| bluesabre | Nosckaj, ochosi: pushed xfce4-power-manager to utopic-proposed, now we wait for that one | 03:36 |
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| bluesabre | Noskcaj, I might have missed if there was another comments, but for xfce4-session, there is a newer package in debian now (4.10.1-7), do you want to update your merge request to that version, or should I go ahead and do it as part of the merge? | 03:38 |
| Noskcaj | bluesabre, I forgot i uploaded that. I'll merge now | 06:44 |
| Noskcaj | New one pushed. The upower patch is slightly different, so we should have that checked after the upload | 07:03 |
| ochosi | Noskcaj: did you test it? | 07:06 |
| Noskcaj | corsac did in debian, but i will when i get home (at a friend place tonight, then cadets the next) | 07:06 |
| ochosi | just asking cause you know, it's the session, if it's broken that means pretty much everything is kinda broken | 07:06 |
| Noskcaj | of course. | 07:06 |
| Noskcaj | I don't understand code, so hopefully patch checking will be part of the review. | 07:07 |
| Noskcaj | But it if worked in debian it *should* do so here | 07:07 |
| ochosi | right, still, testing things at least a little before uploading would be highly desirable though | 07:08 |
| ochosi | if you haven't tested something, then prepare it in a PPA, ping me, i'll push it to the -staging PPA and we'll get people to test it if you can't | 07:09 |
| Noskcaj | ok. | 07:09 |
| ochosi | cause that's what we have those PPAs for ;) | 07:10 |
| Noskcaj | I completely forgot about those. It's in noskcaj/build now | 07:11 |
| ochosi | k, thanks | 07:12 |
| ochosi | btw, if i'm not around you can also ping bluesabre | 07:12 |
| Noskcaj | cool | 07:12 |
| Noskcaj | brb | 07:12 |
| elfy | bluesabre: when you setting the next meeting, it being your turn to run it :) | 07:23 |
| ochosi | folks, if any of you could please verify this sru: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+bug/1342065 | 08:48 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1342065 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "[SRU] xubuntu-default-settings 14.04.5" [Undecided,Fix committed] | 08:48 |
| ochosi | doesn't matter whether you have a laptop or not, all you have to verify is that it correctly sets the default setting | 08:49 |
| slickymasterWork | ochosi: in case you've forgotten http://xubuntu.org/?p=2548 and http://pad.ubuntu.com/AO7hLk0hFH are waiting you're review and approval | 09:43 |
| slickymasterWork | s/you're/your | 09:44 |
| ochosi | thanks slickymasterWork | 09:45 |
| ochosi | i haven't forgotten, just haven't gotten round to it | 09:45 |
| ochosi | but reminders always help ;) | 09:46 |
| slickymasterWork | ok ;) | 09:46 |
| * knome just poked the article a bit | 09:47 | |
| ochosi | slickymasterWork: that seems wrong: | 09:47 |
| ochosi | To get these icons back, replace the Notification Area applet with the Indicator Plugin applet | 09:47 |
| ochosi | those two are different things | 09:48 |
| ochosi | the first is the systray, the others are the indicators | 09:48 |
| ochosi | we always want/need both | 09:48 |
| slickymasterWork | right. can you re-write that item ochosi | 09:49 |
| slickymasterWork | you're so much more into it than me | 09:49 |
| knome | "more into it" | 09:50 |
| knome | huhu | 09:50 |
| ochosi | well actually i'm not sure anymore what i needed to do to get the indicators back | 09:51 |
| ochosi | i think uninstall the -gtk2 packages and something else | 09:51 |
| ochosi | i had hoped you had tested it and then written the paragraph | 09:51 |
| slickymasterWork | key knome | 09:51 |
| slickymasterWork | morning/afternoon | 09:51 |
| knome | good afternoon slickymasterWork | 09:52 |
| slickymasterWork | I didn't ochosi | 09:54 |
