nacho20u | hola problemas con el wifi en lununtu 14.04 placa realtek hay solucion? | 01:04 |
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nacho20u | alguien sabe como agregar terminal,browser y leafpad en panel lxde? | 02:43 |
genii | !ar | 02:48 |
ubottu | La comunidad local de Argentina se puede encontrar en #ubuntu-ar y en su canal de offtopic: #ubuntu-ar-cafe | 02:48 |
phillw | rafaellaguna: (15:39:28) Meris2 [~NA@2001:982:2365:1:c1b:3029:8ee8:f137] entered the room. (CET -1 hour) | 16:39 |
rafaellaguna | :) | 16:39 |
rafaellaguna | :( | 16:39 |
phillw | ~ 2 hours ago | 16:39 |
rafaellaguna | oh yes, didn't see him | 16:39 |
rafaellaguna | Meris2, hello | 16:40 |
rafaellaguna | ðÐþpÄØ | 16:45 |
rafaellaguna | oops, sorry | 16:45 |
Meris2 | rafaellaguna, Sorry about yesterday, | 17:23 |
rafaellaguna | no, I'm sorry, my pc rebooted 5 times and didn't want to start again | 17:23 |
rafaellaguna | how can I help you? | 17:24 |
Meris2 | rafaellaguna, my lubuntu 14.04 is a jumbled mess when it comes to languages | 17:24 |
rafaellaguna | why? | 17:25 |
Meris2 | rafaellaguna, my default language (used right now) is Dutch, but my dialog screens (including the one of X-Chat) are in Swedish and my install messages used by apt are in Japanese | 17:26 |
rafaellaguna | O_o | 17:26 |
Meris2 | This is a default clean install, without any ppa's or config. file hacking | 17:27 |
rafaellaguna | I have to ask. did you tried to remove the language packs (except dutch)? | 17:27 |
rafaellaguna | English install? | 17:27 |
Meris2 | rafaellaguna, not yet, because I need them daily, both for UI (ext. support reasons) and IME (Japanese, umlauts used by Swedish) | 17:28 |
rafaellaguna | I can type Swedish with a Spanish keyboard | 17:30 |
rafaellaguna | just using Win as compose key | 17:30 |
rafaellaguna | but obviously you have a residual configuration there | 17:30 |
Meris2 | rafaellaguna, yes, by using UTF-8 intnl. with dead keys (Alt-Gr), like I use right now. For Western languages, that's all I need. | 17:31 |
Meris2 | Japanese is impossible without proper IME support though | 17:31 |
rafaellaguna | messages in terminal only are in Japanese if you install kohi-mincho fonts | 17:31 |
rafaellaguna | indeed, you need ibus or fcitx | 17:31 |
Meris2 | I use ibus myself, yes | 17:32 |
rafaellaguna | it's very very strange, is it a second setup over another? | 17:32 |
Meris2 | rafaellaguna, no, it's a vanilla install without any hacks whatsoever. | 17:32 |
rafaellaguna | so no fonts cache as guilty :) | 17:33 |
rafaellaguna | try to remove al languages with Language Support | 17:33 |
rafaellaguna | are you using Ubuntu or Lubuntu? | 17:33 |
Meris2 | It *is* a multiboot system alongside MacOSX sing ReFIT, but that level should not be accountable. | 17:33 |
rafaellaguna | doesn't matter | 17:33 |
Meris2 | rafaellaguna, I'm using Lubuntu 14.04 | 17:33 |
Meris2 | At home in Amsterdam I'm using Ubuntu, with exactly the same Language anomalies | 17:34 |
rafaellaguna | do you know any exorcist? | 17:35 |
rafaellaguna | this is incredible | 17:35 |
rafaellaguna | try this: first keep your system with ONE language only | 17:35 |
rafaellaguna | if needed clear the fonts cache (use fc-cache -rv ) | 17:36 |
Meris2 | rafaellaguna, before or after the language removal? | 17:36 |
rafaellaguna | clean before | 17:36 |
rafaellaguna | then add, for testing, a language that doesn't need keyboard layout (English, e.g.) | 17:37 |
