Yes
[01:16] <super> Geo, what kind of video card you have?  I think you have the same problem as newb
[01:16] <super> Geo, yes use nomodeset
[01:16] <Bashing-om> Geo: Another thought IF you know the target UUID -> linux (hd0,msdos1)/vmlinuz root=UUID=xxxxxxxx ro .
[01:16] <super> edit grub replace "quiet splash" and add "nomodeset"
[01:17] <Geo> usr13: and what would that be?
[01:17] <usr13> Geo: I think you just add text to the end of the kernel line?
[01:17] <Geo> Bashing-om ah, I didn't know I could do that, thought it only took /dev/ arguments
[01:20] <usr13> Geo: I think now days, you hit F6 at the first boot screen of the LiveCD.
[01:20] <Geo> no options in there suggest low graphics mode directly
[01:21] <Geo> unless one of the options means it, that I can't decipher
[01:21] <Geo> ok, got it up this time, for an unknown reason
[01:22] <Geo> mounted the drive
[01:22] <xuboo> hello, wondering if someone could help me out with soundcard issue
[01:22] <unreal-dude> ive been having an issue I cant figure out lately. ubuntu 13.10 will not update anything. I realized its EOL and went to update to 14.04 and it says its totally up to date. I suspect that apt is confused. Is there a way to reset apt or has anyone else had this issue lately?
[01:22] <super> xuboo, pulseaudio -k
[01:22] <super> run that in terminal
[01:23] <xuboo> no response
[01:23] <super> the speaker icon is it X out?
[01:23] <xuboo> sudo pulseaudio -k said core-util.c home dir not accessible permission denied
[01:23] <xuboo> don't see speaker icon
[01:24] <xuboo> it was on in a previous book up
[01:24] <xuboo> *boot up
[01:24] <super> xuboo, which version of ubuntu are you running?
[01:24] <Bashing-om> unreal-dude: did you do in terminal -> sudo do-release-upgrade <- ?
[01:24] <super> easiest fix would be to sudo apt-get install update
[01:24] <stanreg> Installed Ubuntu, with the "Replace Win 7 with Ubuntu" option -- turns out it cleared all of my partitions, not only the WinOS partition. What can one do? Any recovery options^^>>
[01:25] <unreal-dude> Bashing-om yes, it says 'No new release found'
[01:25] <xuboo> really it's xubuntu 14.04 =/
[01:25] <super> stanreg, how did you partition your hard drive?
[01:25] <xuboo> i put pulse into start menu, it brought up volume controls and output lists Dummy Output
[01:26] <xuboo> lspci lists the audio card on the system
[01:26] <super> xuboo, let me use the google power for sec
[01:26] <xuboo> google power has failed me hehe
[01:26] <super> i mean my google-fu
[01:27] <xuboo> may I post URL in here?
[01:27] <super> xuboo, go for it
[01:27] <xuboo> i tried this - http://hennr.name/2011/09/05/asrock-4coredual-sata2-r20-and-sound-under-linux
[01:27] <super> realtek audio
[01:27] <stanreg> super: Before Ubuntu? Two NTFS partitions; 1 for WinOS and 1 for storage. Ubuntu installer didn't show/ask for partition details.
[01:27] <xuboo> editing both  /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf and  /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[01:28] <xuboo> but that did not fix it on reboot
[01:28] <super> stanreg, in terminal type df -h to see if theres any NTFS left on that hard drive
[01:29] <stanreg> super: okies
[01:29] <xuboo> running AsRock 4CoreDual-SATA2 - the card listed on it is Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237A/VT8251 HDA Controller (rev 10)
[01:29] <stanreg> super: nope :(
[01:30] <stanreg> super: only /dev/sda1 (with the full hd size)
[01:30] <super> stanreg, this is ubuntu right?
[01:30] <super> alt+f2 type Disks
[01:30] <super> more way to verify if it is completely gone
[01:31] <stanreg> super: Weeeell.. about that.. it's an ubuntu-based distro.. peppermint.
[01:31] <xuboo> some posts on my motherboard/card say that the current/up to date kernel broke sound, and they had to revert back to 3.2 from 3.12 it was
[01:32] <xuboo> knowing that kernels are not easy to mess with, I tried to stay away from trying that
[01:32] <super> which kernel are you using xuboo
[01:32] <xuboo> I'm not sure how to check
[01:32] <super> i'm on 3.13 on ubuntu and on fedora i have 3.15
[01:32] <super> uname -r
[01:33] <xuboo> thank you
[01:33] <stanreg> super, Was hoping to get this old netbook running, so Peppermint seemed like the most lightweight ubuntu-based distro out there.. and no 'Disks' installed, gneh. Any other way I can look for that partition in deep?
[01:33] <xuboo> 3.13.0-32 generic
[01:33] <super> stanreg, what about gparted?
[01:34] <Geo> Bashing-om / usr13 , I found the old UUID referenced in the os_probe section of the grub cfg. Is there a command that will trim that UUID out for me, or do I have to do it by hand?
[01:34] <Beldar> stanreg, peppermint?
[01:35] <super> Beldar, hes running linuxmint version on his netbook
[01:35] <Beldar> stanreg, peppmint has their own support, we don't support it here.
[01:36] <Bashing-om> Geo: I am sure there is a way to do so - but to craft that up is above my skill set.
[01:38] <stanreg> super: My bad, 'disks' actually exists. Looks like I have 3 partitions. No more NTFS. Just a main linux partition, one extended partition, and one swap partition that I can see.
[01:38] <super> stanreg, sudo apt-get install gnome-disks
[01:38] <stanreg> super: do you think there are chances of recovery?
[01:38] <super> stanreg, that NTFS is gone
[01:39] <eeee> stanreg: use testdisk
[01:39] <eeee> you'll get it all back probably
[01:39] <super> anything important on that hard drive stanreg
[01:39] <stanreg> super: pictures :(
[01:39] <Bashing-om> Geo: Bear in mind ya want root (fdisk), UUID (blkid) to match what the system now sees for where 'root' is installed to tell grub where it's files are located.
[01:39] <xuboo> It seems that my sound card is supported under ALSA
[01:39] <eeee> !datarecovery | stanreg
[01:39] <super> best to store important files on a backup hard drives
[01:40] <Beldar> stanreg, super take this to a pm peppermint is not supported here.
[01:40] <Geo> I'm curious if update-grub works from a live cd
[01:40] <stanreg> super: Yeah, well I didn't know the ubuntu-based installer would f* up so bad :)
[01:40] <Geo> or do I need to chroot into the partition first, perhaps
[01:41] <eeee> stanreg: what's going on here, did you re-install and it wiped the partitions out?
[01:41] <Beldar> Geo, chroot, but you can access the install with supergrub most likely
[01:41] <super> Beldar, linuxmint and ubuntu both are partnership right?
[01:42] <stanreg> eeee: Installed an Ubuntu-based distro, Peppermint, with the "Replace Win 7" option -- turns out it cleared all of my partitions, not only the WinOS partition.
[01:42] <eeee> stanreg: sudo apt-get install testdisk
[01:42] <stanreg> oki
[01:43] <Psi-Jack> I wonder.. is aptitude still "not recommended" aka broken, on 14.04?
[01:43] <Beldar> Psi-Jack, I believe it is usable.
[01:43] <Psi-Jack> I know in 12.04 is was broken with multi-arch and could leave a system unstable or unusable.
[01:44] <Bashing-om> Geo: I ahve messed up my grub many times - I have varying levels of success installing grub grom the liveDVD and as well from the CHroot . Might be interesting to see what results at each  progressive attempt . TBH my best results are to boot up from grub, and once in the operting system purge/reinstall.
[01:45] <eeee> stanreg: once in testdisk select to search for intel partitions
[01:45] <stanreg> eeee: alright.
[01:45] <OerHeks> Psi-Jack, an updated 12.04 or 14.04 is fixed
[01:46] <OerHeks> !aptitude
[01:46] <Geo> Bashing-om: yeah, the problem is os_prober
[01:46] <Psi-Jack> i see. Cool.
[01:46] <Psi-Jack> OerHeks: Thanks for confirming that.
[01:46] <OerHeks> yw
[01:46] <Geo> everything else in grub was updated properly, but not the stuff is os_prober
[01:47] <Geo> *in
[01:47] <Daisyab__> hello everyone.  For some reason, I can't access my applications on dashboard anymore.  I tried http://askubuntu.com/questions/125843/dash-search-gives-no-result but still no change.  I use ubuntu 12.04.  Anyhelp will be appreciated.
[01:47] <eeee> Geo: did you run grub-mkconfig ?
[01:47] <Geo> update-grub
[01:48] <eeee> try grub-mkconfig , who knows
[01:48] <xuboo> no ideas with the audio issue?
[01:48] <xuboo> should I try to downgrade kernel as some people indicate?
[01:49] <coventry`> Given a 2D array A of shape (n, m) and a list of n column-ordinates L, is there a way to refer to the 1-array of those elements of A?  I was hoping I could do A[list(enumerate(L))], but that adds another list into the hierarchy.
[01:49] <laspahr> Okay, I'm back... what do I need to do now?
[01:50] <ForSpareParts> Is there a way to get VDPAU video acceleration using the fglrx drivers?
[01:50] <coventry`> Oops, wrong channel. :-)
[01:50] <stanreg> eeee: tried searching for deleted partitions, couldn't find any, gneh
[01:50] <eeee> laspahr: about the backup.tar.gz ?
[01:50] <Bashing-om> Geo: is 14.04 to be the only OS installed such that 30_os-prober can be turned off ? and will not take long to try each option see if you can then boot at each try.
[01:50] <eeee> stanreg: did you do a deep search ?
[01:51] <laspahr> eeee: si
[01:51] <stanreg> eeee: I only saw the quick search feature.. let me retry.
[01:51] <laspahr> eeee: I left off at the size of the backup..
[01:51] <eeee> laspahr: run df -h | grep /home
[01:52] <eeee> and gzip -l /mnt/....tar.gz    ( get the uncompressed size)
[01:52] <xuboo> some people suggest "some people with VIA VT8237/8251 southbridges have to use the pci=use_crs boot flag" to get sound working on modern kernels, anyone know how I would do that?
[01:53] <laspahr> already did the second one... the /home one says 262G 45G 205G 18% /home
[01:53] <eeee> ok so 45G is used
[01:53] <laspahr> uncompressed size is 1690631174
[01:53] <eeee> thats 45*1024*1024*1024 = .... bytes
[01:54] <stanreg> eeee: damn, looks like the deep search will take hours ;(
[01:54] <laspahr> huh..?
[01:54] <laspahr> ooooh... I'm not quite literate in computer math lol
[01:55] <Bashing-om> xuboo: see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 , for setting boot options.
[01:55] <stanreg> eeee: is there a linux app that can be used to look for/find raw jpeg files on a given partition?
[01:55] <eeee> laspahr: it's just converting GB to bytes ( 1 kb is 1024 bytes)
[01:55] <laspahr> eeee: so compare 45*1024*1024*1024 to 1690631174?
[01:55] <xuboo> thank you
[01:55] <laspahr> and hopefully it's the same?
[01:56] <eeee> yeah, if 169 is larger than you're good
[01:56] <eeee> or at least equal
[01:56] <laspahr> so >=
[01:56] <eeee> yeah
[01:57] <laspahr> shit /:
[01:57] <laspahr> 169 is 10 digits, the other is 11
[01:57] <eeee> stanreg: when you started testdisk did you select intel partition ?
[01:57] <laspahr> if I'm understanding correctly, that's bad
[01:57] <stanreg> eeee: yes
[01:58] <eeee> give the GPT a go
[01:58] <stanreg> eeee: then had a quick search.. it showed me two linux partitions; i selected the first one, and selected deep search.
[01:58] <eeee> when testdisk started up, what was selected?
[01:59] <super> my city sux! bank robbery 3 dead including the 1 innocent bank tailor
[01:59] <eeee> laspahr: yeah, i think so
[02:00] <laspahr> eeee: it's 46627750906B bigger
[02:00] <laspahr> abt 43.5GB smaller
[02:01] <stanreg> eeee: ouh, looks like it found 3 "HPFS - NTFS" partitions so far.
[02:01] <j80063r> I tried installing linux to an ecrypted partition on a 64 GB micro sd card but it wouldn't boot.  Since then I think I forgot the password and can't mount it or delete partitions with any of about 10 popular methods.  Is there any hope for this sd card or should I seek a replacement?
[02:02] <eeee> stanreg: ok you can cancel it now
[02:02] <eeee> press enter
[02:02] <xuboo> Bashing-om, are you still there?
[02:02] <Bashing-om> xuboo: Go .
[02:02] <eeee> you can list the files of the partitions, and copy them
[02:02] <xuboo> does this look right?
[02:02] <xuboo> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="splash quiet pci=use_crs"
[02:03] <xuboo> pci=use_crs is the boot flag one post suggests
[02:03] <stanreg> eeee: gotcha. looks like it crashed though. will run it again. oh, do you think there's a guied version of this?
[02:03] <laspahr> eeee: so what do I do now? /:
[02:03] <xuboo> i think it's correct but it's nice having confirmation
[02:03] <eeee> laspahr: try to rm the .tar.gz and tar czvf again
[02:04] <laspahr> so apt-get remove /mnt/UbuntuBackup/home-backup.tar.gz ?
[02:04] <eeee> stanreg: it's pretty straightforward, once the partition shows up in the deep search press enter, then you can press a keyboard shortcut to view the files in it, and you can copy them to whereever
[02:05] <xuboo> well
[02:05] <xuboo> going to reboot
[02:05] <xuboo> wish me luck :)
[02:05] <Bashing-om> xuboo: Yeah, looks good ( I did look up what you posted originally) ..but I have no idea as to it's effectiveness.
[02:05] <xuboo> thank you
[02:05] <xuboo> if I'm never back, i thank you for help :)
[02:06] <laspahr> eeee: how do I remove it? I tried apt-get remove but it didn't do it
[02:06] <eeee> stanreg: you could restore the whole partition, but it's tricky, you have to pay attention to have all the partitions that you want there
[02:06] <j80063r> did anyone read my question?
[02:06] <stanreg> eeee: could i restore the partition to, say, an ext hdd?
[02:06] <eeee> yeah i think you could
[02:08] <eeee> laspahr: rm /mnt/......tar.gz
[02:08] <Beldar> j80063r, Card is fine getting into the OS is questionable.
[02:08] <laspahr> eeee: ah thanks..
[02:09] <laspahr> then tar -czvf /mnt/...... /home ?
[02:09] <eeee> yup
[02:09] <Beldar> j80063r, Since it never booted wipe it and do what you want.
[02:09] <laspahr> awesome
[02:09] <laspahr> here we go again.... lol
[02:09] <eeee> hehe
[02:10] <yeticry> hehe
[02:10] <Jeffrey_f> j80063r: wipe the card and reinstall.......there will be an option to encrypt the disk
[02:14] <laspahr> hmmm.. would it speed up my desktop if I installed Ubuntu on an HP desktop with Intel Pentium? has WinXP on it right now /:
[02:14] <laspahr> It'd have to be a dual boot, since it's not mine..
[02:15] <super> laspahr, put ubuntu lxde 14.04 if thats a pentium machine
[02:15] <laspahr> lxde?
[02:15] <super> laspahr, does it have enough system memory
[02:15] <super> at least 1gb
[02:16] <ObrienDave> laspahr, Lubuntu
[02:16] <stanreg> eeee: do you think scounge-ntfs could be worth a shot?
[02:16] <laspahr> lets see... computer is Genuine Intel(R) CPU 2140 @1.6GHz 1.6GHz, 0.99 GB of RAM
[02:17] <laspahr> that's why its so dang slow
[02:17] <stanreg> eeee: scrounge-ntfs*
[02:17] <laspahr> my phone has more RAM
[02:17] <eeee> stanreg: never tried it
[02:17] <stanreg> oki
[02:17] <super> laspahr, use Lubuntu on that system
[02:18] <wolfy1339> hi how do i fix what i posted here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/499309/compiled-programs-dont-have-icons-in-launcher
[02:18] <laspahr> it might not even be worth it.. I mean maybe I'll buy an extra USB Drive and install it on there, so I can have all my files on it w/o having to install it on the computer.
[02:18] <laspahr> still not going to boost my RAM tho
[02:18] <laspahr> no wonder it's so slow I don't use it anymore.. still a good computer tho, I like HP
[02:19] <j80063r> sorry got disconnected
[02:19] <Beldar> wolfy1339, Posted 3 min ago, have you no patience?
[02:19] <j80063r> Beldar and Jeffrey_f - I have not found a way to delete partitions on the device, I tried gparted, dd, and many other methods, some seem to function but the partitions are still there, others say write protected
[02:19] <Beldar> j80063r, Is there not a switch on it to protect it?
[02:20] <j80063r> no, micro sd's don't have the switch and I tried in in an adaptor with a switch but no luck there
[02:20] <Beldar> look on the card
[02:20] <Beldar> j80063r, Where sis you get this card? Is it a no name?
[02:21] <Beldar> did*
[02:21] <j80063r> Its an AData brand class 10 brand new
[02:21] <laspahr> dang.. still gave me the gzip: stdout: File too large error
[02:22] <laspahr> is it too big to compress?
[02:22] <j80063r> it worked fine until I installed linux to an encrypted partition, now it shows the partitions and testdisk found some
[02:22] <laspahr> or too big to put on the USB Drive?
[02:22] <Beldar> j80063r, Can you return it?
[02:23] <super> j80063r, sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX conv=notrunc,noerror,sync
[02:23] <sydney> I recently installed ubuntu 14.04 alongside my 12.04 install.A week ago i installed some updates in my 12.04 install,and now the grub relies on my 12.04 partion and not my 14.04 partion,so i cannot delete my 12.04 os. :-/ Any assistance on how to set my 14.04 one back to defult?
[02:24] <j80063r> haven't tried yet but may try, I thought I'd exhaust all options first.  I have a utility to crack encrypted partitions, but it can't brute force and I had a strong password anyway
[02:25] <j80063r> I'd really like to wipe it but dd can't do it
[02:25] <Beldar> sydney, Boot to 14.04 and run sudo grub-install /dev/sdX  the X is the HD than run a sudo update-grub
[02:25] <laspahr> eeee: what now..?
[02:25] <eeee> i'm searching online
[02:25] <Bashing-om> sydney: From the 12.04 grub choose to boot the14.04 system. Once booted into 14.04; terminal command -> sudo update-grub <- will make 14.04 the master.
[02:26] <Beldar> j80063r, The encryption is not your issue.
[02:26] <sydney> Bashing-om: I have tried that :-/
[02:26] <Jeffrey_f> j80063r: have you tried Boot and Nuke?   http://www.dban.org/
[02:26] <j80063r> are you sure, that's when the issue ocurred
[02:26] <eeee> laspahr: type gzip -v
[02:26] <j80063r> not yet, good suggestion, will try
[02:26] <eeee> wait
[02:26] <Bashing-om> sydney: Then as Beldar advises .. reinstall grub from the 14.04 install.
[02:27] <Beldar> j80063r, Anything that can be wiped encyption is not an issue
[02:27] <sydney> Beldar: Can I do that from the 12.04 install? sd6 i believe?
[02:28] <Beldar> sydney, No has to be 14.04. Can you boot 14.04?
[02:28] <Geo> to uninstall grub from a disk, dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=446 count=1  is the best way to do that? or is there another recommended option?
[02:28] <j80063r> going to try boot and nuke now
[02:28] <sydney> I can,but my mom has her pasword on it :P
[02:28] <laspahr> eeee: type gzip -v or no..?
[02:28] <eeee> no, dont
[02:28] <laspahr> okie dokie
[02:29] <Beldar> sydney, Which OS is at the top of the grub menu?
[02:29] <Jeffrey_f> j80063r: MAKE ABSOLUTELY SURE that you choose the correct disk.....Just sayin
[02:29] <sydney> Beldar: I have used grub customizer to change it to ubuntu 14.04
[02:29] <sydney> Beldar: but otherwise it would be 12.04
[02:29] <Beldar> sydney, Ah, so 1`2.04 has had the grub control always?
[02:29] <Beldar> 12.04*
[02:30] <sydney> Beldar: seems to
[02:30] <Beldar> sydney, To have 14.04 control the boot you need to get in is all.
[02:31] <eeee> laspahr: what file appears before the error ?
[02:31] <sydney> Beldar: What do you mean?
[02:31] <Beldar> sydney, 12.04 controls the boot now it's grub is in the mbr.
[02:32] <Neldogz> is there a place on ubuntu where you can shutdown a service during a system shutdown?
[02:32] <sydney> Beldar: Not sure. :-s
[02:32] <Beldar> sydney, not sure what?
[02:32] <sydney> Beldar: I have tried using boot repair also
[02:32] <laspahr> it's /home/lancespahr/.cache/spotify/Storage/27/27........................................file
[02:32] <laspahr> eeee:
[02:33] <Beldar> sydney, Why can't your mom boot 14.04?
[02:33] <ObrienDave> sydney, have you tried grub-customizer?
[02:33] <laspahr> I'm just too lazy to type every alphanumeric character
[02:33] <sydney> Beldar: She can!! the 14.04 install works fine,i just would like to have it,not the 12.04s grub as defult. ;)
[02:34] <sydney> ObrienDave: yes ;)
[02:34] <cornell> I want to get a list of packages, applications, installed on my machine.  I'm going to reinstall the distro, and want a list of what's here now, notably, what I've added.
[02:34] <Beldar> sydney, Than have her boot 14.04 and run the command I gave you.
[02:34] <cornell> How can I do that?
[02:34] <ObrienDave> sydney, oops, read up, saw that you tried, my apologies
[02:35] <sydney> Beldar: isnt it sudo grub-install /dev/'sda6'?
[02:35] <eeee> laspahr: type ls -lh /mnt......that...files...name
[02:35] <Beldar> sydney, No the mbr is sda
[02:35] <sydney> Beldar: or how would that work with sda6?
[02:35] <viscera> Does anyone run Unity on Intel Series 4 graphics?
[02:35] <viscera> If so, any glitches/problems?
[02:36] <Beldar> sydney, This is not rocket science I have told you what to do.
[02:36] <eeee> laspahr: i mean /home/...that...files...name
[02:36] <laspahr> just what I was about to ask
[02:36] <laspahr> okie dokie
[02:36] <sydney> Beldar: oh, X is the hd ;)
[02:36] <veebull> any recommendations for a good newsreader (usenet, not rss feeds)?  Mostly happy with Thunderbird which I already use for mail, but no scoring / kill-files that I can find.  Pan has those, but has other issues.  Ideas?
[02:37] <sydney> Beldar: so I run it the exact same way you told me?
[02:37] <Beldar> sydney, Yes and it has to be run from the OS you want to have grub in the mbr in your case 14.04.
[02:37] <sydney> Beldar: ok,Thanks!! :D
[02:37] <sydney> be
[02:37] <Bashing-om> cornell: From old install dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages ; From New install sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages , sudo apt-get -y update , udo apt-get dselect-upgrade .
[02:38] <Beldar> sydney, Boot to 14.04 and run sudo grub-install /dev/sda  than run a sudo update-grub
[02:38] <eeee> laspahr: how big is the file ?
[02:38] <laspahr> okay, it says -rw-rw-r-- 1 lancespahr lancespahr 4.0M Jul 13 21:58 then the file name again
[02:38] <laspahr> I'm guessing 4M
[02:38] <eeee> weird
[02:39] <Geo> to uninstall grub from a disk, dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=446 count=1  is the best way to do that? or is there another recommended option?
[02:39] <eeee> supposedly this error happens if the file is too large
[02:39] <laspahr> .... /:
[02:39] <laspahr> if so then it's totally wimping out
[02:39] <Beldar> Geo, Why are you wiping the mbr?
[02:39] <eeee> i was going to tell you to see if your ext hd is fat32 formatted
[02:39] <sydney> Beldar: ok,your confusing me :P this' sudo grub-install /dev/sda ' or this? 'sudo grub-install /dev/sdX'?
[02:39] <laspahr> ummm.. .how would I check that real quick?
[02:40] <Beldar> sydney, I said the X stands for the actual HD which seems to be sda so use sda
[02:40] <eeee> cuz it cant handle bigger than close to 4gb files
[02:40] <Geo> ...to uninstall grub from that disk
[02:40] <Beldar> Geo, What disc?
[02:40] <eeee> laspahr: type lsblk | grep /mnt , get the /dev/sdxY next to it
[02:41] <sydney> Beldar: I think your correct ;)
[02:41] <sydney> Beldar: http://s3.postimg.org/h9wrwpvhf/Screenshot_from_2014_07_17_22_40_30.png
[02:41] <laspahr> sdb2 8:18 0 298G 0 part /mnt
[02:41] <Bashing-om> Geo: Keep in mind tht  only removes the stage one boot code. there remains 2 other stages.
[02:42] <eeee> laspahr: type parted -l and check the format of the partition
[02:42] <laspahr> yup, its fat32
[02:43] <eeee> yeah i think the error is cause the file it's trying to copy is bigger than 4gb
[02:43] <laspahr> w/ msftdata flag (if that means anything)
[02:43] <eeee> is the ext hdd empty ? can you reformat it to ntfs ?
[02:43] <laspahr> so can I format it from the shell?
[02:43] <eeee> yeah sure
[02:43] <Beldar> Geo, preface your commnets or questions to others with their nick keeps things in order here. ;)
[02:43] <laspahr> as far as I know, it's empty...
[02:43] <laspahr> how can I check? /:
[02:43] <super> .ckear
[02:44] <laspahr> sorry I'll figure it out eventually....
[02:44] <eeee> df /dev/sdb..
[02:44] <eeee> /dev/sdbxY
[02:44] <Beldar> Bashing-om, I thought Geo had a UEFI?
[02:44] <laspahr> sdb2?
[02:44] <cornell> Thanks Bashing-om.  But won't the set-selections cause some packages from the old distro to be added to the new distro... i.e. not only would I have the packages I've added, but also packages that came with the old distro to the new one?
[02:44] <eeee> yeah
[02:45] <laspahr> yeah it says used 4
[02:45] <laspahr> 4K looks like
[02:45] <sydney> Beldar: ifi log in as root,it it safe to run that command? I think i have the root pasword ;)
[02:45] <laspahr> unless it's in B
[02:45] <eeee> sorry
[02:45] <eeee> wait a sec
[02:46] <laspahr> it looks empty... unless it's not showing up right
[02:46] <Beldar> sydney, There is no root password in ubuntu unless one has been made.
[02:46] <Bashing-om> cornell: That will get ya the packages installed onto the old system ( to a text file) , and in the install read that text file, and then update/upgrade the new system.
[02:47] <eeee> laspahr: does it say mounted on /mnt ?
[02:47] <sydney> Beldar: i think i accedently made one. ;)
[02:47] <laspahr> nope
[02:47] <eeee> laspahr: type df -h /dev/sdb2
[02:47] <laspahr> says mounted on /dev
[02:47] <ObrienDave> sydney, there is no root password https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[02:47] <eeee> ok that's not it then
[02:48] <laspahr> it's used 4K
[02:48] <cornell> Right Bashing-om, but won't it also include packages that the old distro used and the new distro doesn't need.
[02:48] <Beldar> sydney, Why do you not have the regular password?
[02:48] <laspahr> that's really strange...
[02:48] <sydney> I think i will just wait for my mom,i dont want to bust anything.
[02:48] <Bashing-om> Beldar: As to Geo. I had assertained earlier that he has msdos (MBR) partitioning. so he did affirm.
[02:48] <Beldar> GOOD IDEA
[02:48] <laspahr> bc sdb2 is definitely the ext HDD
[02:49] <Beldar> Bashing-om, I figured you had, I could not get them to run the bootscript yesterday.
[02:49] <sydney> Beldar: I got into the rescue mode,to change my password once,and i didnt type in my username,and now whenever i do that again,it asks for the root pasword
[02:49] <laspahr> however if I type lsblk | grep /mnt it shows sdb2 mounted on /mnt?
[02:50] <Bashing-om> Beldar: ( some peoples children) : ).
[02:50] <eeee> laspahr: type df -h
[02:51] <laspahr> ok?
[02:51] <Beldar> sydney, I have no idea what you have done, and honestly with about 20 posts to confirm just a grub to the mbr command I'm hesitant to say more. ;)(
[02:51] <laspahr> eeee: and?
[02:51] <eeee> laspahr: is sdb2 there ?
[02:51] <laspahr> eeee: nein
[02:51] <sydney> Beldar:  OK :D
[02:52] <laspahr> wait yes I think... maybe
[02:52] <laspahr> yes it is
[02:52] <sydney> Beldar: if i log in as root though,would it work,or is it dangerous?
[02:52] <eeee> ok
[02:52] <eeee> is it mounted on /mnt ?
[02:52] <Bashing-om> cornell: Yeah .. could be ( ya can always edit that text file ) see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261366 .
[02:52] <laspahr> no
[02:53] <laspahr> mounted on /dev
[02:53] <eeee> ok this is weird
[02:53] <Beldar> sydney, Please just do it the proper way and find how to remove the root password if there is one.
[02:53] <laspahr> eeee: do I need to remount it..?
[02:54] <sydney> Beldar: ok,thanks for the know-how. :)
[02:54] <j80063r> DBAN finished with non-fatal errors.  Check the log for more information.  * Error /dev/sdc (process crash) * Error /dev/sdb (process crash)* Error /dev/sda (process crash)
[02:54] <azman705> testing chat hello
[02:54] <azman705> yall getting this
[02:54] <sydney> azman705: yes
[02:54] <azman705> thx
[02:55] <eeee> laspahr: im thinking maybe you made a typo and mounted it to /dev ?
[02:55] <azman705> thought it was broken
[02:55] <laspahr>  /: maybe
[02:55] <laspahr> now.. mount instructions..?
[02:55] <eeee> umount /dev/sdb2
[02:56] <laspahr> ah.. but no typo here...
[02:56] <sydney> Beldar: maybei should just leave it the way it is? :P Im fine with it,except that i have to run sudo update-grub in 12.04 every time i get a kernel update. :-/
[02:56] <laspahr> 'mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt/
[02:58] <j80063r> any suggestions for this Boot an Nuke error above?
[02:59] <eeee> laspahr: no idea
[02:59] <cornell> Thanks Bashing-om
[02:59] <eeee> laspahr: did you umount ?
[02:59] <laspahr> I don't think so.. .I can try to remount
[02:59] <eeee> laspahr: you can also try df /mnt
[02:59] <unreal-dude> great, ubuntu powered down while upgrading...
[02:59] <Bashing-om> cornell: Open source -> all for 1 and one for all : D
[02:59] <laspahr> filesystem - Use 2% mounted on /mnt
[03:00] <laspahr> I skipped all the numbers...
[03:00] <eeee> does it say /dev/sdb2 ?
[03:00] <laspahr> nope
[03:00] <eeee> but lsblk says it's mounted
[03:00] <eeee> i dont know
[03:00] <laspahr> yes
[03:01] <eeee> try mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt
[03:01] <laspahr> I'm just as confused as you....
[03:01] <laspahr> mount: /dev/sdb2 already mounted or /mnt busy
[03:02] <eeee> try to unmount ?
[03:02] <j80063r> beldar:  did you see the error message above?
[03:03] <j80063r> trying again with a different method, seems to be working 1.4%
[03:05] <laspahr> unmount /dev/sdb2 /mnt ?
[03:06] <eeee> laspahr: umount /dev/sdb2
[03:06] <laspahr> umount: /dev/sdb2: not mounted
[03:06] <laspahr> ._.
[03:07] <eeee> no idea
[03:07] <eeee> :D
[03:07] <eeee> do you have a GUI ?
[03:09] <laspahr> I can..
[03:09] <laspahr> I'd have to exit this tho
[03:09] <laspahr> It'd be a live usb
[03:10] <eeee> nevermind
[03:11] <eeee> type lsblk one more time
[03:13] <cornell> Thanks again...    TTFN
[03:15] <Marfi> 0.o 15 seconds and it's quiet...?
[03:15] <Marfi> That's now how #ubuntu used to be
[03:16] <laspahr> Ugh alright, my computer just locked up
[03:16] <laspahr> The desktop
[03:16] <eeee> wb
[03:17] <laspahr> So can you repeat whatever you've said since never mind?
[03:17] <eeee> type lsblk one more time
[03:17] <laspahr> Okay?
[03:17] <eeee> is /dev/sdb2 there ?
[03:18] <laspahr> Sdb2 is mounted to /mnt
[03:18] <cagri> hi, can anyone tell me how you use the extension manager in libreoffice?
[03:18] <eeee> laspahr: try restarting if you can
[03:19] <laspahr> Emergency sync then alt sysrq r?
[03:19] <eeee> shutdown -r now
[03:19] <laspahr> Okay
[03:21] <laspahr> Go to recovery again?
[03:21] <eeee> i guess
[03:22] <laspahr> Okay...
[03:22] <laspahr> Root?
[03:22] <eeee> no need really
[03:23] <laspahr> So what do i select?
[03:23] <eeee> lsblk again
[03:23] <eeee> see whats there
[03:23] <laspahr> I'm on recovery menu
[03:24] <eeee> boot into it again
[03:24] <laspahr> Okay
[03:25] <laspahr> Wait boot into what?
[03:25] <eeee> lol
[03:26] <laspahr> I'm on root shell right now from recovery menu
[03:26] <eeee> get back to where you were before
[03:26] <eeee> oh ok
[03:26] <eeee> so you're back to where you were?
[03:26] <laspahr> Yeah
[03:26] <eeee> ok cool
[03:27] <laspahr> So what now...?
[03:28] <eeee> lsblk
[03:28] <eeee> and see if /dev/sdb2 is there and whatnot
[03:28] <laspahr> It is there
[03:28] <eeee> mounted on anything ?
[03:29] <laspahr> Nope
[03:29] <laspahr> Only mount is sda6 on root
[03:29] <eeee> ok great
[03:29] <eeee> type sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt
[03:29] <laspahr> Sudo?
[03:29] <eeee> and sudo mount /dev/sda7 /home
[03:30] <eeee> yes, you didn't login as root, right ?
[03:30] <laspahr> That's my only option
[03:31] <laspahr> So use sudo or no?
[03:32] <eeee> no dont sudo then
[03:32] <laspahr> Okay mounted both w/o sudo, and it appears to work
[03:33] <eeee> ok
[03:33] <eeee> try df -h /dev/sdb2
[03:33] <laspahr> .-.
[03:34] <laspahr> It says mounted on /dev
[03:34] <eeee> df -h
[03:34] <eeee> ?
[03:35] <eeee> is it there?
[03:35] <laspahr> I think, but it's under udev and it's mounted to /deb
[03:36] <laspahr>  /dev*
[03:36] <eeee> type df -h
[03:36] <eeee> alone
[03:37] <laspahr> already did, and it says udev is mounted to /dev
[03:37] <laspahr> I'm guessing udev is inside sdb2
[03:37] <eeee> you should get a list when you type df -h
[03:37] <laspahr> I do
[03:37] <eeee> /dev/sda6 and /dev/sda7 should be there too
[03:38] <laspahr> yup, both are there
[03:38] <eeee> /dev/sdb2 isnt ?
[03:38] <laspahr> no
[03:38] <laspahr> just udev
[03:38] <laspahr> bc udev shows up when I type 'df -h /dev/sdb2'
[03:39] <eeee> that's cuz df thinks /dev/sdb2 isnt mounted
[03:39] <eeee> i get the same here if i do that and my ext hdd isnt mounted
[03:39] <laspahr> soooo.... /:
[03:40] <Marfi> What's the problem, laspahr ?
[03:41] <laspahr> Marfi: trying to do a backup of /home/$USER to an EXT HDD
[03:41] <laspahr> USB
[03:42] <Marfi> laspahr: Just trying to copy ~/ ?
[03:42] <eeee> Marfi: the ext HDD is fat32, and gzip is saying the file is too large, so if the ext hdd is empty we want to make it ntfs
[03:42] <laspahr> what he said lol^
[03:42] <Marfi> eeee: Fat32 is limited to 4 gb for a single file, so if the gunzip is larger than that...it will fail
[03:43] <eeee> Marfi: yeah so we want to partition and format as ntfs
[03:43] <eeee> (if it's empty)
[03:43] <laspahr> it's empty I think
[03:43] <Marfi> laspahr: Tried gparted?
[03:43] <laspahr> I just formatted it not too long ago I thought
[03:43] <laspahr> I'm on shell
[03:43] <laspahr> not gui
[03:43] <Marfi> sudo apt-get install gparted && sudo gparted
[03:44] <Marfi>  /thread. :)
[03:44] <eeee> Marfi: he is mounting it, but it doesn't show up in df,
[03:44] <Marfi> laspahr: With gparted, that will let you partition it to NTFS-3g, then you'll be able to run the backup again
[03:44] <eeee> but it shows up in lsblk
[03:44] <eeee> how so?
[03:44] <laspahr> I'm in Recovery Root Shell only.. no GUI right now, unless I reboot and use Live USB
[03:44] <eeee> (in shows up in lsblk as mounted)
[03:45] <eeee> *it
[03:45] <laspahr> sdb2 is mounted to /mnt on lsblk
[03:46] <Marfi> laspahr: An /mnt/lsblk is writable?
[03:47] <laspahr> no, if I use lsblk it shows sdb2 mounted on /mnt
[03:47] <Marfi> Kk, and you're trying to mount it for writing?
[03:48] <laspahr> mount it so I can format it I thought..
