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mappsyo05:28
foobarrymorning07:35
foobarryso dark and gloomy today07:35
foobarrymonsoon has just started07:36
foobarryParcel out for delivery Enfield service centre 19th Jul 201408:2007:41
foobarryoh wow. glad i didn't pay the exorbitant saturday delivery charge \o/07:41
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brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:40
gebbionehi09:20
gebbionedoes anacron keep a log somewhere?09:20
foobarrytried /var/log/cron ?09:21
gebbionegoing to check09:21
gebbioneno there isnt09:21
foobarry/var/log/cron.log09:22
foobarryoh, i'm thinking centos09:22
foobarry/var/log/syslog09:22
foobarryJul 19 09:24:25 albatros anacron[10897]: Anacron 2.3 started on 2014-07-1909:22
gebbionei have syslog , but it feels a bit generic , should i find there anything the scripts is /etc/cron/daily echo?09:26
gebbionemhhh it doesnt look like it has run the scripts i placed there yesterday09:29
gebbioneand as they should run sometime at night(and the pc was off) i would expect it to run them now that i have switched it on again09:30
ht20009hi can anyone help me09:34
gebbioneso anacron is then a big joke09:39
gebbionehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/anacron/+bug/38231509:39
lubotu3Launchpad bug 36816 in anacron (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #382315 Anacron doesn't work with suspend/hibernation" [High,Fix released]09:39
ht20009hi i was just wondering if anyone could help me obtain some older official cononical ubuntu cds09:40
gebbioneCDs?09:41
ht20009yes the official cds09:41
gebbioneis it for collection purposes? cant you find the ISO?09:41
ht20009yes sorry, i collect the cds :-)09:42
gebbionetried ebay?09:43
ht20009yes they have many but there is just a few i cant find anywhere, such as ubuntu 9.04 desktop09:43
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ht20009thank you very much for helping :-)09:55
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foobarryi had a load, i threw them away11:33
foobarrya microserver appears...11:36
foobarrymost chilled delivery guy ever11:36
penguin42perhaps he does icecreams as well?11:39
foobarrymaybe pina coladas11:42
foobarryi get a choice between having a snooze or playing with the new nas11:42
foobarrywood cutter simulator on bbc click lol11:45
foobarrychatting with kids who play farming sims11:46
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bigcalmGood morning peeps :)13:29
daftykinso/13:35
gebbionestill stuck trying to understand how to get a good log out of anacron14:30
gebbionecreating my own within the scripts sounds a really bad way of doing things14:30
daftykinsoh look, a tumbleweed15:08
daftykinshttps://www.dropbox.com/s/9tzbpd5uh0wrdw6/IMG_20140719_160407.jpg15:08
daftykinsom nom nom15:08
penguin42oooh15:09
mappsafternoon15:29
mapps;]15:29
mappsuploading 1.7mb/s downloading at 4:D15:29
mappsgood riddance rubbish old 6mbit adsl15:29
penguin42good riddance now you're at 4?15:30
mappsmb and mbit15:30
mapps6mbit before..downloading at 6Mb/s15:30
mapps4MB/s15:30
penguin42ah yes, and your upload speed?15:30
mapps19mbit max so around 2mb/s?15:31
mappssays 1.9Mb/s up atm15:31
penguin42you mean 2MByte/s  up? What's that on?15:32
mappsyea15:32
mappsfttc15:32
mapps:D15:32
mappspaying for 90/1915:32
penguin42oh that's a very pleasent upstream, not found anyone with that before15:32
daftykinserr, 4MB/sec down is 40Mb odd ;)15:32
daftykinsthat's what i have and get ^15:33
* penguin42 is on 50Mbps down, 3Mbps up on the lowest virgin cable package15:33
mappswhats the up?15:33
mappswhats the highest virgin package now? i remember having 512k ntl;p15:33
mappsthey upgrade people all the time on virgin too iirc15:33
daftykinsi have 5Mb up, so i tend to see ~580KB/sec tops15:33
* mapps wins15:34
mapps;[15:34
daftykinsi dunno, you're paying for 90 and seeing 40 down XD15:36
daftykinsalso correct notation please, Mb and MB :P15:36
mappsyes15:36
mappsatm15:36
mappsbut ive had 6-7 down15:36
penguin42finding the upstream speed for packages on virgin is very difficult15:36
mappsalso mr know it all15:36
mappssky said they start it off slower and gradually increase it15:36
mappsi guess to check my line can cope with te speed the tests say15:37
mapps:D15:37
penguin42mapps: I reckon the top package is 152Mbps down, 12Mbps up15:37
daftykinsthat's so iffy, the learning period used to be 2hrs but it starts at max then slowly drops if there are errors, not the other way around XD15:38
daftykins2hrs? 24-48hrs15:38
mappswell15:38
mappsim telling u what they said!!!15:38
mapps:@15:38
daftykinsdirty liars15:39
daftykins:D15:39
mapps:D15:39
mappsstill beats my lame 6mbit15:40
mappswhen i downloaded on my 6mbit i couldnt do ANYTHING else basically..itd kill my interet heh15:41
