[00:04] <Freeder> Hello. I moved a hard drive to a new machine. GRUB menu comes up fine, but when I choose the install (or recovery mode) it goes to a black screen with a blinking cursor. Alt-F1,2,etc does not bring up a terminal. What could be the error?
[00:05] <daftykins> Freeder: a hard disk with an existing install would not have an install option, what do you mean?
[00:07] <Freeder> s/install/kernel
[00:08] <Freeder> menu option
[00:09] <daftykins> Freeder: what hardware elements change between each? try this one out...
[00:09] <daftykins> !nomodeset | Freeder
[00:09] <Freeder> I edited the grub command to include nomodeset, noapic, apci=off
[00:10] <Freeder> (or whatever exact spelling is) ... no success
[00:10] <daftykins> Freeder: can you explain the hardware between each?
[00:11] <Freeder> Two totally different machines.. what are you looking for in particular?
[00:11] <daftykins> so CPU different, graphics different?
[00:11] <daftykins> how bad are we talking :D
[00:12] <Freeder> yes.
[00:12] <Freeder> all the above.
[00:12] <Freeder> assume everything has changed, because it has
[00:12] <daftykins> still both 64-bit capable processors though i assume :>
[00:12] <daftykins> if it's a 64-bit install
[00:13] <daftykins> what version is the install, also?
[00:13] <Freeder> actually, both 32bit
[00:13] <Freeder> 14.04
[00:13] <daftykins> Freeder: have you tested a live session from USB?
[00:13] <Freeder> live CD wont boot properly either... how can I tell it to skip the GUI?
[00:14] <Freeder> heh ^^
[00:14] <Freeder> I get command line for a moment or two, then the screen starts blinking
[00:14] <Freeder> replaced with a mouse, on/off/on/off
[00:14] <Freeder> (mouse cursor)
[00:15] <Freeder> banging alt-f2 flashes command line for a second, then back to blinking screen/mouse cursor
[00:15] <daftykins> Freeder: that's interesting. what hardware? have you reduced the system to the minimal required to run and tried booting live then?
[00:15] <Freeder> dual 2.8ghz xeons, I think
[00:15] <daftykins> sorry what *graphics hardware that should've been
[00:15] <daftykins> server you say
[00:16] <Freeder> yes, its a 2U HP DLsomething or other
[00:16] <Freeder> DL380?
[00:17] <cagri_> hello i need help, my unity starts crashing when using spread view..
[00:18] <daftykins> Freeder: yeah there are many generations of the same model #
[00:18] <Freeder> G4, I think
[00:18] <daftykins> what's the RAM?
[00:18] <Freeder> 3gb
[00:18] <daftykins> ouch
[00:18] <Loshki> Freeder: Do you have a 12.04 live cd you can try?
[00:18] <Loshki> daftykins: ouch? Ram snob...
[00:19] <Freeder> Loshki: perhaps... what would that change?
[00:19] <daftykins> Loshki: welcome to 2014
[00:19] <boxmein> don't ask. say I installed wubi-ubuntu 14.04 on D:\, I can access C:\ on nautilus but not D:\, wat do
[00:20] <OerHeks> Freeder, why not try 64 bit?
[00:20] <Freeder> OerHeks: because I dont have a 64 bit proceessor in the machine
[00:20] <daftykins> sorry, i don't touch anything WUBI with a bargepole.
[00:20] <OerHeks> boxmein, wubi is not supported with 14.04
[00:20] <Loshki> Freeder: it would verify the hardware. And allow you to do a backup and scratch-install, which I think you may need to do, depending on how clever you are...
[00:20] <Freeder> Loshki: why not 14.04 is what i meant
[00:21] <Freeder> interesting... I just popped the drive back into the old one (after stripping out the other drives for other reasons) and it said a UUID drive was missing... is it possible it is silently error'ing while GRUB is looking for that drive? Reviewing the GRUB commands at the boot menu, there was no reference to it
[00:21] <daftykins> Freeder: are you sure it's a 32-bit only xeon 0o
[00:21] <Freeder> well, I popped in a 64bit install and it yelled at me
[00:22] <Freeder> so Im' assuming its 32bit
[00:22] <daftykins> heh
[00:22] <Loshki> Freeder: oh, I found 14.04 unstable on my own hardware and had to revert to 12.04...
[00:23] <Freeder> fudge all. I think the HD is a 64bit install. This machine is even older than the one I'm moving it to
[00:23] <boxmein> why's it in the installer then ;_; OerHeks
[00:23] <Freeder> sigh.
[00:24] <Freeder> ok then... rsync'ing to a 32bit disk isn't an option then, is it
[00:24] <Freeder> of course not.
[00:24] <Freeder> I hate this place.
[00:25] <Loshki> Freeder: denial, anger, bargaining, acceptance. Welcome to stage 4. What's on this disk anyway?
[00:25] <CapitalSigma> hey all
[00:25] <cagri_> well, can no one help?
[00:25] <optrusty> Hi
[00:25] <Freeder> Production server.
[00:25] <function9> hi
[00:26] <optrusty> Hi
[00:26] <Freeder> There's no easy way to xfer all of this then, is there
[00:26] <opSiri> Hi! :D
[00:26] <Freeder> I can't think of any way but to reinstall all the binaries
[00:26] <optrusty> !sudo say Hi!
[00:26] <optrusty> Not u ubottu
[00:26] <CapitalSigma> not positive if this is on topic here, but: one of my monitors has looked a little funky (looked like scan lines) for a while. it started flickering this morning, and now if i turn it on, it stays on for a second, then turns itself off.
[00:27] <CapitalSigma> i think it's a hardware issue, but is there something i should check to make sure it's not a software issue before i spend the cash on a new monitor?
[00:27] <Freeder> daftykins / Loshki , do you concur? I'm hosed?
[00:27] <Loshki> Freeder: Nasty. Put the disk away somewhere safe as a permanent backup. Are you confident of your ability to reconstruct the server(s)
[00:28] <Freeder> Yes, but its a LOT of work, heh
[00:28] <Freeder> Several days
[00:28] <Freeder> atleast I can mount this and copy configs, I guess
[00:28] <daftykins> CapitalSigma: yes. it's called #hardware / ##hardware
[00:29] <CapitalSigma> daftykins: i was hoping someone would suggest that it's software, oh well -- thanks
[00:34] <Loshki> Freeder: I totally understand. Since you can spin copies of the original disk you could always experiment, but it won't save any time. My biggest worry if you move to newer versions of everything, including the servers, is that you'll hit some kind of incompatibility & it will be a huge time sink. In your place, I'd consider experimenting with different hardware.
[00:35] <daftykins> xeon servers being non-64-bit sounds like they belong in a museum
[00:35] <Freeder> I am limited to the HW I have
[00:35] <Freeder> and I literally have every possible set of incompatiable stuff you could imagine
[00:36] <Freeder> This machine is 64bit! but has SCSI drives. This one is SATA, but 32bit. This one is SAS, but single core whatever!
[00:36] <Freeder> no easy way to move stuff around
[00:37] <Loshki> Freeder: Classic time (yours) vs. money (for hardware) tradeoff. Back to plan A, then? Port it to whatever you can get running...?
[00:40] <Freeder> oh, and a perfect 2950, but NO USB KEYBOARD
[00:40] <Freeder> sigh.
[00:40] <cagri_> Does anyone here have a geforce gt630m graphic card and use ubuntu 14.04
[00:42] <function9> cagri_: check on nvidia website and select your driver for your gfx card
[00:43] <cagri_> function9 : i just wanted to know if anyone got it, its not because i need a driver, i have one. It's just because im experiencing some troubles and want to know if thats because of my gfx card (unity spread crashes my pc)
[00:43] <Freeder> ok, for all the marbles... is there some way I can configure a new ubuntu install (or live CD session) over the network without having a keyboard attached to it to configure it?
[00:44] <Loshki> Freeder: I still use ps/2. I don't like usb for debugging boot time problems...
[00:44] <anon1_> I have a headless install of Ubuntu. How do I install X so that I can run the occasional GUI app when I need it? Is it as simple as sudo apt-get install x or something like that?
[00:44] <daftykins> Freeder: not that i know of.
[00:44] <Freeder> preseed! interesting
[00:45] <OerHeks> anon1_, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[00:46] <function9> cagri_: hence I gave advice to check for the latest drivers
[00:46] <Freeder> heh, NOT easy
[00:46] <anon1_> OerHeks: Is there anything lighter than installing the entire Ubuntu-Desktop?
[00:47] <Loshki> Freeder: time or money...
[00:47] <anon1_> OerHeks: Because it seems like a bad idea to do that on a server.
[00:47] <OerHeks> anon1_, openbox ?
[00:48] <function9> anon1_: blackbox or openbox
[00:48] <anon1_> OerHeks: Thanks, going to check that out.
[00:48] <anon1_> function9: Which would you recommend.
[00:48] <anon1_> function9: The Ubuntu wiki lists openbox, fluxbox and blackbox, though it always lists openbox first.
[00:49] <function9> anon1_: It's a pref thing, it's all up to you. I pref blackbox
[00:49] <Freeder> anon1_: the server edition doesn't come with the GUI, if thats what you're worried about? iirc, atleast
[00:49] <anon1_> function9: I'll probably just go with openbox since I'm not really going to be using it very often.
[00:50] <anon1_> Freeder: Yes it doesn't, I prefer the console for almost everything, but very occasionally I have the need for a GUI application.
[00:50] <function9> anon1_: I haven't tried openbox, but I have worked with blackbox in the old days of the 486
[00:52] <anon1_> function9: So I've installed xorg, xauth, and openbox, but when I used the command 'openbox' it says "failed to open the display variable from DISPLAY"
[00:53] <daftykins> anon1_: you're probably going to need a login manager still to run that - like gdm or lightdm
[00:55] <Freeder> can anyone confirm this is really a 32bit processor? Xeon 307103-001
[00:56] <Freeder> googles is being mean to me
[00:56] <function9> anon: I'm not sure how openbox works, all i remember a long time a go, I type in the terminal: startx  when x started it called on blackbox
[00:56] <function9> my Xconfig had blackbox configured
[00:57] <anon1_> function9: Ok thanks for the info. I'm just going to make another virtual machine with the full desktop version of Ubuntu. Seems easier, and I'm sort of in a hurry.
[00:58] <daftykins> Freeder: Prestonia, aka Pentium 4 era Xeon - so nope, 32 only
[00:58] <Freeder> ok, so I'm not crazy then, thanks
[00:58] <Freeder> Wonder if I can upgrade this to a 64bit then
[00:58] <daftykins> Freeder: that wasn't really the usual model # i'd see though
[00:58] <daftykins> i doubt it's worth it
[00:59] <daftykins> Freeder: who do you work for that's using such dinosaur tech?
[00:59] <Freeder> startup
[01:00] <rtl8188ce> hey folks, take 3 :) can anyone maybe help me with this wifi adapter problem in ubuntu?
[01:00] <function9> rtl8188ce: powermanagent disabled?
[01:00] <daftykins> rtl8188ce: call me crazy but your nickname looks like a model number!
[01:01] <rtl8188ce> function9: yup, i turned it off but the wifi traffic still fluctuates
[01:01] <function9> rtl8188ce: uefi?
[01:02] <Freeder> "The socket 603 that you have isn't upgradable to any CPU that has x64 support"
[01:02] <Freeder> damn, if thats true
[01:02] <daftykins> Freeder: seems likely.
[01:02] <rtl8188ce> function9: wildly, it's doing exactly this, goes up to my max download speed gradually, then abruptly it drops and repeats itself.
[01:03] <daftykins> sounds like the TCP congestion limit
[01:03] <rtl8188ce> even pinging my router gives me same result, several packets around 10ms, then boom 2000ms, and then back to 10+-
[01:04] <daftykins> sounds like a bad driver
[01:04] <rtl8188ce> dunno if it would help fixing but i had tried suse and no such behaviour. i get this only in ubuntu and i really want to use ubuntu, if i can fix this thing.
[01:05] <function9> rtl8188ce: suse sometimes use their own drivers. You need to find out what driver suse is using
[01:05] <rtl8188ce> checked lspci, lsmod etc. every dump entry regarding the wifi and ethernet adapter was exactly same between both distros :(
[01:06] <function9> I like suse, but not for a desktop :P
[01:07] <function9> rtl8188ce: i'll say it again suse tends to use their own drivers, you need to find out what drivers they are using for your card and what version.
[01:07] <rtl8188ce> is it somehow possible to pinpoint the drivers that suse distro use for these cards and somehow save it so i can get them to ubuntu and install?
[01:07] <rtl8188ce> sorry, i just started (want to start) using linux.
[01:07] <OerHeks> rtl8188ce, tried trottle down to 54 mbit?
[01:07] <function9> oh
[01:08] <sandpiper> has anyone else been hearing of major problems with the new trusty 3.13.0-32 kernel updates a few days ago?
[01:08] <rtl8188ce> OerHeks, if you could tell me how to do that, i'd like to try out.
[01:08] <sandpiper> i have encountered major problems after updating kernel and removing OLDER kernel images and headers in synaptic
[01:08] <OerHeks> rtl8188ce, i think easiest way is in your router ?
[01:09] <anon1_> function9: I feel stupid, X was being forwarded to a window in OSX and I didn't notice.
[01:09] <anon1_> function9: So it actually works great.
[01:09] <rtl8188ce> OerHeks, gotcha, i'll check it through router interface. any header i should look for that setting?
[01:10] <function9> anon1_: it's all good :)
[01:10] <daftykins> rtl8188ce: it'll be whether it's in a/b/g/n/ac/mixed mode etc.
[01:11] <OerHeks> rtl8188ce, or something lik modprobe rtl8188ce 11n_disable=0 ( not sure that command is oke)
[01:11] <OerHeks> disable=1
[01:12] <rtl8188ce> while i try those 2, is it possible to know what driver suse use for a hardware, find it somewhere on the drive and store it as a package so i can use it in ubuntu?
[01:12] <t0th_-> how i can change apt-get to get only stable packages?
[01:14] <rtl8188ce> i have access to both installations, so i think i can extract the driver suse use and then get it in ubuntu, IF i learn where to look for it =)
[01:14] <daftykins> rtl8188ce: that may well be a fools errand due to different kernels, but ah well
[01:15] <t0th_-> how i can change apt-get to get only stable packages?
[01:16] <daftykins> t0th_-: what are you running?
[01:16] <Beldar> t0th_-, What makes you think it's not, and your definition of stable please.
[01:16] <Freeder> ok, attempting to install 14.04 32bit to a fresh disk. Selected 'install ubuntu', get a few graphics flash on the screen, and then it goes back to the mouse arrow blinking on/off on the screen
[01:16] <t0th_-> daftykins:  14/04
[01:17] <rtl8188ce> daftykins, hmm. any suggestions? i mean if a clean suse can operate the adapter flawlessly and ubuntu can't, i thought i could somehow identify the differences (drivers etc) and make those changes in ubuntu. i may be way off wrong ofcourse.
[01:17] <Beldar> Freeder, This from the desktop or the first gui with other options?
[01:18] <daftykins> rtl8188ce: none you'll like.
[01:18] <Freeder> I'm booting from the CD, I select 'install ubuntu' on the first screen
[01:18] <Freeder> after that, it goes to the blinking screen
[01:18] <daftykins> Freeder: what version CD?
[01:18] <Beldar> Freeder, Try to get to the desktop lets see if this is just a graphic issue
[01:18] <Freeder> I can move the mouse for the second its on the screen, but the next blink resets it to the center
[01:18] <rtl8188ce> daftykins, i saw lots and lots of threads opened by owners of this particular card, "rtl8188ce", and tried almost all of them but nothing worked.
[01:18] <nimbiotics> Hello. Using ubuntu 14.04 on a dual boot machine, when I try to open the windows NTFS partition I get an error message (http://paste.ubuntu.com/7817206/) that basically tells me that the NTFS partition is in an unsafe state: It is not. Is there a way to fix this? TIA!!
[01:18] <Freeder> 14.04 32bit
[01:18] <Freeder> Beldar, not sure how to do that.. it doesnt respond to anything
[01:18] <daftykins> Freeder: why are you installing desktop on a server?
[01:19] <Freeder> .... 32bit
[01:19] <daftykins> nimbiotics: windows 8.1 system?
[01:19] <Freeder> there's no 32bit server, for 14.04 atleast
[01:19] <Beldar> Freeder, So what happens if you try the try ubuntu option?
[01:19] <Freeder> Same exact thing
[01:19] <rtl8188ce> daftykins, it would be shame not being able to use ubuntu because of a wifi card, when it works on some another distro.
[01:20] <daftykins> rtl8188ce: yeah, unfortunately i have no patience for wireless issues i'm afraid. i use cables on my desktops.
[01:20] <Freeder> I can mash on Alt-F2 and get the shell for a second, but the blink resets it to the mouse arror
[01:20] <nimbiotics> daftykins: its windows 8 ... not sure about the .1 portion. The point is that I used to open the partition w/no issues, I jast had not done it in months
[01:20] <Beldar> Freeder, Have you run a md5sum check? Is this a server version or desktop?
[01:20] <daftykins> nimbiotics: the windows machine probably hasn't shutdown safely. you need to use shift+shutdown unless you've disabled hybrid shutdown.
[01:21] <Freeder> I feel like im' getting punked now :P
[01:21] <Beldar> nimbiotics, Boot windows and have it do a disk check in computer.
[01:21] <function9> rtl8188ce: I use kubuntu, which has the knetworkmanager for my wifi stuff
[01:21] <Freeder> 32bit desktop 14.04
[01:21] <daftykins> nimbiotics: in fact it says Windows is hibernated... go and shut it down properly.
[01:21] <Beldar> Freeder, Do you want help, I saw this "Freeder> there's no 32bit server, for 14.04 atleast" that is why I asked.
[01:22] <nimbiotics> daftykins: I have not disabled hybrid shutdown as I had never heard of it. I just did that check again and I did shut it down properly
[01:22] <RBX129K> Hi, I accidentally overrode my Windows 7 with Ubuntu. Is there any way I can recover Windows 7?
[01:23] <rtl8188ce> function9: ubuntu also had this "wicd" which is reported as a fix for this particular card.
[01:23] <nimbiotics> daftykins: what does shift+shutdown do?
[01:23] <rtl8188ce> function9: gonna try that this time then.
[01:23] <Beldar> RBX129K, Are you on that ubuntu now, if so how long have you been running it?
[01:23] <RBX129K> I've just installed it about two hours ago.
[01:23] <daftykins> nimbiotics: shutdown properly... windows 8 when told to shutdown does a kind of write to disk, this is all beyond the scope of this channel, just follow the advice to solve the problem please. you can research windows 8 shutdown online :)
[01:23] <RBX129K> And yes, I'm on it.
[01:24] <nimbiotics> daftykins: I am sure I did shut it down properly
[01:24] <Beldar> RBX129K, Bad idea, the longer you use it the less likely you can recover it, boot a live.
[01:24] <Freeder> running an integrity check right now
[01:24] <RBX129K> Dumb question, what do you mean "boot a live?"
[01:24] <daftykins> nimbiotics: and as you don't know about the above please use the shift method - i'd like for our conversation to stop going around in circles, so if you could go do that it'd be great :)
[01:25] <RBX129K> Insert the CD I've burned?
[01:25] <Beldar> RBX129K, The live dvd/usb the one you used to install with.
[01:25] <RBX129K> Alright.
[01:25] <nimbiotics> daftykins: OK, will try shift+shutdown
[01:25] <nimbiotics> daftykins. beldar: thanks
[01:27] <koell> how do i logout from Lubuntu via terminal?
[01:27] <koell> all i found on the net is from ubuntu, but not lubuntu and lxde
[01:27] <function9> koell:
[01:27] <function9> koell: exit
[01:28] <OerHeks> sudo shutdown -P now
[01:28] <koell> function9: logout in terms of "logout from the gui" so i can enter a different username and password
[01:28] <koell> OerHeks: this will poweroff my pc
[01:28] <OerHeks> koell, yes, you didn't ask logout
[01:28] <function9> lol
[01:28] <OerHeks> oh you did, my bad
[01:28] <koell> ?
[01:29] <Freeder> ok, integrity check came back fine
[01:29] <function9> right click and check if you have an option to logout
[01:29] <Freeder> theres no 'low graphics mode' or something similar i can force?
[01:30] <Beldar> !nomodeset | Freeder
[01:30] <Freeder> Beldar, but from the live cd?
[01:30] <Freeder> oh, its under an F key, isnt it
[01:30] <Beldar> Freeder, Read the link, please do not just immediate react.
[01:31] <Beldar> f6 I think
[01:35] <RBX129K> Okay, I'm on a live version of Ubuntu.
[01:36] <Freeder> The Ubuntu 14.04 screen pops up, colored dots go underneath the text, goes to a white screen, the orange/purple background, and then back to the flashy mouse again (nomodeset this time)
[01:36] <RBX129K> What should I do, now?
[01:36] <Beldar> RBX129K, In general we suggest testdisk, however you have ubuntu is there anything there that needs saving?
[01:37] <RBX129K> No, nothing needs saving.
[01:37] <RBX129K> Doesn't "testdisk" only restore files previously, and not the OS itself, or can you reinstall Windows 7 via testdisk?
[01:38] <daftykins> RBX129K: do you have another hard disk besides the one windows was on?
[01:38] <RBX129K> I have a D: drive.
[01:38] <Beldar> RBX129K, http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk  You should always have backups that include an image/clone.
[01:38] <Guest27800> sssss
[01:38] <Guest27800> W a Y
[01:39] <Beldar> RBX129K, Is D an actual HD?
[01:39] <RBX129K> I don't know. How do I check?
[01:39] <Beldar> RBX129K, Run sudo parted -l in ubuntu and pastbin the info
[01:39] <Beldar> !pastebin | RBX129K
[01:41] <danilonc> Hello Everybody!
[01:41] <RBX129K> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7817330/
[01:41] <danilonc> I'm trying to remote boot/unlock a Luks root FS over SSH
[01:42] <danilonc> I'm running a Ubuntu Server 14.04
[01:42] <unreal-dude> is there a command line method to reboot into the grub menu?
[01:43] <Beldar> RBX129K, Preface answer to others here with their nick like you see yours here. I see one HD nothing which would be D
[01:43] <OerHeks> unreal-dude, no, hold shift to enter grub menu
[01:43] <unreal-dude> doesn't work
[01:43] <unreal-dude> holding, nor repeatedly pressing
[01:43] <danilonc> I could accomplished that by mounting it manually
[01:43] <danilonc> e.g.
[01:43] <danilonc> /sbin/cryptsetup -T 1 --allow-discards luksOpen /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx sda5_crypt --key-file=-
[01:44] <danilonc> but them i have to kill 2 process that are waiting my password on tty0
[01:44] <daftykins> unreal-dude: you could be doing it too slow.
[01:45] <danilonc> Does anybody knows how to make the /lib/cryptsetup/passfifo  to work
[01:45] <unreal-dude> i could be, i started pressing during boot menu
[01:45] <unreal-dude> i tried holding starting during and slightly after post as well
[01:45] <unreal-dude> *boot menu = post
[01:47] <Beldar> RBX129K, Anyway your D was probably on that single HD unless you have an external not showing. Check out testdisk for recovery.
[01:47] <RBX129K> Will testdisk recover my Windows 7, or the files that were in my computer before I swapped?
[01:48] <Beldar> RBX129K, Hard to say you used it for at least 2 hours, no guarantees at any time, thats why you should have been backed up.
[01:49] <Beldar> RBX129K, You could ask in ##windows
[01:50] <Beldar> RBX129K, for recovery help
[01:55] <danilonc> Just found a solution here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/595648/comments/5
[01:56] <anon1_> I am installing the full desktop version of Ubuntu via virtualbox on top of OSX. Are there specific drivers that I need to install in Ubuntu?
[01:56] <daftykins> anon1_: such questions are relevant to the use and documentation of virtualbox, not to the support of ubuntu :)
[01:57] <Beldar> anon1_, Virtual has its own drivers
[02:00] <rajmahendra> I have upgraded my os ot new version of ubuntu... once i give password i see only a black screen and move i dont see anything ... can anyone help me ?
[02:01] <Beldar> rajmahendra, Have you had to load graphic drivers in the past? They do not follow upgrades.
[02:02] <rajmahendra> i just used the update-manager to uograde...
[02:02] <Beldar> rajmahendra, Does not matter nor answers the question.
[02:02] <rajmahendra> I tried to install gnome on ubunty as well but not succeded.
[02:03] <rajmahendra> will that create any issue ?
[02:03] <Beldar> rajmahendra, Starting with actually answering questions here is important.
[02:05] <Beldar> !in
[02:06] <Beldar> rajmahendra, ^^^
[02:06] <laspahr> eeee: can I get your opinion on something?
[02:06] <eeee> yeah sure
[02:06] <laspahr> http://www.noobslab.com/2014/04/macbuntu-1404-pack-is-released.html
[02:06] <eeee> did the boot work btw?
[02:06] <laspahr> I haven't turned it off yet, I just got home heh..
[02:07] <eeee> oh ok
[02:07] <laspahr> would you trust that page, and should it be okay to install?
[02:07] <eeee> honestly i dont know...
[02:07] <laspahr> that's what I had on my laptop before but it got lost when I did the reinstall IG
[02:07] <laspahr> alright, well I'll look through it, if it looks like too much then i'll hold off. I don't NEED it
[02:08] <daftykins> !ppa | laspahr
[02:08] <laspahr> just looks a little cleaner than stock ubuntu
[02:08] <OerHeks> that macbuntu package is known to give issues, try it if you like it, but please, do not ask for help :-D
[02:08] <chris0br> hi
[02:08] <laspahr> I used it, and didn't seem to give me problems but probably wouldn't hurt to check other options..?
[02:09] <laspahr> I won't install the package, i install everything seperately
[02:09] <laspahr> unless the package is all the commands
[02:09] <chris0br> Anyone here has experience mounting windows shares ?
[02:09] <daftykins> yes.
[02:09] <laspahr> like Windows partitions from a dualboot?
[02:09] <chris0br> Could mount all units, but bigger drives do not mount at all
[02:09] <chris0br> No, mount SMB shares
[02:10] <daftykins> "units" ?
[02:10] <chris0br> My 2TB and 4TB windows shares do not mount at all.
[02:10] <daftykins> are you attempting to use admin shares or have you created names?
[02:10] <chris0br> I could mount 7 external HDDs thru my network with no flaw, but bigger drives only get fail
[02:11] <chris0br> All units with names and all mounted, but big drives did not
[02:12] <laspahr> OerHeks: any alternatives that give the same look for 14.04?
[02:12] <daftykins> what's this 'unit' term you're using?
[02:12] <TJ-> chris0br: did you check the Windows Event Logs for errors?
[02:12] <chris0br> Windows drives
[02:12] <daftykins> so... disks
[02:12] <daftykins> as TJ- said then - sounds like they're GPT ones?
[02:13] <OerHeks> laspahr, i don't care about those wannabe-osx-themes, i think it is blasfemie
[02:13] <chris0br> Yep, they are GPT, do you know if there is a problems to mount them thru SMB ?
[02:13] <laspahr> OerHeks: alright, any clean Ubuntu themes then?
[02:13] <laspahr> I don't really like the built in ones
[02:14] <chris0br> Smaller drives (from 120GB to 1TB) mounted fine, but the bigger units only failed
[02:14] <OerHeks> lots of themes on gnome-look.org
[02:15] <laspahr> okay.. and is there anything in particular that seems to give problems on macbuntu?
[02:15] <OerHeks> chris0br, what is the filesystem on those big drives?
[02:15] <chris0br> NTFS
[02:16] <daftykins> chris0br: what do Windows logs say and what do the client logs say?
[02:16] <chris0br> I do not know where I can get those logs, since I am mounting them with the file explorer
[02:17] <chris0br> The only message it says is "Failed to mount Windows share"
[02:18] <daftykins> oh, you never mentioned this.
[02:18] <OerHeks> laspahr, i just warned you, i don't go find out what is exactly wrong, it is not supported
[02:18] <daftykins> chris0br: do you not want them to be available every boot? 0o
[02:18] <laspahr> okay.. well I think I might've found a better theme that I like more on gnome-look
[02:18] <laspahr> thanks!
[02:18] <OerHeks> have fun :-)
[02:20] <chris0br> Hi, I do not need them to automount
[02:20] <chris0br> I can keep them bookmarked for easy access, but thats all
[02:21] <laspahr> to install tar.gz you have to use dpkg right?
[02:23] <laspahr> OerHeks: Have you installed themes from gnome-look before..? not sure what file to d/l and install or what.. heh
[02:23] <laspahr> I have the .zip, but not sure what .tar.gz
[02:23] <daftykins> !theme
[02:24] <laspahr> ......
[02:24] <laspahr> I mean how to install it from gnome-look
[02:24] <daftykins> yeah i was hoping that trigger had a guide
[02:24] <daftykins> i bet gnome-look has a guide.
[02:24] <daftykins> i bet OerHeks's breakfast on it.
[02:24] <eeee> lol :-)
[02:25] <laspahr> eeee: could you be of any help..?
[02:25] <xin0> algun chileno ?
[02:25] <chris0br> Any idea about the mount problem ?
[02:26] <daftykins> chris0br: well you didn't answer me yet so i can't continue
[02:26] <daftykins> oh you did
[02:26] <daftykins> chris0br: i would diagnose via command line mounts
[02:27] <laspahr> hmm.. maybe I should think a bit before I go look for a theme.. these are for Gnome haha...
[02:27] <laspahr> I'm not on gnome..
[02:27] <daftykins> no wiser statement was ever made.
[02:27] <chris0br> I am gonna check the command lines for gvfs stuff and check l8r here
[02:28] <chris0br> You know if there is a size limit to mount SMB shares ?
[02:28] <laspahr> ...
[02:28] <daftykins> chris0br: use smbclient to test connect, then try test mounting to a /path/
[02:28] <chris0br> Cos its weird that only bigger hdds did not mount
[02:28] <eeee> laspahr: I've no idea about it
[02:28] <laspahr> I'm on wiki.ubuntu.com/artwork but idk where all the themes are
[02:28] <daftykins> chris0br: i am not aware of any issue that would cause this, i'd have mentioned it by now
[02:28] <chris0br> daftykins: tks, gonna check this and with other distros too
[02:29] <daftykins> laspahr: really, this is about as irrelevant for a support channel as i can consider
[02:29] <chris0br> ok, tks
[02:29] <Apteryx> Hello! I'm having problems with a bluetooth keyboard. It connects fine, but the layout is completely foobared. It's unusable.
[02:29] <chris0br> gonna check here, tks
[02:30] <Apteryx> Any tips about what I should try to get it fixed? It used to work nicely!
[02:30] <Apteryx> And still work with a Windows PC so the hardware is fine.
[02:30] <Apteryx> I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 with the latest updates.
[02:33] <jman> Please help. i just downloaded a tar gz file update and i tried to manually copy and paste  the files in the folder where they belong and it says i don't have permission on my admin account! can anyone shed some light on the situation or help me do it in the terminal
[02:35] <function9> jman: did you use root to unzip that file? sudo chmod 777 file
[02:35] <daftykins> jman: not much detail to go on there... what did you download, what system is this?
[02:35] <jman> the adobe flash tar gz and extracted to desktop
[02:35] <jman> ubuntu 12.04
[02:36] <daftykins> jman: that is not how to install flash on ubuntu.
[02:37] <daftykins> !flash | jman
[02:37] <jman> daftykins flash is already on here i downloaded the update
[02:37] <bodhi_zazen> daftykins, too bad gnash does not work better or peopel do not migrate to html5 already
[02:37] <daftykins> jman: so what are you doing downloading it manually? :)
[02:38] <jman> brb
[02:39] <function9> bodhi_zazen: html5 is a bit lighter to use, but still resource hungry
[02:40] <bodhi_zazen> function9, ?
[02:40] <daftykins> kinda off topic guys
[02:40] <function9> sorry
[02:40] <jman> daftykins i need 11.2.202.394
[02:40] <bodhi_zazen> lighter then what ? resource hungry compared to what ?
[02:41] <daftykins> jman: is that older? why.
[02:41] <jman> its the newer one according to adobe
[02:41] <jman> and cant get it with software center
[02:41] <bodhi_zazen> jman, is there some reason you do no want to install with apt-get ?
[02:42] <jman> didn't know what too type for program name
[02:42] <bodhi_zazen> !flash|jman
[02:43] <Jeffrey_f> jman: flash is in ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:43] <jman> not version 11.2.202.394
[02:43] <daftykins> jman: wait for it to get packaged up and be available in updates.
[02:43] <jman> :(
[02:43] <daftykins> why is this such a big deal to you?
[02:43] <jman> wifey wants to play her game
[02:44] <jman> gotta keep her happy
[02:44] <Jeffrey_f> jman: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras    <---should do it
[02:44] <daftykins> jman: are you using firefox
[02:45] <OerHeks> !info flashplugin-installer
[02:45] <OerHeks> see, it is
[02:45] <jman> jeffrey_f, i already have that
[02:45] <daftykins> jman: is this firefox...
[02:45] <jman> daftykins yes
[02:46] <daftykins> jman: hit ctrl+shift+A in firefox, go to plugins... is flash listed?
[02:46] <vibranium> What is the best hobby for a programmer?
[02:46] <edition> music
[02:47] <edition> jogging
[02:47] <daftykins> edition: don't encourage the off-topic-ers please
[02:47] <edition> how do I restore the notification area. I think it was affected by Unity.
[02:47] <fiodor> where  am  i
[02:47] <edition> im using xubuntu.
[02:48] <jman> yes but it says shockwave flash
[02:48] <daftykins> jman: correct, and that is adobe flash...
[02:48] <daftykins> jman: http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player.html
[02:48] <vibranium> Sorry, what was the topic?
[02:48] <jman> thats weird it list the same version the game is telling me to install
[02:49] <fiodor> here there is not  topic
[02:49] <fiodor> everybody  talks  what it  wants  to
[02:49] <OerHeks> !topic > fiodor vibranium
[02:49] <OerHeks> !topic > vibranium
[02:50] <daftykins> jman: and what is it you're trying to run... what is this game?
[02:51] <OerHeks> daftykins, facebook games, i guess
[02:51] <jman> farmville 2
[02:51] <fiodor> i dont use to  talk in  private form
[02:51] <jman> on facebook
[02:51] <jcstarken> hey trying set up my 14.04 so that I can sync my fitbit looking for galileo any ideas?
[02:51] <jman> everything else works
[02:51] <worm> anyone configured tun/tap tun6to4 module on ubuntu?
[02:52] <fiodor> i  prefer do it  here  ,  among  all you
[02:52] <Beldar> fiodor, Do you need support?
[02:52] <fiodor> i only  do  that when  i am  practicing  spoken  english
[02:53] <daftykins> jman: go somewhere else and test other flash content
[02:53] <Beldar> fiodor, This is support there is a offtopic channel for chat.
[02:53] <worm> Beldar: are you good with tun/tap ipv6 setup?
[02:53] <jman> daftykins everything else works just fine
[02:53] <Beldar> worm, NO and don't just start asking people it is rude.
[02:54] <worm> thanks.
[02:54] <worm> i thought ur from supporters :s
[02:54] <daftykins> jman: oh well, sorry, you're on your own.
[02:54] <OerHeks> jman, you might want to try chrome with buildin flash, as a last resort
[02:54] <jman> daftykins thanks
[02:55] <jman> thanks everyone for the help
[02:55] <bodhi_zazen> jman, see http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/flashmanual
[02:56] <bodhi_zazen> just change the version is all
[02:56] <Apteryx> Hey. I could fix my Apple Bluetooth Wireless keyboard finally. I disabled the text input shortcuts settings, unpaired it, repaired, and bingo... Strange!
