[01:04] hola problemas con el wifi en lununtu 14.04 placa realtek hay solucion? [02:43] alguien sabe como agregar terminal,browser y leafpad en panel lxde? [02:48] !ar [02:48] La comunidad local de Argentina se puede encontrar en #ubuntu-ar y en su canal de offtopic: #ubuntu-ar-cafe [16:39] rafaellaguna: (15:39:28) Meris2 [~NA@2001:982:2365:1:c1b:3029:8ee8:f137] entered the room. (CET -1 hour) [16:39] :) [16:39] :( [16:39] ~ 2 hours ago [16:39] oh yes, didn't see him [16:40] Meris2, hello [16:45] ðÐþpÄØ [16:45] oops, sorry [17:23] rafaellaguna, Sorry about yesterday, [17:23] no, I'm sorry, my pc rebooted 5 times and didn't want to start again [17:24] how can I help you? [17:24] rafaellaguna, my lubuntu 14.04 is a jumbled mess when it comes to languages [17:25] why? [17:26] rafaellaguna, my default language (used right now) is Dutch, but my dialog screens (including the one of X-Chat) are in Swedish and my install messages used by apt are in Japanese [17:26] O_o [17:27] This is a default clean install, without any ppa's or config. file hacking [17:27] I have to ask. did you tried to remove the language packs (except dutch)? [17:27] English install? [17:28] rafaellaguna, not yet, because I need them daily, both for UI (ext. support reasons) and IME (Japanese, umlauts used by Swedish) [17:30] I can type Swedish with a Spanish keyboard [17:30] just using Win as compose key [17:30] but obviously you have a residual configuration there [17:31] rafaellaguna, yes, by using UTF-8 intnl. with dead keys (Alt-Gr), like I use right now. For Western languages, that's all I need. [17:31] Japanese is impossible without proper IME support though [17:31] messages in terminal only are in Japanese if you install kohi-mincho fonts [17:31] indeed, you need ibus or fcitx [17:32] I use ibus myself, yes [17:32] it's very very strange, is it a second setup over another? [17:32] rafaellaguna, no, it's a vanilla install without any hacks whatsoever. [17:33] so no fonts cache as guilty :) [17:33] try to remove al languages with Language Support [17:33] are you using Ubuntu or Lubuntu? [17:33] It *is* a multiboot system alongside MacOSX sing ReFIT, but that level should not be accountable. [17:33] doesn't matter [17:33] rafaellaguna, I'm using Lubuntu 14.04 [17:34] At home in Amsterdam I'm using Ubuntu, with exactly the same Language anomalies [17:35] do you know any exorcist? [17:35] this is incredible [17:35] try this: first keep your system with ONE language only [17:36] if needed clear the fonts cache (use fc-cache -rv ) [17:36] rafaellaguna, before or after the language removal? [17:36] clean before [17:37] then add, for testing, a language that doesn't need keyboard layout (English, e.g.) [17:42] rafaellaguna, fc-cache: succeeded [17:43] you should logout and ensure you choose Dutch in your new (L)Ubuntu session, as it's the setup language [17:43] do it and come back, all your apps should be in Dutch only, including your terminals [17:44] rafaellaguna, removed all language support except Dutch [17:44] nice [17:45] brb, after logout/ logon [17:45] ok [17:47] rafaellaguna, I'm back. Even though I have set Dutch to be the default language, all I can see is English, but I can live with that ;-) [17:48] can you please open your .pam_environment file? [17:49] it's hidden in your home [17:50] rafaellaguna, thank you, here is my .pam_env... : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7826112/ [17:51] No Swedish or Japanese there, only English and Dutch [17:51] okay, pam not modified, odd [17:51] change every en_US to nl_NL (1 and 2) [17:52] I will and after that logout. logon again, right? [17:52] yup :) [17:54] rafaellaguna, gotta run again, thanks again for your help [17:54] It works [17:55] nice! [17:55] Logging out ... .. . [18:57] noooo i missed rafaellaguna! :3 [18:58] koell : anything I can help you with? [18:59] my fans are running at 100% speed and I want to make them run slower when it is not necessary [18:59] http://askubuntu.com/questions/22108/how-to-control-fan-speed [18:59] im following this guide to install fancontrol and lm-sensors [18:59] Did you see/hear