Meris2 | rafaellaguna, fc-cache: succeeded | 17:42 |
rafaellaguna | you should logout and ensure you choose Dutch in your new (L)Ubuntu session, as it's the setup language | 17:43 |
rafaellaguna | do it and come back, all your apps should be in Dutch only, including your terminals | 17:43 |
Meris2 | rafaellaguna, removed all language support except Dutch | 17:44 |
rafaellaguna | nice | 17:44 |
Meris2 | brb, after logout/ logon | 17:45 |
rafaellaguna | ok | 17:45 |
Meris2 | rafaellaguna, I'm back. Even though I have set Dutch to be the default language, all I can see is English, but I can live with that ;-) | 17:47 |
rafaellaguna | can you please open your .pam_environment file? | 17:48 |
rafaellaguna | it's hidden in your home | 17:49 |
Meris2 | rafaellaguna, thank you, here is my .pam_env... : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7826112/ | 17:50 |
Meris2 | No Swedish or Japanese there, only English and Dutch | 17:51 |
rafaellaguna | okay, pam not modified, odd | 17:51 |
rafaellaguna | change every en_US to nl_NL (1 and 2) | 17:51 |
Meris2 | I will and after that logout. logon again, right? | 17:52 |
rafaellaguna | yup :) | 17:52 |
Meris2 | rafaellaguna, gotta run again, thanks again for your help | 17:54 |
Meris2 | It works | 17:54 |
rafaellaguna | nice! | 17:55 |
Meris2 | Logging out ... .. . | 17:55 |
koell | noooo i missed rafaellaguna! :3 | 18:57 |
silverlion | koell : anything I can help you with? | 18:58 |
kuhilasv1ara | my fans are running at 100% speed and I want to make them run slower when it is not necessary | 18:59 |
kuhilasv1ara | http://askubuntu.com/questions/22108/how-to-control-fan-speed | 18:59 |
kuhilasv1ara | im following this guide to install fancontrol and lm-sensors | 18:59 |
kuhilasv1ara | Did you see/hear a fan stopping during the above test (n)? | 18:59 |
kuhilasv1ara | I'm getting those question when setting fancontrol.. I actually heard the fan go to slower speed, but not fully stop. Should I answer n? | 19:00 |
kuhilasv1ara | it might have stopped, if it was another fan that made the noise that was left | 19:00 |
kuhilasv1ara | Current temperature readings are as follows: | 19:05 |
kuhilasv1ara | hwmon0/device/temp1_input51 | 19:05 |
kuhilasv1ara | hwmon1/device/temp1_input49 | 19:05 |
kuhilasv1ara | hwmon1/device/temp2_input128 | 19:05 |
kuhilasv1ara | hwmon1/device/temp3_input39 | 19:05 |
kuhilasv1ara | 128=? | 19:05 |
phillw | koell: rafael should be back online in next hour or so. | 19:06 |
melodie | hi | 19:07 |
melodie | who has a question? | 19:07 |
phillw | !paste | kuhilasv1ara | 19:07 |
ubottu | kuhilasv1ara: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 19:07 |
silverlion | melodie : here's the backlog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7826459/ | 19:08 |
melodie | silverlion ok but who is the one who needs help? | 19:08 |
silverlion | kuhilasv1ara | 19:08 |
kuhilasv1ara | controlling fanspeeds seems really tricky | 19:09 |
phillw | melodie: also http://pastebin.com/9SaSsTe6 :) | 19:09 |
melodie | ok | 19:09 |
kuhilasv1ara | it spitted me 4 random temperature value which I have no idea what is what and then I should make decision upon it | 19:10 |
melodie | kuhilasv1ara have you tried to configure the cpufreq governor? if you cpu supports it, it could help (before doing something directly to the fan) | 19:12 |
melodie | kuhilasv1ara ????? | 19:13 |
melodie | ???????????? | 19:13 |
