nuvolario/ good morning :)05:21
nuvolarihi Tonberry 05:21
nuvolariMaaz: coffee on05:21
* Maaz starts grinding coffee05:21
nuvolariMaaz: botsnack05:22
MaazThank you thank you, munch munch chomp chomp05:22
MaazCoffee's ready for nuvolari!05:25
nuvolarithank you Maaz 05:26
nuvolariMaaz: thanks05:26
Maaznuvolari: Sure05:26
nuvolarifine :-/05:47
nuvolarimoet nie groet nie05:47
ThatGraemeGuymorning peoples06:31
inetprogood mornings07:00
charlmorning inetpro, ThatGraemeGuy, Squirm, nuvolari07:09
charlMaaz: coffee on07:09
* Maaz starts grinding coffee07:09
nuvolarioh hi inetpro, charl, ThatGraemeGuy, Squirm07:13
charlMaaz: hurry up with that coffee, i need to wake up07:13
Maazcharl: Excuse me?07:13
charlnope no excuses hurry up07:13
MaazCoffee's ready for charl!07:13
charlMaaz: thanks !07:13
Maazcharl: No problem07:13
charlhi Kilos :)07:19
Kiloshi Squirm ThatGraemeGuy nuvolari and others07:19
Kiloshi charl lee07:19
Kilosdag Spekko 07:19
ThatGraemeGuy'lo, 'lo & 'lo07:26
Kilosinetpro, ping07:34
charli'm in a good mood this morning07:46
charlmaybe it's because i slept so well07:46
charli could hardly get up this morning07:46
Kiloshi Vince-0 07:50
Vince-0o/ Oom Kilos 07:54
Kiloswhen you gonna add something interesting to the agenda Vince-0 08:00
Vince-0ha! I've been so busy here trying to start a company08:03
Vince-0;-) I think kbmonkey won't make it to chair this eve08:05
Vince-0I haven't been keeping up with the Canonical news, 08:06
Kilosya he told me, is he ok08:06
Kiloshe didnt answer when i asked is he ok08:06
Vince-0probably busy with work too08:06
Vince-0I'm sure I can dig up some news feed items about Ubuntu08:08
Vince-0I remember there being a desktop environment productivity study somewhere08:08
Kilosalso we need to find out what we can do to improve our connectivity in za08:09
Kiloslike to to email and rev08:09
KilosMaaz, google south african minister of communication08:10
MaazKilos: "Department Of Communications" http://www.doc.gov.za/ :: "Minister of Communications (South Africa) - Wikipedia, the free ..." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minister_of_Communications_(South_Africa) :: "Department of Telecommunications and Postal Services - Wikipedia ..." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_of_Telecommunications_and_Postal_Services ::08:10
Maaz"Blog: South Africa's new communications ministry causes concern" http://cpj.org/blog/2014/0…08:10
Kilosi dunno what one would call that minister08:10
Vince-0cape town's pushing big fibre projects08:11
Kilosive found that if one complains to the top they get great pleasure in revving everyone beneath them08:11
Kilosyes fibre is the answer, but they need to wake up peeps like voda with their adds of how wonderful they are08:12
Kilostake bushtech for example, he gets utms from them but yoyos all the time, they have no excuse for that08:13
Vince-0Here's the untiy productivity article08:14
Kilosconnectivity wise i cant complain, because im online nearly all the time08:14
ThatGraemeGuyyou want the ZA ubuntu loco to shout at govt to improve connectivity?08:19
=== SubOracle[away] is now known as SubOracle
Kilosnot as a loco but as individuals08:20
Kilosthe peeps at the top just sit and enjoy their incomes and perks, so, if no one informs them of what probs there are they just park off08:21
inetproKilos: pong08:22
inetprooh and hi08:23
Kiloslike pta govt section, i used to have power cuts almost daily everytime the wind blew or it rained and complaining didnt help08:23
Kilosi then got hold of the mayor and within 2 weeks all trees near lines were trimmed or removed and since then power has been quite stable08:24
Kilosohi inetpro are you ok?08:24
Kilosmeeting tonight08:24
nuvolariwhat meeting?08:24
ThatGraemeGuyKilos: govt is forever making noise about improving connectivity08:25
ThatGraemeGuyas with many things, awareness isn't the issue, lack of action is08:25
Kilosyes ThatGraemeGuy that is 08:25
Kilosjust political talk to get votes08:25
Kiloswhen contacted at the top they actually do things08:26
Kilosall the speaches you here are written and read and not absorbed, one needs to actually make them act on complaints or issues08:27
