Symmetria | morning | 04:51 |
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nuvolari | o/ oh hi | 05:44 |
mazal | Morning everyone | 06:09 |
bduk1 | More almal | 06:16 |
Cantide | afternoon~ | 06:20 |
Squirm | morning all | 06:43 |
nuvolari | oh hi mazal, Cantide, Squirm | 06:43 |
nuvolari | Maaz: seen kilos | 06:44 |
Maaz | nuvolari: kilos was last seen 8 hours, 28 minutes and 11 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-07-20 15:15:50 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2014-07-20 15:16:17 PDT | 06:44 |
Cantide | '-'/ | 06:44 |
Squirm | hello nuvolari, Cantide | 06:44 |
=== SubOracle[away] is now known as SubOracle | ||
mazal | Hello everyone | 06:53 |
mazal | Plenty of kernel updates these days hey | 06:53 |
ThatGraemeGuy | morning peeps | 06:55 |
Cantide | time to scurry back to work! | 06:57 |
Cantide | 안녕! | 06:57 |
charl | morning all | 07:11 |
charl | Maaz: coffee on | 07:11 |
* Maaz starts grinding coffee | 07:11 | |
Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl! | 07:15 |
charl | Maaz: thanks | 07:16 |
Maaz | charl: Sure | 07:16 |
nuvolari | oh hi charl :) | 07:19 |
charl | hi nuvolari | 07:28 |
Kilos | hi Vince-0 ThatGraemeGuy and others | 08:48 |
Vince-0 | o/ | 08:50 |
ThatGraemeGuy | 'lo Kilos | 08:50 |
Kilos | sjoe ThatGraemeGuy used over 400m on minetest yesterday | 08:50 |
Kilos | maybe must just mine after 11pm | 08:51 |
Kilos | haha tore up lots of my roof for the mv solar panels and they wouldnt connect, after about an hour of moving them and cables with no success i twigged they are lv panels | 08:53 |
Kilos | what a twit | 08:56 |
Kilos | now get real clever and make the game zip all data in and out to 1/4 its size then one can play lots | 09:00 |
Kilos | hi mazal inetpro | 09:02 |
mazal | Oom I struggled a lot to figure out those electric networks | 09:26 |
mazal | Eventually I found the correct info that | 09:26 |
Kilos | haha mazal i have my lv network working lekker and wantes the mv one for the toolbox | 09:47 |
Kilos | only didnt make mv panels | 09:47 |
Kilos | graeme showed me how | 09:48 |
Kilos | its just that each new thing needs so many others to make it work | 09:49 |
mazal | Oom Kilos , I didn't know that the solar generator , switch stationa and battery packs must be in the air with cable connecting underneath it | 10:09 |
mazal | Mine was all on flat surface and refused to work :P | 10:09 |
Kilos | lol | 10:15 |
Kilos | ya i spent hours trying to connect, actually days then graeme came and showed me how | 10:15 |
Kilos | also the most efficient height for them is at 35.4 | 10:16 |
Kilos | above you get no gain but below that you lose power | 10:16 |
Kilos | mazal, ^^ | 10:17 |
Kilos | ive got grinders compressors and electric furnace going | 10:18 |
Kilos | compressor make the carbon cloth stuff | 10:18 |
ThatGraemeGuy | i built a nuclear reactor core | 10:21 |
ThatGraemeGuy | and eventually after digging in the code realised you need a whole bunch of stuff surrounding it | 10:21 |
ThatGraemeGuy | or it will just explode | 10:21 |
ThatGraemeGuy | so you have the core | 10:22 |
ThatGraemeGuy | and it must be completly surrounded by water | 10:23 |
ThatGraemeGuy | and that is surrounded by stainless steel blocks | 10:23 |
ThatGraemeGuy | which is surrounded by blast-resistant concrete | 10:23 |
ThatGraemeGuy | and that is surrounded by concrete | 10:23 |
ThatGraemeGuy | so the whole thing's a 9x9x9 block structure | 10:24 |
ThatGraemeGuy | of pretty expensive stuff | 10:24 |
ThatGraemeGuy | so not anytime soon | 10:24 |
ThatGraemeGuy | Kilos: when you used over 400MB, how many times did you connect? | 10:26 |
Kilos | twice with bart and twice with me ThatGraemeGuy | 10:27 |
ThatGraemeGuy | mmm | 10:27 |
ThatGraemeGuy | i think most of the transfer is the initial connection | 10:27 |
ThatGraemeGuy | during play its quite light on data | 10:27 |
ThatGraemeGuy | or i might be wrong | 10:28 |
Kilos | do you have a tool to monitor by you , i use iftop and only keep irc pidgin and minetest running | 10:28 |
Kilos | and this month end i want to get a 1TB drive so no spare for data | 10:29 |
mazal | My server uses 800mb average a day for two users | 10:29 |
Kilos | been buying 2 bundles and ian been giving one the last coupla months | 10:30 |
mazal | Lemme check client side | 10:30 |
Kilos | i wonder if mine isnt charging up and download | 10:30 |
Symmetria | heh man, Ive downloaded 17 terabytes worth of sourceforge crap in the last 5 days | 10:31 |
Symmetria | takes forever | 10:31 |
Kilos | ThatGraemeGuy, when bart was mining down deep it used less than when he came to work in my house | 10:31 |
