| elithrar | Looking at the Upstart cookbook (updated 2014-07-17) can I assume that user jobs aren't able to log to /var/log/upstart/* (i.e. I'd need to manage my own logging solution)? | 08:52 |
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| xnox | elithrar: system jobs log to /var/log/upstart/*, user-session jobs log to $XDG_CACHE_HOME/upstart/ -> which typically is $HOME/.cache/upstart/ | 08:56 |
| xnox | elithrar: so default behaviour is the same for both: stdout & stderr is collected & rotated into logs somewhere. | 08:56 |
| elithrar | xnox: Alright, thanks. Having issues when using `set uid $USER` and `set gid $USER` where the job fails to start. No useful logging information from Upstart. | 08:59 |
| xnox | elithrar: oh, well neither of those stanzas are correct -> job not recognised -> job not run =) | 09:01 |
| xnox | elithrar: "setuid" and "setgid" are correct stanzas -> note no space. | 09:02 |
| elithrar | Whoops, I typo'ed them in IRC. Not in the config. | 09:02 |
| xnox | elithrar: and that's a system level job, so log would be in /var/log/upstart/* | 09:02 |
| xnox | elithrar: can you run $ init-checkconf /etc/init/that-job.conf ? | 09:02 |
| elithrar | "failed to ask Upstart" (although it still writes it to /tmp/user/$UID/init-checkconf... | 09:06 |
| elithrar | I asked all of this as the Upstart docs indicate "User jobs cannot currently take advantage of job logging. If a user job does specify console log, it is considered to have specified console none. Logging of user jobs is planned for the next release of Upstart." | 09:07 |
| xnox | elithrar: ..... user jobs != user-session jobs != system job with setuid specified | 09:11 |
| elithrar | Upstart 1.5 here, so only user jobs. | 09:12 |
| xnox | elithrar: we used to have (now deprecated) user jobs, where jobs are read from $HOME/.init/ and are run under the user jobs. | 09:12 |
| elithrar | (running 12.04 - I should have clarified. Only just noticed that 1.7 brought session jobs) | 09:12 |
| xnox | elithrar: well, read $ man 5 init, I don't think 1.5 had "console log" at all) | 09:12 |
| * xnox checks. | 09:13 | |
| elithrar | It does, but only for system jobs - so you're right / my first comment was on the mark | 09:13 |
| elithrar | logged "Only applies to system jobs: if specified by user jobs, the job will be considered to have specified the value none." | 09:13 |
| elithrar | *log | 09:13 |
| xnox | elithrar: yeap =( | 09:13 |
| elithrar | Welp, I'm rebuilding this box as a 14.04 LTS machine so I'll use session jobs and test in Vagrant. Thanks for helping diagnose though—more incentive to upgrade. | 09:14 |
| xnox | elithrar: you should be able to use something like "log-output" or something like that. Or otherwise redirect stdout/stderr to a file you can write to as that user. | 09:15 |
| xnox | elithrar: ha, log-output is ubiquity internal -> so no, can't use it. | 09:16 |
| elithrar | Yeah, I was trying to avoid that since I then need to write a logrotate config. Which isn't a challenge, but it's just less incentive to migrate from supervisord. I prefer to use the "included tools" but older versions of Upstart are a bit limiting | 09:16 |
| six86 | Hello. I have a problem with upstart. I want to start a software when two can interfaces are available. But "start on (net-device-up IFACE=can0 and net-device-up IFACE=can1) | 13:39 |
| six86 | " does not work. Am I doing something wrong here?! | 13:39 |
| six86 | anyone? | 13:48 |
| === JanC_ is now known as JanC | ||
| sean_abbott | So as I understand it, just putting the conf file in /etc/init should let upstart know about the job | 15:49 |
| sean_abbott | So, then, I guess if it still claims to NOT know about my job, there's a problem with it. | 15:49 |
| sean_abbott | is that correct? | 15:49 |
| sean_abbott | here's what I dn't understand. Your debug guide says if you get unknown job you have a configuration issue. | 16:04 |
| sean_abbott | use init-checkconf | 16:04 |
| sean_abbott | but init-checkconf doesn't work on servers | 16:04 |
| sean_abbott | and ya'll don't respond at all. | 16:04 |
| sean_abbott | ok, was finally able to run init-checkconf from my desktop and that got me there | 16:07 |
| sean_abbott | \quit | 16:07 |
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