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nacho20uhola problemas con el wifi en lununtu 14.04 placa realtek hay solucion?01:04
nacho20ualguien sabe como agregar terminal,browser y leafpad en panel lxde?02:43
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phillwrafaellaguna: (15:39:28) Meris2 [~NA@2001:982:2365:1:c1b:3029:8ee8:f137] entered the room. (CET -1 hour)16:39
rafaellaguna:)16:39
rafaellaguna:(16:39
phillw~ 2 hours ago16:39
rafaellagunaoh yes, didn't see him16:39
rafaellagunaMeris2, hello16:40
rafaellagunaðÐþpÄØ16:45
rafaellagunaoops, sorry16:45
Meris2rafaellaguna, Sorry about yesterday,17:23
rafaellagunano, I'm sorry, my pc rebooted 5 times and didn't want to start again17:23
rafaellagunahow can I help you?17:24
Meris2rafaellaguna, my lubuntu 14.04 is a jumbled mess when it comes to languages17:24
rafaellagunawhy?17:25
Meris2rafaellaguna, my default language (used right now) is Dutch, but my dialog screens (including the one of X-Chat) are in Swedish and my install messages used by apt are in Japanese17:26
rafaellagunaO_o17:26
Meris2This is a default clean install, without any ppa's or config. file hacking17:27
rafaellagunaI have to ask. did you tried to remove the language packs (except dutch)?17:27
rafaellagunaEnglish install?17:27
Meris2rafaellaguna, not yet, because I need them daily, both for UI (ext. support reasons) and IME (Japanese, umlauts used by Swedish)17:28
rafaellagunaI can type Swedish with a Spanish keyboard17:30
rafaellagunajust using Win as compose key17:30
rafaellagunabut obviously you have a residual configuration there17:30
Meris2rafaellaguna, yes, by using UTF-8 intnl. with dead keys (Alt-Gr), like I use right now. For Western languages, that's all I need.17:31
Meris2Japanese is impossible without proper IME support though17:31
rafaellagunamessages in terminal only are in Japanese if you install kohi-mincho fonts17:31
rafaellagunaindeed, you need ibus or fcitx17:31
Meris2I use ibus myself, yes17:32
rafaellagunait's very very strange, is it a second setup over another?17:32
Meris2rafaellaguna, no, it's a vanilla install without any hacks whatsoever.17:32
rafaellagunaso no fonts cache as guilty :)17:33
rafaellagunatry to remove al languages with Language Support17:33
rafaellagunaare you using Ubuntu or Lubuntu?17:33
Meris2It *is* a multiboot system alongside MacOSX sing ReFIT, but that level should not be accountable.17:33
rafaellagunadoesn't matter17:33
Meris2rafaellaguna, I'm using Lubuntu 14.0417:33
Meris2At home in Amsterdam I'm using Ubuntu, with exactly the same Language anomalies17:34
rafaellagunado you know any exorcist?17:35
rafaellagunathis is incredible17:35
rafaellagunatry this: first keep your system with ONE language only17:35
rafaellagunaif needed clear the fonts cache (use fc-cache -rv )17:36
Meris2rafaellaguna, before or after the language removal?17:36
rafaellagunaclean before17:36
rafaellagunathen add, for testing, a language that doesn't need keyboard layout (English, e.g.)17:37
Meris2rafaellaguna, fc-cache: succeeded17:42
rafaellagunayou should logout and ensure you choose Dutch in your new (L)Ubuntu session, as it's the setup language17:43
rafaellagunado it and come back, all your apps should be in Dutch only, including your terminals17:43
Meris2rafaellaguna, removed all language support except Dutch17:44
rafaellagunanice17:44
Meris2brb, after logout/ logon17:45
rafaellagunaok17:45
Meris2rafaellaguna, I'm back. Even though I have set Dutch to be the default language, all I can see is English, but I can live with that ;-)17:47
rafaellagunacan  you please open your .pam_environment file?17:48
rafaellagunait's hidden in your home17:49