Kilos | Symmetria, why download crap? | 10:31 |
Kilos | only get usefull stuff man | 10:32 |
mazal | Client side much less , 500mb also for two users | 10:32 |
charl | Symmetria: you building a sourceforge mirror ? | 10:32 |
charl | Kilos: i think he has to download everything if he wants a mirror, crap and everything else that comes with it | 10:33 |
Kilos | aha | 10:33 |
ThatGraemeGuy | Kilos: i don't have a tool, no | 10:34 |
ThatGraemeGuy | i don't need to care about how much data i use | 10:34 |
ThatGraemeGuy | unfortunately you're in a bit of a unique spot | 10:34 |
Kilos | lol | 10:34 |
Kilos | i used to go 2 months on a 2+1 bundle now need 3 bundles a month | 10:35 |
ThatGraemeGuy | who is that with? | 10:43 |
ThatGraemeGuy | and who all has good signal in your area? | 10:44 |
Kilos | with 8ta and only voda is good here as well, but 8ta outstrips them | 10:48 |
ThatGraemeGuy | not mtn? | 10:48 |
Kilos | mtn only has edge tower | 10:49 |
Kilos | i have an mtn sim in cell fone | 10:49 |
ThatGraemeGuy | ok so with telkom you must be on the telkom network | 10:49 |
ThatGraemeGuy | since they have their network and mtn for areas where their network doesn't reach yet | 10:49 |
Kilos | yip telkom put a transceiver on the mtn tower about 800 metres from me | 10:50 |
Kilos | voda was on same tower too, but now they built their own owne a few ks further away and often sister has no connection | 10:51 |
ThatGraemeGuy | ah ok | 10:51 |
Kilos | her tablet uses vodacom | 10:51 |
ThatGraemeGuy | so there is an mtn tower, just not upgraded to 3g yet | 10:51 |
ThatGraemeGuy | that's a bummer :( | 10:51 |
Kilos | i started with mtn, and tried for about a year to get them to upgrade but they said they dont want to upgrade this one in the near future | 10:52 |
ThatGraemeGuy | that's sucky | 10:53 |
ThatGraemeGuy | because if there was good mtn signal you could get your data from afrihost for far better value | 10:53 |
Kilos | lol did upgrades of 9.04 and 9.10 that took 9 hours | 10:53 |
Kilos | ya i asked you when you bought that afrihost back then | 10:53 |
Kilos | that special | 10:54 |
ThatGraemeGuy | oh the launch deal | 10:54 |
Kilos | ya | 10:54 |
Kilos | also mtn suck, when i put airtime on it gets stolen within days and when i fone them they say put more and well try block the thieves | 10:55 |
Kilos | now i put 5 bucks and send 2 smsses immediately just to keep the number alive | 10:56 |
Kilos | swines | 10:56 |
Kilos | hi bushtech | 10:57 |
bushtech | dag Kilos | 10:57 |
Kilos | umts is as fast as hsdpa hey | 10:58 |
Kilos | thats what i see here for you from voda | 10:58 |
ThatGraemeGuy | Kilos: you mean your mtn number that you use for voice calls? | 10:59 |
Kilos | yessir | 11:01 |
Kilos | my cell phone | 11:01 |
ThatGraemeGuy | Kilos: yes "UMTS" is pretty much what was originally called "3G" when vodacom first started offering it | 11:01 |
ThatGraemeGuy | HSDPA/HSPA+ are later revisions, but still UMTS | 11:01 |
mazal | Do you guys know what a CNC machine and Quarry does ? Technic's site don't have descriptions for those | 11:02 |
Kilos | aha ty so bushhas the speed at least, just needs to get reliability sorted | 11:02 |
ThatGraemeGuy | and as far as your phone goes if your mtn airtime keeps disappearing, you can simply port your number to someone else, the porting process is quite simple nowadays | 11:02 |
nuvolari | oh hi oom Kilos | 11:02 |
Kilos | hi nuvolari | 11:02 |
ThatGraemeGuy | mazal: i haven't got the CNC machine to work yet | 11:03 |
Kilos | but wont it still be stolen ThatGraemeGuy , the thieves steal from that number? | 11:03 |
mazal | What is it suppose to do ThatGraemeGuy ? | 11:03 |
ThatGraemeGuy | Kilos: i don't know, that sounds like a bullshit excuse to be honest | 11:04 |
ThatGraemeGuy | mazal: a real life cnc machine is a computer-programmable milling machine or lathe | 11:04 |
ThatGraemeGuy | basically for shaping stuff | 11:04 |
mazal | Ok ic | 11:05 |
ThatGraemeGuy | so you have a program to make a cylinder from a block of steel or whatnot | 11:05 |
ThatGraemeGuy | or a pyramid, etc | 11:05 |
Kilos | i go eat | 11:05 |
mazal | The stuff fitters and turners does ? | 11:05 |
ThatGraemeGuy | i haven't had a chance to look at the code to see if its completely implemented yet | 11:05 |
ThatGraemeGuy | think so, yes | 11:05 |
ThatGraemeGuy | and a quarry, not sure | 11:05 |
ThatGraemeGuy | i see the technic wiki is on github, i've been intending to see about pushing some updates to make the documentation more useful | 11:06 |
ThatGraemeGuy | because right now you have to fiddle around and rely on outdated web docs and old forum threads | 11:06 |