[02:56] <edition> how to restore xubuntu notification area?
[02:57] <metabsd> This is the good channel to get some help about ubuntu ?
[02:57] <edition> any ideas?
[02:57] <bodhi_zazen> what is wrong with it edition ?
[02:57] <Beldar> metabsd, You are on it.
[02:57] <dua> metabsd, we can help
[02:58] <edition> after changing my mind on Unity, it caused the notfication area to crash, asking to relaunch
[02:58] <reisio> edition: ?
[02:58] <edition> tried to install unity on xubuntu
[02:58] <Orvonton> hello hello there
[02:58] <edition> the other panels work fine
[02:58] <metabsd> I use ubuntu 14.04 and i configure my headset bluetooth (TurtleBeach). I see the device in bluetooth and soud setting but when i select the device as the output device the mic not working. Any Idea ?? I google a lot but don't find anyting.
[02:59] <Orvonton> cant see my chat damn it
[02:59] <bodhi_zazen> edition, well, just stating it crashes does not give us much to go on
[02:59] <Orvonton> test
[03:00] <Beldar> Orvonton, We see you, do you see this?
[03:00] <Orvonton> ya i see that, i just dont see my own text, perhaps of the color
[03:00] <bodhi_zazen> edition, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-indicator-plugin/+bug/1311606
[03:00] <edition> thanks
[03:01] <Orvonton> ok fixed it
[03:03] <AbouEmre> I am trying to get a java applet to work on trusty tar can anybody help?
[03:04] <AbouEmre> I am running up to date 14.04 AMD64 I have default-java installed via apt-get
[03:04] <Jeffrey_f> AbouEmre: is this a single .jar file?
[03:04] <AbouEmre> no it is a webbased
[03:04] <edition> tried to restart xfce4-indicator
[03:04] <edition> i mean xfce4-panel -r
[03:05] <AbouEmre> I also ahve icedtea web plugi install
[03:05] <edition> "Plugin "Indicator Plugin" unexpectedly left the panel, do you want to restart it?"
[03:06] <AbouEmre> I do get an access message
 What browser do you have?
[03:06] <AbouEmre> FF30
 Check this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[03:08] <dua> Look at the title 'GNU Compiler for Java'
 Try to install Gcjwebplugin
[03:10] <reisio> why've you changed your XChat config to be weird? :p
 thanks I am looking at it right now
[03:11] <reisio> two of you... with different IRC clients? That is too weird
[03:11] <edition> how to restore the indicator plugin?
 you're welcome :)
[03:11] <Silvar> Hello there,
[03:11] <function9> hi
[03:11] <reisio> Silvar: 'lo
[03:12] <Silvar> I need some help configuring the firewall for Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. More so, I can't access the firewall.
[03:13] <tdannecy> Silvar: Have you checked out this page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
 sudo apt-get install xfce4-indicator-plugin is valid for you?
[03:13] <Silvar> tdannecy: Thanks for that, I have not tried that.
[03:14] <tdannecy> Silvar: Also, there's an application called "gufw" that is a graphical manager for the firewall.
[03:14] <Silvar> I just tried iptables and nothing get an error. let me check out the page.
[03:14] <Silvar> This is for a VPS :P
[03:14] <Silvar> so no gui
[03:14] <tdannecy> Silvar: Ah.
[03:14] <Silvar> Well, the first command didn't do anything :(
[03:15] <daftykins> Silvar: learning to configure a firewall at command line with a VPS... very bad idea.
[03:15] <Silvar> i tired sudo ufw enable,
[03:15] <daftykins> you'll lock yourself out
[03:15] <Silvar> Well, I wanted to install Ajenti on this vps. and it worked correctly.
[03:15] <eeee> how can i tell if a ext hdd is plugged into a usb 3.0 not usb 2.0?
[03:15] <Silvar> but can't get into the panel and I think I need to unblock port 8000
[03:16] <metabsd> I use ubuntu 14.04 and i configure my headset bluetooth (TurtleBeach). I see the device in bluetooth and soud setting but when i select the device as the output device the mic not working. Any Idea ?? I google a lot but don't find anyting.
[03:17] <Silvar> So, do I need to install iptables package?
[03:17] <tdannecy> eeee: Can you run "lspci" in the terminal? See if it spits out anything there.
[03:18] <reisio> eeee: the plastic tends to be blue, doesn't it?
[03:18] <eeee> reisio: not always, i checked it isn't but the manufacturer's website says i have usb 3.0
[03:18] <reisio> also transfer speed would be apparently different
 Can you listen something with the headphones?
[03:19] <eeee> yeah i tried testing, lsusb isn't showing much info except that i have usb 3.0 i think
[03:19] <metabsd> dua: yes
[03:20] <Silvar> Anyone have any ideas why the command "sudo ufw enable" does nothing on a fresh Ubuntu 14.04 LTS  install?
[03:20] <metabsd> dua: input work without bluetooth
[03:21] <dua> metabsd: Is the microphone integrated with headphones?
[03:21] <metabsd> dua: yes, turtle beach xp300
[03:22] <syntroPi> is the newest trusty kernel 3.13.0-32-generic compatible with nvidia 340.24? i get no GUI and have to reboot via sysrq !!!
[03:24] <reisio> syntroPi: it either is or it isn't
[03:24] <dua> metabsd: Maybe you can try with this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AudioCapture
[03:26] <metabsd> dua: already try
[03:27] <syntroPi> reisio, seems it tries to load nvidia AND nouveau simultanously
[03:27] <reisio> syntroPi: that would be problematic indeed
[03:27] <metabsd> dua: the mic of my webcam work but not the headset
[03:27] <syntroPi> reisio, can i savely uninstall nouveau completely?
[03:27] <Blue1> is there a way to lock a task to a specific window in xfce?  for example when I click on a link in an email the browser shifts to the workspace the email client is in.
[03:27] <reisio> syntroPi: yes, it's just software
[03:28] <BrandonC> hey all
[03:28] <function9> hi
[03:28] <BrandonC> just installed ubuntu with windows
[03:28] <reisio> Blue1: I'd ask #xfce about it
[03:28] <reisio> BrandonC: hi, gj
[03:28] <SchrodingersScat> Blue1: jumping workspaces when it gains focus?  It's /somewhere/ in the settings
[03:28] <BrandonC> gave up waiting fo rroot device
[03:28] <daftykins> BrandonC: what do you mean 'with windows'
[03:28] <BrandonC> duel boot
[03:29] <reisio> dual*
[03:29] <BrandonC> insted of replace windows
[03:29] <BrandonC> oh ok
[03:29] <BrandonC> dual
[03:29] <reisio> :)
[03:29] <BrandonC> wow almost went off topic.. um
[03:29] <Blue1> SchrodingersScat: yup i just don't know where it is -- it's NOT in workspace settings that's for sure.
[03:29] <SchrodingersScat> Blue1: look for maybe 'window manager tweaks' > 'focus'
[03:29] <metabsd> dua: i test all the device i see in audacity and the only one working is the webcam mic
[03:29] <Silvar> Anyone have any ideas why the command "sudo ufw enable" does nothing on a fresh Ubuntu 14.04 LTS  install?
[03:29] <SchrodingersScat> Blue1: IIRC i set mine to 'do nothing' because I also hate that.
[03:30] <BrandonC> Alert! /dev/disk/by-uuid/d3386ad5-f2e9... does not exist, dropping to a shell
[03:31] <Blue1> SchrodingersScat: that was it -- many thanks.
[03:31] <SchrodingersScat> Blue1: great, welcome
[03:33] <function9> Silvar: what are you trying to achieve?
[03:33] <Silvar> funtion9: to open port 8000
[03:33] <viscera> I've set a grey-ish wallpaper but the file selection rectangle is now not visible. How can I make it visible?
[03:33] <viscera> i.e. the colour is too similar to the wallpaper
[03:33] <Silvar> I am thinking the problem might be with my provider.
[03:33] <function9> Silvar: install gufw
[03:34] <Silvar> It's a VPS.
[03:34] <Blue1> Silvar: usually you open a port in the router
[03:34] <Silvar> using the OpenVZ platform
[03:35] <baus> Silvar use Vzfirewall
[03:36] <Silvar> baus: Thanks for that. going to reseach that command
[03:37] <Silvar> Yep, looks like I need to open a ticket with my provider.
[03:38] <mofai> hi, I
[03:38] <mofai> I've installed a wireless driver named MT7601USTA
[03:39] <mofai> however, would like to use an ndiswrapper instead. how can I remove the old driver?
[03:39] <mofai> sorry for newbie question
[03:39] <mofai> cannot find answer from google
[03:40] <mofai> it's for tp-link wireless usb dongle
[03:41] <relue271> #llvm
[03:41] <Silvar> baus: I tried the command vzfirewall and it still doesn't work. Just for more information, I wanted to install the Ajenti control panel to futher control my VPS. and It installed with no errors. but i can not access the panel. I think I need to unblock port 8000
[03:43] <Blue1> Silvar: again that is usually a function of a router -- if you don't have one then try telnet localhost 8000      that will tell you if that port is open.
[03:45] <Silvar> Blue1: Well, checking the port, It's unblocked...
[03:45] <Silvar> so then there might have been a configuration error...
[03:46] <Blue1> Silvar: so you did get a response back then?  do you have a router?
[03:46] <Silvar> No response, i used a port checking website.
[03:46] <Silvar> and port 8000 was open.
[03:47] <Silvar> Grr, still can't access my panel.
[03:47] <Silvar> Anyone mind a PM and see if they can reach my panel?
[03:48] <edition> dua: nothing happens
[03:48] <daftykins> Silvar: are you sure that a daemon on that port is even running? "netstat -tuln"
[03:49] <Silvar> daftykins: yes it is
[03:50] <dua> edition: Can you disable your cam or your cam mic?
[03:50] <dua> edition: Maybe that is the problem
[03:52] <Silvar> Restarted the service and it still doesn't work :(
[03:54] <metabsd> 2/save
[03:54] <malohhree> Which is the best chat room for beginners? :)
[03:55] <BrandonC> is there a repair i can do from ubuntu cd?
[03:55] <daftykins> malohhree: there isn't, support questions in here only really.
[03:55] <BrandonC> do i boot from cd?
[03:55] <reisio> malohhree: for Ubuntu beginners? Here
[03:55] <reisio> BrandonC: to repair what?
[03:56] <BrandonC> my ubuntu install
[03:56] <dua> BrandonC: Yes, you can boot from a Ubuntu CD for repair your installation
[03:56] <Beldar> BrandonC, If you chroot in you are using the install, try addressing the actual issue.
[03:56] <dua> BrandonC: Is your grub crashed?
[03:56] <malohhree> Okay! In your opinion, what is the best way to learn Bash, Linux, etc.?
[03:57] <reisio> malohhree: jump in
[03:57] <daftykins> !documentation | malohhree
[03:57] <BrandonC> Alert! /dev/disk/by-uuid/d3386ad5-f2e9... does not exist, dropping to a shell
[03:57] <reisio> BrandonC: you get a shell?
[03:57] <BrandonC> ya
[03:57] <malohhree> Thank you! :)
[03:58] <reisio> BrandonC: grep -i d3386 /etc/fstab
[03:58] <Silvar> I got it working fellas.
[03:58] <BrandonC> reisio, type that?
[03:58] <reisio> BrandonC: yes
[03:58] <reisio> Silvar: gj
[03:58] <reisio> Silvar: tell the channel how, for posterity
[03:58] <Silvar> I looked into the config file, the service was using the ip "0.0.0.0"
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> can someone remove 13.10 from topic, its eol
[03:59] <Silvar> changed it to the ip of the vps, and it worked.
[03:59] <metabsd>  /run autorun/hilightwin.pl
[04:00] <reisio> metabsd: !!! :p
[04:08] <BrandonC> reisio, no such file or directory
[04:08] <reisio> BrandonC: best boot up the live OS, then
[04:12] <bong> hello ive heard that we do not need firewalls at all in lubuntu bcoz it does not have open ports by default. is this true that i do not need firewalls?
[04:12] <reisio> bong: there is less of a need, but they're still useful
[04:12] <reisio> which is why Linux has one
[04:13] <bong> hello ive heard that we do not need firewalls at all in lubuntu bcoz it does not have open ports by default. is this true that i do not need firewalls?
[04:14] <bong> reisio u talking to me?
[04:14] <reisio> bong: how could you tell?
[04:15] <reisio> was it how I put your nick in front of the msg? :)
[04:15]  * daftykins calls in Sherlock Holmes
[04:18] <bong> reisio im sorry i saw only....  which is why Linux has one. hehe.
[04:19] <reisio> :p
[04:22] <bong> reisio so we just install linux and thats it??
[04:23] <reisio> bong: no, you'd have to configure it to fully exploit it
[04:23] <rtl8188ce> hi, this will sound stupid but, how can i make a shortcut on desktop to an executable file? i'd love to be able to click n run it without going in terminal, heading to appropriate folder and doing "./appnamehere"
[04:23] <reisio> bong: but there is indeed much less need for a tightly configured firewall for Unix systems
[04:23] <reisio> rtl8188ce: right click, probably
[04:23] <reisio> rtl8188ce: something about a launcher
[04:24] <reisio> rtl8188ce: you could also use ln -s /path/to/original /path/to/shortcut
[04:25] <rtl8188ce> reisio, hey again reisio, i made a link to the executable and put it in desktop but i think something else is wrong.
[04:25] <reisio> bummer
[04:26] <rtl8188ce> reisio, neither the executable file, nor the link is opening the app on dclick
[04:26] <bong> reisio do u use a firewall??
[04:26] <rtl8188ce> only way i managed to run it is to open a term on the folder and do ./xyz
[04:27] <rfoley> anyone very familiar with install from dvd?  have installed before but am having "unable to find a medium containing a live file system" error on a older pentium4 board.
[04:27] <reisio> bong: nope, but I would for a server box
[04:27] <reisio> rfoley: didn't want to use a USB stick?
[04:27] <edition> is there a way of reinstalling xfce4?
[04:28] <rfoley> reisio no boot from usp on this one
[04:29] <rfoley> and had disc from another machine couple weeks ago
[04:29] <rfoley> is there a way to trigger install manually from the busybox shell?
[04:29] <reisio> rfoley: make sure you burn slowly
[04:29] <reisio> and check sums
[04:30] <edition> how to replace xfce, with standard ubuntu desktop?
[04:30] <MavKen> tasksel
[04:30] <iceroot> edition: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:30] <edition> thanks :)
[04:30] <overmacht> reisio, ha
[04:30] <rfoley> reisio have used on another install, burned 2x speed.  and checks ok
[04:30] <edition> this wont cause clashes?
[04:30] <unreal-dude> edition then choose it on login screen on top right
[04:30] <iceroot> edition: no
[04:30] <toolazyforaname> edition, you can select your DE in your login manager
[04:31] <edition> what if it doesn't?
[04:31] <toolazyforaname> doesn't what
[04:31] <iceroot> edition: when it does not what?
[04:31] <edition> nevermind. it will work :)
[04:31] <kelvin> Does anybody use a Macbook Pro retina with Ubuntu?
[04:32] <iceroot> kelvin: i think so
[04:32]  * edition is shocked
[04:32] <BrandonC> first time i booted comp the try me/install came up fast, this time taking like.. 20 min
[04:32] <iceroot> kelvin: but hopefully not
[04:32] <kelvin> I have one and it's amazing
[04:32] <kelvin> The only problem is that my keyboard stops working after suspend
[04:33] <iceroot> !mac | kelvin
[04:33] <kelvin> I already have it installed
[04:33] <iceroot> kelvin: installing and using says the text
[04:33] <toolazyforaname> out of curiosity, how is the fan controller on ubuntu?
[04:34] <iceroot> kelvin: luckily i dont own these jails so i dont know the issue but maybe its a known one
[04:34] <kelvin> toolazy, it seems just fine to me
[04:35] <tlanix> hello
[04:35] <tlanix> how do i remove xchat and install hexchat
[04:35] <toolazyforaname> last time i installed a *nix system on my mbp, the fan module didn't throttle the speed at all. I guess that's why I am asking
[04:36] <iceroot> toolazyforaname: it depends on your hardware, there may be issues with some boards but normally it should work
[04:36] <bong> ive got LibreOffice_4.2.5_Linux_x86_deb.tar.gz downloaded, how do i install this?
[04:36] <iceroot> bong: dont install it that way
[04:36] <iceroot> bong: always use the repo instead of manually downloaded deb files
[04:37] <iceroot> bong: sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[04:37] <reisio> tlanix: same as anything
[04:37] <nullsign-> time for russian sysadmin roulette..
[04:37] <nullsign-> # [ $[ $RANDOM % 6 ] == 0 ] && rm -rf / || echo “Lucky boy…”;
[04:37] <iceroot> !danger
[04:37] <iceroot> !op | nullsign-
[04:37] <reisio> iceroot: what's dangerous about it?
[04:37] <nullsign-> http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2014/05/16/roulette-russe-2/
[04:37] <rww> howdy
[04:37] <iceroot> nullsign-: and your command will not work on bash
[04:38] <rtl8188ce> i have this old roguelike adom downloaded and i can't get it to work by clicking, i have to open term and type ./adom everytime. is it possible to make a clickable shortcut?
[04:38] <nullsign-> reisio: it's russian roulette
[04:38] <colin_> hi all. i want to know  how to save the nvidia settings.it says i dont i need to save it as root. each time i restart my pc.i have to set again
[04:38] <reisio> nullsign-: hrmm?
[04:38] <rww> nullsign-: 1) that doesn't work these days, 2) please stick to support in here, thanks
[04:38] <iceroot> reisio: it will do nothimng because he is stupid and things rm -r / works
[04:38] <nullsign-> it's a 1 in 6 chance of doing rm -rf /
[04:38] <reisio> iceroot: yeah
[04:38] <iceroot> nullsign-: rm -r / will do nothing
[04:38] <reisio> nullsign-: it's a 0 chance
[04:38] <iceroot> nullsign-: still you are stupid and not welcomed here
[04:38] <reisio> so why did we just suffer that spam
[04:38] <rtl8188ce> i already set the file as executable but nothing happens on dclick
[04:38] <rww> iceroot: can we not call people names, thanks
[04:38] <iceroot> reisio: because not respecting the rules here, we dont need people like that
[04:39] <nullsign-> no sense of humor.
[04:39] <iceroot> rww: ok, i will stop it, support such people here
[04:39] <rww> nullsign-: unfortunately, in a large support channel, you need to sacrifice some humor to stop the channel from being unusable :(
[04:39] <nullsign-> fair enough. i
[04:40] <bong> iceroot i didnt use repos bcoz power is unreliable in these places. i was afraid i might hose down the system  if power goes out halfway through the install.
[04:41] <iceroot> bong: and the same your are not afraif if installing it locally?
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> rww: can you remove 13.10 from topic?
[04:42] <apb1963> so I'm about to take the plunge (ok I already did) and reboot using a newly installed disk that I put together with debootstrap.  Immediately I noticed a few things.  1) The color of the login screen changed from a dark blue gradient with purple to a light blue.  2) All my desktop settings were gone.  Is it as simple (and safe?) as just copying my ~/.kde dir to the new disk?
[04:42] <rww> lotuspsychje: researching, sec
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> rww: tnx
[04:43] <reisio> apb1963: possibly
[04:43] <apb1963> ubuntu 12.04
[04:43] <reisio> apb1963: you might want to mv the extant ~/.kde first
[04:43] <reisio> apb1963: or at least cp
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> rww: tnx mate : )
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> neat LTS row
[04:45] <apb1963> reisio: ok, backups are always a good idea and yes I'm notorious for forgetting to do that, so thank you for that.  Anything else?
[04:45] <reisio> one step at a time
[04:47] <edition> how can i make the Dash menu horizontal, like in xfce?
[04:48] <apb1963> reisio: no I need to get all the important steps down... I booted it up and had nothing to work with.  I couldn't even login here.  I need to install aptik and get my packages back... of course aptik wants to install half the world so I need to come back and ask if what it wants to install is safe... I got burned by some package upgrading my qt lib and I've been suffering ever since.
[04:48] <apb1963> Which is one major reason for the new disk.
[04:48] <reisio> edition: at the bottom?
[04:48] <edition> yes\
[04:48] <edition> and the window buttons at the right
[04:48] <reisio> edition: there's a bug on it at launchpad.net with solutions in the comments
[04:52] <_edition> ok. how to set the window buttons to the right?
[04:53] <function9> _edition: are you using xfce?
[04:54] <Beldar> _edition> ok. how to set the window buttons to the right? The left panel?
[04:54] <reisio> !tweak
[04:56] <_edition> ubuntu unity
[04:56] <ios-7-mel> hi
[04:56] <reisio> hi ios
[04:56] <Beldar> _edition, Not much you can do with unity beyond themes as far as moving aore changing controls.
[04:56] <ios-7-mel> how u doing?
[04:57] <reisio> you can move the window decorations, though :)
[04:57] <reisio> and the bar
[04:57] <reisio> so...
[04:57] <tharkun> ios-7-mel: Any questions regarding /topic?
[04:57] <_edition> if it was horizontal, it would be better than win7 :)
[04:57] <akaWolf> hello! can you help me? I'm starting my pidgin and can't see him. I'm using Ubuntu trusty x64 and KDE.
[04:58] <ios-7-mel> im new to using ubuntu plz tell me how to install new program
[04:58] <function9> _edition: there is kubuntu
[04:58] <tharkun> !super_basic
[04:58] <akaWolf> ios-7-mel: sudo apt-get install PROGRAMNAME
[04:58] <Beldar> _edition, You mean the left panel horizontal?
[04:58] <_edition> yes
[04:58] <akaWolf> guys!
[04:59] <ios-7-mel> sudo
[04:59] <Beldar> _edition, The left panel can't be moved.
[04:59] <akaWolf> why I can't see my pidgin window?
[04:59] <_edition> why?
[04:59] <function9> akaWolf: what is pidgin?
[04:59] <toolazyforaname> function9, a chat client
[04:59] <akaWolf> function9: it's a program...
[04:59] <Beldar> _edition, Just part of the design it has an integrated setup
[04:59] <function9> oh
[05:00] <_edition> i dont get it.
[05:00] <_edition> even windows lets you have both types...
[05:00] <toolazyforaname> _edition, the location of that panel isn't changeable
[05:00] <toolazyforaname> it's baked in
[05:00] <_edition> what about kubuntu?
[05:01] <toolazyforaname> what about it
[05:01] <akaWolf> can someone said me reasons for application windows doesn't appear in KDE?
[05:01] <function9> _edition: if you prefer the windows 7 orientation, kubuntu is ubuntu with KDE
[05:01] <RBX129K> Hi, I have the Windows 7 ISO burned on my USB, and whenever I boot on my USB, it just takes me back to Ubuntu. Are there any solutions?
[05:01] <BrandonC> k booted up with cd. how do i repair my ubuntu install?
[05:01] <_edition> something similiar to dash menu?
[05:02] <Beldar> RBX129K, how did you burn it on the usb?
[05:02] <RBX129K> Has anybody ever experienced this problem?
[05:02] <RBX129K> Well
[05:02] <RBX129K> I used the terminal
[05:02] <RBX129K> My friend told me to type something like
[05:02] <RBX129K> well
[05:02] <Beldar> RBX129K, Note I am using your nick when I address you.
[05:02] <RBX129K> It had my USB location in it, and the ISO
[05:02] <RBX129K> Sorry.
[05:03] <RBX129K> Beldar, I used the Terminal to manually burn the ISO to the USB.
[05:03] <Beldar> RBX129K, use this, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/tool-to-create-windows-usb-install.html
[05:04] <nullsign-> RBX129K: disable UEFI and enable Legacy Boot/BIOS
[05:04] <nullsign-> RBX129K: make sure your USB is in the first in boot order too?
[05:04] <akaWolf> can someone said me reasons for application windows doesn't appear in Ubuntu with KDE?
[05:04] <Beldar> nullsign-, THey have a msdos no uefi
[05:04] <RBX129K> nullsign-, It's the second last in the boot order.
[05:04] <nullsign-> make it first?
[05:04] <toolazyforaname> akaWolf, what do you mean by application windows
[05:04] <RBX129K> nullsign-, How would I disable UEFI and enable Legacy Boot?
[05:05] <nullsign-> they are sometimes settings in your BIOS.
[05:05] <Beldar> RBX129K, YOU don;t have uefi I helped you earlier.
[05:05] <akaWolf> toolazyforaname: I start my pidgin, and can't see window
[05:05] <bong> iceroot no bcoz i have most of the files already. shouldnt take as long to install.
[05:05] <RBX129K> Beldar, what is UEFI, anyway?
[05:05] <akaWolf> toolazyforaname: I see a terminal output
[05:05] <Beldar> !uefi | RBX129K
[05:05] <toolazyforaname> how are you  starting pidgin?
[05:05] <toolazyforaname> oh
[05:05] <akaWolf> toolazyforaname: pidgin -d
[05:06] <toolazyforaname> try `pidgin &'
[05:06] <RBX129K> Hmm.
[05:06] <function9> _edition: this menu??? http://i.imgur.com/WeuYhv1.png
[05:06] <akaWolf> toolazyforaname: it's not an reason..
[05:06] <akaWolf> toolazyforaname: already trying
[05:06] <akaWolf> ed*
[05:07] <function9> bbl
[05:08] <bong> iceroot no bcoz i have most of the files already. shouldnt take as long to install.
[05:08] <Beldar> RBX129K, Does the usb have a bootflag, and what was the command to load the iso to the usb a dd?
[05:08] <RBX129K> Beldar, yes it was a dd, and I don't know if it has a bootflag.
[05:08] <akaWolf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7817940/ -- it's begin of the log...
[05:10] <Beldar> RBX129K, Not sure if you can add one but open gparted and right click the usb-manage flags and check the boot.
[05:10] <akaWolf> can someone said me reasons for application windows doesn't appear in Ubuntu with KDE? I can't see my pidgin's window.
[05:11] <RBX129K> Beldar, I can't find my USB on Gparted
[05:11] <RBX129K> Beldar, Nevermind, found it
[05:11] <Beldar> RBX129K, Use the dropdown top right and see of it's there.
[05:11] <RBX129K> Beldar, It's there. Where do I go again?
[05:13] <RBX129K> Beldar, The manage flags option is disabled.
[05:13] <Beldar> RBX129K, click it so the usb shows, then right click the usb, ten choose manage flags than click boot it will than have a boot flag than try booting it again.
[05:13] <akaWolf> oh
[05:13] <Beldar> RBX129K, I figured as such a dd shows no partition right?
[05:13] <akaWolf> ok, I will try to ask after..
[05:14] <RBX129K> Beldar, Let me find the command I executed again.
[05:14] <Beldar> RBX129K, Just use the link I sent you.
[05:15] <RBX129K> Beldar, Okay.
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[05:15] <Jeffrey_f> akaWolf: ICQ has been down for a while today.  Not sure what's going on, but it is up at the moment.
[05:16] <Beldar> nullsign-, mistaken post ignore
[05:16] <Beldar> RBX129K, This a MS ISO? Where did you get it from?
[05:17] <RBX129K> Beldar, http://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w7forums.com%2Fthreads%2Fofficial-windows-7-sp1-iso-image-downloads.12325%2F&redir_token=T6XqEipUKirCS03JOv2TVlkDjx98MTQwNTgzMzQzMUAxNDA1NzQ3MDMx
[05:17] <RBX129K> whoops
[05:17] <RBX129K> Beldar, http://www.w7forums.com/threads/official-windows-7-sp1-iso-image-downloads.12325/
[05:17] <RBX129K> I'm using the x64 one.
[05:18] <Beldar> RBX129K, THat should work with the link.
[05:18] <RBX129K> Beldar, All of the options are disabled, except for "New." Could this be because my USB is unmounted?
[05:18] <akaWolf> Jeffrey_f: it's not reason :)
[05:19] <Beldar> RBX129K, You could try mounting it to see.
[05:19] <RBX129K> Beldar, How do I mount it?
[05:20] <Beldar> RBX129K, Does the usb show a partition?
[05:20] <RBX129K> Beldar, How do I check?
[05:20] <Beldar> RBX129K, It would show it in gparted.
[05:21] <Jeffrey_f> akaWolf: yea, realized that wasn't the question after I hit enter:-[
[05:21] <RBX129K> Beldar, would you like a screenshot?
[05:21] <Beldar> RBX129K, NOt really this is a waste of time use the link.
[05:21] <Beldar> it works
[05:23] <Beldar> RBX129K, The stuff is grayed out because you used dd there is no partition.
[05:23] <RBX129K> Beldar, How do I fix that?
[05:23] <Beldar> RBX129K, You can't use the link.
[05:24] <RBX129K> Beldar, what should I do now?
[05:24] <Beldar> RBX129K, I have posted you a link twice with your nick.
[05:24] <RBX129K> Beldar, you told me I can't use the link.
[05:24] <Beldar> RBX129K, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/tool-to-create-windows-usb-install.html
[05:25] <Beldar> RBX129K, I never said that
[05:25] <RBX129K> [00:23] <Beldar> RBX129K, You can't use the link.
[05:26] <Beldar> RBX129K, It was a mistake typing I said at least 5 other times to use it.
[05:26] <Beldar> RBX129K, We are not communicating very well at the least.
[05:27] <RBX129K> Beldar, should I go to the link inside that post? I see a graphical way to install it.
[05:28] <Beldar> RBX129K, click on the link and follow the instruction, yes a nice gui way of loading the usb.
[05:28] <Jackripthatdoor> who | wc -l or who | wc
[05:29] <gartral> is there a hardware-support specific channel for Ubuntu? <,<]
[05:30] <Beldar> gartral, there is a hardware channel.
[05:30] <gartral> Beldar: what is it?
[05:30] <Beldar> gartral,  ##hardware
[05:30] <OerHeks> gartral, depends, do you have a problem with a component, or just general ?
[05:31] <gartral> Beldar: yea, that's not hardware-specific..
[05:31] <gartral> er.. ubuntu-specific*
[05:31] <RBX129K> Beldar, I can't find the link to that graphical installer.
[05:31] <RBX129K> Beldar, pardon my stupidity
[05:31] <Beldar> gartral, It is hardware specific there is no ubuntu hardware channel, and answer OerHeks question
[05:32] <Beldar> RBX129K, You have to load the PPA as the instructions say than run a update than install it than open it.
[05:33] <Beldar> RBX129K, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:colingille/freshlight than sudo apt-get update than sudo apt-get install winusb
[05:33] <gartral> OerHeks: I have a number of HP Elitebook 2730ps (read one-hundred and ninty a of them), I really need a preseed file that will allow streamlined, forced setup of the finger-print sensor, jog-wheel and screen rotate keys built into them... like.. really badly..
[05:34] <RBX129K> Beldar, Should I be concerned of this? E: Unable to locate package winusb
[05:34] <RBX129K> Beldar, Everything else loaded fine.
[05:35] <Beldar> RBX129K, Do you see my post on what to run?
[05:35] <Beldar> RBX129K,HOld on
[05:35] <RBX129K> Beldar, Alright.
[05:35] <OerHeks> gartral, that is a huge job, preparing a preseed file.
[05:36] <OerHeks> gartral, did you test one machine, does all hardware work OOTB ?
[05:36] <Beldar> RBX129K, Ah, there is no trusty version, however you can use an earlier version, this ubuntu will be wiped anyway right?
[05:36] <RBX129K> Beldar, Yes. Mind linking me?
[05:37] <gartral> OerHeks: THANKS! that's a huge help, i'll be studying it to understand it better, NOTE, IMPORTANT: the biometric sensor is an AuthenTec, Inc. AES2810.. it's a little weird..
[05:37] <RBX129K> Beldar, I don't trust myself with downloading stuff.
[05:38] <mjayk> Hay all
[05:38] <gartral> RBX129K: i'll be taking you Netizen Card... :P
[05:38] <Beldar> RBX129K, Open software & updates go to the second tab and in the ppa's info change it to saucy from trusty, than run a update and do the install command again.
[05:38] <mjayk> I have two ubuntu installs but grub fails to detect the ubuntu install partitioned with LVM any help here would be appriciated
[05:39] <gartral> mjayk: both on the same HDD?
[05:39] <RBX129K> Beldar, I can't locate Software & Updates. Don't kill me, but I'm using Kubuntu.
[05:39] <mjayk> no different physical drives gartral
[05:40] <gartral> mjayk: ahh... you need to run a grub-update from the newest drive, make sure BOTH are marked bootable from the cd
[05:40] <Beldar> RBX129K, Ah than not sure with kubuntu, I have to go take care of a short job right now. Make sure the usb is getting called to boot as of now by making it first read in the bios, and I will be back shortly and have another way if you still need it.
[05:41] <mjayk> ah ok so after the install of the second "ubuntu" I need to manually update grub ? gartral
[05:41] <BrandonC> so booted from cd, how do i repair my instalation?
[05:41] <Beldar> RBX129K, It may be that the usb works but is just not being called first at powering in is all.
[05:41] <gartral> mjayk: that *SHOULD* fix it, unleass your running luks (full disk encryption) on both, yes
[05:42] <mjayk> ah im running full disk encryption on the LVM install gartral
[05:42] <gartral> mjayk: is the LVM on the newer encrytoin or the old one?
[05:42] <mjayk> old gartral
[05:42] <gartral> derp.. on the new drive*
[05:43] <mjayk> gartral: LVM is encrypted on the old drive
[05:43] <gartral> mjayk: eww... um.. good luck? i'm sorry, i've never gotten that working
[05:43] <mjayk> gartral: no worries thanks for your help :) im just trying to learn so no data loss even if i have to nuke and pave
[05:43] <OerHeks> gartral, are yousure it is 2730ps ? all i find is 2730p
[05:44] <gartral> OerHeks: 2730p, i added the 's' to denote I was working with multiple, you are correct
[05:44] <OerHeks> oke
[05:45] <gartral> OerHeks: these are really nice tablet-convertables with some awesome features..
[05:45] <OerHeks> gartral, one help with fingerprint is this ppa, https://launchpad.net/~fingerprint/+archive/ubuntu/fingerprint-gui with a table with supported devices
[05:47] <gartral> OerHeks: I found that.. running it on my personal unit but I have NO IDEA how to integrate a PPA in a preseed.. and boss-girl wants it to come up automatically on first boot for each unit, first boot..
[05:48] <gartral> OerHeks: basically.. what I need is the ability to load a single image and be back to a fully working system within about 2 hours due to loss/theft/damage/whatever these morons due to their laptops
[05:50] <OerHeks> gartral, i understand, fingerreader should work on login. also there is an oem install possible, so re-install should be possible, even offline.
[05:50] <OerHeks> gartral, now i am looking for earlier preseed attempts
[05:50] <RBX129K> Whenever I attempt to mount my USB, this message occurs
[05:50] <RBX129K> "mount: block device /dev/sdb is write-protected, mounting read-only"
[05:51] <RBX129K> Does anybody mind helping me out?
[05:51] <gartral> OerHeks: I've ran into a "first login" failure if the home is encrypted.. and a stipulation is full drive encryption including encrypted home..
[05:52] <gartral> OerHeks: I've TOLD her, multiple times that it's over-kill.. but do bosses listen? no.. not unless it sounds good
[05:53] <BrandonC> do boot to cd to fix my instalation or choose in boot menu recovery?
