[05:28] <mapps> yo
[07:35] <foobarry> morning
[07:35] <foobarry> so dark and gloomy today
[07:36] <foobarry> monsoon has just started
[07:41] <foobarry> Parcel out for delivery Enfield service centre 19th Jul 201408:20
[07:41] <foobarry> oh wow. glad i didn't pay the exorbitant saturday delivery charge \o/
[08:40] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:20] <gebbione> hi
[09:20] <gebbione> does anacron keep a log somewhere?
[09:21] <foobarry> tried /var/log/cron ?
[09:21] <gebbione> going to check
[09:21] <gebbione> no there isnt
[09:22] <foobarry> /var/log/cron.log
[09:22] <foobarry> oh, i'm thinking centos
[09:22] <foobarry> /var/log/syslog
[09:22] <foobarry> Jul 19 09:24:25 albatros anacron[10897]: Anacron 2.3 started on 2014-07-19
[09:26] <gebbione> i have syslog , but it feels a bit generic , should i find there anything the scripts is /etc/cron/daily echo?
[09:29] <gebbione> mhhh it doesnt look like it has run the scripts i placed there yesterday
[09:30] <gebbione> and as they should run sometime at night(and the pc was off) i would expect it to run them now that i have switched it on again
[09:34] <ht20009> hi can anyone help me
[09:39] <gebbione> so anacron is then a big joke
[09:39] <gebbione> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/anacron/+bug/382315
[09:40] <ht20009> hi i was just wondering if anyone could help me obtain some older official cononical ubuntu cds
[09:41] <gebbione> CDs?
[09:41] <ht20009> yes the official cds
[09:41] <gebbione> is it for collection purposes? cant you find the ISO?
[09:42] <ht20009> yes sorry, i collect the cds :-)
[09:43] <gebbione> tried ebay?
[09:43] <ht20009> yes they have many but there is just a few i cant find anywhere, such as ubuntu 9.04 desktop
[09:55] <ht20009> thank you very much for helping :-)
[11:33] <foobarry> i had a load, i threw them away
[11:36] <foobarry> a microserver appears...
[11:36] <foobarry> most chilled delivery guy ever
[11:39] <penguin42> perhaps he does icecreams as well?
[11:42] <foobarry> maybe pina coladas
[11:42] <foobarry> i get a choice between having a snooze or playing with the new nas
[11:45] <foobarry> wood cutter simulator on bbc click lol
[11:46] <foobarry> chatting with kids who play farming sims
[13:29] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[13:35] <daftykins> o/
[14:30] <gebbione> still stuck trying to understand how to get a good log out of anacron
[14:30] <gebbione> creating my own within the scripts sounds a really bad way of doing things
[15:08] <daftykins> oh look, a tumbleweed
[15:08] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/9tzbpd5uh0wrdw6/IMG_20140719_160407.jpg
[15:08] <daftykins> om nom nom
[15:09] <penguin42> oooh
[15:29] <mapps> afternoon
[15:29] <mapps> ;]
[15:29] <mapps> uploading 1.7mb/s downloading at 4:D
[15:29] <mapps> good riddance rubbish old 6mbit adsl
[15:30] <penguin42> good riddance now you're at 4?
[15:30] <mapps> mb and mbit
[15:30] <mapps> 6mbit before..downloading at 6Mb/s
[15:30] <mapps> 4MB/s
[15:30] <penguin42> ah yes, and your upload speed?
[15:31] <mapps> 19mbit max so around 2mb/s?
[15:31] <mapps> says 1.9Mb/s up atm
[15:32] <penguin42> you mean 2MByte/s  up? What's that on?
[15:32] <mapps> yea
[15:32] <mapps> fttc
[15:32] <mapps> :D
[15:32] <mapps> paying for 90/19
[15:32] <penguin42> oh that's a very pleasent upstream, not found anyone with that before
[15:32] <daftykins> err, 4MB/sec down is 40Mb odd ;)
[15:33] <daftykins> that's what i have and get ^
[15:33]  * penguin42 is on 50Mbps down, 3Mbps up on the lowest virgin cable package
[15:33] <mapps> whats the up?
