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FreederHello. I moved a hard drive to a new machine. GRUB menu comes up fine, but when I choose the install (or recovery mode) it goes to a black screen with a blinking cursor. Alt-F1,2,etc does not bring up a terminal. What could be the error?00:04
daftykinsFreeder: a hard disk with an existing install would not have an install option, what do you mean?00:05
Freeders/install/kernel00:07
Freedermenu option00:08
daftykinsFreeder: what hardware elements change between each? try this one out...00:09
daftykins!nomodeset | Freeder00:09
ubottuFreeder: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter00:09
FreederI edited the grub command to include nomodeset, noapic, apci=off00:09
Freeder(or whatever exact spelling is) ... no success00:10
daftykinsFreeder: can you explain the hardware between each?00:10
FreederTwo totally different machines.. what are you looking for in particular?00:11
daftykinsso CPU different, graphics different?00:11
daftykinshow bad are we talking :D00:11
Freederyes.00:12
Freederall the above.00:12
Freederassume everything has changed, because it has00:12
daftykinsstill both 64-bit capable processors though i assume :>00:12
daftykinsif it's a 64-bit install00:12
daftykinswhat version is the install, also?00:13
Freederactually, both 32bit00:13
Freeder14.0400:13
daftykinsFreeder: have you tested a live session from USB?00:13
Freederlive CD wont boot properly either... how can I tell it to skip the GUI?00:13
Freederheh ^^00:14
FreederI get command line for a moment or two, then the screen starts blinking00:14
Freederreplaced with a mouse, on/off/on/off00:14
Freeder(mouse cursor)00:14
Freederbanging alt-f2 flashes command line for a second, then back to blinking screen/mouse cursor00:15
daftykinsFreeder: that's interesting. what hardware? have you reduced the system to the minimal required to run and tried booting live then?00:15
Freederdual 2.8ghz xeons, I think00:15
daftykinssorry what *graphics hardware that should've been00:15
daftykinsserver you say00:15
Freederyes, its a 2U HP DLsomething or other00:16
FreederDL380?00:16
cagri_hello i need help, my unity starts crashing when using spread view..00:17
daftykinsFreeder: yeah there are many generations of the same model #00:18
FreederG4, I think00:18
daftykinswhat's the RAM?00:18
Freeder3gb00:18
daftykinsouch00:18
LoshkiFreeder: Do you have a 12.04 live cd you can try?00:18
Loshkidaftykins: ouch? Ram snob...00:18
FreederLoshki: perhaps... what would that change?00:19
daftykinsLoshki: welcome to 201400:19
boxmeindon't ask. say I installed wubi-ubuntu 14.04 on D:\, I can access C:\ on nautilus but not D:\, wat do00:19
OerHeksFreeder, why not try 64 bit?00:20
FreederOerHeks: because I dont have a 64 bit proceessor in the machine00:20
daftykinssorry, i don't touch anything WUBI with a bargepole.00:20
OerHeksboxmein, wubi is not supported with 14.0400:20
LoshkiFreeder: it would verify the hardware. And allow you to do a backup and scratch-install, which I think you may need to do, depending on how clever you are...00:20
FreederLoshki: why not 14.04 is what i meant00:20
Freederinteresting... I just popped the drive back into the old one (after stripping out the other drives for other reasons) and it said a UUID drive was missing... is it possible it is silently error'ing while GRUB is looking for that drive? Reviewing the GRUB commands at the boot menu, there was no reference to it00:21
daftykinsFreeder: are you sure it's a 32-bit only xeon 0o00:21
Freederwell, I popped in a 64bit install and it yelled at me00:21
Freederso Im' assuming its 32bit00:22
daftykinsheh00:22
LoshkiFreeder: oh, I found 14.04 unstable on my own hardware and had to revert to 12.04...00:22
Freederfudge all. I think the HD is a 64bit install. This machine is even older than the one I'm moving it to00:23
boxmeinwhy's it in the installer then ;_; OerHeks00:23
Freedersigh.00:23
Freederok then... rsync'ing to a 32bit disk isn't an option then, is it00:24
Freederof course not.00:24
FreederI hate this place.00:24
LoshkiFreeder: denial, anger, bargaining, acceptance. Welcome to stage 4. What's on this disk anyway?00:25
CapitalSigmahey all00:25
cagri_well, can no one help?00:25
optrustyHi00:25
FreederProduction server.00:25
function9hi00:25
optrustyHi00:26
FreederThere's no easy way to xfer all of this then, is there00:26
opSiriHi! :D00:26
FreederI can't think of any way but to reinstall all the binaries00:26
optrusty!sudo say Hi!00:26
ubottuoptrusty: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)00:26
optrustyNot u ubottu00:26
CapitalSigmanot positive if this is on topic here, but: one of my monitors has looked a little funky (looked like scan lines) for a while. it started flickering this morning, and now if i turn it on, it stays on for a second, then turns itself off.00:26
CapitalSigmai think it's a hardware issue, but is there something i should check to make sure it's not a software issue before i spend the cash on a new monitor?00:27
Freederdaftykins / Loshki , do you concur? I'm hosed?00:27
LoshkiFreeder: Nasty. Put the disk away somewhere safe as a permanent backup. Are you confident of your ability to reconstruct the server(s)00:27
FreederYes, but its a LOT of work, heh00:28
FreederSeveral days00:28
Freederatleast I can mount this and copy configs, I guess00:28
daftykinsCapitalSigma: yes. it's called #hardware / ##hardware00:28
CapitalSigmadaftykins: i was hoping someone would suggest that it's software, oh well -- thanks00:29
LoshkiFreeder: I totally understand. Since you can spin copies of the original disk you could always experiment, but it won't save any time. My biggest worry if you move to newer versions of everything, including the servers, is that you'll hit some kind of incompatibility & it will be a huge time sink. In your place, I'd consider experimenting with different hardware.00:34
daftykinsxeon servers being non-64-bit sounds like they belong in a museum00:35
FreederI am limited to the HW I have00:35
Freederand I literally have every possible set of incompatiable stuff you could imagine00:35
FreederThis machine is 64bit! but has SCSI drives. This one is SATA, but 32bit. This one is SAS, but single core whatever!00:36
Freederno easy way to move stuff around00:36
LoshkiFreeder: Classic time (yours) vs. money (for hardware) tradeoff. Back to plan A, then? Port it to whatever you can get running...?00:37
Freederoh, and a perfect 2950, but NO USB KEYBOARD00:40
Freedersigh.00:40
cagri_Does anyone here have a geforce gt630m graphic card and use ubuntu 14.0400:40
function9cagri_: check on nvidia website and select your driver for your gfx card00:42
cagri_function9 : i just wanted to know if anyone got it, its not because i need a driver, i have one. It's just because im experiencing some troubles and want to know if thats because of my gfx card (unity spread crashes my pc)00:43
Freederok, for all the marbles... is there some way I can configure a new ubuntu install (or live CD session) over the network without having a keyboard attached to it to configure it?00:43
LoshkiFreeder: I still use ps/2. I don't like usb for debugging boot time problems...00:44
anon1_I have a headless install of Ubuntu. How do I install X so that I can run the occasional GUI app when I need it? Is it as simple as sudo apt-get install x or something like that?00:44
daftykinsFreeder: not that i know of.00:44
Freederpreseed! interesting00:44
OerHeksanon1_, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop00:45
function9cagri_: hence I gave advice to check for the latest drivers00:46
Freederheh, NOT easy00:46
anon1_OerHeks: Is there anything lighter than installing the entire Ubuntu-Desktop?00:46
LoshkiFreeder: time or money...00:47
anon1_OerHeks: Because it seems like a bad idea to do that on a server.00:47
OerHeksanon1_, openbox ?00:47
function9anon1_: blackbox or openbox00:48
anon1_OerHeks: Thanks, going to check that out.00:48
anon1_function9: Which would you recommend.00:48
anon1_function9: The Ubuntu wiki lists openbox, fluxbox and blackbox, though it always lists openbox first.00:48
function9anon1_: It's a pref thing, it's all up to you. I pref blackbox00:49
Freederanon1_: the server edition doesn't come with the GUI, if thats what you're worried about? iirc, atleast00:49
anon1_function9: I'll probably just go with openbox since I'm not really going to be using it very often.00:49
anon1_Freeder: Yes it doesn't, I prefer the console for almost everything, but very occasionally I have the need for a GUI application.00:50
function9anon1_: I haven't tried openbox, but I have worked with blackbox in the old days of the 48600:50
anon1_function9: So I've installed xorg, xauth, and openbox, but when I used the command 'openbox' it says "failed to open the display variable from DISPLAY"00:52
daftykinsanon1_: you're probably going to need a login manager still to run that - like gdm or lightdm00:53
Freedercan anyone confirm this is really a 32bit processor? Xeon 307103-00100:55
Freedergoogles is being mean to me00:56
function9anon: I'm not sure how openbox works, all i remember a long time a go, I type in the terminal: startx  when x started it called on blackbox00:56
function9my Xconfig had blackbox configured00:56
anon1_function9: Ok thanks for the info. I'm just going to make another virtual machine with the full desktop version of Ubuntu. Seems easier, and I'm sort of in a hurry.00:57
daftykinsFreeder: Prestonia, aka Pentium 4 era Xeon - so nope, 32 only00:58
Freederok, so I'm not crazy then, thanks00:58
FreederWonder if I can upgrade this to a 64bit then00:58
daftykinsFreeder: that wasn't really the usual model # i'd see though00:58
daftykinsi doubt it's worth it00:58
daftykinsFreeder: who do you work for that's using such dinosaur tech?00:59
Freederstartup00:59
rtl8188cehey folks, take 3 :) can anyone maybe help me with this wifi adapter problem in ubuntu?01:00
function9rtl8188ce: powermanagent disabled?01:00
daftykinsrtl8188ce: call me crazy but your nickname looks like a model number!01:00
rtl8188cefunction9: yup, i turned it off but the wifi traffic still fluctuates01:01
function9rtl8188ce: uefi?01:01
Freeder"The socket 603 that you have isn't upgradable to any CPU that has x64 support"01:02
Freederdamn, if thats true01:02
daftykinsFreeder: seems likely.01:02
rtl8188cefunction9: wildly, it's doing exactly this, goes up to my max download speed gradually, then abruptly it drops and repeats itself.01:02
daftykinssounds like the TCP congestion limit01:03
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rtl8188ceeven pinging my router gives me same result, several packets around 10ms, then boom 2000ms, and then back to 10+-01:03
daftykinssounds like a bad driver01:04
rtl8188cedunno if it would help fixing but i had tried suse and no such behaviour. i get this only in ubuntu and i really want to use ubuntu, if i can fix this thing.01:04
function9rtl8188ce: suse sometimes use their own drivers. You need to find out what driver suse is using01:05
rtl8188cechecked lspci, lsmod etc. every dump entry regarding the wifi and ethernet adapter was exactly same between both distros :(01:05
function9I like suse, but not for a desktop :P01:06
function9rtl8188ce: i'll say it again suse tends to use their own drivers, you need to find out what drivers they are using for your card and what version.01:07
rtl8188ceis it somehow possible to pinpoint the drivers that suse distro use for these cards and somehow save it so i can get them to ubuntu and install?01:07
rtl8188cesorry, i just started (want to start) using linux.01:07
OerHeksrtl8188ce, tried trottle down to 54 mbit?01:07
function9oh01:07
sandpiperhas anyone else been hearing of major problems with the new trusty 3.13.0-32 kernel updates a few days ago?01:08
rtl8188ceOerHeks, if you could tell me how to do that, i'd like to try out.01:08
sandpiperi have encountered major problems after updating kernel and removing OLDER kernel images and headers in synaptic01:08
OerHeksrtl8188ce, i think easiest way is in your router ?01:08
anon1_function9: I feel stupid, X was being forwarded to a window in OSX and I didn't notice.01:09
anon1_function9: So it actually works great.01:09
rtl8188ceOerHeks, gotcha, i'll check it through router interface. any header i should look for that setting?01:09
function9anon1_: it's all good :)01:10
daftykinsrtl8188ce: it'll be whether it's in a/b/g/n/ac/mixed mode etc.01:10
OerHeksrtl8188ce, or something lik modprobe rtl8188ce 11n_disable=0 ( not sure that command is oke)01:11
OerHeksdisable=101:11
rtl8188cewhile i try those 2, is it possible to know what driver suse use for a hardware, find it somewhere on the drive and store it as a package so i can use it in ubuntu?01:12
t0th_-how i can change apt-get to get only stable packages?01:12
rtl8188cei have access to both installations, so i think i can extract the driver suse use and then get it in ubuntu, IF i learn where to look for it =)01:14
daftykinsrtl8188ce: that may well be a fools errand due to different kernels, but ah well01:14
t0th_-how i can change apt-get to get only stable packages?01:15
daftykinst0th_-: what are you running?01:16
Beldart0th_-, What makes you think it's not, and your definition of stable please.01:16
Freederok, attempting to install 14.04 32bit to a fresh disk. Selected 'install ubuntu', get a few graphics flash on the screen, and then it goes back to the mouse arrow blinking on/off on the screen01:16
t0th_-daftykins:  14/0401:16
rtl8188cedaftykins, hmm. any suggestions? i mean if a clean suse can operate the adapter flawlessly and ubuntu can't, i thought i could somehow identify the differences (drivers etc) and make those changes in ubuntu. i may be way off wrong ofcourse.01:17
BeldarFreeder, This from the desktop or the first gui with other options?01:17
daftykinsrtl8188ce: none you'll like.01:18
FreederI'm booting from the CD, I select 'install ubuntu' on the first screen01:18
Freederafter that, it goes to the blinking screen01:18
daftykinsFreeder: what version CD?01:18
BeldarFreeder, Try to get to the desktop lets see if this is just a graphic issue01:18
FreederI can move the mouse for the second its on the screen, but the next blink resets it to the center01:18
rtl8188cedaftykins, i saw lots and lots of threads opened by owners of this particular card, "rtl8188ce", and tried almost all of them but nothing worked.01:18
nimbioticsHello. Using ubuntu 14.04 on a dual boot machine, when I try to open the windows NTFS partition I get an error message (http://paste.ubuntu.com/7817206/) that basically tells me that the NTFS partition is in an unsafe state: It is not. Is there a way to fix this? TIA!!01:18
Freeder14.04 32bit01:18
FreederBeldar, not sure how to do that.. it doesnt respond to anything01:18
daftykinsFreeder: why are you installing desktop on a server?01:18
Freeder.... 32bit01:19
daftykinsnimbiotics: windows 8.1 system?01:19
Freederthere's no 32bit server, for 14.04 atleast01:19
BeldarFreeder, So what happens if you try the try ubuntu option?01:19
FreederSame exact thing01:19
rtl8188cedaftykins, it would be shame not being able to use ubuntu because of a wifi card, when it works on some another distro.01:19
daftykinsrtl8188ce: yeah, unfortunately i have no patience for wireless issues i'm afraid. i use cables on my desktops.01:20
FreederI can mash on Alt-F2 and get the shell for a second, but the blink resets it to the mouse arror01:20
nimbioticsdaftykins: its windows 8 ... not sure about the .1 portion. The point is that I used to open the partition w/no issues, I jast had not done it in months01:20
BeldarFreeder, Have you run a md5sum check? Is this a server version or desktop?01:20
daftykinsnimbiotics: the windows machine probably hasn't shutdown safely. you need to use shift+shutdown unless you've disabled hybrid shutdown.01:20
FreederI feel like im' getting punked now :P01:21
Beldarnimbiotics, Boot windows and have it do a disk check in computer.01:21
function9rtl8188ce: I use kubuntu, which has the knetworkmanager for my wifi stuff01:21
Freeder32bit desktop 14.0401:21
daftykinsnimbiotics: in fact it says Windows is hibernated... go and shut it down properly.01:21
BeldarFreeder, Do you want help, I saw this "Freeder> there's no 32bit server, for 14.04 atleast" that is why I asked.01:21
nimbioticsdaftykins: I have not disabled hybrid shutdown as I had never heard of it. I just did that check again and I did shut it down properly01:22
RBX129KHi, I accidentally overrode my Windows 7 with Ubuntu. Is there any way I can recover Windows 7?01:22
rtl8188cefunction9: ubuntu also had this "wicd" which is reported as a fix for this particular card.01:23
nimbioticsdaftykins: what does shift+shutdown do?01:23
rtl8188cefunction9: gonna try that this time then.01:23
BeldarRBX129K, Are you on that ubuntu now, if so how long have you been running it?01:23
RBX129KI've just installed it about two hours ago.01:23
daftykinsnimbiotics: shutdown properly... windows 8 when told to shutdown does a kind of write to disk, this is all beyond the scope of this channel, just follow the advice to solve the problem please. you can research windows 8 shutdown online :)01:23
RBX129KAnd yes, I'm on it.01:23
nimbioticsdaftykins: I am sure I did shut it down properly01:24
BeldarRBX129K, Bad idea, the longer you use it the less likely you can recover it, boot a live.01:24
Freederrunning an integrity check right now01:24
RBX129KDumb question, what do you mean "boot a live?"01:24
daftykinsnimbiotics: and as you don't know about the above please use the shift method - i'd like for our conversation to stop going around in circles, so if you could go do that it'd be great :)01:24
RBX129KInsert the CD I've burned?01:25
BeldarRBX129K, The live dvd/usb the one you used to install with.01:25
RBX129KAlright.01:25
nimbioticsdaftykins: OK, will try shift+shutdown01:25
nimbioticsdaftykins. beldar: thanks01:25
koellhow do i logout from Lubuntu via terminal?01:27
koellall i found on the net is from ubuntu, but not lubuntu and lxde01:27
function9koell:01:27
function9koell: exit01:27
OerHekssudo shutdown -P now01:28
koellfunction9: logout in terms of "logout from the gui" so i can enter a different username and password01:28
koellOerHeks: this will poweroff my pc01:28
OerHekskoell, yes, you didn't ask logout01:28
function9lol01:28
OerHeksoh you did, my bad01:28
koell?01:28
Freederok, integrity check came back fine01:29
function9right click and check if you have an option to logout01:29
Freedertheres no 'low graphics mode' or something similar i can force?01:29
Beldar!nomodeset | Freeder01:30
ubottuFreeder: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter01:30
FreederBeldar, but from the live cd?01:30
Freederoh, its under an F key, isnt it01:30
BeldarFreeder, Read the link, please do not just immediate react.01:30
Beldarf6 I think01:31
RBX129KOkay, I'm on a live version of Ubuntu.01:35
FreederThe Ubuntu 14.04 screen pops up, colored dots go underneath the text, goes to a white screen, the orange/purple background, and then back to the flashy mouse again (nomodeset this time)01:36
RBX129KWhat should I do, now?01:36
BeldarRBX129K, In general we suggest testdisk, however you have ubuntu is there anything there that needs saving?01:36
RBX129KNo, nothing needs saving.01:37
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RBX129KDoesn't "testdisk" only restore files previously, and not the OS itself, or can you reinstall Windows 7 via testdisk?01:37
daftykinsRBX129K: do you have another hard disk besides the one windows was on?01:38
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RBX129KI have a D: drive.01:38
BeldarRBX129K, http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk  You should always have backups that include an image/clone.01:38
Guest27800sssss01:38
Guest27800W a Y01:38
BeldarRBX129K, Is D an actual HD?01:39
RBX129KI don't know. How do I check?01:39
BeldarRBX129K, Run sudo parted -l in ubuntu and pastbin the info01:39
Beldar!pastebin | RBX129K01:39
ubottuRBX129K: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.01:39
daniloncHello Everybody!01:41
RBX129Khttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7817330/01:41
daniloncI'm trying to remote boot/unlock a Luks root FS over SSH01:41
daniloncI'm running a Ubuntu Server 14.0401:42
unreal-dudeis there a command line method to reboot into the grub menu?01:42
BeldarRBX129K, Preface answer to others here with their nick like you see yours here. I see one HD nothing which would be D01:43
OerHeksunreal-dude, no, hold shift to enter grub menu01:43
unreal-dudedoesn't work01:43
unreal-dudeholding, nor repeatedly pressing01:43
daniloncI could accomplished that by mounting it manually01:43
danilonce.g.01:43
danilonc/sbin/cryptsetup -T 1 --allow-discards luksOpen /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx sda5_crypt --key-file=-01:43
daniloncbut them i have to kill 2 process that are waiting my password on tty001:44
daftykinsunreal-dude: you could be doing it too slow.01:44
daniloncDoes anybody knows how to make the /lib/cryptsetup/passfifo  to work01:45
unreal-dudei could be, i started pressing during boot menu01:45
unreal-dudei tried holding starting during and slightly after post as well01:45
unreal-dude*boot menu = post01:45
BeldarRBX129K, Anyway your D was probably on that single HD unless you have an external not showing. Check out testdisk for recovery.01:47
RBX129KWill testdisk recover my Windows 7, or the files that were in my computer before I swapped?01:47
BeldarRBX129K, Hard to say you used it for at least 2 hours, no guarantees at any time, thats why you should have been backed up.01:48
BeldarRBX129K, You could ask in ##windows01:49
BeldarRBX129K, for recovery help01:50
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daniloncJust found a solution here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/595648/comments/501:55
ubottuUbuntu bug 595648 in cryptsetup (Ubuntu) "Remote unlocking not possible if plymouth is active (Bug or Feature?)" [Low,Triaged]01:55
anon1_I am installing the full desktop version of Ubuntu via virtualbox on top of OSX. Are there specific drivers that I need to install in Ubuntu?01:56
daftykinsanon1_: such questions are relevant to the use and documentation of virtualbox, not to the support of ubuntu :)01:56
Beldaranon1_, Virtual has its own drivers01:57
rajmahendraI have upgraded my os ot new version of ubuntu... once i give password i see only a black screen and move i dont see anything ... can anyone help me ?02:00
Beldarrajmahendra, Have you had to load graphic drivers in the past? They do not follow upgrades.02:01
rajmahendrai just used the update-manager to uograde...02:02
Beldarrajmahendra, Does not matter nor answers the question.02:02
rajmahendraI tried to install gnome on ubunty as well but not succeded.02:02
rajmahendrawill that create any issue ?02:03
Beldarrajmahendra, Starting with actually answering questions here is important.02:03
Beldar!in02:05
ubottu#ubuntu-in is the channel for Ubuntu in India02:05
Beldarrajmahendra, ^^^02:06
laspahreeee: can I get your opinion on something?02:06
eeeeyeah sure02:06
laspahrhttp://www.noobslab.com/2014/04/macbuntu-1404-pack-is-released.html02:06
eeeedid the boot work btw?02:06
laspahrI haven't turned it off yet, I just got home heh..02:06
eeeeoh ok02:07
laspahrwould you trust that page, and should it be okay to install?02:07
eeeehonestly i dont know...02:07
laspahrthat's what I had on my laptop before but it got lost when I did the reinstall IG02:07
laspahralright, well I'll look through it, if it looks like too much then i'll hold off. I don't NEED it02:07
daftykins!ppa | laspahr02:08
ubottulaspahr: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge02:08
laspahrjust looks a little cleaner than stock ubuntu02:08
OerHeksthat macbuntu package is known to give issues, try it if you like it, but please, do not ask for help :-D02:08
chris0brhi02:08
laspahrI used it, and didn't seem to give me problems but probably wouldn't hurt to check other options..?02:08
laspahrI won't install the package, i install everything seperately02:09
laspahrunless the package is all the commands02:09
chris0brAnyone here has experience mounting windows shares ?02:09
daftykinsyes.02:09
laspahrlike Windows partitions from a dualboot?02:09
chris0brCould mount all units, but bigger drives do not mount at all02:09
chris0brNo, mount SMB shares02:09
daftykins"units" ?02:10
chris0brMy 2TB and 4TB windows shares do not mount at all.02:10
daftykinsare you attempting to use admin shares or have you created names?02:10
chris0brI could mount 7 external HDDs thru my network with no flaw, but bigger drives only get fail02:10
chris0brAll units with names and all mounted, but big drives did not02:11
laspahrOerHeks: any alternatives that give the same look for 14.04?02:12
daftykinswhat's this 'unit' term you're using?02:12
TJ-chris0br: did you check the Windows Event Logs for errors?02:12
chris0brWindows drives02:12
daftykinsso... disks02:12
daftykinsas TJ- said then - sounds like they're GPT ones?02:12
OerHekslaspahr, i don't care about those wannabe-osx-themes, i think it is blasfemie02:13
chris0brYep, they are GPT, do you know if there is a problems to mount them thru SMB ?02:13
laspahrOerHeks: alright, any clean Ubuntu themes then?02:13
laspahrI don't really like the built in ones02:13
chris0brSmaller drives (from 120GB to 1TB) mounted fine, but the bigger units only failed02:14
OerHekslots of themes on gnome-look.org02:14
laspahrokay.. and is there anything in particular that seems to give problems on macbuntu?02:15
OerHekschris0br, what is the filesystem on those big drives?02:15
chris0brNTFS02:15
daftykinschris0br: what do Windows logs say and what do the client logs say?02:16
chris0brI do not know where I can get those logs, since I am mounting them with the file explorer02:16
chris0brThe only message it says is "Failed to mount Windows share"02:17
daftykinsoh, you never mentioned this.02:18
OerHekslaspahr, i just warned you, i don't go find out what is exactly wrong, it is not supported02:18
daftykinschris0br: do you not want them to be available every boot? 0o02:18
laspahrokay.. well I think I might've found a better theme that I like more on gnome-look02:18
laspahrthanks!02:18
OerHekshave fun :-)02:18
chris0brHi, I do not need them to automount02:20
chris0brI can keep them bookmarked for easy access, but thats all02:20
laspahrto install tar.gz you have to use dpkg right?02:21
laspahrOerHeks: Have you installed themes from gnome-look before..? not sure what file to d/l and install or what.. heh02:23
laspahrI have the .zip, but not sure what .tar.gz02:23
daftykins!theme02:23
ubottuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freecode.com/tags/theme - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy02:23
laspahr......02:24
laspahrI mean how to install it from gnome-look02:24
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daftykinsyeah i was hoping that trigger had a guide02:24
daftykinsi bet gnome-look has a guide.02:24
daftykinsi bet OerHeks's breakfast on it.02:24
eeeelol :-)02:24
laspahreeee: could you be of any help..?02:25
xin0algun chileno ?02:25
chris0brAny idea about the mount problem ?02:25
daftykinschris0br: well you didn't answer me yet so i can't continue02:26
daftykinsoh you did02:26
daftykinschris0br: i would diagnose via command line mounts02:26
laspahrhmm.. maybe I should think a bit before I go look for a theme.. these are for Gnome haha...02:27
laspahrI'm not on gnome..02:27
daftykinsno wiser statement was ever made.02:27
chris0brI am gonna check the command lines for gvfs stuff and check l8r here02:27
chris0brYou know if there is a size limit to mount SMB shares ?02:28
laspahr...02:28
daftykinschris0br: use smbclient to test connect, then try test mounting to a /path/02:28
chris0brCos its weird that only bigger hdds did not mount02:28
eeeelaspahr: I've no idea about it02:28
laspahrI'm on wiki.ubuntu.com/artwork but idk where all the themes are02:28
daftykinschris0br: i am not aware of any issue that would cause this, i'd have mentioned it by now02:28
chris0brdaftykins: tks, gonna check this and with other distros too02:28
daftykinslaspahr: really, this is about as irrelevant for a support channel as i can consider02:29
chris0brok, tks02:29
ApteryxHello! I'm having problems with a bluetooth keyboard. It connects fine, but the layout is completely foobared. It's unusable.02:29
chris0brgonna check here, tks02:29
ApteryxAny tips about what I should try to get it fixed? It used to work nicely!02:30
ApteryxAnd still work with a Windows PC so the hardware is fine.02:30
ApteryxI'm using Ubuntu 14.04 with the latest updates.02:30
jmanPlease help. i just downloaded a tar gz file update and i tried to manually copy and paste  the files in the folder where they belong and it says i don't have permission on my admin account! can anyone shed some light on the situation or help me do it in the terminal02:33
function9jman: did you use root to unzip that file? sudo chmod 777 file02:35
daftykinsjman: not much detail to go on there... what did you download, what system is this?02:35
jmanthe adobe flash tar gz and extracted to desktop02:35
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jmanubuntu 12.0402:35
daftykinsjman: that is not how to install flash on ubuntu.02:36
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daftykins!flash | jman02:37
ubottujman: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash02:37
jmandaftykins flash is already on here i downloaded the update02:37
bodhi_zazendaftykins, too bad gnash does not work better or peopel do not migrate to html5 already02:37
daftykinsjman: so what are you doing downloading it manually? :)02:37
jmanbrb02:38
function9bodhi_zazen: html5 is a bit lighter to use, but still resource hungry02:39
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bodhi_zazenfunction9, ?02:40
daftykinskinda off topic guys02:40
function9sorry02:40
jmandaftykins i need 11.2.202.39402:40
bodhi_zazenlighter then what ? resource hungry compared to what ?02:40
daftykinsjman: is that older? why.02:41
jmanits the newer one according to adobe02:41
jmanand cant get it with software center02:41
bodhi_zazenjman, is there some reason you do no want to install with apt-get ?02:41
jmandidn't know what too type for program name02:42
bodhi_zazen!flash|jman02:42
ubottujman: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash02:42
Jeffrey_fjman: flash is in ubuntu-restricted-extras02:43
jmannot version 11.2.202.39402:43
daftykinsjman: wait for it to get packaged up and be available in updates.02:43
jman:(02:43
daftykinswhy is this such a big deal to you?02:43
jmanwifey wants to play her game02:43
jmangotta keep her happy02:44
Jeffrey_fjman: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras    <---should do it02:44
daftykinsjman: are you using firefox02:44
OerHeks!info flashplugin-installer02:45
ubottuflashplugin-installer (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 11.2.202.394ubuntu0.14.04.1 (trusty), package size 6 kB, installed size 137 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)02:45
OerHekssee, it is02:45
jmanjeffrey_f, i already have that02:45
daftykinsjman: is this firefox...02:45
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jmandaftykins yes02:45
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daftykinsjman: hit ctrl+shift+A in firefox, go to plugins... is flash listed?02:46
vibraniumWhat is the best hobby for a programmer?02:46
editionmusic02:46
editionjogging02:47
daftykinsedition: don't encourage the off-topic-ers please02:47
editionhow do I restore the notification area. I think it was affected by Unity.02:47
fiodorwhere  am  i02:47
editionim using xubuntu.02:47
jmanyes but it says shockwave flash02:48
daftykinsjman: correct, and that is adobe flash...02:48
daftykinsjman: http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player.html02:48
vibraniumSorry, what was the topic?02:48
jmanthats weird it list the same version the game is telling me to install02:48
fiodorhere there is not  topic02:49
fiodoreverybody  talks  what it  wants  to02:49
OerHeks!topic > fiodor vibranium02:49
ubottufiodor, please see my private message02:49
OerHeks!topic > vibranium02:49
ubottuvibranium, please see my private message02:49
daftykinsjman: and what is it you're trying to run... what is this game?02:50
OerHeksdaftykins, facebook games, i guess02:51
jmanfarmville 202:51
fiodori dont use to  talk in  private form02:51
jmanon facebook02:51
jcstarkenhey trying set up my 14.04 so that I can sync my fitbit looking for galileo any ideas?02:51
jmaneverything else works02:51
wormanyone configured tun/tap tun6to4 module on ubuntu?02:51
fiodori  prefer do it  here  ,  among  all you02:52
Beldarfiodor, Do you need support?02:52
fiodori only  do  that when  i am  practicing  spoken  english02:52
daftykinsjman: go somewhere else and test other flash content02:53
Beldarfiodor, This is support there is a offtopic channel for chat.02:53
wormBeldar: are you good with tun/tap ipv6 setup?02:53
jmandaftykins everything else works just fine02:53
Beldarworm, NO and don't just start asking people it is rude.02:53
wormthanks.02:54
wormi thought ur from supporters :s02:54
daftykinsjman: oh well, sorry, you're on your own.02:54
OerHeksjman, you might want to try chrome with buildin flash, as a last resort02:54
jmandaftykins thanks02:54
jmanthanks everyone for the help02:55
bodhi_zazenjman, see http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/flashmanual02:55
bodhi_zazenjust change the version is all02:56
