[00:00] <Lunario> what do you suggest to do? :)
[00:01] <eeee> well i'd delete the efi partition of windows
[00:01] <Lunario> The manual says: "If your disk already contains an EFI partition (eg if your computer had Windows8 preinstalled), it can be used for Ubuntu too. Do not format it. It is strongly recommended to have only 1 EFI partition per disk. "
[00:01] <Lunario> However, do I format it when I set its partition type from Fat-32 to "Efi boot"?
[00:01] <eeee> repartition, format, copy back the win efi files (or use the recovery usb to get them back)
[00:02] <eeee> yeah i don't think you can change partition types and not format...
[00:03] <eeee> also i think efi boot and fat32 are basically the same thing but with a different name
[00:03] <eeee> if they aren't though, i think you'd have to format
[00:03] <wlrr> I'm trying to completely uninstall virtualbox on ubuntu 14.04, but cannot seem to track the Virtualbox.run file to uninstall. and since this was installed from the .deb package off of Oracle Virtualbox site, apt-get remove virtualbox-ose --purge --auto-remove is not working.
[00:04] <eeee> if you have the efi backed up 100%, then why don't you try the dosfsck, maybe it can fix the corrupt filesystem?
[00:04] <Lunario> I would do that if I knew for sure that my windows recovery system works flawlessly. It has some F3-hotkey-at-startup-recovery tool integrated instead of a recovery disc, and I am not sure how reliable that is. Also, I guess if I used that recovery tool, it would just reformat the boot partition back to Windows Boot Manager and delete Ubuntu's EFI entries again
[00:05] <wlrr> In other words, I ran a find command in root for any files with "Virtual" and nothing.
[00:06] <Oriiiiiiin> That moment when you realise you're an incredible idiot and accidentally installed 32 bit instead of 64 bit
[00:06] <Lunario> well, I have the backup of the sda2 on my usb key, however not in the form of a .img file but as an unpacked .img file. I am not sure if I can still use it to restore the efi in case dosfsck doesn't work out?
[00:07] <Lunario> I have no idea why the .img file of the sda2 backup unpacked itself on my usb key
[00:07] <eeee> i have no idea,
[00:08] <eeee> i still think you should just boot into windows and make that recovery usb, and then copy its contents to another pc or something
[00:08] <Lunario> but as I am a noob when it comes to partitioning, file system, images stuff etc, I guess I shouldn't wonder. lol
[00:09] <Lunario> I wanted to, but to make a recovery usb/disc of windows, I need the product key. My Windows 8.1 is not illegal, but I simply don't know where to find it. I checked all the documents I received from MSI, all Emails from the retailer, the Utility CD from MSI etc... I cannot find it anywhere.
[00:09] <nosound> I have no sound. My Z97 mobo's sound does not work, it just clicks, all fixes I've found do nothing.... so I tried a different sound card, flat out did not recognize it, so i'm now trying a THIRD sound card, this one gives me sound, but ONLY on the left speaker...
[00:09] <eeee> Lunario: the key is in the bios :)
[00:10] <Lunario> I was looking at the Bios too but couldn't find it (though, I didn't look too closely there I guess, as I did not expect it there)... maybe I should check again
[00:10] <eeee> they don't give it out anymore, the installation gets it automatically
[00:10] <eeee> well you can get it via linux
[00:10] <eeee> one command, or by downloading tools for win8,
[00:11] <Lunario> will check the bios again, one sec
[00:11] <eeee> let me get the command for ubuntu, i've tried that and it works
[00:11] <Lunario> ok
[00:11] <Lunario> thx
[00:11] <eeee> i dont think you'll find it in the bios
[00:11] <eeee> hold on..
[00:11] <Lunario> np, need to start the Ubuntu live cd in any event
[00:12] <nubcake> good morning, i set my eth0 to "eth0 inet static" with ip address, subnet and gateway, can connect to my lan, but not to the internet... if i do ~:sudo ifconfig it tells me the correct settings, but if i go to the Network Settings Panel and click on "options" it tells me: Did not find a connection with UUID'(NULL)'   (Ubuntu 14.04 gnome)
[00:13] <wlrr> sudo apt-get purge virtualbox uninstalls it. But I thought there was a cleaner way of doing it, that wouldn't leave any remnants behind.
[00:13] <nubcake> any ideas/suggestions ?
[00:13] <eeee> Lunario: sudo cat /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/MSDM
[00:13] <eeee> the key is after the jibberish it's like: ##### - ##### - .......
[00:14] <ghostnik11> what command is there to find the bluetooth module
[00:14] <rap424> lickalott: Do you have acroread.sh in /etc/bash_completion.d   ?
[00:14] <Lunario> thanks eeee, will try, one sec
[00:14] <eeee> Lunario: btw, i just thought are you trying to make a recovery cd, as in the recovery of the laptop ?
[00:15] <eeee> cuz it's weird that it's asking for the key
[00:16] <eeee> i mean the recovery usb that doesn't restore the whole pc, it just gives you some stuff and a command prompt, with diskpart (to partition) and dism (it can extract images... it's very handy) and other stuff to build the efi partition and stuff
[00:16] <eeee> it's only like 100-200mb or so
[00:17] <eeee> to get to the recovery usb, you go to search and type recovery usb or something like that
[00:19] <Lunario> I did not yet try it personally, just read on a Microsoft manuals page that I need the product key for it
[00:21] <Lunario> The key has 4 times 5 letters, right?
[00:21] <Lunario> If so, I found it in the MSDM file :)
[00:21] <eeee> no, it's 5 times 5 letters
[00:22] <Lunario> ah yeah, true
[00:22] <Lunario> alright, gonna boot into windows and try to create the recovery usb
[00:26] <Lunario> you were right, I found the recovery tool in Windows :) gonna create the recovery usb now
[00:26] <Lunario> however I do not have a 32 gb sized usb key, which is required according to the recovery menu...
[00:27] <eeee> no no no
[00:27] <eeee> in the recovery tool, don't select the checkbox that says copy the contents of the recovery drive
[00:27] <eeee> it's only 256mb i just checked online
[00:28] <eeee> http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/5132-recovery-drive-create-usb-flash-drive-windows-8-a.html
[00:29] <Lunario> ah right
[00:29] <Lunario> now it works
[00:30] <Lunario> (though it's 512 mb minimum, not 256, according to the tool... but that doesn't matter)
[00:30] <eeee> oh, maybe that's cuz its win8.1 not win8
[00:31] <Lunario> yeah
[00:31] <Lunario> Testing the recovery usb after creating it won't automatically recover anything, right?
[00:31] <Lunario> cause I would like to make sure it works, though I would not like to recover anything yet (and hopefully not need to. lol)
[00:32] <eeee> yeah, you can try the command prompt
[00:33] <Lunario> ok, will do that now, then reboot into Ubuntu live cd and do the dosfsck :))
[00:34] <eeee> :)
[00:34] <Lunario> btw I hope I'm not keeping you awake in case it's also night where you are :D
[00:36] <eeee> no, i'm up anyways at night :)
[00:36] <Lunario> k
[00:44] <Lunario> sudo dosfsck -r /dev/sda -> /EFI/ubuntu , Start does point to root directory. Deleting dir. Perform changes Y/n ?
[00:45] <eeee> y
[00:45] <Lunario> "/dev/sda2: 406 files, 12015/75776 clusters"
[00:45] <Lunario> That's it, program finished
[00:45] <john_rambo> I remember Hardy included a Network tool which had feauture of audio nitification on ping reply ...Is it still available ? What is it called ?
[00:45] <eeee> run it again
[00:46] <Lunario> "Orphaned long file name part "ubuntu" -> 1. Delete   2. Leave it ?
[00:46] <eeee> 1
[00:47] <Lunario> done. Ran it again, no more questions came up
[00:47] <Lunario> Now reboot and check if grub is there?
[00:49] <ghostnik11> does anyone know the command for identifying your bluetooth adapter
[00:50] <eeee>  one sec
[00:50] <Lunario> k
[00:50] <eeee> Lunario: now you reinstall grub
[00:50] <eeee> i dunno
[00:50] <cryptolulz> so i have a question
[00:50] <eeee> i guess... try to reboot if you want
[00:50] <Lunario> ok, will try reinstalling grub first..