[15:33] <mapps> whats the highest virgin package now? i remember having 512k ntl;p
[15:33] <mapps> they upgrade people all the time on virgin too iirc
[15:33] <daftykins> i have 5Mb up, so i tend to see ~580KB/sec tops
[15:34]  * mapps wins
[15:34] <mapps> ;[
[15:36] <daftykins> i dunno, you're paying for 90 and seeing 40 down XD
[15:36] <daftykins> also correct notation please, Mb and MB :P
[15:36] <mapps> yes
[15:36] <mapps> atm
[15:36] <mapps> but ive had 6-7 down
[15:36] <penguin42> finding the upstream speed for packages on virgin is very difficult
[15:36] <mapps> also mr know it all
[15:36] <mapps> sky said they start it off slower and gradually increase it
[15:37] <mapps> i guess to check my line can cope with te speed the tests say
[15:37] <mapps> :D
[15:37] <penguin42> mapps: I reckon the top package is 152Mbps down, 12Mbps up
[15:38] <daftykins> that's so iffy, the learning period used to be 2hrs but it starts at max then slowly drops if there are errors, not the other way around XD
[15:38] <daftykins> 2hrs? 24-48hrs
[15:38] <mapps> well
[15:38] <mapps> im telling u what they said!!!
[15:38] <mapps> :@
[15:39] <daftykins> dirty liars
[15:39] <daftykins> :D
[15:39] <mapps> :D
[15:40] <mapps> still beats my lame 6mbit
[15:41] <mapps> when i downloaded on my 6mbit i couldnt do ANYTHING else basically..itd kill my interet heh
[15:41] <daftykins> yeah, us rock dwellers have had 16 for years on the basic service
[15:41] <mapps> when did u get 40
[15:42] <daftykins> when i moved into this place, it'd been out since September of last i think
[15:43] <mapps> ;]
[15:43] <daftykins> nah hang on... September 2012
[15:45] <mapps> got 100gig of csi eps queued
[15:45] <mapps> :D
[16:37] <foobarry> i'm  on 10Gb/s
[16:38] <foobarry> actually i'd have to hop servers.  only 1Gb/s on this server
[16:39] <foobarry> last hop is my ADSL though...sometimes easier to do a train journey with a usb stick..
[16:40] <mapps> :D
[16:45]  * penguin42 hands foobarry a pigeon
[16:47] <daftykins> all this "my connections fiber" is such a crock though
[16:48]  * foobarry  turns the oven to 180
[16:48] <mapps> lol
[16:49] <mapps> i was just saying daftykins i was stuck on rubbish for years
[16:49] <mapps> and are you gonna say how its actually copper to the home?:P
[16:49] <mapps> ;]
[16:49] <daftykins> mapps: virgin media ads "our fiber network"
[16:49] <daftykins> oh wait, we've got coax in all the roads
[16:49] <mapps> heh
[16:49] <mapps> btfibre isnt fibre to the house as such
[16:50] <mapps> fibre to box and copper last leg to our house..no?
[16:50] <foobarry> fttc = fibre to the cabinet innit?
[16:50] <mapps> but people probaby think they got fibre in their home
[16:50] <mapps> yea foobarry
[16:50] <foobarry> the green cabinet
[16:50] <mapps> yep
[16:50] <mapps> but its sold as FIBRE FIBRE FIBRE
[16:50] <mapps> ;D
[16:50] <foobarry> then its a wet string
[16:50] <mapps> yea
[16:50] <foobarry> although virgin oversold their old cable previously, so fttc is better for virgin customers
[16:51] <mapps> really?
[16:51] <foobarry> because they were saturated from cabinet to exchange
[16:51] <mapps> old cable?i didnt know theyd layedany new cable in years?
[16:51] <foobarry> exactly
[16:51] <foobarry> they were massively overselling their networks
[16:51] <daftykins> are you talking virgin coax network, or their telephone DSL service?
[16:51] <mapps> ah yea
[16:51] <mapps> virgin coax
[16:52] <foobarry> yep coax
[16:52] <foobarry> they had these routers at the green cabinet that were chock full of customers connections, but in a high density area where the whole road was on virgin,...
