[06:22] <Symmetria> sup
[06:55] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[07:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning all
[07:25] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[07:25] <Kilos> them wrenches only work once sigh
[07:29] <ThatGraemeGuy> huh?
[07:29] <ThatGraemeGuy> you forgot to shift-right-click i assume
[07:29] <ThatGraemeGuy> works multiple times, but does wear out eventually
[07:30] <ThatGraemeGuy> you can pop it into one of my tool workshop boxes to have it restored to full health
[07:30] <Kilos> nope , if i take a new one it works but also only oncee
[07:30] <ThatGraemeGuy> weird
[07:30] <ThatGraemeGuy> unless the behaviour changed recently
[07:30]  * ThatGraemeGuy checks git logs
[07:30] <Kilos> lol now i wanna build a tool workshop
[07:31] <Kilos> and i sukkel everytime to find your place. keep ending by ama zing place
[07:31] <Kilos> i dunno if thats yours or raouls
[07:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> nope, nothing changed
[07:33] <ThatGraemeGuy> i'll build a road for you quickly
[07:33] <Kilos> lol
[07:34] <Kilos> i eventually get there after many turns and ups and downs but always forget to mark something where i go wrong everytime
[07:55] <Cantide> what game are you playing?
[07:55] <Kilos> hi Cantide 
[07:55] <Kilos> minetest
[07:59] <Cantide> aha
[07:59] <Cantide> i used to play that :p
[07:59] <Cantide> been ages
[08:01] <Kilos> not minecraft
[08:01] <Kilos> similar they say
[08:01] <Kilos> minetest be free
[08:02] <Cantide> yup
[08:02] <Cantide> it's exactly what i played about a year ago
[08:13] <Kilos> ah
[08:13] <Kilos> very lekker
[08:13] <Kilos> eats data though
[08:38] <Cantide> :S
[08:39] <Cantide> data; what's that?
[08:39] <Cantide> :D
[08:39] <Cantide> 10 Mbps uncapped for free = win :)
[08:54] <Kilos> swine
[08:59] <superfly> Morning everyone
[08:59] <Kilos> ohi superfly 
[09:07] <Cantide> evening~
[09:24] <Kilos> it a big job to make a .tar into a .deb
[09:25] <Kilos> theyve made a new network-manager 0.9.10.0 which is at last the cure to the prob thats plagued ubuntu since 12.04
[09:26] <Kilos> its not serious as i have workarounds that do it
[09:27] <Kilos> so can wait till ubuntu-dev peeps actually implement it
[10:31] <charl> good afternoon all
[10:31] <charl> hi superfly, Kilos, CanAFK 
[10:31] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[10:31]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[10:31] <Kilos> hi charl 
[10:35] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[10:40] <CanEat> hey charl, Kilos '-'/
[10:41] <Kilos> again
[10:47] <CanEat> :p
[10:47] <CanEat> i'm eating udon and kimchi
[10:47] <CanEat> Japanese and Korean in one meal lol
[11:04] <Kilos> hi gremble 
[11:04] <gremble> Hey Kilos 
[11:04] <gremble> How are you doing today?
[11:05] <Kilos> good ty and you
[11:05] <Kilos> you peeps are all yaniefied with your hey
[11:05] <gremble> yaniefied?
[11:05] <gremble> I am doing well thank you
[11:05] <Kilos> one used to say hey to someone if they were doing something wrong
[11:05] <Kilos> yankiefied
[11:06] <gremble> Haha
[11:06] <gremble> I guess so
[11:06] <Kilos> its from too much tv methinks
[11:06] <CanEat> aint nobody got time for dat tv
[11:06] <gremble> ^
[11:06] <gremble> I haven't watched an American tv show in ages
[11:06] <Kilos> haha
[11:06] <gremble> Sometimes I watch a little Dr Who that I steal
[11:06] <gremble> But that is about it :P
[11:06] <Kilos> ages=?
