[05:28] yo [07:35] morning [07:35] so dark and gloomy today [07:36] monsoon has just started [07:41] Parcel out for delivery Enfield service centre 19th Jul 201408:20 [07:41] oh wow. glad i didn't pay the exorbitant saturday delivery charge \o/ === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [08:40] morning boys and girls. [09:20] hi [09:20] does anacron keep a log somewhere? [09:21] tried /var/log/cron ? [09:21] going to check [09:21] no there isnt [09:22] /var/log/cron.log [09:22] oh, i'm thinking centos [09:22] /var/log/syslog [09:22] Jul 19 09:24:25 albatros anacron[10897]: Anacron 2.3 started on 2014-07-19 [09:26] i have syslog , but it feels a bit generic , should i find there anything the scripts is /etc/cron/daily echo? [09:29] mhhh it doesnt look like it has run the scripts i placed there yesterday [09:30] and as they should run sometime at night(and the pc was off) i would expect it to run them now that i have switched it on again [09:34] hi can anyone help me [09:39] so anacron is then a big joke [09:39] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/anacron/+bug/382315 [09:39] Launchpad bug 36816 in anacron (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #382315 Anacron doesn't work with suspend/hibernation" [High,Fix released] [09:40] hi i was just wondering if anyone could help me obtain some older official cononical ubuntu cds [09:41] CDs? [09:41] yes the official cds [09:41] is it for collection purposes? cant you find the ISO? [09:42] yes sorry, i collect the cds :-) [09:43] tried ebay? [09:43] yes they have many but there is just a few i cant find anywhere, such as ubuntu 9.04 desktop === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [09:55] thank you very much for helping :-) === webpigeon_ is now known as webpigeon === mgdm_t is now known as mgdm [11:33] i had a load, i threw them away [11:36] a microserver appears... [11:36] most chilled delivery guy ever [11:39] perhaps he does icecreams as well? [11:42] maybe pina coladas [11:42] i get a choice between having a snooze or playing with the new nas [11:45] wood cutter simulator on bbc click lol [11:46] chatting with kids who play farming sims === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [13:29] Good morning peeps :) [13:35] o/ [14:30] still stuck trying to understand how to get a good log out of anacron [14:30] creating my own within the scripts sounds a really bad way of doing things [15:08] oh look, a tumbleweed [15:08] https://www.dropbox.com/s/9tzbpd5uh0wrdw6/IMG_20140719_160407.jpg [15:08] om nom nom [15:09] oooh [15:29] afternoon [15:29] ;] [15:29] uploading 1.7mb/s downloading at 4:D [15:29] good riddance rubbish old 6mbit adsl [15:30] good riddance now you're at 4? [15:30] mb and mbit [15:30] 6mbit before..downloading at 6Mb/s [15:30] 4MB/s [15:30] ah yes, and your upload speed? [15:31] 19mbit max so around 2mb/s? [15:31] says 1.9Mb/s up atm [15:32] you mean 2MByte/s up? What's that on? [15:32] yea [15:32] fttc [15:32] :D [15:32] paying for 90/19 [15:32] oh that's a very pleasent upstream, not found anyone with that before [15:32] err, 4MB/sec down is 40Mb odd ;) [15:33] that's what i have and get ^ [15:33] * penguin42 is on 50Mbps down, 3Mbps up on the lowest virgin cable package [15:33] whats the up? [15:33] whats the highest virgin package now? i remember having 512k ntl;p [15:33] they upgrade people all the time on virgin too iirc [15:33] i have 5Mb up, so i tend to see ~580KB/sec tops [15:34] * mapps wins [15:34] ;[ [15:36] i dunno, you're paying for 90 and seeing 40 down XD [15:36] also correct notation please, Mb and MB :P [15:36] yes [15:36] atm [15:36] but ive had 6-7 down [15:36] finding the upstream speed for packages on virgin is very difficult [15:36] also mr know it all [15:36] sky said they start it off slower and gradually increase it [15:37] i guess to check my line can cope with te speed the tests say [15:37] :D [15:37] mapps: I reckon the top package is 152Mbps down, 12Mbps up [15:38] that's so iffy, the learning period used to be 2hrs but it starts at max then slowly drops if there are errors, not the other way around XD [15:38] 2hrs? 24-48hrs [15:38] well [15:38] im telling u what they said!!! [15:38] :@ [15:39] dirty liars [15:39] :D [15:39] :D [15:40] still beats my lame 6mbit [15:41] when i downloaded on my 6mbit i couldnt do ANYTHING else basically..itd kill