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Symmetriamorning04:51
nuvolario/ oh hi05:44
mazalMorning everyone06:09
bduk1More almal06:16
Cantideafternoon~06:20
Squirmmorning all06:43
nuvolarioh hi mazal, Cantide, Squirm 06:43
nuvolariMaaz: seen kilos06:44
Maaznuvolari: kilos was last seen 8 hours, 28 minutes and 11 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-07-20 15:15:50 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2014-07-20 15:16:17 PDT06:44
Cantide'-'/06:44
Squirmhello nuvolari, Cantide 06:44
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mazalHello everyone06:53
mazalPlenty of kernel updates these days hey06:53
ThatGraemeGuymorning peeps06:55
Cantidetime to scurry back to work!06:57
Cantide안녕!06:57
charlmorning all07:11
charlMaaz: coffee on07:11
* Maaz starts grinding coffee07:11
MaazCoffee's ready for charl!07:15
charlMaaz: thanks07:16
Maazcharl: Sure07:16
nuvolarioh hi charl :)07:19
charlhi nuvolari 07:28
Kiloshi Vince-0 ThatGraemeGuy and others08:48
Vince-0o/08:50
ThatGraemeGuy'lo Kilos08:50
Kilossjoe ThatGraemeGuy used over 400m on minetest yesterday08:50
Kilosmaybe must just mine after 11pm 08:51
Kiloshaha tore up lots of my roof for the mv solar panels and they wouldnt connect, after about an hour of moving them and cables with no success i twigged they are lv panels08:53
Kiloswhat a twit08:56
Kilosnow get real clever and make the game zip all data in and out to 1/4 its size then one can play lots09:00
Kiloshi mazal inetpro 09:02
mazalOom I struggled a lot to figure out those electric networks09:26
mazalEventually I found the correct info that09:26
Kiloshaha mazal i have my lv network working lekker and wantes the mv one for the toolbox09:47
Kilosonly didnt make mv panels09:47
Kilosgraeme showed me how09:48
Kilosits just that each new thing needs so many others to make it work09:49
mazalOom Kilos , I didn't know that the solar generator , switch stationa and battery packs must be in the air with cable connecting underneath it10:09
mazalMine was all on flat surface and refused to work :P10:09
Kiloslol10:15
Kilosya i spent hours trying to connect, actually days then graeme came and showed me how10:15
Kilosalso the most efficient height for them is at 35.410:16
Kilosabove you get no gain but below that you lose power10:16
Kilosmazal, ^^10:17
Kilosive got grinders compressors and electric furnace going10:18
Kiloscompressor make the carbon cloth stuff10:18
ThatGraemeGuyi built a nuclear reactor core10:21
ThatGraemeGuyand eventually after digging in the code realised you need a whole bunch of stuff surrounding it10:21
ThatGraemeGuyor it will just explode10:21
ThatGraemeGuyso you have the core10:22
ThatGraemeGuyand it must be completly surrounded by water10:23
ThatGraemeGuyand that is surrounded by stainless steel  blocks10:23
ThatGraemeGuywhich is surrounded by blast-resistant concrete10:23
ThatGraemeGuyand that is surrounded by concrete10:23
ThatGraemeGuyso the whole thing's a 9x9x9 block structure10:24
ThatGraemeGuyof pretty expensive stuff10:24
ThatGraemeGuyso not anytime soon10:24
ThatGraemeGuyKilos: when you used over 400MB, how many times did you connect?10:26
Kilostwice with bart and twice with me ThatGraemeGuy 10:27
ThatGraemeGuymmm10:27
ThatGraemeGuyi think most of the transfer is the initial connection10:27
ThatGraemeGuyduring play its quite light on data10:27
ThatGraemeGuyor i might be wrong10:28
Kilosdo you have a tool to monitor by you , i use iftop and only keep irc pidgin and minetest running10:28
Kilosand this month end i want to get a 1TB drive so no spare for data10:29
mazalMy server uses 800mb average a day for two users10:29
Kilosbeen buying 2 bundles and ian been giving one the last coupla months10:30
mazalLemme check client side10:30
Kilosi wonder if mine isnt charging up and download10:30
Symmetriaheh man, Ive downloaded 17 terabytes worth of sourceforge crap in the last 5 days10:31
Symmetriatakes forever10:31
KilosThatGraemeGuy, when bart was mining down deep it used less than when he came to work in my house10:31
KilosSymmetria, why download crap?10:31
