[01:06] <valorie> Roey: I saw your link, yes
[01:07] <valorie> I'm not going to pass the news along to my husband who already hates all stinging insects, though
[01:08] <valorie> my brother-in-law's sister-in-law died of a bee sting
[01:28] <Roey> valorie:  I'm sorry to hear that :(
[01:29] <valorie> life can get tragic at times
[01:29] <valorie> this past weeks seems full of that
[01:29] <valorie> off-topic for this chan though
[02:12] <Matombo> anyone also have a problem with alt-gr key (german keyboard) when using kubuntu in virtual box?
[03:03] <IllSpentYouth> hello.  i'm having a problem with kubuntu not recognizing my onboard sound, a realtek alc889.  is there anyone who can lead me in the right direction to a solution?
[07:10] <zxsinclair_> I am trying to test Neon/KDE5 on a Trusty installation but get problems with installing "neon-base". Anyone managed this?
[07:10] <zxsinclair_> To clarify: I get dependency-hell issues
[07:11] <alket> zxsinclair_: what depency issues , could you post the logs ?
[07:12] <zxsinclair_> ome packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[07:12] <zxsinclair_> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[07:12] <zxsinclair_> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[07:12] <zxsinclair_> or been moved out of Incoming.
[07:12] <zxsinclair_> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[07:12] <zxsinclair_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:12] <zxsinclair_>  project-neon-base : Depends: project-neon-bluedevil but it is not installable
[07:12] <zxsinclair_>                      Depends: project-neon-kate but it is not going to be installed
[07:12] <zxsinclair_>                      Depends: project-neon-kde-base-artwork but it is not installable
[07:12] <zxsinclair_>                      Depends: project-neon-kde-baseapps but it is not installable
[07:12] <zxsinclair_>                      Depends: project-neon-kde-wallpapers but it is not installable
[07:13] <zxsinclair_>                      Depends: project-neon-kdeplasma-addons but it is not installable
[07:13] <zxsinclair_>                      Depends: project-neon-kmix but it is not installable
[07:13] <zxsinclair_>                      Depends: project-neon-konsole but it is not installable
[07:13] <zxsinclair_>                      Depends: project-neon-kwallet but it is not installable
[07:13] <alket> zxsinclair_: please use http://paste.kde.org
[07:13] <zxsinclair_>                      Depends: project-neon-minimal but it is not going to be installed
[07:13] <zxsinclair_>                      Depends: project-neon-networkmanagement but it is not installable
[07:13] <zxsinclair_> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[07:13] <zxsinclair_> sorry for extreme long postings...
[07:13] <zxsinclair_> ok hold on
[07:14] <zxsinclair_> http://paste.kde.org/pym7cpgw0
[07:14] <zxsinclair_> I can start a session but I get several errormessages
[07:15] <alket> zxsinclair_: I get them too , because its still new
[07:15] <alket> zxsinclair_: could you try this in terminal "sudo apt-get autoclean"
[07:15] <alket> then do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[07:15] <zxsinclair_> OK am on it
[07:16] <zxsinclair_> and thanks
[07:16] <ikonia> the error seems pretty clear
[07:16] <ikonia> "packages not yet created2
[07:17] <zxsinclair_> the autoclean deleted a bunch of packages
[07:17] <joker_>  /links
[07:17] <joker_> hi all
[07:17] <zxsinclair_> but I still get stuck on trying to install neon-base...
[07:18] <ikonia> zxsinclair_: do the packages exist
[07:18] <zxsinclair_> have no idea, I just follow the instructions on project neon website ;-)
[07:18] <zxsinclair_> or trying to rather
[07:19] <zxsinclair_> for starters I don't want bluedevil as my computer does not have bluetooth..