melodie | ??? | 19:13 |
kuhilasv1ara | I don't think so | 19:15 |
kuhilasv1ara | but I got my cpu fan to run at lower speed now when I just set some default values and chose the first option from that list of 4 diff temperatures. I guess I chose the right one | 19:16 |
melodie | then try it: install cpufreqd / cpufreq then you can configure it with a few commands I will provide you directly | 19:16 |
melodie | the cpu frequency when it can be adjusted is interesting because it will run at the right rate for the need: according to what resources the program you launch will need | 19:17 |
melodie | hence, the fan will start if the cpu heats and for relevant needs | 19:18 |
melodie | do you know what cpu has your machine? Is it a Celeron for instance? (they don't support cpufreq configuration) | 19:19 |
kuhilasv1ara | amd | 19:23 |
kuhilasv1ara | hmm ok maybe I try | 19:23 |
melodie | amd? | 19:24 |
melodie | not sure | 19:24 |
melodie | well, maybe | 19:24 |
melodie | I have an amd and that works here | 19:24 |
melodie | see? | 19:24 |
melodie | $ ls /usr/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/cpufreq/ | 19:24 |
melodie | acpi-cpufreq.ko.gz cpufreq_conservative.ko.gz cpufreq_stats.ko.gz p4-clockmod.ko.gz powernow-k8.ko.gz | 19:24 |
melodie | amd_freq_sensitivity.ko.gz cpufreq_powersave.ko.gz cpufreq_userspace.ko.gz pcc-cpufreq.ko.gz speedstep-lib.ko.gz | 19:24 |
kuhilasv1ara | http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30478113/k/temps_lubuntu01.PNG | 19:24 |
kuhilasv1ara | is that worrying that I have something 120C | 19:25 |
kuhilasv1ara | 128* | 19:26 |
kuhilasv1ara | but yea that cpu fre thing sounds really interesting. I 'm gonna google a bit on it | 19:27 |
kuhilasv1ara | freq | 19:27 |
melodie | kuhilasv1ara choose a good option: conservative is a good governor | 19:30 |
kuhilasv1ara | i installed cpufreqd, cpufrequtils and indicator-cpufreq, but when I run sudo cpufreqd, nothing happens | 19:38 |
kuhilasv1ara | myeah, when I run indicator-cpufreq, I get to choose those governors | 19:40 |
kuhilasv1ara | how can I observe some info on what frequency my cpu is running | 19:42 |
kuhilasv1ara | no matter if I choose 0.8GHz, the 3.2GHz gets selected. I can select powersave, conservative, and those though | 19:43 |
melodie | kuhilasv1ara wait wait | 19:44 |
melodie | cpufreqd is the daemon you have nothing to do with it, it runs, that's all | 19:45 |
melodie | as simple user type: cpufreq-info | 19:45 |
melodie | what do you see then? | 19:45 |
melodie | (I don't use gui tools for this program) | 19:46 |
kuhilasv1ara | 3 different CPUs and all of them says: current policy: frequency should be within 3.20 GHz and 3.20 GHz. | 19:46 |
kuhilasv1ara | The governor "userspace" may decide which speed to use | 19:46 |
kuhilasv1ara | within this range. | 19:46 |
kuhilasv1ara | current CPU frequency is 3.20 GHz. | 19:46 |
kuhilasv1ara | http://pastebin.com/wzL9fT4f | 19:48 |
melodie | kuhilasv1ara ok, wait a sec? | 19:48 |
kuhilasv1ara | ok | 19:48 |
melodie | kuhilasv1ara what governors are available? | 19:49 |
kuhilasv1ara | conservative, ondemand, powersave and performance | 19:49 |
melodie | ok wait a sec | 19:50 |
kuhilasv1ara | I have chosen "powersave" but still it says that 3.2ghz | 19:50 |
kuhilasv1ara | http://askubuntu.com/questions/455687/how-to-run-cpufreqd-in-ubuntu-14-04 | 19:50 |