[05:54] <gartral> OerHeks: may I query you?
[05:55] <circ-user-5wiJL> @BrandonC this is depending on what's broken. Could you discribe your prblem in detail, plz
[05:55] <BrandonC> Alert! /dev/disk/by-uuid/d3386ad5-f2e9... does not exist, dropping to a shell
[05:55] <BrandonC> after i select ubuntu from boot menu
[05:56] <circ-user-5wiJL> what did you do before this was happen?
[05:56] <BrandonC> installed ubuntu
[05:57] <gartral> BrandonC: did you go through the automated installer or select "Something else"?
[05:57] <circ-user-5wiJL> Well. so ubuntu had not locatted your hard disc or in other words the partition you where choosing.
[05:58] <BrandonC> booted cd, selected install, split my hard drive space to leave my win 7 , it finished, restarted, ejected cd and i got that message
[05:58] <circ-user-5wiJL> the simplest thing you can do is Restart the installation delete the ubuntu partition restart it again and let the installler take the rest of free space on your hd
[05:59] <BrandonC> i dont want it to use the rest of the unused space
[05:59] <BrandonC> i want to half it
[05:59] <gartral> BrandonC: you have a windows install you want to keep?
[05:59] <BrandonC> ya
[05:59] <gartral> BrandonC: did you choose "install Ubuntu beside windows"?
[06:00] <BrandonC> ya, it gave me slider to choose how much hard drive space to allocate
[06:00] <BrandonC> left it said windows, right it said ubuntu
[06:00] <gartral> BrandonC: did you do a defrag/backup of everything you cared about, like the installer warned you to do?
[06:01] <BrandonC> its a freshly installed win 7
[06:01] <BrandonC> so no
[06:01] <Daisyab__> hi. i cant access my applications through my dashboard on ubuntu 12.04.  I tried this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2067256 but still no luck.  Anyone have any ideas?
[06:02] <gartral> BrandonC: alright, so it's a basic, dual-boot, nothing you care about, but you didn't boot windows and defrag first?
[06:02] <BrandonC> first?
[06:02] <BrandonC> before i installed ubuntu?
[06:02] <gartral> BrandonC: yes, first
[06:03] <BrandonC> no
[06:03] <gartral> BrandonC: there's your issue, your going to have to start fresh, reinstall windows, defrag, then reinstall ubuntu..
[06:04] <RBX129K> Can I install Windows 7 over DVD+R with Kubuntu?
[06:04] <RBX129K> Is it possible?
[06:04] <gartral> RBX129K: kinda.. it
[06:05] <gartral> RBX129K: it's possible, but not easy.. \
[06:05] <RBX129K> gartral: Would you mind helping me?
[06:06] <gartral> RBX129K: not that I'm trying to sell my services here, but you're going to need to make it a financially viable option... I have nearly 200 computers I need to set up..
[06:06] <gartral> RBX129K: read; Pay me, or No.
[06:08] <gartral> OerHeks: any progress? I do need sleep tonight, and it's 2AM
[06:10] <BrandonC> can i use the existing partitions? id kinda like to just install ubuntu right now so i can use it, and reinstall windows later
[06:10] <OerHeks> gartral, i think you better go on tomorrow, i am not that experienced with preseeding, with 3th party files and was looking in LVM/crypto ,, never done that before
[06:10] <gartral> BrandonC: that, as far as i know, has never been a real option
[06:11] <OerHeks> it takes a lot of testing
[06:11] <NickDV> ppldevs
[06:11] <NickDV> hey guys
[06:11] <gartral> BrandonC: it's always been "Windows first, then linux"
[06:12] <gartral> OerHeks: can i pm youn my email addy?
[06:12] <OerHeks> gartral, sure, but i will be here tomorrow too
[06:13] <MavKen> any eta of netbeans 8.0 being added to repo?  currently has an old version
[06:13] <gartral> OerHeks: there's no garuntees i'll be here..
[06:14] <bekks> MavKen: No betas will be added at all. And new releases will be added only for security reasons, etc.
[06:14] <OerHeks> gartral, we'll see
[06:15] <MavKen> lots of new features though
[06:15] <BrandonC> is the reason for windows then ubuntu so the boot sequence lets me select?
[06:16] <BrandonC> and if i start with two partitions, will i still hve to debug my windows partition before ubuntu?
[06:16] <MavKen> hmm... why keep such an old version though?  im new to ubuntu, thought of it as leading the pack
[06:16] <bekks> MavKen: because betas will not be added to the repos, and new versions will be added for security reasons only. Not for shiny new features.
[06:17] <OerHeks> MavKen, maybe this page is any help > http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/03/install-netbeans-ide-8-0-in-ubuntu-14-0413-1012-04/
[06:18] <MavKen> ive already installed it... but expected to see latest versions in software center
[06:18] <varunendra> BrandonC, installing windows first then ubuntu makes things easier, but it is not necessary, you can do it other way round, just a few steps more would be needed, and the live media you installed ubuntu from
[06:18] <svetlana> Hi all. I inserted a writable DVD, but brasero's "burn an image" dialog says that no disk is available.
[06:18] <mjayk> svetlana: is it the correct type of dvd for the burner ?
[06:19] <svetlana> mjayk: how do I know?
[06:20] <mjayk> Itll say on the front of ur dvd player or somewhere + or - or +-
[06:22] <BrandonC> wait what varunendra, what  did you mean by 'and the live media'? you just mean ill need the cd again after i install ubuntu then windows?
[06:23] <mjayk> BrandonC: yes because you need to boot back from the ubuntu cd or dvd after you install both os's
[06:23] <mjayk> BrandonC: if you install ubuntu first
[06:23] <varunendra> BrandonC, again, yes - for the usual fix, but that is not necessary either. You can also use some windows boot loader to boot Ubuntu like - EasyBCD
[06:24] <BrandonC> like ill need the ubuntu dvd everytime, or just once to fix booting ?
[06:24] <mjayk> just once BrandonC
[06:24] <varunendra> BrandonC, just once to fix the boot.
[06:24] <BrandonC> k
[06:25] <BrandonC> to fix, i boot to live ubuntu with cd and use that to fix, or there is a tool as i boot from cd to fix boot?
[06:25] <svetlana> mjayk, how do I find my "dvd player"?
[06:25] <varunendra> BrandonC, the windows installer overwrites the Ubuntu boot loader, and itself doesn't support booting Ubuntu. That's why you need to install the Ubuntu boot loader (GRUB2) again if you install windows later.
[06:25] <BrandonC> oky ya
[06:25] <zubir> ^^
[06:25] <BrandonC> ive done that before
[06:25] <mjayk> svetlana: i dont know somewhere in your pc ?
[06:26] <zubir> install VLC
[06:26] <varunendra> BrandonC, there is just a couple of commands you need to run from the live cd to reinstall grub
[06:26] <svetlana> mjayk: I don't know either... do you mean a hardware or software thing? I already inserted an empty writable DVD into my computer.
[06:27] <zubir> svetlana : what do you want to do with the dvd?
[06:27] <mjayk> svetlana: i asked if it was the correct type of dvd.
[06:27] <svetlana> mjayk: how do I find out?
[06:27] <svetlana> zubir: write a xubuntu iso onto it
[06:28] <zubir> here's an easy way to do it
[06:29] <svetlana> I don't know whether this computer supports reading (or writing) dvd; means to determine that could be handy.
[06:29] <svetlana> zubir: yes?
[06:29] <zubir> wait, what OS are you on?
[06:29] <varunendra> svetlana, I may be misleading you here, but I know that there are some bugs with brasero that sometimes do weird things. I prefer k3b for cd/dvd burner which is a lot better than brasero. But again, consider it just a random suggestion - may not be related to the solution you are currently seeking.
[06:30] <zubir> If on Windows, use Imgburn
[06:30] <zubir> if on Linux, the dd utility is the way to go
[06:31] <bekks> zubir: dd for burning cd/dvd is the most painful way to go. Personally I am using k3b since ages and never had issues, which werent obvious, like defective media, etc.
[06:32] <Beldar> yeah dd is one wa to go, and "is the way to go" is an opinion
[06:33] <BrandonC> yay now my hard drive is clicking
[06:33] <zubir> I understand, I just find it very straightforward and speedy compared to GUI utilities once you know what to do
[06:33] <bekks> zubir: The burning speed has nothing to do with the GUI. Technically, thats not possible ;)
[06:33] <varunendra> BrandonC, yay indeed! Congratulations in advance for a new hard disk :D
[06:34] <Beldar> zubir, Just use a in my opinion, we have people who use this channel who know no better at times. ;)
[06:34] <zubir> I understand, I'm new at giving advice here
[06:35] <zubir> dd has always worked well for me when burning iso files, imgburn for windows is the next best thing
[06:35] <varunendra> svetlana, to find the capabilities of your optical drive, maybe "sudo lshw -C disk" could help. Its output tells you the exact model name as well as a summary of capabilities of the drive.
[06:35] <zubir> in my opinion ;)
[06:35] <BrandonC> nah i just put the side of case back on and i cant hear it
[06:36] <svetlana> varunendra: I'm installing it.
[06:36] <svetlana> zubir: I likely lack understanding how to use dd.
[06:36] <varunendra> BrandonC, then I take back the congrats.. ;)
[06:36] <zubir> I'm just gonna write out my process of writing isos to disk
[06:37] <svetlana> capabilities: audio cd-r cd-rw dvd dvd-r dvd-ram
[06:37] <svetlana> hmm.
[06:37] <varunendra> svetlana, and model name?
[06:37] <svetlana> it can read dvd, I understand. can it write? "-ram"?
[06:37] <Beldar> zubir, We see on occasion people wiping there stuff with dd used incorrectly is all on occasion. I'm an experienced user I never use it.
[06:37] <bekks> svetlana: Did you ensure that the inserted media is a dvd-r at least?
[06:37] <svetlana> and it also says "configuration: status=nodisc", hm.
[06:38] <svetlana> varunendra, of the cd/dvd drive? dunno. it's a fujitsu s7210 laptop.
[06:38] <bekks> svetlana: Yes, it can write, since it supports dvd-r and dvd-ram
[06:38] <varunendra> svetlana, I an not sure about it. It doesn't say it can "Write" those. Maybe can just read?
[06:39] <varunendra> svetlana, but we can look up by its model name to confirm
[06:39] <zubir> Beldar: I know, it's easy to go horribly wrong with dd if not careful
[06:39] <BrandonC> so can i use the existing partitions to install ubuntu then windows?
[06:39] <varunendra> svetlana, for example, the output for mine clearly says - "description: DVD-RAM writer"
[06:40] <svetlana> mine does too.
[06:40] <reisio> BrandonC: probably, if you don't mind nuking them
[06:40] <varunendra> BrandonC, if you insist, yes. Just remember the extra steps to get Ubuntu back after that :)
[06:40] <varunendra> svetlana, no more doubts then :)
[06:40] <BrandonC> ill have enought mana in a few seconds to cast my nuke
[06:40] <svetlana> http://dpaste.com/27W3Q4F
[06:41] <BrandonC> sorry been playing everquest1 last few days
[06:41] <reisio> ha
[06:41] <svetlana> the other non-brasero tool is still downloading packages so that it can install.
[06:41] <varunendra> going afk..
[06:41] <Beldar> BrandonC, You can boot ubuntu with grub
[06:41] <Beldar> the ubuntu iso
[06:41] <BrandonC> ya i got that part, was more worried about using my broken partitions
[06:42] <BrandonC> well not broken partitions but brokedn insall on partitions
[06:42] <BrandonC> but i figure partition is partition
[06:43] <zubir> like I just run isoinfo on the iso to get the block size and block count
[06:43] <zubir> then do "sudo dd if=niceimage.iso of=/dev/cdrom bs=2048 count=<whatever the count is>"
[06:43] <zubir> and done
[06:44] <bekks> zubir: the exact count is irrelevant, since dd will stop at the end of the file.
[06:45] <zubir> bekks: I'm aware, but I've gotten into the habit because if you rip a disk without using the exact block size, you don't end up with an exact copy
[06:46] <zubir> so I've just gotten into the habit of copying exactly what needs to be copied
[06:46] <zubir> via block count
[06:49] <zubir> but yeah, if you just do "dd if=myiso.iso of=/dev/cdrom", your disk will most likely be perfectly fine
[06:49] <zubir> but run md5sum on the iso and the disk and see if they're the same
[06:52] <zubir> or rather, check a disk made with exact count against one that stopped when dd reached the end
[06:54] <helmut_> hi
[06:55] <zubir> yo
[06:55] <reisio> hiyo
[06:56] <super_> how do i find out which host /sys/class/host? I am?
[06:56] <reisio> super_: hrmm?
[06:57] <bekks> super_: What are you actually trying to do?
[06:57] <super_> i got a hotplug SATA hard drive it is formatted in ext4 the system doesn't show that it is plug in
[06:58] <zubir> did you mount it?
[06:59] <super_> the device is not detected so I can't mount
[07:00] <zubir> does it show up after running "sudo fdisk -l"?
[07:00] <bekks> super_: Do you have a hotplug capable SATA controller as well?
[07:01] <svetlana> k3b also complains that no disk is inserted.
[07:01] <super_> echo "- - -" > /sys/class/scsi_host/host0/scan
[07:01] <super_> I try to find out how do I know that I'm host0?
[07:01] <super_> thats the only way for me to get my hard to show up is running that echo
[07:01] <bekks> svetlana: Maybe the inserted media is just broken?
[07:02] <bekks> super_: Congratulations, you do not have a hotplug capable controller then.
[07:02] <svetlana> it is a new disk. I think driver issue probably.
[07:02] <super_> bekks I have hotplug tray
[07:02] <bekks> svetlana: Even new disks may be broken.
[07:02] <super_> so yes it is hotplug SATA is hotplug
[07:02] <svetlana> yes, I know, I may need to try on another computer
[07:02] <bekks> super_: a tray is not a controller.
[07:03] <bekks> super_: And NO, the controller needs to be hotplug capable, which it obviously isnt.
[07:03] <Ali_M_Ahmed> Peace brothers and sisters. Question: is it possible to install Linux in/on ZFS file-system ?
[07:03] <super_> with windows I just plug in and it just show up no need to type in long command line
[07:03] <bekks> Ali_M_Ahmed: Yes.
[07:03] <super_> muslim are not peaceful people
[07:03] <super_> they hate the jews
[07:03] <bekks> super_: Windows is irrelevant at that point.
[07:04] <OerHeks> !coc | super_
[07:04] <Ali_M_Ahmed> super: If that Muslim is atheist like my self then he does not care about Jews or any relgions :D
[07:05] <zubir> ....
[07:05] <Beldar> Ali_M_Ahmed, That is not allowed here.
[07:05] <super_> the kuran also said you can lie to infidel
[07:05] <bekks> !ot | super_
[07:05] <toolazyforaname> super_, take it elsewhere
[07:05] <OerHeks> lets stop this flamewar now.
[07:08] <Ali_M_Ahmed> bekks: can you please tell me how-to ? BTW... why i don't see ZFS file-system when i try to install Ubuntu ?
[07:08] <bekks> Ali_M_Ahmed: Because it isnt supported by the installer.
[07:08] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS Ali_M_Ahmed
[07:09] <bekks> Ali_M_Ahmed: you would have to install it completely manually, and you need to be _very_ careful when upgrading modules (from the needed 3rd party repo) or the kernel.
[07:10] <bekks> Ali_M_Ahmed: I suggest not installing Ubuntu on ZFS, but using ZFS for your data only.
[07:10] <toolazyforaname> ^ I second this
[07:11] <reisio> I suggest not using CDDL software if you can help it
[07:11] <reisio> :)
[07:12] <reisio> or Oracle software, for that matter :p
[07:12] <bekks> thats why ZFS on linux is not "owned" and licensed by Oracle ;)
[07:13] <super_> Unable to access “96 GB Volume”
[07:13] <Findegil> Anyone familiar with SSL Certificates that could lend a hand for a few min? I feel like i’ve read half of the internet
[07:13] <toolazyforaname> spoken like a person who has had to deal with oracle database
[07:13] <super_> Error mounting /dev/dm-3 at /media/super/481c486e-c1fd-4801-b9ed-a91e088a33ec: Command-line `mount -t "ext4" -o
[07:14] <reisio> bekks: sure it isn't
[07:14] <Ali_M_Ahmed> Okay dear brother @bekks. So, I can't install Ubuntu on ZFS from installer becouse it is not supported by default ? Can I ask for the reason ?
[07:16] <toolazyforaname> Ali_M_Ahmed, why it's not supported by the installer?
[07:17] <Ali_M_Ahmed> Yes brother <toolazyforaname>
[07:18] <toolazyforaname> Probably because compared to other FS out there like ext 2-4, ZFS isn't common and therefor not worth the dev/support time
[07:20] <toolazyforaname> Ali_M_Ahmed,  Do you have the option to resize your zfs part, and create a small ext2 boot partition for ubuntu to run on?
[07:22] <walroos> sudo ssh-keygen -f "/home/aswin/.ssh/known_hosts" -R 10.42.0.20
[07:22] <walroos> not working .. shooting up errors ^^
[07:22] <Ali_M_Ahmed> @toolazyforaname Ohh, Okay now i know :D Thanks. i heard BSD people use it as their default.  |  I actually do not have ZFS currently in my HDD. I was just asking :D
[07:22] <zubir> what kind of errors?
[07:22] <zubir> @walroos
[07:22] <walroos> zubir, /home/aswin/.ssh/known_hosts is not a valid known_hosts file.
[07:23] <walroos> should i delete the who .ssh directory?
[07:23] <toolazyforaname> Ali_M_Ahmed, ah cool cool. well again nothing is stopping you from making a zfs data partition and letting ubuntus boot partition reside on ext2
[07:23] <zubir> not the whole ssh directory, maybe just empty the known_hosts file
[07:23] <zubir> start it fresh
[07:24] <walroos> zubir, okie :)
[07:24] <walroos> thnks
[07:27] <Ali_M_Ahmed> I deeply apologize brother @toolazyforaname for annoying you with my too much questions, But please allow me to ask you last question... Is it possible to convert my root partition(EXT4) to ZFS file-system without causing any damage to me operating system ?
[07:28] <xop> a big time noob here but what is the consequence of logical volume misalignment on 512b hdd??
[07:28] <cfhowlett> Ali_M_Ahmed if the OS doesn't support the file system, conversion is likely to fix it.
[07:29] <lias81> hi there
[07:29] <lias81> is anyone here?
[07:30] <function9> hi
[07:30] <lias81> hi my friend
[07:30] <cfhowlett> lias81 ask your ubuntu question
[07:30] <toolazyforaname> Ali_M_Ahmed, youll loose all your data on the zfs partition, but other than that, you should be a-ok
[07:31] <toolazyforaname> s/zfs/ext4
[07:31] <xop> Sorry to repeat myself, but here goes: what is the consequence of logical volume misalignment on 512b hdd?
[07:32] <lias81> i think i destroyed my pc. I tried to upgraded my ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04, and when i try to login i get an error failed to start session. i tried several things to do, but i didnt manage it. any ideas?
[07:32] <cfhowlett> lias81 what method did you use to upgrade?  Is ubuntu the on OS?
[07:32] <toolazyforaname> lias81, you'll have to be a lot more specific
[07:32] <cfhowlett> "ONLY OS"?
[07:32] <cfhowlett> lias81 also - highly unlikely you "destroyed" anything
[07:33] <lias81> no, i have dual machine (dell laptop) with windows 7 and ubuntu.
[07:33] <cfhowlett> lias81 OK  - HOW did you do this upgrade?
[07:35] <lias81> i follow these steps http://askubuntu.com/questions/443556/upgrading-12-04-to-14-04-beta
[07:35] <cfhowlett> lias81 14.04 "beta" ???
[07:36] <lias81> it wasnt a beta version\
[07:36] <lias81> is there any chance to avoid format and save my pc?
[07:37] <cfhowlett> lias81 OK - moving on to fixing ... download the 14.04 ISO.  VERIFY the ISO.  make a USB.  VERIFY the USB.  reinstall ubuntu.
[07:37] <toolazyforaname> lias81, almost certainly. can you provide exact error and log output?
[07:37] <GeorgeZ> Hello there Can i Ask a question related to ubuntu with laptops? thank you
[07:38] <Ali_M_Ahmed> @toolazyforaname, @cfhowlett Deeply thankful guys. I ask my lord(Stephin Hawking) to give you both happiness in your life's for helping me here.   =)
[07:38] <lias81> toolazyforaname: if you give me some instructions
[07:38] <cfhowlett> GeorgeZ ask
[07:38] <cfhowlett> Ali_M_Ahmed happy2help
[07:38] <Ali_M_Ahmed> thanks. Bye all :D
[07:38] <lias81> cfhowlett: if i do this, i will loose everything in ubuntu partion?
[07:38] <GeorgeZ> I installed ubuntu in my laptop. problem is boot time and OS is really slow
[07:38] <GeorgeZ> i search a while in net
[07:38] <cfhowlett> lias81 do you have a dedicated /home partition?
[07:38] <toolazyforaname> lias81, well you said something failed. What was reported on the failure?
[07:39] <cfhowlett> lias81 if not, then yes, it will wipe your /home.
[07:39] <GeorgeZ> some people say that changing controler to compatibility mode in bios helps but my bios dont have that option
[07:39] <cfhowlett> !deatils|GeorgeZ
[07:39] <cfhowlett> !details
[07:39] <GeorgeZ> Details of laptop you mean?
[07:39] <lias81> cfhowlett: i know.. ffffff
[07:40] <cfhowlett> GeorgeZ hardware, what you're trying to do, what DID you do?
[07:41] <GeorgeZ> Clear Installation of Ubuntu 64 bit with usb in laptop bios boot setting in legacy mode. Laptop specs i3 4 gb ram
[07:41] <GeorgeZ> and the boot up and os is really slow
[07:41] <cfhowlett> GeorgeZ so installed completely and successfully?
[07:41] <GeorgeZ> Yes
[07:41] <lias81> toolazyforaname:  when i open my pc, in the login screen - i am typing my password and i cant login. the msg is failed to start session"  same problem when i am trying to login as a guest. moreover i cant connect to wifi
[07:42] <cfhowlett> GeorgeZ and "slow" = ???
[07:42] <toolazyforaname> lias81, so to be clear, you  are seeing the log-in screen
[07:43] <lias81> toolazyforaname: yes my friend. but i cant do anything .
[07:43] <toolazyforaname> ok
[07:43] <toolazyforaname> lias81, after having it fail once, press ctrl + alt + f1
[07:43] <[gnubie]> i am on mac os x mavericks and i ssh -X to an ubuntu 14.04 server where i want to run startx to display it on my mac. the cli looks good but i don’t see the dispaly of my startx. any idea what i missed here? thanks.
[07:43] <toolazyforaname> and type
[07:44] <lias81> toolazyforaname: i opened a temrinal by pressing alt ctrl and f1
[07:44] <toolazyforaname> tail /var/log/Xorg<tab complete>
[07:44] <toolazyforaname> do you  see any error messages?
[07:45] <BrandonC> so im reinstalling ubuntu.. i get choice, reinstall ubuntu, erace ubuntu and reinsall, and erase everything and reinstall.. problem is the install now button is greyed out.. no mater what i select
[07:46] <toolazyforaname> same goes for /var/log/xdm.log and /var/log/gdm/*.log
[07:46] <lias81> toolazyforaname: yes my friend. but i cant do anything . '/var/log/xorg for reading, n such file or directory
[07:47] <baus> lias81 can you help me install ubuntu?
[07:47] <mjayk> lias81: you need to capitalise the X
[07:47] <toolazyforaname> lias81, well i dont know the exact file name . . . tab complete should resolve the name though
[07:47] <lias81> same with cpital X
[07:48] <Beldar> baus, State your issue to the channel don;t just randomly address others.
[07:48] <nearst> hello everyone
[07:48] <lias81> same error
[07:48] <[gnubie]> toolazyforaname: no error so far
[07:48] <baus> Beldar can you help me install ubuntu?
[07:49] <Beldar> baus, Tell the channel you problem.
[07:49] <varunendra> BrandonC, can you show us the output of "sudo parted -l" ? Paste it into pastebin and post its link here.
[07:49] <toolazyforaname> lias81, try `less ~/.xsession-errors
[07:49] <toolazyforaname> lias81, try `less ~/.xsession-errors' *
[07:49] <baus> Beldar i don't know how to install ubuntu yet, can you walk me through it please?
[07:49] <ikonia> !install | baus
[07:49] <baus> no i don't want to install baus, i want to installl ubuntu Beldar
[07:50] <ikonia> baus: read the documentation ubottu has just given you
[07:50]  * cfhowlett beginning to suspect ...
[07:50] <ikonia> baus: that will explain how to install ubuntu
[07:50] <PowerKiller> i forgot my ubuntu password can i restore it?
[07:50] <cfhowlett> !password | PowerKiller
[07:50] <baus> okay thanks ikonia and Beldar
[07:50] <ikonia> baus: if you have any questions about that, just ask
[07:50] <nearst> hiya ikonia cfhowlett
[07:50] <PowerKiller> oh thanks
[07:50] <cfhowlett> nearst greetings
[07:51] <lias81> toolazyforaname:  i typed " 'less ~/.xsession-errors' and i got that no such file or directory
[07:51] <toolazyforaname> lias81, can you tell me what lives in /var/log/
[07:54] <lias81> toolazyforaname:  pls how to do this?
[07:54] <toolazyforaname> `ls -a /var/log/'
[07:54] <BrandonC> why is my install button grey ?
[07:55] <cfhowlett> BrandonC did you verify the ISO and the USB?
[07:55] <BrandonC> i just did installyesterday
[07:55] <BrandonC> im reinstalling
[07:56] <BrandonC> so no but i think it works
[07:56] <[gnubie]> the last 2 lines of my ~/.xsession-errors contains:
[07:56] <[gnubie]> Openbox-Message: Couldn't set locale from environment.
[07:56] <[gnubie]> Fontconfig warning: ignoring utf-8: not a valid region tag
[07:56] <cfhowlett> BrandonC garbage in, garbage out.  verification takes 2 minutes but if you don't have that kind of time to trouble shoot ... good luck
[07:57] <[gnubie]> anyone?
[07:57] <BrandonC> dude, dont try to help then be a pric
[07:57] <BrandonC> im googling how to verify
[07:57] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | BrandonC
[07:57] <lias81> toolazyforaname:  nothing appears ,
[07:58] <toolazyforaname> type exactly what you are entering, because that is not possible
[07:59] <lias81> toolazyforaname: `ls [space] -a [space] /var/log'
[07:59] <toolazyforaname> dont use ` and ' . i use those to specify what is a terminal cmd and what isnt
[07:59] <lias81> with quotes ` and '
[07:59] <lias81> ok
[08:01] <tapout> i have a lorex security system from costco, and they only supply pc/mac/android versions.  Shouldn't I be able to just use Wine and use the PC version to do the remote viewing of the cameras ?
[08:02] <lias81> toolazyforaname:  i did it. i have too many results. i am looking for  something ?
[08:03] <cfhowlett> !wine | tapout check the wine DB to see if your hardware is supported.
[08:03] <toolazyforaname> you are looking for soemthing like xorg.log
[08:03] <cfhowlett> tapout you might also consider virtualbox + windows + lorex software
[08:05] <lias81> toolazyforaname:  i have Xorg.o.log  and Xorg.0.log.old and Xorg.1.log and Xorg.1.log.old
[08:06] <tapout> thank you!
[08:06] <akaWolf> can someone said me reasons for application's window doesn't appear in Ubuntu with KDE? I can't see my pidgin's window.
[08:06] <toolazyforaname> ok can you pastey Xorg.0.log and Xorg.1.log and link me to it?
[08:07] <BrandonC> so to run the md5sum i need to boot the live cd and use terminal?
[08:08] <nearst> BrandonC, md5sum --help
[08:08] <cfhowlett> BrandonC nope.  FIRST you verify the ISO you downloaded.  if that's good, THEN you verify your USB/CD
[08:09] <BrandonC> why not just my dvd?
[08:10] <nearst> for security concern, im not always use that too
[08:10] <toolazyforaname> BrandonC: they verify different things
[08:10] <BrandonC> so if the dvd verifies ok, there may be somthing wrong with the dvd that testing the iso would find?
[08:10] <cfhowlett> BrandonC your downloaded ISO is the source for the DVD.  If the ISO is funky, DVD is funky.  If the ISO is good, but the DVD is funky, DVD is funky.
[08:10] <nearst> but make it has a habit is a good things
[08:10] <lias81> toolazyforaname:  i have to type /var/log/Xorg ??
[08:11] <BrandonC> so dvd can be good but iso was bad?
[08:11] <cfhowlett> BrandonC yes!!!!
[08:11] <cfhowlett> BrandonC DVD was BURNED good, but bad source ISO = bad OS.
[08:12] <toolazyforaname> BrandonC: verifying a dvd just shows that whatever you wanted to copy, was done correctly from the original. You original could be incorrect though
[08:13] <BrandonC> oh im only verifying that the dvd was burned correctly, im not comparing it to the hash of the iso
[08:13] <toolazyforaname> lias81: do you have a way to copy and paste information to pastebin? (is this on a vm, or a physical machine?)
[08:13] <BrandonC> cause space at end of dvd changes the hash
[08:13] <cfhowlett> BrandonC which is why I specifically advised you to 1. verify the ISO THEN 2. verify the DVD.
[08:14] <BrandonC> ya i dont know why i ask questions, i should just take what i get and not try to learn why
[08:14] <toolazyforaname> BrandonC: want some tea with that tart of yours
[08:14] <lias81> it is a physucal maschine, i cant somehow to send you a photo with results. if this is a such waste of time for you, i will try to find out an other  solution :-)
[08:15] <cfhowlett> BrandonC well you DID read the md5sum wiki - which explained it all , right? :)
[08:15] <nearst> BrandonC, learn is a good things :)
[08:15] <toolazyforaname> lias81: yeah a pic wouldnt be that helpful.
[08:15] <BrandonC> ya i read it and was confirming i understood it right
[08:15] <toolazyforaname> lias81: so you ran something like full-system-upgrade and now you can't log in?
[08:16] <nearst> lias81, what problem
[08:16] <lias81> toolazyforaname: ok  :-) thank you for your time.
[08:16] <lias81> nearst:  i upgrq
[08:17] <lias81> nearst:  i upgrade ubuntu and i cant login
[08:17] <nearst> lias81, gui ?
[08:17] <lias81> nearst:  sorry?
[08:18] <nearst> lias81, i mean. any display manager ? or in terminal F1 ?
[08:18] <lias81> toolazyforaname: do you think that i cant founfd a solution or it is impossible?
[08:18] <peterwds> i want to disable compiz or whatever does the effects on my computer because it is too slow. how to?
[08:18] <toolazyforaname> lias81: its def not impossible, but debugging will be challenging without seeing error logs
[08:18] <lias81> nearst:  i only manage to open a temrinal with ctr alt and f1
[08:19] <toolazyforaname> lias81: are you still in your terminal? can you log in from there?
[08:19] <peterwds> :(
[08:20] <lias81> toolazyforaname: i can login from terminal. but nothing happens next. the maschine doesnt open. I mean i only see the terminal nothings more
[08:20] <nearst> peterwds, assume u got metacity install, just metacity --replace &
[08:20] <cfhowlett> !compiz | peterwds
[08:20] <toolazyforaname> lias81: i understand. do me a favor tell me what this says uname -r
[08:20] <nearst> lias81, did u try to install gdm ? default was lightdm
[08:21] <lias81> 3.13.0-32-generc
[08:22] <lias81> nearst:  i think that I did it
[08:22] <lias81> toolazyforaname: 3.13.0-32-generic
[08:24] <FuzzyWhirlpool> Kernel version 32 is out. I guess I'm missing some updates, still using version 30.
[08:24] <toolazyforaname> lias81: `which gdm'
[08:25] <nearst> lias81, try dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[08:25] <toolazyforaname> lias81: ^
[08:26] <nearst> i think i got this problem before. but after install gdm and make it at default. just work again.
[08:26] <lias81> nearst: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure must be run as root
[08:26] <toolazyforaname> sudo !!
[08:26] <nearst> lias81, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[08:29] <lias81> nearst: package gdm is not install and no information is available
[08:29] <souri> Hi, does anyone here know about ALS (ambient light sensor) support for vaio laptops in Ubuntu? With the "sony-laptop" kernel module, I do not get automatic dimming on low lit conditions. I've tried checking out the Embedded Controller RAM dump using ectool, and I can see the values at a particular address changing
[08:29] <souri> But I do not know how to change the sony-laptop kernel module source to listen to that event and make changes to the backlight
[08:30] <toolazyforaname> lias81: sudo apt-get install gdm
[08:30] <souri> Any help is appreciated. I see ALS support in the driver source, but still it's not happening and I can't figure out why
[08:32] <lias81> toolazyforaname: i did it many times . but i get errors. I have a list with unmet dependencies, it suggests to try 'apt-geg -f install'
[08:33] <nearst> souri, u mean this one ? https://code.google.com/p/vaio-f11-linux/wiki/AutoDimmingBacklightDaemon
[08:34] <toolazyforaname> lias81: i would go for it
[08:34] <toolazyforaname> sudo apt-get -f install gdm
[08:35] <nearst> lias81, do-upgrade release or dist-upgrade ?
[08:35] <souri> nearst, no it's here: https://gitorious.org/sony-laptop-zseries
[08:35] <lias81> toolazyforaname: and i get as an error couldnt lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[08:36] <souri> nearst: and i'm looking at the code here: https://github.com/absorb-it/sony-laptop-zseries .  Someone made a few changes to make the previous code compile on the newer kernel, so I can build this easily
[08:36] <nearst> lias81, if u do-release-upgrade, probably deficiency from 3rd party package
[08:36] <lias81> nearst: i have to type do-upgrade?
[08:37] <toolazyforaname> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1859887 may want to try sudo apt-get install lightdm-gtk-greeter
[08:37] <nearst> lias81, u said after upgrade. which upgrade u mean :D
[08:38] <nearst> afk games
[08:39] <varunendra> lias81, the 'couldn't lock...' error means either you have another package manager open (synaptic or software center?) or the lock file has stuck for some reason.
[08:39] <toolazyforaname> varunendra: i would imagine it's locked bc the manger is in use
[08:40] <varunendra> toolazyforaname, if the program/process that threw that error is the only one trying to get the lock, it won't complain at all :)
[08:40] <toolazyforaname> varunendra: it's not though
[08:40] <Mountain_R> hi guys I am going crazy with the monitor, I have uninstalled it and deactivated power manager but after 1 minute or less of inactivity my monitor always switch off. what is it? damn
[08:41] <lias81> nearst: i did something wrong? is something that i can do to save my pc
[08:41] <varunendra> lias81, if you can confirm that no more than one package manager is open/running in terminal, you can solve the 'lock' error by simply deleting that file. It is completely safe.
[08:41] <Mountain_R> screensaver is unistalled too
[08:42] <toolazyforaname> lias81: can you run these two commands: sudo apt-get update
[08:42] <toolazyforaname> sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:42] <lias81> varunendra: only one terminal is opened
[08:43] <varunendra> lias81, then if the commands toolazyforaname suggested above give you the "couldn't lock..." error - we need to delete the lock file
[08:43] <lias81> toolazyforaname: too many errors. nothing changed
[08:44] <nearst> lias81, delete lock file and try sudo apt-get update again.
[08:44] <lias81> @nea
[08:44] <RahulAN> any one here using fortran?
[08:44] <lias81> nearst:  could you pls give me the command?