Kilosread speeches go above or through minds08:28
nuvolaribut guys/ladies, remember, the previous regime kept the interwebs away from us before 1994! :P08:29
Kilos20 years ago08:29
nuvolariok, sorry, we're not supposed to discuss politics IIRC08:29
Kiloswe as net users must do something to improve the net for us and future users08:30
Kilosas they say if you dont buy a ticket you cant win the prize08:30
nuvolarioom Kilos, it only went mainstream globally in 199408:31
nuvolariIIRC :P08:31
Kilosjust lurking and complaining will never have any results08:31
Kilosnuvolari, im mainly thinking of poor stability atm08:32
Kilosyouve all had it when trying to attend a meet or something08:32
Kilosif someone can point me to the correct peeps to contact ill do the mailing08:33
=== SubOracle is now known as SubOracle[away]
KilosThatGraemeGuy, i got my mv setup working , is it weaker than the lv setup? or did i do something wrong09:16
Kilosoh and what are solar panels for09:16
Kilosi have made some but they dont connect like the things with a cross inside09:17
Kiloshaha were there no comments or opinions to that link that unity is king09:21
Kilosi think im the only one here using it still09:21
charli don't think it's that bad actually09:23
charlubuntu one is closing down /09:24
nuvolaricharl: eh? you didn't get the annoying notifications? :P09:25
Kilosi read why somewhere, but as in my case maybe it wasnt utilised as it could be09:25
charlnuvolari: no somebody else i know just forwarded me a mail09:25
charli never use ubuntu one09:25
charlcloud storage in general09:26
charlat work we have a owncloud based thing now09:26
Kilosit worked quite fine to share things09:26
charlbut i'll keep it to that09:26
charli'm interested to know why they decided to cancel their service now09:26
charlconsidering that those types of tools are all the rage at the moment09:26
charlmaybe not profitable enough ?09:27
Kilosit was in the earlier emails i think charl  that they gave the reason why09:27
charlah ok never got them09:27
ThatGraemeGuyKilos: solar panel produces power09:31
ThatGraemeGuythe "thing with the cross" is a solar array, it also makes power, but more than a panel09:31
Kilosyou connect them with same cables ThatGraemeGuy ?09:31
ThatGraemeGuyMV stuff uses MV cables09:31
ThatGraemeGuyLV stuff LV cables09:31
ThatGraemeGuyguess what you use for HV stuff? :P09:32
ThatGraemeGuyLV/MV/HV is low/medium/high voltage09:32
Kilosoh i didnt notice if they were mv or lv09:32
ThatGraemeGuylv is white cables09:32
ThatGraemeGuymv cables are black09:32
Kilosya i got that far09:32
ThatGraemeGuyhv cables are black and yellow stripes09:32
Kilosdo your mv arrays also supply less power than the lv ones with same number of them cross things09:34
Kilosi get 2500 from 5 lv ones and 1500 from same number mv ones09:35
Kilosbut they are on the opposit side of the roof09:36
Kilosthat thing09:37
ThatGraemeGuysame height09:37
Kilosill check again tonight09:37
ThatGraemeGuyare they MV panels or MV arrays?09:37
Kilosarrays for both09:37
ThatGraemeGuyyou have LV arrays if i recall correctly09:37
ThatGraemeGuymine are HV, so i can't compare09:38
Kiloswas major work making mv arrays09:38
ThatGraemeGuyyea its a lot of effort09:38
ThatGraemeGuythe idea is to make you work for the more useful stuff09:38
ThatGraemeGuywait until you build a mining laser ;)09:38
ThatGraemeGuya mk3 one is a huge amount of resources09:39
Kilosi found a rank3 chest in new server too09:39
Kilosgot to bronze tools haha09:39
Kilosand i found lava09:39
ThatGraemeGuyyou digging down?09:39
ThatGraemeGuydon't get too comfortable there ;)09:39
Kiloswen into a cave then kept going down 09:40
Kilosjust put lights and kept going09:40
Kilosnope was just looking what ores there are, no mese yet09:41
Kilosbut lots of new stuffs09:41
ThatGraemeGuymese only starts arouns -128 isn't it?09:42
Kilosi dunno09:43
Kilosbut it works kiff just empty of bulidings09:44
Kilosbuildings and roads09:44
Kilosthe main one is very lekker with everything in09:45
Kiloswhen we all got lazer guns you can turn on the monsters09:46