ApteryxHey. I could fix my Apple Bluetooth Wireless keyboard finally. I disabled the text input shortcuts settings, unpaired it, repaired, and bingo... Strange!02:56
editionhow to restore xubuntu notification area?02:56
metabsdThis is the good channel to get some help about ubuntu ?02:57
editionany ideas?02:57
bodhi_zazenwhat is wrong with it edition ?02:57
Beldarmetabsd, You are on it.02:57
duametabsd, we can help02:57
editionafter changing my mind on Unity, it caused the notfication area to crash, asking to relaunch02:58
reisioedition: ?02:58
editiontried to install unity on xubuntu02:58
Orvontonhello hello there02:58
editionthe other panels work fine02:58
metabsdI use ubuntu 14.04 and i configure my headset bluetooth (TurtleBeach). I see the device in bluetooth and soud setting but when i select the device as the output device the mic not working. Any Idea ?? I google a lot but don't find anyting.02:58
Orvontoncant see my chat damn it02:59
bodhi_zazenedition, well, just stating it crashes does not give us much to go on02:59
Orvontontest02:59
BeldarOrvonton, We see you, do you see this?03:00
Orvontonya i see that, i just dont see my own text, perhaps of the color03:00
bodhi_zazenedition, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-indicator-plugin/+bug/131160603:00
ubottuUbuntu bug 1307657 in xfce4-indicator-plugin (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1311606 UBUNTU_MENUPROXY should not be set in Xfce" [Undecided,Confirmed]03:00
editionthanks03:00
Orvontonok fixed it03:01
AbouEmreI am trying to get a java applet to work on trusty tar can anybody help?03:03
AbouEmreI am running up to date 14.04 AMD64 I have default-java installed via apt-get03:04
Jeffrey_fAbouEmre: is this a single .jar file?03:04
AbouEmreno it is a webbased03:04
editiontried to restart xfce4-indicator03:04
editioni mean xfce4-panel -r03:04
AbouEmreI also ahve icedtea web plugi install03:05
edition"Plugin "Indicator Plugin" unexpectedly left the panel, do you want to restart it?"03:05
AbouEmreI do get an access message03:06
dua<AbouEmre> What browser do you have?03:06
AbouEmreFF3003:06
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dua<AbouEmre> Check this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java03:08
duaLook at the title 'GNU Compiler for Java'03:08
dua<AbouEmre> Try to install Gcjwebplugin03:09
reisiowhy've you changed your XChat config to be weird? :p03:10
AbouEmre<dua> thanks I am looking at it right now03:10
reisiotwo of you... with different IRC clients? That is too weird03:11
editionhow to restore the indicator plugin?03:11
dua<AbouEmre> you're welcome :)03:11
SilvarHello there,03:11
function9hi03:11
reisioSilvar: 'lo03:11
SilvarI need some help configuring the firewall for Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. More so, I can't access the firewall.03:12
tdannecySilvar: Have you checked out this page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW03:13
dua<edition> sudo apt-get install xfce4-indicator-plugin is valid for you?03:13
Silvartdannecy: Thanks for that, I have not tried that.03:13
tdannecySilvar: Also, there's an application called "gufw" that is a graphical manager for the firewall.03:14
SilvarI just tried iptables and nothing get an error. let me check out the page.03:14
SilvarThis is for a VPS :P03:14
Silvarso no gui03:14
tdannecySilvar: Ah.03:14
SilvarWell, the first command didn't do anything :(03:14
daftykinsSilvar: learning to configure a firewall at command line with a VPS... very bad idea.03:15
Silvari tired sudo ufw enable,03:15
daftykinsyou'll lock yourself out03:15
SilvarWell, I wanted to install Ajenti on this vps. and it worked correctly.03:15
eeeehow can i tell if a ext hdd is plugged into a usb 3.0 not usb 2.0?03:15
Silvarbut can't get into the panel and I think I need to unblock port 800003:15
metabsdI use ubuntu 14.04 and i configure my headset bluetooth (TurtleBeach). I see the device in bluetooth and soud setting but when i select the device as the output device the mic not working. Any Idea ?? I google a lot but don't find anyting.03:16
SilvarSo, do I need to install iptables package?03:17
tdannecyeeee: Can you run "lspci" in the terminal? See if it spits out anything there.03:17
reisioeeee: the plastic tends to be blue, doesn't it?03:18
eeeereisio: not always, i checked it isn't but the manufacturer's website says i have usb 3.003:18
reisioalso transfer speed would be apparently different03:18
dua<metabsd> Can you listen something with the headphones?03:19
eeeeyeah i tried testing, lsusb isn't showing much info except that i have usb 3.0 i think03:19
metabsddua: yes03:19
SilvarAnyone have any ideas why the command "sudo ufw enable" does nothing on a fresh Ubuntu 14.04 LTS  install?03:20
metabsddua: input work without bluetooth03:20
duametabsd: Is the microphone integrated with headphones?03:21
metabsddua: yes, turtle beach xp30003:21
syntroPiis the newest trusty kernel 3.13.0-32-generic compatible with nvidia 340.24? i get no GUI and have to reboot via sysrq !!!03:22
reisiosyntroPi: it either is or it isn't03:24
duametabsd: Maybe you can try with this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AudioCapture03:24
metabsddua: already try03:26
syntroPireisio, seems it tries to load nvidia AND nouveau simultanously03:27
reisiosyntroPi: that would be problematic indeed03:27
metabsddua: the mic of my webcam work but not the headset03:27
syntroPireisio, can i savely uninstall nouveau completely?03:27
Blue1is there a way to lock a task to a specific window in xfce?  for example when I click on a link in an email the browser shifts to the workspace the email client is in.03:27
reisiosyntroPi: yes, it's just software03:27
BrandonChey all03:28
function9hi03:28
BrandonCjust installed ubuntu with windows03:28
reisioBlue1: I'd ask #xfce about it03:28
reisioBrandonC: hi, gj03:28
SchrodingersScatBlue1: jumping workspaces when it gains focus?  It's /somewhere/ in the settings03:28
BrandonCgave up waiting fo rroot device03:28
daftykinsBrandonC: what do you mean 'with windows'03:28
BrandonCduel boot03:28
reisiodual*03:29
BrandonCinsted of replace windows03:29
BrandonCoh ok03:29
BrandonCdual03:29
reisio:)03:29
BrandonCwow almost went off topic.. um03:29
Blue1SchrodingersScat: yup i just don't know where it is -- it's NOT in workspace settings that's for sure.03:29
SchrodingersScatBlue1: look for maybe 'window manager tweaks' > 'focus'03:29
metabsddua: i test all the device i see in audacity and the only one working is the webcam mic03:29
SilvarAnyone have any ideas why the command "sudo ufw enable" does nothing on a fresh Ubuntu 14.04 LTS  install?03:29
SchrodingersScatBlue1: IIRC i set mine to 'do nothing' because I also hate that.03:29
BrandonCAlert! /dev/disk/by-uuid/d3386ad5-f2e9... does not exist, dropping to a shell03:30
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Blue1SchrodingersScat: that was it -- many thanks.03:31
SchrodingersScatBlue1: great, welcome03:31
function9Silvar: what are you trying to achieve?03:33
Silvarfuntion9: to open port 800003:33
visceraI've set a grey-ish wallpaper but the file selection rectangle is now not visible. How can I make it visible?03:33
viscerai.e. the colour is too similar to the wallpaper03:33
SilvarI am thinking the problem might be with my provider.03:33
function9Silvar: install gufw03:33
SilvarIt's a VPS.03:34
Blue1Silvar: usually you open a port in the router03:34
Silvarusing the OpenVZ platform03:34
bausSilvar use Vzfirewall03:35
Silvarbaus: Thanks for that. going to reseach that command03:36
SilvarYep, looks like I need to open a ticket with my provider.03:37
mofaihi, I03:38
mofaiI've installed a wireless driver named MT7601USTA03:38
mofaihowever, would like to use an ndiswrapper instead. how can I remove the old driver?03:39
mofaisorry for newbie question03:39
mofaicannot find answer from google03:39
mofaiit's for tp-link wireless usb dongle03:40
relue271#llvm03:41
Silvarbaus: I tried the command vzfirewall and it still doesn't work. Just for more information, I wanted to install the Ajenti control panel to futher control my VPS. and It installed with no errors. but i can not access the panel. I think I need to unblock port 800003:41
Blue1Silvar: again that is usually a function of a router -- if you don't have one then try telnet localhost 8000      that will tell you if that port is open.03:43
SilvarBlue1: Well, checking the port, It's unblocked...03:45
Silvarso then there might have been a configuration error...03:45
Blue1Silvar: so you did get a response back then?  do you have a router?03:46
SilvarNo response, i used a port checking website.03:46
Silvarand port 8000 was open.03:46
SilvarGrr, still can't access my panel.03:47
SilvarAnyone mind a PM and see if they can reach my panel?03:47
editiondua: nothing happens03:48
daftykinsSilvar: are you sure that a daemon on that port is even running? "netstat -tuln"03:48
Silvardaftykins: yes it is03:49
duaedition: Can you disable your cam or your cam mic?03:50
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duaedition: Maybe that is the problem03:50
SilvarRestarted the service and it still doesn't work :(03:52
metabsd2/save03:54
malohhreeWhich is the best chat room for beginners? :)03:54
BrandonCis there a repair i can do from ubuntu cd?03:55
daftykinsmalohhree: there isn't, support questions in here only really.03:55
BrandonCdo i boot from cd?03:55
reisiomalohhree: for Ubuntu beginners? Here03:55
reisioBrandonC: to repair what?03:55
BrandonCmy ubuntu install03:56
duaBrandonC: Yes, you can boot from a Ubuntu CD for repair your installation03:56
BeldarBrandonC, If you chroot in you are using the install, try addressing the actual issue.03:56
duaBrandonC: Is your grub crashed?03:56
malohhreeOkay! In your opinion, what is the best way to learn Bash, Linux, etc.?03:56
reisiomalohhree: jump in03:57
daftykins!documentation | malohhree03:57
ubottumalohhree: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com03:57
BrandonCAlert! /dev/disk/by-uuid/d3386ad5-f2e9... does not exist, dropping to a shell03:57
reisioBrandonC: you get a shell?03:57
BrandonCya03:57
malohhreeThank you! :)03:57
reisioBrandonC: grep -i d3386 /etc/fstab03:58
SilvarI got it working fellas.03:58
BrandonCreisio, type that?03:58
reisioBrandonC: yes03:58
reisioSilvar: gj03:58
reisioSilvar: tell the channel how, for posterity03:58
SilvarI looked into the config file, the service was using the ip "0.0.0.0"03:58
lotuspsychjecan someone remove 13.10 from topic, its eol03:59
Silvarchanged it to the ip of the vps, and it worked.03:59
metabsd /run autorun/hilightwin.pl03:59
reisiometabsd: !!! :p04:00
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BrandonCreisio, no such file or directory04:08
reisioBrandonC: best boot up the live OS, then04:08
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bonghello ive heard that we do not need firewalls at all in lubuntu bcoz it does not have open ports by default. is this true that i do not need firewalls?04:12
reisiobong: there is less of a need, but they're still useful04:12
reisiowhich is why Linux has one04:12
bonghello ive heard that we do not need firewalls at all in lubuntu bcoz it does not have open ports by default. is this true that i do not need firewalls?04:13
bongreisio u talking to me?04:14
reisiobong: how could you tell?04:14
reisiowas it how I put your nick in front of the msg? :)04:15
* daftykins calls in Sherlock Holmes04:15
bongreisio im sorry i saw only....  which is why Linux has one. hehe.04:18
reisio:p04:19
bongreisio so we just install linux and thats it??04:22
reisiobong: no, you'd have to configure it to fully exploit it04:23
rtl8188cehi, this will sound stupid but, how can i make a shortcut on desktop to an executable file? i'd love to be able to click n run it without going in terminal, heading to appropriate folder and doing "./appnamehere"04:23
reisiobong: but there is indeed much less need for a tightly configured firewall for Unix systems04:23
reisiortl8188ce: right click, probably04:23
reisiortl8188ce: something about a launcher04:23
reisiortl8188ce: you could also use ln -s /path/to/original /path/to/shortcut04:24
rtl8188cereisio, hey again reisio, i made a link to the executable and put it in desktop but i think something else is wrong.04:25
reisiobummer04:25
rtl8188cereisio, neither the executable file, nor the link is opening the app on dclick04:26
bongreisio do u use a firewall??04:26
rtl8188ceonly way i managed to run it is to open a term on the folder and do ./xyz04:26
rfoleyanyone very familiar with install from dvd?  have installed before but am having "unable to find a medium containing a live file system" error on a older pentium4 board.04:27
reisiobong: nope, but I would for a server box04:27
reisiorfoley: didn't want to use a USB stick?04:27
editionis there a way of reinstalling xfce4?04:27
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rfoleyreisio no boot from usp on this one04:28
rfoleyand had disc from another machine couple weeks ago04:29
rfoleyis there a way to trigger install manually from the busybox shell?04:29
reisiorfoley: make sure you burn slowly04:29
reisioand check sums04:29
editionhow to replace xfce, with standard ubuntu desktop?04:30
MavKentasksel04:30
icerootedition: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop04:30
editionthanks :)04:30
overmachtreisio, ha04:30
rfoleyreisio have used on another install, burned 2x speed.  and checks ok04:30
editionthis wont cause clashes?04:30
unreal-dudeedition then choose it on login screen on top right04:30
icerootedition: no04:30
toolazyforanameedition, you can select your DE in your login manager04:30
editionwhat if it doesn't?04:31
toolazyforanamedoesn't what04:31
icerootedition: when it does not what?04:31
editionnevermind. it will work :)04:31
kelvinDoes anybody use a Macbook Pro retina with Ubuntu?04:31
icerootkelvin: i think so04:32
* edition is shocked04:32
BrandonCfirst time i booted comp the try me/install came up fast, this time taking like.. 20 min04:32
icerootkelvin: but hopefully not04:32
kelvinI have one and it's amazing04:32
kelvinThe only problem is that my keyboard stops working after suspend04:32
iceroot!mac | kelvin04:33
ubottukelvin: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages04:33
kelvinI already have it installed04:33
icerootkelvin: installing and using says the text04:33
toolazyforanameout of curiosity, how is the fan controller on ubuntu?04:33
icerootkelvin: luckily i dont own these jails so i dont know the issue but maybe its a known one04:34
kelvintoolazy, it seems just fine to me04:34
tlanixhello04:35
tlanixhow do i remove xchat and install hexchat04:35
toolazyforanamelast time i installed a *nix system on my mbp, the fan module didn't throttle the speed at all. I guess that's why I am asking04:35
iceroottoolazyforaname: it depends on your hardware, there may be issues with some boards but normally it should work04:36
bongive got LibreOffice_4.2.5_Linux_x86_deb.tar.gz downloaded, how do i install this?04:36
icerootbong: dont install it that way04:36
icerootbong: always use the repo instead of manually downloaded deb files04:36
icerootbong: sudo apt-get install libreoffice04:37
reisiotlanix: same as anything04:37
nullsign-time for russian sysadmin roulette..04:37
nullsign-# [ $[ $RANDOM % 6 ] == 0 ] && rm -rf / || echo “Lucky boy…”;04:37
iceroot!danger04:37
ubottuDO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND! That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you!04:37
iceroot!op | nullsign-04:37
ubottunullsign-: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang04:37
reisioiceroot: what's dangerous about it?04:37
nullsign-http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2014/05/16/roulette-russe-2/04:37
rwwhowdy04:37
icerootnullsign-: and your command will not work on bash04:37
rtl8188cei have this old roguelike adom downloaded and i can't get it to work by clicking, i have to open term and type ./adom everytime. is it possible to make a clickable shortcut?04:38
nullsign-reisio: it's russian roulette04:38
colin_hi all. i want to know  how to save the nvidia settings.it says i dont i need to save it as root. each time i restart my pc.i have to set again04:38
reisionullsign-: hrmm?04:38
rwwnullsign-: 1) that doesn't work these days, 2) please stick to support in here, thanks04:38
icerootreisio: it will do nothimng because he is stupid and things rm -r / works04:38
nullsign-it's a 1 in 6 chance of doing rm -rf /04:38
reisioiceroot: yeah04:38
icerootnullsign-: rm -r / will do nothing04:38
reisionullsign-: it's a 0 chance04:38
icerootnullsign-: still you are stupid and not welcomed here04:38
reisioso why did we just suffer that spam04:38
rtl8188cei already set the file as executable but nothing happens on dclick04:38
rwwiceroot: can we not call people names, thanks04:38
icerootreisio: because not respecting the rules here, we dont need people like that04:38
nullsign-no sense of humor.04:39
icerootrww: ok, i will stop it, support such people here04:39
rwwnullsign-: unfortunately, in a large support channel, you need to sacrifice some humor to stop the channel from being unusable :(04:39
nullsign-fair enough. i04:39
bongiceroot i didnt use repos bcoz power is unreliable in these places. i was afraid i might hose down the system  if power goes out halfway through the install.04:40
icerootbong: and the same your are not afraif if installing it locally?04:41
lotuspsychjerww: can you remove 13.10 from topic?04:42
apb1963so I'm about to take the plunge (ok I already did) and reboot using a newly installed disk that I put together with debootstrap.  Immediately I noticed a few things.  1) The color of the login screen changed from a dark blue gradient with purple to a light blue.  2) All my desktop settings were gone.  Is it as simple (and safe?) as just copying my ~/.kde dir to the new disk?04:42
rwwlotuspsychje: researching, sec04:42
lotuspsychjerww: tnx04:43
reisioapb1963: possibly04:43
apb1963ubuntu 12.0404:43
reisioapb1963: you might want to mv the extant ~/.kde first04:43
reisioapb1963: or at least cp04:43
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lotuspsychjerww: tnx mate : )04:44
lotuspsychjeneat LTS row04:44
apb1963reisio: ok, backups are always a good idea and yes I'm notorious for forgetting to do that, so thank you for that.  Anything else?04:45
reisioone step at a time04:45
editionhow can i make the Dash menu horizontal, like in xfce?04:47
apb1963reisio: no I need to get all the important steps down... I booted it up and had nothing to work with.  I couldn't even login here.  I need to install aptik and get my packages back... of course aptik wants to install half the world so I need to come back and ask if what it wants to install is safe... I got burned by some package upgrading my qt lib and I've been suffering ever since.04:48
apb1963Which is one major reason for the new disk.04:48
reisioedition: at the bottom?04:48
editionyes\04:48
editionand the window buttons at the right04:48
reisioedition: there's a bug on it at launchpad.net with solutions in the comments04:48
_editionok. how to set the window buttons to the right?04:52
function9_edition: are you using xfce?04:53
Beldar_edition> ok. how to set the window buttons to the right? The left panel?04:54
reisio!tweak04:54
_editionubuntu unity04:56
ios-7-melhi04:56
reisiohi ios04:56
Beldar_edition, Not much you can do with unity beyond themes as far as moving aore changing controls.04:56
ios-7-melhow u doing?04:56
reisioyou can move the window decorations, though :)04:57
reisioand the bar04:57
reisioso...04:57
tharkunios-7-mel: Any questions regarding /topic?04:57
_editionif it was horizontal, it would be better than win7 :)04:57
akaWolfhello! can you help me? I'm starting my pidgin and can't see him. I'm using Ubuntu trusty x64 and KDE.04:57
ios-7-melim new to using ubuntu plz tell me how to install new program04:58
function9_edition: there is kubuntu04:58
tharkun!super_basic04:58
akaWolfios-7-mel: sudo apt-get install PROGRAMNAME04:58
Beldar_edition, You mean the left panel horizontal?04:58
_editionyes04:58
akaWolfguys!04:58
ios-7-melsudo04:59
Beldar_edition, The left panel can't be moved.04:59
akaWolfwhy I can't see my pidgin window?04:59
_editionwhy?04:59
function9akaWolf: what is pidgin?04:59
toolazyforanamefunction9, a chat client04:59
akaWolffunction9: it's a program...04:59
Beldar_edition, Just part of the design it has an integrated setup04:59
function9oh04:59
_editioni dont get it.05:00
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_editioneven windows lets you have both types...05:00
toolazyforaname_edition, the location of that panel isn't changeable05:00
toolazyforanameit's baked in05:00
_editionwhat about kubuntu?05:00
toolazyforanamewhat about it05:01
akaWolfcan someone said me reasons for application windows doesn't appear in KDE?05:01
function9_edition: if you prefer the windows 7 orientation, kubuntu is ubuntu with KDE05:01
RBX129KHi, I have the Windows 7 ISO burned on my USB, and whenever I boot on my USB, it just takes me back to Ubuntu. Are there any solutions?05:01
BrandonCk booted up with cd. how do i repair my ubuntu install?05:01
_editionsomething similiar to dash menu?05:01
BeldarRBX129K, how did you burn it on the usb?05:02
RBX129KHas anybody ever experienced this problem?05:02
RBX129KWell05:02
RBX129KI used the terminal05:02
RBX129KMy friend told me to type something like05:02
RBX129Kwell05:02
BeldarRBX129K, Note I am using your nick when I address you.05:02
RBX129KIt had my USB location in it, and the ISO05:02
RBX129KSorry.05:02
RBX129KBeldar, I used the Terminal to manually burn the ISO to the USB.05:03
BeldarRBX129K, use this, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/tool-to-create-windows-usb-install.html05:03
nullsign-RBX129K: disable UEFI and enable Legacy Boot/BIOS05:04
nullsign-RBX129K: make sure your USB is in the first in boot order too?05:04
akaWolfcan someone said me reasons for application windows doesn't appear in Ubuntu with KDE?05:04
Beldarnullsign-, THey have a msdos no uefi05:04
RBX129Knullsign-, It's the second last in the boot order.05:04
nullsign-make it first?05:04
toolazyforanameakaWolf, what do you mean by application windows05:04
RBX129Knullsign-, How would I disable UEFI and enable Legacy Boot?05:04
nullsign-they are sometimes settings in your BIOS.05:05
BeldarRBX129K, YOU don;t have uefi I helped you earlier.05:05
akaWolftoolazyforaname: I start my pidgin, and can't see window05:05
bongiceroot no bcoz i have most of the files already. shouldnt take as long to install.05:05
RBX129KBeldar, what is UEFI, anyway?05:05
akaWolftoolazyforaname: I see a terminal output05:05
Beldar!uefi | RBX129K05:05
ubottuRBX129K: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI05:05
toolazyforanamehow are you  starting pidgin?05:05
toolazyforanameoh05:05
akaWolftoolazyforaname: pidgin -d05:05
toolazyforanametry `pidgin &'05:06
RBX129KHmm.05:06
function9_edition: this menu??? http://i.imgur.com/WeuYhv1.png05:06
akaWolftoolazyforaname: it's not an reason..05:06
akaWolftoolazyforaname: already trying05:06
akaWolfed*05:06
function9bbl05:07
bongiceroot no bcoz i have most of the files already. shouldnt take as long to install.05:08
BeldarRBX129K, Does the usb have a bootflag, and what was the command to load the iso to the usb a dd?05:08
RBX129KBeldar, yes it was a dd, and I don't know if it has a bootflag.05:08
akaWolfhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7817940/ -- it's begin of the log...05:08
BeldarRBX129K, Not sure if you can add one but open gparted and right click the usb-manage flags and check the boot.05:10
akaWolfcan someone said me reasons for application windows doesn't appear in Ubuntu with KDE? I can't see my pidgin's window.05:10
RBX129KBeldar, I can't find my USB on Gparted05:11
RBX129KBeldar, Nevermind, found it05:11
BeldarRBX129K, Use the dropdown top right and see of it's there.05:11
RBX129KBeldar, It's there. Where do I go again?05:11
RBX129KBeldar, The manage flags option is disabled.05:13
BeldarRBX129K, click it so the usb shows, then right click the usb, ten choose manage flags than click boot it will than have a boot flag than try booting it again.05:13
akaWolfoh05:13
BeldarRBX129K, I figured as such a dd shows no partition right?05:13
akaWolfok, I will try to ask after..05:13
RBX129KBeldar, Let me find the command I executed again.05:14
BeldarRBX129K, Just use the link I sent you.05:14
RBX129KBeldar, Okay.05:15
Beldar<Beldar> RBX129K, use this, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/tool-to-create-windows-usb-install.html05:15
Beldar<nullsign-> RBX129K: di05:15
Jeffrey_fakaWolf: ICQ has been down for a while today.  Not sure what's going on, but it is up at the moment.05:15
Beldarnullsign-, mistaken post ignore05:16
BeldarRBX129K, This a MS ISO? Where did you get it from?05:16
RBX129KBeldar, http://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w7forums.com%2Fthreads%2Fofficial-windows-7-sp1-iso-image-downloads.12325%2F&redir_token=T6XqEipUKirCS03JOv2TVlkDjx98MTQwNTgzMzQzMUAxNDA1NzQ3MDMx05:17
RBX129Kwhoops05:17
RBX129KBeldar, http://www.w7forums.com/threads/official-windows-7-sp1-iso-image-downloads.12325/05:17
RBX129KI'm using the x64 one.05:17
BeldarRBX129K, THat should work with the link.05:18
RBX129KBeldar, All of the options are disabled, except for "New." Could this be because my USB is unmounted?05:18
akaWolfJeffrey_f: it's not reason :)05:18
BeldarRBX129K, You could try mounting it to see.05:19
RBX129KBeldar, How do I mount it?05:19
BeldarRBX129K, Does the usb show a partition?05:20
RBX129KBeldar, How do I check?05:20
BeldarRBX129K, It would show it in gparted.05:20
Jeffrey_fakaWolf: yea, realized that wasn't the question after I hit enter:-[05:21
RBX129KBeldar, would you like a screenshot?05:21
BeldarRBX129K, NOt really this is a waste of time use the link.05:21
Beldarit works05:21
BeldarRBX129K, The stuff is grayed out because you used dd there is no partition.05:23
RBX129KBeldar, How do I fix that?05:23
BeldarRBX129K, You can't use the link.05:23
RBX129KBeldar, what should I do now?05:24
BeldarRBX129K, I have posted you a link twice with your nick.05:24
RBX129KBeldar, you told me I can't use the link.05:24
BeldarRBX129K, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/tool-to-create-windows-usb-install.html05:24
BeldarRBX129K, I never said that05:25
RBX129K[00:23] <Beldar> RBX129K, You can't use the link.05:25
BeldarRBX129K, It was a mistake typing I said at least 5 other times to use it.05:26
BeldarRBX129K, We are not communicating very well at the least.05:26
RBX129KBeldar, should I go to the link inside that post? I see a graphical way to install it.05:27
BeldarRBX129K, click on the link and follow the instruction, yes a nice gui way of loading the usb.05:28
Jackripthatdoorwho | wc -l or who | wc05:28
gartralis there a hardware-support specific channel for Ubuntu? <,<]05:29
Beldargartral, there is a hardware channel.05:30
gartralBeldar: what is it?05:30
Beldargartral,  ##hardware05:30
OerHeksgartral, depends, do you have a problem with a component, or just general ?05:30
gartralBeldar: yea, that's not hardware-specific..05:31
gartraler.. ubuntu-specific*05:31
RBX129KBeldar, I can't find the link to that graphical installer.05:31
RBX129KBeldar, pardon my stupidity05:31
Beldargartral, It is hardware specific there is no ubuntu hardware channel, and answer OerHeks question05:31
BeldarRBX129K, You have to load the PPA as the instructions say than run a update than install it than open it.05:32
BeldarRBX129K, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:colingille/freshlight than sudo apt-get update than sudo apt-get install winusb05:33
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gartralOerHeks: I have a number of HP Elitebook 2730ps (read one-hundred and ninty a of them), I really need a preseed file that will allow streamlined, forced setup of the finger-print sensor, jog-wheel and screen rotate keys built into them... like.. really badly..05:33
RBX129KBeldar, Should I be concerned of this? E: Unable to locate package winusb05:34
RBX129KBeldar, Everything else loaded fine.05:34
BeldarRBX129K, Do you see my post on what to run?05:35
BeldarRBX129K,HOld on05:35
RBX129KBeldar, Alright.05:35
OerHeksgartral, that is a huge job, preparing a preseed file.05:35
OerHeksgartral, did you test one machine, does all hardware work OOTB ?05:36
BeldarRBX129K, Ah, there is no trusty version, however you can use an earlier version, this ubuntu will be wiped anyway right?05:36
RBX129KBeldar, Yes. Mind linking me?05:36
gartralOerHeks: THANKS! that's a huge help, i'll be studying it to understand it better, NOTE, IMPORTANT: the biometric sensor is an AuthenTec, Inc. AES2810.. it's a little weird..05:37
RBX129KBeldar, I don't trust myself with downloading stuff.05:37
mjaykHay all05:38
gartralRBX129K: i'll be taking you Netizen Card... :P05:38
BeldarRBX129K, Open software & updates go to the second tab and in the ppa's info change it to saucy from trusty, than run a update and do the install command again.05:38
mjaykI have two ubuntu installs but grub fails to detect the ubuntu install partitioned with LVM any help here would be appriciated05:38
gartralmjayk: both on the same HDD?05:39
RBX129KBeldar, I can't locate Software & Updates. Don't kill me, but I'm using Kubuntu.05:39
mjaykno different physical drives gartral05:39
gartralmjayk: ahh... you need to run a grub-update from the newest drive, make sure BOTH are marked bootable from the cd05:40
BeldarRBX129K, Ah than not sure with kubuntu, I have to go take care of a short job right now. Make sure the usb is getting called to boot as of now by making it first read in the bios, and I will be back shortly and have another way if you still need it.05:40
mjaykah ok so after the install of the second "ubuntu" I need to manually update grub ? gartral05:41
BrandonCso booted from cd, how do i repair my instalation?05:41
BeldarRBX129K, It may be that the usb works but is just not being called first at powering in is all.05:41
gartralmjayk: that *SHOULD* fix it, unleass your running luks (full disk encryption) on both, yes05:41
mjaykah im running full disk encryption on the LVM install gartral05:42
gartralmjayk: is the LVM on the newer encrytoin or the old one?05:42
mjaykold gartral05:42
gartralderp.. on the new drive*05:42
mjaykgartral: LVM is encrypted on the old drive05:43
gartralmjayk: eww... um.. good luck? i'm sorry, i've never gotten that working05:43
mjaykgartral: no worries thanks for your help :) im just trying to learn so no data loss even if i have to nuke and pave05:43
OerHeksgartral, are yousure it is 2730ps ? all i find is 2730p05:43
gartralOerHeks: 2730p, i added the 's' to denote I was working with multiple, you are correct05:44
OerHeksoke05:44
gartralOerHeks: these are really nice tablet-convertables with some awesome features..05:45
OerHeksgartral, one help with fingerprint is this ppa, https://launchpad.net/~fingerprint/+archive/ubuntu/fingerprint-gui with a table with supported devices05:45
gartralOerHeks: I found that.. running it on my personal unit but I have NO IDEA how to integrate a PPA in a preseed.. and boss-girl wants it to come up automatically on first boot for each unit, first boot..05:47
gartralOerHeks: basically.. what I need is the ability to load a single image and be back to a fully working system within about 2 hours due to loss/theft/damage/whatever these morons due to their laptops05:48
OerHeksgartral, i understand, fingerreader should work on login. also there is an oem install possible, so re-install should be possible, even offline.05:50
OerHeksgartral, now i am looking for earlier preseed attempts05:50
RBX129KWhenever I attempt to mount my USB, this message occurs05:50
RBX129K"mount: block device /dev/sdb is write-protected, mounting read-only"05:50
RBX129KDoes anybody mind helping me out?05:51
gartralOerHeks: I've ran into a "first login" failure if the home is encrypted.. and a stipulation is full drive encryption including encrypted home..05:51
gartralOerHeks: I've TOLD her, multiple times that it's over-kill.. but do bosses listen? no.. not unless it sounds good05:52
BrandonCdo boot to cd to fix my instalation or choose in boot menu recovery?05:53
gartralOerHeks: may I query you?05:54
circ-user-5wiJL@BrandonC this is depending on what's broken. Could you discribe your prblem in detail, plz05:55
BrandonCAlert! /dev/disk/by-uuid/d3386ad5-f2e9... does not exist, dropping to a shell05:55
BrandonCafter i select ubuntu from boot menu05:55
circ-user-5wiJLwhat did you do before this was happen?05:56
BrandonCinstalled ubuntu05:56
gartralBrandonC: did you go through the automated installer or select "Something else"?05:57
circ-user-5wiJLWell. so ubuntu had not locatted your hard disc or in other words the partition you where choosing.05:57
BrandonCbooted cd, selected install, split my hard drive space to leave my win 7 , it finished, restarted, ejected cd and i got that message05:58
circ-user-5wiJLthe simplest thing you can do is Restart the installation delete the ubuntu partition restart it again and let the installler take the rest of free space on your hd05:58
BrandonCi dont want it to use the rest of the unused space05:59
BrandonCi want to half it05:59
gartralBrandonC: you have a windows install you want to keep?05:59
BrandonCya05:59
gartralBrandonC: did you choose "install Ubuntu beside windows"?05:59
BrandonCya, it gave me slider to choose how much hard drive space to allocate06:00
BrandonCleft it said windows, right it said ubuntu06:00
gartralBrandonC: did you do a defrag/backup of everything you cared about, like the installer warned you to do?06:00
BrandonCits a freshly installed win 706:01
BrandonCso no06:01