Meris2rafaellaguna, thank you, here is my .pam_env... : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7826112/17:50
Meris2No Swedish or Japanese there, only English and Dutch17:51
rafaellagunaokay, pam not modified, odd17:51
rafaellagunachange every en_US to nl_NL (1 and 2)17:51
Meris2I will and after that logout. logon again, right?17:52
rafaellagunayup :)17:52
Meris2rafaellaguna,  gotta run again, thanks again for your help17:54
Meris2It works17:54
rafaellagunanice!17:55
Meris2Logging out ... .. .17:55
koellnoooo i missed rafaellaguna! :318:57
silverlionkoell : anything I can help you with?18:58
kuhilasv1aramy fans are running at 100% speed and I want to make them run slower when it is not necessary18:59
kuhilasv1arahttp://askubuntu.com/questions/22108/how-to-control-fan-speed18:59
kuhilasv1araim following this guide to install fancontrol and lm-sensors18:59
kuhilasv1araDid you see/hear a fan stopping during the above test (n)?18:59
kuhilasv1araI'm getting those question when setting fancontrol.. I actually heard the fan go to slower speed, but not fully stop. Should I answer n?19:00
kuhilasv1arait might have stopped, if it was another fan that made the noise that was left19:00
kuhilasv1araCurrent temperature readings are as follows:19:05
kuhilasv1arahwmon0/device/temp1_input5119:05
kuhilasv1arahwmon1/device/temp1_input4919:05
kuhilasv1arahwmon1/device/temp2_input12819:05
kuhilasv1arahwmon1/device/temp3_input3919:05
kuhilasv1ara128=?19:05
phillwkoell: rafael should be back online in next hour or so.19:06
melodiehi19:07
melodiewho has a question?19:07
phillw!paste | kuhilasv1ara19:07
ubottukuhilasv1ara: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.19:07
silverlionmelodie : here's the backlog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7826459/19:08
melodiesilverlion ok but who is the one who needs help?19:08
silverlionkuhilasv1ara19:08
kuhilasv1aracontrolling fanspeeds seems really tricky19:09
phillwmelodie: also http://pastebin.com/9SaSsTe6 :)19:09
melodieok19:09
kuhilasv1arait spitted me 4 random temperature value which I have no idea what is what and then I should make decision upon it19:10
melodiekuhilasv1ara have you tried to configure the cpufreq governor? if you cpu supports it, it could help (before doing something directly to the fan)19:12
melodiekuhilasv1ara ?????19:13
melodie????????????19:13
melodie???19:13
kuhilasv1araI don't think so19:15
kuhilasv1arabut I got my cpu fan to run at lower speed now when I just set some default values and chose the first option from that list of 4 diff temperatures. I guess I chose the right one19:16
melodiethen try it: install cpufreqd / cpufreq then you can configure it with a few commands I will provide you directly19:16
melodiethe cpu frequency when it can be adjusted is interesting because it will run at the right rate for the need: according to what resources the program you launch will need19:17
melodiehence, the fan will start if the cpu heats and for relevant needs19:18
melodiedo you know what cpu has your machine? Is it a Celeron for instance? (they don't support cpufreq configuration)19:19
kuhilasv1araamd19:23
kuhilasv1arahmm ok maybe I try19:23
melodieamd?19:24
melodienot sure19:24
melodiewell, maybe19:24
melodieI have an amd and that works here19:24
melodiesee?19:24
melodie$ ls /usr/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/cpufreq/19:24
melodieacpi-cpufreq.ko.gz          cpufreq_conservative.ko.gz  cpufreq_stats.ko.gz      p4-clockmod.ko.gz  powernow-k8.ko.gz19:24
melodieamd_freq_sensitivity.ko.gz  cpufreq_powersave.ko.gz     cpufreq_userspace.ko.gz  pcc-cpufreq.ko.gz  speedstep-lib.ko.gz19:24