[03:48] <laspahr> right eeee?
[03:48] <eeee> well no we mounted it to backup
[03:48] <eeee> then we wanted to check if it was empty before making it ntfs
[03:48] <Marfi> eeee: And mounted as NTFS or fat32?
[03:48] <laspahr> it's fat32 right now
[03:48] <eeee> you don't need to mount it to partition and format
[03:49] <laspahr> oh
[03:49] <eeee> if you're sure it's empty
[03:49] <eeee> then you can use fdisk to partition it as ntfs
[03:49] <Marfi> laspahr: What eeee said. Are you 120% sure it's empty?
[03:49] <laspahr> How can I double check it?
[03:49] <eeee> then mkfs.ntfs /dev/sdb2 , to format it as ntfs
[03:49] <eeee> laspahr: df
[03:50] <eeee> Marfi: is there another way ?
[03:50] <laspahr> but df doesn't show sdb2
[03:51] <laspahr> oh well, there can't be anything on there too important
[03:51] <eeee> im searching
[03:51] <eeee> you could do ls -a /mnt
[03:52] <eeee> if it's mounted, then any files should show up i guess
[03:52] <eeee> (that's if it's mounted though...)
[03:52] <eeee> still searching online
[03:52] <eeee> if there's something like df
[03:52] <laspahr> it only shows .Trash-1000 and UbuntuBackup
[03:52] <laspahr> I'll just format it
[03:53] <laspahr> that ok?
[03:53] <Marfi> eeee: laspahr , if you're looking to format the external drive, it's probably mounted to sd*
[03:53] <eeee> type mount alone
[03:53] <Marfi> laspahr: Do an ls /dev/sd*. That will help us determine where Ubuntu sees it. :)
[03:54] <laspahr> It's on sdb2
[03:54] <eeee> laspahr:  type mount | grep /dev/sdb2
[03:54] <Marfi> laspahr: mount too. That shows what is mounted
[03:54] <Marfi> What eeee said. :)
[03:54] <laspahr> okay, it just showed a new line after that
[03:54] <eeee> no /dev/sdb2 on /mnt ?
[03:55] <Marfi> eeee: Sounds like laspahr hasn't mounted the new partitition
[03:55] <laspahr> I just typed mount | grep /dev/sdb2
[03:55] <Marfi> laspahr: And it's just fat32, right?
[03:55] <sloppyf> Hey guys. Is there a way I can auto-connect and auto-reconnect to my vpn connection?
[03:55] <laspahr> Marfi: afaik
[03:55] <Marfi> laspahr: Fdisk is the command line way to partition a drive if you can't do GUI: http://comtech247.net/2012/07/04/how-to-format-a-hard-drive-on-ubuntu-12-04-using-fdisk/
[03:56] <Marfi> laspahr: Me personally, going the GUI route with gparted + live disk gives less chance of breaking things
[03:56] <laspahr> I mean I'm already on the shell..
[03:57] <Marfi> laspahr: That's what I thought. :) Check out http://comtech247.net/2012/07/04/how-to-format-a-hard-drive-on-ubuntu-12-04-using-fdisk/ then. That will walk you through using fdisk to partition your USB drive to ntfs
[03:57] <Marfi> * NTFS-3g
[03:57] <laspahr> okay, well it no longer shows sdb2 :(
[03:58] <eeee> laspahr: parted -l
[03:58] <eeee> doesn't show /dev/sdb2 ?
[03:58] <laspahr> shows sdb2 now
[03:58] <laspahr> just not with fdisk -l
[03:59] <Marfi> laspahr: So if it's not showing up in fdisk -l, does it show up as free space?
[03:59] <laspahr> with fdisk -l it shows sdb1 but not sdb2
[04:00] <LostOnMac> Hello ubuntu!!
[04:00] <Marfi> laspahr: What's on sdb1?
[04:01] <Marfi> sup LostOnMac ?
[04:01] <LostOnMac> Not too much, enjoying my evening here in cali
[04:01] <LostOnMac> hbu
[04:01] <laspahr> Marfi: it's like the Windows reserved Partition or something
[04:01] <Marfi> LostOnMac: rum here. :)
[04:01] <laspahr> idk
[04:01] <Marfi> laspahr: That makes sense. Is it 100 megs or so?
[04:02] <laspahr> something like that
[04:02] <laspahr> not very big
[04:02] <eeee> laspahr: try cgdisk /dev/sdb
[04:02] <prem> hi all
[04:02] <laspahr> woah 0_o
[04:02] <laspahr> shows sdb2 on here
[04:02] <LostOnMac> does anyone have experience with installing ubuntu on Macbook using usb?? i've been lost for the past 2 hours
[04:02] <prem> how can i capture the http / https traffic in my machine ,. without installtin any proxy servers
[04:03] <laspahr> Marfi: btw the Sdb1 is 128MB
[04:03] <prem> mine is a bit old machine which cannot sustain squid / tiny proxy even
[04:03] <Marfi> prem: Wireshark. If you want to MiTM the SSL, burpsuite
[04:03] <laspahr> eeee: I'm on cgdisk btw
[04:03] <prem> Marfi, can wireshark run in backend and give me in log files?
[04:04] <Marfi> laspahr: 128 MB or 128GB?
[04:04] <laspahr> MB
[04:04] <Marfi> prem: If you're looking to do that, go with tshark
[04:04] <laspahr> 'MiB
[04:04] <laspahr> same thing
[04:04] <prem> i dont want the gui to run and this am going to put in a school ., with low end machines and monitor the students
[04:04] <Marfi> laspahr: wow, that's an itty bitty USB drive. If there's nothing on the drive and you have partitioned, sdb1 may be the partition you're looking for, not sdb2
[04:05] <laspahr> eeee: what do I do?
[04:05] <prem> Marfi, will tshark work for all traffics , http / https /ftp ?
[04:05] <laspahr> Marfi: no, the sdb2 is 297.9GB
[04:05] <eeee> delete the fat32 partition
[04:05] <eeee> laspahr: then make a new partition
[04:05] <eeee> when it asks for the hex code
[04:05] <eeee> enter 0700
[04:05] <laspahr> First sector?
[04:05] <Marfi> prem: tshark will capture all traffic. You'll be able to view the non-encrypted traffic (http / ftp) but to do the https, you'll need something to break the SSL such as burpsuite
[04:06] <eeee> laspahr: press enter
[04:06] <laspahr> Size in sectors
[04:06] <eeee> i think enter maxes it out
[04:06] <eeee> you can type whatever you want
[04:06] <eeee> in MB too
[04:06] <eeee> as in 290M
[04:06] <laspahr> hex code?
[04:06] <eeee> type L
[04:06] <eeee> and then check the code for MSDATA
[04:07] <eeee> MS basic data
[04:07] <laspahr> 0700
[04:07] <eeee> ok use that
[04:07] <babu> in my system, when I gave date, it shows EST timezone.. but when I srun any java code, the system console logs is shown in UTC timezone
[04:07] <babu> am I missing anything?
[04:07] <babu> anyone pls reply
[04:07] <prem> Marfi, but probelm is none of these process should consume moer cpu., because our machines are already lower end machines., where i cant risk of running a heavy process in the backend
[04:07] <babu> join #java
[04:08] <babu> #java
[04:08] <prem> these wont disturb the networks peed ., right
[04:08] <ObrienDave> babu, /join #java
[04:08] <laspahr> Name it whatever?
[04:08] <eeee> laspahr: yeah
[04:09] <eeee> write to disk
[04:09] <eeee> it might ask you to reboot
[04:09] <babu> anyone knows ans on my date qn?
[04:10] <eeee> i dont think so though
[04:10] <laspahr> eeee: no reboot, but there's 3.0KiB free space
[04:10] <laspahr> delete free space?
[04:10] <Robert__> hello
[04:10] <catalase> ok how do i check the name of my MySQl database
[04:11] <laspahr> oh wait I can't heh..
[04:11] <Robert__> can anyone see this?
[04:11] <Robert__> test 123
[04:11] <Robert__> test
[04:11] <laspahr> si
[04:11] <catalase> and how do i know the username of my MYSQL database
[04:11] <Robert__> oh whoops, sorry
[04:11] <catalase> i did sudo apt-get install mysql-server php5-mysql
[04:11] <Robert__> can someone tell me how to upgrade openssl?
[04:11] <catalase> and a few other commands
[04:11] <Robert__> on ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[04:11] <catalase> such as sudo mysql_install_db
[04:12] <laspahr> eeee: now what? I've written to the disk twice I think, cuz I didn't think it worked
[04:12] <eeee> quit
[04:12] <catalase> what is the name of the default database
[04:12] <catalase> for mysql
[04:12] <Robert__> does ubuntu 12.04 LTS have a solution for heartbleed?
[04:12] <laspahr> eeee: and then?
[04:13] <ObrienDave> Robert__, if you keep your updates current, it's been fixed
[04:13] <Robert__> ObrienDave, I'm still using 1.0.1
[04:13] <Robert__> despite having run dist-upgrade
[04:13] <eeee> laspahr: type parted -l , and make sure everything is ok, it's there and it's /dev/sdb2 or whatever, check the size and /dev/sdbxY designation
[04:13] <ObrienDave> !info openssl
[04:14] <Robert__> ObrienDave, OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012
[04:14] <laspahr> ugh, eeee sdb2 still shows up as fat32
[04:15] <Robert__> ObrienDave, yet when I try to upgrade openssl it says "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:15] <Robert__> "
[04:15] <ObrienDave> looking
[04:15] <hwut> hi
[04:15] <hwut> hi all
[04:15] <eeee> laspahr: i dont know :D
[04:15] <eeee> laspahr: if you want, try mkntfs /dev/sdb2 for the heck of it
[04:15] <eeee> sorry mk.ntfs
[04:15] <laspahr> okay.. heh
[04:16] <eeee> then try parted -l again
[04:16] <laspahr> you were right the first time btw
[04:17] <super> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:numix/ppa
[04:17] <super> sudo apt-get update
[04:17] <super> sudo apt-get install numix*
[04:17] <laspahr> *yawn* this is going to take a while...
[04:17] <super> sudo apt-get install unity-tweak-tool
[04:17] <eeee> laspahr: about what?
[04:17] <laspahr> mkntfs
[04:17] <laspahr> no period
[04:17] <super> mkfs.ntfs
[04:18] <eeee> yeah mkfs.ntfs
[04:18] <laspahr> I just used mkntfs 0_o
[04:18] <eeee> is mkntfs the same
[04:18] <laspahr> whoops
[04:18] <eeee> lol sorry the fs in ntfs threw me off, its 7am here too
[04:18] <eeee> :D
[04:18] <eeee> sorry :S
[04:18] <laspahr> haha it's 12:18AM here
[04:18] <laspahr> so cancel?
[04:18] <babu> in my system, when I gave date command, it shows EST timezone.. but when I run any java code, the system console logs is shown in UTC timezone
[04:19] <babu> any ans pls
[04:19] <eeee> laspahr: seems to be the same command
[04:19] <eeee> makes a ntfs file system on a partition
[04:19] <laspahr> okay.. so I won't cancel it haha
[04:19] <tortib> Hello everyone!
[04:19] <tortib> When you set a group quota, is the quota set specifically for each user within that group?  Or as a whole group and each user within that group shares the quota with other users in the same group?  (I hope I explained that right).
[04:19] <laspahr> it's still on 2% .-.
[04:19] <laspahr> soooo slloooooowwwww...
[04:19] <eeee> weird though
[04:19] <eeee> try to cancel
[04:20] <eeee> maybe it doesn't use a quick format
[04:20] <laspahr> okay, done
[04:20] <Robert__> please somehow help, our server is affected by heartbleed and ubuntu doesn't seem to want to upgrade
[04:20] <Robert__> I don't know what to do
[04:20] <super> check out numix!
[04:20] <eeee> try mkfs.ntfs /dev/sdb2
[04:20] <laspahr> now use mkfs.ntfs?
[04:20] <laspahr> haha
[04:20] <eeee> wait a sec
[04:20] <eeee> its the same command
[04:21] <laspahr> oh whale haha
[04:21] <eeee> add mkfs.ntfs -Q /dev/sdb2
[04:21] <eeee> add the -Q it will format it quickly
[04:21] <tortib> Can anyone answer my question?
[04:22] <laspahr> wut happened to Ubottu?
[04:22] <laspahr> or whatever its name was
[04:22] <laspahr> :D that command is very polite lol
[04:22] <laspahr> It told me to have a nice day haha
[04:23] <eeee> lol
[04:23] <Beldar> !heartbleed | Robert__
[04:23] <laspahr> -.- I will not have a nice day.
[04:23] <laspahr> parted -l still says it's fat32
[04:23] <Robert__> Beldar, I have done those exact steps
[04:23] <Beldar> Robert__, THe version name is the same.
[04:23] <eeee> laspahr: weird..
[04:24] <eeee> you could try to do the tar.gz again
[04:24] <laspahr> what's the command..? ._.
[04:24] <eeee> well first mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt
[04:24] <Beldar> Robert__> please somehow help, our server is affected by heartbleed and this means what?
[04:25] <eeee> then mkdir /mnt/UbuntuBackup
[04:25] <eeee> then tar -czvf /mnt.....tar.gz /home
[04:25] <laspahr> fuse: mount failed: Device or resource busy
[04:26] <eeee> is it easy for you to get a live usb going ?
[04:26] <laspahr> yup
[04:27] <laspahr> easier than this crap haha
[04:27] <eeee> go for it
[04:28] <laspahr> aight I'm on
[04:28] <ObrienDave> Robert__, http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2165-1/
[04:28] <eeee> ok
[04:28] <HikaruBG> hi guys
[04:28] <laspahr> hi
[04:29] <eeee> fire up gparted
[04:29] <laspahr> sudo or no?
[04:29] <laspahr> eh doesn't matter I guess
[04:29] <HikaruBG> i have 2 computers with Linux - a desktop and a Laptop. Both with the Ubuntu 14.04
[04:29] <HikaruBG> The Desktop however updated to newer kernel than the laptop
[04:30] <laspahr> eeee: I'm on GParted on SDB
[04:30] <HikaruBG> this is the uname -a input for both:
[04:30] <laspahr> but it says 7.6GiB
[04:30] <HikaruBG> Linux svetoslav-Desktop 3.13.0-32-generic #57-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jul 15 03:51:08 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[04:30] <HikaruBG> Linux svetoslav-VAIO 3.13.0-30-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 4 21:40:53 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[04:30] <eeee> 7.6 ?
[04:31] <laspahr> si
[04:31] <laspahr> idk why
[04:31] <HikaruBG> so as you can see - the version for the VAIO is 3.13.0-30 in opose to 32 for the Desktop
[04:31] <HikaruBG> how to upgrade the Vaio to 32?
[04:31] <Beldar> HikaruBG, Have you run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in both? Are the both calling the same repo?
[04:31] <HikaruBG> yes
[04:32] <HikaruBG> Beldar, I have
[04:32] <Beldar> that was two questions
[04:32] <HikaruBG> Beldar, how to find out about the repo?
[04:32] <Jeffrey_f> HikaruBG: sudo apt-get update&&sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade&&sudo apt-get -y autoremove
[04:32] <laspahr> whoops eeee I unplugged my EXT HDD.. silly me
[04:32] <eeee> laspahr: i guess ctrl+alt+T, and lsblk
[04:32] <eeee> oh  ok
[04:33] <Beldar> HikaruBG, Look in etc/apt/sources.list or software & updates first tab
[04:33] <laspahr> okay, sdc2 now
[04:33] <HikaruBG> OK Beldar I am getting on it
[04:33] <laspahr> unknown file system
[04:34] <HikaruBG> Thanks, Beldar! I will let you know how it went
[04:34] <eeee> laspahr:  ok if you dont need anything on it just repartition the whole thing and format in ntfs
[04:34] <ObrienDave> HikaruBG, i have a Vaio and am running -32
[04:35] <Beldar> my toshiba is 30
[04:35] <catalase> someone tell me
[04:35] <catalase> what is wrong with having 777 directory
[04:35] <eeee> i have -30, and all repos checked, im curious as to why -32 doesn't show up in apt-cache search
[04:35] <Artemis3> such bad practise catalase letting anyone and their dog mess with the files
[04:36] <laspahr> should I delete sdc1 as well?
[04:36] <laspahr> and make the partition span the entire drive?
[04:36] <eeee> laspahr: up to you
[04:36] <eeee> if you have nothing on it
[04:36] <laspahr> eh i'll leave it, cuz idk what's in the other partition
[04:36] <laspahr> there's 1MiB unallocated space right now
[04:36] <catalase> Artemis3, what if i am the owner of the server and no one else uses it
[04:36] <eeee> laspahr: it's in the beginning right
[04:37] <Jeffrey_f> catalase: Nothing, as long as you are absolutely sure you want to let just ANYONE have Read/Write/Execute in that directory.  Usually 777 is reserved for a common share folder.
[04:38] <Artemis3> catalase, for starters, you are supposed to use an user without root (admin) privileges just in case, its what prevent mistakenly hosing your system (common in cetain other OS where no such thing as file permissions), oh and the random malware of the day of course :)
[04:38] <laspahr> eeee: idk
[04:38] <Bashing-om> Robert__:  see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2216096&page=2&highlight=heartbleed , http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2215886&page=3&highlight=heartbleed . see if these help.
[04:38] <laspahr> okay, sdc2 is now ntfs
[04:39] <laspahr> eeee: now what? :) making progress I hope
[04:40] <Artemis3> catalase, also if you are the only user, you own the files, no need to give access to others, even if they don't exist, the default permissions are good
[04:40] <eeee> ok
[04:40] <Jeffrey_f> catalase: IF you have other systems on your network, it is plausible that a user from another system and/or their virus and malware infected machine may cause havoc and infect, delete or otherwise damage files.....like the encryption virus would have full reign in that folder and goodbye files
[04:40] <eeee> in nautilus can u mount it?
[04:40] <catalase> i am absolutely sure that i am the only person who has a user account on the server
[04:41] <laspahr> gksu nautilus?
[04:41] <catalase> all other systems on the network are windows systems
[04:41] <catalase> small home network
[04:41] <laspahr> eeee: mounted now
[04:41] <laspahr> I think
[04:42] <ObrienDave> Robert__, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Upgrades
[04:42] <Jeffrey_f> catalase: all the more reason to keep your files accessible only by you on your machine.  Plausibly, a 777 folder is accessible to anyone
[04:42] <Robert__> thanks for the info Bashing-om ObrienDave
[04:42] <eeee> ok also mount /home
[04:42] <Robert__> seems really weird that the name and build date would stay the same though
[04:42] <laspahr> sda7..?
[04:42] <Artemis3> catalase, you might be the only user, but your system actually has some other users for limited operations, what if there is a compromise and they use an escalation priviledge from of the these default users?
[04:43] <catalase> Jeffrey_f, Artemis3, i have installed a software called pydio on my webserver. used to manage files
[04:43] <laspahr> eeee: how do I mount /home?
[04:43] <eeee> yeah
[04:43] <laspahr> do I need to use terminal?
[04:43] <catalase> but this software eneds to access the folder, and so i've given it 777 permissions
[04:43] <eeee> yeah i think its better
[04:43] <catalase> maybe there is a way to make a user for this program or something
[04:44] <Artemis3> catalase, file permissions is one of the key differences in security from unix type OSes to the rest, and a barrier against malware and attacks
[04:44] <eeee> go to the terminal type lsblk again
[04:44] <laspahr> ok?
[04:44] <laspahr> only thing mounted on sda is sda8 for [swap]
[04:44] <laspahr> sda6 is no longer mounted at root
[04:44] <eeee> and sdc is mounted ?
[04:45] <Artemis3> catalase, if you see closely, you will discover, for example your web server is running as another user, without elevated priviledges
[04:45] <Jeffrey_f> catalase: It is bad practice.  777 is full access, plausibly, without credentials......Best practice is to give access by group, add users to groups for special access
[04:45] <laspahr> sdc2 is mounted to /media/ubuntu/EXT HDD
[04:45] <Bashing-om> Robert__: Te build date should be after ther patch was implemeted .. Maybe the links i found will help to see what is going on .
[04:45] <Artemis3> catalase, suppose someone compromises your web server, with 777 they can make a mess elsewhere and take your server
[04:46] <Robert__> Bashing-om, ok cool
[04:46] <super> Artemis3, you better lock up that port 8080
[04:46] <catalase> how about 775 then
[04:46] <laspahr> eeee: now what? mount /dev/sda7 /home ?
[04:46] <laspahr> and sda6 / ?
[04:47] <eeee> laspahr: sudo mount /dev/sda7 /mnt
[04:47] <laspahr> oh
[04:47] <eeee> (not /home this time)
[04:48] <laspahr> okay, done
[04:48] <laspahr> can I exit gparted?
[04:48] <Artemis3> super, hmm i think your are probing the wrong person :)
[04:49] <bong>  i have installed grub-customizer on lubuntu. now where do i find it??
[04:49] <eeee> laspahr: mkdir /media/ubuntu/EXT\ HDD/UbuntuBackup
[04:49] <eeee> laspahr: yeah
[04:49] <Jeffrey_f> catalase:  You probably only need 664, you don't need execute unless your remote user is running a script
[04:49] <eeee> you can use tab completion after /ubuntu/EXT
[04:50] <laspahr> why the forward/backslashes?
[04:50] <eeee> it's for space
[04:51] <laspahr> Ah, I learn something new every day haha
[04:51] <super> just use "..."
[04:51] <Jeffrey_f> laspahr: it escapes a character (like a space) so the systems takes it as a single line instead of an argument to the command
[04:51] <laspahr> dang an hour just went by and I didn't even notice it... heh
[04:52] <bong>  i have installed grub-customizer on lubuntu. now where do i find it??
[04:52] <laspahr> eeee: next..?
[04:52] <eeee> bong: sudo find / -name grub-customizer
[04:52] <eeee> bong: try the dash first
[04:53] <sergio-br2> hey, anyone?
[04:54] <laspahr> si?
[04:54] <sergio-br2> hello :)
[04:54] <laspahr> hi
[04:54] <eeee> laspahr: tar czvf /media/ubuntu/EXT\ HDD/UbuntuBackup/......tar.gz /mnt
[04:54] <ezulo> greetings
[04:54] <sergio-br2> I send a package with dput to my ppa, but it seems it went to space or something like that
[04:54] <Jeffrey_f> catalase: 666 if you need the world to be able to erase/modify
[04:54] <catalase> Jeffrey_f, i set it to 775
[04:55] <Jeffrey_f> catalase: that's a little better.
[04:55] <Artemis3> i think the default is 755 for folders and 644 for files (you need eXecution to browse the folders)
[04:55] <laspahr> eeee: it didn't work :(
[04:56] <sergio-br2> does it take a while to publish in PPA, with dput?
[04:56] <catalase> interesting, 755 is working now
[04:56] <Jeffrey_f> Artemis3: Forgot about that......good point
[04:57] <eeee> laspahr: what did it say
[04:57] <Artemis3> and chmod can neatly give execution only to folders using +X instead of +x
[04:58] <laspahr>  /media/......... cannot open no such file or directory
[04:59] <Jeffrey_f> catalase: http://www.draac.com/chmodchart.html#
[04:59] <eeee> laspahr: try /media/ubuntu/EXT<tabcompletion>/homebackup.tar.gz /mnt
[05:00] <eeee> i mean tar -czvf /media....
[05:00] <laspahr> with tar czvf?
[05:00] <eeee> yeah
[05:00] <laspahr> lol
[05:00] <Artemis3> its easier to use the letters than bytes for chmod catalase ... chmod -R u+X /folder will give your user eXecution rights for all folders within... add g for group and o for others
[05:00] <laspahr> that worked, just took out the UbuntuBackup
[05:01] <eeee> laspahr: you can always move it to UbuntuBackup
[05:01] <laspahr> or leave it heh..
[05:01] <laspahr> let's hope it just finishes...
[05:01] <super> whats ubuntubackup?
[05:02] <laspahr> a dir
[05:02] <eeee> laspahr: moving takes no time, it's not like copying
[05:02] <laspahr> right, but still.. idek if UbuntuBackup is there
[05:02] <eeee> yeah i know, if it's there
[05:03] <laspahr> ah well.. idc where it is as long as it finishes the backup and I'm able to get my laptop back to it's correct functioning self.. lol
[05:03] <kendrick_> hey i have the package libbullet2.81 but i need libbullet2.80 for a dependency problem. Any help of how I can get this package by any means necessary?
[05:04] <laspahr> umm.. some things in .android I'm getting Cannot Open: Permission Denied
[05:04] <laspahr> WAIT
[05:04] <laspahr> we forgot sudo
[05:04] <eeee> yeahhhhh
[05:04] <eeee> lol
[05:05] <laspahr> lol there we go....
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> !info libbullet
[05:05] <wolfy1339> how can i accomplish this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/475023/how-to-make-vnc-server-work-with-ubuntu-desktop-without-xfce but using xubuntu-desktop instead
[05:05] <ObrienDave> kendrick_, http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/libbullet-dev
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> !info libbullet-dev
[05:05] <laspahr> !info | libbullet
[05:05] <catalase> Artemis3, so chmod -R ugo+RWX would be equivalent to chmod -R 777
[05:06] <laspahr> oops, my bad ig
[05:06] <kendrick_> I need 2.80 not 2.81...
[05:06] <ObrienDave> kendrick_, sent you the link
[05:06] <kendrick_> ObrienDave, thanks
[05:07] <eeee> laspahr: so rm /media/ubuntu/EXT<tab...>/homebackup.tar.gz
[05:07] <laspahr> rm?
[05:08] <kendrick_> ObrienDave, all the links are dead?
[05:08] <ObrienDave> hang on
[05:08] <andlabs> Hi. I literally just updated my system 30m ago or so and now I cannot log in - no matter what session I choose, the lightdm login disappears and then I ijust see the login window background and a movable mouse cursor but nothing else. What's going on? Thanks.
[05:08] <ObrienDave> raring is EOL. sec
[05:09] <eeee> yeah to remove the .tar.gz
[05:09] <laspahr> why remove it..? it's not even done yet
[05:09] <laspahr> ohhhhhhhhh
[05:09] <laspahr> nevermind...
[05:10] <kendrick_> ObrienDave, funny because i get a dependency error with this file too. I guess its the dev and I need the runtime first...
[05:10] <laspahr> removing it from the computer location to the hard drive.. but sda7 is mounted to /mnt
[05:10] <laspahr> not sdc2
[05:10] <laspahr> so it's moving to sda7?
[05:10] <kendrick_> ObrienDave, i found it hold on.
[05:11] <super> < I love using winff
[05:11] <Jeffrey_f> andlabs: get to a terminal (ALT-F2), login and rm ICEauthority and Xauthority.....then try again
[05:12] <eeee> laspahr: it's right sdc2 is at /media/ubuntu
[05:12] <ObrienDave> kendrick_, k
[05:12] <andlabs> Jeffrey_f: where are htose files? I'm on a live cd and can do it from here
[05:12] <eeee> laspahr: rm /media...../homebackup.tar.gz if it's there
[05:12] <laspahr> oh yeah.. so it's writing it from /mnt to /media/ubuntu ..?
[05:12] <eeee> yeah
[05:13] <laspahr> okay.. I'll let this finish first heh...
[05:13] <eeee> what about the sudo ?
[05:13] <laspahr> I canceled and did sudo
[05:13] <Jeffrey_f> andlabs: boot to your system's OS..  At the login, ALT-F2.  This will give you a terminal session.  You want to remove (rm .ICEauthority and rm .Xauthority) those hidden files.  They will be in the root of your home folder
[05:13] <Artemis3> catalase, you may only use cap for the X, what you meant was uog+xwr but thats not a good thing to do
[05:13] <eeee> oh ok
[05:14] <eeee> then nevermind
[05:14] <laspahr> yeah..
[05:14] <laspahr> it'll just overwrite it..?
[05:14] <andlabs> Jeffrey_f: "They will be in the root of your home folder" was what I was asking; thanks
[05:14] <eeee> yeah i think so
[05:14] <laspahr> awesome..
[05:14] <Artemis3> catalase, well order is irrelevant but looks prettier ugo (user group others)
[05:14] <Jeffrey_f> andlabs: when you login at the terminal, you will be in your home folder.
[05:14] <andlabs> blah, writeprotected from here
[05:14] <laspahr> still working Trash lol
[05:15] <andlabs> xyeah I know that
[05:15] <andlabs> thanks; will reboot now
[05:15] <Jeffrey_f> let us know
[05:15] <Jeffrey_f> I'll be here
[05:15] <Artemis3> catalase, to remove permissions use - as chmod -R o-wx ./folder
[05:16] <laspahr> woohoo, it made it to Downloads..
[05:17] <eeee> cool
[05:17] <laspahr> hopefully it makes it past spotify again heh..
[05:17] <laspahr> yup it did!
[05:17] <giorgiodinapoli> good moring guys
[05:17] <laspahr> I have a good feeling about this...
[05:18] <giorgiodinapoli> i try to apt-get update but i cannot get any mirror working anymore :(
[05:18] <giorgiodinapoli> for quantal
[05:18] <giorgiodinapoli> what is a good working mirror?
[05:18] <Beldar> giorgiodinapoli, IT is eol
[05:19] <laspahr> that's what I thought..
[05:19] <laspahr> if Raring is EOL, Quantal has to be as well
[05:19] <Artemis3> giorgiodinapoli, you probably need to add archive and use the main one, you won't get any updates but will allow you upgrading
[05:20] <laspahr> why not use Trusty..?
[05:20] <Blue1> I think 12.10 hit eol earlier this year iirc
[05:20] <laspahr> :O I just had a blonde moment...
[05:21] <eeee> lol
[05:21] <laspahr> never knew what iirc meant... until now
[05:21] <laspahr> and I'm not even a blonde haha
[05:21] <andlabs|2> Jeffrey_f: thanks; that did not fix the problem though
[05:21] <giorgiodinapoli> llok e.g. i added this Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com quantal Release.gpg
[05:21] <unreal-dude> 13.10 hit EOL early this year
[05:21] <ObrienDave> rofl
[05:21] <andlabs|2> in irssi right now
[05:21] <Artemis3> giorgiodinapoli, something like: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal main restricted universe multiverse in your sources.list
[05:21] <andlabs|2> is there a way I can bypass the login manager and just start X on another virtual terminal fo rnow?
[05:21] <Beldar> !eol | giorgiodinapoli look here
[05:22] <Jeffrey_f> andlabs|2: what hidden files are in your home folder?
[05:22] <Blue1> i think if he upgrades...won't it upgrade to 13.04 first?
[05:22] <Artemis3> Blue1, can use the archive mirror again
[05:22] <giorgiodinapoli> Artemis3,  Beldar, ubottu THX :)
[05:22] <ObrienDave> giorgiodinapoli, change 'archive' to 'old-releases' in your sources
[05:23] <Artemis3> Blue1, but might be easier to just backup and reinstall :)
[05:23] <andlabs|2> Jeffrey_f: http://sprunge.us/LPSC
[05:24] <Jeffrey_f> andlabs|2: is your default session gnome?
[05:24] <Blue1> Artemis3: yup i backup /etc/ and /home/ (if not on a seperate parition) first - then go for it.
[05:24] <giorgiodinapoli> ObrienDave, and then?
[05:24] <andlabs|2> Jeffrey_f: no, KDE
[05:24] <laspahr> ugh backup got stuck on /mnt/lancespahr/.android/avd/KK.avd/sdcard.img
[05:24] <andlabs|2> but I also tried xfce
[05:24] <laspahr> oop there it goes
[05:24] <andlabs|2> and have GNOME as another test
[05:24] <Artemis3> giorgiodinapoli, to avoid this situation try to stick to LTS releases, then you can upgrade every two years or keep using it for five before upgrading to the next LTS
[05:25] <Jeffrey_f> andlabs|2: try removeing .kde folder
[05:25] <andlabs|2> that wouldn't fix xfce, which also freezes like that
[05:25] <giorgiodinapoli> Artemis3, yes it was accidentially i think
[05:26] <andlabs|2> Jeffrey_f: actually it appears to be a lightdm problem
[05:26] <ObrienDave> giorgiodinapoli, that will find the quantal packages. change "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal main restricted universe multiverse" to "deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal main restricted universe multiverse"
[05:26] <andlabs|2> I just did sudo startx on another terminal and KDE started just fine
[05:27] <andlabs|2> however, because it's a different terminal, it isn't proper
[05:27] <Artemis3> giorgiodinapoli, backup then install 14.04 :) otherwise upgrading to the LTS will take lots of steps
[05:27] <giorgiodinapoli> ObrienDave, THANKS
[05:27] <laspahr> eeee: once this finishes what next?
[05:27] <giorgiodinapoli> Artemis3, complete new installation?
[05:27] <andlabs|2> ok new question
[05:28] <andlabs|2> how do I downgrade lightdm?
[05:28] <eeee> laspahr: what do you mean?
[05:28] <Artemis3> giorgiodinapoli, i think thats the easiest method in your situation
[05:29] <Jeffrey_f> andlabs|2: I had a similar problem.  I loaded kde so I can get around gnome not coming up......I removed then installed gnome and all was well
[05:29] <laspahr> once backup finishes, do I just go straight to reinstall?
[05:29] <andlabs|2> :S
[05:29] <andlabs|2> this only happened after installing updates tonight
[05:29] <Artemis3> giorgiodinapoli, people with 12.04 LTS can upgrade directly to 14.04 LTS
[05:29] <andlabs|2> !downgrade | andlabs|2
[05:29] <eeee> laspahr:  well you could back up the list of packages you have
[05:29] <laspahr> ?
[05:29] <andlabs|2> thanks ubottu , I don't know how to switch tabs in irssi
[05:29] <andlabs|2> !downgrade > andlabs|2
[05:29] <ObrienDave> giorgiodinapoli, once 14.04.1 is released very soon
[05:29] <andlabs|2> !downgrade
[05:30] <Artemis3> giorgiodinapoli, but if you leave LTS you have to upgrade every single one of them in sequence, you can do it but will take lots of time, and things might go wrong too
[05:30] <andlabs|2> -_-
[05:30] <somsip> andlabs|2: ALT + number
[05:30] <andlabs|2> ah, thanks
[05:30] <eeee> laspahr: dpkg --get-selections > /media/ubuntu/EXT<tab...>/packagesbackup
[05:30] <laspahr> I think the point of doing a fresh install was to get rid of all the PPAs
[05:30] <andlabs|2> ok still not sure how I can downgrade lightdm
[05:30] <laspahr> since I had so many
[05:31] <Jeffrey_f> ubottu is just a bot
[05:31] <ObrienDave> andlabs|2, NOT recommended
[05:31] <Artemis3> andlabs|2, if what you say its true, you can always use another dm :)
[05:31] <Jeffrey_f> andlabs|2: do you have backups?  maybe the better idea would be to reload the system
[05:32] <eeee> i'm not sure it saves the ppa's, anyways it's just a list,
[05:32] <laspahr> okay, well that way I can see what I need to install I guess.
[05:32] <andlabs|2> ObrienDave: why? / Artemis3: how would I do that temporarily? or do I need to muck with alternatives? / Jeffrey_f bleh
[05:32] <laspahr> Can't hurt right?
[05:32] <Artemis3> andlabs|2, and then remove purge lightdm and reinstall
[05:32] <eeee> laspahr: yeah it takes 1 sec, its huge though
[05:33] <laspahr> 1 sec but it's huge..?
[05:33] <andlabs|2> I'll try that first
[05:33] <Artemis3> andlabs|2, when you install a dm, it will ask you which one to use, its pretty harmless
[05:33] <eeee> its more if you want to get all your packages installed
[05:33] <andlabs|2> ah
[05:33] <laspahr> oh.. so would you recommend it or no?
[05:33] <andlabs|2> so just reconfigure another one then
[05:33] <eeee> laspahr: i mean it contains everything not just what you've installed with apt-get
[05:33] <andlabs|2> brb
[05:33] <eeee> laspahr: it can
[05:33] <eeee> it cant hurt
[05:33] <Jeffrey_f> andlabs|2: I know :-/
[05:34] <laspahr> okay, well I'll do it then lol
[05:34] <andlabs|2> rebooting, brb
[05:34] <wlg> 你好
[05:35] <wlg> 每人吗
[05:35] <eeee> !cn | wlg
[05:35] <laspahr> ..?
[05:35] <tortib> anyone know why this would occur? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7812741/
[05:36] <laspahr> Chinese I'm guessing..?
[05:36] <eeee> yeah
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> tortib: why you need a network restart?
[05:37] <tortib> lotuspsychje, to apply some ip addresses I put in the config...
[05:37] <laspahr> eeee: yay it finished!
[05:38] <tortib> lotuspsychje, any idea?
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> tortib: hmm doesnt it need to be stopped first?
[05:38] <tortib> restart stops it
[05:38] <tortib> and it failed while stopping it says...
[05:39] <laspahr> okie dokie, I think everything's finished and backed up....
[05:39] <andlabs|2> ok so it wasn't lightdm
[05:39] <andlabs|2> because gdm is behaving the same way]
[05:39] <laspahr> eeee: anything else I need to do?
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> tortib: http://askubuntu.com/questions/230698/how-to-restart-the-networking-service
[05:40] <tortib> lotuspsychje, i'm on ubuntu-server
[05:40] <tortib> I'm asking in there now...thanks.
[05:40] <Jeffrey_f> andlabs|2: and??
[05:41] <eeee> laspahr: i guess that's about it...