Daisyab__hi. i cant access my applications through my dashboard on ubuntu 12.04.  I tried this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2067256 but still no luck.  Anyone have any ideas?06:01
gartralBrandonC: alright, so it's a basic, dual-boot, nothing you care about, but you didn't boot windows and defrag first?06:02
BrandonCfirst?06:02
BrandonCbefore i installed ubuntu?06:02
gartralBrandonC: yes, first06:02
BrandonCno06:03
gartralBrandonC: there's your issue, your going to have to start fresh, reinstall windows, defrag, then reinstall ubuntu..06:03
RBX129KCan I install Windows 7 over DVD+R with Kubuntu?06:04
RBX129KIs it possible?06:04
gartralRBX129K: kinda.. it06:04
gartralRBX129K: it's possible, but not easy.. \06:05
RBX129Kgartral: Would you mind helping me?06:05
gartralRBX129K: not that I'm trying to sell my services here, but you're going to need to make it a financially viable option... I have nearly 200 computers I need to set up..06:06
gartralRBX129K: read; Pay me, or No.06:06
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gartralOerHeks: any progress? I do need sleep tonight, and it's 2AM06:08
BrandonCcan i use the existing partitions? id kinda like to just install ubuntu right now so i can use it, and reinstall windows later06:10
OerHeksgartral, i think you better go on tomorrow, i am not that experienced with preseeding, with 3th party files and was looking in LVM/crypto ,, never done that before06:10
gartralBrandonC: that, as far as i know, has never been a real option06:10
OerHeksit takes a lot of testing06:11
NickDVppldevs06:11
NickDVhey guys06:11
gartralBrandonC: it's always been "Windows first, then linux"06:11
gartralOerHeks: can i pm youn my email addy?06:12
OerHeksgartral, sure, but i will be here tomorrow too06:12
MavKenany eta of netbeans 8.0 being added to repo?  currently has an old version06:13
gartralOerHeks: there's no garuntees i'll be here..06:13
bekksMavKen: No betas will be added at all. And new releases will be added only for security reasons, etc.06:14
OerHeksgartral, we'll see06:14
MavKenlots of new features though06:15
BrandonCis the reason for windows then ubuntu so the boot sequence lets me select?06:15
BrandonCand if i start with two partitions, will i still hve to debug my windows partition before ubuntu?06:16
MavKenhmm... why keep such an old version though?  im new to ubuntu, thought of it as leading the pack06:16
bekksMavKen: because betas will not be added to the repos, and new versions will be added for security reasons only. Not for shiny new features.06:16
OerHeksMavKen, maybe this page is any help > http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/03/install-netbeans-ide-8-0-in-ubuntu-14-0413-1012-04/06:17
MavKenive already installed it... but expected to see latest versions in software center06:18
varunendraBrandonC, installing windows first then ubuntu makes things easier, but it is not necessary, you can do it other way round, just a few steps more would be needed, and the live media you installed ubuntu from06:18
svetlanaHi all. I inserted a writable DVD, but brasero's "burn an image" dialog says that no disk is available.06:18
mjayksvetlana: is it the correct type of dvd for the burner ?06:18
svetlanamjayk: how do I know?06:19
mjaykItll say on the front of ur dvd player or somewhere + or - or +-06:20
BrandonCwait what varunendra, what  did you mean by 'and the live media'? you just mean ill need the cd again after i install ubuntu then windows?06:22
mjaykBrandonC: yes because you need to boot back from the ubuntu cd or dvd after you install both os's06:23
mjaykBrandonC: if you install ubuntu first06:23
varunendraBrandonC, again, yes - for the usual fix, but that is not necessary either. You can also use some windows boot loader to boot Ubuntu like - EasyBCD06:23
BrandonClike ill need the ubuntu dvd everytime, or just once to fix booting ?06:24
mjaykjust once BrandonC06:24
varunendraBrandonC, just once to fix the boot.06:24
BrandonCk06:24
BrandonCto fix, i boot to live ubuntu with cd and use that to fix, or there is a tool as i boot from cd to fix boot?06:25
svetlanamjayk, how do I find my "dvd player"?06:25
varunendraBrandonC, the windows installer overwrites the Ubuntu boot loader, and itself doesn't support booting Ubuntu. That's why you need to install the Ubuntu boot loader (GRUB2) again if you install windows later.06:25
BrandonCoky ya06:25
zubir^^06:25
BrandonCive done that before06:25
mjayksvetlana: i dont know somewhere in your pc ?06:25
zubirinstall VLC06:26
varunendraBrandonC, there is just a couple of commands you need to run from the live cd to reinstall grub06:26
svetlanamjayk: I don't know either... do you mean a hardware or software thing? I already inserted an empty writable DVD into my computer.06:26
zubirsvetlana : what do you want to do with the dvd?06:27
mjayksvetlana: i asked if it was the correct type of dvd.06:27
svetlanamjayk: how do I find out?06:27
svetlanazubir: write a xubuntu iso onto it06:27
zubirhere's an easy way to do it06:28
svetlanaI don't know whether this computer supports reading (or writing) dvd; means to determine that could be handy.06:29
svetlanazubir: yes?06:29
zubirwait, what OS are you on?06:29
varunendrasvetlana, I may be misleading you here, but I know that there are some bugs with brasero that sometimes do weird things. I prefer k3b for cd/dvd burner which is a lot better than brasero. But again, consider it just a random suggestion - may not be related to the solution you are currently seeking.06:29
zubirIf on Windows, use Imgburn06:30
zubirif on Linux, the dd utility is the way to go06:30
bekkszubir: dd for burning cd/dvd is the most painful way to go. Personally I am using k3b since ages and never had issues, which werent obvious, like defective media, etc.06:31
Beldaryeah dd is one wa to go, and "is the way to go" is an opinion06:32
BrandonCyay now my hard drive is clicking06:33
zubirI understand, I just find it very straightforward and speedy compared to GUI utilities once you know what to do06:33
bekkszubir: The burning speed has nothing to do with the GUI. Technically, thats not possible ;)06:33
varunendraBrandonC, yay indeed! Congratulations in advance for a new hard disk :D06:33
Beldarzubir, Just use a in my opinion, we have people who use this channel who know no better at times. ;)06:34
zubirI understand, I'm new at giving advice here06:34
zubirdd has always worked well for me when burning iso files, imgburn for windows is the next best thing06:35
varunendrasvetlana, to find the capabilities of your optical drive, maybe "sudo lshw -C disk" could help. Its output tells you the exact model name as well as a summary of capabilities of the drive.06:35
zubirin my opinion ;)06:35
BrandonCnah i just put the side of case back on and i cant hear it06:35
svetlanavarunendra: I'm installing it.06:36
svetlanazubir: I likely lack understanding how to use dd.06:36
varunendraBrandonC, then I take back the congrats.. ;)06:36
zubirI'm just gonna write out my process of writing isos to disk06:36
svetlanacapabilities: audio cd-r cd-rw dvd dvd-r dvd-ram06:37
svetlanahmm.06:37
varunendrasvetlana, and model name?06:37
svetlanait can read dvd, I understand. can it write? "-ram"?06:37
Beldarzubir, We see on occasion people wiping there stuff with dd used incorrectly is all on occasion. I'm an experienced user I never use it.06:37
bekkssvetlana: Did you ensure that the inserted media is a dvd-r at least?06:37
svetlanaand it also says "configuration: status=nodisc", hm.06:37
svetlanavarunendra, of the cd/dvd drive? dunno. it's a fujitsu s7210 laptop.06:38
bekkssvetlana: Yes, it can write, since it supports dvd-r and dvd-ram06:38
varunendrasvetlana, I an not sure about it. It doesn't say it can "Write" those. Maybe can just read?06:38
varunendrasvetlana, but we can look up by its model name to confirm06:39
zubirBeldar: I know, it's easy to go horribly wrong with dd if not careful06:39
BrandonCso can i use the existing partitions to install ubuntu then windows?06:39
varunendrasvetlana, for example, the output for mine clearly says - "description: DVD-RAM writer"06:39
svetlanamine does too.06:40
reisioBrandonC: probably, if you don't mind nuking them06:40
varunendraBrandonC, if you insist, yes. Just remember the extra steps to get Ubuntu back after that :)06:40
varunendrasvetlana, no more doubts then :)06:40
BrandonCill have enought mana in a few seconds to cast my nuke06:40
svetlanahttp://dpaste.com/27W3Q4F06:40
BrandonCsorry been playing everquest1 last few days06:41
reisioha06:41
svetlanathe other non-brasero tool is still downloading packages so that it can install.06:41
varunendragoing afk..06:41
BeldarBrandonC, You can boot ubuntu with grub06:41
Beldarthe ubuntu iso06:41
BrandonCya i got that part, was more worried about using my broken partitions06:41
BrandonCwell not broken partitions but brokedn insall on partitions06:42
BrandonCbut i figure partition is partition06:42
zubirlike I just run isoinfo on the iso to get the block size and block count06:43
zubirthen do "sudo dd if=niceimage.iso of=/dev/cdrom bs=2048 count=<whatever the count is>"06:43
zubirand done06:43
bekkszubir: the exact count is irrelevant, since dd will stop at the end of the file.06:44
zubirbekks: I'm aware, but I've gotten into the habit because if you rip a disk without using the exact block size, you don't end up with an exact copy06:45
zubirso I've just gotten into the habit of copying exactly what needs to be copied06:46
zubirvia block count06:46
zubirbut yeah, if you just do "dd if=myiso.iso of=/dev/cdrom", your disk will most likely be perfectly fine06:49
zubirbut run md5sum on the iso and the disk and see if they're the same06:49
zubiror rather, check a disk made with exact count against one that stopped when dd reached the end06:52
helmut_hi06:54
zubiryo06:55
reisiohiyo06:55
super_how do i find out which host /sys/class/host? I am?06:56
reisiosuper_: hrmm?06:56
bekkssuper_: What are you actually trying to do?06:57
super_i got a hotplug SATA hard drive it is formatted in ext4 the system doesn't show that it is plug in06:57
zubirdid you mount it?06:58
super_the device is not detected so I can't mount06:59
zubirdoes it show up after running "sudo fdisk -l"?07:00
bekkssuper_: Do you have a hotplug capable SATA controller as well?07:00
svetlanak3b also complains that no disk is inserted.07:01
super_echo "- - -" > /sys/class/scsi_host/host0/scan07:01
super_I try to find out how do I know that I'm host0?07:01
super_thats the only way for me to get my hard to show up is running that echo07:01
bekkssvetlana: Maybe the inserted media is just broken?07:01
bekkssuper_: Congratulations, you do not have a hotplug capable controller then.07:02
svetlanait is a new disk. I think driver issue probably.07:02
super_bekks I have hotplug tray07:02
bekkssvetlana: Even new disks may be broken.07:02
super_so yes it is hotplug SATA is hotplug07:02
svetlanayes, I know, I may need to try on another computer07:02
bekkssuper_: a tray is not a controller.07:02
bekkssuper_: And NO, the controller needs to be hotplug capable, which it obviously isnt.07:03
Ali_M_AhmedPeace brothers and sisters. Question: is it possible to install Linux in/on ZFS file-system ?07:03
super_with windows I just plug in and it just show up no need to type in long command line07:03
bekksAli_M_Ahmed: Yes.07:03
super_muslim are not peaceful people07:03
super_they hate the jews07:03
bekkssuper_: Windows is irrelevant at that point.07:03
OerHeks!coc | super_07:04
ubottusuper_: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct is the document that spells out etiquette in the Ubuntu community | http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct | For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct | Watch http://static.screencasts.ubuntu.com/videos/2010/12/22/004-SigningCoC.ogv07:04
Ali_M_Ahmedsuper: If that Muslim is atheist like my self then he does not care about Jews or any relgions :D07:04
zubir....07:05
BeldarAli_M_Ahmed, That is not allowed here.07:05
super_the kuran also said you can lie to infidel07:05
bekks!ot | super_07:05
ubottusuper_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!07:05
toolazyforanamesuper_, take it elsewhere07:05
OerHekslets stop this flamewar now.07:05
Ali_M_Ahmedbekks: can you please tell me how-to ? BTW... why i don't see ZFS file-system when i try to install Ubuntu ?07:08
bekksAli_M_Ahmed: Because it isnt supported by the installer.07:08
bazhanghttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS Ali_M_Ahmed07:08
bekksAli_M_Ahmed: you would have to install it completely manually, and you need to be _very_ careful when upgrading modules (from the needed 3rd party repo) or the kernel.07:09
bekksAli_M_Ahmed: I suggest not installing Ubuntu on ZFS, but using ZFS for your data only.07:10
toolazyforaname^ I second this07:10
reisioI suggest not using CDDL software if you can help it07:11
reisio:)07:11
reisioor Oracle software, for that matter :p07:12
bekksthats why ZFS on linux is not "owned" and licensed by Oracle ;)07:12
super_Unable to access “96 GB Volume”07:13
FindegilAnyone familiar with SSL Certificates that could lend a hand for a few min? I feel like i’ve read half of the internet07:13
toolazyforanamespoken like a person who has had to deal with oracle database07:13
super_Error mounting /dev/dm-3 at /media/super/481c486e-c1fd-4801-b9ed-a91e088a33ec: Command-line `mount -t "ext4" -o07:13
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reisiobekks: sure it isn't07:14
Ali_M_AhmedOkay dear brother @bekks. So, I can't install Ubuntu on ZFS from installer becouse it is not supported by default ? Can I ask for the reason ?07:14
toolazyforanameAli_M_Ahmed, why it's not supported by the installer?07:16
Ali_M_AhmedYes brother <toolazyforaname>07:17
toolazyforanameProbably because compared to other FS out there like ext 2-4, ZFS isn't common and therefor not worth the dev/support time07:18
toolazyforanameAli_M_Ahmed,  Do you have the option to resize your zfs part, and create a small ext2 boot partition for ubuntu to run on?07:20
walroossudo ssh-keygen -f "/home/aswin/.ssh/known_hosts" -R 10.42.0.2007:22
walroosnot working .. shooting up errors ^^07:22
Ali_M_Ahmed@toolazyforaname Ohh, Okay now i know :D Thanks. i heard BSD people use it as their default.  |  I actually do not have ZFS currently in my HDD. I was just asking :D07:22
zubirwhat kind of errors?07:22
zubir@walroos07:22
walrooszubir, /home/aswin/.ssh/known_hosts is not a valid known_hosts file.07:22
walroosshould i delete the who .ssh directory?07:23
toolazyforanameAli_M_Ahmed, ah cool cool. well again nothing is stopping you from making a zfs data partition and letting ubuntus boot partition reside on ext207:23
zubirnot the whole ssh directory, maybe just empty the known_hosts file07:23
zubirstart it fresh07:23
walrooszubir, okie :)07:24
walroosthnks07:24
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Ali_M_AhmedI deeply apologize brother @toolazyforaname for annoying you with my too much questions, But please allow me to ask you last question... Is it possible to convert my root partition(EXT4) to ZFS file-system without causing any damage to me operating system ?07:27
xopa big time noob here but what is the consequence of logical volume misalignment on 512b hdd??07:28
cfhowlettAli_M_Ahmed if the OS doesn't support the file system, conversion is likely to fix it.07:28
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lias81hi there07:29
lias81is anyone here?07:29
function9hi07:30
lias81hi my friend07:30
cfhowlettlias81 ask your ubuntu question07:30
toolazyforanameAli_M_Ahmed, youll loose all your data on the zfs partition, but other than that, you should be a-ok07:30
toolazyforanames/zfs/ext407:31
xopSorry to repeat myself, but here goes: what is the consequence of logical volume misalignment on 512b hdd?07:31
lias81i think i destroyed my pc. I tried to upgraded my ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04, and when i try to login i get an error failed to start session. i tried several things to do, but i didnt manage it. any ideas?07:32
cfhowlettlias81 what method did you use to upgrade?  Is ubuntu the on OS?07:32
toolazyforanamelias81, you'll have to be a lot more specific07:32
cfhowlett"ONLY OS"?07:32
cfhowlettlias81 also - highly unlikely you "destroyed" anything07:32
lias81no, i have dual machine (dell laptop) with windows 7 and ubuntu.07:33
cfhowlettlias81 OK  - HOW did you do this upgrade?07:33
lias81i follow these steps http://askubuntu.com/questions/443556/upgrading-12-04-to-14-04-beta07:35
cfhowlettlias81 14.04 "beta" ???07:35
lias81it wasnt a beta version\07:36
lias81is there any chance to avoid format and save my pc?07:36
cfhowlettlias81 OK - moving on to fixing ... download the 14.04 ISO.  VERIFY the ISO.  make a USB.  VERIFY the USB.  reinstall ubuntu.07:37
toolazyforanamelias81, almost certainly. can you provide exact error and log output?07:37
GeorgeZHello there Can i Ask a question related to ubuntu with laptops? thank you07:37
Ali_M_Ahmed@toolazyforaname, @cfhowlett Deeply thankful guys. I ask my lord(Stephin Hawking) to give you both happiness in your life's for helping me here.   =)07:38
lias81toolazyforaname: if you give me some instructions07:38
cfhowlettGeorgeZ ask07:38
cfhowlettAli_M_Ahmed happy2help07:38
Ali_M_Ahmedthanks. Bye all :D07:38
lias81cfhowlett: if i do this, i will loose everything in ubuntu partion?07:38
GeorgeZI installed ubuntu in my laptop. problem is boot time and OS is really slow07:38
GeorgeZi search a while in net07:38
cfhowlettlias81 do you have a dedicated /home partition?07:38
toolazyforanamelias81, well you said something failed. What was reported on the failure?07:38
cfhowlettlias81 if not, then yes, it will wipe your /home.07:39
GeorgeZsome people say that changing controler to compatibility mode in bios helps but my bios dont have that option07:39
cfhowlett!deatils|GeorgeZ07:39
cfhowlett!details07:39
ubottuPlease elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)07:39
GeorgeZDetails of laptop you mean?07:39
lias81cfhowlett: i know.. ffffff07:39
cfhowlettGeorgeZ hardware, what you're trying to do, what DID you do?07:40
GeorgeZClear Installation of Ubuntu 64 bit with usb in laptop bios boot setting in legacy mode. Laptop specs i3 4 gb ram07:41
GeorgeZand the boot up and os is really slow07:41
cfhowlettGeorgeZ so installed completely and successfully?07:41
GeorgeZYes07:41
lias81toolazyforaname:  when i open my pc, in the login screen - i am typing my password and i cant login. the msg is failed to start session"  same problem when i am trying to login as a guest. moreover i cant connect to wifi07:41
cfhowlettGeorgeZ and "slow" = ???07:42
toolazyforanamelias81, so to be clear, you  are seeing the log-in screen07:42
lias81toolazyforaname: yes my friend. but i cant do anything .07:43
toolazyforanameok07:43
toolazyforanamelias81, after having it fail once, press ctrl + alt + f107:43
[gnubie]i am on mac os x mavericks and i ssh -X to an ubuntu 14.04 server where i want to run startx to display it on my mac. the cli looks good but i don’t see the dispaly of my startx. any idea what i missed here? thanks.07:43
toolazyforanameand type07:43
lias81toolazyforaname: i opened a temrinal by pressing alt ctrl and f107:44
toolazyforanametail /var/log/Xorg<tab complete>07:44
toolazyforanamedo you  see any error messages?07:44
BrandonCso im reinstalling ubuntu.. i get choice, reinstall ubuntu, erace ubuntu and reinsall, and erase everything and reinstall.. problem is the install now button is greyed out.. no mater what i select07:45
toolazyforanamesame goes for /var/log/xdm.log and /var/log/gdm/*.log07:46
lias81toolazyforaname: yes my friend. but i cant do anything . '/var/log/xorg for reading, n such file or directory07:46
bauslias81 can you help me install ubuntu?07:47
mjayklias81: you need to capitalise the X07:47
toolazyforanamelias81, well i dont know the exact file name . . . tab complete should resolve the name though07:47
lias81same with cpital X07:47
Beldarbaus, State your issue to the channel don;t just randomly address others.07:48
nearsthello everyone07:48
lias81same error07:48
[gnubie]toolazyforaname: no error so far07:48
bausBeldar can you help me install ubuntu?07:48
Beldarbaus, Tell the channel you problem.07:49
varunendraBrandonC, can you show us the output of "sudo parted -l" ? Paste it into pastebin and post its link here.07:49
toolazyforanamelias81, try `less ~/.xsession-errors07:49
toolazyforanamelias81, try `less ~/.xsession-errors' *07:49
bausBeldar i don't know how to install ubuntu yet, can you walk me through it please?07:49
ikonia!install | baus07:49
ubottubaus: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate07:49
bausno i don't want to install baus, i want to installl ubuntu Beldar07:49
ikoniabaus: read the documentation ubottu has just given you07:50
* cfhowlett beginning to suspect ...07:50
ikoniabaus: that will explain how to install ubuntu07:50
PowerKilleri forgot my ubuntu password can i restore it?07:50
cfhowlett!password | PowerKiller07:50
ubottuPowerKiller: Forgot your password? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords07:50
bausokay thanks ikonia and Beldar07:50
ikoniabaus: if you have any questions about that, just ask07:50
nearsthiya ikonia cfhowlett07:50
PowerKilleroh thanks07:50
cfhowlettnearst greetings07:50
lias81toolazyforaname:  i typed " 'less ~/.xsession-errors' and i got that no such file or directory07:51
toolazyforanamelias81, can you tell me what lives in /var/log/07:51
lias81toolazyforaname:  pls how to do this?07:54
toolazyforaname`ls -a /var/log/'07:54
BrandonCwhy is my install button grey ?07:54
cfhowlettBrandonC did you verify the ISO and the USB?07:55
BrandonCi just did installyesterday07:55
BrandonCim reinstalling07:55
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BrandonCso no but i think it works07:56
[gnubie]the last 2 lines of my ~/.xsession-errors contains:07:56
[gnubie]Openbox-Message: Couldn't set locale from environment.07:56
[gnubie]Fontconfig warning: ignoring utf-8: not a valid region tag07:56
cfhowlettBrandonC garbage in, garbage out.  verification takes 2 minutes but if you don't have that kind of time to trouble shoot ... good luck07:56
[gnubie]anyone?07:57
BrandonCdude, dont try to help then be a pric07:57
BrandonCim googling how to verify07:57
cfhowlett!md5sum | BrandonC07:57
ubottuBrandonC: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows07:57
lias81toolazyforaname:  nothing appears ,07:57
toolazyforanametype exactly what you are entering, because that is not possible07:58
lias81toolazyforaname: `ls [space] -a [space] /var/log'07:59
toolazyforanamedont use ` and ' . i use those to specify what is a terminal cmd and what isnt07:59
lias81with quotes ` and '07:59
lias81ok07:59
tapouti have a lorex security system from costco, and they only supply pc/mac/android versions.  Shouldn't I be able to just use Wine and use the PC version to do the remote viewing of the cameras ?08:01
lias81toolazyforaname:  i did it. i have too many results. i am looking for  something ?08:02
cfhowlett!wine | tapout check the wine DB to see if your hardware is supported.08:03
ubottutapout check the wine DB to see if your hardware is supported.: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu08:03
toolazyforanameyou are looking for soemthing like xorg.log08:03
cfhowletttapout you might also consider virtualbox + windows + lorex software08:03
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lias81toolazyforaname:  i have Xorg.o.log  and Xorg.0.log.old and Xorg.1.log and Xorg.1.log.old08:05
tapoutthank you!08:06
akaWolfcan someone said me reasons for application's window doesn't appear in Ubuntu with KDE? I can't see my pidgin's window.08:06
toolazyforanameok can you pastey Xorg.0.log and Xorg.1.log and link me to it?08:06
BrandonCso to run the md5sum i need to boot the live cd and use terminal?08:07
nearstBrandonC, md5sum --help08:08
cfhowlettBrandonC nope.  FIRST you verify the ISO you downloaded.  if that's good, THEN you verify your USB/CD08:08
BrandonCwhy not just my dvd?08:09
nearstfor security concern, im not always use that too08:10
toolazyforanameBrandonC: they verify different things08:10
BrandonCso if the dvd verifies ok, there may be somthing wrong with the dvd that testing the iso would find?08:10
cfhowlettBrandonC your downloaded ISO is the source for the DVD.  If the ISO is funky, DVD is funky.  If the ISO is good, but the DVD is funky, DVD is funky.08:10
nearstbut make it has a habit is a good things08:10
lias81toolazyforaname:  i have to type /var/log/Xorg ??08:10
BrandonCso dvd can be good but iso was bad?08:11
cfhowlettBrandonC yes!!!!08:11
cfhowlettBrandonC DVD was BURNED good, but bad source ISO = bad OS.08:11
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toolazyforanameBrandonC: verifying a dvd just shows that whatever you wanted to copy, was done correctly from the original. You original could be incorrect though08:12
BrandonCoh im only verifying that the dvd was burned correctly, im not comparing it to the hash of the iso08:13
toolazyforanamelias81: do you have a way to copy and paste information to pastebin? (is this on a vm, or a physical machine?)08:13
BrandonCcause space at end of dvd changes the hash08:13
cfhowlettBrandonC which is why I specifically advised you to 1. verify the ISO THEN 2. verify the DVD.08:13
BrandonCya i dont know why i ask questions, i should just take what i get and not try to learn why08:14
toolazyforanameBrandonC: want some tea with that tart of yours08:14
lias81it is a physucal maschine, i cant somehow to send you a photo with results. if this is a such waste of time for you, i will try to find out an other  solution :-)08:14
cfhowlettBrandonC well you DID read the md5sum wiki - which explained it all , right? :)08:15
nearstBrandonC, learn is a good things :)08:15
toolazyforanamelias81: yeah a pic wouldnt be that helpful.08:15
BrandonCya i read it and was confirming i understood it right08:15
toolazyforanamelias81: so you ran something like full-system-upgrade and now you can't log in?08:15
nearstlias81, what problem08:16
lias81toolazyforaname: ok  :-) thank you for your time.08:16
lias81nearst:  i upgrq08:16
lias81nearst:  i upgrade ubuntu and i cant login08:17
nearstlias81, gui ?08:17
lias81nearst:  sorry?08:17
nearstlias81, i mean. any display manager ? or in terminal F1 ?08:18
lias81toolazyforaname: do you think that i cant founfd a solution or it is impossible?08:18
peterwdsi want to disable compiz or whatever does the effects on my computer because it is too slow. how to?08:18
toolazyforanamelias81: its def not impossible, but debugging will be challenging without seeing error logs08:18
lias81nearst:  i only manage to open a temrinal with ctr alt and f108:18
toolazyforanamelias81: are you still in your terminal? can you log in from there?08:19
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peterwds:(08:19
lias81toolazyforaname: i can login from terminal. but nothing happens next. the maschine doesnt open. I mean i only see the terminal nothings more08:20
nearstpeterwds, assume u got metacity install, just metacity --replace &08:20
cfhowlett!compiz | peterwds08:20
ubottupeterwds: Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz08:20
toolazyforanamelias81: i understand. do me a favor tell me what this says uname -r08:20
nearstlias81, did u try to install gdm ? default was lightdm08:20
lias813.13.0-32-generc08:21
lias81nearst:  i think that I did it08:22
lias81toolazyforaname: 3.13.0-32-generic08:22
FuzzyWhirlpoolKernel version 32 is out. I guess I'm missing some updates, still using version 30.08:24
toolazyforanamelias81: `which gdm'08:24
nearstlias81, try dpkg-reconfigure gdm08:25
toolazyforanamelias81: ^08:25
nearsti think i got this problem before. but after install gdm and make it at default. just work again.08:26
lias81nearst: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure must be run as root08:26
toolazyforanamesudo !!08:26
nearstlias81, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm08:26
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lias81nearst: package gdm is not install and no information is available08:29
souriHi, does anyone here know about ALS (ambient light sensor) support for vaio laptops in Ubuntu? With the "sony-laptop" kernel module, I do not get automatic dimming on low lit conditions. I've tried checking out the Embedded Controller RAM dump using ectool, and I can see the values at a particular address changing08:29
souriBut I do not know how to change the sony-laptop kernel module source to listen to that event and make changes to the backlight08:29
toolazyforanamelias81: sudo apt-get install gdm08:30
souriAny help is appreciated. I see ALS support in the driver source, but still it's not happening and I can't figure out why08:30
lias81toolazyforaname: i did it many times . but i get errors. I have a list with unmet dependencies, it suggests to try 'apt-geg -f install'08:32
nearstsouri, u mean this one ? https://code.google.com/p/vaio-f11-linux/wiki/AutoDimmingBacklightDaemon08:33
toolazyforanamelias81: i would go for it08:34
toolazyforanamesudo apt-get -f install gdm08:34
nearstlias81, do-upgrade release or dist-upgrade ?08:35
sourinearst, no it's here: https://gitorious.org/sony-laptop-zseries08:35
lias81toolazyforaname: and i get as an error couldnt lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock08:35
sourinearst: and i'm looking at the code here: https://github.com/absorb-it/sony-laptop-zseries .  Someone made a few changes to make the previous code compile on the newer kernel, so I can build this easily08:36
nearstlias81, if u do-release-upgrade, probably deficiency from 3rd party package08:36
lias81nearst: i have to type do-upgrade?08:36
toolazyforanamehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1859887 may want to try sudo apt-get install lightdm-gtk-greeter08:37
nearstlias81, u said after upgrade. which upgrade u mean :D08:37
nearstafk games08:38
varunendralias81, the 'couldn't lock...' error means either you have another package manager open (synaptic or software center?) or the lock file has stuck for some reason.08:39
toolazyforanamevarunendra: i would imagine it's locked bc the manger is in use08:39
varunendratoolazyforaname, if the program/process that threw that error is the only one trying to get the lock, it won't complain at all :)08:40
toolazyforanamevarunendra: it's not though08:40
Mountain_Rhi guys I am going crazy with the monitor, I have uninstalled it and deactivated power manager but after 1 minute or less of inactivity my monitor always switch off. what is it? damn08:40
lias81nearst: i did something wrong? is something that i can do to save my pc08:41
varunendralias81, if you can confirm that no more than one package manager is open/running in terminal, you can solve the 'lock' error by simply deleting that file. It is completely safe.08:41
Mountain_Rscreensaver is unistalled too08:41
toolazyforanamelias81: can you run these two commands: sudo apt-get update08:42
toolazyforanamesudo apt-get upgrade08:42
lias81varunendra: only one terminal is opened08:42
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varunendralias81, then if the commands toolazyforaname suggested above give you the "couldn't lock..." error - we need to delete the lock file08:43
lias81toolazyforaname: too many errors. nothing changed08:43
nearstlias81, delete lock file and try sudo apt-get update again.08:44
lias81@nea08:44
RahulANany one here using fortran?08:44
lias81nearst:  could you pls give me the command?08:44
RahulANI want to learn any recommendation?08:44
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varunendralias81, "sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock"08:44
varunendralias81, have you given us the pastebin link of the errors you get?08:45
lias81varunendra: thanks08:45
varunendralias81, only if that helps solving the issue :)08:46
nearstlias81, sudo killall apt-get or sudo fuser -cuk /var/lib/dpkg/lock; sudo rm -f /var/lib/dpkg/lock08:46
nearsttry again install gdm, restart service and hope all good :)08:47
lias81varunendra: i know, but the only way to share something is with photo. it is a different machine and i have no other option08:47
varunendralias81, no working internet connection either?08:48
lias81varunendra: doesnt work08:49
varunendralias81, the net or the 'lock' trick?08:49
nearstlias81, im getting confuse. hehe.08:50
lias81nearst: i did it, got no errors08:50
* varunendra too08:50
nearstif too techie, backup data and fresh install. :)08:50
* lias81 is complete lost, i want to burn my machine08:50
* varunendra reaches out to write out his address to lias81 08:50
varunendralias81, I haven't followed your messages from beginning, so sorry if I'm asking silly questions. :)08:51
* lias81 thanks a lot toolazyforaname , nearst and varunendra and offers fire to burn my pc =)08:51
Mountain_Rcan someone help me with the screensaver?08:51
lias81varunendra: i asked the most silly questions here. dont worry08:52
toolazyforanamelias81: did you get it???08:52
varunendralias81, if you don't have too many programs or too much customization on the existing installation, then a fresh install is actually not a bad idea. Takes 15-20 minutes + the time to do the customization/program installation again.08:53
lias81toolazyforaname: nothings change :-( i thing i will burn a dvd and i will install again the 14.04 (or 12.04 I am not sure yet) .08:53
nearstavoid unity, hehehehe08:54
toolazyforanamelias81: if thats the route you wanna take, maybe try booting from a live disk, mount the partition on your machine, and try and save anything you need08:54