[11:07] <gremble> I dunno, more than a year I guess
[11:07] <gremble> I get bored when I sit and stare at a little square box
[11:07] <Kilos> i think hey as a greeting came from yankyland
[11:08] <Kilos> haha you got short ages
[11:10] <gremble> Well, in relative terms a year is longer if you take into account that my maximum time lived is only 23 of them :P
[11:10] <gremble> Ok, perhaps not
[11:11] <gremble> It is only like 4%
[11:15] <charl> good afternoon
[11:15] <charl> CanEat: long time no speak to, how's it going
[11:15] <CanEat> it's going very  well indeed!
[11:15] <charl> you still doing english lessons ?
[11:15] <CanEat> yup
[11:16] <CanEat> plus some other stuff on the side
[11:16] <CanEat> to make me some moneys :p
[11:16] <charl> very good ! got stuff sorted out with your relationship ?
[11:16] <CanEat> erm
[11:16] <CanEat> when did we last chat?
[11:16] <CanEat> i think you're asking about my ex
[11:16] <charl> ah :(
[11:16] <charl> sorry to hear
[11:16] <CanEat> had a new gf for about 1 month now
[11:17] <CanEat> going strong
[11:17] <charl> cool ! :)
[11:17] <CanEat> '-';;;
[11:17] <charl> yeah sometimes it's good to just move forward
[11:17] <CanEat> yup
[11:17] <CanEat> how have you been?
[11:17] <charl> i've been great ! just super hot at the moment
[11:17] <charl> lemme check the temperature... one sec
[11:18] <charl> 30 right now but yesterday afternoon it went up to 34
[11:18] <charl> how's the weather over there right now
[11:18] <CanEat> 31 C here
[11:18] <charl> ah :(
[11:18] <charl> and humid too i suppose
[11:19] <CanEat> oh, dropped to 28 now... but it's 20:18
[11:19] <CanEat> yeah
[11:19] <charl> bah
[11:19] <CanEat> humidity is the problem
[11:19] <charl> same here
[11:19] <CanEat> not bad in my room - aircon <3
[11:19] <charl> things seemed to have "cooled down" with north korea though at the moment
[11:19] <charl> right now everyone is talking about the ukraine, especially after the plane crash
[11:20] <charl> and america is doing their best to add fuel to the fire
[11:20] <CanEat> yeah
[11:20] <CanEat> NK is  just like a petulant child - you never need to pay attention even when they're noisy
[11:20] <charl> many people are saying this is the start of world war 3
[11:20] <charl> yeah i think the same of NK, i never saw them as any real threat
[11:21] <CanEat> they can't afford a war nor win one
[11:21] <CanEat> all bark and no bite
[11:21] <CanEat> the Russia / US thing is worrying
[11:21] <charl> kim jong un is just like a naughty child that needs a good spanking
[11:21] <CanEat> they're using other countries as proxies for war
[11:21] <CanEat> yip :p
[11:21] <charl> yup'
[11:21] <CanEat> i feel safe here
[11:22] <charl> destabilise the whole east european region first and let it spiral out
[11:22] <charl> maybe i move to the east if things get too crazy over here :)
[11:22] <CanEat> heh
[11:23] <CanEat> Seoul is within range of the North
[11:23] <charl> i don't intend to get caught up in the middle of a pissing contest between the US and russia
[11:23] <CanEat> so if things do go down, Seoul would get shelled completely before the North is stopped
[11:23] <CanEat> yeah
[11:23] <CanEat> where are you now?
[11:23] <charl> bah :(
[11:23] <charl> NL
[11:23] <CanEat> yeah...
[11:23] <CanEat> but NL is not involved
[11:23] <CanEat> right?
[11:24] <charl> after this whole plane crash... we kind-of are...