ThatGraemeGuy | i find it more useful to go through the Lua code to figure things out | 11:07 |
mazal | BTW , stay away from ethereal | 11:08 |
mazal | Completely destroyed my world | 11:08 |
ThatGraemeGuy | from what now? | 11:08 |
mazal | Is a mod | 11:08 |
ThatGraemeGuy | oh cool, so you can come join ours again | 11:08 |
ThatGraemeGuy | :P | 11:08 |
mazal | Looks cool with lots of new biomes | 11:08 |
mazal | but don't work on an old world | 11:09 |
ThatGraemeGuy | well yeah | 11:09 |
ThatGraemeGuy | pretty sure that would've been mentioned in the forum somewhere | 11:09 |
ThatGraemeGuy | anything mapgen-related tends to be limited and/or destructive when applied to an existing map db | 11:09 |
mazal | And wierd thing , my backups I loaded back didn't solve the problem | 11:09 |
mazal | Even the manual ones | 11:10 |
mazal | I had to go back to Thursday when I made a complete image of the drive | 11:10 |
mazal | As usual , I copied the whole .minetest folder before modding | 11:10 |
mazal | Copied back that whole folder , didn't work :( | 11:10 |
ThatGraemeGuy | you did stop the server first right? that's the only way that makes sense | 11:11 |
mazal | Yep | 11:11 |
ThatGraemeGuy | weird | 11:11 |
mazal | That makes me think that something else happened to the world before the mod , and the backup I made already had a broken world in it. Is the only way that explains it | 11:12 |
mazal | From now on I full image the drive every day to be sure | 11:12 |
mazal | And I found a nifte little whereis mod that you can check out if you don't have it yet. Very handy to find and teleport to your buddy quickly ;) | 11:13 |
ThatGraemeGuy | Kilos: there's a tool in technic called a prospector which i hadn't noticed before | 11:14 |
ThatGraemeGuy | just reading the code it seems like you tell it a type of thing you are looking for, like mese, and it will tell you when you get close | 11:14 |
ThatGraemeGuy | might be useful | 11:14 |
ThatGraemeGuy | mazal: it looks like people still need the teleport privilege even with that mod? | 11:16 |
mazal | correct | 11:16 |
ThatGraemeGuy | um | 11:16 |
mazal | That simply provides the coordinates for the user | 11:17 |
ThatGraemeGuy | then its sort of useless though | 11:17 |
mazal | No is very handy | 11:17 |
mazal | I use it to get to barry quickly when I need to | 11:17 |
ThatGraemeGuy | how so? | 11:17 |
mazal | Get his coordinates | 11:17 |
mazal | Teleport | 11:17 |
ThatGraemeGuy | it's actually less user-friendly than "/teleport barry" | 11:18 |
ThatGraemeGuy | if you already have the teleport privilege | 11:18 |
mazal | hmm , I didn't know teleport accepts usernames | 11:18 |
mazal | kewl | 11:18 |
ThatGraemeGuy | http://wiki.minetest.net/Server_commands#Teleportation | 11:18 |
ThatGraemeGuy | yup | 11:18 |
mazal | I have a whole paper full of adresses already lol | 11:19 |
mazal | Home 1 ,2 ,3 , bottom of mine , chest room etc etc | 11:20 |
ThatGraemeGuy | you aren't using the waypoints of unified_inventory? ;-) | 11:22 |
mazal | Don't know how | 11:22 |
mazal | I only know of the single one for home | 11:22 |
ThatGraemeGuy | :-o | 11:23 |
ThatGraemeGuy | bad server admin :P | 11:23 |
Kilos | sjoe ThatGraemeGuy prospector sounds good | 11:24 |
Kilos | ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: i don't know, that sounds like a bullshit excuse to be honest | 11:28 |
Kilos | me or mtn? | 11:29 |
ThatGraemeGuy | mtn | 11:29 |
Kilos | oh whew | 11:29 |
ThatGraemeGuy | they must explain where your airtime goes | 11:29 |
Kilos | lol i wondered what i said wrong again | 11:29 |
ThatGraemeGuy | they can't just say "thieves", that's a criminal case | 11:29 |
Kilos | i even went to hello peter | 11:29 |
Kilos | then got voda and when that number started being robbed they gave me a code to type in to block all skelms | 11:30 |
Kilos | but my myn i have to keep because the cell is mtn locked and i cant find an unlock xrack for this model | 11:31 |
Kilos | otherwise that would be 8ta already as well | 11:31 |
Kilos | weird things happening, today gmail in evo keeps asking for passwords over and over | 11:37 |
Kilos | grrr | 11:37 |
ThatGraemeGuy | :-o | 11:37 |
ThatGraemeGuy | sim-locking hasn't been legal for ages already | 11:38 |
Kilos | its an old cell ThatGraemeGuy | 11:38 |
Kilos | sagem my404x | 11:38 |
Kilos | good for calls and smsses | 11:39 |
ThatGraemeGuy | i have a nokia 6210 that still works | 11:45 |
Kilos | my 2730 also still works too, was my modem for quite a while | 11:46 |
ThatGraemeGuy | hehe | 11:47 |
ThatGraemeGuy | 2730 from 2009 it seems? | 11:47 |
Kilos | ? | 11:47 |
ThatGraemeGuy | nokia 2730, i'm not familiar with it so i looke it up, looks like it was released in 2009? | 11:47 |