kuhilasv1ara | someone maybe here have a similar problem, but no answer there for him. they ask his lsmod, and they think that modules are maybe not loaded | 19:50 |
melodie | kuhilasv1ara ok | 19:51 |
melodie | kuhilasv1ara you should choose conservative | 19:51 |
melodie | it adapts better to the need | 19:51 |
kuhilasv1ara | http://pastebin.com/D8RDZf4V | 19:52 |
kuhilasv1ara | sure, but it doesn't matter which I choose, because it cpufreq-info says 3.2GHz :( | 19:52 |
kuhilasv1ara | that is my lsmod, if someone can see if my modules are loaded | 19:52 |
melodie | which ranges are available? | 19:53 |
kuhilasv1ara | http://pastebin.com/wzL9fT4f frequency should be within 3.20 GHz and 3.20 GHz. | 19:54 |
melodie | modules have nothing to do with that as far as I know | 19:54 |
melodie | kuhilasv1ara ok: | 19:55 |
melodie | " The governor "userspace" may decide which speed to use | 19:55 |
melodie | within this range." | 19:55 |
melodie | try this : | 19:55 |
melodie | sudo cpufreq -g conservative | 19:56 |
kuhilasv1ara | sudo: cpufreq: command not found | 19:57 |
kuhilasv1ara | I didn't install that actually, just cpufreqd and utils and indicator | 19:57 |
kuhilasv1ara | I'll install | 19:57 |
melodie | hummm | 19:57 |
melodie | wait a sec | 19:57 |
kuhilasv1ara | or? | 19:57 |
melodie | I can't use it anymore as I used to in my distro : Archlinux, so I have to check :) | 19:58 |
melodie | just be patient a few seconds | 19:58 |
melodie | ok | 19:58 |
melodie | sudo cpufreq-set -g conservative | 19:58 |
melodie | that's it! | 19:58 |
kuhilasv1ara | ok, I did, but still the info says frequency should be within 3.20 GHz and 3.20 GHz | 20:01 |
melodie | then I suppose it does need that? | 20:02 |
melodie | try: | 20:02 |
melodie | sudo cpufreq-set -g powersave | 20:02 |
kuhilasv1ara | still that 3.2ghz | 20:05 |
melodie | what does cpufreq-info say now ? (as simple user) | 20:06 |
melodie | kuhilasv1ara I check also something | 20:07 |
kuhilasv1ara | http://pastebin.com/uPaRRphu | 20:08 |
melodie | your pastebin has this: | 20:09 |
melodie | driver: acpi-cpufreq | 20:09 |
melodie | see if it is loaded: | 20:09 |
melodie | lsmod | grep acpi | 20:09 |
kuhilasv1ara | pata_acpi 13038 0 | 20:10 |
kuhilasv1ara | here's my lsmod http://pastebin.com/D8RDZf4V | 20:10 |
melodie | no need | 20:10 |
melodie | grep filters with the suite of characters provided on the command line | 20:11 |
melodie | see here: | 20:11 |
melodie | http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=acpi-&searchon=names&suite=trusty§ion=all | 20:11 |
melodie | perhaps installing the first one would help? | 20:11 |
kuhilasv1ara | I installed acpi-support and tried lsmod | grep acpi but only pata_acpi there. Do I need to restart some daemons or things | 20:13 |
melodie | just | 20:14 |
melodie | kuhilasv1ara just load it: | 20:14 |
melodie | sudo modprobe acpi-cpufreq (try it) | 20:14 |
kuhilasv1ara | I tried that and nothing happened so as if it loaded, but lsmod | grep acpi still only shows pata_acpi | 20:15 |
kuhilasv1ara | or what is supposed to happen when do sudo modprobe acpi-cpufreq ? :) | 20:17 |
kuhilasv1ara | thanks a lot for thel help but maybe I have a bigger problem here :I | 20:18 |
kuhilasv1ara | damn.. I would really love to lower the cpu freq though | 20:20 |
phillw | kuhilasv1ara: the key word is "patience"... You do not know just how tenacious melodie is... She will work with you to sort this out. | 20:21 |
kuhilasv1ara | cool | 20:22 |