[08:44] <RahulAN> I want to learn any recommendation?
[08:44] <varunendra> lias81, "sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock"
[08:45] <varunendra> lias81, have you given us the pastebin link of the errors you get?
[08:45] <lias81> varunendra: thanks
[08:46] <varunendra> lias81, only if that helps solving the issue :)
[08:46] <nearst> lias81, sudo killall apt-get or sudo fuser -cuk /var/lib/dpkg/lock; sudo rm -f /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[08:47] <nearst> try again install gdm, restart service and hope all good :)
[08:47] <lias81> varunendra: i know, but the only way to share something is with photo. it is a different machine and i have no other option
[08:48] <varunendra> lias81, no working internet connection either?
[08:49] <lias81> varunendra: doesnt work
[08:49] <varunendra> lias81, the net or the 'lock' trick?
[08:50] <nearst> lias81, im getting confuse. hehe.
[08:50] <lias81> nearst: i did it, got no errors
[08:50]  * varunendra too
[08:50] <nearst> if too techie, backup data and fresh install. :)
[08:50]  * lias81 is complete lost, i want to burn my machine
[08:50]  * varunendra reaches out to write out his address to lias81 
[08:51] <varunendra> lias81, I haven't followed your messages from beginning, so sorry if I'm asking silly questions. :)
[08:51]  * lias81 thanks a lot toolazyforaname , nearst  and varunendra  and offers fire to burn my pc =)
[08:51] <Mountain_R> can someone help me with the screensaver?
[08:52] <lias81> varunendra: i asked the most silly questions here. dont worry
[08:52] <toolazyforaname> lias81: did you get it???
[08:53] <varunendra> lias81, if you don't have too many programs or too much customization on the existing installation, then a fresh install is actually not a bad idea. Takes 15-20 minutes + the time to do the customization/program installation again.
[08:53] <lias81> toolazyforaname: nothings change :-( i thing i will burn a dvd and i will install again the 14.04 (or 12.04 I am not sure yet) .
[08:54] <nearst> avoid unity, hehehehe
[08:54] <toolazyforaname> lias81: if thats the route you wanna take, maybe try booting from a live disk, mount the partition on your machine, and try and save anything you need
[08:54] <toolazyforaname> nearst: you said it
[08:54] <lias81> varunendra: i have too many things on it. That's why i am trying to avoid installing again a new version. but i think unfortunatelly is the only solution
[08:55] <toolazyforaname> lias81: you can save the info from a live cd
[08:55] <lias81> toolazyforaname:  dont know yet. i ll try it
[08:55] <varunendra> lias81, can you please state the problem (current status) in detail again?
[08:56] <nearst> lias81, what is actual problem ? no login screen ?
[08:56] <Mountain_R> hello there is someone for me
[08:57] <varunendra> Mountain_R, possibly, but only when you state your problem first :)
[08:57] <lias81> in login screen , when i am trying to login weather as user or as a guest, i got an error msg " failed to start session"
[08:57] <nearst> lias81, u try to restart lightdm service ? sudo service lightdm restart, or sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[08:57] <lias81> nearst: i did it , nothings happened.
[08:57] <nearst> oh. display manager
[08:58] <lias81> and moreover i cant connet to wifi
[08:58] <akaWolf> toolazyforaname: sec...
[08:58] <varunendra> lias81, is the wifi problem pre-existing?
[08:58] <toolazyforaname> akaWolf: ?
[08:58] <lias81> varunendra: nop
[08:59] <nearst> lias81, sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-session
[08:59] <Mountain_R> varunendra,  I have done :) yet, i copy it again: I am going crazy with the monitor, I have uninstalled it and deactivated power manager but after 1 minute or less of inactivity my monitor always switch off. what is it?
[08:59] <varunendra> nearst, keep in mind that lias81 can't connect to internet currently.
[08:59] <nearst> owh
[09:00] <nearst> well. try with dpkg-reconfigure -a :)
[09:00] <varunendra> Mountain_R, I may not be able to help with that, but which version of ubuntu are you using, and what all have you tried so far?
[09:00] <lias81> nearst: it is hopeless , fffffff i think i completely destroyed my machine. i got as results some unmet dependencies
[09:01] <edition> is vi still a good editor to use?
[09:01] <Mountain_R> ubuntu 14:04 64bit xfce
[09:01] <nearst> which package unmet depencencies?
[09:02] <varunendra> lias81, do you think showing us the error messages can be a great chance of help? We can try to redirect them to a file > copy it to a flash drive (from command line) and pastebin them
[09:02] <toolazyforaname> edition: vi or vim never goes out of style
[09:02] <Mountain_R> varunendra, 14.04 64bit xfce
[09:02] <edition> cant use it :)
[09:02] <toolazyforaname> edition: why
[09:03] <edition> i am linux idiot :)
[09:03] <varunendra> Mountain_R, no experience with either (14.04 or xfce). But have you tried normal power management options?
[09:03] <Mountain_R> sure I have done lots of changes
[09:03] <toolazyforaname> edition: well to be fair, vi isn't linux. it's a text editor
[09:03] <lias81> varunendra: i think that i will waste your time my friend.  the only way to do this is to take a photo and send it with email .
[09:03] <varunendra> edition, I keep reading that it is great, although so far I have never needed it.
[09:03] <Mountain_R> nothing, after 1 minute the monitor is switched off
[09:04] <varunendra> lias81, photos can be uploaded to imagebin :)
[09:04] <nearst> imgur also ok
[09:04] <he1kki> I would like to add my own web source search instead of amazon/ubuntu one. Good idea?
[09:05] <lias81> i dont know  that service. but if you like i can do it for you. but i think is hopeless. i completely destroyed  my machine\
[09:07] <toolazyforaname> strong with the defeatist attitude you are
[09:07] <nearst> lias81, http://askubuntu.com/questions/140246/how-do-i-resolve-unmet-dependencies
[09:07] <lccadmin> provided I can manage to capture video and audio, what's the best app to stream it out to something like youtube or ustream or livestream?
[09:11] <varunendra> lias81, I don't mind trying as long as I am hanging out here. I'm here to 'waste' my time ;p But if you wish, there are ways to fix/install packages offline.
[09:11] <lias81> i am trying to upload a phot
[09:12] <nearst> im learning here
[09:12] <varunendra> Mountain_R, is it Xubuntu or just xfce installed on top of default Ubuntu?
[09:13] <he1kki> answer to my on question probably is unity-scope-tool and http://developer.ubuntu.com/scopes/tutorials/scope-development-procedures/
[09:13] <he1kki> /on/own
[09:15] <lias81> nearst: varunendra  https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2xUHrOGZOwqQ21YSV9rcDRBZmdmOE9BcjI0Z2tLWEU1Qmt3/edit?usp=sharing
[09:17] <varunendra> lias81, and what happens when you do "sudo apt-get -f install" ?
[09:17] <nick07> my ubuntu 14.04 never cold start with the cpu fan running, after the laptop gets to hot after 20 minutes I turns off and after that, when it cooled down, I can turn on the computer and the cpu fan is running
[09:17] <nick07> *it turns off
[09:19] <thonza> My computer have ability to remove all fans and show games silently
[09:22] <lias81> varunendra: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2xUHrOGZOwqLXpZbDJ5Z19XTjY2RHJZX2d6enBmbmN2dEdF/edit?usp=sharing
[09:22] <nearst> lias81, try with "sudo apt-get -f install" ?
[09:23] <lias81> nearst:  this is what i get https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2xUHrOGZOwqLXpZbDJ5Z19XTjY2RHJZX2d6enBmbmN2dEdF/edit?usp=sharing
[09:23] <thonza> what is the -f in the command?
[09:25] <toolazyforaname> probably force
[09:25] <lias81> need more clear photo?
[09:26] <nearst> lias81, it seems like gnome3 issue
[09:26] <varunendra> lias81, so it proceeds to do what it is supposed to do, but then due to no internet connection, it fails. So we have two possible approaches - 1) get connected to internet if that is easy (I may try), or, 2) try an option "--print-uris" with "apt-get" command (I'm not sure whether it'll work or not with the -f option)
[09:27] <varunendra> lias81, a working internet connection could make things a breeze. Can't you get a wired connection for the moment? If not, what is the problem with the wireless connection (have you tried the "nmcli" command yet?)
[09:27] <nearst> try purge ppa , but that pc also offline. ^^
[09:27] <lias81> varunendra:  i will probably need a wired connection
[09:28] <thonza> ??
[09:28] <thonza> Why you need internet
[09:29] <lias81> varunendra: my pc can "see" the available wifi but it cant connect
[09:29] <varunendra> lias81, unless some networking service has crashed (or not started at this stage), you can use the "nmcli" command to activate a connection that you might have been using.
[09:29] <newbieAlert> hey hi all. Whats the way to corrupt the selective fields of SuperBlock of a USB stick ??
[09:29] <nearst> lias81, purge ppa, update and upgrade
[09:29] <yossarianuk> hi - is anyone aware if you can load an installed OS in RAM like you can with the livecd - i.e https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootToRAM
[09:29] <varunendra> lias81, what is the name of that connection (profile name - by which you saved that connection)?
[09:29] <ravindu> Hi guys, I installed Ubuntu on my laptop that has a Bisoncam NB Pro webcam built in. The hardware for the webcam ('Bisoncam NB Pro') gets detected, but when I can't seem to get a picture out of it. How do I fix this?
[09:30] <nearst> sudo nmcli nm
[09:30] <UnderAttackGAZA> .
[09:30] <lias81> varunendra: i will type profile name lias wifi klanitsa?
[09:31] <varunendra> nearst, lias81 the usual command to use an existing (saved) connection is : "nmcli con up id <profile id of the connection>"
[09:32] <varunendra> lias81, if the profile name contains blank spaces, you must enclose it within double-quotes
[09:32] <ravindu> Hi guys, I installed Ubuntu on my laptop that has a Bisoncam NB Pro webcam built in. The hardware for the webcam ('Bisoncam NB Pro') gets detected, but when I can't seem to get a picture out of it. How do I fix this?
[09:32] <newbieAlert> ??
[09:32] <newbieAlert> ??
[09:32] <newbieAlert> ??
[09:32] <thonza> omg
[09:33] <nearst> !spam | newbieAlert
[09:33] <newbieAlert> sorry
[09:33] <ravindu> Hello, will anyone help me/
[09:34] <lias81> status activating and after 90 secs is timed out
[09:34] <zubairahmed> please wait your turn ravindu
[09:34] <varunendra> thonza, your problem sounds like an acpi issue. I have no experience with that, but some users at ubuntuforums do have good experience with power issues.
[09:34] <ravindu> zubairahmed: okay.
[09:34] <varunendra> !anyone | ravindu
[09:34] <ravindu> varunendra: ?
[09:35] <nearst> !ask | ravindu
[09:35] <Gaza_Palestine> Gaza Burning! http://t.co/g1J5GN3VDQ
[09:35] <thonza> ravindu: help this man
[09:35] <ravindu> ubottu: okay.
[09:35] <varunendra> ravindu, I was trying to trigger the bot.... failed... nearst did it correctly above :)
[09:35] <nearst> lol
[09:36] <varunendra> thonza, have you tried 'fancontrol' program yet?
[09:36] <thonza> yes
[09:37] <thonza> no problem here
[09:37] <TurkActivist> 70 Gazans killed in Israeli ground assault http://www.aa.com.tr/en/news/361192--70-gazans-killed
[09:37] <nearst> !offtopic | TurkActivist
[09:37] <yossarianuk> TurkActivist: no matter how morally correct the things your posting - its very much offtopic - i.e here is not the place.
[09:37] <varunendra> thonza, that was my first and probably last suggestion (apart from some weird boot options which I don't understand much myself)
[09:38] <lias81> my friends , as you can see it is hopeless. i will erase everything
[09:38] <ravindu> Anyone?
[09:39] <nearst> lias81, u need Internet connection to purge broken package and doin upgrade normally
[09:39] <nick07> my cpu fan on 14.04 is never going to spin if the laptop is turned on. Only after the laptop went overheated and cooled down a bit I starts spinning
[09:39] <nick07> any ideas?
[09:39] <lias81> nearst:  do you think is only an internet problem?
[09:39] <varunendra> lias81, perhaps as my last suggestion, please also try - "apt-get --print-uris -f install" Does it return any download URIs?
[09:40] <varunendra> lias81, I am basically a wireless troubleshooter, but that will probably another long road.
[09:40] <varunendra> probably be*
[09:41] <lias81> varunendra: it gives me two url's
[09:41] <nearst> lias81, try this. sudo dconf reset -f /org/compiz && sudo setsid unity , sudo restart lightdm restart and try login again.
[09:42] <nearst> *sudo service lightdm restart
[09:42] <varunendra> lias81, only two? sure? and no errors?
[09:44] <LinX64> ohh dear
[09:44] <varunendra> ravindu, which program are you using to use the webcam?
[09:44] <LinX64> hi my friends
[09:44] <ravindu> varunendra: cheese webcam booth
[09:45] <ravindu> varunendra: I tried accessing the webcam with lots of programs, but I still get a black screen
[09:45] <LinX64> :|
[09:45] <ravindu> varunendra: I believe that I might need a better driver for it.
[09:45] <varunendra> ravindu, please also try 'guvcview' if haven't already. It offers a lot more controls than cheese
[09:45] <ravindu> varunendra: How can i download a webcam driver for Ubuntu 14.04?
[09:45] <LinX64> varunendra :how sre you?
[09:45] <LinX64> are*
[09:45] <toolazyforaname> LinX64: ask your ubuntu related question. there is no need for greetings
[09:46] <LinX64> ok ok:d
[09:46] <varunendra> ravindu, webcam drivers are, as far as I know, generic and are already available in default installation (or come with the programs you use as frontends)
[09:46] <gustavo> Hi
[09:46] <LinX64> wlc new user's
[09:46] <varunendra> I am fine by the way LinX64 :p
[09:46] <viscera> Can I disable fade animations when I show desktop and switch windows?
[09:46] <ravindu> varunendra: well, what should I do to get this think to work?
[09:46] <LinX64> :d
[09:46] <viscera> They're kinda slow.
[09:46] <LinX64> this is not chatroom ok ?:D
[09:47] <gustavo> Will Ubuntu 14.10 come with new icons???
[09:47] <LinX64> :-?
[09:47] <LinX64> maybe..
[09:47] <LinX64> wlc
[09:47] <toolazyforaname> gustavo: not sure, but you can install custom ions if you like
[09:47] <varunendra> ravindu, I am not a webcam or video expert, but please install 'guvcview' first, and let us know if it does any miracle.
[09:47] <LinX64> toolazy
[09:47] <gustavo> I hope so, the old ones are dated.
[09:47] <viscera> gustavo: be thankful for the old ones, most distros are ugly as hell
[09:47] <LinX64> best desktop's for ubuntu ?
[09:47] <ravindu> varunendra: sudo apt-get install guvcview?
[09:48] <gustavo> Hahahahaha I guess
[09:48] <varunendra> ravindu, yup
[09:48] <ravindu> LinX64: UNITY!!!
[09:48] <ravindu> varunendra: Thanks
[09:48] <viscera> (although gradients are looking dated)
[09:48] <toolazyforaname> ravindu:  get out
[09:48] <LinX64> ok
[09:48] <toolazyforaname> :P
[09:48] <LinX64> sudo apt-get install UNITY
[09:48] <LinX64> ?
[09:48] <LinX64> im new on ubuntu
[09:48] <ikonia> LinX64: unity desktop is installed by default in ubuntu
[09:48] <ikonia> LinX64: it is the default desktop
[09:48] <viscera> LinX64: I used "tasksel install ubuntu-desktop"
[09:48] <LinX64> where is it ?
[09:48] <lias81> varunendra: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2xUHrOGZOwqbW16aGNlejNXNlF5eWZvUjN4TXA1QjdFRjNZ/edit?usp=sharing
[09:49] <LinX64> ok
[09:49] <LinX64> this is nice place for question's
[09:49] <newbieAlert> hey help with superblock corruptiion.
[09:49] <viscera> LinX64: "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" does the same thing, as far as I can tell
[09:49] <LinX64> tnx guys
[09:49] <lccadmin> I guess I've answered my own questino about capturing video (vlc) but has anyone had any luck with it ans s-video cables?  I've got weird looking video -- staticky looking with a bunch of green lines at the bottom
[09:49] <viscera> LinX64: most of mine don't get answered
[09:49] <toolazyforaname> LinX64: Its completely up to personal preference. My suggestion would be to try out many in a vm, and decide for yorself
[09:51] <varunendra> lias81, I don't believe only those two packages can fix the whole thing, but anything is possible. Please use the download URIs to download the packages on a computer which has internet connection. Then you'll need to move them to our target system (on a flash drive/cd whatever is easy for you) and install with "sudo dpkg -i *"
[09:52] <varunendra> lias81, if you wish to attempt that, I'd be glad to provide step-by-step instructions - as correctly as I can :)
[09:53] <lias81> varunendra: i ve already made a dvd to re-install ubuntu. i will try to see what programms i had installed and i will try to contect to internet by booting with live cd. will this help?
[09:54] <varunendra> lias81, a working live dvd should help a lot, at least to move the packages.
[09:54] <lias81> i ll try this
[09:55] <varunendra> lias81, some more experienced expert could possibly help you better with 'chroot' thing, but I have no experience with that.
[09:56] <lias81> varunendra: you have already did more than enough :-)
[10:05] <antithesis> Is startx supported again or still not?
[10:12] <nick07> my fan of cpu is not spinning on 14.04 so laptop shutdown after while,any idea?
[10:13] <Rohan_m> I am using Smuxi and unable to find any programming groups ???
[10:14] <Rohan_m> nick07: same happens to me
[10:14] <Rohan_m> nick07: i dont know the problem but i gess it over heating
[10:15] <Rohan_m> nick07: did u tried cleaning your heat sink and the dust inside your laptop give it a try i'm sure it'll help
[10:15] <nick07> problem is if the laptop was overheated and I wait few minutes and turn the computer ON, then the fan IS spinning...
[10:15] <MonkeyDust> nick07  same here, cannot use e.g. virtualbox, because my pc heats to fast too much
[10:15] <Rohan_m> nick07:YOu r from tropical region which country
[10:16] <nick07> ha no, holland
[10:16] <Rohan_m> nick07: did u trid to replug your ram !
[10:16] <Rohan_m> Rohan_m: and check the CPU temp logs when it shutdowns
[10:16] <nick07> no, but the fan IS working second time start
[10:17] <nick07> if i install 13.10 problem gone
[10:17] <Rohan_m> nick07: so what fan tries to cool it down but heat is so much that it cant accomodate to cool it down
[10:18] <Rohan_m> nick07: yeah i'm also using 14.04 and this problem comes to often ! i guess hey have problem with build
[10:18] <nick07> no, fan is not spinning, cpu over heats, then laptop stops. then wait few minutes, turn computer on, fan spinning
[10:19] <nick07> so, the is a prolem with 14.04?
[10:19] <nick07> *there
[10:19] <nick07> any solutons to solve it by installing something?
[10:20] <sivteck> nick07: support for 13.10 ended recently. Try installing 14.04 and see.
[10:20] <nick07> this is 14.04 and that gives the problem
[10:20] <sivteck> nick07: ah, sorry.
[10:20] <MonkeyDust> the heating problem started with 14.04 and everything derived from it
[10:20] <nick07> sensor-detects nothing, only NO NO NO
[10:21] <nick07> is the problem in the 14.04 kernel?
[10:22] <solarfly> nick07 do a google search on "ubuntu 14.04 fan not working" there are many, many articles posted just this year on this issue
[10:22] <k1l> !away > Power_OFF
[10:22] <nick07> did that, no solution
[10:22] <MonkeyDust> nick07  i'm reading this http://refugeeks.com/use-tlp-to-optimize-the-power-consumption-in-ubuntu/
[10:23] <nick07> I installed tlp already, nothing changed
[10:24] <MonkeyDust> nick07  hm, same here
[10:24] <nick07> so, then I go back to 13.10 i think
[10:24] <nearst> not sure, im use liquorix
[10:25] <MonkeyDust> nick07  that's unsupported, you'll find no help or updated for it, if you want an earlier version, use 12.04
[10:25] <nick07> just need a working fan and xmbc, thats it
[10:25] <ravindu> Guys, why doesn't gksu /opt/sublime_text/sublime_text %F not launch sublime text? The file path is correct
[10:26] <MonkeyDust> ravindu  try first without %F
[10:26] <nearst> sublime not from repo ?
[10:27] <ravindu> MonkeyDust: It doesn't work without $F either
[10:27] <ravindu> MonkeyDust: *%F
[10:27] <ravindu> MonkeyDust: sudo subl works however... Why is that?
[10:28] <antithesis> Is startx supported?
[10:28] <MonkeyDust> ravindu  use this command: whereis sublime_text
[10:28] <ravindu> /opt/sublime_text/sublime_text
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> ravindu  and: ls -l /opt/sublime_text/sublime_text
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> ravindu  i want to see if it's zxecutable or not
[10:30] <ravindu> -rwxr--r-- 1 ravindu ravindu 5152768 Jan 22 20:41 /opt/sublime_text/sublime_text
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> ravindu  try: chmod 666 [path/to/file]
[10:34] <PowerKiller> ah
[10:34] <ravindu> MonkeyDust: It doesn't work...
[10:34] <PowerKiller> np I'm leaving #ubuntu then
[10:36] <ravindu> MonkeyDust: I used chmod +x /opt/sublime_text/sublime_text and now sudo sublime_text works
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> ravindu  and if you go to the folder and then run sublime_text
[10:36] <ravindu> why doesnt gksu or gksudo work with it?
[10:37] <MonkeyDust> ravindu  does gksu synatpic work?
[10:37] <MonkeyDust> ravindu  does gksu synaptic work?
[10:38] <ravindu> yep.
[10:38] <MonkeyDust> ravindu  ok, so that's not it...
[10:38] <ravindu> so how do I make it work?
[10:39] <MonkeyDust> ravindu  beats me, frankly, i'm not familiar with sublime_text... did you get it from the repo's?
[10:40] <ravindu> i actually downloaded it from their website and installed it on my machine...
[10:41] <zyntux> hey
[10:41] <ravindu> MonkeyDust: g2g. Thanks anyways for trying to help me :)
[10:51] <jatt> I upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04 and now i get the following message when trying to double click on a external usb drive: http://picpaste.com/ar-AHJZ0ImZ.png
[10:51] <jatt> how can I avoid to have to give username/password?
[10:51] <jatt> I mean password
[10:59] <Jackripthatdoor> what's the file manager used in Gnome?
[10:59] <DJones> Jackripthatdoor: Nautilus
[11:00] <Jackripthatdoor> confirmed.
[11:00] <DJones> Jackripthatdoor: At least thats what I'm assuming it is, possibly shows up as Files or Nautilus
[11:01] <lias81> varunendra: toolazyforaname nearst  what a foolllliiiiiish Am I?!?!?! there is an option when you boot from a live cd , that states you can re-install your ububtu `4,04 and your files wont be deleted! I completely forgot that option. I am wondering if the programms will be there after the re-installing is completed. anyway i will it in few minutes and i ll inform you
[11:02] <nearst> lias81, it will not touch your /home data
[11:13] <lias81> nearst: i pray for it :-p
[11:15] <lias81> nearst: will this action fix all my installation problems?
[11:15] <AlexPortable>  installed ginome session fallback, how can I remove the shutdown icon in the right bottom corner?
[11:18] <basiclaser> where are shared libraries in 14.04? :) I need to add in libudev.so.0
[11:18] <nearst> lias81, hope so
[11:22] <lias81> nearst: I did it ! all my files are there! but all my programms are missing. and still i cant connec to wifi.!!! but when i was with live cd i was conected
[11:22] <basiclaser> lias81: wifi PW might not have been retained, put the PW in again?
[11:23] <lias81> pw?
[11:23] <kristenbb> hello, how can I edit the grub file ? I have installed 14.04 on dual boot, but I keep going back to 12.04, there is no entry to go to 14.04.
[11:23] <basiclaser> lias81: password
[11:23] <lias81> i mean it isnt able to see any wifi! only wired connections and vpn
[11:25] <lias81> nearst: i mean it isnt able to see any wifi! only wired connections and vpn
[11:31] <kokiking> hola
[11:32] <kokiking> algien save como liverar un router?
[11:32] <k1l> !es | kokiking
[11:41] <apb1963> I want to move my /home to a new drive.  What is the recommended ubuntu 12.04 way to do so?
[11:42] <bazhang> !home
[11:42] <apb1963> ty
[11:49] <emx> "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" <-- do i get this message because 12.10 is not supported anymore?
[11:49] <k1l> emx: yep. 12.10 should not be run anymore
[11:53] <philinux> emx;~ you can see here what's going on, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[11:53] <emx> k1l, philinux: thanks
[11:55] <emx> and when i make an update i risk a non-working installation :-/
[11:55] <apb1963> ok there's something a bit odd in that guide....
[11:56] <apb1963> It has the following lines:
[11:56] <apb1963> # (identifier)  (location, eg sda5)   (format, eg ext3 or ext4)      (some settings)
[11:56] <apb1963> UUID=????????   /media/home    ext3          defaults       0       2
[11:56] <apb1963> notice it says "(location, eg sda5)" but has "/media/home"
[11:57] <philinux> emx;~ probably better to clean install 14.04, after backing up important data
[11:58] <emx> hail to version control :)
[11:58] <apb1963> so it's referencing a device in the example... but a mount point in the "live" actual line
[11:58] <emx> the annoying thing will be to gather all the packages i have installed.
[11:59] <philinux> emx;~ packages why?
[11:59] <apb1963> I guess the UUID serves as the device... so the line is right.... but the comment isn't exactly clear.  Yes?
[12:00] <philinux> apb1963;~ my take is that in the example the user created a new partition sda5
[12:00] <BillyZane> hmm
[12:00] <emx> philinux, texmaker/latex/tex as an example. there are many packages that can be installed. i remember that it took me a few hours to have all that i need.
[12:01] <apb1963> philinux: right... like I have /dev/sda1 for my new partition
[12:01] <apb1963> philinux: but the blkid specifies the device... not "sda5".
[12:01] <philinux> apb1963;~ so the uuid refers to sdaX mounted temprarily as /media/home
[12:02]  * lias81 says  many many   T H A N K S  for their valiable help and their time to nearst, varunendra and toolazyforaname . Once again guys I really thank you. Hopefully everything is ok due to your help
[12:03] <apb1963> philinux: right... but, there's no need to mention sdaX since the UUID is the device.  This is what's confusing to me.  sdaX doesn't actually factor in at all...... yes?
[12:03] <philinux> apb1963;~ which then becomes the new /home
[12:03] <levo> is it possible to download mysql jdbc driver from apt-get?
[12:03] <philinux> apb1963;~ it's in a commented line as an aid memoir to which sda is being used
[12:05] <apb1963> philinux: I could see it as an aid to memory for someone that wrote it for themself... but as a tutorial it's slightly confusing.  Hence my confusion :)  But ok so that clarifies it.  Thank you
[12:06] <philinux> apb1963;~ if you look at you current fstab it follows the same pattern , the commented line shows sdaX and the line underneath has the uuid of sdaX
[12:07] <apb1963> philinux: not MY fstab :) Mine  had nothing but: "# UNCONFIGURED FSTAB FOR BASE SYSTEM"
[12:08] <apb1963> philinux: of course I've long since modified it... but that's all I had to start.
[12:08] <apb1963> philinux: so maybe there was something I was supposed to have done?  But never did?
[12:09] <philinux> apb1963;~ sample normal fstab http://paste.ubuntu.com/7819282/
[12:09] <spongie> Hiya. I'm trying to install Ubuntu 14.04 i386 as guest in my qemu. When I pick "install ubuntu" the boot fails because libco.so.6 has wrong ELF header, and the kernel panics. Any of you have Ubuntu running under qemu?
[12:09] <svetlana> !qemu
[12:09] <svetlana> Augh.
[12:09] <apb1963> philinux: mine has never looked like that... why is mine different?
[12:10] <philinux> apb1963;~ no idea at all
[12:10] <apb1963> philinux: by what method do you normally modify it?
[12:11] <philinux> apb1963;~ maybe look at sudo fdisk -l to understand what you got
[12:11] <philinux> apb1963;~ normal don't modify it, but to move home to anew disk then yes you do
[12:12] <apb1963> philinux: oh I understand what my partition table looks like... it's just my fstab that apparently got the short end of the stick
[12:12] <apb1963> philinux: it's always perplexed me.  I never understood why my fstab was empty
[12:12] <philinux> apb1963;~ then you can mofify the #commented line to reflect the setup
[12:13] <philinux> apb1963;~ do this cat /etc/fstab | pastebinit
[12:15] <apb1963> philinux: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7819304/
[12:17] <philinux> apb1963;~ never seen one like that, pc boots ok normally?
[12:17] <apb1963> philinux: yes
[12:17] <apb1963> apb1963: you'll notice everything but swap is commented out
[12:17] <apb1963> oophs
[12:20] <apb1963> philinux: as I mentioned, the file was empty other than ""# UNCONFIGURED FSTAB FOR BASE SYSTEM"  the rest was hand entered... and other than swap, subsequently commented out.
[12:20] <philinux> apb1963;~ I'm not an fstab expert - never seen that
[12:20] <philinux> apb1963;~ what sort of install is it?
[12:21] <apb1963> philinux: I suppose it's possible it's an artifact of using debootstrap
[12:22] <apb1963> philinux: yeah, my new disk also has the same empty file
[12:24] <apb1963> philinux: this is my mtab: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7819460/
[12:28] <alexxio> hi
[12:28] <alexxio> i want to mount an usb dongle read only
[12:28] <alexxio> how can i do it?
[12:29] <philinux> apb1963;~ sorry can't help with that. I'm not familiar enough
[12:29] <philinux> apb1963;~ maybe bazhang can help
[12:30] <apb1963> philinux: maybe :)  but thank you
[12:34] <pasic> hi guys
[12:34] <philinux> apb1963;~ someone asked here, i would not want to bork your system by recommending this http://askubuntu.com/questions/81726/how-to-rebuild-fstab-automatically
[12:34] <pasic> i'd like to make my xubuntu to be ubuntustudio:) ... which packages need to install?
[12:35] <k1l> pasic: !info ubuntustudio-desktop | pasic
[12:35] <k1l> !info ubuntustudio-desktop | pasic
[12:36] <Addy> hi, I am unable to connect to wifi since the network settings seem to be stuck on the WIRELESS HOTSPOT and on disabling the hotspot the network settings CRASH
[12:36] <pasic> thx-thx:) idunno, why it was removed from official metapackages ...
[12:36] <pasic> there're lubuntu, xubuntu, edubuntu .... but not ubuntustudio
[12:37] <pasic> (i don't like use graph install:P)
[12:37] <svetlana> *don't like using
[12:37] <svetlana> Addy: I would probably look at the output of 'dmesg'.
[12:38] <apb1963> philinux: yeah that's a hand edited job... I think just following the guide you pointed out should do it.  About the only difference between what they recommend and what I originally intended is they take great care in how they shift the data around (copy) - I was simply going to move it from /home to /mnt/c/home where my new drive is.
[12:39] <apb1963> philinux: of course they modify the live /etc/fstab whereas I was just going to modify the new one - /mnt/c/etc/fstab
[12:40] <apb1963> philinux: so i'll just use their recommendation to copy (rsync actually), and modify my new fstab and reboot... should be fine.  If not...   I still have the original to boot from.
[12:41] <apb1963> philinux: in truth... my fstab isn't doing anything at all - i'm not even sure swap is mounting anymore (it used to, but I haven't checked on it lately).
[12:41] <Addy> svetlana: Here is the output for my dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/7819531/
[12:42] <bong> how do we empty the trash in lubuntu?
[12:42] <apb1963> philinux: I'm actually more concerned about what "aptik" is going to bring in when I install it.... but that's a different question.
[12:43] <bong> how do we empty the trash in lubuntu?
[12:44] <Addy> svetlana: Here is the output for my dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/7819531/
[12:45] <svetlana> Addy: you may want to paste the entire thing, without grepping.
[12:48] <philinux> apb1963;~ good luck , interesting app
[12:49] <apb1963> philinux: did you install it?  or just read about it?
[12:49] <Addy> svetlana: Here you go without grep http://paste.ubuntu.com/7819562/
[12:49] <Addy> Hope this helps as I am unable to find a solution since 8 hours for this problem
[12:49] <philinux> apb1963;~ read about it, I've have no ppa's on my system. I dont install many additionnal apps
[12:50] <svetlana> Addy: this helps after you resume from suspend or at some other time?
[12:50] <varunendra> Addy, that sounds a very strange problem to me. But for technical details, the 'wireless_script' would be much better than manually hunting for clues. I suggest the experimental one : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=13024222
[12:50] <svetlana> Addy: *this happens
[12:50] <apb1963> philinux: just no interest, or are you more interested in trying to stay pure?
[12:51] <philinux> apb1963;~ i use stuff like vlc etc etc stuff not installed by default
[12:51] <Addy> varunendra: I have already posted it the wireless script output on forums but no replies till now so I came here on irc
[12:51] <apb1963> philinux: you mean stuff only in the repos
[12:52] <philinux> mainly yep
[12:52] <varunendra> Addy, please give me the link to your thread/post
[12:52] <Addy> varunendra: Here is the thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2235151
[12:52] <jkg> hi folks. I'm failing to install emacs 24 on 14.04. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7819567/ happens when I try. I'm not really sure where to start digging, any pointers would be appreciated.
[12:53] <apb1963> philinux: yeah, I found that to be a bit limiting.  Hell, I got started on ubuntu by someone that recommended it so I could run asterisk... so I was "out of compliance" from day 1 just by installing asterisk.
[12:53] <Addy> varunendra: I had also asked on askubuntu http://askubuntu.com/questions/499811/ubuntu-14-04-libnetwork-so-crash-for-unity-control-centre
[12:54] <varunendra> Addy, funny that it was moved to a new thread on my very request. I fell asleep while waiting for it to be moved.. ;p
[12:54] <jkg> uh. ignore my previous question. removing the gforth package it Just Works, so I'd obviously left something half-done and broken at some point. sorry!
[12:55] <varunendra> Addy, but you have posted the output of the regular version of the script, not the experimental one I linked to. It provides more info that can be very useful sometimes.
[12:56] <Addy> varunendra: I hope that you are able to help me since I have tried many a times to move to ubuntu but honestly this kind of a day literally puts me off from the wonderful OS
[12:56] <Addy> varunendra: I would try the experimental one as well now give me sometime
[12:56] <laughingtiger> what?
[12:57] <varunendra> Addy, I agree, Ubuntu still has many issues that may be annoying at times. But every OS has and in the end it is the overall advantage/disadvantage compared to other OSes that should become the deciding factor.
[12:58] <laughingtiger> NICK laughingtiger
[13:00] <Addy> varunendra: do you want me to post the output on the forums or here on pastebin
[13:00] <varunendra> Addy, I have no clue why it is stuck at hotspot mode, but there are two probably non-related things that you should optimize - first - please change the encryption type in your router to pure WPA2-PSK with AES, no WPA/WPA2 mixed mode.
[13:00] <varunendra> Addy, both would be nice :)
[13:01] <Addy> varunendra: Here is the link http://paste.ubuntu.com/7819601/
[13:02] <varunendra> Addy, the second thing that can (should) be optimized - explicitly define your country code (IN) for regdomain settings. You can do so by editing the "/etc/default/crda" file to change "REGDOMAIN=" to "REGDOMAIN=IN". The change will take effect after a reboot.