Kilos | its a good fone but slow as a modem | 11:48 |
Kilos | 2730 classic | 11:48 |
ThatGraemeGuy | yesh | 11:48 |
Kilos | nice simple fone | 11:48 |
ThatGraemeGuy | yes | 11:48 |
ThatGraemeGuy | you familiar with the 6210? | 11:48 |
ThatGraemeGuy | http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_6210-12.php | 11:49 |
Kilos | i keep that for voda calls from ian and use at times for getting data | 11:49 |
ThatGraemeGuy | phone calls, sms and snake | 11:49 |
Kilos | sis has one of them i think | 11:49 |
ThatGraemeGuy | no gprs, no bluetooth | 11:49 |
ThatGraemeGuy | it was the last nokia before they started coming out with bluetooth | 11:49 |
Kilos | hehe | 11:49 |
ThatGraemeGuy | it has teeth marks on it from a dog that isn't alive anymore | 11:50 |
ThatGraemeGuy | but it still works | 11:50 |
Kilos | hahaha | 11:50 |
Kilos | nokia have made some good fones | 11:50 |
ThatGraemeGuy | my first contract phone, i was 22 | 11:50 |
ThatGraemeGuy | december 2000 | 11:51 |
ThatGraemeGuy | man i've been an mtn customer for way too long | 11:51 |
Kilos | sjoe you still a baby them, albeit a clever one | 11:51 |
Symmetria | heh I've gone through so many phones I can't remeber what they all are | 11:51 |
Symmetria | now days I'm quite happy with my S5 | 11:51 |
ThatGraemeGuy | i can't bring myself to get a new phone | 11:52 |
Kilos | fones that work like tablets and vice versa are too much for me | 11:52 |
ThatGraemeGuy | they're like R10k nowadays, and do pretty much what my phone does | 11:52 |
ThatGraemeGuy | no thanks | 11:52 |
Symmetria | heh the thing I like about the S5 is the battery life, especially when I use it as a modem for my notebook for hours and it still lasts forever | 11:53 |
Symmetria | and the samsung gear 2 watch is a pretty nifty accessory for it | 11:54 |
ThatGraemeGuy | i have a mifi for that | 11:54 |
ThatGraemeGuy | the battery lasts around 2 days | 11:54 |
Kilos | hi zander you like being bottom of the page | 12:08 |
=== zander is now known as Spekko | ||
Spekko | Kilos: who's zander? | 12:43 |
Kilos | spekko | 12:43 |
Kilos | and vice versa | 12:44 |
Spekko | no | 12:44 |
Spekko | I'm just an entity | 12:44 |
Spekko | there is no other | 12:44 |
Spekko | than spekko | 12:44 |
Kilos | zander is now known as Spekko | 12:44 |
Spekko | zander is no more | 12:44 |
Kilos | i may be stupid but im not a fool | 12:44 |
Kilos | hehe | 12:44 |
Spekko | traces of him remains on this PC | 12:44 |
Kilos | ah | 12:45 |
Spekko | Sometimes net splits occur | 12:45 |
Spekko | and Zander re-emerges | 12:45 |
mazal | Bye everyone , enjoy your evening | 12:48 |
Kilos | Maaz, hi | 13:40 |
Maaz | Hello Kilos | 13:40 |
Kilos | Maaz, announce Meeting tomorrow night here guys, dont forget, 20.30 | 13:41 |
Maaz | Hear ye, hear ye! Meeting tomorrow night here guys, dont forget, 20.30 | 13:41 |
Kilos | Maaz, telkom help is <reply> tm-soc@telkom.co.za | 13:46 |
Maaz | Kilos: One learns a new thing every day | 13:46 |
Kilos | wbb. going to kde | 13:54 |
Kilos | hmm... | 13:59 |
Kilos | inetpro ping | 14:05 |
Kilos | looks like i gotta mail weenie too | 14:13 |
ThatGraemeGuy | http://mt.donaldson.za.net/new.png | 14:23 |
ThatGraemeGuy | Kilos: brave new world ;-) | 14:23 |
Kilos | lol ok lemme try and see data use | 14:24 |
ThatGraemeGuy | same address just port 30001 | 14:24 |
ThatGraemeGuy | don't build too much i probably wont keep it, just testing a bit | 14:24 |
Kilos | ok | 14:25 |
ThatGraemeGuy | has naturally occurring jungles and dungeons which we don't currently have | 14:25 |
ThatGraemeGuy | also you should find zinc just above height 0 | 14:25 |
ThatGraemeGuy | not sure where chrome starts | 14:25 |
Kilos | ThatGraemeGuy can you turn off that graph thing that runs when you use f5? | 14:28 |
ThatGraemeGuy | yes, press f5 | 14:28 |
ThatGraemeGuy | its your client that turns that on, you must've pressed f5 accidentally | 14:28 |
ThatGraemeGuy | server doesn't force that on | 14:28 |
ThatGraemeGuy | server has no idea about that stuff, its client info | 14:29 |
Kilos | no man i wanna see co-ords but without that other stuff running too | 14:29 |
ThatGraemeGuy | ai | 14:29 |
ThatGraemeGuy | press f5 | 14:29 |
Kilos | hmm... | 14:29 |
=== SubOracle is now known as SubOracle[away] | ||
Kilos | nuvolari ping | 15:08 |
nuvolari | Kilos: pong | 15:09 |
Kilos | nuvolari kan jy stoel more aand asb? | 15:10 |
Kilos | apie dink nie hy kan dit maak nie | 15:10 |
nuvolari | Kilos: ek dink dit is reg oom | 15:11 |
nuvolari | behoort nie 'n probleem te wees nie | 15:12 |
nuvolari | ek moet net ine vergeet nie | 15:12 |
Kilos | dankie seun | 15:12 |
nuvolari | *nie | 15:12 |