melodie | kuhilasv1ara yes it's frustrating when we can't find the solution at once, I know what it is really | 20:23 |
melodie | have you tried this "sudo modprobe acpi-cpufreq" ? | 20:24 |
kuhilasv1ara | yyeah, nothing happens | 20:24 |
kuhilasv1ara | when I do that | 20:24 |
melodie | phillw I'm also struggling against my teen son who persists talking in Skype! :-( | 20:24 |
kuhilasv1ara | heh | 20:25 |
melodie | I have a console with ssh and kill a few processes here and then to keep him quiter, but only makes it worse! | 20:25 |
kuhilasv1ara | :) :( | 20:25 |
melodie | yeh yeh, you can laugh! :D | 20:25 |
phillw | melodie: kill -9 son ? | 20:26 |
melodie | :p | 20:27 |
melodie | apt-get remove --purge skype | 20:27 |
melodie | XD | 20:27 |
phillw | melodie: or, apt-get remove --purge teen-age_son | 20:28 |
melodie | kuhilasv1ara what cpu is your's exactly? Does it support acpi? Is acpi activated in your bios? | 20:28 |
melodie | phillw I might send him back to his father's :p | 20:28 |
kuhilasv1ara | model name : AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor | 20:29 |
kuhilasv1ara | no acpi in cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep acpi | 20:32 |
kuhilasv1ara | some people have acpi in flags there | 20:32 |
kuhilasv1ara | I don't know if this supports acpi or if it is activated in bios. I guess I shuld boot to bios to check | 20:33 |
melodie | kuhilasv1ara you might have to. I look in my own cpuinfo and will tell you right on if I have that as a flag | 20:34 |
melodie | $ grep acpi /proc/cpuinfo | 20:34 |
melodie | $ | 20:34 |
melodie | kuhilasv1ara I don't eithe | 20:35 |
melodie | either | 20:35 |
kuhilasv1ara | ok | 20:35 |
kuhilasv1ara | I wonder if I can find in bios the info, if acpi is activated.. I have no idea what acpi is really and where to look for it there | 20:35 |
phillw | kuhilasv1ara: what make / model computer do you have? I can do some digging for you. | 20:37 |
kuhilasv1ara | if I find it in bios, should I change its state if it is activated or deactivated? | 20:37 |
kuhilasv1ara | hmhm.. own built computer.. I don't remember the parts very well | 20:37 |
melodie | kuhilasv1ara the bios might contain acpi enabled or not, you can check, it won't harm | 20:37 |
kuhilasv1ara | if it is disabled, you want me to change it to eanbled? if it is enabled, should I change it to disabled? | 20:38 |
melodie | if you find it in the bios and if it is not activated, activate it | 20:38 |
melodie | it has to be anabled | 20:38 |
melodie | enabled* | 20:38 |
kuhilasv1ara | ok | 20:38 |
phillw | kuhilasv1ara: also, please state which version of BIOS you are running (both make and version number) | 20:39 |
kuhilasv1ara | military class n1996 msi | 20:39 |
kuhilasv1ara | says on motherboard | 20:39 |
kuhilasv1ara | when I boot to bios, I can find that info from somewhere I guess | 20:40 |
phillw | yup, it should be there if you go digging about :) | 20:40 |
kuhilasv1ara | auto oc genie overclocking | 20:40 |
kuhilasv1ara | I boot and check | 20:41 |
kuhilasv1ara | -> | 20:41 |
teward | what controls the standby timer, the timer that puts the system to sleep after certain amounts of inactivity, in Lubuntu? | 20:52 |
teward | I'm trying to turn that function off so that the system in question doesn't go into hibernate, and also doesn't turn off the screen | 20:52 |
melodie | teward some setting related to xscreensaver | 20:56 |