[07:20] <zxsinclair_> https://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Using_Project_Neon_to_contribute_to_KDE
[07:21] <joker_> i just started with this so i see ubuntu chat room and there was link to kubuntu chat is there easy newbie friendly way do add lot of chat rooms
[07:21] <ikonia> zxsinclair_: so checking if the packages are there would be a good start
[07:22] <zxsinclair_> +ikonia to put it this way I find it a bit strange to be asked to test something and the instructions on the website do not wok
[07:22] <zxsinclair_> work
[07:23] <ikonia> zxsinclair_: not really, it's in development, things change
[07:23] <ikonia> zxsinclair_: I find it more odd that you're just blindly following something without checking anything when you hit an error
[07:23] <zxsinclair_> am trying here, not an expert on apt
[07:24] <ikonia> don't have to be
[07:24] <ikonia> actually go to the PPA and check the packages
[07:24] <ikonia> make sure they are there
[07:24] <ikonia> zxsinclair_: also, do you have any other 3rd party repos or PPA's on your system
[07:24] <zxsinclair_> yes I do
[07:25] <ikonia> ok, so that may also be causing conflict
[07:25] <ikonia> that's a very very common situation
[07:25] <joker_> hello world
[07:25] <valorie> zxsinclair_: also, there is #project-neon for just this sort of question
[07:26] <zxsinclair_> ikonia or others; are you successful in using neon? And thanks for the link I was not aware
[07:26] <ikonia> I don't use kde
[07:26] <ikonia> zxsinclair_: again - I'd not focus on what others are doing - I'd focus on your problem
[07:27] <ikonia> zxsinclair_: eg: you have other PPA's that may cause a conflict, so what does it matter if others can use it, you can't at th emoment
[07:29] <zxsinclair_> ikonia - thanks for the input and assistance
[07:29] <zxsinclair_> I will head to neon channel
[07:36] <DKChewy> Hi. Noob to Linux. Just installed Kubuntu 14.04 and am having the issue where screen doesn't turn on after coming back from suspend. Every article I find is either significantly out of date or assumes I know Linux inside and out. Can anybody lead me in the right direction?
[07:50] <DKChewy> Any advice from anyone concerning the black screen after coming out of suspend?
[07:51] <valorie> !info libavcoded53
[07:51] <valorie> !info libavcoded54
[07:51] <valorie> um
[07:52] <valorie> !info libavcode
[07:52] <valorie> forget I asked
[07:52] <FuzzyWhirlpool> !info libavcodec54 | valorie
[07:53] <valorie> aha, he misspelled it
[07:53] <valorie> thanks, FuzzyWhirlpool
[07:53] <FuzzyWhirlpool> Yeah, you should ask `apt-cache search` before asking ubottu.
[07:56] <valorie> I often do that indeed
[08:04] <geartrek> jubuntu linux dosn't want to install as a base os on a acer laptop
[08:04] <geartrek> grrr
[08:04] <geartrek> kubuntu
[08:06] <valorie> "doesn't want to install"?
[08:06] <FuzzyWhirlpool> What is your laptop version?
[10:42] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:18] <ArunC> Hi all, I am trying to add the kubuntu-ppa/next repository on my kubuntu 14.04. But I get an error saying PPA not found
[11:18] <ArunC> Any idea what might be wrong?
[11:24] <BluesKaj> ArunC, how are you adding the ppa?
[11:25] <ArunC> BluesKaj: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next
[11:26] <BluesKaj> ArunC, you need to add the ppa key first
[11:27] <ArunC> BluesKaj, I followed this link: http://www.webupd8.org/2014/07/how-to-install-plasma-5-in-kubuntu-1410.html
[11:27] <BluesKaj> ArunC, find the key on the launchpad ppa page, then do, sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys xxxxxx
[11:28] <ArunC> BluesKaj, sure, let me try that.. thanks.
[11:29] <BluesKaj> ArunC, https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next
[11:30] <BluesKaj> ArunC, click on the "technical destails about this ppa"
[11:31] <ArunC> BluesKaj, thanks.
[11:33] <BluesKaj> ArunC, my mistake , make sure you use this instead, https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[11:34] <BluesKaj> the prvbious ppa was for Utopic not Trusty
[11:35] <ArunC> BluesKaj, I updated my ubuntu to 14.10.. but still lsb_release -a shows 14.04
[11:35] <ArunC> which one shall I use?
[11:37] <BluesKaj> ArunC, how did you upgrade to 14.10?