[11:24] <CanEat> oh :/
[11:24] <charl> but i mean europe is too small to even think in individual country terms
[11:24] <CanEat> oh yeah... mostly NL citizens :(
[11:24] <CanEat> yeah
[11:24] <charl> well the plane was on its way from schiphol
[11:25] <charl> there is no immediate danger of war breaking out but like i said, it's destabilising and it's simply warmongering by US/russia
[11:25] <CanEat> ,_,
[11:25] <charl> if this spirals out of control the whole of europe could get involved eventually
[11:25] <charl> it will still take a couple of years but i see where this (could) go
[11:25] <CanEat> is Russia strong?
[11:25] <charl> i thought not actually, but it's a HUGE country
[11:25] <CanEat> the US is spreading itself thin
[11:25] <CanEat> yeah
[11:25] <CanEat> like China
[11:26] <charl> and i mean, for such a poor country, the russians are rather smart people
[11:26] <CanEat> they're a paper tiger though
[11:27] <charl> UK/US media is very quick to blame russia for this plane being shot down
[11:27] <charl> but in the meantime russian media is saying that the us is planning to strike against both russia and china in the next two years
[11:28] <charl> serious BS and warmongering
[11:29] <CanEat> gah
[11:29] <CanEat> yeah, why all the mud flinging
[11:29] <CanEat> no need for war, really
[11:29] <charl> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvKucpTckjA
[11:29] <Kilos> war generates economies
[11:29] <charl> i dunno what the US is doing, maybe they are trying to revive their rapidly dying economy
[11:30] <CanEat> yeah
[11:30] <CanEat> but really... if people weren't so materialistic we would have no need
[11:30]  * CanEat travels back to the middle ages
[11:31] <charl> precisely
[11:32] <CanEat> self-sufficiency is the answer
[11:32] <CanEat> don't be a part of the system
[11:32] <CanEat> governments wouldn't like that though
[11:34] <charl> nope not at al
[11:34] <charl> *all
[11:39] <charl> ok i'm off
[11:39] <charl> ttyl all
[11:39] <CanEat> okay~~
[11:39] <CanEat> see ya!
[11:39] <charl> :)
[14:06] <charl> k back
[14:06] <charl> did a whole lot of washing now
[14:06] <charl> CanEat: you still there ?
[14:07] <Kilos> lol must be getting kinda uncomfortable by now with all this eating
[14:08] <charl> yup
[14:15] <Cantide> oh yeah :)
[14:15] <Cantide> i am alive
[14:18] <Cantide> getting ready to sleep
[14:18] <Cantide> 23:18 here
[14:19] <Cantide> and i get up at 05:30 every day
[14:19] <Kilos> sleep tight lad
[14:21] <Symmetria> looks like rain coming here
[14:22] <charl> nn Cantide :)
[14:22] <Cantide> '-'/
[14:22] <Cantide> gn
[14:24] <Kilos> hi Symmetria are you going to do the deb-delta server as well?
[14:24] <Kilos> thats for data capped peeps
[14:24] <Kilos> upgrades will be much smaller and faster
[14:26] <Kilos> iirc you save like 80% of the downloading
[14:26] <Symmetria> I might try see what I can do, though honestly, caps should disappear :P
[14:26] <Symmetria> thats such a south african problem :)
[14:27] <charl> in belgium they also have that but it's usually around 300GB or something which for most people is sufficient
[14:27] <charl> but belgium for west european norms is a very poor country
[14:28] <charl> practically no well developed economy has that
[14:28] <Kilos> not just caps Symmetria but data strapped peeps as well. like all 3g peeps
[14:29] <charl> in belgium they say it's simply lack of competition, i assume in za it's similar
[14:29] <Kilos> charl, my kde 14.04 took 500m two weeks ago and 80m again last nibht
[14:30] <Kilos> night
[14:30] <Kilos> and 111m on this 64bit unity last night 
[14:31] <Kilos> not wise to run 64 and 32bit pcs
[14:31] <charl> i also run updates regularly but i don't even care, i probably download 10+GB every day in any case
[14:31] <Kilos> sjoe
[14:31] <charl> i use a lot of iptv etc
[14:32] <Kilos> iptv?