[00:51] <eeee> ok
[00:51] <eeee> ill brb
[00:51] <Lunario> k
[00:52] <cryptolulz> i have ubuntu (not sure which version) installed/running on an Acer C720 chromebook and it works fine, except the trackpad wont work and you need a mouse..
[00:52] <cryptolulz> ive heard theres an update or bug fix for it but i havent been able to find it
[00:55] <Lunario> Installing grub-efi-amd64 worked, but still grub doesnt show up when booting... will try installing grub (or grub2?)
[00:55] <eeee> you have to chroot to install grub
[00:56] <eeee> did you chroot like before ?
[00:56] <Lunario> oh darn, I forgot that..
[00:57] <Lunario> What was the exact command for chroot again, after apt-get install grub-efi-amd64?
[00:57] <eeee> first you have to mount the filesystem
[00:58] <eeee> mount the /boot, mount the other /dev /prov stuff, then chroot
[00:58] <eeee> then install apt-get install grub-efi-amd64
[00:58] <eeee> sudo mount /dev/sda7 /mnt  (iirc)
[00:58] <eeee> sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/boot/efi
[00:59] <eeee> for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[01:00] <eeee> sudo chroot /mnt
[01:00] <Lunario> ok, one sec
[01:03] <Lunario> ok, did all the mounting and chroot /mnt. Now apt-get install grub-efi-amd64?
[01:04] <eeee> sudo apt-get install --reinstal grub-efi-amd64
[01:04] <eeee> *--reinstall
[01:05] <Lunario> Internal error: No file name for grub-efi-amd64:amd64
[01:10] <rubytor> Lunario: try boot repair....
[01:10] <Lunario> I already tried installing it but it didn't find the amd64 packages
[01:10] <gumansingh> hello guys I don't know if it is right place or not to ask it. I have got a Acer laptop acer e1-571-6_br642, its RAM is 2 GB. I want to increase RAM of this laptop. how can I know supportable memory for this laptop? I am thinking to get 4 GB external in that case it would be (2GB+4GB) 6GB RAM. would it be bad systeam configuration
[01:10] <mkdmz> On a live disk, does anyone know how I can stop the language picker when it boots?  I just want it to boot live.  I'm chroot it the squachfs ing it.
[01:11] <mkdmz> Does it have anything to do with grub?
[01:12] <mkdmz> If so, how can I alter grub on the live disk?
[01:12] <eeee> Lunario: try sudo apt-get install grub-efi
[01:12] <ObrienDave> mkdmz, it has to do with how the live disk was built, no, you probably can't change it with out making your own live disk
[01:13] <Lunario> done
[01:13] <Lunario> wow
[01:13] <Lunario> seemed to have worked
[01:13] <Lunario> Output:
[01:13] <mkdmz> ObrienDave: I'm making my own by chrooting then squashsing , I can do that, I just don't know where to find the file to stop the language picker.
[01:13] <eeee> Lunario: update-grub
[01:13] <ObrienDave> mkdmz, i don't know either
[01:13] <Lunario> Found ... (various linux/initrd images): Adding boot menu entry for EFI firmware configuration. done
[01:13] <eeee> wait,
[01:14] <eeee> Lunario: type grub-install /dev/sda
[01:14] <Lunario> ok
[01:14] <Lunario> no update-grub?
[01:14] <eeee> then update-grub
[01:14] <Lunario> k
[01:14] <Lunario> "Installation finished. No error reported"
[01:15] <eeee> ok now update-grub
[01:15] <Lunario> done
[01:15] <Lunario> Same output like apt-get install grub-efi
[01:15] <eeee> ok let's see
[01:15] <eeee> ls /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu
[01:16] <Foxhoundz> this is weird
[01:16] <Lunario> grub.cfg, grubx64.efi, MokManager.efi, shimx64.efi
[01:16] <Foxhoundz> I uninstalled ngnix which was running alnogside apache
[01:16] <realty> no no you are supposed to type rm -r /.
[01:16] <realty> :P
[01:16] <Lunario> :) seems to have worked
[01:16] <eeee> Lunario: cool
[01:16] <Foxhoundz> but when I navigate to my web server it shows the server header as being nginx
[01:16] <Lunario> now reboot?
[01:16] <Foxhoundz> what gives?
[01:16] <eeee> Lunario: wait
[01:17] <eeee> did you turn off fast boot in windows before installing ubuntu ?
[01:17] <eeee> one guy was saying that the bug might be caused by that
[01:17] <Lunario> I wanted to but I could not find any entry related to Fast Boot
[01:18] <Lunario> Only Secure Boot
[01:18] <eeee> that's something you have to fix
[01:18] <Lunario> I guess
[01:19] <eeee> if you boot into ubuntu after shutting down windows, your filesystem will be unstable
[01:19] <Lunario> I read that I can workaround fastboot by stopping Windows via Rightclick at Startmenu -> Shutdown (instead of normal shutdown button)
[01:19] <eeee> cause fastboot is like hibernate
[01:20] <eeee> so you'd have to restart windows instead of shutting down
[01:21] <eeee> anyways if you want to get grub without pressing any key during start up
[01:21] <eeee> you have to use those commands i gave you in the beginning
[01:21] <eeee> to replace the files
[01:21] <Lunario> So whenever I want to start Ubuntu after my PC has been completely shut down, I should first start Windows, then click on restart Windows and then start ubuntu?
[01:22] <eeee> yeah
[01:22] <eeee> that's correct
[01:23] <symptom_> hello there
[01:23] <ObrienDave> that sounds like a PITA
[01:23] <Lunario> Well, according to theteachjournal.com one can disable Fast boot in the Energy options. When I have done that, it should work as usually I guess (without needing to restart Windows everytime I want to start ubuntu)
[01:23] <eeee> ObrienDave: very true, he should disable fast boot
[01:24] <symptom_> i got an elantech touchpad and want to use it with gestures and some fine-tuning. what possibilities do i got if i want to compete with osx's touchpad functions?
[01:24] <Lunario> So should I now reboot, check if GRUB comes up and then start Windows to disable fast boot?
[01:24] <Guest19125> joint #ubuntu-fr
[01:25] <eeee> well you could replace the files
[01:25] <eeee> if you had to press a key to get grub, then you won't anymore
[01:25] <Guest19125> ÷
[01:26] <Lunario> What were the commands for replacing them again? They are not in the IRC log anymore, unfortunately
[01:26] <Lunario> BTW why would I need to press a key to get grub?
[01:26] <Lunario> (and which key?)
[01:26] <eeee> did you have to press a key to get grub before ?
[01:27] <ObrienDave> usually holding shift during boot gets you the grub menu
[01:27] <eeee> some bios are hardcoded to only boot windows efi
[01:27] <Lunario> no, I merely had to put "ubuntu" before the "Windows Boot Manager" in the Boot Options UEFI
[01:27] <Lunario> ok
[01:27] <eeee> so you have to manually select ubuntu every time it starts to get grub
[01:28] <eeee> oh ok, my laptop is different i can't switch them
[01:28] <Lunario> I could only try that two times because, after those two times, Windows had overwritten/deleted the ubuntu boot option. lol
[01:28] <Lunario> So I don't know if it would always be like that
[01:28] <eeee> well, you could switch the files, that way windows will never know
[01:28] <Lunario> I guess I'll reboot and see what happens now, and if GRUB starts I'll boot into Windows to disable Fast Boot. Is that a good idea?