ThatGraemeGuylasers are for mining09:46
ThatGraemeGuykilling monsters is work for swords09:46
Kilosdont they kill peeps too?09:46
ThatGraemeGuylasers? don't know09:46
Kilosim sure they will09:46
ThatGraemeGuyits a mining laser, don't know if the mod was written to damage players09:47
Kilosand everything behind the monster too haha09:47
Kilospicks kill peeps09:47
Kilosthat lazer is an impressive tool09:48
ThatGraemeGuypicks damage players because that's how the code was written09:48
Kilosthe only code i know is ...---...09:53
Kilos.... --- .--   -.. ---   -.-- --- ..-   -.. --- ..--..09:54
Kiloshehe maaz makes it so easy09:54
Squirmgot my new PC last night10:38
Kilosyou happy?10:47
Kilosai! some peeps11:01
Kiloscome help yourself to pecan nuts but dont use the gate, rather cut the fence11:02
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ThatGraemeGuyKilos: where did you dig on the new map?11:21
KilosThatGraemeGuy, i didnt dig i went into a cave11:29
Kilosare you there now?11:30
Kilosill pop in so you can find me11:30
Kilossorry i took so long, was having lunch11:31
charlgood afternoon folks11:54
charlbusy busy today whow11:54
charldoes Maaz do esperesso ? i need a double one i think11:55
Kiloshe makes boeretroos11:56
charlas long as it's freshly ground biological coffee11:56
Kilosalways fresh , written in python11:57
ThatGraemeGuyKilos: http://mt.donaldson.za.net/new.png11:59
ThatGraemeGuyi'm going to delete that map12:00
ThatGraemeGuystopped the server so long12:00
ThatGraemeGuythe orange in the forest is fire, by the way12:00
Kiloswow ThatGraemeGuy big one hey12:14
Kilosdid you see if that thing was a dungeon12:14
ThatGraemeGuywhen i was underground i picked up some lava into a lava can12:14
Kiloshaha naughty12:14
ThatGraemeGuyand then i was cutting trees and i guess i accidentally mousewheeled or something, because instead of cutting a tree i put down a lava block :(12:14
Kilosuh oh12:15
ThatGraemeGuyi'm looking into how rollback works12:15
Kilosyou rush too much12:15
ThatGraemeGuythere is apparently a rollback function so you can undo something12:15
ThatGraemeGuynot sure though12:15
Kilosits not serious12:15
Kiloswe havent done anything there really12:15
ThatGraemeGuyyou remember waaay back when you were playing with lava and pouring it from high into a lake?12:18
ThatGraemeGuythis is why i warned you to be careful ;-)12:18
ThatGraemeGuyalthough in this case i was in a jungle, which is pretty much the worst place to drop lava12:18
ThatGraemeGuyjungle grass and trees grow very close together :-/12:19
Kiloslol we made that lake mooi man12:19
Kilosive built some walls around so it can be filled again even higher12:20
Kilosthen we can make layered places12:21
Kilosdid you see the glass house the fly built under that lake12:21
ThatGraemeGuyremind me tonight, will check it out12:22
Kilosi drowned a coupla times just trying to get to the entrance12:22
Kiloswe can call it atlantis12:22
Kilosand start a colony of mermaid peeps that work outside12:24
Kiloswe havent had one female visitor yet12:24
* Kilos goes to kde. wbb12:27
Kilosmy unity is corrupt somewhere12:30
KilosMaaz  hi12:31
MaazHowzit Kilos12:31
ThatGraemeGuyKilos: http://mt.donaldson.za.net/new.png12:32
ThatGraemeGuywater didn't help12:32
ThatGraemeGuyif you stand still it seems that fire only spreads a certain distance12:32
ThatGraemeGuyexcept some fire still exists at the edge of that distance12:32
ThatGraemeGuyand as soon as you move closer more stuff starts burning12:33
Kiloslike everything else it needs new source to carry on12:33
ThatGraemeGuyyou see that square, i was standing at the centre of it, so it only burned until that distance12:33
ThatGraemeGuydidn't spread, but i could still see fire at the edges of the square12:33
ThatGraemeGuyand as soon as i moved closer it started spreading again12:33
Kilosdont peeps get burned12:34
ThatGraemeGuyif you stand right in it12:34
Kiloseish more system updates available12:34
Kilosi know lava really cooks you, i have the pile of bones to prove it12:37
magespawngood afternoon all13:33
charlhi magespawn :)13:38
