[00:00] <ddbbcc> i'm interested in installing kali on ubuntu, any tips or recommendations
[00:01] <racho> what is kali>
[00:01] <laspahr> if you don't mind me asking, what's kali?
[00:01] <laspahr> heh at least I'm not the only one
[00:01] <eeee> RainMan28: i could be wrong, but this is the syntax for cron * * * * * <user> /home/<user>/lightswitch
[00:01] <RainMan28> thank you eeee
[00:01] <pixelboy_> anyway here know why do i keep getting notification icon in the upper right corner that "the update information is outdated" despite even when running sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade all is good ?
[00:01] <ddbbcc> the most advanced and versatile penetration testing distribution ever created
[00:02] <congo76> laspahr: I had to look it up, not familiar w that distro
[00:02] <jj995> when
[00:02] <laspahr> congo76: what do you mean?
[00:03] <laspahr> any clue how to stop all the side notifications from pidgin about facebook friends going online?
[00:03] <racho> ddbbcc, well never heard of it but ok...usually pen testers have custom suite of scripts/binaries to run against their target
[00:03] <congo76> laspahr: you asked what it was, i looked it up on the net cause i didn't know either
[00:03] <patrick_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTAx9hFbBxk&list=UUdMWRr3LoOPDbTmnH_go_3Q
[00:04] <laspahr> congo76: ah, okay! I just found it on google heh
[00:04] <Aaraigathor> Regarding AMD Graphics drivers, should I use fglrx or fglrx-updates? And why?
[00:04] <congo76> laspahr: doesn't look like something i would use or need
[00:04] <racho> Aaraigathor, unless you're gaming you shouldn't use fglxr at all for now
[00:05] <jellow> why does software upgrade gui ignore packages I have set to hold with apt-mark hold linux-image-3.13.0-30-generic ?
[00:05] <laspahr> congo76: yeah, I don't do pen testing heh.. I'm good with ubuntu
[00:05] <Aaraigathor> racho: I am gaming, and the open source drivers loads windows very slow. Even just the browser is slow
[00:05] <pixelboy_> anyway here get update notification on 14.04 that don't actually update anything ?
[00:05] <laspahr> maybe try out a few different distros like mint but idk
[00:06] <Aaraigathor> Who is curious on pen testing? I'm experienced
[00:07] <racho> Aaraigathor, that's not the open source drivers..that's just compiz...but if you're gaming take a look at the difference between the two packages (i don't run ubuntu since 12.04 so i don't know the changelogs there )
[00:07] <congo76> laspahr: i used to jump around on distros, got tired an just picked ubuntu
[00:07] <zubir> no GUI is da way to go
[00:07] <congo76> zubir: right, right
[00:07] <Aaraigathor> racho: Okay, thank you
[00:08] <Aaraigathor> AMD Graphics drivers, fglrx or fglrx-updates? Anyone know the difference?
[00:08] <renebarbosa> fglrx
[00:08] <laspahr> congo76: yeah, ubuntu is just what I had been used to. zubir how are you on irc if you don't have GUI?
[00:09] <ai6pg> ubuntu 14.04 - where are /ttyUSB* ?
[00:09] <Aaraigathor> renebarbosa: Why not the *-updates?
[00:09] <renebarbosa> and if you're using hybrid graphics, also install the package fglrx-pxpress
[00:09] <Aaraigathor> renebarbosa: I am used a dedicated HD5670
[00:10] <Mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I send emails with attachments from terminal?
[00:10] <renebarbosa> Aaraigathor, i may be wrong but that package is used for newer fglrx drivers coming to Ubuntu
[00:10] <renebarbosa> so they can be unstable or with incompatibilities
[00:10] <renebarbosa> i always used the fglrx one
[00:11] <Aaraigathor> renebarbosa: Thank you, I'll just go with fglrx then :)
[00:11] <renebarbosa> i would like to use only the open source radeon thing
[00:11] <renebarbosa> but it never worked here :/
[00:11] <Aaraigathor> I had issues with it too
[00:12] <renebarbosa> my Xorg just dies if I try to use it
[00:12] <laspahr> what's the best distro for a touchscreen laptop? /: I wanna make use of the touchscreen but Ubuntu 14.04 doesn't work (at least fully)
[00:12] <renebarbosa> laspahr, Ubuntu should be work fine
[00:12] <renebarbosa> did you tried to tweak something?
[00:12] <Mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I send emails with attachments from terminal?
[00:12] <renebarbosa> i have friends using Ubuntu with touchscreen displays without issues
[00:13] <laspahr> heh.. tried to install ubuntu-touch but that ended up making me reinstall ubuntu completely
[00:13] <Aaraigathor> I'm having another issue right now... and I'm assuming it's not good. I deleted my Xorg.conf and the Xorg.conf.backup  I thought I could get it to just re-create itself but no luck after a reboot?
[00:13] <laspahr> I can't scroll pages, it just selects the text, I want something more tablet-like
[00:13] <laspahr> but still with all the power of a PC
[00:13] <renebarbosa> Aaraigathor, check the aticonfig command
[00:13] <Loshki> congo76: laspahr: I used to load distros under my desk at work for relaxation. The main ones were Fedora, then RedHat, then Ubuntu. Not because I got tired, but because it has (had?) the best combo of being quick to get running, really good IRC support, wide platform support & 3rd party apps. I don't know how much longer that will all be true though...
[00:13] <renebarbosa> aticonfig --initial -f
[00:13] <Aaraigathor> just throw that into terminal?
[00:13] <renebarbosa> try it
[00:14] <Aaraigathor> Will do
[00:14] <renebarbosa> it will create a new default xorg.conf file
[00:14] <Loshki> Aaraigathor: nothing to lose by trying it...
[00:15] <Mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I send emails with attachments from terminal?
[00:15] <renebarbosa> Mojtaba, search for sendEmail script
[00:15] <Aaraigathor> renebarbosa: Looks like it fixed it! Although, under the device section it doesn't have the proper details for my card. Looks like it detects the fglrx and that it's ATI/AMD though
[00:16] <DVST8ION> Anyone able to help me with a BIOS question?
[00:16] <Mojtaba> renebarbosa: thx
[00:16] <Aaraigathor> DVST8ION: I can try
[00:16] <congo76> Lonshki: I tried Fedora for a while too, think i went to Mandrake and then Mandriva after that
[00:17] <renebarbosa> Aaraigathor, it's right. fglrx is the proprietary driver for ATI/AMD cards.
[00:17] <renebarbosa> Mojtaba, you're welcome
[00:17] <DVST8ION> I installed a second hard drive in my laptop (asus G73SW) and was dual ooting Mac OSX and somehow I renamed that hard drive in the BIOS (i think) to MacOSX and now cant find where to change it back to the hard drive name
[00:19] <Aaraigathor> DVST8ION: Where does it show that the HDD is labelled that? In the BIOS itself or in the OS?
[00:19] <DVST8ION> when i hit ESC to get the boot options and in the BIOS
[00:19] <congo76> Lonshki: then i bought an imac in 2009 and neglected linux for a few years
[00:19] <Aaraigathor> DVST8ION: What is the drive listed as in the OS?
[00:20] <DVST8ION> Local Disk
[00:21] <Aaraigathor> DVST8ION: Is the Max OSX the primary boot partition? or secondary?
[00:21] <_zoggy_> W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5 NO_PUBKEY 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32
[00:21] <DVST8ION> secondary
[00:22] <Aaraigathor> DVST8ION: And the primary is Ubuntu?
[00:22] <DVST8ION> well windows for now,
[00:23] <DVST8ION> playing around with ubuntu live usb and going to install but it is bugging me that the hard drive says macosx
[00:23] <Aaraigathor> DVST8ION: What brand is the drive?
[00:24] <DVST8ION> so i think its in the bios due to the format of the drive and it still says it
[00:24] <DVST8ION> seagate
[00:25] <DVST8ION> even in device manager it says the drive model number not MacOSX
[00:28] <Aaraigathor> DVST8ION: Okay, so the truth is that the firmware for the drive is what stores the name/label data. You can however label it in the OS and it can sometimes use that label to be detected in the BIOS and similar. I highly doubt the Mac OS was able to change the drive firmware to label itself. My suggestion would be to log into your windows OS, use a disk manager (not sure if the default device/disk manager can do this) and manually
[00:29] <Aaraigathor> DVST8ION: If the default disk manager cannot, or if you cannot find another able to, then try booting your Ubuntu Live and using gparted to relabel the volume.
[00:30] <Bashing-om> _zoggy_: you need to install GPG Key(s) -> gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv 40976EAF437D05B5 , gpg --export --armor 40976EAF437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add -  <- . (the end dash is required).
[00:30] <Aaraigathor> DVST8ION: You'll need to be sure that if you go the gparted way you unmount the drives before you can relabel them
[00:33] <Aaraigathor> Someone was asking about Pentesting earlier, still need any help? I only caught part of it
[00:34] <Muchacha> Is someone going to take the free course "Introduction to Linux" on edX?
[00:34] <racho> Muchacha, it is called man pages ;)
[00:34] <Aaraigathor> lol
[00:35] <Muchacha> racho: is that a joke?
[00:35] <TJ-> DVST8ION: I've just seen your original question. The reason you see "MacOSX" in the UEFI boot menu is because that was the title you assigned to the UEFI boot-manager entry for OSX.  However, the cause of Ubuntu labelling a 'hard drive' as "MACOSX" is not the UEFI boot entry, but because a/the file-system contained on that particular drive has a file-system label attached. A single hard drive can contain many file-systems and in that case, Ubuntu GUI file-manager
[00:35] <TJ-> will show disk icons with the file-system labels for each
[00:35] <racho> Muchacha, no...if you invest enough time you'll see that man pages actually teach more than every Linux course
[00:36] <racho> the only problem is that they lack examples...curse you BSDs and your examples
[00:37] <Aaraigathor> I'm running a RAID0 array for my Ubuntu 14.04 installation, but I forgot to make my swap as RAID0 so I have 2 seperate swap partitions, 1 on each drive, and they are detected as priority 1 and 2. Is there any way to go back and turn those swaps into RAID0 without a reinstall of the entire OS?
[00:38] <Muchacha> racho: allright, thank you for the tip, but I think the course will give me solid intro to Linux, from there, I hope to expand my knowledge with man pages
[00:38] <TJ-> Aaraigathor: RAID0 ... striped? or do you mean RAID1 mirrored?
[00:39] <racho> Muchacha, by all means take it..it will be good and it will give you a solid foundation in Linux...if you want more man pages and mailing lists :)
[00:39] <Aaraigathor> TJ-: striped
[00:39] <CK__> Guys I'm thinking about switching to Ubuntu, and the only thing that has been stopping me in the past few years is Altium Designer that I use for work. I tried running it in Wine but it doesn't work for some reason. Is there a way to make it work with Wine under Ubuntu?
[00:40] <Aaraigathor> What is Altium? There likely is a linux version or alternative
[00:40] <TJ-> Aaraigathor: You can "swapoff" and then create the RAID0 device, then "swapon"... ensuring you correct the references in "/etc/crypttab" and "/etc/fstab" as necessary.
[00:40] <racho> Aaraigathor, RAID0 is practically useless..you can achieve the same "data safety" with btrfs fs and snapshots...
[00:40] <Muchacha> does somebody recognize this sentiment? people seeing you as a hacker when starting command line in the public.
[00:40] <[conrad]> Hello everyone. Is it possible to override the maximize button in the window control so you can define the resolution you'd like when hitting maximize, or, if that is not possible, have it so that a new button is available that I could use to accomplish the same thing?
[00:41] <Aaraigathor> racho: I believe you are referring to RAID1
[00:41] <Aaraigathor> TJ-: Is there an easy way to correct those references?
[00:42] <racho> Aaraigathor, not really
[00:42] <Muchacha> sudo apt-get install porn
[00:42] <Muchacha> exit
[00:42] <Muchacha> exit
[00:42] <Muchacha> exit
[00:42] <Muchacha> doesn't work
[00:42] <Aaraigathor> lol
[00:42] <TJ-> Aaraigathor: edit the files to point to the MD device rather than the raw SATA/SCSI device
[00:44] <Aaraigathor> TJ-: Which files need to be edited? I'm still learning the more indepth side of linux, I've got the basics down but that is a little beyond me. I understand what an MD device is and their labels, and that I would need to re-reference to them. But what files and where? Sorry =/
[00:44] <CK__> Aaraigathor: Altium is tool for electronics engineering. Making schematics, pcbs and etc. Linux alternatives for Altimum are really bad and can't even compare to the Altium...
[00:45] <Aaraigathor> CK__: So like, AutoCAD? Or Corel Draw? or am I totally off
[00:45] <CK__> Aaraigathor: Something like that, it's a CAD but not like those two. Google for Altium Designer and you will see.
[00:45] <malohhree> I am running Xubuntu 14.04 on an Asus Eeepc. How do I use my camera? Do I need to download software for it? What is the best software for that?
[00:46] <Loshki> CK__: if wine won't work, you can consider virtualbox...
[00:46] <Aaraigathor> CK__: I have a close friend who is an electrical engineer and I know he uses linux a lot so I'm assuming he must use a linux based program for those sorts of things. I'll give him a call right now
[00:46] <TJ-> Aaraigathor: first, check if there are any swaps in action "cat /proc/swaps". If so, and they are on those devices, stop them with "sudo swapoff -a"
[00:47] <Pupeno> How can I get PostgreSQL 9.1 to run in Ubuntu 12.04?
[00:47] <Pupeno> 14.04
[00:47] <CK__> Aaraigathor: I know about Eagle and other two softwares that work for linux but they are not even close to Altium. Also I already have way too much stuff pre-made for Altium that it would take me a year to convert all of that stuff back to Eagle or KiCad or any other software...
[00:48] <CK__> Loshki: Wouldn't running it in VB make program run really slow or use way too much resources? I don't know so I'm asking... :)
[00:48] <Aaraigathor> CK__: Okay, unfortunately I don't know then. My friend isn't at his phone right now either. Hopefully someone else can give you a hand
[00:48] <TJ-> Aaraigathor: Now, create the MD array by identifying the device names of the raw devices and then using "sudo mdadm --create /dev/mdX --raid-level=0 --metadata=1.0 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdX /dev/sdY". Replace "/dev/mdX" and "/dev/sdX /dev/sdY" as appropriate. "mdX" should not clash with any existing MD. You can check what is there already with "cat /proc/mdstat"
[00:49] <Aaraigathor> TJ-: Is there a gui I can use for this? for creating the MD array?
[00:49] <TJ-> Aaraigathor: Argggghhh no!
[00:50] <TJ-> Aaraigathor: GUIs are useless for this
[00:50] <CK__> Aaraigathor: Ok. Thanks anyway... So if Wine doesn't do the trick, I'm left with virtual box which is basicly the same thing as me rebooting the system to win just to do some work in Altium :\
[00:50] <Loshki> CK__: yes it would. I think there's a 4 or 5x performance penalty. That mattered more when people didn't have multiple cores and tens of gigabytes of memory available to throw at the problem...
[00:50] <racho> Aaraigathor,  http://michal.karzynski.pl/blog/2009/11/18/mdadm-gui-via-webmin/
[00:51] <CK__> Darn it... so I guess I will be stuck with windows and multiboot for some time until I find a way to run it under ubuntu... :\
[00:51] <Loshki> CK__: the big difference is virtualbox runs in a window, so you have windows running *simultaneously* side-by-side with Ubuntu. Like I say, if you have the iron, it works really well...
[00:51] <CK__> Thanks anyways guys
[00:53] <CK__> Loshki: I know but Altium uses enough resources as it is at the moment, especially when rendering 3d preview of the circuit boards so running it in virtual box would make it even worse... and probably unstable too... :\
[00:53] <Loshki> CK__: virtualbox is free & easy to install. You might want to experiment with it. Another possibility is to do the reverse: run windows on the hardware, and ubuntu under virtualbox under windows, if you see what I mean.
[00:54] <Aaraigathor> TJ-: Haha okay so I've disabled the swaps. Can you explain to me what the "--metadata" tag means?
[00:54] <ovnicraft> hello i recently install nvidia drivers (using .run file from nvidia site) so when reboot login screen is not showed, so i try to get any log from tty2... no clues
[00:54] <ovnicraft> any hint to get the error ?
[00:54] <ovnicraft> i check Xorg log
[00:55] <TJ-> Aaraigathor: "man mdadm" then "/--metadata="
[00:55] <Jeffrey_f> CK__: I wouldn't run anything that would be CPU intensive in virtualbox.   It just isn't meant for that unless you have enough memory and cpu cores you can give the virtual machine.
[00:56] <CK__> Yea I see the problem there. I hope I will find some tutorial to run Altum under Ubuntu and I hope it works... otherwise I'm screwed... :\
[00:56] <CK__> THank you guys for your help!
[00:58] <Aaraigathor> TJ-: So, after that I create the array, what is my next step?
[01:04] <TJ-> Aaraigathor: if it is active (check with "cat /proc/mdstat") make it into a swap device with "sudo mkswap /dev/mdX"
[01:05] <Aaraigathor> TJ-: Done!
[01:08] <RainMan28> When I ssh into my ubuntu box I get a message about my current Hardware Enablement Stack (HWE) going out of support soon and that I should upgrade from 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS via sudo do-release-upgrade
[01:08] <RainMan28> when i try that, it says no new release found
[01:10] <TJ-> Aaraigathor: now you need to ensure the reference to the swap partition in "/etc/fstab" now points to the MD device
[01:10] <TJ-> Aaraigathor: it is possible the current reference is to a cryptswap device, in which case you can leave fstab alone and instead edit "/etc/crypttab"
[01:11] <Aaraigathor> TJ-: How can I tell if it is referenced to a cryptswap device?
[01:12] <TJ-> Aaraigathor: because you'll see a line mentioning swap
[01:12] <TJ-> Aaraigathor: something like "cryptswap1 /dev/sda4 /dev/urandom swap,cipher=aes-cbc-essiv:sha256"
[01:14] <Aaraigathor> TJ-: Okay, in which case I would just need to ensure that /etc/cryptswap is referencing to the right md device?
[01:14] <TJ-> Aaraigathor: that entry will be in "/etc/cryptswap" by the way... the place you need to edit
[01:14] <TJ-> Aaraigathor: correct
[01:14] <Aaraigathor> TJ-: Perfect. There isn't anywhere else I would need to edit?
[01:14] <TJ-> Aaraigathor: correction, ... will be in "/etc/crypttab"
[01:14] <TJ-> Aaraigathor: no, that is it
[01:16] <Aaraigathor> TJ-: Do I edit crypttab or cryptswap?
[01:18] <Jeffrey_f> !eol | RainMan28
[01:18] <TJ-> Aaraigathor: "/etc/crypttab" ... the other file doesn't exist, that was my typo
[01:19] <RainMan28> I'm on 12.04 LTS and getting a warning about upgrading to 14.04 whenever I ssh into my box. When I try doing sudo do-release-upgrade as suggested, it tells me "No new release found"
[01:19] <RainMan28> Jeffrey_f: that article seems really outdated
[01:19] <RainMan28> I'm on 12.04 LTS
[01:19] <Jeffrey_f> RainMan28: did you do sudo apt-get update first?
[01:20] <RainMan28> yes
[01:20] <Aaraigathor> TJ-: Thank you very much! Really appreciate your help
[01:22] <Jeffrey_f> RainMan28: how about    sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:22] <Aaraigathor> Does anyone know how to get/install freshplayerplugin? To get the latest flash for firefox
[01:22] <TJ-> RainMan28: I think the message you are seeing may be more than a little confusing. As I understand it, when 14.04.1 is released 12.04.4 is to be EOL because there will be an 12.04.5 based on 14.04.1 HWE... I think you just need to upgrade the HWE
[01:22] <Ben64> RainMan28: 14.04.1 isn't scheduled until July 24th, which is when the upgrade from 12.04 will appear
[01:23] <RainMan28> thanks guys
[01:23] <TJ-> RainMan28: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#A12.04.5_.2B-_14.04_Hardware_Enablement_Stack_Policies_and_Procedures
[01:23] <RainMan28> I saw the message about support ending on August 7th, 2014 and got SCURRED
[01:24] <RainMan28> ok should I run this then: sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-trusty libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-trusty xserver-xorg-lts-trusty linux-image-generic-lts-trusty
[01:24] <RainMan28> or just wait until July 24th?
[01:26] <pl1x> whats the best linux distribution for developers?
[01:26] <sakang> ubuntu?
[01:28] <F-U-C-K-israel> FUCK İsrael
[01:28] <pl1x> sakang: yeah, but i also may want to try something else
[01:41] <patrick__> hairy chest is the best
[01:42] <patrick__> heh
[01:45] <patrick__> hairy chest is the best
[01:45] <patrick__> hairy chest is the best
[01:45] <patrick__> lol
[01:48] <genii> patrick__: This is the Ubuntu support channel. It's not really a place for the discussion you seem to want to have.
[01:48] <patrick__> ok
[01:48] <patrick__> sorry
[01:49]  * genii slides patrick__ a fresh coffee and goes back to working
[01:50] <bornagaintexan> since ubuntu comes standard with python.. does that mean i can ask a python question in here?
[01:52] <genii> bornagain: You can try. Ideally it would be something Ubuntu-specific. And of course there is a channel which is devoted only to python which might be better to ask in
[01:52] <patrick__> genii, i have windows 8 laptop on toshiba
[01:52] <genii> ( which would be #python of course )
[01:52] <patrick__> genii, do i need to partition the drive to install ubuntu?
[01:52] <patrick__> or?
[01:53] <patrick__> and i just download or with cd?
[01:53] <genii> patrick__: If you run the Ubuntu installer it will guide you through repartioning the hard drive
[01:53] <patrick__> ok
[01:53] <patrick__> and it will make a dual boot?
[01:53] <phunyguy> yes
[01:53] <phunyguy> patrick__: back up all of your data first as a precaution.
[01:54] <genii> patrick__: Usually, just make a bootable DVD or USB stick and boot to that, and it will guide you through the installation, including installing Grub for dual booting and repartioning
[01:54] <patrick__> phunyguy, ok
[02:23] <desmond978> #coscup
[02:27] <liox_> my log /var/logs/suphp
[02:27] <liox_> [Sat Jul 19 23:25:41 2014] [warn] File "/var/www/webmail/index.php" is not in document root of Vhost "/var/www/agenciazig.com.br/web"
[02:27] <liox_> how could I solve this problem?
[02:32] <Freeder> For a sub interface on a NIC (ie, eth0:1, eth0:5) do they all need to be on the same subnet? Or can I have eth0:1 be 192.168.1.0 and eth0:2 be 10.10.0.0 ?
[02:41] <Jeffrey_f> Freeder: you can have two interfaces on two networks.  why though?
[02:44] <chaotix> hey all
[02:45] <TJ-> Freeder: alias interfaces are deprecated although you can do that. You should use iproute2 to add multiple ip addresses to an interface. See "man 8 ip-address"
[02:45] <Freeder> Jeffrey_f: for some testing I'm doing. interfaces, yes- but subinterfaces is what I'm specifically asking, on the same NIC
[02:45] <Freeder> TJ, i'll take a look, thank you
[02:46] <Freeder> iproute2 doesnt seem to be standard?