Kilosonly get usefull stuff man10:32
mazalClient side much less , 500mb also for two users10:32
charlSymmetria: you building a sourceforge mirror ?10:32
charlKilos: i think he has to download everything if he wants a mirror, crap and everything else that comes with it10:33
Kilosaha10:33
ThatGraemeGuyKilos: i don't have a tool, no10:34
ThatGraemeGuyi don't need to care about how much data i use10:34
ThatGraemeGuyunfortunately you're in a bit of a unique spot10:34
Kiloslol10:34
Kilosi used to go 2 months on a 2+1 bundle now need 3 bundles a month10:35
ThatGraemeGuywho is that with?10:43
ThatGraemeGuyand who all has good signal in your area?10:44
Kiloswith 8ta and only voda is good here as well, but 8ta outstrips them10:48
ThatGraemeGuynot mtn?10:48
Kilosmtn only has edge tower10:49
Kilosi have an mtn sim in cell fone10:49
ThatGraemeGuyok so with telkom you must be on the telkom network10:49
ThatGraemeGuysince they have their network and mtn for areas where their network doesn't reach yet10:49
Kilosyip telkom put a transceiver on the mtn tower about 800 metres from me10:50
Kilosvoda was on same tower too, but now they built their own owne a few ks further away and often sister has no connection10:51
ThatGraemeGuyah ok10:51
Kilosher tablet uses vodacom10:51
ThatGraemeGuyso there is an mtn tower, just not upgraded to 3g yet10:51
ThatGraemeGuythat's a bummer :(10:51
Kilosi started with mtn, and tried for about a year to get them to upgrade but they said they dont want to upgrade this one in the near future10:52
ThatGraemeGuythat's sucky10:53
ThatGraemeGuybecause if there was good mtn signal you could get your data from afrihost for far better value10:53
Kiloslol did upgrades of 9.04 and 9.10 that took 9 hours10:53
Kilosya i asked you when you bought that afrihost back then10:53
Kilosthat special10:54
ThatGraemeGuyoh the launch deal10:54
Kilosya10:54
Kilosalso mtn suck, when i put airtime on it gets stolen within days and when i fone them they say put more and well try block the thieves10:55
Kilosnow i put 5 bucks and send 2 smsses immediately just to keep the number alive10:56
Kilosswines10:56
Kiloshi bushtech 10:57
bushtechdag Kilos10:57
Kilosumts is as fast as hsdpa hey10:58
Kilosthats what i see here for you from voda10:58
ThatGraemeGuyKilos: you mean your mtn number that you use for voice calls?10:59
Kilosyessir11:01
Kilosmy cell phone11:01
ThatGraemeGuyKilos: yes "UMTS" is pretty much what was originally called "3G" when vodacom first started offering it11:01
ThatGraemeGuyHSDPA/HSPA+ are later revisions, but still UMTS11:01
mazalDo you guys know what a CNC machine and Quarry does ? Technic's site don't have descriptions for those11:02
Kilosaha ty so bushhas the speed at least, just needs to get reliability sorted11:02
ThatGraemeGuyand as far as your phone goes if your mtn airtime keeps disappearing, you can simply port your number to someone else, the porting process is quite simple nowadays11:02
nuvolarioh hi oom Kilos 11:02
Kiloshi nuvolari 11:02
ThatGraemeGuymazal: i haven't got the CNC machine to work yet11:03
Kilosbut wont it still be stolen ThatGraemeGuy , the thieves steal from that number?11:03
mazalWhat is it suppose to do ThatGraemeGuy ?11:03
ThatGraemeGuyKilos: i don't know, that sounds like a bullshit excuse to be honest11:04
ThatGraemeGuymazal: a real life cnc machine is a computer-programmable milling machine or lathe11:04
ThatGraemeGuybasically for shaping stuff11:04
mazalOk ic11:05
ThatGraemeGuyso you have a program to make a cylinder from a block of steel or whatnot11:05
ThatGraemeGuyor a pyramid, etc11:05
Kilosi go eat11:05
mazalThe stuff fitters and turners does ?11:05
ThatGraemeGuyi haven't had a chance to look at the code to see if its completely implemented yet11:05
ThatGraemeGuythink so, yes11:05
ThatGraemeGuyand a quarry, not sure11:05
ThatGraemeGuyi see the technic wiki is on github, i've been intending to see about pushing some updates to make the documentation more useful11:06
ThatGraemeGuybecause right now you have to fiddle around and rely on outdated web docs and old forum threads11:06