| slickymasterWork | ochosi, are you talking about this -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Trusty/Gtk3Indicators? | 09:54 |
| ochosi | no, not really | 09:57 |
| ochosi | i'm talking about having the 12.04 stack installed and then upgrading and seeing no indicators | 09:57 |
| ochosi | several things changed, the way the indicators are started etc | 09:57 |
| ochosi | but i just want the practical steps | 09:57 |
| slickymasterWork | hm hm. forestpiskie would be the one that actually made those steps when he was testing | 09:59 |
| slickymasterWork | perhaps he could throw his input on it | 09:59 |
| knome | pushed a new revision for the docs that introduces a favicon | 10:08 |
| bluesabre | Xubuntu Community Meeting scheduled for July 29, 10:00 UTC | 11:47 |
| bluesabre | elfy ^ | 11:47 |
| slickymasterWork | bluesabre: I won't be able to make it | 11:49 |
| slickymasterWork | I'll be absent between July 28 and August 17 | 11:50 |
| slickymasterWork | ochosi: ^^ | 11:52 |
| slickymasterWork | off to lunch -> | 11:57 |
| bluesabre | slickymasterWork, enjoy that nice long vacation :D | 12:00 |
| bluesabre | ochosi, Noskcaj: http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/xfce4-power-manager | 12:33 |
| bluesabre | Noskcaj: tested xfce4-session, all seems well, uploaded to utopic-proposed. | 12:51 |
| elfy | slickymasterWork: looked at the pad - changed a few bits and left a note too | 13:00 |
| Noskcaj | bluesabre, thanks | 13:16 |
| bluesabre | I'll do the other merges when the packageset is updated | 13:16 |
| bluesabre | but thanks for all the packaging :) | 13:16 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: i'm wondering what we should do about xfwm4 | 13:19 |
| ochosi | i guess wait for another devel release | 13:19 |
| ochosi | sucks a bit that the alt-tab dialog is still unreleased | 13:19 |
| ochosi | btw, i also tried to ping ppl about the x-d-s sru again, no responses so far, so you might try -release too | 13:21 |
| bluesabre | hey ochosi | 13:23 |
| bluesabre | so, what's in the queue for xfwm4? | 13:23 |
| bluesabre | we can nag Nick | 13:23 |
| ochosi | well, there are a few patches floating around that should be merged too | 13:24 |
| ochosi | i'd have preferred a separate release just with the tabwin | 13:25 |
| ochosi | but yeah, as time is progressing i'm considering we should merge more patches in | 13:25 |
| bluesabre | any of us admins for that project? (I'm not) | 13:25 |
| ochosi | i have push-rights, but i'm pretty sure i don't have admin rights | 13:26 |
| bluesabre | log in here: https://releases.xfce.org/ | 13:26 |
| bluesabre | and see if its on your list | 13:26 |
| ochosi | thing is if i start pushing patches, ppl might mistake me for a maintainer... | 13:26 |
| ochosi | humm, i can actually do releases of xfwm4 and thunar too :> | 13:27 |
| bluesabre | cool | 13:27 |
| bluesabre | yeah, I think push rights = release manager rights as well | 13:28 |
| bluesabre | 12 days since display settings merge | 13:29 |
| bluesabre | maybe I'll do a release on the 23rd for xfce4-settings | 13:29 |
| bluesabre | I don't suppose you poked Nick about that? | 13:30 |
| ochosi | i didn't, but i haven't received replies to my last few emails, so i didn't feel it would make sense | 13:31 |
| ochosi | btw, is shimmer-themes also part of the xubuntu packageset? | 13:33 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: yes | 13:43 |
| bluesabre | sent the updated package along this morning | 13:43 |
| bluesabre | I think its still sitting in utopic-proposed | 13:43 |
| * bluesabre checks | 13:43 | |
| ochosi | mkay | 13:43 |
| ochosi | we also oughta do something to lls | 13:44 |
| ochosi | after the next xfpm release | 13:44 |