toolazyforanamenearst: you said it08:54
lias81varunendra: i have too many things on it. That's why i am trying to avoid installing again a new version. but i think unfortunatelly is the only solution08:54
toolazyforanamelias81: you can save the info from a live cd08:55
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lias81toolazyforaname:  dont know yet. i ll try it08:55
varunendralias81, can you please state the problem (current status) in detail again?08:55
nearstlias81, what is actual problem ? no login screen ?08:56
Mountain_Rhello there is someone for me08:56
varunendraMountain_R, possibly, but only when you state your problem first :)08:57
lias81in login screen , when i am trying to login weather as user or as a guest, i got an error msg " failed to start session"08:57
nearstlias81, u try to restart lightdm service ? sudo service lightdm restart, or sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm08:57
lias81nearst: i did it , nothings happened.08:57
nearstoh. display manager08:57
lias81and moreover i cant connet to wifi08:58
akaWolftoolazyforaname: sec...08:58
varunendralias81, is the wifi problem pre-existing?08:58
toolazyforanameakaWolf: ?08:58
lias81varunendra: nop08:58
nearstlias81, sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-session08:59
Mountain_Rvarunendra,  I have done :) yet, i copy it again: I am going crazy with the monitor, I have uninstalled it and deactivated power manager but after 1 minute or less of inactivity my monitor always switch off. what is it?08:59
varunendranearst, keep in mind that lias81 can't connect to internet currently.08:59
nearstowh08:59
nearstwell. try with dpkg-reconfigure -a :)09:00
varunendraMountain_R, I may not be able to help with that, but which version of ubuntu are you using, and what all have you tried so far?09:00
lias81nearst: it is hopeless , fffffff i think i completely destroyed my machine. i got as results some unmet dependencies09:00
editionis vi still a good editor to use?09:01
Mountain_Rubuntu 14:04 64bit xfce09:01
nearstwhich package unmet depencencies?09:01
varunendralias81, do you think showing us the error messages can be a great chance of help? We can try to redirect them to a file > copy it to a flash drive (from command line) and pastebin them09:02
toolazyforanameedition: vi or vim never goes out of style09:02
Mountain_Rvarunendra, 14.04 64bit xfce09:02
editioncant use it :)09:02
toolazyforanameedition: why09:02
editioni am linux idiot :)09:03
varunendraMountain_R, no experience with either (14.04 or xfce). But have you tried normal power management options?09:03
Mountain_Rsure I have done lots of changes09:03
toolazyforanameedition: well to be fair, vi isn't linux. it's a text editor09:03
lias81varunendra: i think that i will waste your time my friend.  the only way to do this is to take a photo and send it with email .09:03
varunendraedition, I keep reading that it is great, although so far I have never needed it.09:03
Mountain_Rnothing, after 1 minute the monitor is switched off09:03
varunendralias81, photos can be uploaded to imagebin :)09:04
nearstimgur also ok09:04
he1kkiI would like to add my own web source search instead of amazon/ubuntu one. Good idea?09:04
lias81i dont know  that service. but if you like i can do it for you. but i think is hopeless. i completely destroyed  my machine\09:05
toolazyforanamestrong with the defeatist attitude you are09:07
nearstlias81, http://askubuntu.com/questions/140246/how-do-i-resolve-unmet-dependencies09:07
lccadminprovided I can manage to capture video and audio, what's the best app to stream it out to something like youtube or ustream or livestream?09:07
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varunendralias81, I don't mind trying as long as I am hanging out here. I'm here to 'waste' my time ;p But if you wish, there are ways to fix/install packages offline.09:11
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lias81i am trying to upload a phot09:11
nearstim learning here09:12
varunendraMountain_R, is it Xubuntu or just xfce installed on top of default Ubuntu?09:12
he1kkianswer to my on question probably is unity-scope-tool and http://developer.ubuntu.com/scopes/tutorials/scope-development-procedures/09:13
he1kki/on/own09:13
lias81nearst: varunendra  https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2xUHrOGZOwqQ21YSV9rcDRBZmdmOE9BcjI0Z2tLWEU1Qmt3/edit?usp=sharing09:15
varunendralias81, and what happens when you do "sudo apt-get -f install" ?09:17
nick07my ubuntu 14.04 never cold start with the cpu fan running, after the laptop gets to hot after 20 minutes I turns off and after that, when it cooled down, I can turn on the computer and the cpu fan is running09:17
nick07*it turns off09:17
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thonzaMy computer have ability to remove all fans and show games silently09:19
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lias81varunendra: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2xUHrOGZOwqLXpZbDJ5Z19XTjY2RHJZX2d6enBmbmN2dEdF/edit?usp=sharing09:22
nearstlias81, try with "sudo apt-get -f install" ?09:22
lias81nearst:  this is what i get https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2xUHrOGZOwqLXpZbDJ5Z19XTjY2RHJZX2d6enBmbmN2dEdF/edit?usp=sharing09:23
thonzawhat is the -f in the command?09:23
toolazyforanameprobably force09:25
lias81need more clear photo?09:25
nearstlias81, it seems like gnome3 issue09:26
varunendralias81, so it proceeds to do what it is supposed to do, but then due to no internet connection, it fails. So we have two possible approaches - 1) get connected to internet if that is easy (I may try), or, 2) try an option "--print-uris" with "apt-get" command (I'm not sure whether it'll work or not with the -f option)09:26
varunendralias81, a working internet connection could make things a breeze. Can't you get a wired connection for the moment? If not, what is the problem with the wireless connection (have you tried the "nmcli" command yet?)09:27
nearsttry purge ppa , but that pc also offline. ^^09:27
lias81varunendra:  i will probably need a wired connection09:27
thonza??09:28
thonzaWhy you need internet09:28
lias81varunendra: my pc can "see" the available wifi but it cant connect09:29
varunendralias81, unless some networking service has crashed (or not started at this stage), you can use the "nmcli" command to activate a connection that you might have been using.09:29
newbieAlerthey hi all. Whats the way to corrupt the selective fields of SuperBlock of a USB stick ??09:29
nearstlias81, purge ppa, update and upgrade09:29
yossarianukhi - is anyone aware if you can load an installed OS in RAM like you can with the livecd - i.e https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootToRAM09:29
varunendralias81, what is the name of that connection (profile name - by which you saved that connection)?09:29
ravinduHi guys, I installed Ubuntu on my laptop that has a Bisoncam NB Pro webcam built in. The hardware for the webcam ('Bisoncam NB Pro') gets detected, but when I can't seem to get a picture out of it. How do I fix this?09:29
nearstsudo nmcli nm09:30
UnderAttackGAZA.09:30
lias81varunendra: i will type profile name lias wifi klanitsa?09:30
varunendranearst, lias81 the usual command to use an existing (saved) connection is : "nmcli con up id <profile id of the connection>"09:31
varunendralias81, if the profile name contains blank spaces, you must enclose it within double-quotes09:32
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ravinduHi guys, I installed Ubuntu on my laptop that has a Bisoncam NB Pro webcam built in. The hardware for the webcam ('Bisoncam NB Pro') gets detected, but when I can't seem to get a picture out of it. How do I fix this?09:32
newbieAlert??09:32
newbieAlert??09:32
newbieAlert??09:32
thonzaomg09:32
nearst!spam | newbieAlert09:33
ubottunewbieAlert: Please don't spam09:33
newbieAlertsorry09:33
ravinduHello, will anyone help me/09:33
lias81status activating and after 90 secs is timed out09:34
zubairahmedplease wait your turn ravindu09:34
varunendrathonza, your problem sounds like an acpi issue. I have no experience with that, but some users at ubuntuforums do have good experience with power issues.09:34
ravinduzubairahmed: okay.09:34
varunendra!anyone | ravindu09:34
ravinduvarunendra: ?09:34
nearst!ask | ravindu09:35
ubotturavindu: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience09:35
Gaza_PalestineGaza Burning! http://t.co/g1J5GN3VDQ09:35
thonzaravindu: help this man09:35
ravinduubottu: okay.09:35
varunendraravindu, I was trying to trigger the bot.... failed... nearst did it correctly above :)09:35
nearstlol09:35
varunendrathonza, have you tried 'fancontrol' program yet?09:36
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thonzayes09:36
thonzano problem here09:37
TurkActivist70 Gazans killed in Israeli ground assault http://www.aa.com.tr/en/news/361192--70-gazans-killed09:37
nearst!offtopic | TurkActivist09:37
ubottuTurkActivist: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!09:37
yossarianukTurkActivist: no matter how morally correct the things your posting - its very much offtopic - i.e here is not the place.09:37
varunendrathonza, that was my first and probably last suggestion (apart from some weird boot options which I don't understand much myself)09:37
lias81my friends , as you can see it is hopeless. i will erase everything09:38
ravinduAnyone?09:38
nearstlias81, u need Internet connection to purge broken package and doin upgrade normally09:39
nick07my cpu fan on 14.04 is never going to spin if the laptop is turned on. Only after the laptop went overheated and cooled down a bit I starts spinning09:39
nick07any ideas?09:39
lias81nearst:  do you think is only an internet problem?09:39
varunendralias81, perhaps as my last suggestion, please also try - "apt-get --print-uris -f install" Does it return any download URIs?09:39
varunendralias81, I am basically a wireless troubleshooter, but that will probably another long road.09:40
varunendraprobably be*09:40
lias81varunendra: it gives me two url's09:41
nearstlias81, try this. sudo dconf reset -f /org/compiz && sudo setsid unity , sudo restart lightdm restart and try login again.09:41
nearst*sudo service lightdm restart09:42
varunendralias81, only two? sure? and no errors?09:42
LinX64ohh dear09:44
varunendraravindu, which program are you using to use the webcam?09:44
LinX64hi my friends09:44
ravinduvarunendra: cheese webcam booth09:44
ravinduvarunendra: I tried accessing the webcam with lots of programs, but I still get a black screen09:45
LinX64:|09:45
ravinduvarunendra: I believe that I might need a better driver for it.09:45
varunendraravindu, please also try 'guvcview' if haven't already. It offers a lot more controls than cheese09:45
ravinduvarunendra: How can i download a webcam driver for Ubuntu 14.04?09:45
LinX64varunendra :how sre you?09:45
LinX64are*09:45
toolazyforanameLinX64: ask your ubuntu related question. there is no need for greetings09:45
LinX64ok ok:d09:46
varunendraravindu, webcam drivers are, as far as I know, generic and are already available in default installation (or come with the programs you use as frontends)09:46
gustavoHi09:46
LinX64wlc new user's09:46
varunendraI am fine by the way LinX64 :p09:46
visceraCan I disable fade animations when I show desktop and switch windows?09:46
ravinduvarunendra: well, what should I do to get this think to work?09:46
LinX64:d09:46
visceraThey're kinda slow.09:46
LinX64this is not chatroom ok ?:D09:46
gustavoWill Ubuntu 14.10 come with new icons???09:47
LinX64:-?09:47
LinX64maybe..09:47
LinX64wlc09:47
toolazyforanamegustavo: not sure, but you can install custom ions if you like09:47
varunendraravindu, I am not a webcam or video expert, but please install 'guvcview' first, and let us know if it does any miracle.09:47
LinX64toolazy09:47
gustavoI hope so, the old ones are dated.09:47
visceragustavo: be thankful for the old ones, most distros are ugly as hell09:47
LinX64best desktop's for ubuntu ?09:47
ravinduvarunendra: sudo apt-get install guvcview?09:47
gustavoHahahahaha I guess09:48
varunendraravindu, yup09:48
ravinduLinX64: UNITY!!!09:48
ravinduvarunendra: Thanks09:48
viscera(although gradients are looking dated)09:48
toolazyforanameravindu:  get out09:48
LinX64ok09:48
toolazyforaname:P09:48
LinX64sudo apt-get install UNITY09:48
LinX64?09:48
LinX64im new on ubuntu09:48
ikoniaLinX64: unity desktop is installed by default in ubuntu09:48
ikoniaLinX64: it is the default desktop09:48
visceraLinX64: I used "tasksel install ubuntu-desktop"09:48
LinX64where is it ?09:48
lias81varunendra: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2xUHrOGZOwqbW16aGNlejNXNlF5eWZvUjN4TXA1QjdFRjNZ/edit?usp=sharing09:48
LinX64ok09:49
LinX64this is nice place for question's09:49
newbieAlerthey help with superblock corruptiion.09:49
visceraLinX64: "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" does the same thing, as far as I can tell09:49
LinX64tnx guys09:49
lccadminI guess I've answered my own questino about capturing video (vlc) but has anyone had any luck with it ans s-video cables?  I've got weird looking video -- staticky looking with a bunch of green lines at the bottom09:49
visceraLinX64: most of mine don't get answered09:49
toolazyforanameLinX64: Its completely up to personal preference. My suggestion would be to try out many in a vm, and decide for yorself09:49
varunendralias81, I don't believe only those two packages can fix the whole thing, but anything is possible. Please use the download URIs to download the packages on a computer which has internet connection. Then you'll need to move them to our target system (on a flash drive/cd whatever is easy for you) and install with "sudo dpkg -i *"09:51
varunendralias81, if you wish to attempt that, I'd be glad to provide step-by-step instructions - as correctly as I can :)09:52
lias81varunendra: i ve already made a dvd to re-install ubuntu. i will try to see what programms i had installed and i will try to contect to internet by booting with live cd. will this help?09:53
varunendralias81, a working live dvd should help a lot, at least to move the packages.09:54
lias81i ll try this09:54
varunendralias81, some more experienced expert could possibly help you better with 'chroot' thing, but I have no experience with that.09:55
lias81varunendra: you have already did more than enough :-)09:56
antithesisIs startx supported again or still not?10:05
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nick07my fan of cpu is not spinning on 14.04 so laptop shutdown after while,any idea?10:12
Rohan_mI am using Smuxi and unable to find any programming groups ???10:13
Rohan_mnick07: same happens to me10:14
Rohan_mnick07: i dont know the problem but i gess it over heating10:14
Rohan_mnick07: did u tried cleaning your heat sink and the dust inside your laptop give it a try i'm sure it'll help10:15
nick07problem is if the laptop was overheated and I wait few minutes and turn the computer ON, then the fan IS spinning...10:15
MonkeyDustnick07  same here, cannot use e.g. virtualbox, because my pc heats to fast too much10:15
Rohan_mnick07:YOu r from tropical region which country10:15
nick07ha no, holland10:16
Rohan_mnick07: did u trid to replug your ram !10:16
Rohan_mRohan_m: and check the CPU temp logs when it shutdowns10:16
nick07no, but the fan IS working second time start10:16
nick07if i install 13.10 problem gone10:17
Rohan_mnick07: so what fan tries to cool it down but heat is so much that it cant accomodate to cool it down10:17
Rohan_mnick07: yeah i'm also using 14.04 and this problem comes to often ! i guess hey have problem with build10:18
nick07no, fan is not spinning, cpu over heats, then laptop stops. then wait few minutes, turn computer on, fan spinning10:18
nick07so, the is a prolem with 14.04?10:19
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nick07*there10:19
nick07any solutons to solve it by installing something?10:19
sivtecknick07: support for 13.10 ended recently. Try installing 14.04 and see.10:20
nick07this is 14.04 and that gives the problem10:20
sivtecknick07: ah, sorry.10:20
MonkeyDustthe heating problem started with 14.04 and everything derived from it10:20
nick07sensor-detects nothing, only NO NO NO10:20
nick07is the problem in the 14.04 kernel?10:21
solarflynick07 do a google search on "ubuntu 14.04 fan not working" there are many, many articles posted just this year on this issue10:22
k1l!away > Power_OFF10:22
ubottuPower_OFF, please see my private message10:22
nick07did that, no solution10:22
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MonkeyDustnick07  i'm reading this http://refugeeks.com/use-tlp-to-optimize-the-power-consumption-in-ubuntu/10:22
nick07I installed tlp already, nothing changed10:23
MonkeyDustnick07  hm, same here10:24
nick07so, then I go back to 13.10 i think10:24
nearstnot sure, im use liquorix10:24
MonkeyDustnick07  that's unsupported, you'll find no help or updated for it, if you want an earlier version, use 12.0410:25
nick07just need a working fan and xmbc, thats it10:25
ravinduGuys, why doesn't gksu /opt/sublime_text/sublime_text %F not launch sublime text? The file path is correct10:25
MonkeyDustravindu  try first without %F10:26
nearstsublime not from repo ?10:26
ravinduMonkeyDust: It doesn't work without $F either10:27
ravinduMonkeyDust: *%F10:27
ravinduMonkeyDust: sudo subl works however... Why is that?10:27
antithesisIs startx supported?10:28
MonkeyDustravindu  use this command: whereis sublime_text10:28
ravindu/opt/sublime_text/sublime_text10:28
MonkeyDustravindu  and: ls -l /opt/sublime_text/sublime_text10:29
MonkeyDustravindu  i want to see if it's zxecutable or not10:29
ravindu-rwxr--r-- 1 ravindu ravindu 5152768 Jan 22 20:41 /opt/sublime_text/sublime_text10:30
MonkeyDustravindu  try: chmod 666 [path/to/file]10:32
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PowerKillerah10:34
ravinduMonkeyDust: It doesn't work...10:34
PowerKillernp I'm leaving #ubuntu then10:34
ravinduMonkeyDust: I used chmod +x /opt/sublime_text/sublime_text and now sudo sublime_text works10:36
MonkeyDustravindu  and if you go to the folder and then run sublime_text10:36
ravinduwhy doesnt gksu or gksudo work with it?10:36
MonkeyDustravindu  does gksu synatpic work?10:37
MonkeyDustravindu  does gksu synaptic work?10:37
ravinduyep.10:38
MonkeyDustravindu  ok, so that's not it...10:38
ravinduso how do I make it work?10:38
MonkeyDustravindu  beats me, frankly, i'm not familiar with sublime_text... did you get it from the repo's?10:39
ravindui actually downloaded it from their website and installed it on my machine...10:40
zyntuxhey10:41
ravinduMonkeyDust: g2g. Thanks anyways for trying to help me :)10:41
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jattI upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04 and now i get the following message when trying to double click on a external usb drive: http://picpaste.com/ar-AHJZ0ImZ.png10:51
jatthow can I avoid to have to give username/password?10:51
jattI mean password10:51
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Jackripthatdoorwhat's the file manager used in Gnome?10:59
DJonesJackripthatdoor: Nautilus10:59
Jackripthatdoorconfirmed.11:00
DJonesJackripthatdoor: At least thats what I'm assuming it is, possibly shows up as Files or Nautilus11:00
lias81varunendra: toolazyforaname nearst  what a foolllliiiiiish Am I?!?!?! there is an option when you boot from a live cd , that states you can re-install your ububtu `4,04 and your files wont be deleted! I completely forgot that option. I am wondering if the programms will be there after the re-installing is completed. anyway i will it in few minutes and i ll inform you11:01
nearstlias81, it will not touch your /home data11:02
lias81nearst: i pray for it :-p11:13
lias81nearst: will this action fix all my installation problems?11:15
AlexPortable installed ginome session fallback, how can I remove the shutdown icon in the right bottom corner?11:15
basiclaserwhere are shared libraries in 14.04? :) I need to add in libudev.so.011:18
nearstlias81, hope so11:18
lias81nearst: I did it ! all my files are there! but all my programms are missing. and still i cant connec to wifi.!!! but when i was with live cd i was conected11:22
basiclaserlias81: wifi PW might not have been retained, put the PW in again?11:22
lias81pw?11:23
kristenbbhello, how can I edit the grub file ? I have installed 14.04 on dual boot, but I keep going back to 12.04, there is no entry to go to 14.04.11:23
basiclaserlias81: password11:23
lias81i mean it isnt able to see any wifi! only wired connections and vpn11:23
lias81nearst: i mean it isnt able to see any wifi! only wired connections and vpn11:25
kokikinghola11:31
kokikingalgien save como liverar un router?11:32
k1l!es | kokiking11:32
ubottukokiking: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.11:32
apb1963I want to move my /home to a new drive.  What is the recommended ubuntu 12.04 way to do so?11:41
bazhang!home11:42
ubottuYour home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving11:42
apb1963ty11:42
emx"WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" <-- do i get this message because 12.10 is not supported anymore?11:49
k1lemx: yep. 12.10 should not be run anymore11:49
philinuxemx;~ you can see here what's going on, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases11:53
emxk1l, philinux: thanks11:53
emxand when i make an update i risk a non-working installation :-/11:55
apb1963ok there's something a bit odd in that guide....11:55
apb1963It has the following lines:11:56
apb1963# (identifier)  (location, eg sda5)   (format, eg ext3 or ext4)      (some settings)11:56
apb1963UUID=????????   /media/home    ext3          defaults       0       211:56
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apb1963notice it says "(location, eg sda5)" but has "/media/home"11:56
philinuxemx;~ probably better to clean install 14.04, after backing up important data11:57
emxhail to version control :)11:58
apb1963so it's referencing a device in the example... but a mount point in the "live" actual line11:58
emxthe annoying thing will be to gather all the packages i have installed.11:58
philinuxemx;~ packages why?11:59
apb1963I guess the UUID serves as the device... so the line is right.... but the comment isn't exactly clear.  Yes?11:59
philinuxapb1963;~ my take is that in the example the user created a new partition sda512:00
BillyZanehmm12:00
emxphilinux, texmaker/latex/tex as an example. there are many packages that can be installed. i remember that it took me a few hours to have all that i need.12:00
apb1963philinux: right... like I have /dev/sda1 for my new partition12:01
apb1963philinux: but the blkid specifies the device... not "sda5".12:01
philinuxapb1963;~ so the uuid refers to sdaX mounted temprarily as /media/home12:01
* lias81 says many many T H A N K S for their valiable help and their time to nearst, varunendra and toolazyforaname . Once again guys I really thank you. Hopefully everything is ok due to your help12:02
apb1963philinux: right... but, there's no need to mention sdaX since the UUID is the device.  This is what's confusing to me.  sdaX doesn't actually factor in at all...... yes?12:03
philinuxapb1963;~ which then becomes the new /home12:03
levois it possible to download mysql jdbc driver from apt-get?12:03
philinuxapb1963;~ it's in a commented line as an aid memoir to which sda is being used12:03
apb1963philinux: I could see it as an aid to memory for someone that wrote it for themself... but as a tutorial it's slightly confusing.  Hence my confusion :)  But ok so that clarifies it.  Thank you12:05
philinuxapb1963;~ if you look at you current fstab it follows the same pattern , the commented line shows sdaX and the line underneath has the uuid of sdaX12:06
apb1963philinux: not MY fstab :) Mine  had nothing but: "# UNCONFIGURED FSTAB FOR BASE SYSTEM"12:07
apb1963philinux: of course I've long since modified it... but that's all I had to start.12:08
apb1963philinux: so maybe there was something I was supposed to have done?  But never did?12:08
philinuxapb1963;~ sample normal fstab http://paste.ubuntu.com/7819282/12:09
spongieHiya. I'm trying to install Ubuntu 14.04 i386 as guest in my qemu. When I pick "install ubuntu" the boot fails because libco.so.6 has wrong ELF header, and the kernel panics. Any of you have Ubuntu running under qemu?12:09
svetlana!qemu12:09
ubottuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo12:09
svetlanaAugh.12:09
apb1963philinux: mine has never looked like that... why is mine different?12:09
philinuxapb1963;~ no idea at all12:10
apb1963philinux: by what method do you normally modify it?12:10
philinuxapb1963;~ maybe look at sudo fdisk -l to understand what you got12:11
philinuxapb1963;~ normal don't modify it, but to move home to anew disk then yes you do12:11
apb1963philinux: oh I understand what my partition table looks like... it's just my fstab that apparently got the short end of the stick12:12
apb1963philinux: it's always perplexed me.  I never understood why my fstab was empty12:12
philinuxapb1963;~ then you can mofify the #commented line to reflect the setup12:12
philinuxapb1963;~ do this cat /etc/fstab | pastebinit12:13
apb1963philinux: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7819304/12:15
philinuxapb1963;~ never seen one like that, pc boots ok normally?12:17
apb1963philinux: yes12:17
apb1963apb1963: you'll notice everything but swap is commented out12:17
apb1963oophs12:17
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apb1963philinux: as I mentioned, the file was empty other than ""# UNCONFIGURED FSTAB FOR BASE SYSTEM"  the rest was hand entered... and other than swap, subsequently commented out.12:20
philinuxapb1963;~ I'm not an fstab expert - never seen that12:20
philinuxapb1963;~ what sort of install is it?12:20
apb1963philinux: I suppose it's possible it's an artifact of using debootstrap12:21
apb1963philinux: yeah, my new disk also has the same empty file12:22
apb1963philinux: this is my mtab: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7819460/12:24
alexxiohi12:28
alexxioi want to mount an usb dongle read only12:28
alexxiohow can i do it?12:28
philinuxapb1963;~ sorry can't help with that. I'm not familiar enough12:29
philinuxapb1963;~ maybe bazhang can help12:29
apb1963philinux: maybe :)  but thank you12:30
pasichi guys12:34
philinuxapb1963;~ someone asked here, i would not want to bork your system by recommending this http://askubuntu.com/questions/81726/how-to-rebuild-fstab-automatically12:34
pasici'd like to make my xubuntu to be ubuntustudio:) ... which packages need to install?12:34
k1lpasic: !info ubuntustudio-desktop | pasic12:35
k1l!info ubuntustudio-desktop | pasic12:35
ubottupasic: ubuntustudio-desktop (source: ubuntustudio-meta): Ubuntu Studio Desktop Package. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.126 (trusty), package size 5 kB, installed size 42 kB12:35
Addyhi, I am unable to connect to wifi since the network settings seem to be stuck on the WIRELESS HOTSPOT and on disabling the hotspot the network settings CRASH12:36
pasicthx-thx:) idunno, why it was removed from official metapackages ...12:36
pasicthere're lubuntu, xubuntu, edubuntu .... but not ubuntustudio12:36
pasic(i don't like use graph install:P)12:37
svetlana*don't like using12:37
svetlanaAddy: I would probably look at the output of 'dmesg'.12:37
apb1963philinux: yeah that's a hand edited job... I think just following the guide you pointed out should do it.  About the only difference between what they recommend and what I originally intended is they take great care in how they shift the data around (copy) - I was simply going to move it from /home to /mnt/c/home where my new drive is.12:38
apb1963philinux: of course they modify the live /etc/fstab whereas I was just going to modify the new one - /mnt/c/etc/fstab12:39
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apb1963philinux: so i'll just use their recommendation to copy (rsync actually), and modify my new fstab and reboot... should be fine.  If not...   I still have the original to boot from.12:40
apb1963philinux: in truth... my fstab isn't doing anything at all - i'm not even sure swap is mounting anymore (it used to, but I haven't checked on it lately).12:41
Addysvetlana: Here is the output for my dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/7819531/12:41
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bonghow do we empty the trash in lubuntu?12:42
apb1963philinux: I'm actually more concerned about what "aptik" is going to bring in when I install it.... but that's a different question.12:42
bonghow do we empty the trash in lubuntu?12:43
Addysvetlana: Here is the output for my dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/7819531/12:44
svetlanaAddy: you may want to paste the entire thing, without grepping.12:45
philinuxapb1963;~ good luck , interesting app12:48
apb1963philinux: did you install it?  or just read about it?12:49
Addysvetlana: Here you go without grep http://paste.ubuntu.com/7819562/12:49
AddyHope this helps as I am unable to find a solution since 8 hours for this problem12:49
philinuxapb1963;~ read about it, I've have no ppa's on my system. I dont install many additionnal apps12:49
svetlanaAddy: this helps after you resume from suspend or at some other time?12:50
varunendraAddy, that sounds a very strange problem to me. But for technical details, the 'wireless_script' would be much better than manually hunting for clues. I suggest the experimental one : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1302422212:50
svetlanaAddy: *this happens12:50
apb1963philinux: just no interest, or are you more interested in trying to stay pure?12:50
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philinuxapb1963;~ i use stuff like vlc etc etc stuff not installed by default12:51
Addyvarunendra: I have already posted it the wireless script output on forums but no replies till now so I came here on irc12:51
apb1963philinux: you mean stuff only in the repos12:51
philinuxmainly yep12:52
varunendraAddy, please give me the link to your thread/post12:52
Addyvarunendra: Here is the thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223515112:52
jkghi folks. I'm failing to install emacs 24 on 14.04. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7819567/ happens when I try. I'm not really sure where to start digging, any pointers would be appreciated.12:52
apb1963philinux: yeah, I found that to be a bit limiting.  Hell, I got started on ubuntu by someone that recommended it so I could run asterisk... so I was "out of compliance" from day 1 just by installing asterisk.12:53
Addyvarunendra: I had also asked on askubuntu http://askubuntu.com/questions/499811/ubuntu-14-04-libnetwork-so-crash-for-unity-control-centre12:53
varunendraAddy, funny that it was moved to a new thread on my very request. I fell asleep while waiting for it to be moved.. ;p12:54
jkguh. ignore my previous question. removing the gforth package it Just Works, so I'd obviously left something half-done and broken at some point. sorry!12:54
varunendraAddy, but you have posted the output of the regular version of the script, not the experimental one I linked to. It provides more info that can be very useful sometimes.12:55
Addyvarunendra: I hope that you are able to help me since I have tried many a times to move to ubuntu but honestly this kind of a day literally puts me off from the wonderful OS12:56
Addyvarunendra: I would try the experimental one as well now give me sometime12:56
laughingtigerwhat?12:56
varunendraAddy, I agree, Ubuntu still has many issues that may be annoying at times. But every OS has and in the end it is the overall advantage/disadvantage compared to other OSes that should become the deciding factor.12:57
laughingtigerNICK laughingtiger12:58
Addyvarunendra: do you want me to post the output on the forums or here on pastebin13:00
varunendraAddy, I have no clue why it is stuck at hotspot mode, but there are two probably non-related things that you should optimize - first - please change the encryption type in your router to pure WPA2-PSK with AES, no WPA/WPA2 mixed mode.13:00
varunendraAddy, both would be nice :)13:00
Addyvarunendra: Here is the link http://paste.ubuntu.com/7819601/13:01
varunendraAddy, the second thing that can (should) be optimized - explicitly define your country code (IN) for regdomain settings. You can do so by editing the "/etc/default/crda" file to change "REGDOMAIN=" to "REGDOMAIN=IN". The change will take effect after a reboot.13:02
Kristina21 You can find funny videos here. http://j.mp/1sAwP6t13:05
Addyvarunendra: I have changed the router's wifi security to WPA2-PSK with AES earlier it was Automatic with AES, but since I am connected through web irc I cannot reboot the router13:05
paulo_hello13:05
paulo_i'm downloading VLC through apt-get and I keep gettign 404 errors13:05
k1lpaulo_: please pastebin the output13:06
varunendraAddy, rebooting the router is usually not necessary unless the router itself is asking you to do so. It is just to make sure the change takes effect properly and immediately. Most routers can adapt the change immediately anyway.13:06
MV48Hello all, I've just installed ubuntu 14.14 and can't seem to get dual monitors working. I've tried using the "settings >  displays" and disper (command line app). Both displays show and they recently worked with my win7 setup. Any tips? thx13:06
Addyvarunendra: I have just changed the crda file and rebooted13:07
varunendraAddy, exactly at which stage does the system crash while trying to change/disable the hotspot mode?13:08