magespawnhey charl13:38
nuvolariai keeel you! slf4j is a pile of nonsense13:54
nuvolarianyone around that knows how to tame it?13:54
charlnuvolari: have you tried log4j13:57
charllogging in java is a mess in any case13:57
magespawnanyone know for sure what frequencies are unlicensed in south africa? 14:03
nuvolaricharl: it's a 3rd party lib using it14:04
nuvolaricharl: I might be missing the point of all the logging frameworks, but we've been quite happy with JUL14:05
nuvolaribut yeah, agreed, logging is a PITA14:05
charla pita? looking it up14:08
charloh, now i see :) thought it sounded a bit like spanish puta14:09
ThatGraemeGuymagespawn: you mean spectrum available for licensing or bands that may be used without licence?14:13
ThatGraemeGuyeither way, icasa likely has the information14:14
ThatGraemeGuywhether its easily understood is a different question14:15
magespawnThatGraemeGuy, that is the problem, i am looking at the bands that can be used without a licence14:17
ThatGraemeGuywhat are you doing?14:18
magespawni understood that 2.4Ghz and 5.2Ghz where un-licensed14:18
ThatGraemeGuyoffhand i know of 2.4GHz and 5GHz14:18
magespawnlooking into wug and other wan network ideas14:18
ThatGraemeGuyyeah that's where 802.11 stuff goes14:18
ThatGraemeGuyyeah thats what they use14:19
ThatGraemeGuyhttp://www.scoopdistribution.co.za/index.php/antennas-24ghz-c-38?osCsid=a5bsan37h22l07fecfv2i8d1g2 and http://www.scoopdistribution.co.za/index.php/antennas-5ghz-c-37?osCsid=a5bsan37h22l07fecfv2i8d1g214:19
ThatGraemeGuywith WUG its best to get in touch with your local guys, they are typically quite helpful14:19
ThatGraemeGuywell the CTWUG guys are at least14:19
magespawnalso i think that if it goes out your property you still have to apply to icasa for licence exemption14:20
ThatGraemeGuywhich equipment you need is dependant on what's already in place near you14:20
ThatGraemeGuynot sure14:20
magespawnthat is what i understand from icasa14:21
ThatGraemeGuybut contact your WUG people, they will likely know all the answers already. no need to get lost alone, rely on the community14:21
magespawni think the durban one will be the closest14:22
ThatGraemeGuywhere are you?14:22
magespawnEmpangeni currently but mostly Hluhluwe14:22
magespawni did not know about that supplier, thanks for those links14:25
magespawnalso from icasa if you provide any service to a third party regardless of the frequency you use you have to be licensed14:26
ThatGraemeGuythe WUG people typically have an IRC hangout that's usually a good place to lurk for a bit14:27
ThatGraemeGuyyou are supplying yourself with service :P14:27
ThatGraemeGuyif there was an ICASA hassle they would've shut down the WUGs already14:27
ThatGraemeGuyseriously, talk to your WUG people, they have all these answers already, no sense trying to speculate or make sense of ICASA nonsense14:28
Kiloshi magespawn  Gremble  lemme catch up14:35
magespawnhey Kilos14:37
magespawni think WUG fall under the exemption part of the rules14:38
magespawni agree with that ThatGraemeGuy 14:40
charlthese issues are often a legal grey area, just like many others14:46
charlif you join a wug, you have strength in numbers14:47
charlbesides, you can simply state it's community building14:47
charlrather join a larger existing group of people than trying to go at it yourself14:47
Kiloshe is miles away from  any wugs charl  14:48
Kilosmagespawn  is this for home town or pangeni14:49
magespawnhome town Kilos14:49
ThatGraemeGuyKilos: wug links can be up to 50km depending on equipment and environment14:49
ThatGraemeGuythey're a bit more powerful than your WiFi AP at home ;-)14:49
Kiloshe is more than 50k from pangeni i think14:50
magespawni am not sure but i think the nearest 250km +14:50
magespawnin durban14:50
ThatGraemeGuyah, that might be a significant hurdle14:50
charlnope no luck there14:50
ThatGraemeGuyyou will have to build repeaters ;-)14:50
charlyou're going to need multiple relays indeed14:50
magespawni have not found anything here in empangeni14:50
Kilosmagespawn  hometown including parks?14:50
magespawnjust the town and any out lying farmers that want to join14:51
