[03:36] Nosckaj, ochosi: pushed xfce4-power-manager to utopic-proposed, now we wait for that one [03:38] Noskcaj, I might have missed if there was another comments, but for xfce4-session, there is a newer package in debian now (4.10.1-7), do you want to update your merge request to that version, or should I go ahead and do it as part of the merge? [06:44] bluesabre, I forgot i uploaded that. I'll merge now [07:03] New one pushed. The upower patch is slightly different, so we should have that checked after the upload [07:06] Noskcaj: did you test it? [07:06] corsac did in debian, but i will when i get home (at a friend place tonight, then cadets the next) [07:06] just asking cause you know, it's the session, if it's broken that means pretty much everything is kinda broken [07:06] of course. [07:07] I don't understand code, so hopefully patch checking will be part of the review. [07:07] But it if worked in debian it *should* do so here [07:08] right, still, testing things at least a little before uploading would be highly desirable though [07:09] if you haven't tested something, then prepare it in a PPA, ping me, i'll push it to the -staging PPA and we'll get people to test it if you can't [07:09] ok. [07:10] cause that's what we have those PPAs for ;) [07:11] I completely forgot about those. It's in noskcaj/build now [07:12] k, thanks [07:12] btw, if i'm not around you can also ping bluesabre [07:12] cool [07:12] brb [07:23] bluesabre: when you setting the next meeting, it being your turn to run it :) [08:48] folks, if any of you could please verify this sru: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+bug/1342065 [08:48] Ubuntu bug 1342065 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "[SRU] xubuntu-default-settings 14.04.5" [Undecided,Fix committed] [08:49] doesn't matter whether you have a laptop or not, all you have to verify is that it correctly sets the default setting [09:43] ochosi: in case you've forgotten http://xubuntu.org/?p=2548 and http://pad.ubuntu.com/AO7hLk0hFH are waiting you're review and approval [09:44] s/you're/your [09:45] thanks slickymasterWork [09:45] i haven't forgotten, just haven't gotten round to it [09:46] but reminders always help ;) [09:46] ok ;) [09:47] * knome just poked the article a bit [09:47] slickymasterWork: that seems wrong: [09:47] To get these icons back, replace the Notification Area applet with the Indicator Plugin applet [09:48] those two are different things [09:48] the first is the systray, the others are the indicators [09:48] we always want/need both [09:49] right. can you re-write that item ochosi [09:49] you're so much more into it than me [09:50] "more into it" [09:50] huhu [09:51] well actually i'm not sure anymore what i needed to do to get the indicators back [09:51] i think uninstall the -gtk2 packages and something else [09:51] i had hoped you had tested it and then written the paragraph [09:51] key knome [09:51] morning/afternoon [09:52] good afternoon slickymasterWork [09:54] I didn't ochosi [09:54] ochosi, are you talking about this -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Trusty/Gtk3Indicators? [09:57] no, not really [09:57] i'm talking about having the 12.04 stack installed and then upgrading and seeing no indicators [09:57] several things changed, the way the indicators are started etc [09:57] but i just want the practical steps [09:59] hm hm. forestpiskie would be the one that actually made those steps when he was testing [09:59] perhaps he could throw his input on it [10:08] pushed a new revision for the docs that introduces a favicon [11:47] Xubuntu Community Meeting scheduled for July 29, 10:00 UTC [11:47] elfy ^ [11:49] bluesabre: I won't be able to make it [11:50] I'll be absent between July 28 and August 17 [11:52] ochosi: ^^ [11:57] off to lunch -> [12:00] slickymasterWork, enjoy that nice long vacation :D [12:33] ochosi, Noskcaj: http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/xfce4-power-manager [12:51] Noskcaj: tested xfce4-session, all seems well, uploaded to utopic-proposed. [13:00] slickymasterWork: looked at the pad - changed a few bits and left a note too [13:16] bluesabre, thanks [13:16] I'll do the other merges when the packageset is updated [13:16] but thanks for all the packaging :) [13:19] bluesabre: i'm wondering what we should do about xfwm4 [13:19] i guess wait for another devel release [13:19] sucks a bit that the alt-tab dialog is still unreleased [13:21] btw, i also tried to ping ppl about the x-d-s sru again, no responses so far, so you might try -release too [13:23] hey ochosi [13:23] so, what's in the queue for xfwm4? [13:23] we can nag Nick [13:24] well, there are a few patches floating around that should be merged too [13:25] i'd have preferred a separate release just with the tabwin [13:25] but yeah, as time is progressing i'm considering we should merge more patches in [13:25] any of us admins for that project? (I'm not) [13:26] i have push-rights, but i'm pretty sure i don't have admin rights [13:26] log in here: https://releases.xfce.org/ [13:26] and see if its on your list [13:26] thing is if i start pushing patches, ppl might mistake me for a maintainer... [13:27] humm, i can actually do releases of xfwm4 and thunar too :> [13:27] cool [13:28] yeah, I think push rights = release manager rights as well [13:29] 12 days since display settings merge [13:29] maybe I'll do a release on the 23rd for xfce4-settings [13:30] I don't suppose you poked Nick about that? [13:31] i didn't, but i haven't received replies to my last few emails, so i didn't feel it would make sense [13:33] btw, is shimmer-themes also part of the xubuntu packageset? [13:43] ochosi: yes [13:43] sent the updated package along this morning [13:43] I think its still sitting in utopic-proposed [13:43] * bluesabre checks [13:43] mkay [13:44] we also oughta do something to lls [13:44] after the next xfpm release [13:44] sitting in new