paulo_ubuntu just went full screen terminal13:10
paulo_idk what I pressed13:10
paulo_I smashed the keyboard and got back here13:10
paulo_what happened?13:10
yossarianuk.....13:10
Addyvarunendra: I access the Network from System Settings....then when I click on SWITCH OFF the WIRELESS HOTSPOT then it asks for a confirmation and then BOOM the window showing the option goes off and there is a CRASH in the syslog13:10
MV48I'd like to rephrase my question. I've just installed ubuntu 14.14 and my laptop screen doesn't display, while my VGA monitor does. I can't seem to "extend" the view. Here's a pastebin of disper -l output: http://pastebin.com/LupWf9xL13:11
varunendraAddy, we can try a potentially problematic solution. But I'm not sure if it has the problem to trigger the above bug automatically since next boot, so keep a live dvd/usb handy if we try that.13:12
nightdemon666anyone here manage to properly get a bluetooth headset to work in ubuntu 14.04???13:13
Addyvarunendra: I have a install usb with me which I can use as a LIVE USB13:14
varunendraAddy, the thing I'm thinking of trying is to just move the hotspot profile file from /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections directory. Move it to your Desktop or some other folder, but not in your Home.13:14
gcl5cphow do i capture STDOUT of a process running in tty4? it has 2 days running so i don't want to stop it, can i capture STDOUT in tty3, by PID or...?13:14
Addyvarunendra: do you need the exact screenshot and also the line of syslog where the unity contol centre error where it mentions something about libnetwork.so13:15
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varunendraAddy, if you see anything that looks like a hint, please upload that section of the logs (with some extra lines before/after).13:17
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lubuntu-rulesHow to solve problems with Unity interface >>   http://img42.com/uNIym+13:17
Addyvarunendra: moving the hotspot profile has atleast done something13:20
Addyvarunendra: now atleast in the network I can see the available wifi networks with their strengths....now the hotspot profile was something which was causing the problem....is it needed for further investigation13:21
kamal_gcl5cp: http://stackoverflow.com/a/142103913:21
varunendraAddy, keep it for now. Delete it when we are done.13:21
cagriAre there any good ubuntu math programs, like maple/mathcad13:22
varunendraAddy, so are you unable to connect to the AP now?13:22
nightdemon666im assuming no one here is using a bluetooth headset with their ubuntu 14.04 installation --- IM SURE SOMEBODY HERE USES SKYPE!13:22
Octavian95hi all13:23
Octavian95i'm trying to set up a hotspot in 12.04 but its not visible on my android 4.1.2 device please help13:23
varunendraAddy, the only other thing that I can think of to help optimize the connectivity is to try some driver parameters as explained here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1281591213:24
Addyvarunendra: When I try to connect to the AP nothing happens and this what happens at the syslog level http://paste.ubuntu.com/7819685/13:26
varunendraAddy, usually we try backported drivers in case of such connectivity problems, especially in case of realtek drivers, but due to some unknown bug (bug #1342703), the latest backported package fails to compile on kernel 3.13.0-30 and later13:26
ubottubug 1342703 in linux (Ubuntu) "Backports doesn't compile against 3.13.0-30" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134270313:26
Addyvarunendra: please note that the first line of the paste is the error which was happening due to the HOTSPOT profile13:27
Octavian95somebody?13:28
varunendraAddy, I suggest you also delete the profile "RU" and try connecting again to create a fresh profile. It looks like a security key or other authentication issue. Could be related to the change you just made in encryption of the router.13:31
gcl5cpkamal_: thank you13:32
Octavian95varunendra: seems like you have some knowledge about wifi and hotspot related issues could you help me please?13:35
varunendraOctavian95, some knowledge about wifi - yes, but about hotspot - almost none. But let me see..13:37
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lubuntu-rulesOctavian95:  What wifi device do you have?13:37
varunendraOctavian95, are you sure the hotspot mode is activated currently? Plus the answer to what lubuntu-rules asked..13:38
varunendraOctavian95, to find out exactly which device + driver you have, please show us the output of "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net"13:39
Octavian95i have 2 wifi device (the one thats inside my laptop and a usb dongle)13:39
Addyvarunendra: I forgot to mention that the option to connect to the wifi is also not coming on the Desktop, I basically have to access it through the Network settings only13:39
varunendraOctavian95, and which one are you using as the hotspot?13:39
Octavian95varunendra: the internal one13:41
varunendraAddy, you mean the SSID is not visible in nm-applet's drop-down menu?13:41
Octavian95which is b44 as i see from that command13:41
varunendraOctavian95, b44 is ethernet card, not wifi13:41
Addyvarunendra: there is no nm-applet if that is what it is called13:41
varunendrasorry, *driver, not card13:41
varunendraAddy, it is the network manager's icon on the top-right corner (if using default ubuntu with unity)13:42
Addyvarunendra: there is no option to click and enable networking on the system bar (sorry for my bad way of explaining things since I am coming from windows)13:42
Octavian95well i'm trying to bring the internet from one wifi connection to another13:42
Octavian95not from the wired connection (lan)13:42
Addyvarunendra: Yes the network manager's icon on the top-right is also not coming13:43
varunendraAddy, is it Ubuntu with Unity?13:43
Addyvarunendra: yes Ubuntu with Unity..the one which is downloaded from the ubuntu website desktop13:44
varunendraAddy, in a terminal, please enter "nm-applet" - are there any error messages? If not, is the icon back and working (must keep the terminal open in background in this method)13:46
Addyvarunendra: I am getting the message tht program nm-applet can be found in the following packages: *network-manager-gnome *mythbuntu-diskless-client13:47
varunendraAddy, wow! How and when did you manage to remove the network manager? Did you try some other network manager program (wicd for example?)13:48
Addyvarunendra: no idea...earlier I was trying to clear a problem with my display since there are 2 display GPUs in my notebook and maybe then I might have done something...can't really be sure of this that how I had removed the network manager13:49
Addyvarunendra: would I need to do to a reinstall of the ubuntu now :(, would I be able to keep my home folder in that case13:50
reversiblean_Why don't you guys fix the low resolution boot splash screen issues with nvidia. Content here is out dated https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia as well.13:52
Octavian95so i'm trying to create a hotspot by using 2 wireless cards (internal builtin card from laptop + usb wifi card) i'm trying to get the internet from the usb card to be spreaded through internal wifi card from my laptop. i tryed but not working till now13:53
varunendraAddy, reinstalling network-manager is not a big deal :)13:53
Octavian95is that even possible or did i do something wrong? tried ap-hotspot too still not working13:53
Addyvarunendra: I can recall yesterday the wifi was working properly and then I just did a Hibernate of my system and then when I came to office in the morning the wifi was doing these things13:53
Octavian95:(13:53
Addyvarunendra: I think the network manager was lost due to hibernation...this is the best I can think off since I cannot recall trying to remove the manager or installing wicd13:54
varunendraAddy, use the command "apt-get install --print-uris network-manager-gnome" to print the download URIs of the required packages > download them on a system where internet is working > move them to the target machine > install with "sudo dpkg -i *"13:54
varunendraAddy, this kind of mysterious disappearance of a package is not usual though, makes me suspect of a broken install - broken from beginning or later. But maybe just reinstalling the package(s) will fix everything.13:56
varunendraOctavian95, if you don't already have, I recommend posting a thread about your problem on ubuntuforums.org. I am not much familiar with Hotspots like I said, but plenty of users/experts are who may be able to help you out in no time.13:58
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Addyvarunendra: Also while I was trying some commands from your post which you gave the wifi is not visible at all after the modprobe command with -rv14:05
Addyvarunendra: is it going to be fixed when I install the nm14:05
varunendraAddy, the "-r" option with modprobe removes the driver. Without "-r" the driver is loaded/reloaded. So that will obviously disable wifi. Just run the next command and it'll be back. :)14:07
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Addyvarunendra: can I reset these values, also I am still not getting the network manager icon on the desktop14:12
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Guest47013internet in my ubuntu 14.04 is very very very very slow   why ?14:12
Guest47013please help me14:12
varunendraAddy, just remove/reload the drivers without parameters, and everything will be at defaults. For the nm-applet icon, you need to install the network-manager-gnome package like I mentioned earlier. Did you get that message?14:13
svetlanavarunendra, bekks: I had to burn using another computer. then this computer reads the dvd okay. -- this means that the dvd was okay when it was blank, too, but there is some software issue (or inability of this hardware to write).14:13
Addyvarunendra: the network manager has been installed and it is working fine14:13
varunendrasvetlana, it may also be an incompatibility between the disc type and the writer's capabilities :|14:14
Addyvarunendra: after installing the 3 files the wifi has started to work but only the nm-applet icon are not showing14:14
varunendraAddy, did you try the "nm-applet" command again? Any more errors this time?14:15
varunendraGuest47013, please rationalize "very very very.... slow". How do you measure the speeds? Any stats or comparisons?14:16
Addy_varunendra: I am getting this message http://pastebin.com/BbweTixh14:17
apb1963Has anyone used blueprint for package management?14:18
Guest47013<varunendra> Internet speed is low14:18
Guest47013<varunendra>  IP6 is disable but still internet speed is slow14:19
Addy_varunendra: btw I am now on the notebook atleast the internet is now working after you pointed out that rubbish of my network manager tools being missing14:19
Mrloafbot114:20
Octavian95does ubuntu 12.04 have any built in picture editor? something like paint from windows ?14:20
bekksOctavian95: Just install an editor if you like :) Something like gimp14:21
varunendraAddy_, the nm-applet icon doesn't come up after that message in terminal? Have you rebooted the system after installation (shouldn't be necessary, but may help getting rid of that error)14:21
apb1963Octavian95: try gimp or inkscape or krita14:21
svetlanagpaint14:21
tobylaneI installed ubuntu to a laptop by a usb stick but couldn't install grub or lilo at the time. I'm now running a live-usb and I'm trying to get to the right place to run grub. Where is the right place to install grub on the hard drive from a livecd?14:21
Octavian95well i need a simple one14:22
Octavian95i dont need fancy features14:22
Addy_varunendra: I did reboot but let me give it another shot...I would reboot again and comeback.14:22
varunendraOctavian95, If you prefer something like paint on windows, try kolourpaint14:22
Octavian95ok where can i get it?14:22
varunendraGuest47013, we still have neither stats nor comparisons to define 'slow'. How much average download/upload speed are you getting?14:23
levoOctavian95: sudo apt-get install kolourpaint14:23
tobylaneMy hard drive is sdb1, but I'm told that's already mounted at /cdrom which is the live usb14:23
varunendraOctavian95, it is in default repos. "sudo apt-get install kolourpaint"14:24
Addy_varunendra: I just rebooted again and still there is no icon for the network manager14:25
FlaikerHi, I have a spare hdd I'd like to install ubuntu on. I have windows 8.1 on  my ssd. How will choosing the os work? Since they are on different drives, can I just select the device to boot from in my bios and not have to use a bootmanager?14:25
tobylaneFlaiker a boot manager is tidier14:25
Octavian95i get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7819927/14:25
varunendraAddy_, the icon not coming up automatically is not unusual, but that error in terminal is. I suspect something else is broken too.14:25
tobylaneYou can have it only wait one second for an answer, so you'd have to be pressing buttons in that one second to get the non default os Flaiker14:26
daftykinsFlaiker: you'd have to pull the SSD and install with the other drive only connected14:26
Flaikertobylane: well, i havent used any os other than windows so I just wanted to try it out and if I dont like it it might be a pain to get the bootmanager away again14:27
Flaikerno?14:27
varunendraOctavian95, sorry, that is the package you need to install "kolourpaint4"14:27
Addy_varunendra: what should I do to get to the root cause...do you suspect more broken packages in my notebook which is causing this kind of behaviour.14:27
tobylaneFlaiker you can repair it to what windows wants from within windows14:27
tobylaneOr simply turn grub to 0 seconds14:27
Addy_varunendra: I just again typed the nm-tool and this time around I get a good response.14:28
Octavian95so "sudo apt-get install kolourpaint4" should work then?14:28
varunendraAddy_, I think I am a bit confused at this moment (multitasking and also interacting with chili555 via PMs on a separate issue). Please post the current status (including the nm-applet error in terminal) at the forums and maybe I'll get back on proper track. :)14:29
Addy_varunendra: this is the output of nm-tool here http://paste.ubuntu.com/7819943/14:29
Flaikertobylane, you by chance know where that repair option is?14:29
tobylaneI saw it on google 20 mins ago, I'll look for it14:29
Flaikerpropably just using the repair console right?14:30
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tobylaneFlaiker never done it myself, but here's what google says http://www.tweakhound.com/2012/11/13/how-to-fix-the-windows-bootloader/14:30
varunendraAddy_, WOW!!! We are having nice discoveries here... the user permission is funky too :D14:30
Octavian95you gotta be kidding me kolourpaint is 191MB i need a smaller photo editor something under 10MB if possible :(14:31
varunendraAddy_, please show us the output of "id"14:31
bekksOctavian95: Isnt possible. :)14:31
Flaikertobylane, thanks, nice to know about that beforehand14:31
tobylaneOctavian95 features are worth it in programs nowadays14:31
varunendraOctavian95, that is because it is meant for KDE desktop environment. So comes with a big baggage if your DE is not KDE :D14:31
cfhowlett!photo14:31
Octavian95then which is the smallest photo editor then?14:32
tobylaneDepends on your DE14:32
cfhowlettOctavian95 look in software center - choice abounds14:32
varunendraOctavian95, if you are on Unity or gnome, try gpaint that svetlana suggested earlier.14:32
tobylaneOctavian95 what is the most complicated thing you need it to do?14:32
varunendra!info gpaint | Octavian9514:32
ubottuOctavian95: gpaint (source: gpaint): GNU Paint - a small, easy to use paint program for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.3-6.1 (trusty), package size 104 kB, installed size 717 kB14:32
tobylaneYou could get away with a web editor14:32
Octavian95draw a few lines :))14:32
Addy_varunendra: Now I am kind of confused as to how many commands do ppl using Linux have to learn and keep them in mind. here you go btw for the id output http://paste.ubuntu.com/7819961/14:33
MonkeyDustAddy_  if all goes well: none14:33
varunendraAddy_, you can keep using it without learning a single command. Commands just make things quick and easy for us troubleshooters :)14:33
Octavian95i'm gonna try gpaint14:34
tobylaneOctavian95 control imagemagick from the command line?14:34
tobylaneI could do with a program that could turn coords into a line map14:34
MonkeyDustAddy_  if you want control beyond the basics, commands can be handy14:34
Addy_MonkeyDust: I love the learning and hence I have switched to Linux but honestly would love to know small commands to do the changes for a power user, it is just that I don't know where to start14:35
Octavian95tobylane: what?14:35
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oscarAddy_: Heres a good place to start: https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html14:36
MonkeyDust!cli14:36
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal or type in it: man intro14:36
daftykinswow that trigger is outdated.14:36
ikoniaand it's gone14:37
oscaror man bash14:37
tobylaneI'm a little out of date with DEs, what is worth trying between e17 and xcfe?14:37
varunendraAddy_, the permissions look okay to me. The only one that I have here and you don't is "disk" - which I don't think is related to the wifi issue. But let's add you to that as well. Please run the command "sudo adduser aditya disk"14:37
b100shi2all14:37
cfhowletttobylane they're free.  "worth it" is subjective.  try them or don't = your choice14:37
daftykinsikonia: would it not be better to come up with a replacement rather than nuke?14:37
tobylaneOk14:38
b100si have 3.13.0-30-generic #55-Ubuntu and after use HDMI cant get back sound14:38
ikoniadaftykins: whole thing is pretty worthless you're welcome to write a replacement14:38
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Addy_varunendra: did that but after that when I run id it does not show the disk there14:39
neutrinowhere is the folder which has userchrome.css for firefox in ubuntu ?14:40
varunendraAddy_, if adding yourself to the "disk" group doesn't fix that error in nm-tool, I think you should delete and re-create the connection once again. I suspect a permission issue with the connection profile itself now (and I may be wrong again).14:40
Beldardaftykins, You need to write a book "the world from mt personal view is the best way". ;)14:40
Beldarmy*14:40
varunendraAddy_, close the terminal, open a new one. The new one should show the new group in the output14:40
daftykinsBeldar: heh, it's done but i can't find a publisher that does it right ;)14:40
varunendraAddy_, likewise, you *may* have to log off >> log in again for the permission to take effect properly. Although I still don't think it should be related to wifi issue.14:41
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Addy_varunendra: so what do you suggest....ne more suggestons?14:42
Octavian95ok so here's my post about my hotspot issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223517214:43
optrustyI have a siri bot14:43
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varunendraAddy_, delete the profile > recreate a new one (after log off > re login). If the error persists, post the updates on your thread @ ubuntuforums. My brain may work better after dinner ;p14:43
cfhowlettoptrusty ask or support ubuntu questions14:43
optrustyoh this is not offtopic srry14:44
varunendraOctavian95, opened and subscribed. I think I'll just wait for someone to jump in though.14:44
Octavian95varunendra: ok14:45
Octavian95i must go now i will come back later to see if someone posted something in the thread14:46
Octavian95bye all and thanks14:46
optrustyI think u should connect both wifi connections via switch14:50
optrustyThats what I did14:50
optrustyAnd if they both use the same ip 192.168.x.x14:51
optrustyAw he left14:52
varunendraoptrusty, but he has a thread where you can leave your suggestions : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223517214:54
optrustyk14:54
apb1963so I'm debating the best way to move off one drive and onto a new one.  I've already setup the second disk using debootstrap.  I've migrated /home to the new drive.  Now, afaik I only have to worry about reinstalling packages.  There seem to be a variety of ideas on the subject... can one of you experts provide some enlightened guidance?14:54
Flaikertobylane, So I just read some articles about dual booting on 2 drives. The way I understand it is that I set my boot medium in bios to the hdd which will then load grub, to let me chose either windows (sdd) or ubuntu (hdd). If I switch my boot medium to the ssd my windows bootloader will load, not knowing about ubuntu and therefore just loading normally. Which would make it possible to remove the hdd14:56
Flaikerand have no issues at all. Correct?14:56
TJ-apb1963: I usually do "dpkg --get-selections | grep -v '^lib' >/target/tmp/packages.list" and then in the chroot "cat /tmp/packages.list | xargs apt-get install"14:59
tobylaneYes Flaiker15:00
tobylaneIf you think you'll be removing drives you could put grub on both15:00
tobylaneIf I was in your situation I'd partition off a large chunk of the hard drive as a media drive15:00
Flaikerwell, i have another two drives15:02
Flaikerfor programs and data15:02
Flaikerso thats not a concern15:02
Flaiker128gb ssd (windows), 1tb hdd (data), 1tb hdd (programs), 500gb hdd spare (-> to be ubuntu)15:03
CorrosiveEyeI have three kernels installed in my system. Is it safe to uninstall the kernel versions I'm not using? How can I do so safely?15:08
mintuhuh15:08
cfhowlettCorrosiveEye safe, but keep the current and immediate previous kernel is a best practice15:08
mintuh15:09
CorrosiveEyeWell the system updater (forgot what it's called) is complaining about not having enough space in /boot. I just wanted to know how I can safely make room in /boot for the update.15:10
apb1963TJ-: thank you.  From what I've ready, that list of targets generated  this won't keep track of which packages were explicitly installed by the user and which were installed as dependencies. This means that if you use this method to recreate your setup on another machine, apt won't be able to remove unneeded dependencies when you remove a given package.15:10
apb1963TJ-: Have you run into that at all?15:10
cfhowlettCorrosiveEye only 3 kernels?  that's not what's eating up your space15:10
apb1963s/ready/read15:11
apb1963s/this//15:11
CorrosiveEyecfhowlett, should I show the contents of /boot?15:13
TJ-apb1963: Yes, that can happen but when I'm cloning I want identical package sets so it doesn't worry me15:13
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tobylaneI just repaired grub per instructions, i have a working ubuntu installation and working grub, but they don't work together15:13
TJ-apb1963: otherwise, parse "/var/log/apt/history*" and extract the primary packages into a list similar to the output of --get-selections15:14
MonkeyDust CorrosiveEye paste this line in a terminal, i hope it's useful     find / -size +1G -exec ls -lh {} \; 2>/dev/null15:14
apb1963TJ-: ok fair enough.  I'm unsure as to what I want... other than zero problems :)15:14
varunendraCorrosiveEye, MonkeyDust another way - "du -h | sort -h"15:14
varunendraofcourse in /boot15:15
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CorrosiveEyeLooks like I'm short 5M for the installation. Should I move a directory from /boot to a temporary location and move it back after the installation?15:17
CorrosiveEyethe update*15:17
varunendraCorrosiveEye, it is always a good idea to have at least 200 MB or more space in /boot and root (/)15:18
apb1963TJ-: that's pretty painful... requires lots of cleanup :(15:18
CorrosiveEye/boot has 200MB allocated already15:18
varunendraCorrosiveEye, what is the size of you /boot partition? And why have you kept it separate?15:18
CorrosiveEyei mean 24415:18
varunendraCorrosiveEye, what kind of update is that? Only kernel images/headers go in there, plus initramfs which shouldn't be too large15:19
mintuhuh15:19
varunendraCorrosiveEye, do you have a separate /boot partition or just the root (/) ?15:19
CorrosiveEyevarunendra, It's a separate partition15:20
mintuh15:20
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pumiceI am running xubuntu, and having a difficult time installing adobe flash so I can play farmville, how do I install the flash requirements?15:20
tracyonehi everyone,I install nautilus3 in Lubuntu14.04,and set the default filemanger to nautilus,after restart ,there is nothing in desktop,and i can't create file in my desktop15:20
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varunendraCorrosiveEye, it should be interesting to see the updates you are going to get. Can you pastebin it here please?15:21
tobylaneSo, this dodgy grub that doesn't like ubuntu, when I like the liveusb to boot into that installed ubuntu it sends me to initramfs15:21
tobylane*when i use15:21
mintuhuh15:21
cew_smarthai15:22
CorrosiveEyevarunendra, I'm using the GUI updater. How can I get the list of updates in in plain text?15:22
varunendraCorrosiveEye, "sudo apt-get update" and/or "sudo apt-get upgrade" I guess.15:23
tracyone:'(15:23
mintuhuh15:23
tobylaneI'm starting to think grub doesn't like this laptop15:24
tobylaneAnd nor lilo15:24
CorrosiveEyethis is the output from `sudo apt-get upgrade` http://pastebin.com/w5neBez315:25
CorrosiveEyevarunendra, ^15:25
bekksCorrosiveEye: so run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade15:26
joe-w-bimedinaI was hoping someone could help me with this, tracker-store is eating alot of CPU, and I was wondering if there was a way to make it run only when pc is idle15:26
varunendraCorrosiveEye, I heard about some bug with dist-upgrade, but probably that's the equivalent of the GUI updater15:26
varunendras/heard/read(at UF)15:27
tobylanejoe depends on your definition of idle, you can give it low priority15:27
apb1963TJ-: Have you tried aptitude search '~i!~M' -F '%p'  ??  I don't know if it's any different?  Yet another variation I found was dpkg -l  .... I'm getting a headache trying to figure out how they differ from each other and whatyou suggested.15:27
minthuHuHuhuhuhhUHUHUuh15:27
* varunendra hands mint a bottle of cough-syrup15:28
CorrosiveEyeI guess to avoid this problem in the future we need to allocate more disk space for /boot?15:28
varunendraCorrosiveEye, of course :) What is the current size by the way?15:28
mintvarunendra: lol15:28
CorrosiveEyevarunendra, 244MB by default15:28
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CorrosiveEyeI let the Ubuntu Installer run it's own course15:29
joe-w-bimedinaI meant like with screensaver how it only comes on when you are not using pc15:29
varunendraCorrosiveEye, unless you have some specific reason to keep it separate, why don't you keep it all in '/'?15:29
tobylaneJoe I guess you could programatically start a timer after each second of activity15:30
varunendraCorrosiveEye, you mean the installer itself chose that size for /boot? :o15:30
CorrosiveEyevarunendra, I think EFI systems need a separate /boot partition?15:30
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CorrosiveEyeyes varunendra15:30
varunendraCorrosiveEye, separate yes, but probably it is a "UEFI" or "EFI" partition, not sure about that though.15:31
CorrosiveEyevarunendra, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_Guide#Partition_scheme15:31
joe-w-bimedinaand then would i run tracker on my own instead of letting it run on auto, not sure how to decide  when it would need to be run, but if I can run it once a night that would be good15:32
CorrosiveEyevarunendra, I also remember on my arch system, mounting the EFI partition to /boot.15:32
varunendraCorrosiveEye, yup, it is a separate EFI partition, not /boot. The kernel images, initramfs etc. don't go in it.15:33
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CorrosiveEyeahhh I see15:33
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bekksCorrosiveEye: EFI systems need a separate /boot/efi15:34
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apb1963is there a tool that will give me a split screen diff of two (or three) files?15:34
hanshi guys15:35
apb1963so I can compare the differences between multiple files side by side?15:35
varunendraCorrosiveEye, on ubuntu forums, I have seen even 2 GB /boot partitions getting short of space over time (super long time actually) :p15:35
svetlanaapb1963: vim -diff, or kdiff315:35
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apb1963svetlana: thank you!15:35
varunendraapb1963, is the "diff" command not sufficient for your need?15:35
svetlananot if it is in 1 column15:36
tobylaneWith grub install whats the difference between root and boot directories?15:36
apb1963varunendra: no, I can't really tell what it's doing15:36
CorrosiveEyevarunendra, a good solution would be to move non-critical files to / then, right?15:36
CorrosiveEyethen we can write a utility that manages the /boot partition in that way.15:36
varunendrasvetlana, I remember having used it with some option to show results side-by-side :)15:36
varunendraCorrosiveEye, I personally prefer keeping everything in one giant '/' - depends on usage and personal preference15:37
varunendrasvetlana, the -y option to diff :D15:38
tobylaneJust did a third thing that supposedly fixes grub, but it still sends me to grub terminal15:40
CorrosiveEyevanunendra, True, but since Ubuntu creates a separate /boot partition by default... there should be a way to automatically manage this problem since it's occurrence is inevitable. What do you think?15:40
cew_smartwhat is from indonesia15:40
tobylaneYep, done all the options listed15:41
CorrosiveEyeand it renders the GUI updater useless. That's a big problem for non-power users, no?15:41
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svetlanaapb1963, <varunendra> svetlana, the -y option to diff :D15:41
TJ-apb1963: answer to getting the package list out of history.logs: "zcat -f /var/log/apt/history.log* | awk '/^Commandline/{split($0,P," ");for(i in P) if(i>3) if(substr(P[i],0,1)!="-") if(P[i]!="install") print P[i];}' "15:41
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apb1963svetlana: varunendra: thank you15:42
varunendranp :)15:42
svetlana:)15:42
apb1963TJ-: thank you.  But, doesn't it strike you as... insane, that one has to go through all that pain to find a simple list of explictly installed packages?15:43
varunendraCorrosiveEye, there are a few more things in my "wishlist" for ubuntu. Unfortunately, no system is perfect, we do need additional tools to do certain things.15:43
varunendratools or extra work.. *15:43
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apb1963someone went to the trouble of writing "apt-mark showmanual"  ... yet it fails to do its intended purpose.15:44
zykotick9CorrosiveEye: just sayin' my /boot currently uses 11M of 228M, i remove old kernels...15:44
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apb1963TJ-: I do appreciate the effort... here's what it produced: http://paste.ubuntu.com/782028215:48
CorrosiveEyethanks for the help guys15:50
varunendraapb1963, are you aware of the "dpkg --get-selections" method?15:51
TJ-apb1963: weird, it shouldn't have include the "--reinstall"15:52
TJ-apb1963: you could use 'debfoster --show-keepers" ... after you've built its database15:52
varunendraapb1963, that is the simpler method to get the list of installed packages, but is possible on a running system. What TJ- suggested is a method to extract that list from logs (useful on broken, unbootable installs)15:53
TJ-varunendra: We're trying to avoid --get-selections and only list the 'keeper' packages - the ones that cause others to be installed, so that the dependency graph is maintained correctly.15:54
varunendraTJ-, isn't there a way to "ignore" the already installed packages when using "--set-selections"?15:55
TJ-varunendra: That's not what apb1963 is trying to achieve. The aim is to extract the 'keepers' on the installed system and install them on the target, so that the *target* builds the correct dependency graph. Using --get-selections > --set-selections doesn't do that15:58
sasukehi guys, can anybody help me. I was unable to connect to my bluetooth device. this is what i'm seeing in log files http://pastebin.com/YVxuRBXe. Please help me out15:58
varunendraTJ-, yes I understand the difference. I just believe (and have experienced once) that the dependency graph remains the same unless some package is critically changed in new versions. The list generated by --get-selections doesn't contain versions, only names, so versions are not an issue while installing the list on a newer system, they are automatically adapted as per new system.16:03
TJ-sasuke: "bluetooth hci0: firmware: intel/ibt-hw-37.7.bseq will not be loaded" ... looks like the system may need additional firmware loading into the bluetooth chipset16:04
softballsTJ-: tnx for all the help last night :)16:05
TJ-softballs: Hey! it was fun wasn't it?16:06
TJ-softballs: nothing like some decent hacking16:06
softballstj sure was, didn't think we were gonna get those last things done but we did :916:06
cjk116:09
softballsTJ-: gonna move the code to my aws server today and see if it runs just as fine there, it should though16:09
TJ-softballs: it'd make sense for you to maintain it and your changes as they happen in a git repository, with a public remote on - say - github. That way others can contribute changes and track each change you make16:11