[02:46] <chaotix> i am using ubuntu 14.04, and because evince doesnt have the rotate option, i attempted to install adobe acrobat reader.  as it is not available in the 14.04 repo, i went to the adobe website and downloaded the .deb file from them.  i attempted to open it but nothing happens.  when i attempt to open it in the terminal, this is the output i get:  user@user-HP:~$ acroread
[02:46] <chaotix> user@user-HP:~$ acroread
[02:46] <TJ-> Freeder: It's been standard for a long time now
[02:46] <chaotix> sorry i cant get it to paste
[02:47] <chaotix> its two lines though
[02:47] <Freeder> tab complete on ipr only gives me iproxy
[02:47] <TJ-> Freeder: Did you read the man-page?
[02:47] <chaotix> sd
[02:48] <Freeder> "No manual entry for ip-address in section 8"
[02:49] <chaotix> this is the output:  /opt/Adobe/Reader9/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread: error while loading shared libraries" libxml2.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:49] <Freeder> 12.04, btw
[02:50] <chaotix> can anyone help me fix that>
[02:50] <painitx> Any programmers in here?
[02:50] <Aaraigathor> JT-: Are you around?
[02:50] <Jeffrey_f> chaotix: install pastebinit and do the command again but put "|pastebinit" at the end of the command and it will create a pastebin to show us
[02:51] <chaotix> Jeffrey_f, ok
[02:51] <TJ-> Freeder: Ah, you're on 12.04 ... iproute2 was renamed from iproute on Feb 2013
[02:52] <TJ-> Freeder:  in which case "man 8 ip"
[02:52] <Aaraigathor> I need help asap someone. I'm trying to do this command: "sudo mdadm --create /dev/md1 --raid-level=0 --metadata=1.2 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sda1" and it's returning error: "mdadm: unrecognized option '--raid-level=0'"
[02:52] <chaotix> Jeffrey_f, how do i know what the url is of the paste?
[02:53] <TJ-> Aaraigathor: s/--raid-level=/--level=/
[02:53] <chaotix> Jeffrey_f, when i do the command with |pastebinit after it, it tells me, You are trying to send an empty document, exiting
[02:53] <TJ-> Aaraigathor: "man mdadm" then "/--level="
[02:54] <tortib> Can someone help me with an issue I'm having with my Squirrel Mail installation?  I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Squirrelmail and set it up properly (to my limited knowledge).  And when I go to the vhost there is an index being displayed instead of the squirrelmail page.  The index shows no files though...
[02:54] <tortib> The dir it's pointing to is /usr/share/squirrelmail permissions are set to 755
[02:55] <patrick_> i have xchat, how do i switch tabs of the channels etc ?
[02:55] <patrick_> without the mouse
[02:55] <patrick_> heh
[02:55] <tortib> patrick_, CLT+1
[02:55] <tortib> er ALT+1
[02:55] <tortib> etc
[02:55] <tortib> I think...
[02:55] <patrick_> oh thanks
[02:55] <patrick_> yea
[02:55] <Jeffrey_f> chaotix: I see the command had errors....since the command didn't complete, it would be empty.
[02:55] <patrick_> it worked
[02:55] <tortib> been a while since I've used xchat
[02:55] <tortib> k
[02:55] <Aaraigathor> TJ-: How does this look? "sudo mdadm --create /dev/md1 --level=0 --metadata=1.2 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sda1"
[02:55] <TJ-> chaotix: have you done "sudo apt-get install libxml2" ?
[02:56] <chaotix> Jeffrey_f, my main issue is actually just that i need a pdf viewer that will let me rotate the document
[02:56] <Jeffrey_f> chaotix: the command will show you the URL of the pastebin.
[02:56] <chaotix> evince has no rotate feature
[02:56] <chaotix> and i tried to install acroread, but it is giving me this error
[02:56] <TJ-> Aaraigathor: that looks OK... but before you do that command, what *purpose* does the RAID device have... what will be in it?
[02:56] <chaotix> i cant open acroread, and when i try it in the terminal, i get two lines of output
[02:57] <TJ-> chaotix: have you done "sudo apt-get install libxml2" ?
[02:57] <chaotix>   /opt/Adobe/Reader9/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread: error while loading shared libraries" libxml2.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:57] <Aaraigathor> TJ-: to stripe my 2 drives' swap partitions together... long story lol
[02:57] <TJ-> Aaraigathor: OK, so you should do "--metadata=1.0"
[02:57] <chaotix> TJ-, it says it is already the newest version
[02:57] <TJ-> chaotix: OK... is acroread a 32-bit application?
[02:58] <Aaraigathor> TJ-: Why?
[02:58] <Jeffrey_f> chaotix: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1572606
[02:58] <chaotix> TJ-, yes..  there doesnt seem to be a 64bit one
[02:58] <chaotix> thanks, Jeffrey_f
[02:58] <TJ-> chaotix: Then it needs the 32-bit version of that package. Do "sudo apt-get install libxml2:i386"
[02:58] <chaotix> you are all lifesavers
[02:58] <chaotix> TJ-, ok i will try that now
[02:59] <TJ-> Aaraigathor: did you read "man mdadm" "/--metadata=" ?
[02:59] <Aaraigathor> TJ-: Yes, not going to lie though, it didn't make a lot of sense to me
[02:59] <chaotix> TJ-, that did it
[02:59] <chaotix> :)
[02:59] <Aaraigathor> TJ-: My primary stripe is in 1.2 so I figured I should just do the same?
[02:59] <chaotix> this is why linux is the best!
[03:00] <chaotix> you are why liinux is the best!
[03:00] <TJ-> Aaraigathor: if you look closely you'll see that metadata version 1.0 is stored at the *end* of the device whereas 1.2 stores it at the start. In some circumstances that could cause swap to overwrite the metadata (I'm thinking of hibernate/resume issues)... its a while since I last tested that scenario, but I always play safe by putting metadata at the end
[03:01] <Ludlow> Hello. DOes anyone know if ubuntu ppa servers are having issues again?
[03:01] <Arn> ubuntu 12.04 boot time issue
[03:02] <Aaraigathor> TJ-: Okay, so by the time you told me that, it was too late. I already successfully executed the command with 1.2 , is it too late to redo it?
[03:02] <Ludlow> 98% [waiting for headers] ??
[03:02] <Ludlow> hello
[03:03] <Arn> any body there
[03:03] <Ludlow> is there a site I can check the status of ubuntu's ppa status?
[03:03] <TJ-> Aaraigathor: you can "mdadm --stop /dev/mdX" and then "mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1" then redo it :)
[03:03] <Aaraigathor> TJ-: That'll completely revert my *ck up? lol
[03:04] <Ludlow> Ubuntu:  Could someone please tell me if Ubuntu repository servers are having issues or not right now?
[03:05] <Arn> any help on ubuntu 12.04 boot issue
[03:06] <Ludlow> Thanks for the help guys!
[03:06] <chaotix> thanks for that link showing me how to rotate in evince
[03:06] <chaotix> and thanks, TJ- for helping me get acroread working
[03:06] <chaotix> bye guys
[03:07] <Aaraigathor> TJ-: Being that I had already executed the first command (with 1.2), is that going to make any difference even if I redo it? Like, will it have any negative affect on the final outcome, even after redoing it as 1.0 ?
[03:08] <TJ-> Aaraigathor: no... by zeroing the superblocks on the underlying devices, that ensures that another "mdadm --create" doesn't get stroppy about existing array members
[03:09] <TJ-> Aaraigathor: that's a thought ...are you intending to be able to hibernate this system?
[03:09] <Aaraigathor> TJ-: No
[03:09] <TJ-> Aaraigathor: OK - I was thinking that hibernation and RAID0 don't go together :)
[03:10] <Aaraigathor> TJ-: Haha thanks for the concern :)
[03:10] <tigrang> with devilspie, how can you get it to focus the workspace you set the application to launch on?
[03:11] <tigrang> I have (set_workspace 6) (focus) which doesn't seem to work
[03:11] <Aaraigathor> TJ-: I just ran "sudo mkswap /dev/md1" and got this: "mkswap: /dev/md1: warning: don't erase bootbits sectors         on whole disk. Use -f to force. Setting up swapspace version 1, size = 3902460 KiB no label, UUID=95307473-b6e2-42aa-8d0c-ad1d72830532" What's with the warning?
[03:11] <patrick_> tigrang, barev
[03:12] <tigrang> patrick_, barev :)
[03:15] <Aaraigathor> TJ-: I just ran "sudo mkswap /dev/md1" and got this: "mkswap: /dev/md1: warning: don't erase bootbits sectors on whole disk. Use -f to force. Setting up swapspace version 1, size = 3902460 KiB no label, UUID=95307473-b6e2-42aa-8d0c-ad1d72830532" What's with the warning?
[03:15] <Radzell> Hi
[03:16] <viscera> Howcome when I open the Dash, video playback in VLC/Totem becomes choppy?
[03:16] <viscera> Transparency is otherwise fine, e.g. gnome-terminal over VLC
[03:16] <Radzell> I am using a macbook with ubuntu 14. I my appswitcher keeps coming up when I use my touchpad how do I fix it.
[03:16] <Radzell> the alt tab appswitcher
[03:19] <Freeder> TJ: still, ipr* only gives me iproxy, not iproute
[03:19] <Freeder> is it perhaps ip route ?
[03:19] <TJ-> Aaraigathor: because "mkswap" thinks you are writing to an entire raw disk, it is worried you may be over-writing the boot-loader sectors and files
[03:20] <TJ-> Freeder: no, just "ip"
[03:21] <TJ-> Freeder: "iproute{,2}" is the name of the source package. The binary tools are all keyed off "ip <some-command>", however in the later versions the man-pages are separated out into "ip-address" "ip-route" and so forth for each sub-command. It's rather like "lvm"
[03:24] <shaunak> hey
[03:24] <Aaraigathor_> TJ-: So it all went through good though?
[03:25] <Freeder> yep, thanks. i interpreted iproute as the command, not a package name.
[03:25] <TJ-> Aaraigathor: Yes, it did, it should have told you that "Setting up swapspace version ..."
[03:25] <Aaraigathor_> TJ-: Okay, so now the only step left is to change fstab then?
[03:26] <TJ-> Aaraigathor: if the swap is encrypted then you only need to change "/etc/crypttab"
[03:27] <Aaraigathor_> TJ-: Not using encryption
[03:28] <TJ-> Aaraigathor_: so the entry for swap in "/etc/fstab" points to a raw device, not a device-mapper name?
[03:30] <Aaraigathor_> TJ-: This is what is in the field now: "UUID=1425a64d-6693-4858-bb76-3a5cb19bd91b none            swap    sw              0       0" which corresponds to the old location
[03:30] <Aaraigathor_> TJ-: Do I just need to change the UUID to the MD1's?
[03:31] <TJ-> Aaraigathor_: OK, it is using the swap partition's UUID... so you need to replace that with the new UUID. "sudo blkid -o value -s UUID"
[03:31] <TJ-> Aaraigathor_:  "sudo blkid -o value -s UUID /dev/mdX"
[03:32] <Aaraigathor_> TJ-: That will give me the UUID then I can just drop it in that field?
[03:33] <TJ-> Aaraigathor_: correct
[03:35] <Aaraigathor_> TJ-: Okay, it's entered. Do I need to change any of the other fields? The one currently that has "none" has "/" under MD0
[03:35] <TJ-> Aaraigathor_: you can always do that kind of change automatically with something like "sudo sed -i 's/^\(UUID=\[^ \]\)/UUID='$(sudo blkid -o value -s UUID /dev/mdX)'/' /etc/fstab
[03:36] <TJ-> Aaraigathor_: no, that's swap sorted out
[03:36] <TJ-> Aaraigathor_: The line with "/" is the root file-system
[03:37] <Aaraigathor_> TJ-: Okay, so to be sure. I leave it as "none"? and the only field under the old swap that I needed to change was the UUID to the new MD1?
[03:38] <TJ-> Aaraigathor_: correct
[03:39] <Aaraigathor_> TJ-: Okay, so what do I need to do after fstab is set?
[03:42] <Freeder> This is going to be one of those nights, I think
[03:43] <Freeder> Did someone say they were having issues with ubuntu servers?
[03:43] <TJ-> Aaraigathor_: You're finished I think
[03:43] <Aaraigathor_> TJ-: Okay, so what do I need to do after fstab is set? Do I just reboot and it'll be mounted automatically on bootup? Or do I need to enter something to have it mount as swap now? Currently "cat /proc/swaps" doesn't show anything
[03:43] <jeffrey_f> Freeder: I saw someone mention ppa's, I think they are long gone though
[03:43] <TJ-> Aaraigathor_: do it now with "sudo swapon"
[03:44] <Aaraigathor_> TJ-: Beautiful
[03:45] <Freeder> installing 12.04 from a min install CD, and it halts (not freezes) after "Good signature from 'Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>"
[03:45] <Aaraigathor_> TJ-: I owe you one. It would have taken me a week to figure this all out on my own
[03:46] <TJ-> Aaraigathor_: you're welcome
[03:46] <jeffrey_f> Freeder: is that an LTS install?
[03:47] <Freeder> yes
[03:48] <jeffrey_f> Network is connected
[03:48] <Freeder> yes
[03:49] <Freeder> its able to conncet to ubuntu (gets several keys/sigs, as implied above)
[03:50] <Donald_ET3> Which directory are services kept in?
[03:50] <Freeder> meh, i can't select any other mirror but us.archive.ubuntu.com
[03:50] <Freeder> nm
[03:50] <TJ-> Freeder: why not?
[03:51] <Donald_ET3> Is there an Ubuntu equivalent for "/etc/rc.d/init.d/"?
[03:51] <reisio> Donald_ET3: for a path?
[03:52] <Donald_ET3> Yes.
[03:52] <reisio> Donald_ET3: does the path do anything in particular?
[03:52] <jeffrey_f> Freeder: how many times have you tried so far?
[03:53] <Freeder> just did #4 (waiting about 5 mins on the screen to progress each time), this time I selected a .nl mirror instead of a .us mirror
[03:53] <Freeder> same thing
[03:53] <Donald_ET3> reisio: I have a file which is supposed to be installed as a service. How do I do that?
[03:53] <Donald_ET3> It's a daemon
[03:53] <Donald_ET3> I mean
[03:53] <reisio> Donald_ET3: you probably want the init script in /etc/init.d/
[03:53] <reisio> but
[03:53] <jeffrey_f> any reason for not going with 14.04 LTS?
[03:53] <reisio> it has to be a script that makes sense to Ubuntu's init system
[03:53] <reisio> jeffrey_f: as opposed to?
[03:54] <genii> Donald_ET3: Alternately, look up how to use update-rc.d
[03:54] <Donald_ET3> Okay.
[03:55] <Freeder> yes, I believe it doesnt support the graphics card
[03:55] <jeffrey_f> reisio, was directed at Freeder......as opposed to 12.04 LTS
[03:55] <Freeder> Tried it earlier, several times
[03:56] <reisio> Freeder: you can mix and match kernels & graphics drivers with most any version of most any distro, FYI
[03:56] <Freeder> this is an older machine. We can try 14.04 if you like, but I'm going to ask that you hang out and hold my hand some if we do :)
[03:56] <jeffrey_f> Freeder: That's what this channel is for at times  :D
[03:58] <Freeder> sometimes yes, sometimes no :P would you like me to throw in 14 and go that route?
[03:59] <jeffrey_f> Freeder: Honestly, *I* will not be on too much longer, however, there are many others on here that will be
[04:01] <Freeder> then I'll revert back to this question- why is it halting?
[04:01] <Freeder> no clue how to troubleshoot this
[04:02] <Aki-Thinkpad> For pair progamming, I am thinking of adding voice chat into a plugin I am developing. Is there a way to do this in linux without relying on telephony technologies like skype or epiphany?
[04:02] <TJ-> Freeder: Have you monitored the log files for indications of a problem?
[04:03] <Freeder> TJ, this is an install... what logs are there?
[04:04] <TJ-> Freeder: In the installer there may be some in "/var/log/" and in the target in "/target/var/log/"
[04:04] <Freeder> there isnt a file system
[04:06] <Freeder> I pulled the status window earlier, what I pasted is the last message it pasted- nothing on the screen suggests anything out of the ordinary
[04:10] <novice> hi
[04:10] <jeffrey_f> !ask|novice
[04:10] <reisio> novice: heya
[04:11] <reisio> jeffrey_f: that's an interesting one :p
[04:11] <novice> My eclipse crashes
[04:11] <novice>  right when I set a workspace for my stuff, the thing crashes
[04:12] <novice> loading workbench is where it crashes
[04:12] <jeffrey_f> reisio: Would like to get all warm and chummy, but the channel would be clogged if everyone did it.  :P
[04:13] <reisio> clogged?
[04:13] <reisio> he sent two chars, you sent...
[04:13] <reisio> I'm going to estimate 50,000
[04:13] <reisio> try to keep it in perspective
[04:13] <reisio> and it didn't even make sense
[04:13] <jeffrey_f> reisio:  lol
[04:13] <reisio> :p
[04:13] <novice> the error detail is this
[04:14] <novice> java crashed with SIGABRT is souo_session_feature_detach()
[04:14] <novice> java crashed with SIGABRT is soup_session_feature_detach()
[04:14] <novice> java crashed with SIGABRT in soup_session_feature_detach()
[04:14] <jeffrey_f> novice: use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[04:14] <reisio> mmm, soup
[04:16] <jeffrey_f> Soup detached....no soup for you!
[04:16] <novice> how can i copy all this error detail and paste it? I'm using ctrl + c and it does not copy them.
[04:16] <jeffrey_f> novice: where are you getting that error info from?
[04:16] <reisio> novice: command_to_run_eclipse 2>&1 | pastebinit
[04:16] <novice> ubuntu
[04:17] <advx_> Hello All Good Morning, Have a great Sunday
[04:17] <reisio> advx_: y tu
[04:18] <advx_> Help:what are the messages in syslog regarding wifi CRDA?? I have set /defaults/crda to country code still ...its filling up my log???
[04:18] <advx_> reisio, welcome
[04:18] <novice> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7822997/
[04:18] <MoonSlime> morning advx
[04:19] <advx_> MoonSlime, VGM
[04:19] <advx_> I m on Ubuntu 13.10 ~ Ker:3.11
[04:19] <advx_> On an Intel NUC
[04:21] <ROTK> novice: Where did you install eclipse from? I am guessing you have the wrong JRE but it would be helpful to see an actual error message.
[04:21] <novice> im trying to find some error log that ubuntu showed
[04:22] <ROTK> how are you starting eclipse? where did you get it from?
[04:22] <novice> i got it from the software center
[04:22] <novice> i have open jdk installed, too.
[04:23] <genii> novice: What are you developing for, Android?
[04:23] <ROTK> novice: I haven't used that version. I use the one from their site due to the one in the repo being outdated.
[04:23] <novice> oh
[04:23] <novice> that could be it maybe
[04:24] <novice> BTW, i have android studio and I installed that correctly.
[04:25] <genii> novice: Couple of notes: for android, eclipse should be currently with Oracle java 7 ( not 8) and not openjdk
[04:25] <reisio> icedtea, what?
[04:25] <novice> oh.
[04:26] <novice> ok that is the issue then. I want to install java 7
[04:27] <genii> novice: You need to add the webupd8 ppa then, and then install it from there
[04:27] <ROTK> icedtea! hoping to never have to see java webstart ever again! :-)
[04:27] <novice> ok
[04:28] <Freeder> ok, last question before I give up
[04:28] <Freeder> The min install disk isnt bootable
[04:28] <Freeder> what would cause that?
[04:28] <Freeder> (just burned 14.04 min install)
[04:29] <Freeder> I just burn the iso like i burn all the others
[04:30] <genii> novice: https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/java
[04:31] <bhays> Anyone getting Drupal 7 (and/or D8) to run on Ubuntu 14?
[04:32] <genii> novice: Basically: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer oracle-java7-set-default
[04:32] <novice> ok
[04:32] <novice> do i uninstall openjdk?
[04:33] <SanDi> 😁
[04:34] <christian> yooo
[04:34] <SanDi> ✌✌✌
[04:34] <reisio> yoyo
[04:34] <SanDi> install debian new
[04:34] <Guest3875> wassup peolple?
[04:34] <SanDi> now
[04:34] <SanDi> 😖
[04:37] <novice> should i uninstall openjdk?  No issues between openjdk and oracle java, right?
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> !java | novice
[04:39] <TJ-> novice: no need to uninstall... the "alternatives" system manages which is the default
[04:40] <novice> ok.
[04:40] <jeffrey_f> Freeder: I use unetbootin to "burn" to a USB drive.  works better and cheaper than burning cd's
[04:42] <myk_> evening
[04:42] <reisio> evenin'
[04:43] <myk_> back on Ubuntu after a long stint with Mint. Love Mint, but it wouldn't complete booting on a Lenovo Yoga 2 11 i picked up today
[04:43] <reisio> well, you can have all the same software on either, since they're both ubuntu, so :)
[04:43] <reisio> not to mention you can have all the same software from either on any other OS, since they're all GNU/Linux, so :)
[04:44] <myk_> true. Just weird how I got the black screen with Mint, but that's for another chat session
[04:46] <advx_> bye 4 now ppl
[04:46] <novice> now i need to install eclipse
[04:46] <novice> i found a tut but is it right?
[04:46] <novice> http://tutorialforlinux.com/2014/02/26/how-to-install-eclipse-4-3-kepler-standard-on-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-3264bit-linux-easy-visual-guide/
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> !info eclipse | novice
[04:48] <jeffrey_f> myk_: what's the issue?
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> novice: you can search packages in software centre and apt-cache search packagename also
[04:48] <myk_> none at the moment, actually just setting up software and configuring Hexchat to automatically come here in case i do need something
[04:48] <novice> ok
[04:49] <myk_> although I would love to have Synapse working properly on this installation
[04:49] <jeffrey_f> Good to hear no problems (which is why I switched away from windows in 2006)
[04:50] <myk_> jeffrey_f, it would also be nice to be able to take advantage of this laptops conversion feature to make it a tablet. It knid-of works, but honestly, i'll never use it like that anyway
[04:50] <myk_> i did have to work some magic to get wifi and screen brightness to work, but i researched it before buying the laptop and was prepared for it
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> myk_: i use nexus7 tablet with ubuntu touch, working nicely
[04:53] <genii> novice: Missed your earlier questions because you did not highlight me in the message... no, you can leave any other java you are using. The second package from webupd8 ppa sets the Oracle one as default, but you can manually switch between any version you want to use if you leave them all on
[04:58] <Freeder> apparently, some of the issues i have come from using an ATI Rage XL video card (screen blacks out after a certain point in setting up install). I have figured out how to fix these issues via grub and initramfs updates, but how can I make these adjustments from a live cd?
[04:59] <reisio> Freeder: mount, chroot
[04:59] <Freeder> sorry, wasnt clear- i cant get anywhere past the install screen.
[04:59] <Freeder> the initial splash screen, that is
[05:00] <jellow> Hi how can I pin the kernel , upgrade manager ignore apt-hold ?
[05:00] <Freeder> and the drive is blank- I'm trying to install.
[05:00] <TJ-> Freeder: you mean the installer session itself blacks out?