my interet heh [15:41] yeah, us rock dwellers have had 16 for years on the basic service [15:41] when did u get 40 [15:42] when i moved into this place, it'd been out since September of last i think [15:43] ;] [15:43] nah hang on... September 2012 [15:45] got 100gig of csi eps queued [15:45] :D [16:37] i'm on 10Gb/s [16:38] actually i'd have to hop servers. only 1Gb/s on this server [16:39] last hop is my ADSL though...sometimes easier to do a train journey with a usb stick.. [16:40] :D [16:45] * penguin42 hands foobarry a pigeon [16:47] all this "my connections fiber" is such a crock though [16:48] * foobarry turns the oven to 180 [16:48] lol [16:49] i was just saying daftykins i was stuck on rubbish for years [16:49] and are you gonna say how its actually copper to the home?:P [16:49] ;] [16:49] mapps: virgin media ads "our fiber network" [16:49] oh wait, we've got coax in all the roads [16:49] heh [16:49] btfibre isnt fibre to the house as such [16:50] fibre to box and copper last leg to our house..no? [16:50] fttc = fibre to the cabinet innit? [16:50] but people probaby think they got fibre in their home [16:50] yea foobarry [16:50] the green cabinet [16:50] yep [16:50] but its sold as FIBRE FIBRE FIBRE [16:50] ;D [16:50] then its a wet string [16:50] yea [16:50] although virgin oversold their old cable previously, so fttc is better for virgin customers [16:51] really? [16:51] because they were saturated from cabinet to exchange [16:51] old cable?i didnt know theyd layedany new cable in years? [16:51] exactly [16:51] they were massively overselling their networks [16:51] are you talking virgin coax network, or their telephone DSL service? [16:51] ah yea [16:51] virgin coax [16:52] yep coax [16:52] they had these routers at the green cabinet that were chock full of customers connections, but in a high density area where the whole road was on virgin,... [16:52] ah ok [16:53] mmm it did seems to be held together with tape too [16:53] the guy would come and switch me between routers, saying the other one was 20x overcapacity [16:53] *seem [16:53] foobarry: Here I get the listed bandwidth on virgin [16:53] haha, nice [16:53] but it woud still wouldn't work [16:53] yeah in Portsmouth i always got th advertised speeds [16:53] the engineer told me not to bother and get another service [16:54] damn it keyboard [16:54] he also said i wouldn't be able to get digital telly [16:54] i still had analogue cable at the time [16:54] actually, I get over the listed bandwidth [16:54] service varies [16:54] and density [16:54] but when u see a virgin van in your street... [16:55] our vans seem to be named after film characters; there's a virgin van called van Helsing around here [16:55] its often the whole street with issues [16:55] (in london) [16:55] they were just shuffling cards [16:55] yeh well it's a shared coax [16:55] yeah [16:55] i used to know the network router thing they used [16:55] you always see the boxes outside properties with their covers missing too [16:55] any of u setup strongswan before? still struggling [16:55] coax exposed to the elements [16:56] haha yea [16:56] but in the end it's no different to infinity, that's fibre to the cab, so is Virgin, only difference is what comes off it [16:56] they are druggie deaddrops [16:56] foobarry: ah, cunning [16:56] lol foobarry [16:56] mapps: oh god I've not done ipsec for many years [16:56] and vomit filled [16:56] mapps: openswan i used to know [16:56] http://tiebing.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/windows-7-ikev2-error-13806.html?m=1 [16:56] but its been a wile [16:56] ive read so much tutorials and docs [16:56] ..i see windows.. [16:56] including strongswan wiki [16:56] yea windows client [16:56] heh [16:57] good luck [16:57] just having problems [16:57] disable all the firewalls [16:57] i only want to switch due to the openvpn issue=[ [16:57] haven't been able to get my microserver out the box yet [16:57] kids eh [16:57] what server [16:57] what u get it for [16:57] hp n54l [16:58] storing my stuffs [16:58] :D [16:58] how much storage [16:58] music, video rips, photos, documents [16:58] running ubuntu/xubuntu or..? [16:58] 3TB in RAID1 but it has 4 slots [16:58] ubuntu server [16:58] cool [16:58] 14.04 [16:58] aww a wee baby :D [16:58] to encrypt or not encrypt:? [16:58] yes [16:58] the 3TB [16:58] are your cat/dog pics that