softballsTJ-: haven't ever used git, id have to read up on it16:11
basketballhow do i setup adobe flash player and shockwave in chrome correctly16:12
bkuberek_hello16:12
bkuberek_I used the command chsh to change my shell, but it takes a few hours for it to actually work16:13
bkuberek_Is there any cache that needs to be cleared or updated?16:13
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bkuberek_I see the right shell in /etc/passwd but my env still shows the old SHELL16:14
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donkey_boyburn all jews in oven16:16
donkey_boydeath to infidels16:16
donkey_boygod bless allah16:16
donkey_boyi throw stones to jews16:16
donkey_boymy stones crush israeli tanks16:16
donkey_boyallahu akhbar16:16
donkey_boydeath to infidels16:16
donkey_boyDEATH TO INFIDELS16:17
donkey_boyALLAHU AKHBAR16:17
donkey_boyDEATH TO JEWS16:17
donkey_boyonly muslims have a right to live16:17
cew_smartcara mainnya gimana :(16:17
Synchunk!ops donkey_boy16:17
SynchunkWhoops, I don't think this is working here. :<16:18
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optrustySomebody got banned16:25
ikoniaoptrusty: you don't need to comment on it16:25
optrustyok16:25
optrustyI wont next time16:25
basketballhow do i setup adobe flash player and shockwave in chrome correctly16:26
OerHeksbasketball, not, chrome has buildin shockwave flash.16:27
optrustybasketball: I think chrominum16:28
basketballWhen i need to use shockwave it says a plug-in (Shockwave Flash) isnt responding16:29
basketballhow do i fix it16:29
basketballgoogle chrome16:29
basketballnot chromimum16:29
OerHeksbasketball, on what site? facebook games?16:29
optrustyOh...16:29
OerHeksknown issue16:29
basketballpretty much all sites\16:29
OerHeksthe other solution for firefox an perhaps chromium too, is pepperflash16:30
OerHeksit is all on the page !flash16:31
reisio"pepperflash" is what comes with chrome16:31
optrustyU might need OpenJDK for youtube16:31
reisioI doubt you need java for youtube16:31
OerHeksah right https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/16:31
basketballOerHeks,  it also doesnt work here http://www.itma.vt.edu/tech/shockwave.htm16:32
basketballi dont see either animation16:32
OerHeksi see no movie, only flashanimation ( with chrome )16:33
basketballOerHeks,  i dont see the flash animation16:33
OerHeksmozilla too, bad luck, not working.16:35
basketballOerHeks,  how can i disable peperflash16:35
OerHeksuse chromium if you want to try a different flash16:38
OerHeksor firefox, but that one does not give the movie either.16:38
bravelegHi everybody! I've installed ubuntu 14.04+unity recently and now I want to switch to gnome. Is there any specific way to do it so system won't crush or it is enough to just install gnome via software manager?16:38
reisio!notunity16:39
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 and higher use the !Unity desktop environment by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown.16:39
reisiobraveleg: gnome-shell16:39
reisioUnity is mostly GNOME already, you see16:39
reisioonly the very top part has been replaced16:39
OerHeksbraveleg, install it as you say, and you can change desktop when you logout.16:40
bravelegOk, thanks a lot.16:40
OerHekshave fun :-)16:40
basketballOerHeks,  how do i have have terminhal auto cd back to home when closed16:41
reisiobasketball: when closed?16:41
basketballwhen i close the terminal16:41
reisiowhen you close the terminal, you can't see where it is, it doesn't matter16:42
basketballso the next time i open the terminal it is at the home directory16:42
reisiobasketball: it isn't at the home directory when you open it?16:42
basketballno it is on the last used16:42
reisiobasketball: reallllyyyy16:42
reisiobasketball: this is gnome-terminal?16:42
bsdbanditgood  afternoon after patching my ubuntu 10 box i keep get the following when running ifconfig16:43
bsdbanditeth0_rename16:43
HEROnymoushey folks... just did an hwe update on my wife's machine which was installed with 12.04.4 to get it up to the -trusty packages.  it's hanging on boot with kdm running but the X server not, so it's looking like kdm is having trouble getting X up and running but not erroring out gracefully (rather just sitting there.)  anyone seen this before?16:43
basketballi installed the pantheon desktop enviroment16:43
bsdbandithow did i fix this16:43
reisiobasketball: what's that? :p16:44
OerHeksbasketball no idea16:44
basketballthe enviroment elementary os uses16:44
reisioHEROnymous: grep XX /var/log/Xorg*16:44
reisiobasketball: ah, that's just gnome still, IIRC16:44
HEROnymousreisio, nada16:45
reisioHEROnymous: you're trying to start KDE?16:45
bravelegHm, how do you, guys, think - which default display manager should I pick: gdm or lightdm?16:45
HEROnymouswell, this is prior to user login, but the system is setup to use kdm yes16:45
MonkeyDustHEROnymous  the one you like most and/or suits your needs16:46
reisiobasketball: talk to #elementary16:46
reisiobraveleg: lightdm is the default, IIRC, and perfectly fine16:46
reisioalthough if you're using Unity or GNOME, you will have most of what makes gdm heavier than lightdm isntalled anyways16:46
reisioinstalled*16:46
bravelegOk, so lightdm it is, thanks.16:50
bravelegHm, by the way, how can I address a message to specific person in chat room?16:51
reisiobraveleg: specificperson: foo16:51
reisiobraveleg: but16:51
reisiobraveleg: you do it this way16:51
reisiobraveleg: type 'r', type 'e', type 'i', then press TAB16:52
reisioif it converts to 'reisio:', you're done, type a msg16:52
reisioif it doesn't, and you want 'reisio', hit TAB again16:52
reisiovoila, tab completion! Try it anywhere!16:52
OerHekscan do tricks in terminal too16:53
zubirOerHeks: have you tried pipes.sh?16:54
bravelegreisio, aha! thanks =)16:54
reisiobraveleg: right, BUT16:55
reisiobraveleg: go into prefs and change that comma to a colon :p16:55
reisioCONFORM!16:55
bravelegreisio: thanks again =)16:55
reisio:D16:56
reisiobraveleg: also, just below the colon option16:56
reisiobraveleg: sort by: last-spoke order16:56
reisiois very much what you want16:56
reisioif it's not set to that already16:56
OerHekszubir, nope, never heard of it.16:57
elllhello, can I remove compiz on ubuntu 14.04 unity16:57
reisioelll: yup16:57
reisioelll: probably want to replace it with something else, though16:57
elllno just to remove it so it dont be heavy on my processors16:58
reisioyou can remove it, but compiz is your window manager16:58
reisioyou most likely want a window manager16:58
elllwhat other window manager can I use with unity16:59
reisiothere might still be a third party package for 'unity-2d', I don't know how tedious it is to install16:59
varunendraelll, reisio, Unity depends on compiz, so you can't remove it while using Unity (well, you can, but that will break Unity)16:59
reisioelll: mmm, well with Unity proper, you can probably only use compiz16:59
bornagaintexanany recommendations on the best tutorial for beginners?16:59
reisioelll: but you could install gnome-shell and use mutter16:59
reisioor openbox, etc.16:59
reisiobornagaintexan: regarding?16:59
basketballreisio, how do you use ctcp16:59
bornagaintexanpython17:00
elllgnome shell is the new gnome wright17:00
cfhowlett!python|bornagaintexan17:00
ubottubornagaintexan: python is a popular Object Oriented scripting language included in Ubuntu. For more on Python please see http://www.python.org/ or #python17:00
elllwhat about unity 2d17:00
elllwhat is that17:00
bornagaintexanyes im sorry, i thought i was typing in that channel17:00
reisioelll: it's something that looks a lot like unity, but is unaccelerated, so faster17:00
reisiobut it's also not as well maintained, so it could be a bear to install17:01
reisiosomething else that can look A LOT like Unity is Xfce, with minimal reconfiguration17:01
reisioand it's much lighter17:01
bravelegreisio: Yep, it is set to last-spoke by default17:01
basketballreisio, how do you use ctcp17:02
bornagaintexanok, i do have a question for this channel though17:02
reisiobasketball: /ctcp basketball version17:02
elllhow can i install that unity 2d reisio17:02
reisiobornagaintexan: prove it!17:02
reisiobraveleg: also, in general, /help ctcp17:02
reisiobraveleg: /help suspectedcommand17:02
bornagaintexani'm ready to delete windows of this comp because I am loving ubuntu... is there any way i can transfer my important files from my windows platform to ubuntu?17:02
daftykinsbornagaintexan: yes, copy and paste17:03
bornagaintexansweet.17:03
reisioelll: what version of ubuntu are you using?17:03
reisiobornagaintexan: well, I'd use rsync, but copy & paste works, too17:03
elll14.0417:03
bravelegreisio: Thanks.17:03
bornagaintexani do not have a windows cd so once i delete it there is no going back for me.. is there any reason i should not do this?17:04
zubirpossibly software issues17:04
reisioelll: not sure there are binaries for 14.0417:04
reisioelll: if you want something lighter, I'd try Xfce17:04
cfhowlettbornagaintexan if you're unsure, dual boot instead.17:04
reisiobornagaintexan: IME going back is not worth doing :)17:05
reisiobornagaintexan: is it a laptop?17:05
elllok thank you :) have a nice day17:05
bornagaintexanyes its a laptop17:05
reisiobornagaintexan: does it have a rescue/recovery partition?17:05
bornagaintexanyes17:05
reisiobornagaintexan: well that's your install image for Windows17:06
reisiobornagaintexan: you can either leave that, or you can even back it up and delete it as well17:06
bravelegreisio: May I test ctcp message on you?17:06
reisiobraveleg: why not17:06
bornagaintexanthank you for being so helpful17:06
bravelegCTCP reisio VERSION17:06
reisiobraveleg: /ctcp reisio version17:07
bravelegreisio: aha, got it =)17:07
reisio:)17:07
reisiousually my version information is fake17:07
reisiobut ATM it's not :p17:07
bravelegreisio: thanks a lot again.17:08
reisiobornagaintexan: pretty decent instructions for backing up the partition layout / mbr / partition/s over here http://mark.koli.ch/howto-whole-disk-backups-with-dd-gzip-and-p7zip17:08
reisiobornagaintexan: it's not really worth it to backup everything with dd, if you have a recovery image, just back up that one 3-4 GB probably partition, the partition layout, and the mbr17:09
zubirOerHeks: look it up on github, it's a shell script that does a nice "pipes" animation in terminal17:13
zubirusing the pipe characters17:13
zubirOerheks: http://github.com/livibetter/pipes.sh17:14
apb1963TJ-: I've been reading up on debfoster here... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24403  I'm not confident I can use it correctly and am afraid I'll end up screwing it up.17:15
addyvarunendra: Hi Varun, I hope you would be a little free to help me out with my problem of missing network icons.17:15
TJ-apb1963: I tested it here, it was perfect. I first built its database with "sudo debfoster --mark-only" and then simply held down the "Y" key to accept all the packages until it terminated:)17:16
TJ-apb1963: Then I just did "sudo debfoster --show-keepers"17:16
varunendraaddy, I posted on your thread, so it is in my search results now. Please post the current status as asked there.17:17
HEROnymousso the issue with X not starting is that it couldn't find any display drivers.  trying to jockey-text -e the nvidia driver now.17:18
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apb1963TJ-: I ran debfoster -q ... that forces a Y to build the database...  first problem is that the post talks about keeping "ubuntu-base" and it shows a list of 4 packages.... I have over 283... and ubuntu-base is not in it.17:20
TJ-apb1963: I didn't spot that '-q' answered Y! I just saw the "quiet"17:22
apb1963TJ-: As is typical, the man page is less than clear on its usage.... it's why I read the post.... which was kind of overwhelming... but more informative.  man page doesn't say enough.. the post says too much.17:23
TJ-apb1963: I did "debfoster --help" but it only says "Silently build keeper file"17:23
apb1963TJ-: well, when you know what it means, it's clear  :)17:24
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varunendraaddy, time to leave now, I'll check your reply on the thread in the morning .. <yaawwn>17:25
aboudreaultemm, if I have LVM Logical Volume --> luks encrypted -> ext4......... Can I do a live resize with that? (enlarging)17:25
Guest94812test17:26
TJ-apb1963: for me I see "debfoster --show-k | grep '^  ' | tr -d "\n" | wc -w" => 18617:26
apb1963TJ-: I do have a kdebase-runtime-dbg and a kdebase-workspace-dbg but (other than libreoffice-base)... there are no other base packages.  So I'm concerned.17:26
TJ-apb1963: so mine is showing 186 packages17:27
TJ-apb1963: Sounds *about* correct I'd say17:27
apb1963I just opened up /var/lib/debfoster/keepers and counted :)17:27
TJ-apb1963: I reran "sudo debfoster --quiet --mark-only" and the result is still 186 packages, which suggests there's something amiss on your source installation17:29
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apb1963TJ-: why?17:29
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TJ-apb1963: Well unless you only did the bare bones install... I assumed it was run on a well-used system17:30
apb1963TJ-: I have 283 packages according to debfoster17:30
apb1963TJ-: do you have ubuntu-base in there?17:32
TJ-apb1963: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7820730/17:32
TJ-apb1963: Sorry! I misread your 283 packages as 2 !!17:33
TJ-apb1963: 283 sounds about correct :)17:33
apb1963TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7820739/17:34
TJ-apb1963: That looks good17:35
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Aki-ThinkpadAny Ubuntu users programming " pair programming "?17:39
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apb1963TJ-: yeah, I think I'm getting a better handle.  So, basically I'd do cat /var/lib/debfoster/keepers | xargs apt-get  install ?17:40
noianohello17:41
Guest76949I have a problem getting rid of / cleaning up after a partial installation of wine. I am running BleachBit (root).  It tells me that dpkg comes back with a code 1 during deep scan. It seems to tell me it has deleted wine1.6, but there is still a problem with dependancies with regards to wine or wine1.6.  While it is wine that is messing things up, I am asking how to repair the broken dependancies17:42
FranticHey guys, I've installed Ubuntu on a new desktop Dell T5610 machine, Intel c602 chipset, only to find out that the sound works at very poor quality. When I put my headphones in the jack at the back, it's absolutely terrible quality, when I plug them in the jack on the front of the case, it's better, but still bad17:42
FranticAny idea how I might debug something like this?17:43
noianoI have an annoying problem: whenever I close the lid or the powersave mode turns the my laptop's screen off I cannot turn it back ok by pressing a key or moving the mouse ... any idea?!17:43
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FranticWhat's even sarcastic, is that while I googled Dell T5610 sound issue, I actually found the Ubuntu certified page for that model on ubuntu.com :|17:44
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mojtabaHi, I am going to try another shell environment. Do you know which one is better or what are the options? (csh? tcsh? fish? ...)17:44
FranticAny ideas anyone?17:44
TJ-apb1963: looks like it, yes17:45
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TJ-mojach: There is no "better"17:47
TJ-mojtaba:  There is no "better"17:47
mojtabaTJ-: I am going to choose one for learning, but I have no idea which one is more popular.17:48
TJ-mojtaba: what about the one that is installed and used by default on Ubuntu?17:48
OerHeksFrantic, i use Clementine, with build-in equaliser makes a huge difference17:48
meganerdmojtaba: bash is probably most popular, csh and zsh each have their followings17:48
FranticOerHeks: I'll google it, dunno what Clementine is17:49
meganerdmojtaba: bash is also installed on just about every Linux machine you will find17:49
OerHeks!info clementine17:49
ubottuclementine (source: clementine): modern music player and library organizer. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0+dfsg-2build1 (trusty), package size 3802 kB, installed size 14410 kB17:49
FranticOerHeks: ergh, that's a music player17:49
meganerdFrantic: it is an awesome music app, I am using it right now :)17:49
FranticWth17:49
Franticmy sound card driver is screwed, not the music player17:49
FranticSo if I had usable sound on the machine, I could use Clementine to listen to music on it, got it, but, how do I get usable sound on the machine?17:50
apb1963TJ-: what kind of still bugs me is I'm pretty sure I didn't install "gnome-common"... which makes me wonder what else is in that list that I don't need (or want).17:54
OerHeksFrantic, bad sound at the back, maybe it is just line out. maybe switchable. poor sound front, i keep it up equaliser.17:55
TJ-apb1963: Does "apt-cache rdepends gnome-common" help?17:55
FranticOerHeks: bad sound at the front as well, just better than the back17:56
apb1963TJ-: yeah but see... that means we're back to dependencies that were installed... not top-level packages.17:57
TJ-apb1963: Well, did you at one time install some other package that you subsequently removed, but which wouldn't cause removal of gnome-common? Because that would leave gnome-common at the top of a 'tree'17:58
apb1963TJ-: wouldn't cause removal?  why wouldn't it?  Unless it wasn't packaged properly.17:59
TJ-apb1963: If package A depends on package B, then "install A" also does "install B", but "remove A" doesn't cause "remove B"... an "autoremove" will do however18:01
Octavian95hi all can someone please tell me how to uninstall Wiconnect and ap-hotspot from ubuntu 12.04?18:02
apb1963TJ-: so that implies if I do an autoremove right now.... it would clean it out, yes?18:02
TJ-apb1963: possibly, unless it is flagged with a Priority or Essential18:03
OerHeksOctavian95, how did you install those 2 ?18:03
Octavian95for wiconnect i got some .deb file and for ap-hotspot i followed a tutorial which involves terminal commands18:04
MonkeyDust Octavian95 "some.deb file" doesnt sound too reliable18:05
OerHekswiconnect should be removable in softwarecenter, the second one needs probably something else18:05
user39202How to solve problems with unity interface?  >>  http://www.img42.com/yqCBL+18:06
Octavian95wiconnect is not in software center i searched for it18:06
apb1963TJ-: I don't know... how can I check that?18:06
MonkeyDustuser39202  avoid such funny links and simply ask your questions here18:06
Octavian95this is where i got wiconnect: https://launchpad.net/wiconnect18:07
OerHeksOctavian95, search history in softwarecenter18:07
TJ-apb1963: "apt-cache show <package>" and look for the Priority and Essential fields18:08
Octavian95i found ap-hotspot in the history but not wiconnect18:08
OerHeksOctavian95, nice > "still built using dpkg, so not 100% ubuntu software center compliant"18:09
Octavian95what?18:09
OerHeksmaybe you can use dpkg to remove.18:09
MonkeyDust!find wiconnect18:09
ubottuPackage/file wiconnect does not exist in trusty18:10
OerHeksmaybe damage is done.18:10
apb1963Package: gnome-common18:10
apb1963Priority: optional18:10
apb1963gnome-common is an extension to autoconf, automake and libtool for the GNOME18:11
apb1963 environment and GNOME using applications.18:11
laspahrokay, this is a bit off topic.. but I'm needing a new router, as mine right now is giving me speeds <1MB/s18:11
laspahrsuggestions..? I have the Belkin N300 I believe18:11
Octavian95OerHeks, what is dpkg? and how do i use it to remove these 2 programs?18:12
MonkeyDustlaspahr  try #ubuntu-offtopic18:12
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OerHeksOctavian95, for the second package i cannor tell18:12
OerHekscannot *18:12
OerHeksOctavian95, for the first one > dpkg -r <package>.deb18:12
apb1963TJ-: That might possibly explain it... since I've been building various packages... what's odd is that it should pull in gnome when in fact i'm using kde...  yes?18:13
TJ-apb1963: I was going to ask you that, since one of the reverse dependencies is "gnome-core-devel"18:14
Jeffrey_flaspahr: Amazon or ebay - DD-WRT Routers, cuz they are powered by Linux.   Never had an issue.18:14
hikaruBGhi guys18:14
OerHeksi am wrong, without .deb18:14
TJ-apb1963: gnome applications will pull in the gnome/gtk dependencies too18:14
hikaruBGhas anyone playes with NFC Card Reader ACS122U ?18:14
laspahrJeffrey_f: DD-WRT?18:14
hikaruBGhas anyone played with NFC Card Reader ACS122U ?18:14
laspahrwhy that in particular?18:14
hikaruBGI have problems with pne, and will appreciate any help18:14
apb1963TJ-: but I never explicitly install gnome apps... or are you saying gtk is gnome based?  I guess it is, isn't it.18:15
hikaruBGwhen I plugged the card reader to the USB Port it had a red indicator lit18:16
hikaruBGthen I have installed the drivers18:16
Guest42743where apt-get installs installed? I want to choose it as my standard way to open a certain type of file...18:16
hikaruBGand the red LED Indication is no more18:16
hikaruBGanyone?18:16
apb1963TJ-:  I think i'm going to stop trying to understand all 283 packages, remove most of the kernels from the list (working from a copy for the chroot), a handful of other obvious things (like xfce-desktop and similar) and then pull the trigger.18:18
apb1963otherwise i'll be at this for the next year18:18
FranticI've installed Ubuntu on a new desktop Dell T5610 machine, Intel c602 chipset, only to find out that the sound works at very poor quality. When I put my headphones in the jack at the back, it's absolutely terrible quality, when I plug them in the jack on the front of the case, it's slightly better, but still quite bad, any idea how I might debug this?18:19
user39202Guest42743:   Packages are stored in /var/cache/apt/archives.    Most packages install somewhere in /usr18:21
daftykinsFrantic: have you identified the codec in use and googles for issues regarding them specifically?18:22
daftykinsFrantic: googling, i see there are at least two possible devices for that model18:22
Franticdaftykins: what do you mean by codec?18:23
daftykinsFrantic: audio chip18:23
FranticI've tried to see what driver the card was using, and it was intel HDA audio18:23
Frantic(from lspci)18:24
Franticdaftykins: Is that what you mean?18:24
daftykinsFrantic: no, the specific device18:24
Franticoh, I haven't written it down, and I'm not near the machine now18:25
Guest42743How do I reach the /usr/ folder from a gui?18:25
alexbligh1is there a metapackage constituting everything that would be installed in a base trusty server install? I have an install which when peculiar and is missing lots of packages. I don't particularly want to redo.18:25
Franticdaftykins: but once I do, what should I do? what would I be looking for?18:26
apb1963TJ-: thank you for all the help.  I'm going to deal with life for a while and then come back to this later.  Have a look at "blueprint" and "aptik" and see if you think those might be viable options.18:27
daftykinsFrantic: oh right... well armed with knowing the hardware you can search online more appropriately.18:27
eeeehow can i remove applications from the volume menu ?18:27
Guest42743How do I choose another nickname in xchat?18:27
eeeeGuest42743: /nick <nickname>18:27
daftykinsand pick a nickname which isn't registered18:27
daftykinsfor further questions, ask in #freenode as this is not IRC support18:28
Franticdaftykins: I've tried searching for audio issues, audio issues t5610, audio issues intel c602, but found nothing :(18:29
Franticanyway, I'll try again with the audio chipset18:30
Emrick_cchiyas!! may i please use some help??18:30
Franticthanks :)18:30
apb1963TJ-: https://github.com/devstructure/blueprint18:30
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daftykinsFrantic: yes, because one is a general laptop model # and one is a chipset - not hugely relevant. anyway, see how you get on.18:31
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Guest76949I'm back.  Any idea as to how to clean out the partial wine / wine1.6 installation that is messing the rest up?18:31
MonkeyDustGuest76949  what have you tried so far and what went wrong?18:35
Guest76949MonkeyDust: I had tried to install wine.  It hung.  I have tried through synaptic to get rid of wine and wine1.6 - to no avail. I used sudo dpkg --configure -a ... no better.  I am trying bleachbit to get rid of it.18:37
MonkeyDustGuest76949  try     sudo apt-get purge wine18:38
MonkeyDustGuest76949  or even     sudo apt-get purge wine*18:38
Guest76949MonkeyDust: Broken something, dependency problems.  With bleachbit (root) or not root, I get a message about /use.bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)18:38
Guest76949I think I have tried that, too, but I'm willing to try again18:38
MonkeyDustGuest76949  try     sudo apt-get autoremove18:39
Guest76949MonkeyDust: I can not install things, but I can't remove things, even as sudo18:39
Guest76949I'm waiting for my terminal to try the three things you just suggested18:40
bigbrovarHi guys.. am a sysadmin working for a university where ubuntu is deployed on all our staff and student machines. we are currently on Ubuntu 10.04 on all administrative desktops and computer labs.. but we are looking to upgrade to ubuntu 14.04 (with unity which is great btw) however we need to adjust some of the user settings for unity and make this adjustments applicable for all users. Any idea how best to achieve this?18:41
MonkeyDustbigbrovar  in short, a deployment on all workstations?18:42
bigbrovarMonkeyDust, exactly..18:43
bigbrovarMonkeyDust, we already use FOG for mass deployment which works good.. Home directories are hosted on NFS and authentication is done via ldap (works like a charm)18:44
Guest76949MonkeyDust: wine not installed, so not removed. 3 not fully installed or removed.   Error processing package wine1.6-amd64/ wine1.6-i386 depends on wine1.6any18:44
laspahrhi, I'm back again.. I'm looking at the Linksys EA6100 but it says it's only compatible with Windows and Mac, nothing about Linux?18:45
daftykinsbigbrovar: ouch, you've been running EOL for that long?18:45
Guest76949MonkeyDust: And all that from purge wine.  I'm waiting for the verbose from purge wine*18:46
MonkeyDustGuest76949  then focus on "wine1.6" in bleechbit... tip: ubuntu-tweak has a nice janito, too (not in the repos, get it here http://ubuntu-tweak.com/ )18:47
MonkeyDustjanitor*18:47
bigbrovardaftykins, when u have an enterprise setup that works.. upgrade is always something u don't do in a wimp.18:47
Guest76949MonkeyDust: Also, clamtk tells me that I have 30+ threats, but I am never able to delete or quarantine the threats18:48
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daftykinsbigbrovar: funding then :)18:48
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Guest76949MonkeyDust: In bleachbit, I get a message each time "E: Sub-process /use/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" and Delete 856.1 kb /var/cache/apt/archives/wine1.6 ..."18:50
bigbrovardaftykins, yes there is the funding issue.. we have to upgrade the ram of all systems from 1gb to at least 4gb18:50
Octavian95how do i uninstall ap-hotspot from ubuntu 12.04? i got it from here: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/06/how-to-set-up-wireless-hotspot-access.html18:51
laspahrdo you think that the router would work with linux (or at least Ubuntu?)18:51
Guest76949laspahr: Ubuntu is a "flavor" of linux18:52
zubirOctavian95: try doing "dpkg --get-selections | grep hotspot"18:52
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daftykinsOctavian95: sudo apt-get remove --purge aphotspot18:52
zubiror that ^^18:53
daftykinsOctavian95: in future please note that we do not support PPAs18:53
laspahrGuest76949: No duh... but would it work?18:53
zubirif that's the package name18:53
Octavian95what does PPA mean?18:53
daftykinslaspahr: networking works on standards, of course it'll work18:53
daftykins!ppa | Octavian9518:53
ubottuOctavian95: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge18:53
daftykins^so basically i just did you a favour by helping with something unsupported. be careful of following guides found online18:54
Guest76949laspahr: Don't mean to be nit picky, but you seemed to say linux or ubuntu, as if they weren't basically the same thing.18:54
jerehello18:54
jerewhat does `cd ~/` mean?18:54
jeredoes this mean go to HOME?18:54
zubirjere: yes, your home directory18:55
cemotyz09change to home directory18:55
rypervenchejere: Just typing "cd" by itself will do the same18:55
Octavian95daftykins: thanks for the command, it worked18:56
Jeffrey_fcd $home will put you into your home folder18:57
Guest76949MonkeyDust: I'm trying to install the tweak thing you mentioned, but it takes ages to do... why, I don't know.  But why couldn't I mess around with synaptic and why wouldn't that fix the problem?18:58
Guest76949MonkeyDust: Btw, the installation of the tweak thing failed because wine1.6 is in a status "half-installed"18:59
Octavian95http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2235172 anyone?18:59
bozeI'm looking at tilda on launchpad.net and wondering why unicorn gets the point releases but trusty doesn't?19:00
Dave77how do I install latest mplayer from testing repo?19:00
backjauerdo you use gstreamer ugly? or is this illegal?19:01
ikoniaunicorn isn't released....so it will change19:02
ikoniatrust is 5 years long term - so sticks at a version19:02
bozeikonia: so if I want to update tilda I have to clone it?19:03
Guest76949MonkeyDust: As it is, I tried to reinstall wine through Synaptic.  It failed because of wine1.619:03
ikoniaboze: clone it ?19:03
Guest76949MonkeyDust: What does this mean ... "E: Internal Error, No file name for wine1.6-amd64:amd64"19:04
bozeikonia: from the git repo if its open source. Was just wondering if there is a way to update the package/software when its released but trusty hasn't adopted it yet19:05
ikoniaboze: you'd etiher have to have a valid bug that warrented a package update, or build your own package19:05
acovrigWhen making a .desktop file, can I specify Path (working directory) to be ~/ (or /home/$USER)?19:06
Besogonhi every one! The network manager icon is not shown.. Ubuntu 14.04 does.. I don't know what to do now. starting nm-applet is not helping19:06
Besogonbut I still have internet19:06
newb901I just installed the "New Hardware support" for 12.04 and now I have no connection eth0 interface is gone, any advice?19:07
ikonianewb901: what "new hardware support" ?19:07
Guest76949Besogon: When you get the answer, please share with me19:07
newb901that is what my update manager told me19:07
user39202Guest76949:  Maybe reinstall wine1.6 using the force options,  then uninstall and purge it.19:07
rwwikonia: hardware enablement stack, i assume19:08
ikonianewb901: then ask him what he really installed19:08
newb901Yes the HWE19:08
ikoniarww: I'm not sure19:08
Guest76949user39202: can you give me the exact command to do the force?19:08
BesogonGuest76949: ok19:08
ikonianewb901: just boot back into the old kernel then19:08
ikonianewb901: select it from the grub menu19:08
Guest76949Besogon: thx19:08
newb901Ok, i'll give that a try19:09
zopsiOk let's give this another go. Does anyone know how to fix this issue? http://i.imgur.com/1n4cTQP.gif19:10
newb901ikonia: I'm back up now but does that mean I have to always use the previous kernel from now on?19:12
ikonianewb901: it means your card is not seen in your newer kernel, that could be for many reasons19:12
ikonianewb901: is there a reason you installed a newer kernel ?19:12
newb901ikonia: nope just to stay updated19:13
Sajakidebian aptitude lists latest xdebug as 2.2.3-2build1 but on xdebug site it reads 2.2.519:13
newb901ikonia: so in order to use the newer kernel I would need a new supported network card then, right?19:13
Sajakiis aptitude not uptodate ?19:14
ikonianewb901: unless you have a need for it, why do it ?19:14
ikonianewb901: ok, so just remove the hwe19:14
acovrigBecause this app creates files in the cwd, so I'm wondering if a 'cheap' workaround could be to mkdir /usr/share/<app>/prefs; chmod 777 ... then set the Path to /usr/share/<app>/prefs?19:15
newb901ikonia: I did it thinking it was prep from 14.04 but now I'm thinking my card might not be supported for that19:15
newb901ikonia: in any case, how do i remove hew?19:15
ikonianewb901: just remove the packages19:17
ikonianewb901: not sure why it's considered prep to you, the point is LTS -> LTS upgrade19:17
rwwSajaki: #debian for Debian issues, thanks19:18
newb901ikonia: would you know the name of the package by any chance?19:18
backjauerHow do I turn on sound on the 2nd screen in linux when using hdmi?19:18
ikonianewb901: its the kernel19:19
newb901ikonia: ah! ok, last thing would you recommend I remove that first before upgrading to 14.04?19:19
ikonianewb901: you should know the name of the meta package, you installed it19:19
ikonianewb901: yes19:19
Sajakium sorry it’s Ubuntu 14.04 LTS19:19
ikonianewb901: you cant upgrade to 14.04 yet though19:20
ikonianewb901: you need to wait for 14.04.119:20
Sajakiso in my ubuntu vagrant box aptitude lists latest xdebug as 2.2.3-2build1 but on xdebug site it reads 2.2.519:20
newb901ikonia: True I did install but I used the GUI update manager which just a button with 'install' on it so unaware of the package19:20
Dave77has anybody got a user account for avidemux?19:20
ikonia!info xdebug19:20
ubottuPackage xdebug does not exist in trusty19:20
Dave77(forum)19:20
ikoniaSajaki: you sure it's ubuntu19:21