[05:00] <Freeder> yes
[05:01] <Freeder> and I'm 99% sure its due to the graphics card. I now know its fixable, but the fix requires changes in grub and initramfs
[05:01] <TJ-> Freeder: There is an option to edit the installer boot menu before it start, can't recall the key to use off-hand though. I think it was F4 or F6 at one time
[05:02] <Freeder> right, i can do that, but no clue how to translate settings in the grub and initramfs files to that command line
[05:02] <Freeder> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1539055
[05:02] <Freeder> That details the changes I made that worked
[05:03] <Freeder> any thoughts on what the commandline needs to look like would be appreciated
[05:04] <TJ-> Freeder: which installer image are you booting from? Desktop, Server, Mini ?
[05:05] <tiger7117> Hi
[05:05] <reisio> hi tiger
[05:05] <reisio> rawr
[05:05] <Freeder> at this particular second? 14.04 desktop
[05:06] <DVST8ION> Hey everyone, have a question hope someone can help. Have an Asus G73SW and during POST if I press ESC to get to boot select, my 2nd HDD is labeled with MacOSX, I changed this somewhere and do not remember where to change it to something else. I have looked all through the BIOS and there is no where I can see to change it.
[05:06] <reisio> DVST8ION: don't cross post
[05:06] <tiger7117> i have ubuntu 12 Server, i have two GSM modems both two were working at a same time from same provider, but in DESKTOP Enviroment through Network-Manager.. so now i am on Ubuntu server so how can i run both GSM modems at a time ?
[05:06] <DVST8ION> sorry, just trying to find the best help
[05:08] <tiger7117> any one ?
[05:09] <genii> tiger7117: Does ifconfig show two devices like wwan0 and wwan1 ?
[05:10] <tiger7117> genii: yes it is showing
[05:10] <TJ-> Freeder: hang on, I'll boot it in a VM
[05:10] <jen232> are there any multiplayer games i can play with a friend remotely (via IP address/whatever) that i can install in ubuntu through the package manager?
[05:10] <cfhowlett> !steam | jen232
[05:11] <jen232> free games
[05:11] <genii> tiger7117: Then they are both seen and working. Are they shown as being active or not?
[05:11] <jen232> like checkers, pong, some sort of tux racing, etc.
[05:11] <tiger7117> genii: how to check from command line that are they active or not ? .. ifconfig ?
[05:12] <TJ-> Freeder: When the Desktop installer boots the first screen Offers "Try Ubuntu without installing", yes?
[05:12] <genii> tiger7117: Yes, it should have a line like:  UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1     ...or similar
[05:12] <tiger7117> genii: yes
[05:13] <genii> tiger7117: Do these connections need username and password?
[05:13] <patrick_> tigrang, hey
[05:14] <tiger7117> genii: Nop its with out password only need to put in APN
[05:14] <Freeder> Yes
[05:14] <Freeder> Both that and Install Ubuntu crap out after that screen
[05:15] <Freeder> but, i may have translated it
[05:15] <tiger7117> genii: which tool should i use for configuring it and also start at boot time ?
[05:15] <Freeder> video=radeonfb vga=792
[05:15] <Freeder> I think thats what I need... I'm not positive, but I think I'm getting further with that than I have before
[05:15] <genii> tiger7117: It often depends on the device. But generally either wvdial or pon/poff
[05:16] <tiger7117> pon/poff use by network manager ?.. btw network manager like in Desktop also work in command line ..? can create connections etc ?
[05:18] <tiger7117> i meant ppp connections*
[05:18] <genii> tiger7117: I think I would consult https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager/Hardware/3G#Mobile_Broadband_cards
[05:18] <Freeder> nope, still the same thing, where the mouse flickers on/off
[05:20] <tiger7117> genii: it support, even it work with wvdial.. little issue.. when i do wvdial wwan0 then it connect but for second when i do wvdial wwan1 then it dont connect just try it.. when i shutdown ppp0 and then wvdial wwan1 then it connect but not again for wwan0… i create conf with the name of wwan0 and wwan1 in wvconfig.conf file
[05:20] <novice> eclipse still crashes
[05:20] <TJ-> Freeder: OK, when the installer initially boots there's a graphic at middle-bottom of the screen, looks like an asterisk and a keyboard... hold down Space at that point and you'll get a set of advanced options, the first being language selection
[05:20] <Freeder> right, I've done that, and edited the command line already
[05:21] <Freeder> added video-radeonfb and vga=792
[05:21] <Freeder> what else?
[05:21] <Freeder> *video=
[05:21] <genii> tiger7117: The usual behaviour for when there are multiple connections is that the last connection brought up is the default.
[05:21] <TJ-> Freeder: OK, well that is the kernel command line you are editing... put the options *before* the final "--" ... you may want "nomodeset" to solve black-screen issues
[05:22] <genii> tiger7117: I'm not sure if wvdial can be run in multiple instances
[05:22] <tiger7117> genii: then which tool do this thing ?
[05:22] <Freeder> the issue isnt black screen on 14.04 (it was on a different one though) ... I get the orange/purple background that pops up, then it swaps to a black screen w/ the mouse arrow, and the entire screen keeps resetting
[05:22] <Freeder> I can move the mouse, but on the next flash it resets to the center position again
[05:23] <genii> tiger7117: It may be possible to make a wvdial config entry which uses both
[05:23] <TJ-> Freeder: "nomodeset" may still help... I'd suggest trying that on its own before adding more complex video-driver changes
[05:24] <Freeder> yes, I've added that as well
[05:24] <Freeder> via f6
[05:24] <tiger7117> genii: how ?
[05:24] <Freeder> (and on its own did nothing)(
[05:24] <TJ-> Freeder: You've got a very old video card there I think, so the open source drivers should handle it, but the Ubuntu live environment wants/expects 3D acceleration, and that will be very poor to non-existent for that video chipset
[05:24] <genii> tiger7117: Unfortunately, I don't know offhand. Googling may be necessary
[05:25] <Freeder> TJ-: I believe that. So how do I tell it not to look for that :)
[05:25] <TJ-> Freeder: We used to have an "alternate" text-based installer image but that got dropped, just for this type of issue
[05:25] <Freeder> I grabbed the min installer, but it doesnt seem to be reading as a bootable disk
[05:25] <cfhowlett> Freeder use the mini ISO or server for text based installation
[05:26] <tiger7117> anyone else .. who know that how to make multiple ppp connections on one server at a time .. either from wvdial or nmcli command etc ?
[05:26] <genii> tiger7117: The first thing I might try though is put two modem entries under the [Dialer Defaults] section in the wvdial.conf file
[05:27] <TJ-> Freeder: I'd recommend you use the "server" ISO which uses the standard Debian text installer.... and then once the base system is installed and booted add in the desktop stuff, which can be done pretty effortlessly with "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" - HOWEVER ubuntu-desktop installs Unity, which requires 3D... so I'd recommend one of the "lighter" non-3D desktops instead, maybe xubuntu-desktop
[05:27] <Freeder> I cant use server, this is a 32bit machine
[05:27] <Freeder> I dont' want the GUI stuff anyway
[05:27] <cfhowlett> !mini | Freeder
[05:28] <Freeder> cfhowlett: yep, and as I said, downloaded it, burned it, and it doesnt boot
[05:28] <tiger7117> genii: both same type of entries in one [Dialer Default] area ?
[05:28] <ROTK> Freeder: There is an ubuntu server 32 bit image
[05:29] <user123321> Help, my LUbuntu suddenly started started scrolling a lot with a single scroll, this happenned after sometime starting 2 VM's of LUbuntu.
[05:29] <ROTK> Freeder: You will find the 32bit server image here. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[05:29] <Freeder> interetsing. thank you
[05:29] <Freeder> wish that appeared on the main page!
[05:30] <genii> tiger7117: Thats what i would first try, yes, one for wwan0 and one for wwan1
[05:30] <genii> tiger7117: They normally would be using some MLPPP login?
[05:31] <novice> yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Eclipse works now!!
[05:31] <novice> I'm happy!!
[05:31] <genii> novice: "D
[05:31] <genii> Or even, :D
[05:31] <novice> Thank you!
[05:32] <novice> TIME TO PROGRAM!!
[05:33] <tiger7117> genii: MLPPP login means ?.. btw.. i had put same type of configurations under [Dialer Defaults] but now after # wvdial .. it has been connected as a PPP0 .. i think only by using only one Interface either WWAN0 or WWAN1 ..
[05:33] <genii> tiger7117: An alternate thing I might try is to install the bonding driver, add both wwan devices to it, then use the bond0 in wvdial
[05:34] <msx> hello guys, how do i launch unity's screen lock from command line?
[05:34] <genii> tiger7117: In for instance normal operation under Windows, the modems both connect at once and you get twice the speed, and only one login for both modems?
[05:37] <tiger7117> genii: yes one login for both .. one modem is using /dev/TTYUSB3 and other /dev/TTYUSB4.. but wvdial is showing after hitting command # sudo wvdial that it chosen first one in Defaults or might be both.. dont know..
[05:37] <tiger7117> but ppp0 is one
[05:37] <ROTK> genii: tiger7117 if it helps you googling, this is a 'standard' feature for some ISDN lines and satellite connections. Using two lines to double bandwidth.
[05:38] <ROTK> it is indeed called "bonding"
[05:38] <ROTK> i used to have isdn back in the old days, we had 2x64K which could be bonded into a singel 128K at double the cost per minute
[05:39] <tiger7117> ROTK: how will i get to know that it is now currently using TTYUSB3 and TTYUSB4 ? in one PPP0 int ?
[05:40] <genii> tiger7117: OK. So I think your ISP is using normally MLPPP under other OS. The way to do this in linux is like I said, bond together wwan0 and wwan1 and then use the bond0 device for wvdial
[05:40] <ROTK> tiger7117: I dont know how to set it up under linux so can't really help you there, except confim that 'bonding' s what you want to research. But it looks like genii knows.
[05:41] <genii> tiger7117: It is very late here, 1:40AM but I can help a little longer
[05:41] <tiger7117> hmmm.. come on genii :)
[05:41]  * genii makes more coffee
[05:41] <tiger7117> here its 7:41 AM .. didn't slept whole night :)
[05:42] <genii> tiger7117: Let me go really make some coffee and have a smoke, and I'll return to help, ok?
[05:42] <ROTK> i also stayed up late to watch the  dota2 championships :P
[05:42] <tiger7117> genii. yea sure.. Thanks !!
[05:42] <tiger7117> i am here
[05:42] <genii> tiger7117: OK, give me 5-7 minutes
[05:43] <tiger7117> genii: no problem. i will not deduct $ from your salary for this 5-7 mins :)
[05:47] <owen1> i have a camera connected directely to the router. i would like to know it's IP. how to scan ips in my local network using the terminal?
[05:50] <genii> tiger7117: Back. Firstly, install the bonding driver: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get instal ifenslave
[05:50] <genii> Put two l at the end of install, not one like I just typoed, however.
[05:51]  * genii sips his coffee
[05:52] <tiger7117> hmm.. but one more thing after this bonding will it setup new connection ppp0 and ppp1 separately or in one ppp0 as a bond ?
[05:52] <jellow> owen1, nmap 192.168.1.1-255 or whatever iprange is
[05:52] <genii> tiger7117: It will be only ppp0 but use both adapters at once for the single ppp connection
[05:53] <genii> tiger7117: Next step: echo "bonding" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[05:55] <tiger7117> after that ?
[05:55] <genii> tiger7117: After this step, please pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces for instpection so I can see what to change there
[05:56] <genii> tiger7117: You know how to use pastebinit already?
[05:56] <MoonSlime> genii: is 'bonding' the same as 'balancing'?
[05:57] <genii> MoonSlime: It can sometimes be referred to in that way, but they are actually different things
[05:58] <tiger7117> hmm. its live server.. so :) btw in /etc/network/interfaces, its showing only Eth0 Static Add
[05:59] <tiger7117> so how will bond IPs of wwan0 and wwan1.. if we don't know its IP, becoz it dynamically assigned so ?
[06:00] <genii> tiger7117: The bond0 device will have a single IP but use both devices underneath
[06:01] <genii> tiger7117: OK, so only eth0 there. Let me write a small file to add into the interfaces file, give me a minute or two here
[06:01] <MoonSlime> genii: thanks for clearing that up, following the conversation as this is of interest to me too.
[06:03] <mojtaba> Does anybody know how can I send emails using terminal? (It is gmail) I want to put the password and username in the command. (I want to send attachment)
[06:04] <Ben64> mojtaba: type "firefox" on the terminal, head to gmail.com and send your email with attachment?
[06:05] <mojtaba> Ben64: I want to have a script and put it in a computer.
[06:05] <Ben64> you're not going to find any easy way to do that
[06:05] <mojtaba> Ben64: something like mail -p password -u user -a attachment -to email_address
[06:06] <genii> tiger7117: So add to the interfaces file this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7823333/
[06:06] <TJ-> mojtaba: how about "mailx" ?
[06:06] <genii> tiger7117: And then make the wvdial.conf default modem /dev/bond0
[06:06] <mojtaba> TJ-: Is it possible to send attachment with it?
[06:06] <tiger7117> mojtaba: use Mutt tool.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MuttAndGmail
[06:07] <genii> tiger7117: Getting more coffee, back shortly
[06:07] <TJ-> mojtaba: Yes. See "man mailx"
[06:07] <mojtaba> tiger7117: I do not want to put configuration in a separate file. I want to put it in the script
[06:08] <mojtaba> TJ-: In using mailx, you need to know the name of the random directory in firefox directory. (I do not know that, as I am going to use same script on many computers)
[06:09] <tiger7117> gennii: i was thinking that why not use wvdial + pppconfig/pppconf for other ppp1 connection ?
[06:10] <TJ-> mojtaba: how do you mean? what has firefox got to do with mailx?
[06:10] <genii> tiger7117: The idea begind bonding is that both wwan appear as a single device to the computer. So there is no ppp1, just ppp0
[06:11] <mojtaba> TJ-: It has this -S nss-config-dir=~/.mozilla/firefox/kss7zqgb.default
[06:11] <genii> tiger7117: At any rate... I purposely set for now the mode to use only the first wwan and to fall back to wwan1 if wwan0 fails. But after we set the bonding up working, we can fiddle with the mode to see what your ISP supports
[06:13] <genii> tiger7117: Please let me know when you have made the changes to interfaces file and to wvdial.conf and we can continue :)
[06:15] <TJ-> mojtaba: read the firefox profiles.ini and parse the default profile... although you cannot guarantee the user is actually using the default profile
[06:15] <Freeder> ROTK: 32bit server fixed my problems. Thank you again.
[06:15] <Freeder> and TJ as well, for the attempts :)
[06:15] <Freeder> have a good night
[06:16] <mojtaba> TJ-: Is there any safer method?
[06:16] <TJ-> mojtaba: for what?
[06:16] <tiger7117> hmm.. its some thing like automatic of # sudo wvdial wwan0 … >> if don't connect then >> # sudo wvdial wwan1 .. by default in bond it will use wwan0 or connect it ..but i want that give two command in different terminal #sudo wvdial wwan0 and #sudo wvdial wwan1 .. both start to pick IP and working with PPP0 and PPP1.. :)
[06:16] <mojtaba> TJ-: for sending emails via terminal
[06:16] <tiger7117> this bond thing is not attracting me...
[06:16] <TJ-> mojtaba: I'm totally unclear on what you're actually trying to do... you started simply asking about a command-line mail-sending tool
[06:17] <TJ-> mojtaba: so what has firefox got to do with it?
[06:17] <mojtaba> TJ-: I have find a sample using mailx, and there was -S nss-config-dir=~/.mozilla/firefox/kss7zqgb.default (I changed the last one with my profile in firefox)
[06:18] <TJ-> mojtaba: "man mailx" and look up "-S"
[06:18] <genii> tiger7117: Bonding driver has many different modes. The mode you are describing is one one. Other modes it can do combine the bandwidth of both adapters in a few different ways depending on what your ISP supports on their end.
[06:18] <mojtaba> TJ-: ok, thanks
[06:19] <genii> tiger7117: As I already said, the mode I put first FOR NOW is the fallback mode, until we test. After that, we change the mode to combine the bandwidth
[06:19] <viscera> I've installed numix-gtk-theme from PPA, but why can't I select it in Appearance?
[06:20] <viscera> It only lists Ambiance, Radiance and High Contrast
[06:20] <viscera> I've tried logging out but it doesn't help.
[06:21] <genii> tiger7117: Ideally, your ISP supports mode 4 ( whats called 802.3ad) , if you like to read the section on modes at https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/networking/bonding.txt you can maybe get a better idea of where I'm going with it all
[06:22] <viscera> ah, Unity Tweak Tool
[06:22] <sgen__> how can I unpack a .deb file?
[06:22] <sgen__> I need to edit its contents before I install it
[06:22] <genii> tiger7117: There are 6 modes, some of them depend on ISP
[06:23] <TJ-> sgen: "dpkg-deb --raw-extract <package>"
[06:23] <sgen__> TJ-: thanks!
[06:38] <sachitad> QUIT
[06:38] <sachitad> quit
[06:38] <w4bcr> quit
[06:39] <helmut_> hi
[06:39] <sachitad> Hello
[06:39] <sachitad> Who's from irssi? :)
[07:00] <Senpos> Hello. I have installed Xubuntu 14.04 yesterday and got an error during updating. Screenshot: http://itmag.es/2f4jL
[07:00] <Senpos>  My trash is clean and i already did sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoremove.
[07:06] <Tiebob> quit
[07:06] <cfhowlett> !boot
[07:07] <cfhowlett> !partition
[07:09] <mojtaba> I want to make a script to copy itself somewhere and set a crontab. (but some part of the script should be run just once, may be using date command) Does anybody know how can I do this?
[07:10] <trijntje> is it possible to install python packages under ubuntu using pip or will that clash with debian packages for python libraries?
[07:16] <genii> !info python-pip
[07:19] <ROTK> trijntje: Installign with pip will get you a global packge. I'd recommend you first setup a venv, and then install pip into your venv. However, in short, yes, pip works
[07:20] <ROTK> trijntje: You won;t clash with the system libraries if you use a venv
[07:25] <trijntje> ROTK: cool, thanks. I'm looking into python-virtualenv now
[07:31] <brokenaudio> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1321421 The fix won't work for me... how do I update to a newer kernel in 14.04...
[07:53] <sakokap> ive got to run a windows program but cant do it under wine. how do i do it? help
[07:54] <ROTK> sakokap: If wine won' work, use a VM
[07:55] <sakokap> rotk whats that?
[07:56] <ROTK> sakokap: it's a magic bottle that runs windows inside a window on your linux desktop. does this software you have  require specialised hardware? https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Screenshots
[07:58] <sakokap> ROTK no i dont think it requires it.
[07:59] <genii> sakokap: Is it the program installer that won't run because it's an MSI file or something? Or it actually installed but some other issue
[08:02] <sakokap> it runs fine on windows xp. it does not run under wine in lubuntu.
[08:04] <genii> That isn't an answer to either of the questions that I asked, only another statement of how it does not work.
[08:10] <sakokap> so whats vm name in synaptic??
[08:11] <niggajones> any niggers on this
[08:12] <niggajones> fuck
[08:26] <mikhael_keehl> I'm getting a FPDMA QUEUED error.  It runs okay with Windows though.
[08:28] <mikhael_keehl> I'm getting a FPDMA QUEUED error.  It runs okay with Windows though.
[08:29] <Ridley5> can i migrate to an LTS version from 13.10 please ?
[08:31] <Senpos> Ridley5, yes, you can. Read about it here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TrustyUpgrades
[08:31] <Ridley5> thank you Senpos
[08:32] <Senpos> How is it possible? sudo apt-get remove cairo-dock tells me that there is no such package, but i still can launch it and it works.
[08:32] <narcislinux> how should i do whit this proble? http://paste.debian.net/110626
[08:34] <mikhael_keehl> how should i deal with the READ FPDMA QUEUED  error?
[08:35] <ballock> mikhael_keehl: doesn't sound like an error
[08:35] <ballock> where are you getting it?
[08:38] <mikhael_keehl> ballock: At boot time. It says something like ata2.00: status: {DRDY ERR } error: { UNC} failed command: READ FPDMA QUEUED
[08:42] <ballock> mikhael_keehl: that sounds more valid, DRDY ERR is drive not ready
[08:42] <ballock> what's the machine/hdd controller?
[08:42] <mikhael_keehl> ballock: I'm kinda new to this linux thing. How do I determine that?
[08:43] <ballock> what's on your invoice?
[08:43] <ballock> (it's not a linux thing what the PC is)
[08:44] <soze123> I couldn't find any information about unity panel applet api for c++, does anyone happen to know?
[08:45] <mikhael_keehl> ballock: I've been using this laptop for a while now. Here's the spec http://shopap.lenovo.com/ph/en/laptops/lenovo/g-series/g480/#tab-tech_specs
[08:45] <mikhael_keehl> ballock: Doesn't say anything about a machine/hdd controller though.
[08:51] <ballock> mikhael_keehl: ok, so it's a Lenovo G480. The chipset is googlable, and the hdd controller seems to be supported fine in Linux
[08:51] <ballock> particularly, in the latest Ubuntu 14.04 release. Is that what you're trying to use?
[08:54] <ballock> mikhael_keehl: you can try https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/550559/comments/119
[08:55] <ballock> seems it might be a problem with the SSD drive
[08:55] <ballock> these used to have had some hardware issues in the past
[08:56] <mikhael_keehl> ballock: I don't seem to have  SATA3.0 Mode in BIOS. But there is something that says SATA Controller working mode. and it is set to AHCI, I can change it to compatible, is that the same thing?
[08:58] <mikhael_keehl> ballock: Nah, still the same thing
[09:00] <ballock> mikhael_keehl: no, it's not, you're better off with AHCI speed-wise
[09:00] <mikhael_keehl> I've found something similar https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/122588
[09:00] <ballock> which HDD/SSD did you get? Is it Ubuntu 14.04 or something earlier?
[09:01] <mikhael_keehl> Yeah, Ubuntu 14.04
[09:01] <mikhael_keehl> ballock: Yeah, Ubuntu 14.04
[09:01] <ballock> mikhael_keehl: doesn't seem you're on a Marvel controller, though
[09:02] <ballock> I guess there's no chance to post the whole of dmesg to a pastebin or sth?
[09:03] <mikhael_keehl> ballock: I can type it in
[09:04] <ballock> mikhael_keehl: well, that's like 4 pages of typing
[09:05] <mikhael_keehl> ballock: uhhm, what part do you need to look at?
[09:06] <ballock> anything that's relevant...
[09:06] <mikhael_keehl> ballock:  says here BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0.30-generic,hmmm, There also something here that says Scanning 1 areas for low memory corruption Base memory trampoline at [ffff8800000970000]
[09:08] <mikhael_keehl> ballock: There a line that says No NUMA configuration found. One line says ACPI: If an ACPI driver is available for this device, you should use it instead of the native driver. lpc_ich: Resource conflict(s) found affecting gpio_ich
[09:09] <mikhael_keehl> ballock: Then it goes back to the error ata2.00: status: { DRDY ERR} error: { ABRT } failed command: READ FPDMA QUEUED
[09:09] <Dudytz> hi all .. I am searching for an alternative to openvpn, is there a lightweight and "easy to setup" open source alternative?
