/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/07/20/#ubuntu-za.txt

=== Cantide is now known as CanShop
Symmetriasup06:22
Kilosmorning superfly and others06:55
ThatGraemeGuymorning all07:24
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy 07:25
Kilosthem wrenches only work once sigh07:25
=== CanShop is now known as Cantide
ThatGraemeGuyhuh?07:29
ThatGraemeGuyyou forgot to shift-right-click i assume07:29
ThatGraemeGuyworks multiple times, but does wear out eventually07:29
ThatGraemeGuyyou can pop it into one of my tool workshop boxes to have it restored to full health07:30
Kilosnope , if i take a new one it works but also only oncee07:30
ThatGraemeGuyweird07:30
ThatGraemeGuyunless the behaviour changed recently07:30
* ThatGraemeGuy checks git logs07:30
Kiloslol now i wanna build a tool workshop07:30
Kilosand i sukkel everytime to find your place. keep ending by ama zing place07:31
Kilosi dunno if thats yours or raouls07:31
ThatGraemeGuynope, nothing changed07:32
ThatGraemeGuyi'll build a road for you quickly07:33
Kiloslol07:33
Kilosi eventually get there after many turns and ups and downs but always forget to mark something where i go wrong everytime07:34
Cantidewhat game are you playing?07:55
Kiloshi Cantide 07:55
Kilosminetest07:55
Cantideaha07:59
Cantidei used to play that :p07:59
Cantidebeen ages07:59
Kilosnot minecraft08:01
Kilossimilar they say08:01
Kilosminetest be free08:01
Cantideyup08:02
Cantideit's exactly what i played about a year ago08:02
Kilosah08:13
Kilosvery lekker08:13
Kiloseats data though08:13
Cantide:S08:38
Cantidedata; what's that?08:39
Cantide:D08:39
Cantide10 Mbps uncapped for free = win :)08:39
Kilosswine08:54
superflyMorning everyone08:59
Kilosohi superfly 08:59
Cantideevening~09:07
Kilosit a big job to make a .tar into a .deb09:24
Kilostheyve made a new network-manager 0.9.10.0 which is at last the cure to the prob thats plagued ubuntu since 12.0409:25
Kilosits not serious as i have workarounds that do it09:26
Kilosso can wait till ubuntu-dev peeps actually implement it09:27
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charlgood afternoon all10:31
charlhi superfly, Kilos, CanAFK 10:31
charlMaaz: coffee on10:31
* Maaz washes some mugs10:31
Kiloshi charl 10:31
MaazCoffee's ready for charl!10:35
=== CanAFK is now known as CanEat
CanEathey charl, Kilos '-'/10:40
Kilosagain10:41
CanEat:p10:47
CanEati'm eating udon and kimchi10:47
CanEatJapanese and Korean in one meal lol10:47
Kiloshi gremble 11:04
grembleHey Kilos 11:04
grembleHow are you doing today?11:04
Kilosgood ty and you11:05
Kilosyou peeps are all yaniefied with your hey11:05
grembleyaniefied?11:05
grembleI am doing well thank you11:05
Kilosone used to say hey to someone if they were doing something wrong11:05
Kilosyankiefied11:05
grembleHaha11:06
grembleI guess so11:06
Kilosits from too much tv methinks11:06
CanEataint nobody got time for dat tv11:06
gremble^11:06
grembleI haven't watched an American tv show in ages11:06
Kiloshaha11:06
grembleSometimes I watch a little Dr Who that I steal11:06
grembleBut that is about it :P11:06
Kilosages=?11:06
grembleI dunno, more than a year I guess11:07
grembleI get bored when I sit and stare at a little square box11:07
Kilosi think hey as a greeting came from yankyland11:07
Kiloshaha you got short ages11:08
grembleWell, in relative terms a year is longer if you take into account that my maximum time lived is only 23 of them :P11:10
grembleOk, perhaps not11:10
grembleIt is only like 4%11:11
charlgood afternoon11:15
charlCanEat: long time no speak to, how's it going11:15
CanEatit's going very  well indeed!11:15
charlyou still doing english lessons ?11:15
CanEatyup11:15
CanEatplus some other stuff on the side11:16
CanEatto make me some moneys :p11:16
charlvery good ! got stuff sorted out with your relationship ?11:16
CanEaterm11:16
CanEatwhen did we last chat?11:16
CanEati think you're asking about my ex11:16
charlah :(11:16
charlsorry to hear11:16
CanEathad a new gf for about 1 month now11:16
CanEatgoing strong11:17
charlcool ! :)11:17
CanEat'-';;;11:17
charlyeah sometimes it's good to just move forward11:17
CanEatyup11:17
CanEathow have you been?11:17