Kilos | ek sal jou epos as ek onthou | 15:12 |
Kilos | of net aanhou ping hier | 15:13 |
rio_zenta | Hello there. Anyone alive here? | 15:23 |
Kilos | hi rio_zenta | 15:23 |
rio_zenta | Howzit? Kilos | 15:23 |
Kilos | welcome to ubuntu-za | 15:23 |
Kilos | good ty and you? | 15:24 |
Kilos | hi Gremble | 15:24 |
Gremble | Hey Kilos | 15:24 |
=== Gremble is now known as Guest38547 | ||
Guest38547 | I hate xchat -_- | 15:24 |
rio_zenta | I'm great Kilos | 15:24 |
Guest38547 | Why did it not load my sasl D: | 15:24 |
Kilos | hexchat is better. xchat went baackwards | 15:25 |
rio_zenta | I'm using xchat... | 15:25 |
rio_zenta | wb gremble_ | 15:25 |
=== gremble_ is now known as Gremble | ||
Kilos | i used xchat for years but it wasnt hot on 14.04 so went to hexchat | 15:25 |
Gremble | I prefer irssi | 15:25 |
Gremble | But I am on the desktop now | 15:26 |
Kilos | na thats hard work | 15:26 |
Kilos | im on konversation here now | 15:26 |
Kilos | you can set konversation to look same as old xchat but it has some added features | 15:27 |
Kilos | rio_zenta tell us a bit about yourself | 15:27 |
rio_zenta | konversation? That would be the kubuntu flavour? | 15:28 |
Kilos | yip kde rocks | 15:28 |
rio_zenta | for my old systems, Xfce rocks :D | 15:28 |
Kilos | i use unity as well | 15:28 |
Kilos | ya unity and kde are a bit heavy | 15:29 |
Kilos | but the xfce stuff was harder for me to setup so i stuck with unity and kde | 15:30 |
rio_zenta | Kilos, I am an linux user for the past 4-odd years. My transition to linux has been gradual and I've even learnt to exist comfortably with a terminal-only (ubuntu-server). Currently, I am struggling to find a laptop that is win-free in SA. | 15:30 |
rio_zenta | Kilos: Which stuff from xfce? | 15:30 |
Kilos | are you looking for a perfomance lappy? | 15:30 |
Kilos | iirc i battled with sound and 3g and some other things so just gave up | 15:31 |
Kilos | i battle with most stuff but have got used to unity and kde so just accept them being a bit heavy | 15:32 |
Kilos | rio_zenta you been using linux so long and only get here now | 15:33 |
Kilos | but just in time for our monthly meeting tomorrow night at 20.30 | 15:34 |
rio_zenta | Kilos: It's not really a very high-end one, but I am looking at making a decent investment in something I can use for about 5 years. It should preferably be i5/i7 with an SSD drive. This should take care of performance (for me) for about 5/6 years. | 15:35 |
rio_zenta | Kilos, are you referring to drivers for sound? | 15:35 |
Kilos | rio_zenta i dont remember. when i tried it it hassled so i gave up | 15:36 |
rio_zenta | Kilos: I normally frequent #ubuntu and #ubuntu-server. I also used to lurk on linuxmint channels. I didn't know this channel existed until yesterday :'D | 15:36 |
Kilos | oh there was some mention of empty lappies in the lists a while ago | 15:37 |
Kilos | this is the za community channel | 15:37 |
Gremble | I had an email of a company that sells laptops with any linux flavour you want on it | 15:37 |
Gremble | But I seem to have lost it | 15:38 |
Gremble | :x | 15:38 |
rio_zenta | Gremble: searching your email? | 15:38 |
Gremble | Tried | 15:38 |
Kilos | rio_zenta join our mailing list and ask there someone will have the info for you | 15:38 |
Gremble | Seems I am bad with these kinds of things | 15:38 |
rio_zenta | I see that Mecer sell barebones, but they don't want to sell to me directly and I'm not sure of their quality. | 15:39 |
Kilos | rio_zenta http://bit.ly/MCOujZ | 15:39 |
Kilos | there is someone in za that dfoes | 15:39 |
rio_zenta | Thanks for the (tracking) bitly link Kilos :P | 15:40 |
Kilos | does | 15:40 |
Kilos | yw | 15:40 |
rio_zenta | I'll search the archives first. bbl | 15:40 |
Kilos | join man all linux users in za should join our list | 15:41 |
Kilos | its mainly where peeps ask for help with probs | 15:43 |
rio_zenta | Kilos: What is your history with ubuntu? | 16:01 |
Kilos | lol i started with win 95 | 16:04 |
Kilos | learned to fdisk format and reinstall there | 16:04 |
Kilos | then 98 and xp with same thing | 16:04 |
Kilos | at least one clean install a month | 16:05 |
Kilos | then i got a cell that i got to use as a modem | 16:05 |
Kilos | and the virii stuff started | 16:06 |
Kilos | and the unregistered windows cds | 16:06 |
Kilos | then a neighbour said he had 8.04 cd for me | 16:06 |
Kilos | couldnt get that to connect with the cell so started hunting and found peeps with9.04 and the main mailing list | 16:07 |
Kilos | someone there said try the za list for help because i ask stupid questions | 16:08 |
Kilos | and then the fly told me how to get here and since then the guys have carried me and helped with everything till i can now ask for min help | 16:09 |