[01:29] <Guest19125> bonsoire qui peu aider a joint ubuntu fr
[01:29] <Lunario> Guest19125, the /j #ubuntu-fr
[01:29] <eeee> Guest19125: /join #ubuntu-fr
[01:29] <ObrienDave> !fr| Guest19125
[01:29] <Guest19125> ok merci
[01:30] <delfick> Hi, when I try to install libssl-dev it fails https://gist.github.com/anonymous/d216fb28ae69ae93d9e5
[01:30] <microm> invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/cups not found
[01:30] <delfick> it looks like it tries to find /pool/main/o/openssl/libssl-doc_1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.3_all.deb but the mirror only has /pool/main/o/openssl/libssl-doc_1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.4_all.deb (2.4 instead of 2.3)
[01:31] <Lunario> Great, Grub started and I could choose btw ubuntu and Windows :) Uefi Boot config looks just like it did after installing Ubuntu too
[01:31] <Lunario> Now I only need to make sure Windows doesn't delete the ubuntu boot option anymore
[01:32] <eeee> yeah
[01:32] <eeee> sometimes fast boot is in the settings of the laptop manufacturer
[01:32] <Allons-y> hi
[01:32] <Allons-y> couple of questions: What's linux-firmware-nonfree and why I should install it?
[01:34] <Lunario> ok, deactivated Fast Boot. :)
[01:34] <eeee> ok cool
[01:34] <eeee> one more thing
[01:34] <ObrienDave> Allons-y, non-free means it is not licensed the same as free software
[01:34] <Allons-y> aham
[01:35] <eeee> i noticed if you shut down the pc from the button in win8 it's the same as shutting down with fast boot on, even though it's off in my pc
[01:35] <eeee> so just a heads up
[01:35] <zykotick9> Allons-y: fyi, that has many of the firmware required to make non-free hardware (wifi cards in particular) work...
[01:35] <Allons-y> oh
[01:35] <Allons-y> ok
[01:36] <Lunario> What about Rightclick on Start Menu -> Shutdown?
[01:36] <eeee> i tried to mount the win partition and it said it was unstable and in hibernate state or something
[01:36] <eeee> so i figured it was cause i used the button earlier
[01:36] <Allons-y> the second question is: I don't like Unity. My pc is very old and doesn't handle it very well. Can I switch to the good old gnome?
[01:36] <eeee> i dont know about that, i dont have a start menu in win8
[01:37] <eeee> :)
[01:37] <Beldar> Allons-y, old gnome no.
[01:37] <Lunario> How do you shut down Win 8 to evade that pseudo-hibernate state?
[01:37] <zykotick9> !notunity | Allons-y
[01:38] <ObrienDave> Allons-y, may i suggest XFCE for your DE?
[01:38] <eeee> Lunario: just shutdown with the button i guess
[01:38] <eeee> i mean
[01:38] <Allons-y> What's XFCE, ObrienDave?
[01:38] <eeee> normally
[01:38] <ObrienDave> XFCE is the DE in Xubuntu
[01:39] <eeee> not from the laptop's power button, honestly i haven't used windows 8 except for a couple times since installing ubuntu
[01:39] <ObrienDave> Allons-y, Unity is why I switched to Xubuntu :))
[01:39] <hogh0h0h0> whats up fuckheads
[01:39] <hogh0h0h0> à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à
[01:39] <hogh0h0h0> ObrienDave, what were you saying bitch?
[01:39] <Lunario> Alright, just shut it down, started the PC again and GRUB showed up again :)
[01:39] <Lunario> yay
[01:39] <eeee> if i boot into it to use something i end up restarting except for that one time i used the button
[01:39] <hogh0h0h0> à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à
[01:39] <Lunario> seems like the problem is finally solved =)
[01:39] <hogh0h0h0> à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à
[01:39] <Allons-y> Hum... I've just installed Ubuntu 14.04 today xD
[01:39] <hogh0h0h0> à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¸ªà¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à
[01:40] <ObrienDave> i love a good ignore command
[01:40] <hogh0h0h0>              ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็
[01:40] <eeee> cool
[01:40] <hogh0h0h0> ]ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็
[01:40] <zykotick9> Allons-y: you can just install the xfce4 metapackage on your ubuntu and then have the choice at login which to use
[01:40] <Allons-y> oh
[01:41] <Lunario> Thanks a lot for your help, eeee! =) Without your help I probably would never have figured out how to do all this.
[01:41] <eeee> you're welcome :)
[01:41] <zykotick9> Allons-y: fyi, you can alternativly install the xubuntu metapackage, but then you'll get multiple programs for the same thing (which may or may not be desirable)
[01:41] <Lunario> Now I can finally go to sleep without any more ubuntu-worries
[01:41] <Lunario> Good night :)
[01:42] <gfofihty> b̡̢̡͍͚̲̲͔̼͓̟̮͔̞̫̝̦̠̝̹͓̱̣̣͚͜b̡̢̡͍͚̲̲͔̼͓̟̮͔̞̫̝̦̠̝̹͓̱̣̣͚͜b̡̢̡͍͚̲̲͔̼͓̟̮͔̞̫̝̦̠̝̹͓̱̣̣͚͜b̡̢̡͍͚̲̲͔̼͓̟̮͔̞̫̝̦̠̝̹͓̱̣̣͚͜b̡̢̡͍͚̲̲͔̼͓̟̮͔̞̫̝̦̠̝̹͓̱̣̣͚͜b̡̢̡͍͚̲̲͔̼͓̟̮͔̞̫̝̦̠̝̹͓̱̣̣͚͜b̡̢̡͍͚̲̲͔̼͓̟̮͔̞̫̝̦̠̝̹͓̱̣̣͚͜b̡̢̡͍͚̲̲͔̼͓̟̮͔̞̫̝̦̠̝̹͓̱̣̣͚͜b̡̢͍͚̲̲
[01:42] <eeee> hehe
[01:42] <eeee> thanks, you too :)
[01:42] <gfofihty> ḅ̧̙̪̻͍͖̗̩͕̮͇̘̭͍̝͕̮̦͖̙̪̭͙̼͜ḅ̧̙̪̻͍͖̗̩͕̮͇̘̭͍̝͕̮̦͖̙̪̭͙̼͜ḅ̧̙̪̻͍͖̗̩͕̮͇̘̭͍̝͕̮̦͖̙̪̭͙̼͜ḅ̧̙̪̻͍͖̗̩͕̮͇̘̭͍̝͕̮̦͖̙̪̭͙̼͜ḅ̧̙̪̻͍͖̗̩͕̮͇̘̭͍̝͕̮̦͖̙̪̭͙̼͜ḅ̧̙̪̻͍͖̗̩͕̮͇̘̭͍̝͕̮̦͖̙̪̭͙̼͜ḅ̧̙̪̻͍͖̗̩͕̮͇̘̭͍̝͕̮̦͖̙̪̭͙̼͜ḅ̧̙̪̻͍͖̗̩͕̮͇̘̭͍̝͕̮̦͖̙̪̭͙̼͜ḅ̙̪̻͍͜
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[01:42] <gfofihty> ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็
[01:43] <gfofihty> ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็
[01:43] <gfofihty>                              à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡ à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à¹‡à
[01:44] <Fall> lol
[01:44] <eeee> sad.. that's got to be the worst flood attempt ever
[01:45] <ObrienDave> amazing how well the ignore comand works LOL
[01:45] <Fall> lel
[01:47] <dopie> how do i do color in the terminal?
[01:48] <eeee> printf "\x1B[31m"
[01:48] <eeee> that's red
[01:48] <anex> like this?
[01:48] <anex> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/x_resources#Terminal_colors
[01:50] <eeee> you have to switch between the colors, like make it red, <your text> then , reset the color
[01:51] <eeee> like this will echo e in red only printf "\x1B[31m" && echo e && printf "\033[0m"
[01:55] <repozitor> after i have put my ssh in tunneling mode this error appeared to me
[01:55] <repozitor> "channel 3: open failed: connect failed: Connection refused"
[01:55] <repozitor> how to fix it?
[01:56] <repozitor> ssh -L 8150:localhost:8150 -t repozitor@mydoain.foo
[02:02] <anex> can i get some suggestions or comments on this?