[05:41] <laspahr> heh I hope so
[05:41] <eeee> you know your wifi pass and stuff right?
[05:41] <andlabs|2> it just freezes on the gdm background, with a mouse cursor
[05:41] <eeee> saved passes and whatnot
[05:41] <andlabs|2> so I have no idea what happened :S
[05:41] <andlabs|2> oh wait no
[05:41] <andlabs|2> gnome shell started
[05:41] <andlabs|2> hmmmmm
[05:41] <jr_> Is there a way I can have my vpn automatically connect/reconnect?
[05:41] <laspahr> well after spending about two days (give or take) it's weird just being able to go for it.. yeah I know wifi pass haha
[05:41] <ObrienDave> after 2 days, i sure hope so LOL
[05:42] <laspahr> d/l updates while installing or install third party software?
[05:42] <andlabs|2> s/shell/classic/
[05:42] <Jeffrey_f> andlabs|2: Interesting?  Once it starts, log off, then back to make sure
[05:43] <eeee> laspahr: yeah, do both
[05:43] <bipul> May i know what kind of permission is it in a group rws ? what does s stands here? "drwxrwsr-x  6 root svn  4096 Jul 17 17:00 myproject"
[05:43] <laspahr> ok
[05:43] <ObrienDave> third party, ok. wait on the updates
[05:43] <laspahr> ok
[05:43] <andlabs|2> yeah I logged out, waiting for gdm to start back up now
[05:43] <laspahr> unmount sda7 and sdc2?
[05:44] <andlabs|2> not sure why xfce didn't start either, but will now wait to see how long it takes for kde to
[05:44] <andlabs|2> also gdm is very slow
[05:44] <eeee> laspahr: yeah the installer will ask to unmount i think
[05:44] <laspahr> allow it tho? eeee
[05:44] <eeee> yeah sure
[05:45] <andlabs|2> woah an ipv6 address
[05:45] <andlabs|2> first time I've seen one on IRC
[05:45] <eeee> lol
[05:45] <laspahr> reinstall?
[05:46] <andlabs|2> ok yeah kde isn't starting up now
[05:46] <laspahr> or something else?
[05:46] <andlabs|2> so why did it work from another vt
[05:46] <Jeffrey_f> andlabs|2: if the router supports it, and the isp does, you should see ipv6 out to most sites
[05:46] <eeee> laspahr: i'd do "something else"
[05:46] <laspahr> eeee: then?
[05:47] <andlabs|2> now to see if xfce is really frozen or I'm impatient
[05:47] <eeee> well partition as you see fit
[05:48] <laspahr> so I could just format the partitions I already had set up?
[05:48] <Jeffrey_f> andlabs|2: or both :)  lol
[05:48] <eeee> yeah i guess you could
[05:49] <andlabs|2> also from now on I'm g oing to record what packages get updated when I do
[05:49] <andlabs|2> yeah xfce is dead
[05:49] <andlabs|2> but since gnome classic isn't I can us eit
[05:49] <laspahr> hmm... sda4 and sda5..
[05:49] <laspahr> idk what I used those for..
[05:49] <laspahr> probably nothing
[05:49] <laspahr> their ntfs
[05:50] <laspahr> that's probably my windows files
[05:50] <eeee> yeah
[05:50] <Jeffrey_f> andlabs|2: autoremove and then install kde and it should fix it
[05:50] <laspahr> here goes!
[05:51] <laspahr> so to restore my backup, I do that after install?
[05:52] <eeee> you mount sdc
[05:52] <laspahr> then?
[05:52] <eeee> to /mnt
[05:52] <laspahr> oh I just dpkg the home-backup.tar.gz?
[05:52] <eeee> nooo
[05:52] <laspahr> no...?
[05:53] <eeee> tar -xzvf
[05:53] <andlabs|2> Jeffrey_f: thanks; will try that later
[05:53] <laspahr> heh I'd have a large metal paperweight if it weren't for you guys lol
[05:53] <andlabs|2> in the meantime I'll stay with gnome
[05:53] <andlabs|2> switching over
[05:53] <andlabs|2> thanks again
[05:54] <laspahr> tar -xzvf /mnt/home-backup.tar.gz ?
[05:56] <eeee> laspahr: tar -xzvf /mnt/home-backup.tar.gz -C /home
[05:57] <laspahr> ah
[05:57] <laspahr> and that'll put all my files that I had on my computer back where they were?
[05:57] <eeee> yeah
[05:57] <laspahr> now if only this install would hurry up and stop pokey butting around
[05:57] <ello> halo
[05:58] <ObrienDave> patience grasshopper ;P
[05:58] <Jeffrey_f> pokey butting?  That's a new one
[05:58] <laspahr> I think crap slow wifi has a part in that
[05:59] <laspahr> I'd switch over to Ethernet but I don't feel like going and switching the cables and my sister would probably get ticked off at me for it
[06:01] <Jeffrey_f> Yeah, don't do that
[06:02] <vbgunz> does anyone have the issue of using a ps3 controller and on some games like Goat Simulator, it's as if you're leaning on the dpad or analog sticks? I have this issue where it feels like my camera motion is being pushed for me
[06:02] <laspahr> hmm... is it worth spending 30 min waiting for this download, or should I switch....
[06:02] <ObrienDave> vbgunz, this is an Ubuntu support topic, how?
[06:03] <laspahr> or skip d/l language packs...
[06:03] <ObrienDave> laspahr, don't switch now, you'll kill the install
[06:03] <Jeffrey_f> you can probably skip the packs unless you need other than english
[06:03] <vbgunz> ObrienDave: I'm using Ubuntu to do this
[06:03] <laspahr> ah..
[06:03] <laspahr> should I skip download language packs?
[06:04] <ObrienDave> patience grasshopper ;P
[06:04] <Jeffrey_f> you could.....you can always get them if you need them
[06:04] <laspahr> I mean I'm really only using english ahah
[06:04] <laspahr> or maybe I'm not
[06:09] <laspahr> *yawn* of course, when I don't need it to, an hour flies by. when I need it to, it seems as if an hour has past but it's been like 5 min
[06:12] <saju_m> i am trying iptables redirect target. I added a redirect rule in nat table. How can i test that rule. I tried this http://paste.openstack.org/show/87091/   ,  but not working. Please take a look
[06:21] <laspahr> 10min...
[06:22] <vbgunz> anyone know whats causing the ps3 controller to "move" on it's own? this not only affects games like goat simulator but xbmc. anyone know how to fix this?
[06:24] <hqh> 65
[06:25] <laspahr> 65?
[06:33] <saju_m> Sorry i got disconnected. Posting it again
[06:33] <saju_m> i am trying iptables redirect target. I added a redirect rule in nat table. How can i test that rule. I tried this http://paste.openstack.org/show/87091/   ,  but not working. Please take a look
[06:40] <user39202> When I install an application, I would like to drag the icon to the desktop. How to do this?
[06:42] <Blue1> user39202: the only what I know how to do this is to go to /usr/share/applications/ and then copy the applicable application to the desktop -- I am using xubuntu fwiw
[06:42] <ObrienDave> left click and hold, drag and drop the app icon to the desktop
[06:44] <ObrienDave> at least Xubuntu works that way ;P
[06:44] <Blue1> ObrienDave: yup - i couldn't get the hang of unity or gnome 3 so this works.
[06:45] <ObrienDave> Unity is why I switched to Xubuntu LOL
[06:45] <Blue1> ditto
[06:46] <Blue1> xfce rocks on a quadcore
[06:46] <user39202>  Blue1:  No that doesn't work in unity, it rejects it.  Also symlinking a .desktop file to ~/Desktop gives a broken link :-(
[06:47] <user39202> all this desktop space going to waste when it could be used for icons.
[06:47] <Blue1> user39202: :-( sorry I don't have much experience with unity
[06:47] <user39202> Blue1:  less experience the better i think
[06:48] <ObrienDave> find the executable, right click, send to desktop as link?
[06:48] <ObrienDave> again an Xubuntu method
[06:48] <Blue1> user39202: do you have any icons on your desktop?  I recall having to fudge with gnome-tweak-tool and turning on desktop icons
[06:49] <user39202> Blue, yes I have folders I made shortcuts that work OK, but applications won't.
[06:49] <Blue1> user39202: sorry I can't help
[06:49] <user39202> Will try directly linking the binary to the desktop.
[06:52] <j80063r> I tried DBAN Darik's Boot and Nuke to wipe a micro sd 64 GB card using the zero method.  It gets about 50% and then begins logging verify errors.  I think that the encryption creates something cyclic so that you can't delete or format it without the password.  Any suggestions?
[06:54] <ObrienDave> j80063r, delete the partition and recreate it
[06:54] <j80063r> I have already tried many methods of deleting it with many tools in linux and windows
[06:55] <ObrienDave> and?
[06:55] <j80063r> most say write protected
[06:56] <ObrienDave> what programs and/or methods have you tried?
[06:56] <j80063r> this happened after installing linux to an encrypted partition.  I have a gut feeling that the encryption creates something cyclic so that you can't delete partition without the password
[06:57] <j80063r> dd, gparted, DBAN
[06:57] <ssbr> If I sudo do-release-upgrade I get this error: http://bpaste.net/show/AvdeVoEu9TGMwKzy5l8x/ . sudo apt-get clean doesn't help. How do I upgrade?
[06:57] <ssbr> This is a normal Ubuntu install, no extra special stuff, and I didn't deviate from the installation defaults except to enable full disk encryption. I am confused as to how Ubuntu ran itself out of space...
[06:58] <j80063r> dd and gparted seem to succeed but the partitions are still there
[06:58] <ObrienDave> old kernels, tmp files, lots of ways to run out of space
[06:58] <ssbr> ObrienDave: well, how do I get rid of those? do-release-upgrade's suggestion didn't work.
[06:58] <j80063r> DBAN gets about half way through and begins logging verify errors
[07:01] <ObrienDave> i don't know anything about DBAN. windows disk management would not delete the partition?
[07:02] <j80063r> its hard to believe that there is no way of removing these partitions just after performing an encrypted install, does anyone know exactly what making it encrypted actually does?  Testdisk shows sever linux partitions with the same CHS numbers an one with different
[07:03] <ObrienDave> ssbr, see if you can delete files in /tmp
[07:03] <user39202> j80063r, did you dd zero the device (not the partition) ?
[07:03] <ssbr> ObrienDave: what does that have to do with /boot ?
[07:04] <j80063r> yes, dd seems to progress, but does not actually zero the device
[07:04] <ssbr> ObrienDave: /tmp has 220GB available, /boot has 24MB available
[07:04] <ssbr> (according to df -h)
[07:05] <ObrienDave> oh you have multiple partitions for your install, i only have / and /home
[07:05] <ssbr> ObrienDave: Well yeah, because I enabled FDE like I said. /boot can't be encrypted obviously.
[07:05] <j80063r> windows disk management asks "do you want to delete this volume" but does not actually delete it
[07:05] <ssbr> what I don't get is why Ubuntu left /boot a mess?
[07:06] <ssbr> there's a bunch of files in there, look like old versions. But how am I supposed to know which to delete? Why didn't Ubuntu delete them after upgrading?
[07:06] <ObrienDave> beyond my knowledge of Linux partitions, sorry
[07:06] <ssbr> Well, can anyone else help?
[07:06] <ssbr> It's not cool that an essentially stock Ubuntu install is so broken.
[07:09] <j80063r> the FAT16 255 MB partition at the front of the drive still works fine, but can't be deleted
[07:10] <ObrienDave> j80063r, do you have something like gparted live or Parted Magic? thinking a bootable utility might be able to access it for deleting
[07:11] <j80063r> tried several like gparted and Darik'
[07:11] <j80063r> Darik's boot and Nuke
[07:11] <Ben64> could be a bad card
[07:11] <ObrienDave> not familiar with darik.
[07:11] <j80063r> gparted says all completed succussfully but then refreshes with all partitions still there
[07:12] <meteorNewbie> Hi! I'm running 14.04 server. If I want a script to run after EVERYTHING is up. Where should I put my script to run at the last possible point?
[07:13] <j80063r> the card was brand new when I tried installing Linux in an encrypted partition, then it hangs on boot with a flashing cursor, and partitions can't be deleted
[07:13] <Ben64> j80063r: ok? could still be a bad card
[07:13] <j80063r> Like I said, the FAT16 partition still works fine
[07:13] <Ben64> ok, still can be a bad card
[07:14] <j80063r> it was working fine until the install
[07:14] <Ben64> nothing you are saying is ruling out the possibility of a bad card
[07:14] <ObrienDave> j80063r, i'm thinking you need to run a stand-alone OS like parted magic. one that bypasses the normal mount sequence
[07:15] <ObrienDave> OS, utility, hope that's clear :)
[07:16] <j80063r> what about my gut feeling that its the encryption that is doing this, like it asks for my password when I try to access it but I may have forgotten it.  I have a windows utility for cracking linux encrypted partitions, but I'd have to create a password list
[07:16] <ObrienDave> and yes, Ben64 can be correct. we've seen cards go bad very quickly
[07:16] <Ben64> gut feelings aren't admissible evidence
[07:17] <GreatPotato> I need ruby 1.9+ installed on my ubuntu box - what is the best method?
[07:17] <user39202> j80063r:  Did you try to create a new partition table for the device using gparted?    gksudo Gparted> Device > Create Partition Table.
[07:17] <j80063r> I'm rather certain that using the encryption is what caused this and I think that it would work fine if I could remember the password
[07:18] <dorordian> Hello?
[07:18] <j80063r> tried using gparted and it won't delete any partitions
[07:18] <Ben64> j80063r: sounds like a bad card
[07:19] <trijntje> j80063r: you cant delete partitions when they are in use
[07:19] <rtl8188ce> hello folks
[07:19] <j80063r> you keep saying that but I'm sure that if you did this on a new hard drive it would do the same thing
[07:19] <Guest93466> how can i access remote desktop ubuntu system which have no static ip through  browser like webex?
[07:19] <ObrienDave> what bootable, stand-alone utilities have you tried?
[07:19] <j80063r> I can unmount the partitions, it doesn't help
[07:20] <j80063r> gparted, DBAN
[07:20] <Ben64> j80063r: encryption isn't magically stopping disk utilities from working, that makes no sense
 how can i access remote desktop ubuntu system which have no static ip through  browser like webex?]
[07:20] <rtl8188ce> i have been trying to fix my fluctuating wi-fi problem in 14.04 lts, no matter how many so called fixes i tried, nothing helped with it
[07:20] <Ben64> Guest93466: vnc
[07:20] <j80063r> I think its almost magical, I just can't find anyone who knows what that encryption actually does to the partitions to prevent them from deletion
[07:21] <Ben64> j80063r: the answer is encryption does nothing to prevent it from being deleted
[07:21] <j80063r> you would think so, but it seems that the creator of the encryption process figured it out
[07:21] <rtl8188ce> so i installed openSUSE to check if the same problem may occur but this distro seem to not have any difficulty with my wifi adapter
[07:21] <ObrienDave> Ben64, what about the possibility of a internal 'switch' for read only on a micro SD? i don;t think they have such capability
[07:21] <Ben64> j80063r: well you'd be incorrect
[07:21] <reisio> rtl8188ce: then no distro, properly configured, will have any problem
[07:22] <Ben64> ObrienDave: they do not have that capability
[07:22] <rtl8188ce> i was wondering if someone here could help me with finding what is causing that in ubuntu so i can fix it
[07:22] <j80063r> can you be so certain, do you know what partitions it creates?  I tried test disk and it finds several
[07:22] <ObrienDave> Ben64, thanks, i didn't think so but wanted a 2nd opinion
[07:22] <reisio> rtl8188ce: missing driver/firmware, probably
[07:22] <j80063r> FAT16 and about 6 linux partitions
[07:23] <reisio> 6?...
[07:23] <rtl8188ce> i have little knowledge with linux but i suppose if i can spot what is different in terms of driver/firmware between these 2 distros then i may fix in ubuntu
[07:23] <j80063r> 5 have the same CHS numbers, so it seems cyclic
 can i find any video tutorial for that? and which vnc software is better?
[07:23] <reisio> rtl8188ce: what's the device?
[07:23] <reisio> Guest93466: tigervnc
[07:23] <rtl8188ce> Realtek RTL8188CE
[07:24] <ObrienDave> reisio, he went with Full Disk Encryption
[07:24] <rtl8188ce> ubuntu sees it like that
[07:24] <reisio> ObrienDave: hrmm?
[07:24] <ObrienDave> reisio, hence the 6 partitions
[07:24] <rtl8188ce> but this one (suse) oddly reports it as RTL8192CE
[07:25] <meteorNewbie> Anyone? I'm running 14.04 server. If I want a script to run after EVERYTHING is up. Where should I put my script to run at the last possible point?
[07:25] <reisio> ObrienDave: that does not follow :) but I'll accept someone thought it was a good idea
[07:25] <reisio> rtl8188ce: reports via?
[07:25] <reisio> meteorNewbie: script for doing what?
[07:25] <ObrienDave> reisio, never said i understand it either ;)
[07:25] <reisio> ObrienDave: ah :)
[07:26] <meteorNewbie> reisio: Tracking down weird behavior on an AWS instance
[07:26] <ObrienDave> j80063r, sorry, tired, you said you did try Gparted live?
[07:26] <reisio> meteorNewbie: rc.local should be last
[07:26] <j80063r> yes
[07:27] <reisio> rtl8188ce: ?
[07:27] <j80063r> I tried gparted first because I'm familiar with it
[07:27] <ObrienDave> me too
[07:27] <rtl8188ce>  reisio: i see it in lsmod dump
[07:27] <meteorNewbie> reisio: OK! I'll give it a shot. Thanks
[07:27] <dorordian> Hello?
[07:27] <reisio> dorordian: hi
[07:27] <reisio> rtl8188ce: well that's all software
[07:27] <reisio> rtl8188ce: see what lspci says about it
[07:28] <rtl8188ce> reisio, checking in a sec
[07:28] <dorordian> Wow this is cool
[07:28] <reisio> dorordian: so cool
[07:28] <dorordian> I've never seen a real chat room before haha
[07:28] <ObrienDave> dorordian, 1st time in IRC?
 can i access its desktop using a browser
[07:29] <Guest93466> ?
[07:29] <dorordian> I feel like a noob for asking but what's IRC?
[07:29] <ObrienDave> LOL Internet Relay Chat
[07:30] <rtl8188ce> reisio, Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WFi Adapter (rev 01)
[07:30] <reisio> Guest93466: hrmm?
[07:30] <ObrienDave> and not to worry about noob questions :)
[07:30] <dorordian> Ohhhh haha makes since
 can u suggest any tutorial for doing tat?
[07:30] <rtl8188ce> reisio, Ethernet controller JMicron Technology Corp. JMC250 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 05)
[07:31] <ObrienDave> j80063r, still thinking
[07:31] <dorordian> I recently installed Xubuntu on an older laptop of mine and I find this XChat app on it and here I am now lol
[07:32] <j80063r> I always use google first when my arsenal fails, but lots of people have this or similar problems and there are no answers except buy a new card.
[07:32] <ObrienDave> j80063r, have you tried changing from MBR to GPT using fdisk?
[07:32] <Guest93466>  <reisio> can u suggest any video tutorial for doing that?
[07:32] <rtl8188ce> reisio, sorry, it seems like both in ubuntu and suse, this dump is same. but somehow on ubuntu, i get fluctuating signal and* download speed
[07:33] <j80063r> tried converting to GPT using another tool, not fdisk in windows or linux yet but since nothing can write to the card the changes don't get saved
[07:33] <rtl8188ce> which information that i can get from suse installation, would help me fix that problem in ubuntu i wonder?
[07:33] <reisio> rtl8188ce: read the bit about 8188ce at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsRealTek
[07:34] <reisio> rtl8188ce: oh it works, it's just less reliable?
[07:34] <ObrienDave> Ben64, isn't there another disk utility like fdisk for boot records and partitions?
[07:34] <j80063r> gdisk
[07:35] <rtl8188ce> reisio, the wifi works in both distros. in suse there is no problem, no fluctuation no slow DL speeds no disconnects. but in ubuntu i get all those, plus lagspikes, freezes in network data transmission etc.
[07:35] <reisio> ObrienDave: to do what?
[07:35] <user39202> rtl8188ce:   Sometimes I had to download the Linux driver from the vendor,  then compile the source code to get the WiFi working.
[07:36] <ServerSage> Hey Folks, not sure when this started, but lightdm is only showing me "Guest Session" and "Remote Login".  I don't have an option to log in as a user.
[07:36] <ObrienDave> change boot records for this micro SD card
[07:36] <j80063r> I did try gdisk also with no luck
[07:36] <reisio> ObrienDave: to do what?
[07:36] <reisio> j80063r: what're you trying to do
[07:36] <j80063r> delete partitions
[07:36] <j80063r> encrypted LUKS partitions
[07:36] <rtl8188ce> reisio, is there any way to spot the differences about the drivers of this device(s) in distros?
[07:37] <reisio> rtl8188ce: so what's the lsmod | grep -i rtl output?
[07:37] <reisio> j80063r: you want to delete partitions but keep some?
[07:37] <rtl8188ce> reisio, checking hold on
[07:38] <j80063r> no, wipe all and start over, dd won't zero even though it shows progress, but since its write protected by the encryption, all partitions are still there
[07:38] <ObrienDave> reisio, for now, delete all partitions, i think
[07:38] <rtl8188ce> reisio, several lines, i'm sending them to you if it's ok
[07:38] <reisio> ObrienDave: then he wouldn't need to deal with encryption...
[07:38] <reisio> j80063r: what dd command did you use?
[07:38] <reisio> rtl8188ce: sure, but if it's more than 3 use a psatebin
[07:39] <laspahr> eeee: you still on..?
[07:39] <j80063r> I'm very certain that the encryption also write protects the device until you enter the password
[07:39] <user39202> < i just compiled my WiFi driver from source and it's working wonderfully, though it's a Ralink 7601
[07:39] <j80063r> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc bs=1M
[07:40] <j80063r> sudo of course!
[07:40] <Ben64> j80063r: from where
[07:41] <ObrienDave> shouldn't bs be more like 4k?
[07:41] <reisio> j80063r: and what does it say?
[07:41] <Ben64> ObrienDave: 1M is fine
[07:41] <reisio> ObrienDave: it should be as high as your system can tolerate, for wiping
[07:41] <reisio> otherwise it'll take forever
[07:41] <j80063r> shows the progression, and completion but no changes
[07:41] <reisio> j80063r: what makes you think there're no changes?
[07:41] <ObrienDave> k
[07:41] <j80063r> the partitions are still there
[07:41] <reisio> IME if you try a number near max RAM, it won't work so well :p
[07:42] <reisio> j80063r: according to what?
[07:42] <j80063r> gparted, windows, etc. everything
[07:42] <Ben64> where are  you running gparted/dd from
[07:42] <reisio> j80063r: from a live OS? :p
[07:42] <j80063r> live usb, or an installed linux Zorin OS
[07:44] <helmut_> hi
[07:44] <j80063r> same results, 255 MB FAT16 partition that functions properly and  a 63 GB Encrypted partition that I can't mount without the password
[07:45] <Guest93466>  <Ben64>,<reisio>,  using vnc, how can i access the remote system (which have no static ip), using th e browser?
[07:46] <Ben64> Guest93466: some vnc servers have a little web server that runs with a java version of a vnc client
[07:46] <Guest93466> can u suggest something ?
[07:46] <reisio> helmut_: hi
[07:47] <reisio> Guest93466: no-ip.com
[07:47] <Ben64> !find vnc | Guest93466
[07:47] <reisio> j80063r: if that's actually so, then it's hardware encryption
[07:48] <reisio> yay spam...
[07:48] <j80063r> somehow choosing to install linux to an encrypted partition has created some cyclic partitions that function as a sort of hardware encryption
[07:49] <Ben64> j80063r: stop making things up...
[07:49] <j80063r> ok, but that's the only possible answer
[07:49] <Ben64> no it isn't
[07:49] <reisio> j80063r: either you haven't used dd right, or the device has its own hardware encryption
[07:49] <reisio> the former is more likely
[07:50] <j80063r> I'm sure I used it correctly
[07:50] <reisio> I s'pose you could also still be incorrectly concluding it hasn't worked, too
[07:50] <Ben64> or my suggestion from quite a while ago... bad sd card
[07:50] <rtl8188ce> reisio, sent you the dump from suse
[07:50] <reisio> what you said, from a live OS, sounds correctly enough... IF that was the right device for 'of'
[07:50] <Ben64> much more likely than a laughing computer virus uploaded from a mac to an alien's computer
[07:50] <j80063r> then choosing encryption made it go bad, but it still works?
[07:50] <GreatPotato> My ubuntu 14.04 install doesnt seem to have a pdo driver?
[07:50] <GreatPotato> Can anyone help?
[07:51] <ObrienDave> pdo?
[07:51] <Ben64> j80063r: who says it still works? doesn't sound like it works if nothing can be written to it
[07:51] <j80063r> it asks for the password when I try to access it and the first partiton can still accept files
[07:52] <reisio> GreatPotato: what ObrienDave said
[07:52] <ObrienDave> GreatPotato, what is a pdo driver?
[07:52] <GreatPotato> Yeh, my laravel is reporting “PDOException - could not find driver”
[07:52] <reisio> rtl8188ce: which system is this from?
[07:52] <j80063r> Ben64 - have you ever tried the LUKS encryption?
[07:52] <reisio> GreatPotato: heh
[07:53] <GreatPotato> ?
[07:53] <Ben64> j80063r: nope, i don't like losing my data
[07:53] <GreatPotato> Everything ive read says it should just be there by default :/
[07:53] <reisio> that's a bit hyperbolic
[07:53] <j80063r> I may try TrueCrypt but I was just experimenting
[07:54] <j80063r> I just don't want to throw away an $80 card
[07:54] <Ben64> get it replaced since it's defective
[07:54] <ObrienDave> GreatPotato, http://wogan.wordpress.com/2014/03/22/fixing-pdoexception-could-not-find-driver-for-laravel-on-windows/
[07:55] <j80063r> I may go that route, but I really beleive that entering the password correctly would make it work normally
[07:55] <reisio> j80063r: so enter it correctly
[07:55] <j80063r> lol, I'd like to
[07:55] <Ben64> we keep going around in circles. i'll tell you the reality. nothing written to a sd card can prevent writing to a sd card
[07:55] <GreatPotato> Ive done “apt-get install php5-mysql” and still hve the problem
[07:55] <trendynick> j80063r: the bug with initialiazing usb media (with no partition table)?
[07:56] <j80063r> I must dissagree, you don't understand how LUKS works
[07:56] <viscera> Is there some reason why Ubuntu installer can't do LUKS+LVM alongside a Windows install? Fedora doesn't have a problem doing it.
[07:56] <Ben64> you can believe whatever you want, but if you're writing zeros to fill a sd card and nothing happens, that sounds like a bad sd card
[07:56] <ObrienDave> GreatPotato, k
[07:56] <GreatPotato> http://www.daveperrett.com/articles/2007/04/02/installing-mysqlpdo-for-php/
[07:56] <GreatPotato> Possibly have to modify the php ini
[07:56] <reisio> j80063r: a separate OS (such as a live OS) doesn't care about LUKS on a separate system
[07:56] <j80063r> like I said, LUKS made it write protected
[07:56] <reisio> j80063r: then all you have to do is find the luks-associated command to reverse it
[07:56] <reisio> go forth
[07:57] <trendynick> LUKS is software encryption
[07:57] <j80063r> entering the password
[07:57] <reisio> j80063r: what about it?
[07:57] <j80063r> LUKS created cyclic partitions
[07:57] <reisio> j80063r: this isn't a blog
[07:58] <reisio> if you just want to say the same things over and over ignoring what people are talking about, try #defocus
[07:58] <j80063r> I don't blog, I'm just searching for some know-how
[07:58] <Ben64> you're searching for someone to share in your delusion. you will not find it here
[07:58] <reisio> you appear to be searching for a twitter account
[07:58] <furkan> rtl8188ce: did you try compiling from source?
[07:58] <j80063r> so far no one knows how LUKS creates partitions
[07:58] <Ben64> so far you don't listen to reason
[07:58] <meganerd> j80063r: several people here know how
[07:59] <reisio> j80063r: even if it does what you say, you already know what you have to do
[07:59] <viscera> Anyone?
[07:59] <Lost_x> chat channel that talks about configuring dns server?
[07:59] <Lost_x> what channel that talks about configuring dns server?
[07:59] <meganerd> j80063r: I have LUKS on several devices (including my laptop / partition)
[07:59] <j80063r> has anyone tried testdisk on a LUKS partition?
[07:59] <viscera> Debian can do it, too... but Ubuntu discontinued the Ubuntu Alternate Installer so that doesn't help me much.
[07:59] <j80063r> meganerd, did you ever forget a LUKS password?
[08:00] <viscera> I found some long, convoluted instructions to do it manually but I don't think I should have to do that.
[08:00] <meganerd> j80063r: no
[08:00] <meganerd> j80063r: I regularly change the passwords
[08:00] <j80063r> try forgetting one once and see if yoiu can delete the partitions
[08:00] <meganerd> j80063r: in fact I just changed my laptops LUKS passphrase yesterday
[08:01] <meganerd> j80063r: sudo ddrescue -f /dev/zero /dev/sdX
[08:01] <meganerd> j80063r: works every time
[08:01] <Ben64> why ddrescue for /dev/zero
[08:01] <meganerd> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX count=4096
[08:02] <meganerd> Ben64: fast, and doesn't care about media errors
[08:02] <ordroid> #ipython
[08:02] <meganerd> Ben64: if I am wiping a partition, there was probably a good reason for it.  If starting over I just like a nice wiped disk.
[08:03] <meganerd> Ben64: even on flash
[08:03] <meganerd> j80063r: I just wiped a disk earlier tonight to give to a friend in need
[08:04] <meganerd> j80063r: ddrescue (I could have used dd) did not care about LUKS or anything else on that drive
[08:04] <j80063r>  unable to locate package ddrescue
[08:04] <reisio> no point wiping an entire disk unless you want to be sure nobody can read old data from it
[08:04] <meganerd> j80063r: gddrescue
[08:05] <meganerd> reisio: I find it is a good habit.  Also I have ddrescue output a log, so I can verify that there were no problems.
[08:05] <reisio> wasting time is a bad habit
[08:05] <viscera> Alrighty, then.
[08:06] <meganerd> reisio: security is not a bad habit
[08:06] <reisio> no, wasting time is
[08:06] <reisio> 's'why I said that, and not security
[08:06] <viscera> Seriously, nobody cares about encrypted Linux alongside a Windows install...
[08:06] <reisio> language is neat, isn't it :p
[08:06] <meganerd> reisio: no, not wiping drives before you give them away is a bad habit
[08:06] <viscera> I would have thought that'd be a pretty damn common use-case
[08:06] <reisio> viscera: not to this extent, heh
[08:06] <reisio> meganerd: only if you worry about people finding old data
[08:07] <viscera> reisio: my only remaining option for a low-hassle desktop install is CentOS. Can you believe it?
[08:07] <reisio> realistically, people who are that concerned with security should not be giving away drives for second hand use :p
[08:07] <meganerd> reisio: better safe than sorry
[08:07] <reisio> just destroy them physically
[08:07] <reisio> viscera: nope
[08:07] <viscera> Why'd Canonical kill the alternate installer?
[08:07] <Ben64> use the mini/netboot if you really liked it
[08:07] <reisio> viscera: they didn't really
[08:07] <j80063r> copying non-tried blocks...  seems to be working
[08:07] <reisio> they just renamed it, basically
[08:08] <reisio> as to why they did that... <shrug>, daftness I expect, it's popular
[08:08] <viscera> reisio: to what Ben64 is talking about?
[08:08] <meganerd> viscera: with virtualization there is less demand for dual booting
[08:08] <viscera> meganerd: virt sucks
[08:08] <reisio> viscera: probably to you
[08:08] <Ben64> vm is great, i just set up an encrypted vm of ubuntu, gonna dd it and watch it disappear
[08:09] <meganerd> viscera: It depends on what you are doing.  99% of what I care about virtualization rocks
[08:09] <reisio> Ben64: heh
[08:09] <meganerd> viscera: gaming is pretty much the only use case that is hit or miss
[08:09] <viscera> meganerd: and running a composited guest on my graphics card (intel series 4) apparently
[08:09] <reisio> meganerd: will be less so in these days of hardware passthrough
[08:09] <j80063r> j80063r will watch a movie while 5 to 64 GB is "rescued"
[08:09] <viscera> meganerd: not to mention the utter waste of RAM
[08:10] <meganerd> reisio: when it works :)
[08:10] <reisio> as opposed to? :p
[08:10] <meganerd> viscera: not as bad as you might think
[08:10] <viscera> meganerd: i used to virt
[08:10] <meganerd> viscera: windows is a waste of ram
[08:11] <meganerd> viscera: the linux kernel is really good at reducing redundancy in RAM, which is fantastic for running a lot of VMs based on the same OS.
[08:11] <viscera> meganerd: doesn't help me much
[08:11] <meganerd> viscera: though containers are better from an effiency point of view
[08:11] <j80063r> meganerd, thanks if ddrescue works
[08:11] <viscera> they also don't help me much
[08:11] <meganerd> j80063r: dd would do the trick as well.
[08:11] <reisio> what's he doing now, trying to use ddrescue to zero?
[08:11] <viscera> if there was a FOSS hypervisor as good as vmware workstation, i might do it
[08:11] <viscera> but there isn't
[08:12] <j80063r> I did try dd and it said it succeeded but the partitions were still there
[08:12] <meganerd> reisio: seems like it
[08:12] <viscera> and please don't suggest virtualbox
[08:12] <reisio> viscera: kvm
[08:12] <reisio> waste of time, though
[08:12] <viscera> reisio: you must be joking
[08:12] <meganerd> viscera: you and I probably have different ideas of good
[08:12] <reisio> like the man said, "containers" are better
[08:12] <viscera> windows in a container wouldn't work
[08:12] <meganerd> viscera: kvm FTW
[08:12] <reisio> viscera: you wouldn't want it to
[08:13] <viscera> meganerd: using a graphical os interactively in kvm is quite painful compared to vmware/virtualbox
[08:13] <meganerd> viscera: no, containers are linux specific
[08:13] <viscera> meganerd: i know :)
[08:13] <reisio> viscera: nah
[08:13] <meganerd> viscera: install the proper drivers
[08:13] <viscera> meganerd: it's still crappy
[08:13] <viscera> e.g. you have to do file shares over SMB instead of via the hypervisor
[08:13] <reisio> they're all the same
[08:13] <meganerd> viscera: I have different experiences
[08:13] <reisio> except that kvm is more efficient
[08:13] <viscera> and it doesn't do dynamic display resizing iirc
[08:14] <reisio> viscera: it can
[08:14] <viscera> reisio: which bit?
[08:14] <reisio> viscera: any bit
[08:14] <viscera> reisio: kvm does shared folders and dynamic guest display resizing?
[08:14] <Ben64> well, dd worked on my vm
[08:14] <reisio> viscera: yup
[08:14] <viscera> wow
[08:14] <Ben64> took out the encryption like it wasn't magical
[08:14] <viscera> not last time i checked
[08:14] <reisio> Ben64: you should try magick encryption, 's'funner
[08:14] <reisio> viscera: sure it did
[08:15] <viscera> i might try it again
[08:15] <meganerd> viscera: on a local machine use spice, most of my hypervisors are on the network, so I just rdp to the windows ones
[08:15] <trendynick> I only use virtualbox because the other require too much knowledge for minimal use and the advanced feature are only for business environment
[08:15] <meganerd> rdp to the windows guests
[08:15] <Ben64> j80063r: so i can definitively say that i am correct. encryption isn't magic
[08:15] <viscera> the other thing was stuttering sound iirc
[08:15] <reisio> trendynick: virtualbox is quite straightforward :)
[08:15] <meganerd> trendynick: virtualbox is painfully slow
[08:15] <reisio> and since hardware virtualization is almost always a waste of time
[08:15] <viscera> meganerd: spice with a windows guest?
[08:15] <reisio> ...
[08:15] <trendynick> I have Vt-d
[08:15] <meganerd> trendynick: still slow
[08:15] <reisio> viscera: stuttering sound just playing a sound file?
[08:16] <viscera> reisio: it was a while ago... iirc, yes
[08:16] <reisio> trendynick: he's being hyperbolic, he means "slow-ER"
[08:16] <reisio> viscera: probably the wrong driver
[08:16] <trendynick> I can watch fullhd youtube
[08:16] <reisio> #kvm would be the place
[08:16] <meganerd> viscera: of course use what you know.  KVM does not have the easy point and click interface, but it has all the heavyweight features
[08:16] <viscera> reisio: if i decide to go down that path i'll try it again. my dualboot setup really is quite good for me, though. when the linux installer can actually do it, that is.
[08:17] <reisio> viscera: you game win32?
[08:17] <viscera> reisio: not currently
[08:17] <reisio> what's windows for, then?
[08:17] <viscera> reisio: business
[08:17] <reisio> :/
[08:18] <GreatPotato> When i try to install a ruby gem i get the following:	
[08:18] <GreatPotato> http://pastebin.com/GVc53Vr3	
[08:18] <GreatPotato> Which is strange because when i do ruby -v, my version is “ruby 1.9.3p484 (2013-11-22 revision 43786) [x86_64-linux]”	
[08:18] <GreatPotato> Is gems trying to install to the wrong place	?