kuhilasv1arahttp://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30478113/k/temps_lubuntu01.PNG19:24
kuhilasv1arais that worrying that I have something 120C19:25
kuhilasv1ara128*19:26
kuhilasv1arabut yea that cpu fre thing sounds really interesting. I 'm gonna google a bit on it19:27
kuhilasv1arafreq19:27
melodiekuhilasv1ara choose a good option: conservative is a good governor19:30
kuhilasv1arai installed cpufreqd, cpufrequtils and indicator-cpufreq, but when I run sudo cpufreqd, nothing happens19:38
kuhilasv1aramyeah, when I run indicator-cpufreq, I get to choose those governors19:40
kuhilasv1arahow can I observe some info on what frequency my cpu is running19:42
kuhilasv1arano matter if I choose 0.8GHz, the 3.2GHz gets selected. I can select powersave, conservative, and those though19:43
melodiekuhilasv1ara wait wait19:44
melodiecpufreqd is the daemon you have nothing to do with it, it runs, that's all19:45
melodieas simple user type: cpufreq-info19:45
melodiewhat do you see then?19:45
melodie(I don't use gui tools for this program)19:46
kuhilasv1ara3 different CPUs and all of them says:  current policy: frequency should be within 3.20 GHz and 3.20 GHz.19:46
kuhilasv1ara                  The governor "userspace" may decide which speed to use19:46
kuhilasv1ara                  within this range.19:46
kuhilasv1ara  current CPU frequency is 3.20 GHz.19:46
kuhilasv1arahttp://pastebin.com/wzL9fT4f19:48
melodiekuhilasv1ara ok, wait a sec?19:48
kuhilasv1araok19:48
melodiekuhilasv1ara what governors are available?19:49
kuhilasv1araconservative, ondemand, powersave and performance19:49
melodieok wait a sec19:50
kuhilasv1araI have chosen "powersave" but still it says that 3.2ghz19:50
kuhilasv1arahttp://askubuntu.com/questions/455687/how-to-run-cpufreqd-in-ubuntu-14-0419:50
kuhilasv1arasomeone maybe here have a similar problem, but no answer there for him. they ask his lsmod, and they think that modules are maybe not loaded19:50
melodiekuhilasv1ara ok19:51
melodiekuhilasv1ara you should choose conservative19:51
melodieit adapts better to the need19:51
kuhilasv1arahttp://pastebin.com/D8RDZf4V19:52
kuhilasv1arasure, but it doesn't matter which I choose, because it cpufreq-info says 3.2GHz :(19:52
kuhilasv1arathat is my lsmod, if someone can see if my modules are loaded19:52
melodiewhich ranges are available?19:53
kuhilasv1arahttp://pastebin.com/wzL9fT4f frequency should be within 3.20 GHz and 3.20 GHz.19:54
melodiemodules have nothing to do with that as far as I know19:54
melodiekuhilasv1ara ok:19:55
melodie"  The governor "userspace" may decide which speed to use19:55
melodie                  within this range."19:55
melodietry this :19:55
melodiesudo cpufreq -g conservative19:56
kuhilasv1arasudo: cpufreq: command not found19:57
kuhilasv1araI didn't install that actually, just cpufreqd and utils and indicator19:57
kuhilasv1araI'll install19:57
melodiehummm19:57
melodiewait a sec19:57
kuhilasv1araor?19:57
melodieI can't use it anymore as  I used to in my distro : Archlinux, so I have to check :)19:58
melodiejust be patient a few seconds19:58
melodieok19:58
melodiesudo cpufreq-set -g conservative19:58
melodiethat's it!19:58
kuhilasv1araok, I did, but still the info says frequency should be within 3.20 GHz and 3.20 GHz20:01
melodiethen I suppose it does need that?20:02
melodietry:20:02
melodiesudo cpufreq-set -g powersave20:02
kuhilasv1arastill that 3.2ghz20:05
melodiewhat does cpufreq-info say now ? (as simple user)20:06
melodiekuhilasv1ara I check also something20:07
kuhilasv1arahttp://pastebin.com/uPaRRphu20:08
melodieyour pastebin has this:20:09
melodiedriver: acpi-cpufreq20:09
melodiesee if it is loaded:20:09
melodielsmod | grep acpi20:09