charlmagespawn: speak to the DWC guys, they were making a killing14:51
Kiloshaha you gonna make them pay with pineapples14:51
magespawnmight be an idea14:52
charlmagespawn: they might already have some long-range relay points14:52
magespawnDWC ?14:52
charlthe DWC used to be big, i don't know how they are right now14:52
charlmy knowlege about za is outdated :)14:52
Kilosmagespawn  is quite clued up with wifi  equipment already he has done that one resort in a park iirc14:53
Kilosits just the legal stuff hey magespawn  ?14:53
Kilosbeen in your mind more than a year now14:54
magespawnyup i have sort out the licence exemption services and networks application14:54
charlbbl all14:55
magespawnhad a visit from the icasa compliance and enforcement officer today14:55
charlmeeting tonight ?14:55
Kilosyes charl  14:55
charlok bbl then :)14:55
KilosMaaz  announce monthly meeting tonight at 20.30 peeps14:56
MaazHear ye, hear ye! monthly meeting tonight at 20.30 peeps14:56
Kilosinetpro  ^^ 114:56
Kilosnuvolari  ^^214:57
Kilossuperfly  ^^314:57
Kilosplustwo  hi there are you attending?14:58
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KilosThatGraemeGuy  have you noticed, one can install ubuntu as an OEM as well15:10
Kilosi saw it on a dvd for the first time 15:11
Kiloswb Vince-0  you at home now?15:27
Vince-0oh hey15:27
Vince-0I am indeed15:27
Vince-0hopefully one day I won't have to leave home to go to work15:28
Kilosthats the ideal15:28
Kilosbut you find when you work for yourself you put much more effort and time in15:29
Vince-0at least then its not working for the man!15:30
Kilosyou find you are a harder taskmaster on yourself than anyone else was15:31
Vince-0I do envy the farm dwellers somewhat. Been watching Doomsday Preppers lol15:32
Kilosliving on a farm is lekker but farming is hard work 24/715:33
Kiloswhen not working you worry about what you should have already done15:33
Vince-0I like the idea of being self sufficient, subsintence etc15:35
Kilosyes it is a satisfying achievement, you can look in the mirror and say hi boss15:37
Kiloshi Tonberry  meeting tonight hey15:37
Kilosnote tuesday15:37
Vince-0I guess you need some service provider for internet at least15:37
TonberryI'll see if I can make it.15:37
Kilosno beer night on tuesday its on monday15:38
Vince-0so do we have a chair person?15:39
Kilosnuvolari  said he would chair for us15:39
Vince-0'cos I'm not sure on the bot commands etc - perhaps an instructional how to is in order15:39
Kilosi have them saved somewhere. hopefully not on the crashed 500g drive15:40
Kilosfirst is to get permission from the pro15:41
Kiloshi bushtech  meeting tonight at 20.30 hey15:41
bushtechThans Kilos will try & stay up & Vodacom willing15:42
bushtechbeen up since 4 so it's a race between bed & vodacom15:49
Kiloswhy so early15:50
bushtechcar service, closest subie stealership in midrand15:52
bushtechdidn't know I drive a Lambo, wanted to charge me R7,600 for a rear silencer box. Told him where he can put it15:55
bushtechnew box from performance exhaust place R80015:56
Kiloswhat a diffs hey15:57
bushtecha factor of 1015:58
Kiloswhat car is it15:59
magespawndealerships are always more expensive, the price for keeping the warrenty intact15:59
bushtechand what makes me really cross is the women who bring their cars in, don't know any better and just have to hoes15:59
magespawnsome men too16:00
bushtechfor sure16:00
bushtechbut their prices ensures that their head mechanic has got a very lucrative business at home lol16:02
GrembleI once took my Bantam to a mechanic to replace the rear brakes and fix the handbrake. After I got it back both my back bearings destroyed my drums and the handbrake did not work.16:08
GrembleI don't have a car at the moment16:08
GrembleNot a fan. Haha. The reason I took it to him was because I struggled to replace the rear brakes myself. 16:10
GrembleDrums are a pain in the arse16:10
bushtechYeah! need to note where everything goes & which way & which side16:11
Kiloswhen you have a car its good to try get a correct workshop manual. everything is explained nicely in them16:11