https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+queue [13:44] yeah [13:44] need to decide what changes need to be made for that [13:46] well for one, we should remove support for dpms and blank settings in case xfpm is installed [13:47] *and running [13:47] right [13:47] well yeah, depends on whether we wanna make it runtime or buildtime [13:47] cool, xfpm 1.3 in utopic, works like a dream [13:48] well 1.3.1 will be even dreamier ;) [13:48] runtime is best [13:48] python app [13:48] :) [13:50] yup [13:51] well with all the hackery that app contains, that last bit won't really hurt much :) [13:51] btw, cavalier said he's closing in on the dbus interface [13:51] thanks foe that elfy. What about the indicators item, elfy? Since you went through all the testings during T cycle, do you have any suggestions on how to rewrite it? [13:51] so i guess we have to redo the configuration-applying part too [13:52] yeah [13:52] We should branch out based on which versions of each app are installed and running [13:52] I might work with you on that later this week [13:52] yeah, or just skip older versions of light-locker [13:52] i mean we could simply say, lls version XY supports ll >=1.6 [13:53] that's fair to say. [13:53] ok, thats reasonable [13:53] and easy to control with packaging [13:53] yup [13:54] and if late enough ll is shipped in utopic with the new lls, i don't see there being a problem for ubuntu people anyway [13:54] because people hardly can run debs from different releases and expect they work together with no problems [13:54] (some people do, but they are mad anyway, like Unit193) [13:56] indeed [13:56] :D [13:57] gotta run for now, bbl [13:59] hf in the woods, ttyl [14:03] slickymasterWork: well re indicators - I either tested a vanilla trusty, or installed a vanilla precise or saucy and tested the upgrade path - given that it was more or less just me and maybe 1 or 2 others at each milestone doing so - I didn't even notice what was going on with indicators other than maybe some missing [14:04] i think if you do a clean upgrade they're all missing [14:04] possibly [14:04] which was actually my main goal of writing that faq, because that's a very obvious thing that needs fixing [14:05] all I was testing was that the upgrade upgraded I'm afraid [14:05] I don't really remember it now, I just made a couple of upgrade tests [14:05] yes, like me elfy [14:06] maybe brainwash could be of help with this issue as he also did a lot of testing on the indicators [14:06] is there a list of packages that are in the xubuntu packageset somewhere? [14:10] are you referring to the metapackages in Trusty knome ? [14:11] no, not xubuntu-desktop and alike [14:11] mhm, okay [14:11] i'm referring to the list of packages which bluesabre now has upload rights [14:11] right [14:12] whether that was specific for sean or xubuntu, i think it would be useful to have it (linked) in the wiki [14:14] * slickymasterWork agrees [14:16] * elfy thinks that's a great idea as long as it's not him doing anything with the wiki [14:16] elfy, we can surely assign that to you since you love the wiki so much [14:17] assign it to me ;) [14:17] I'll make sure to take a little bit longer to do it than some did at getting a trello id :p [14:20] ah ah ah [14:21] give me a place to drop said packages, and I'll update it this evening [14:21] s/packages/package names [14:21] (since they are difficult to figure out, as far as I could tell) [14:22] bluesabre, you can poke them in my email [16:48] bluesabre: any chance you could confirm the x-d-s sru quickly? [16:48] with confirm i of course meant verify [16:50] !team | if any of you could please help by verifying this SRU, we'd need it *now [16:50] if any of you could please help by verifying this SRU, we'd need it *now: bluesabre, elfy, GridCube, jjfrv8, knome, lderan, micahg, mr_pouit, Noskcaj, ochosi, pleia2, skellat, slickymaster, Unit193 [16:50] * [16:50] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+bug/1342065 [16:50] Ubuntu bug 1342065 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "[SRU] xubuntu-default-settings 14.04.5" [Undecided,Fix committed] [16:59] k testing [16:59] GridCube: you only need to enable -proposed in 14.04, then install the update of x-d-s and then create a new user [16:59] then check whether the setting described there has changed [17:00] works here doing the new user and suspend [17:01] cool [17:01] tagged -done [17:01] could you then please add a comment and set it to verification-done? [17:01] thanks! [17:01] :) [17:03] enable trusty-proposed > update > create new user [17:04] right? [17:04] yup, that should be it, but it's already verified [17:04] one person to verify it is generally enough [17:04] you can still test it though [17:04] but the patch is only about changing a default setting, so not much that can go wrong there ;) [17:04] ok [17:05] :( i havent' been able to do much this cycle [17:05] and by much i mean anything [17:05] yeah, don't leave poor elfy alone with qa [17:06] bluesabre: okeydokey, got your x-d-s patch in at the last second... [17:06] its hard to do anything when i don't understand two thirds of whats going on [17:07] following elfy's instructions should do :p [17:07] gotta go, dinner-time [17:14] GridCube: you don't actually think I know what's going on do you? [17:15] better than i do [17:25] marginal at best [17:43] ochosi: sru completed and released to -updates [18:00] yup [18:05] one less headache for 14.04.1 [18:05] :) [18:06] can't even remember when it releases [18:07] pretty soon, its freeze was today [18:08] just been reading -release [18:08] thursday perhaps - 24th does sound familiar [18:09] that was the main reason for my nervous pinging before [18:09] I see that now after reading -release :p [19:45] knome: Nah, I generally rebuild (may grab the whole stack), I don't really just snag a package directly. ;) [19:59] mmh. [20:00] And, nice favicon. [20:10] yep