[08:18] <viscera> reisio: i'm also a bit of a compulsive distro hopper so having sda1 and sda2 always functional is nice
[08:19] <trendynick> I tried xen but was annoyed by not being possible to S3(suspend to ram), failed to virtualize FX1800, did not actually tried kvm but on CPU GPU...
[08:21] <trendynick> I was annoyed by lack of documentation and needing to ask for help, I could have written scripts if acceptable for my usage, 1/4 of my usage is a vdi and iso in /dev/shm and little tests -> virtualbox does not get in the way too much
[08:29] <meganerd> trendynick: ya, documentation was really painful there for a while
[08:37] <edition> hi.
[08:37] <edition> Is there a good converter for MS Powerpoint?
[08:38] <edition> ODP files can be opened with Office 2010, but not with the Powerpoint viewer
[08:39] <cfhowlett> edition libreoffice - "save as"
[08:39] <function9> edition: libreoffice doesn't do it?
[08:39] <edition> theres issues.
[08:40] <edition> when ODP files are opened with MS Powerpoint, it attempts a repair...
[08:40] <cfhowlett> edition use libreoffice for windows then
[08:41] <ObrienDave> edition, save them as .ppt files
[08:41] <Nickd55345353> hello
[08:41] <function9> hi
[08:41] <Nickd55345353> how to be a root user in terminal ty?
[08:41] <cfhowlett> !root Nickd55345353
[08:41] <trendynick> I have flash CPU spikes  - frame freeze for 3s - that I cannot escape from after some time; is it possible to script to kill only flash and it is possible to force to have some memory to open a tty (sometimes I have lag of minutes and cannot even login after 5min) ; 32GB i5-2400 I usually S3 ~2w uptime 2+ webbrowsers: 10-20GB (I even stop the most important to minimize timeout bugs)
[08:41] <Nickd55345353> ty
[08:42] <edition> thanks
[08:42] <cfhowlett> !root | Nickd55345353
[08:42] <edition> is there a difference between sudo and root?
[08:43] <cfhowlett> edition read the wiki
[08:43] <ObrienDave> sudo is the equivalent of root
[08:43] <edition> sudo'ers?
[08:44] <edition> how can I increase the IDE disk size, for virt-manager?
[08:47] <meganerd> edition: do you want to increase the virtual disk?
[08:50] <edition> yes
[08:52] <mpourhadi>  anybody can recommend a Nintendo nes emulator with easy installation i use 64bit OS
[08:53] <elithrar> Looking at the Upstart cookbook (updated 2014-07-17) can I assume that user jobs aren't able to log to /var/log/upstart/* (i.e. I'd need to manage my own logging solution)? (I asked this in #upstart as well, but it's pretty quiet over there)
[08:53] <edition> mpourhadi: have you tried sourceforge?
[08:54] <HelperW_> Hello
[08:54] <HelperW_> Is someone able to help me out on this one? I am trying to setup a local domainname for a webproject.
[08:54] <HelperW_> I made a little roundup about my issue : http://paste.jesse-obrien.ca/9ws/raw
[08:54] <HelperW_> Thanks a lot if someone could help me out on this one.
[08:56] <Genera_> Hello World
[08:57] <HelperW_> yo
[08:57] <meganerd> HelperW_: what are you trying to do, just have it so that you can access the webserver by name, or have everyone access the webserver by name?
[08:57] <HelperW_> The ideal scenario would be that everyone can access it on the local network by that url.
[08:57] <HelperW_> With " dev.l4-youtubeuploader.local  " so I don't think I have to change the host locally.
[08:58] <Genera_> Can someone tell me why the default Workgroup name WORKGROUP causes connection errors when i try to acces it?
[08:58] <meganerd> HelperW_: then every machine will need an entry in their hosts file
[08:58] <Lope> how can I flush my DNS cache on ubuntu 14.04?
[08:58] <meganerd> HelperW_: or you setup a DNS server
[08:58] <HelperW_> Is that a hard process? Settings up DNS server?
[08:58] <meganerd> HelperW_: yes and no
[08:59] <meganerd> HelperW_: not hard, but not something you are likely to get right the first time
[08:59] <HelperW_> Hmmm.
[09:00] <mpourhadi> edition, i tried most of the projects like mednafen,gfceux(woks fine on 32bit),fceu(terminal base but woks on 64bit hard to configure)
[09:00] <meganerd> HelperW_: you also have to make sure that every one is using this DNS server, so you might need to make changes to a router... there can be a number of pieces
[09:01] <HelperW_> It is a local webserver.
[09:01] <HelperW_> as in ' a real machine'  wich is working as a server .
[09:01] <meganerd> HelperW_: does not change anything
[09:01] <HelperW_> I don't have access yet to the router I guess :s
[09:01] <HelperW_> You mean to do portforwarding?
[09:02] <meganerd> HelperW_: nope, all LAN machines will need to do their lookups via your name server
[09:02] <HelperW_> oh
[09:02] <HelperW_> let's first do it then on my own system.
[09:02] <HelperW_> I changed my own hosts file now I am able to access dev.l4-youtubeuploader.local
[09:02] <HelperW_> but then I see l4-youtubeuploader/ that folder.
[09:02] <HelperW_> but I would like to have it directly going into that one.
[09:03] <meganerd> HelperW_: that is an apache vhost
[09:03] <HelperW_> on the webserver.
[09:03] <HelperW_> not on my machine.
[09:03] <meganerd> HelperW_: yup
[09:04] <meganerd> HelperW_: you configure that in apache
[09:04] <HelperW_> http://paste.jesse-obrien.ca/9wO
[09:04] <HelperW_> That is currently in it.
[09:05] <meganerd> HelperW_: change the document root
[09:05] <HelperW_> Is that a good approach when I will have lateron more projects/
[09:05] <meganerd> HelperW_: or create a vhost specifically for that file system folder
[09:05] <HelperW_> Well that looks more what I want I gues.s
[09:07] <HelperW_> What do you think about this config meganerd: http://paste.jesse-obrien.ca/9wP
[09:07] <j80063r> Thanks meganerd, ddrescue worked, dd did not
[09:08] <j80063r> sorry spoke too soon, the partitions are still there!!!
[09:08] <meganerd> HelperW_: looks good, though I rarely  use vhosts
[09:08] <meganerd> j80063r: that makes zero sense
[09:08] <HelperW_> Works! :)
[09:08] <Ben64> meganerd: thats what i've been trying to say
[09:09] <meganerd> Ben64: I should have scrolled further up I guess
[09:09] <HelperW_> When I look into /var i see a folder webmin
[09:09] <HelperW_> is that a control panel?
[09:09] <meganerd> HelperW_: did you install webmin?
[09:10] <Ben64> meganerd: it was a while ago. dd didn't work, gparted didn't work, some windows stuff didn't work. i decided "bad sd card" is the likely cause
[09:10] <HelperW_> oh sorry it's not a folder webmin.
[09:10] <HelperW_> its an pplication
[09:10] <meganerd> Ben64: ya, that makes no sense
[09:11] <j80063r> /dev/sdb1 FAT16  /dev/sdb2 extended /dev/sdb5 crypt-luks
[09:11] <meganerd> HelperW_: it is a perl app that provides a web interface for managing the system
[09:11] <HelperW_> oh nice
[09:11] <meganerd> HelperW_: I don't actually use it
[09:11] <HelperW_> Well I am thinking now about
[09:11] <HelperW_> how to setup a ftp for just that 'domain'
[09:11] <edition> im using xubuntu. is there a command to close all the windows?
[09:11] <meganerd> HelperW_: to see if it is actually running "sudo lsof -i |grep webmin"
[09:12] <Ben64> !webmin | HelperW_ , meganerd
[09:12] <meganerd> HelperW_: You would need to configure an FTP server.  I have not willingly configured an FTP server in more than a decade now
[09:12] <dongel> hi
[09:13] <meganerd> HelperW_: Ben64 to be clear, I in no way endorse webmin.  Like I said I don't use it.
[09:13] <HelperW_> oh ok :)
[09:13] <jatt> can i replace upstart with systemd in 14.04 and expect everything to work?
[09:13] <HelperW_> but I guess there is already a ftp 'server' running
[09:13] <Ben64> well my point was that it's not supported :)
[09:13] <meganerd> HelperW_: sftp (aka ssh for file transfers)
[09:13] <HelperW_> sftp
[09:13] <j80063r> gparted showed unallocated space but after clicking device > create partition table, all old partitions are back
[09:13] <k1l> jatt: on no way.
[09:14] <HelperW_> http://paste.jesse-obrien.ca/9wV
[09:14] <jatt> ok
[09:14] <jatt> thanks
[09:14] <meganerd> HelperW_: sftp is sort of part of ssh
[09:14] <Ben64> j80063r: try the card in a different system
[09:14] <dongel> So I could not get my mobile itnernet to work yesterday but I left it plugged in and started my computer this morning and now it just works! but if I unplug it and connect it, it does not work. So apparently this is just handled correctly when  I start the PC. Can someone help me explain and fix this? Some routine is only run on startup and never again I guess...?
[09:14] <HelperW_> secure-file-transfer-protocol.  != sftp in the way we are talking about it now?
[09:14] <k1l> jatt: systemd is planed to be standard in 16.04. until then they need to figure a lot
[09:15] <jatt> i see, thanks
[09:15] <j80063r> I have tried it on 2 systems, including a desktop with live usb
[09:15] <Ben64> j80063r: then guess what? bad sd card
[09:15] <j80063r> but the same thing would happen with any other drive, I'm certain of it
[09:15] <Ben64> well you're incorrect
[09:16] <meganerd> HelperW_: you would configure a different user for each "vhost", and simply set that user's home directory to be the webroot for that vhost.
[09:16] <j80063r> you haven't even tried it
[09:16] <Ben64> actually i did
[09:16] <meganerd> j80063r: is this an sd card?
[09:16] <Ben64> installed onto a vm, dd'd away successfully
[09:16] <HelperW_> That should be indeed the good setup.
[09:16] <j80063r> yes micro sd 64 GB
[09:16] <meganerd> j80063r: do you have the write protect switch turned on?
[09:16] <j80063r> there is no switch on micro sd's
[09:16] <j80063r> but I have tried it in an adaptor with the switch off
[09:18] <meganerd> j80063r: I have wiped countless SD/mSD/usb/sdd/ssd disk in this manner.  Just about every common-ish partition type, file system, and encryption scheme
[09:18] <j80063r> so have I but never with LUKS
[09:19] <meganerd> j80063r: I have done LUKS a lot (since I use it on my laptops)
[09:19] <j80063r> it did delete the partitions but creating a partition table brought them back
[09:19] <HelperW_> Thanks for your help meganerd
[09:19] <meganerd> HelperW_: you are welcome
[09:20] <meganerd> HelperW_: always nice to help a fellow canuck
[09:20] <j80063r> so I'm trying ddrescue again, then maybe I'll try windows to create a partition
[09:20] <Ben64> ddrescue isn't magic, luks isn't magic. you have a broken sd card. why don't you want to believe
[09:21] <meganerd> j80063r: just run "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=</path/to/sd/device> count=8192 ; sync"
[09:22] <Ben64> for 7 hours this has been going nowhere. the sd card is toast
[09:22] <eldawg> Ben64: what is the issue?
[09:22] <HelperW_> meganerd:  are you used working on webprojects?
[09:22] <Ben64> eldawg: partitons on a sd card won't delete
[09:22] <meganerd> HelperW_: my day job is spent with C# devs and IIS
[09:23] <meganerd> HelperW_: personally I am pretty much all FLOSS
[09:23] <meganerd> HelperW_: lots of internet services, some happen to use web servers
[09:23] <ObrienDave> eldawg, LUKS full disk encrypted partitions won't delete
[09:23] <eldawg> even with gparted? - is the drive unmounted? general starting questoins
[09:23] <meganerd> HelperW_: my background is sysadmin /operations / networks
[09:24] <HelperW_> awesome. :)
[09:24] <j80063r> ben64 - why don't I believe the card is bad?  because only installing linux with LUKS made it write protected and the FAT16 partition still works, ddrescue wrote to all blocks, and the system still asks for a password when I try to mount it.
[09:24] <meganerd> j80063r: neither dd nor ddrescue care about partitions or file systems
[09:24] <Ben64> j80063r: right, because dd isn't writing to the card, because IT IS BROKEN
[09:25] <meganerd> j80063r: what device name are you writing to?
[09:25] <eldawg> trash the sd card and get a new one
[09:25] <eldawg> problem solved
[09:25] <j80063r> right now, gparted shows 58.91 GB of unallocated space
[09:25] <j80063r> sdb
[09:25] <meganerd> j80063r: that does not sound right for an sd card
[09:25] <meganerd> j80063r: should be /dev/mmcbl0 or some such
[09:25] <j80063r> but when I choose 'create partition table" they come back
[09:26] <Ben64> can be sdx from being in a usb->sd adapter
[09:26] <meganerd> j80063r: sudo fdisk -l
[09:26] <meganerd> Ben64: good point
[09:26] <eldawg> just trash the damn thing and buy another one
[09:26] <meganerd> j80063r: post the results
[09:26] <eldawg> what thats $20? cmon
[09:26] <Ben64> eldawg: thats what i've been saying
[09:26] <eldawg> Bun64 good man
[09:26] <eldawg> Ben64 good man*
[09:26] <meganerd> +1
[09:27] <j80063r> Disk /dev/sdb: 63.2 GB doesn't contain a valid partition table
[09:28] <ObrienDave> j80063r, now make it GPT
[09:28] <j80063r> how? fdisk?
[09:28] <ObrienDave> gparted should do
[09:28] <ObrienDave> i think, tired :)
[09:29] <meganerd> j80063r: or gfdisk
[09:29] <meganerd> j80063r: erm gdisk
[09:29] <meganerd> way too tired.
[09:34] <ObrienDave> j80063r, i have a 32GB micro SD in an adapter. it mounts as /dev/mmcblk0p2
[09:34] <j80063r> OK; writing new GUID partition table (GPT) to /dev/sdb   Warning: The kernel is still using the old partition table, the new table will be used at the next reboot,   The operation has completed successfully.
[09:34] <j80063r> rebooting it now
[09:35] <DCrex> Hello all!
[09:35] <ObrienDave> DCrex, welcome
[09:35] <DCrex> Thank you Dave. btw, my name is also Dave
[09:36] <ObrienDave> j80063r, also LUKS encrypted
[09:36] <DCrex> It's nice to see that irc is still very much alive.
[09:36] <j80063r> ok, I'll check for other /dev's
[09:41] <j80063r> seems to be mounted as only /dev/sdb /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdb2 and /dev/sdb5
[09:41] <eldawg> wasting hours of time on a broken sd card isn't a good use of your time
[09:41] <eldawg> maybe it is
[09:41] <justinnn> how to remove software
[09:42] <ObrienDave> j80063r, i can't remember the password either LMAO
[09:42] <mbs1> i am on ubuntu 14.04 and wasnt able to add this ppa :ppa:neon/kf5
[09:42] <mbs1> http://www.webupd8.org/2014/07/how-to-install-plasma-5-in-kubuntu-1410.html
[09:43] <ObrienDave> mbs1, remove the leading :
[09:43] <Ben64> mbs1: 14.10 support in #ubuntu+1 and PPAs aren't supported here or #ubuntu+1 so you're kinda on your own there
[09:44] <mbs1> ObrienDave: sorry that was a typo.  i did it without leading :
[09:45] <ObrienDave> k
[09:46] <ObrienDave> mbs1, like Ben64 said, you're on your own.. https://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Using_Project_Neon_to_contribute_to_KDE
[09:47] <mbs1> Ben64: I am on ubuntu 14.04
[09:47] <function9> mbsl: #kubuntu :)
[09:49] <ServerSage> mbs1: While you are running 14.04, the PPA you are trying to add is a 14.10 PPA.
[09:50] <bipul> How to authenticate SVN user, using (file://) direct repository access (on local disk)
[09:50] <mbs1> ServerSage, ohhhh thanks i didnt realise that
[09:50] <ObrienDave> j80063r, i moved the 32G micro sd to a USB reader and mine mounts as sdd1 and sdd2 (LUKS)
[09:51] <ServerSage> mbs1: No problem.
[09:51] <dongel> which is the best and most active ubuntu forum?
[09:51] <ofdm> In which file do I change the GTK theme? I use lubuntu lxde/openbox
[09:51] <ObrienDave> dongel, you're in it :))
[09:52] <mbs1> ServerSage: could you please tell me which ppa shuld i use if i want to install kde5
[09:52] <dongel> well I am looking for a non-IRC one, a normal forum
[09:52] <cfhowlett> dongel www.ubuntuforums.org
[09:52] <ObrienDave> don't know
[09:53] <ServerSage> mbs1: Sorry, no idea.
[09:53] <dongel> ty
[09:54] <k1l> dongel: or see on askubuntu.com
[09:54] <noitam> Any ideas how I could run a command within a desktop file (Exec=vim -c "startinsert" "xdg-user-dir DOWNLOAD"/"date +%%y%%m%%d-%%H%%M%%S"-note.md)? Last part - where I want to create the file name - isn't working.
[09:55] <noitam> Tried with ''' and '`' too.
[09:56] <Ben64> noitam: make it a script instead of the desktop file
[09:56] <ObrienDave> j80063r, i just now deleted both the LUKS and fat32 partitions from uSD card with Xubuntu's disks utility. ejected and remounted, no more LUKS. took all of 15 seconds to do
[09:56] <dongel> i need open id for ubuntu?
[09:57] <noitam> Ben64, good idea. So I could create a script in ~/bin and call this one in the desktop file.
[09:57] <Ben64> noitam: yeah that should work
[09:57] <HelperW_> meganerd: are you used working with GIT?
[09:57] <j80063r> ok, I now suppose that LUKS is what made it go bad, but I'm still trying to see if I can crack it with luks_crack
[09:57] <meganerd> HelperW_: for my personal stuff, daily
[09:57] <j80063r> in windows
[09:57] <Ben64> j80063r: luks didn't make the sd card bad
[09:58] <cfhowlett> dongel you don't "need" ANY id for ubuntu
[09:58] <HelperW_> I am trying to push a project to my webserver.
[09:58] <meganerd> HelperW_: at work I set up a TFS server and now migrating to visualstudio online
[09:58] <dongel> cfhowlett, i meant ubuntuforums
[09:58] <meganerd> HelperW_: usually I do a git pull to get code
[09:58] <meganerd> HelperW_: that way you can specify the branch (like head, dev, test etc.)
[09:58] <HelperW_> yes but don't I have to setup first where to 'pull it from' ?
[09:59] <WXZ> I need a wav player that will show .cue lines
[09:59] <HelperW_> What I did : local : git init, git add .  , git commit -m  "first commit"
[09:59] <HelperW_> What I did : server : git init
[09:59] <meganerd> HelperW_: yup.  Initialize an empty directory, then git clone it to your dev box and web server
[09:59] <HelperW_> where to grab that url from to clone
[10:00] <meganerd> HelperW_: you only need init the first time, from every other box you use "git clone <url>, where url could be read only http or rw via ssh
[10:00] <ObrienDave> noitam, don't you have too many % in there?
[10:00] <HelperW_> hmm
[10:00] <HelperW_> yes indeed, but where can I find that url?
[10:00] <meganerd> HelperW_: so for ssh that would be "git clone user@host:/path/to/repo"
[10:01] <marcules> hmm - what do I have to install to get tab-completion on remote systems (when I have a key) - like in rsync me@remote-host:~/[TAB][TAB]
[10:01] <HelperW_> so the server needs to fetch it from my local computer first.
[10:01] <meganerd> HelperW_: if the repository is in the user's home folder: "git clone user@host:tracked_folder"
[10:01] <noitam> ObrienDave, no. That's the way it's escaped. Because % has another meaning in desktop files.
[10:01] <HelperW_> I have no idea how to grab the host for my own computer
[10:01] <HelperW_> is that my ip?
[10:01] <meganerd> HelperW_: if your local computer is acting as the git server
[10:01] <HelperW_> no my computer is not the git server
[10:01] <ObrienDave> noitam, ok, was not sure, thanks
[10:01] <meganerd> HelperW_: could be IP
[10:02] <HelperW_> My computer has a project wich I would like to push to the server.
[10:02] <HelperW_> (local server)
[10:02] <meganerd> HelperW_: think of git as a pull mechanism
[10:02] <HelperW_> wich is a fysical webserver a few rooms away from here :P (just to make it clear)
[10:02] <meganerd> you commit push code to a repository, then on the server pull from that repository
[10:03] <HelperW_> When I try to do locally a git push :
[10:03] <HelperW_> Either specify the URL from the command-line or configure a remote repository using
[10:03] <meganerd> HelperW_: where did you do the git init?
[10:03] <HelperW_>     git remote add <name> <url>
[10:03] <HelperW_> Local project on my personal computer.
[10:04] <meganerd> HelperW_: then from the server "git clone user@IP:folder"
[10:04] <TJ-> HelperW_: The target of the push must have previously created the repo you're pushing to
[10:04] <sokoll> Can anyone helps me with this question > http://serverfault.com/questions/613285/setting-up-additional-breadcrumb-re-direct-using-mod-rewrite
[10:06] <noitam> Works. Desktop file: 'Exec=sh -c "~/bin/vim-note"'. Script: "vim -c 'startinsert' `xdg-user-dir DOWNLOAD`/`date +"%y%m%d-%H%M%S"`-notiz.md".
[10:06] <noitam> Thanks, Ben64.
[10:06] <HelperW_> git clone username@192.168.1.26:User/myname/Applications/MAMP/htdocs/2014/LearningLaravel/LaravelVideoRating/
[10:06] <HelperW_> likethat?
[10:06] <TJ-> sokoll: That's a more appropriate question for #httpd
[10:07] <meganerd> HelperW_: I am going to grab a couple of hours of sleep.  I stayed up way too late (got a second internet connection and have been playing with routing as well as a second IPv6 tunnel)
[10:07] <HelperW_> Oh :D nice
[10:07] <sokoll> TJ-: I've asked on there but noone is responding to me :(
[10:07] <HelperW_>  Enjoy your nap!
[10:08] <HelperW_> And thanks for all the helpfull information.
[10:08] <meganerd> HelperW_: awesome documentation at: http://git-scm.com/book, though I actually bought the ebook (and videos) from orielly.
[10:08] <TJ-> sokoll: That is really where the mod_rewrite experts will be :)
[10:08] <HelperW_> thanks! :) I know that site aswell :D
[10:08] <sokoll> TJ-: I know, I was just trying to see if anyone can help here
[10:11] <TJ-> sokoll: How about a similar rule before the existing rule, to match the longer path?
[10:12] <sokoll> TJ-: so just add
[10:12] <sokoll> Redirect permanent / http://www.website.org/site
[10:12] <sokoll> oops
[10:12] <sokoll> Redirect permanent / http://www.website.org/site/site
[10:12] <sokoll> Redirect permanent / http://www.website.org/site
[10:12] <sokoll> I mean above
[10:12] <sokoll> ?
[10:12] <TJ-> sokoll: no, you're not matching on the longer path
[10:12] <sokoll> What do you mean?
[10:13] <sokoll> What would I add as an example?
[10:14] <TJ-> sokoll: Your question is about mod_rewrite but you're using mod_alias to do the Redirect
[10:15] <TJ-> sokoll: "The Redirect directive maps an old URL into a new one" - so insert another Redirect before the existing one, that matches on the old-URL longer path
[10:15] <sokoll> Ok, but can you type an example of how you would do that?
[10:15] <sokoll> So I'm clear on what you mean
[10:16] <TJ-> sokoll: Read the docs... if you're doing this kind of admin, *you* need to learn it:  http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/mod/mod_alias.html#redirect
[10:16] <sokoll> I have read the docs but I struggle to understand them, so thats why I'm asking. I learn better that way
[10:17] <noitam> Does anyone know how I can call vim and toggle an option at the same time? I will run ":AutoSaveToggle" (is a vim plugin) on startup.
[10:17] <noitam> But I don't want it in the vimrc file
[10:17] <TJ-> sokoll: Do you understand what the current rule doesn?
[10:19] <TJ-> noitam: "man vim" "/^OPTIONS" and then "/\{command"
[10:19] <sokoll> Not really :(
[10:19] <sokoll> the mods for apache are pretty complicated
[10:19] <TJ-> sokoll: This is what I mean about needing to understand it
[10:19] <TJ-> sokoll: break the line down based on the docs
[10:20] <noitam> Oh, I've already used the option. "-c".
[10:20] <noitam> Thx, TJ-.
[10:22] <TJ-> sokoll: Look at the doc "Syntax" line. Think like this: Each parameter is separate by spaces, the comand is parameter #1 so "Redirect", then an optional "[status]" (the square brackets indicate it is optional) so "permanent", then the requested URL, so you have the root "/" then the destination host+URL, where you have "http://www.website.org/site"
[10:23] <TJ-> sokoll: So, now you want another similar rule that matches on the requested "/site/site" path. With 2 rules, their order might be significant. If the "/" rule is matched and acted upon before the server tests the "/site/site" rule, the "/site/site" rule would never get used, so it makes sense to put it *before* rules matching on shorter paths
[10:27] <Brace> I have an issue with one user (other users on the same PC are fine) where by regardless of the PC they login to, Unity shows up with no icons in the menu bar and most programs won't start up
[10:27] <cfhowlett> Brace test this with by logging into the geust account
[10:28] <Brace> have tried resetting unity, removing the relevant .config/compiz files and a few other things
[10:28] <Brace> cfhowlett: other users can login to the PC fine
[10:28] <TJ-> Brace: sounds like a per-profile user config issue... is this a roaming profile?
[10:28] <Brace> it's a LDAP/Kerberos setup with about 20 users and NFS homedirs
[10:29] <cfhowlett> Brace not what I was asking.  do the icons and menus display as normal in the guest account.
[10:29] <Brace> cfhowlett: what difference would the guest account make?
[10:30] <Brace> TJ-: yes, I think is a user specific profile error, I'm just trying to figure out how to reset the profile (which I assume is a dotfile in the home dir somewhere?)
[10:30] <lemonsparrow> if [ "$OSTYPE" = "darwin11" ];  how to rewrite this line for any value that starts with darwin ?
[10:30] <lemonsparrow> darwin11 darwin12 all should work
[10:31] <cfhowlett> Brace verification/rejection of per user profile as TJ suggested
[10:32] <TJ-> Brace: the fastest way would be to create a new clean dummy profile, and then 'diff' the "$HOME/.config/" against the 'bad' one, for clues
[10:32] <Brace> cfhowlett: yes the guest session works fine
[10:33] <Brace> cfhowlett: as do other users on the machine
[10:33] <Brace> TJ-: what's the best way to create a 'dummy' profile?
[10:33] <TJ-> Brace: also, might need to look at "$HOME/.{dconf/gconf}" - I've not touched Unity for a while now so I can't be more specific
[10:33] <Brace> or could i just compare it with a working one?
[10:33] <TJ-> Brace: Just create a new profile... dummy as in you'll delete it afterwards
[10:34] <TJ-> Brace: A working profile might have other customisations that would mislead you
[10:34] <Brace> by profile, you really mean user right?
[10:34] <TJ-> Brace: what you want is the standard, default profile that is created before the user gets to mess it up
[10:34] <TJ-> Brace: Yes
[10:34] <Brace> gotcha
[10:35] <Brace> ok, I'll give that a whirl, thanks for the pointer
[10:35] <colonolGron> hello, is anybody in here running ubuntu on a macbook retina? i would like to know if it works and whether it needs tweaking?
[10:35] <ikonia> colonolGron: I've run it
[10:35] <ikonia> there are pros/cons to it
[10:35] <colonolGron> ikonia: great :) finally someone with first hands experience. whats the cons?
[10:36] <ikonia> colonolGron: the retina display / font scaling, the broadcom card is "questionable" in terms of it's support/stability under linux,
[10:36] <ikonia> colonolGron: thunderbolt is basically "not at all"
[10:36] <ikonia> colonolGron: the UEFI implementation is not standard.
[10:37] <ikonia> colonolGron: that's pretty much the bottom line of the cons
[10:37] <cfhowlett> ikonia any idea why all this seems to work on the MacBook Air?
[10:37] <ikonia> cfhowlett: different hardware
[10:37] <colonolGron> ikonia: did the broadcom card didnt work often?
[10:37] <geirha> puh, glad I kept OSX on my retina then; with Ubuntu in a vbox, of course
[10:37] <ikonia> cfhowlett: although thunderbolt works on the mac book air ?
[10:38] <ign> http://www.macbreaker.com/2014/01/install-osx-mavericks-on-pc-with-niresh.html
[10:38] <colonolGron> ikonia: and what does the different UEFI implementation mean for me as a user?
[10:38] <ikonia> colonolGron: it's not black/white work/not work, it's things like reduced signal power
[10:38] <sokoll> TJ-: Sorry for the delay in the reply
[10:38] <colonolGron> ikonia: i see
[10:39] <sokoll> That makes sense, so what I said before would be to do this: http://pastebin.com/AZq2rcpe
[10:39] <colonolGron> ikonia: but does the installation process differ? i mean do i have to do anything special? configuring something?
[10:39] <ikonia> colonolGron: so....that is subjective
[10:39] <sokoll> TJ-: That makes sense, so what I said before would be to do this: http://pastebin.com/AZq2rcpe
[10:40] <sokoll> TJ-: right?
[10:40] <colonolGron> ikonia: can you explain a little? what "additional" work compared to installation on a standard laptop?
[10:40] <TJ-> sokoll: wrong
[10:40] <ikonia> colonolGron: I had to put in a lot of effort to get it booting natively from EFI, and couldn't get it fully intergrated (one of the tests I was running)
[10:40] <ikonia> colonolGron: however if you use things like refit it's pretty standard
[10:40] <sokoll> Ok :( this is why I need to visually see what you mean
[10:40] <TJ-> sokoll: So, now you want another similar rule that matches on the requested "/site/site" path. With 2 rules, their order might be significant. If the "/" rule is matched and acted upon before the server tests the "/site/site" rule, the "/site/site" rule would never get used, so it makes sense to put it *before* rules matching on shorter paths
[10:41] <colonolGron> ikonia: i heard refit is old. i installed refind. so its just like installing refind and then it will know about ubuntu after installation?
[10:41] <ikonia> colonolGron: there is also an ubuntu-mac install DVD which is support to be prepped for installing on a mac, I've not tried this
[10:41] <sokoll> TJ-: can you just type it out and show me? I am visual person and it really helps to see it.
[10:41] <TJ-> sokoll: In the docs, you need to focus on the Syntax line and its "URL-path" parameter
[10:41] <ikonia> colonolGron: sorry you're correct I meant refind, old wordig with refit
[10:41] <TJ-> sokoll: No, I'm deliberately not doing that because you need to understand how to read this stuff... being given it on a plate is not going to help you
[10:42] <sokoll> TJ-: it's not giving it to me on a plate, I learn better by seeing examples. When I learned to play drums, I could never follow music without being shown first, as soon as someone showed me once how to do it, I found it much easier to follow and understand the music. I'm not being lazy.
[10:42] <TJ-> sokoll: Think about it: You have *two* different incoming request paths (URL-path) you wish to match, and act on, by sending them off to different "URL" destinations
[10:43] <noiano> hello
[10:43] <TJ-> sokoll: You've got an example already in your existing command and the docs, modify that example to match the "URL-path" of the request for "/site/site"
[10:43] <andlabs|2> Hi again; continuing from last night, I upgraded and it installed new upstart and xgb-utils. Now KDE tries to boot again... and immediately crashes. Fortunately, it does leave some garbage in .xession-errors...
[10:44] <colonolGron> ikonia: so its just installing refind, and then installing ubuntu, no special configuration needed, correct?
[10:44] <andlabs|2> http://sprunge.us/WiIP - what's going on now? Thanks.
[10:44] <ikonia> colonolGron: I've just stated the issues,
[10:45] <colonolGron> ikonia: i mean, then i solved the different efi implementiation "issue"
[10:45] <andlabs|2> xfce session also crashes immediately
[10:45] <sokoll> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/YCLrei1g
[10:45] <ikonia> colonolGron: refind removes efi as an issue
[10:45] <colonolGron> ikonia: retina isnt a big problem for me i guess. tried the scaling in a vbox
[10:45] <andlabs|2> but leaves nothing in .xsession-errors
[10:45] <andlabs|2> unless this .xsession-errors isn't related?
[10:45] <colonolGron> ikonia: so there is the broadcom hardware as an issue left if i am correct
[10:46] <ikonia> yes
[10:46] <andlabs|2> ok never mind forget I said anything
[10:46] <andlabs|2> .xsession-errors was bogus ^^
[10:46] <ikonia> you may also have to monkey around with xorg to get your gestures working,
[10:46] <TJ-> sokoll: almost, but the command syntax specifies only one URL-path URL pair per statement. You were almost there with your previous pastebin... you just need to correct the "URL-path" parameter
[10:46] <colonolGron> great, thanks ikonia
[10:46] <Brace> I guess a rather hammer like approach would be just to backup and remove the whole .config and let it be recreated, see if that works
[10:47] <sokoll> TJ-: The redirective instructions don't make sense to me. I have a hard time understanding technical documentation
[10:47] <andlabs|2> also I just tried wiping .kde and that didn't fix it
[10:48] <sokoll> TJ-: redirect directive*
[10:48] <andlabs|2> so I don't think that's the issue...
[10:48] <colonolGron> but i suppose noone in here know the difference between 64-bit and "64-bit mac (amd64)" iso download?
[10:48] <ikonia> colonolGron: I told you that earlier
[10:48] <ikonia> colonolGron: was is designed to be installed on the mac, the other is standard
[10:49] <andlabs|2> so I'll just start over
[10:49] <colonolGron> ikonia: you also said you didnt try it out. but it is supposed to have better hardware support or whats the difference exactly?
[10:49] <ikonia> colonolGron: it can't have better hardware support - as it's the same base product
[10:49] <andlabs|2> Hi. After installing updates last night and this morning, I can't log into any session other than the 'GNOME Classic' session: I can log in, then a few seconds later X11 crashes and takes me back to the login screen. How can I a) figure out what's going on and b) fix it? Thanks.
[10:50] <ikonia> colonolGron: it's just got things like awareness of the mac platform configured in the installer
[10:50] <colonolGron> ikonia: i dont know what that means "awareness of the mac platfrom"
[10:50] <colonolGron> ikonia: i am downloading it right now, maybe i'll see
[10:51] <TJ-> sokoll: The syntax of a Redirect command is "Redirect [status] URL-path URL" ... you get to change status URL-path and URL to your own values. There is one Redirect per line per required redirect, as you did in http://pastebin.com/AZq2rcpe ... the only thing you didn't do in that change was to set the "URL-path" to "/site/site"
[10:51] <ObrienDave> a mac has different hardware (platform) than a PC
[10:51] <colonolGron> ObrienDave: like what? i thought the new macbooks are pretty standard?
[10:52] <ObrienDave> i wouldn't know, i don't do macs
[10:52] <TJ-> andlabs|2: Create a new user account and find out if that is affected too. If not, it is likely caused by some per-user custom configuration issue
[10:52] <cfhowlett> colonolGron "standard" for Apple, yes.  Standard for "PC"s?  nope.
[10:52] <andlabs|2> how would I create a new user account from the command line in Ubuntu?
[10:52] <andlabs|2> I can never remember all the different ways I've learned ^^
[10:52] <cfhowlett> !adduser | andlabs|2
[10:53] <sokoll> TJ-: Right, and what you just said doesn't explain it any more to me, what I sent you in http://pastebin.com/AZq2rcpe is how I understand what you said. I thought I was setting to the URL path to /site/site by adding it in the first re-direct line BEFORE the redirect line with just /site/
[10:53] <colonolGron> cfhowlett: i thought they use normal stuff now, now powerpc stuff anymore, so i wonde what should be different
[10:53] <andlabs|2> yes, that helps when I can't get an X session running (and I'm not going to risk breaking th eone that does work)
[10:54] <ObrienDave> a mac is a mac and is NOT a PC
[10:54] <TJ-> colonolGron: Most Linux code is developed for "IBM PC compatible/Industry Standard architecture" systems. Apple has done certain things another way, and because they don't support Linux, that means some things won't work or have to be modified to have a standard Linux distro installation on some Apple hardware
[10:54] <neo1691> I am having some problem with firefox 30 on ubuntu 12.04, it is loading github.com without the css. the site loads correctly on chrome. Any help
[10:54] <colonolGron> ObrienDave: that didnt help me much :/ sorry
[10:54] <colonolGron> TJ-: i see, thanks
[10:54] <_Rocky_> neo1691: Do you have any developer addons?
[10:55] <_Rocky_> neo1691: like web developer tools?
[10:55] <ObrienDave> no getting snarky cfhowlett ;P
[10:55] <andlabs|2> ok
[10:55] <andlabs|2> I just tried a guest session
[10:55] <andlabs|2> and... KDE works
[10:55] <andlabs|2> :S
[10:55] <TJ-> sokoll: Yes, you changed the destination "URL" but you did *not* change the *request* URL-path that comes in - the one you want the rule to match
[10:55] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave wait, what?  did I snark?
