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[18:50] <knome> phillw, fwiw, you didn't mention it's about xubuntu, and even then, i'd have preferred #xubuntu-devel
[18:50] <phillw> knome: can you confirm if you see this as default ... http://meets.free.fr/images/lubuntu-trusty-daily-sources.png
[18:51] <knome> i don't use synaptic
[18:51] <phillw> is it not available in xubuntu?
[18:51] <knome> not by default
[18:51] <phillw> okies.. thanks
[18:51] <knome> but sure, it's available in the repositories
[18:52] <phillw> can you check to see if the 'proposed' is enabled by default ?
[18:53] <phillw> obviously, proposed should not be on by default.
[18:53] <knome> not right now, but it shouldn't
[18:54] <phillw> give me a ping when you have chance to check. Julien thinks it is a general setting and all users are getting proposed updates in 14.04 - which is not ideal :P
[18:55] <knome> xubuntu ISOs are available for everybody, including you and julien
[18:55] <knome> it's just as much work for me to check a *default* than for you or him
[18:59] <phillw> knome: except niether of us have xubuntu installed?
[19:00] <phillw> my last xubuntu was when asked to do some testing as a matter of urgency a couple of cycles ago....
[19:04] <knome> you can't check *defaults* on system-wide configuration on installed system anyway