charli've been great ! just super hot at the moment11:17
charllemme check the temperature... one sec11:17
charl30 right now but yesterday afternoon it went up to 3411:18
charlhow's the weather over there right now11:18
CanEat31 C here11:18
charlah :(11:18
charland humid too i suppose11:18
CanEatoh, dropped to 28 now... but it's 20:1811:19
CanEatyeah11:19
charlbah11:19
CanEathumidity is the problem11:19
charlsame here11:19
CanEatnot bad in my room - aircon <311:19
charlthings seemed to have "cooled down" with north korea though at the moment11:19
charlright now everyone is talking about the ukraine, especially after the plane crash11:19
charland america is doing their best to add fuel to the fire11:20
CanEatyeah11:20
CanEatNK is  just like a petulant child - you never need to pay attention even when they're noisy11:20
charlmany people are saying this is the start of world war 311:20
charlyeah i think the same of NK, i never saw them as any real threat11:20
CanEatthey can't afford a war nor win one11:21
CanEatall bark and no bite11:21
CanEatthe Russia / US thing is worrying11:21
charlkim jong un is just like a naughty child that needs a good spanking11:21
CanEatthey're using other countries as proxies for war11:21
CanEatyip :p11:21
charlyup'11:21
CanEati feel safe here11:21
charldestabilise the whole east european region first and let it spiral out11:22
charlmaybe i move to the east if things get too crazy over here :)11:22
CanEatheh11:22
CanEatSeoul is within range of the North11:23
charli don't intend to get caught up in the middle of a pissing contest between the US and russia11:23
CanEatso if things do go down, Seoul would get shelled completely before the North is stopped11:23
CanEatyeah11:23
CanEatwhere are you now?11:23
charlbah :(11:23
charlNL11:23
CanEatyeah...11:23
CanEatbut NL is not involved11:23
CanEatright?11:23
charlafter this whole plane crash... we kind-of are...11:24
CanEatoh :/11:24
charlbut i mean europe is too small to even think in individual country terms11:24
CanEatoh yeah... mostly NL citizens :(11:24
CanEatyeah11:24
charlwell the plane was on its way from schiphol11:24
charlthere is no immediate danger of war breaking out but like i said, it's destabilising and it's simply warmongering by US/russia11:25
CanEat,_,11:25
charlif this spirals out of control the whole of europe could get involved eventually11:25
charlit will still take a couple of years but i see where this (could) go11:25
CanEatis Russia strong?11:25
charli thought not actually, but it's a HUGE country11:25
CanEatthe US is spreading itself thin11:25
CanEatyeah11:25
CanEatlike China11:25
charland i mean, for such a poor country, the russians are rather smart people11:26
CanEatthey're a paper tiger though11:26
charlUK/US media is very quick to blame russia for this plane being shot down11:27
charlbut in the meantime russian media is saying that the us is planning to strike against both russia and china in the next two years11:27
charlserious BS and warmongering11:28
CanEatgah11:29
CanEatyeah, why all the mud flinging11:29
CanEatno need for war, really11:29
charlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvKucpTckjA11:29
Kiloswar generates economies11:29
charli dunno what the US is doing, maybe they are trying to revive their rapidly dying economy11:29
CanEatyeah11:30
CanEatbut really... if people weren't so materialistic we would have no need11:30
* CanEat travels back to the middle ages11:30
charlprecisely11:31
CanEatself-sufficiency is the answer11:32
CanEatdon't be a part of the system11:32
CanEatgovernments wouldn't like that though11:32
charlnope not at al11:34
charl*all11:34
charlok i'm off11:39
charlttyl all11:39
CanEatokay~~11:39
CanEatsee ya!11:39
charl:)11:39
charlk back14:06
charldid a whole lot of washing now14:06
charlCanEat: you still there ?14:06
Kiloslol must be getting kinda uncomfortable by now with all this eating14:07
charlyup14:08
=== CanEat is now known as Cantide
Cantideoh yeah :)14:15
Cantidei am alive14:15
Cantidegetting ready to sleep14:18
Cantide23:18 here14:18
Cantideand i get up at 05:30 every day14:19
Kilossleep tight lad14:19
Symmetrialooks like rain coming here14:21