[13:05] <Kristina21>  You can find funny videos here. http://j.mp/1sAwP6t
[13:05] <Addy> varunendra: I have changed the router's wifi security to WPA2-PSK with AES earlier it was Automatic with AES, but since I am connected through web irc I cannot reboot the router
[13:05] <paulo_> hello
[13:05] <paulo_> i'm downloading VLC through apt-get and I keep gettign 404 errors
[13:06] <k1l> paulo_: please pastebin the output
[13:06] <varunendra> Addy, rebooting the router is usually not necessary unless the router itself is asking you to do so. It is just to make sure the change takes effect properly and immediately. Most routers can adapt the change immediately anyway.
[13:06] <MV48> Hello all, I've just installed ubuntu 14.14 and can't seem to get dual monitors working. I've tried using the "settings >  displays" and disper (command line app). Both displays show and they recently worked with my win7 setup. Any tips? thx
[13:07] <Addy> varunendra: I have just changed the crda file and rebooted
[13:08] <varunendra> Addy, exactly at which stage does the system crash while trying to change/disable the hotspot mode?
[13:10] <paulo_> ubuntu just went full screen terminal
[13:10] <paulo_> idk what I pressed
[13:10] <paulo_> I smashed the keyboard and got back here
[13:10] <paulo_> what happened?
[13:10] <yossarianuk> .....
[13:10] <Addy> varunendra: I access the Network from System Settings....then when I click on SWITCH OFF the WIRELESS HOTSPOT then it asks for a confirmation and then BOOM the window showing the option goes off and there is a CRASH in the syslog
[13:11] <MV48> I'd like to rephrase my question. I've just installed ubuntu 14.14 and my laptop screen doesn't display, while my VGA monitor does. I can't seem to "extend" the view. Here's a pastebin of disper -l output: http://pastebin.com/LupWf9xL
[13:12] <varunendra> Addy, we can try a potentially problematic solution. But I'm not sure if it has the problem to trigger the above bug automatically since next boot, so keep a live dvd/usb handy if we try that.
[13:13] <nightdemon666> anyone here manage to properly get a bluetooth headset to work in ubuntu 14.04???
[13:14] <Addy> varunendra: I have a install usb with me which I can use as a LIVE USB
[13:14] <varunendra> Addy, the thing I'm thinking of trying is to just move the hotspot profile file from /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections directory. Move it to your Desktop or some other folder, but not in your Home.
[13:14] <gcl5cp> how do i capture STDOUT of a process running in tty4? it has 2 days running so i don't want to stop it, can i capture STDOUT in tty3, by PID or...?
[13:15] <Addy> varunendra: do you need the exact screenshot and also the line of syslog where the unity contol centre error where it mentions something about libnetwork.so
[13:17] <varunendra> Addy, if you see anything that looks like a hint, please upload that section of the logs (with some extra lines before/after).
[13:17] <lubuntu-rules> How to solve problems with Unity interface >>   http://img42.com/uNIym+
[13:20] <Addy> varunendra: moving the hotspot profile has atleast done something
[13:21] <Addy> varunendra: now atleast in the network I can see the available wifi networks with their strengths....now the hotspot profile was something which was causing the problem....is it needed for further investigation
[13:21] <kamal_> gcl5cp: http://stackoverflow.com/a/1421039
[13:21] <varunendra> Addy, keep it for now. Delete it when we are done.
[13:22] <cagri> Are there any good ubuntu math programs, like maple/mathcad
[13:22] <varunendra> Addy, so are you unable to connect to the AP now?
[13:22] <nightdemon666> im assuming no one here is using a bluetooth headset with their ubuntu 14.04 installation --- IM SURE SOMEBODY HERE USES SKYPE!
[13:23] <Octavian95> hi all
[13:23] <Octavian95> i'm trying to set up a hotspot in 12.04 but its not visible on my android 4.1.2 device please help
[13:24] <varunendra> Addy, the only other thing that I can think of to help optimize the connectivity is to try some driver parameters as explained here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12815912
[13:26] <Addy> varunendra: When I try to connect to the AP nothing happens and this what happens at the syslog level http://paste.ubuntu.com/7819685/
[13:26] <varunendra> Addy, usually we try backported drivers in case of such connectivity problems, especially in case of realtek drivers, but due to some unknown bug (bug #1342703), the latest backported package fails to compile on kernel 3.13.0-30 and later
[13:27] <Addy> varunendra: please note that the first line of the paste is the error which was happening due to the HOTSPOT profile
[13:28] <Octavian95> somebody?
[13:31] <varunendra> Addy, I suggest you also delete the profile "RU" and try connecting again to create a fresh profile. It looks like a security key or other authentication issue. Could be related to the change you just made in encryption of the router.
[13:32] <gcl5cp> kamal_: thank you
[13:35] <Octavian95> varunendra: seems like you have some knowledge about wifi and hotspot related issues could you help me please?
[13:37] <varunendra> Octavian95, some knowledge about wifi - yes, but about hotspot - almost none. But let me see..
[13:37] <lubuntu-rules> Octavian95:  What wifi device do you have?
[13:38] <varunendra> Octavian95, are you sure the hotspot mode is activated currently? Plus the answer to what lubuntu-rules asked..
[13:39] <varunendra> Octavian95, to find out exactly which device + driver you have, please show us the output of "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net"
[13:39] <Octavian95> i have 2 wifi device (the one thats inside my laptop and a usb dongle)
[13:39] <Addy> varunendra: I forgot to mention that the option to connect to the wifi is also not coming on the Desktop, I basically have to access it through the Network settings only
[13:39] <varunendra> Octavian95, and which one are you using as the hotspot?
[13:41] <Octavian95> varunendra: the internal one
[13:41] <varunendra> Addy, you mean the SSID is not visible in nm-applet's drop-down menu?
[13:41] <Octavian95> which is b44 as i see from that command
[13:41] <varunendra> Octavian95, b44 is ethernet card, not wifi
[13:41] <Addy> varunendra: there is no nm-applet if that is what it is called
[13:41] <varunendra> sorry, *driver, not card
[13:42] <varunendra> Addy, it is the network manager's icon on the top-right corner (if using default ubuntu with unity)
[13:42] <Addy> varunendra: there is no option to click and enable networking on the system bar (sorry for my bad way of explaining things since I am coming from windows)
[13:42] <Octavian95> well i'm trying to bring the internet from one wifi connection to another
[13:42] <Octavian95> not from the wired connection (lan)
[13:43] <Addy> varunendra: Yes the network manager's icon on the top-right is also not coming
[13:43] <varunendra> Addy, is it Ubuntu with Unity?
[13:44] <Addy> varunendra: yes Ubuntu with Unity..the one which is downloaded from the ubuntu website desktop
[13:46] <varunendra> Addy, in a terminal, please enter "nm-applet" - are there any error messages? If not, is the icon back and working (must keep the terminal open in background in this method)
[13:47] <Addy> varunendra: I am getting the message tht program nm-applet can be found in the following packages: *network-manager-gnome *mythbuntu-diskless-client
[13:48] <varunendra> Addy, wow! How and when did you manage to remove the network manager? Did you try some other network manager program (wicd for example?)
[13:49] <Addy> varunendra: no idea...earlier I was trying to clear a problem with my display since there are 2 display GPUs in my notebook and maybe then I might have done something...can't really be sure of this that how I had removed the network manager
[13:50] <Addy> varunendra: would I need to do to a reinstall of the ubuntu now :(, would I be able to keep my home folder in that case
[13:52] <reversiblean_> Why don't you guys fix the low resolution boot splash screen issues with nvidia. Content here is out dated https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia as well.
[13:53] <Octavian95> so i'm trying to create a hotspot by using 2 wireless cards (internal builtin card from laptop + usb wifi card) i'm trying to get the internet from the usb card to be spreaded through internal wifi card from my laptop. i tryed but not working till now
[13:53] <varunendra> Addy, reinstalling network-manager is not a big deal :)
[13:53] <Octavian95> is that even possible or did i do something wrong? tried ap-hotspot too still not working
[13:53] <Addy> varunendra: I can recall yesterday the wifi was working properly and then I just did a Hibernate of my system and then when I came to office in the morning the wifi was doing these things
[13:53] <Octavian95> :(
[13:54] <Addy> varunendra: I think the network manager was lost due to hibernation...this is the best I can think off since I cannot recall trying to remove the manager or installing wicd
[13:54] <varunendra> Addy, use the command "apt-get install --print-uris network-manager-gnome" to print the download URIs of the required packages > download them on a system where internet is working > move them to the target machine > install with "sudo dpkg -i *"
[13:56] <varunendra> Addy, this kind of mysterious disappearance of a package is not usual though, makes me suspect of a broken install - broken from beginning or later. But maybe just reinstalling the package(s) will fix everything.
[13:58] <varunendra> Octavian95, if you don't already have, I recommend posting a thread about your problem on ubuntuforums.org. I am not much familiar with Hotspots like I said, but plenty of users/experts are who may be able to help you out in no time.
[14:05] <Addy> varunendra: Also while I was trying some commands from your post which you gave the wifi is not visible at all after the modprobe command with -rv
[14:05] <Addy> varunendra: is it going to be fixed when I install the nm
[14:07] <varunendra> Addy, the "-r" option with modprobe removes the driver. Without "-r" the driver is loaded/reloaded. So that will obviously disable wifi. Just run the next command and it'll be back. :)
[14:12] <Addy> varunendra: can I reset these values, also I am still not getting the network manager icon on the desktop
[14:12] <Guest47013> internet in my ubuntu 14.04 is very very very very slow   why ?
[14:12] <Guest47013> please help me
[14:13] <varunendra> Addy, just remove/reload the drivers without parameters, and everything will be at defaults. For the nm-applet icon, you need to install the network-manager-gnome package like I mentioned earlier. Did you get that message?
[14:13] <svetlana> varunendra, bekks: I had to burn using another computer. then this computer reads the dvd okay. -- this means that the dvd was okay when it was blank, too, but there is some software issue (or inability of this hardware to write).
[14:13] <Addy> varunendra: the network manager has been installed and it is working fine
[14:14] <varunendra> svetlana, it may also be an incompatibility between the disc type and the writer's capabilities :|
[14:14] <Addy> varunendra: after installing the 3 files the wifi has started to work but only the nm-applet icon are not showing
[14:15] <varunendra> Addy, did you try the "nm-applet" command again? Any more errors this time?
[14:16] <varunendra> Guest47013, please rationalize "very very very.... slow". How do you measure the speeds? Any stats or comparisons?
[14:17] <Addy_> varunendra: I am getting this message http://pastebin.com/BbweTixh
[14:18] <apb1963> Has anyone used blueprint for package management?
 Internet speed is low
  IP6 is disable but still internet speed is slow
[14:19] <Addy_> varunendra: btw I am now on the notebook atleast the internet is now working after you pointed out that rubbish of my network manager tools being missing
[14:20] <Mrloafbot> 1
[14:20] <Octavian95> does ubuntu 12.04 have any built in picture editor? something like paint from windows ?
[14:21] <bekks> Octavian95: Just install an editor if you like :) Something like gimp
[14:21] <varunendra> Addy_, the nm-applet icon doesn't come up after that message in terminal? Have you rebooted the system after installation (shouldn't be necessary, but may help getting rid of that error)
[14:21] <apb1963> Octavian95: try gimp or inkscape or krita
[14:21] <svetlana> gpaint
[14:21] <tobylane> I installed ubuntu to a laptop by a usb stick but couldn't install grub or lilo at the time. I'm now running a live-usb and I'm trying to get to the right place to run grub. Where is the right place to install grub on the hard drive from a livecd?
[14:22] <Octavian95> well i need a simple one
[14:22] <Octavian95> i dont need fancy features
[14:22] <Addy_> varunendra: I did reboot but let me give it another shot...I would reboot again and comeback.
[14:22] <varunendra> Octavian95, If you prefer something like paint on windows, try kolourpaint
[14:22] <Octavian95> ok where can i get it?
[14:23] <varunendra> Guest47013, we still have neither stats nor comparisons to define 'slow'. How much average download/upload speed are you getting?
[14:23] <levo> Octavian95: sudo apt-get install kolourpaint
[14:23] <tobylane> My hard drive is sdb1, but I'm told that's already mounted at /cdrom which is the live usb
[14:24] <varunendra> Octavian95, it is in default repos. "sudo apt-get install kolourpaint"
[14:25] <Addy_> varunendra: I just rebooted again and still there is no icon for the network manager
[14:25] <Flaiker> Hi, I have a spare hdd I'd like to install ubuntu on. I have windows 8.1 on  my ssd. How will choosing the os work? Since they are on different drives, can I just select the device to boot from in my bios and not have to use a bootmanager?
[14:25] <tobylane> Flaiker a boot manager is tidier
[14:25] <Octavian95> i get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7819927/
[14:25] <varunendra> Addy_, the icon not coming up automatically is not unusual, but that error in terminal is. I suspect something else is broken too.
[14:26] <tobylane> You can have it only wait one second for an answer, so you'd have to be pressing buttons in that one second to get the non default os Flaiker
[14:26] <daftykins> Flaiker: you'd have to pull the SSD and install with the other drive only connected
[14:27] <Flaiker> tobylane: well, i havent used any os other than windows so I just wanted to try it out and if I dont like it it might be a pain to get the bootmanager away again
[14:27] <Flaiker> no?
[14:27] <varunendra> Octavian95, sorry, that is the package you need to install "kolourpaint4"
[14:27] <Addy_> varunendra: what should I do to get to the root cause...do you suspect more broken packages in my notebook which is causing this kind of behaviour.
[14:27] <tobylane> Flaiker you can repair it to what windows wants from within windows
[14:27] <tobylane> Or simply turn grub to 0 seconds
[14:28] <Addy_> varunendra: I just again typed the nm-tool and this time around I get a good response.
[14:28] <Octavian95> so "sudo apt-get install kolourpaint4" should work then?
[14:29] <varunendra> Addy_, I think I am a bit confused at this moment (multitasking and also interacting with chili555 via PMs on a separate issue). Please post the current status (including the nm-applet error in terminal) at the forums and maybe I'll get back on proper track. :)
[14:29] <Addy_> varunendra: this is the output of nm-tool here http://paste.ubuntu.com/7819943/
[14:29] <Flaiker> tobylane, you by chance know where that repair option is?
[14:29] <tobylane> I saw it on google 20 mins ago, I'll look for it
[14:30] <Flaiker> propably just using the repair console right?
[14:30] <tobylane> Flaiker never done it myself, but here's what google says http://www.tweakhound.com/2012/11/13/how-to-fix-the-windows-bootloader/
[14:30] <varunendra> Addy_, WOW!!! We are having nice discoveries here... the user permission is funky too :D
[14:31] <Octavian95> you gotta be kidding me kolourpaint is 191MB i need a smaller photo editor something under 10MB if possible :(
[14:31] <varunendra> Addy_, please show us the output of "id"
[14:31] <bekks> Octavian95: Isnt possible. :)
[14:31] <Flaiker> tobylane, thanks, nice to know about that beforehand
[14:31] <tobylane> Octavian95 features are worth it in programs nowadays
[14:31] <varunendra> Octavian95, that is because it is meant for KDE desktop environment. So comes with a big baggage if your DE is not KDE :D
[14:31] <cfhowlett> !photo
[14:32] <Octavian95> then which is the smallest photo editor then?
[14:32] <tobylane> Depends on your DE
[14:32] <cfhowlett> Octavian95 look in software center - choice abounds
[14:32] <varunendra> Octavian95, if you are on Unity or gnome, try gpaint that svetlana suggested earlier.
[14:32] <tobylane> Octavian95 what is the most complicated thing you need it to do?
[14:32] <varunendra> !info gpaint | Octavian95
[14:32] <tobylane> You could get away with a web editor
[14:32] <Octavian95> draw a few lines :))
[14:33] <Addy_> varunendra: Now I am kind of confused as to how many commands do ppl using Linux have to learn and keep them in mind. here you go btw for the id output http://paste.ubuntu.com/7819961/
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> Addy_  if all goes well: none
[14:33] <varunendra> Addy_, you can keep using it without learning a single command. Commands just make things quick and easy for us troubleshooters :)
[14:34] <Octavian95> i'm gonna try gpaint
[14:34] <tobylane> Octavian95 control imagemagick from the command line?
[14:34] <tobylane> I could do with a program that could turn coords into a line map
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> Addy_  if you want control beyond the basics, commands can be handy
[14:35] <Addy_> MonkeyDust: I love the learning and hence I have switched to Linux but honestly would love to know small commands to do the changes for a power user, it is just that I don't know where to start
[14:35] <Octavian95> tobylane: what?
[14:36] <oscar> Addy_: Heres a good place to start: https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> !cli
[14:36] <daftykins> wow that trigger is outdated.
[14:37] <ikonia> and it's gone
[14:37] <oscar> or man bash
[14:37] <tobylane> I'm a little out of date with DEs, what is worth trying between e17 and xcfe?
[14:37] <varunendra> Addy_, the permissions look okay to me. The only one that I have here and you don't is "disk" - which I don't think is related to the wifi issue. But let's add you to that as well. Please run the command "sudo adduser aditya disk"
[14:37] <b100s> hi2all
[14:37] <cfhowlett> tobylane they're free.  "worth it" is subjective.  try them or don't = your choice
[14:37] <daftykins> ikonia: would it not be better to come up with a replacement rather than nuke?
[14:38] <tobylane> Ok
[14:38] <b100s> i have 3.13.0-30-generic #55-Ubuntu and after use HDMI cant get back sound
[14:38] <ikonia> daftykins: whole thing is pretty worthless you're welcome to write a replacement
[14:39] <Addy_> varunendra: did that but after that when I run id it does not show the disk there
[14:40] <neutrino> where is the folder which has userchrome.css for firefox in ubuntu ?
[14:40] <varunendra> Addy_, if adding yourself to the "disk" group doesn't fix that error in nm-tool, I think you should delete and re-create the connection once again. I suspect a permission issue with the connection profile itself now (and I may be wrong again).
[14:40] <Beldar> daftykins, You need to write a book "the world from mt personal view is the best way". ;)
[14:40] <Beldar> my*
[14:40] <varunendra> Addy_, close the terminal, open a new one. The new one should show the new group in the output
[14:40] <daftykins> Beldar: heh, it's done but i can't find a publisher that does it right ;)
[14:41] <varunendra> Addy_, likewise, you *may* have to log off >> log in again for the permission to take effect properly. Although I still don't think it should be related to wifi issue.
[14:42] <Addy_> varunendra: so what do you suggest....ne more suggestons?
[14:43] <Octavian95> ok so here's my post about my hotspot issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2235172
[14:43] <optrusty> I have a siri bot
[14:43] <varunendra> Addy_, delete the profile > recreate a new one (after log off > re login). If the error persists, post the updates on your thread @ ubuntuforums. My brain may work better after dinner ;p
[14:43] <cfhowlett> optrusty ask or support ubuntu questions
[14:44] <optrusty> oh this is not offtopic srry
[14:44] <varunendra> Octavian95, opened and subscribed. I think I'll just wait for someone to jump in though.
[14:45] <Octavian95> varunendra: ok
[14:46] <Octavian95> i must go now i will come back later to see if someone posted something in the thread
[14:46] <Octavian95> bye all and thanks
[14:50] <optrusty> I think u should connect both wifi connections via switch
[14:50] <optrusty> Thats what I did
[14:51] <optrusty> And if they both use the same ip 192.168.x.x
[14:52] <optrusty> Aw he left
[14:54] <varunendra> optrusty, but he has a thread where you can leave your suggestions : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2235172
[14:54] <optrusty> k
[14:54] <apb1963> so I'm debating the best way to move off one drive and onto a new one.  I've already setup the second disk using debootstrap.  I've migrated /home to the new drive.  Now, afaik I only have to worry about reinstalling packages.  There seem to be a variety of ideas on the subject... can one of you experts provide some enlightened guidance?
[14:56] <Flaiker> tobylane, So I just read some articles about dual booting on 2 drives. The way I understand it is that I set my boot medium in bios to the hdd which will then load grub, to let me chose either windows (sdd) or ubuntu (hdd). If I switch my boot medium to the ssd my windows bootloader will load, not knowing about ubuntu and therefore just loading normally. Which would make it possible to remove the hdd
[14:56] <Flaiker> and have no issues at all. Correct?
[14:59] <TJ-> apb1963: I usually do "dpkg --get-selections | grep -v '^lib' >/target/tmp/packages.list" and then in the chroot "cat /tmp/packages.list | xargs apt-get install"
[15:00] <tobylane> Yes Flaiker
[15:00] <tobylane> If you think you'll be removing drives you could put grub on both
[15:00] <tobylane> If I was in your situation I'd partition off a large chunk of the hard drive as a media drive
[15:02] <Flaiker> well, i have another two drives
[15:02] <Flaiker> for programs and data
[15:02] <Flaiker> so thats not a concern
[15:03] <Flaiker> 128gb ssd (windows), 1tb hdd (data), 1tb hdd (programs), 500gb hdd spare (-> to be ubuntu)
[15:08] <CorrosiveEye> I have three kernels installed in my system. Is it safe to uninstall the kernel versions I'm not using? How can I do so safely?
[15:08] <mint> uhuh
[15:08] <cfhowlett> CorrosiveEye safe, but keep the current and immediate previous kernel is a best practice
[15:09] <mint> uh
[15:10] <CorrosiveEye> Well the system updater (forgot what it's called) is complaining about not having enough space in /boot. I just wanted to know how I can safely make room in /boot for the update.
[15:10] <apb1963> TJ-: thank you.  From what I've ready, that list of targets generated  this won't keep track of which packages were explicitly installed by the user and which were installed as dependencies. This means that if you use this method to recreate your setup on another machine, apt won't be able to remove unneeded dependencies when you remove a given package.
[15:10] <apb1963> TJ-: Have you run into that at all?
[15:10] <cfhowlett> CorrosiveEye only 3 kernels?  that's not what's eating up your space
[15:11] <apb1963> s/ready/read
[15:11] <apb1963> s/this//
[15:13] <CorrosiveEye> cfhowlett, should I show the contents of /boot?
[15:13] <TJ-> apb1963: Yes, that can happen but when I'm cloning I want identical package sets so it doesn't worry me
[15:13] <tobylane> I just repaired grub per instructions, i have a working ubuntu installation and working grub, but they don't work together
[15:14] <TJ-> apb1963: otherwise, parse "/var/log/apt/history*" and extract the primary packages into a list similar to the output of --get-selections
[15:14] <MonkeyDust>  CorrosiveEye paste this line in a terminal, i hope it's useful     find / -size +1G -exec ls -lh {} \; 2>/dev/null
[15:14] <apb1963> TJ-: ok fair enough.  I'm unsure as to what I want... other than zero problems :)
[15:14] <varunendra> CorrosiveEye, MonkeyDust another way - "du -h | sort -h"
[15:15] <varunendra> ofcourse in /boot
[15:17] <CorrosiveEye> Looks like I'm short 5M for the installation. Should I move a directory from /boot to a temporary location and move it back after the installation?
[15:17] <CorrosiveEye> the update*
[15:18] <varunendra> CorrosiveEye, it is always a good idea to have at least 200 MB or more space in /boot and root (/)
[15:18] <apb1963> TJ-: that's pretty painful... requires lots of cleanup :(
[15:18] <CorrosiveEye> /boot has 200MB allocated already
[15:18] <varunendra> CorrosiveEye, what is the size of you /boot partition? And why have you kept it separate?
[15:18] <CorrosiveEye> i mean 244
[15:19] <varunendra> CorrosiveEye, what kind of update is that? Only kernel images/headers go in there, plus initramfs which shouldn't be too large
[15:19] <mint> uhuh
[15:19] <varunendra> CorrosiveEye, do you have a separate /boot partition or just the root (/) ?
[15:20] <CorrosiveEye> varunendra, It's a separate partition
[15:20] <mint> uh
[15:20] <pumice> I am running xubuntu, and having a difficult time installing adobe flash so I can play farmville, how do I install the flash requirements?
[15:20] <tracyone> hi everyone,I install nautilus3 in Lubuntu14.04,and set the default filemanger to nautilus,after restart ,there is nothing in desktop,and i can't create file in my desktop
[15:21] <varunendra> CorrosiveEye, it should be interesting to see the updates you are going to get. Can you pastebin it here please?
[15:21] <tobylane> So, this dodgy grub that doesn't like ubuntu, when I like the liveusb to boot into that installed ubuntu it sends me to initramfs
[15:21] <tobylane> *when i use
[15:21] <mint> uhuh
[15:22] <cew_smart> hai
[15:22] <CorrosiveEye> varunendra, I'm using the GUI updater. How can I get the list of updates in in plain text?
[15:23] <varunendra> CorrosiveEye, "sudo apt-get update" and/or "sudo apt-get upgrade" I guess.
[15:23] <tracyone> :'(
[15:23] <mint> uhuh
[15:24] <tobylane> I'm starting to think grub doesn't like this laptop
[15:24] <tobylane> And nor lilo
[15:25] <CorrosiveEye> this is the output from `sudo apt-get upgrade` http://pastebin.com/w5neBez3
[15:25] <CorrosiveEye> varunendra, ^
[15:26] <bekks> CorrosiveEye: so run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:26] <joe-w-bimedina> I was hoping someone could help me with this, tracker-store is eating alot of CPU, and I was wondering if there was a way to make it run only when pc is idle
[15:26] <varunendra> CorrosiveEye, I heard about some bug with dist-upgrade, but probably that's the equivalent of the GUI updater
[15:27] <varunendra> s/heard/read(at UF)
[15:27] <tobylane> joe depends on your definition of idle, you can give it low priority
[15:27] <apb1963> TJ-: Have you tried aptitude search '~i!~M' -F '%p'  ??  I don't know if it's any different?  Yet another variation I found was dpkg -l  .... I'm getting a headache trying to figure out how they differ from each other and whatyou suggested.
[15:27] <mint> huHuHuhuhuhhUHUHUuh
[15:28]  * varunendra hands mint a bottle of cough-syrup
[15:28] <CorrosiveEye> I guess to avoid this problem in the future we need to allocate more disk space for /boot?
[15:28] <varunendra> CorrosiveEye, of course :) What is the current size by the way?
[15:28] <mint> varunendra: lol
[15:28] <CorrosiveEye> varunendra, 244MB by default
[15:29] <CorrosiveEye> I let the Ubuntu Installer run it's own course
[15:29] <joe-w-bimedina> I meant like with screensaver how it only comes on when you are not using pc
[15:29] <varunendra> CorrosiveEye, unless you have some specific reason to keep it separate, why don't you keep it all in '/'?
[15:30] <tobylane> Joe I guess you could programatically start a timer after each second of activity
[15:30] <varunendra> CorrosiveEye, you mean the installer itself chose that size for /boot? :o
[15:30] <CorrosiveEye> varunendra, I think EFI systems need a separate /boot partition?
[15:30] <CorrosiveEye> yes varunendra
[15:31] <varunendra> CorrosiveEye, separate yes, but probably it is a "UEFI" or "EFI" partition, not sure about that though.
[15:31] <CorrosiveEye> varunendra, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_Guide#Partition_scheme
[15:32] <joe-w-bimedina> and then would i run tracker on my own instead of letting it run on auto, not sure how to decide  when it would need to be run, but if I can run it once a night that would be good
[15:32] <CorrosiveEye> varunendra, I also remember on my arch system, mounting the EFI partition to /boot.
[15:33] <varunendra> CorrosiveEye, yup, it is a separate EFI partition, not /boot. The kernel images, initramfs etc. don't go in it.
[15:33] <CorrosiveEye> ahhh I see
[15:34] <bekks> CorrosiveEye: EFI systems need a separate /boot/efi
[15:34] <apb1963> is there a tool that will give me a split screen diff of two (or three) files?
[15:35] <hans> hi guys
[15:35] <apb1963> so I can compare the differences between multiple files side by side?
[15:35] <varunendra> CorrosiveEye, on ubuntu forums, I have seen even 2 GB /boot partitions getting short of space over time (super long time actually) :p
[15:35] <svetlana> apb1963: vim -diff, or kdiff3
[15:35] <apb1963> svetlana: thank you!
[15:35] <varunendra> apb1963, is the "diff" command not sufficient for your need?
[15:36] <svetlana> not if it is in 1 column
[15:36] <tobylane> With grub install whats the difference between root and boot directories?
[15:36] <apb1963> varunendra: no, I can't really tell what it's doing
[15:36] <CorrosiveEye> varunendra, a good solution would be to move non-critical files to / then, right?
[15:36] <CorrosiveEye> then we can write a utility that manages the /boot partition in that way.
[15:36] <varunendra> svetlana, I remember having used it with some option to show results side-by-side :)
[15:37] <varunendra> CorrosiveEye, I personally prefer keeping everything in one giant '/' - depends on usage and personal preference
[15:38] <varunendra> svetlana, the -y option to diff :D
[15:40] <tobylane> Just did a third thing that supposedly fixes grub, but it still sends me to grub terminal
[15:40] <CorrosiveEye> vanunendra, True, but since Ubuntu creates a separate /boot partition by default... there should be a way to automatically manage this problem since it's occurrence is inevitable. What do you think?
[15:40] <cew_smart> what is from indonesia
[15:41] <tobylane> Yep, done all the options listed
[15:41] <CorrosiveEye> and it renders the GUI updater useless. That's a big problem for non-power users, no?
[15:41] <svetlana> apb1963, <varunendra> svetlana, the -y option to diff :D
[15:41] <TJ-> apb1963: answer to getting the package list out of history.logs: "zcat -f /var/log/apt/history.log* | awk '/^Commandline/{split($0,P," ");for(i in P) if(i>3) if(substr(P[i],0,1)!="-") if(P[i]!="install") print P[i];}' "
[15:42] <apb1963> svetlana: varunendra: thank you
[15:42] <varunendra> np :)
[15:42] <svetlana> :)
[15:43] <apb1963> TJ-: thank you.  But, doesn't it strike you as... insane, that one has to go through all that pain to find a simple list of explictly installed packages?
[15:43] <varunendra> CorrosiveEye, there are a few more things in my "wishlist" for ubuntu. Unfortunately, no system is perfect, we do need additional tools to do certain things.
[15:43] <varunendra> tools or extra work.. *
[15:44] <apb1963> someone went to the trouble of writing "apt-mark showmanual"  ... yet it fails to do its intended purpose.
[15:44] <zykotick9> CorrosiveEye: just sayin' my /boot currently uses 11M of 228M, i remove old kernels...
[15:48] <apb1963> TJ-: I do appreciate the effort... here's what it produced: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7820282
[15:50] <CorrosiveEye> thanks for the help guys
[15:51] <varunendra> apb1963, are you aware of the "dpkg --get-selections" method?
[15:52] <TJ-> apb1963: weird, it shouldn't have include the "--reinstall"
[15:52] <TJ-> apb1963: you could use 'debfoster --show-keepers" ... after you've built its database
[15:53] <varunendra> apb1963, that is the simpler method to get the list of installed packages, but is possible on a running system. What TJ- suggested is a method to extract that list from logs (useful on broken, unbootable installs)
[15:54] <TJ-> varunendra: We're trying to avoid --get-selections and only list the 'keeper' packages - the ones that cause others to be installed, so that the dependency graph is maintained correctly.
[15:55] <varunendra> TJ-, isn't there a way to "ignore" the already installed packages when using "--set-selections"?
[15:58] <TJ-> varunendra: That's not what apb1963 is trying to achieve. The aim is to extract the 'keepers' on the installed system and install them on the target, so that the *target* builds the correct dependency graph. Using --get-selections > --set-selections doesn't do that
[15:58] <sasuke> hi guys, can anybody help me. I was unable to connect to my bluetooth device. this is what i'm seeing in log files http://pastebin.com/YVxuRBXe. Please help me out
[16:03] <varunendra> TJ-, yes I understand the difference. I just believe (and have experienced once) that the dependency graph remains the same unless some package is critically changed in new versions. The list generated by --get-selections doesn't contain versions, only names, so versions are not an issue while installing the list on a newer system, they are automatically adapted as per new system.
[16:04] <TJ-> sasuke: "bluetooth hci0: firmware: intel/ibt-hw-37.7.bseq will not be loaded" ... looks like the system may need additional firmware loading into the bluetooth chipset
[16:05] <softballs> TJ-: tnx for all the help last night :)
[16:06] <TJ-> softballs: Hey! it was fun wasn't it?
[16:06] <TJ-> softballs: nothing like some decent hacking
[16:06] <softballs> tj sure was, didn't think we were gonna get those last things done but we did :9
[16:09] <cjk> 1
[16:09] <softballs> TJ-: gonna move the code to my aws server today and see if it runs just as fine there, it should though
[16:11] <TJ-> softballs: it'd make sense for you to maintain it and your changes as they happen in a git repository, with a public remote on - say - github. That way others can contribute changes and track each change you make
[16:11] <softballs> TJ-: haven't ever used git, id have to read up on it
[16:12] <basketball> how do i setup adobe flash player and shockwave in chrome correctly
[16:12] <bkuberek_> hello
[16:13] <bkuberek_> I used the command chsh to change my shell, but it takes a few hours for it to actually work
[16:13] <bkuberek_> Is there any cache that needs to be cleared or updated?
[16:14] <bkuberek_> I see the right shell in /etc/passwd but my env still shows the old SHELL
[16:16] <donkey_boy> burn all jews in oven
[16:16] <donkey_boy> death to infidels
[16:16] <donkey_boy> god bless allah
[16:16] <donkey_boy> i throw stones to jews
[16:16] <donkey_boy> my stones crush israeli tanks
[16:16] <donkey_boy> allahu akhbar
[16:16] <donkey_boy> death to infidels
[16:17] <donkey_boy> DEATH TO INFIDELS
[16:17] <donkey_boy> ALLAHU AKHBAR
[16:17] <donkey_boy> DEATH TO JEWS
[16:17] <donkey_boy> only muslims have a right to live
[16:17] <cew_smart> cara mainnya gimana :(
[16:17] <Synchunk> !ops donkey_boy
[16:18] <Synchunk> Whoops, I don't think this is working here. :<
[16:25] <optrusty> Somebody got banned
[16:25] <ikonia> optrusty: you don't need to comment on it
[16:25] <optrusty> ok
[16:25] <optrusty> I wont next time
[16:26] <basketball> how do i setup adobe flash player and shockwave in chrome correctly
[16:27] <OerHeks> basketball, not, chrome has buildin shockwave flash.
[16:28] <optrusty> basketball: I think chrominum
[16:29] <basketball> When i need to use shockwave it says a plug-in (Shockwave Flash) isnt responding
[16:29] <basketball> how do i fix it
[16:29] <basketball> google chrome
[16:29] <basketball> not chromimum
[16:29] <OerHeks> basketball, on what site? facebook games?
[16:29] <optrusty> Oh...
[16:29] <OerHeks> known issue
[16:29] <basketball> pretty much all sites\
[16:30] <OerHeks> the other solution for firefox an perhaps chromium too, is pepperflash
[16:31] <OerHeks> it is all on the page !flash
[16:31] <reisio> "pepperflash" is what comes with chrome
[16:31] <optrusty> U might need OpenJDK for youtube
[16:31] <reisio> I doubt you need java for youtube
[16:31] <OerHeks> ah right https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[16:32] <basketball> OerHeks,  it also doesnt work here http://www.itma.vt.edu/tech/shockwave.htm
[16:32] <basketball> i dont see either animation
[16:33] <OerHeks> i see no movie, only flashanimation ( with chrome )
[16:33] <basketball> OerHeks,  i dont see the flash animation
[16:35] <OerHeks> mozilla too, bad luck, not working.