[11:37] <ArunC> BlueKajs, my bad.. I'm on LTS.. forget my previous msg
[11:39] <ArunC> BluesKaj, should I use "1024R/8AC93F7A" as the key? There is a Fingerprint, should I use that as the key?
[11:39] <BluesKaj> ArunC,, no just the numbers after the /
[11:39] <BluesKaj> 8AC93F7A
[11:40] <ArunC> BluesKaj, Oh OK, thanks. I will try that.
[11:46] <ArunC> BluesKaj, I am behind a proxy and I get "?: keyserver.ubuntu.com: No route to host".
[11:46] <ArunC> Any idea?
[11:48] <BluesKaj> most proxies throttle bandwidth, you need a more direct connection to the repos servers if possible
[11:48] <ArunC> I get my updates and upgrades without any problem
[11:48] <BluesKaj> the ppa server
[11:49] <BluesKaj> keyserver
[11:52] <ArunC> BluesKaj, I'm sorry, I din't understand.
[11:54] <ArunC> Got it.. I had to supply sudo -E
[11:55] <ArunC> to instruct sudo to use my env variables.
[11:57] <BluesKaj> could be interpreting the keyserver as https which most proxies can't  handle
[12:00] <ArunC> I was using sudo apt-key <stuff>. I changed it to sudo -E apt-key <stuff> and it worked
[12:07] <BluesKaj> ArunC, is that some special command for use with proxy connections , never heard of sudo -E
[12:07] <BluesKaj> but I'm
[12:08] <BluesKaj> a home user
[12:10] <ArunC> BluesKaj, the proxy is set via env variables http_proxy and https_proxy. So when you do a sudo, these env variables will be ignored. To make sudo get the env, we need to pass the -E switch
[12:11] <ArunC> BTW, I get "E: Unable to locate package kubuntu-plasma5-desktop"
[12:11] <ArunC> Let me reboot my box and try it again.
[12:18] <ArunC> No change after the reboot as well.
[12:18] <BluesKaj> ArunC, run update and upgrade
[12:18] <BluesKaj> always update after adding repos
[12:19] <ArunC> BluesKaj, I did it before the reboot. Still no luck.
[12:19] <ArunC> I tried it just now after reboot. Now there is nothing to be upgraded.
[12:19] <ArunC> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[12:19] <BluesKaj> check your sources.list, make sure the ppa was added
[12:19] <ArunC> OK.
[12:20] <ArunC> Let me check that
[12:21] <ArunC> No, it is not added there. In fact, I ran this entire command.
[12:21] <ArunC> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-plasma5-desktop plasma-workspace-wallpapers
[12:22] <ArunC> It asked this:  Kubuntu Next  KDE Frameworks 5 and Plasma Next and Unicorns  More info: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next Press [ENTER] to continue or ctrl-c to cancel adding it
[12:22] <ArunC> Doing the same command part by part now.. let me see..
[12:23] <BluesKaj> ArunC, use separate commands for updating and installing ,...it's much safer
[12:23] <ArunC> oh ok..
[12:25] <ArunC> BluesKaj, Even after apt-add-repository, I don't see the next PPA in /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:26] <ArunC> Should I check sources.list somewhere else?
[12:28] <BluesKaj> ArunC, you may have the syntax incorrect in the add-apt-repository, copy and paste the debs into the sources.list and update, it's easier
[12:29] <ArunC> BluesKaj, Oh, OK. Let me try that instead.
[12:29] <BluesKaj> besides you have apt-add, it;s add-apt
[12:30] <ArunC> yeah, sorry, that was just a typo on the channel.. here is the output: http://paste.kde.org/phijaamzs
[12:31] <BluesKaj> no need to run as root btw, sudo is sufficient
[12:34] <BluesKaj> ArunC, you still have the command incorrect, it's add-apt , not apt-add
[12:35] <ArunC> Oh! yyp error from the website where I saw the post how to install plasma next..
[12:35] <ArunC> they have it wrong there as well.