kuhilasv1ara | teward yea there is a bug in controlling that. I only got that deactivated by editing the grub adding some line at the end of the boot option somethingsomething=0 there | 20:56 |
melodie | kuhilasv1ara ?o? | 20:57 |
teward | kuhilasv1ara, is the bug reported/documented anywhere? | 20:57 |
kuhilasv1ara | melodie: acpi is and was enabled in bios. Bios is v17.7 090910 | 20:57 |
kuhilasv1ara | I remember people talking about it as a bug | 20:57 |
melodie | tertu what about just removing xscreensaver? | 20:57 |
kuhilasv1ara | on some forum on internet | 20:57 |
melodie | kuhilasv1ara ok, I have no more answer for you, at least for now. | 20:58 |
tertu | oh i am not that t | 20:58 |
kuhilasv1ara | ok, thanks for helping. I inspect it more later | 20:58 |
melodie | kuhilasv1ara perhaps you check what features the kernel you have now allows for? | 20:58 |
kuhilasv1ara | ok | 20:58 |
melodie | kuhilasv1ara such as "grep ACPI /boot/config*" ? | 21:00 |
melodie | without the quotes of course and as simple user) | 21:00 |
kuhilasv1ara | lots of stuff there http://pastebin.com/KJVKJdm8 | 21:02 |
kuhilasv1ara | btw, when I rebooted, did the cpufreqd daemon start automatically? | 21:03 |
kuhilasv1ara | in/cpufreqd -f /etc/cpufreqd.conf ..this is ps -aux | grep cpu | 21:04 |
kuhilasv1ara | guess so then | 21:05 |
melodie | as simple user: | 21:05 |
melodie | ps ax | grep cpufreqd | 21:05 |
kuhilasv1ara | hmm ok. yes its there | 21:06 |
melodie | ok :) | 21:06 |
kuhilasv1ara | teward: in /etc/default/grub if you have GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="nomodeset consoleblank=0" u'd get what you want probably | 21:11 |
kuhilasv1ara | https://encrypted.google.com/#q=nomodeset+consoleblank%3D0 | 21:12 |
kuhilasv1ara | well, someone else also used that method where I got it | 21:13 |
kuhilasv1ara | not many there tho | 21:13 |
melodie | kuhilasv1ara using grub config to tweak the hibernation behavior? that's strange (and too close to the base system imho) | 21:13 |
kuhilasv1ara | oh wait that nomodeset is there for other purposes, remove that from the google search | 21:14 |
kuhilasv1ara | ye.. well try remove your screesaver and blank screen after x minutes of idle on lubuntu 13 or 14 and it seems quite hard otherwise | 21:15 |
phillw | kuhilasv1ara: there is bug 1326740 which thankfully, should soon be rolled out | 21:16 |
ubottu | bug 1326740 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu Utopic) "[SRU] Please backport xfce4-power-manager 1.2.0-3ubuntu6 to trusty" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1326740 | 21:16 |
melodie | then apt-get remove xfce4-power-manager ? | 21:23 |
melodie | he he! | 21:23 |
melodie | --purge (forgot) | 21:24 |
melodie | good night | 21:52 |
josiah14 | I couldn't find this answer anywhere online | 22:41 |
josiah14 | which executable does lxpanel use for volume management? | 22:42 |
josiah14 | I run i3 and try to keep my system lean by not running many LXDE programs, but I'm forced right now into running lxpanel because I have no other way of controlling voluem | 22:42 |
josiah14 | unless of course I install something else, but I already have that applet, so | 22:43 |
rambo123456` | Hey guys.. I installed lubuntu as a virtualbox guest. is it possible to play an mp3 file on it? | 22:47 |
josiah14 | ah, nevermind, I just discovered alsamixer | 22:47 |
josiah14 | yay terminal apps | 22:47 |
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