[09:10] <ballock> mikhael_keehl: lpc_ich conflict with gpio_ich seems fishy, ich is the motherboard controller, a conflict could cause hdd outage
[09:10] <mikhael_keehl> ballock: If it helps, I can boot just fine in Windows
[09:11] <ballock> mikhael_keehl: it does, but does not solve the issue
[09:13] <foofoobar> Hi. The special keys on my usb keyboard do not work under ubuntu, what can I do to solve this ?
[09:13] <mikhael_keehl> ballock: How should we proceed regarding this one?
[09:14] <ballock> mikhael_keehl: when does the error go off? Did you manage to install Ubuntu or is it an installer message?
[09:15] <mikhael_keehl> ballock: I managed to install Ubuntu, I've been using it for about a month now
[09:16] <mikhael_keehl> ballock: Usually Ubuntu freezes, but I just change to another tty, like tty 6 or so and go back to kinda fix it
[09:16] <coreyfarrell> hello everyone, I'm learning to build a .deb for my software so I can install it on my devel machine (in production it uses RPM).  I think I just got the build working, but find it very annoying that '..' is the output directory.  How can I change this?
[09:16] <Dudytz> wow, I found it ... the name is tinc
[09:16] <mikhael_keehl> ballock: The error/message goess of upon selecting to boot to Ubuntu
[09:19] <mikhael_keehl> ballock: Should I just re-install Ubuntu though? Hopefully, there is an alternative as there are files in there that I haven't backed up
[09:19] <Nickd55345353> is linux the safest os?
[09:19] <Nickd55345353> the most secure one?
[09:19] <ballock> mikhael_keehl: Just after BIOS try hitting the Shift key and try booting some older kernel.
[09:20] <mikhael_keehl> ballock: I wonder what triggered this error,
[09:20] <ballock> The only thing that comes to my mind in such a scenario is that either there's been a kernel update with a regression bug
[09:21] <ballock> or something broke in the hardware that's not just yet visible in Windows
[09:21] <Jeffrey_f> Nickd55345353: In comparing it to Windows.......It would be like comparing an open field (windows) to a small bunker (Linux)
[09:21] <Nickd55345353> i mean
[09:21] <ballock> mikhael_keehl: For backing up the data you can try running the GUI installer
[09:22] <Nickd55345353> of all the oses that exist
[09:22] <Nickd55345353> linux is the safest right?
[09:22] <Nickd55345353> i have an argument with a friend
[09:22] <ballock> mikhael_keehl: if the installer does not boot, that's probably hardware
[09:22] <mikhael_keehl> ballock: okay
[09:22] <ballock> (as it booted when you installed it)
[09:23] <mikhael_keehl> ballock: I gues it has something to do with the kernel
[09:23] <ballock> otherwise, back up your data first :)
[09:23] <ballock> and then you can try swapping the kernel in some smart way :)
[09:24] <mikhael_keehl> ballock: I tried selecting the "Advanced options for Ubuntu" then selecting a older kernel version, it booted just fine
[09:24] <ballock> coreyfarrell: Why would you like to change the behaviour?
[09:25] <ballock> mikhael_keehl: well, then, you may want to report this as a bug in bugs.launchpad.net
[09:25] <Jeffrey_f> Nickd55345353:   Nothing is completely safe.  However, Linux, by default, is safer than most OS's that try to keep a balance of user friendly and security.  You REALLY have to put an effort into borking a Linux install.  As an example: my kids, on 2 systems, crashed windows about 5 times in as many months........I have only one of the same systems (one bit a lightning bolt) now running Linux and HAS BEEN since 2007 and it is STILL ok
[09:25] <ballock> mikhael_keehl: try sorting out which version introduced the bug
[09:25] <Nickd55345353> omg
[09:25] <ballock> and mention that in the bug report
[09:26] <Nickd55345353> thats awesome
[09:26] <Nickd55345353> linux rocks
[09:26] <Nickd55345353> i dont understand why its free
[09:26] <mikhael_keehl> ballock: I'll do that. Thanks a lot mate. I owe you one. :D
[09:26] <Nickd55345353> it should cost like a billion xD
[09:27] <coreyfarrell> ballock: I want the build output to go to a subdirectory of the package, where I can add 'rm -f mybuild/*' to 'make clean'.  I'm not building the .deb for distribution, I'm building it so I can install it on my development system.
[09:27] <Jeffrey_f> Nickd55345353: It is free and open source.  Free as in free beer and free as in, you are allowed to change it to your liking.
[09:27] <ballock> mikhael_keehl: if you're visiting Wrocław, drop me a note. I need one :p
[09:27] <Jeffrey_f> Nickd55345353: and........most of the internet is run on some flavor of Linux server.
[09:28] <Nickd55345353> yes i know that
[09:28] <Nickd55345353> in2 years
[09:28] <Nickd55345353> i will be able to contribute
[09:28] <Nickd55345353> as i will learn programing
[09:28] <mikhael_keehl> ballock: I don't even know what that is. :D
[09:29] <mikhael_keehl> ballock: I mean, I don't get it. Sorry mate :D
[09:29] <ballock> coreyfarrell: add a rm -f mybuild* then
[09:30] <Jeffrey_f> Nickd55345353: ALL the source code for the OS  is available to download and inspect and modify.  MOST of the programs that are part of Ubuntu are also available from their respective repositories.
[09:30] <ballock> mikhael_keehl: Google up 'Wrocław' on Maps. If you're around that spot drop me a note for a beer ;)
[09:30] <coreyfarrell> ballock: that won't help since dpkg-buildpackage outputs to '..' instead of ./mybuild
[09:31] <mikhael_keehl> ballock: Will do ;)
[09:33] <ballock> coreyfarrell: let me get this straight. You're adding package build step to the software's makefile?
[09:33] <ballock> coreyfarrell: that should be the other way round, you know?
[09:35] <coreyfarrell> ballock: no, I'm running "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b" manually, but I don't want it cluttering ".."
[09:35] <Theory> I can't seem to find the dbgsym corresponding to linux-headers-3.2.0-67-generic in the ddebs repository (older versions appear fine). Did it not get built for some reason?
[09:38] <foofoobar> Hi. I just installed ubuntu (dual boot) besides windows 7. Now when I select Windows 7 from the GRUB Menu, it does load windows. But USB is deactivated (my mouse and keyboard shut off as soon as windows is loading)
[09:38] <foofoobar> How can this be ? I can see the light on my keyboard go off as soon as the windows loading icon is shown
[09:43] <Nickd55345353> what happens if you run malware with wine?
[09:43] <Nickd55345353> ty
[09:44] <bekks> The same as on Windows. The environment (windows, wine, etc.)  gets corrupted.
[09:45] <Nickd55345353> i tried to run a backdoor.ranky.3245.x
[09:45] <Nickd55345353> but it didnt run :(
[09:45] <Nickd55345353> my cousin has managed to run system soldier
[09:45] <Nickd55345353> why i cant?
[09:45] <ballock> coreyfarrell: sorry, can't help you. Try referring to the manual, perhaps there's an environment variable or so, never needed it, though.
[09:46] <bekks> Ask him how he setup his environment. This discussion starts to turn pointless when it comes to deliberately running malware.
[09:46] <Nickd55345353> i know
[09:46] <Nickd55345353> but its fun
[09:46] <Nickd55345353> anyway
[09:46] <Nickd55345353> bbb
[09:47] <bekks> It's nonsense.
[09:47] <foofoobar_> Any idea for my usb keyboard problem with grub?
[09:47] <foofoobar_> before using grub it worked, so I guess grub is passing some bad values to windows
[09:51] <foofoobar_> This is the problem I have: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206032
[09:51] <foofoobar_> Sadly, no solution :/
[09:54] <Jeffrey_f> foofoobar_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1709532
[09:55] <foofoobar_> Jeffrey_f, the keyboard works in grub.
[09:55] <foofoobar_> It also works when I boot ubuntu after grub.
[09:55] <foofoobar_> But when I boot windows from grub, it is not working. And before I installed ubuntu (with grub) windows was working as it should.
[09:56] <foofoobar_> USB Legacy support is enabled, if I disable it, the keyboard is also not working in grub
[09:56] <Jeffrey_f> Win7??
[09:56] <foofoobar_> Jeffrey_f, yes
[09:58] <Jeffrey_f> Windows 7 had an issue with any other OS's dual booting.  I'm thinking it was something M$ did to prevent competition at some point.  I remember trying it at one point and ending up just blowing away Win7 for good
[10:00] <foofoobar_> I have win7 + ubuntu working on a different machine, so I dont think this is a general issue
[10:01] <Jeffrey_f> just my experience.  Did you reset your BIOS to factory default??
[10:01] <foofoobar_> Jeffrey_f, no, the computer is 1 day old, I dont think this will change anything?
[10:02] <Spartacurse> Question: ARM support only availbale through crouton. Yes/No?
[10:02] <Jeffrey_f> Usually a funtion key to reset then a function key to save......just in case something was changed
[10:06] <foofoobar_> Jeffrey_f, if I boot windows the keyboard/mouse does not work. When I unplug them and plug them in again, they work again.
[10:07] <foofoobar_> Now they also work when I reboot.. So the issue is fixed by unpluggin them and plugin them back in
[10:08] <foofoobar_> This is strange.
[10:10] <Jeffrey_f> maybe the system is resetting the USB port during some point of the boot, but the device is not resetting and losing contact with the system??
[10:17] <lucas_> hi, if I install a package "manually" (download a .deb file from the net and install it), should that program be visible in "software center" after installation, so that I can uninstall it if I want to? I installed skype from the official website, and I couldn't find the installed package anywhere. Thanks
[10:17] <Seveas> lucas_: no. But you can remove it with apt-get, dpkg or synaptic
[10:19] <mastercaster> hi, I have 12.04 LTS installed together with java 6 1.6.0_31. I'd like to get into JSP programming and would like to install tomcat. Now I have read that tomcat requires sun's java sdk. Can I have 2 Java SDKs installed at the same time? thanks
[10:21] <mastercaster> oh and my current java install is openjdk
[10:31] <bekks> mastercaster: "yes".
[10:33] <mort> morning
[10:33] <mort> anyone there?
[10:36] <Seveas> !anyone | mort96
[10:36] <mort96> hai
[10:37] <Seveas> hmm, more useful factoids got removed
[10:37] <Seveas> anyway, that's supposed to say "just ask your question, if anyone can help and wants to, they will"
[10:37] <cfhowlett> Seveas spring cleaning - some of my favorites were removed
[10:37] <mort96> ahh, alright
[10:37] <Seveas> cfhowlett: that's not spring cleaning. It's dumb to remove useful factoids.
[10:37] <mort96> anyone up for some GPU driver debugging?
[10:38] <cfhowlett> !ask | Seveas
[10:38] <mort96> AMD 290x, works neatly in Widnows, horrible performance in Ubuntu
[10:38] <Seveas> mort96: fglrx or radeon driver?
[10:38] <mort96> the drivers&updates section of the control center tells me it's running on fglrx
[10:39] <mort96> however, it doesn't let me change driver, and also says no proprietary drivers are in use, even though fglrx is clearly a proprietary driver
[10:39] <mort96> running i3wm btw, though I don't think that should have anythnig to do with it
[10:40] <Seveas> check /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see if it's actually using fglrx
[10:40] <laughingtiger> help me!
[10:40] <mort96> wait, it's saying 1 proprietary driver is in use, either that was an unrelated issue, or I just remember incorrectly
[10:41] <cfhowlett> !attitude | laughingtiger
[10:41] <Jeffrey_f> !aiglx |mort96
[10:42] <cfhowlett> laughingtiger state your issue.  if anyone can help, they probably will.  be patient and check out the ubuntu forums for additional resources
[10:42] <mort96> how do I see whether fglrx is used in xorg.0.log?
[10:42] <Jeffrey_f> !xgl|mort96
[10:42] <laughingtiger> I've encountered a ghost in my system!
[10:42] <cfhowlett> !details | laughingtiger
[10:44] <mort96> Seveas: how do I see whether it's using flgrx in Xorg.0.log?
[10:44] <Seveas> laughingtiger: you need http://is.gd/Cik4BQ
[10:44] <laughingtiger> ok, here is the thing: earlier this day, I posted this issue about the bluetooth daemon being loaded on booting that I want it disabled, and none of the methods works.
[10:44] <Seveas> mort96: well, for one the string 'fglrx' should show up in it :)
[10:45] <Seveas> laughingtiger: delete the package it is in
[10:45] <mort96> a quick search for it returns no results
[10:46] <mort96> wait, it does.
[10:47] <laughingtiger> just hours ago, I removed all of them, even with network-manager-gnome, now the network icon is disappear, however, on startup, there was one message which was something like"staring bluetooth daemon, ok", now there're about a dozen of them showing on startup.
[10:47] <mort96> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7824234/
[10:48] <laughingtiger> one of them even failed.
[10:49] <laughingtiger> I'm totally astonished by this wield thing.
[10:49] <Seveas> mort96: [     2.592] (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0)
[10:49] <Seveas> looks like the proprietary driver isn't installed
[10:50] <mort96> how do I fix that?
[10:50] <Seveas> laughingtiger: you'll want to get rid of the bluez package.
[10:51] <laughingtiger> seveas: bluez?  let me check it.
[10:51] <Seveas> mort96: install the fglrx package and maybe fglrx-updates (haven't used ATI cards in a while)
[10:52] <mort96> already tried an apt-get remove and install of fglrx
[10:52] <_blk> Is there a way to temporarily unmanage a (wlan) device by NetworkManager using the dbus interface? I tried disabling the card in NM, but then I can't use ifconfig/iw because it sets RFKILL..
[10:52] <mort96> getting fglrx-updates
[10:53] <scrableis> Yo!
[10:53] <laughingtiger> seveas, there're several bluez packages in my system. I'll try to uninstall them to see if things will go back to normal.
[10:53] <scrableis> laughingtiger: nope
[10:54] <laughingtiger> scrableis, lol
[10:55] <streulma> hello, why is my HDD temperature on HP 17-e150eb so high on Ubuntu? Isn't detect HP fans?
[10:56] <streulma> it's about 43°C
[10:56] <scrableis> streulma: yep
[10:56] <streulma> on Windows it is normal
[10:56] <_blk> scrableis: it's not polite to /msg people you don't know.. especially not to call them n*****
[10:57] <cfhowlett> !guidelines | scrableis
[10:57] <_blk> cfhowlett, thanks
[10:57] <cfhowlett> _blk not polite and not allowed per the guidelines.
[10:57] <streulma> so, better to not run Ubuntu on HP pc's ?
[10:57] <cfhowlett> !fans | streulma
[10:57] <cfhowlett> !fan
[10:58] <streulma> cfhowlett white page ...
[10:58] <mort96> Seveas
[10:59] <streulma> can someone update this url at ubottu daemon ?
[10:59] <laughingtiger> thank you seveas
[10:59] <laughingtiger> ubottu, what's your name?
[11:13] <viscera> How do I make the Unity keyboard shortcuts hint thingy appear?
[11:21] <]oscar> What about bluetooth pairing from CLI in 14.04? I was on 12.04, and with a bluetoot downgrade to make it working...
[11:22] <]oscar> I need to connect a mouse/keyboard to an htpc, and I like to obtain it connected as I power up the keyboard...
[11:55] <rajmahendra> whenever i install anything in my new ubuntu i am getting depends recomment ..... but it is not going to be installed error.  when i run -f install command i am getting sub process /usr/bin/dpkg returns an error code (1)   anyone help me to solve this ?
[11:55] <yakoub> hello
[12:02] <rick7568> morning
[12:02] <rick7568> does anyone know how to get rid of a joystick completely?
[12:03] <bekks> rick7568: Throw it away?
[12:03] <rick7568> hehe
[12:03] <rick7568> good one
[12:04] <rick7568> im thinking i have to remove /dev/input/js0
[12:04] <bekks> Whats your actual goal behind all that?
[12:05] <jackarius86> hi has anyone noticed that when you write 'reset' in aterm, it doesnt actually reset, just does a 'clear' ??
[12:05] <rick7568> get rid of all traces
[12:05] <rajmahendra> enyone help me to solve issue of recommends deps when intalling  dist-upgrade
[12:05] <bekks> rick7568: Thats what you want to do, but thats not the actual goal.
[12:06] <rick7568> is there a command to get rid of all traces?
[12:06] <bekks> rick7568: No. Why do you want to "get rid of all traces"?
[12:06] <rick7568> i unplugged it, and it still shows up
[12:06] <rick7568> its causing conflicts
[12:07] <bekks> rick7568: Which conflicts?
[12:07] <bekks> rick7568: Can you please state your actual problem? :)
[12:07] <rick7568> im trying to set controls on a game, and i can't
[12:07] <bekks> Why not?
[12:07] <rick7568> it still shows up in the options
[12:07] <rick7568> is that normal
[12:09] <rick7568> its the M$ wireless usb, if that helps
[12:09] <rick7568> for xbox360 joysticks
[12:10] <cfhowlett> rick7568 trying to force M$ hardware to happily co-exist with ubuntu?  Expect failure.
[12:10] <rick7568> ya i found out
[12:11] <cfhowlett> rick7568 same for @pple
[12:11] <rick7568> im switching to a bluetooth controller now, seems to work much better
[12:12] <rick7568> so is there anyway to get rid of this M$ garbage?
[12:13] <cfhowlett> rick7568 ??? use non-M$ hardware
[12:13] <mort96> hi
[12:14] <mort96> so, GPU drivers
[12:14] <mort96> I have an AMD GPU, fglrx simply refuses to work.
[12:14] <rick7568> cfhowlett lesson learned
[12:15] <c0ffee> anyone knows what background scripts are ran when keyboard layout switches?
[12:15] <rick7568> cfhowlett but i still want to rid my system of it, the only option i know of is a complete reinstall
[12:16] <rick7568> im still very new, i just made my 1st shell script the other day
[12:17] <rick7568> so, besides a complete OS reinstall, theres no way to rid my system of this?
[12:24] <dantheman5567> I having problems with a zabbix install, it seems the apache example is missing
[12:25] <dantheman5567> following this guide - http://vladon.com/install-zabbix-2-on-ubuntu-server-13-04/
[12:26] <bekks> dantheman5567: And which Ubuntu release do you use?
[12:26] <dantheman5567> 14.04
[12:27] <bekks> dantheman5567: And what do you mean by "the apache example is missing"? Whats your actual issue?
[12:27] <msx_> /j #chakra
[12:27] <dantheman5567> the webpage says to cp /usr/share/doc/zabbix-frontend-php/examples/zabbix.conf.php.example
[12:28] <dantheman5567> but i only have /usr/share/doc/zabbix-frontend-php/
[12:28] <dantheman5567> there is no example folder
[12:29] <etronik> Hi, should my second hdd be mounted with nosuid,nodev,nofail ? I want to make links from it to my /home/user directory and use it as an extension of /home
[12:30] <bekks> dantheman5567: according to http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/all/zabbix-frontend-php/filelist the file should be there.
[12:30] <dantheman5567> couldnt agree more
[12:32] <gcl5_cp> having problem with lightdm, how do i config to autostart lxde? changing lightdm.conf "user-session=lxde" is not working.
[12:33] <the8thbit> halp me repos are broke
[12:33] <the8thbit> they give me 404
[12:33] <the8thbit> and the updater doesn't even work
[12:33] <cfhowlett> the8thbit run this command and report:  cat /etc/issue
[12:33] <bekks> the8thbit: So tell us which ubuntu release do you use, please?
[12:33] <the8thbit> bekks: 13.04
[12:33] <the8thbit> cfhowlett: aye aye
[12:34] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | the8thbit
[12:34] <cfhowlett> the8thbit 13.04 is end of life so no longer supported.   install a supported version: 14.04 is Long Term Support
[12:35] <the8thbit> hnng repos break after just over a year of support? :/
[12:35] <bekks> the8thbit: 13.04 is not supported anymore.
[12:35] <dantheman5567> bekks: is there a place i can grab that file from?
[12:35] <bekks> dantheman5567: Just reinstall that package.
[12:35] <dantheman5567> apt-get remove or something more in detail?
[12:36] <cfhowlett> the8thbit read the installation notes.  it was CLEARLY stated that 13.04 had 18 months of support.
[12:36] <cfhowlett> the8thbit thus my suggestion that you install LTS 14.04
[12:36] <rajmahendra> anyone help me with blank screen after login with new version of ubuntu ?
[12:37] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset | rajmahendra
[12:38] <rajmahendra> cfhowlett: is it after login.. i can get login screen and then once login the screen is just wallpaper noting else.
[12:39] <cfhowlett> rajmahendra hmm.  different issue then.   Ask in channel - someone else should know
[12:39] <nbubuntu> Anyone know which command to backup tar -cvpzf every single folder but with a single command ?
[12:40] <rajmahendra> i searched many but some time they say to instell but each time when i instlal i see Dependencey errors many
[12:41] <cfhowlett> rajmahendra EACH time?  odd behavior.  and reinstall is not the goto solution.  DID you verify the ISO you downloaded.  DID you verify the USB you booted from?
[12:41] <rajmahendra> hmm i had 13 version and later i do dist-upgrade then when ever i see to install i am getting dependencey recomended errors
[12:42] <cfhowlett> rajmahendra so the answer to both my questions is ... no?
[12:42] <dantheman5567> bekks: I removed zabbix-server-mysql and zabbix-frontend-php and then reinstalled with apt-get
[12:42] <jellow> how can I pin a kernel version?
[12:42] <dantheman5567> still nothing
[12:43] <jellow> ubottu | pin
[12:43] <rajmahendra> yes
[12:43] <rajmahendra> i feel 13 worked fine i think.
[12:43] <rajmahendra> may be later fter installing 14 i am getting issue ... not sure..
[12:43] <newbie> hello
[12:44] <paulo_> hello
[12:44] <rick7568> morning
[12:44] <paulo_> why is /proc/kmsg blank?
[12:45] <tux_> hello, ruined lightdm/greeter.. how to restore it? xubuntu 14
[12:46] <Guest60155> Ben64: Can you help me on the same question as yesterday ... aka an incomplete wine installation that's messing the rest up ...?
[12:47] <jellow> tux_, dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[12:47] <tux_> my login window is ruined, no graphic dress.. how to restore it? can't see the xbuntu sessione too from the menu
[12:47] <Ben64> Guest60155: i've got like 5 minutes till i got to go, you should ask the channel. maybe pastebin "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade" and "apt-cache policy wine"
[12:47] <tux_> jellow, done but no
[12:48] <tux_> jellow, tried to reconfigure and reistall lightdm
[12:48] <tux_> purged too
[12:48] <jellow> tux_, did you remove xubuntu by accident ?
[12:49] <Guest60155> Ben64: The other person who was there yesterday gave me things to type so I could get feedback.  I'm going to ask the channel, but I don't see the other chatter who was helping me
[12:49] <Ben64> Guest60155: there are over 1400 other people here though, you don't need to ask the same person each time :)
[12:50] <jellow> tux_, you should have xubuntu-desktop install , apt-cache policy xubuntu-desktop (to check)
[12:50] <Guest60155> I was asked to do a ls -la find wine.  I have the verbose from that. Who in the channel can help me?