[02:02] <anex> http://storage7.static.itmages.com/i/14/0722/h_1405994206_7614765_44c98f181d.png
[02:02] <anex> http://storage9.static.itmages.com/i/14/0722/h_1405994284_9663021_feaca7e66e.png
[02:02] <anex> http://storage5.static.itmages.com/i/14/0722/h_1405994392_9642174_f49e713924.png
[02:02] <anex> http://storage6.static.itmages.com/i/14/0722/h_1405994583_5829020_b1dad74ca9.png
[02:04] <somsip> !14.10 | anex
[02:04] <anex> ;]
[02:04] <anex> on gnome 3.12
[02:05] <anex> im not asking for support just wonted a opinion on the theming
[02:05] <anex> lol
[02:06] <LanDi> anex: http://lolnux.com/36.html
[02:06] <LanDi> hehehe
[02:07] <anex> heh
[02:09] <dcope> i have two of the same mp3s. both are 160kbps. one is about 4mb less than the other.
[02:09] <dcope> is there something that could be causing this? i thought changing the bitrate was the only way to compress an mp3
[02:09] <SirLagz> dcope: are they from the same source ?
[02:09] <dcope> SirLagz: no, they are from different places
[02:10] <dcope> i'm trying to figure out how one got the file size down so much
[02:10] <dcope> and kept the bitrate
[02:10] <SirLagz> do they sound the same ?
[02:10] <ectospasm> Is there a way to browse your Ubuntu One files online, or do you have to use u1_downloader?
[02:10] <dcope> SirLagz: yeah, the sound quality seems the same
[02:10] <dcope> and again... same bitrate. i'm pretty confused o_O
[02:10] <SirLagz> dcope: maybe poke it with avprobe or ffmpeg and see if they can point out differences ?
[02:13] <meganerd> is anyone here familiar with using ufw to filter forwarded IPv6 traffic?
[02:14] <WHAT_UP1> so i'm running rsync with 5000 remote files as destinations, but it's just giving an empty output and doing nothing. 700 files, on the other hand, does what you'd expect. what gives?
[02:14] <WHAT_UP1> errr, 5000 remote files as sources
[02:16] <hakesak> ...
[02:16] <WHAT_UP1> it's a big command
[02:22] <dcope> i can't get the files smaller with lame or ffmpeg
[02:22] <dcope> using the 160kbps bitrate
[02:23] <dcope> this is a mystery
[02:23] <dcope> o_O
[02:24] <WHAT_UP1> the plot thickens
[02:24] <meganerd> dcope: I missed the first part, what does your lame command look like?
[02:25] <dcope> lame --mp3input -b 160 in.mp3 out.mp3
[02:25] <dcope> in.mp3 is 160kbps so the out is the same file size
[02:25] <dcope> but the mp3 im comparing this to is 160kbps yet 4mb smaller o_O
[02:26] <mitch-_> does anyone know of a way to monitor for when a bluetooth device connects and then run a shell script when that event happens?
[02:30] <meganerd> dcope: so there is another mp3 file of the same song that is smaller?
[02:30] <dcope> yes
[02:31] <meganerd> dcope: is the smaller file using a variable bitrate?
[02:31] <dcope> meganerd: nope, constant
[02:32] <meganerd> dcope: what encoder was used on the other file?
[02:32] <meganerd> dcope: also, what was the source file in all these cases?
[02:33] <dcope> it seems like there's a lot of "junk" in the big file
[02:33] <dcope> wonder if it's in the meta data
[02:36] <meganerd> exiftool -AudioBitrate file.mp3
[02:36] <meganerd> dcope: what do you mean by "junk"
[02:37] <dcope> meganerd: so i'm using media info and saw this
[02:37] <dcope> large file:
[02:37] <dcope> Stream size                              : 5.41 MiB (55%)
[02:37] <dcope> small file:
[02:37] <dcope> Stream size                              : 5.41 MiB (94%)
[02:37] <dcope> i've tried removing the album art too but it's not making a difference
[02:39] <dcope> meganerd: figured it out. it was the cover
[02:39] <SirLagz> 4Megs of Cover ? yuck
[02:40] <meganerd> dcope: that must be some seriously large image
[02:40] <meganerd> dcope: I make my own mp3s so I don't usually have this issue.
[02:41] <meganerd> dcope: I buy flacs from hdtracks :)
[02:41] <purrr> hi, I am having an issue with brightness. I don't know what it is. it just seems like the display has a orangy dark filter over it
[02:41] <ectospasm> Y'all were no help.
[02:42] <purrr> it is not a display setting, it has to be the operating system (ubuntu 14.04)
[02:43] <sydney> Is there a demo video f unity 8 with mir yet?
[02:43] <sydney> of*
[02:44] <purrr> it use to look fine. then it stopped looking so nice. I tryed to use an old back up image with clonezilla but it was dark too. then I fully upgraded it to 14.04 (from 12.04) and still dark, so I did a fresh install of ubuntu 14.04 and it is still dark. and ideas on what coould be going on. I have it dual booted with windoes 7 and it looks bright as everr, so it is not a tv setting
[02:52] <purrr> never mind. I think the TV display settings change depending on the operating system that it detects. I up the contrast and brightness and now all is well. Thank you, bye!
[02:58] <zCoder> Hi. Does anyone know of decent incremental backup with a web based interface?
[03:02] <Geo> Any suggestions on how programs that can stress test a network? I'm not worried about stateful traffic, I'm just looking for a simple way to shoot traffic from a few eth: interfaces to a list of destination IPs
[03:02] <Geo> s/how/ /
[03:03] <Geo> being able to send at a few different ports would be nice though
[03:05] <bornagain> can't seem to get any answers in the python channel. anyone want to answer a newbie python q?
[03:06] <meowster> ??? what is your question
[03:07] <bornagain>  ./geany_run_script.sh: 5: ./geany_run_script.sh: ./tic: not found
[03:07] <bornagain> this is what i get when i try to execute a simple program in geany
[03:07] <meowster> lol
[03:07] <meowster> well seems pretty simple with the error essage
[03:08] <meowster> you ls the directory to verify file is in there
[03:08] <toolazyforaname> oh boy this is going to be good
[03:09] <meowster> lol dont say ne thing
[03:09]  * toolazyforaname waits with baited breath
[03:12] <bornagain> ok non-python question.. why isn't ubuntu more popular with the vast majority? i only wish i'de found it sooner
[03:12] <toolazyforaname> is it
[03:12] <toolazyforaname> it is*
[03:12] <toolazyforaname> it's probably up there with fedora for most popular distro
[03:13] <meowster> i personally belive ubuntu is a great distro for those getting started with linux
[03:13] <bornagain> I mean percentage wise, i'de guess 60 windows 30 mac 10 linux... is that even close?
[03:13] <meowster> gives you the gui with access to terminal
[03:13] <toolazyforaname> i have mixed feelings on that. I personally wish I started on debian
[03:14] <somsip> bornagain: no way near (this is offtopic so please continue in #ubuntu-offtopic) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems
[03:14] <toolazyforaname> bornagain: linux (i believe) at its core fails to be accessible to the mainstream
[03:16] <visceral> toolazyforaname: when upstreams do their own (quality) packaging, it might stand a chance
[03:16] <toolazyforaname> disagree
[03:16] <visceral> there is a divide between "how upstream intended" and "what you get in a distro"
[03:16] <visceral> in terms of release cycles, at least
[03:16] <nopii> I don't think it's a technological issue. My mint box with KDE is way more usable than windows 8.
[03:17] <nopii> it's just a marketing/network effects problem
[03:17] <toolazyforaname> for one main reason. Linux has a philospphy of freedom of choice and customization. I think the lack of ability to brand itself is its own downfall
[03:17] <visceral> there are also quality issues with the linux desktop (server side is pretty solid)
[03:17] <sysop2> has anyone  run WD Quick View  in wine with a firewire drive?
[03:17] <nopii> I disagree. It was easier to scan a document on Linux than it was on windows 8.
[03:18] <toolazyforaname> nopii: cherry picking
[03:18] <sysop2> its easier and 100% cheaper to install an office package too
[03:18] <nopii> So what if I had to fudge around with printer drivers and CUPS... :P
[03:18] <toolazyforaname> lol
[03:19] <nopii> Now that I did, it prints better too.
[03:19] <toolazyforaname> plug and play is a sometimes rule on linux
[03:19] <nopii> Printers used to just be paperweights to a Linux box.