important? [16:58] thatll be my next job AFTER i fix strongswan [16:58] ;p [16:59] so next year [16:59] heh [16:59] the whole fs is not necessary to encrypt [16:59] all the users i see come in #ubuntu with broken encryption setups... oh my my. [16:59] maybe sensitive stuff on a encrypted bit [16:59] passwords.txt? [16:59] foobarry: Yes it is [17:00] actually, for my home stuff I just encrypt one parttion, for work I do the lot [17:01] truecrypt?luks? [17:01] what do people use to store passwords..and no not your brain;p im sure someone mentioned something for storing passwords and ids etc [17:01] keeppassx [17:01] with a password and key [17:02] pencil and paper [17:02] vim -x [17:03] keeppassx is pretty user friendly [17:03] and offline [17:03] daftykins: the potential for losing the whole data scares me [17:04] if encrypted [17:04] truecrpyt has been soured a bit too [17:04] users have done this and come into #ubuntu asking for magical workarounds [17:04] yeah, truecrypt seems pretty dead - although i think i heard some claim there are 'good versions' ? [17:04] 7.1a [17:05] just keeps passwords in text files inside a luks encrypted partition [17:05] but there is encfs and luks [17:19] think i will encfs private stuff since i dont need to access it unless using laptop [17:59] what cpu u got in tht hp foobarry [17:59] * daftykins gives mapps more keys to type [18:01] :D [18:19] so tired [18:19] :< [18:21] then have a nap, then fire ze missiles [18:28] ;] [18:29] i ordered that £2.99 new power button cable for my friends iPhone 4 [18:29] that's going to be some serious surgery. [18:29] urgh taking apart iphones sucks [18:29] u got the sucker pad and screwdriver etc [18:29] indeed, well i've got the 54-bit screwdriver kit from ifixit [18:30] bought it for myself for general computer work etc. [18:30] it has pretty much all you need [18:30] it seems all these cheap add-ons from ebay come with all manner of cheap tools too though [18:31] yea [18:31] true [18:32] i suspect they'd be the types that have the driver-shaft infinitely spin in a plastic handle though if you used them for any length of time :D [18:32] i should really order one of the spare screw sets at the same time, only about £5 [18:33] ah yea [18:33] but yeah it's working fine besides the power button [18:33] cheap rubbish normally [18:33] my mate has it modded so repeated presses of the home button power it off [18:33] ah [18:33] i don't want to wipe it and install a clean iOS until power's fixed [18:33] else it can't be turned off :D [19:54] Hmmh, earthquake in Jersey https://twitter.com/Jersey_Met/status/490584391228596224 [19:56] all the channel islands, sir :) [19:56] though the epicentre was 5 miles southwest of them, yep [19:57] i myself was out buying lunch at the time - didn't feel a thing [19:57] hello [19:57] Heh, don't normally feel them in the uk [19:57] :D [20:00] don't normally get any here either XD [20:06] (psst, totally not bias - but Guernsey is better than Jersey) [20:38] phew, 12 hours of volunteer work today \o/ [20:38] long day was long [20:38] what were you doing? [20:38] http://epik.org.uk/ in the morning, National Autistic Society in the evening [20:39] cool [20:39] indeed, good stuff :) [20:39] never tried minecraft heard it mentioned plenty [20:40] maps|wrk: it's mostly teaching kids to program by getting them involved in modding games (minecraft) [20:40] and plus I'm around to sorta play spot the prodigy and give them an assist :) [20:40] ;] [20:41] spotted a 13 year old girl who is learning Python, already did all of the minecraft coursework, and is learning HTML/CSS/website building, put her on my hangouts so she can ping me whenever she gets stuck [20:41] (well, 13 is a guess, somewhere around that) [20:44] cool..never used hangouts - was that to do with googles experts thing or am i getting mixed up [20:48] maps|wrk: nah, just a chat network. [21:37] anyone noticed a bug with right click for the 'action menu' results in something being clicked on the submenu instantly [21:37] before (dont know how far back) right click could not act on the menus, only left click [21:41] ah, just found bug 320259 [21:41] bug 320259 in GTK+ "GDM Context menu needs an option to display on button release" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/320259 === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away