ThatGraemeGuyi find it more useful to go through the Lua code to figure things out11:07
mazalBTW , stay away from ethereal11:08
mazalCompletely destroyed my world11:08
ThatGraemeGuyfrom what now?11:08
mazalIs a mod11:08
ThatGraemeGuyoh cool, so you can come join ours again11:08
ThatGraemeGuy:P11:08
mazalLooks cool with lots of new biomes11:08
mazalbut don't work on an old world11:09
ThatGraemeGuywell yeah11:09
ThatGraemeGuypretty sure that would've been mentioned in the forum somewhere11:09
ThatGraemeGuyanything mapgen-related tends to be limited and/or destructive when applied to an existing map db11:09
mazalAnd wierd thing , my backups I loaded back didn't solve the problem11:09
mazalEven the manual ones11:10
mazalI had to go back to Thursday when I made a complete image of the drive11:10
mazalAs usual , I copied the whole .minetest folder before modding11:10
mazalCopied back that whole folder , didn't work :(11:10
ThatGraemeGuyyou did stop the server first right? that's the only way that makes sense11:11
mazalYep11:11
ThatGraemeGuyweird11:11
mazalThat makes me think that something else happened to the world before the mod , and the backup I made already had a broken world in it. Is the only way that explains it11:12
mazalFrom now on I full image the drive every day to be sure11:12
mazalAnd I found a nifte little whereis mod that you can check out if you don't have it yet. Very handy to find and teleport to your buddy quickly ;)11:13
ThatGraemeGuyKilos: there's a tool in technic called a prospector which i hadn't noticed before11:14
ThatGraemeGuyjust reading the code it seems like you tell it a type of thing you are looking for, like mese, and it will tell you when you get close11:14
ThatGraemeGuymight be useful11:14
ThatGraemeGuymazal: it looks like people still need the teleport privilege even with that mod?11:16
mazalcorrect11:16
ThatGraemeGuyum11:16
mazalThat simply provides the coordinates for the user11:17
ThatGraemeGuythen its sort of useless though11:17
mazalNo is very handy11:17
mazalI use it to get to barry quickly when I need to11:17
ThatGraemeGuyhow so?11:17
mazalGet his coordinates11:17
mazalTeleport11:17
ThatGraemeGuyit's actually less user-friendly than "/teleport barry"11:18
ThatGraemeGuyif you already have the teleport privilege11:18
mazalhmm , I didn't know teleport accepts usernames11:18
mazalkewl11:18
ThatGraemeGuyhttp://wiki.minetest.net/Server_commands#Teleportation11:18
ThatGraemeGuyyup11:18
mazalI have a whole paper full of adresses already lol11:19
mazalHome 1 ,2 ,3 , bottom of mine , chest room etc etc11:20
ThatGraemeGuyyou aren't using the waypoints of unified_inventory? ;-)11:22
mazalDon't know how11:22
mazalI only know of the single one for home11:22
ThatGraemeGuy:-o11:23
ThatGraemeGuybad server admin :P11:23
Kilossjoe ThatGraemeGuy prospector sounds good11:24
KilosThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: i don't know, that sounds like a bullshit excuse to be honest11:28
Kilosme or mtn?11:29
ThatGraemeGuymtn11:29
Kilosoh whew11:29
ThatGraemeGuythey must explain where your airtime goes11:29
Kiloslol i wondered what i said wrong again11:29
ThatGraemeGuythey can't just say "thieves", that's a criminal case11:29
Kilosi even went to hello peter11:29
Kilosthen got voda and when that number started being robbed they gave me a code to type in to block all skelms11:30
Kilosbut my myn i have to keep because the cell is mtn locked and i cant find an unlock xrack for this model11:31
Kilosotherwise that would be 8ta already as well11:31
Kilosweird things happening, today gmail in evo keeps asking for passwords over and over11:37
Kilosgrrr11:37
ThatGraemeGuy:-o11:37
ThatGraemeGuysim-locking hasn't been legal for ages already11:38
Kilosits an old cell ThatGraemeGuy 11:38
Kilossagem my404x11:38
Kilosgood for calls and smsses11:39
ThatGraemeGuyi have a nokia 6210 that still works11:45
Kilosmy 2730 also still works too, was my modem for quite a while11:46
ThatGraemeGuyhehe11:47
ThatGraemeGuy2730 from 2009 it seems?11:47
Kilos?11:47
ThatGraemeGuynokia 2730, i'm not familiar with it so i looke it up, looks like it was released in 2009?11:47