[10:56] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, that was a pre-emptive snark ;P
[10:56] <TJ-> andlabs|2: I thought so - looking at the error log I think I saw hints of non-standard plugins/add-ons that might be the culprit
[10:56] <sokoll> TJ-: I dont understand why you can't show me. I appreciate what you're trying to do but this isn't helping me, I need to SEE things to then read back on the instructions so I can understand and relate the two
[10:56]  * cfhowlett bites tongue to restrain overwhelming urge to snark ... must ... resist ... urrrrrrrrr
[10:56] <neo1691> _Rocky_ I can install
[10:56] <ObrienDave> lol
[10:57] <neo1691> tell  me which one
[10:57] <TJ-> sokoll: Which parameter of "Redirect permanent / http://www.website.org/site/site" is the URL-path ?
[10:57] <sokoll> TJ-:  the URL??
[10:57] <_Rocky_> neo1691: No. You dont need to. The point I was trying to make was, you might have some add on that is disabling CSS
[10:57] <TJ-> sokoll: No. Look at the doc again, the Syntax shows you have "Redirect [status] URL-path URL"
[10:57] <TJ-> sokoll: So, which of your parameters is the "URL-path" ?
[10:58] <neo1691> I am using pendytcl for vim
[10:58] <neo1691> apart from that nothing
[10:58] <neo1691> and  dta
[10:58] <neo1691> downthemall
[10:59] <TJ-> sokoll: "Redirect      [status]      URL-path      URL"
[10:59] <TJ-> sokoll: "Redirect permanent / http://www.website.org/site/site"
[11:00] <TJ-> sokoll:  which is easier to read if you do:
[11:00] <TJ-> sokoll: "Redirect permanent       /                   http://www.website.org/site/site"
[11:00] <ObrienDave> sokoll, notice the spaces in the command syntax?
[11:00] <sokoll> That's what I put!
[11:00] <sokoll> Yes, there are spaces
[11:00] <sokoll> there is no URL path in the syntax
[11:00] <TJ-> sokoll: Yes it is... and now you need to *change* "URL-path" to be the request path you want to redirect
[11:01] <ObrienDave> sokoll, *hint* the URL-path is the single /
[11:01] <TJ-> sokoll: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/mod/mod_alias.html#redirect
[11:01] <andlabs|2> whoops, accidentally rebooted
[11:01] <andlabs|2> all right, so the guest session works, so that means something is wrong with my local config
[11:01] <sokoll> Yes, I'm ready the documentation. I always read the documentation before I ask questions, then I ask if they don't make sense to me.
[11:01] <sokoll> reading*
[11:01] <andlabs|2> and because multiple DEs are crashing like this... what global X11 configuration is there?
[11:01] <TJ-> sokoll: You've currently got *two* Redirect rules both looking to match on the URL-path of "/" ... one of those needs to change to "/site/site"
[11:01] <ObrienDave> \o/ andlabs|2
[11:01] <sokoll> The '/' reads as the [status] to me.
[11:02] <TJ-> sokoll: "Redirect permanent       /site/site                   http://www.website.org/site/site"
[11:02] <sokoll> Which is why the documentation is confusing.
[11:02] <TJ-> sokoll: No, status is "permanent" - every parameter is separated by one or more spaces
[11:02] <sokoll> Right
[11:02] <ObrienDave> sokoll, in order, [status] is permanent
[11:03] <TJ-> sokoll: "Redirect        [status]=permanent         URL-path=/site/site         URL=http://www.website.org/site/site"
[11:03] <sokoll> right
[11:03] <sokoll> the URL-Path bit is not clear at all
[11:03] <sokoll> I understand now
[11:03] <TJ-> sokoll: And as I said earlier, that line needs to be before the Redirect that matches on URL-path "/" otherwise it may never get read by the server
[11:03] <sokoll> but looking at the documentation, it's not clear to me
[11:04] <sokoll> TJ-: thank you.
[11:04] <ObrienDave> you'll get it eventually :)
[11:05] <WXZ> I need an audio player that can show cue markers
[11:05] <TJ-> sokoll: Thank goodness you weren't really needing to work on mod_rewrite rules!
[11:05] <WXZ> preferably you can press "back to last cue" or something similar
[11:05] <TJ-> sokoll: They scare even the professionals at times :)
[11:06] <sokoll> TJ-: I am a professional... lol. I'm an IT sys admin
[11:06] <sokoll> I've only been doing this for 3 months though.. before it was all windows admin
[11:06] <TJ-> o.O
[11:07] <sokoll> now I'm almost entirely linux
[11:07]  * Capprentice is away: I'm busy
[11:07] <sokoll> so most of this is brand new to me
[11:07] <noitam> Is there a way to open Nautilus in the foreground when I call it from the terminal?
[11:07] <TJ-> sokoll: I've always found apache's documentation to be about the best... you definitely need to practice your parsing of it if you find it difficult to fathom
[11:07] <noitam> "nautilus" opens Nautilus window in the background.
[11:08] <andlabs|2> different question: is there a way to exit lightdm so I can see the error messages hiding behind it? from the syststem bootup; there's more errors there
[11:08] <andlabs|2> no, dmesg does not show these
[11:08] <sokoll> definitely
[11:08] <Capprentice> noitam, I think nautilus -d runs nautilus as daemon ?!
[11:08] <sokoll> TJ-: well, thank you for your help
[11:08] <sokoll> TJ-: it is highly appreciated
[11:09] <noitam> Capprentice, what do you mean?
[11:10] <ObrienDave> noitam, that is a windows manager "focus" setting, iirc
[11:10] <eeee> noitam: type nautilus -w
[11:10] <eeee> it'll open a new window
[11:11] <noitam> eeee, does not work.
[11:11] <eeee> what do you mean? it's not what you want or .. ?
[11:11] <noitam> I can switch of "Focus stealing prevention" in CCSM. But should I do this? It's "Low" by default.
[11:12] <TJ-> noitam: How about "nautilus && xdotool search --name nautilus windowraise" ?
[11:12] <andlabs|2> meh, I'll come back later; will rest a bit longer first; thanks in the meantime for all the help
[11:12] <JediMaster> *sigh* the same day that ubuntu releases critical MySQL security updates then an hour later release the bombshell that 13.10 is no longer supported, and therefore only 12.04 and 14.04 get the fix =/
[11:12] <dusf123> if i run windows 8.1 reset/refresh will it remove ubuntu?
[11:13] <TJ-> JediMaster: where is the bombshell? That has been well-known for over 12 months
[11:13] <cfhowlett> dusf123 no but it will write over grub so you willl not be able to BOOT ubuntu.   reinstall grub will fix IIRC
[11:13] <noitam> TJ-, not working.
[11:14] <dusf123> cfhowlett: i am setting up dual boot on a friend's laptop. i use clonezilla for my own but i would like a more user friendly way to restore windows 8.1 and ubuntu on my friend's laptop
[11:14] <TJ-> noitam: "not working" is not a useful description
[11:14] <dusf123> can you recommend something?
[11:14] <cfhowlett> JediMaster no bombshell detected.  13.10 's support dates are well known and publicized
[11:14] <JediMaster> TJ-, I was fully awear that the support was running out for 13.10, unfortunately I had assumed it was timed to be on the same day as the 14.04.1 LTS release next week
[11:15] <cfhowlett> dusf123 best I step away - no experience with UEFI or windows 8.*
[11:15] <mikedeep> hello everyone...
[11:15] <noitam> TJ-, Nautilus still opens in the background.
[11:15] <dusf123> cfhowlett: okay no problem. are you certain both refresh and reset on windows 8.1 will overwrite grub?
[11:15] <dusf123> that is refresh and reset are the different options
[11:15] <mikedeep> need to know if i can install ubuntu on hp 15 p001tx
[11:15] <mikedeep> will it give heating issues/?
[11:16] <TJ-> JediMaster: The policy is generally that support continues on a non-LTS for ~3 months after the next release.
[11:16] <cfhowlett> dusf123 certain?  nope.  still running win7 in my dualboot
[11:16] <ObrienDave> JediMaster, umm, 13.10 is still a supported version
[11:16] <dusf123> cfhowlett: i migth just do a quick dual boot and try the different options
[11:16] <TJ-> noitam: So you have got "xdotool" installed?
[11:16] <claudemir> teste
[11:16] <JediMaster> ObrienDave, not for security updates and fixes
[11:16] <noitam> TJ-, yes.
[11:16] <claudemir> test
[11:16] <dusf123> i am encouraging him to use ubuntu all of the time but i need to leave windows there in case he cannot run something on linux, or if there's a problem with linux he can just use windows etc
[11:16] <claudemir> good morning!
[11:17] <dusf123> at the same time i would like him to be able to easily restore both OS
[11:17] <cfhowlett> dusf123 virtualbox ...
[11:17] <dusf123> yes, and wine
[11:17] <dusf123> but believe me, both are much too complicated for him
[11:17] <ObrienDave> JediMaster, oh, it has been 9 months, *face palm* my mistake
[11:17] <k1l> ObrienDave: not since yesterday.
[11:17] <TJ-> noitam: Is that the only nautilus process? It could be because it doesn't know which nautilus process to raise, or it could be that Unity just doesn't obey the XDG conventions and API
[11:17] <JediMaster> ObrienDave, got the email yesterday =( "Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) End of Life reached on July 17 2014"
[11:17] <claudemir> have a tutorial how to install latex on ubuntu?
[11:17]  * cfhowlett @ ObrienDave "must not snark.  must not ..."
[11:18] <JediMaster> ObrienDave, yeah heh
[11:18] <cfhowlett> !info latex
[11:18] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, PFFFFFFFT!!!
[11:18] <claudemir> no??
[11:18] <eeee> noitam: you could nautilus -q && nautilus& , but that would close nautilus if you close the terminal
[11:18] <jonnydamnnox> hey JO
[11:18] <claudemir> synaptic??
[11:18] <noitam> TJ-, no other Nautilus windows are opened. But could you say if it's problematic to disable Focus Stealing Prevention mode in CCSM? That would fix my problem.
[11:18] <jonnydamnnox> I can't change the title dessctiption of an pdf file which is not writable, how can I change the file to writable?
[11:19] <noitam> But I don't know if I create new problems in the future.
[11:19]  * ObrienDave is way too tired and has had NOT enough coffee ;P
[11:19] <TJ-> noitam: I don't know if that is required by Unity... test it and see :)
[11:19] <JediMaster> does anyone know about the attack vector on this MySQL vulnerability release yesterday? (http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2291-1/)
[11:19] <noitam> TJ-, I will give it a try. Thanks.
[11:19] <mikedeep> hello can i install ubuntu on hp 15 p001tx without any heating issues?
[11:19] <eeee> noitam: if you use that command it will close nautilus windows that are open
[11:20] <eeee> before opening a new one
[11:20] <JediMaster> As far as I can see from Oracle they say it requires an "authenticated user", technically someone searching for something on a website using MySQL uses an authenticated user
[11:20] <TJ-> JediMaster: According to the CVE reports, Oracle haven't been forthcoming as to the exact vulnerability
[11:20] <JediMaster> TJ-, yes, that's what I had found
[11:20] <jonnydamnnox> how can I change rw-r-rr of a file to rw-rw-r ??
[11:20] <noitam> eeee, that's not a good choice in my view.
[11:20] <JediMaster> TJ-, however they highly recommend updating ASAP
[11:20] <jonnydamnnox> I need to change the title of a pdf file
[11:21] <JediMaster> TJ-, which sucks as I have about 30 servers to upgrade to 14.04 before I can get the fix
[11:21] <noitam> eeee, I disable Focus Stealing Prevention option. Should work.
[11:21] <JediMaster> I guess I'll be staying on 14.04 LTS for a long time
[11:21] <TJ-> JediMaster: Thank Oracle for being so into the F/OSS spirit :)
[11:22] <TJ-> JediMaster: servers should be on an LTS anyhow :)
[11:22] <cfhowlett> jonnydamnnox save a copy of the file, set permissions and rename.  done.
[11:22] <ObrienDave> JediMaster, i know i've had enough of the 6 month cycle, staying with LTS for the time being
[11:22] <eeee> noitam: ok
[11:22] <cfhowlett> !server|JediMaster
[11:23] <JediMaster> cfhowlett, this *is* ubuntu 13.10 server
[11:23] <cfhowlett> JediMaster I was gently suggesting you consult the #ubuntu-server channel.  :)
[11:23] <ObrienDave> without being snarky ;P
[11:24] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave snark?  me?  perish the thought!
[11:24] <ObrienDave> rofl
[11:24] <JediMaster> cfhowlett, pretty sure MySQL is installable on the non-server install too =) but yes, I'll ask there too
[11:25] <TJ-> JediMaster: if you want stave off upgrading the servers immediately, I suppose you could create a minimal LXC container or chroot for Trusty mysql ;p
[11:25] <jonnydamnnox> oh well
[11:25] <jonnydamnnox> How can I change the freaking title desctiption of a pdf file??
[11:26] <JediMaster> TJ-, probably as much hassle as doing the upgrade, if not more, but good idea
[11:26] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, i must admit you have curbed your normal snarkyness :))
[11:26] <TJ-> jonnydamnnox: Presumably you'd need a PDF editor?
[11:26] <ObrienDave> jonnydamnnox, who owns the PDF? root?
[11:27] <jonnydamnnox> I use adobe reader, I don't know how owns it
[11:27] <jonnydamnnox> ah me
[11:28] <jonnydamnnox> user
[11:28] <jonnydamnnox> group and own
[11:28] <ObrienDave> right click the file, select properties, permissions tab
[11:28] <jonnydamnnox> A guy sent me this file, I guess from a window machine
[11:28] <jonnydamnnox> I can't change that
[11:28] <TJ-> jonnydamnnox: You want to change the file-name, or the document title stored internally? If the latter, you'll need some PDF editor
[11:29] <jonnydamnnox> the title internally
[11:29] <jonnydamnnox> hhm
[11:29] <ObrienDave> because you're using adobe reader to view it.
[11:29] <jonnydamnnox> can you suggest a good editor??
[11:29] <jonnydamnnox> ok wait, I use the internet ^^
[11:30] <ObrienDave> LibreOffice Write can edit it, i think
[11:31] <maxvi> how can I view .plt file?
[11:31] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave nope.  writer will not edit .pdf
[11:32] <MonkeyDust> maxvi  what's a .plt file?
[11:33] <ObrienDave> maxvi, is that a plotter file?
[11:34] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, writer imports the PDF but is pretty bad at the embedded fonts
[11:36] <Zumo> Hi!
[11:36] <maxvi> ObrienDave: yes
[11:36] <maxvi> ObrienDave: that is a plotter file
[11:37] <ObrienDave> maxvi, you need something that will read HPGL ascii
[11:38] <jonnydamnnox> Ahh worked with libre office
[11:38] <jonnydamnnox> GEEE
[11:38] <jonnydamnnox> THX
[11:38] <maxvi> ObrienDave: I want to open this file like dxf to see the lines may be I can convert plt to dxf with some ubuntu package
[11:39] <jonnydamnnox> But, something else changed
[11:39] <jonnydamnnox> GRR
[11:39] <ObrienDave> maxvi, not sure but you might try hp2xx in the repos
[11:40] <colonolGlon> hi guys, flashed a usb drive with the ubuntu mac image
[11:40] <colonolGlon> but the boot process hangs at the point where i see a violet screen and the keyboard and person and the bottom
[11:40] <fidel_> sorry - but what is the "ubuntu mac image" ?
[11:40] <TJ-> jonnydamnnox: You might try master pdf editor: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/master-pdf-editor/
[11:41] <colonolGlon> fidel_: the http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop there is a 64 bit mac image to download ;)
[11:41] <jonnydamnnox> yes but I can't download master pdf editor via synaptics software center
[11:42] <fidel_> colonolGlon: the one which you should use if the x86 didnt work?
[11:42] <wolf__> soft in synaptic is too old
[11:42] <joe-w-bimedina> how can I change the delay of the bottom "hot corner"   that opens the notification area in Ubuntu 14.04 Gnome 3
[11:42] <jonnydamnnox> hm
[11:42] <colonolGlon> ikonia: did it hang at that point for you too?
[11:42] <wolf__> just open official web
[11:42] <colonolGlon> fidel_: so i should have tried the other first?...
[11:42] <jonnydamnnox> well ok
[11:43] <colonolGlon> people in here told me the mac is a different platform so a different iso is available too..
[11:43] <fidel_> colonolGlon: if its an intel mac-  i would personaly try first the normal x86 image yes - but havent messed around for a long time with linux on macs
[11:43] <ObrienDave> wolf__, ROFL packages in synaptic come from the same repos as software center
[11:43] <colonolGlon> fidel_: okay, i'll try the other one
[11:43] <fidel_> colonolGlon: apart from that - if you see a purple screen - that means that the image was at least properly copied to the usb-device - otherwise it couldnt start booting from it
[11:43] <eeee> colonolGlon: did you checksum ?
[11:44] <colonolGlon> eeee: i didnt
[11:44] <wolf__> I have installed mpdf from official web
[11:44] <colonolGlon> i just followed the description on the page
[11:44] <eeee> first things first, checksum..
[11:44] <fidel_> my guess: boot parameters - but try it with the x86 release first
[11:45]  * ObrienDave @ cfhowlett, must. not, snark.
[11:45] <eeee> fidel_: not true, he could have missing part of the image and still install the OS, and end up with a "lemon OS" that doesn't work and has missing libs etc.
[11:46] <fidel_> eeee: true - your checksum argument is valid. still the boot process at least started - which means what itold above ..right? ;)
[11:46] <ObrienDave> colonolGlon, checksum is 99.999999% guaranteed to be the best way to check the D/L
[11:47] <colonolGlon> i see
[11:47] <eeee> fidel_: just cause it boots it doesn't mean it isn't missing a file or too and its hanging cause of it..
[11:47] <fidel_> eeee: i know that
[11:47] <eeee> colonolGlon: if you want just run the integrity check on the live usb
[11:47] <fidel_> and i agreed already
[11:48] <eeee> fidel_: you mean to say, the image he has was properly copied, but could be a damaged image ?
[11:48] <cfhowlett> wolf__ http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/pdfimport
[11:49] <jonnydamnnox> YEA worked, master pdf editor is really a master I guess
[11:49] <jonnydamnnox> awkward installation but ok
[11:49] <jonnydamnnox> thx and byebye
[11:50] <fidel_> eeee: i was focusing on that part of the process where some users might already make mistakes while trying to create a bootable usb-stick. but - feel free to continue arguing - i am not ;)
[11:50] <wolf__> hi cfhowlett
[11:51] <eeee> fidel_: i'm not arguing at all, just clarifying...
[11:51] <wolf__> I think masterpdf is the best
[11:51] <wolf__> at least for me
[11:54] <cfhowlett> wolf work with what works for you.
[11:56] <DdevNull> can sumone help me with ratpoison?
[12:00] <wolf__> http://www.wiznote.com/download/
[12:00] <Brace> TJ-: I ended up backing up and removing .gconf and .config and letting Ubuntu recreate them and it's an improvement, but still after 10-15 minutes or so (just this user and on any PC) it all locks up
[12:01] <TJ-> Brace: Do they have plugins or some auto-run processes?
[12:01] <cfhowlett> Brace (obvious question perhaps) what is different about this user?  Hardware?  software or ^^^
[12:02] <cfhowlett> Brace also: verify that your user hasn't installed some weird ***t
[12:02] <TJ-> cfhowlett: This is a roaming profile across multiple PCs. All other profiles operate correctly, as does a Guest login. There's something in the user's profile causing unity to misbehave, which a --reset hasn't fixed.
[12:02] <Brace> cfhowlett: they don't have access to sudo, so can't have done that
[12:03] <Brace> cfhowlett: we don't use anything that 'weird' but we do use some old software eg gv and stuff like that
[12:04] <Brace> however it's certainly worth looking to see if there's anything odd on the machine from that pov
[12:04] <TJ-> Brace: the fact that you improved the situation by removing .{gconf,conf} shows it is something they've done
[12:04] <Brace> TJ-: possibly
[12:05] <Brace> TJ-: the other thing is that the homedirs are pretty crufty these days, there's a lot of dotfiles and crud in them
[12:06] <TJ-> Brace: I agree, bain of my life
[12:06] <TJ-> Brace: I noticed there's a ".local/share/unity-webapps"
[12:08] <Brace> TJ-: I'm seriously thinking about just taking all the user data out of the homedir and clearing it out
[12:08] <Brace> see if that helps
[12:09] <TJ-> Brace: have you checked "~/.xsession-errors" ?
[12:09] <cyber37_> Hi guy's ! I need a big help ! my wifi is BROKEN, but he works with a LIVE CD !
[12:09] <cyber37_> I cant see the wlan0 interface
[12:10] <cyber37_> I don't see the interface in ifconfig, and cant do ifconfig wlan0 up
[12:10] <cyber37_> wlan0: ERREUR en récupérant les signaux de l'interface: Aucun périphérique de ce type
[12:11] <Brace> TJ-: yeah, I've looked at that, but there's just a bunch of DEBUG and a few WARNING messages in there
[12:11] <cyber37_> I have try tweaking with rfkill it doesn't help :/
[12:11] <MonkeyDust> cyber37_  try iwconfig
[12:12] <Brace> TJ-: I'm never sure with logs like that, when I've looked at working examples, they're always filled with loads of errors
[12:17] <cyber37_> iwconfig just see lo and eth0
[12:17] <cyber37_> My wlan0 interface is "not present" ... But she worked on the morning .. and with a live USB she works ..
[12:17] <cyber37_> Maybe something is disabled
[12:19] <cyber37_> I have do something with modprob on the morning for CAn interface
[12:20] <cyber37_> Is it possible that i have removed something essential .?
[12:20] <cfhowlett> cyber37_ modprobe could indeed have disabled essential pieces
[12:21] <cyber37_> ls /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel I have nothing in that.
[12:22] <cyber37_> did you have something in that folder ?
[12:22] <rtl8188ce> hello, can anyone help me with a possible wi-fi driver issue ?
[12:23] <cyber37_> ok dudes, me i am watching for copy all of my important datas, and full reinstallation of ubuntu would be a good choice :D
[12:24] <rtl8188ce> i still have this fluctuation in my wireless speed and signal
[12:24] <rtl8188ce> which i do not get with suse, with the same hardware
[12:26] <rtl8188ce> i want to use ubuntu but i need to get rid of this fluctuation first. anyone had similar problem with RTL8188CE WiFi Adapter and manage to solve it ?
[12:27] <ObrienDave> rtl8188ce, does it cause connection issues?
[12:27] <fff> bonjour.
[12:28] <cfhowlett> !fr|fff
[12:28] <rtl8188ce> it does, my transfer graph is a fuzzy wave, it goes up to max and hit back to min, sometimes even cancelling big downloads
[12:28] <fff> merci.
[12:28] <quem> what
[12:29] <rtl8188ce> pings to my own router dances in between 1000ms and 10ms
[12:30] <ObrienDave> dang, my bed time, hope you get it fixed
[12:31] <shekhu> Hey there!
[12:31] <function9> hi
[12:33] <shekhu> I have to download a file from remote location to my local machine. I do not have the server password, I use ssh key to connect. Is there a way to scp without using remote password and by using ssh key authentication?
[12:34] <txspud> shekhu, yes with an authorized_keys file on the other end that has your ssh public key
[12:35] <txspud> Anyone have an opinion on ksplice, positive or negative, other than it's produced/promoted by oracle?
[12:35] <shekhu> thanks for the tip txspud, I am relatively new to this and dont want to screw up my client's server. Can you give more details about it..
[12:40] <txspud> shekhu, What I recommend is that you edit your public key, remove the @<hostname> after your username, then copy it to a file called authorized_keys2, which you put in your .ssh directory under your home account on the remote machine. Ensure the permissions are correct and execute ssh <machinename> date. If it prompts for a password then your permissions are probably not correct
[12:40] <Dave404> Could someone help me with an upgrade from 10.04 server? Here's the issue I'm having: http://pastebin.com/GHtY9mcm
[12:41] <zane> Hi
[12:42] <shekhu> Thanks txspud, looks like this should work.
[12:43] <txspud> shekhu, np, good luck
[12:46] <Dave404> Could someone help me with an upgrade from 10.04 server? Here's the issue I'm having: http://pastebin.com/GHtY9mcm
[12:49] <emx> how do i start another instance of program over unity when i don't have a middle mouse button?
[12:49] <emx> *of a
[12:49] <function9> Dave404: have you tried in #ubuntu-server
[12:49] <AnoJones> Hi, last night I started upgrading my ubuntu 13.10 to 14.04, and when done(still in what looked like a 13.10 screen), I did shutdown and went to sleep. When trying to boot now, I get a black screen (waited for like 2 minutes). I tried booting to recovery, and the last message (which seems stuck) was: "vesafb module verification failed signature and/or required key missing - tainted kernel".
[12:50] <AnoJones> (I am now talking from the windows OS, dual booting)
[12:50] <Dave404> function9: nope, didn't know it existed. Thanks!
[12:50] <yoko54> are there any skype alternatives?
[12:51] <DJones> !ekiga | yoko54
[12:51] <eeee> emx: shift+alt+<appnumber>
[12:51] <eeee> emx:  i mean shift + super + appnumber
[12:51] <yoko54> thank you
[12:52] <DJones> yoko54: Ekiga is an alternative, if you mean something that can use skype services but isn't skype, in that case I'm not sure
[12:52] <emx> eeee, which version of ubunut? 12.10 seems a bit too old :P
[12:52] <AnoJones> anyone? :S
[12:52] <yoko54> i am not able to add skype friends right?
[12:52] <eeee> 14.04 here
[12:52] <DJones> yoko54: As far as I know you can't
[12:52] <yoko54> ok
[12:52] <emx> eeee, right click helps ^^
[12:53] <DJones> yoko54: Its two competing services
[12:53] <eeee> emx: if you have right click just right click and New ...
[12:53] <emx> eeee, figured it out. thanks.
[12:56] <andlabs|2> Hi. After updating last night and this morning, X11 crashes when I try to log in to most sessions on my username. Guest sessions work fine. How do I fix this? Thanks.
[12:57] <sk04l> After this latest ubuntu upgrade everytime I boot up I get a message that says "Could not apply the stored configuration for monitors requested" error and it doesn't go to my desktop or nothing. I can't get to a term or anything like that after i log in it just hangs there
[12:57] <eeee> andlabs|2: try removing the conf file, rename it
[12:57] <andlabs|2> which conf file
[12:58] <shekhu> Hello txspud, so after adding my public key in authorize_keys I did this: scp path/to/file /my/local/directory
[12:58] <sk04l> i renamed my monitors.xml file and now it boots up with the default ubuntu screen and lines run up and down like my video driver is hosed but it doesn't completly boot up
[12:59] <txspud> shekhu, and?
[12:59] <andlabs|2> eeee: which conf file?
[13:00] <shekhu> it says "cannot create regular file `/my/local/directory': No such file or directory"which means it is searching the directory in the remote server itself.
[13:00] <shekhu> not on my machine.
[13:02] <TJ-> shekhu: I think you're meant to replace "path/to/file" and "/my/local/directory" with the actual directories on your local and remote PCs
[13:03] <shekhu> yeah TJ-  I am doing that only, typed it here for people to get the actual context.
[13:03] <TJ-> shekhu: That actually confuses us more, since we may spot a syntax or typo error in the real command
[13:04] <shekhu> Ah, alright so I shall paste the exact command I ran.
[13:04] <shekhu> scp /var/www/sites/default.tar.gz /home/shekhu/files
[13:04] <TJ-> shekhu: for example "/my/local/directory" as a remote URL is incorrect: it has the form [user@]<remote-host-or-ip>:[path/to/file]
[13:04] <manager> where can i find a good guide on rc commands its my first time ta
[13:04] <andlabs|2> blah, gotta head out, sorry
[13:05] <Tradou> Hello
[13:05] <shekhu> true, so tj, what I have to do is to ssh from remote to my local machine. I have added the ssh key in authorize_keys
[13:05] <TJ-> shekhu: or if you have the remote host already defined in ~/.ssh/config you can refer to the remote host just with it's "Host"  name
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> manager  you mean lik ein .bashrc ?
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> like in*
[13:06] <TJ-> shekhu: you are already connected to the remote by SSH, and want to run the command from there?
[13:06] <manager> +i
[13:06] <shekhu> yes, I am connected to remote and want to download a file from there to my local machine.
[13:06] <TJ-> shekhu: Or, you want to run the command on the local machine to fetch the file from the remote?
[13:07] <shekhu> I do not have the password I access it via ssh key
[13:07] <TJ-> shekhu: The way I'd do it is "scp <remote-host>:/var/www/sites/default.tar.gz /home/shekhu/files/"
[13:07] <shekhu> this command will ask for password, which I do not have,
[13:07] <TJ-> shekhu: no, it won't
[13:08] <TJ-> shekhu: It'll only ask for a password if you haven't correctly shared your local public key with the remote host.
[13:08] <TJ-> shekhu: if, on the other hand, you can't share your local public key, and need to reverse it, then assuming you're shared the remote host's public key with the local host, then you just reverse the command to run it on the remote host
[13:09] <TJ-> shekhu: The way I'd do it is "scp /var/www/sites/default.tar.gz <remote-host>:/home/shekhu/files/"
[13:10] <shekhu> it is asking for password.
[13:10] <sk04l> so after lastnights upgrade my desktop doesn't boot. It prompts for a password I type it in and it just sits there with default screen.... anyone have any idea what I can do ???
[13:10] <TJ-> shekhu: If the remote host is connected back to the same user name on your local PC that'll work
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> manager  start here http://www.ircbeginner.com/ircinfo/ircc-commands.html
[13:10] <TJ-> shekhu: But, if you have a different username on the local PC you'll need to provide that too:
[13:10] <manager> thanks MOnkeyDust!
[13:10] <TJ-> shekhu:  "scp /var/www/sites/default.tar.gz shekhu@<remote-host>:files/"
[13:11] <shekhu> I have added my public key in .ssh/authorized_keys
[13:12] <sk04l> where would i even start trying to look to see what is happeniong?
[13:13] <shekhu> remote host is my local machine. I am getting connection refused. Probably my service provider doesnt allow that when I do "scp /var/www/sites/default.tar.gz shekhu@<remote-host>:files/" I found my remote host IP by using google
[13:13] <sk04l> anyone able to help me?? I'm hosed without my computer here
[13:13] <TJ-> shekhu: You need to be more specific. "my public key" applies to which PC, which user? Which user and PC is the ".ssh/authorized_keys" you edited?
[13:14] <TJ-> shekhu: Is your local PC behind a router/firewall?
[13:15] <shekhu> I added pubic key of my local machine (where I want to download files) to the authoized_keys files of remote server (where the default.tar.gz file is present)
[13:15] <shekhu> yes I am behind router
[13:15] <TJ-> shekhu: If so it'll need a port-forwarding rule adding
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> sk04l  ctrl-alt F1 > enter password > work from there .... start with sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade;sudo apt-get autoremove
[13:16] <sk04l> MonkeyDust: k let me try
[13:17] <TJ-> shekhu: this is why we usually connect from the home network to the remote when using ssh
[13:17] <TJ-> shekhu: if you've SSHed to the remote from your local PC, then why can you not scp too?
[13:18] <lmat> When I click "System Settings" then "All Settings", only about 5 categories show up :(
[13:18] <sk04l> MonkeyDust,  it did a few things. Seemed mostly mysql stuff.. should i give it a reboot
[13:18] <shekhu> That's what even I am wondering. I was able to ssh without any password but scp is asking for it. My first hunch is that I am doing something wrong with the scp command.
[13:18] <lmat> Also, my clock disappeared (in the upper right). Does anyone know how to get the other settings (and the clock for that matter) back ?
[13:18] <Ramster> shekhu: do you have ssh port set to default or not? sorry for jumping in guys just an thought
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> sk04l  yes, try that
[13:20] <shekhu> Ramster: I also specified the port.
[13:20] <sk04l> MonkeyDust: Still nothing. Just boots to an empty desktop after i log in.
[13:20] <Ramster> ok i had smilar problem not so long ago too and i had to specify custom ssh port for scp
[13:21] <sk04l> any other idfeas? will there be a log file with some info somewhere?
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> !dmesg | try this
[13:24] <sk04l> nothing I can see or tell looks to bad... wtf.. second time i run an ubuntu upgrade it destroys my computer
[13:25] <Ramster> sheku: this is what worked for me with custom SSH port(3546): scp -P 3546  /local/file/location user@host:/var/www/file.png
[13:25] <lmat> freaking crap... when I click "sound settings" from the bar on the top, it takes me to the gimpy "system settings" window (which doesn't have sound as a possible setting!!)
[13:25] <lmat> not cool
[13:26] <nicolas__> probleme sur you tube
[13:26] <lmat> nicolas__: No, it has nothing to do with youtube
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> !fr | nicolas__
[13:26] <lmat> It's almost like I have very strictly limited permissions? I'm the only user though
[13:26] <nicolas__> join ubuntu-fr
[13:27] <nicolas__> probleme sur youtube
[13:27] <nicolas__> de cryptage
[13:28] <Pici> nicolas__: veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr
[13:28] <MonkeyDust> nicolas__  type /j #ubuntu-fr
[13:28] <lmat> I just typed `gnome-control-center sound` and it did the same thing
[13:28] <lmat> HEY!  "Could not find settings panel "sound" "
[13:28] <sk04l> MonkeyDust, : Do you have any other suggestions what I can possibly try here?
[13:29] <andlabs> Hi again
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> sk04l  last wild thought: make sure no partition is 100% full, especially /   -- after that i'm out of ideas
[13:29] <andlabs> Just saying that the problem /was/ with lightdm after all, as I'm back in my KDE session via gdm. Too bad gdm is slow... Thanks anyway!
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[13:30] <sk04l> nope partitions are not full
[13:30] <sk04l> won't x give me some type of an error message or something in a log file???
[13:30] <sk04l> what the heck should i do?
[13:30] <andlabs> and heading out, bbl
[13:31] <shekhu> hey ramster thanks but it didnt work as well. I am downloading a file from remote to local machine.
[13:32] <shekhu> my meeting is due in an hour.. am screwed lol
[13:33] <eeee> shekhu: what's the problem?
[13:34] <Pici> 70
[13:34] <eeee> if you cant fetch it from the remote one, dont you have ssh on your local machine?
[13:35] <eeee> (to send it there from the local machine)
[13:35] <shekhu> I am downloading a file from remote to local machine. I have already set the ssh keys of my local machine on the remote server..scp is still asking for password.
[13:36] <shekhu> I can ssh without any problem
[13:36] <eeee> shekhu: to your local machine ?
[13:36] <shekhu> yes to my system.. I want to download a file from remote to my system
[13:37] <shekhu> I tried scp -p 2222 user@remote-host:public_html_y.tar.gz shekhu@Tyler-Durden/home/shekhu/
[13:37] <eeee> so just scp /file/to/send user@host-local-machine:/home/blabla/
[13:38] <eeee> shekhu: use scp on the terminal in the remote machine
[13:38] <Pici> shekhu: if is to your local system, then you only need to do: scp -p 2222 user@remote-host:public_html_y.tar.gz /home/shekhu/
[13:38] <Pici> No need to use scp from the remote system....
[13:38] <eeee> Pici: he has a problem, he doesn't have the password and he isn't getting the public keys to work
[13:39] <shekhu> Pici the command you suggested gives /home/shekhu/: No such file or directory ..which means remote is searching for this folder there itself, not my local.
[13:40] <shekhu> I have to find a way to specify my hostname to the remote so that it identified my local machine.
[13:40] <Ramster> shekhu: did you use a capital -P ?
[13:40] <lmat> Oh, but   sudo gnome-control-center sound; "works"
[13:41] <edition> hello!
[13:41] <Pici> shekhu: no,you don't need to do that.  1) make sure that you provide the absolute path to public_html_y.tar.gz in the command 2) the second half of the command refers to local computer. Make sure that path exists.
[13:42] <lmat> I think I found the problem.
[13:42] <lmat> http://askubuntu.com/questions/287181/only-root-sees-all-icons-in-gnome-control-center-after-upgrade-to-lubuntu-13-04
[13:42] <lmat> Suggests that I apt-get install unity-control-center. I did that, and noticed a bunch of "evolution" stuff.
[13:42] <lmat> Earlier, I had removed evolution, which probably removed unity-control-center, et allii.
[13:43] <lmat> okay, now gnome-control-center does what it is supposed to
[13:43] <shekhu> I tried capital P
[13:44] <shekhu> Pici: did as you suggested scp -P 2222 /home/qa/public_html_y.tar.gz /home/shekhu/Builtinfiles/
[13:44] <shekhu> I get the error message: cp: cannot create regular file `/home/shekhu/Builtinfiles/': No such file or directory
[13:45] <shekhu> remote is still tring to create the folder in itself
[13:45] <Pici> shekhu: like this? scp -P 2222 user@remote-host:/home/qa/public_html_y.tar.gz /home/shekhu/Builtinfiles/
[13:45] <shekhu> copy the file in itself.*
[13:46] <shekhu> this accept the connection on port 22 but asks for password.
[13:46] <shekhu>  scp -P 22 user@remote-host:/home/qa/public_html_y.tar.gz /home/shekhu/Builtinfiles/
[13:47] <lmat> Now I can get to the Time & Date settings, but everything is grayed out :(
[13:47] <lmat> I see that "Show a clock in the menu bar" is checked (and disabled), but there is no clock in the menu bar.
[13:50] <shekhu> Pici: scp -P 22 user@remote-host:/home/qa/public_html_y.tar.gz /home/shekhu/Builtinfiles/ asks for password
[13:51] <Pici> shekhu: how did you add your public key to the remote server?
