[04:16] <Jeffrey_f> Question on becoming an op: I believe that I have fulfilled the requirements, it seems there is a waiting list since april.  Is this common?
[08:58] <k1l> ikonia: i was about to mute him because i could not make any sense in what he was on about anyway
[08:58] <ikonia> I know
[08:59] <ikonia> you beat me by nano-seconds
[08:59] <ikonia> and shock horror he's now found ##windows and is asking his questions in there as he should have done
[08:59] <k1l> (talking about subcool. but i muted the linux nick guy how was just nonsense too)
[08:59] <ikonia> so your kick worked
[08:59] <ikonia> I was talking about subcool
[08:59] <ikonia> I didn't see the linux guy
[09:00] <k1l> <linux> gfdhfdgh
[09:00] <ikonia> missed it
=== nik0 is now known as niko
[09:42] <k1l> DJones: *!hgl*@*$##fix_your_connection doesnt match !~hgl
[17:05] <sprung> Hi, i was muted about a week ago because an op and I weren't getting along in #ubuntu. can I get unmuted por favor? i'll be following the channel rules.
[17:05] <phunyguy> do you know why you were muted?
[17:06] <sprung> yeah, i lost my cool and said some things that weren't very nice. i don't remember which op did it to me.
[17:07] <sprung> i am guilty as charged but learned my lesson and it won't happen again if i'm unmuted.
[17:07] <phunyguy> ok, hang tight while I figure this out
[17:07] <ikonia> it was me
[17:07] <ikonia> he basically made up stuff, was rude, then when I asked him to stop sent me a load of abuse in pm
[17:07] <sprung> all of that is true.
[17:08] <phunyguy> are you actually muted in there?
[17:08] <ikonia> yes
[17:08] <ikonia> he's muted
[17:08] <sprung> i believe so yes, "cannot send to channel" and am a registered user
[17:09] <phunyguy> hmm, ok.
[17:09] <phunyguy> let me look again
[17:09] <ikonia> phunyguy: 63121
[17:09] <phunyguy> ahh yes I see it
[17:09] <bazhang> %*!*@204.137.29.243
[17:10] <phunyguy> ikonia: would you like me to remove it?
[17:10] <ikonia> to be honest, I'm not happy because the guys just made stuff up here
[17:10] <phunyguy> or you can... your call I guess
[17:10] <sprung> ikonia, i apologize.
[17:10] <ikonia> "an op and I where not getting along"
[17:10] <ikonia> you mean you joined the channel was rude and then was rude again in pm
[17:11] <sprung> well, we weren't. i was openly rude and hostile towards you.
[17:11] <sprung> i'm not denying anything.
[17:11] <sprung> i will say it won't happen again.
[17:11] <sprung> if you unmute me anyway
[17:11] <ikonia> phunyguy: I'm not interested in this guy - it's up to you
[17:11] <phunyguy> wait, I don't much like ultimatums.
[17:11] <phunyguy> "if you unmute me anyway"
[17:12] <phunyguy> what does that mean?
[17:12] <ikonia> I think that was just poor wording
[17:12] <ikonia> I don't think he meant that as an ultimatium
[17:12] <phunyguy> oh ok
[17:12] <ikonia> more if you give me a chance it won't be a problem
[17:12] <phunyguy> (still sounds bad )
[17:12] <phunyguy> lol
[17:12] <ikonia> just poor wording, nothing more
[17:12] <phunyguy> I guess
[17:12] <ikonia> got to give someone a chance to prove themselves
[17:12] <sprung> obviously it won't happen again if you don't unmute me,  but if you do unmute me i will obey channel rules and not be rude like i was.
[17:13] <sprung> that's all i meant. no ultimatums.
[17:13] <ikonia> can't ask for a more honest response than that
[17:13] <phunyguy> yeah
[17:13] <phunyguy> alright I will remove the mute.  Please don't make me regret doing it.
[17:13] <sprung> thanks.
[17:14] <phunyguy> should be all set.  please /part the channel if you have nothing else.
[19:03] <bazhang> :|
[19:04] <rww> |:
[19:05] <bazhang> extensive rambling about webmin is "on topic"
[19:06] <DJones> UNless saying that webmin isn't supported, then no
[19:06] <rww> !search webmin
[19:06] <ubottu> Found: webmin
[19:06] <rww> oh good
[19:06] <rww> !webmin
[19:06] <ubottu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system.