[16:35] <basketball> OerHeks,  how can i disable peperflash
[16:38] <OerHeks> use chromium if you want to try a different flash
[16:38] <OerHeks> or firefox, but that one does not give the movie either.
[16:38] <braveleg> Hi everybody! I've installed ubuntu 14.04+unity recently and now I want to switch to gnome. Is there any specific way to do it so system won't crush or it is enough to just install gnome via software manager?
[16:39] <reisio> !notunity
[16:39] <reisio> braveleg: gnome-shell
[16:39] <reisio> Unity is mostly GNOME already, you see
[16:39] <reisio> only the very top part has been replaced
[16:40] <OerHeks> braveleg, install it as you say, and you can change desktop when you logout.
[16:40] <braveleg> Ok, thanks a lot.
[16:40] <OerHeks> have fun :-)
[16:41] <basketball> OerHeks,  how do i have have terminhal auto cd back to home when closed
[16:41] <reisio> basketball: when closed?
[16:41] <basketball> when i close the terminal
[16:42] <reisio> when you close the terminal, you can't see where it is, it doesn't matter
[16:42] <basketball> so the next time i open the terminal it is at the home directory
[16:42] <reisio> basketball: it isn't at the home directory when you open it?
[16:42] <basketball> no it is on the last used
[16:42] <reisio> basketball: reallllyyyy
[16:42] <reisio> basketball: this is gnome-terminal?
[16:43] <bsdbandit> good  afternoon after patching my ubuntu 10 box i keep get the following when running ifconfig
[16:43] <bsdbandit> eth0_rename
[16:43] <HEROnymous> hey folks... just did an hwe update on my wife's machine which was installed with 12.04.4 to get it up to the -trusty packages.  it's hanging on boot with kdm running but the X server not, so it's looking like kdm is having trouble getting X up and running but not erroring out gracefully (rather just sitting there.)  anyone seen this before?
[16:43] <basketball> i installed the pantheon desktop enviroment
[16:43] <bsdbandit> how did i fix this
[16:44] <reisio> basketball: what's that? :p
[16:44] <OerHeks> basketball no idea
[16:44] <basketball> the enviroment elementary os uses
[16:44] <reisio> HEROnymous: grep XX /var/log/Xorg*
[16:44] <reisio> basketball: ah, that's just gnome still, IIRC
[16:45] <HEROnymous> reisio, nada
[16:45] <reisio> HEROnymous: you're trying to start KDE?
[16:45] <braveleg> Hm, how do you, guys, think - which default display manager should I pick: gdm or lightdm?
[16:45] <HEROnymous> well, this is prior to user login, but the system is setup to use kdm yes
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> HEROnymous  the one you like most and/or suits your needs
[16:46] <reisio> basketball: talk to #elementary
[16:46] <reisio> braveleg: lightdm is the default, IIRC, and perfectly fine
[16:46] <reisio> although if you're using Unity or GNOME, you will have most of what makes gdm heavier than lightdm isntalled anyways
[16:46] <reisio> installed*
[16:50] <braveleg> Ok, so lightdm it is, thanks.
[16:51] <braveleg> Hm, by the way, how can I address a message to specific person in chat room?
[16:51] <reisio> braveleg: specificperson: foo
[16:51] <reisio> braveleg: but
[16:51] <reisio> braveleg: you do it this way
[16:52] <reisio> braveleg: type 'r', type 'e', type 'i', then press TAB
[16:52] <reisio> if it converts to 'reisio:', you're done, type a msg
[16:52] <reisio> if it doesn't, and you want 'reisio', hit TAB again
[16:52] <reisio> voila, tab completion! Try it anywhere!
[16:53] <OerHeks> can do tricks in terminal too
[16:54] <zubir> OerHeks: have you tried pipes.sh?
[16:54] <braveleg> reisio, aha! thanks =)
[16:55] <reisio> braveleg: right, BUT
[16:55] <reisio> braveleg: go into prefs and change that comma to a colon :p
[16:55] <reisio> CONFORM!
[16:55] <braveleg> reisio: thanks again =)
[16:56] <reisio> :D
[16:56] <reisio> braveleg: also, just below the colon option
[16:56] <reisio> braveleg: sort by: last-spoke order
[16:56] <reisio> is very much what you want
[16:56] <reisio> if it's not set to that already
[16:57] <OerHeks> zubir, nope, never heard of it.
[16:57] <elll> hello, can I remove compiz on ubuntu 14.04 unity
[16:57] <reisio> elll: yup
[16:57] <reisio> elll: probably want to replace it with something else, though
[16:58] <elll> no just to remove it so it dont be heavy on my processors
[16:58] <reisio> you can remove it, but compiz is your window manager
[16:58] <reisio> you most likely want a window manager
[16:59] <elll> what other window manager can I use with unity
[16:59] <reisio> there might still be a third party package for 'unity-2d', I don't know how tedious it is to install
[16:59] <varunendra> elll, reisio, Unity depends on compiz, so you can't remove it while using Unity (well, you can, but that will break Unity)
[16:59] <reisio> elll: mmm, well with Unity proper, you can probably only use compiz
[16:59] <bornagaintexan> any recommendations on the best tutorial for beginners?
[16:59] <reisio> elll: but you could install gnome-shell and use mutter
[16:59] <reisio> or openbox, etc.
[16:59] <reisio> bornagaintexan: regarding?
[16:59] <basketball> reisio, how do you use ctcp
[17:00] <bornagaintexan> python
[17:00] <elll> gnome shell is the new gnome wright
[17:00] <cfhowlett> !python|bornagaintexan
[17:00] <elll> what about unity 2d
[17:00] <elll> what is that
[17:00] <bornagaintexan> yes im sorry, i thought i was typing in that channel
[17:00] <reisio> elll: it's something that looks a lot like unity, but is unaccelerated, so faster
[17:01] <reisio> but it's also not as well maintained, so it could be a bear to install
[17:01] <reisio> something else that can look A LOT like Unity is Xfce, with minimal reconfiguration
[17:01] <reisio> and it's much lighter
[17:01] <braveleg> reisio: Yep, it is set to last-spoke by default
[17:02] <basketball> reisio, how do you use ctcp
[17:02] <bornagaintexan> ok, i do have a question for this channel though
[17:02] <reisio> basketball: /ctcp basketball version
[17:02] <elll> how can i install that unity 2d reisio
[17:02] <reisio> bornagaintexan: prove it!
[17:02] <reisio> braveleg: also, in general, /help ctcp
[17:02] <reisio> braveleg: /help suspectedcommand
[17:02] <bornagaintexan> i'm ready to delete windows of this comp because I am loving ubuntu... is there any way i can transfer my important files from my windows platform to ubuntu?
[17:03] <daftykins> bornagaintexan: yes, copy and paste
[17:03] <bornagaintexan> sweet.
[17:03] <reisio> elll: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[17:03] <reisio> bornagaintexan: well, I'd use rsync, but copy & paste works, too
[17:03] <elll> 14.04
[17:03] <braveleg> reisio: Thanks.
[17:04] <bornagaintexan> i do not have a windows cd so once i delete it there is no going back for me.. is there any reason i should not do this?
[17:04] <zubir> possibly software issues
[17:04] <reisio> elll: not sure there are binaries for 14.04
[17:04] <reisio> elll: if you want something lighter, I'd try Xfce
[17:04] <cfhowlett> bornagaintexan if you're unsure, dual boot instead.
[17:05] <reisio> bornagaintexan: IME going back is not worth doing :)
[17:05] <reisio> bornagaintexan: is it a laptop?
[17:05] <elll> ok thank you :) have a nice day
[17:05] <bornagaintexan> yes its a laptop
[17:05] <reisio> bornagaintexan: does it have a rescue/recovery partition?
[17:05] <bornagaintexan> yes
[17:06] <reisio> bornagaintexan: well that's your install image for Windows
[17:06] <reisio> bornagaintexan: you can either leave that, or you can even back it up and delete it as well
[17:06] <braveleg> reisio: May I test ctcp message on you?
[17:06] <reisio> braveleg: why not
[17:06] <bornagaintexan> thank you for being so helpful
[17:06] <braveleg> CTCP reisio VERSION
[17:07] <reisio> braveleg: /ctcp reisio version
[17:07] <braveleg> reisio: aha, got it =)
[17:07] <reisio> :)
[17:07] <reisio> usually my version information is fake
[17:07] <reisio> but ATM it's not :p
[17:08] <braveleg> reisio: thanks a lot again.
[17:08] <reisio> bornagaintexan: pretty decent instructions for backing up the partition layout / mbr / partition/s over here http://mark.koli.ch/howto-whole-disk-backups-with-dd-gzip-and-p7zip
[17:09] <reisio> bornagaintexan: it's not really worth it to backup everything with dd, if you have a recovery image, just back up that one 3-4 GB probably partition, the partition layout, and the mbr
[17:13] <zubir> OerHeks: look it up on github, it's a shell script that does a nice "pipes" animation in terminal
[17:13] <zubir> using the pipe characters
[17:14] <zubir> Oerheks: http://github.com/livibetter/pipes.sh
[17:15] <apb1963> TJ-: I've been reading up on debfoster here... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24403  I'm not confident I can use it correctly and am afraid I'll end up screwing it up.
[17:15] <addy> varunendra: Hi Varun, I hope you would be a little free to help me out with my problem of missing network icons.
[17:16] <TJ-> apb1963: I tested it here, it was perfect. I first built its database with "sudo debfoster --mark-only" and then simply held down the "Y" key to accept all the packages until it terminated:)
[17:16] <TJ-> apb1963: Then I just did "sudo debfoster --show-keepers"
[17:17] <varunendra> addy, I posted on your thread, so it is in my search results now. Please post the current status as asked there.
[17:18] <HEROnymous> so the issue with X not starting is that it couldn't find any display drivers.  trying to jockey-text -e the nvidia driver now.
[17:20] <apb1963> TJ-: I ran debfoster -q ... that forces a Y to build the database...  first problem is that the post talks about keeping "ubuntu-base" and it shows a list of 4 packages.... I have over 283... and ubuntu-base is not in it.
[17:22] <TJ-> apb1963: I didn't spot that '-q' answered Y! I just saw the "quiet"
[17:23] <apb1963> TJ-: As is typical, the man page is less than clear on its usage.... it's why I read the post.... which was kind of overwhelming... but more informative.  man page doesn't say enough.. the post says too much.
[17:23] <TJ-> apb1963: I did "debfoster --help" but it only says "Silently build keeper file"
[17:24] <apb1963> TJ-: well, when you know what it means, it's clear  :)
[17:25] <varunendra> addy, time to leave now, I'll check your reply on the thread in the morning .. <yaawwn>
[17:25] <aboudreault> emm, if I have LVM Logical Volume --> luks encrypted -> ext4......... Can I do a live resize with that? (enlarging)
[17:26] <Guest94812> test
[17:26] <TJ-> apb1963: for me I see "debfoster --show-k | grep '^  ' | tr -d "\n" | wc -w" => 186
[17:26] <apb1963> TJ-: I do have a kdebase-runtime-dbg and a kdebase-workspace-dbg but (other than libreoffice-base)... there are no other base packages.  So I'm concerned.
[17:27] <TJ-> apb1963: so mine is showing 186 packages
[17:27] <TJ-> apb1963: Sounds *about* correct I'd say
[17:27] <apb1963> I just opened up /var/lib/debfoster/keepers and counted :)
[17:29] <TJ-> apb1963: I reran "sudo debfoster --quiet --mark-only" and the result is still 186 packages, which suggests there's something amiss on your source installation
[17:29] <apb1963> TJ-: why?
[17:30] <TJ-> apb1963: Well unless you only did the bare bones install... I assumed it was run on a well-used system
[17:30] <apb1963> TJ-: I have 283 packages according to debfoster
[17:32] <apb1963> TJ-: do you have ubuntu-base in there?
[17:32] <TJ-> apb1963: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7820730/
[17:33] <TJ-> apb1963: Sorry! I misread your 283 packages as 2 !!
[17:33] <TJ-> apb1963: 283 sounds about correct :)
[17:34] <apb1963> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7820739/
[17:35] <TJ-> apb1963: That looks good
[17:39] <Aki-Thinkpad> Any Ubuntu users programming " pair programming "?
[17:40] <apb1963> TJ-: yeah, I think I'm getting a better handle.  So, basically I'd do cat /var/lib/debfoster/keepers | xargs apt-get  install ?
[17:41] <noiano> hello
[17:42] <Guest76949> I have a problem getting rid of / cleaning up after a partial installation of wine. I am running BleachBit (root).  It tells me that dpkg comes back with a code 1 during deep scan. It seems to tell me it has deleted wine1.6, but there is still a problem with dependancies with regards to wine or wine1.6.  While it is wine that is messing things up, I am asking how to repair the broken dependancies
[17:42] <Frantic> Hey guys, I've installed Ubuntu on a new desktop Dell T5610 machine, Intel c602 chipset, only to find out that the sound works at very poor quality. When I put my headphones in the jack at the back, it's absolutely terrible quality, when I plug them in the jack on the front of the case, it's better, but still bad
[17:43] <Frantic> Any idea how I might debug something like this?
[17:43] <noiano> I have an annoying problem: whenever I close the lid or the powersave mode turns the my laptop's screen off I cannot turn it back ok by pressing a key or moving the mouse ... any idea?!
[17:44] <Frantic> What's even sarcastic, is that while I googled Dell T5610 sound issue, I actually found the Ubuntu certified page for that model on ubuntu.com :|
[17:44] <mojtaba> Hi, I am going to try another shell environment. Do you know which one is better or what are the options? (csh? tcsh? fish? ...)
[17:44] <Frantic> Any ideas anyone?
[17:45] <TJ-> apb1963: looks like it, yes
[17:47] <TJ-> mojach: There is no "better"
[17:47] <TJ-> mojtaba:  There is no "better"
[17:48] <mojtaba> TJ-: I am going to choose one for learning, but I have no idea which one is more popular.
[17:48] <TJ-> mojtaba: what about the one that is installed and used by default on Ubuntu?
[17:48] <OerHeks> Frantic, i use Clementine, with build-in equaliser makes a huge difference
[17:48] <meganerd> mojtaba: bash is probably most popular, csh and zsh each have their followings
[17:49] <Frantic> OerHeks: I'll google it, dunno what Clementine is
[17:49] <meganerd> mojtaba: bash is also installed on just about every Linux machine you will find
[17:49] <OerHeks> !info clementine
[17:49] <Frantic> OerHeks: ergh, that's a music player
[17:49] <meganerd> Frantic: it is an awesome music app, I am using it right now :)
[17:49] <Frantic> Wth
[17:49] <Frantic> my sound card driver is screwed, not the music player
[17:50] <Frantic> So if I had usable sound on the machine, I could use Clementine to listen to music on it, got it, but, how do I get usable sound on the machine?
[17:54] <apb1963> TJ-: what kind of still bugs me is I'm pretty sure I didn't install "gnome-common"... which makes me wonder what else is in that list that I don't need (or want).
[17:55] <OerHeks> Frantic, bad sound at the back, maybe it is just line out. maybe switchable. poor sound front, i keep it up equaliser.
[17:55] <TJ-> apb1963: Does "apt-cache rdepends gnome-common" help?
[17:56] <Frantic> OerHeks: bad sound at the front as well, just better than the back
[17:57] <apb1963> TJ-: yeah but see... that means we're back to dependencies that were installed... not top-level packages.
[17:58] <TJ-> apb1963: Well, did you at one time install some other package that you subsequently removed, but which wouldn't cause removal of gnome-common? Because that would leave gnome-common at the top of a 'tree'
[17:59] <apb1963> TJ-: wouldn't cause removal?  why wouldn't it?  Unless it wasn't packaged properly.
[18:01] <TJ-> apb1963: If package A depends on package B, then "install A" also does "install B", but "remove A" doesn't cause "remove B"... an "autoremove" will do however
[18:02] <Octavian95> hi all can someone please tell me how to uninstall Wiconnect and ap-hotspot from ubuntu 12.04?
[18:02] <apb1963> TJ-: so that implies if I do an autoremove right now.... it would clean it out, yes?
[18:03] <TJ-> apb1963: possibly, unless it is flagged with a Priority or Essential
[18:03] <OerHeks> Octavian95, how did you install those 2 ?
[18:04] <Octavian95> for wiconnect i got some .deb file and for ap-hotspot i followed a tutorial which involves terminal commands
[18:05] <MonkeyDust>  Octavian95 "some.deb file" doesnt sound too reliable
[18:05] <OerHeks> wiconnect should be removable in softwarecenter, the second one needs probably something else
[18:06] <user39202> How to solve problems with unity interface?  >>  http://www.img42.com/yqCBL+
[18:06] <Octavian95> wiconnect is not in software center i searched for it
[18:06] <apb1963> TJ-: I don't know... how can I check that?
[18:06] <MonkeyDust> user39202  avoid such funny links and simply ask your questions here
[18:07] <Octavian95> this is where i got wiconnect: https://launchpad.net/wiconnect
[18:07] <OerHeks> Octavian95, search history in softwarecenter
[18:08] <TJ-> apb1963: "apt-cache show <package>" and look for the Priority and Essential fields
[18:08] <Octavian95> i found ap-hotspot in the history but not wiconnect
[18:09] <OerHeks> Octavian95, nice > "still built using dpkg, so not 100% ubuntu software center compliant"
[18:09] <Octavian95> what?
[18:09] <OerHeks> maybe you can use dpkg to remove.
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> !find wiconnect
[18:10] <OerHeks> maybe damage is done.
[18:10] <apb1963> Package: gnome-common
[18:10] <apb1963> Priority: optional
[18:11] <apb1963> gnome-common is an extension to autoconf, automake and libtool for the GNOME
[18:11] <apb1963>  environment and GNOME using applications.
[18:11] <laspahr> okay, this is a bit off topic.. but I'm needing a new router, as mine right now is giving me speeds <1MB/s
[18:11] <laspahr> suggestions..? I have the Belkin N300 I believe
[18:12] <Octavian95> OerHeks, what is dpkg? and how do i use it to remove these 2 programs?
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> laspahr  try #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:12] <OerHeks> Octavian95, for the second package i cannor tell
[18:12] <OerHeks> cannot *
[18:12] <OerHeks> Octavian95, for the first one > dpkg -r <package>.deb
[18:13] <apb1963> TJ-: That might possibly explain it... since I've been building various packages... what's odd is that it should pull in gnome when in fact i'm using kde...  yes?
[18:14] <TJ-> apb1963: I was going to ask you that, since one of the reverse dependencies is "gnome-core-devel"
[18:14] <Jeffrey_f> laspahr: Amazon or ebay - DD-WRT Routers, cuz they are powered by Linux.   Never had an issue.
[18:14] <hikaruBG> hi guys
[18:14] <OerHeks> i am wrong, without .deb
[18:14] <TJ-> apb1963: gnome applications will pull in the gnome/gtk dependencies too
[18:14] <hikaruBG> has anyone playes with NFC Card Reader ACS122U ?
[18:14] <laspahr> Jeffrey_f: DD-WRT?
[18:14] <hikaruBG> has anyone played with NFC Card Reader ACS122U ?
[18:14] <laspahr> why that in particular?
[18:14] <hikaruBG> I have problems with pne, and will appreciate any help
[18:15] <apb1963> TJ-: but I never explicitly install gnome apps... or are you saying gtk is gnome based?  I guess it is, isn't it.
[18:16] <hikaruBG> when I plugged the card reader to the USB Port it had a red indicator lit
[18:16] <hikaruBG> then I have installed the drivers
[18:16] <Guest42743> where apt-get installs installed? I want to choose it as my standard way to open a certain type of file...
[18:16] <hikaruBG> and the red LED Indication is no more
[18:16] <hikaruBG> anyone?
[18:18] <apb1963> TJ-:  I think i'm going to stop trying to understand all 283 packages, remove most of the kernels from the list (working from a copy for the chroot), a handful of other obvious things (like xfce-desktop and similar) and then pull the trigger.
[18:18] <apb1963> otherwise i'll be at this for the next year
[18:19] <Frantic> I've installed Ubuntu on a new desktop Dell T5610 machine, Intel c602 chipset, only to find out that the sound works at very poor quality. When I put my headphones in the jack at the back, it's absolutely terrible quality, when I plug them in the jack on the front of the case, it's slightly better, but still quite bad, any idea how I might debug this?
[18:21] <user39202> Guest42743:   Packages are stored in /var/cache/apt/archives.    Most packages install somewhere in /usr
[18:22] <daftykins> Frantic: have you identified the codec in use and googles for issues regarding them specifically?
[18:22] <daftykins> Frantic: googling, i see there are at least two possible devices for that model
[18:23] <Frantic> daftykins: what do you mean by codec?
[18:23] <daftykins> Frantic: audio chip
[18:23] <Frantic> I've tried to see what driver the card was using, and it was intel HDA audio
[18:24] <Frantic> (from lspci)
[18:24] <Frantic> daftykins: Is that what you mean?
[18:24] <daftykins> Frantic: no, the specific device
[18:25] <Frantic> oh, I haven't written it down, and I'm not near the machine now
[18:25] <Guest42743> How do I reach the /usr/ folder from a gui?
[18:25] <alexbligh1> is there a metapackage constituting everything that would be installed in a base trusty server install? I have an install which when peculiar and is missing lots of packages. I don't particularly want to redo.
[18:26] <Frantic> daftykins: but once I do, what should I do? what would I be looking for?
[18:27] <apb1963> TJ-: thank you for all the help.  I'm going to deal with life for a while and then come back to this later.  Have a look at "blueprint" and "aptik" and see if you think those might be viable options.
[18:27] <daftykins> Frantic: oh right... well armed with knowing the hardware you can search online more appropriately.
[18:27] <eeee> how can i remove applications from the volume menu ?
[18:27] <Guest42743> How do I choose another nickname in xchat?
[18:27] <eeee> Guest42743: /nick <nickname>
[18:27] <daftykins> and pick a nickname which isn't registered
[18:28] <daftykins> for further questions, ask in #freenode as this is not IRC support
[18:29] <Frantic> daftykins: I've tried searching for audio issues, audio issues t5610, audio issues intel c602, but found nothing :(
[18:30] <Frantic> anyway, I'll try again with the audio chipset
[18:30] <Emrick_cc> hiyas!! may i please use some help??
[18:30] <Frantic> thanks :)
[18:30] <apb1963> TJ-: https://github.com/devstructure/blueprint
[18:31] <daftykins> Frantic: yes, because one is a general laptop model # and one is a chipset - not hugely relevant. anyway, see how you get on.
[18:31] <Guest76949> I'm back.  Any idea as to how to clean out the partial wine / wine1.6 installation that is messing the rest up?
[18:35] <MonkeyDust> Guest76949  what have you tried so far and what went wrong?
[18:37] <Guest76949> MonkeyDust: I had tried to install wine.  It hung.  I have tried through synaptic to get rid of wine and wine1.6 - to no avail. I used sudo dpkg --configure -a ... no better.  I am trying bleachbit to get rid of it.
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> Guest76949  try     sudo apt-get purge wine
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> Guest76949  or even     sudo apt-get purge wine*
[18:38] <Guest76949> MonkeyDust: Broken something, dependency problems.  With bleachbit (root) or not root, I get a message about /use.bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[18:38] <Guest76949> I think I have tried that, too, but I'm willing to try again
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> Guest76949  try     sudo apt-get autoremove
[18:39] <Guest76949> MonkeyDust: I can not install things, but I can't remove things, even as sudo
[18:40] <Guest76949> I'm waiting for my terminal to try the three things you just suggested
[18:41] <bigbrovar> Hi guys.. am a sysadmin working for a university where ubuntu is deployed on all our staff and student machines. we are currently on Ubuntu 10.04 on all administrative desktops and computer labs.. but we are looking to upgrade to ubuntu 14.04 (with unity which is great btw) however we need to adjust some of the user settings for unity and make this adjustments applicable for all users. Any idea how best to achieve this?
[18:42] <MonkeyDust> bigbrovar  in short, a deployment on all workstations?
[18:43] <bigbrovar> MonkeyDust, exactly..
[18:44] <bigbrovar> MonkeyDust, we already use FOG for mass deployment which works good.. Home directories are hosted on NFS and authentication is done via ldap (works like a charm)
[18:44] <Guest76949> MonkeyDust: wine not installed, so not removed. 3 not fully installed or removed.   Error processing package wine1.6-amd64/ wine1.6-i386 depends on wine1.6any
[18:45] <laspahr> hi, I'm back again.. I'm looking at the Linksys EA6100 but it says it's only compatible with Windows and Mac, nothing about Linux?
[18:45] <daftykins> bigbrovar: ouch, you've been running EOL for that long?
[18:46] <Guest76949> MonkeyDust: And all that from purge wine.  I'm waiting for the verbose from purge wine*
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> Guest76949  then focus on "wine1.6" in bleechbit... tip: ubuntu-tweak has a nice janito, too (not in the repos, get it here http://ubuntu-tweak.com/ )
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> janitor*
[18:47] <bigbrovar> daftykins, when u have an enterprise setup that works.. upgrade is always something u don't do in a wimp.
[18:48] <Guest76949> MonkeyDust: Also, clamtk tells me that I have 30+ threats, but I am never able to delete or quarantine the threats
[18:48] <daftykins> bigbrovar: funding then :)
[18:50] <Guest76949> MonkeyDust: In bleachbit, I get a message each time "E: Sub-process /use/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" and Delete 856.1 kb /var/cache/apt/archives/wine1.6 ..."
[18:50] <bigbrovar> daftykins, yes there is the funding issue.. we have to upgrade the ram of all systems from 1gb to at least 4gb
[18:51] <Octavian95> how do i uninstall ap-hotspot from ubuntu 12.04? i got it from here: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/06/how-to-set-up-wireless-hotspot-access.html
[18:51] <laspahr> do you think that the router would work with linux (or at least Ubuntu?)
[18:52] <Guest76949> laspahr: Ubuntu is a "flavor" of linux
[18:52] <zubir> Octavian95: try doing "dpkg --get-selections | grep hotspot"
[18:52] <daftykins> Octavian95: sudo apt-get remove --purge aphotspot
[18:53] <zubir> or that ^^
[18:53] <daftykins> Octavian95: in future please note that we do not support PPAs
[18:53] <laspahr> Guest76949: No duh... but would it work?
[18:53] <zubir> if that's the package name
[18:53] <Octavian95> what does PPA mean?
[18:53] <daftykins> laspahr: networking works on standards, of course it'll work
[18:53] <daftykins> !ppa | Octavian95
[18:54] <daftykins> ^so basically i just did you a favour by helping with something unsupported. be careful of following guides found online
[18:54] <Guest76949> laspahr: Don't mean to be nit picky, but you seemed to say linux or ubuntu, as if they weren't basically the same thing.
[18:54] <jere> hello
[18:54] <jere> what does `cd ~/` mean?
[18:54] <jere> does this mean go to HOME?
[18:55] <zubir> jere: yes, your home directory
[18:55] <cemotyz09> change to home directory
[18:55] <rypervenche> jere: Just typing "cd" by itself will do the same
[18:56] <Octavian95> daftykins: thanks for the command, it worked
[18:57] <Jeffrey_f> cd $home will put you into your home folder
[18:58] <Guest76949> MonkeyDust: I'm trying to install the tweak thing you mentioned, but it takes ages to do... why, I don't know.  But why couldn't I mess around with synaptic and why wouldn't that fix the problem?
[18:59] <Guest76949> MonkeyDust: Btw, the installation of the tweak thing failed because wine1.6 is in a status "half-installed"
[18:59] <Octavian95> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2235172 anyone?
[19:00] <boze> I'm looking at tilda on launchpad.net and wondering why unicorn gets the point releases but trusty doesn't?
[19:00] <Dave77> how do I install latest mplayer from testing repo?
[19:01] <backjauer> do you use gstreamer ugly? or is this illegal?
[19:02] <ikonia> unicorn isn't released....so it will change
[19:02] <ikonia> trust is 5 years long term - so sticks at a version
[19:03] <boze> ikonia: so if I want to update tilda I have to clone it?
[19:03] <Guest76949> MonkeyDust: As it is, I tried to reinstall wine through Synaptic.  It failed because of wine1.6
[19:03] <ikonia> boze: clone it ?
[19:04] <Guest76949> MonkeyDust: What does this mean ... "E: Internal Error, No file name for wine1.6-amd64:amd64"
[19:05] <boze> ikonia: from the git repo if its open source. Was just wondering if there is a way to update the package/software when its released but trusty hasn't adopted it yet
[19:05] <ikonia> boze: you'd etiher have to have a valid bug that warrented a package update, or build your own package
[19:06] <acovrig> When making a .desktop file, can I specify Path (working directory) to be ~/ (or /home/$USER)?
[19:06] <Besogon> hi every one! The network manager icon is not shown.. Ubuntu 14.04 does.. I don't know what to do now. starting nm-applet is not helping
[19:06] <Besogon> but I still have internet
[19:07] <newb901> I just installed the "New Hardware support" for 12.04 and now I have no connection eth0 interface is gone, any advice?
[19:07] <ikonia> newb901: what "new hardware support" ?
[19:07] <Guest76949> Besogon: When you get the answer, please share with me
[19:07] <newb901> that is what my update manager told me
[19:07] <user39202> Guest76949:  Maybe reinstall wine1.6 using the force options,  then uninstall and purge it.
[19:08] <rww> ikonia: hardware enablement stack, i assume
[19:08] <ikonia> newb901: then ask him what he really installed
[19:08] <newb901> Yes the HWE
[19:08] <ikonia> rww: I'm not sure
[19:08] <Guest76949> user39202: can you give me the exact command to do the force?
[19:08] <Besogon> Guest76949: ok
[19:08] <ikonia> newb901: just boot back into the old kernel then
[19:08] <ikonia> newb901: select it from the grub menu
[19:08] <Guest76949> Besogon: thx
[19:09] <newb901> Ok, i'll give that a try
[19:10] <zopsi> Ok let's give this another go. Does anyone know how to fix this issue? http://i.imgur.com/1n4cTQP.gif
[19:12] <newb901> ikonia: I'm back up now but does that mean I have to always use the previous kernel from now on?
[19:12] <ikonia> newb901: it means your card is not seen in your newer kernel, that could be for many reasons
[19:12] <ikonia> newb901: is there a reason you installed a newer kernel ?
[19:13] <newb901> ikonia: nope just to stay updated
[19:13] <Sajaki> debian aptitude lists latest xdebug as 2.2.3-2build1 but on xdebug site it reads 2.2.5
[19:13] <newb901> ikonia: so in order to use the newer kernel I would need a new supported network card then, right?
[19:14] <Sajaki> is aptitude not uptodate ?
[19:14] <ikonia> newb901: unless you have a need for it, why do it ?
[19:14] <ikonia> newb901: ok, so just remove the hwe
[19:15] <acovrig> Because this app creates files in the cwd, so I'm wondering if a 'cheap' workaround could be to mkdir /usr/share/<app>/prefs; chmod 777 ... then set the Path to /usr/share/<app>/prefs?
[19:15] <newb901> ikonia: I did it thinking it was prep from 14.04 but now I'm thinking my card might not be supported for that
[19:15] <newb901> ikonia: in any case, how do i remove hew?
[19:17] <ikonia> newb901: just remove the packages
[19:17] <ikonia> newb901: not sure why it's considered prep to you, the point is LTS -> LTS upgrade
[19:18] <rww> Sajaki: #debian for Debian issues, thanks
[19:18] <newb901> ikonia: would you know the name of the package by any chance?
[19:18] <backjauer> How do I turn on sound on the 2nd screen in linux when using hdmi?
[19:19] <ikonia> newb901: its the kernel
[19:19] <newb901> ikonia: ah! ok, last thing would you recommend I remove that first before upgrading to 14.04?
[19:19] <ikonia> newb901: you should know the name of the meta package, you installed it
[19:19] <ikonia> newb901: yes
[19:19] <Sajaki> um sorry it’s Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[19:20] <ikonia> newb901: you cant upgrade to 14.04 yet though
[19:20] <ikonia> newb901: you need to wait for 14.04.1
[19:20] <Sajaki> so in my ubuntu vagrant box aptitude lists latest xdebug as 2.2.3-2build1 but on xdebug site it reads 2.2.5
[19:20] <newb901> ikonia: True I did install but I used the GUI update manager which just a button with 'install' on it so unaware of the package
[19:20] <Dave77> has anybody got a user account for avidemux?
[19:20] <ikonia> !info xdebug
[19:20] <Dave77> (forum)
[19:21] <ikonia> Sajaki: you sure it's ubuntu
[19:21] <r0hith_m> Hi guys which was the key to press during boot to show the options for grub
[19:21] <ikonia> Dave77: nothing to do with this channel.
[19:21] <newb901> ikonia: ok, i'll wait for .1 and figure out what package I need to remove...thanks!
[19:21] <rww> !info php5-xdebug
[19:21] <ikonia> russ_: nice
[19:21] <ikonia> oops
[19:21] <ikonia> rww:
[19:21] <rww> that's the only xdbuggy thing i can find
[19:21] <Dave77> so how do I get somebody to a fix a problem in there software?
[19:21] <ikonia> Dave77: talk to them,
[19:22] <Dave77> it won't let me register for their forum..
[19:22] <Dave77> I want to use linux as desktop but its proving difficult
[19:22] <ikonia> Dave77: nothing to do with this channel
[19:22] <Dave77> so thats why people don't use linux as desktop then..
[19:22] <r0hith_m> right now my grub doesnt let me choose anythign it directly boots into latest kernel.. i want to choose a previous kernel
[19:23] <Dave77> software doesn't work properly
[19:23] <ikonia> Dave77: ok
[19:23] <backjauer> How do I turn on sound on the 2nd screen in linux when using hdmi?
[19:23] <Dave77> is there any software other than avidemux that can cut .ts video files?
[19:24] <r0hith_m> Dave77,  may be convert to another format  ?
[19:24] <r0hith_m> I am not familier with that format
[19:24] <r0hith_m> let me check
[19:24] <ikonia> its raw dvd
[19:26] <r0hith_m> Dave77, basically this is the info i got that they are just MPEG2 files
[19:26] <r0hith_m> so you can rename them to .mpeg
[19:27] <SupaYoshii> Okay wth changed with the directory system of /easy-rsa on ubuntu 14.04
[19:27] <r0hith_m> and use with any other editor that supports mpeg
[19:27] <paullus> I'm using ubuntu 12.04 and I recently got a copy of 14.04 on a Linux magazine DVD.  Is it possible to upgrade my current version, or is it better to wipe everything and just install 14.04?
[19:27] <Hilikus> anyone using etckeeper here? i read it's supposed to set a cron job for daily commit but i don't see it. under which user is it supposed to be
[19:28] <daftykins> paullus: backup, then clean would be the least painful yep
[19:28] <paullus> cool, thanks man  ;)
[19:28] <r0hith_m> paullus, for upgradation you will need internet connection
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> paullus  you may want to backup /etc too, for program settings
[19:29] <daftykins> paullus: although 12.04.4 LTS is still good for a couple more years, so no huge reason to change if everything works for you
[19:30] <paullus> ok, thanks, I will bear that in mind
[19:30] <Guest8351> How do I force synaptic to uninstall wine and wine1.6?