daftykinsyeah, us rock dwellers have had 16 for years on the basic service15:41
mappswhen did u get 4015:41
daftykinswhen i moved into this place, it'd been out since September of last i think15:42
mapps;]15:43
daftykinsnah hang on... September 201215:43
mappsgot 100gig of csi eps queued15:45
mapps:D15:45
foobarryi'm  on 10Gb/s16:37
foobarryactually i'd have to hop servers.  only 1Gb/s on this server16:38
foobarrylast hop is my ADSL though...sometimes easier to do a train journey with a usb stick..16:39
mapps:D16:40
* penguin42 hands foobarry a pigeon16:45
daftykinsall this "my connections fiber" is such a crock though16:47
* foobarry turns the oven to 18016:48
mappslol16:48
mappsi was just saying daftykins i was stuck on rubbish for years16:49
mappsand are you gonna say how its actually copper to the home?:P16:49
mapps;]16:49
daftykinsmapps: virgin media ads "our fiber network"16:49
daftykinsoh wait, we've got coax in all the roads16:49
mappsheh16:49
mappsbtfibre isnt fibre to the house as such16:49
mappsfibre to box and copper last leg to our house..no?16:50
foobarryfttc = fibre to the cabinet innit?16:50
mappsbut people probaby think they got fibre in their home16:50
mappsyea foobarry16:50
foobarrythe green cabinet16:50
mappsyep16:50
mappsbut its sold as FIBRE FIBRE FIBRE16:50
mapps;D16:50
foobarrythen its a wet string16:50
mappsyea16:50
foobarryalthough virgin oversold their old cable previously, so fttc is better for virgin customers16:50
mappsreally?16:51
foobarrybecause they were saturated from cabinet to exchange16:51
mappsold cable?i didnt know theyd layedany new cable in years?16:51
foobarryexactly16:51
foobarrythey were massively overselling their networks16:51
daftykinsare you talking virgin coax network, or their telephone DSL service?16:51
mappsah yea16:51
mappsvirgin coax16:51
foobarryyep coax16:52
foobarrythey had these routers at the green cabinet that were chock full of customers connections, but in a high density area where the whole road was on virgin,...16:52
daftykinsah ok16:52
daftykinsmmm it did seems to be held together with tape too16:53
foobarrythe guy would come and switch me between routers, saying the other one was 20x overcapacity16:53
daftykins*seem16:53
penguin42foobarry: Here I get the listed bandwidth on virgin16:53
daftykinshaha, nice16:53
foobarrybut it woud still wouldn't work16:53
daftykinsyeah in Portsmouth i always got th advertised speeds16:53
foobarrythe engineer told me not to bother and get another service16:53
daftykinsdamn it keyboard16:54
foobarryhe also said i wouldn't be able to get digital telly16:54
foobarryi still had analogue cable at the time16:54
penguin42actually, I get over the listed bandwidth16:54
foobarryservice varies16:54
foobarryand density16:54
foobarrybut when u see a virgin van in your street...16:54
penguin42our vans seem to be named after film characters; there's a virgin van called van Helsing around here16:55
foobarryits often the whole street with issues16:55
foobarry(in london)16:55
foobarrythey were just shuffling cards16:55
penguin42yeh well it's a shared coax16:55
foobarryyeah16:55
foobarryi used to know the network router thing they used16:55
daftykinsyou always see the boxes outside properties with their covers missing too16:55
mappsany of u setup strongswan before? still struggling16:55
daftykinscoax exposed to the elements16:55
mappshaha yea16:56
penguin42but in the end it's no different to infinity, that's fibre to the cab, so is Virgin, only difference is what comes off it16:56
foobarrythey are druggie deaddrops16:56
daftykinsfoobarry: ah, cunning16:56
mappslol foobarry16:56
penguin42mapps: oh god I've not done ipsec for many years16:56
foobarryand vomit filled16:56
foobarrymapps: openswan i used to know16:56
mappshttp://tiebing.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/windows-7-ikev2-error-13806.html?m=116:56
foobarrybut its been a wile16:56
mappsive read so much tutorials and docs16:56
foobarry..i see windows..16:56
mappsincluding strongswan wiki16:56
mappsyea windows client16:56
foobarryheh16:56
foobarrygood luck16:57
mappsjust having problems16:57
foobarrydisable all the firewalls16:57
mappsi only want to switch due to the openvpn issue=[16:57
foobarryhaven't been able to get my microserver out the box yet16:57
foobarrykids eh16:57
mappswhat server16:57
mappswhat u get it for16:57
foobarryhp n54l16:57
foobarrystoring my stuffs16:58
mapps:D16:58
mappshow much storage16:58
foobarrymusic, video rips, photos, documents16:58
mappsrunning ubuntu/xubuntu or..?16:58
foobarry3TB in RAID1 but it has 4 slots16:58
foobarryubuntu server16:58
mappscool16:58
foobarry14.0416:58
daftykinsaww a wee baby :D16:58
foobarryto encrypt or not encrypt:?16:58
mappsyes16:58
foobarrythe 3TB16:58