[19:06] <rww> yay
[19:06] <bazhang> that convo ended long ago
[19:06] <rww> webmin is teh sux :c
[19:08] <DJones> But....awww.... I was going to install it
[19:08] <DJones> In a other life & timezone
[19:10] <bazhang> <KiCKiN> are you an op on #ubuntu?  <--- from PM
[19:13] <rww> i think i've spent more time arguing with swap "optimization" people than everyone ever has saved by optimizing swap
[19:14] <k1l> rww: :)
[19:14] <bazhang> "using linux since 1991"
[19:14] <bazhang> rly?
[19:14] <Pici> 200 KiB!
[19:15] <k1l> bazhang: so he helped linus developing it?
[19:15] <bazhang> and he cannot figure out some basic issue like he was?
[19:15] <k1l> or maybe he told linus how to do it properly
[19:15] <bazhang> k1l, haha
[19:16] <bazhang> "been helping on efnet with linux since 1991"
[19:16] <k1l> (linus started in 91 with linux. so i doubt anyone can claim it used it since then. 92 was it put under the gpl. it was prop first)
[19:17] <bazhang> his whole issue was fishy, as were the things he said in PM
[19:18] <DJones> Also seems irrelevant that Ubuntu wasn't availablein 1991
[19:18] <bazhang> heh
[19:19] <bazhang> he must have written his own drivers for the server the ircd was on before breakfast
[19:31] <k1l_> knome: pm?
[19:41] <rww> 19:40:42 -!- Bot_EclIRC [~Bot_EclIR@177-131-122-186.acessoline.net.br] has joined #ubuntu
[19:41] <DJones> !test1test
[19:42] <DJones> Didn't respond to !test
[19:42] <rww> yeah, I'm poking at it now trying to figure it out
[19:52] <k1l_> @mark #ubuntu modemmff channel spam
[19:52] <ubottu> The operation succeeded.
[20:07] <k1l_> epicnah: hi
[20:14] <epicnah> hi
[20:14] <epicnah> are you one of the OP freenode?
[20:15] <k1l_> epicnah: for freenode staff better ask in #freenode
[20:15] <ikonia> worth noting 14.04.1 appears to have hit the repos now
[20:16] <bazhang> nice
[20:16] <ikonia> what a waste of time having a schedule
[20:16] <epicnah> ty :)
[20:16] <bazhang> well, one day
[20:17] <k1l_> ikonia: no. maybe they got the proposed repos on?
[20:17] <ikonia> doesn't look like it
[20:17] <ikonia> just looked at the repos via http
[20:17] <ikonia> package versions seem to tie in
[20:17] <Pici> ikonia: they're supposedly RCing them..
[20:18] <ikonia> what in main ?
[20:20] <Pici> hmm
[20:22] <knome> k1l_, yes?
[20:28] <Pici> ikonia: I'm asking the release people about it.
[20:28] <Pici> I only have like 5 packages ready to upgrade on my 14.04 server, but base-files is indeed one of them.
[20:29]  * ikonia passes the release team toilet paper
[20:29] <ikonia> I assume they may need help wiping their bottomg
[20:29] <ikonia> bottoms
[20:32] <Pici> ikonia: looks like it is needed to properly build the ISOs for testing.  Doesn't look like anything else is being changed yet though.
[20:32] <ikonia> Pici: well 2 guys have reported their system is now showing 14.04.1
[20:32] <Pici> ikonia: mine too now.
[20:32] <ikonia> and to be honest - should that have been released to the main repo to build an ISO - no it shouldn't
[20:32] <Pici> Its not in main, it is in updates.
[20:33] <ikonia> yeah - but that feeds main
[20:33] <ikonia> eg: it's main packages
[20:33] <Pici> er, right.
[20:33] <Pici> and I don't think it makes sense, but maybe I just don't fully understand the Ubuntu build process.
[20:33] <ikonia> sorry bad wording
[20:33] <Pici> i.e. I'm just the messenger
[20:33] <ikonia> of course
[20:33] <ikonia> hence why I'm not shooting you
[20:33] <Pici> okay ;)
[20:33] <ikonia> just another sloppy bit of work
[20:34] <Pici> ikonia: Anyway, they said that they've done this 4 times for 12.04 already. I guess we didn't notice that either.
[20:35] <ikonia> seems odd
[20:37] <k1l_> base-files is to update on my 14.04 that makes the 14.04 to 14.04.1
[20:37] <Pici> yes