[14:32] <charl> internet protocol television
[14:32] <charl> i don't even have a regular television
[14:32] <Kilos> haha so you will be saying hey soon too
[14:33] <charl> in australia they also (used to) have very terrible internet
[14:33] <charl> i don't know if that's still the case
[14:33] <charl> all monopolised by telstra etc
[14:34] <Kilos> they are getting better. also putting fibre all over
[14:34] <charl> ah very good
[14:34] <charl> still no fibre in my town i'm very bitter about that :(
[14:34] <Kilos> hehe
[14:34] <charl> even in small towns in the region with a couple of hundred people living there they have ftth
[14:34] <charl> just not in the centre of a city where i live :(
[14:34] <Kilos> ai!
[14:34] <charl> in germany they did it themselves, a community project to give fibre to people
[14:35] <charl> they live in a remote farm town with kilometres between each household
[14:35] <charl> didn't make any commercial sense so they decided to do it themselves
[14:35] <Kilos> very progressive peeps the germans
[14:35] <charl> cost 1000 euro per person to join up but then you automatically get ownership in the company
[14:35] <Kilos> cool
[14:35] <charl> 90% of the town already is fibre enabled now :D
[14:36] <charl> that's the way the internet was meant to be
[14:36] <charl> definitely not controlled by large companies but controlled by the people and owned as a public service
[14:36] <charl> i see internet in the same way i see healthcare, electricity, water, sanitation etc
[14:36] <charl> i see it as a basic public service which everyone should have access to
[14:37] <charl> these cable monopolies like what we have in NL too need to die
[14:37] <charl> i pay like 54 euro per month for this shitty 90mbps connection :(
[14:38] <charl> i would much rather invest in a community project to get good fibre rolled out
[14:38] <Kilos> haha come here for a while then youll be happy with that
[14:38] <charl> yeah i know za is terrible on that front :(
[14:38] <charl> i still have some family living there :(
[14:38] <Symmetria> heh I average 150 gigs a day
[14:42] <charl> ah :) clouds just came over and it's starting to cool down already
[14:42] <charl> i think it will rain soon... so nice relief after this heat
[14:42] <Kilos> enjoy it
[15:32] <Symmetria> heh raining here
[16:31] <bushtech> Symmetria: Where are you located
[16:46] <Kilos> he is in kenya bushtech 
[16:49] <bushtech> Thanks
[17:01] <gremble> o/
[17:10] <Kilos> wb gremble 
[17:11] <Kilos> bushtech, he used to do the network stuff for our varsities now he is between za and kenya
[17:11] <Kilos> now seems like they got better internet than we do
[17:13] <Kilos> your voda connection seems to be better
[17:14] <bushtech> I'm not so sure of that one
[17:15] <Kilos> well you arent yoyoing so much
[17:15] <Kilos> so looks better from here
[17:32] <Symmetria> heh
[17:32] <Symmetria> bushtech I can assure you
[17:32] <Symmetria> Kenya has better internet connectivity than ZA
[17:33] <Symmetria> no question about it, no debate
[17:33] <Symmetria> fiber penetration is better
[17:33] <Symmetria> speeds are higher
[17:33] <Symmetria> latencies are lower
[17:33] <Symmetria> prices are cheaper
[17:33] <Symmetria> (a LOT cheaper)
[17:34] <bushtech> every time some govt yobbo spouts about SA being the leader in Africa I hose myself
[17:36] <Symmetria> heh in Kenya you can get 40mbit uncapped, unshaped, all inclusive for 700 bux a month, you can have 20meg uncapped unshaped with 130 tv channels thrown into the mix for 1100 bux a month
[17:36] <Symmetria> and you can get that installed within 2 days of ordering
[17:37] <bushtech> took me 7 months to get an adsl line in Jhb
[17:37] <bushtech> I rest my case
[17:37] <Symmetria> heh I have dual gigabit fibers into my house
[17:37] <Symmetria> and about to upgrade them to dual 10gig fibers
[17:38] <Symmetria> http://valhalla.clue.be/~vort/equipment.jpg
[17:38] <Symmetria> heh not sure if that will appear upside down or not, some people say it does, but it doesnt in my chrome browser on my mac :P
[17:38] <Symmetria> heh but that is outside :)
[17:39] <bushtech> you planning a dos attack on America?