daftykinsare your cat/dog pics that important?16:58
mappsthatll be my next job AFTER i fix strongswan16:58
mapps;p16:58
mappsso next year16:59
mappsheh16:59
foobarrythe whole fs is not necessary to encrypt16:59
daftykinsall the users i see come in #ubuntu with broken encryption setups... oh my my.16:59
foobarrymaybe sensitive stuff on a encrypted bit16:59
daftykinspasswords.txt?16:59
penguin42foobarry: Yes it is16:59
penguin42actually, for my home stuff I just encrypt one parttion, for work I do the lot17:00
foobarrytruecrypt?luks?17:01
mappswhat do people use to store passwords..and no not your brain;p im sure someone mentioned something for storing passwords and ids etc17:01
foobarrykeeppassx17:01
foobarrywith a password and key17:01
daftykinspencil and paper17:02
foobarryvim -x17:02
foobarrykeeppassx is pretty user friendly17:03
foobarryand offline17:03
foobarrydaftykins: the potential for losing the whole data scares me17:03
foobarryif encrypted17:04
foobarrytruecrpyt has been soured a bit too17:04
daftykinsusers have done this and come into #ubuntu asking for magical workarounds17:04
daftykinsyeah, truecrypt seems pretty dead - although i think i heard some claim there are 'good versions' ?17:04
foobarry7.1a17:04
penguin42just keeps passwords in text files inside a luks encrypted partition17:05
foobarrybut there is encfs and luks17:05
foobarrythink i will encfs private stuff since i dont need to access it unless using laptop17:19
mappswhat cpu u got in tht hp foobarry17:59
* daftykins gives mapps more keys to type17:59
mapps:D18:01
mappsso tired18:19
mapps:<18:19
daftykinsthen have a nap, then fire ze missiles18:21
mapps;]18:28
daftykinsi ordered that £2.99 new power button cable for my friends iPhone 418:29
daftykinsthat's going to be some serious surgery.18:29
mappsurgh taking apart iphones sucks18:29
mappsu got the sucker pad and screwdriver etc18:29
daftykinsindeed, well i've got the 54-bit screwdriver kit from ifixit18:29
daftykinsbought it for myself for general computer work etc.18:30
daftykinsit has pretty much all you need18:30
daftykinsit seems all these cheap add-ons from ebay come with all manner of cheap tools too though18:30
mappsyea18:31
mappstrue18:31
daftykinsi suspect they'd be the types that have the driver-shaft infinitely spin in a plastic handle though if you used them for any length of time :D18:32
daftykinsi should really order one of the spare screw sets at the same time, only about £518:32
mappsah yea18:33
daftykinsbut yeah it's working fine besides the power button18:33
mappscheap rubbish normally18:33
daftykinsmy mate has it modded so repeated presses of the home button power it off18:33
mappsah18:33
daftykinsi don't want to wipe it and install a clean iOS until power's fixed18:33
daftykinselse it can't be turned off :D18:33
DJonesHmmh, earthquake in Jersey https://twitter.com/Jersey_Met/status/49058439122859622419:54
daftykinsall the channel islands, sir :)19:56
daftykinsthough the epicentre was 5 miles southwest of them, yep19:56
daftykinsi myself was out buying lunch at the time - didn't feel a thing19:57
maps|wrkhello19:57
DJonesHeh, don't normally feel them in the uk19:57
maps|wrk:D19:57
daftykinsdon't normally get any here either XD20:00
daftykins(psst, totally not bias - but Guernsey is better than Jersey)20:06
Azelphurphew, 12 hours of volunteer work today \o/20:38
Azelphurlong day was long20:38
maps|wrkwhat were you doing?20:38
Azelphurhttp://epik.org.uk/ in the morning, National Autistic Society in the evening20:38
maps|wrkcool20:39
Azelphurindeed, good stuff :)20:39
maps|wrknever tried minecraft heard it mentioned plenty20:39
Azelphurmaps|wrk: it's mostly teaching kids to program by getting them involved in modding games (minecraft)20:40
Azelphurand plus I'm around to sorta play spot the prodigy and give them an assist :)20:40
maps|wrk;]20:40
Azelphurspotted a 13 year old girl who is learning Python, already did all of the minecraft coursework, and is learning HTML/CSS/website building, put her on my hangouts so she can ping me whenever she gets stuck20:41
Azelphur(well, 13 is a guess, somewhere around that)20:41
maps|wrkcool..never used hangouts - was that to do with googles experts thing or am i getting mixed up20:44
Azelphurmaps|wrk: nah, just a chat network.20:48
dogmatic69anyone noticed a bug with right click for the 'action menu' results in something being clicked on the submenu instantly21:37
dogmatic69before (dont know how far back) right click could not act on the menus, only left click21:37
dogmatic69ah, just found bug 32025921:41
lubotu3bug 320259 in GTK+ "GDM Context menu needs an option to display on button release" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32025921:41
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