| bluesabre | sitting in new https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+queue | 13:44 |
| bluesabre | yeah | 13:44 |
| bluesabre | need to decide what changes need to be made for that | 13:44 |
| ochosi | well for one, we should remove support for dpms and blank settings in case xfpm is installed | 13:46 |
| bluesabre | *and running | 13:47 |
| ochosi | right | 13:47 |
| ochosi | well yeah, depends on whether we wanna make it runtime or buildtime | 13:47 |
| bluesabre | cool, xfpm 1.3 in utopic, works like a dream | 13:47 |
| ochosi | well 1.3.1 will be even dreamier ;) | 13:48 |
| bluesabre | runtime is best | 13:48 |
| bluesabre | python app | 13:48 |
| bluesabre | :) | 13:48 |
| ochosi | yup | 13:50 |
| ochosi | well with all the hackery that app contains, that last bit won't really hurt much :) | 13:51 |
| ochosi | btw, cavalier said he's closing in on the dbus interface | 13:51 |
| slickymasterWork | thanks foe that elfy. What about the indicators item, elfy? Since you went through all the testings during T cycle, do you have any suggestions on how to rewrite it? | 13:51 |
| ochosi | so i guess we have to redo the configuration-applying part too | 13:51 |
| bluesabre | yeah | 13:52 |
| bluesabre | We should branch out based on which versions of each app are installed and running | 13:52 |
| bluesabre | I might work with you on that later this week | 13:52 |
| ochosi | yeah, or just skip older versions of light-locker | 13:52 |
| ochosi | i mean we could simply say, lls version XY supports ll >=1.6 | 13:52 |
| knome | that's fair to say. | 13:53 |
| bluesabre | ok, thats reasonable | 13:53 |
| bluesabre | and easy to control with packaging | 13:53 |
| ochosi | yup | 13:53 |
| knome | and if late enough ll is shipped in utopic with the new lls, i don't see there being a problem for ubuntu people anyway | 13:54 |
| knome | because people hardly can run debs from different releases and expect they work together with no problems | 13:54 |
| knome | (some people do, but they are mad anyway, like Unit193) | 13:54 |
| bluesabre | indeed | 13:56 |
| bluesabre | :D | 13:56 |
| bluesabre | gotta run for now, bbl | 13:57 |
| ochosi | hf in the woods, ttyl | 13:59 |
| elfy | slickymasterWork: well re indicators - I either tested a vanilla trusty, or installed a vanilla precise or saucy and tested the upgrade path - given that it was more or less just me and maybe 1 or 2 others at each milestone doing so - I didn't even notice what was going on with indicators other than maybe some missing | 14:03 |
| ochosi | i think if you do a clean upgrade they're all missing | 14:04 |
| elfy | possibly | 14:04 |
| ochosi | which was actually my main goal of writing that faq, because that's a very obvious thing that needs fixing | 14:04 |
| elfy | all I was testing was that the upgrade upgraded I'm afraid | 14:05 |
| slickymasterWork | I don't really remember it now, I just made a couple of upgrade tests | 14:05 |
| slickymasterWork | yes, like me elfy | 14:05 |
| slickymasterWork | maybe brainwash could be of help with this issue as he also did a lot of testing on the indicators | 14:06 |
| knome | is there a list of packages that are in the xubuntu packageset somewhere? | 14:06 |
| slickymasterWork | are you referring to the metapackages in Trusty knome ? | 14:10 |
| knome | no, not xubuntu-desktop and alike | 14:11 |
| slickymasterWork | mhm, okay | 14:11 |
| knome | i'm referring to the list of packages which bluesabre now has upload rights | 14:11 |
| slickymasterWork | right | 14:11 |
| knome | whether that was specific for sean or xubuntu, i think it would be useful to have it (linked) in the wiki | 14:12 |
| * slickymasterWork agrees | 14:14 | |
| * elfy thinks that's a great idea as long as it's not him doing anything with the wiki | 14:16 | |
