[01:24] <prgCoder> hi guys, is there any way to disable / postphone the messages to upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04  - need samba sorted out before I upgrade...
[02:22] <ruben23> hi guys any help - i tried autofs and set the config for the auto mount of an smb share from an samba server - but when i restart and commited the config nothing happens nothing is ever mounted - any idea..?
[06:05] <pds> is a dhcp range necessary for pxe boot or is pointing to pxelinux.0 sufficient?
[06:06] <sarnold> pds: I was under the impression that pxebooting always required dhcp/bootp
[06:06] <sarnold> pds: but I've never tried not setting a range :)
[06:07] <maxb> The machine needs an IP to download the pxelinux.0 ....
[06:07] <Abhijit> pds, it is
[06:10] <maxb> Well, I suppose you could do without a range if you gave each machine a fixed allocation
[06:13] <pds> i'm trying to prompt the user to do the netwerkconfig during installation, i tried d-i netcfg/disable_autoconfig boolean true but then you probably setting up for static configuration in preseeding file itself
[06:15] <jotterbot1234> hey guys, I need apache on ubuntu server to accept large php file uploads
[06:16] <pds> edit the php.ini file
[06:16] <jotterbot1234> i have an .htaccess file in my dir with contents: http://pastebin.com/KV2ggynm
[06:16] <jotterbot1234> can i not override the php.ini settings with the .htaccess?
[06:17] <pds> don't know about that i always use the .php ini file for that
[06:17] <pds> cfr. http://www.sitepoint.com/upload-large-files-in-php/
[06:17] <jotterbot1234> pds: thanks will have a look
[06:17] <pds> google :)
[06:18] <pds> any way what setting whould i have to do in the preseed file to ask for network config during install
[06:19] <pds> can't seem to find anything usefull in http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/example-preseed.txt
[06:19] <jotterbot1234> pds: I was turning to here *after* googling :) haha it usually doesn't fail me
[06:20] <pds> jotterbot1234: literally googled php upload large files
[06:21] <pds> this may be even a better link: http://forum.owncloud.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1809
[07:34] <YamakasY> what do I need to add to my apt sources when I want to have the net installer available ?
[07:37] <ogra_> can you re-phrase that somehow ?
[07:38] <ogra_> (usually you would download the net installer to install .... instead of the iso ... and the installer comes with a pre-defined sources.list setup)
[07:40] <ogra_> i.e. you either use the mini.iso or the single PXE files for a netboot/netinst install http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/
[08:04] <pds> test
[08:05] <Abhijit> fail
[08:07] <YamakasY> what is the difference between debian-installer and installer-amd64 ?
[08:07] <YamakasY> ogra_: oh ping me next time :)
[08:08] <YamakasY> ogra_: I use now debian-installer which doesn't give me the right packages
[08:09] <pds> debian installer is probably 32 bit and installer-amd64 - 64 bit, just an educated guess
[08:09] <pds> any way anyone around here using otrs
[08:09] <ogra_> erm, no
[08:10] <ogra_> there is no "debian-installer" binary package (well, there is one that contans some docs but nothing else afaik)
[08:10] <ogra_> the files at the url above are essentially the output of a debian-installer build
[08:11] <ogra_> (if you go one level up there are also the boot files for the isos and so on)
[08:12] <YamakasY> ogra_: yes but what do I need to sync my mirror with, most people have debian-installer in their apt kist, which is not going to work
[08:12] <ogra_> i dont get what youz are asking ... there is no debian-installer package you can use for anything but building the above installer files
[08:12] <YamakasY> I'm always struggeling with mirrors
[08:13] <YamakasY> ogra_: I need the initrd.gz packages and so on synced into my mirror
[08:13] <ogra_> do you mean the default sources.list is wrong when you try to run an install ?
[08:13] <ogra_> aha !
[08:13] <ogra_> now it starts to make sense :)
[08:14] <YamakasY> ogra_: haha :)
[08:14] <jonascj> On 14.04 I've just done update-grub and it takes like 5 minutes where it just spams messages from libudev. Is that to be expected?
[08:15] <YamakasY> ogra_: I have a mirror of 147GB but no initrd.gz :)
[08:15] <ogra_> i think you need to explicitly tell debmirror (or whatever you use) to specifically sync the installer files
[08:15] <bekks> YamakasY: the initrd is compiled on your system, it isnt shipped by a package.
[08:16] <YamakasY> bekks: oh yes it is
[08:16] <ogra_> i.e. something like: --adddir=main/debian-installer and --include=m/*udeb/ .... and probably for that specific dir also --nosource
[08:16] <bekks> YamakasY: whats the package name?