Kilosits a good fone but slow as a modem11:48
Kilos2730 classic11:48
ThatGraemeGuyyesh11:48
Kilosnice simple fone11:48
ThatGraemeGuyyes11:48
ThatGraemeGuyyou familiar with the 6210?11:48
ThatGraemeGuyhttp://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_6210-12.php11:49
Kilosi keep that for voda calls from ian and use at times for getting data11:49
ThatGraemeGuyphone calls, sms and snake11:49
Kilossis has one of them i think11:49
ThatGraemeGuyno gprs, no bluetooth11:49
ThatGraemeGuyit was the last nokia before they started coming out with bluetooth11:49
Kiloshehe11:49
ThatGraemeGuyit has teeth marks on it from a dog that isn't alive anymore11:50
ThatGraemeGuybut it still works11:50
Kiloshahaha11:50
Kilosnokia have made some good fones11:50
ThatGraemeGuymy first contract phone, i was 2211:50
ThatGraemeGuydecember 200011:51
ThatGraemeGuyman i've been an mtn customer for way too long11:51
Kilossjoe you still a baby them, albeit a clever one11:51
Symmetriaheh I've gone through so many phones I can't remeber what they all are11:51
Symmetrianow days I'm quite happy with my S511:51
ThatGraemeGuyi can't bring myself to get a new phone11:52
Kilosfones that work like tablets and vice versa are too much for me11:52
ThatGraemeGuythey're like R10k nowadays, and do pretty much what my phone does11:52
ThatGraemeGuyno thanks11:52
Symmetriaheh the thing I like about the S5 is the battery life, especially when I use it as a modem for my notebook for hours and it still lasts forever11:53
Symmetriaand the samsung gear 2 watch is a pretty nifty accessory for it11:54
ThatGraemeGuyi have a mifi for that11:54
ThatGraemeGuythe battery lasts around 2 days11:54
Kiloshi zander you like being bottom of the page12:08
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SpekkoKilos: who's zander?12:43
Kilosspekko12:43
Kilosand vice versa12:44
Spekkono12:44
SpekkoI'm just an entity12:44
Spekkothere is no other12:44
Spekkothan spekko12:44
Kiloszander is now known as Spekko12:44
Spekkozander is no more12:44
Kilosi may be stupid but im not a fool12:44
Kiloshehe12:44
Spekkotraces of him remains on this PC12:44
Kilosah12:45
SpekkoSometimes net splits occur12:45
Spekkoand Zander re-emerges12:45
mazalBye everyone , enjoy your evening12:48
KilosMaaz, hi13:40
MaazHello Kilos13:40
KilosMaaz, announce Meeting tomorrow night here guys, dont forget, 20.3013:41
MaazHear ye, hear ye! Meeting tomorrow night here guys, dont forget, 20.3013:41
KilosMaaz, telkom help is <reply> tm-soc@telkom.co.za13:46
MaazKilos: One learns a new thing every day13:46
Kiloswbb. going to kde13:54
Kiloshmm...13:59
Kilosinetpro  ping14:05
Kiloslooks like i gotta mail weenie too14:13
ThatGraemeGuyhttp://mt.donaldson.za.net/new.png14:23
ThatGraemeGuyKilos: brave new world ;-)14:23
Kiloslol ok lemme try and see data use14:24
ThatGraemeGuysame address just port 3000114:24
ThatGraemeGuydon't build too much i probably wont keep it, just testing a bit14:24
Kilosok14:25
ThatGraemeGuyhas naturally occurring jungles and dungeons which we don't currently have14:25
ThatGraemeGuyalso you should find zinc just above height 014:25
ThatGraemeGuynot sure where chrome starts14:25
KilosThatGraemeGuy  can you turn off that graph thing that runs when you use f5?14:28
ThatGraemeGuyyes, press f514:28
ThatGraemeGuyits your client that turns that on, you must've pressed f5 accidentally14:28
ThatGraemeGuyserver doesn't force that on14:28
ThatGraemeGuyserver has no idea about that stuff, its client info14:29
Kilosno man i wanna see co-ords but without that other stuff running too14:29
ThatGraemeGuyai14:29
ThatGraemeGuypress f514:29
Kiloshmm...14:29
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Kilosnuvolari  ping15:08
nuvolariKilos: pong15:09
Kilosnuvolari  kan jy stoel more aand asb?15:10
Kilosapie dink nie hy kan dit maak nie15:10
nuvolariKilos: ek dink dit is reg oom15:11
nuvolaribehoort nie 'n probleem te wees nie15:12
nuvolariek moet net ine vergeet nie15:12
Kilosdankie seun15:12
nuvolari*nie15:12
Kilosek sal jou epos as ek onthou15:12
Kilosof net aanhou ping hier15:13
rio_zentaHello there. Anyone alive here?15:23