[13:52] <shekhu> added in: .ssh/authorized_keys
[13:53] <shekhu> Pici: can do ssh without any problem as well
[13:53] <eeee> shekhu: if the meeting is in an hour, how big is the file btw?
[13:53] <Pici> shekhu: you can ssh as your user? or the user you are specifying in the scp command? or both?
[13:54] <shekhu> file is 3 GB, can make it before the meeting.
[13:54] <shekhu> I can ssh as my user not as a user I am specifying in scp.
[13:54] <shekhu> wait...
[13:54] <shekhu> I can ssh as the user I am specifying.
[13:55] <six86> Hello. I have a problem with upstart. I want to start a software when two can interfaces are available. But "start on (net-device-up IFACE=can0 and net-device-up IFACE=can1)" does not work. Am I doing something wrong here?!
[13:55] <shekhu> I can login as user I am specifying in scp (qa) not as my local machine user (shekhu)
[13:56] <eeee> shekhu: i was thinking if you dont have much time you could just use a free shell as a middle man
[13:56] <shekhu> eeee: yup I can give it a shot
[13:56] <eeee> shekhu: try this in the remote host terminal: scp /file/to/send user@host-local-machine:/home/blabla/
[13:57] <eeee> try that first though
[13:57] <Pici> shekhu: Does using -v give any extra info?
[13:57] <Pici> well.. I mean info that looks helpful
[13:59] <shekhu> Pici: executing scp -v /var/www/sites/default.tar.gz shekhu@Tyler-Durden:/home/shekhu/Builtinfiles gives this: OpenSSH_6.0p1 Debian-4, OpenSSL 1.0.1e 11 Feb 2013 debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug1: /etc/ssh/ssh_config line 19: Applying options for * ssh: Could not resolve hostname Tyler-Durden: Name or service not known lost connection
[14:00] <eeee> shekhu: give it the IP address of your local machine
[14:00] <eeee> instead of Tyler...
[14:01] <shekhu> eeee: tried. connection refused. I am behind a router
[14:03] <|Frodo|> hello! I want to install "mutt" on kubuntu 12.04 LTS. for sending mails I have installed "msmtp" but the mutt packet still wants to have "postfix". can  I deny to install postfix in my case? and, if I accept to install postfix (that I don't want to use) it shows me a configuration screen. wich option is correct for me: noconfig, only local mail or should I press "cancel"?
[14:03] <Brace> TJ-: I've ended up creating a blank homedir and switching the user to that and so far, touch wood it's ok
[14:03] <eeee> shekhu: i think i got it
[14:04] <eeee> shekhu: run the command Pici gave you, the one that had -P 2222, but remove the last "/" after Builtin...
[14:04] <Pici> |Frodo|: try: sudo apt-get --no-install-recommends install mutt
[14:05] <shekhu> eeee: This? scp -P 2222 user@remote-host:/home/qa/public_html_y.tar.gz /home/shekhu/Builtinfiles
[14:05] <eeee> yes
[14:05] <|Frodo|> Pici: you mean, it is save to install mutt without postfix but with msmtp!?
[14:06] <shekhu> eeee: this asks for password too
[14:06] <eeee> wasn't it erroring out file not found?
[14:06] <Pici> |Frodo|: yes.
[14:07] <shekhu> eeee: it happens when I do not give host and username. Asks for password everytime I give hostname.
[14:07] <eeee> shekhu: i tried it here and if the directory isn't created, the last "/" wont let it work
[14:07] <TJ-> Brace: what a pain... I suggest installing every form of logging/monitoring of that user to found out how they mess it up again later :)
[14:08] <shekhu> eeee: the directory is created on my local.
[14:08] <shekhu> is there any permission which needs to be set to do scp?
[14:08] <geeerot> #archlinux Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with
[14:08] <geeerot>           services
[14:09] <Pici> !register | geeerot
[14:09] <erobinson> Hi everyone happy friday!
[14:09] <shekhu> if I have ssh access and can do it without any problem why is it not allowing me to do scp?
[14:09] <shekhu> thanks erobinson and same to you.
[14:10] <Brace> TJ-: I suspect that ~8 years of cruft has just caused some weirdness to creep in somewhere along the line
[14:11] <Brace> TJ-: thanks for your help :D
[14:11] <shekhu> thanks for the help guys I shall try more.
[14:12] <WXZ> I need an audio editor that supports wav files with cue
[14:13] <|Frodo|> vel clientcrap,clientnotices,modes,joins,parts,quits
[14:13] <|Frodo|> sorry
[14:13] <FuzzyWhirlpool> audacity will do the audio editing tasks.
[14:16] <user258467> Does ubuntu is encrypted by default I believe I configure when installing it but I am not sure?
[14:16] <Pici> user258467: you can configure it at install time.
[14:17] <eeee> shekhu: im looking into scp -3
[14:17] <user258467> Pici, thanks a lot so I am nearly sure I do it how could I verfy that?
[14:17] <Pici> user258467: start the install? check the install docs?
[14:17] <APV> My cooling fan started to works only on minimal speed and does not speed up when cpu gets hot, otherwise, everything is ok, the sound of fan did not change. Any ideas what is the cause/how to fix it?
[14:18] <shekhu> thanks for helping eeee
[14:21] <MoonSlime> quit
[14:21] <Kiryx> Hello
[14:21] <AskSteve> Hello
[14:22] <Kiryx> I have a very strange behavior with g++ 4.8.2-19ubuntu1 compiler, and basically any ubuntu-flavored version of it since something like ubuntu 11.4 or so
[14:23] <ls_-l_gms_ytv> are ubuntu graphics driuvers 'smart' enough to realize my screen was only 720 p max so it limited operation intentionally of video play back so i would keep the settings at 720?
[14:24] <Kiryx> Namely, when compiling a particular software package on ubuntu I need to manually alter the order of the libraries during linking in the makefile file
[14:24] <Kiryx> and Ubuntu seems to be the only linux distro which contains this strange behaviour
[14:24] <FuzzyWhirlpool>  hello
[14:25] <user39202> I'm having problems with alsamixer muting the volume on reboot.   Also when I increase the volume then enter "sudo alsactl store 0", it says:  Home directory not accessible: Permission denied.
[14:28] <FuzzyWhirlpool>  Kiryx , you should do `apt-get build-dep ` before compiling software to resolve the build dependencies.
[14:29] <nicholasdipiazza> Hi everyone. Does anyone here know if there are any plans to fix Ubuntu 14 + XRDP + Gnome -session? It stopped working on 14.x. Works fine on 12.x.
[14:29] <nicholasdipiazza> about to put 30 ubuntu 14's on some computers but that is blocking me pretty good
[14:30] <pyrohdezo> Hii
[14:32] <nicholasdipiazza> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/1251281
[14:33] <Mausolus> evening. left laptop unattended for a while it was upgrading to 14.04. now the screen is apparently locked, and unresponsive (= the login dialog doesn't show up when I try hitting keys). managed ctrl-alt-f1 into tty1 and thus here, though. any pointers?
[14:33] <FuzzyWhirlpool>  nicholasdipiazza , great! You've reported the problem. Now just be patient to wait for Canonical people to fix the problem.
[14:33] <nicholasdipiazza> FuzzyWhirlpool: interested in seeing where it is at so i can contribute if possible
[14:35] <smekk> \quit
[14:35] <Psi-Jack> I see that Ubuntu 14.04 has /some/ parts of systemd, but not all.?
[14:39] <ForSpareParts> Is it possible to get VDPAU support using the proprietary (fglrx) AMD video driver?
[14:39] <ubunoob_> Noob Q: is there a viable reason to leave the write cache option disabled for an internal hdd (laptop)?
[14:40] <ForSpareParts> I see a lot of people talking online about VAAPI backends for VDPAU, and some chatter about an XVBA backend, too. But I’m not sure how to get it set up, or even if I can, with fglrx.
[14:42] <FuzzyWhirlpool> Yeah, I wonder why graphic drivers on Linux kernel are buggy. Do the vendors make the graphics hardware especially for MS platforms?
[14:43] <neldogz> does anyone know if rsync will recopy all files everytime you run it unless you specify the --ignore-existing parameter?
[14:44] <FuzzyWhirlpool> Or maybe it's about Linux which doesn't enforce vendors to release source code of their drivers - so that they release binary drivers whirch can't be audited.
[14:45] <IceBot3000> FuzzyWhirlpool: Windows drivers are the primary focus, because it has a far larger marketshare plus PC gaming is a large motivator
[14:45] <FuzzyWhirlpool>  neldogz, have you read rsync manual?
[14:48] <neldogz> FuzzyWhirlPool: yes but i guess i dont understand fully
[14:49] <neldogz> I am used to Robocopy from Microsoft where the /mir switch just skips over anything that already exists.. i am trying to create an equivalent using rsync
[14:49] <neldogz> rsync -rltDvi --progress --ignore-existing --delete --log-file=/home/user1/Desktop/MIR/rsync_NetBackup /media/user1/Data-931GB-NTFS/NetBackup/ '/media/user1/WD-1.8ExFat/NetBackup/'
[14:49] <neldogz> thats what i have so far
[14:49] <FuzzyWhirlpool> Oh, the Robust File Copier program to copy files over network.
[14:50] <neldogz> i am using the -rltDvi switches instead of -a because i am copying to an ExFat partition
[14:50] <Guest7706> i installed nvidia 340.24 on my ubuntu 14.04 and then screen is balck after restarting    why ?
[14:50] <FuzzyWhirlpool> rsync, the Remote Synchronization should be able to do the job.
[14:51] <StartButtonFTW> anyone know how to force alsamixer to unmute upon reboot?
[14:51] <GreatPotato> Is there an easy way to downgrade PHP5.5 to 5.4 in Ubuntu 14.04?
[14:52] <FuzzyWhirlpool> Guest7706: because nvidia binary drivers are buggy. Go with nouveau instead.
[14:52] <IceBot3000> FuzzyWhirlpool: You have no idea of the issue, it's probably not that the drivers are simply "buggy"
[14:53] <neldogz> FuzzuWhirlpool; remote synchronization?
[14:53] <OliPicard> Greetings all. Quick question. How do you setup UFW to accept inbound port 80 connections via a single ip address?
[14:54] <OliPicard> i am using the following commands ufw allow from [IP
[14:54] <OliPicard> ] to www which is causing me to get an invaild destination message.
[14:55] <FuzzyWhirlpool>  OliPicard, have you read ufw manual?
[14:55] <sasuke> hi all, i was unable to connect to my device, can anybody help me out please
[14:55] <OliPicard> Yup been reading the ubuntu wiki and digital ocean's article too.
[14:56] <OliPicard> "invaild destination address" is the error.
[14:56] <FuzzyWhirlpool> I mean `man ufw` output.
[14:57] <cfhowlett> !details| sasuke
[14:57] <Guest7706> what is nouveau ?
[14:57] <cfhowlett> !info nouveau
[14:58] <cfhowlett> Guest7706 nvidia video driver
[14:58] <sasuke> it was trying to connect but it is saying "stream setup is failed"
[14:58] <Guest7706> which can i install on my ubuntu ?
[14:58] <FuzzyWhirlpool> !info nouveau-firmware | Guest7706
[14:59] <OliPicard> FuzzyWhirlpool: I have just seen a manual just tried this command.  sudo ufw allow from [IP] to port tcp/80 however it's coming back invaild also tried other commands too.
[14:59] <FuzzyWhirlpool> !info xserver-xorg-video-nouveau | Guest7706
[15:00] <FuzzyWhirlpool> Have you enabled ufw?
[15:00] <OliPicard> bingo had to set the proto!
[15:01] <Guest7706> for ubuntu 14.04 ?
[15:01] <sasuke> apriciated if any help
[15:03] <FuzzyWhirlpool>  sasuke, what device do you have the problem with?
[15:03] <Busybyeski> hello, can anyone help me to use command line to sort a directory of directories by recursive filesize?
[15:03] <sasuke> FuzzyWhirlpool, how can i check that
[15:06] <sasuke> ??
[15:07] <Guest7706> ubuntu 14.04 after login crashed  why  ?
[15:08] <zacktu> My xubuntu 12.04 says that an update would require installation of untrusted packages such as linux headers, linux image, etc.  (3.2.0-67) -- what's going on?
[15:10] <SouL> Anyone knows how to setup a multiseat ubuntu? Easy. With an application or something=
[15:10] <StartButton> zacktu:  NSA trying to gain access again?
[15:10] <xangua> !gpgerr | zacktu
[15:11] <sasuke> hi dont know, what to do , but found this "http://pastebin.com/YVxuRBXe" on /var/log/syslog file.Anybody please help me
[15:12] <Guest7706> why ubuntu 14.04 after loging crashed /
[15:12] <Guest7706> ?
[15:13] <sasuke> Guest7706, whats happening .. did you find anything on the logs
[15:14] <zacktu> !gpgerr | zacktu
[15:15] <Guest7706> sasuke : i have to  after login Alt+ctrl+F1  and then sudo service lightdm restart
[15:17] <sasuke> Guest7706, i am not quite sure about it, but check this http://askubuntu.com/questions/449479/ubuntu-14-04-lts-crashes-after-login
[15:19] <Dave404> Oops, looks like it doesn't want to work without the regex flag: grep -rl "gupfiihzra" . | xargs sed -i -r 's/<\?php \$gupfiihzra.*\$cmhvuwnohn-1; \?>//'
[15:24] <liox_> hi
[15:24] <liox_> You can not give me a support to restore my VPS I use Ubuntu 04.12 with IPSConfig panel that ran apache 2.2 and php 5.3 then I upgraded to php 5.5 and apache automatically upgraded to 2.4 which broke all my virtual host with the message Forbidden You do not have permission to access / on this server. one example http://agenciazig.com.br/
[15:24] <liox_> ples help me =(
[15:24] <liox_> ops ubuntu 14.04
[15:24] <cfhowlett> !brazil|liox_
[15:33] <danileigh79> An6bod6y know if there is a way to auto-hide the launcher bar only if certain criteria are met, e.g. opening Chrome browser?
[15:44] <ik_> hi
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> hi ik_
[15:44] <ik_> how are you ?
[15:47] <OOOOOO> how do i make this game work  in dos box
[15:47] <OOOOOO> hi
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: which game?
[15:47] <cfhowlett> !details | OOOOOO
[15:47] <OOOOOO> street rod
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: why didnt you say that? why did you only say "this game"?
[15:48] <OOOOOO> i did not know if you knew what street rod was
[15:48] <OOOOOO> i just said this game
[15:48] <OOOOOO> i just merm in general
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: if you run the installer with dosbox it will mount the installer path as "C:"
[15:49] <OOOOOO> how do i do that i new to ubuntu
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: so (if you read the man page) you can set a folder as "C:" then set the install binary to be anoher drive letter
[15:49] <OOOOOO> i would know  his os if it was done for me
[15:49] <OOOOOO> i would not haft to touch a  key
[15:49] <ik_> how are you ?
[15:50] <OOOOOO> i dont know nothing
[15:50] <OOOOOO> about ubuntu
[15:50] <cfhowlett> !manual|OOOOOO I believe you.  read the manual.  come back later.
[15:50] <kostkon> OOOOOO, if you aren't familiar with dos and/or dosbox, then  try using a frontend like dbgl  http://members.quicknet.nl/blankendaalr/dbgl/
[15:50] <OOOOOO> i know some not all
[15:50] <ik_> mi neither
[15:51] <OOOOOO> to be honest i did not get arecovery cd with my computer and i had no os i have no other choice then this os
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: http://www.dosbox.com/wiki/Basic_Setup_and_Installation_of_DosBox   a quick websearch brings that up...have you seen that page?
[15:52] <OOOOOO> i like ubuntu some it has some features windows will never have  it faster too
[15:52] <OOOOOO> but i just dont uderstand it i read thing and the thing i read turn out to be e
[15:52] <OOOOOO> wro\ng
[15:53] <cfhowlett> OOOOOO install steam.  install steam games.  play.
[15:53] <OOOOOO> what steam games
[15:53] <cfhowlett> !steam
[15:53] <MarcGuay> Hi folks.  I'm setting up a home webdev environment on Ubuntu 14.04.  I have installed postfix for sending mail.  Am I correct in thinking that I will need to configure it to send mail through a trusted server (bluehost, gmail, my ISP) if I want to send mail to the world at large?  If there is a better channel for this question please let me know.
[15:54] <OOOOOO> what is steam
[15:54] <OOOOOO> cann i run dos
[15:54] <OOOOOO> on it dos games
[15:54] <cfhowlett> OOOOOO some dos games are available in steam.  www.steampowered.com
[15:55] <cfhowlett> MarcGuay you're in the right channel.
[15:56] <OOOOOO> you want me to gowhere
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: you would need dosbox in Windows too to play old DOS games
[15:56] <OOOOOO> yeah i know
[15:57] <OOOOOO> i can run dos  box in that but i cant figure it out in ubuntu
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: its not hard to use, once you work out the commands you can make a bash script to do it all
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: run it in a terminal.....
[15:57] <OOOOOO> how do i mount
[15:57] <OOOOOO> c :\
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: read the link I gave you earlier.....its all there/. Why do you think I got it for you ?
[15:58] <OOOOOO> when i type mount c
[15:58] <OOOOOO> it dont  do nothing
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: read the link
[15:59] <OOOOOO> i dont read websites no more to much wrong infromation
[15:59] <cfhowlett> OOOOOO then we cant' help you.  find someone local, pay them and enjoy your system
[15:59] <OerHeks> OOOOOO, so you do trust this information?
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: that is the dosbox wiki on the dosbox official website!
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: and what is to stop you being given incorrect advise by users
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: your logic is seriously flawed
[16:00] <OOOOOO> 0but what is this room for then
[16:00] <OOOOOO> this room is for help
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: I gave you a link which is correct
[16:00] <OOOOOO> aint it
[16:00] <cfhowlett> OOOOOO information and assistance - which you were given.
[16:00] <OOOOOO> i be back in here then
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: basically too lazy and want spoonfeeding commands
[16:01] <OOOOOO> i cant beleve he just cant type the command to mont
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: mount what> You need to tell the system what to mount
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: think about is
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: think about it*
[16:02] <OOOOOO> what is the mount command
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: read the wiki, you''ll understand
[16:02] <cfhowlett> OOOOOO open a terminal.   man mount will tell you all about that command
[16:04] <OOOOOO> cant you just tell me what i need to typ
[16:04] <cfhowlett> OOOOOO type:   man mount
[16:04] <OOOOOO> ty
[16:05] <OOOOOO>  then what do i do hit  enter
[16:05] <cfhowlett> OOOOOO yes.  then you read.
[16:05] <OOOOOO> i cant under stand the wiki
[16:05] <OOOOOO> just tell me what i need
[16:05] <OOOOOO> please
[16:06] <cfhowlett> OOOOOO it doesn't work that way.   if you are unable/unwilling to learn how to manage your own system, you can probably find someone locally, pay them and have them set it up for you..
[16:06] <OOOOOO> i typed in mount
[16:06] <OOOOOO> what do i do now
[16:06] <OOOOOO> after i type mount
[16:07] <cfhowlett> OOOOOO actionparsnip gave you the wiki link with the info you need.  read it.  follow it.
[16:09] <OOOOOO> i just tell me cant you just type it fro me in the room
[16:09] <OOOOOO> geeeeeeez
[16:10] <OOOOOO>  this guy does not know how to run dos box
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: this is getting boriong and you are obviously too lazy to read so we'll do this
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: sigh
[16:10] <cfhowlett> OOOOOO find a pay the experts if you refuse to do it yourself.  I won't be responsible for your errors.  Now let's move on.
[16:11] <OOOOOO> you are getting borning i told you i dont understand you not help me
[16:11] <TJ-> OOOOOO: Ubuntu is Free Open-Source Software, where "Free" is your *FREEDOM" to explore, learn, and extend it.
[16:11] <cfhowlett> OOOOOO what city, state are you in?
[16:11] <Pici> (countrY)
[16:11] <OOOOOO> by giving me some stupid ass site i know you know the commands and you not ever going to tell me because you dont know how to run dos box
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: i told you how you can help yourself, that is the point
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: if you always need spoonfeeding t
[16:12] <cfhowlett> OOOOOO profanity is not allowed - nor is it necessary.
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: stuff like this you will never be good and always ask for help
[16:12] <Pici> OOOOOO: We are not experts in dosbox.
[16:12] <OOOOOO> you making me out to cuss
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> OOOOOO: or you can take some time and learn how to do things and be more autonymous
[16:12] <OOOOOO> you dumb and you donr know how to do it
[16:17] <o_> you allow him to any people and im the one that get in truble
[16:17] <eeee> lol
[16:18] <o_> fuck you pici
[16:18] <o_> annd fucking die
[16:18] <eeee> *!~o@*
[16:18] <cfhowlett> !ops | o_ profanity
[16:18] <preyalone> What package is unix `time` command from?
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> preyalone: run:  dpkg -D time
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> preyalone: run:  dpkg -S time
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> preyalone: second one
[16:20] <preyalone> ActionParsnip: is there a regex pattern i can use, like 'time$' for just the binary? getting thousands of unrelated results
[16:22] <Jack64> hey guys I just updated mysql through apt-get upgrade and it gave an error saying it had dependecy problems.. it was working fine before I updated. I'm on 12.04.4
[16:22] <Jack64> now I can't even start it to backup my DBs, what to do?
[16:23] <rewbycraft> Jack64: What errors?
[16:23] <genii> Jack64: Have you tried: sudo apt-get -f install  ...yet?
[16:24] <Jack64> genii: yes, and rewbycraft it's errors in portuguese but it says mysql-server can't be installed because it depends on mysql-server-5.5, and when I apt-get install/upgrade mysql-server-5.5 it says mysql-server-5.5 isn't configured
[16:25] <Jack64> it was all working before, i had like 10 DBs working 100%
[16:25] <preyalone> dpkg -S `which time` says "time: /usr/bin/time". does that mean it's from the "time" package?
[16:25] <rewbycraft> Jack64: Some error must've happened during configuration. Can you run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and pastebin the output?
[16:26] <Jack64> rewbycraft: sure, it'll take a minute tho
[16:26] <DusXMT> or better yet, "sudo env LC_ALL=C dpkg --configure -a"
[16:26] <rewbycraft> DusXMT: Good point.
[16:26] <Jack64> rewbycraft: invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" failed.
[16:27] <Jack64> that's pretty much the only error in English
[16:27] <DusXMT> Jack64: If you run my command, it will be in english, put the output into a pastebin
[16:27] <rewbycraft> Jack64: Can you do DusXMT's command and actually pastebin the entire log?
[16:27] <Jack64> ok ok, 1min
[16:27] <tgunr> Question: If you have a live system with two identical HDD what would be the best way to duplicate /dev/sda to /dev/sdb? I can stop most all the application processes but cannot bring the system completely down to copy the drive over unmounted using `dd'. Guess my question is can I use `dd' in this situation or should I go ahead and format, create file system, then rsync over the files?
[16:28] <Jack64> here you go: http://pastebin.com/diKc12bJ
[16:28] <cfhowlett> !clone | tgm4883
[16:28] <rewbycraft> That's the most useless error I've ever seen APT give.
[16:29] <Jack64> rewbycraft: indeed
[16:29] <joelmo_> how can i remap keys on my keyboard, the layout on my laptop and the usbkeyboard i plug in differs, the super keys are on different places and some other keys are different too, maybe it would be nice if i could change layout with ibus using alt-space or something
[16:29] <tgm4883> cfhowlett: not me
[16:29] <Jack64> any way to get the databases saved before I purge/install?
[16:29] <cfhowlett> tgm4883 right/  sorry
[16:29] <rewbycraft> Jack64: You might wanna check the apt logs in /var/log to see what's actually happening. I need to go eat though.
[16:30] <cfhowlett> !clone | tgunr
[16:30] <Jack64> rewbycraft: ok, thanks for your help
[16:30] <tgunr> its not another machine, it's /dev/sda -> /dev/sdb
[16:34] <absk007_> is there any shorthand for `mv` cmd?
[16:34] <eeee> more shorthand than mv ?
[16:34] <cfhowlett> absk007_ shorthand?  mv is already pretty darn short!
[16:34] <cfhowlett> tgunr never done it myself, but I suspect rsync would meet your use profile
[16:35] <absk007_> cfhowlett, no i mean i saw somewhere `mv /opt/file1.txt{,file2.txt}`
[16:36] <cfhowlett> absk007_ see the man page for "mv" ...
[16:37] <absk007_> cfhowlett, it's not in there or i couldn't find anywhere.
[16:42] <TJ-> absk007_: You're asking about shell expansions, e.g. see "man bash" "/^EXPANSION"
[16:42] <absk007_> TJ-, thanks.
[16:43] <rajmahendra> I just upgraded my ubuntu to new one when i restart i am getting boot error showing "Fontconfig error: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/65-khmer.conf", line 14: out of memory" Anyone help me to solve this.. its not at all displaying login scren.
[16:45] <UnknownNick> any one experinaced in stash installing in ubuntu
[16:46] <cagri> hello, when i have two windows of google chrom open, and i want to switch between them by clicking on the  icon on the unity panel, my whole system freezes. does anyone know why?
[16:46] <rajmahendra> i found this soluton but i am unable to login to system but how can i execute the command ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/421891/fontconfig-error-out-of-memory
[16:48] <TJ-> rajmahendra: start the system in Recovery mode
[16:48] <rajmahendra> TJ-: how to run the recovery mode ?
[16:49] <TJ-> rajmahendra: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[16:51] <aboudreault> Does anyone know how could I get that damn grub-efi-amd64-signed to install?
[16:52] <aboudreault> (the package installation)
[16:52] <TJ-> aboudreault: "sudo apt-get install grub-efi-amd64-signed" ?
[16:52] <ServerSage> aboudreault: What error are you getting?
[16:52] <DJ> anyone know setup idea mobile broadband?
[16:54] <aboudreault> yes. The installation just crash with grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of /cow
[16:54] <aboudreault> i'm testing the manual installation since the installer just crash with that error too
[16:55] <genii> From the sound of that, looks like you are trying to install it onto a persistent USB installation
[16:55] <ilovelinux> hi
[16:55] <aboudreault> using a usb key yes, from the live dvd
[16:55] <alexherbo2> Hi
[16:55] <aboudreault> cd
[16:55] <ilovelinux> hi alecherbo2
[16:56] <DarkSector_> So I am on raring and it's not supported any longer. Anyway I want to upgrade to the latest release but my repos are giving me 404 and I want a way that doesn't include making me reinstall the whole os
[16:56] <DJ> usb 3g modem huawei ..run new mobile broadband and setup but no connection.
[16:56] <DarkSector_> So what can I do?
[16:56] <ilovelinux> I need your public IP address of the modem
[16:56] <ilovelinux> tank you
[16:56] <webmind> wut?
[16:56] <ilovelinux> I need your public IP address of the modem
[16:57] <cfhowlett> ilovelinux i'm NOT giving you my public modem address!
[16:57] <alexherbo2> http://bpaste.net/raw/475543/
[16:58] <alexherbo2> I have hard probleme with my hard drive
[16:58] <alexherbo2> :(
[16:58] <rajmahendra> TJ-: it says not using locking for read only lock file  dpkg was interrupted you must manually run sudo dpkg --congiure -a to correct teh problem.
[16:58] <ilovelinux> what is your public IP address of the modem
[16:58] <cfhowlett> ilovelinux no.  no.  and HECK no.
[16:58] <TJ-> rajmahendra: OK, you'll probably need to remount the root file-system read/write
[16:58] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade|DarkSector_
[16:58] <rajmahendra> TJ-: when i run dpkg it says unable to access dpkg status area readonly file system
[16:59] <TJ-> rajmahendra: which should be done with "mount -o remount-rw /"
[16:59] <rajmahendra> TJ-: and then purge the font ?
[16:59] <DarkSector_> cfhowlett: Okay let me see if this works
[16:59] <TJ-> rajmahendra: If you then do "mount | grep / " you should see (rw) to indicate it is read/write now
[17:00] <TJ-> rajmahendra: now redo the "dpkg --configure -a" and then purge the font
[17:01] <rajmahendra> TJ-:  when i run 'mount -o remount-rw /' it says /dev/sda1 already mounted or /busy
[17:01] <Glycan> Could someone explain, please, what exactly the difference between lightdm, LXDE/Xfce/etc, Openbox, and Compiz/Metacity/etc is?
[17:01] <TJ-> rajmahendra: my fault, typo! "mount -o remount,rw / "
[17:01] <super> lightdm control your login session
[17:01] <cfhowlett> Glycan different look and feels
[17:01] <cfhowlett> !flavors | Glycan
[17:02] <super> lxde is another desktop environment lighter than xfce
[17:02] <Glycan> I'm not asking about the difference between LXDE and Xfce, I'm asking about what the different levels of things do
[17:02] <super> compiz are using to give you the special effects for your desktop environment
[17:02] <super> Glycan, they are absolutely not different at all
[17:03] <Glycan> I'm not entirely sure what those classes of things are called, otherwise I'd jsut ask about them. Desktop environment, window manager, display manager...?
[17:03] <sjmikem> My left mouse button has stopped working on my 2nd monitor
[17:03] <rajmahendra> TJ-: its ok its running now with many setting up..
[17:03] <sjmikem> can anyone help me resolve it without rebooting?
[17:03] <Glycan> super: lightdm is the same type of thing as openbox?
[17:03] <super> lightdm is not openbox
[17:03] <Glycan> the same *type* of thing
[17:04] <super> lightdm is the login session manager
[17:04] <Glycan> like, from what I've understood KDE and GNOME are the same type of thing (window managers?)
[17:04] <TJ-> sjmikem: is the 2nd monitor running a 2nd X session?
[17:04] <sjmikem> TJ- no it's all one X session AFAIK
[17:05] <super> lightdm is your bouncer you must have username and password before you go inside that desktop club
[17:05] <Glycan> that's the display manager?
[17:06] <sjmikem> TJ- I have one X process, two lightdm processes
[17:07] <ilovelinux> what is your public IP address of the modem
[17:08] <cfhowlett> ilovelinux why?
[17:08] <DarkSector_> cfhowlett: okay that works. I don't even need to upgrade. I can just use those packages
[17:08] <ilovelinux> Public IP: http://www.whatismyip.com/
[17:08] <sjmikem> TJ- I guess kill lightdm was not the right answer
[17:08] <cfhowlett> DarkSector_ true, but you really SHOULD consider upgrading to a supported version -
[17:09] <sjmikem> TJ- what should I do next time it happens?
[17:09] <FuzzyWhirlpool>  ilovelinux, you could find it via `/whois ` irc command.
[17:09] <DarkSector_> cfhowlett: well in about 30 days I won't be using this machine anyway. So I will install the new version on the new machine I get
[17:10] <cfhowlett> DarkSector_ sounds like a plan.  consider 14.04 as it has Long Term Support - 5 years!
[17:10] <DarkSector_> Woohoo
[17:10] <DarkSector_> Thanks for the help cfhowlett, later.
[17:11] <cfhowlett> DarkSector_ happy2help
[17:11] <Frantic> Hey guys, I've just tried installing ubuntu on a new computer, Dell machine, Intel C602 chipset. Then I went to Youtube to see if sound works. It works, but the quality is horrible. Any idea how I would fix that?
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> Frantic: did you install graphics driver?
[17:12] <Frantic> The one thing I've tried is plugging my headphones in the front jack, instead of the back jack. Starngely, the front jack is better, quailty is not horrible, but it's quite low
[17:13] <Frantic> lotuspsychje: I've installed the nvidia driver, yes, why do you ask?
[17:13] <lotuspsychje> Frantic: and sound drivers?
[17:13] <Frantic> lotuspsychje: no, not sure what sound drivers I should install
[17:14] <lotuspsychje> Frantic: double check your additional drivers section
[17:14] <Frantic> lotuspsychje: I don't recall seeing anything in the additional drivers section, should there have been something in there?
[17:14] <lotuspsychje> Frantic: just to make sure is why i ask
[17:14] <lotuspsychje> !sound | Frantic
[17:17] <TJ-> sjmikem: If it isn't with 2 X sessions my suspected cause can't be correct.
[17:18] <WXZ1> I have a bunch of wav files and cue sheets for those wave files, how do I view the audio with cue points?
[17:18] <sjmikem> TJ- any tips on diagnosing further?
[17:18] <invisiblek> anyone have a socket 2011 board/cpu running that can run a quick command for me?
[17:19] <sjohnson> i think you mean LGA2011
[17:19] <invisiblek> yea, sure w/e
[17:19] <TJ-> sjmikem: My thought was some application had captured the mouse but if it works on one monitor but not the other, I can't think how that would occur, if you've got your desktop over both
[17:19] <Guest49127> hello, where can I get support with my ubuntu? i am having troubles with monitor
[17:21] <SouL> Anyone knows how to setup a multiseat ubuntu? Easy. With an application or something.
[17:23] <joakim_> What do you mean with "multiseat" "Soul"?
[17:23] <Psi-Jack> heh
[17:23] <SouL> joakim_: ultiple users using one personal computer, each with their own console, consisting of a keyboard, a mouse and a monitor.
[17:23] <SouL> multiple*
[17:23] <Jack64> guys I have purged my install of mysql-server and mysql-server-5.5 and still can't install using apt-get, what can I do? I need it up
[17:24] <Beldar> SouL, lots of wiki's here is one. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multiseat
[17:25] <Frantic> Guys,  I've just tried installing ubuntu on a new computer, Dell machine, Intel C602 chipset. Then I went to Youtube to see if sound works. It works, but the quality is horrible. Any idea how I would fix that?
[17:26] <SouL> Beldar: I try to understand that but I don't know if I'm going to be able. I'm not a computer scientist or anything, just a user
[17:26] <helpi> hello, my ubuntu spread view causes my system to freeze, does anyone know how to fix this
[17:26] <helpi> ?
[17:26] <rajmahendra> TJ-: thank you so much it works :)
[17:27] <joakim_> Soul is asking for a simple way, i'm looking  at it.Brb
[17:27] <rajmahendra> you saved my office laptop :D
[17:27] <SouL> joakim_: thank you very muhc
[17:27] <dionisio> hello ubuntu friends
[17:27] <xxneolithicxx> hi all
[17:28] <damearin> hello i got a question
[17:28] <dionisio> i installed ubuntu 14.04 and after some tweaks the top bar disapeared. doesanyone knows how to make it visible again?
[17:29] <dionisio> i make gnome flashbak and remove some unity libs
[17:29] <Guest49127> guys, i have connected two diffrent monitors to my laptop using vga (one by one of course) and used them with my laptop monitor as two monitors, now when i have only laptop, after logging in, i get black screen, i have to boot from usb, initframs says, that there is conflict with two vga monitors, but right now no one is connected. liveusb runs perfectly, what can i do, to force display on my laptop monitor? i cant use console for that,
[17:29] <Guest49127>  but i can modify files from usb
[17:29] <xangua> dionisio: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop to install back what you removed
[17:29] <dionisio> thank you xangua. ill let you know
[17:29] <mojtaba1> Hi, I am using Mac as a remote machine and Ubuntu as a local machine and I have enabled X forwarding on Mac. But the problem is that, when I try to open an application, it opens in Mac not in Ubuntu. Do you know what should I do? (I heard changing the $DISPLAY manually is not safe.)
[17:30] <damearin> what is the difference betwenn apt-get and aptitude because this os seems to be like the point where ubuntu split from debian so im confused
[17:30] <vik1231> does the 14.04 kernel update released yesterday ? so how do i upgrade
[17:30] <xxneolithicxx> im having issues installing lightdm on ubuntu server 14.04, I have tried 'sudo apt-get install xorg xserver-xorg mate-desktop lightdm lightdm-gtk-greeter mate-desktop nvidia-experimental-310' but all I get on boot is a underscore cursor on the top left of my screen
[17:30] <Psi-Jack> xxneolithicxx: Why did you install an X server on a server?
[17:31] <WXZ1> I have a bunch of wav files and cue sheets for those wave files, how do I view the audio with cue points?
[17:31] <Frantic> Guys, Just installed Ubuntu on a Dell machine, Intel C602 chipset. Then I went to Youtube to see if sound works. It works, but the sound quality is horrible. Any idea how I would fix that?
[17:31] <dionisio> xangua, its the same. ill reboot to check if anything changed. brb
[17:31] <Beldar> SouL, Try to understand this is free help and some things you have to do yourself one being research and exact issue addressing.
[17:32] <xxneolithicxx> Psi-Jack: wasnt sure if I was missing Xorg stuff that was causing my lightdm not tostart
[17:32] <SouL> Beldar: Yes of course, thank you very much.
[17:32] <xxneolithicxx> it looks like lightdm just starts and then bails
[17:32] <Psi-Jack> xxneolithicxx: Why do you want to install an X on a server?
[17:32] <xxneolithicxx> but theres no errors in the logs
[17:32] <xxneolithicxx> Psi-Jack: how else would you run Mate without xorg?
[17:32] <Frantic> Anyone? :(
[17:33] <helpi> Help my unity scale effect keeps crashing (super + w)
[17:33] <joakim_> "Soul" When im reading the info at the "wikipage" it seemes like multiseat is "working" yet in Ubuntu, but it would in the future.
[17:33] <vik1231> does the 14.04 kernel update released yesterday ? so how do i upgrade
[17:33] <Psi-Jack> xxneolithicxx: Why do you want to run Mate on a SERVER?