[08:16] <YamakasY> bekks: http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/amd64/
[08:16] <ogra_> bekks, debian-installer is essentically an initrd.gz
[08:17] <bekks> YamakasY: thats the netboot image, not a package.
[08:17] <ogra_> well, that is what a debian-installer package build spits out :)
[08:17] <bekks> YamakasY: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=initrd.gz&mode=exactfilename&suite=trusty&arch=any
[08:17] <YamakasY> indeed, and I need to have that synced into my mirror
[08:18] <jonascj> and in the end update-grub failed, os-proper being unable to deal with a linux-iso-usb insterted :S
[08:18] <ogra_> well in fact *this* is what building the package spits out: http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/installer-amd64/current/images/
[08:18] <ogra_> (the initrd.gz is then used on the specific install media)
[08:19] <YamakasY> ogra_: yes, but I need to have that repo synced into my mirror... foreman wants to wget it
[08:19] <ogra_> but bekks is right, there is no binary deb (which was whjat confused me first as well)
[08:19] <ogra_> YamakasY, right, there must be an option for this in whatever mirroring tool you use
[08:20] <ogra_> i know for sure debmirror has a set of options that schieves that (see above)
[08:20] <YamakasY> it's just too confusing what to mirror and don't have too much which is not needed... I use apt-mirror
[08:21] <jonascj> the osproper error went away when I removed the iso-usb. I have to learn how to make osproper ignore that usb drives. But it still goes on forever with libudev (~3 minute to do update-grub)
[08:22] <ogra_> YamakasY, http://hcmc.uvic.ca/blogs/index.php?blog=11&p=11929&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 ... see the "installer" section there
[08:27] <YamakasY> ogra_: yes I see that, but I don't have that in my postmirror.sh
[08:27] <YamakasY> not any of those lines
[08:29] <ogra_> so add it :)
[08:31] <YamakasY> ogra_: all of it ?
[08:31] <ogra_> try it :)
[08:36] <YamakasY> ogra_: first time is always scary :D
[08:37] <ogra_> :)
[08:37] <YamakasY> ogra_: postmirror.sh: 43: postmirror.sh: rsync://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-backports/main/dist-upgrader-all/: not found
[08:37] <YamakasY> and so on....
[08:41] <ogra_> drop dist-upgrader from the list then
[08:41] <ogra_> (especially for -backports you surely wont find one)
[08:44] <YamakasY> ogra_: but what I don't get... why do I use postmirror for this and does apt-mirror not handle this actually ?
[08:44] <ogra_> that i dont know ...
[08:48] <YamakasY> but it doesn't work :)
[08:52] <YamakasY> mhh this is odd
[08:52] <YamakasY> is debmirror better ?
[08:57] <pds> hmmm preseeding an ubuntu server, installed ansible through it, however want to run the ansible script after that but the problem is that is requires input from the user. Is there a way to run it when the user logins for the first time
[09:51] <pds> hmmm preseeding an ubuntu server, installed ansible through it, however want to run the ansible script after that but the problem is that is requires input from the user. Is there a way to run it when the user logins for the first time
[10:03] <yoyo09kh3> looking to create a write only shared folder on my ubuntu server.  The idea being other network users can save but not read / execute / list files written to the share... any advice on how to do this securely?
[10:08] <pds> this is not a technical question but i'm looking for the exchange rate of chf to euro at 7.06 (so previous month), what was the value of 1 CHF to euro
[10:13] <zetheroo1> how do you cancel a command that is hanging?
[10:13] <zetheroo1> CTRL+C is not working
[10:14] <pds> CTRL+Z
[10:15] <zetheroo1> pds: and if that doesn't work?
[10:20] <pds> CTRL + D?
[10:20] <pmatulis> morning
[10:20] <pds> how about opening a seperate shell ps aux it :)
[10:20] <pds> and kill it
[10:20] <pds> kill -9 <pid>
[10:21] <zetheroo1> pds: I have 3 shells open ... 2 are hanging and 1 is usable
[10:22] <zetheroo1> tty1 and tty2 are hanging ... tty3 is usable
[10:25] <pds> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15195470/how-to-kill-the-tty-in-unix
[10:26] <pds> or ps aux | grep "tty1" - gets pid      kill -9 <thatpid>
[10:27] <zetheroo1> ok will give that a whirl
[10:27] <zetheroo1> is there a command which tells you which terminal you are currently working in?
[10:31] <zetheroo1> pds: cool - that worked great!