[12:37] <BluesKaj> I usually just copy and paste the deb to the sources.list and update
[12:40] <ArunC> Blueskaj, just found that apt-add-repository is just a soft link to add-apt-repository ;)
[12:41] <BluesKaj> well, it's best to use the hard link :)
[12:41] <ArunC> :)
[12:41] <ArunC> BluesKaj, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-plasma5-desktop plasma-workspace-wallpapers still returns nothing.
[12:42] <ArunC> I have added the ppa deb in my sources.list and ran update and upgrade as well.
[12:43] <BluesKaj> ArunC, it won't install plasma5 wallpapers , the there's no link yet
[12:43] <BluesKaj> the link is broken rather
[12:43] <ArunC> Oh.. OK.. How can I install plasma5 desktop?
[12:43] <BluesKaj> try adding themes thru the gui, they don't work either
[12:44] <BluesKaj> apt-get install kubuntu-plasma5-desktop
[12:44] <ArunC> thanks, let me try that
[12:45] <ArunC> unable to locate package
[12:45] <ArunC> BluesKaj, apt-cache search plasma5 did not return anything
[12:45] <BluesKaj> did you update after adding the ppa?
[12:46] <ArunC> Yeah, I did.
[12:47] <BluesKaj> you said you upgraded, that doesn't update the packages
[12:47] <ArunC> As I said, I added the deb myself into sources.list and then I ran update and upgrade.
[12:47] <ArunC> No, I did both.
[12:48] <BluesKaj> ArunC, pastebin you source.list...let's ahve a look
[12:48] <BluesKaj> have
[12:48] <ArunC> OK sure.
[12:49] <ArunC> BluesKaj, http://paste.kde.org/p1zkbukes
[12:54] <ArunC> BluesKaj, I think we should add-apt-repository ppa:neon/kf5
[12:54] <ArunC> as plasma next is not available for 14.04
[12:55] <ArunC> I am not sure though
[12:58] <ArunC> BluesKaj, yes that did the trick.
[12:58] <ArunC> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:neon/kf5
[12:58] <ArunC> sudo apt-get update
[12:58] <ArunC> sudo apt-get install project-neon5-session project-neon5-utils project-neon5-konsole project-neon5-breeze project-neon5-plasma-workspace-wallpapers
[13:01] <BluesKaj> hmm, ok the ppas for 14.04 are different than last week . I wa sure there was a kubuntu next" ppa for 14.04 ...guess i was mistaken ...I dropped plasma 5 on 14,10 ...too unstable and there missing packages and links
[13:02] <ArunC> Oh!
[13:03] <ArunC> BluesKaj, should I install it on my work desktop?
[13:03] <BluesKaj> might work better o0n 14.04, dunno for sure,...you might ask in #kubuntu-devel
[13:03] <BluesKaj> ArunC,^
[13:04] <ArunC> BluesKaj, I use KDE as my primary desktop, so I hope install kf5 and related neon stuff doesn't remove the earlier version
[13:04] <ArunC> thanks..
[13:04] <BluesKaj> ArunC, not on a work desktop , absolutely not !
[13:05] <ArunC> BluesKaj, m.. OK.. long way to go probably..
[13:05] <BluesKaj> kf5 /plasma5 aren't ready for the workplace, ArunC
[13:06] <BluesKaj> remove the neon5 ppa and update, that's my advice to you
[13:07] <BluesKaj> i thought you were a home user/experimenter/tester like me, ArunC
[13:07] <ArunC> :)
[13:08] <ArunC> BluesKaj, Thanks for your kind support.
[13:08] <BluesKaj> I'm glad the ppa mucked up..it saved you a lot of grief
[13:10] <ArunC> BluesKaj, sure yeah.. if you haven't told me that, by now I would've lost my working desktop :)
[13:10] <ArunC> Thanks for all the help
[13:10] <ArunC> Signing off now. Catch you sometime later.
[13:10] <BluesKaj> ok ArunC , good luck :)
[14:14] <quintoc> hola
[14:15] <genii> !es
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[14:16] <genii> rodolfojcj: The bot will wait a little while before responding to the same request twice in a row
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[14:32] <TBotNik> All: Using Kubuntu 12.04 LTS and FireFox, but now Google has an embedded script, forcing me through their servers, instead of rendering a page directly, so getting 404, 403 and other errors when entering normal URLs.  How do I turn this #$%#@ thing off, so I browse normally?