Kiloshi rio_zenta  15:23
rio_zentaHowzit? Kilos 15:23
Kiloswelcome to ubuntu-za15:23
Kilosgood ty and you?15:24
Kiloshi Gremble  15:24
GrembleHey Kilos 15:24
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Guest38547I hate xchat -_-15:24
rio_zentaI'm great Kilos 15:24
Guest38547Why did it not load my sasl D:15:24
Kiloshexchat is better. xchat went baackwards15:25
rio_zentaI'm using xchat...15:25
rio_zentawb gremble_ 15:25
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Kilosi used xchat for years but it wasnt hot on 14.04 so went to hexchat15:25
GrembleI prefer irssi15:25
GrembleBut I am on the desktop now15:26
Kilosna thats hard work15:26
Kilosim on konversation here now15:26
Kilosyou can set konversation to look same as old xchat but it has some added features15:27
Kilosrio_zenta  tell us a bit about yourself15:27
rio_zentakonversation? That would be the kubuntu flavour?15:28
Kilosyip kde rocks15:28
rio_zentafor my old systems, Xfce rocks :D15:28
Kilosi use unity as well15:28
Kilosya unity and kde are a bit heavy15:29
Kilosbut the xfce stuff was harder for me to setup so i stuck with unity and kde15:30
rio_zentaKilos, I am an linux user for the past 4-odd years. My transition to linux has been gradual and I've even learnt to exist comfortably with a terminal-only (ubuntu-server). Currently, I am struggling to find a laptop that is win-free in SA.15:30
rio_zentaKilos: Which stuff from xfce?15:30
Kilosare you looking for a perfomance lappy?15:30
Kilosiirc i battled with sound and 3g and some other things so just gave up15:31
Kilosi battle with most stuff but have got used to unity and kde so just accept them being a bit heavy15:32
Kilosrio_zenta  you been using linux so long and only get here now15:33
Kilosbut just in time for our monthly meeting tomorrow night at 20.3015:34
rio_zentaKilos: It's not really a very high-end one, but I am looking at making a decent investment in something I can use for about 5 years. It should preferably be i5/i7 with an SSD drive. This should take care of performance (for me) for about 5/6 years.15:35
rio_zentaKilos, are you referring to drivers for sound? 15:35
Kilosrio_zenta  i dont remember. when i tried it it hassled so i gave up15:36
rio_zentaKilos: I normally frequent #ubuntu and #ubuntu-server. I also used to lurk on linuxmint channels. I didn't know this channel existed until yesterday :'D15:36
Kilosoh there was some mention of empty lappies in the lists a while ago15:37
Kilosthis is the za community channel15:37
GrembleI had an email of a company that sells laptops with any linux flavour you want on it15:37
GrembleBut I seem to have lost it15:38
Gremble:x15:38
rio_zentaGremble: searching your email?15:38
GrembleTried15:38
Kilosrio_zenta  join our mailing list and ask there someone will have the info for you15:38
GrembleSeems I am bad with these kinds of things15:38
rio_zentaI see that Mecer sell barebones, but they don't want to sell to me directly and I'm not sure of their quality.15:39
Kilosrio_zenta   http://bit.ly/MCOujZ15:39
Kilosthere is someone in za that dfoes15:39
rio_zentaThanks for the (tracking) bitly link Kilos :P15:40
Kilosdoes15:40
Kilosyw15:40
rio_zentaI'll search the archives first. bbl15:40
Kilosjoin man all linux users in za should join our list15:41
Kilosits mainly where peeps ask for help with probs15:43
rio_zentaKilos: What is your history with ubuntu?16:01
Kiloslol i started with win 9516:04
Kiloslearned to fdisk format and reinstall there16:04
Kilosthen 98 and xp with same thing16:04
Kilosat least one clean install a month16:05
Kilosthen i got a cell that i got to use as a modem16:05
Kilosand the virii stuff started16:06
Kilosand the unregistered windows cds16:06
Kilosthen a neighbour said he had 8.04 cd for me16:06
Kiloscouldnt get that to connect with the cell so started hunting and found peeps with9.04  and the main mailing list16:07
Kilossomeone there said try the za list for help because i ask stupid questions16:08
Kilosand then the fly told me how to get here and since then the guys have carried me and helped with everything till i can now ask for min help16:09