[10:33] <pds> zetheroo1: zetheroo1: tty will print the current tty ;)
[10:33] <zetheroo1> ok
[10:38] <lordievader> I'll just leave this here: http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1xvr25/linux_tip_dont_use_kill_9/
[10:41] <zetheroo1> I desperately need to unmount a NFS share on this machine ... but even "umount -f -l" is not unmounting it
[10:41] <zetheroo1> Is there another super-duper command or method for unmounting an NFS share which is no longer working?
[11:37] <pds> this is not a technical question but i'm looking for the exchange rate of chf to euro at 7.06 (so previous month), what was the value of 1 CHF to euro
[11:38] <pds> hmmm preseeding an ubuntu server, installed ansible through it, however want to run the ansible script after that but the problem is that is requires input from the user. Is there a way to run it when the user logins for the first time
[11:38] <pds> disregard the message from 13.37.41
[11:40] <zetheroo1> pds: 0.82 Euro = 1 CHF on the 07th of June 2014
[11:40] <pds> yeah found that :)
[11:40] <zetheroo1> 0.82037 to be more precise ... :D
[11:41] <pds> that is 0.82 rounded :)
[11:44] <pds> Abhijit: hmmm preseeding an ubuntu server, installed ansible through it, however want to run the ansible script after that but the problem is that is requires input from the user. Is there a way to run it when the user logins for the first time
[11:56] <lobxop>  ExecStart=-/usr/bin/agetty --autologin username --noclear %I 38400 linux; Can any one tell me what does '-' in front of tpath and --noclear %I 38400  mean?
[12:06] <arcanus> hello im going to install a ubuntu server soon and i wonder where i do the encrption of the whole harddrive installation, ist under installation or after ?
[12:45] <caribou> gaughen: around ?
[12:48] <pds> you can encrypt the drive during install
[12:51] <pds> any one around here that  has knowledge of boot/login scripts
[13:27] <zetheroo1> Is it ok to setup LVM on RAID?
[13:28] <zetheroo1> I thought having read somewhere a few months back that there were problems with doing this ...
[13:30] <cal2010> hey folks. I just want to install desktop ubuntu (and I'll end up putting various server things on it anyways), but I only have the ubuntu server cd. since its not going to be a server (so forget some of the various reasons not to put gui on server instance), is there any problem / issue with me just installing ubuntu server and then adding the desktop / gui packages afterwards via network?
[13:31] <cfhowlett> cal2010 no problem.
[13:31] <cal2010> cfhowlett: thought so, thank you. time to rock n roll
[13:32] <cfhowlett> cal2010 happy2help
[13:35] <gaughen> caribou, I am now.
[13:35] <cal2010> wonderful. machine's cd drive doesn't open / work. fail.
[13:35] <caribou> gaughen: just wanted to let you know that I will be absent for the few upcoming weeks
[13:36] <caribou> gaughen: tinoco will attend for CTS
[13:39] <cfhowlett> cal2010 not a good sign.  USB boot supported?
[13:41] <cal2010> cfhowlett: yea. cdrom wasn't listed in boot when i had first checked anyways so that was the first warning, but didn't hurt to try.
[13:47] <peetaur2> zetheroo1: it is good to put LVM on raid. What is wrong is to use the LVM built in raid instead of md raid.
[13:50] <gaughen> caribou, thanks! hope you are doing something fun!
[13:50] <zetheroo1> peetaur2: ah ok
[14:00] <zetheroo1> I am going to do a RAID 1 across 2 disks .. but I am wondering if the Swap partition should be on the RAID or outside of it ...
[14:01] <zetheroo1> I am thinking outside ... no!?
[14:03] <jhobbs> up to you zetheroo1
[14:03] <jhobbs> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO-2.html <-- talks some about swap here, but might be kind of old
[14:04] <zetheroo1> I just thought that placing the Swap on the RAID might affect performance ... but maybe I am wrong ...
[14:05] <jhobbs> zetheroo1: if it gets used, and its on the same drives as the raid, it will affect performance, whether or not its part of the raid
[14:05] <zetheroo1> I see
[14:05] <jhobbs> if you're actually using swap you're probably screwed anyhow
[14:06] <jhobbs> if a server has enough memory for its workload it will never hit swap
[14:06] <zetheroo1> well I do change the swappiness to use it as little as possible .. but it still manages to use it a bit
[14:12] <peetaur2> zetheroo1: put swap on raid if you want to be sure it will survive if it's degraded... if there is something important on swap when the disk dies, the system might die with it
[14:12] <peetaur2> zetheroo1: raid is not a backup... its purpose is for easy maintenance, and live repairs, so that means in the normal case, you put your swap on raid
[14:13] <peetaur2> (or at least "scheduled repairs" rather than live or unplanned due to a crash)
[14:16] <peetaur2> zetheroo1: oh and related to your previous question... another thing that is not wrong but sometimes error prone is to have /boot in the lvm+raid too. It is very reliable with raid1 without lvm though, with metadata 0.90 or 1.0 (which the ubuntu installer will not set for you).