[16:52] <daftykins> ah ok
[16:53] <daftykins> mmm it did seems to be held together with tape too
[16:53] <foobarry> the guy would come and switch me between routers, saying the other one was 20x overcapacity
[16:53] <daftykins> *seem
[16:53] <penguin42> foobarry: Here I get the listed bandwidth on virgin
[16:53] <daftykins> haha, nice
[16:53] <foobarry> but it woud still wouldn't work
[16:53] <daftykins> yeah in Portsmouth i always got th advertised speeds
[16:53] <foobarry> the engineer told me not to bother and get another service
[16:54] <daftykins> damn it keyboard
[16:54] <foobarry> he also said i wouldn't be able to get digital telly
[16:54] <foobarry> i still had analogue cable at the time
[16:54] <penguin42> actually, I get over the listed bandwidth
[16:54] <foobarry> service varies
[16:54] <foobarry> and density
[16:54] <foobarry> but when u see a virgin van in your street...
[16:55] <penguin42> our vans seem to be named after film characters; there's a virgin van called van Helsing around here
[16:55] <foobarry> its often the whole street with issues
[16:55] <foobarry> (in london)
[16:55] <foobarry> they were just shuffling cards
[16:55] <penguin42> yeh well it's a shared coax
[16:55] <foobarry> yeah
[16:55] <foobarry> i used to know the network router thing they used
[16:55] <daftykins> you always see the boxes outside properties with their covers missing too
[16:55] <mapps> any of u setup strongswan before? still struggling
[16:55] <daftykins> coax exposed to the elements
[16:56] <mapps> haha yea
[16:56] <penguin42> but in the end it's no different to infinity, that's fibre to the cab, so is Virgin, only difference is what comes off it
[16:56] <foobarry> they are druggie deaddrops
[16:56] <daftykins> foobarry: ah, cunning
[16:56] <mapps> lol foobarry
[16:56] <penguin42> mapps: oh god I've not done ipsec for many years
[16:56] <foobarry> and vomit filled
[16:56] <foobarry> mapps: openswan i used to know
[16:56] <mapps> http://tiebing.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/windows-7-ikev2-error-13806.html?m=1
[16:56] <foobarry> but its been a wile
[16:56] <mapps> ive read so much tutorials and docs
[16:56] <foobarry> ..i see windows..
[16:56] <mapps> including strongswan wiki
[16:56] <mapps> yea windows client
[16:56] <foobarry> heh
[16:57] <foobarry> good luck
[16:57] <mapps> just having problems
[16:57] <foobarry> disable all the firewalls
[16:57] <mapps> i only want to switch due to the openvpn issue=[
[16:57] <foobarry> haven't been able to get my microserver out the box yet
[16:57] <foobarry> kids eh
[16:57] <mapps> what server
[16:57] <mapps> what u get it for
[16:57] <foobarry> hp n54l
[16:58] <foobarry> storing my stuffs
[16:58] <mapps> :D
[16:58] <mapps> how much storage
[16:58] <foobarry> music, video rips, photos, documents
[16:58] <mapps> running ubuntu/xubuntu or..?
[16:58] <foobarry> 3TB in RAID1 but it has 4 slots
[16:58] <foobarry> ubuntu server
[16:58] <mapps> cool
[16:58] <foobarry> 14.04
[16:58] <daftykins> aww a wee baby :D
[16:58] <foobarry> to encrypt or not encrypt:?
[16:58] <mapps> yes
[16:58] <foobarry> the 3TB
[16:58] <daftykins> are your cat/dog pics that important?
[16:58] <mapps> thatll be my next job AFTER i fix strongswan
[16:58] <mapps> ;p
[16:59] <mapps> so next year
[16:59] <mapps> heh
[16:59] <foobarry> the whole fs is not necessary to encrypt
[16:59] <daftykins> all the users i see come in #ubuntu with broken encryption setups... oh my my.
[16:59] <foobarry> maybe sensitive stuff on a encrypted bit
[16:59] <daftykins> passwords.txt?
[16:59] <penguin42> foobarry: Yes it is
[17:00] <penguin42> actually, for my home stuff I just encrypt one parttion, for work I do the lot
[17:01] <foobarry> truecrypt?luks?
[17:01] <mapps> what do people use to store passwords..and no not your brain;p im sure someone mentioned something for storing passwords and ids etc
[17:01] <foobarry> keeppassx
[17:01] <foobarry> with a password and key
[17:02] <daftykins> pencil and paper
[17:02] <foobarry> vim -x
[17:03] <foobarry> keeppassx is pretty user friendly
[17:03] <foobarry> and offline
[17:03] <foobarry> daftykins: the potential for losing the whole data scares me
[17:04] <foobarry> if encrypted
[17:04] <foobarry> truecrpyt has been soured a bit too
[17:04] <daftykins> users have done this and come into #ubuntu asking for magical workarounds
[17:04] <daftykins> yeah, truecrypt seems pretty dead - although i think i heard some claim there are 'good versions' ?