charlnn Cantide :)14:22
Cantide'-'/14:22
Cantidegn14:22
Kiloshi Symmetria are you going to do the deb-delta server as well?14:24
Kilosthats for data capped peeps14:24
Kilosupgrades will be much smaller and faster14:24
Kilosiirc you save like 80% of the downloading14:26
SymmetriaI might try see what I can do, though honestly, caps should disappear :P14:26
Symmetriathats such a south african problem :)14:26
charlin belgium they also have that but it's usually around 300GB or something which for most people is sufficient14:27
charlbut belgium for west european norms is a very poor country14:27
charlpractically no well developed economy has that14:28
Kilosnot just caps Symmetria but data strapped peeps as well. like all 3g peeps14:28
charlin belgium they say it's simply lack of competition, i assume in za it's similar14:29
Kiloscharl, my kde 14.04 took 500m two weeks ago and 80m again last nibht14:29
Kilosnight14:30
Kilosand 111m on this 64bit unity last night 14:30
Kilosnot wise to run 64 and 32bit pcs14:31
charli also run updates regularly but i don't even care, i probably download 10+GB every day in any case14:31
Kilossjoe14:31
charli use a lot of iptv etc14:31
Kilosiptv?14:32
charlinternet protocol television14:32
charli don't even have a regular television14:32
Kiloshaha so you will be saying hey soon too14:32
charlin australia they also (used to) have very terrible internet14:33
charli don't know if that's still the case14:33
charlall monopolised by telstra etc14:33
Kilosthey are getting better. also putting fibre all over14:34
charlah very good14:34
charlstill no fibre in my town i'm very bitter about that :(14:34
Kiloshehe14:34
charleven in small towns in the region with a couple of hundred people living there they have ftth14:34
charljust not in the centre of a city where i live :(14:34
Kilosai!14:34
charlin germany they did it themselves, a community project to give fibre to people14:34
charlthey live in a remote farm town with kilometres between each household14:35
charldidn't make any commercial sense so they decided to do it themselves14:35
Kilosvery progressive peeps the germans14:35
charlcost 1000 euro per person to join up but then you automatically get ownership in the company14:35
Kiloscool14:35
charl90% of the town already is fibre enabled now :D14:35
charlthat's the way the internet was meant to be14:36
charldefinitely not controlled by large companies but controlled by the people and owned as a public service14:36
charli see internet in the same way i see healthcare, electricity, water, sanitation etc14:36
charli see it as a basic public service which everyone should have access to14:36
charlthese cable monopolies like what we have in NL too need to die14:37
charli pay like 54 euro per month for this shitty 90mbps connection :(14:37
charli would much rather invest in a community project to get good fibre rolled out14:38
Kiloshaha come here for a while then youll be happy with that14:38
charlyeah i know za is terrible on that front :(14:38
charli still have some family living there :(14:38
Symmetriaheh I average 150 gigs a day14:38
charlah :) clouds just came over and it's starting to cool down already14:42
charli think it will rain soon... so nice relief after this heat14:42
Kilosenjoy it14:42
Symmetriaheh raining here15:32
bushtechSymmetria: Where are you located16:31
Kiloshe is in kenya bushtech 16:46
bushtechThanks16:49
grembleo/17:01
Kiloswb gremble 17:10
Kilosbushtech, he used to do the network stuff for our varsities now he is between za and kenya17:11
Kilosnow seems like they got better internet than we do17:11
Kilosyour voda connection seems to be better17:13
bushtechI'm not so sure of that one17:14
Kiloswell you arent yoyoing so much17:15
Kilosso looks better from here17:15
Symmetriaheh17:32
Symmetriabushtech I can assure you17:32
SymmetriaKenya has better internet connectivity than ZA17:32
Symmetriano question about it, no debate17:33
Symmetriafiber penetration is better17:33
Symmetriaspeeds are higher17:33
Symmetrialatencies are lower17:33
Symmetriaprices are cheaper17:33
Symmetria(a LOT cheaper)17:33
bushtechevery time some govt yobbo spouts about SA being the leader in Africa I hose myself17:34