[14:18] <zetheroo1> peetaur2: so do I understand you correctly that /boot should be outside the RAID/LVM setup?
[14:19] <peetaur2> boot should be in a raid1 with metadata 0.90 or 1.0    (I know for sure 0.90 works as expected in Ubuntu, degraded or not)
[14:19] <peetaur2> (and 1.0 works in openSUSE with grub2... ubuntu 12.04 used grub 1.99)
[14:19] <peetaur2> and I didn't test 14.04 degraded
[14:20] <zetheroo1> peetaur2: wow, ok, this is a bit new to me I must admit ...
[14:20] <peetaur2> well actually I have lots of machines with 14.04 degraded (first disk now, 2nd disk planned in the future when old 2nd disk dies, a requirement was to do it without repartitioning) ... but didn't really test them
[14:21] <peetaur2> it's new to mostly everyone for some reason... people don't always test things. And they just read the docs which clearly say that raid and lvm are supported, and only clearly in some warning does it say that 1.2 is not supported (says something like "1.2 has metadata at the end of the disk. make sure the bootloader supports this")
[14:22] <peetaur2> I even bug reported it in some ubuntu docs and they ignored me. heh
[14:23] <zetheroo1> So after I create my RAID 1 array I should make a /boot partition on there before setting up the LVM on the rest of the disk (I am doing this all in the 14.04 server install wizard thingy)
[14:23] <zetheroo1> is that correct?
[14:23] <peetaur2> and in openSUSE I created a similar degraded boot bug (with some hackery) and reported it, and they couldn't find the bug in the version I tested but found it in the next release and fixed it. (a systemd issue apparently)
[14:24] <peetaur2> unfortunately, if you want to full out and do my recommendation, the gui won't let you set specific metadata on /boot.
[14:24] <peetaur2> so one way to do it is to do it in a TTY and then just tell it to install there, but not create the raid in the TUI
[14:24] <peetaur2> and other is just set it up, and then check and change it later (changing /boot is easy... you can umount and reformat while booted)
[14:25] <peetaur2> openSUSE also won't let you change it in the gui, but it uses 1.0 metadata by default on the boot, so it works fine.
[14:25] <peetaur2> I don't know what 14.04 does since I always do my partitioning in a text tty :D
[14:26] <zetheroo1> hmmm
[14:51] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[15:24] <pmatulis> afternoon
[16:40] <zanzacar> can anyone help me with this error? http://pastebin.com/Mb8wdGTH
[16:41] <zanzacar> I am not sure what the setuid helper is or how to change its permissions or what needs to happen.
[16:41] <zanzacar> It doesn't appear I can really install/update anything with this error going on.
[16:42] <zanzacar> I tried sudo apt-get -f autoremove, but it failed as well.
[16:54] <stemid> in isc-dhcp-server does anyone know if I need failover peer declarations in every single pool or can I use a global failover peer statement? the manual says I need it in every pool I want to failover but if I want to failover all pools can't I use it globally?
[16:54] <stemid> 12.04
[17:34] <miceiken> I have a question. Sometimes I do a 'sudo reboot now', it will give me the notice, but not actually reboot. Are there any logs for what's obstructing?
[17:51] <pmatulis> miceiken: i guess b/c reboot does not take an argument
[17:51] <pmatulis> miceiken: there was a bug about this
[17:52] <pmatulis> bug #1174272
[17:56] <miceiken> thanks pmatulis
[18:09] <KiCKiN> how do I change the shell resolution to a lower one before I reboot so my monitor will not show unable to display chosen resolution?
[18:17] <sarnold> KiCKiN: are you sure your video card is sending a signal at all at that point?
[18:18] <bekks> The ATI Rage2 is just too old.
[18:22] <pmatulis> eww, i remember that one
[18:29] <KiCKiN> pmatulis... I am trying to find a couple dual xeon quad core servers to replace my 11 year old dual xeon single core servers with at a low price...
[18:29] <KiCKiN> gonna try to ssh the configuration after install
[19:12] <Impulse__> anyone knows a good NAS OS?
[19:16] <ashd> Impulse__: FreeNAS
[19:22] <Impulse__> tried that...