r0hith_mHi guys which was the key to press during boot to show the options for grub19:21
ikoniaDave77: nothing to do with this channel.19:21
newb901ikonia: ok, i'll wait for .1 and figure out what package I need to remove...thanks!19:21
rww!info php5-xdebug19:21
ubottuphp5-xdebug (source: xdebug): Xdebug Module for PHP 5. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.3-2build1 (trusty), package size 233 kB, installed size 802 kB19:21
ikoniaruss_: nice19:21
ikoniaoops19:21
ikoniarww:19:21
rwwthat's the only xdbuggy thing i can find19:21
Dave77so how do I get somebody to a fix a problem in there software?19:21
ikoniaDave77: talk to them,19:21
Dave77it won't let me register for their forum..19:22
Dave77I want to use linux as desktop but its proving difficult19:22
ikoniaDave77: nothing to do with this channel19:22
Dave77so thats why people don't use linux as desktop then..19:22
r0hith_mright now my grub doesnt let me choose anythign it directly boots into latest kernel.. i want to choose a previous kernel19:22
Dave77software doesn't work properly19:23
ikoniaDave77: ok19:23
backjauerHow do I turn on sound on the 2nd screen in linux when using hdmi?19:23
Dave77is there any software other than avidemux that can cut .ts video files?19:23
r0hith_mDave77,  may be convert to another format  ?19:24
r0hith_mI am not familier with that format19:24
r0hith_mlet me check19:24
ikoniaits raw dvd19:24
r0hith_mDave77, basically this is the info i got that they are just MPEG2 files19:26
r0hith_mso you can rename them to .mpeg19:26
SupaYoshiiOkay wth changed with the directory system of /easy-rsa on ubuntu 14.0419:27
r0hith_mand use with any other editor that supports mpeg19:27
paullusI'm using ubuntu 12.04 and I recently got a copy of 14.04 on a Linux magazine DVD.  Is it possible to upgrade my current version, or is it better to wipe everything and just install 14.04?19:27
Hilikusanyone using etckeeper here? i read it's supposed to set a cron job for daily commit but i don't see it. under which user is it supposed to be19:27
daftykinspaullus: backup, then clean would be the least painful yep19:28
paulluscool, thanks man  ;)19:28
r0hith_mpaullus, for upgradation you will need internet connection19:28
MonkeyDustpaullus  you may want to backup /etc too, for program settings19:29
daftykinspaullus: although 12.04.4 LTS is still good for a couple more years, so no huge reason to change if everything works for you19:29
paullusok, thanks, I will bear that in mind19:30
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Guest8351How do I force synaptic to uninstall wine and wine1.6?19:30
zubir_gay19:30
MonkeyDustGuest8351  what does this command say:    whereis wine19:32
Guest8351MonkeyDust: I typed the command, but it is slow the answer.  I'll share once I get feedback19:33
bodhi_zazenGuest8351, sudo apt-get purge wine* && rm -rf ~/.wine19:33
bodhi_zazenbe warned, that command will remove everything including config files and anything you installed in wine19:34
Guest8351MonkeyDust: wine: /usr/bin/wine /usr/bin/X11/wine /usr/share/wine19:34
Dave77is there any help information for ubuntu in a single downloadable document? (not a wiki)19:34
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bazhang!manual19:34
ubottuThe Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/19:34
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asdfooblaasdHi. I downloaded the ubuntu 14 iso and want to install it to my SSD from USB. I'm currently under windows. Can I use a tool like the Univeral USB Installer to install ubuntu from usb?19:35
asdfooblaasdAs far as I understood the universal usb installer will install ubuntu to this usb, not make it installable from the usb drive19:36
MonkeyDustGuest8351  try removing those folders19:36
daftykinsasdfooblaasd: no, it will make a LiveUSB out of said drive19:37
daftykinsasdfooblaasd: give it a go :)19:37
Guest8351do I put && between each directory?19:37
zubir_   19:37
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Guest8351MonkeyDust: do I put && between each directory?19:37
MonkeyDustGuest8351  if you're not sure, remove them one by one19:38
MonkeyDustGuest8351  the wine folders, not the part befor /wine19:38
Guest8351It iIt takes ages for each command19:39
AaraigathorHello, I am running Ubuntu 14.04 and accidentally deleted the file /etc/init/plymoth-upstart-bridge.conf19:40
MonkeyDustGuest8351  like so    sudo rm -r /usr/bin/wine/19:40
ikoniaerrr no19:40
AaraigathorCan someone give me the contents or a download location?19:40
Guest8351MonkeyDust: Ok19:40
ikoniathat should be removed via the package manager19:40
ikonianot using the rm command19:40
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MonkeyDustGuest8351  hold it now19:40
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daftykinsAaraigathor: if you use apt-file you can discover what package it was in and reinstall it - be warned it may take some time and bandwidth though19:42
Aaraigathordaftykins: How would I do that? Sorry, a bit of a rookie here. I figured I could just remake the file if I knew the contents, couldn't I?19:43
AaraigathorI know it was /etc/init/plymouth-upstart-bridge.conf19:43
r0hith_mMy wifi started to drop after few minutes .. Guess it is time to retire my poor Lenovo .. after 7 long years <319:44
daftykinsr0hith_m: i wouldn't19:44
asdfooblaasddaftykins: can I install ubuntu from a livecd?19:44
daftykinsasdfooblaasd: yes, or liveUSB as made from the Universal USB Installer under Windows as you just mentioned19:45
asdfooblaasdthanks, I will try this!19:45
daftykinsAaraigathor: yes, if some kind soul would post you the file - or if you booted a live session it might be on there19:45
Guest8351MonkeyDust: Now that I've removed the directories, am I clear to remove wine and or wine1.6?19:45
r0hith_mdaftykins, Speaker dead .. last time I broke the output audio line by accidentally droppoing laptop, then I was using bluetooth headset, 1 usb port broken other just works and third one is working fine19:46
MonkeyDustGuest8351  yes, try   sudo apt-get autoremove19:46
r0hith_mOnly thing that kept this laptop productive was my SSD upgrade19:46
AaraigathorIs there a kind soul on here who would post me the contents of /etc/init/plymouth-upstart-bridge.conf   ? Please19:46
daftykinsr0hith_m: ah, a war horse!19:46
Guest8351MonkeyDust: thanks.  If that doesn't work (I hope it does), will synaptic be my next best choice?19:47
MonkeyDustGuest8351  yes, residual config, i guess it's called19:47
Guest8351MonkeyDust: residual config?19:48
daftykinsAaraigathor: ah hang on i do have access to it, one moment19:49
MonkeyDustGuest8351  you'll see, in synaptic19:49
r0hith_mOne thing I  could love about this laptop is the keyboard .. it works sweet even now ... 7 years of coding and still it doesnt feel old :) I tried keyboard in my sisters laptop which is a new toshibha and it was like hell compared to my keyboard19:49
Aaraigathordaftykins: Thank you!19:49
Guest8351MonkeyDust: Haven't seen it yet and I've used synaptic.  Of course, I'm a n00b / novice ... with stupid questions19:50
Bashing-omGuest8351: Be aware, this is ubuntu-support; there are no stupid questions.19:51
Guest8351MonkeyDust: autoremove came back with dpkg and an error code of 119:51
Aaraigathordaftykins: I could only find old versions of the file contents through google searching, and I want to be sure the one I enter in is going to be the current19:52
Guest8351Bashing-om: I feel stupid ... I should understand things better ... so ... well, thx for understanding19:52
daftykinsAaraigathor: if you open a terminal then run "sudo -i", enter your password then run "curl http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=U7BrUSf6 > /etc/init/plymouth-upstart-bridge.conf" it will auto download my paste and save it down as that file19:52
daftykinsAaraigathor: normal view of the paste is available @ http://pastebin.com/U7BrUSf619:52
Bashing-omGuest8351: Time and effort will fix that condition.19:53
MonkeyDustGuest8351  i'm out of ideas, i'm sure someone else has other tips for you19:53
Guest8351Bashing-om: MonkeyDust: I found in status, but nothing checked abd bi wube19:54
Guest8351and no wine19:54
Aaraigathordaftykins : Thank you so much! I just did 'gksudo leafpad' copy and pasted the file contents and saved as /etc/init/plymouth-upstart-bridge.conf       That should work, right?19:54
eneconhow can I see what graphics card is my pc using ? ( I no nothing about terminals )19:55
Bashing-omGuest8351: : MonkeyDust I am just arriving to the party, what is the issue ? .19:55
daftykinsAaraigathor: sure, my suggestion is just more elegant as it grabs the post and pops it into the file straight away ;)19:55
eneconknow *19:55
astroduckHi! Months ago I changed login background setting in Ubuntu Tweak to "Same as Desktop Background". I was using 13.04 back then. Later I upgraded to 13.10 but can't seem to find those settings in ubuntu tweaks anymore. I tried this thread (http://askubuntu.com/questions/313526/changing-login-screen-wallpaper) but the wallpaper sets to the one I specified in gsettings but then changes to the desktop background19:56
astroduckin seconds.19:56
Bashing-omenecon: -> lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga , more info: sudo lshw -C display <- .19:56
Guest8351Bashing-om: I'm having issues with wine and wine1.6 and a partial installation of it19:56
Aaraigathordaftykins: Never knew you could do that before, thanks! Learn something new all the time. Really appreciate the help19:56
* daftykins tips his hat19:57
AaraigathorAnyone know a good program for ubuntu 14.04 to monitor hardware, mainly temperatures?19:57
eneconBashing-om it shows about subsystem , flag , memory , but nothing about my card19:58
Guest8351Bashing-om: Held broken packages. no way so far to fix them19:58
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Guest8351Bashing-om: Synaptic not successful so far19:59
trijntjeAaraigathor: xsensors19:59
eneconBashing-om , product: Park [Mobility Radeon HD 5430/5450/5470]19:59
enecon is that it ?19:59
MonkeyDustAaraigathor  install lm-sensors, then use this line:   watch -n 1 -d sensors19:59
AaraigathorThanks everyone! <320:00
Bashing-omGuest8351: Wine is not my forte, but, OK ..How did you install wine 1.6 ? From the repository OR PPA ?20:00
Guest8351Bashing-om: Ubuntu Software Center20:00
Guest8351What is a held broken package?  And how do I break the strangle hold on the package or how to fix the package?20:01
Bashing-omenecon: Yep; ATI card .. that second commnad will tell ya what driver is loaded in the "config" line.20:01
eneconBashing-om configuration: driver=fglrx_pci latency=0 | what does this mean ?20:02
Bashing-omGuest8351: , Good ! .. OK, what is the problem when issueing -> sudo apt-get remove wine <- ??20:02
Guest8351Bashing-om: Are you good at getting rid of things?20:02
eneconBashing-om I mean does this seem ok ?20:03
Ben64Guest8351: "aptitude search ~ahold" to list held packages20:03
backjauerIs crossside scripting as threat on linux?20:03
Bashing-omenecon: You are tunning a proprietary driver for the card.20:03
Bashing-omenecon:  tunning/running* .. yeahm should be good !20:04
eneconBashing-om ok ty20:04
Bashing-omGuest8351: Up to a point .. My failure presently is the ability to read the source code  -- slowly working on that .20:06
Bashing-omenecon: Does that answer the question, or do you have a graphics problem to be discussed ?20:07
Guest8351Bashing-om: wine is not installed, so not removed. Suggests apt-get -f install.  Then goes on to talk of wine1.6 with unmet dependencies.  wine1.6 i386, wine1.6 amd64 and recommandations for winbind and winetricks20:07
pr0tHi, something went wrong with my ubuntu uninstall after an upgrade now it won't boot, i get unknown filesystem and also my file systems is encrypted where the /boot is (i know dumb) but I need to fix this, what is the best way to do this?20:07
Pinkamena_Dany plugin for nautilus exists to show the last ~5 locations or somethins in the sidebar20:08
Pinkamena_Dlike a recently used20:08
eneconBashing-om well it seems to answered the question I made at least but I made this question cause there is a general problem. high temperatures  until automatic shutdown20:09
alison85rsync appears to be corrupting files on my phone. only happened since i updated to 14.04. anyone else having issues with rsync?20:10
TJ-pr0t: "/boot/" encrypted using LUKS?20:10
pr0twhat is LUKS?20:10
pr0tit was encrypted by the ubuntu install when I said yes20:11
Bashing-omGuest8351: There are any number of reasons a package may be help .. let's take Ben64's direction and look: -> dpkg --get-selections | grep hold < -. and go from there.20:11
TJ-pr0t: Linux Unified Key Setup20:11
pr0tnot sure what method ubuntu uses20:11
TJ-pr0t: If you did a regular install it puts "/boot/" in a separate file-system when the root file-system is encrypted.20:12
TJ-pr0t: So, when the PC boots what, precisely, do you see displayed?20:12
eneconBashing-om this happens when playing video vlc or mozila(youtube) etc20:12
pr0terror: unknown filesystem entering rescue mode...20:13
Guest8351Bashing-om: Nothing in terms of verbose20:13
TJ-pr0t: OK, so you have a "grub rescue>" shell prompt?20:13
pr0tthen it drops me down to the grub rescue20:13
pr0ti tried to recover with a rescue cd but because i have encryption it fails to fix it20:13
Guest8351aptitude isn't installed, apparently20:14
Guest8351Bashing-om: I don't get anything from the command you gave me.20:15
TJ-pr0t: do you have the "grub rescue>" prompt in front of you right now?20:15
Talezexit20:15
Bashing-omenecon: Graphic's driver, so long as you stay within "additional drovers" utility, can see what results in changing the driver ( open source might do a lot better ).20:16
acovrigBashing-om, could you have meant 'grep -i hold'? or 'grep Hold'?20:16
Guest8351Bashing-om: We are talking about this command ... ? dpkg --get-selections | grep hold20:16
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pr0tTJ: yes the prompt is in front of me20:19
TJ-pr0t: do "set" and tell me what "prefix=" shows20:19
MonkeyDustGuest8351  I wonder how you cannot remove anything... can you do a simple sudo apt-get update ?20:19
pr0thd0,msdos1/grub20:20
TJ-pr0t: OK, let us assume that /boot/ is encrypted... *if* it is I'll show you how to manually unlock it and continue booting, OK?20:20
pr0tsounds great!20:20
Guest8351MonkeyDust: the update is happening, but ... not yet finished20:20
Guest8351Just finished20:21
geniiBluesKaj: I'm not sure, didn't do an update today. Was having messages doing shutdowns/reboots yesterday though20:21
Guest8351MonkeyDust: the update just finished20:21
geniiWrong channel, sorry20:21
Guest8351MonkeyDust: autoremove continues to talk of the wine1.6 unmet dependencies20:22
TJ-pr0t: here are three commands to issue, one line each, at a time: "insmod luks"   then "insmod cryptodisk" then "insmod crypto"20:22
Guido1I need a boot disk with photorec and maybe supporting networking so that i can save the data on a drive from a different computer. Where can I find such a boot imige?20:23
pr0tk did each command and after the output was error: unknown filesystem for every command20:23
TJ-pr0t: Ouch, not good :(20:23
TJ-pr0t: OK, let's assume those modules are built-in and we don't need to insert them... and try the next command20:24
laspahrlol got a spam message from someone on Kik that I qualified for a free Google Glass20:24
Guest8351FINALLY seems to work -f autoremove20:24
acovriglol, free $1500...20:24
Bashing-omGuest8351: No return is a good thing; OK, ya want Wine gone for good ? Not going to re-install it or Netflix ?20:24
pr0twhats the next command?20:24
TJ-pr0t: This command will unlock a LUKS dmcrypt-protected device: "cryptomount hd0,msdos1" ... if that device is encrypted you will be asked for the passphrase.20:24
pr0tk20:25
pr0tunknown command20:25
laspahrhmm.. comparing linksys smart wifi routers.. EA6900, EA6400, EA6350, EA610020:25
Guest8351Bashing-om: I just did a normal autoremove and that didn't work.  But it suggested that I add -f and that seems to be working20:25
TJ-pr0t: OK, so those modules aren't built in20:25
TJ-pr0t: OK, let's assume /boot/ isn't encrypted20:26
TJ-pr0t: "set root=(hd0,msdos1)"20:26
TJ-pr0t: "insmod normal"20:27
CharlesIChello friends20:27
CharlesICmy HD is failing so I ordered a replacement20:27
xubuntu-boothi i am having some boot issues and could use some help20:27
Bashing-omGuest8351: : MonkeyDust ; Remeber, there are config files for Wine in the /home directory that the package manager will not remove.20:27
CharlesICI was just wondering the easiest way with an ubuntu CD to copy /home and / over to the new one20:27
pr0tset command worked fine, but insmod normal gives unknown fs error again20:27
Guest8351Bashing-om: You mean in .wine?20:27
CharlesIC/dev/sda1 *         2048    1026047    512000  83 Linux20:28
CharlesIC/dev/sda2        1026048 1953523711 976248832  8e Linux LVM20:28
TJ-pr0t: OK, let us assume that partition #1 (msdos1) is not the correct partition and try some others20:28
TJ-pr0t: "set root=(hd0,msdos2)" then "insmod normal"20:28
acovrigCharlesIC, anything wrong with cp -vpR /home /mnt/new_home/ ?20:29
TJ-pr0t: If it works, after "insmod normal" you'll get the GRUB boot menu and can continue as normal. If that happens, remember which partition number you were using, and also let me know it has worked. Try other partition numbers:  msdos3, msdos4, msdos5, msdos6 if necessary20:29
Bashing-omGuest8351: Yeah, several -> ls -la $HOME/.wine , ls -la $HOME/.winetrickscache , ls -la $HOME/.local/share/applications/wine < - and more .20:30
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Guest8351Bashing-om: In my home directory, I tried to do a cd .wine, but that directory no longer exists20:30
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Bashing-omGuest8351: Let's see what does exist; pastebin this  -> sudo find / -name "wine*" <-.20:33
Bashing-omGuest8351: sorry forgot the newness factor. pastebin that output ( see the topic for instructions).20:34
Guest8351Bashing-om: It's a - before name?20:35
pr0tTJ: Does this information help at all paste.ubuntu.com/7821481 and paste.ubuntu.com and paste.ubuntu.com/782149520:37
Guest8351Bashing-om: So far, I have only one verbose ... aka /usr/share/bash-completion/completions/wine20:38
xMopxShellis it normal for a bunch of packages to say 'No candidate ver: <package name>' when doing do-release-upgrade?20:39
Guest8351Bashing-om: Should I do a rm -rf on that directory?20:40
Guest8351Bashing-om: I haven't recovered the command line ... it's still looking for things20:41
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Bashing-omGuest8351: patience, takes a long time to look at every file on the system ..20:42
TJ-pr0t: Well, according to that output /boot/ doesn't show up... but I notice there are 2 Promise RAID disks (sdb and add). My betting is you've accidentally installed the "/boot/" to them... and they aren't bootable devices20:42
Guest8351ok20:43
TJ-pr0t: correction, 2 Promise RAID disks (sdb and sdd)20:43
Guest8351brb20:43
TJ-pr0t: If you're got the PC running a Live ISO environment, we can fix the sda issue via a chroot20:44
excelsioraubuntu20:44
excelsiorahow do I copy a directory to an external drive? I know it's mounted. I'm trying cp -r /etc/source/dir blah where blah is my external drive. I have to sudo due to perms.20:46
bootfailhi all. i'm having some trouble and xubuntu fails to boot.20:46
bootfailmount: mounting /dev/mapper/xubuntu--vg-root on /root failed: invalid argument20:46
TJ-bootfail: Is the PC at a busybox shell prompt?20:46
excelsiorahow do I find the correct string representation of the external drive's location where I want to copy the file?20:46
excelsioraI have browsed to it in Nautilus20:47
laspahranyone use a Linksys router? I'm looking at getting one of the following: EA6900, EA6400, EA6350, or EA610020:48
Bashing-omexcelsiora: Do you want to "copy" via the file manager ( drag and drop) or from the CLI ?20:50
excelsioraCLI20:50
excelsioralsusb?20:50
pr0t\20:51
Bashing-omexcelsiora: The syntax is: sudo cp -r <source_path>/<file_name> <destination_path> .20:52
RepoxHey guys. I need some input on iptables? http://pastie.org/private/a7vmhjvv1sky1roy0gsg - I'm trying to lock out anyone else but the allowed IP's for port 3200. But even though I'm dropping everything else on the last line, everyone still can access it.20:52
pr0tTJ: sorry i was afk, no the boot i don't believe is installed on the raid disk20:52
excelsiorawith the period?20:52
TJ-pr0t: Is the Live environment runing right now?20:52
TJ-pr0t: If not, if you start it, we can unlock that encrypted file-system so you check what is in there20:53
pr0tyes20:53
excelsioraSo how do I find the correct representation of the lcoation? I tried copying in Nautilus but what I pasted didn't work20:53
TJ-pr0t: OK then: "sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda5 crypt_root"20:53
excelsioranow it's working, I deleted the file// from file///media...20:53
Bashing-omexcelsiora: no, the perios wsas but sentence puntuation. to find the "destination_path" what is in the result of the -> mount <- command ?20:54
excelsioraand I think I did it!20:54
excelsioraI had to strip out the "%20" and replace with "\ "20:55
excelsioranow sure why nautilus does that...20:55
excelsioraanyone know?20:55
Bashing-omexcelsiora: Right .. the '/' os a part of the 'path' .20:55
Bashing-omos/is20:56
excelsioraYeah, I just backed up my wifi passwords. Word.20:56
excelsioraThey were all in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections, so I just backed up NetworkManager just to be safe.20:57
pr0tTJ: one second I don't know the password to sudu20:58
pr0tsudo*20:58
Bashing-omexcelsiora: Good deal - a backup is no good unless it is checked to make sure it is good - have you checked the contents ?20:58
TJ-pr0t: If you're using the Live ISO there shouldn't be one20:58
TJ-pr0t: If the username is "ubuntu" try the same for the password20:59
djettyhey21:00
djettyhttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/24837517/libsdl2-package-not-installing-on-ubuntu21:00
djettyanyone know how to fix this?21:00
pr0tTJ: that worked21:01
Guest8351Bashing-om: Once I get all the directories, I just do a rm -rf on each?21:01
skinuxHas ext-intl package been removed from repo?21:02
excelsioraBashing-om: good idea21:02
TJ-pr0t: Yay! ok now do "sudo mkdir -p /mnt/target && sudo mount /dev/mapper/crypt_root /mnt/target"21:02
Bashing-omGuest8351: With discretion - yes. Would not want to remove any system files ! .21:02
TJ-pr0t: Then you can check if it has GRUB files in there with "ls -altr /mnt/target/boot/"21:03
=== SupaYoshiii is now known as SupaYoshii
Aki-Thinkpadmy ubuntu no longer intigrates the menu bar into the global menu bar when the window is maiximized21:03
Aki-Thinkpadwhats the command to fix this?21:03
Guest8351Bashing-om: Ok, but where are the system files?  I suppose I should pass the directories by you or someone knowing before I do the rm -rf then ...21:04
pr0tTJ: I am going to try the automate repair first now that the filesystem is uncrypted21:04
Bashing-omexcelsiora: be in a bad situation to rely on the backup, and it is not good, and/or the restoral method fails, huh ?21:04
skinuxI'm trying to install Zend Framework and Composer is complaining that 'ext-intl' is missing from the system.21:04
TJ-pr0t: NOOOOooooo! check it first21:04
TJ-pr0t: We need to know the state of things *before* anything changes21:05
excelsioraBashing-om:  I was a little worried when it wasn't where I expected it to be, but it's there!21:05
Bashing-omGuest8351: That is where 'pastebinit' comes into the picture here .21:05
pr0tokay21:05
pr0tone sec21:05
MultbrelchHi all ---- FUCK! I COULD PUKE BLOOD ONTO THE SCREEN! I just don't get it! --- Q: I just have a partition (/sd4/) that is mounted via fstab (/dev/sda4/media/partitionext4defaults0       0) during boot ... that works well. So far so good. Then I added an user via "sudo useradd -d /media/partition/userA -m userA" and re-booted. Now: I cannot login into userA because (this is what I guess) the ******* partition is not mounted, it only mo21:05
Multbrelchunts when I login into my own (admin) account. How can I tell the ******* system that it shall mount the partition before this screen of login with all users appears such that I can login into userA. - BTW: the other users are on regular /home/... . Any help is greatly appreciated.21:05
boxmeinwell there's hastebin, bpaste, and a billion other paste services21:05
Guest8351Bashing-om: I have so far /usr/share..., /usr/lib. and /usr/bin so far21:05
boxmeinpaste.pound-python21:05
boxmeinubuntu paste even21:05
boxmeinand pastebin has ads now, iirc21:06
kostkon!language | Multbrelch21:06
ubottuMultbrelch: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList21:06
Multbrelchkostkon, ubottu, sorry guys21:06
MultbrelchI will improve21:06
eneconBashing-om could jockey-gtk be what I need ?21:07
Bashing-omGuest8351: What you have is files in those 'system' directories .. IF those files are Wine files, you may remove the files .21:08
Bashing-omenecon: jockey is no longer used in later releases, what release are you running ?21:08
Guest8351Bashing-om: So far, everything ends with ...../wine21:09
Flaikerhi, i just switched to the propietary drivers from amd and now after rebooting I only get in a low graphics command line only mode. Can someone tell me how I can restore the standard vide drivers?21:09
liox_plis ubuntu server chane?21:09
liox_channel?21:09
reisioliox_: /msg alis list *ubunt*serv*21:10
eneconBashing-om 13.1021:10
pr0tTJ: when I try to mount it I get the error unknown filesystem type LVM2_member21:10
Bashing-omGuest8351: Terminal command -> cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/wine1.6.list <- a list of the files/locations that were installed .21:10
MultbrelchDear all. Is there somebody who might have any idea?21:11
reisioMultbrelch: soap on rope!21:11
reisioMultbrelch: about what?21:11
Bashing-omenecon: Yeah, that will bring up "Additional Drivers" utility .. but, are you not running a GUI to access SD directly ?21:12
Multbrelch? see above? or did they bock it?21:12
bootfailHi all. I get a mount fail and cant boot? mount: mounting /dev/mapper/xubuntu--vg-root on /root failed: invalid argument21:12
eneconBashing-om whats GUI? (:21:12
TJ-pr0t: Ahhh OK, so then do "sudo vgchange -ay"21:12
Guest8351Bashing-om: Shold that replace the find command?21:13
Multbrelchreisio, have you seen my posting?21:13
Bashing-omenecon: GUI = Graphic User Interface .. such as unity, Gnome, or some other DeskTop,21:13
TJ-pr0t: Then, once we are sure the OS knows about the LVM do "ls /dev/mapper/" and figure out which node is the root file-system. If you can pastebin that it would really help: "ls /dev/mapper/ | pastebinit"21:13
reisioMultbrelch: nope, I'm on IRC not a forum21:13
Multbrelchk21:14
Multbrelchmom21:14
MultbrelchI just don't get it! --- Q: I just have a partition (/sd4/) that is mounted via fstab (/dev/sda4/media/partitionext4defaults0       0) during boot ... that works well. So far so good. Then I added an user via "sudo useradd -d /media/partition/userA -m userA" and re-booted. Now: I cannot login into userA because (this is what I guess) the *strawberry* partition is not mounted, it only mounts when I login into my own (admin) account. Ho21:15
Multbrelchw can I tell the *strawberry* system that it shall mount the partition before this screen of login with all users appears such that I can login into userA. - BTW: the other users are on regular /home/... . Any help is greatly appreciated.21:15
Bashing-omGuest8351: No, on replace, what ya want to do is compare both outputs to what remains installed onto the system, Any file from 'wine1.6.list' should be removed.21:15
eneconBashing-om I am in the download softaeare center  thing ( its not in english here )  and I searched for  jockey-gtk . and sure I am not in terminal right now21:15
Multbrelchreisio, ^21:15
tachyonshi guys , can any help me to connect my ubuntu laptop and pc21:15
tachyonsusing cable21:15
tachyonswithout a router21:16
pr0tTJ: paste.ubuntu.com/782162921:16
tachyonsI tried this http://askubuntu.com/questions/22835/how-to-network-two-ubuntu-computers-using-ethernet-without-a-router21:16
tachyonsit shows "connected" , but ping test fails21:16
Bashing-omenecon: "Additional Drivers" is installed on desktops by default .. what desk top are you running .. and by the way release 13.10 is End_Of_Life .. and is no longer supported. Upgrade to a current release ( 14.04 !).21:17
TJ-pr0t: now do "sudo mount /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root /mnt/target" then list the directory again21:17
KeyboardNotFoundHow to disable guest login on xubuntu21:17
KeyboardNotFound?21:17
Guest8351Bashing-om: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7821630/21:17
Bashing-omGuest8351: looking at your /7821630/ .21:17
reisioKeyboardNotFound: grep -ir guest /etc/light*21:18
pr0tpaste.ubuntu.com/782163821:18
pr0tit actually mounted21:18
KeyboardNotFoundreisio, I don't see something on the monitor21:18
reisioMultbrelch: you want a user dir outside of /home/ ?21:18
eneconBashing-om its a laptop21:18
reisioKeyboardNotFound: do you see a new prompt?21:19
KeyboardNotFoundreisio, no i dont'21:19
reisioKeyboardNotFound: then it's working21:19
KeyboardNotFoundreisio, no result :/21:19
Multbrelchreisio, exactly21:19
TJ-pr0t: show me "find  /mnt/target/boot | pastebinit"21:20
reisioKeyboardNotFound: dpkg -l | grep -i lightdm21:20
reisioMultbrelch: pastebin your fstab, and the commands you ran21:20
Multbrelchreiso, k mom21:21
pr0tTJ: 782164621:21
Multbrelchreisio, http://pastebin.com/G44V0qHa <= partition = Diverses21:22
KeyboardNotFoundreisio, ok, now  I see something "ii  liblightdm-gobject-1-0                    1.10.1-0ubuntu1 "21:22
TJ-pr0t: So there is nothing installed there... makes sense since it couldn't boot from there21:22
reisioKeyboardNotFound: that's all?21:22
Bashing-omGuest8351: Humm .. not the output as I expected to see .. ok, what returns from -> ls -la /etc/xdg/menus <-, as an instance .21:23
Flaikerdoes anyone know how i can restore to use the standard graphics driver? the proprietary one only letts me into commandlinemode :/21:23
KeyboardNotFoundreisio, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7821651/ this is all21:23
reisioMultbrelch: and what was the useradd command?21:23
Multbrelchreiso, mom21:23
reisioKeyboardNotFound: dpkg -l | egrep -i 'gdm|kdm|lxdm'21:23
Multbrelchreisio, "sudo useradd -d /media/Diverses/home/lui -m lui"21:23
pr0tTJ: now can I try auto repair :)21:23
reisioKeyboardNotFound: oh nevermind21:23
KeyboardNotFoundreisio, :/21:24
Guest8351Bashing-om: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7821656/21:24
reisioKeyboardNotFound: for i in $(dpkg -L lightdm); do grep -Hi guest "$i"; done21:25
Bashing-omenecon: The machine is not in the equation, we are talking about a utility " Additional Drivers" that is by default installed with the desk top that you are using. Additional utilities" icon's location differs with each release and desktop.21:25
KeyboardNotFoundreisio, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7821658/21:26
reisioMultbrelch: and what were you talking about strawberries?21:26
pingw1n_mod21:27
pingw1n_*motd21:27
Multbrelchreisio, *strawberries* is a dummy for a very bad word ... :) I'm a bit upset because I don't quite understand the system right now, how it behaves.21:27
pingw1n\wc21:28
reisioKeyboardNotFound: for i in $(dpkg -L lightdm-gtk-greeter); do grep -Hi guest "$i"; done21:28
reisioMultbrelch: k21:28
reisioMultbrelch: you could try using a label instead of 'sda4'21:29
reisioMultbrelch: lsblk -f will say if it's got one already21:29
pr0tTJ: how can I decrypt my home directory as well?21:29
eneconBashing-om well then the truth I dont understnat "what desk top are you running "21:29
Multbrelchreisio, aha, I will see mom21:29
TJ-pr0t: Is it inside that encrypted root file-system?21:29
KeyboardNotFoundreisio, only /usr/share/doc/lightdm-gtk-greeter/copyright: ./src/guest-account.c21:29
KeyboardNotFound/usr/share/doc/lightdm-gtk-greeter/copyright: ./src/guest-account.h21:29
KeyboardNotFoundothers are directory21:29
pr0tI am unsure if it is or if its a separate partition, i can't remember21:30
reisioKeyboardNotFound: http://askubuntu.com/questions/62564/how-do-i-disable-the-guest-session21:30
KeyboardNotFoundreisio, I do not have /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf21:31
KeyboardNotFoundfile21:31
Bashing-omGuest8351: Following the path ; now what returns -> ls -la /etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged <- .. mind ya a long drwn out process to check for all files that 'might' still remain on the system.21:31
Multbrelchreisio, http://pastebin.com/CD0DsKkb <= sd3 is an encrypted partition, this is why there is no 'label'21:32
TJ-pr0t: OK, well you can check by doing "ls -la /mnt/target/home/.ecryptfs/"21:32
pr0tyup it is21:32
pr0tso thats fine21:32
reisioKeyboardNotFound: /usr/share/lightdm/ then21:32
KeyboardNotFoundreisio, sudo sh -c 'printf "[SeatDefaults]\nallow-guest=false\n" >/usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-no-guest.conf' helped me21:33
pr0tIm going to move forward with the repair.21:33
reisioKeyboardNotFound: gj21:33
KeyboardNotFoundreisio, ty :)21:33
pr0tTJ: thank you for yourself I haven't worked with Ubuntu much at all, and haven't ever worked with encrypted filesystems really.21:33
TJ-pr0t: OK, so try "sudo ecryptfs-recover-private /mnt/target/home/<your-username>"21:34