a fan stopping during the above test (n)? [19:00] I'm getting those question when setting fancontrol.. I actually heard the fan go to slower speed, but not fully stop. Should I answer n? [19:00] it might have stopped, if it was another fan that made the noise that was left [19:05] Current temperature readings are as follows: [19:05] hwmon0/device/temp1_input 51 [19:05] hwmon1/device/temp1_input 49 [19:05] hwmon1/device/temp2_input 128 [19:05] hwmon1/device/temp3_input 39 [19:05] 128=? [19:06] koell: rafael should be back online in next hour or so. [19:07] hi [19:07] who has a question? [19:07] !paste | kuhilasv1ara [19:07] kuhilasv1ara: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [19:08] melodie : here's the backlog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7826459/ [19:08] silverlion ok but who is the one who needs help? [19:08] kuhilasv1ara [19:09] controlling fanspeeds seems really tricky [19:09] melodie: also http://pastebin.com/9SaSsTe6 :) [19:09] ok [19:10] it spitted me 4 random temperature value which I have no idea what is what and then I should make decision upon it [19:12] kuhilasv1ara have you tried to configure the cpufreq governor? if you cpu supports it, it could help (before doing something directly to the fan) [19:13] kuhilasv1ara ????? [19:13] ???????????? [19:13] ??? [19:15] I don't think so [19:16] but I got my cpu fan to run at lower speed now when I just set some default values and chose the first option from that list of 4 diff temperatures. I guess I chose the right one [19:16] then try it: install cpufreqd / cpufreq then you can configure it with a few commands I will provide you directly [19:17] the cpu frequency when it can be adjusted is interesting because it will run at the right rate for the need: according to what resources the program you launch will need [19:18] hence, the fan will start if the cpu heats and for relevant needs [19:19] do you know what cpu has your machine? Is it a Celeron for instance? (they don't support cpufreq configuration) [19:23] amd [19:23] hmm ok maybe I try [19:24] amd? [19:24] not sure [19:24] well, maybe [19:24] I have an amd and that works here [19:24] see? [19:24] $ ls /usr/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/cpufreq/ [19:24] acpi-cpufreq.ko.gz cpufreq_conservative.ko.gz cpufreq_stats.ko.gz p4-clockmod.ko.gz powernow-k8.ko.gz [19:24] amd_freq_sensitivity.ko.gz cpufreq_powersave.ko.gz cpufreq_userspace.ko.gz pcc-cpufreq.ko.gz speedstep-lib.ko.gz [19:24] http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30478113/k/temps_lubuntu01.PNG [19:25] is that worrying that I have something 120C [19:26] 128* [19:27] but yea that cpu fre thing sounds really interesting. I 'm gonna google a bit on it [19:27] freq [19:30] kuhilasv1ara choose a good option: conservative is a good governor [19:38] i installed cpufreqd, cpufrequtils and indicator-cpufreq, but when I run sudo cpufreqd, nothing happens [19:40] myeah, when I run indicator-cpufreq, I get to choose those governors [19:42] how can I observe some info on what frequency my cpu is running [19:43] no matter if I choose 0.8GHz, the 3.2GHz gets selected. I can select powersave, conservative, and those though [19:44] kuhilasv1ara wait wait [19:45] cpufreqd is the daemon you have nothing to do with it, it runs, that's all [19:45] as simple user type: cpufreq-info [19:45] what do you see then? [19:46] (I don't use gui tools for this program) [19:46] 3 different CPUs and all of them says: current policy: frequency should be within 3.20 GHz and 3.20 GHz. [19:46] The governor "userspace" may decide which speed to use [19:46] within this range. [19:46] current CPU frequency is 3.20 GHz. [19:48] http://pastebin.com/wzL9fT4f [19:48] kuhilasv1ara ok, wait a sec? [19:48] ok [19:49] kuhilasv1ara what governors are available? [19:49] conservative, ondemand, powersave and performance [19:50] ok wait a sec [19:50] I have chosen "powersave" but still it says that 3.2ghz [19:50] http://askubuntu.com/questions/455687/how-to-run-cpufreqd-in-ubuntu-14-04 [19:50] someone maybe here have a similar problem, but no answer there