[03:19] <toolazyforaname> a big problem for 99% of computer users
[03:19] <danielsantos_> oi
[03:19] <sysop2> not if you have an hp or borther
[03:19] <nopii> upnp worked for my printer/router/linux box setup
[03:19] <nopii> with epson xp310
[03:20] <sysop2> brother I mean, brother had offical linux drivers before hp
[03:20] <nopii> stuff routinely doesn't work on my wife's windows 8 computer
[03:20] <nopii> so it ends up getting done on this machine instead.
[03:20] <danielsantos_> poo
[03:21] <toolazyforaname> probably because you have mastery over your os. the whole point of windows and osx is taht the os shouldnt be a thought
[03:21] <toolazyforaname> at least my view of their phi~losophy
[03:24] <sysop2> lexmark hates linux, epson  is brand I left in the dot matrix days.
[03:24] <sysop2> you want something that works scanner or printer wise in linux get brother or hp.
[03:27] <toolazyforaname> i draw the line at buy hardware for the software
[03:27] <toolazyforaname> buying*
[03:27] <sysop2> I should be more precise, lexmark hates the people that by their low end printers and refuse to give them linux support just incase you might use it as a network printer, if you want a network printer they want you to buy their expensive brands
[03:28] <sysop2> why not? I choose nvidia over ati based on the drivers
[03:29] <toolazyforaname> I'm not chastizing others for doing so, I just see software as being flexible and moldable hardware not as much
[03:29] <sysop2> why should only look at half of the equation? what good is awesome hardware thats a pain or you cant use?
[03:29] <sysop2> yes software is flexible devlopers are not always so.
[03:30] <sysop2> unless you are willing to write your driver I do not see your point?
[03:31] <toolazyforaname> sysop2: I'd rather chose the OS that will nicely handle my hardware (within reason) than buy hardware that conforms to my OS
[03:32] <sysop2> I still do not see your point. I choose the OS that suits me and I vote with my dollars and only by hardware that is supported by my os.
[03:32] <sysop2> by=buy
[03:33] <toolazyforaname> well i guess thats where we differ. I will tolerate an OS i don't like as much which is better with my drivers
[03:34] <toolazyforaname> I'll deal with it on linux (and struggle bitterly to get drivers to work) but I'm happy to have a windows part to fall back on
[03:34] <sysop2> well if its some specialized bit of hardware that you have to have I would understand. but nowsdays there multiple versions of evertyhing and usualy you can find a version that is support by linux or someone will buy one and reverse engineer a driver eventually although sometimes that takes years
[03:35] <toolazyforaname> the same could be said about OSes
[03:35] <sysop2> not really
[03:35] <toolazyforaname> You  can chose to run windows (if you have the money --i do).
[03:36] <toolazyforaname> It boils down to a weight of wants/values
[03:36] <sysop2> oh I run run windows for specialized things, but in a virutal or on a secondary box.
[03:36] <sysop2> playon.tv is something that doesnt run well in a virtual and really its just better run on real hardware.
[03:38] <toolazyforaname> put it this way, if i have the choice to buy equally capable hw solutions, one supported by nix, and one not I'll 100% go for nix. But if the one that isn't supported is better and fits within my needs andd budget, i'm getting that one
[03:38] <bet0x> People say I have the legs of a dancer. But until they find the rest of the body, the cops have nothing on me, man!
[03:40] <sysop2> Iits worth it to me to pay a litle more sometimes to get an linux supported bit of hardware,  I am not an OS purist but linux my os of chocie and I do everything to support I can.  I have run linux as my desktop at home and work for almost a decade.
[03:41] <toolazyforaname> i feel ya. like i said weights/values ;)
[03:42] <sysop2> well nice talking to you. but does anyone know about running WD quick view in wine with a firewire drive?
[03:42] <toolazyforaname> lol
[03:42] <sysop2> I am just worried I will screw up my drive or something I just want to check the temp and there does not seem to be anyother way. hddtemp cant find it.
[03:43] <sun_warrior> does any one know  in dual boot to change windows without  loosing ubuntu?
[03:43] <toolazyforaname> sun_warrior: is ubuntu on the drive now?
[03:43] <toolazyforaname> and do you have a second drive you could use?
[03:43] <sun_warrior> ss i have seperate partion for windows and ubuntu
[03:44] <sun_warrior> At present i am using windows
[03:44] <bornagain> night all
[03:45] <toolazyforaname> change windows -- you mean like from 7-8?
[03:47] <sun_warrior> ??
[03:48] <toolazyforaname> sun_warrior: what do you mean `to change windows'
[03:49] <sun_warrior> Installing the OS again on the windows partion formating the old one...
[03:49] <toolazyforaname> upon installation, windows nukes linux
[03:49] <toolazyforaname> i do not know of any workaround
[03:50] <sun_warrior> oh if i change windows then i'll loose Linux too but i have lots of my work in ubuntu
[03:51] <eeee> you can probably use a live cd to reinstall grub
[03:51] <toolazyforaname> sun_warrior: do you have a secondary drive you can install windows to?
[03:51] <sysop2> how big is your linux partition?
[03:51] <sun_warrior> ss
[03:52] <sun_warrior> it's of 70 GB partition ext4
[03:52] <sysop2> ok, go get at 64gb thumb drive. and partimage the partition to it, partedmagic or the parted boot iso.
[03:52] <sysop2> then do your windows stuff
[03:53] <sysop2> then reinstall linux, since the partition will be the same size once its install you can use partiimage to overwrite the clean install with your old install
[03:54] <sysop2> 64gb thumgs are like $30 now.
[03:54] <sysop2> or just use an external drive you have laying around.
[03:55] <sun_warrior> ok thank u
[03:55] <rex_> I am getting Unable to open XAuthority file "/home/ubuntu/.Xauthority when trying to open teamviewer
[03:55] <rex_> xlde is my desktop environment
[03:56] <sysop2> also clonezilla has partimage as well just exit out of the menu.
[03:57] <eeee> OR... reinstall grub
[03:57] <eeee> :D
[03:57] <eeee> nighty
[03:57] <toolazyforaname> would reinstalling grub work?
[03:58] <toolazyforaname> after overwriting the new partition that is
[04:00] <rex_> I am getting Unable to open XAuthority file "/home/ubuntu/.Xauthority when trying to open teamviewer xlde is my desktop environment
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> rex_: you trying from other user or something?
[04:01] <sysop2> well I dont trust windows not to screw with my partitions during install,  but that way also works if you want to go to a bigger driver but you make your new partition slightly bigger than the old one, partimage the old install then use gparted or parted to grow the partiton to the full size of the drive.
[04:01] <sysop2> driver=drive
[04:01] <sysop2> I catn type tongith for some reason
[04:02] <rex_> yes, as ubuntu user
[04:03] <sysop2> and it saves you having to mess with grub(ugh)
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> rex_: try make a new user and start teamviewer from there to test
[04:04] <rex_> ok
[04:06] <sysop2> I took one drive that I had a full intall on it, partimaged it, setup a raid 10, made a slightly bigger partition that the one drive, install linux, partimaged the the old drive onto the new install, then I had run something called "fix kernal" or "kernel fix" to get it boot and boom it was done.  without losing my original install.
[04:06] <sysop2> and then used parted to expand it to the full size of the raid 19
[04:06] <sysop2> 10
[04:07] <sysop2> raid 10
[04:08] <sysop2> the "fix kernel" thing was because of the software raid 10, I have done it plenty of times onto a single drive without having to do that.
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> sysop2: plz use this channel for support only
[04:09] <sysop2> well fine then ttyl
[04:10] <cloudrf> sysop
[04:12] <cloudrf> all others join me in #linux-friends
[04:16] <logavanc> Hello all!  I was hoping to get some help with a quick question that is eluding me on Google...
[04:18] <logavanc> I am trying to understand why there is a difference between the output of a mount command on Fedora vs Ubuntu.  Specifically, "tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs" in Fedora, and "none on /run/shm type tmpfs" in Ubuntu.
[04:19] <logavanc> I found a Stack Exchange answer that called the first field the "fs_spec", but I don't understand why in Ubuntu it is called "none".