Kilosim a ballie with mechanics and farming backgrounds16:09
Kilosnow i live here16:10
Kilosi love ubuntu even with unity being worse than gnome216:11
Kilosim just west of ptown , where are you?16:11
Kilossorry rio_zenta  i forget to use nicks most of the time16:13
rio_zentaptown = pinetown?16:14
Kilospretoria16:14
GremblePretoria16:14
rio_zentaoh, I'm here also. it's kak cold today16:14
Kilosvery16:14
GrembleThis afternoon it was nice16:14
Kiloslast few weeks have been eina16:14
rio_zentainteresting story. glad to see people of diverse backgrounds picking up linux.16:15
Kilosnice outside in the sun onlyu16:15
Kilosonly16:15
rio_zentaPlus the girls at tukkies will only be putting on their short skirts from sep/oct :'D16:15
Kilosnow my son in rustenburg is on kubuntu as well16:15
Kiloshaha16:15
Kilosus pta peeps are slowly becoming more16:16
Gremblerio_zenta, I saw a couple today in dresses16:16
GrembleI was glad :P16:16
rio_zentaI'm on xubuntu currently. 12.04, cause I'm too lazy to get 14.0416:17
Kilosthere are dvds from canonical floating around16:18
rio_zentaGremble: sometimes you can't look down or look up. you just have to blink slowly, or else your eyes will wander :'D16:18
Kiloswe get from them with each release16:18
rio_zentaDo you guys not use the free wifi available in PTA? I think pta-east area is supported.16:18
Kilosim too far out16:19
GrembleI use it on campus16:19
GrembleI live too west16:19
Kilosim 6ks past the mahem robot on the way to brits16:19
GrembleI'm not that far west :P I live a block or so east from the Daspoort tunnel16:20
KilosGremble  where west are you?16:21
Kilosah16:21
GrembleYup16:21
Kilosim busy pleading with telkom to put wifi on the cell tower near here16:22
GrembleWe had to plead them to give us a phone line16:22
rio_zentaaah okay, so even you okes are far away from it. I was thinking of pilot-testing a fibre project in my town. I think people will go for it if I convince them they can save on telkom and dstv16:22
GrembleAt the beginning of the year,  they finally came and planted two poles next to our house for us16:22
GrembleDSTV?16:23
GrembleI don't think we have streaming services in SA16:23
rio_zentayeah, with 50mb speed, do you need satelite tv?16:23
GrembleAccess to legal content16:23
Kilosrio_zenta  where are you? 16:24
rio_zentaGremble: I think Hulu is accessible here in SA, and I'm not referring to pirated/illegal stuff.16:44
rio_zentaKilos, I'm in what I think is south-west. 16:45
rio_zentaGremble: Have they managed to fix the parking issues at tukkies?16:45
GrembleNo 16:45
GrembleI just get there ungodly early to get parking :P16:46
rio_zentawhere do you park? 16:46
GrembleThere is student parking east of Oom Gert16:46
rio_zentaaah okay. I know that spot. there's 1 next to campus and 1 opposite the girls res.16:46
rio_zentaGremble: What are you studying?16:49
GrembleApplied Mathematics. What did/do you do rio_zenta ?16:49
rio_zentaEconomics. I was expecting you to say CS, although I suspect CS is your minor.16:50
GrembleI did do CS16:50
GrembleI dislike programming16:50
GrembleI'm into stuff like computation theory though16:51
GrembleThe mathematics behind computers16:51
rio_zentaDid you just do COS131/132? or were you studying CS?16:51
GrembleStudying cS16:51
Gremblefinished first year16:51
rio_zentaaah. You must've also enjoyed the terror modules called 121/11016:52
GrembleThey failed me for 110 because I did not do the project. So I more have a dislike toward the lecturer than the content16:53
GrembleIt was simple enough16:53
GrembleGot distinctions for both tests16:53
GrembleI have no idea what the hell happend with 121. I passed that. I will never know how16:54
rio_zentaThat makes sense. A math guy would be analytical enough to cope with C/C++. So you second year now?16:54
GrembleFirst year mathematics. Had to take the second semester math modules16:54
GrembleSo last semester I did databases and informatics16:54
rio_zentavery interesting. I've gotta go now, but if you're around at say 9.30, we can chat a bit more. I can also introduce you to something beautiful. They call it "Python".16:55