[12:50] <Guest60155> Ben64: Sorry, but being a n00b, I get worried in changing too much - though I should
[12:51] <Ben64> Guest60155: i don't see why a ls would help, you should pastebin the things i mentioned above, and describe your problem in detail to the channel
[12:51] <Guest60155> I offer as info the following : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7824756/
[12:51] <tux_> jellow and what to check?
[12:52] <mort96> anyone there feeling like debugging driver issues?
[12:52] <bekks> mort96: How about stating your problem first? :)
[12:52] <mort96> sure thing
[12:53] <jellow> tux_,  that "xubuntu-desktop" is actually installed.
[12:53] <tux_> jellow, installed
[12:53] <mort96> basically, I get shitty FPS, and `glxinfo` tellse me it's using some OpenGL 2.1 Mesa.
[12:53] <mort96> I have tried to install fglrx, but it doesn't work.
[12:53] <mort96> AMD GPU btw
[12:54] <mort96> tried a bunch of things, installing fglrx using Ubuntu's software & updates thing, apt-get install fglrx, and manually installing
[12:54] <Guest60155> Anyone out there who want to help me with the following feedback from various commands ... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7824801/
[12:55] <mort96> Guest60155: try running `sudo apt-get -f install`
[12:56] <Ben64> Guest60155: pastebin "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade" as well
[12:56] <mort96> so, does anyone have any idea how I could fix my driver issues?
[12:57] <jellow> tux_ , I'm not sure then , Have you tried stopping lightdm and using startx from tty ?
[12:58] <bekks> mort96: Can you elaborate on the "doesnnt work" part please? What doesnt work when you do what exactly, what happens instead, what are you expecting to happen, which ubuntu release are you on, which exact driver are you using, which driver versions, etc.
[12:59] <mort96> it simply doesn't seem to want to use fglrx, I get shitty FPS in games, 'glxinfo' reports running OGL 2.1 with Mesa instead of OGL 4.x with fglrx. I'm running 14.04.
[12:59] <linuxthefish> why does opening and closing windows lag so much?
[12:59] <linuxthefish> like an hour after restart
[12:59] <Ben64> mort96: watch the language please
[12:59] <mort96> what, is 'shitty' illegal here now?
[12:59] <mort96> alright then, "bad" then
[13:01] <tux_> jellow, to obtain what... restarting the system is not the same?
[13:07] <tenleftfingers> Hello. I'm currently affected by bug #1130945 and as a result I can't install software that I have payed for. As the bug is over a year old and involves commercial/purchased software I need to get it resolved sooner rather than later. Who do I go to in Ubuntu / Canonical to get this resolved?
[13:07] <jellow> tux_, what does it say in  /usr/share/xsessions/*.desktop ?
[13:08] <tux_> openbox
[13:08] <tux_> jellow, openbox
[13:09] <tux_> jellow, forget it
[13:09] <tux_> jellow, got 3 files there
[13:10] <jellow> tux_, should say xubuntu not openbox
[13:11] <tux_> in that folder 3 files, /usr/share/xsessions/*.desktop
[13:11] <tux_> jellow, openbox.desktop  xfce.desktop  xubuntu.desktop
[13:14] <jellow> tux_, can you temporarily move openbox.desktop  xfce.desktop and leave just xubuntu.desktop in /usr/share/xsessions/ ?
[13:14] <foofoobar_> I was here a few hours ago because when booting windows 7 with grub, my USB does not work any more for windows. It's working finde under ubuntu.
[13:14] <foofoobar_> Before I isntalled ubuntu it was working every time.
[13:14] <ikonia> ubuntu has nothing to do with your windows install
[13:14] <foofoobar_> Then I had a solution: I replugged keyboard+mouse and it worked. Now I have booted ubuntu again, restarted to windows, and USB keyboard again not working...
[13:15] <tux_> jellow, during login i see only openbox xfce.. so the need to move them?
[13:15] <foofoobar_> ikonia, grub is booting windows, I guess the problem is related to this
[13:15] <foofoobar_> because it was working before
[13:15] <tux_> ubuntu use gdm, kubuntu kde, xubuntu instead?
[13:15] <ikonia> foofoobar_: grub is not booting windows
[13:15] <ikonia> foofoobar_: grub points at the windows boot loader - the same as a non-ubuntu install
[13:16] <foofoobar_> ikonia, so why do I have this problem just after I installed ubuntu with grub?
[13:16] <ikonia> the ##windows channel maybe able to offer some suggestion
[13:17] <foofoobar_> ikonia, I think I am wrong there, is has to be related to grub
[13:17] <foofoobar_> I did not change anything to windows.
[13:17] <jellow> tux_, You want to use xubuntu but it is not an option during login while openbox and xfce is that correct?
[13:17] <ikonia> foofoobar_: why ?
[13:17] <ikonia> foofoobar_: why does it have to be related to grub
[13:17] <foofoobar_> Because thats the only thing which has changed
[13:17] <ikonia> foofoobar_: that you know of
[13:18] <tux_> jellow, yes
[13:18] <Guest60155> Ben64: In http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7824915/, the first thing is the thing with  "find wine" and "find wine1.6".  The other things are the three commands you mentioned today
[13:18] <foofoobar_> USB was working flawless; Ubuntu installed; Grub is booting now; USB works in GRUB but not in windows anymore
[13:19] <ikonia> foofoobar_: grub is not booting windows
[13:19] <tux_> jellow, i installed lubuntu desktop then removed, then my login is "spartan", no dress... then handled lighdm and greeter to resolve but made only trouble...
[13:19] <foofoobar_> ikonia, grub has now took the part of what the BIOS has done before, it tells where and what to load
[13:19] <ikonia> foofoobar_: no it has not
[13:19] <foofoobar_> ikonia, maybe grub is telling the windows bootloader wrong data?
[13:19] <ikonia> foofoobar_: your best bet would be to work through the situation with the ##windows guys - then work back to see if grub could have any impact on that
[13:20] <jackarius86> hi, does anyone know how i can install apt via url?
[13:20] <foofoobar_> I bet they will direct me back here, but okay lets give it a try.
[13:21] <jackarius86> i tried installing apturl but it doesnt seem to work for me, comes up with loads of error messages
[13:21] <jackarius86> but surely there is a command line method?
[13:21] <ikonia> jackarius86: what are you trying to install
[13:21] <jackarius86> flash
[13:21] <jackarius86> flash player
[13:21] <cfhowlett> !flash
[13:22] <ikonia> jackarius86: that meta-package is in the ubuntu repos
[13:22] <ikonia> jackarius86: you shouldn'tbe using a url
[13:22] <spooky_> hola!
[13:23] <cfhowlett> !es|spooky_
[13:24] <jackarius86> wtf, why must i install software centre just to install flash
[13:25] <ikonia> jackarius86: you don't need to install software center
[13:25] <ikonia> jackarius86: please tone down the language also
[13:25] <jackarius86> ikonia: that link doesn't offer an alternative
[13:25] <ikonia> jackarius86: what link
[13:25] <jackarius86> !flash
[13:26] <cfhowlett> jackarius86 sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer (ubuntu 64-bit)
[13:26] <IdleOne> jackarius86: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[13:26] <IdleOne> or you can go to packages.ubuntu.com and download flashplugin-installer
[13:26] <jackarius86> k, thanks
[13:27] <async> hi guys! i have proble with shutdown/restart dialog. when i use power off i donts see it. who know whats the matter?
[13:27] <IdleOne> if you're getting a bunch of errors put them in a pastebin and give us the link. Someone will try to help if they can.
[13:27] <async> i am using 14.04 unity
[13:39] <async> Need help http://paste.ubuntu.com/7825015/
[13:40] <ikonia> async: what's the issue
[13:40] <tux_> jellow, tnks anyway
[13:40] <jellow> tux_, hope was a little bit of help, good luck
[13:41] <async> ikonia, shutdown/restart dialog dont show
[13:41] <ikonia> async: that used to be a problem when you tried to apply themes, I assume you've not tried to apply any themes
[13:42] <async> i am modify desktop, installed cairo-dock...
[13:42] <ikonia> that maybe has an impact
[13:42] <ikonia> I don't know for sure though
[13:42] <ikonia> but no shutdown dialog used to be common with themese
[13:44] <async> but there no errors in logs. i am using shutdown manually. i think this is bug. Can i post bug repport? Where i can do it?
[13:44] <ikonia> async: undo your customizations and test
[13:45] <async> first i need to convert p2v my  system )  and then i will test it on vm
[13:45] <ikonia> async: that's not a fair test
[13:45] <ikonia> async: virtual machines have different graphics configurations
[13:46] <async> do you think its graphics err? i think it some gui conflicts with installed apps.
[13:47] <ikonia> I suggested undoing what you had done
[13:47] <ikonia> and then testing
[13:47] <async> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1301655  i found some
[13:47] <Kevln> Hi, i have a 12.10 ubuntu and i just can do an apt-get install proftpd. Do you know why ? Have some 404
[13:48] <ikonia> Kevln: because 12.10 is EOL the repos have been removed from production use
[13:48] <Kevln> so how can i install proftp without upgrade my system ?
[13:49] <ikonia> Kevln: point your machine at a mirror that still has 12.10 repos
[13:49] <ikonia> Kevln: however the realistic answer is to upgrade your system to a supported version
[13:50] <Kevln> Yes i see but i really dont have time for the moment, i dont find a mirror, can you help me dude ?
[13:50] <ikonia> Kevln: you don't have time to upgrade your system - but you have time to install/configure/use an ftp server
[13:50] <ikonia> there is documention on the ubuntu wiki no the repo archive
[13:50] <ikonia> I'd suggest reading that
[13:51] <Kevln> Yes exactly, i have to put something in production today and i can't put offline my websites.
[13:51] <ikonia> that's up to you then, if you want to use unsupported/security risk software, that's up to you
[13:52] <Kevln> i'll do it, but tonight :)
[13:53] <Rory> Kevln: You could change your repo to point to a supported version, install proftp, then change it back
[13:53] <ikonia> that would be very bad
[13:53] <ikonia> as it would cause problems with dependnecies and break your system
[13:53] <Rory> Kevln: it might be alright as long as you don't do an upgrade or anything
[13:53] <ikonia> it would not be alright
[13:53] <Rory> You should do a dry run first and post it here
[13:53] <ikonia> it would be a very very bad solution
[13:53] <ikonia> and I strongly recommend you disgard it
[13:54] <ikonia> discard
[13:54] <Rory> Yes but it would work, and if he's intending to reinstall tonight and needs an emergency fix
[13:54] <ikonia> no it would not work
[13:54] <Ben64> or it would break everything
[13:54] <ikonia> it is an unccaptable solution
[13:54] <ikonia> using an archive repo and acceptating the risk, or upgrading are the only two options
[13:54] <Rory> It's very much a macgyver solution, I'll admit.
[13:54] <ikonia> no it is not a solution
[13:54] <Ben64> no, macguyver tends to do things that work
[13:54] <ikonia> you are creating a problem/breakage
[13:55] <ikonia> it is not a solution of any sort
[13:55] <Rory> You would have to manually install debs from archive repositories. I assume it doesn't have that many dependencies, so doing it that way is probably better
[13:55] <ikonia> no you would not
[13:56] <ikonia> it is an uccaptable solution
[13:56] <ikonia> please stop trying to justify it
[13:56] <Rory> I'm saying yours is better
[13:56] <ikonia> yours is not a solution
[13:56] <Rory> OK
[13:56] <ikonia> it creates damage
[13:57] <Rory> I've done it in the past for specific cases, and as long as you are aware of exactly which package versions you are installing, it can be fine. You could also create a PPA
[13:57] <ikonia> Rory: please stop trying to justify it - it is NOT solution
[13:57] <Rory> keep your locked versions in there, once you've worked out the dependencies
[13:57] <Ben64> that is all terrible advice
[13:57] <ikonia> Rory: last warning - stop trying to justify a dangerous suggestion
[13:58] <Rory> Fine. I retract my previous proposal
[13:58] <Rory> Upgrade to a supported version of Ubuntu
[13:59] <myk_> morning, all. I have a Lenovo Yoga 2 11" with a clean install of Ubuntu 14.04. last night, the brightness control was working, this morning it mysterously isn't. Need some help troubleshooting
[13:59] <async> .йгше
[13:59] <myk_> I have a grub parameter already configured, which is what worked before:      GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="acpi_backlight=vendor quiet splash"
[14:00] <myk_> but it seems not to work today. No idea why, all i did was go to bed, then wake up ;)
[14:00] <gcl5cp> changing "/etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf" "session=LXDE", "sudo /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-set-defaults -s LXDE", "sudo update-alternative --config x-session-manager" to "/usr/bin/startlxde", is not working when "sudo service lightdm restart".
[14:00] <gcl5cp> i use autologin because login menu not appear. how do i change session to LXDE?
[14:00] <gcl5cp> ubu 12.04
[14:01] <anil> Both of my web browsers are crashing for past 6 hours. Chrome and Firefox. Any help, please?
[14:02] <peskyrat> I heard ubuntu is bankrupt
[14:02] <cfhowlett> peskyrat it's not.
[14:03] <anil> Both of my web browsers are crashing for past 6 hours. Chrome and Firefox. Any help, please?
[14:06] <peskyrat> Anil you are a goof ball
[14:06] <tuurtyret> is ubuntu 14.04 using Mir display server?
[14:06] <anil> Lol
[14:06] <k1l> anil: start the browser from terminal and see if it brings some errors up
[14:06] <anil> Okay kil
[14:06] <k1l> tuurtyret: no. mir is beeing used on mobile ubuntu-touch only so far
[14:06] <anil> How do I do it?
[14:07] <anil> What is the command?
[14:07] <barath> Hi I need help with access my additional hard drives
[14:07] <k1l> anil: wich browser are you using?
[14:07] <barath> I am an complete novice
[14:07] <anil> Chrome as well firefox
[14:07] <anil> chromium
[14:07] <k1l> anil: open a terminal and then type "firefox". but dont close the terminal
[14:07] <anil> ok
[14:08] <anil> (process:3314): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed
[14:08] <barath> is their anyone who could help me please
[14:09] <anil> Be patient bharath :P
[14:09] <barath> sorry
[14:09] <anil> No problem
[14:10] <anil> maybe some kind of malware? i was watching porn :D
[14:15] <barath> @anil how long could I be waiting
[14:15] <anil> Well barath sorry about that
[14:15] <anil> but everyone seems busy
[14:15] <k1l> anil: try that answer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/405656/firefox-doesnt-start-in-ubuntu-13-10
[14:16] <anil> my query hasn't been answered yet
[14:16] <anil> ok kil
[14:16] <anil> thank you
[14:16] <calimero_82> hi guys
[14:16] <barath> sorry I never meant to be rude, I was just asking in general.
[14:17] <cfhowlett> barath IRC is only one support option; search the ubuntu forums
[14:17] <calimero_82> instead of accented letters I see question marks in pigdin
[14:18] <Scalpel> Sorry if this might be off topic but can anyone recommend an IRC channel search engine ?
[14:19] <bekks> !alis
[14:20] <yeats> !locale | calimero_82
[14:21] <Billi> Hello
[14:21] <barath> Hi guys, I have 2 hard drives in my computer that I cannot access they are mounted but I cannot create a folder inside of them all I can do is un-mount the drive? any help would be great
[14:22] <Billi> kann wer deutsch?
[14:22] <k1l> !de | Billi
[14:22] <Scalpel> I was thinking something more like a website, like Google or something.
[14:33] <a12> exit
[14:42] <Cherir> hi  , i  have a problem  ... my win8 wont load on safe mode i used shift + f8  / F8  no result  so i want to boot it in safe mode from grub like ubuntu ...
[14:47] <wheatthin> cherrir, safemode requires the windows 8 bootloader to load. Grub only points to that bootloader.
[14:48] <minz> yo
[14:48] <koell> Hi, I've some problems when trying to install a package on my lubuntu 14.04 LTS machine. Doesnt matter what i install, I always get http://paste.ubuntu.com/7825314/ and thats all. No error messages. What's wrong with my setup?
[14:49] <cfhowlett> koell go into software sources and choose a different mirror
[14:50] <minz> hello. i just installed ubuntu, and after one day i experienced a freeze which i could not recover from with alt+sysrq+REISUB
[14:50] <koell> cfhowlett: where is "software sources"? you mean synaptic?
[14:50] <minz> i cant seem to find anything in the logs. maybe i am not looking in the right places
[14:50] <cfhowlett> koell
[14:50] <koell> oh i found
[14:50] <koell> it is called "software and updates" here
[14:51] <minz> can someone recommend to me a place to look if the freeze happened presumably when it went to sleep?
[14:51] <minz> please :D
[14:51] <koell> cfhowlett: it is on the first tab? "download from main server"?
[14:54] <cfhowlett> koell "main server" is in the UK IIRC.  I assume you'd prefer one closer to home.
[14:54] <koell> cfhowlett: yeah thats it, thanks!
[14:54] <vkkhurava> Hi, pls help my ubuntu applications took 15-20 seconds for openning them
[14:54] <foofoobar> Hi. I'm using the i3 window manager. When I'm not in unity, my multimedia keys do not work. I look ed at xev and saw they are recoginzed correctly
[14:55] <foofoobar> but it looks like there is no service hearing for those keys
[14:55] <koell> cfhowlett: idk why, but now i can install anything. seems to be an issue with "download from austrian server" :D
[14:55] <foofoobar> I'm under 14.04 and already started unity-settiongs-daemon
[14:55] <xcrazx> hi, pls help i have problems league of legends game
[14:55] <cfhowlett> koell mirrors sometimes go down for updating and maintenance with you warning.
[14:55] <cfhowlett> *without warning*
[14:57] <koell> without warning? wtf :D
[14:57] <vkkhurava> pls help, applications taking 15-20 sec while opening
[14:58] <koell> vkkhurava: how is your hardware setup?
[14:58] <minz> [    2.359696] EXT4-fs (sda6): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro ... i believe this is what caused my crash... sda6 is /
[14:58] <vkkhurava> its i5 3rd gen
[14:58] <vkkhurava> with 4GB of ram
[14:59] <minz> now i understand the advantage of having a seperate /boot partition
[15:00] <vkkhurava> Koell: its Intel® Core™ i5-3230M CPU @ 2.60GHz × 4, with 4GB RAM
[15:00] <vkkhurava> I dont things its related to any h/w issue
[15:00] <k1l> vkkhurava: what is the systemload in idle?
[15:01] <k1l> vkkhurava: what app is it that you start? which ubuntu is that exactly? etc. etc. etc.
[15:02] <vkkhurava> issue with all apps, its Ubuntu 14.04
[15:02] <vkkhurava> mostlly i use shutter, VLC, chromium and these all start with a 15-20 sec delay
[15:03] <koell> vkkhurava: your htop looks fine so far?
[15:04] <kleinski> #xubuntu
[15:05] <vkkhurava_> CPU load carry between 7 to 20%
[15:06] <k1l> start it in terminal and see if some errors come up
[15:07] <louis_> hello: i'm so biginner that I can't be logged: i want a force pass word...and i cant took the good pass.
[15:07] <natural> minz,  hey there
[15:07] <natural> :)
[15:07] <ResupineEarth> hello can anyone help me with librewriter
[15:09] <vkkhurava_> seems no error , while running them from terminal
[15:09] <minz> hello, i am getting errors like this in kern.log: """Jul 19 04:00:46 minz-HP-G62-Notebook-PC kernel:[    1.871083] EXT4-fs (sda6): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro""" Is there a way I can check the health of this SSD? it's brand new, and I might need to RMA it
[15:09] <cfhowlett> !librewriter | ResupineEarth
[15:09] <cfhowlett> !libreoffice | ResupineEarth
[15:10] <ResupineEarth> hi i reinstalled librewriter already
[15:10] <ResupineEarth> i dont know if you can help but everytiime i open libre writer the page starts on the right hand side if that makes sense
[15:11] <cfhowlett> ResupineEarth none.  show a picture
[15:11] <ResupineEarth> ok thanks please can you tell me where to paste again
[15:11] <ResupineEarth> thanks for your help cfhowlett
[15:11] <ResupineEarth> i got it sorry
[15:12] <Cherir> i cant boot win 8 in safe mode because i have grub installed   how can i do that ( i cant login to win )
[15:14] <ResupineEarth> sorry cfhowlett how do i paste a picture#
[15:15] <matthias__> hi, why can't i move the java playback stream from minecraft into a null output?
[15:15] <matthias__> i want to record the audio from minecraft seperate
[15:15] <chan89> hi. this might be the lamest n00b question
[15:16] <chan89> i have an unresponsive nm-applet on my tray. ubuntu 12.04.
[15:16] <seven_> ubuntu is coo;
[15:16] <seven_> l
[15:16] <chan89> i can click it, and it opens the network list, but when i click on a network, it doesn't do anthing
[15:16] <chan89> i can do killall nm-applet; nm-applet from cli
[15:16] <ResupineEarth> cananyone help me with a problem with librewriter
[15:16] <chan89> but when i close the cli or exit it, the nm-applet goes away
[15:16] <chan89> is there a way to keep the nm-applet running even if i close the terminal?
[15:17] <chan89> ResupineEarth shoot the question
[15:17] <matthias__> chan89: you can put it into "autostart"
[15:17] <louis_> I took brute force for win. I  take john pert on linux...but i cant by myself crak my passeword?!!
[15:17] <chan89> u mean the startup applications thingy?
[15:17] <banister_> hi, i'm tryign to use znc on my server (so i can setup an irc bouncer) but it's not working…i set it up to listen on port 1025, to i have to allow this port somewhere in order for it to work?
[15:17] <chan89> matthias__ ?
[15:17] <seven_> i try to upgrade ubuntu 10.04 to ubuntu 12.04 and it says it is upgraded i rebooted mi pc and i get an error cannot login to sesion ubuntu
[15:17] <ResupineEarth> hi everytime i open up libre writer the page appears to start on the right hand side.  i have already reinstalled libre writer 2ce with the same thing happening.  can you help
[15:18] <matthias__> chan89: or even better nohup nm-applet &
[15:18] <seven_> nobody chat with me im so sad
[15:18] <natural> ResupineEarth, the right hand side of what?
[15:18] <seven_> nobody chat with me im so sad sad sad sad
[15:19] <ResupineEarth> the right hand side of the screen i have tried different views but still appears to be the same.  is there anyway i could show you a screenshot
[15:19] <k1l> seven_: stick to technical ubuntu support in here. thanks
[15:19] <natural> seven_, from voyager?
[15:19] <louis_> sad also
[15:19] <natural> nah it's ok ResupineEarth  - close it all, leave it installed
[15:19] <seven_> louis whats up body
[15:20] <seven_> i try to upgrade ubuntu 10.04 to ubuntu 12.04 and it says it is upgraded i rebooted mi pc and i get an error cannot login to sesion ubuntu
[15:20] <natural> when you double click on the app to open it, shake your mouse over the area you want it to open
[15:20] <natural> ResupineEarth, ^
[15:20] <ResupineEarth> yes natural
[15:20] <chan89> matthias__ thanks. but do i use that command from terminal?
[15:20] <matthias__> chan89: run. nohup nm-applet &
[15:21] <matthias__> btw still waiting on the pulseaudio problem
[15:21] <ResupineEarth> thanks for your help
[15:21] <natural> ok ResupineEarth and it openned on the left again right?