[19:22] <Impulse__> to much rubisch
[19:23] <Impulse__> i don't need enterprise stuff, just some filesharing
[19:23] <sarnold> with drives as large as they are these days, checksumming and redundancy is hardly just for enterprises
[19:23] <patdk-wk> define enterprise
[19:23] <ashleyd> Impulse__: so just use iSCSI/SMB/NFS/Netatalk
[19:24] <ashleyd> Impulse__: on a roll-your-own
[19:24] <patdk-wk> atleast I wouldn't put freenas as enterprise, cause it hardly supports HA
[19:24] <sarnold> *snort*
[19:27] <Impulse__> maybe my knowledge of freenas is too little :-)
[19:29] <patdk-wk> heh, plugged some very nice ssd's into the server just now
[19:29] <patdk-wk> suprised I was only going 200MB/sec
[19:29] <patdk-wk> forgot, that server only had sata 3g :(
[19:30] <Impulse__> bassicly, i have an esxi with 2 VM's that need to acces the NAS to put files on it, and read from it, and i have a mediacenter that plays movies/music from the NAS.
[19:30] <Impulse__> before is used Win server, but damn, it used all my resources, and my VM's got problems with authentication to the windows... even with guest acces
[19:31] <sarnold> patdk-wk: sata 3g seemed so bonkers when it first came out.. :)
[19:31] <patdk-wk> na, 3g was good when it came out, as disks where almost to the sata 1 limit
[19:32] <patdk-wk> but 6g coming out so soon after that, seemed insane for awhile
[19:32] <sarnold> now 12g..
[19:32] <patdk-wk> ya, but you can get a single ssd that can fill 12g
[19:32] <sarnold> ooo
[19:32] <patdk-wk> nvme :)
[19:33] <patdk-wk> you do need dual channel pcie right?
[19:33] <sarnold> who doesn't? :)
[19:33] <patdk-wk> probably wait a year or two before I jump into that
[19:33] <patdk-wk> give it some time to debug
[19:43] <bananapie> Any idea what might cause tcpdump to see packets coming in on eth1 when I know the packets are coming in on eth0 ?
[19:43] <bananapie> I don't see any bonded adapters or bridges on the server using ifconfig
[19:44] <ikonia> brianblaze420: if tcpdump sees them on eth1 - there is traffic on eth1
[19:44] <brianblaze420> i see ;)
[19:44] <bananapie> but how can there by *incoming* traffic on eth1 if I disconnect the wire ?
[19:46] <bananapie> can tc move packets between interfaces?
[19:50] <ikonia> brianblaze420: there will be internal traffic
[19:53] <brianblaze420> ikonia: u r talking to bananapie ;)
[19:53] <bananapie> but the "internal" traffic that tcpdump is seeing on eth1 disappears when I disconnect the wire for eth0. What's more, the traffic on eth0 is coming from all my devices on the network. If I setup a crossover between my laptop and eth1 and ping the IP on eth0, it replies,  but it shoudln't
[19:53] <ikonia> brianblaze420: I am, sorry
[19:54] <brianblaze420> no worries haha
[20:14] <KiCKiN> how do I add a pair of 500GB drives during install to server 14.04 for srv storage?
[20:16] <bitfury> anyone know why when I remove munin server and install it again, some configuration files are missing and plugins directory /etc/munin/plugins is empty?
[20:16] <bitfury> this is ubuntu server 14.04
[20:16] <bitfury> how do I get it to install exactly the same way as it did when I first install it?
[20:17] <patdk-wk> bitfury, cause remove doesn't do cleanup
[20:17] <patdk-wk> you want purge
[20:17] <patdk-wk> and munin server WILL NOT install plugins
[20:18] <patdk-wk> the server has nothing to do with plugins
[20:21] <bitfury> patdk-wk: that's what it was, thanks for clarifying
[20:22] <patdk-wk> ya, remove is, remove the binaries, but keep my configs and custom stuff
[20:22] <patdk-wk> purge is, kill it all
[20:22] <patdk-wk> why you normally don't want purge :)
[20:33] <bitfury> patdk-wk: weird, installing munin-node still doesn't populate the plugins directory
[20:37] <bananapie> so it turns out the guy who asked me to look at his server messed with /etc/udev/rules.d/net-persistent.
[20:37] <bananapie> hehehe
[20:37] <bananapie> troubleshooting is easier when people are honest
[20:45] <bananapie> what's worse if they have a loop in their switches..
[21:35] <massimodecimome> thor
[21:35] <massimodecimome> ù
[21:35] <massimodecimome> bye
[23:26] <pmatulis> what the?