pr0ts/yourself/"your help"21:34
pr0tvery cool, ill give that a shot21:34
Guest8351Bashing-om: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7821682/21:34
Bashing-omenecon: OK< when you installed 13.10, was it as a standard desktop install ? // if so the best of my hazy memory, Additional drivers -> ubuntu software Center -> software sources -> (edit menu option on top task bar) ->Additional Drivers (tab in Software Sources) .21:34
Bashing-omGuest8351: look'n at /782168221:35
Multbrelchreisio, so, what shall I change in the fstab?21:35
bootfailTJ: trying to follow along, but missed the beginning. seems like maybe i have similar problem to pr0t21:36
reisioMultbrelch: instead of /dev/sda421:36
reisioMultbrelch: you could have 'LABEL=foo'21:36
TJ-bootfail: Is the PC at a busybox shell prompt?21:37
Bashing-omGuest8351: OK, you may remove wine.menu , wine.menu.dpkg-new . // do you see the process ? Got to do this and follow each and every lead to it's end.21:37
TJ-bootfail: Your issue is entirely different, and much easier to fix too :)21:37
Multbrelchreisio, so 'LABEL=/media/Diverses' ?21:37
Multbrelchaha21:37
bootfailTJ: yay. i am booted to live cd21:37
reisioMultbrelch: no21:37
Multbrelch?21:37
reisioMultbrelch: whatever the label 'lsblk -f' says it has21:38
reisioMultbrelch: you can set one with e2label, if it's ext21:38
Multbrelchhttp://pastebin.com/CD0DsKkb21:38
TJ-bootfail: what was the last thing you did/happened on that system before it broke?21:38
Guest8351Bashing-om: Sorry, but what command?  rm -rf?21:38
Multbrelchits sd421:38
reisioMultbrelch: no sda4 is just its enumeration21:38
bootfailTJ: power fail. hasn't booted successfully since then. tried a lot of things i found in forums. hope i didn't mess it up more.21:39
Multbrelchreisio, right, there is no label ...21:39
bootfailTJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7817881/21:39
reisioMultbrelch: it's the first device it found ('a') and the fourth partition ('4')21:39
reisioMultbrelch: you can set one with e2label, if it's ext21:39
MultbrelchI see21:39
TJ-bootfail: OK, give me a few minutes to read up on it21:39
Multbrelchreisio, and you think that might help?21:39
eneconBashing-om ok I am there , so you are saying that I could switch to open source ?21:39
bootfailTJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7821707/21:39
Multbrelchhmmm, needs to read manuals about label and e2label21:39
pr0tbootfail: do you already have boot-repair-disk iso?21:39
reisioMultbrelch: quite possibly, won't hurt regardless21:39
pr0tit's very useful for this problem21:39
reisioMultbrelch: no, just run e2label21:40
Multbrelchk21:40
eneconok Bashing-om thx , I ll try that :)21:40
bootfailTJ: yes. i tried 'recommended' fix, but no luck21:40
Multbrelchreisio, its ext4 I'm using21:40
reisioMultbrelch: then...21:40
reisioMultbrelch: you can set one with e2label21:41
Multbrelchhttp://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl8_e2label.htm21:41
bootfailpr0t: sorry. didn't notice you posted that. yes. tried boot-repair without luck21:41
Multbrelchseems to be for ext2, no?21:41
TJ-bootfail: Not great news on first review - it looks as if the root file-system in /dev/mapper/xubuntu-vg-root has been severely damaged, possibly beyond the possibility of repair. Based on your reporting the power loss by guess would be that the disk lost power as it was writing to the areas of the disk that file-system is at, causing random corruption.21:41
reisioMultbrelch: they're all based on ext2, one util21:41
Multbrelchokay, you say so ... so I will try ... needs some time, mom21:42
bootfailTJ: yuck. i don't mind doing a reinstall, but would like to recover some files. any chance i can access that? it is encrypted i think21:42
TJ-bootfail: The only chance there is, I think, TestDisk. See this tutorial for how to use it from Live ISO: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootSectorFix#Step_2_-_Install_TestDisk_in_the_live-session21:42
TJ-bootfail: The root file-system doesn't look to be encrypted, but the home directory may have been21:43
bootfailTJ: yes, that sounds right. if i can get to that, i could pull the files/folders i want21:43
BrandonChey all21:44
BrandonCso broke boot stuff trying to get windows 7 and ubuntu on hard drive21:44
reisiogj21:44
BrandonCinstalled windows, installed ubuntu, told ubuntu to split drive in two partitions21:44
BrandonCtired to start over and installin windows on whole thing and it said couldnt write to drive21:45
BrandonCrepair said mbr was corrupt21:45
Jeffrey_fPidgin not minimizing (is this a #pidgin question or can this be solved here?)21:45
BrandonCgot in ubuntu and made this21:45
BrandonChttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7821709/21:45
entrerihello, what is the name of the new kde5 package so I can download it ?21:45
TJ-bootfail: First see if testdisk can recover anything by telling it to try "sudo testdisk /dev/mapper/xubuntu-vg-root"21:45
bootfailTJ: ok. just got testdisk21:45
Multbrelchreisio, strange, when I do "sudo e2label /dev/sda4 Diverses" it does not show any label in "lsblk -f"21:46
SupaYoshijust wondering anyone good with setting up a openvpn server, on a vps?21:47
SupaYoshito route all traffic through the vpn from the clients?21:47
SupaYoshiIve setup everything already, I just get no internet on the client sides.21:47
SupaYoshicommunication from and to the server works.21:47
SupaYoshiand to the client works too.21:47
TJ-Multbrelch: That is because you need to use "sudo ..." in order for lsblk to access the additional info for "-f"21:48
bootfailTJ: not sure what it is telling me:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7821753/21:48
SeveasSupaYoshi enable ip forwarding and maybe adjust your firewall21:48
DiamondciteSupaYoshi: Did you remember to setup the NAT or Forwarding rule to actually send the connections to the clients?21:48
TJ-bootfail: That suggests testdisk thinks the file-system is OK... highlight the 'ext4' line and then press P to look at files21:49
MultbrelchTJ-, yes, now it works, thx!21:49
naughtydog /join #tryton21:50
bootfailTJ: doh. i told it to do the 'deeper search' seems like that will take awhile21:50
TJ-bootfail: You can always press Ctrl+C to interrupt it21:51
Multbrelchreisio and TJ-, I boot now and tell you then if it works ...21:52
Multbrelchcu soon21:52
unreal-dudei am a complete loss. been working at this since thursday, about to reformat. upgraded from 13.10 to 14.04 and lost all network capability with AR9285 and AR8132 Qualcomm adapter in my netbook. I was not able to compile any drivers because either they are 64bit and im on a 32bit cpu or the compile dies with my newer kernel. What are my options? I have to usb wifi dongles but they won't install21:52
unreal-dudeeither without drivers which i need network to get.21:52
reisiounreal-dude: works with older kernel?21:52
xMopxShelli'm on ubuntu server 13.10 and want to upgrade to 14.04. when i run do-release-upgrade it says No new release found. why is this?21:53
Jeffrey_fPidgin not minimizing to tray on hitting [X] (is this a #pidgin question or can this be solved here?)21:53
xMopxShelloh wait im dumb :)21:53
xMopxShelli am on 14.04 :)21:53
chadhello21:54
reisioJeffrey_f: IIRC that's a pref21:54
reisiochad: 'lo21:54
unreal-dudereisio, how would i test this?21:54
Bashing-omGuest8351: Let's do this: -> sudo apt-get --purge remove wine1.6 , sudo apt-get autoremove wine. And I have a list of places to verify no Wine file exist in.21:55
bootfailTJ: this doesn't seem right. i think i took a wrong turn http://paste.ubuntu.com/7821786/21:56
TJ-bootfail: Hmmm, lets exit testdisk and try the suggested file-system repair. Press Ctrl+C and do whatever else needed to eXit back to the shell prompt21:57
bootfailTJ: ok there.21:58
Multbrelchreisio and TJ-, this really is strange, the partition is mounted for the owner "ownerA" but not for the user "userA". BTW: userA is in the group of "ownerA".21:59
trismJeffrey_f: it is a pref as reisio said but it depends on the desktop, in recent unity versions the systray is gone so it can't minimize there (without the indicator plugin), but it will minimize to the messaging menu21:59
TJ-bootfail: OK, now do "sudo fsck.ext4 -p -b 4096000 -B 4096 /dev/mapper/xubuntu--vg-root"21:59
unreal-dudereisio, yes, it works on 3.11 but not 3.13. should i worry about this and fix the issue? or just run on 3.11?22:01
Marleneehow can i setup ubuntu from pc without USB flash Drive ?22:02
bootfailTJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7821817/22:03
Multbrelchreisio and TJ-, in other words: can I create a home directory for "userA" somewhere on a partition, which owner is another user (e.g., "usrB") but where ownerA is part of the group ownerB?22:03
TJ-bootfail: So nicely fixed then, and no major faults either22:03
superwhats the other chatroom for offtopic?22:03
Bashing-omGuest8351: I must be away from the keyboard for an extended amount of time ( 2/3 hours ) .. sorry if I am leaving you in a bind.22:04
bootfailTJ: should i dare try a reboot?22:04
Multbrelchreisio and TJ-, in other words: can I create a home directory for "userA" somewhere on a partition, which owner is another user (e.g., "userB") but where userA is part of the group userB? <= corrected22:04
Guest8351Bashing-om: You are doing so much so far.22:04
excelsioraany checklists on backing up stuff from Ubuntu when you don't want to backup the whole system or home directory? (like, I want to leave behind movies and system junk except my wifi passwords, which I've already found and backed up.)22:04
TJ-bootfail: you can mount that file-system and explore it to make sure it looks OK first. "sudo mkdir -p /mnt/target && sudo mount /dev/mapper/xubuntu--vg-root /mnt/target"22:04
geniiMarlenee: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Installation_without_a_CD has most of the methods described22:05
ryan_461super: ubuntu-offtopic22:05
Bashing-omGuest8351: Try'n to help .. I will check your situation when I return .22:06
TJ-Multbrelch: I've not been following what your issue was, sorry, I just chimed in on the 'lsblk -f' issue22:06
skinuxA little help finding a quality article on configuring Ubuntu to actually use SWAP partition that it should be using?22:06
Guest8351Bashing-om: probably will need to leave.  It's midnight where I am22:06
reisioMultbrelch: yeah, but why22:06
reisioskinux: /etc/fstab is where it's specified22:07
TJ-Multbrelch: But I think one of the checks that one of the PAM modules does when a user logs in, is that the $HOME is owned by that user22:07
Bashing-omGuest8351: OK, just be careful with any 'rm' commands .. triple check .. 'rm' has no forgivness for a mistake !22:07
MultbrelchTJ-, this is the case, the partition is owned by userB, but the home "/partition/home" of userA is owned by user userA22:08
skinuxI know that. I need appropriate commands for getting the proper information to put in fstab.22:08
bootfailTJ: i am hopefull, seems like it is there, but i;m not sure how to get into it22:08
Guest8351Bashing-om: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7821841/22:09
MultbrelchTJ- and reisio, I changed the rights of the partition in /media/ to "sudo chmod 777 Diverses/"22:10
Multbrelchlets see ...22:10
Multbrelch- reboot -22:10
laughingtigergood morrow everyone.22:11
bootfailTJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7821847/22:11
TJ-bootfail: That looks as we'd expect... try for a reboot22:13
bootfailTJ: will do. thank you!22:14
MajorTomhello22:16
reisio'lo22:16
MultbrelchTJ-, reisio ... it works, after a "chmod 777" of the partition. <= strange this since this is a non-desired constellation now ...22:17
bootSUCCESSTJ: seems to have worked! Thank you much for the help!22:17
Jeffrey_ftrism and reisio, in Gnome22:18
TJ-Multbrelch: Maybe the user didn't have traverse rights or write rights to the $HOME entry itself22:18
MajorTomhey folks I'm having a problem in connecting to a website using firefox on Lubuntu22:18
TJ-bootSUCCESS: YAY :D22:18
MultbrelchTJ-, hmmmm mom22:19
MajorTomI noticed that some friends of mine, linux users, are havinf my same experience22:19
Jeffrey_fMajorTom: What website?22:20
MajorTomit is impossible to connect22:20
MajorTomcan I write it?22:20
laughingtigerhi there, I have a problem with bluetooth daemon on startup. I've purged the bluetooth, however, there're three bluttooth related things left which i'm afraid can't be purged.22:20
skinux How do I get the volume id for SWAP partition? blkid?22:21
laughingtigerwhat should I do to disable the left-over bluetooth things from booting? thank you guys.22:21
Jeffrey_fMajorTom: If you are having issues, the more info, the better.22:21
daftykinsskinux: if you want to mount via UUID sure22:22
MajorTomI written the website on your pvt22:22
skinuxblkid doesn't return anything for /dev/sda22:22
MajorTomon your private i mean22:23
skinuxI want to get Ubuntu to use SWAP. So, whatever I have to do to make that happen.22:23
Jeffrey_fMajorTom: Stay on channel.  When was this issue happening??22:23
MajorTomok22:23
MajorTomalways22:23
MajorTomsince about 3 days22:23
Jeffrey_fHave you tried today??22:23
MajorTomyeah22:23
MajorTommany times22:23
daftykinsskinux: are you using sudo22:24
skinuxYes22:24
daftykinso022:24
MajorTomit is so strange22:24
Jeffrey_fMajorTom: The site was down yesterday (not known how long before that).  It is accessible today.  Yesterday, I did notice i could not connect via my instant messenger nor from the web.22:25
MajorTomI used xchat to connect to their irc network too...but now neither it is working anymore22:25
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daftykinsskinux: can you install pastebinit and then run "sudo parted -l | pastebinit" and "sudo blkid | pastebinit" ?22:25
MajorTomuh I see22:25
MajorTomthanks jeffrey,,,,22:25
MajorTomI will try again22:25
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Jeffrey_fMajorTom: so, the Ubuntu GUI is not relevant, I am using firefox and have no issues connecting.22:26
MajorTommmm22:26
MajorTomwait i wanna try now22:26
Aki-Thinkpadin bzr, what is the command to discard your current branch, and revert to a branch on lp?22:26
MultbrelchTJ-, I followed your advice and: userA is not in the group ("userB") of userB22:26
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laughingtigerwell, looks like no one is gonna help me.22:27
laughingtigerlol22:27
Aki-Thinkpadlaughingtiger, sorry what is your issue?22:28
Aki-ThinkpadI just got here22:28
skinuxparted doesn't even show the SWAP partition.22:28
Aki-Thinkpadwhat should I do to disable the left-over bluetooth things from booting? *22:28
MajorTomjeffrey here always the same..."it is not possible to contact the server"22:28
MajorTom:(22:28
Aki-Thinkpadlaughingtiger, what do you mean, "Left over bluetooth things*?22:29
MajorTommaybe they are doing some work to their systems...22:29
Aki-ThinkpadLike I have blue tooth on my laptop, but because I don't have any devices, I just disable it in the bios22:29
laughingtigerthank you AKi-Thinkpad. My issue is that with having purged bluetooth , there still are something related left which will boot on startup. I wanna get rid of this totally.22:29
TJ-Aki-Thinkpad: That is sufficient22:29
ShadowcritHello there, can I ask for users opinions on a good web enabled control panel to help control my Ubuntu 14.04 VPS on the OpenVZ platform.22:30
TJ-Aki-Thinkpad: sorry, that was for laughingtiger ... darned tab-completion :)22:30
Aki-Thinkpadlol22:30
Aki-ThinkpadI guess I don't know what you mean by purged blootooth; are you mucking about with kernel modules?22:31
Jeffrey_fMajorTom: I'm connected on IM and via web.  Maybe there are issues on other servers in their system22:31
MajorTomI see22:31
Aki-Thinkpadlaughingtiger, as in, are you trying to remove all blootooth modules from the linux kernel?22:31
MajorTomI will wait for they fix it22:31
laughingtigerwell, Aki-Thinkpad, "libbluetooth3", "libgnome-bluetooth8" and "pulseaudio-module-bluetooth" are the three left things.22:31
MajorTomthanks jeffrey22:31
Jeffrey_fproblem with Pidgin not minimizing to tray in Ubuntu 14.04 Gnome.  I don't see anything in preferences to fix this.  It used to minimize to the tray on hitting the [X] , now it just exits22:32
Aki-Thinkpadlaughingtiger, what is the purpose? Just to free up resources?22:32
laughingtigerI don't know too much about editing kernels.22:32
laughingtigerno, to let the bluetooth not booting on startup.22:32
Aki-Thinkpadlaughingtiger, disable bluetooth in the bios22:32
Aki-Thinkpadlaughingtiger, this is a laptop, right?22:33
skinuxDo I actually want to add a SWAP file or use a SWAP partition?22:33
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laughingtigernope, it's a larger one.22:33
SierraARI'm wanting to upgrade an ubuntu 12.04 server to 14.04, but when I run sudo do-release-upgrade, it's telling me no new release found. Is there something else I need to do to update?22:33
Aki-Thinkpadif bluetooth is from your motherboard, disable it in bios22:33
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Aki-Thinkpadif bluetooth is from a prehiperal; just unplug it22:33
reisio...22:35
zyntuxmeh22:35
TJ-laughingtiger: simply blacklist the "bluetooth" module: "echo "blacklist bluetooth" | sudo dd of=/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-bluetooth.conf"22:35
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MultbrelchTJ- and reisio, ALL WORKS NOW: at the end I found out that userA was NOT in the group of userB! Probably, I forgot to write "sudo"  "usermod -a -G  ..."22:36
laughingtigerthanks TJ- I'll  try that.22:36
reisioMultbrelch: gj22:36
MultbrelchAnyway, one always has to verify the commands one is just executing ...22:36
MultbrelchThx for great help, reisio and TJ-22:37
MajorTomI remember I used a lot pidgin in the past22:39
MajorTomit is a nice software22:39
jp_porterOK guys i have a big problem i open compiz and removed the borders and then my computer froze on me so i cant open any programes like compiz to put the borders back on can someone help me22:39
reisiojp_porter: you can't alt+F2?22:39
Multbrelchjp_porter, is it 13.04?22:40
jp_porteryes i can22:40
Jeffrey_fproblem with Pidgin not minimizing to tray in Ubuntu 14.04 Gnome.  I don't see anything in preferences to fix this.  It used to minimize to the tray on hitting the [X] , now it just exits.  Any ideas??22:41
jj995is there a way to get /usr/bin/time -v data for the whole process tree instead of just the single process being run?22:42
jj995i have a python script that subprocesses or more C++ apps and I'd like to get total time and max resident memory22:43
jp_porterdo you know th command that opens the window22:43
MajorTomtry to hit near the [x] let's see what happens22:43
jj995jp_porter: "open ." ?22:43
reisiojp_porter: ccsm? ls /usr/bin/*cc*22:43
reisioprobably in the menus, too22:44
souriJeffrey_f: Is your pidgin attached to the messaging menu?22:44
jp_portera command that launch's compz 's settings22:44
Jeffrey_fjp_porter: Yes, you mean the envelope icon?22:44
Mafiasalam all o/22:45
reisioshalom22:45
souriJeffrey_f, yes. if then also pidgin fails to respond, it is actually an issue with pidgin itself, pidgin does not use the telepathy service22:46
MafiaSome needs to be treated by Hitler22:46
softballsTJ-: evenin mate :) up late again ey?22:46
jp_porteris it compiz --replace22:46
TJ-softballs: :)22:47
reisiojp_porter: you can try it, but it might just reload the wm still without window borders22:47
zyntuxwhat does compiz do exactly i uninstalled it because it was causing me errors22:47
reisiozyntux: hardware accelerated window manager22:47
souriJeffrey_f, Ubuntu relies on the telepathy backend AFAIK for the way empathy works, you have to keep pidgin alive, someone please correct me if i'm wrong22:47
reisiozyntux: that is "pretty" window management22:47
softballsi moved the code to my aws server now22:47
foofoobarHi. I just installed ubuntu after win7. Grub does not give me options upon booting, I'm directly booted into ubuntu.22:48
softballsyou said something about github, should i look into that?22:48
zyntuxthanks! guess i'll leave my pc w/o it seems alot better now22:48
foofoobarHow can I tell grub that there is also a windows on this hard drive?22:48
reisiofoofoobar: pastebin your grub.cfg22:48
foofoobarreisio, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7821977/22:49
reisiofoofoobar: yup, no entry for windows22:50
reisiofoofoobar: how about the output of sudo lsblk -f22:51
TJ-softballs: If you want to make it easy for others to help with the code. First learn the basics of source-code control in a local git repo for the merc code, then when you're ready 'push' it to github where others (like me!) can view, clone, and publish changes22:51
foofoobarreisio, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7821983/22:51
softballsTJ-: oh ok, looking at the git webpage right now, do you think there would be others interested in modifying its code?22:51
souriHi, I need some help with the sony_laptop module's ALS based backlight dimming. I cannot get it working. I can adjust the backlight manually, also I can see the values in the embedded controller's registers changing, however I do not know how to figure out issue. Help?22:52
TJ-softballs: you'd be surprised what talent is out that that has nostalga for such code, or just want easy codebases to contribute/learn with22:52
softballsTJ-:  sounds cool, ill definitely check it out then :)22:53
laughingtigerit's interesting that xchat is a non-free software on windows.22:53
reisiofoofoobar: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Custom_Menu_Entries22:53
TJ-softballs: If you do I may hav a crack at adding that unicode support you spoke of :)22:54
foofoobarreisio, so I need to create a custom entry?22:55
softballsTJ-: sure thing :) do you want me to setup git right away for you to access it? or do you want to go with the code i sent you last night?22:55
Jeffrey_fsouri: So what do you suggest?22:55
TJ-softballs: Let's take this private, as it isn't Ubuntu related now22:55
laughingtigerI'm getting crazy that libgnome-bluetooth8 can't be removed because network-gnome-manager will also be removed. is it safe to remove them all and reinstall network-manager?22:56
reisiofoofoobar: that's the straightforward fix22:56
reisiofoofoobar: there's a win7 example linked from the place I linked22:56
SierraARI'm wanting to upgrade an ubuntu 12.04 server to 14.04, but when I run sudo do-release-upgrade, it's telling me no new release found. Is there something else I need to do to update?22:58
laughingtigerlol22:58
foofoobarreisio, Using "--set" rather than "--set=root" in GRUB 1..99 will result in an "error: no argument specified" message.22:59
ObrienDaveSierraAR, wait for 14.04.1 due out soon22:59
laughingtigerSierraAR: maybe 14.04 is not a long-term support edition22:59
foofoobarso the example is old, correct?22:59
souriJeffrey_f, my laptop (a vaio s13) has got an ambient light sensor, that in windows, it automatically uses to dim the backlight of the screen. In linux (ubuntu 14.04 kenel 3.13.0-30-generic) however the automatic dimming does not work22:59
rachoSierraAR, check out you apt sources list22:59
SierraARlaughingtiger: 14.04 is a lts22:59
SierraARracho: Anything in particular I need to look for? There's only 4 entries23:00
souriJeffrey_f,  the values i see changing are the dump from the embedded controller's RAM. I've tried digging the source of the kernel module, i can't figure out how the module is listenning to the events from the embedded controller, i was hoping someone was familiar with the kernel code, acpi and the driver framework, so I cound figure this out23:00
laughingtigerSierraAR: really, well, then I've got the same issue with you because I tried to upgrade my system too about two days ago.23:01
rachoSierraAR, i used to to run ubuntu servers and if you don't update right away the archive the repos to a new url23:01
racho*they23:01
xtrizwhat is the name of the channel of ubuntu mirror  ?23:01
xtrizit's ubuntu-mirrors23:02
xtriz:D23:02
SierraARracho: Not entirely sure what you mean, but this is whats in /etc/apt/sources.list: http://pastebin.com/DBLbpqDK23:02
daftykinsSierraAR: 14.04.1 is only a few days away now.23:02
mac_nibbletAnyone here with a brix iris pro ?23:02
laughingtigerSierraAR: I had successfully updated my system , only still it's 12.04.23:02
mac_nibbletmine keeps getting kernel panics23:02
rachoSierraAR, yeah that was the conf file i think (sry running slackware now)...check the wiki if these are the right url targets23:03
laughingtigerI was just boring, sorry if I'd bothered anyone.23:04
foofoobarreisio, I ran a grub-install but the menu still does not show up. I'm directly booted to ubuntu23:05
laughingtigerlife is really boring, isn't it?23:05
_zoggy_anyone  know what happen to the 12.10 packages?23:06
reisiolaughingtiger: yours is23:06
rachofoofoobar, have you changed your "timeout" param in grub.conf23:06
reisio_zoggy_: not much23:06
laughingtigerreisio: lol23:06
_zoggy_http://archive.ubuntu.com quantal/main23:06
_zoggy_no longer there23:06
_zoggy_W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.13 80]23:06
eeee!eol | _zoggy_23:07
ubottu_zoggy_: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades23:07
foofoobarracho, no23:07
Radzellhi23:08
ObrienDave_zoggy_, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com quantal/main23:08
RadzellI have a macbook pro and he trackpad keep opening up the app switcher at random times.23:08
_zoggy_thats fine its end of life, would explain why no new packages.. but the repo was there last week23:08
RadzellHow do I stop this23:08
foofoobarracho, there are a lot of "set timeouts" in my grub.cfg23:08
foofoobarWhich one should I choose?23:08
_zoggy_ty23:08
ObrienDave_zoggy_, edit 'archive' to 'old-releases'23:09
rachofoofoobar, i haven't configured my grub.conf since 2008 so i'm really rusty there..a google search will probably reveal most of the parts :)23:09
MajorTomI leave thanks for the help byee23:10
foofoobarracho, I looked under /etc/default/grub and found the timeout is set to 1023:12
laughingtigerChina, North Korea, Iran, are the three evil power left on this planet. anyone agree with me?23:13
reisiolaughingtiger: try #defocus23:13
eeee!ot | laughingtiger23:13
ubottulaughingtiger: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!23:13
zubirfoofoobar: if you're running grub2, you shouldn't be editing grub.cfg directly23:13
foofoobarzubir, okay.23:13
laughingtigerok. I see.23:13
foofoobarI'm just looking for a way to enable dual booting with windows 7.23:13
foofoobarI added a win7 custom menu entry, now I want to show the menu.23:14
zubirah okay23:14
zubirwell23:14
reisiofoofoobar: it doesn't show?23:14
zubiryou should run "sudo update-grub" to generate a new grub.cfg based on the info in /etc/default/grub23:14
foofoobaroh, okay23:14
theadminfoofoobar: Have you ran "sudo update-grub"? It should detect other operating systems automatically.23:14
foofoobarI did sudo grub-install23:14
foofoobarI will reboot and try it, give me a second23:15
foofoobarWorking, great :)23:16
foofoobarThanks23:16
zubirawesome23:16
zubirthere's a program called Grub Customizer as well23:16
zubirthat gives you a nice GUI interface to customize your grub menu23:17
foofoobarzubir, yeah I installed it, but after executing it, my system crashed/rebootet23:17
zubirinteresting23:18
zubirwell, just stick with what you have then23:18
gerihi23:18
gerihow can i replace all 0, in a file with 0,\t    \t = ta23:18
gerifrom the terminal23:18
eeeegeri: man sed23:18
geri"0," -> "0\t"23:18
gerieeee: sed 's/0,/0<TAB>/g' input_file ??23:20
skinuxDoes Ubuntu have a Web-Based Management System, an equivelant of Windows' Management Instrumentation?23:21
bprompt_!webmin | skinux ?23:22
ubottuskinux ?: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system.23:22
skinuxI'm speaking of some sort of SQL-like service.23:23
skinuxWebMin is only for managing web server related stuff like domains, hosting accounts, ftp users, etc.23:23
gerieeee: unescaped newline inside substitute pattern23:26
howlingwolfhello23:27
howlingwolfAnyone know how to remove a panel.23:28
patrick_hello?23:28
howlingwolfhi23:28
patrick_how come the linux channel doesnt allow to talk?23:28
patrick_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8m0vnS-99o23:28
zubirgeri: you could also try tr23:28
zubirsomething like23:29
patrick_ Nibiru The Denouement and Struggle for Control...23:29
howlingwolfanyone help me with my panel?23:29
gerizubir: ?23:29
Th3U1timat3Wait i used Webmin on Ubuntu before23:30
zubircat input.txt | tr '0,' '0\t' > output.txt should work23:30
zubirIt would turn a file that said "0, 0, 0," to "0      0      0      "23:31
gerizubir: tr: Illegal byte sequence23:31
zubirwell23:31
zubirdo man tr23:31
zubirit reads from stdin and writes to stdout23:32
geriit seems that a UTF-8 locale is causing Illegal byte sequence23:33
gerizubir:23:33
zubirah23:33
gerihow to address that?23:33
zubirno idea23:33
zubiroh23:34
gerihm23:34
zubirtry "cat input | tr '0, ' '0,\t' > output23:35
zubirtr doesn't like it when the sets are of different sizes23:35
bodhi_zazen666666m,,,,,,,,,,,,[[[...[[;[[[[[[[/,23:36
bodhi_zazen-23:36
gerizubir: same error23:37
bodhi_zazen=========================================================================================================================================-------------------------------------------========================================================================================ccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc23:38
bodhi_zazencccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc23:38
congo76what desktop r u guys using in ubuntu? I keep jumping around, don't care for unity23:40
bprompt_hmm23:40
bprompt_congo76:   I use kde for dm, and lxde for wm23:40
rachocongo76, xfce when i want work done, gnome for showing off23:40
congo76I was using xfce but the logout buttons don't work anymore. need to research23:41
congo76been taking gnome (metacity) for a spin this weekend23:41
congo76@bprompt I haven't used kde since the 90s23:42
bprompt_hehe23:43
bprompt_I"ve been using kde since the 90's =P23:43
congo76i used to use in on redhat23:44
bprompt_I run many kde apps, thus, I also run gtk ones, but I run more kde ones......though I used to have gnome and kde both installed and ran either...back in SuSE23:45
congo76how is it on resources?23:45
zubirgeri: yeah idk then23:46
sqphHi. Just wondering: will there be google play store or future Ubuntu phones?23:46
zubirI'm running Mint so I'm using Cinnamon, it's pretty nice23:46
bprompt_congo76:   these days... lite, depends on specs...... I mean..  I do not run "kwin" the kde default window manager, I run lxde's, and that one is very light23:46
d0n0v6ni love xfce23:47
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rachoxfce is gnome sane23:47
rachoand i used to run gnome for 10 years23:47
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bprompt_used to run xfce also back in SuSE 9.2, liked it too23:47
congo76xfce is a nice one on the resources. I'm running on a 5 yr old Dell laptop w 3GB of Ram and onboard video card, Ubuntu 14.04 seemed to slow things down a bit so I started looking for less intense window managers23:49
d0n0v6ni am running it on a thinkpad x201.23:50
renebarbosacongo76, try Lubuntu :)23:50
Shardvexzcongo76: you're on irc from minecraft? cool man23:50
rachocongo76, it's because of compiz....man that thing is a CPU hog23:50
rachothe amount of events it sends to X is astounding23:51
congo76@Shardvexz, no I'm in Linux. @rancho yeah you're right, that's why I switched to metacity 2D23:51
bprompt_congo76:    depends on a variaty of things you know... I ran kde with lxde in kubuntu 12.04 with 4gbs of ram... my machine was likely older than 5years. and it ran smooth.... then again, I had it on an SSD and that makes a huge difference23:52
byten823:52
patrick_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTAx9hFbBxk&list=UUdMWRr3LoOPDbTmnH_go_3Q23:52
congo76bprompt: i'm still on a traditional hard drive :(23:52
congo76renebarbosa: thanks, might do that23:53
bprompt_congo76:   has ran well for me... some folks when they refer to slow... they might be referring to the "kwin" windows manager and the plasma framework...... just like folks referring to slow ubuntu may just be referring to unity or compiz... but you can just use another window manager and that'd do it23:54
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congo76I'm a little hesitant to try any more desktops until i can figure out why my machine is booting to the command prompt instead of the login screen. uninstalled e17, it would blowup on login23:55
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rachowhat is the time frame for ubuntu to transition to systemd?23:55
RainMan28hi everyone, I am trying to get a cron job to run, but it is just failing and I am trying to see its output via > /tmp/output.log >2&1 but no file is created23:55
zubirfuck compiz23:56
eeeeRainMan28: i could be wrong, but check /var/log/syslog for hints23:56
IdleOnezubir: no swearing please23:57
RainMan28eeee: you're right23:57
RainMan28eeee: I'm seeing this: http://pastebin.com/HHEz3D08  any tips? thank you23:58
laspahrhmmm.. any clue why docky keeps closing? /:23:58
RainMan28eeee: my cron file is called lightswitch23:58
rachoRainMan28, well obviously you have a syntax error23:59
zubirnah broe23:59
laspahrjust logged into my computer after letting it sit locked (lid shut but all it does is lock), and docky wasn't opened23:59

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