[15:21] <ResupineEarth> that was on the right hand sid
[15:21] <ResupineEarth> e
[15:21] <chan89> matthias__ thanks but i think i have to install nohup. says no command found.
[15:21] <natural> sorry, ResupineEarth it oppened on the right again right?
[15:21] <Edward_Snowden> hello
[15:21] <natural> lol
[15:21] <natural> too funny
[15:22] <ResupineEarth> yes it opened up the page on the right hand side so i have to scroll over to see it everytime i open a document.
[15:22] <natural> i saw the dating site man. you're not fooling me
[15:22] <matthias__> chan89: or do: nm-applet &  and after that;  disown
[15:22] <natural> are you in zoom ResupineEarth ?do you eman the right side of the screen, or the right side desktop?
[15:23] <natural> there are 4 desktops by default, is that what you mean?
[15:23] <chan89> matthias__ can u tell me what's the purpose of adding the & after the command?
[15:23] <ResupineEarth> the page opens up on the right side of the screen can i show you a picturee
[15:23] <chan89> yeah ResupineEarth show us a screenshot
[15:23] <chan89> that will help whoever's helping you
[15:23] <ResupineEarth> ok ill send it over to you chan89 cheers
[15:24] <matthias__> chan89: & means that it starts as a new process
[15:24] <matthias__> chan89: after that the terminal is "free" again so you can type the next command
[15:24] <chan89> share it on imgur and paste the link here ResupineEarth
[15:25] <natural> ResupineEarth, what i did, and it worked. drag the window to the area of the screen you want it. maximise using the litle box on the upper right or left of the ap, restore, and maximize multiple times, if the app moves to another part of the screen, return it to the desired location. soon the app will remain in the area you want it. it worked for me
[15:25] <chan89> matthias__ thanks
[15:26] <chan89> but i think i am still havin the same issue. i think i didnt get the concept right.
[15:27] <chan89> it's like i want to start a program/applet from the terminal, but i dont want it to close down when i shut the terminal down
[15:27] <ResupineEarth> hi chan89 http://imgur.com/1mSvuBX
[15:28] <chan89> ResupineEarth your zoom level is 53%
[15:28] <chan89> u want the doc to be centered?
[15:28] <ResupineEarth> yes please chan89
[15:28] <chan89> what happens when u have two pages of document?
[15:29] <chan89> try hitting ctrl+enter twice or thrice and see if two pages show side-by-side
[15:30] <ResupineEarth> nothing appears to be working i have put it on 100% zoom it is still the same.  ctrl+enter does not appear to solve it
[15:31] <chan89> no it doesnt solve
[15:31] <chan89> okay show us a scnrshot of how it looks at 100%
[15:31] <chan89> page zoom 0%
[15:31] <chan89> 100% sorry
[15:32] <ResupineEarth> ok
[15:32] <seven_> kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all
[15:32] <seven_> kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all
[15:32] <seven_> kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all
[15:33] <Zachary_DuBois> Anyone have an IPTables example for L2TP over IPSec?
[15:33] <Zachary_DuBois> I can connect but then it there is no internet out.
[15:34] <ResupineEarth> thanks chan89 this is a screen shot at 100% http://imgur.com/TGUBGV2
[15:34] <seven_> how to change ip on ubuntu
[15:35] <chan89> ok gimme a min ResupineEarth
[15:36] <ortsvorsteher> seven_, do you want to change your ip by hand in an terminal? Than try ifconfig.
[15:36] <seven_> how ifconfig
[15:36] <ortsvorsteher> !ifconfig | ortsvorsteher
[15:36] <ResupineEarth> sure chan89
[15:37] <jhutchins> ortsvorsteher: Please don't feed the trolls.
[15:37] <Zachary_DuBois> seven_ Why are you talking like a google search?
[15:37] <user123321> Wheel scrolling gets messed up after (some time) starting an LUbuntu VM in an LUbuntu host, messed up in both the host and VM, a single scroll results in a lot of scrolls like 20 lines o.O
[15:37] <jhutchins> Zachary_DuBois: What happens if you clear your iptables rules?
[15:38] <chan89> pretty strange ResupineEarth
[15:38] <user123321> Virtual Box
[15:38] <Zachary_DuBois> jhutchins The VPN works perfectly
[15:38] <zubir> KILL KILL KILL
[15:38] <zubir> GET KILLING
[15:38] <ResupineEarth> yes dont know what i should do really
[15:38] <chan89> check Format -> Page
[15:38] <zubir> ResupineEarth: GET KILLING
[15:38] <chan89> see if those settings are changed
[15:39] <ResupineEarth> ok i am just tryingto reset
[15:40] <chan89> okay
[15:40] <ResupineEarth> it doesnt look lkike anything has been changed and i think it is still the same
[15:41] <chan89> can u scrnsht the settings too?
[15:42] <ResupineEarth> which tab do you want to see
[15:42] <chan89> just the Page tab
[15:42] <matthias__> creating a file fixed it; thanks
[15:42] <chan89> Format -> Page
[15:43] <chan89> ah ResupineEarth
[15:43] <chan89> try this
[15:43] <chan89> http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/4091/page-alignment/
[15:43] <chan89> from that link: View -> Zoom -> Under View Layout, set Single Page.
[15:44] <Zachary_DuBois> jhutchins So do you have one?
[15:45] <ResupineEarth> Thanks chan89 that was a great help!! thumbs up
[15:45] <chan89> cheers!
[15:45] <Zachary_DuBois> jhutchins I do have the nat table setup like this: http://hastebin.com/pazowirebi.txt
[15:48] <koell> is it possible to run ANY application as daemon in background?
[15:52] <Zachary_DuBois> koell Yes (and no). If you set it up correctly.
[15:53] <seven_> i chat like an google search
[15:56] <seven_> kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all
[15:56] <seven_> kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all
[15:56] <seven_> kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all kill all
[15:56] <Guest74307> any medical students in Hungary ?
[15:57] <seven_> nobody chat with me
[15:57] <user123321> seven_, I'm here.
[15:57] <minz> seven_, sure what would you like to chat about
[15:57] <trijntje> seven_: please behave, if you want to chat you can join #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:57] <user123321> oh well -.-
[15:59] <seven_> user123321:hello
[16:00] <seven_> user123321:hello
[16:01] <seven_> nobody chat with me
[16:01] <multimedia> hi
[16:01] <Zachary_DuBois> So anyone with a L2TP over IPSec vpn that can lend me a hand with IPTables
[16:01] <seven_> i try to upgrade ubuntu 10.04 to ubuntu 12.04 and it says it is upgraded i rebooted mi pc and i get an error cannot login to sesion ubuntu
[16:02] <seven_> how to change ip on kubuntu 10.04
[16:03] <user123321> seven_, hi.
[16:04] <seven_> user123321: do you want to be friends?
[16:04] <multimedia> hi  user1233321
[16:04] <user123321> sure why not.
[16:04] <seven_> how to change ip on ubuntu
[16:05] <seven_> user123321:how to change ip on ubuntu i don't know
[16:06] <wheatthin> seven_, through network manager in control settings
[16:06] <seven_> i don't know in kde
[16:07] <omari> ubuntu
[16:07] <omari> hey
[16:07] <omari> hiho
[16:08] <multimedia> seven i think that i have a solution for your problem
[16:08] <vt> hiho
[16:08] <multimedia> hi vt how are you
[16:08] <vt> i'm good and you ?
[16:09] <mosilon> ciao
[16:09] <Jeffrey_f> !hi|mosilon
[16:09] <multimedia> well. you know to speak french
[16:10] <vt> oui je parle français
[16:10] <HelloWorld321> I'd like to see which packages depend on an installed package.  I'm supposing it got installed as a dependency, and I'd like to know for what.
[16:10] <mosilon> ci sono italiani?
[16:10] <ortsvorsteher> !it
[16:10] <multimedia> cool que fais tu dans la vie?
[16:10] <ortsvorsteher> !fr
[16:10] <[Jano]> mosilon: Vai su #ubuntu-it
[16:10] <HelloWorld321> !en
[16:12] <nandran> what do you guys do with your exspess card slots on your laptop?
[16:12] <nandran> any sd card readers that work well with linux?
[16:13] <Guido1> Hello, I have a littlle trouble with my Lenovo e540 with xubuntu. If i close the laptop it goed in a sleep or hypernate moode and i can't get it out of it any more
[16:13] <Guido1> nandran: i have an lenovo e540 with a cardreader. it works out of the box
[16:15] <nandran> is that the lenovo brand card reader?
[16:16] <HelloWorld321> "You can use [apt-cache rdepends jetty] to see what depends on jetty. This will show both depends & recommends, so you may want to check through the list of packages to see what the relationship is with jetty."
[16:17] <Guido1> nandran: could be. think you can find more information on the website.
[16:21] <zubir> wat isjetty
[16:23] <tristan_> #ubuntu-es
[16:23] <Guido1> Hello, I have a littlle trouble with my Lenovo e540 with xubuntu. If i close the laptop it goed in a sleep or hypernate moode and i can't get it out of it any more. how can i solve it?
[16:32] <bblaze> greetings!    can anyone tell me how to get a firewire device to be recognized in WINE?
[16:33] <Guest37517>  Can't open device /dev/mixer, mixer volume and mute unavailable.
[16:33] <Guest37517> any one  know about this
[16:33] <Guest37517> ?
[16:35] <chan89> try amixer from terminal
[16:36] <chan89> if u want to control audio, amixer -D pulse scontents
[16:37] <Guest37517> how  i can use amixer with tvtime?
[16:40] <chan89>  sorry.. dont know abt that :(
[16:40] <Guest37517> i use tvtime to see  TV
[16:41] <Guest37517> when i put mi tv i got these error
[16:41] <Guest37517>  Can't open device /dev/mixer, mixer volume and mute unavailable.
[16:41] <Guest37517> and i only can see the TV
[16:57] <r_2_z2> test
[17:00] <r_2_z2> test
[17:04] <_ssl> hi, i am running ubuntu 13.10 on a beaglebone black and have trouble getting an old wifi usb stick to work and i think it might not be the fault of the hardware, thus im looking for help in here. a couple seconds after plugging the stick in, the beaglebone freezes. i was able to get some log messages from right before the freeze: http://pastebin.com/1E9yGmFp
[17:05] <_ssl> any suggestions on how to solve this issue?
[17:06] <Paddy_NI> Hello I am using a "Logitech, Inc. Webcam C270" on Ubuntu 14.04 64bit.  The operating system does not seem to support the camera out of the box so I had to do a little research; it seems that I had to create this file "/etc/modprobe.d/uvcvideo.conf" and add this line to the file "options uvcvideo nodrop=1".  I also had to plug the camera in to a USB 2.0 as it fails to work with USB 3.0.  Finally I have to load this module "uvcvideo". After
[17:06] <Paddy_NI>  all of that my camera works perfectly, however after a reboot I have to reload the module "sudo modprobe uvcvideo" and unplug the camera and plug it back in again.
[17:06] <Paddy_NI> Would anyone have any ideas as to where I would start to troubleshoot this?
[17:06] <Guest92076> Hi, im trying to copy over a 3.6 gig zip to a 4 gig flash drive, but its going verrrrry slow (1.8 mb/s), is there anyway to significantly improve this?
[17:07] <xangua> buy a faster flash drive
[17:07] <Guest92076> I cant afford 30 minute copies, because I need to make 100 flashdrives within a couple of hours
[17:07] <Guest92076> xangua, is it the flashdrives fault?
[17:08] <xangua> not all flashdrives have the same speed
[17:09] <sandez2003> !list
[17:09] <bekks> Guest92076: then you will have to invest several thousands of dollars for reasonably fast flash drives.
[17:14] <Capprentice> Hi! is there any way to get a older version of Vidalia bundle on Ubuntu? The webup8 repo does not have older version of Tor! I just want the Vidalia Control Panel back!!!
[17:15] <omerraja> hello
[17:16] <omerraja> how can we register our nickname
[17:16] <zykotick9> !register | omerraja
[17:18] <ulkesh> So I've tried a few mirrors, nothing is helping.  In Ubuntu 14.04, as of today, trying to do a sudo apt-get update, it stalls at 99% [Waiting for headers].  Anyone have any ideas on what to do?
[17:18] <GTB3NW> tried pinging the mirrors?
[17:18] <GTB3NW> see if it's software or network related
[17:18] <ulkesh> GTB3NW: I get through most of the updates on the mirrors, it's when it's connected to ppa.launchpad.net
[17:19] <GTB3NW> ulkesh, can you ping it?
[17:19] <Paddy_NI> !register | omerraja
[17:19] <ulkesh> GTB3NW: of course i can ping it, it's not a network issue (at least on my end)
[17:19] <GTB3NW> if not, run a MTR to see where it's being dropped
[17:20] <omerraja> !register
[17:21] <_ssl> hi, i am running ubuntu on a beaglebone black and have trouble getting an old wifi usb stick to work and i think it might not be the fault of the hardware, thus im looking for help in here. a couple seconds after plugging the stick in, the beaglebone freezes. i was able to get some log messages from right before the freeze: http://pastebin.com/cpRHE6GF what can i do to get it working?
[17:21] <ulkesh> It's strange, when this happens it's always right after or as it's getting translations from the main launchpad server...I see this from time to time, it eventually clears up, but it always seems like it's on launchpad's side.
[17:22] <ulkesh> actually, it may be steam, not launchpad...checking
[17:23] <ulkesh> yup, nevermind, GTB3NW, looks like it's steam's repo: W:Failed to fetch http://repo.steampowered.com/steam/dists/precise/steam/i18n/Translation-en  Error reading from server. Remote end closed connection [IP: 23.62.97.145 80]
[17:23] <Capprentice> !out-of-patience
[17:23] <ulkesh> , E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[17:24] <OerHeks> Capprentice, contact the ppa owner, webupd8?
[17:25] <Capprentice> OerHeks, They cant do a thing :( ! The upstream version does not have vidalia control panel anymore ! I can only try to find a deb version below :3.x.x!
[17:26] <OerHeks> Capprentice, all they have to do is a few clicks, to build and make it available
[17:27] <Bitvilag> hey everyone
[17:28] <Bitvilag> I would need some help with apt-get install -y . I would like to automate installation of several services but during install it pops-up some questions on CLI in gui fashion and i cannot seem to pass any input to these questions
[17:30] <alias2234> What services do you mean ?
[17:31] <Bitvilag> apt-get install -y icinga-idoutils
[17:32] <alias2234> And what questions is poping up ?
[17:33] <Bitvilag> well
[17:34] <Bitvilag> for started which database should I use
[17:34] <Bitvilag> like mysql or postgresql etc
[17:37] <alias2234> Have you read this webpage ? https://wiki.icinga.org/display/howtos/Setting+up+Icinga+with+IDOUtils+on+Ubuntu
[17:38] <Bitvilag> thats the page that I am trying to automate
[17:38] <sharp15> anyone know if there are directions around for moving from one old LTS release to the newest one?
[17:39] <alias2234> What do you mean automate ?   Why do you need to automate it ?
[17:40] <Bitvilag> well for testing purposes i want to re-instal several times
[17:41] <psilo2> Is there a common way to add pidfile functionality to a daemon outside of the daemon's code itself?  `start-stop-daemon --make-pidfile` is really promising except that it doesn't remove the pidfile when the daemon terminates.
[17:42] <psilo2> I just want to use monit (which requires pidfiles) without making a little wrapper script for everything
[17:42] <alias2234> Have no qlue, sorry. Perhaps others on this channel have an answer.
[17:43] <Bitvilag> psilo2 you could great a cript that checks for process in ps -ef
[17:43] <Bitvilag> create
[17:44] <psilo2> Bitvilag: yeah, just trying to avoid recreating that for the 100th time :)
[17:44] <psilo2> I'm sure tools like `start-stop-daemon` account for edge cases my script wouldn't
[17:44] <Bitvilag> makes sense:d
[17:46] <rAnDoM-gUy> Hello all. Can anyone help me find out why my iptables have rules in them that I did not add?
[17:46] <Bitvilag> thanks 4 the help
[17:46] <Bitvilag> bye
[17:46] <psilo2> rAnDoM-gUy: running ufw or any other firewall managers?
[17:47] <psilo2> rAnDoM-gUy: the rules themselves could be a hint to what added them.
[17:49] <TJ-> rAnDoM-gUy: There's a shotgun method to look for conf files that possibly contain iptables rules, such files paths and names would likely help identify the owning package, especially if the rules match what is live in netfilters: "sudo grep -rn INPUT /etc/*"
[17:51] <tristan_> #ubuntu-es
[17:52] <Shadow}}> Hello, Wondering what the term line is to check for updates or to update..updates?
[17:53] <rAnDoM-gUy> sudo apt-get update
[17:53] <rAnDoM-gUy> sudo apt-get upgrade  *installes updates
[17:53] <Shadow}}> I thought so! Sheesh need to stop second guessing myself or I'll never learn properly...
[17:53] <rAnDoM-gUy> hehe :)
[17:54] <rAnDoM-gUy> upgrade is missleading to me.
[17:54] <dcope> anyone in here using gluster fs? if so, would you suggest using it?
[17:55] <Shadow}}> May I ask what the G stands for and also what FS stands for..though I think I know the latter.
[17:55] <dcope> Shadow}}: i have no idea... fs stands for filesystem though
[17:55] <xangua> !u
[17:55] <zykotick9> rAnDoM-gUy: note, usind "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" installs ALL available updates, where "sudo apt-get upgrade" does not... just fyi
[17:56] <dcope> xangua: gluster fs is the name of the product........
[17:56] <Shadow}}> Thought so just checking. Sick, So Learning hasn't been going well. Least not stickin.
[17:56] <dcope> it's not "shortened english"
[17:56] <dcope> o_O
[17:56] <dcope> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GlusterFS
[17:56] <MavKen> Shadow}}, good or bad, I run "apt-get update -y && apt-get upgrade -y && apt-get dist-upgrade -y && apt-get autoremove -y" once a day
[17:57] <Capprentice> o.O!
[17:57] <Shadow}}> What does the "-y" cause?
[17:57] <MavKen> answers yes at prompt
[17:57] <MavKen> instead of the yes/no prompt at each
[17:57] <Shadow}}> Ahh. So I take it that just auto goes through what I'm now doing  manually?
[17:57] <MavKen> yep
[17:57] <Shadow}}> "Manually."*
[17:58] <psilo2> -y is fine on your desktop I guess.  Careful doing that where reliability is important.
[17:58] <MavKen> I should probably just add it as a cron job but I like to see whats being changed
[17:59] <msdaisy> MavKen, Interesting, you're running as root.
[17:59] <Shadow}}> So can anyone tell me why my puppy linux RAM portable drive OS can "buffer streaming videos" at least twenty times faster than this Xubuntu? I feel as though I could change that...
[17:59] <Capprentice> Hey do you have an old version of Vidalia bundle avaiable which you can send to me? I can not find any old archives for Tor Browser Bundle!!! It seems all possible places are cleared out -____- !
[17:59] <MavKen> yeah, on my server I run as root but on laptop go sudo -s first
[18:00] <Shadow}}> Even biiblio? However thats spelled..
[18:00] <Moral_> Why does ubuntu ship with 2 android drivers running by defualt? Ashmen and Binder?
[18:00] <Moral_> s/Ashmen/ashmem
[18:00] <msdaisy> Capprentice, Probably somewhere on a torrent. Why do you want old vidalia?
[18:01] <MavKen> Shadow}}, I just moved to xubuntu on my laptop... I love it... much better than unity, may move my desktop to xubuntu too
[18:01] <Shadow}}> Why does IE10 have built-in whitelists and blacklists to stop me from watching streaming Flash videos? The answer is, Don't ask microsoft cause they said I was looking at malware.... Idiots..
[18:02] <rAnDoM-gUy> Yep I deleted my windows 7 two weeks ago. So tired of them forcing me to upgrade to a new os every year.
[18:02] <MavKen> microsoft is stupid...win 8 caused me to install ubuntu/xubuntu on my computers
[18:02] <Capprentice> msdaisy, I want the Vidalia Control Panel, which is not a part of the newer browser bundle anymore! The TOR developers removed the Control Panel from the newer version :((( !
[18:02] <Capprentice> And Firefox 31! UI is stupid!
[18:03] <TJ-> rAnDoM-gUy: So now you've got Ubuntu and have to upgrade to a new release very 6 months instead :)
[18:03] <Shadow}}> Force upgrade? They just told me mine wasn't Genuine. As if Windows was Genuine to begin with, Point is it couldn't of known that. >-> So now I have to learn Linux, Luckily I started that months back and got well enough to use it basically..
[18:03] <msdaisy> Capprentice, you realize that if you use an old TBB you won't be private. It will probably have heartbleed bug amongst others in it.
[18:04] <zykotick9> Capprentice: i believe there is a tor channel on OFTC irc network, perhaps asking there will shed some light?  (i was under, the perhaps incorrect, impression Vidalia was discontinued?)
[18:04] <Capprentice> zykotick9, I will try that channel :D
[18:04] <MavKen> Shadow}}, the only thing I miss from the switch is photoshop.... on reason I may fork out the money and get a mac one day
[18:04] <rAnDoM-gUy> Shadow, by force I mean them stopping support for the os earlier and earlier. Windows 8 might have all of six months lol before windows 9.
[18:05] <MavKen> lol
[18:05] <rAnDoM-gUy> MavKen, get GIMP.
[18:05] <rAnDoM-gUy> Free photoshop and more.
[18:05] <Shadow}}> Sn0wden released a few documents containing the names and operatives of the programs used to do all the internet overt crap we notice. Tbh... I like the names. Such as Angry Pirate - Disables and Removes a Window's User Account regardless of current usage.
[18:05] <MavKen> yeah, I havent got the hang of it yet, need to spend more time with it
[18:05] <rAnDoM-gUy> ahh okay :) As long as you know about it.
[18:05] <Shadow}}> Mavken: Never been on a Mac actually. o.o
[18:07] <MavKen> had the 27" imac at old job with 16GB ram... I was spoiled
[18:07] <Shadow}}> They taught me windows 90..something in 1st grade. So thats what I used up to last year and I formatted a toshiba 1TB portdrive designed for backup into PupLinux RAM only, Give or take on the ram.
[18:07] <Capprentice> msdaisy, Actually I just need a reliable proxy application which can proxify anything I'm doing on Internet! Actually my ISP is a bit over protective and very law abiding.., blocks most of the Video and Music Download Sites! and also some Social Networking sites. On linux Tor Browser seemed to me the best solution.
[18:08] <rAnDoM-gUy> Capprentice, look into openvpn.
[18:08] <msdaisy> Capprentice, a vpn would be easier and faster imo
[18:08] <rAnDoM-gUy> I use it with openbook.
[18:09] <Capprentice> rAnDoM-gUy, How to set that up on Ubuntu?
[18:09] <Capprentice> Is that free?
[18:09] <Shadow}}> I couldn't get past creating my certificates for a VPN... I mean I created them then the term lines just confused me and I never figured it out.
[18:09] <msdaisy> !openvpn
[18:10] <Shadow}}> Actually, In retrospect I believe the lines were faulty. With breaks I noticed the other day pasting broke lines in succession worked just fine, But didn''t when I tried on Xubuntu 13.04
[18:10] <jabbott> I'm trying to have multiple desktops and monitor 1 shows workspace X and monitor 2 shows workspace Y.   XMonad isn't working properly.  Have any other suggestions?