Symmetriaheh in Kenya you can get 40mbit uncapped, unshaped, all inclusive for 700 bux a month, you can have 20meg uncapped unshaped with 130 tv channels thrown into the mix for 1100 bux a month17:36
Symmetriaand you can get that installed within 2 days of ordering17:36
bushtechtook me 7 months to get an adsl line in Jhb17:37
bushtechI rest my case17:37
Symmetriaheh I have dual gigabit fibers into my house17:37
Symmetriaand about to upgrade them to dual 10gig fibers17:37
Symmetriahttp://valhalla.clue.be/~vort/equipment.jpg17:38
Symmetriaheh not sure if that will appear upside down or not, some people say it does, but it doesnt in my chrome browser on my mac :P17:38
Symmetriaheh but that is outside :)17:38
bushtechyou planning a dos attack on America?17:39
Symmetrialol thats why I say when I leech 100 - 150 gigs a day of crap, it doesnt really affect bandwidth 17:40
Symmetriaomg my cat farted17:40
* Symmetria dies17:40
bushtechspare a thought for folks with 10gb cap a month17:41
Symmetrialol I just leeched 212 gigs while watching a double tv episode17:41
bushtechgive the cat to the neighbours you dont like17:41
Symmetria  1,092,121,208 100%   56.03MB/s    0:00:18 (xfr#530799, to-chk=268777/1718696)                                                                                                                 17:42
Symmetriaheh thats me downloading right now 17:42
charlbushtech: when i was in kenya for last time (nairobi 2011) the internet there was already much better than in za17:52
charlbut it was on wananchi and the latency was sky-high17:52
charlit's because they were routing everything through india17:52
charlfrom what i hear now it's improved a lot17:53
charlback then you could already get uncapped 3g from whatever the company was called17:53
charland it was rather affordable too17:53
ThatGraemeGuy'lo18:38
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy 18:38
Kilosnow i got lotsa coal, barts visiting18:38
ThatGraemeGuyyou must make a pair of chests with teleporter tubes18:39
ThatGraemeGuyand some other thing i cant recall now18:39
Kilosyou said teleporting was for the priviledged few only18:39
Kilosi have some of those tubes somewhere18:40
ThatGraemeGuynee man18:40
Kilosi got solar going18:40
ThatGraemeGuythe /teleport command is limited18:40
ThatGraemeGuyteleporter tubes are part of the pipeworks mod18:40
Kiloslimited to what?18:40
ThatGraemeGuylimited to people with the teleport privilege18:41
Kilosthose coal lv things waste coal. burn even if not working18:41
ThatGraemeGuyhttp://vanessae.github.io/pipeworks/ <-- you need teleporter tubes and a mese injector18:41
ThatGraemeGuyyou would have a chest in the deep, a mese injector next to it, and a teleport tube next to that18:42
ThatGraemeGuythen in your house you have a teleport tube attached to a chest18:42
Kilosthat sounds good18:42
ThatGraemeGuyset both teleport tubes to the same channel18:42
Kilosim still trying to make that toolbox thing18:42
Kilosoh i saw it asked once what channel and i didnt have an idea18:43
ThatGraemeGuythen you punch (left-click) the mese injector in the deep and it will pull 1 stack of inventory items from the chest and teleport it to your chest in your home18:43
ThatGraemeGuyits just a number, so make them both 12 or whatever18:43
Kilosthat really sounds good because its a long trip even with e going18:43
Kilos4.5k down and i dont know how far cross country18:44
Kilosoh ThatGraemeGuy i hit a luck18:44
Kilosyou missed something18:44
ThatGraemeGuyorly?18:45
Kiloswhats orly?18:45
Kilosremeber the hight of the solar panels18:45
Kilosthats the hight if my first glass layer of roof18:46
Kilosheight18:46
superflyohi18:59
Kiloshi superfly 18:59
ThatGraemeGuyhappy birthday superfly20:14
ThatGraemeGuynight night all20:15
Kilosoh my fly, may each year just be better and better20:15
Kilosnight ThatGraemeGuy 20:15
Kilossleep tight20:15
Kiloshow old now superfly ??20:16
superflythanks ThatGraemeGuy, Kilos20:18
superflyKilos: old enough20:18
Kiloshahaha20:18
Kiloswell may you at least double it20:18
Kilosnight peeps. sleep tight and warm22:15

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