Kilos | im a ballie with mechanics and farming backgrounds | 16:09 |
Kilos | now i live here | 16:10 |
Kilos | i love ubuntu even with unity being worse than gnome2 | 16:11 |
Kilos | im just west of ptown , where are you? | 16:11 |
Kilos | sorry rio_zenta i forget to use nicks most of the time | 16:13 |
rio_zenta | ptown = pinetown? | 16:14 |
Kilos | pretoria | 16:14 |
Gremble | Pretoria | 16:14 |
rio_zenta | oh, I'm here also. it's kak cold today | 16:14 |
Kilos | very | 16:14 |
Gremble | This afternoon it was nice | 16:14 |
Kilos | last few weeks have been eina | 16:14 |
rio_zenta | interesting story. glad to see people of diverse backgrounds picking up linux. | 16:15 |
Kilos | nice outside in the sun onlyu | 16:15 |
Kilos | only | 16:15 |
rio_zenta | Plus the girls at tukkies will only be putting on their short skirts from sep/oct :'D | 16:15 |
Kilos | now my son in rustenburg is on kubuntu as well | 16:15 |
Kilos | haha | 16:15 |
Kilos | us pta peeps are slowly becoming more | 16:16 |
Gremble | rio_zenta, I saw a couple today in dresses | 16:16 |
Gremble | I was glad :P | 16:16 |
rio_zenta | I'm on xubuntu currently. 12.04, cause I'm too lazy to get 14.04 | 16:17 |
Kilos | there are dvds from canonical floating around | 16:18 |
rio_zenta | Gremble: sometimes you can't look down or look up. you just have to blink slowly, or else your eyes will wander :'D | 16:18 |
Kilos | we get from them with each release | 16:18 |
rio_zenta | Do you guys not use the free wifi available in PTA? I think pta-east area is supported. | 16:18 |
Kilos | im too far out | 16:19 |
Gremble | I use it on campus | 16:19 |
Gremble | I live too west | 16:19 |
Kilos | im 6ks past the mahem robot on the way to brits | 16:19 |
Gremble | I'm not that far west :P I live a block or so east from the Daspoort tunnel | 16:20 |
Kilos | Gremble where west are you? | 16:21 |
Kilos | ah | 16:21 |
Gremble | Yup | 16:21 |
Kilos | im busy pleading with telkom to put wifi on the cell tower near here | 16:22 |
Gremble | We had to plead them to give us a phone line | 16:22 |
rio_zenta | aah okay, so even you okes are far away from it. I was thinking of pilot-testing a fibre project in my town. I think people will go for it if I convince them they can save on telkom and dstv | 16:22 |
Gremble | At the beginning of the year, they finally came and planted two poles next to our house for us | 16:22 |
Gremble | DSTV? | 16:23 |
Gremble | I don't think we have streaming services in SA | 16:23 |
rio_zenta | yeah, with 50mb speed, do you need satelite tv? | 16:23 |
Gremble | Access to legal content | 16:23 |
Kilos | rio_zenta where are you? | 16:24 |
rio_zenta | Gremble: I think Hulu is accessible here in SA, and I'm not referring to pirated/illegal stuff. | 16:44 |
rio_zenta | Kilos, I'm in what I think is south-west. | 16:45 |
rio_zenta | Gremble: Have they managed to fix the parking issues at tukkies? | 16:45 |
Gremble | No | 16:45 |
Gremble | I just get there ungodly early to get parking :P | 16:46 |
rio_zenta | where do you park? | 16:46 |
Gremble | There is student parking east of Oom Gert | 16:46 |
rio_zenta | aah okay. I know that spot. there's 1 next to campus and 1 opposite the girls res. | 16:46 |
rio_zenta | Gremble: What are you studying? | 16:49 |
Gremble | Applied Mathematics. What did/do you do rio_zenta ? | 16:49 |
rio_zenta | Economics. I was expecting you to say CS, although I suspect CS is your minor. | 16:50 |
Gremble | I did do CS | 16:50 |
Gremble | I dislike programming | 16:50 |
Gremble | I'm into stuff like computation theory though | 16:51 |
Gremble | The mathematics behind computers | 16:51 |
rio_zenta | Did you just do COS131/132? or were you studying CS? | 16:51 |
Gremble | Studying cS | 16:51 |
Gremble | finished first year | 16:51 |
rio_zenta | aah. You must've also enjoyed the terror modules called 121/110 | 16:52 |
Gremble | They failed me for 110 because I did not do the project. So I more have a dislike toward the lecturer than the content | 16:53 |
Gremble | It was simple enough | 16:53 |
Gremble | Got distinctions for both tests | 16:53 |
Gremble | I have no idea what the hell happend with 121. I passed that. I will never know how | 16:54 |
rio_zenta | That makes sense. A math guy would be analytical enough to cope with C/C++. So you second year now? | 16:54 |
Gremble | First year mathematics. Had to take the second semester math modules | 16:54 |
Gremble | So last semester I did databases and informatics | 16:54 |
rio_zenta | very interesting. I've gotta go now, but if you're around at say 9.30, we can chat a bit more. I can also introduce you to something beautiful. They call it "Python". | 16:55 |