[19:30] <zubir_> gay
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> Guest8351  what does this command say:    whereis wine
[19:33] <Guest8351> MonkeyDust: I typed the command, but it is slow the answer.  I'll share once I get feedback
[19:33] <bodhi_zazen> Guest8351, sudo apt-get purge wine* && rm -rf ~/.wine
[19:34] <bodhi_zazen> be warned, that command will remove everything including config files and anything you installed in wine
[19:34] <Guest8351> MonkeyDust: wine: /usr/bin/wine /usr/bin/X11/wine /usr/share/wine
[19:34] <Dave77> is there any help information for ubuntu in a single downloadable document? (not a wiki)
[19:34] <bazhang> !manual
[19:35] <asdfooblaasd> Hi. I downloaded the ubuntu 14 iso and want to install it to my SSD from USB. I'm currently under windows. Can I use a tool like the Univeral USB Installer to install ubuntu from usb?
[19:36] <asdfooblaasd> As far as I understood the universal usb installer will install ubuntu to this usb, not make it installable from the usb drive
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> Guest8351  try removing those folders
[19:37] <daftykins> asdfooblaasd: no, it will make a LiveUSB out of said drive
[19:37] <daftykins> asdfooblaasd: give it a go :)
[19:37] <Guest8351> do I put && between each directory?
[19:37] <zubir_>    
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[19:37] <Guest8351> MonkeyDust: do I put && between each directory?
[19:38] <MonkeyDust> Guest8351  if you're not sure, remove them one by one
[19:38] <MonkeyDust> Guest8351  the wine folders, not the part befor /wine
[19:39] <Guest8351> It iIt takes ages for each command
[19:40] <Aaraigathor> Hello, I am running Ubuntu 14.04 and accidentally deleted the file /etc/init/plymoth-upstart-bridge.conf
[19:40] <MonkeyDust> Guest8351  like so    sudo rm -r /usr/bin/wine/
[19:40] <ikonia> errr no
[19:40] <Aaraigathor> Can someone give me the contents or a download location?
[19:40] <Guest8351> MonkeyDust: Ok
[19:40] <ikonia> that should be removed via the package manager
[19:40] <ikonia> not using the rm command
[19:40] <MonkeyDust> Guest8351  hold it now
[19:42] <daftykins> Aaraigathor: if you use apt-file you can discover what package it was in and reinstall it - be warned it may take some time and bandwidth though
[19:43] <Aaraigathor> daftykins: How would I do that? Sorry, a bit of a rookie here. I figured I could just remake the file if I knew the contents, couldn't I?
[19:43] <Aaraigathor> I know it was /etc/init/plymouth-upstart-bridge.conf
[19:44] <r0hith_m> My wifi started to drop after few minutes .. Guess it is time to retire my poor Lenovo .. after 7 long years <3
[19:44] <daftykins> r0hith_m: i wouldn't
[19:44] <asdfooblaasd> daftykins: can I install ubuntu from a livecd?
[19:45] <daftykins> asdfooblaasd: yes, or liveUSB as made from the Universal USB Installer under Windows as you just mentioned
[19:45] <asdfooblaasd> thanks, I will try this!
[19:45] <daftykins> Aaraigathor: yes, if some kind soul would post you the file - or if you booted a live session it might be on there
[19:45] <Guest8351> MonkeyDust: Now that I've removed the directories, am I clear to remove wine and or wine1.6?
[19:46] <r0hith_m> daftykins, Speaker dead .. last time I broke the output audio line by accidentally droppoing laptop, then I was using bluetooth headset, 1 usb port broken other just works and third one is working fine
[19:46] <MonkeyDust> Guest8351  yes, try   sudo apt-get autoremove
[19:46] <r0hith_m> Only thing that kept this laptop productive was my SSD upgrade
[19:46] <Aaraigathor> Is there a kind soul on here who would post me the contents of /etc/init/plymouth-upstart-bridge.conf   ? Please
[19:46] <daftykins> r0hith_m: ah, a war horse!
[19:47] <Guest8351> MonkeyDust: thanks.  If that doesn't work (I hope it does), will synaptic be my next best choice?
[19:47] <MonkeyDust> Guest8351  yes, residual config, i guess it's called
[19:48] <Guest8351> MonkeyDust: residual config?
[19:49] <daftykins> Aaraigathor: ah hang on i do have access to it, one moment
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> Guest8351  you'll see, in synaptic
[19:49] <r0hith_m> One thing I  could love about this laptop is the keyboard .. it works sweet even now ... 7 years of coding and still it doesnt feel old :) I tried keyboard in my sisters laptop which is a new toshibha and it was like hell compared to my keyboard
[19:49] <Aaraigathor> daftykins: Thank you!
[19:50] <Guest8351> MonkeyDust: Haven't seen it yet and I've used synaptic.  Of course, I'm a n00b / novice ... with stupid questions
[19:51] <Bashing-om> Guest8351: Be aware, this is ubuntu-support; there are no stupid questions.
[19:51] <Guest8351> MonkeyDust: autoremove came back with dpkg and an error code of 1
[19:52] <Aaraigathor> daftykins: I could only find old versions of the file contents through google searching, and I want to be sure the one I enter in is going to be the current
[19:52] <Guest8351> Bashing-om: I feel stupid ... I should understand things better ... so ... well, thx for understanding
[19:52] <daftykins> Aaraigathor: if you open a terminal then run "sudo -i", enter your password then run "curl http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=U7BrUSf6 > /etc/init/plymouth-upstart-bridge.conf" it will auto download my paste and save it down as that file
[19:52] <daftykins> Aaraigathor: normal view of the paste is available @ http://pastebin.com/U7BrUSf6
[19:53] <Bashing-om> Guest8351: Time and effort will fix that condition.
[19:53] <MonkeyDust> Guest8351  i'm out of ideas, i'm sure someone else has other tips for you
[19:54] <Guest8351> Bashing-om: MonkeyDust: I found in status, but nothing checked abd bi wube
[19:54] <Guest8351> and no wine
[19:54] <Aaraigathor> daftykins : Thank you so much! I just did 'gksudo leafpad' copy and pasted the file contents and saved as /etc/init/plymouth-upstart-bridge.conf       That should work, right?
[19:55] <enecon> how can I see what graphics card is my pc using ? ( I no nothing about terminals )
[19:55] <Bashing-om> Guest8351: : MonkeyDust I am just arriving to the party, what is the issue ? .
[19:55] <daftykins> Aaraigathor: sure, my suggestion is just more elegant as it grabs the post and pops it into the file straight away ;)
[19:55] <enecon> know *
[19:56] <astroduck> Hi! Months ago I changed login background setting in Ubuntu Tweak to "Same as Desktop Background". I was using 13.04 back then. Later I upgraded to 13.10 but can't seem to find those settings in ubuntu tweaks anymore. I tried this thread (http://askubuntu.com/questions/313526/changing-login-screen-wallpaper) but the wallpaper sets to the one I specified in gsettings but then changes to the desktop background
[19:56] <astroduck> in seconds.
[19:56] <Bashing-om> enecon: -> lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga , more info: sudo lshw -C display <- .
[19:56] <Guest8351> Bashing-om: I'm having issues with wine and wine1.6 and a partial installation of it
[19:56] <Aaraigathor> daftykins: Never knew you could do that before, thanks! Learn something new all the time. Really appreciate the help
[19:57]  * daftykins tips his hat
[19:57] <Aaraigathor> Anyone know a good program for ubuntu 14.04 to monitor hardware, mainly temperatures?
[19:58] <enecon> Bashing-om it shows about subsystem , flag , memory , but nothing about my card
[19:58] <Guest8351> Bashing-om: Held broken packages. no way so far to fix them
[19:59] <Guest8351> Bashing-om: Synaptic not successful so far
[19:59] <trijntje> Aaraigathor: xsensors
[19:59] <enecon> Bashing-om , product: Park [Mobility Radeon HD 5430/5450/5470]
[19:59] <enecon>  is that it ?
[19:59] <MonkeyDust> Aaraigathor  install lm-sensors, then use this line:   watch -n 1 -d sensors
[20:00] <Aaraigathor> Thanks everyone! <3
[20:00] <Bashing-om> Guest8351: Wine is not my forte, but, OK ..How did you install wine 1.6 ? From the repository OR PPA ?
[20:00] <Guest8351> Bashing-om: Ubuntu Software Center
[20:01] <Guest8351> What is a held broken package?  And how do I break the strangle hold on the package or how to fix the package?
[20:01] <Bashing-om> enecon: Yep; ATI card .. that second commnad will tell ya what driver is loaded in the "config" line.
[20:02] <enecon> Bashing-om configuration: driver=fglrx_pci latency=0 | what does this mean ?
[20:02] <Bashing-om> Guest8351: , Good ! .. OK, what is the problem when issueing -> sudo apt-get remove wine <- ??
[20:02] <Guest8351> Bashing-om: Are you good at getting rid of things?
[20:03] <enecon> Bashing-om I mean does this seem ok ?
[20:03] <Ben64> Guest8351: "aptitude search ~ahold" to list held packages
[20:03] <backjauer> Is crossside scripting as threat on linux?
[20:03] <Bashing-om> enecon: You are tunning a proprietary driver for the card.
[20:04] <Bashing-om> enecon:  tunning/running* .. yeahm should be good !
[20:04] <enecon> Bashing-om ok ty
[20:06] <Bashing-om> Guest8351: Up to a point .. My failure presently is the ability to read the source code  -- slowly working on that .
[20:07] <Bashing-om> enecon: Does that answer the question, or do you have a graphics problem to be discussed ?
[20:07] <Guest8351> Bashing-om: wine is not installed, so not removed. Suggests apt-get -f install.  Then goes on to talk of wine1.6 with unmet dependencies.  wine1.6 i386, wine1.6 amd64 and recommandations for winbind and winetricks
[20:07] <pr0t> Hi, something went wrong with my ubuntu uninstall after an upgrade now it won't boot, i get unknown filesystem and also my file systems is encrypted where the /boot is (i know dumb) but I need to fix this, what is the best way to do this?
[20:08] <Pinkamena_D> any plugin for nautilus exists to show the last ~5 locations or somethins in the sidebar
[20:08] <Pinkamena_D> like a recently used
[20:09] <enecon> Bashing-om well it seems to answered the question I made at least but I made this question cause there is a general problem. high temperatures  until automatic shutdown
[20:10] <alison85> rsync appears to be corrupting files on my phone. only happened since i updated to 14.04. anyone else having issues with rsync?
[20:10] <TJ-> pr0t: "/boot/" encrypted using LUKS?
[20:10] <pr0t> what is LUKS?
[20:11] <pr0t> it was encrypted by the ubuntu install when I said yes
[20:11] <Bashing-om> Guest8351: There are any number of reasons a package may be help .. let's take Ben64's direction and look: -> dpkg --get-selections | grep hold < -. and go from there.
[20:11] <TJ-> pr0t: Linux Unified Key Setup
[20:11] <pr0t> not sure what method ubuntu uses
[20:12] <TJ-> pr0t: If you did a regular install it puts "/boot/" in a separate file-system when the root file-system is encrypted.
[20:12] <TJ-> pr0t: So, when the PC boots what, precisely, do you see displayed?
[20:12] <enecon> Bashing-om this happens when playing video vlc or mozila(youtube) etc
[20:13] <pr0t> error: unknown filesystem entering rescue mode...
[20:13] <Guest8351> Bashing-om: Nothing in terms of verbose
[20:13] <TJ-> pr0t: OK, so you have a "grub rescue>" shell prompt?
[20:13] <pr0t> then it drops me down to the grub rescue
[20:13] <pr0t> i tried to recover with a rescue cd but because i have encryption it fails to fix it
[20:14] <Guest8351> aptitude isn't installed, apparently
[20:15] <Guest8351> Bashing-om: I don't get anything from the command you gave me.
[20:15] <TJ-> pr0t: do you have the "grub rescue>" prompt in front of you right now?
[20:15] <Talez> exit
[20:16] <Bashing-om> enecon: Graphic's driver, so long as you stay within "additional drovers" utility, can see what results in changing the driver ( open source might do a lot better ).
[20:16] <acovrig> Bashing-om, could you have meant 'grep -i hold'? or 'grep Hold'?
[20:16] <Guest8351> Bashing-om: We are talking about this command ... ? dpkg --get-selections | grep hold
[20:19] <pr0t> TJ: yes the prompt is in front of me
[20:19] <TJ-> pr0t: do "set" and tell me what "prefix=" shows
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> Guest8351  I wonder how you cannot remove anything... can you do a simple sudo apt-get update ?
[20:20] <pr0t> hd0,msdos1/grub
[20:20] <TJ-> pr0t: OK, let us assume that /boot/ is encrypted... *if* it is I'll show you how to manually unlock it and continue booting, OK?
[20:20] <pr0t> sounds great!
[20:20] <Guest8351> MonkeyDust: the update is happening, but ... not yet finished
[20:21] <Guest8351> Just finished
[20:21] <genii> BluesKaj: I'm not sure, didn't do an update today. Was having messages doing shutdowns/reboots yesterday though
[20:21] <Guest8351> MonkeyDust: the update just finished
[20:21] <genii> Wrong channel, sorry
[20:22] <Guest8351> MonkeyDust: autoremove continues to talk of the wine1.6 unmet dependencies
[20:22] <TJ-> pr0t: here are three commands to issue, one line each, at a time: "insmod luks"   then "insmod cryptodisk" then "insmod crypto"
[20:23] <Guido1> I need a boot disk with photorec and maybe supporting networking so that i can save the data on a drive from a different computer. Where can I find such a boot imige?
[20:23] <pr0t> k did each command and after the output was error: unknown filesystem for every command
[20:23] <TJ-> pr0t: Ouch, not good :(
[20:24] <TJ-> pr0t: OK, let's assume those modules are built-in and we don't need to insert them... and try the next command
[20:24] <laspahr> lol got a spam message from someone on Kik that I qualified for a free Google Glass
[20:24] <Guest8351> FINALLY seems to work -f autoremove
[20:24] <acovrig> lol, free $1500...
[20:24] <Bashing-om> Guest8351: No return is a good thing; OK, ya want Wine gone for good ? Not going to re-install it or Netflix ?
[20:24] <pr0t> whats the next command?
[20:24] <TJ-> pr0t: This command will unlock a LUKS dmcrypt-protected device: "cryptomount hd0,msdos1" ... if that device is encrypted you will be asked for the passphrase.
[20:25] <pr0t> k
[20:25] <pr0t> unknown command
[20:25] <laspahr> hmm.. comparing linksys smart wifi routers.. EA6900, EA6400, EA6350, EA6100
[20:25] <Guest8351> Bashing-om: I just did a normal autoremove and that didn't work.  But it suggested that I add -f and that seems to be working
[20:25] <TJ-> pr0t: OK, so those modules aren't built in
[20:26] <TJ-> pr0t: OK, let's assume /boot/ isn't encrypted
[20:26] <TJ-> pr0t: "set root=(hd0,msdos1)"
[20:27] <TJ-> pr0t: "insmod normal"
[20:27] <CharlesIC> hello friends
[20:27] <CharlesIC> my HD is failing so I ordered a replacement
[20:27] <xubuntu-boot> hi i am having some boot issues and could use some help
[20:27] <Bashing-om> Guest8351: : MonkeyDust ; Remeber, there are config files for Wine in the /home directory that the package manager will not remove.
[20:27] <CharlesIC> I was just wondering the easiest way with an ubuntu CD to copy /home and / over to the new one
[20:27] <pr0t> set command worked fine, but insmod normal gives unknown fs error again
[20:27] <Guest8351> Bashing-om: You mean in .wine?
[20:28] <CharlesIC> /dev/sda1 *         2048    1026047    512000  83 Linux
[20:28] <CharlesIC> /dev/sda2        1026048 1953523711 976248832  8e Linux LVM
[20:28] <TJ-> pr0t: OK, let us assume that partition #1 (msdos1) is not the correct partition and try some others
[20:28] <TJ-> pr0t: "set root=(hd0,msdos2)" then "insmod normal"
[20:29] <acovrig> CharlesIC, anything wrong with cp -vpR /home /mnt/new_home/ ?
[20:29] <TJ-> pr0t: If it works, after "insmod normal" you'll get the GRUB boot menu and can continue as normal. If that happens, remember which partition number you were using, and also let me know it has worked. Try other partition numbers:  msdos3, msdos4, msdos5, msdos6 if necessary
[20:30] <Bashing-om> Guest8351: Yeah, several -> ls -la $HOME/.wine , ls -la $HOME/.winetrickscache , ls -la $HOME/.local/share/applications/wine < - and more .
[20:30] <Guest8351> Bashing-om: In my home directory, I tried to do a cd .wine, but that directory no longer exists
[20:33] <Bashing-om> Guest8351: Let's see what does exist; pastebin this  -> sudo find / -name "wine*" <-.
[20:34] <Bashing-om> Guest8351: sorry forgot the newness factor. pastebin that output ( see the topic for instructions).
[20:35] <Guest8351> Bashing-om: It's a - before name?
[20:37] <pr0t> TJ: Does this information help at all paste.ubuntu.com/7821481 and paste.ubuntu.com and paste.ubuntu.com/7821495
[20:38] <Guest8351> Bashing-om: So far, I have only one verbose ... aka /usr/share/bash-completion/completions/wine
[20:39] <xMopxShell> is it normal for a bunch of packages to say 'No candidate ver: <package name>' when doing do-release-upgrade?
[20:40] <Guest8351> Bashing-om: Should I do a rm -rf on that directory?
[20:41] <Guest8351> Bashing-om: I haven't recovered the command line ... it's still looking for things
[20:42] <Bashing-om> Guest8351: patience, takes a long time to look at every file on the system ..
[20:42] <TJ-> pr0t: Well, according to that output /boot/ doesn't show up... but I notice there are 2 Promise RAID disks (sdb and add). My betting is you've accidentally installed the "/boot/" to them... and they aren't bootable devices
[20:43] <Guest8351> ok
[20:43] <TJ-> pr0t: correction, 2 Promise RAID disks (sdb and sdd)
[20:43] <Guest8351> brb
[20:44] <TJ-> pr0t: If you're got the PC running a Live ISO environment, we can fix the sda issue via a chroot
[20:44] <excelsiora> ubuntu
[20:46] <excelsiora> how do I copy a directory to an external drive? I know it's mounted. I'm trying cp -r /etc/source/dir blah where blah is my external drive. I have to sudo due to perms.
[20:46] <bootfail> hi all. i'm having some trouble and xubuntu fails to boot.
[20:46] <bootfail> mount: mounting /dev/mapper/xubuntu--vg-root on /root failed: invalid argument
[20:46] <TJ-> bootfail: Is the PC at a busybox shell prompt?
[20:46] <excelsiora> how do I find the correct string representation of the external drive's location where I want to copy the file?
[20:47] <excelsiora> I have browsed to it in Nautilus
[20:48] <laspahr> anyone use a Linksys router? I'm looking at getting one of the following: EA6900, EA6400, EA6350, or EA6100
[20:50] <Bashing-om> excelsiora: Do you want to "copy" via the file manager ( drag and drop) or from the CLI ?
[20:50] <excelsiora> CLI
[20:50] <excelsiora> lsusb?
[20:51] <pr0t> \
[20:52] <Bashing-om> excelsiora: The syntax is: sudo cp -r <source_path>/<file_name> <destination_path> .
[20:52] <Repox> Hey guys. I need some input on iptables? http://pastie.org/private/a7vmhjvv1sky1roy0gsg - I'm trying to lock out anyone else but the allowed IP's for port 3200. But even though I'm dropping everything else on the last line, everyone still can access it.
[20:52] <pr0t> TJ: sorry i was afk, no the boot i don't believe is installed on the raid disk
[20:52] <excelsiora> with the period?
[20:52] <TJ-> pr0t: Is the Live environment runing right now?
[20:53] <TJ-> pr0t: If not, if you start it, we can unlock that encrypted file-system so you check what is in there
[20:53] <pr0t> yes
[20:53] <excelsiora> So how do I find the correct representation of the lcoation? I tried copying in Nautilus but what I pasted didn't work
[20:53] <TJ-> pr0t: OK then: "sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda5 crypt_root"
[20:53] <excelsiora> now it's working, I deleted the file// from file///media...
[20:54] <Bashing-om> excelsiora: no, the perios wsas but sentence puntuation. to find the "destination_path" what is in the result of the -> mount <- command ?
[20:54] <excelsiora> and I think I did it!
[20:55] <excelsiora> I had to strip out the "%20" and replace with "\ "
[20:55] <excelsiora> now sure why nautilus does that...
[20:55] <excelsiora> anyone know?
[20:55] <Bashing-om> excelsiora: Right .. the '/' os a part of the 'path' .
[20:56] <Bashing-om> os/is
[20:56] <excelsiora> Yeah, I just backed up my wifi passwords. Word.
[20:57] <excelsiora> They were all in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections, so I just backed up NetworkManager just to be safe.
[20:58] <pr0t> TJ: one second I don't know the password to sudu
[20:58] <pr0t> sudo*
[20:58] <Bashing-om> excelsiora: Good deal - a backup is no good unless it is checked to make sure it is good - have you checked the contents ?
[20:58] <TJ-> pr0t: If you're using the Live ISO there shouldn't be one
[20:59] <TJ-> pr0t: If the username is "ubuntu" try the same for the password
[21:00] <djetty> hey
[21:00] <djetty> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24837517/libsdl2-package-not-installing-on-ubuntu
[21:00] <djetty> anyone know how to fix this?
[21:01] <pr0t> TJ: that worked
[21:01] <Guest8351> Bashing-om: Once I get all the directories, I just do a rm -rf on each?
[21:02] <skinux> Has ext-intl package been removed from repo?
[21:02] <excelsiora> Bashing-om: good idea
[21:02] <TJ-> pr0t: Yay! ok now do "sudo mkdir -p /mnt/target && sudo mount /dev/mapper/crypt_root /mnt/target"
[21:02] <Bashing-om> Guest8351: With discretion - yes. Would not want to remove any system files ! .
[21:03] <TJ-> pr0t: Then you can check if it has GRUB files in there with "ls -altr /mnt/target/boot/"
[21:03] <Aki-Thinkpad> my ubuntu no longer intigrates the menu bar into the global menu bar when the window is maiximized
[21:03] <Aki-Thinkpad> whats the command to fix this?
[21:04] <Guest8351> Bashing-om: Ok, but where are the system files?  I suppose I should pass the directories by you or someone knowing before I do the rm -rf then ...
[21:04] <pr0t> TJ: I am going to try the automate repair first now that the filesystem is uncrypted
[21:04] <Bashing-om> excelsiora: be in a bad situation to rely on the backup, and it is not good, and/or the restoral method fails, huh ?
[21:04] <skinux> I'm trying to install Zend Framework and Composer is complaining that 'ext-intl' is missing from the system.
[21:04] <TJ-> pr0t: NOOOOooooo! check it first
[21:05] <TJ-> pr0t: We need to know the state of things *before* anything changes
[21:05] <excelsiora> Bashing-om:  I was a little worried when it wasn't where I expected it to be, but it's there!
[21:05] <Bashing-om> Guest8351: That is where 'pastebinit' comes into the picture here .
[21:05] <pr0t> okay
[21:05] <pr0t> one sec
[21:05] <Multbrelch> Hi all ---- FUCK! I COULD PUKE BLOOD ONTO THE SCREEN! I just don't get it! --- Q: I just have a partition (/sd4/) that is mounted via fstab (/dev/sda4	/media/partition	ext4	defaults		0       0) during boot ... that works well. So far so good. Then I added an user via "sudo useradd -d /media/partition/userA -m userA" and re-booted. Now: I cannot login into userA because (this is what I guess) the ******* partition is not mounted, it only mo
[21:05] <Multbrelch> unts when I login into my own (admin) account. How can I tell the ******* system that it shall mount the partition before this screen of login with all users appears such that I can login into userA. - BTW: the other users are on regular /home/... . Any help is greatly appreciated.
[21:05] <boxmein> well there's hastebin, bpaste, and a billion other paste services
[21:05] <Guest8351> Bashing-om: I have so far /usr/share..., /usr/lib. and /usr/bin so far
[21:05] <boxmein> paste.pound-python
[21:05] <boxmein> ubuntu paste even
[21:06] <boxmein> and pastebin has ads now, iirc
[21:06] <kostkon> !language | Multbrelch
[21:06] <Multbrelch> kostkon, ubottu, sorry guys
[21:06] <Multbrelch> I will improve
[21:07] <enecon> Bashing-om could jockey-gtk be what I need ?
[21:08] <Bashing-om> Guest8351: What you have is files in those 'system' directories .. IF those files are Wine files, you may remove the files .
[21:08] <Bashing-om> enecon: jockey is no longer used in later releases, what release are you running ?
[21:09] <Guest8351> Bashing-om: So far, everything ends with ...../wine
[21:09] <Flaiker> hi, i just switched to the propietary drivers from amd and now after rebooting I only get in a low graphics command line only mode. Can someone tell me how I can restore the standard vide drivers?
[21:09] <liox_> plis ubuntu server chane?
[21:09] <liox_> channel?
[21:10] <reisio> liox_: /msg alis list *ubunt*serv*
[21:10] <enecon> Bashing-om 13.10
[21:10] <pr0t> TJ: when I try to mount it I get the error unknown filesystem type LVM2_member
[21:10] <Bashing-om> Guest8351: Terminal command -> cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/wine1.6.list <- a list of the files/locations that were installed .
[21:11] <Multbrelch> Dear all. Is there somebody who might have any idea?
[21:11] <reisio> Multbrelch: soap on rope!
[21:11] <reisio> Multbrelch: about what?
[21:12] <Bashing-om> enecon: Yeah, that will bring up "Additional Drivers" utility .. but, are you not running a GUI to access SD directly ?
[21:12] <Multbrelch> ? see above? or did they bock it?
[21:12] <bootfail> Hi all. I get a mount fail and cant boot? mount: mounting /dev/mapper/xubuntu--vg-root on /root failed: invalid argument
[21:12] <enecon> Bashing-om whats GUI? (:
[21:12] <TJ-> pr0t: Ahhh OK, so then do "sudo vgchange -ay"
[21:13] <Guest8351> Bashing-om: Shold that replace the find command?
[21:13] <Multbrelch> reisio, have you seen my posting?
[21:13] <Bashing-om> enecon: GUI = Graphic User Interface .. such as unity, Gnome, or some other DeskTop,
[21:13] <TJ-> pr0t: Then, once we are sure the OS knows about the LVM do "ls /dev/mapper/" and figure out which node is the root file-system. If you can pastebin that it would really help: "ls /dev/mapper/ | pastebinit"
[21:13] <reisio> Multbrelch: nope, I'm on IRC not a forum
[21:14] <Multbrelch> k
[21:14] <Multbrelch> mom
[21:15] <Multbrelch> I just don't get it! --- Q: I just have a partition (/sd4/) that is mounted via fstab (/dev/sda4	/media/partition	ext4	defaults		0       0) during boot ... that works well. So far so good. Then I added an user via "sudo useradd -d /media/partition/userA -m userA" and re-booted. Now: I cannot login into userA because (this is what I guess) the *strawberry* partition is not mounted, it only mounts when I login into my own (admin) account. Ho
[21:15] <Multbrelch> w can I tell the *strawberry* system that it shall mount the partition before this screen of login with all users appears such that I can login into userA. - BTW: the other users are on regular /home/... . Any help is greatly appreciated.
[21:15] <Bashing-om> Guest8351: No, on replace, what ya want to do is compare both outputs to what remains installed onto the system, Any file from 'wine1.6.list' should be removed.
[21:15] <enecon> Bashing-om I am in the download softaeare center  thing ( its not in english here )  and I searched for  jockey-gtk . and sure I am not in terminal right now
[21:15] <Multbrelch> reisio, ^
[21:15] <tachyons> hi guys , can any help me to connect my ubuntu laptop and pc
[21:15] <tachyons> using cable
[21:16] <tachyons> without a router
[21:16] <pr0t> TJ: paste.ubuntu.com/7821629
[21:16] <tachyons> I tried this http://askubuntu.com/questions/22835/how-to-network-two-ubuntu-computers-using-ethernet-without-a-router
[21:16] <tachyons> it shows "connected" , but ping test fails
[21:17] <Bashing-om> enecon: "Additional Drivers" is installed on desktops by default .. what desk top are you running .. and by the way release 13.10 is End_Of_Life .. and is no longer supported. Upgrade to a current release ( 14.04 !).
[21:17] <TJ-> pr0t: now do "sudo mount /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root /mnt/target" then list the directory again
[21:17] <KeyboardNotFound> How to disable guest login on xubuntu
[21:17] <KeyboardNotFound> ?
[21:17] <Guest8351> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7821630/
[21:17] <Bashing-om> Guest8351: looking at your /7821630/ .
[21:18] <reisio> KeyboardNotFound: grep -ir guest /etc/light*
[21:18] <pr0t> paste.ubuntu.com/7821638
[21:18] <pr0t> it actually mounted
[21:18] <KeyboardNotFound> reisio, I don't see something on the monitor
[21:18] <reisio> Multbrelch: you want a user dir outside of /home/ ?
[21:18] <enecon> Bashing-om its a laptop
[21:19] <reisio> KeyboardNotFound: do you see a new prompt?
[21:19] <KeyboardNotFound> reisio, no i dont'
[21:19] <reisio> KeyboardNotFound: then it's working
[21:19] <KeyboardNotFound> reisio, no result :/
[21:19] <Multbrelch> reisio, exactly
[21:20] <TJ-> pr0t: show me "find  /mnt/target/boot | pastebinit"
[21:20] <reisio> KeyboardNotFound: dpkg -l | grep -i lightdm
[21:20] <reisio> Multbrelch: pastebin your fstab, and the commands you ran
[21:21] <Multbrelch> reiso, k mom
[21:21] <pr0t> TJ: 7821646
[21:22] <Multbrelch> reisio, http://pastebin.com/G44V0qHa <= partition = Diverses
[21:22] <KeyboardNotFound> reisio, ok, now  I see something "ii  liblightdm-gobject-1-0                    1.10.1-0ubuntu1 "
[21:22] <TJ-> pr0t: So there is nothing installed there... makes sense since it couldn't boot from there
[21:22] <reisio> KeyboardNotFound: that's all?
[21:23] <Bashing-om> Guest8351: Humm .. not the output as I expected to see .. ok, what returns from -> ls -la /etc/xdg/menus <-, as an instance .
[21:23] <Flaiker> does anyone know how i can restore to use the standard graphics driver? the proprietary one only letts me into commandlinemode :/
[21:23] <KeyboardNotFound> reisio, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7821651/ this is all
[21:23] <reisio> Multbrelch: and what was the useradd command?
[21:23] <Multbrelch> reiso, mom
[21:23] <reisio> KeyboardNotFound: dpkg -l | egrep -i 'gdm|kdm|lxdm'
[21:23] <Multbrelch> reisio, "sudo useradd -d /media/Diverses/home/lui -m lui"
[21:23] <pr0t> TJ: now can I try auto repair :)
[21:23] <reisio> KeyboardNotFound: oh nevermind
[21:24] <KeyboardNotFound> reisio, :/
[21:24] <Guest8351> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7821656/
[21:25] <reisio> KeyboardNotFound: for i in $(dpkg -L lightdm); do grep -Hi guest "$i"; done
[21:25] <Bashing-om> enecon: The machine is not in the equation, we are talking about a utility " Additional Drivers" that is by default installed with the desk top that you are using. Additional utilities" icon's location differs with each release and desktop.
[21:26] <KeyboardNotFound> reisio, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7821658/
[21:26] <reisio> Multbrelch: and what were you talking about strawberries?
[21:27] <pingw1n_> mod
[21:27] <pingw1n_> *motd
[21:27] <Multbrelch> reisio, *strawberries* is a dummy for a very bad word ... :) I'm a bit upset because I don't quite understand the system right now, how it behaves.
[21:28] <pingw1n> \wc
[21:28] <reisio> KeyboardNotFound: for i in $(dpkg -L lightdm-gtk-greeter); do grep -Hi guest "$i"; done
[21:28] <reisio> Multbrelch: k
[21:29] <reisio> Multbrelch: you could try using a label instead of 'sda4'
[21:29] <reisio> Multbrelch: lsblk -f will say if it's got one already
[21:29] <pr0t> TJ: how can I decrypt my home directory as well?
[21:29] <enecon> Bashing-om well then the truth I dont understnat "what desk top are you running "
[21:29] <Multbrelch> reisio, aha, I will see mom
[21:29] <TJ-> pr0t: Is it inside that encrypted root file-system?
[21:29] <KeyboardNotFound> reisio, only /usr/share/doc/lightdm-gtk-greeter/copyright: ./src/guest-account.c
[21:29] <KeyboardNotFound> /usr/share/doc/lightdm-gtk-greeter/copyright: ./src/guest-account.h
[21:29] <KeyboardNotFound> others are directory
[21:30] <pr0t> I am unsure if it is or if its a separate partition, i can't remember
[21:30] <reisio> KeyboardNotFound: http://askubuntu.com/questions/62564/how-do-i-disable-the-guest-session
[21:31] <KeyboardNotFound> reisio, I do not have /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[21:31] <KeyboardNotFound> file
[21:31] <Bashing-om> Guest8351: Following the path ; now what returns -> ls -la /etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged <- .. mind ya a long drwn out process to check for all files that 'might' still remain on the system.
[21:32] <Multbrelch> reisio, http://pastebin.com/CD0DsKkb <= sd3 is an encrypted partition, this is why there is no 'label'
[21:32] <TJ-> pr0t: OK, well you can check by doing "ls -la /mnt/target/home/.ecryptfs/"
[21:32] <pr0t> yup it is
[21:32] <pr0t> so thats fine
[21:32] <reisio> KeyboardNotFound: /usr/share/lightdm/ then
[21:33] <KeyboardNotFound> reisio, sudo sh -c 'printf "[SeatDefaults]\nallow-guest=false\n" >/usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-no-guest.conf' helped me
[21:33] <pr0t> Im going to move forward with the repair.
[21:33] <reisio> KeyboardNotFound: gj
[21:33] <KeyboardNotFound> reisio, ty :)
[21:33] <pr0t> TJ: thank you for yourself I haven't worked with Ubuntu much at all, and haven't ever worked with encrypted filesystems really.
[21:34] <TJ-> pr0t: OK, so try "sudo ecryptfs-recover-private /mnt/target/home/<your-username>"
[21:34] <pr0t> s/yourself/"your help"
[21:34] <pr0t> very cool, ill give that a shot
[21:34] <Guest8351> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7821682/
[21:34] <Bashing-om> enecon: OK< when you installed 13.10, was it as a standard desktop install ? // if so the best of my hazy memory, Additional drivers -> ubuntu software Center -> software sources -> (edit menu option on top task bar) ->Additional Drivers (tab in Software Sources) .
[21:35] <Bashing-om> Guest8351: look'n at /7821682
[21:35] <Multbrelch> reisio, so, what shall I change in the fstab?
[21:36] <bootfail> TJ: trying to follow along, but missed the beginning. seems like maybe i have similar problem to pr0t
[21:36] <reisio> Multbrelch: instead of /dev/sda4
[21:36] <reisio> Multbrelch: you could have 'LABEL=foo'
[21:37] <TJ-> bootfail: Is the PC at a busybox shell prompt?
[21:37] <Bashing-om> Guest8351: OK, you may remove wine.menu , wine.menu.dpkg-new . // do you see the process ? Got to do this and follow each and every lead to it's end.
[21:37] <TJ-> bootfail: Your issue is entirely different, and much easier to fix too :)
[21:37] <Multbrelch> reisio, so 'LABEL=/media/Diverses' ?