GrembleI can do python :P16:55
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GrembleSee you later16:55
smilehi :)18:09
ThatGraemeGuy'lo peeps18:10
Grembleo/18:12
Gremblesup18:12
ThatGraemeGuymmmm not a lot :)18:12
ThatGraemeGuythat side?18:12
GrembleJust preparing for tomorrow18:12
ThatGraemeGuywhats happaning tomorrow?18:13
GrembleNothing special. Just making sure my work is ready for class18:14
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy  18:43
ThatGraemeGuylo18:43
magespawngood evening18:45
Kilosohi magespawn  meeting tomorrow night hey18:46
magespawnyup18:47
Kilosinetpro  ping18:47
Kiloshi superfly  you chairing tomorrow night? the monkey cant make it18:47
Kilossuch pressure put on my poor old shoulders18:49
magespawnyou could chair18:49
Kiloswhew you peeps are hard of understanding18:50
Kilosive been saying no for years18:50
Kilosim not a chair im a table18:50
Kiloshow are you magespawn  ?18:51
Kilosaw i missed williamk19:00
smilegood night! :)19:03
* Kilos watches the utms vodacom yoyo19:06
superflyKilos: nee, I don't have time to. 19:09
Kiloshaha im teasing superfly  nuvo says he will19:13
Kiloswhew bushtech  bad tonight hey19:14
Kilosfind a vodacom ip addy and run  a ping and mtr to them19:14
Vince-0<lol>must be in the sticks19:15
magespawni am good thanks Kilos19:16
magespawnhow are things up there in freeze land?19:17
Kilosyip he is on a nature reserve outside pretoria19:17
Kiloscold magespawn  19:17
Kilosand i dunno where my pro is, 19:18
Kilosinetpro  ping ping ping19:18
Kilosi wonder if running a ping to a unstable connection will help it stay online19:20
Kilosan unstable connection19:21
magespawnin and out19:32
magespawni know a friend used to use it to keep a dial connection from being dropped19:33
Kilosyes but will running a ping from outside to him do the same thing19:35
rio_zenta_afkmagespawn: where are you situated that is warm?19:49
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magespawnKZN Hluhluwe20:08
ThatGraemeGuy<Kilos> i wonder if running a ping to a unstable connection will help it stay online20:08
ThatGraemeGuyum, no20:08
Kilosoi poor guy20:08
magespawnno idea Kilos, if they are disconnecting based on lack of activity then it might20:08
ThatGraemeGuyold wives tales, eish20:08
ThatGraemeGuyoh yeah if you're in 1996 and your connection has an idle timeout20:09
magespawnbut there should be communication anyway20:09
ThatGraemeGuybut this is 201420:09
ThatGraemeGuyso no20:09
ThatGraemeGuyanyhoo20:09
ThatGraemeGuynight night all20:09
Kiloslol20:09
Kilosnight ThatGraemeGuy  20:09
Kilossleep tight20:09
magespawnindeed this was hluhluwe so only 5 years ago20:09
rio_zentamagespawn: you guys have that warm weather vibe year-round. Even the capetonians should envy that.20:11
magespawndid get a bit chilly this year down to about 320:12
rio_zentamagespawn: Is Eames Investments your company?20:15
magespawnanyway, i am off, good night all20:15
magespawnyes 20:16
magespawnwhy did you ask?20:17
rio_zentaI can see the name, magespawn 20:18
magespawnfrom the whois?20:18
magespawnanyway, i am off, good night all20:21
rio_zentayep20:21
Kilosrio_zenta  you gonna visit us regularly?20:37
rio_zentaI'll add you guys to my channel list, so when I open xchat, ill be here.20:38
Kilosgood man20:38
Kilos#ubuntu is too hectic for me20:38
rio_zentaseems like I can get a system76 laptop from the US, although I'm wondering whether there is a business opportunity to locally build laptops here.20:38
Kilossuperfly  say hi to the new guy20:39
rio_zenta#ubuntu is more support related. Try #ubuntu-offtopic (I think I have the name wrong)20:39
Kilosrio_zenta  superfly  is our local python expert20:39
Kilossytem76 the ubuntu peeps20:39
rio_zentaI've probably met superfly if he attends the python meetups in gauteng.20:40
Kilosno he is in ct20:40
superflynegatory, I live in the promised land.20:40
Kiloslol20:40
rio_zentado you attend the cape town meetups? superfly 20:40
superflyrio_zenta: not really. I have real life to deal with.20:40
superflyI once gave a talk there a few years ago.20:41