[17:33] <Allusoar> Im late in on this, but what is your graphics vendor. Intel, nvidia, etc.
[17:33] <joakim_> Ofcourse I could be wrong but it seemes correct
[17:34] <xxneolithicxx> Psi-Jack: because I do :-) run along if you have no input other than why
[17:34] <Beldar> Frantic, Please no anyone stuff it shows a lack of patience and is a by itself a waste of all out times.
[17:34] <Psi-Jack> Quite silly.
[17:34] <Beldar> our*
[17:35] <SouL> joakim_: com dius?
[17:35] <Joseph_> Hi
[17:35] <usr13> Lumiette: And be sure that if you have a UEFI partition to leave it alone
[17:35] <Joseph_> i am facing strange issues with ubuntu 14.04 server
[17:35] <Allusoar> Try installing "xserver-xorg-video-*"  where * is you graphics vendor,  without quotations. Then use startx.
[17:35] <Joseph_> any one help out pls
[17:35] <Joseph_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7815466/
[17:36] <dionisio> xangua, its the same... thank you anyway
[17:36] <Psi-Jack> Joseph_: Sorry, I don't see pls anywhere in this channel at this time.
[17:36] <Beldar> Joseph_> any one help out pls NOne of this please, post all in one set as well.
[17:36] <Frantic> Beldar: I have no idea what you tried to say
[17:37] <Beldar> Allusoar, For an X startX is not correct in  general.
[17:37] <Allusoar> and the person who asked how would you run mate without xorg, there is xvesa, which I would not use because its way too glitchy
[17:37] <Allusoar> startx would be to test it, not use it all the time
[17:37] <Joseph_> Hi sorry what you mean
[17:37] <Joseph_> can you help me to out ?
[17:37] <Beldar> Frantic, Post your issue all together in one post no hello's no pls, keep it to the point.
[17:37] <dionisio> help lease. top bar (user, time, session/reboot menu) is not visible. how an i make it visible again?
[17:38] <Allusoar> and yes start x does start an xserver through xorg, if you would like to test it hit ctrl+alt+f2 then login and type startx
[17:38] <Frantic> Beldar: I did post it alltogether
[17:38] <Allusoar> it will launch your default xsession
[17:38] <OerHeks> Joseph_, is this on ARM ? you might want to join #ubuntu-arm
[17:38] <xxneolithicxx> Allusoar: its linux, theres almost always another way ;-)
[17:38] <Beldar> !details | Allusoar
[17:39] <Beldar> Frantic, I'm not going to argue with you it took three posts including a pls help to just get a pastebin, that is not really how this works here.
[17:39] <Allusoar> I was trying to help Psi-jack
[17:39] <Psi-Jack> Allusoar: Pardon?
[17:39] <joakim_> Sorry, Soul...trying to find a solution to youre problem beacuse I want this to ..what do you mean with com dius?
[17:39] <dionisio> help lease. top bar (user, time, session/reboot menu) is not visible. how an i make it visible again?
[17:39] <Frantic> Beldar: dude, I think you're mixing me up with someone else, no idea what pastebin you're talking about
[17:40] <Allusoar> Psi-Jack: wasnt sure if I was missing Xorg stuff that was causing my lightdm not tostart
[17:40] <Joseph_> not able to install any package on ubuntu server 14.04
[17:40] <Joseph_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7815466/
[17:40] <Psi-Jack> Allusoar: I was simply asking why someone would want to install Xorg, Mate, or lightdm on what they labeled as a "server", not a desktop.
[17:40] <xxneolithicxx> Joseph_:  have you tried sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:40] <Allusoar> Because some people run minecraft servers, etc, on ubuntu servers that require a gui to run.
[17:41] <Joseph_> Yes
[17:41] <Psi-Jack> Allusoar: Which is a horrible excuse.
[17:41] <Beldar> Beldar> Frantic, Please no anyone stuff it shows a lack of patience and is a by itself a waste of all out times. THis is what we are addressing seems pretty straight forward we are mixed up as you cannot understand basic communication, sorry if I followed that.
[17:41] <Allusoar> but gets the job done, so i find it a solution not an excuse
[17:41] <SouL> joakim_: sorry sorry. Yes, Thanks for helping me out. It's just I'm trying to get this since a lot of time and all I found is old or you have to be a mega computer engineer to use it :(
[17:41] <xxneolithicxx> Joseph_: did you install conflicting kernel meta packages at any point?
[17:41] <Psi-Jack> Allusoar: It's an excuse. As-is minecraft. ;)
[17:41] <usr13> Joseph_: See line 14
[17:42] <usr13> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[17:42] <xxneolithicxx> usr13: that should not prevent him from installing other stuff in most cases
[17:42] <Allusoar> its not an excuse, have you tried running a minecraft on a distro other than ubuntu server?
[17:43] <usr13> xxneolithicxx: See lines 10 - 13
[17:43] <xxneolithicxx> usr13: i saw them
[17:44] <usr13> xxneolithicxx: Ok, if you have any further advise, tell Joseph_
[17:44] <xxneolithicxx> autoremoves are a recommendation but should not prevent you from installing, the real issue is the errors thrown by runparts leaving the packages unconfigured
[17:45] <usr13> xxneolithicxx: Did you also see lines 102-108?
[17:45] <Joseph_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7815494/
[17:45] <Joseph_> same
[17:45] <Joseph_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7815494/
[17:45] <xxneolithicxx> usr13: exactly why i asked Joseph_ if he had changed or modified the kernel meta packages installed at any point
[17:47] <joakim_> Soul: Yeah,,,Im no mega computer engineer to but Multiseat would be fantastic.. But in real life it's more simble with different computers and so on. ..But it's definitely possible and doable
[17:47] <xxneolithicxx> Psi-Jack: because I want my server headless most of the time but to be able to jump into the desktop when I need to
[17:48] <xxneolithicxx> *manually
[17:48] <Allusoar> It looks to me like you broke an update and tried to autoremove the packages. I did this a couple days ago. Try "sudo dpkg --configure -a", then use "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade".
[17:48] <Psi-Jack> xxneolithicxx: A server you should never /need/ to use X. If you do, you're doing it wrong.
[17:48] <Beldar> Allusoar, Try to preface with nicks, a broken upgrade might need a a apt-get -f install
[17:48] <Allusoar> if it gets it done your not doing it wrong
[17:49] <xxneolithicxx> Psi-Jack: lol everybody is "doing it wrong" according to somebody
[17:49] <usr13> Joseph_: df
[17:49] <Allusoar> no because the system still thinks its upgrading and the lock will not let you run "apt-get install -f"
[17:49] <joakim_> Soul: You and me  is just gonna wait for a solution for that problem cause people are looking in to it. But it is a matter of hardware and components to
[17:50] <Beldar> !who | Allusoar
[17:50] <Allusoar> k
[17:51] <Beldar> Allusoar, The sudo dpkg --configure -a may unlock, than if a broken install apt-get -f upgrade is needed at times. Hard to to follow your help as you are not using nicks.
[17:51] <SouL> joakim_: Yes! I bought a great computer for sharing it with my family (to don't waste more money on more computers) because I though I could make it multiseat
[17:52] <Allusoar> Beldar: the "sudo dpkg --configure -a" will unlock it and try to continue the update, will fail, remove the lock, then all you have to do is "apt-get update" and "apt-get upgrade" again.
[17:52] <Semen_Dickman> hi
[17:52] <Semen_Dickman> how much for ubuntu?
[17:52] <eeee> $0
[17:53] <Joseph_> yes
[17:53] <Joseph_> seems again i run the same command
[17:53] <Joseph_> get same :)
[17:53] <Semen_Dickman> i do this on ubuntu and i get error...wtf to do?
[17:54] <Semen_Dickman> no no what i actually meant was
[17:54] <Semen_Dickman> which one is better? ubuntu or windows 8?
[17:54] <bazhang> !ot
[17:54] <Semen_Dickman> !ot
[17:54] <mojtaba1> Hi, I am using Mac as a remote machine and Ubuntu as a local machine and I have enabled X forwarding on Mac. But the problem is that, when I try to open an application, it opens in Mac not in Ubuntu. Do you know what should I do? (I heard changing the $DISPLAY manually is not safe.)
[17:54] <Semen_Dickman> which one is better? ubuntu or windows 8?
[17:54] <Psi-Jack> Semen_Dickman: Linux
[17:54] <bazhang> thats offtopic here
[17:54] <Semen_Dickman> which linux?
[17:54] <Psi-Jack> Semen_Dickman: Any
[17:54] <Allusoar> joseph_: this is your pastebin right? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7815494/
[17:55] <Semen_Dickman> why not windows...?
[17:55] <MavKen> Semen_Dickman, I left win 8 for xubuntu... first timde using linux
[17:55] <Psi-Jack> Semen_Dickman: Windows sucks. Off-topic. Pick a new topic. DO you have any Ubuntu questions?
[17:55] <MavKen> I'll never go back to windows
[17:55] <Semen_Dickman> why ? please tell me bra
[17:55] <xv247> hello
[17:55] <Semen_Dickman> not fast?
[17:55] <Psi-Jack> Semen_Dickman: Troll elsewhere.
[17:55] <TJ-> !ot | Semen_Dickman
[17:55] <Joseph_> yes
[17:55] <Allusoar> joseph_: if it is your pastebin use "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock" and "sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock" then run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and do the update and upgrade.
[17:56] <MavKen> can I pm you Semen_Dickman
[17:56] <Semen_Dickman> please bra
[17:56] <Joseph_> ok
[17:56] <Psi-Jack> Semen_Dickman: Troll elsewhere.
[17:57] <Psi-Jack> Sweet.
[17:57] <Psi-Jack> Arigatou gouzimasu Pici-san!
[17:57] <Beldar> Allusoar, Sure, however since you had not been using nicks it was a matter of searching the channel and trying to figure out if the help you were giving was the best. That was my only concern, we help and watch each other here for best help results.
[17:58] <mozzarella> will ubuntu replace nautilus?
[17:58] <mozzarella> in the next release
[17:58] <cyrildz> Hello all
[17:58] <Beldar> mozzarella, with what?
[17:58] <Allusoar> Beldar: What?
[17:58] <xxneolithicxx> mozzarella: didnt they already for an older version
[17:58] <mozzarella> Beldar: with a new file manager of their own?
[17:58] <xxneolithicxx> *fork
[17:58] <cyrildz> I have some question about ubuntu SoundMenu
[17:59] <Beldar> mozzarella, Like what, and what makes you think they are?
[17:59] <xxneolithicxx> mozzarella: or at least pin to an older version
[17:59] <dirkc> I'm struggling with UFW, is this the place to ask?
[17:59] <mozzarella> Beldar: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU4OTY
[17:59] <Joseph_> still going on
[17:59] <Joseph_> we wold wait for few minutes
[17:59] <Allusoar> Joseph_: What was the output of the commands?
[18:00] <Beldar> mozzarella, This is support ask canonical we are not canonical.
[18:00] <Joseph_> i run the two command
[18:00] <Joseph_> no error
[18:00] <Joseph_> then  update
[18:00] <Beldar> !who | Joseph_
[18:01] <Beldar> Joseph_, besides prefacing with nicks lay off the enter.
[18:01] <lsd_> close
[18:01] <Joseph_> :)
[18:02] <Allusoar> Joseph_: did the update and upgrade work?
[18:02] <cyrildz> I have implemented for my App the mpris2 specs , I can see the interfaces present on the session Bus through qdbusviewer. But I can't see my App listed in the soundmenu. what should I add in my code to have it shown in the soundmenu?   As a test, I also did a notification  class to send notifactions through Dbus and it works
[18:04] <Joseph_> still upgrade going on
[18:05] <eeee> clear
[18:06] <Joseph_> same issues
[18:06] <Joseph_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7815577/
[18:07] <Joseph_> :)
[18:07] <Beldar> Joseph_, Can you compact your posts please it is easier for the channel and your help. Think before just hitting the enter please. ;)
[18:07] <OerHeks> Joseph_, why do you have a mix of ARM kernels and normal intel kernels ?
[18:08] <Joseph_> any way to remove ?
[18:08] <Joseph_> ARM
[18:09] <OerHeks> Joseph_, remove the 'signed kernels' i guess
[18:09] <Allusoar> when removing use "sudo apt-get remove --purge <packagename>"
[18:10] <Joseph_> any option to set default setting
[18:10] <Allusoar> Joseph_: Try "sudo apt-get clean" and "sudo apt-get update && dist-upgrade"
[18:11] <Joseph_> Ok
[18:12] <MavKen> is apt-get clean like apt-get autoremove?
[18:12] <TJ-> MavKen: no
[18:13] <Allusoar> MavKen: its the same but removes all packages from the cache
[18:13] <TJ-> MavKen: autoremove removes installed packages that are no longer depended on by any other package, and aren't marked "Essential" or "Priority: required"
[18:13] <MavKen> oh ok
[18:13] <Joseph_> bad time for me :)
[18:14] <Joseph_> same message
[18:14] <Joseph_> :)
[18:15] <MavKen> I run "apt-get update -y && apt-get upgrade -y && apt-get dist-upgrade -y && apt-get autoremove -y" once per day on laptop and server
[18:15] <MavKen> one day ill install unattended upgrades
[18:16] <dirkc> I can't seem to simply block http traffic, I run 'ufw deny 80' but traffic still goes through
[18:16] <Allusoar> Joseph_: What version are you on again?
[18:17] <Joseph_> 14.04
[18:17] <Joseph_> i guess final option format :)
[18:18] <Allusoar> Joseph_: do you have synaptic
[18:18] <Joseph_> if need i would install
[18:18] <Joseph_> only apt-get
[18:18] <Allusoar> Joseph_: Try sudo apt-get install synaptic"
[18:19] <Joseph_> done
[18:19] <Allusoar> type sudo synaptic
[18:19] <Joseph_> done going on :)
[18:20] <Allusoar> Joseph_: with synaptic open goto edit and hit fix broken packages
[18:20] <Joseph_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7815627/
[18:21] <Allusoar> Joseph_: with synaptic open goto edit and hit fix broken packages, it should automaticly fix dep problems.
[18:21] <Joseph_> let me try
[18:21] <Joseph_> this is server
[18:21] <Joseph_> no GUI
[18:22] <Allusoar> try sudo apt-get upgrade -f
[18:23] <Joseph_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7815641/
[18:23] <Allusoar> one sec firefox desided to freeze on me
[18:23] <daftykins> Joseph_: have you run "apt-get clean" and "apt-get -f install" yet ?
[18:24] <Allusoar> yeah we already did that
[18:24] <daftykins> was there a pastebin of it?
[18:24] <Allusoar> we have tried almost everything so far
[18:24] <Joseph_> Yes
[18:24] <Allusoar> his pastebin is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/7815641/
[18:24] <daftykins> Allusoar: not of the commands i said... else i wouldn't have asked
[18:24] <daftykins> Joseph_: please pastebin the above
[18:25] <Allusoar> i had that problem many times before and all the fixes that work for me arent working for him
[18:25] <daftykins> well, installing synaptic was sure as hell not an answer :)
[18:25] <mojtaba1> Hi, I am using Mac as a remote machine and Ubuntu as a local machine and I have enabled X forwarding on Mac. But the problem is that, when I try to open an application, it opens in Mac not in Ubuntu. Do you know what should I do? (I heard changing the $DISPLAY manually is not safe.)
[18:25] <Allusoar> guys what is the command to get running process id's
[18:25] <Joseph_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7815641/
[18:25] <daftykins> Allusoar: ps -ef
[18:25] <Pici> Allusoar: ps aux
[18:26] <Allusoar> thanks
[18:26] <daftykins> Joseph_: that's the same ID
[18:26] <Allusoar> firefox is still "running"
[18:26] <daftykins> Joseph_: paste fail? :)
[18:26] <daftykins> Allusoar: if you're asking a question please phrase one
[18:26] <Allusoar> dafty: are you a bot?
[18:26] <Joseph_> do we need new ?
[18:27] <daftykins> Joseph_: i asked you to run "apt-get clean" then "apt-get -f install".
[18:27] <daftykins> Allusoar: what makes you ask something so daft?
[18:28] <Joseph_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7815676/
[18:29] <Allusoar> dafty: well you said phrase a question if im asking one, I was just giving output to the answer you gave me, I wasnt phrasing a question
[18:29] <A1Recon> I would like some advice for buying a Bluetooth Headsets.... Has anyone heard of those Hybrid Wired/Wireless Bluetooth Headsets? I drive a bike and wear a helmet so.....  I want to use it for PC and Android smartphone at the same time? But I wonder if the headsets have enough audio clarity...
[18:30] <daftykins> Allusoar: right but i don't know what your issue is, so telling me firefox is still running is about as useless as a chocolate teapot :)
[18:30] <daftykins> *useful
[18:30] <daftykins> Joseph_: so what's the story with your system? what were you doing before it got into this state?
[18:30] <laspahr> hmm.. anyone use pidgin? I'm just now getting it started up, after fresh install of Ubuntu 14.04
[18:30] <Allusoar> dafty: you dont have to state or "phrase" a question to let people know there is a problem
[18:30] <blz> Hello!  How can I set a audio device (card 1, device 7 in `sudo aplay -l`) to be the default audio device?  This is under ubuntu server 14.04
[18:31] <daftykins> Allusoar: this is a support channel. i cannot read minds, phrase a question for someone to answer please :)
[18:31] <Joseph_> its open stack compute
[18:31] <Joseph_> its working well
[18:31] <Allusoar> Is daftykins a bot? I cant tell.
[18:31] <Pici> Allusoar: no.
[18:31] <Allusoar> Im so confused.
[18:31] <getseclectic> how can i tell what dns server dnsmasq is using? i'm having trouble getting my dns to work properly on my work vpn
[18:31] <daftykins> ¬_¬
[18:31] <blz> Allusoar, seeing as how he makes typographical errors, I'm going to go with "no"
[18:32] <laspahr> eeee: I got Ubuntu fresh install on.. have *most* of my files, Idk if any got lost
[18:32] <laspahr> but stuff isn't installed how I had them or anything... /:
[18:32] <Joseph_> suddenly not working , suddenly i try to install  nova
[18:32] <Allusoar> well there are AI bots designed to make those errors to be more human like, Iv coded one before..
[18:32] <daftykins> Joseph_: no, looks like one pretty broken setup you've got there.
[18:32] <getseclectic> i found 'nmcli dev list iface eth0 | grep IP4.DNS.' somewhere but i dunno if it's right
[18:32] <daftykins> Allusoar: please either get back on topic or join #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:32] <eeee> laspahr: congrats :)
[18:33] <laspahr> also, is there a command I can run to make this not show leave/enter?
[18:33] <Allusoar> daftykins: you got me off topic in the first place, I was trying to help someone and you interupted me.
[18:33] <eeee> laspahr: if you want to get all your packages back (i dont think it includes the ppa's, which is what you want though right?) you can.
[18:33]  * daftykins glances at Pici and rolls his eyes
[18:33] <eeee> laspahr: you did do the dpkg --get-selections > .... before the installation right ?
[18:33] <A1Recon> oops wrong chat room sorry
[18:33] <A1Recon> so sorry
[18:34] <laspahr> eeee: yes I did that, but idk that it did any good.. idk what to do with it
[18:34] <Pici> Lets just move on then, and get back to real support :)
[18:34] <Joseph_> any other way to fix ?
[18:34] <MajorTom> hello
[18:34] <laspahr> what's the IRC command to hide enter/leave alerts?
[18:34] <Allusoar> anyways I came originaly to ask how do I add startup sounds and login/logout sounds for ubuntu studio?
[18:34] <Pici> !quietirc | laspahr
[18:34] <Joseph_> somthing kernel level
[18:35] <OerHeks> laspahr, depens on the client
[18:35] <OerHeks> *depends
[18:35] <laspahr> ah thx
[18:35] <MajorTom> excuse me,,,,can I ask you a thing?
[18:35] <eeee> laspahr: are you on xchat2?
[18:35] <laspahr> pidgin
[18:36] <laspahr> I would use hexchat, which is what I had installed, but idk if I wanna go through the hassle of it again
[18:36] <Allusoar> o.o
[18:36] <MajorTom> ...
[18:36] <Allusoar> what.. just.. happened
[18:36] <Pici> MajorTom: don't ask to ask, just ask.
[18:36] <Pici> !netsplit
[18:36] <MajorTom> uh ok thanks Pici
[18:36] <eeee> laspahr: check the settings > text events > join / part /quit ..etc.
[18:36] <eeee> (something like that)
[18:36] <MajorTom> I'm using Lubuntu....and xchat
[18:37] <laspahr> found it aha
[18:37] <laspahr> think it worked
[18:37] <laspahr> now... idk if I like this or how I had it b4 better...
[18:37] <moultonl> Anyone know how to install a particular version of java form the webupd8 repo?  I'm trying to get 1.6 v33
[18:37] <MajorTom> I can't connect to a certain irc network using xchat nor usinf firefox
[18:37] <MajorTom> and I can't unfderstand why!
[18:37] <eeee> MajorTom: does it use ssl ?
[18:38] <eeee> MajorTom:  you need to add "+" before the port if so..
[18:38] <MajorTom> no that I know...
[18:38] <daftykins> moultonl: it tends to be filled with auto downloaders so i think it's intended for latest versions only (which is wise given java's many security issues). however, it's also a PPA so we cannot support it here
[18:38] <bprompt> MajorTom:   try another ports maybe
[18:38] <MajorTom> the strange things is that I can't connect to their website using firefox too
[18:38] <Allusoar> does anyone know when skype will get updated for linux? caught up with windows?
[18:39] <bprompt> MajorTom:    they also might be down for  a bit, and that happens
[18:39] <daftykins> Allusoar: third party software is off topic here.
[18:39] <MajorTom> I thought it too...but I can conenct using another computer
[18:39] <laspahr> okay, just getting things figured out again.. heh
[18:39] <laspahr> I think I got this to autojoin
[18:39] <laspahr> and login and whatnot
[18:39] <bprompt> MajorTom:   try another ports maybe
[18:39] <MajorTom> so I uninstalled my browser and installet it again
[18:39] <MajorTom> ok I will try thanks
[18:39] <Allusoar> daftykins: sorry I just thought my question was a question, my bad
[18:40] <laspahr> eeee: is there a way I can get all my stuff reinstalled? or no? /:
[18:41] <MajorTom> Allusor...I think they will put it on repositories at the next realese
[18:41] <eeee> laspahr: it's as simple as dpkg --set-selections /path/to/packages
[18:41] <Allusoar> laspahr: "sudo apt-get install --reinstall *" might work
[18:42] <laspahr> ah.. okay thanks eeee!
[18:42] <MajorTom> ok folks I return beating my head on the wall^^
[18:42] <Allusoar> laspahr: im not eeee..
[18:42] <MajorTom> see you and thanks everybpdy
[18:42] <eeee> Allusoar: that's not what's going on here..
[18:43] <Allusoar> eeee: please excuse me while I reassemble my mind as it has been blown
[18:44] <laspahr> lol
[18:44] <eeee> Allusoar: what's up, why's it blown
[18:44] <laspahr> dang, why is it showing join/leaves still? ._.
[18:44] <Allusoar> eeee: brain needs to reboot, give it a sec
[18:44] <shekhu> thanks eeee, the meeting got over. The client said the file is not really required
[18:45] <eeee> shekhu: hehe that's good
[18:45] <shekhu> I'll hang around in this IRC more from now. Will only learn :D
[18:46] <eeee> yeah it's a good place
[18:46] <daftykins> as long as you stick to policy we'll get on famously \o/
[18:47] <shekhu> I dont know if I have enough knowledge to contribute but will only learn :D
[18:49] <laspahr> hmmm.. would it be worth it to make a new user on Ubuntu?
[18:52] <getseclectic> anyone know how to debug networkmanager/dnsmasq?
[18:52] <daftykins> getseclectic: what's happening?
[18:53] <getseclectic> it seems like it isn't using my dns settings from my vpn config
[18:53] <getseclectic> i changed the ipv4 settings to addresses only and specified a dns server, but it isn't using it
[18:54] <Kireji> in the past when I've rebooted my server, sometime when there is a Loong wait before it comes back up, people have told me it's doing some kind of disk checking.  particularly bad when it's been a long time since last reboot.  Is there a way I can do whatever disk checks before I reboot so the long wait doesn't happen?
[18:54] <Kireji> by long I mean 20-30 minutes
[18:55] <getseclectic> it works fine if i have it set to route everything through the vpn, but not when i disable that
[18:55] <getseclectic> i added some static routes and everything seems to be working fine except dns
[18:55] <daftykins> getseclectic: confirm the active DNS server via nslookup ?
[18:56] <getseclectic> you mean which server i'm using?
[18:56] <getseclectic> it's always 127 because it's going through dnsmasq
[18:56] <daftykins> getseclectic: haha, yes that's what my sentence says
[18:56] <daftykins> ah :/ i disable that junk
[18:57] <getseclectic> yeah i'm starting to think i should
[18:57] <getseclectic> if i stick the name server in resolv.conf it works fine
[18:57] <daftykins> sorry i didn't realise it did that
[19:03] <laspahr> eeee: that command didn't work
[19:03] <eeee> laspahr: what was the error
[19:04] <laspahr> dpkg: error: --set-selections takes no arguments
[19:06] <Guest34975> hi hi
[19:06] <Guest34975> anybody here??
[19:06] <braveleg> Hi everybody.
[19:06] <braveleg> I got a problem with my laptop.
[19:07] <eeee> laspahr: dpkg --set-selections < /path/to/packages
[19:07] <eeee> sorry
[19:07] <braveleg> lenovo g510
[19:08] <Guest34975> wats the singapore channel?/
[19:08] <laspahr> eeee: dpkg: error: operation requires read/write access to dpkg status area
[19:08] <braveleg> I've installed ubuntu 14 on it and then tried to install additional amd drivers
[19:08] <laspahr> tried it w/ sudo but it just gave me a new line after
[19:08] <laspahr> so did it work?
[19:08] <braveleg> Installation was succesfull, though after reloading the system didn't manage to enter graphic mode
[19:09] <OerHeks> !sg
[19:09] <boakill> need help with terminial settings, CTRL+C no longer cancels processes. How do I change it back/
[19:09] <eeee> laspahr: i think so, you have to run a couple commands now
[19:09] <laspahr> eeee: like?
[19:09] <OerHeks> Guest34975, #ubuntu-sg >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SingaporeTeam
[19:10] <braveleg> Could anybody give a hint how can I return to default drivers?
[19:10] <braveleg> Via console.
[19:10] <blz> Why does apt-get try to install a full-fledged desktop environment when I try to install nvidia-319?  Is there a way to *just* get the drivers?  I'm installing nvidia-319 vdpauinfo & libvdpau1
[19:10] <eeee> laspahr: run sudo apt-get -y update
[19:10] <daftykins> braveleg: drives for what?
[19:11] <Guest51457> how can i remove registered vga devices without using terminal? i can only modify files (liveusb)
[19:11] <Joseph_> Hi
[19:11] <eeee> laspahr: then run sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade
[19:11] <daftykins> blz: more to the point why didn't you just use xbmcbuntu instead of going through all this.
[19:11] <braveleg> graphic card
[19:11] <Joseph_> seems sudo aptitude update  is working
[19:11] <daftykins> braveleg: what kind and what did you install?
[19:11] <Joseph_> it will help us ?
[19:11] <blz> daftykins, because I needed the expert-install mode to set up RAID
[19:11] <blz> daftykins, and the expert-mode install doesn't work/isn't supported in xbmcbuntu
[19:11] <Joseph_> sudo aptitude update is working
[19:12] <braveleg> I found "Additional drivers" icon in applications list and then chosed "Proprietary drivers" for graphic card. Is that what did you asked about?
[19:13] <laspahr> eeee: it's saying between 1h 30m to 2h...
[19:13] <laspahr> screw slow wifi
[19:13] <daftykins> braveleg: yes but i still need to know what *kind* of card you have to know whether it was nvidia or fglrx you were offered
[19:13] <RavinduL> Guys, I am using the 'try ubuntu' option on my laptop before installing the OS itself, and I noticed that the webcam isn't usable although it is detected. The webcam is a Bisoncam NB Pro. Do any of you know how to fix this?
[19:14] <boakill> how to i make console set ctrl+c to cancel
[19:15] <RavinduL> Guys, I am using the 'try ubuntu' option on my laptop before installing the OS itself, and I noticed that the webcam isn't usable although it is detected. The webcam is a Bisoncam NB Pro. Do any of you know how to fix this?
[19:15] <braveleg> Ah, right. I have AMD Radeon R7.
[19:15] <braveleg> And was offered fglrx.
[19:15] <OerHeks> boakill, how did you disable it?
[19:15] <anddam> hi, I'm trying to update a edubuntu 13.04 to latest ubuntu, Software Updater reports "Failed download latest repository" "Check your internet connection"
[19:15] <daftykins> RavinduL: please do not repeat yourself
[19:16] <braveleg> lspci console command, by the way, didn't even detect it. I guess it might be related.
[19:16] <anddam> I don't have any further info, where can I get those?
[19:16] <daftykins> !eol | anddam Follow the last link here
[19:16] <RavinduL> oops, im sorry, but will anyone help me?
[19:16] <blz> RavinduL, how are you trying to use it?
[19:17] <RavinduL> blz, what do you mean by how? I'm  trying to use a webcam...
[19:18] <RavinduL> blz, the hardware gets detected but I don't see an image.
[19:18] <blz> RavinduL, what process are you going through in your attempt to capture an image?
[19:18] <blz> RavinduL, what program are you using?
[19:18] <blz> RavinduL, what settings are set?
[19:18] <blz> RavinduL, etc
[19:18] <laspahr> eeee: ~1hr now .-.
[19:19] <RavinduL> Cheese webcam booth. And as mentioned before, the webcam is one that came with my laptop.
[19:19] <RavinduL> Not seperate hardware.
[19:19] <RavinduL> blz, what do you mean by settings?
[19:19] <blz> RavinduL, can you launch cheese from the command line and tell us if any error messages appear?
[19:19] <RavinduL> Nope. sudo cheese and cheese both work perfectly.
[19:19] <blz> RavinduL, so log messages at all?
[19:19] <anddam> daftykins: confirmed it's EOL, reading how to upgrade now
[19:20] <blz> *no
[19:20] <eeee> laspahr: yeah it's upgrading everything
[19:20] <RavinduL> blz, nope.
[19:20] <blz> RavinduL, in the cheese preferences, can you check that your webcam is selected?
[19:20] <laspahr> eeee: slow wifi sucks...
[19:20] <RavinduL> blz, it is.
[19:21] <blz> Hmm that is very strange.  I'm out of ideas... sorry =/
[19:22] <RavinduL> blz, do you think that as I have not installed Ubuntu yet, this happens?
[19:22] <ses1984> RavinduL: it should work even though ubuntu is not installed
[19:22] <RavinduL> blz, will it be fixed if I install thewebcam?
[19:22] <RavinduL> ses1984, Well it doesnt
[19:23] <ses1984> RavinduL: probably if it does not work in 'try ubuntu' then it also will not work if you install it
[19:23] <ses1984> what model laptop is it?
[19:23] <blz> RavinduL, I thought the webcam was already installed?
[19:23] <blz> RavinduL, but yes, it could be a driver issue
[19:23] <blz> RavinduL, i'd look it up on google if I were you
[19:23] <RavinduL> blz, How can I get drivers then?
[19:23] <anddam> daftykins: btw the software upgrade asked for a 700MB update even without editing sources.list I'm doing that now and will eventually follow the wiki
[19:23] <blz> RavinduL, you have to google your webcam's model and do a bunch of reading
[19:23] <blz> I'm not sure offhand
[19:24] <anddam> daftykins: thanks
[19:24] <ses1984> RavinduL: what model laptop is it?
[19:24] <boakill> how do you make terminal cancel with ctrl+c
[19:25] <ses1984> you press ctrl+c ?
[19:25] <boakill> ses1984: doesn't do it, hwo do you set it
[19:25] <braveleg> You don't know?
[19:25] <RavinduL> ses1984, its a CLEVO W240HU
[19:25] <anddam> bye
[19:25] <ses1984> ctrl+c just sends an abort signal but whatever is running doesn't have to obey or maybe it's trying to obey but not done doing that yet
[19:27] <ses1984> RavinduL: hmm i tried googling a few things about the laptop model number and nothing came up. sorry.
[19:28] <ses1984> braveleg: sometimes if a program has rapidly dumped a huge amount of text to terminal, if you press ctrl-c, the program may terminate or have already been terminated but the buffered text is not done getting dumped by the terminal emulator
[19:29] <ses1984> i mean, boakill, what i just said ^
[19:34] <CooLL> hi all
[19:34] <blz> Is it possible to install nvidia-331-updates without installing a full-fledged graphical desktop environment?
[19:35] <Chaos_Zero> I used cx_freeze to compile my script and it made one binary and a lot of .SO files. Works great when run from terminal. To run from the terminal I know it can be placed in /usr/bin, but where do the .so files go?
[19:36] <Chaos_Zero> what is the standard folder I can place them in? (if any)
[19:36] <threeseas> is there an easy way to remove all the windows like distracting bloat salesware from ubuntu 14.04?
[19:39] <uRock> threeseas, what "bloatware" are you referring to?
[19:39] <packetscaper> Hello
[19:39] <eeee> threeseas: are you refering to the dash stuff ?
[19:42] <alpha> a
[19:44] <wolter> Can I install a package bypassing a depenency and not get "but it is not going to be installed" messages on dependencies of further packages I am going to install?
[19:44] <wolter> dependency*
[19:45] <mdn15> \Does kernel 3.13.0-30 have support for xen?  I followed Ubuntu's steps to upgrade the Hardware Enablement Stack and I am now seeing kernel panics in my xen vm's.
[19:46] <przemek> hello my client requested /home - grow  , partition , what does it mean? Is it Fill to maximum allowable size?
[19:47] <mdn15> I am getting a netdev watchdog transmit queue 0 timed out panic
[19:48] <threeseas> I installed samba buit cannot find it in all teh buy this shit stuff
[19:48] <jobarte> hi guys
[19:48] <cool_boy> is it possible to append output of server logs on local system? without killing process on server??
[19:49] <mdn15> hi jobarte
[19:49] <jobarte> mdh, hi \o\
[19:49] <ioudas> does anyone know how to enable vcstime on ubuntu 14.04 desktop edition? I have it set to console mode /etc/kbd/config lists do_vcstime=yes
[19:49] <jobarte> I have a little question that will decide if I will search for this or not
[19:49] <ioudas> yet it does not show up until i manually execute it
[19:50] <jobarte> is possible to measure data traffic in/out by protocol?
[19:50] <ioudas> What am I missing? Also how do i shut off the monitor from powering off in the console
[19:53] <threeseas> does samba no longer work in 14.04?
[19:53] <lotuspsychje> !info samba
[19:53] <jobarte> is possible to measure data traffic in/out by protocol?
[19:53] <lotuspsychje> jobarte: you mean a bandwith monitor?
[19:54] <jobarte> lotuspsychje, yes, but I need to see usage by protocol (http, https, ftp, smtp)
[19:54] <jobarte> today I use vnstat, munin and observium
[19:54] <jobarte> and locally nload
[19:54] <furkan> jobarte: wireshark maybe? that's probably overkill for just measuring traffic, but just off the top of my head
[19:55] <aban_> I am going to buy "TP-LINK TL-WN951N 300 Mbps Advanced Wireless N PCI " -  is this one working in ubuntu ?
[19:56] <jobarte> furkan, is possible to use wireshark on ubuntu-cli?
[19:57] <Redban> Hi , How do I enable Java in chromium browser? Java working fine in Firefox.
[19:57] <threeseas> is there another way to access a printer connected to the ubuntu box from another computer on the network.... samba is installed but does not really exist
[19:57] <furkan> jobarte: it comes with a GUI i don't know if it supports CLI as well
[19:57] <lotuspsychje> !java | Redban
[19:58] <Pici> jobarte: no, use tcpdump instead.
[19:58] <Redban> ubottu I have java installed and working fine
[19:59] <lotuspsychje> !cups | threeseas
[20:12] <liox_> hi
[20:12] <daftykins> welcome.
[20:13] <ipso> Running Ubuntu Raring, I'm trying to apt-get update, but its saying it can't find a bunch of files, when I manually check http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/, there is no directory for raring... Do I need to use a different repository?
[20:13] <liox_> I upgrade my php to 5.5 was 5.3 and he also upgraded the apache 2.2. to 2.4 and it broke my web server all vhosts are with Forbidden anyone have any suggestions to help me?
[20:13] <daftykins> !eol | ipso You're running EOL, please follow the last link. but a clean install would be easier
[20:14] <liox_> my server is linode vas ubuntu 14.04 with ISOConfig3
[20:14] <liox_> ISPConfig3
[20:14] <daftykins> liox_: apache channels would be more relevant, but definitely also ask in #ubuntu-server
[20:14] <ipso> daftykins, thanks
[20:15] <daftykins> ipso: your first port of call would be apache's access log to see what requests are doing
[20:21] <lotuspsychje> !13.10
[20:23] <crackhead> can anyone help me get my newly compiled driver to install? I'm stuck at the last step.. insmod wont' work.. and I don't know why!
[20:25] <funnymouth> i like to lik the bluud
[20:25] <funnymouth> out of in the person
[20:25] <funnymouth> i see ur handsome face dont b sad about it
[20:26] <funnymouth> come on
[20:26] <funnymouth> :)
[20:28] <laspahr> eeee: what now, It's asking me to Configure grub-pc
[20:29] <cdm10> Question -- does Ubuntu EOL mean the repositories are unavailable, or just that they won't get new packages?