| knome | elfy, we can surely assign that to you since you love the wiki so much | 14:16 |
| elfy | assign it to me ;) | 14:17 |
| elfy | I'll make sure to take a little bit longer to do it than some did at getting a trello id :p | 14:17 |
| slickymasterWork | ah ah ah | 14:20 |
| bluesabre | give me a place to drop said packages, and I'll update it this evening | 14:21 |
| bluesabre | s/packages/package names | 14:21 |
| bluesabre | (since they are difficult to figure out, as far as I could tell) | 14:21 |
| knome | bluesabre, you can poke them in my email | 14:22 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: any chance you could confirm the x-d-s sru quickly? | 16:48 |
| ochosi | with confirm i of course meant verify | 16:48 |
| ochosi | !team | if any of you could please help by verifying this SRU, we'd need it *now | 16:50 |
| ubottu | if any of you could please help by verifying this SRU, we'd need it *now: bluesabre, elfy, GridCube, jjfrv8, knome, lderan, micahg, mr_pouit, Noskcaj, ochosi, pleia2, skellat, slickymaster, Unit193 | 16:50 |
| ochosi | * | 16:50 |
| ochosi | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+bug/1342065 | 16:50 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1342065 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "[SRU] xubuntu-default-settings 14.04.5" [Undecided,Fix committed] | 16:50 |
| GridCube | k testing | 16:59 |
| ochosi | GridCube: you only need to enable -proposed in 14.04, then install the update of x-d-s and then create a new user | 16:59 |
| ochosi | then check whether the setting described there has changed | 16:59 |
| elfy | works here doing the new user and suspend | 17:00 |
| ochosi | cool | 17:01 |
| elfy | tagged -done | 17:01 |
| ochosi | could you then please add a comment and set it to verification-done? | 17:01 |
| ochosi | thanks! | 17:01 |
| elfy | :) | 17:01 |
| GridCube | enable trusty-proposed > update > create new user | 17:03 |
| GridCube | right? | 17:04 |
| ochosi | yup, that should be it, but it's already verified | 17:04 |
| ochosi | one person to verify it is generally enough | 17:04 |
| ochosi | you can still test it though | 17:04 |
| ochosi | but the patch is only about changing a default setting, so not much that can go wrong there ;) | 17:04 |
| GridCube | ok | 17:04 |
| GridCube | :( i havent' been able to do much this cycle | 17:05 |
| GridCube | and by much i mean anything | 17:05 |
| ochosi | yeah, don't leave poor elfy alone with qa | 17:05 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: okeydokey, got your x-d-s patch in at the last second... | 17:06 |
| GridCube | its hard to do anything when i don't understand two thirds of whats going on | 17:06 |
| ochosi | following elfy's instructions should do :p | 17:07 |
| ochosi | gotta go, dinner-time | 17:07 |
| elfy | GridCube: you don't actually think I know what's going on do you? | 17:14 |
| GridCube | better than i do | 17:15 |
| elfy | marginal at best | 17:25 |
| elfy | ochosi: sru completed and released to -updates | 17:43 |
| ochosi | yup | 18:00 |
| ochosi | one less headache for 14.04.1 | 18:05 |
| elfy | :) | 18:05 |
| elfy | can't even remember when it releases | 18:06 |
| ochosi | pretty soon, its freeze was today | 18:07 |
| elfy | just been reading -release | 18:08 |
| elfy | thursday perhaps - 24th does sound familiar | 18:08 |
| ochosi | that was the main reason for my nervous pinging before | 18:09 |
| elfy | I see that now after reading -release :p | 18:09 |
| Unit193 | knome: Nah, I generally rebuild (may grab the whole stack), I don't really just snag a package directly. ;) | 19:45 |
| knome | mmh. | 19:59 |
| Unit193 | And, nice favicon. | 20:00 |
| knome | yep | 20:10 |
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