magespawnHaynes Workshop manuals16:12
Gremble^ Those manuals are so expensive though 16:12
GrembleI tried to find one on the internet16:12
bushtechmake very very good friends with the parts manager & try to get a st of workshop manuals out of him16:13
bushtechs/st set16:13
Kilosyes they are magespawn  but work out what you save paying someone else16:14
magespawnyes they are fairly pricey, but if you think about the money saved on services16:14
Kilosworth every cent16:14
Kilosalso you can look at libraries too and photostat needed pages16:14
Kilosand at them flee markets on sundays, ive seen many being sold for like 50 bucks16:15
bushtechyou can also find workshop manuals free online but it's a long hunt16:16
Kiloseven qualified mechanics use manuals at times16:19
Vince-0I use google howto's every day16:20
Kiloslol the pro loves saying google is your friend16:36
magespawnsee you guys at the meeting later16:54
Kilosok magespawn  16:54
Kilosi go est17:02
Kiloseat too17:02
Kilosinetpro  no g+ reminder for the meet yet!17:22
Kilosai! ek sukkel darem met my volk17:23
Kilosnuvolari  ping17:34
KilosVince-0  can you do us a favour and just announce on g+ about the meeting please, it should get to inetpro  and his circles hey?17:35
charlgood evening17:42
magespawnhey Kilos17:51
magespawnwb charl 17:51
Kiloswb magespawn  17:51
Kiloshi charl  17:51
magespawnwhat time for the meeting? 20:30?17:52
Kilosdid the rain cool things down well17:52
Kilosyip magespawn  17:52
magespawnty Kilos 17:55
Vince-0Kilos: ok17:56
KilosVince-0  ty17:56
Vince-0I just reshared the community page with time17:58
Kiloscool ty17:59
Kilosim sure he said it would notify automatically17:59
Kilosbut doesnt look like it anymore17:59
Kilosluckily we dont have anything serious to discuss i think18:01
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy  18:03
Kilosdo you know ofhand where i turn off popup notifications18:07
Kiloswhen i move my mouse they popup from all over the place18:08
Kilosthe one here in konversation when i hover over nicks is fine18:09
ThatGraemeGuyscreenshot maybe?18:10
Kiloslol i hit f12 but dunno if it took one and if it did where is it18:13
ThatGraemeGuyare you talking about minetest?18:17
Kilosno man kubuntu18:17
Kilosand the normal popups when you move yourt mouse over things18:18
Kilosi cant remember them being so annoying on 12.0418:19
Kilosmaybe i got old18:19
Kilosare you in the game ThatGraemeGuy  ?18:20
Kilosai! these multitaskers18:23
ThatGraemeGuynot yet just testhing something18:23
Kilosyou should start napping from tomorrow night from 8  or 9 till 11 then we can play18:24
Kilosi only manage about an hour anyway18:24
Kilosthe chair will be here soon18:28
Kilosbushtech  wb are you sure you havent got some timeout stting going18:28
Kilosthe idle thing18:29
Kilosyou stay online for long periods18:29
bushtechjust rebooted laptop18:30
* nuvolari sings *please forgive me, for running late...*18:31
nuvolarioh hi :)18:31
nuvolariwb bushtech_ 18:31
* nuvolari opens up agenda18:32
bushtech_but that was not a reboot, just disconnected by itself18:32
Kiloswe min tonight18:32
nuvolaridid the wiki layout change?18:32
Kilosoh my18:33
Kilosthats pro and monkey that play there18:33
Kilosand both not here18:33
nuvolarithe ubuntu wiki oom18:33
nuvolarimeh, authentication hangs...18:33
nuvolariok, right18:34
nuvolariMaaz: start meeting about Monthly Ubuntu-ZA IRC meeting, July 201418:35
* Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles18:35
nuvolariMaaz: topic Welcome18:35
MaazCurrent Topic: Welcome18:35
nuvolariWelcome everyone18:35
nuvolariwell, everyone that could make it18:35
Kilosty nuvolari  18:35
nuvolariwe're not running on all the cylinders tonight18:36
Kiloshi superfly  wb18:36
nuvolarihi superfly 18:36
nuvolariMaaz: I am Johan Mynhardt18:36
Maaznuvolari: Done18:36
charlMaaz: i am Charl van Niekerk18:36
Maazcharl: Sure18:36
KilosMaaz  I am Miles Sharpe18:36
MaazKilos: Okay18:36
superflyMaaz: I am Raoul Snyman18:36
Maazsuperfly: Okay18:36
Kiloshi fulcrum  welcome to ubuntu-za18:36
nuvolariPlease identify yourself or risk not showing up in the meeting minutes 18:36