[04:22] <JordanJ2> Hi all, I'm running 14.04 and my screen goes grainy for a few seconds anywhere from 10 minutes to  few hours
[04:22] <JordanJ2> Only happens for a second or so
[04:44] <murlidhar> how to limit the upload speed ?
[04:44] <murlidhar> can it be done
[04:45] <agent_white> murlidhar: http://askubuntu.com/questions/776/how-i-can-limit-download-upload-bandwidth
[04:45] <agent_white> Otherwise, if you want it to apply to ALL machines in your LAN, do it in your router.
[04:46] <murlidhar> agent_white: hmmm
[04:47] <murlidhar> agent_white: i thought it would be easy doing on the desktop. but i wonder how to revert back to unlimited bandwidth speed using the trickle
[04:47] <agent_white> murlidhar: This _is_ the easy route ;)
[04:48] <Artemis3> trickle is app based tho, and not all apps work
[04:48] <super> just install windows!
[04:48] <murlidhar> super: :p never. the last time i used one was in 2007 :p
[04:49] <murlidhar> BSODss
[04:52] <murlidhar> agent_white: trickle -u 150 firefox
[04:52] <murlidhar> agent_white: is it how it works ?
[04:53] <agent_white> murlidhar: to limit upload limit... `trickle -uSomeUploadSpeedHere firefox`
[04:54] <murlidhar> agent_white: i was wrong ?
[04:54] <agent_white> murlidhar: No, you were right! :)
[04:54] <agent_white> murlidhar: Just clarifying. http://monkey.org/~marius/trickle/trickle.1.txt
[04:54] <murlidhar> trickle -u (upload limit in KB/s) -d (download limit in KB/s) application
[04:54] <agent_white> murlidhar: Correct!
[04:56] <murlidhar> talks about standalone mode hmmmm
[05:01] <skilz> How do I make a bootable windows 7 usb stick?
[05:04] <Abhijit> skilz, ##windows
[05:04] <skilz> I want to do it in Linux buddy
[05:04] <cfhowlett> skilz this is ubuntu support.  UBUNTU.
[05:04] <skilz> Yes
[05:04] <skilz> I need to create it in UBUNTU
[05:04] <skilz> I don't think it's a hybrid iso, dd didn't work.
[05:05] <mojach> If you got an iso image just dd it
[05:05] <Abhijit> skilz, best of luck.
[05:05] <skilz> Add it?
[05:05] <skilz> How?
[05:05] <mojach> Then what Abhijit said
[05:05] <skilz> I formatted the stick to ntfs
[05:05] <pete__> Any idea how can is create a customized filesystem?
[05:05] <skilz> Ur useless
[05:05] <Abhijit> pete__, as in?
[05:05] <cfhowlett> skilz insults get you ignored - consider your conduct.
[05:06] <pete__> Abhjit, i wan ubuntu to boot into my application
[05:06] <Abhijit> ??
[05:06] <Abhijit> pete__, what is your application?
[05:06] <pete__> Image processing application
[05:07] <cfhowlett> pete__ I'm on xubuntu, so it's a bit different, but you can set your system to autostart an application at boot.
[05:07] <Insom> I like applications
[05:09] <Abhijit> pete__, http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1c6ogu/linux_kiosk_solutions/ http://www.webconverger.com/ http://openkiosk.sourceforge.net/ and http://www.genkiosk.com/?gclid=CLTu4reT2L8CFRUVjgodoxwAWA
[05:09] <Abhijit> !pm | pet2001_
[05:09] <Abhijit> pete__, ^^
[05:09] <pete__> Sure abhijit
[05:09] <pete__> thx
[05:09] <Abhijit> pete__, see those 4 links i gave above
[05:10] <CharlesIC> hi friends
[05:10] <CharlesIC> please help
[05:10] <JordanJ2> Hi, Does anyone know a screenshot tool I can use to upload to a webserver via SFTP other then ScreenCloud?
[05:10] <CharlesIC> i bought a new HD because my other was going bad. im currently booting on an ubuntu live dvd
[05:10] <cloudrf> hey charles
[05:11] <mojach> CharlesIC: And you want to image your current drive or?
[05:11] <CharlesIC> well, i created similar partitions
[05:12] <CharlesIC> as both are 1TB
[05:12] <CharlesIC> so im using rsync
[05:12] <mojach> CharlesIC: I would say use dd to mirror the exact data
[05:12] <CharlesIC> or would it have made more sense to make an image?
[05:12] <CharlesIC> well, i'm already about 1/2 done now
[05:12] <CharlesIC> at any rate
[05:12] <CharlesIC> so my issue is, i read that it's better to have a GPT partition map
[05:13] <CharlesIC> so i created that on the new HD, but the thing is, although i created the volumes to mirror the old HD, the new HD only shows one partition when you do fdisk /dev/sdb
[05:13] <CharlesIC> whereas the old one shows 2 when you do fdisk /dev/sda
[05:13] <CharlesIC> both drives have a LV with 3 partitions - home, root, swap
[05:14] <super> RAID 1
[05:15] <CharlesIC> mojach, why does the new HD, with fdisk, not show the LV with fdisk, but the old one does?
[05:15] <super> vgdisplay?
[05:16] <CharlesIC> oh, lv tools sees it
[05:16] <super> CharlesIC, ld /dev/sd*
[05:16] <mojach> CharlesIC: did you create it?
[05:16] <CharlesIC> im just wondering why
[05:16] <CharlesIC> mojach, yes, i have 3 partitions in the LV on the new HD, just like the old LV
[05:16] <super> CharlesIC, if you like redundancy I say use RAID 1
[05:16] <CharlesIC> right now, im rsyncing from home on old HD LV to home on new HD LV
[05:16] <CharlesIC> i dont want redundancy
[05:16] <CharlesIC> the old HD Is failing
[05:17] <mojach> shows in /proc/part?
[05:17] <CharlesIC> i guess my question is, if partition table is GPT, does it display diff than msdos?
[05:17] <super> signs of dying hard drive is also a sign of bad PSU
[05:17] <super> you got a PSU tester?
[05:17] <Insom> true
[05:17] <Insom> and a bad psu is usually a sign of a bad cap
[05:18] <Insom> I'm not sure what a bad cap is a sign of though
[05:18] <CharlesIC> someone else who had the same hard drive had it die after about 2 years
[05:18] <CharlesIC> that's exactly what's happening to me
[05:18] <CharlesIC> at any rate
[05:18] <mojach> CharlesIC: Desktop drive? running 24/7?
[05:18] <CharlesIC> cat /proc/partitions shows sda1 sda2 and sdb1 and sdb2
[05:18] <Insom> ahh
[05:18] <CharlesIC> mojach, yeah
[05:18] <Insom> 24/7 drive that isn't THAT bad
[05:18] <mojach> CharlesIC: I hope you got a NAS drive or even enterprise for the new one
[05:19] <Insom> 5 years is what I'd expect with NORMAL use
[05:19] <super> what's the temp on your cpu, gpu, northbridge?
[05:19] <CharlesIC> ok, im moving to a new HD
[05:19] <CharlesIC> please just help me do that before we look at anything with the rest of the computer
[05:19] <super> CharlesIC, build a low power PC check out AMD athlon 5350 25watts TDP
[05:19] <CharlesIC> the hard drive was beginning to fail with bad blocks
[05:19] <CharlesIC> ive accepted that
[05:19] <CharlesIC> im not building another PC!
[05:19] <CharlesIC> good grief!
[05:20] <lemonsparrow> what is wrong with this script
[05:20] <lemonsparrow> if [ "${OSTYPE#darwin}" != "$OSTYPE"  ]
[05:20] <lemonsparrow> 	echo "Works"
[05:20] <lemonsparrow> else
[05:20] <lemonsparrow> 	echo "No"
[05:20] <lemonsparrow> fi
[05:20] <super> amd athlon 5350 $60, MSI AM1 $34.99
[05:20] <ahoneybun> s
[05:20] <BlackWeb> If you want a command to execute shouldn't /etc/rc.local be the file to place the command in?  When I use to use 12.04 it worked but now when I'm trying to restore my iptables on bootup the command in /etc/rc.local isnt restoring them
[05:27] <jnhghy> Hi, I've installed a while ago openerp7 and from the first update they release, the update manager keeps showing that I need to update opener, I did it for many times but even after I just update the update manager still shows it there.... is there anything I can do.