for him. they ask his lsmod, and they think that modules are maybe not loaded [19:51] kuhilasv1ara ok [19:51] kuhilasv1ara you should choose conservative [19:51] it adapts better to the need [19:52] http://pastebin.com/D8RDZf4V [19:52] sure, but it doesn't matter which I choose, because it cpufreq-info says 3.2GHz :( [19:52] that is my lsmod, if someone can see if my modules are loaded [19:53] which ranges are available? [19:54] http://pastebin.com/wzL9fT4f frequency should be within 3.20 GHz and 3.20 GHz. [19:54] modules have nothing to do with that as far as I know [19:55] kuhilasv1ara ok: [19:55] " The governor "userspace" may decide which speed to use [19:55] within this range." [19:55] try this : [19:56] sudo cpufreq -g conservative [19:57] sudo: cpufreq: command not found [19:57] I didn't install that actually, just cpufreqd and utils and indicator [19:57] I'll install [19:57] hummm [19:57] wait a sec [19:57] or? [19:58] I can't use it anymore as I used to in my distro : Archlinux, so I have to check :) [19:58] just be patient a few seconds [19:58] ok [19:58] sudo cpufreq-set -g conservative [19:58] that's it! [20:01] ok, I did, but still the info says frequency should be within 3.20 GHz and 3.20 GHz [20:02] then I suppose it does need that? [20:02] try: [20:02] sudo cpufreq-set -g powersave [20:05] still that 3.2ghz [20:06] what does cpufreq-info say now ? (as simple user) [20:07] kuhilasv1ara I check also something [20:08] http://pastebin.com/uPaRRphu [20:09] your pastebin has this: [20:09] driver: acpi-cpufreq [20:09] see if it is loaded: [20:09] lsmod | grep acpi [20:10] pata_acpi 13038 0 [20:10] here's my lsmod http://pastebin.com/D8RDZf4V [20:10] no need [20:11] grep filters with the suite of characters provided on the command line [20:11] see here: [20:11] http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=acpi-&searchon=names&suite=trusty§ion=all [20:11] perhaps installing the first one would help? [20:13] I installed acpi-support and tried lsmod | grep acpi but only pata_acpi there. Do I need to restart some daemons or things [20:14] just [20:14] kuhilasv1ara just load it: [20:14] sudo modprobe acpi-cpufreq (try it) [20:15] I tried that and nothing happened so as if it loaded, but lsmod | grep acpi still only shows pata_acpi [20:17] or what is supposed to happen when do sudo modprobe acpi-cpufreq ? :) [20:18] thanks a lot for thel help but maybe I have a bigger problem here :I [20:20] damn.. I would really love to lower the cpu freq though [20:21] kuhilasv1ara: the key word is "patience"... You do not know just how tenacious melodie is... She will work with you to sort this out. [20:22] cool [20:23] kuhilasv1ara yes it's frustrating when we can't find the solution at once, I know what it is really [20:24] have you tried this "sudo modprobe acpi-cpufreq" ? [20:24] yyeah, nothing happens [20:24] when I do that [20:24] phillw I'm also struggling against my teen son who persists talking in Skype! :-( [20:25] heh [20:25] I have a console with ssh and kill a few processes here and then to keep him quiter, but only makes it worse! [20:25] :) :( [20:25] yeh yeh, you can laugh! :D [20:26] melodie: kill -9 son ? [20:27] :p [20:27] apt-get remove --purge skype [20:27] XD [20:28] melodie: or, apt-get remove --purge teen-age_son [20:28] kuhilasv1ara what cpu is your's exactly? Does it support acpi? Is acpi activated in your bios? [20:28] phillw I might send him back to his father's :p [20:29] model name : AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor [20:32] no acpi in cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep acpi [20:32] some people have acpi in flags there [20:33] I don't know if this supports acpi or if it is activated in bios. I guess I shuld boot to bios to check [20:34] kuhilasv1ara you might have to. I look in my own cpuinfo and will tell you right on if I have that as a flag [20:34] $ grep acpi /proc/cpuinfo [20:34] $ [20:35] kuhilasv1ara I don't eithe [20:35] either [20:35] ok [20:35] I wonder if I can find in bios the info, if acpi is activated.. I have no idea what acpi is really and where to look for