kuhilasv1arapata_acpi              13038  020:10
kuhilasv1arahere's my lsmod http://pastebin.com/D8RDZf4V20:10
melodieno need20:10
melodiegrep filters with the suite of characters provided on the command line20:11
melodiesee here:20:11
melodiehttp://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=acpi-&searchon=names&suite=trusty&section=all20:11
melodieperhaps installing the first one would help?20:11
kuhilasv1araI installed acpi-support and tried lsmod | grep acpi but only pata_acpi there. Do I need to restart some daemons or things20:13
melodiejust20:14
melodiekuhilasv1ara just load it:20:14
melodiesudo modprobe acpi-cpufreq (try it)20:14
kuhilasv1araI tried that and nothing happened so as if it loaded, but lsmod | grep acpi still only shows pata_acpi20:15
kuhilasv1araor what is supposed to happen when do sudo modprobe acpi-cpufreq ? :)20:17
kuhilasv1arathanks a lot for thel help but maybe I have a bigger problem here :I20:18
kuhilasv1aradamn.. I would really love to lower the cpu freq though20:20
phillwkuhilasv1ara: the key word is "patience"... You do not know just how tenacious melodie is... She will work with you to sort this out.20:21
kuhilasv1aracool20:22
melodiekuhilasv1ara yes it's frustrating when we can't find the solution at once, I know what it is really20:23
melodiehave you tried this "sudo modprobe acpi-cpufreq" ?20:24
kuhilasv1arayyeah, nothing happens20:24
kuhilasv1arawhen I do that20:24
melodiephillw I'm also struggling against my teen son who persists talking in Skype! :-(20:24
kuhilasv1araheh20:25
melodieI have a console with ssh and kill a few processes here and then to keep him quiter, but only makes it worse!20:25
kuhilasv1ara:) :(20:25
melodieyeh yeh, you can laugh! :D20:25
phillwmelodie:  kill -9 son ?20:26
melodie:p20:27
melodieapt-get remove --purge skype20:27
melodieXD20:27
phillwmelodie: or,  apt-get remove --purge teen-age_son20:28
melodiekuhilasv1ara what cpu is your's exactly? Does it support acpi? Is acpi activated in your bios?20:28
melodiephillw I might send him back to his father's :p20:28
kuhilasv1aramodel name      : AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor20:29
kuhilasv1arano acpi in cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep acpi20:32
kuhilasv1arasome people have acpi in flags there20:32
kuhilasv1araI don't know if this supports acpi or if it is activated in bios. I guess I shuld boot to bios to check20:33
melodiekuhilasv1ara you might have to. I look in my own cpuinfo and will tell you right on if I have that as a flag20:34
melodie$ grep acpi /proc/cpuinfo20:34
melodie$20:34
melodiekuhilasv1ara I don't eithe20:35
melodieeither20:35
kuhilasv1araok20:35
kuhilasv1araI wonder if I can find in bios the info, if acpi is activated.. I have no idea what acpi is really and where to look for it there20:35
phillwkuhilasv1ara: what make / model computer do you have? I can do some digging for you.20:37
kuhilasv1araif I find it in bios, should I change its state if it is activated or deactivated?20:37
kuhilasv1arahmhm.. own built computer.. I don't remember the parts very well20:37
melodiekuhilasv1ara the bios might contain acpi enabled or not, you can check, it won't harm20:37
kuhilasv1araif it is disabled, you want me to change it to eanbled? if it is enabled, should I change it to disabled?20:38
melodieif you find it in the bios and if it is not activated, activate it20:38
melodieit has to be anabled20:38
melodieenabled*20:38
kuhilasv1araok20:38
phillwkuhilasv1ara: also, please state which version of BIOS you are running (both make and version number)20:39
kuhilasv1aramilitary class n1996 msi20:39
kuhilasv1arasays on motherboard20:39