[20:30] <daftykins> cdm10: it means a distribution version is no longer supported, thus will no longer receive security updates - and so you should not use it
[20:30] <cdm10> daftykins: Due to some bugs in particular software versions, I am using an Ubuntu Quantal virtual machine -- however, as of today I am unable to install any packages.
[20:31] <cdm10> daftykins: I understand that it will not receive security updates. Does that mean that the existing package repositories should be unavailable?
[20:31] <amartinez> hello
[20:31] <cool_boy> how to check on which port an application is running?
[20:31] <cool_boy> or how to check on specific port what is running?
[20:31] <daftykins> cdm10: yes they are taken offline after a release reaches EOL status
[20:31] <cdm10> daftykins: Alright, thanks.
[20:31] <daftykins> cool_boy: netstat -tuln
[20:31] <OerHeks> lsof -i >port>
[20:32] <daftykins> cdm10: i'd recommend you go back to 12.04.4 precise which is LTS, still in support for a year or more
[20:32] <cdm10> daftykins: yep, that was my thought.
[20:33] <cool_boy> OerHeks: lsof -i 8069?? to check on 8069?
[20:33] <daftykins> cool_boy: just run mine.
[20:33] <Artemis3> cdm10, the repository is available but in a different place, and yes no updates anymore, the packages there are frozen
[20:34] <cdm10> Artemis3: yep, was informed of the different place just now.
[20:35] <cool_boy> daftykins: it is just telling local Address, Foreign Address, State
[20:35] <danileigh79> Anybody know if there is a way to auto-hide the launcher bar only if certain criteria are met, e.g. opening Chrome browser?
[20:35] <OerHeks> cool_boy, lsof -i :8069
[20:35] <daftykins> cool_boy: oh yeah of course, my apologies.
[20:36] <OerHeks> danileigh79, no, there is no such option
[20:36] <cool_boy> OerHeks: it returns "python  936 ubuntu    5u  IPv4   9107      0t0  TCP *:8069 (LISTEN)"
[20:36] <danileigh79> OerHeks: Okay, thanks
[20:37] <cool_boy> daftykins: np , thanks )
[20:37] <Artemis3> daftykins, support for 12.04 LTS is 5 years lol so 12+5 = 17
[20:38] <daftykins> Artemis3: that's lovely but irrelevant for me, if i'd really wanted to give the question asker a specific answer i'd have used a bot trigger or looked it up.
[20:38] <Artemis3> its kinda more than "a year" tho.
[20:41] <daftykins> Artemis3: yeah, apply such info to the person asking in future please.
[20:45] <braulio> Hi, I'm  trying to create a bootable USB with Unetbootin, but for some reason I can't browse through my files to select the ISO (it only shows Computer/root and no files)... also when I select the USB device, it doesn't show me any option, although my flash drive mounts just fine. Any suggestion on what should I do?
[20:45] <daftykins> braulio: which OS is this in?
[20:46] <compdoc> doesnt Unetbootin change the install to add its own crap in there?
[20:46] <Artemis3> technically it is you suggesting it and you mentioning "a year" indeed im correcting you there to not mislead people thinking that the LTS will end 3 years before it should :) But thats ok if you don't want receive any comments about your comments.
[20:46] <Artemis3> daftykins
[20:46] <bekks> compdoc: Uhm, no? :)
[20:47] <daftykins> Artemis3: do not highlight me again please.
[20:48] <ste_> ed2k://|file|Tutta.Colpa.Di.Freud.2014.iTALiAN.DVDRip.XviD-TRL.[tutankemule.net].avi|1467924480|16AC80494C7E9592645616076FABB0FF|h=MCSM2NJRUTK2YEAJLUO3RDKDHS2N5SJL|/
[20:48] <braulio> daftykins: I'm in Lubuntu 14.04
[20:48] <daftykins> braulio: ok nevermind, i was going to suggest an alternative if you were creating from Windows
[20:49] <Artemis3> daftykins, you can configure your irc client accordingly, and you may use your client ability to ignore users. Try to cool down more in public channel please.
[20:49] <braulio> daftykins: I'm exactly trying to create a Windows bootable USB, I always used it when I was in Xubuntu, but I have no idea why this is happening.
[20:49] <OerHeks> Artemis3, please stop beiing picky, and read more carefull > .... still in support for a year or 'more'
[20:50] <cuddylier> Anyone know how to type ` on a normal windows keyboard?
[20:50] <MarcGuay> Hi folks.  14.04.  What does it mean when the screen dims?  Seems to happen sometimes when a screen is taking a long time to process something and other times looks like a bit of a freezing bug?
[20:50] <paolo_> sera
[20:50] <MarcGuay> Ok, in this case it looks like Aptana crashed...
[20:50] <OerHeks> MarcGuay, i usually press ' + space
[20:51] <eeee> cuddylier: it's next to the "1" on the keyboard
[20:51] <cuddylier> eeee: Oh, "?
[20:51] <MarcGuay> cuddylier: top left corner
[20:51] <cuddylier> Ahh
[20:51] <cuddylier> `
[20:51] <cuddylier> Got it, thanks, silly me
[20:51] <MarcGuay> OerHeks: Was that comment for me?
[20:51] <OerHeks> sorry MarcGuay , was for cuddylier
[20:51] <MarcGuay> I expect more from you
[20:52] <OerHeks> MarcGuay, that freezing dim is normal, while doing very large calculations
[20:52] <paolo_> ce nessuno che mi aiuta
[20:52] <MarcGuay> Java crash actually, I should have guessed...
[20:53] <alazare619> on /etc/network/interfaces how do you set multiple dns servers
[20:54] <alazare619> do is just do dns-nameserver1 then dns-nameserver2 or what
[20:54] <laspahr> eeee: help?
[20:54] <laspahr> Configuring grub-pc?
[20:54] <eeee> grub-pc ?
[20:54] <laspahr> yeah..
[20:54] <eeee> what's that?
[20:55] <laspahr> grub-pc package is being upgraded
[20:55] <eeee> oh ok
[20:55] <laspahr> The grub-pc package is being upgraded. This menu allows you to select which devices you'd like      │
[20:55] <laspahr>  │ grub-install to be automatically run for, if any.                                                   │
[20:55] <laspahr>  │                                                                                                     │
[20:55] <laspahr>  │ Running grub-install automatically is recommended in most situations, to prevent the installed      │
[20:55] <laspahr>  │ GRUB core image from getting out of sync with GRUB modules or grub.cfg.                             │
[20:55] <laspahr>  │                                                                                                     │
[20:55] <laspahr>  │ If you're unsure which drive is designated as boot drive by your BIOS, it is often a good idea to   │
[20:55] <laspahr>  │ install GRUB to all of them.                                                                        │
[20:55] <laspahr>  │                                                                                                     │
[20:55] <laspahr>  │ Note: it is possible to install GRUB to partition boot records as well, and some appropriate        │
[20:55] <laspahr>  │ partitions are offered here. However, this forces GRUB to use the blocklist mechanism, which makes  │
[20:55] <eeee> nevermind
[20:55] <laspahr>  │ it less reliable, and therefore is not recommended.                                                 │
[20:55] <OerHeks> !paste | laspahr
[20:56] <laspahr> how do I use paste.ubuntu?
[20:56] <eeee> laspahr: install grub to your /dev/sda
[20:56] <eeee> laspahr: apt-get install pastebinit
[20:57] <laspahr> hold up.. how do I select it?
[20:57] <Shadow}}> Hello; This line was g... Uh nvm, My entire screen just went purple...Lets start with that..
[20:57] <eeee> when you want to send the output of a command to paste.ubuntu use "| pastebinit" e.g "ls /home | pastebinit"
[20:57] <Shadow}}> Looks like infrared...
[20:58] <Shadow}}> Nvm again, Bad connection. Anywayy... This line "sudo service networking restart" <- Did I mess this up?
[20:59] <eeee> Shadow}}: no but it is sudo service network-manager restart
[20:59] <Shadow}}> Ahhh. Thank you eeee
[20:59] <cuddylier> Anyone know why on ubuntu 14.04 putting the interfaces up and down screws it up and deletes all additional interfaces? http://puu.sh/ahcj2/b5ddeb240c.png
[20:59] <cuddylier> If I reboot all the interfaces come back fine
[20:59] <laspahr> eeee: how do I select sda..? /:
[20:59] <cuddylier> but putting eth0 up and down kills them all
[21:00] <Shadow}}> Kept telling me The Job had Stopped and Was running, Confusing me >->
[21:00] <eeee> laspahr: why is grub-pc installing anyways? the dpkg is doing that?
[21:00] <laspahr> I guess so, when you told me to type 'sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade'
[21:01] <Smeg42> Question: I believe I have discovered a issue with the kernel in 14.04 dealing with the Kernel Key Managment can I submit a bug report or could the problem be answered here.
[21:02] <laspahr> aha I figured out how to select, but which one do I need to select? sda, sda6, or sdb?
[21:03] <laspahr> eeee: ^
[21:03] <Smeg42> be careful wrong choice there leads to ow I lost my OS today
[21:03] <eeee> laspahr: sda
[21:03] <laspahr> ookie dokie
[21:04] <eeee> sdb is still the ext hdd right ?
[21:04] <OerHeks> !bug | Smeg42
[21:04] <laspahr> I believe so eeee
[21:04] <eeee> (lsblk)
[21:04] <Smeg42> ubottu: thanks
[21:04] <laspahr> okay, it's finished now
[21:06] <laspahr> so after sudo apt-get deselect-upgrade what do I do?
[21:06] <mojtaba> Hi, I am using Mac as a remote machine and Ubuntu as a local machine and I have enabled X forwarding on Mac. But the problem is that, when I try to open an application, it opens in Mac not in Ubuntu. Do you know what should I do? (I heard changing the $DISPLAY manually is not safe.)
[21:07] <eeee> laspahr: i think all the packages should be installed now
[21:07] <laspahr> should I restart? /: it says computer needs to restart to finish installing updates
[21:08] <eeee> yeah
[21:08] <laspahr> okay, I'll brb then :)
[21:08] <eeee> ok
[21:10] <mojtaba> Hi, I am using Mac as a remote machine and Ubuntu as a local machine and I have enabled X forwarding on Mac. But the problem is that, when I try to open an application, it opens in Mac not in Ubuntu. Do you know what should I do? (I heard changing the $DISPLAY manually is not safe.)
[21:11] <laspahr> back :)
[21:11] <eeee> wb
[21:11] <eeee> all good?
[21:12] <laspahr> looks the same as before I restarted
[21:12] <blubberbop> In respect to timezones, are there timezones that have fractions? like, +1.5 hours for example?
[21:12] <laspahr> yes blubberbop I believe so
[21:13] <laspahr> unless I'm mistaken
[21:13] <blubberbop> laspahr: wut... ? There goes my dogmatic belief that it was always +1 +2 +3 +4 etc... which would make sense..
[21:13] <OerHeks> blubberbop, some timezones have half hours
[21:13] <blubberbop> Yes its true, unless its not... Alrighty! :)
[21:13] <laspahr> When I went to Merida, MEX I think it's in between Central and Eastern US Timezones
[21:13] <eeee> i dont think so, but while installing ubuntu i noticed that some areas are in another vertical line but in different time zones
[21:14] <eeee> it's pretty weird
[21:14] <blubberbop> I have somebody claiming that caracas has like +30 minutes over some other timezone..
[21:14] <blubberbop> I'm weirded out..
[21:14] <laspahr> eeee: is there anything else I need to do? it's not the same as it was before, but that's bc I don't have all the ppas
[21:15] <laspahr> Ah i need to install boot-repair...
[21:15] <Shadow}}> Erm. Wouldn't that imply... Wait not why I'm here, Here cause my flash player seems to be buffering slow. Is there some sort of settings I can change to speed that up?
[21:16] <eeee> laspahr: how is it different from before the install ?
[21:17] <eeee> laspahr: if it's booting up fine, no need for boot-repai
[21:17] <eeee> *boot-repair
[21:17] <laspahr> I mean, it's not the same since the fresh install. and it's not booting up correctly, I have to hit F9 each time it boots
[21:17] <laspahr> so I can choose Ubuntu
[21:17] <laspahr> then that goes to grub, which boots to Ubuntu
[21:17] <Grille> hey, i have a little/big problem upgrading my system 12.04.4 … reboot still works :)  http://nopaste.info/2a65ccde85.html
[21:17] <Shadow}}> Heya eeee; Does increasing the size of which Flash can store data increase video buffering at all?
[21:18] <eeee> laspahr: you can fix that yourself btw
[21:18] <laspahr> w/o boot repair?
[21:18] <Grille> procps cannot be configured … and all following packages depends on this
[21:18] <eeee> i think so yeah
[21:18] <laspahr> or w/o your help? lol
[21:19] <laspahr> cuz I've used boot-repair before, but if I don't need it I won't use it
[21:19] <eeee> it's up to you
[21:19] <laspahr> well how do I remove the ppa for boot-repair..?
[21:19] <laspahr> if I go w/o it
[21:19] <Shadow}}> Kay... So... How do I change Flash storage on Xubuntu? o.o
[21:19] <cuddylier> Is there a way to use ifup eth0 to bring back up all the eth0 interfaces rather than doing them all manually?
[21:19] <Aki-Thinkpad> I'm at ubuntu forums, trying to login... It lets me login, but it then immediately reverts me back to unregistered.
[21:20] <eeee> laspahr: when you lsblk, is there a mounted at /boot/efi ?
[21:20] <laspahr> sda2
[21:20] <k1l_> Aki-Thinkpad: try #ubuntuforums if their website is broken
[21:20] <quickezed> I've installed postgresql-9.3 via apt-get however I don't have a /etc/postgresql/ directory. psql is present, along with the init script. /etc/postgresql-common/ also exists.
[21:20] <eeee> ok open the terminal
[21:21] <quickezed> Any ideas what has happened?
[21:21] <laspahr> already on terminal... lol
[21:21] <laspahr> I rarely close the terminal haha
[21:21] <eeee> ok, cd /boot/efi
[21:22] <eeee> then ls
[21:22] <eeee> laspahr: do you see a Boot and EFI folder?
[21:22] <Shadow}}> Yes, no, maybe can I repeat the question..without it being spam? Nope? Kay then. Gonna go look around... If i come back cause I messed something up I blame the silent ones =.=
[21:22] <laspahr> eeee: yes!
[21:24] <eeee> cd Boot
[21:24] <eeee> wait
[21:24] <laspahr> no?
[21:24] <eeee> sorry, cd EFI
[21:24] <Grille> hmmm, it was net.ipv4.tcp_mem in /etc/sysctl.d/30-iscsitarget.conf
[21:24] <laspahr> okay
[21:24] <laspahr> next
[21:25] <eeee> laspahr: cd Boot && cp bootx64.efi bootx64.efi.backup && ls
[21:25] <eeee> cd Boot first
[21:26] <eeee> then run the cp command
[21:26] <laspahr> cp: missing destination file operand after ‘bootx64.efi.backup’
[21:26] <eeee> yeah sorry
[21:26] <laspahr> cp: cannot create regular file ‘bootx64.efi.backup’: Permission denied
[21:26] <eeee> sudo cp
[21:27] <laspahr> bkpbootx64.efi bootx64.efi bootx64.efi.backup
[21:28] <laspahr> eeee: now what?
[21:28] <eeee> seems boot-repair has already been there, bkpboot... is its doing i think
[21:28] <eeee> anyways we'll continue
[21:28] <laspahr> okay..?
[21:29] <eeee> type rm bootx64.efi
[21:30] <eeee> then cd /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu
[21:30] <laspahr> rm: remove write-protected regular file ‘bootx64.efi’?
[21:30] <eeee> yeah
[21:30] <laspahr> Permission denied
[21:30] <ikonia> laspahr: have you not done a re-install yet ?
[21:30] <laspahr> one sec
[21:30] <eeee> sudo
[21:31] <laspahr> eeee: now cd /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu?
[21:31] <laspahr> ikonia: I reinstalled Ubuntu
[21:31] <laspahr> fresh, had a backup but trying to fix boot issues
[21:31] <ikonia> laspahr: why is it not working then ?
[21:31] <eeee> laspahr: yeah
[21:31] <laspahr> ikonia: idk
[21:31] <laspahr> eeee: then?
[21:32] <ikonia> laspahr: did it work after a clean install or just not work after the re-install
[21:32] <eeee> ikonia: he has to press f9 to boot into grub, i think the efi is hard coded
[21:32] <ikonia> eeee: while I would agree, based on the fact that he said "he had this working" before he screwed it with an ubuntu-touch install, it seems unlikley
[21:32] <eeee> ikonia: he had boot-repair, it would have fixed this
[21:33] <ikonia> this seems all very unlikley
[21:33] <diphther1al> hey, i'm currently booted into windows, but i have an external drive attached onto which i'd like to install ubuntu from an ISO i've downloaded
[21:33] <laspahr> eeee: can we finish later..? I gotta go /:
[21:33] <ikonia> that it worked first time out of the box, then broke with ubuntu touch, then a re-install doens't work out of the box
[21:33] <eeee> noo
[21:33] <eeee> you cant boot
[21:33] <laspahr> I can't..?
[21:33] <eeee> hold on
[21:33] <diphther1al> i don't have the option of making bootable media right now; is there some way for me to install it onto that drive?
[21:33] <laspahr> I won't turn off
[21:33] <laspahr> it'll stay on
[21:33] <laspahr> it's plugged in
[21:33] <bekks> diphther1al: Not using Windows.
[21:34] <eeee> its 2 more commands
[21:34] <laspahr> quickly pls..?
[21:34] <laspahr> my family's leaving me lol
[21:34] <diphther1al> bekks: ah, fair enough
[21:34] <diphther1al> perhaps i'll attempt to use DriveDroid to install it, then
[21:34] <eeee> cp grubx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi
[21:34] <eeee> actually one command
[21:34] <diphther1al> (it's an android app that allows you to make your phone bootable; it includes a few linux isos, among them an ubuntu livecd)
[21:35] <laspahr> done?
[21:35] <eeee> yeah
[21:35] <laspahr> perfect
[21:35] <laspahr> thanks sooo much!
[21:35] <tyv_ls_gm> why does firefox have so many problems running google maps street view?
[21:35] <eeee> np
[21:36] <ikonia> tyv_ls_gm: it's not firefox, it's the plugin and linux in general
[21:36] <tyv_ls_gm> so what's up with that? ikonia ?
[21:37] <tyv_ls_gm> i need maps
[21:37] <Aki-Thinkpad> !ping
[21:37] <tyv_ls_gm> is there =like an app or soething that will work better on ubuntu?
[21:37] <ikonia> tyv_ls_gm: ask google
[21:37] <ikonia> tyv_ls_gm: no
[21:37] <ikonia> tyv_ls_gm: it's the plugin required to display maps has pretty average/below average linux support
[21:37] <tyv_ls_gm> lol. good one. you owuld think chrome being open source developed would work well with an open source os
[21:38] <ikonia> tyv_ls_gm: what does chrome have to do with anything ?
[21:38] <ikonia> tyv_ls_gm: you said firefox
[21:38] <tyv_ls_gm> ikonia, chromium open source project?
[21:38] <ikonia> tyv_ls_gm: what does that have to do with anything ?
[21:38] <tyv_ls_gm> yeah well the same chit is going on with chrome
[21:38] <admin_> liaotian\
[21:38] <ikonia> tyv_ls_gm: right - because it's the PLUGIN
[21:38] <ikonia> tyv_ls_gm: please control your language also
[21:39] <tyv_ls_gm> is there a way to tell if it's my interenet? oh sry, i thought it was ok. ok, is there a better plugin?
[21:39] <tyv_ls_gm> which plugin is it ikonia ?
[21:39] <ikonia> tyv_ls_gm: no
[21:39] <ikonia> tyv_ls_gm: it's a specific plugin
[21:39] <tyv_ls_gm> which one?
[21:39] <ikonia> tyv_ls_gm: it's a flash based one
[21:40] <ikonia> can't remember the exact name/version
[21:40] <tyv_ls_gm> oh ok. yeah flash has a lot of issues on linux huh.
[21:40] <OerHeks> html5 should do wonders for maps
[21:40] <ikonia> OerHeks: maps isn't html5 compatible is it ?
[21:40] <Aki-Thinkpad> I am wondering of some good places to round up some people to work on a plugin for the ubuntu sdk.  Would Ubuntu-Discourse be appropriate?
[21:40] <tyv_ls_gm> is there something i can do about using a map with similar features to google maps? ikonia ?
[21:41] <diphther1al> well, thanks again
[21:41] <ikonia> tyv_ls_gm: I'm not aware of a replacement for google maps that has good linux support
[21:42] <tyv_ls_gm> thanks ikonia i'll see if i can find something
[21:45] <tyv_ls_gm> ikonia, in case you wanted to know scroll down to "Helpful Reply" : https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1002684
[21:46] <tyv_ls_gm> dude, ikonia it works
[21:46] <ikonia> tyv_ls_gm: that reply says "the problem is still there"
[21:47] <tyv_ls_gm> sorry, the next one
[21:48] <Findegil> Lol
[21:49] <eddy_> a
[21:49] <Baako> hi guys i have a folder in which al the contents is assign to the root use because i unzip using sudo
[21:50] <Baako> how can i change it to the normal user now
[21:50] <tyv_ls_gm> ikonia, do you notice the '?' in the end of the url that says ?force=webgl ? what is the '?' for? i dont see the program logic in it. anyone know why?
[21:51] <eeee> Baako: sudo chown <user> *
[21:51] <ikonia> tyv_ls_gm: what ?
[21:51] <ikonia> tyv_ls_gm: what URL ?
[21:51] <tyv_ls_gm> https://www.google.com/maps/preview/?force=webgl
[21:51] <eeee> (in the directory where you want all the files ownership to change)
[21:51] <tyv_ls_gm> i also dont understand why the word 'preview' is in there
[21:52] <ikonia> tyv_ls_gm: it's just a url ??
[21:52] <tyv_ls_gm> ok nvm ikonia thx though
[21:52] <eeee> Baako: then sudo chgrp <user> *
[21:52] <Baako> ikonia the group of the folders and content is "root"
[21:52] <HiddenDjinn> tyv_ls_gm: that's an argument passed to web server
[21:52] <Baako> and the owner is "root"
[21:52] <ikonia> tyv_ls_gm: it's just a way of identifying parts of the application
[21:52] <ikonia> Baako: ?
[21:52] <ikonia> Baako: what is ?
[21:52] <Baako> because of that i cant save the files
[21:53] <eeee> Baako: you need to use sudo chown & sudo chgrp to change the owner & group, check the commands i sent
[21:53] <Baako> eee the user now is called Baako
[21:53] <eeee> know that it will change the ownership of all files in the directory you are in
[21:54] <jhutchins> tyv_ls_gm: That usually indicates that you're dealing with a PHP driven system and what's to the right of the ? is the argument that specifies what page to generate.
[21:54] <tyv_ls_gm> thansk ikonia what is that way called ? like i dont think it's perl or php or html, but it has to have some language, is it the giggle filesystem?
[21:54] <tyv_ls_gm> google*
[21:54] <ikonia> tyv_ls_gm: it's just a url
[21:54] <tyv_ls_gm> well, dont they have a specific language tow riting their url's?
[21:54] <tyv_ls_gm> w*
[21:54] <Baako> eeee the folder is called escalate so its sudo chown & sudo chgrp baako
[21:54] <ikonia> urls are just text
[21:55] <Baako> how will i add he folder?
[21:55] <eeee> Baako: add the folder type sudo chown baako escalate & sudo chgrp ...
[21:56] <Baako> ...
[21:57] <Baako> eeee sudo chown baako escalate & sudo chgrp baako escalate
[21:58] <eeee> yeah
[21:58] <Baako> eeee [1]+  Stopped                 sudo chown unyime escalate2/
[21:59] <Baako> eeee [1]+  Stopped                 sudo chown baako  escalate2/
[21:59] <TJ-> Baako: you put the processes into the background and it is waiting for you to enter your password. type "fg" to bring to foreground
[22:00] <TJ-> Baako: You might need to do "fg" twice to bring the 2nd job up too
[22:00] <TJ-> Baako: the correct command should have used "&&" to join them, not "&"
[22:00] <Baako> TJ- what do you mean please
[22:00] <TJ-> Baako: " sudo chown baako escalate && sudo chgrp ..."
[22:01] <eeee> Baako: you didn't type the whole command did you ?
[22:01] <TJ-> "&" puts the command before it into the background
[22:01] <Baako> TJ thanks will ry
[22:01] <eeee> Baako: i meant sudo bla bla, then type sudo bla bla
[22:02] <Baako> TJ the mean folder escalate as change permission to me but the other files and folders still belongs to the roor user and roor group
[22:03] <Baako> after escalate2/ should i add * so it will be like escalate2/*
[22:03] <Baako> after escalate/ should i add * so it will be like escalate/*
[22:03] <FKLinguista> Good evening, everyone
[22:03] <TJ-> Baako: To apply changes to all files and sub-directories use the "-R" option, as in "sudo chown -R baako /path/to/base/dir" which will change the owner of /path/to/base/dir and everything in and below it
[22:04] <FKLinguista> I'm here as an Ubuntu/Mint user and I have a question regarding Caja (fork of Nautilus)
[22:04] <FKLinguista> Everyone in #linuxmint seems stumped about it, so I figured I'd try my luck here
[22:04] <grazia> buona sera
[22:04] <FKLinguista> in Caja, I can't navigate to a file by typing part of its name
[22:04] <TJ-> Baako: so in your case if 'escalate' is a directory, you'd do "sudo chown -R baako escalate"
[22:04] <OerHeks> FKLinguista, mint is not supported here, sorry
[22:05] <grazia> !list
[22:05] <Baako> TJ- about the group?
[22:05] <Baako> sudo chown -R baako escalate/ && sudo chgrp -R baako escalate/
[22:05] <FKLinguista> OerHeks, I understand that, but I couldn't get nautilus to navigate that way, either.  Is this a feature that's been removed?
[22:06] <TJ-> Baako: If you want to change both user and group at the same time you can simply do "sudo chown -R baako:baako escalate"
[22:06] <hambonep4u> hello guys.  qq, anyone know of a pastebin server package for ubuntu?   I want to host a pastebin internally on my network
[22:06] <lengtche> I have the latest version of Ubuntu server installed on a server, which I have root access to, but can't access physically. How can I set up software via SSH that would allow me to RDP into it from Windows? I'm researching it and getting quite lost. :\
[22:07] <daftykins> lengtche: server doesn't have a GUI to remote into
[22:07] <Baako> TJ- you are the best Thanks
[22:07] <TJ-> Baako: "chown" takes the option [<user>][:<group>] so you can do any of "chown baako dir" (change only the owner) "chown :baako dir" (change only the group) or "chown baako:baako dir" (change both)
[22:08] <lengtche> daftykins, Oh... Maybe that's why I'm having a hard time finding an answer. lol
[22:09] <daftykins> lengtche: :D indeed, also a *nix host wouldn't really host an RDP server, it'd be another non-microsofty protocol
[22:09] <quorra> hi there
[22:09] <lengtche> It's a dedicated box. I only mentioned RDP, because I don't know what the equivalent is for *nix.
[22:09] <bekks> lengtche: ssh :)
[22:10] <jhutchins> lengtche: You can set up an rdp server if you have a GUI, but you don't really need it, putty or cygwin will get you via ssh, and you can even forward individual GUI applications.
[22:10] <quorra> #help
[22:10] <lengtche> Sounds good! No better time than the present to learn ssh. Thanks! :)
[22:10] <quorra> exit
[22:10] <quorra> quit
[22:13] <jhutchins> lengtche The Linux System Administrator's Guide is an excellent general resource: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/index.html
[22:14] <lengtche> Awesome. I've actually never seen that, despite my hours of researching various subjects.
[22:14] <lengtche> Bookmarked it.
[22:29] <zubir> greetings
[22:29] <daftykins> hi
[22:30] <zubir> i love   irc
[22:36] <ayman> hello every1
[22:37] <koell> hello ayman
[22:42] <ravindu> Hi! I've installed LAMPP on Ubuntu 14.04 and it consists of PHP5, MySQL and stuff like that. Now, if I wanted to uninstall it, should I just remove the directory that it was installed in?
[22:42] <daftykins> ravindu: no, package management is used for install and uninstall
[22:43] <ravindu> daftykins: So can I uninstall it using the Synaptic Package Manager?
[22:43] <daftykins> ravindu: if you installed it via packages yeah, what did you run?
[22:44] <daftykins> did you use tasksel?
[22:44] <ravindu> daftykins: I downloaded the setup off the Apache Friends website.
[22:44] <daftykins> ravindu: oh, you'rea really not supposed to do that.
[22:44] <daftykins> that's now how to use ubuntu.
[22:45] <ravindu> daftykins: Okay now I'm panicking. What do I do?
[22:45] <daftykins> no idea, i'm not familiar with that suite and i'm currently multi-tasking so can't take a look
[22:45] <daftykins> ravindu: did it download as a .deb ?
[22:46] <ravindu> daftykins: Nope. The file was a .run file. I used chmod +x (.run file) and sudo ./(.run file) to install it
[22:46] <blz> I'm having the strangest problem that the guys over at #xbmc were unable to solve.   I'm running ubuntu server 14.04 with the latest nvida drivers installed.  I'm running ALSA w/out pulseaudio.    When I run `speaker-test -c2 -D plughw:1,7` I get noise emanating from my speakers... yet, when check xbmc.log it reports my onboard audio card but not my nvidia one through which I'm doing the sound test.  Any ideas what the problem might be?
[22:47] <blz> here's aplay -L :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7816738/
[22:47] <daftykins> ravindu: look if they provide documentation on a script to run to uninstall
[22:47] <blz> and here's aplay -l :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7816740/
[22:48] <blz> Oh, I should also specify that the nvidia drives are relevant because this is audio out via HDMI.  Sorry to have forgotten that!
[22:49] <ravindu> daftykins: what is a .dat file?
[22:49] <kenr0011001> hola
[22:49] <ravindu> Because theres an uninstall.dat file in the install directory.
[22:52] <ravindu> daftykins: Is the .dat file the uninstallation script?
[22:53] <ravindu> daftykins: According to http://incisiveradar.com/how-to-uninstall-xampp-in-ubuntu/, uninstallation of XAMPP is just a matter of deleting the files.
[22:53] <ravindu> daftykins: Why is this wrong?
[22:55] <Redban> hi, getting sound only through headphones. ubuntu 14.04 plz help
[22:56] <daftykins> ravindu: because in Linux distros with package management, you're supposed to install via packages.
[22:57] <ravindu> daftykins: so whats the worst that could happen if I just delete the folder?
[22:59] <ec2-user> How can I donate to lubuntu? E.g. via paypal?
[23:00] <friendlyfascism> Redban, Have you looked at the sound wiki?
[23:00] <OerHeks> garethrandall, http://community.ubuntu.com/help-information/funding/ or contact your local comunity
[23:01] <Redban> friendlyfascism : I try couple solution I found on askubuntu but nothing worked
[23:01] <friendlyfascism> Redban, You can look also at alsa in the terminal and just make sure you look close at the sound drop adjustments.
[23:02] <friendlyfascism> friendlyfascism : "I try couple solution I found on askubuntu but nothing worked" So that is a no on my question?
[23:02] <friendlyfascism> !sound | Redban
[23:02] <syee> ubuntu
[23:03] <syee> so is DDing onto a drive that already has an iso on it cool?
[23:03] <friendlyfascism> syee, What is your definition of cool?
[23:03] <syee> it will work
[23:04] <garethrandall> Even in http://community.ubuntu.com/help-information/funding/ there is no link to actually donate. It just refers to group applying for money from donations.
[23:04] <eeee> garethrandall: when you download an iso i think there is a link to donate
[23:05] <ravindu> How do I restart Unity in Ubuntu 14.04?
[23:05] <eeee> ravindu: unity --reset
[23:05] <ravindu> eeee: thanks :)
[23:06] <eeee> garethrandall: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/contribute/?version=14.04&architecture=amd64
[23:06] <ravindu> eeee: It says ERROR: the reset option in now depreciated.
[23:06] <eeee> sudo unity --reset ?
[23:06] <ravindu> eeee: It returns the same error
[23:06] <Anais21>  Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://j.mp/1u0OXYW
[23:07] <utopiabel> Atari
[23:07] <kern0011001> hola
[23:07] <garethrandall> eeee: Thanks. Sounds like a good idea.
[23:08] <OerHeks> !ops | Anais21 ( looks like same ip again )
[23:08] <ravindu> Anyone? How do I restart the unity service?
[23:08] <friendlyfascism> ravindu, What ubuntu release?
[23:08] <ravindu> friendlyfascism: what?
[23:09] <friendlyfascism> ravindu, What ubuntu release? That not understandable?
[23:09] <ravindu> friendlyfascism: Oh, Ubuntu 14.04 Trusty Tahr
[23:10] <friendlyfascism> ravindu, Not sure on a restart, you can just logut and back in.
[23:10] <utopiabel> Atari
[23:11]  * kern0011001 slaps utopiabel around a bit with a large trout
[23:11] <ravindu> friendlyfascism: Actually, I just found out... You can type 'unity' in a run box (Alt + F2) and the magic happens. BYe!
[23:11] <ravindu> friendlyfascism: No restart/ log out is necessary.
[23:11] <friendlyfascism> ravindu, I would just want to know if that is correct I see no evidence it is.
[23:13] <eeee> in the ubuntu donate, if you play around with the donation it says same as price of a tshirt, etc. at $100 or so it says same price as pair of sexed Emu chicks, and 2 chicken heads appear, what exactly are sexed Emu chicks ? i need to know if i want to donate no animals are being harmed..
[23:15] <garethrandall> eeee: I believe this just means that the sex of the chicks has been determined. I.e. male or female. Maybe this is just a price comparison. Highly unlikely that any animals are harmed :-)
[23:16] <daftykins> eeee: their gender has been determined
[23:16] <eeee> sorry, i was j/k about them being harmed, was curious about what it meant though, thanks
[23:21] <daftykins> eeee: ;)
[23:25] <__nateb> I'm setting up a server that needs to ping other apis, my client is claiming that it does not trust anybody's ca certificates. My /etc/ssl/certs folder is empty. Is there a package that contains the default trusted ca certs?
[23:25] <__nateb> running ubuntu 14.04 server
[23:26] <lorenz> film
[23:26] <FuzzyWhirlpool> !info ca-certificates | __nateb
[23:27] <__nateb> FuzzyWhirlpool: thanks
[23:29] <FuzzyWhirlpool> yeah, np.
[23:45] <Foxhoundz> I'm trying to set up wpa_supplicant to autoconnect at startup
[23:45] <Foxhoundz> before login
[23:45] <Foxhoundz> Here's the command:  wpa_supplicant -Dwext  -B -C/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa.conf -iwlan0
[23:46] <Foxhoundz> but it returns the following "You may have another wpa_supplicant process already running or the file wa"
[23:46] <Foxhoundz> ...and it continues.
[23:47] <Foxhoundz> I'm on 14.04.
[23:49] <Jackripthatdoor> multiperps operating system with lot of networking tool. build in ufi support,blackbuntu build ubuntugnu/linux 2.6.35-24-gen
[23:50] <Jackripthatdoor> if any has information on this operating system much helped.
[23:50] <OerHeks> Foxhoundz, it is easy to enable wifi on startup, http://askubuntu.com/a/1409   just enable  "Connect automatically" and "Available to all users"
[23:50] <OerHeks> Jackripthatdoor, blackbuntu is not supported here. i have no info, use google or something
[23:51] <Foxhoundz> OerHeks: does this also mean it's available BEFORE logging in? I don't usually log in through the GUI. My  Ubuntu acts as a headless server so most of the time I SSH in only to find that it has no connection
[23:51] <threeseas> is there another way, other than samba, to get computers on a network to see each other?
[23:51] <OerHeks> Foxhoundz, yes, without any user logged in.
[23:51] <Jackripthatdoor> OerHeks Point.
[23:51] <OerHeks> Jackripthatdoor, according to that kernel number, it is pretty old
[23:53] <Jackripthatdoor> thank i'll bark over to google OerHeks.
[23:53] <Foxhoundz> OerHeks: another thing: my headless server is connected via HDMI to my TV. For some reason when I turn the TV on once in a while to use the GUI, I get "no input" message from my TV.
[23:53] <Foxhoundz> As if there was no display output being provided by Ubuntu
[23:54] <Foxhoundz> Arghh
[23:54] <Foxhoundz> Why does open source software have to be so difficult >_<
[23:55] <OerHeks> Foxhoundz, with XBMC right ?
[23:55] <Foxhoundz> OerHeks: XBMC is installed but I don't have it running usually
[23:56] <Foxhoundz> I tap on the wireless keyboard in hopes of waking the GUI and seeing a login screen
[23:56] <Foxhoundz> but my TV still shows "no input"
[23:56] <Freeder> Hello. I moved a hard drive to a new machine. GRUB menu comes up fine, but when I choose the install (or recovery mode) it goes to a black screen with a blinking cursor. Alt-F1,2,etc does not bring up a terminal. What could be the error?
[23:56] <Foxhoundz> once I restart the PC it starts working normally again
[23:56] <OerHeks> i am not sure how this can be solved, as you have no desktop, no drivermenu ..