[14:40] <TBotNik> All: Repeating: Using Kubuntu 12.04 LTS and FireFox, but now Google has an embedded script, forcing me through their servers, instead of rendering a page directly, so getting 404, 403 and other errors when entering normal URLs.  How do I turn this #$%#@ thing off, so I browse normally?
[14:40] <BluesKaj> TBotNik, using google dns ?
[14:41] <TBotNik> BluesKaj: Not sure let me check!
[14:46] <BluesKaj> TBotNik, or this https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/951962
[14:51] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[14:56] <TBotNik> BluesKaj: Nothing in /etc/networking/interfaces that indicates any outside DNS.  Checking out the HOWTO at:  https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/server-not-found-connection-problem?redirectlocale=en-US&redirectslug=Server+not+found  I found that something had reset my proxy to "System Proxy", where I had always had "No Proxy" set before.  Restarted FF and now getting "Error 1001 Ray ID: 14e07877c45a0926  DNS resolution error" so something still wrong with
[14:56] <TBotNik>  the DNS
[14:56] <TBotNik>   
[14:58] <BluesKaj> TBotNik, do you have optional dns settings on your router/modem ? ... if so i use the OpenDNS IPs  and they work well, try them
[15:09] <menace> 1
[16:25] <TBotNik> BluesKaj: Hey was down for a while as the /etc/network/interfaces file needed some major rework after removing that "System Proxy" setting Google had forced on me.  Yup had to set static IP for my network and then finally added the dns-nameservers 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220 line in the interfaces file and restarted with "ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0" and now I'm back without all the redirect crap.  Thanks!
[16:26] <TBotNik> BluesKaj: I think my router may have picked up the Google DNS, but google is also very tricky with all their analytics and keytracker java viruses they put on your box, so have to be on guard against them all the time
[16:27] <TBotNik> !
[16:58] <BluesKaj> TBotNik, glad to hear that:)
[17:04] <sithlord48> can anyone tell me why i can't access https://www.kubuntuforums.net/
[17:04] <sithlord48> i get a 503 error.. works fine @ home..
[17:09] <BluesKaj> sithlord48, using a proxy or vpn ?
[17:10] <sithlord48> no
[17:10] <BluesKaj> google dns ?
[17:10] <sithlord48> as far as i know directly thru my isp's dns
[17:11] <BluesKaj> I'm using Opendns and a vpn and the url opens fine here
[17:12] <BluesKaj> https://www.kubuntuforums.net/content.php
[17:13] <sithlord48> i can access that page . as soon as i log in i get the same 503
[17:14] <lordievader> sithlord48: HTTP 5xx codes you can not do anything about, they are server codes.
[17:14] <lordievader> 503 means service unavailable.
[17:14] <sithlord48> why does the server hate me  ???
[17:15] <BluesKaj> which browser sithlord48 ?
[17:16] <sithlord48> qupzilla but it does not work in firefox or chromium here either
[17:16] <BluesKaj> FF is having probs with some https sites
[17:16] <BluesKaj> odd, FF works here
[17:17] <sithlord48> works fine @ my house.. same browser.. same isp..
[17:17] <sithlord48> did i get my ip black listed some how?
[17:17] <BluesKaj> same laptop?
[17:18] <sithlord48> different machine almost the same hw/sw set up
[17:33] <TBotNik> BluesKaj: Thanks Again!
[17:33] <TBotNik> All: Gone! Bye!
[20:09] <mefisto_> in ktorrent download list, what does it mean when a torrent is in bold text?
[20:44] <master4> bonjour
[22:15] <skinux> What exactly does KTimeTracker's auto timing functionality do? Listen for activity/focus of applications and time changes of focus??
[23:19] <timmy_tofu> When Ubuntu 14.04.1 is released on Thursday, will the downloads on the Kubuntu download page (ftp and torrent) be changed to a new version, or will they remain the same and new installs are just expected to update as existing installs?