[17:40] <Symmetria> lol thats why I say when I leech 100 - 150 gigs a day of crap, it doesnt really affect bandwidth 
[17:40] <Symmetria> omg my cat farted
[17:40]  * Symmetria dies
[17:41] <bushtech> spare a thought for folks with 10gb cap a month
[17:41] <Symmetria> lol I just leeched 212 gigs while watching a double tv episode
[17:41] <bushtech> give the cat to the neighbours you dont like
[17:42] <Symmetria>   1,092,121,208 100%   56.03MB/s    0:00:18 (xfr#530799, to-chk=268777/1718696)                                                                                                                 
[17:42] <Symmetria> heh thats me downloading right now 
[17:52] <charl> bushtech: when i was in kenya for last time (nairobi 2011) the internet there was already much better than in za
[17:52] <charl> but it was on wananchi and the latency was sky-high
[17:52] <charl> it's because they were routing everything through india
[17:53] <charl> from what i hear now it's improved a lot
[17:53] <charl> back then you could already get uncapped 3g from whatever the company was called
[17:53] <charl> and it was rather affordable too
[18:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo
[18:38] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[18:38] <Kilos> now i got lotsa coal, barts visiting
[18:39] <ThatGraemeGuy> you must make a pair of chests with teleporter tubes
[18:39] <ThatGraemeGuy> and some other thing i cant recall now
[18:39] <Kilos> you said teleporting was for the priviledged few only
[18:40] <Kilos> i have some of those tubes somewhere
[18:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> nee man
[18:40] <Kilos> i got solar going
[18:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> the /teleport command is limited
[18:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> teleporter tubes are part of the pipeworks mod
[18:40] <Kilos> limited to what?
[18:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> limited to people with the teleport privilege
[18:41] <Kilos> those coal lv things waste coal. burn even if not working
[18:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://vanessae.github.io/pipeworks/ <-- you need teleporter tubes and a mese injector
[18:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> you would have a chest in the deep, a mese injector next to it, and a teleport tube next to that
[18:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> then in your house you have a teleport tube attached to a chest
[18:42] <Kilos> that sounds good
[18:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> set both teleport tubes to the same channel
[18:42] <Kilos> im still trying to make that toolbox thing
[18:43] <Kilos> oh i saw it asked once what channel and i didnt have an idea
[18:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> then you punch (left-click) the mese injector in the deep and it will pull 1 stack of inventory items from the chest and teleport it to your chest in your home
[18:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> its just a number, so make them both 12 or whatever
[18:43] <Kilos> that really sounds good because its a long trip even with e going
[18:44] <Kilos> 4.5k down and i dont know how far cross country
[18:44] <Kilos> oh ThatGraemeGuy i hit a luck
[18:44] <Kilos> you missed something
[18:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> orly?
[18:45] <Kilos> whats orly?
[18:45] <Kilos> remeber the hight of the solar panels
[18:46] <Kilos> thats the hight if my first glass layer of roof
[18:46] <Kilos> height
[18:59] <superfly> ohi
[18:59] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[20:14] <ThatGraemeGuy> happy birthday superfly
[20:15] <ThatGraemeGuy> night night all
[20:15] <Kilos> oh my fly, may each year just be better and better
[20:15] <Kilos> night ThatGraemeGuy 
[20:15] <Kilos> sleep tight
[20:16] <Kilos> how old now superfly ??
[20:18] <superfly> thanks ThatGraemeGuy, Kilos
[20:18] <superfly> Kilos: old enough
[20:18] <Kilos> hahaha
[20:18] <Kilos> well may you at least double it
[22:15] <Kilos> night peeps. sleep tight and warm