[17:04] <foobarry> 7.1a
[17:05] <penguin42> just keeps passwords in text files inside a luks encrypted partition
[17:05] <foobarry> but there is encfs and luks
[17:19] <foobarry> think i will encfs private stuff since i dont need to access it unless using laptop
[17:59] <mapps> what cpu u got in tht hp foobarry
[17:59]  * daftykins gives mapps more keys to type
[18:01] <mapps> :D
[18:19] <mapps> so tired
[18:19] <mapps> :<
[18:21] <daftykins> then have a nap, then fire ze missiles
[18:28] <mapps> ;]
[18:29] <daftykins> i ordered that £2.99 new power button cable for my friends iPhone 4
[18:29] <daftykins> that's going to be some serious surgery.
[18:29] <mapps> urgh taking apart iphones sucks
[18:29] <mapps> u got the sucker pad and screwdriver etc
[18:29] <daftykins> indeed, well i've got the 54-bit screwdriver kit from ifixit
[18:30] <daftykins> bought it for myself for general computer work etc.
[18:30] <daftykins> it has pretty much all you need
[18:30] <daftykins> it seems all these cheap add-ons from ebay come with all manner of cheap tools too though
[18:31] <mapps> yea
[18:31] <mapps> true
[18:32] <daftykins> i suspect they'd be the types that have the driver-shaft infinitely spin in a plastic handle though if you used them for any length of time :D
[18:32] <daftykins> i should really order one of the spare screw sets at the same time, only about £5
[18:33] <mapps> ah yea
[18:33] <daftykins> but yeah it's working fine besides the power button
[18:33] <mapps> cheap rubbish normally
[18:33] <daftykins> my mate has it modded so repeated presses of the home button power it off
[18:33] <mapps> ah
[18:33] <daftykins> i don't want to wipe it and install a clean iOS until power's fixed
[18:33] <daftykins> else it can't be turned off :D
[19:54] <DJones> Hmmh, earthquake in Jersey https://twitter.com/Jersey_Met/status/490584391228596224
[19:56] <daftykins> all the channel islands, sir :)
[19:56] <daftykins> though the epicentre was 5 miles southwest of them, yep
[19:57] <daftykins> i myself was out buying lunch at the time - didn't feel a thing
[19:57] <maps|wrk> hello
[19:57] <DJones> Heh, don't normally feel them in the uk
[19:57] <maps|wrk> :D
[20:00] <daftykins> don't normally get any here either XD
[20:06] <daftykins> (psst, totally not bias - but Guernsey is better than Jersey)
[20:38] <Azelphur> phew, 12 hours of volunteer work today \o/
[20:38] <Azelphur> long day was long
[20:38] <maps|wrk> what were you doing?
[20:38] <Azelphur> http://epik.org.uk/ in the morning, National Autistic Society in the evening
[20:39] <maps|wrk> cool
[20:39] <Azelphur> indeed, good stuff :)
[20:39] <maps|wrk> never tried minecraft heard it mentioned plenty
[20:40] <Azelphur> maps|wrk: it's mostly teaching kids to program by getting them involved in modding games (minecraft)
[20:40] <Azelphur> and plus I'm around to sorta play spot the prodigy and give them an assist :)
[20:40] <maps|wrk> ;]
[20:41] <Azelphur> spotted a 13 year old girl who is learning Python, already did all of the minecraft coursework, and is learning HTML/CSS/website building, put her on my hangouts so she can ping me whenever she gets stuck
[20:41] <Azelphur> (well, 13 is a guess, somewhere around that)
[20:44] <maps|wrk> cool..never used hangouts - was that to do with googles experts thing or am i getting mixed up
[20:48] <Azelphur> maps|wrk: nah, just a chat network.
[21:37] <dogmatic69> anyone noticed a bug with right click for the 'action menu' results in something being clicked on the submenu instantly
[21:37] <dogmatic69> before (dont know how far back) right click could not act on the menus, only left click
[21:41] <dogmatic69> ah, just found bug 320259