[05:27] <jnhghy> ?
[05:27] <lemonsparrow> how to check if string starts with "abc" in shell script ?
[05:27] <cfhowlett> jnhghy see openerp7 for openerp support.  doesn't seem to be an ubuntu issue
[05:30] <jnhghy> cfhowlett: they refereed me here as the update manager from ubuntu is the one showing the update...
[05:31] <jnhghy> cfhowlett: I'll uninstall it ... I don't even use it ... :D
[05:31] <cfhowlett> jnhghy sudo apt-get purge openerp7         then run apt-get autoremove to kill unneeded packages
[05:31] <jnhghy> cfhowlett:thanks :)-
[05:32] <cfhowlett> jnhghy happy2help
[05:42] <Insom> so does anyone here play with qemu?
[05:43] <RahulAN> Insom, yes i did, but failed
[05:43] <RahulAN> it is eating lot more resources and making my netbook slow.
[05:43] <Insom> yeah I've been researching
[05:44] <RahulAN> which os you want to run there?
[05:44] <Insom> I want to attempt to run a windows environment
[05:44] <RahulAN> So better move to virtual box
[05:44] <Insom> with passthrough to my gpu
[05:44] <Insom> nope
[05:45] <RahulAN> and if Android you want than geanymotion is the best i will say :)
[05:45] <Insom> vfio
[05:45] <Insom> used it, its nice
[05:45] <RahulAN> yes its awsome
[05:45] <Insom> but vfio seems to be my only recourse
[05:46] <skilz> How do I share a folder on my computer so my girlfriend can access the files through the network on her win7 laptop?
[05:46] <Insom> bare metal gpu access
[05:46] <Insom> umm samba?
[05:46] <Insom> skilz...
[05:47] <RahulAN> Insom, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37D2bRsthfI  check this
[05:48] <RahulAN> its wonderful
[05:48] <Insom> seen that video 12 times now
[05:48] <Insom> the thing is the nvidia vid cards are hit and miss right now
[05:49] <RahulAN> hahaha :)
[05:49] <Insom> I've not attempted yet, so you know
[05:49] <RahulAN> carry on with your trials :) luck for you
[05:49] <Insom> not tonight, I'll give a go tomorrow
[05:50] <Insom> I can't find ANY documentation on my current card
[05:50] <Insom> I'm running dual gt750m cards
[05:51] <RahulAN> great ..
[05:51] <Insom> BUT devoting my HDD to linux with a vm for windows would be awesome
[05:52] <Insom> I wouldn't have to be concerned about how much HDD to devote to either side
[05:52] <Insom> I have plenty of hardware for both side
[05:52] <Insom> sides
[05:57] <Insom> ugh :(
[05:57] <Insom> my processor doesn't support VT-d
[05:59] <atul> ping
[05:59] <Insom> pong
[06:12] <agent_white> boop
[06:14] <anon_> My CPU usage seems to be at 100% at all times. The application taking up the most time is bash, around 85% right now, but the only application running in it is irssi. No other application is running right now and this is a fresh install of the system.
[06:14] <anon_> The terminal emulator is Terminator.
[06:15] <wheatthin> anon_, can you trace the tree as in which bash script is running?
[06:15] <anon_> wheatthin: How do I do that?
[06:15] <anon_> wheatthin: Only irssi is running at the moment.
[06:15] <wheatthin> anon_, I use htop..
[06:16] <anon_> wheatthin: One moment.
[06:16] <wheatthin> anon_, no, the only "foreground" app may be irssi..
[06:16] <wheatthin> but definitely not the only one running
[06:16] <anon_> wheatthin: Ok well htop also says that the /bin/bash command is taking up a ton of cpu. What exactly am I looking for now?
[06:17] <wheatthin> well in htop, you can select a tree view.. usually it'll branch downward and show you the culprit
[06:18] <wheatthin> are you in console mode only?
[06:18] <wheatthin> with the mouse enabled, you can select the "command" column and it'll tree view from the root process
[06:19] <anon_> wheatthin: Yes. I trace the command and a ton of unfriendly output appears.
[06:19] <agent_white> anon_: http://superuser.com/questions/174660/why-is-the-cpu-usage-reported-by-top-in-linux-over-100
[06:19] <agent_white> anon_: ie - Divide that percentage by your total cores.
[06:20] <agent_white> or
[06:20] <agent_white> anon_: http://superuser.com/questions/457624/why-is-the-top-command-showing-a-cpu-usage-of-799
[06:20] <agent_white> anon_: TLDR; use `htop`, not `top`
[06:20] <anon_> agent_white: But I'm not getting a cpu usage above 100?
[06:21] <agent_white> anon_: "My CPU usage seems to be at 100% at all times."
[06:21] <agent_white> anon_: I would still recommend the same.
[06:21] <agent_white> Checkout htop, and see what happens.
[06:21] <anon_> agent_white: That's what I've been using...
[06:22] <agent_white> anon_: Oh wow! I read wrong! Sorry!
[06:22] <wheatthin> so how many cpu cores do you have in your computer?
[06:23] <agent_white> anon_: And what does top show compared to htop?
[06:23] <anon_> 1 core
[06:23] <wheatthin> anon_ are you using i386?
[06:24] <wheatthin> 32bit?
[06:24] <anon_> no
[06:24] <anon_> 64 bit
[06:24] <wheatthin> older gen cpu?
[06:24] <anon_> nope
[06:24] <wheatthin> Umm, it has to be. .lol one core, or one cpu? most 64bit (new ones) are at least dual core
[06:24] <anon_> it's a virtual machine
[06:25] <wheatthin> ahh.. well then that makes a difference
[06:25] <wheatthin> do you have vmware-tools or virtualbox additions installed?
[06:25] <anon_> wheatthin: yup
[06:25] <anon_> vbox guest additions is installed
[06:25] <wheatthin> and how much ram is alotted?
[06:26] <anon_> wheatthin: 5gb
[06:26] <wheatthin> 5gb of ram to a single core vbox machine? hmm
[06:27] <wheatthin> anyways, vbox additions is installed, does this cpu support VT-x?
[06:27] <anon_> wheatthin: Well my system has 32 gb of ram
[06:27] <wheatthin> very nice..
[06:27] <anon_> wheatthin: I don't think so
[06:27] <wheatthin> I'd like 32gb of ram, but fb-dimms are expensive
[06:28] <anon_> wheatthin: it's a mac, so it was very expensive to begin with
[06:28] <anon_> wheatthin: Anyways, perhaps it does have VT-x, let me check
[06:28] <wheatthin> yeah, mine is a dual quad core xeon server.. was at one time expensive too :P
[06:28] <agent_white> anon_: I got disconnected. But are you sure you have a 1core CPU? It must be a 10yearold+ computer.
[06:28] <agent_white> If that is the case.
[06:29] <wheatthin> agent_white, it's a single core vbox with 5gb of ram
[06:29] <agent_white> "Multi-core processors were developed in the early 2000s by Intel".
[06:29] <anon_> wheatthin: Ok apparently it does have VT-x, and it's enabled
[06:29] <agent_white> wheatthin: For sure?
[06:29] <agent_white> wheatthin: A simple make/model would help to prove this.
[06:30] <anon_> wheatthin: Perhaps I should just give the machine another core, see if that helps out?
[06:30] <wheatthin> anon_, and it's enabled in virtualbox as well?
[06:30] <anon_> wheatthin: Yes.
[06:30] <wheatthin> anon_, I'm sure it won't hurt
[06:30] <anon_> wheatthin: OSX is utilizing 8 cores, so perhaps I can give it one more?
[06:30] <wheatthin> yup
[06:31]  * agent_white sighs
[06:31] <wheatthin> anon_, plus osx is utilizing your gpu for some stuff too, so yeah
[06:31] <agent_white> "in a virtualmachine" would have been helpful from the start.