[18:11] <Shadow}}> Oh well, Looks like I'm off to reboot and see if Flash runs any quicker. Hmm..Need to save that update line from MavKen before I go.
[18:11] <MavKen> you usin chromium?
[18:12] <MavKen> remember to use sudo with it
[18:12] <rAnDoM-gUy> I used instructions and bundled certificates for vpn book :) really easy to do.
[18:12] <Shadow}}> Yup. I fanything I use sudo when I'm not supposed to really. Hah
[18:12] <rAnDoM-gUy> Stop doing that! lol
[18:13] <rAnDoM-gUy> Messes up permissions I found out the hard way.
[18:13] <MavKen> Shadow}}, I did some of these when I installed xubuntu on my laptop - http://www.binarytides.com/better-xubuntu-14-04/
[18:13] <Shadow}}> No.! I believe, If I mess up its my fault and just redo the OS. Not like I have anything important on here.
[18:13] <rAnDoM-gUy> Ahh okay ^_^
[18:14] <MavKen> I reinstall ubuntu/xubuntu every 3 weeks or so because i play around and its easier than trying to undo
[18:14] <Shadow}}> Ooo. I was going to judge the entire thing based off if it included Synapse or not. It did, So I'll bookmark it. Thanks MavKen
[18:15] <MavKen> np
[18:15] <Shadow}}> Also, The only problem I've ran into with bleeding edge Synapse is if you leave the CPU on for vasts amounts of time it stops functioning and cannot be executed by a mere click.
[18:16] <Shadow}}> By execute I actually meant kill.
[18:17] <Shadow}}> Hmm... Is it "sudo service network-manager restart" or networking-manager?
[18:18] <Zachary_DuBois> For anyone needing IPTables for an L2TP over IPSec, I found them myself. Here is a copy: http://hastebin.com/ugavanobes.txt
[18:18] <rAnDoM-gUy> I thought it was sudo service restart /blah/blah
[18:18] <zykotick9> Shadow}}: try "sudo service net<TAB>" and see if it autocompletes
[18:19] <Shadow}}> One of the two I just said worked fine, Though It wasn't what I wanted I don't believe.
[18:19] <Shadow}}> I'm wanting the equilvilant of in windows cmd "IPconfig /release > Ipconfig /renew"
[18:19] <TJ-> Shadow}}: "sudo ifdown ethX && sudo ifup ethX"
[18:20] <Shadow}}> That releases and renews the IP?
[18:21] <TJ-> Shadow}}: If the interface ethX is using DHCP yes
[18:21] <Shadow}}> My ISP is about as safe as... My own computers. In fact they told me the other month "If you have a hacker problem you can't get rid of them" >_>
[18:21] <Shadow}}> It is. Thank you very much
[18:21] <TJ-> Shadow}}: when a DHCP interface comes up "dhclient ethX" is executed which handles the DHCP transaction
[18:22] <Shadow}}> Least I'm 90% sure it is, Its auto done by my ISP. In a very poor manner and only once every 24 hours.
[18:22] <mykrob76> afternoon. Any of you able to assist with a Lenovo Yoga 2 11? Installed 14.04 yesterday, and everything works fine except screen brightness control
[18:22] <TJ-> Shadow}}: If however the interface is managed by Network Manager, the command I gave you won't work.
[18:23] <Shadow}}> Its Eth0, Direct to a router direct to the modem provided by the ISP.
[18:24] <Shadow}}> Is there a way to check whats ..eh...controlling it?
[18:24] <Shadow}}> *managing
[18:24] <TJ-> Shadow}}: In that case you'd need to use the GUI NM-applet *or* do "nmcli con down id 'Connection Name' && nmcli con up 'Connection Name' "
[18:25] <TJ-> Shadow}}: The rule generally is, if "/etc/network/interfaces" has an entry for the interface ("iface ethX ...") then Network Manager will, by default, leave it alone
[18:25] <mykrob76> is there a way in Ubuntu to make the unity dash appear by swiping from outside the touchscreen like in Windows 8?
[18:26] <Shadow}}> Hmm... So sounds to me like I'll have to change up some stuff to renew my Ip.
[18:26] <TJ-> Shadow}}: For Nework Manager you can check which connections it has simply with "nmcli con list"
[18:26] <Beldar> mykrob76, I doubt it.
[18:26] <Shadow}}> Ahh, nmcli stands for networkmanager client?
[18:27] <mykrob76> Beldar: oh ,well... Got a small screen, just trying to save real estate. Suppose I can leave the dock on screen but make it smaller.'
[18:27] <Shadow}}> Hm. Well it popped up my connection I'm using so take that as it IS network manager managed?
[18:28] <Beldar> mykrob76, Is this using touch or a mouse?
[18:28] <mykrob76> Beldar, using touch. It's a lenovo yoga. Works fine with the touchpad, just looking at ways to actualy make this touchscreen useful
[18:29] <Shadow}}> Reminds me. While I'm here do any of you know an alternative to BleachBit?
[18:29] <Shadow}}> That work on this latest Xubuntu.
[18:29] <Beldar> mykrob76, Ah, I would be careful just trying to make either OS similar or expect them to be is all.
[18:31] <Shadow}}> Yes, No? BleachBit hasn't worked properly since I went to 14.04
[18:31] <Shadow}}> Hmm... Is there a bleeding edge BleachBit? >:D Sounds like a good way to redo my OS and cuss myself alot for doing it despite many warnings.
[18:31] <Senpos> Hi. Who use Spotify on Linux?
[18:32] <Beldar> Senpos, we don't support polling here, if you have an actual issue state that.
[18:33] <Shadow}}> Alwel. Another day, Bye all thank you for the helps.
[18:33] <Senpos> OK, sorry. After playing new track on Spotify my xfce-notify shows only Song Name and Album. Is it possible to show artist there?
[18:34] <js_doode> I'm still running ubuntu 10.04 (yes, I know I need to upgrade), but was wondering how I would go about placing a program like Sublime Text on the start menu. Any Ubuntu gurus, much obliged.
[18:35] <Beldar> js_doode, Not supported
[18:36] <js_doode> Beldar: so, in my case, I'll just have to start it from terminal, until I upgrade then huh.
[18:36] <Beldar> Senpos, spotify is a third party technically not supported is all.
[18:37] <Beldar> js_doode, Just technically not supported here, and you would have to do a a eol specific upgrade, at this point your desktop is not getting upgrades from the ubuntu repos.
[18:38] <js_doode> Beldar: Ah. I see. Thank you.
[18:41] <Shadow}}> Heya MavKen, You there?
[18:41] <js_doode> anyone know where I can see people sharing their ubuntu or linux rigs? Photos. thanks
[18:42] <MavKen> yes
[18:42] <MavKen> knee deep in netbeans... whats up?
[18:42] <Shadow}}> That line failed to open some lock, Asked if I'm root. Anyway to open term as root or something else to bypass the problem?
[18:42] <Shadow}}> Or just sign in as root?
[18:42] <zykotick9> js_doode: sidenote (sorta offtopic), but, if you wanna live in the past, debian squeeze is the first debian LTS and is still supported <- it's what Lucid 10.04 was based off of...  just fyi
[18:43] <Code|Teal> So, I am going to give ubuntu a try on my machine at work and wondering if anyone has experience with a multi monitor setup
[18:43] <TJ-> Code|Teal: Yes
[18:43] <Code|Teal> figure that it is not going to work properly on install
[18:44] <Code|Teal> and figure that it is potentially going to be a nightmare lol
[18:44] <patrick-> when are the pc games going to be working on linux?
[18:45] <Code|Teal> patrick-, there are a few that do already
[18:45] <patrick-> thats the main thing lacking on linux
[18:45] <Beldar> !topic | patrick-
[18:45] <TJ-> Code|Teal: I've got 3 Nvidia GPUs running 6 monitors on my laptop, with Nvidia proprietary driver. No problems.
[18:45] <Code|Teal> TJ-, that makes me feel much better lol
[18:45] <Code|Teal> I have a quad monitor setup right now and have tried a few distros with no real luck
[18:46] <js_doode> zykotick9: thanks. I'm looking to upgrade to trusty tahr, so i'm moving on. I just can't do it at this particular time. Partly, because I'm working on a project, and I guess laziness to backup :)
[18:46] <patrick-> i mean the real good ones like car racing games
[18:46] <patrick-> Code|Teal, had you heard of project torque or heat?
[18:46] <Shadow}}> Just like to point out its not a lack on linux part but on the world's part for selling out "PC" games.
[18:47] <Code|Teal> patrick-, not off hand
[18:47] <Beldar> patrick-, This is not support that is this channels topic.
[18:47] <Beldar> !ot | Code|Teal patrick-, use the correct channel please
[18:48] <Code|Teal> ?
[18:48] <js_doode> zykotick9: But I'm actaully looking to upgrade hardware at this point, which is why I asked where I can go see some latest ubuntu rigs. To get an idea.
[18:48] <Shadow}}> Can I repeat my question to MavKen? Nvm just said their name so...
[18:48] <TJ-> Code|Teal: I've got an external Quadro NVS420 here driving 4
[18:48] <Code|Teal> installing ubuntu is off topic in here?
[18:48] <Beldar> Code|Teal, random opinions on games is not support.
[18:49] <MavKen> Shadow}}, can you pm me?  not able to watch channel atm
[18:49] <Code|Teal> Beldar, yeah... a question was asked about when games were going to be able to run on linux and I said that some are...
[18:49] <Code|Teal> that is not opinion, that is fact
[18:49] <Code|Teal> but OK
[18:50] <Beldar> Code|Teal, Right which to begin with was not a support question, you mistakenly answered, this channel has specific rules, this is not an ego boxing match to prove your point. ;)
[18:51] <Code|Teal> ego boxing match?!
[18:51] <jaynext> M$ layoff ... may benefit Linux community ?
[18:51] <Beldar> !ot | jaynext
[18:52] <jaynext> k ... :)
[18:52] <jaynext> sorry for inconvenience :p
[18:53] <Beldar> jaynext, No inconvenience the topic is stated in the channel header clearly.
[18:53] <Code|Teal> Beldar, I am truly sorry that I answered what I thought was a question about games on ubuntu in the ubuntu support channel... not quite sure what you are talking about with an ego boxing match, but glad you think so lowly about the new people in here
[18:54] <Trudko> Hi guys I am updating the system and grup-pc configuration poped up I have two option to choose from one is /dev/sda 256060 MB SAMSUNG_SSD_PM851_mSATA_256GB) and /dev/sda9 (129436 MB'; /) not sure which one to pick
[18:54] <Trudko> btw this is dual boot installation with windows
[18:54] <Foxhoundz> when I I use the Ubuntu GUI to share a directory, is it using Samba conf to set up the share?
[18:54] <Beldar> Trudko, W8, this a uefi and are you using the mbr?
[18:55] <Foxhoundz> I need to make some changes to the shared directories but I don't see any entries for it in the smb.conf file
[18:55] <Foxhoundz> Since I'm tunneling to the PC through SSH, I can't use the GUI window to configure it
[18:56] <Trudko> Beldar: frankly not sure
[18:56] <Trudko> how can I find out?
[18:56] <Code|Teal> forgot, people like Beldar are the reason I dont use ubuntu, I will cancel my download and go elsewhere then
[18:56] <Code|Teal> sorry to bother everyone
[18:56] <Foxhoundz> Rage
[18:56] <Foxhoundz> Anyway, my question still stands :)
[18:57] <Beldar> Trudko, Easiest for me to know would be from a script run, are you on the ubuntu desktop?
[18:58] <Trudko> y
[18:58] <Beldar> !bootinfo | Trudko run a pastebin the script output.
[18:58] <Beldar> and*
[19:00] <Trudko> ok give me few minutes
[19:00] <Guest71325> someone italian?
[19:00] <daftykins> !it | Guest71325
[19:01] <Guest71325> thanks!
[19:01] <daftykins> prago? ;)
[19:02] <Guest71325> "prego" ;)
[19:02] <daftykins> thanks ^_^
[19:04] <Trudko> Beldar: www.pastie.org/9407602
[19:05] <walterbit> question about nvidia drivers. Can I install latest nvidia331 driver or update is only for newest graphic cards?
[19:05] <bekks> walterbit: Which model do you have exactly?
[19:06] <walterbit> bekks: GF119M [GeForce GT 520MX]
[19:07] <Beldar> Trudko, Kind of a messy install, you have a efi boot partition sda1 but standard installs of both MS and ubuntu and no use of the mbr. My guess is sda9 sda is the mbr and nothing is there right now.
[19:08] <BluBoyHD> ciao
[19:09] <kux> Hi all! Using unzip doesn't recognize spaces when I specify a variable in my script. Help?!
[19:09] <Trudko> Beldar: well this is dell latopt so there was preinstalled some stuff only thing I did was to split windows parition to make space for Ubuntu and swap parition
[19:09] <BluBoyHD> !lista
[19:09] <wheatthin> kux, use " "
[19:09] <Trudko> Beldar: so what would you recomend to do?
[19:10] <Beldar> Trudko, The W7 is your install?
[19:10] <walterbit> bekks: Just trying to use Crystalspace but it fails... I think it is for the graphic card issue
[19:10] <kux> for x in $(find . -name "*.zip"); do unzip $x -d ${x%????}; done
[19:11] <kux> but files like "this zip file.zip" are read as "this" "zip" "file.zip"
[19:12] <kux> help if you can :)
[19:12] <wheatthin> ' '
[19:12] <Trudko> Beldar: what do you mean by "MY" install ? (and it is W8 if that matter)
[19:13] <Trudko> if by MY you mean if I installed then no, It was preinstalled by Dell
[19:14] <Beldar> Trudko, Ah says W7 on the script, not sure what to do to be honest it is missing the standard efi boot stuff showing in the MS or ubuntu boot info. Other than a efi boot partition sda1 and it is a gpt HD.
[19:15] <bekks> walterbit: I never heard of Crystalspace - what is it?
[19:16] <Trudko> well right now everything is working so can I skip the whole process it is neccessery ? what I am actually doing is I have exported list of installed packages from another machine and now I have installed them using udo aptitude update && cat pkglist | xargs sudo aptitude install -y
[19:16] <walterbit> an open source game engine
[19:16] <Symphonym> How/where do I install adobe reader in Ubuntu 14.04?
[19:17] <Beldar> Trudko, Can't say myself to many outliers.
[19:18] <OerHeks> Symphonym, it is removed from the repos, so i guess not ? if you find a linux package, it must be old (2007)  http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=10&platform=Unix
[19:19] <Beldar> Symphonym, The original ubuntu version has been discontinued, there are pdf readers installed and the adobe was like version 9
[19:19] <Symphonym> OerHeks: Ah I see, well I get the error: "The document you are trying to load requires Adobe Reader 8 or higher"
[19:21] <Trudko> Beldar: well according to this http://askubuntu.com/questions/23418/what-do-i-select-for-grub-install-devices-after-an-update I should check /dev/sda
[19:21] <Trudko> and according to comment there should be option Don't install grub in next screen so lets try that
[19:22] <Beldar> Trudko, don;t do that you have nothing in sda now.
[19:22] <Beldar> Trudko, The link is for a msdos you have gpt.
[19:22] <jjsandles> I heard ubuntu is going bankrupt
[19:22] <Dragon64> Symphonym: you can still get a deb for version 9 on adobe.com That should be sufficient
[19:23] <Beldar> !ot | jjsandles
[19:23] <Symphonym> Dragon64: I tried doing that but I got some warning that the package is old/bad/corrupted, not taking chances :/
[19:23] <conner5_> Hey all I am having some terrrible trouble with permissions and my web app projects. I keep getting a permission denied error and I do not know how to fix it.
[19:24] <Dragon64> thats up to you, works great for me
[19:25] <walterbit> hey, they got their own channel! lets ask there
[19:26] <jjsandles> walterbit: You first
[19:28] <c0ffee> can anyone help with ibus and remapping keys ?
[19:33] <c0ffee> does modifying /usr/share/X11/xkb/keycodes/evdev have immediate effect or some update has to be run?
[19:35] <Caffeine> I'm installing 14.04 right now and I chose to encrypt... It's asking me for a "security key" which should be entered each time I reboot... Seeing the width of the boxes, I'm a little confused as to what is called a "security key" here. Is that the encryption key (in which case I usually create something quite long and complex, or is that the user password? or something else?
[19:35] <21WAARVHM> sup guys, a friend of mine just installed ubuntu 14.04 but his avm usb wlan stick isn't working. it can't find any wlan networks, but he can find the device itself via "lsusb". any ideas how to get it working?
[19:36] <RainMan28> Guys, I installed a package which listens on certain ports (8080,8443,etc). After installing and confirming the package is running, when I do netstat -ln I don't see those ports active and being listened to...what is my next step to check?
[19:36] <Jeffrey_f> Caffeine: Password, or more accurately, PASS PHRASE to unlock the encrypted disk.  Difficult but memorable so you don't forget it
[19:37] <own> RainMan28: sudo lsof -i :port          maybe?
[19:38] <RainMan28> own: tried sudo lsof -i :8443 and just get zero output
[19:38] <litropy> how do I unmount an encrypted home folder from an external drive?
[19:39] <bekks> litropy: you cant as long as the user is logged in.
[19:39] <litropy> bekks, Ah. So a complete logout is my only option?
[19:42] <bekks> litropy: Correct.
[19:42] <RainMan28> Guys, I installed a package which listens on certain ports (8080,8443,etc). After installing and confirming the package is running, when I do netstat -ln I don't see those ports active and being listened to...what is my next step to check?
[19:42] <litropy> thx, bekks
[19:42] <bekks> RainMan28: Check the configuration and the logs of that package.
[19:43] <RainMan28> bekks: ok, how could I go about doing that? I am new to linux
[19:47] <walterbit> bekks: So for my 2 yeard old graphic card did i need to update driver form nvidia?
[19:50] <forevertheuni> Hi. I have an app that stopped working as user but it's ok as root. What's the best way to debug this?
[19:51] <OerHeks> forevertheuni, by starting: what app, and what ubuntu version ?
[19:52] <bekks> walterbit: Which driver version do you use currently?
[19:52] <k1l_> forevertheuni: as a guess: see if the folders and files in /home belong to your user
[19:53] <walterbit> bekks: 304 and in synaptic package manager I see 331
[19:53] <bekks> walterbit: You do not need to upgrade then.
[19:54] <walterbit> bekks: Really? 331 is newer and is not installed at now
[19:55] <walterbit> maybe it makes work my card
[19:55] <bekks> walterbit: And since 304 is working fine, you do not need to upgrade. You can, but there is no need to.
[19:55] <walterbit> ah ok, but is not working fine at all
[19:55] <bekks> walterbit: Can you elaborate on that please?
[19:56] <walterbit> bekks: well, as i told you i want to run a game engine, and fail because of the graohic card
[19:56] <bekks> walterbit: I am still waiting on exact messages :)
[19:57] <walterbit> bekks: the error is that it is not loading parallaxtest
[19:58] <walterbit> the little info about this on the web is that is an envidia graphic issue
[19:59] <walterbit> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=603267
[20:00] <javo> Hi the room
[20:01] <bekks> walterbit: There are other errors before, like the alsa thing.
[20:01] <javo> i'm looking for orientation. Not sure if this is the indicate place for that
[20:01] <walterbit> alsa works well in my computer
[20:01] <javo> Iḿ using 14.04
[20:02] <javo>  and after last installation of ubuntu base package, my device become crazy
[20:02] <javo> no network, nor graphic card identifying, no sound
[20:03] <javo> and dunno how restore it
[20:03] <SilentDis> Is there a guide to install Win7 alongside a *ubuntu install?  I haven't had windows on a computer for 10 years, and just got an at-home position that i'll need windows for.
[20:03] <c0ffee> why changes to /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/* do not affect keyboard layouts, should I run some command to update system after changes?
[20:03] <bekks> walterbit: The error messages states that the also plugin cannot be loaded, and as a dependency of that, the software renderer for the sound subsystem couldnt be loaded. Thats not a nvidia issue really :)
[20:03] <bekks> !dualboot | SilentDis
[20:05] <SilentDis> bekks: thank you. would it be, in your expirience, just 'easier' to backup /dev/sda1 with rsync, repartition the drive off boot medium ahead, install windows to first partition, then install ubuntu back on /dev/sda2?
[20:05] <walterbit> bekks: sorry, my problem is exactly that one http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-games-ubuntu/2013-November/005963.html
[20:05] <walterbit> the other link is similar error but just other sorry
[20:07] <OerHeks> SilentDis, we recomment installing win7 first ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows
[20:07] <Joseph_> Gens , from the ubuntu server , anyway to access the browser in command line ? because internet is not working , basically from gui if we open we need to enter user name and password . but I don’t know how to enter user name and password  ..any one advise or any other way to get the internet access
[20:07] <TJ-> walterbit: have you run walktest under gdb to capture a backtrace?
[20:07] <walterbit> TJ-: I dont know what gdb is
[20:08] <Lobster> is it normal for ubuntu to run java games faster or is my windows drivers messed up?
[20:08] <SilentDis> OerHeks: so, backup /dev/sda1, boot off liveUSB, partition /dev/sda to 2 30GiB partitions, install windows to the first, install ubuntu to /dev/sda2, restore install?
[20:08] <TJ-> Joseph_: "lynx" or "www-browser" aka "w3m" are command-line browsers
[20:08] <SilentDis> OerHeks: I should note, my home is /dev/sdb1, and has been for a long time.  ssd for the os and all :)
[20:08] <navandres11911_> Hi there. Can someone help me with a cron(very simple problem)?
[20:09] <TJ-> walterbit: 'gdb' is the GNU DeBugger
[20:09] <OerHeks> SilentDis, yes, sounds good. no need to backup sda1 i guess, if your home is sdbX
[20:09] <SilentDis> OerHeks: true, there's something out there to grab pack lists, right?
[20:10] <SilentDis> OerHeks: so after i get my installs done, I just run a pre-built package list install?  i remember seeing something about that, just never had a use for it till now lol
[20:10] <bekks> SilentDis: I'd rather backup the filesystem, rather than the device node - and for a full backup, I'd use tar.
[20:11] <bekks> walterbit: I dont think thats your problem. I guess you have another problem.
[20:11] <SilentDis> bekks: rsync, yes.  my /home is already backed up to external media for that.  plenty of space to backup /, if it's even necessary...  which, thinking about it, really isn't.
[20:12] <bekks> SilentDis: I'd use tar at that point.
[20:12] <TJ-> walterbit: I can reproduce the error here... hold on whilst I investigate
[20:12] <Joseph_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7826741/
[20:12] <Joseph_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7826741/
[20:12] <walterbit> ok thanks TJ-
[20:13] <javo> now i'm loading system from an external device with 13.04- but need to restore my system. Is there a way to do it without reinstall whole system?
[20:13] <Joseph_> any location to store the password ?
[20:13] <walterbit> bekks: yep i get the errors crystalspace.system:  Error setting directory ‘parallaxtest’! crystalspace.system:  Error initializing system!
[20:13] <OerHeks> SilentDis, see http://askubuntu.com/a/137991 (only for repository packages, not PPA )
[20:14] <bekks> walterbit: And you get additional errors, before, regarding the sound system.