[21:37] <Multbrelch> aha
[21:37] <bootfail> TJ: yay. i am booted to live cd
[21:37] <reisio> Multbrelch: no
[21:37] <Multbrelch> ?
[21:38] <reisio> Multbrelch: whatever the label 'lsblk -f' says it has
[21:38] <reisio> Multbrelch: you can set one with e2label, if it's ext
[21:38] <Multbrelch> http://pastebin.com/CD0DsKkb
[21:38] <TJ-> bootfail: what was the last thing you did/happened on that system before it broke?
[21:38] <Guest8351> Bashing-om: Sorry, but what command?  rm -rf?
[21:38] <Multbrelch> its sd4
[21:38] <reisio> Multbrelch: no sda4 is just its enumeration
[21:39] <bootfail> TJ: power fail. hasn't booted successfully since then. tried a lot of things i found in forums. hope i didn't mess it up more.
[21:39] <Multbrelch> reisio, right, there is no label ...
[21:39] <bootfail> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7817881/
[21:39] <reisio> Multbrelch: it's the first device it found ('a') and the fourth partition ('4')
[21:39] <reisio> Multbrelch: you can set one with e2label, if it's ext
[21:39] <Multbrelch> I see
[21:39] <TJ-> bootfail: OK, give me a few minutes to read up on it
[21:39] <Multbrelch> reisio, and you think that might help?
[21:39] <enecon> Bashing-om ok I am there , so you are saying that I could switch to open source ?
[21:39] <bootfail> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7821707/
[21:39] <Multbrelch> hmmm, needs to read manuals about label and e2label
[21:39] <pr0t> bootfail: do you already have boot-repair-disk iso?
[21:39] <reisio> Multbrelch: quite possibly, won't hurt regardless
[21:39] <pr0t> it's very useful for this problem
[21:40] <reisio> Multbrelch: no, just run e2label
[21:40] <Multbrelch> k
[21:40] <enecon> ok Bashing-om thx , I ll try that :)
[21:40] <bootfail> TJ: yes. i tried 'recommended' fix, but no luck
[21:40] <Multbrelch> reisio, its ext4 I'm using
[21:40] <reisio> Multbrelch: then...
[21:41] <reisio> Multbrelch: you can set one with e2label
[21:41] <Multbrelch> http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl8_e2label.htm
[21:41] <bootfail> pr0t: sorry. didn't notice you posted that. yes. tried boot-repair without luck
[21:41] <Multbrelch> seems to be for ext2, no?
[21:41] <TJ-> bootfail: Not great news on first review - it looks as if the root file-system in /dev/mapper/xubuntu-vg-root has been severely damaged, possibly beyond the possibility of repair. Based on your reporting the power loss by guess would be that the disk lost power as it was writing to the areas of the disk that file-system is at, causing random corruption.
[21:41] <reisio> Multbrelch: they're all based on ext2, one util
[21:42] <Multbrelch> okay, you say so ... so I will try ... needs some time, mom
[21:42] <bootfail> TJ: yuck. i don't mind doing a reinstall, but would like to recover some files. any chance i can access that? it is encrypted i think
[21:42] <TJ-> bootfail: The only chance there is, I think, TestDisk. See this tutorial for how to use it from Live ISO: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootSectorFix#Step_2_-_Install_TestDisk_in_the_live-session
[21:43] <TJ-> bootfail: The root file-system doesn't look to be encrypted, but the home directory may have been
[21:43] <bootfail> TJ: yes, that sounds right. if i can get to that, i could pull the files/folders i want
[21:44] <BrandonC> hey all
[21:44] <BrandonC> so broke boot stuff trying to get windows 7 and ubuntu on hard drive
[21:44] <reisio> gj
[21:44] <BrandonC> installed windows, installed ubuntu, told ubuntu to split drive in two partitions
[21:45] <BrandonC> tired to start over and installin windows on whole thing and it said couldnt write to drive
[21:45] <BrandonC> repair said mbr was corrupt
[21:45] <Jeffrey_f> Pidgin not minimizing (is this a #pidgin question or can this be solved here?)
[21:45] <BrandonC> got in ubuntu and made this
[21:45] <BrandonC> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7821709/
[21:45] <entreri> hello, what is the name of the new kde5 package so I can download it ?
[21:45] <TJ-> bootfail: First see if testdisk can recover anything by telling it to try "sudo testdisk /dev/mapper/xubuntu-vg-root"
[21:45] <bootfail> TJ: ok. just got testdisk
[21:46] <Multbrelch> reisio, strange, when I do "sudo e2label /dev/sda4 Diverses" it does not show any label in "lsblk -f"
[21:47] <SupaYoshi> just wondering anyone good with setting up a openvpn server, on a vps?
[21:47] <SupaYoshi> to route all traffic through the vpn from the clients?
[21:47] <SupaYoshi> Ive setup everything already, I just get no internet on the client sides.
[21:47] <SupaYoshi> communication from and to the server works.
[21:47] <SupaYoshi> and to the client works too.
[21:48] <TJ-> Multbrelch: That is because you need to use "sudo ..." in order for lsblk to access the additional info for "-f"
[21:48] <bootfail> TJ: not sure what it is telling me:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7821753/
[21:48] <Seveas> SupaYoshi enable ip forwarding and maybe adjust your firewall
[21:48] <Diamondcite> SupaYoshi: Did you remember to setup the NAT or Forwarding rule to actually send the connections to the clients?
[21:49] <TJ-> bootfail: That suggests testdisk thinks the file-system is OK... highlight the 'ext4' line and then press P to look at files
[21:49] <Multbrelch> TJ-, yes, now it works, thx!
[21:50] <naughtydog>  /join #tryton
[21:50] <bootfail> TJ: doh. i told it to do the 'deeper search' seems like that will take awhile
[21:51] <TJ-> bootfail: You can always press Ctrl+C to interrupt it
[21:52] <Multbrelch> reisio and TJ-, I boot now and tell you then if it works ...
[21:52] <Multbrelch> cu soon
[21:52] <unreal-dude> i am a complete loss. been working at this since thursday, about to reformat. upgraded from 13.10 to 14.04 and lost all network capability with AR9285 and AR8132 Qualcomm adapter in my netbook. I was not able to compile any drivers because either they are 64bit and im on a 32bit cpu or the compile dies with my newer kernel. What are my options? I have to usb wifi dongles but they won't install
[21:52] <unreal-dude> either without drivers which i need network to get.
[21:52] <reisio> unreal-dude: works with older kernel?
[21:53] <xMopxShell> i'm on ubuntu server 13.10 and want to upgrade to 14.04. when i run do-release-upgrade it says No new release found. why is this?
[21:53] <Jeffrey_f> Pidgin not minimizing to tray on hitting [X] (is this a #pidgin question or can this be solved here?)
[21:53] <xMopxShell> oh wait im dumb :)
[21:53] <xMopxShell> i am on 14.04 :)
[21:54] <chad> hello
[21:54] <reisio> Jeffrey_f: IIRC that's a pref
[21:54] <reisio> chad: 'lo
[21:54] <unreal-dude> reisio, how would i test this?
[21:55] <Bashing-om> Guest8351: Let's do this: -> sudo apt-get --purge remove wine1.6 , sudo apt-get autoremove wine. And I have a list of places to verify no Wine file exist in.
[21:56] <bootfail> TJ: this doesn't seem right. i think i took a wrong turn http://paste.ubuntu.com/7821786/
[21:57] <TJ-> bootfail: Hmmm, lets exit testdisk and try the suggested file-system repair. Press Ctrl+C and do whatever else needed to eXit back to the shell prompt
[21:58] <bootfail> TJ: ok there.
[21:59] <Multbrelch> reisio and TJ-, this really is strange, the partition is mounted for the owner "ownerA" but not for the user "userA". BTW: userA is in the group of "ownerA".
[21:59] <trism> Jeffrey_f: it is a pref as reisio said but it depends on the desktop, in recent unity versions the systray is gone so it can't minimize there (without the indicator plugin), but it will minimize to the messaging menu
[21:59] <TJ-> bootfail: OK, now do "sudo fsck.ext4 -p -b 4096000 -B 4096 /dev/mapper/xubuntu--vg-root"
[22:01] <unreal-dude> reisio, yes, it works on 3.11 but not 3.13. should i worry about this and fix the issue? or just run on 3.11?
[22:02] <Marlenee> how can i setup ubuntu from pc without USB flash Drive ?
[22:03] <bootfail> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7821817/
[22:03] <Multbrelch> reisio and TJ-, in other words: can I create a home directory for "userA" somewhere on a partition, which owner is another user (e.g., "usrB") but where ownerA is part of the group ownerB?
[22:03] <TJ-> bootfail: So nicely fixed then, and no major faults either
[22:03] <super> whats the other chatroom for offtopic?
[22:04] <Bashing-om> Guest8351: I must be away from the keyboard for an extended amount of time ( 2/3 hours ) .. sorry if I am leaving you in a bind.
[22:04] <bootfail> TJ: should i dare try a reboot?
[22:04] <Multbrelch> reisio and TJ-, in other words: can I create a home directory for "userA" somewhere on a partition, which owner is another user (e.g., "userB") but where userA is part of the group userB? <= corrected
[22:04] <Guest8351> Bashing-om: You are doing so much so far.
[22:04] <excelsiora> any checklists on backing up stuff from Ubuntu when you don't want to backup the whole system or home directory? (like, I want to leave behind movies and system junk except my wifi passwords, which I've already found and backed up.)
[22:04] <TJ-> bootfail: you can mount that file-system and explore it to make sure it looks OK first. "sudo mkdir -p /mnt/target && sudo mount /dev/mapper/xubuntu--vg-root /mnt/target"
[22:05] <genii> Marlenee: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Installation_without_a_CD has most of the methods described
[22:05] <ryan_461> super: ubuntu-offtopic
[22:06] <Bashing-om> Guest8351: Try'n to help .. I will check your situation when I return .
[22:06] <TJ-> Multbrelch: I've not been following what your issue was, sorry, I just chimed in on the 'lsblk -f' issue
[22:06] <skinux> A little help finding a quality article on configuring Ubuntu to actually use SWAP partition that it should be using?
[22:06] <Guest8351> Bashing-om: probably will need to leave.  It's midnight where I am
[22:06] <reisio> Multbrelch: yeah, but why
[22:07] <reisio> skinux: /etc/fstab is where it's specified
[22:07] <TJ-> Multbrelch: But I think one of the checks that one of the PAM modules does when a user logs in, is that the $HOME is owned by that user
[22:07] <Bashing-om> Guest8351: OK, just be careful with any 'rm' commands .. triple check .. 'rm' has no forgivness for a mistake !
[22:08] <Multbrelch> TJ-, this is the case, the partition is owned by userB, but the home "/partition/home" of userA is owned by user userA
[22:08] <skinux> I know that. I need appropriate commands for getting the proper information to put in fstab.
[22:08] <bootfail> TJ: i am hopefull, seems like it is there, but i;m not sure how to get into it
[22:09] <Guest8351> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7821841/
[22:10] <Multbrelch> TJ- and reisio, I changed the rights of the partition in /media/ to "sudo chmod 777 Diverses/"
[22:10] <Multbrelch> lets see ...
[22:10] <Multbrelch> - reboot -
[22:11] <laughingtiger> good morrow everyone.
[22:11] <bootfail> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7821847/
[22:13] <TJ-> bootfail: That looks as we'd expect... try for a reboot
[22:14] <bootfail> TJ: will do. thank you!
[22:16] <MajorTom> hello
[22:16] <reisio> 'lo
[22:17] <Multbrelch> TJ-, reisio ... it works, after a "chmod 777" of the partition. <= strange this since this is a non-desired constellation now ...
[22:17] <bootSUCCESS> TJ: seems to have worked! Thank you much for the help!
[22:18] <Jeffrey_f> trism and reisio, in Gnome
[22:18] <TJ-> Multbrelch: Maybe the user didn't have traverse rights or write rights to the $HOME entry itself
[22:18] <MajorTom> hey folks I'm having a problem in connecting to a website using firefox on Lubuntu
[22:18] <TJ-> bootSUCCESS: YAY :D
[22:19] <Multbrelch> TJ-, hmmmm mom
[22:19] <MajorTom> I noticed that some friends of mine, linux users, are havinf my same experience
[22:20] <Jeffrey_f> MajorTom: What website?
[22:20] <MajorTom> it is impossible to connect
[22:20] <MajorTom> can I write it?
[22:20] <laughingtiger> hi there, I have a problem with bluetooth daemon on startup. I've purged the bluetooth, however, there're three bluttooth related things left which i'm afraid can't be purged.
[22:21] <skinux>  How do I get the volume id for SWAP partition? blkid?
[22:21] <laughingtiger> what should I do to disable the left-over bluetooth things from booting? thank you guys.
[22:21] <Jeffrey_f> MajorTom: If you are having issues, the more info, the better.
[22:22] <daftykins> skinux: if you want to mount via UUID sure
[22:22] <MajorTom> I written the website on your pvt
[22:22] <skinux> blkid doesn't return anything for /dev/sda
[22:23] <MajorTom> on your private i mean
[22:23] <skinux> I want to get Ubuntu to use SWAP. So, whatever I have to do to make that happen.
[22:23] <Jeffrey_f> MajorTom: Stay on channel.  When was this issue happening??
[22:23] <MajorTom> ok
[22:23] <MajorTom> always
[22:23] <MajorTom> since about 3 days
[22:23] <Jeffrey_f> Have you tried today??
[22:23] <MajorTom> yeah
[22:23] <MajorTom> many times
[22:24] <daftykins> skinux: are you using sudo
[22:24] <skinux> Yes
[22:24] <daftykins> o0
[22:24] <MajorTom> it is so strange
[22:25] <Jeffrey_f> MajorTom: The site was down yesterday (not known how long before that).  It is accessible today.  Yesterday, I did notice i could not connect via my instant messenger nor from the web.
[22:25] <MajorTom> I used xchat to connect to their irc network too...but now neither it is working anymore
[22:25] <daftykins> skinux: can you install pastebinit and then run "sudo parted -l | pastebinit" and "sudo blkid | pastebinit" ?
[22:25] <MajorTom> uh I see
[22:25] <MajorTom> thanks jeffrey,,,,
[22:25] <MajorTom> I will try again
[22:26] <Jeffrey_f> MajorTom: so, the Ubuntu GUI is not relevant, I am using firefox and have no issues connecting.
[22:26] <MajorTom> mmm
[22:26] <MajorTom> wait i wanna try now
[22:26] <Aki-Thinkpad> in bzr, what is the command to discard your current branch, and revert to a branch on lp?
[22:26] <Multbrelch> TJ-, I followed your advice and: userA is not in the group ("userB") of userB
[22:27] <laughingtiger> well, looks like no one is gonna help me.
[22:27] <laughingtiger> lol
[22:28] <Aki-Thinkpad> laughingtiger, sorry what is your issue?
[22:28] <Aki-Thinkpad> I just got here
[22:28] <skinux> parted doesn't even show the SWAP partition.
[22:28] <Aki-Thinkpad> what should I do to disable the left-over bluetooth things from booting? *
[22:28] <MajorTom> jeffrey here always the same..."it is not possible to contact the server"
[22:28] <MajorTom> :(
[22:29] <Aki-Thinkpad> laughingtiger, what do you mean, "Left over bluetooth things*?
[22:29] <MajorTom> maybe they are doing some work to their systems...
[22:29] <Aki-Thinkpad> Like I have blue tooth on my laptop, but because I don't have any devices, I just disable it in the bios
[22:29] <laughingtiger> thank you AKi-Thinkpad. My issue is that with having purged bluetooth , there still are something related left which will boot on startup. I wanna get rid of this totally.
[22:29] <TJ-> Aki-Thinkpad: That is sufficient
[22:30] <Shadowcrit> Hello there, can I ask for users opinions on a good web enabled control panel to help control my Ubuntu 14.04 VPS on the OpenVZ platform.
[22:30] <TJ-> Aki-Thinkpad: sorry, that was for laughingtiger ... darned tab-completion :)
[22:30] <Aki-Thinkpad> lol
[22:31] <Aki-Thinkpad> I guess I don't know what you mean by purged blootooth; are you mucking about with kernel modules?
[22:31] <Jeffrey_f> MajorTom: I'm connected on IM and via web.  Maybe there are issues on other servers in their system
[22:31] <MajorTom> I see
[22:31] <Aki-Thinkpad> laughingtiger, as in, are you trying to remove all blootooth modules from the linux kernel?
[22:31] <MajorTom> I will wait for they fix it
[22:31] <laughingtiger> well, Aki-Thinkpad, "libbluetooth3", "libgnome-bluetooth8" and "pulseaudio-module-bluetooth" are the three left things.
[22:31] <MajorTom> thanks jeffrey
[22:32] <Jeffrey_f> problem with Pidgin not minimizing to tray in Ubuntu 14.04 Gnome.  I don't see anything in preferences to fix this.  It used to minimize to the tray on hitting the [X] , now it just exits
[22:32] <Aki-Thinkpad> laughingtiger, what is the purpose? Just to free up resources?
[22:32] <laughingtiger> I don't know too much about editing kernels.
[22:32] <laughingtiger> no, to let the bluetooth not booting on startup.
[22:32] <Aki-Thinkpad> laughingtiger, disable bluetooth in the bios
[22:33] <Aki-Thinkpad> laughingtiger, this is a laptop, right?
[22:33] <skinux> Do I actually want to add a SWAP file or use a SWAP partition?
[22:33] <laughingtiger> nope, it's a larger one.
[22:33] <SierraAR> I'm wanting to upgrade an ubuntu 12.04 server to 14.04, but when I run sudo do-release-upgrade, it's telling me no new release found. Is there something else I need to do to update?
[22:33] <Aki-Thinkpad> if bluetooth is from your motherboard, disable it in bios
[22:33] <Aki-Thinkpad> if bluetooth is from a prehiperal; just unplug it
[22:35] <reisio> ...
[22:35] <zyntux> meh
[22:35] <TJ-> laughingtiger: simply blacklist the "bluetooth" module: "echo "blacklist bluetooth" | sudo dd of=/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-bluetooth.conf"
[22:36] <Multbrelch> TJ- and reisio, ALL WORKS NOW: at the end I found out that userA was NOT in the group of userB! Probably, I forgot to write "sudo"  "usermod -a -G  ..."
[22:36] <laughingtiger> thanks TJ- I'll  try that.
[22:36] <reisio> Multbrelch: gj
[22:36] <Multbrelch> Anyway, one always has to verify the commands one is just executing ...
[22:37] <Multbrelch> Thx for great help, reisio and TJ-
[22:39] <MajorTom> I remember I used a lot pidgin in the past
[22:39] <MajorTom> it is a nice software
[22:39] <jp_porter> OK guys i have a big problem i open compiz and removed the borders and then my computer froze on me so i cant open any programes like compiz to put the borders back on can someone help me
[22:39] <reisio> jp_porter: you can't alt+F2?
[22:40] <Multbrelch> jp_porter, is it 13.04?
[22:40] <jp_porter> yes i can
[22:41] <Jeffrey_f> problem with Pidgin not minimizing to tray in Ubuntu 14.04 Gnome.  I don't see anything in preferences to fix this.  It used to minimize to the tray on hitting the [X] , now it just exits.  Any ideas??
[22:42] <jj995> is there a way to get /usr/bin/time -v data for the whole process tree instead of just the single process being run?
[22:43] <jj995> i have a python script that subprocesses or more C++ apps and I'd like to get total time and max resident memory
[22:43] <jp_porter> do you know th command that opens the window
[22:43] <MajorTom> try to hit near the [x] let's see what happens
[22:43] <jj995> jp_porter: "open ." ?
[22:43] <reisio> jp_porter: ccsm? ls /usr/bin/*cc*
[22:44] <reisio> probably in the menus, too
[22:44] <souri> Jeffrey_f: Is your pidgin attached to the messaging menu?
[22:44] <jp_porter> a command that launch's compz 's settings
[22:44] <Jeffrey_f> jp_porter: Yes, you mean the envelope icon?
[22:45] <Mafia> salam all o/
[22:45] <reisio> shalom
[22:46] <souri> Jeffrey_f, yes. if then also pidgin fails to respond, it is actually an issue with pidgin itself, pidgin does not use the telepathy service
[22:46] <Mafia> Some needs to be treated by Hitler
[22:46] <softballs> TJ-: evenin mate :) up late again ey?
[22:46] <jp_porter> is it compiz --replace
[22:47] <TJ-> softballs: :)
[22:47] <reisio> jp_porter: you can try it, but it might just reload the wm still without window borders
[22:47] <zyntux> what does compiz do exactly i uninstalled it because it was causing me errors
[22:47] <reisio> zyntux: hardware accelerated window manager
[22:47] <souri> Jeffrey_f, Ubuntu relies on the telepathy backend AFAIK for the way empathy works, you have to keep pidgin alive, someone please correct me if i'm wrong
[22:47] <reisio> zyntux: that is "pretty" window management
[22:47] <softballs> i moved the code to my aws server now
[22:48] <foofoobar> Hi. I just installed ubuntu after win7. Grub does not give me options upon booting, I'm directly booted into ubuntu.
[22:48] <softballs> you said something about github, should i look into that?
[22:48] <zyntux> thanks! guess i'll leave my pc w/o it seems alot better now
[22:48] <foofoobar> How can I tell grub that there is also a windows on this hard drive?
[22:48] <reisio> foofoobar: pastebin your grub.cfg
[22:49] <foofoobar> reisio, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7821977/
[22:50] <reisio> foofoobar: yup, no entry for windows
[22:51] <reisio> foofoobar: how about the output of sudo lsblk -f
[22:51] <TJ-> softballs: If you want to make it easy for others to help with the code. First learn the basics of source-code control in a local git repo for the merc code, then when you're ready 'push' it to github where others (like me!) can view, clone, and publish changes
[22:51] <foofoobar> reisio, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7821983/
[22:51] <softballs> TJ-: oh ok, looking at the git webpage right now, do you think there would be others interested in modifying its code?
[22:52] <souri> Hi, I need some help with the sony_laptop module's ALS based backlight dimming. I cannot get it working. I can adjust the backlight manually, also I can see the values in the embedded controller's registers changing, however I do not know how to figure out issue. Help?
[22:52] <TJ-> softballs: you'd be surprised what talent is out that that has nostalga for such code, or just want easy codebases to contribute/learn with
[22:53] <softballs> TJ-:  sounds cool, ill definitely check it out then :)
[22:53] <laughingtiger> it's interesting that xchat is a non-free software on windows.
[22:53] <reisio> foofoobar: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Custom_Menu_Entries
[22:54] <TJ-> softballs: If you do I may hav a crack at adding that unicode support you spoke of :)
[22:55] <foofoobar> reisio, so I need to create a custom entry?
[22:55] <softballs> TJ-: sure thing :) do you want me to setup git right away for you to access it? or do you want to go with the code i sent you last night?
[22:55] <Jeffrey_f> souri: So what do you suggest?
[22:55] <TJ-> softballs: Let's take this private, as it isn't Ubuntu related now
[22:56] <laughingtiger> I'm getting crazy that libgnome-bluetooth8 can't be removed because network-gnome-manager will also be removed. is it safe to remove them all and reinstall network-manager?
[22:56] <reisio> foofoobar: that's the straightforward fix
[22:56] <reisio> foofoobar: there's a win7 example linked from the place I linked
[22:58] <SierraAR> I'm wanting to upgrade an ubuntu 12.04 server to 14.04, but when I run sudo do-release-upgrade, it's telling me no new release found. Is there something else I need to do to update?
[22:58] <laughingtiger> lol
[22:59] <foofoobar> reisio, Using "--set" rather than "--set=root" in GRUB 1..99 will result in an "error: no argument specified" message.
[22:59] <ObrienDave> SierraAR, wait for 14.04.1 due out soon
[22:59] <laughingtiger> SierraAR: maybe 14.04 is not a long-term support edition
[22:59] <foofoobar> so the example is old, correct?
[22:59] <souri> Jeffrey_f, my laptop (a vaio s13) has got an ambient light sensor, that in windows, it automatically uses to dim the backlight of the screen. In linux (ubuntu 14.04 kenel 3.13.0-30-generic) however the automatic dimming does not work
[22:59] <racho> SierraAR, check out you apt sources list
[22:59] <SierraAR> laughingtiger: 14.04 is a lts
[23:00] <SierraAR> racho: Anything in particular I need to look for? There's only 4 entries
[23:00] <souri> Jeffrey_f,  the values i see changing are the dump from the embedded controller's RAM. I've tried digging the source of the kernel module, i can't figure out how the module is listenning to the events from the embedded controller, i was hoping someone was familiar with the kernel code, acpi and the driver framework, so I cound figure this out
[23:01] <laughingtiger> SierraAR: really, well, then I've got the same issue with you because I tried to upgrade my system too about two days ago.
[23:01] <racho> SierraAR, i used to to run ubuntu servers and if you don't update right away the archive the repos to a new url
[23:01] <racho> *they
[23:01] <xtriz> what is the name of the channel of ubuntu mirror  ?
[23:02] <xtriz> it's ubuntu-mirrors
[23:02] <xtriz> :D
[23:02] <SierraAR> racho: Not entirely sure what you mean, but this is whats in /etc/apt/sources.list: http://pastebin.com/DBLbpqDK
[23:02] <daftykins> SierraAR: 14.04.1 is only a few days away now.
[23:02] <mac_nibblet> Anyone here with a brix iris pro ?
[23:02] <laughingtiger> SierraAR: I had successfully updated my system , only still it's 12.04.
[23:02] <mac_nibblet> mine keeps getting kernel panics
[23:03] <racho> SierraAR, yeah that was the conf file i think (sry running slackware now)...check the wiki if these are the right url targets
[23:04] <laughingtiger> I was just boring, sorry if I'd bothered anyone.
[23:05] <foofoobar> reisio, I ran a grub-install but the menu still does not show up. I'm directly booted to ubuntu
[23:05] <laughingtiger> life is really boring, isn't it?
[23:06] <_zoggy_> anyone  know what happen to the 12.10 packages?
[23:06] <reisio> laughingtiger: yours is
[23:06] <racho> foofoobar, have you changed your "timeout" param in grub.conf
[23:06] <reisio> _zoggy_: not much
[23:06] <laughingtiger> reisio: lol
[23:06] <_zoggy_> http://archive.ubuntu.com quantal/main
[23:06] <_zoggy_> no longer there
[23:06] <_zoggy_> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.13 80]
[23:07] <eeee> !eol | _zoggy_
[23:07] <foofoobar> racho, no
[23:08] <Radzell> hi
[23:08] <ObrienDave> _zoggy_, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com quantal/main
[23:08] <Radzell> I have a macbook pro and he trackpad keep opening up the app switcher at random times.
[23:08] <_zoggy_> thats fine its end of life, would explain why no new packages.. but the repo was there last week
[23:08] <Radzell> How do I stop this
[23:08] <foofoobar> racho, there are a lot of "set timeouts" in my grub.cfg
[23:08] <foofoobar> Which one should I choose?
[23:08] <_zoggy_> ty
[23:09] <ObrienDave> _zoggy_, edit 'archive' to 'old-releases'
[23:09] <racho> foofoobar, i haven't configured my grub.conf since 2008 so i'm really rusty there..a google search will probably reveal most of the parts :)
[23:10] <MajorTom> I leave thanks for the help byee
[23:12] <foofoobar> racho, I looked under /etc/default/grub and found the timeout is set to 10
[23:13] <laughingtiger> China, North Korea, Iran, are the three evil power left on this planet. anyone agree with me?
[23:13] <reisio> laughingtiger: try #defocus
[23:13] <eeee> !ot | laughingtiger
[23:13] <zubir> foofoobar: if you're running grub2, you shouldn't be editing grub.cfg directly
[23:13] <foofoobar> zubir, okay.
[23:13] <laughingtiger> ok. I see.
[23:13] <foofoobar> I'm just looking for a way to enable dual booting with windows 7.
[23:14] <foofoobar> I added a win7 custom menu entry, now I want to show the menu.
[23:14] <zubir> ah okay
[23:14] <zubir> well
[23:14] <reisio> foofoobar: it doesn't show?
[23:14] <zubir> you should run "sudo update-grub" to generate a new grub.cfg based on the info in /etc/default/grub
[23:14] <foofoobar> oh, okay
[23:14] <theadmin> foofoobar: Have you ran "sudo update-grub"? It should detect other operating systems automatically.
[23:14] <foofoobar> I did sudo grub-install
[23:15] <foofoobar> I will reboot and try it, give me a second
[23:16] <foofoobar> Working, great :)
[23:16] <foofoobar> Thanks
[23:16] <zubir> awesome
[23:16] <zubir> there's a program called Grub Customizer as well
[23:17] <zubir> that gives you a nice GUI interface to customize your grub menu
[23:17] <foofoobar> zubir, yeah I installed it, but after executing it, my system crashed/rebootet
[23:18] <zubir> interesting
[23:18] <zubir> well, just stick with what you have then
[23:18] <geri> hi
[23:18] <geri> how can i replace all 0, in a file with 0,\t    \t = ta
[23:18] <geri> from the terminal
[23:18] <eeee> geri: man sed
[23:18] <geri> "0," -> "0\t"
[23:20] <geri> eeee: sed 's/0,/0<TAB>/g' input_file ??
[23:21] <skinux> Does Ubuntu have a Web-Based Management System, an equivelant of Windows' Management Instrumentation?
[23:22] <bprompt_> !webmin | skinux ?
[23:23] <skinux> I'm speaking of some sort of SQL-like service.
[23:23] <skinux> WebMin is only for managing web server related stuff like domains, hosting accounts, ftp users, etc.
[23:26] <geri> eeee: unescaped newline inside substitute pattern
[23:27] <howlingwolf> hello
[23:28] <howlingwolf> Anyone know how to remove a panel.
[23:28] <patrick_> hello?
[23:28] <howlingwolf> hi
[23:28] <patrick_> how come the linux channel doesnt allow to talk?
[23:28] <patrick_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8m0vnS-99o
[23:28] <zubir> geri: you could also try tr
[23:29] <zubir> something like
[23:29] <patrick_>  Nibiru The Denouement and Struggle for Control...
[23:29] <howlingwolf> anyone help me with my panel?
[23:29] <geri> zubir: ?
[23:30] <Th3U1timat3> Wait i used Webmin on Ubuntu before
[23:30] <zubir> cat input.txt | tr '0,' '0\t' > output.txt should work
[23:31] <zubir> It would turn a file that said "0, 0, 0," to "0      0      0      "
[23:31] <geri> zubir: tr: Illegal byte sequence
[23:31] <zubir> well
[23:31] <zubir> do man tr
[23:32] <zubir> it reads from stdin and writes to stdout
[23:33] <geri> it seems that a UTF-8 locale is causing Illegal byte sequence
[23:33] <geri> zubir:
[23:33] <zubir> ah
[23:33] <geri> how to address that?
[23:33] <zubir> no idea
[23:34] <zubir> oh
[23:34] <geri> hm
[23:35] <zubir> try "cat input | tr '0, ' '0,\t' > output
[23:35] <zubir> tr doesn't like it when the sets are of different sizes
[23:36] <bodhi_zazen> 666666m,,,,,,,,,,,,[[[...[[;[[[[[[[/,
[23:36] <bodhi_zazen> -
[23:37] <geri> zubir: same error
[23:38] <bodhi_zazen> [23:38] <bodhi_zazen> cccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc
[23:40] <congo76> what desktop r u guys using in ubuntu? I keep jumping around, don't care for unity
[23:40] <bprompt_> hmm
[23:40] <bprompt_> congo76:   I use kde for dm, and lxde for wm
[23:40] <racho> congo76, xfce when i want work done, gnome for showing off
[23:41] <congo76> I was using xfce but the logout buttons don't work anymore. need to research
[23:41] <congo76> been taking gnome (metacity) for a spin this weekend
[23:42] <congo76> @bprompt I haven't used kde since the 90s
[23:43] <bprompt_> hehe
[23:43] <bprompt_> I"ve been using kde since the 90's =P
[23:44] <congo76> i used to use in on redhat
[23:45] <bprompt_> I run many kde apps, thus, I also run gtk ones, but I run more kde ones......though I used to have gnome and kde both installed and ran either...back in SuSE
[23:45] <congo76> how is it on resources?
[23:46] <zubir> geri: yeah idk then
[23:46] <sqph> Hi. Just wondering: will there be google play store or future Ubuntu phones?
[23:46] <zubir> I'm running Mint so I'm using Cinnamon, it's pretty nice
[23:46] <bprompt_> congo76:   these days... lite, depends on specs...... I mean..  I do not run "kwin" the kde default window manager, I run lxde's, and that one is very light
[23:47] <d0n0v6n> i love xfce
[23:47] <racho> xfce is gnome sane
[23:47] <racho> and i used to run gnome for 10 years
[23:47] <bprompt_> used to run xfce also back in SuSE 9.2, liked it too
[23:49] <congo76> xfce is a nice one on the resources. I'm running on a 5 yr old Dell laptop w 3GB of Ram and onboard video card, Ubuntu 14.04 seemed to slow things down a bit so I started looking for less intense window managers
[23:50] <d0n0v6n> i am running it on a thinkpad x201.
[23:50] <renebarbosa> congo76, try Lubuntu :)
[23:50] <Shardvexz> congo76: you're on irc from minecraft? cool man
[23:50] <racho> congo76, it's because of compiz....man that thing is a CPU hog
[23:51] <racho> the amount of events it sends to X is astounding
[23:51] <congo76> @Shardvexz, no I'm in Linux. @rancho yeah you're right, that's why I switched to metacity 2D
[23:52] <bprompt_> congo76:    depends on a variaty of things you know... I ran kde with lxde in kubuntu 12.04 with 4gbs of ram... my machine was likely older than 5years. and it ran smooth.... then again, I had it on an SSD and that makes a huge difference
[23:52] <byte> n8
[23:52] <patrick_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTAx9hFbBxk&list=UUdMWRr3LoOPDbTmnH_go_3Q
[23:52] <congo76> bprompt: i'm still on a traditional hard drive :(
[23:53] <congo76> renebarbosa: thanks, might do that
[23:54] <bprompt_> congo76:   has ran well for me... some folks when they refer to slow... they might be referring to the "kwin" windows manager and the plasma framework...... just like folks referring to slow ubuntu may just be referring to unity or compiz... but you can just use another window manager and that'd do it
[23:55] <congo76> I'm a little hesitant to try any more desktops until i can figure out why my machine is booting to the command prompt instead of the login screen. uninstalled e17, it would blowup on login
[23:55] <racho> what is the time frame for ubuntu to transition to systemd?
[23:55] <RainMan28> hi everyone, I am trying to get a cron job to run, but it is just failing and I am trying to see its output via > /tmp/output.log >2&1 but no file is created
[23:56] <zubir> fuck compiz
[23:56] <eeee> RainMan28: i could be wrong, but check /var/log/syslog for hints
[23:57] <IdleOne> zubir: no swearing please
[23:57] <RainMan28> eeee: you're right
[23:58] <RainMan28> eeee: I'm seeing this: http://pastebin.com/HHEz3D08  any tips? thank you
[23:58] <laspahr> hmmm.. any clue why docky keeps closing? /:
[23:58] <RainMan28> eeee: my cron file is called lightswitch
[23:59] <racho> RainMan28, well obviously you have a syntax error
[23:59] <zubir> nah broe
[23:59] <laspahr> just logged into my computer after letting it sit locked (lid shut but all it does is lock), and docky wasn't opened