kuhilasv1arawhen I boot to bios, I can find that info from somewhere I guess20:40
phillwyup, it should be there if you go digging about :)20:40
kuhilasv1araauto oc genie overclocking20:40
kuhilasv1araI boot and check20:41
kuhilasv1ara->20:41
tewardwhat controls the standby timer, the timer that puts the system to sleep after certain amounts of inactivity, in Lubuntu?20:52
tewardI'm trying to turn that function off so that the system in question doesn't go into hibernate, and also doesn't turn off the screen20:52
melodieteward some setting related to xscreensaver20:56
kuhilasv1arateward yea there is a bug in controlling that. I only got that deactivated by editing the grub adding some line at the end of the boot option somethingsomething=0 there20:56
melodiekuhilasv1ara ?o?20:57
tewardkuhilasv1ara, is the bug reported/documented anywhere?20:57
kuhilasv1aramelodie: acpi is and was enabled in bios. Bios is v17.7 09091020:57
kuhilasv1araI remember people talking about it as a bug20:57
melodietertu what about just removing xscreensaver?20:57
kuhilasv1araon some forum on internet20:57
melodiekuhilasv1ara ok, I have no more answer for you, at least for now.20:58
tertuoh i am not that t20:58
kuhilasv1araok, thanks for helping. I inspect it more later20:58
melodiekuhilasv1ara perhaps you check what features the kernel you have now allows for?20:58
kuhilasv1araok20:58
melodiekuhilasv1ara such as "grep ACPI /boot/config*" ?21:00
melodiewithout the quotes of course and as simple user)21:00
kuhilasv1aralots of stuff there http://pastebin.com/KJVKJdm821:02
kuhilasv1arabtw, when I rebooted, did the cpufreqd daemon start automatically?21:03
kuhilasv1arain/cpufreqd -f /etc/cpufreqd.conf ..this is ps -aux | grep cpu21:04
kuhilasv1araguess so then21:05
melodieas simple user:21:05
melodieps ax | grep cpufreqd21:05
kuhilasv1arahmm ok. yes its there21:06
melodieok :)21:06
kuhilasv1arateward: in /etc/default/grub if you have GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="nomodeset consoleblank=0" u'd get what you want probably21:11
kuhilasv1ara https://encrypted.google.com/#q=nomodeset+consoleblank%3D021:12
kuhilasv1arawell, someone else also used that method where I got it21:13
kuhilasv1aranot many there tho21:13
melodiekuhilasv1ara using grub config to tweak the hibernation behavior? that's strange (and too close to the base system imho)21:13
kuhilasv1araoh wait that nomodeset is there for other purposes, remove that from the google search21:14
kuhilasv1araye.. well try remove your screesaver and blank screen after x minutes of idle on lubuntu 13 or 14 and it seems quite hard otherwise21:15
phillwkuhilasv1ara: there is bug 1326740 which thankfully, should soon be rolled out21:16
ubottubug 1326740 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu Utopic) "[SRU] Please backport xfce4-power-manager 1.2.0-3ubuntu6 to trusty" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132674021:16
melodiethen apt-get remove xfce4-power-manager ?21:23
melodiehe he!21:23
melodie--purge (forgot)21:24
melodiegood night21:52
josiah14I couldn't find this answer anywhere online22:41
josiah14which executable does lxpanel use for volume management?22:42
josiah14I run i3 and try to keep my system lean by not running many LXDE programs, but I'm forced right now into running lxpanel because I have no other way of controlling voluem22:42
josiah14unless of course I install something else, but I already have that applet, so22:43
rambo123456`Hey guys.. I installed lubuntu as a virtualbox guest.  is it possible to play an mp3 file on it?22:47
josiah14ah, nevermind, I just discovered alsamixer22:47
josiah14yay terminal apps22:47

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