nuvolarihi fulcrum, welcome18:36
nuvolariare you joining us for the meeting fulcrum ?18:37
nuvolariMaaz: botsnack18:37
MaazThank you thank you, munch munch chomp chomp18:37
fulcrumSaw it on g+ and thought I would take a gander 18:37
nuvolariso, I've been very quiet, and hopefully that will change18:37
nuvolarihi amanica_, welcome18:37
bushtech_Maaz: I am dries Laubscher18:37
Maazbushtech_: Okay18:37
Kiloshi amanica_  18:37
nuvolariawesome, we hope you enjoy it fulcrum :)18:37
amanica_hi all :)18:38
Kilosfulcrum  you are welcome to join in18:38
amanica_Maaz: I am Marius Kruger18:38
Maazamanica_: Done18:38
fulcrumAlso a good reason to muck about with an irc client on Android :-) 18:38
nuvolariWe are past halfway for this year... it's been a busy year and I can't believe it's July already18:38
nuvolariVince-0: ping, you here?18:39
Kiloseveryone is just too busy these days18:39
Vince-0Maaz: I am Vincent Swart18:39
MaazVince-0: Done18:39
nuvolarioh, welcome to all the new people18:39
nuvolarithere are a couple of nicks I don't recognise18:40
superflyQuassel FTW18:40
Kiloslol where are you superfly  ?18:40
nuvolariok, moving on...18:40
nuvolariMaaz: topic Review Previous Minutes18:41
MaazCurrent Topic: Review Previous Minutes18:41
superflyVince-0: thanks for the reminder on G+18:41
nuvolariprevious minutes: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2014-06-24-18-31-28.txt18:41
superflyKilos: currently downstairs, using my Kindle Fire HDX18:41
* nuvolari catches up on what happened last time18:42
Kilosinetpro  ping18:42
* superfly will try to keep an eye on things while he washes dishes18:43
Kilosty superfly  18:43
superflyJust mention my name if you need me.18:43
* nuvolari sees mention of SFD on a Caturday18:44
nuvolariand I'll be a Capetonian by then :D18:45
superflynuvolari: where in the promised land will you be?18:45
nuvolarisuperfly: claremont, well, working in claremont, I'm still nest-hunting18:46
superflyLook in plumstead/diep river18:46
nuvolarisuperfly: cool, thanks! I'll have a look18:47
* nuvolari oggles https://u.fsf.org/yu18:47
nuvolariok, does anyone want to talk about something from the previous meeting's minutes?18:49
* nuvolari slips away for a quick bite18:49
nuvolariok, moving on18:51
nuvolariMaaz: topic Releases18:51
MaazCurrent Topic: Releases18:51
* nuvolari remains on 12.04.4 LTS18:51
nuvolariI have support until April '1718:52
nuvolarifeels like until forever in terms of software18:52
Kilos14.04 is good nuvolari  18:53
nuvolariso in 3 months we have Utopic Unicorn18:53
* Kilos will stick with lts18:54
* bushtech_ also on 120418:54
nuvolariWhat's a Tahr?18:55
Kilossome animal18:55
amanica_I'm quite happy 14.04, not much changed from 13.10 :)18:55
nuvolariI'd say it's where the tyre meets the road... but I might be wrong :P18:55
amanica_some goat18:55
GrembleThat goat has a magnificent beard18:57
Kilosso what happens after 6 more releases18:57
Kiloswe start at A again or what18:58
amanica_back to a18:58
Kilosawesome ape18:58
nuvolariwait, what am I missing? when did we move back to the wiki for events?18:58
nuvolariI thought it used to be based on launchpad or something18:59
Kilosdont worry just use it19:01
* nuvolari mainly forgot wiki syntax19:01
nuvolariWhat would the topics be for next month? :P19:01
Kilosjust same basic topics19:02
* nuvolari spends some time planning ahead and updating the event19:02
superflyMoinMoin syntax is horrible... Then again, so is mediawiki19:02
nuvolarimarkdown ftw19:02
superflyrST or Markdown would be so much better19:02
nuvolarirst? 19:02
* nuvolari googles19:02
superflyI prefer reStructuredText, but I'm getting used to markdown19:03
superflyIts kinda Python's default syntax19:04
nuvolariooh nice, it's quite extensive19:04
superflyYeah, it's meant for writing technical documentation... The Python docs are written using it19:05
nuvolarimoving on,19:07
nuvolariMaaz: topic Events19:07
MaazCurrent Topic: Events19:07
nuvolariSFD on the 20th of September19:07
nuvolariAre there any plans in the works yet?19:08
Kilosi dont think so19:08
Kilosstill a while before then19:08