it there [20:37] kuhilasv1ara: what make / model computer do you have? I can do some digging for you. [20:37] if I find it in bios, should I change its state if it is activated or deactivated? [20:37] hmhm.. own built computer.. I don't remember the parts very well [20:37] kuhilasv1ara the bios might contain acpi enabled or not, you can check, it won't harm [20:38] if it is disabled, you want me to change it to eanbled? if it is enabled, should I change it to disabled? [20:38] if you find it in the bios and if it is not activated, activate it [20:38] it has to be anabled [20:38] enabled* [20:38] ok [20:39] kuhilasv1ara: also, please state which version of BIOS you are running (both make and version number) [20:39] military class n1996 msi [20:39] says on motherboard [20:40] when I boot to bios, I can find that info from somewhere I guess [20:40] yup, it should be there if you go digging about :) [20:40] auto oc genie overclocking [20:41] I boot and check [20:41] -> [20:52] what controls the standby timer, the timer that puts the system to sleep after certain amounts of inactivity, in Lubuntu? [20:52] I'm trying to turn that function off so that the system in question doesn't go into hibernate, and also doesn't turn off the screen [20:56] teward some setting related to xscreensaver [20:56] teward yea there is a bug in controlling that. I only got that deactivated by editing the grub adding some line at the end of the boot option somethingsomething=0 there [20:57] kuhilasv1ara ?o? [20:57] kuhilasv1ara, is the bug reported/documented anywhere? [20:57] melodie: acpi is and was enabled in bios. Bios is v17.7 090910 [20:57] I remember people talking about it as a bug [20:57] tertu what about just removing xscreensaver? [20:57] on some forum on internet [20:58] kuhilasv1ara ok, I have no more answer for you, at least for now. [20:58] oh i am not that t [20:58] ok, thanks for helping. I inspect it more later [20:58] kuhilasv1ara perhaps you check what features the kernel you have now allows for? [20:58] ok [21:00] kuhilasv1ara such as "grep ACPI /boot/config*" ? [21:00] without the quotes of course and as simple user) [21:02] lots of stuff there http://pastebin.com/KJVKJdm8 [21:03] btw, when I rebooted, did the cpufreqd daemon start automatically? [21:04] in/cpufreqd -f /etc/cpufreqd.conf ..this is ps -aux | grep cpu [21:05] guess so then [21:05] as simple user: [21:05] ps ax | grep cpufreqd [21:06] hmm ok. yes its there [21:06] ok :) [21:11] teward: in /etc/default/grub if you have GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="nomodeset consoleblank=0" u'd get what you want probably [21:12] https://encrypted.google.com/#q=nomodeset+consoleblank%3D0 [21:13] well, someone else also used that method where I got it [21:13] not many there tho [21:13] kuhilasv1ara using grub config to tweak the hibernation behavior? that's strange (and too close to the base system imho) [21:14] oh wait that nomodeset is there for other purposes, remove that from the google search [21:15] ye.. well try remove your screesaver and blank screen after x minutes of idle on lubuntu 13 or 14 and it seems quite hard otherwise [21:16] kuhilasv1ara: there is bug 1326740 which thankfully, should soon be rolled out [21:16] bug 1326740 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu Utopic) "[SRU] Please backport xfce4-power-manager 1.2.0-3ubuntu6 to trusty" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1326740 [21:23] then apt-get remove xfce4-power-manager ? [21:23] he he! [21:24] --purge (forgot) [21:52] good night [22:41] I couldn't find this answer anywhere online [22:42] which executable does lxpanel use for volume management? [22:42] I run i3 and try to keep my system lean by not running many LXDE programs, but I'm forced right now into running lxpanel because I have no other way of controlling voluem [22:43] unless of course I install something else, but I already have that applet, so [22:47] Hey guys.. I installed lubuntu as a virtualbox guest. is it possible to play an mp3 file on it? [22:47] ah, nevermind, I just discovered alsamixer [22:47] yay terminal apps