[20:14] <SilentDis> bekks: I think OerHeks has a bit better 'solution' for me.  /home is off on another drive.  *ubuntu and windows 7 get spots on an SSD.  just dumping my *ubuntu install won't really hurt after all, just have to note the PPAs I'm on, and restore those.
[20:14] <walterbit> bekks: i will see for the alsa thing
[20:14] <TJ-> bekks: walterbit No, the error is just the parallaxtest directory
[20:15] <TJ-> walterbit: is this what you see? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7826753/
[20:16] <walterbit> TJ-: nope exactly, i get this NOTIFY: World saving enabled. ATTENTION: default value of option force_s3tc_enable overridden by environment. crystalspace.system:  Error setting directory ‘parallaxtest’! crystalspace.system:  Error initializing system! Cleaning up...
[20:17] <SilentDis> OerHeks, bekks: what's rather funny about all this is it's kind of 'backwards' from the problem most people face.  I've not run Windows in almost 10 years; I don't wanna muck with something new when I already have something that works lmao
[20:18] <old> hey
[20:19] <javo> hello?
[20:19] <old> ye bro
[20:19] <walterbit> bekks: i remember to get alsa ok cuz one year ago i try it with sound applications. ardour or lmms i dont remember now
[20:19] <bekks> javo: 13.04 isnt supported anymore.
[20:19] <old> whats purpose of this?
[20:20] <javo> I know. my problem is with the 14.04
[20:20] <Joseph_> ant thought pls ?
[20:20] <javo> seems to be crashed after an ubuntu-base package installation
[20:21] <bekks> javo: So whats the actuall error you get with your 14.04?
[20:21] <old> is baktrak good ?
[20:21] <javo> not network, not raphic card, no sound
[20:21] <old> no man,works fine
[20:21] <bekks> old: We dont know, it isnt supported in here.
[20:21] <TJ-> walterbit: OK, I see the fault. The file it is looking and its associated files have been moved from data/shader/... to data/old-shader/... and newer files are in data/shader/...
[20:22] <old> yo tj
[20:22] <old> wher u from
[20:22] <walterbit> so what i need to do, change the directory in any conf file, or copy and paste from old directory to new?
[20:23] <OerHeks> old,  yeah, backtrack is good... only not supported here ... oh, it is discontinued, EOL
[20:23] <old> man im lovin this xchat
[20:23] <javo> bekks : It doesn't identfy my graphic card anymore, nor network access, nor sound is running
[20:24] <old> jevo u can use proprietary dvers ,no?
[20:24] <TJ-> walterbit: I'm not sure right now, I'm investigating the code
[20:24] <walterbit> ok thanks!
[20:25] <javo> I've been using
[20:25] <foggyb> hi guys
[20:25] <foggyb> i need help with AWS instance and VNC login
[20:26] <old> ok COD time
[20:26] <javo> that 14.04 without any problem, until that uubuntu-base actualization
[20:26] <foggyb> ive' got it mostly working, but the screen is totally grey
[20:26] <rungtung> What plugin do I need for tube type of sites? flash? i can play youtube but not other tube sites
[20:27] <foggyb> i followed this guide: http://gordoncluster.wordpress.com/2013/08/29/creating-an-ubuntu-machine-on-ec2-with-graphics-and-all/
[20:28] <yabbounic> im in synaptic checking the properties of libglu1-mesa, i need libGLU.so.1 32 bit packages, my system is 64 bit, do you know how i can get these ?
[20:31] <javo> Is there a way to uninstall that base-package and return to previous version?
[20:32] <bekks> javo: There is no way to downgrade Ubuntu.
[20:32] <javo> not dowgrade it, but restore a previous state in the same 14.04
[20:33] <javo> It was working fine
[20:34] <walterbit> TJ-: /etc/crystalspace-2.0 i found an archive here, dont understand it but i think is the configuration
[20:35] <javo> or how manually restore the network, set the graphic card, and the sound...
[20:38] <multimedia> hi
[20:38] <nyrelem> hi
[20:38] <javo> hi
[20:38] <nyrelem> how can I avoid ubuntu crash message after login?
[20:42] <D|nA> nyrelem, http://askubuntu.com/questions/93457/how-do-i-enable-or-disable-apport
[20:42] <TJ-> walterbit: The fault seems to be that some files are missing from one of the crystalspace packages, specifically the directory "usr/share/crystalspace-2.0/data/maps/parallaxtest/"
[20:43] <nyrelem> thanx, but if I disable apport, ubuntu will not be better in future)
[20:43] <nyrelem> what a root reason of message?
[20:44] <walterbit> TJ-: I see parallaxtest folder, but in data
[20:46] <TJ-> walterbit: which version of Ubuntu are you using? 14.04 has no package containing any "parallaxtest"
[20:47] <walterbit> 14.04 but i say i see in data parallaxtest folder in the crystalspace folder (crystalspace2.0/data
[20:49] <TJ-> walterbit: did you upgrade tha system from an earlier Ubuntu release?
[20:49] <walterbit> yes
[20:49] <TJ-> walterbit: I don't see any parallaxtest, what is the full path to that directory that you're referring to?
[20:50] <TJ-> walterbit: It sounds as if what you're seeing is a left-over from a previous release
[20:50] <walterbit> wait i tell you now...
[20:51] <Joseph_> Gens , from the ubuntu server , anyway to access the browser in command line ? because internet is not working , basically from gui if we open we need to enter user name and password . but I don’t know how to enter user name and password  ..any one advise or any other way to get the internet access
[20:51] <Joseph_> i try many option
[20:51] <Joseph_> not happen
[20:51] <Joseph_> pls hel
[20:51] <rww> w3m
[20:52] <walterbit> now i got it. i see the folder parallaxtest but in the downloaded package. installed package got less things
[20:52] <eeee> Joseph_: or elinks
[20:52] <daftykins> Joseph_: you don't need a browser to resolve networking.
[20:52] <eeee> if that's what you're asking ?
[20:52] <rww> daftykins: you do if you're using crapternet with a login page
[20:52] <Joseph_> need to enter user name and passworrd
[20:52] <Joseph_> what is the other option?
[20:54] <TJ-> walterbit: The parallaxtest files were in Lucid 10.04 but were removed before 12.04 Precise.
[20:55] <smecin> hi guys
[20:55] <smecin> yay
[20:56] <smecin> We have AstaraOS 22 now ubuntu
[20:56] <smecin> you got that right ubuntu
[20:57] <smecin> [smecin-0x71@localhost ~]$ uname -a
[20:57] <smecin> Linux localhost.localdomain 3.16.0-0.rc5.git1.1.fc22.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Jul 16 18:49:10 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:57] <smecin> [smecin-0x71@localhost ~]$
[20:57] <OerHeks> smecin, good. do you have a support Q?
[20:57] <smecin> nope i am canonical team lead
[20:57] <smecin> where are you team
[20:58] <smecin> save the source code
[20:58] <smecin> keep the binary only
[20:58] <smecin> is blender 2.7.1.1.rpm already publish guys
[20:58] <smecin> publish it they need it
[20:59] <OerHeks> !ot | smecin don't troll please
[20:59] <k1l_> smecin: please keep this channel clear for technical ubuntu support. thanks
[20:59] <rungtung> is a listview scrollable?
[21:00] <fakr> hi, what was the tool to paste to pastebin from the terminal?
[21:00] <Slart> fakr: pastebinit?
[21:00] <k1l_> !pastebinit | fakr
[21:00] <smecin> wait isn't ubuntu now use rpm
[21:00] <teward> fakr, pastebinit.  see that factoid that ubottu just spit out
[21:00] <Slart> fakr: there are a couple of others as well..
[21:00] <smecin> not apt right
[21:00] <walterbit> TJ-: i copy from the downloaded file to the usr/crystalspace2.0/data/maps the parallaxtest folder and now run with other errors, but first error was solved :D
[21:01] <wizzkidd> hi all, i'm running ubuntu server 14.04, just performed a distribution upgrade from 13.10 and the networking has stopped working.  Could anyone provide me any pointers (my interfaces was previously setup to bond (team) 2 nics together), ive made no changes to the interfaces file, yet the networking no longer works.)
[21:02] <Guest11869> Has the Ubuntu Manifesto been superseded by commercial interests?
[21:03] <TJ-> walterbit: see bug #1249676
[21:03] <rww> Guest11869: #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support discussion, please
[21:03] <Guest11869> Thanks.
[21:05] <Joseph_> how do we fix the network issues
[21:05] <Joseph_> 'in server ?
[21:07] <walterbit> well tomorrow i still looking for get it to work ok. TJ- thanks, now i get it partially fixed ;)
[21:07] <walterbit> its time to slip
[21:08] <TJ-> walterbit: I think I've found a solution for you
[21:08] <walterbit> yep
[21:09] <TJ-> walterbit: there's a git repository containing that code as part of the full CS, at https://github.com/crystalspace/CS
[21:09] <tortib> Hello everyone.  Can someone help me diagnose this issue with snmp?  I installed the snmp-mibs-downloader and now I'm getting these errors when running snmpwalk http://paste.ubuntu.com/7826950/
[21:09] <TJ-> walterbit: You could clone that repository to your home directory, then create a symbolic-link to the parallaxtest directory
[21:10] <walterbit> good idea! but i have copied it right now in usr/crystalsp.../data/maps
[21:11] <walterbit> and the error have gone ;) but the application is not running, this is what i going to investigate tomorrow
[21:11] <TJ-> walterbit: The scripts also look in ~/parallaxtest/ if the system directory doesn't exist, which avoids having to mess with system package locations
[21:12] <walterbit> TJ-: downloading the package from your link
[21:15] <TJ-> walterbit: That does work... and then I'm seeing lots of "invalid buffer destination" when doing "walktest -verbose"
[21:16] <walterbit> uff
[21:16] <walterbit> i going to use -verbose more times :)
[21:17] <TJ-> walterbit: That is solved with "sudo apt-get install crystalspace-glshader-cg" but then it causes "walktest: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/crystalspace-2.0/glshader_cg.so: undefined symbol: cgCreateContext"
[21:21] <Nordom> hello
[21:22] <Nordom> I am building a linux machine, and I was wonder if using a Server mobo vs a normal Mobo would make any difference?
[21:30] <tortib> Can someone help me with SNMP?  I'm trying to get my interface statistics for cacti with SNMP but it isn't returning any data. :(
[21:32] <wheatthin> Nordom, depends on what you're using it for.
[21:32] <FunnyMouse> Ladies and gentlemen
[21:32] <wheatthin> Nordom, I'm in a dual quad xeon server.. it's doing fine as an every day machine
[21:32] <FunnyMouse> I come here today
[21:32] <FunnyMouse> To curse you motherfuckers
[21:32] <wheatthin> FunnyMouse, please leave.
[21:32] <Nordom> Wheatthin, I plan on turn it into a gaming linux machine utilizing VT-D, and using xen VM
[21:32] <FunnyMouse> I TRIED TO SWITCH MY NICK INTO THIS CHANNEL NAME
[21:32] <FunnyMouse> BUT YOU SHIT MOTHER FUCKERS
[21:32] <FunnyMouse> TOOK IT
[21:33] <Nordom> wheatthin, http://www.overclock.net/t/1205216/guide-create-a-gaming-virtual-machine is my inspiration
[21:33] <php> is funnymouse banned yet
[21:33] <eeee> yeah
[21:33] <php> good
[21:34] <wheatthin> gaming virtually isn't worth it. You can create a dedicated server and then do it that way, but vm 3d graphics isn't going to be as smooth as you think
[21:34] <wheatthin> Nordom, it won't fully utilize your gaming graphics cards drivers that way.
[21:35] <Nordom> wheatthin, not by using xen and having a vt-d capable motherboard?
[21:35] <wheatthin> nope.
[21:36] <Nordom> wheatthin, why is that?
[21:37] <wheatthin> It's just simple fact that virtual graphics drivers aren't equivalent to dedicated host gaming drivers.
[21:37] <TJ-> wheatthin: It *isn't* virtual when it uses VT-d
[21:38] <TJ-> The guest has full access to the PCI I/O register mappings, that's the point of VT-d
[21:38] <Nordom> wheatthing are you familiar with VT-D technology?
[21:38] <TJ-> sorry, I meant it isn't 'virtualised' as in, the graphics device isn't emulated
[21:40] <TJ-> Nordom: Xen with VT-d passthrough is great for a HVM domU
[21:40] <Nordom> TJ-, HVM domU?
[21:41] <doherty> When I log in, unity doesn't start up. I get the wallpaper, and usually a cursor I can move around and right-click on the wallpaper. But the dash and the menu are missing. Can't open it with the meta key. Can't open a terminal with CTRL-ALT-T. What do?
[21:42] <TJ-> Nordom: HVM=Hardware Virtual Machine (in contrast to a Para-Virtualised VM), and domU == domain User a.k.a Guest VM (as opposed to dom0 domain (ring) 0 host hypervisor
[21:42] <Nordom> doherty, is this a unity3d question or a ubuntu question?
[21:43] <Nordom> TJ-, Thank you for the clarificaiton. This is what I want to do
[21:43] <doherty> Nordom: Dunno. I generally expect ubuntu to be able to start a graphical session properly. It could this morning. Now it can't. *shrug*
[21:43] <mkdmz> tes
[21:43] <TJ-> doherty: At a terminal I believe you can do "unity --reset" or similar
[21:44] <mkdmz> I just intalled gimp, inkscape and mypaint.  They won't run.  I get this error: error while loading shared libraries: libgomp.so.1
[21:44] <doherty> TJ-: `unity --reset` is deprecated and appears to do nothing.
[21:45] <TJ-> doherty: Ahhh, for 14.04 you'll need "unity-tweak-tool --reset-unity" which may required "sudo apt-get install unity-tweak-tool"
[21:45] <Nordom> TJ-, I played with Ubuntu on my gaming machine, but I wasn't VT-d capable. So I was force to do boot... This Mobo is actually ding as my 16 gigs of ram are drop to 1333mhz and I can only access 12 gigs of them and my usb3 ports dont work anymore.... (I swapped ram and didnt help, wifes machine is same mobo works fine, this one is done) So anyways I been chopping at the bit for some time to making a gaming capible VM linux machine
[21:45] <doherty> I'm not sure how to get any insight into what unity is doing/failing to do
[21:45] <b100s> hi2all
[21:45] <doherty> TJ-: I'll give it a shot
[21:45] <b100s> does exist any lightweight xlsx viewer for ubuntu?
[21:46] <Nordom> TJ-, Forced to duel boot*, and this mobo is dieing*... Sorry I should have proof read
[21:46] <kostkon> doherty, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[21:47] <mkdmz> I just intalled gimp, inkscape and mypaint.  They won't run.  I get this error: error while loading shared libraries: libgomp.so.1
[21:48] <anomaly_> I am using ssmtp for sending mail.  according to /var/log/mail.log I have a few dozen spam messages being sent out through one of my wordpress.org sites.  I shut it down, deleted the directory (after gzip'ng the dir for backup), restarted apache but I still see messages going out.  what am I missing to track down how this is happening?  is there a way to see what ssmtp is sending?
[21:49] <mkdmz> Anyone know what package contains libgomp.so ?
[21:50] <TJ-> mkdmz: "dpkg -S libgomp.so" or if the package isn't installed "apt-file search libgomp.so"
[21:50] <Loshki> anomaly_: start with "egrep -i ssmtp /var/log/syslog" and see what it says...
[21:51] <rww> mkdmz: gcc-4.4 or gcc-4.6, depending on your ubuntu version. Ultimately, you're probably looking for the build-essential package
[21:51] <Loshki> mkdmz: apt-cache search libgomp
[21:52] <anomaly_> Loshki: it is telling me the same thing mail.log is.  Jul 20 16:41:58 system sSMTP[9001]: Sent mail for user@foodomain.com (221 OK) uid=0 username=user outbytes=538
[21:56] <vadi2> Where can I find the interface to configure/work with the radeon open-source driver?
[21:58] <omerraja> h
[21:58] <doherty> OK, so running `unity-tweak-tool --reset-unity` gets unity sort-of running. There's no clock in the menu bar, or the drop down to log out, for example. And it never seems to end execution, so that seems like it isn't going to /actually/ fix anything unless I'm OK with running that from a VT every time in order to get a crippled unity interface -___-
[22:00] <Loshki> anomaly_: you could replace /usr/bin/sendmail with a script that makes a copy of all outbound mail. Actually, I'd be more concerned one of your apache servers is compromised & generating spam...
[22:02] <anomaly_> Loshki when I removed the directory containing the wordpress site, I have not seen a spam message yet with tail -f /var/log/mail.log, so that is one positive.  do you have a recommendation for a howto on replacing as you mention, that is friendly to non programmers?  ha.
[22:04] <silverio> Hello everybody :)
[22:05] <javo> hi silverio todo bien?
[22:05] <silverio> Hi javo... nop
[22:05] <silverio> I have been googling for the whole day and trying to solve a problem but... I couldn't
[22:05] <silverio> and you?
[22:13] <hans_> can i place a mint mate qustion
[22:14] <silverio> I don't know if somebody could help me with it. Just I donno why now I cannot run win8, when i try it, grub says that file/bootmgfe.efi/endEntire  error: cannot load image
[22:16] <javo> silverio: more or less the same. where at least suggested a couples of things and had the patience on explain me how to try them was in ubuntu uk. I suggest you try there
[22:16] <javo> #ubuntu-uk
[22:19] <ronkrt1> using a ubuntu install for a vps when i login via ssh as root i have username@domain: in the console, when i login with a user i created i get $
[22:19] <ronkrt1> what am i doing wrong for the user?
[22:20] <TJ-> silverio: Are you booted into Ubuntu right now?
[22:20] <silverio> Javo, no entiendo muy bien.
[22:20] <silverio> yes
[22:20] <silverio> I am in mint17
[22:20] <silverio> updated by repositories upgrade
[22:20] <silverio> from Mint16
[22:20] <TJ-> silverio: Mint isn't Ubuntu
[22:20] <silverio> You are right
[22:20] <silverio> I am sorry
[22:22] <jellf> hi all
[22:22] <TJ-> silverio: Your issue though, will be that you have a UEFI motherboard... and its boot-menu has lost/never had/corrupted its entry for Windows, *or* the Windows boot-loader files in the EFI System Partition (a FAT file-system usually 1st on the disk) has missing/corrupted Windows boot files. If your Linux OS has booted in UEFI mode you should have the EFI SP mounted at "/boot/efi/" and be able to explore that file-system to check if the Windows files look to be wha
[22:22] <TJ-> t a web-search shows you should be there
[22:24] <_zoggy_> hmm 14.04 has fail2ban v0.8.11
[22:24] <silverio> My original OS was Win8, but I installed Mint, it was in dual mode pretty good for long time, but a couple of week ago I detected that I caouldn't join Win8 anymore, it coincide with an update and a boot-repair ran.
[22:25] <silverio> I can join my files of Win8 from Mint
[22:25] <silverio> no problem of it
[22:25] <silverio> but I cannot run Win8 itself
[22:27] <Ben64> silverio: you should try the mint support channel or maybe ##windows can help you get windows to boot, but probably not mint
[22:28] <daftykins> !mint | silverio
[22:28] <Jeeves_Moss> how do I add sub interfaces to my server?
[22:28] <daftykins> Jeeves_Moss: care to explain what you mean?
[22:29] <Jeeves_Moss> daftykins, I need to add IPs on other subnets to the only adaptor in the box
[22:30] <daftykins> Jeeves_Moss: ah ok, so making it a multi-homed host
[22:31] <feitingen> Jeeves_Moss: sudo ip address add dev eth0 10.0.0.254/24
[22:31] <Jeeves_Moss> yes
[22:31] <feitingen> Jeeves_Moss: that will do it temporarily, to make it permanent, it depends on your distro
[22:32] <daftykins> (pro tip - we're in an ubuntu support channel, we only support ubuntu)
[22:36] <feitingen> Jeeves_Moss: here's how to do it on recent ubuntu/debian: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#iproute2_method
[22:36] <feitingen> daftykins: doesn't hurt to be nice ;)
[22:37] <daftykins> feitingen: sorry i forgot the smiley :)
[22:42] <feitingen> daftykins: no worries, i forgot which channel i was in :)
[22:44] <OerHeks> feitingen, Jeeves_Moss using that info from debian is wrong on ubuntu, as /etc/network/interfaces is controlled by networkmanager, use /etc/network/interfaces.d/eth to set those statics
[22:45] <mchavez> ???
[22:45] <feitingen> OerHeks: cool, didn't know that, when did that happen?
[22:46] <OerHeks> feitingen, not sure when this was introduced. 13.04 ?
[22:46] <rungtung> Add the following line to your ~/.bashrc file on Linux or to your ~/.bash_profile on Mac OS X:
[22:46] <rungtung> export PATH=${PATH}:$HOME/gsutil
[22:46] <feitingen> OerHeks: i'm still stuck managing a bunch of 12.04 and 10.04 :(
[22:47] <rungtung> there is no bashrc by default?
[22:48] <OerHeks> feitingen, from 12.4 as far as i can see http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man5/interfaces.5.html
[22:48] <reisio> rungtung: either there is or there isn't
[22:52] <TJ-> OerHeks: Network Manager isn't controlling "/etc/network/interfaces", that is provided by ifupdown.
[22:53] <OerHeks> TJ-, you are correct, sorry for this half-true info.
[22:55] <TJ-> OerHeks: I think I know what you were getting at :) ... runparts was introduced to provide "/etc/network/interfaces.d/" because of the proliferation of multi-interface systems making managing "interfaces" a pain... now other packages (and users) can add per-interface configuration files into the "interfaces.d/" directory without changing the base configuration, or any other runparts config
[22:57] <OerHeks> TJ-, did ubuntu introduce  /etc/apt/sources.list.d folder same time?
[23:00] <AmanMinhas> hey
[23:00] <TJ-> OerHeks: No, that's been around a lot longer I think... I recall when interfaces.d/ was introduced the scripts failed to call runparts on that directory. I was the one that fixed that bug after being caught out by it for about a day :)
[23:00] <AmanMinhas> help
[23:01] <OerHeks> TJ-, great, thanks for that :-)
[23:01] <OerHeks> now i am up2date
[23:01] <OerHeks> AmanMinhas, just ask your question
[23:02] <TJ-> OerHeks: I think the runparts apt/sources.list.d/ was introduced by Debian
[23:02] <TJ-> We just inherit them :)
[23:08] <xuboo> hello, I'm having trouble getting audio to work, I was wondering if anyone would try and help me get it fixed
[23:09] <silverio> mmmm nobody home there :) in any case, thank you everyone here
[23:10] <OerHeks> xuboo, have you tried this page? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[23:16] <xuboo> hello, I'm having trouble getting audio to work, I was wondering if anyone would try and help me get it fixed
[23:16] <rungtung> How do I uninstall something I apt-get installed?
[23:16] <xuboo> try sudo apt-get remove programname
[23:16] <xuboo> *program_name
[23:17] <ronin> is it safe to 'rm .viminfo'
[23:18] <daftykins> rename it instead
[23:18] <daftykins> then you don't have to
[23:19] <silverio> Good night
[23:26] <Squasher> howdy world!