Kilosct was promised to penguins20:41
rio_zentaouch superfly. It took us real effort to get it going here in GP and we're seeing good numbers now20:41
superflyI saw. I'm watching. I'm super chuffed.20:42
rio_zentaWould you guys buy locally-assembled laptops with limited software support? medium to high end only ?20:42
superflyrio_zenta: I know wasbeer... uh... golly, what's his real name?20:42
rio_zentawalter?20:43
Kilosleibrand20:44
Kilosis that him20:45
rio_zentayeah, cool guy. He should be here I think.20:45
Kiloshe used to be here all the time 20:45
rio_zentaKilos, based on your estimates, about how many linux users do you think there are in SA?20:45
Kilosi think lots but most dont know about us20:46
Kilosvarsities have many nmowadays20:46
Kilosnowadays20:46
superflyYup, Walter20:47
Kilosthere are also some older peepslike bushtech and some that only come here when they got probs20:48
rio_zentahmmm, can't exactly sell a 9000 rand laptop to a varsity student...20:48
Kilosnope they are expensive20:48
Kilosand dual cores arent too good anymore. thats about all you can get cheaply20:49
rio_zentai guess i'll just bare the win tax then. If we had like over 10 000 users in SA, there'd already be someone selling them here.20:49
Kilosthere was a guy here about a year back that had a pc shop in the freestate i think that said he would sell linux pcs but he disappeared20:50
charldell sells linux preinstalled (ubuntu)20:51
charlbut i think you have to order it specifically20:51
Kilosthe good thing about a windows lappy is that you can format it and install linux20:51
superflyrio_zenta: I'm looking to buy a laptop too, and have decided to just live with the Windows tax.20:51
rio_zentacharl: I contacted them in may. They referred me to one of their suppliers, whom I never had any contact with after the referral.20:51
charlas in, you didn't contact them, or they didn't contact you back ?20:52
rio_zentasuperfly: What do you recommend? If you'd be interested, we could ship 2 system76 Gazelles here. I see the quote comes out to about $970 for a "beast".20:52
superflyrio_zenta: I don't have that sort of money, I'm just going to buy a bottom of the range toshiba20:53
rio_zentacharl: the dell sales guy told me he contacted them on my behalf. It's kind of like mustek sales, who reply to emails after 20 days.20:53
charlbah :(20:53
charlvery unprofessional20:54
rio_zentaoh my bad superfly. I assumed you were a high-end user.20:54
superflyrio_zenta: that's why I have a desktop.20:54
superflyrio_zenta: that's my "high end"20:54
superflywhich it doesn't really need to be, since I don't do anything that really requires that amount of firepower20:55
rio_zentasuperfly: What purposes do you use your machines for? 20:56
superflydevelopment20:56
rio_zentaHere is the company I am suppose to get a dell from: http://www.westech.co.za/dell20:57
rio_zentasuperfly: Are you a python dev-house?20:57
superflyuh... sortof20:57
superflywe do Python, C++, C, a little assembler and hardware20:57
rio_zentaI hope you're not the same company whose job details are being spammed the crap out of on every jobs board in SA. I see a company looking for: Python/C/C++ exp :'D20:59
rio_zentaoh, spammed by recruiters of course.20:59
superflywhat's the name of hte company?20:59
superflyI suppose they don't say, hey?20:59
rio_zentacorrect. I could provide a link to a description though.21:00
rio_zentaare you guys in stellenbosch?21:01
superflyNo, Cape Town21:02
superflyWe are kinda still looking for a developer.21:02
rio_zentado you do low-level stuff? 21:03
superflyWe do everything from the actual electronics on the board, to writing server-side Python21:04
superflytwo of the guys on the team specialise in the electronics, I specialise in the Python21:04
superflyAnother guy specialises in C++21:05
superflyso we have specialists, but everyone digs in and does what is required.21:05
rio_zentaYou're not hard to track down :P21:08
rio_zentaI best disappear for now. Getting late. See you guys again soon.21:15
Kiloswhew night peeps22:22

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