Gremble | I can do python :P | 16:55 |
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Gremble | See you later | 16:55 |
smile | hi :) | 18:09 |
ThatGraemeGuy | 'lo peeps | 18:10 |
Gremble | o/ | 18:12 |
Gremble | sup | 18:12 |
ThatGraemeGuy | mmmm not a lot :) | 18:12 |
ThatGraemeGuy | that side? | 18:12 |
Gremble | Just preparing for tomorrow | 18:12 |
ThatGraemeGuy | whats happaning tomorrow? | 18:13 |
Gremble | Nothing special. Just making sure my work is ready for class | 18:14 |
Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 18:43 |
ThatGraemeGuy | lo | 18:43 |
magespawn | good evening | 18:45 |
Kilos | ohi magespawn meeting tomorrow night hey | 18:46 |
magespawn | yup | 18:47 |
Kilos | inetpro ping | 18:47 |
Kilos | hi superfly you chairing tomorrow night? the monkey cant make it | 18:47 |
Kilos | such pressure put on my poor old shoulders | 18:49 |
magespawn | you could chair | 18:49 |
Kilos | whew you peeps are hard of understanding | 18:50 |
Kilos | ive been saying no for years | 18:50 |
Kilos | im not a chair im a table | 18:50 |
Kilos | how are you magespawn ? | 18:51 |
Kilos | aw i missed williamk | 19:00 |
smile | good night! :) | 19:03 |
* Kilos watches the utms vodacom yoyo | 19:06 | |
superfly | Kilos: nee, I don't have time to. | 19:09 |
Kilos | haha im teasing superfly nuvo says he will | 19:13 |
Kilos | whew bushtech bad tonight hey | 19:14 |
Kilos | find a vodacom ip addy and run a ping and mtr to them | 19:14 |
Vince-0 | <lol>must be in the sticks | 19:15 |
magespawn | i am good thanks Kilos | 19:16 |
magespawn | how are things up there in freeze land? | 19:17 |
Kilos | yip he is on a nature reserve outside pretoria | 19:17 |
Kilos | cold magespawn | 19:17 |
Kilos | and i dunno where my pro is, | 19:18 |
Kilos | inetpro ping ping ping | 19:18 |
Kilos | i wonder if running a ping to a unstable connection will help it stay online | 19:20 |
Kilos | an unstable connection | 19:21 |
magespawn | in and out | 19:32 |
magespawn | i know a friend used to use it to keep a dial connection from being dropped | 19:33 |
Kilos | yes but will running a ping from outside to him do the same thing | 19:35 |
rio_zenta_afk | magespawn: where are you situated that is warm? | 19:49 |
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magespawn | KZN Hluhluwe | 20:08 |
ThatGraemeGuy | <Kilos> i wonder if running a ping to a unstable connection will help it stay online | 20:08 |
ThatGraemeGuy | um, no | 20:08 |
Kilos | oi poor guy | 20:08 |
magespawn | no idea Kilos, if they are disconnecting based on lack of activity then it might | 20:08 |
ThatGraemeGuy | old wives tales, eish | 20:08 |
ThatGraemeGuy | oh yeah if you're in 1996 and your connection has an idle timeout | 20:09 |
magespawn | but there should be communication anyway | 20:09 |
ThatGraemeGuy | but this is 2014 | 20:09 |
ThatGraemeGuy | so no | 20:09 |
ThatGraemeGuy | anyhoo | 20:09 |
ThatGraemeGuy | night night all | 20:09 |
Kilos | lol | 20:09 |
Kilos | night ThatGraemeGuy | 20:09 |
Kilos | sleep tight | 20:09 |
magespawn | indeed this was hluhluwe so only 5 years ago | 20:09 |
rio_zenta | magespawn: you guys have that warm weather vibe year-round. Even the capetonians should envy that. | 20:11 |
magespawn | did get a bit chilly this year down to about 3 | 20:12 |
rio_zenta | magespawn: Is Eames Investments your company? | 20:15 |
magespawn | anyway, i am off, good night all | 20:15 |
magespawn | yes | 20:16 |
magespawn | why did you ask? | 20:17 |
rio_zenta | I can see the name, magespawn | 20:18 |
magespawn | from the whois? | 20:18 |
magespawn | anyway, i am off, good night all | 20:21 |
rio_zenta | yep | 20:21 |
Kilos | rio_zenta you gonna visit us regularly? | 20:37 |
rio_zenta | I'll add you guys to my channel list, so when I open xchat, ill be here. | 20:38 |
Kilos | good man | 20:38 |
Kilos | #ubuntu is too hectic for me | 20:38 |
rio_zenta | seems like I can get a system76 laptop from the US, although I'm wondering whether there is a business opportunity to locally build laptops here. | 20:38 |
Kilos | superfly say hi to the new guy | 20:39 |
rio_zenta | #ubuntu is more support related. Try #ubuntu-offtopic (I think I have the name wrong) | 20:39 |
Kilos | rio_zenta superfly is our local python expert | 20:39 |
Kilos | sytem76 the ubuntu peeps | 20:39 |
rio_zenta | I've probably met superfly if he attends the python meetups in gauteng. | 20:40 |
Kilos | no he is in ct | 20:40 |
superfly | negatory, I live in the promised land. | 20:40 |
Kilos | lol | 20:40 |
rio_zenta | do you attend the cape town meetups? superfly | 20:40 |