nuvolariit's past in the blink of an eye19:09
KilosVince-0  ?19:09
Vince-0there arent19:09
Vince-0where's that link for the unity article..19:09
nuvolariwhich unity article?19:09
Kilosoi on unity and im on kde now19:09
Kiloswell done Vince-0  19:10
amanica_yeah as one of the organizers from last years' SFD event at WITS I havn't heard of anything either, and the other organisers are also quiet. i.e. we need volunteers if we are gonna do something19:11
nuvolariMaaz: agreed: we need to spark attention on SFD19:13
Maaznuvolari: Excuse me?19:13
nuvolariMaaz: pfft19:13
Maaznuvolari: Huh?19:13
Kilosno :19:13
nuvolariMaaz: agree we need to spark attention on SFD19:13
Maaznuvolari: Huh?19:13
nuvolariMaaz: agreed we need to spark attention on SFD19:13
MaazAgreed: we need to spark attention on SFD19:13
nuvolarimoving on?19:14
nuvolariMaaz: topic Tech19:14
MaazCurrent Topic: Tech19:14
nuvolariI am totally out of touch with new tech...19:14
* nuvolari is embarrassed19:14
Kilosyou can start catching up soon19:15
nuvolariAndroid Wear?19:16
nuvolarithat might be appropriate :P19:16
nuvolariand Android TV and Drive? or is it Auto/Automotive19:16
nuvolarimeh, throw in everything from Google I/O 201419:16
nuvolariThere, we're sorted.19:17
superflyI rooted and ROMed my new Kindle Fire HDX 719:19
nuvolarisuperfly: with android?19:21
nuvolarimeh, I think we can slowly finish off this meeting19:22
nuvolarinot too much going on19:22
nuvolariMaaz: topic Elect Chairperson for next meeting19:22
MaazCurrent Topic: Elect Chairperson for next meeting19:22
Kilosthings have got very quiet19:22
nuvolariI'm available19:22
nuvolariwell, hope I'll be available 19:22
Kilosnuvolari  +119:23
nuvolariI'll gladly do it again :)19:23
Kilosyou and monkey were gonna do it anyway19:23
nuvolariok cool19:23
nuvolariMaaz: agreed nuvolari to chair next meeting on 26 August 201419:23
MaazAgreed: nuvolari to chair next meeting on 26 August 201419:23
nuvolariMaaz: topic Next Meeting Date19:24
MaazCurrent Topic: Next Meeting Date19:24
nuvolariThe next meeting will be on the 26th of August19:24
Kilosadd sfd to next minutes19:24
nuvolariI've set up an event page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/2014082619:24
Kilossuperfly  anything to add?19:25
nuvolariok, done, it's there from the copied page :P19:25
nuvolariMaaz: meeting.next19:26
Maaznuvolari: meeting.next is http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/743/detail/19:26
nuvolarisee, why don't we use those pages any longer oom Kilos ?19:26
Kilosi have no idea nuvolari  19:26
superflysorry, was AFK19:26
nuvolariMaaz: forget about meeting.next19:26
Maaznuvolari: I didn't know about about meeting.next anyway19:26
nuvolariMaaz: forget meeting.next19:26
Maaznuvolari: Okay19:26
nuvolariMaaz: meeting.next https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/2014082619:27
Maaznuvolari: Sorry...19:27
nuvolariMaaz: meeting.next is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/2014082619:27
Maaznuvolari: If you say so19:27
nuvolariclosing off19:27
nuvolariI think it was an OK meeting, taking into account the number of attendants 19:28
nuvolariI will update the minutes likn for the next meeting shortly19:28
nuvolariMaaz: end meeting19:28
MaazMeeting Ended19:28
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Kilosnuvolari  ty for chairing on such short notice19:29
nuvolariYou're welcome oom Kilos :)19:29
amanica_thanks guys19:29
nuvolariit was refreshing having some free time again :P19:30
nuvolarithanks for coming amanica_ 19:30
amanica_thank Vince-0 :)19:30
Kilosthanks for attending guys19:30
Kilosapologies from neelsie, they were fighting fire in warmbaths area19:33
Kilosnuvolari  ty it was great having you back19:35
Symmetriaheh damn19:38
Symmetriawhile mirroring sourceforge19:38
SymmetriaI managed to sustain complete saturation on a gigabit ethernet card19:38
Symmetriafor 12 solid hours19:38
Symmetriaand the disks actually kept up 19:38
ThatGraemeGuynight all19:43
Kilosnight ThatGraemeGuy  19:43
Kilosdid you expect them not to Symmetria  ?19:58

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