superfly | rio_zenta: not really. I have real life to deal with. | 20:40 |
superfly | I once gave a talk there a few years ago. | 20:41 |
Kilos | ct was promised to penguins | 20:41 |
rio_zenta | ouch superfly. It took us real effort to get it going here in GP and we're seeing good numbers now | 20:41 |
superfly | I saw. I'm watching. I'm super chuffed. | 20:42 |
rio_zenta | Would you guys buy locally-assembled laptops with limited software support? medium to high end only ? | 20:42 |
superfly | rio_zenta: I know wasbeer... uh... golly, what's his real name? | 20:42 |
rio_zenta | walter? | 20:43 |
Kilos | leibrand | 20:44 |
Kilos | is that him | 20:45 |
rio_zenta | yeah, cool guy. He should be here I think. | 20:45 |
Kilos | he used to be here all the time | 20:45 |
rio_zenta | Kilos, based on your estimates, about how many linux users do you think there are in SA? | 20:45 |
Kilos | i think lots but most dont know about us | 20:46 |
Kilos | varsities have many nmowadays | 20:46 |
Kilos | nowadays | 20:46 |
superfly | Yup, Walter | 20:47 |
Kilos | there are also some older peepslike bushtech and some that only come here when they got probs | 20:48 |
rio_zenta | hmmm, can't exactly sell a 9000 rand laptop to a varsity student... | 20:48 |
Kilos | nope they are expensive | 20:48 |
Kilos | and dual cores arent too good anymore. thats about all you can get cheaply | 20:49 |
rio_zenta | i guess i'll just bare the win tax then. If we had like over 10 000 users in SA, there'd already be someone selling them here. | 20:49 |
Kilos | there was a guy here about a year back that had a pc shop in the freestate i think that said he would sell linux pcs but he disappeared | 20:50 |
charl | dell sells linux preinstalled (ubuntu) | 20:51 |
charl | but i think you have to order it specifically | 20:51 |
Kilos | the good thing about a windows lappy is that you can format it and install linux | 20:51 |
superfly | rio_zenta: I'm looking to buy a laptop too, and have decided to just live with the Windows tax. | 20:51 |
rio_zenta | charl: I contacted them in may. They referred me to one of their suppliers, whom I never had any contact with after the referral. | 20:51 |
charl | as in, you didn't contact them, or they didn't contact you back ? | 20:52 |
rio_zenta | superfly: What do you recommend? If you'd be interested, we could ship 2 system76 Gazelles here. I see the quote comes out to about $970 for a "beast". | 20:52 |
superfly | rio_zenta: I don't have that sort of money, I'm just going to buy a bottom of the range toshiba | 20:53 |
rio_zenta | charl: the dell sales guy told me he contacted them on my behalf. It's kind of like mustek sales, who reply to emails after 20 days. | 20:53 |
charl | bah :( | 20:53 |
charl | very unprofessional | 20:54 |
rio_zenta | oh my bad superfly. I assumed you were a high-end user. | 20:54 |
superfly | rio_zenta: that's why I have a desktop. | 20:54 |
superfly | rio_zenta: that's my "high end" | 20:54 |
superfly | which it doesn't really need to be, since I don't do anything that really requires that amount of firepower | 20:55 |
rio_zenta | superfly: What purposes do you use your machines for? | 20:56 |
superfly | development | 20:56 |
rio_zenta | Here is the company I am suppose to get a dell from: http://www.westech.co.za/dell | 20:57 |
rio_zenta | superfly: Are you a python dev-house? | 20:57 |
superfly | uh... sortof | 20:57 |
superfly | we do Python, C++, C, a little assembler and hardware | 20:57 |
rio_zenta | I hope you're not the same company whose job details are being spammed the crap out of on every jobs board in SA. I see a company looking for: Python/C/C++ exp :'D | 20:59 |
rio_zenta | oh, spammed by recruiters of course. | 20:59 |
superfly | what's the name of hte company? | 20:59 |
superfly | I suppose they don't say, hey? | 20:59 |
rio_zenta | correct. I could provide a link to a description though. | 21:00 |
rio_zenta | are you guys in stellenbosch? | 21:01 |
superfly | No, Cape Town | 21:02 |
superfly | We are kinda still looking for a developer. | 21:02 |
rio_zenta | do you do low-level stuff? | 21:03 |
superfly | We do everything from the actual electronics on the board, to writing server-side Python | 21:04 |
superfly | two of the guys on the team specialise in the electronics, I specialise in the Python | 21:04 |
superfly | Another guy specialises in C++ | 21:05 |
superfly | so we have specialists, but everyone digs in and does what is required. | 21:05 |
rio_zenta | You're not hard to track down :P | 21:08 |
rio_zenta | I best disappear for now. Getting late. See you guys again soon. | 21:15 |
Kilos | whew night peeps | 22:22 |
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