[06:31] <anon_> agent_white: Said that already
[06:31] <anon_> wheatthin: Thanks for the help, I've got to restart. See you.
[06:31] <wheatthin> anon_ he had been disconnected.. be nice :)
[06:31] <agent_white> anon_: Oh sorry, must have missed it. When I was here you said 1 CPU... without mentioning VM.
[06:31] <agent_white> ;)
[06:32] <agent_white> wheatthin: Hehe I'd rather have him lash back then some others who refuse to paste direct error messages. ;P
[06:32] <agent_white> "Oh yeah... the error was mispelled as I saw..."
[06:33] <tarelerulz> I have an 4.4.2 Android phone and  It use MTP , ptp and USB 3 none of those options work.  It should an error the other day ,but it worked.    Any have you have an idea what I should do
[06:33] <agent_white> Well...
[06:34] <agent_white> wheatthin: http://serverfault.com/questions/346410/cpu-utilization-over-100-in-linux-system
[06:34] <agent_white> ' virtual machines can dynamically alter the CPU capacity in response to the needs of the VM. I have seen a single process showing up as using 9999% CPU in top from within a VM. The advice given by VMWare about this is "Don't trust metrics measured from within the VM".  '
[06:34] <agent_white> :/
[06:34] <agent_white> Well... guess he'll wonder why the IRC protocol is so intense on his CPU for awhile. ;D
[06:34] <wheatthin> agent_white, yes, but if VT-x is enabled, I guess it has direct access and thus doesn't have that problem
[06:34] <agent_white> wheatthin: Oh no shit?"
[06:34] <wheatthin> ahh language plz
[06:35] <agent_white> Sorry!
[06:35] <agent_white> wheatthin: Do you have a link for me to follow? -- May be able to find it shortly here though.
[06:35] <wheatthin> vt-x? intel cpu's
[06:35] <wheatthin> Umm one second
[06:36] <wheatthin> http://askubuntu.com/questions/256792/how-do-i-enable-hardware-virtualization-technology-vt-x-for-use-in-virtualbox
[06:36] <apb1963> I'd like to install a package from a ppa, but I'm concerned about whether it will potentially overwrite/upgrade system libraries and/or other files, thereby breaking my system.  Here is the list of files it wants to play with http://paste.ubuntu.com/7834339/  How can I determine whether or not its safe to install this package?
[06:36] <wheatthin> ppa's will break some things if unmanaged
[06:36] <apb1963> ubuntu 12.04
[06:36] <wheatthin> !ppa
[06:36] <agent_white> wheatthin: Thank ye!
[06:37] <apb1963> wheatthin: consequently, the reason I'm asking the question.
[06:37] <wheatthin> !ppa-purge apb1963
[06:37] <agent_white> wheatthin: Question... did you know that off the top of your head? The link you gave me has nothing to do with metrics in a VM. Yet is still very useful.
[06:37] <apb1963> please don't purge me
[06:38] <wheatthin> lolol
[06:38] <Beldar> sudo apt-get autoremove apb1963
[06:39] <wheatthin> lol @ Beldar
[06:39] <apb1963> purging the ppa is not the issue... purging the libraries it upgrades after installing the package is the issue... especially when it's a library half the system depends on.  Like libqt4core
[06:39] <apb1963> Beldar: cut that out
[06:40] <wheatthin> yes, you purge the thing, and you sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:40] <wheatthin> update*.. then upgrade
[06:40] <Beldar> apb1963, All your asking and want is not supported here, as well a finite answer is impossible. ;)
[06:40] <wheatthin> should clean it
[06:40] <apb1963> wheatthin: and that will reverse the upgrade?
[06:41] <wheatthin> you can also check out ppa-purge's options.. might be detailed info
[06:42] <apb1963> wheatthin: something installed  *** 4:4.8.2+dfsg-2ubuntu1~precise1~ppa6 0 and I'm building a new disk... I don't want it to happen again.
[06:42] <wheatthin> but for future references, don't use PPA's
[06:42] <wheatthin> or use them at your own risk
[06:42] <wheatthin> then upgrade to 14.04 :)
[06:43] <apb1963> wheatthin: I'm trying to minimize my risk by trying to find out whether the list of files it intends to install is safe.
[06:43] <wheatthin> no, it's not.
[06:43] <apb1963> wheatthin: eventually, I will.  But that day is not today.
[06:43] <wheatthin> they'll require modified or updated versions that puts our versions in the repo out of wack, which is why it's not supported
[06:44] <apb1963> wheatthin: that's a generic answer, not based on the specific list I've supplied... right?
[06:45] <wheatthin> apb1963, yes, that's just about as generic yet specific enough to what you're going to get from here.
[06:45] <wheatthin> use ppa-purge.. hopefully it'll untweak the unmanage packages, and then set things right
[06:45] <sexy> Suka sex chat
[06:45] <wheatthin> if not, I'd use it anyways, and upgrade
[06:45] <ddssc> ubuntu just went pearshaped on me... can't even open display settings. 14.04 lts btw... how do I open display settings from terminal??
[06:46] <wheatthin> sexy, I'd like it if you changed your name to something more family friendly
[06:46] <wheatthin> and topic
[06:47] <ddssc> updates are supposed to keep your system up to date, not break it ... why I love open source..
[06:48] <STMelon> family friendly on IRC? rofl
[06:48] <wheatthin> ddssc, unmanaged, unofficial updates can be manipulated and broken.
[06:48] <wheatthin> thanks for the input tho
[06:49] <ddssc> wheatthin,  unofficial ? I only click install when the VERY OFFICIAL ubuntu popup asks me to
[06:49] <agent_white> Hehehe. If you are capable of connecting to IRC... curse-words should be second-nature.
[06:49] <agent_white> ;P
[06:49] <wheatthin> no, family friendly in #ubuntu.
[06:49] <wheatthin> if not, you're more than welcome to find help elsewhere
[06:49] <ddssc> if you use open source you are guaranteed to say fuck a lot
[06:49] <STMelon> this is a tech/support IRC. mostly techys and ppl needing help come here. this surely is not a FAMILY oriented IRC network
[06:49] <agent_white> ddssc: Hey now! That's Linus' favorite word!
[06:49] <dominik> i love guys and ubu
[06:50] <apb1963> what will give me a list of what packages I have installed from which unsupported ppas?
[06:50] <STMelon> i usually do wheatthin ... i know how to use google, and rarely, IF ever even talk here :P
[06:50] <dominik> connect #xdf
[06:50] <ddssc> lets face it if your kids are capable of connecting to irc, they've seen things online way worse than curse words..
[06:50] <agent_white> ^ tldr
[06:50] <wheatthin> that's a mute issue ddssc
[06:51] <STMelon> well when kids are having sex way before they know IRC exists? i agree ddssc
[06:51] <ddssc> on another notice. can someone tell me why my display settings have miraculously dissaperaed from my menu and why i can't access them?
[06:51] <agent_white> STMelon: language
[06:51] <ddssc> or rather how do I access my display settings from terminal?
[06:51] <STMelon> anyways, sex is a bad word? LOL
[06:51] <STMelon> typical of the ubuntu children here
[06:51] <ddssc> because ubuntu suddenly decided to hide half the stuff I open because I don't have dual monitors plugged in, but I can't do anything about it
[06:51] <wheatthin> no, I said it's not family oriented, come on now, grow up.
[06:53] <ddssc> ...
[06:53] <agent_white> wheatthin: Hehe we're just giving you a rough time. ;)
[06:53] <agent_white> Keeping it respectable is alrighty.
[06:54] <ts9i> how does anacron determine the hour to run daily or weekly jobs?
[06:54] <wheatthin> anyways, display problems..  areyou in console?
[06:55] <ddssc> CAN SOMEONE PLEASE ANDWER MY QUESTION?
[06:55] <ddssc> or rather how do I access my display settings from terminal?
[06:55] <super> ddssc, did you install your video driver?
[06:55] <ddssc> super, yea
[06:55] <super> well type startx
[06:55] <Deepspeed> ddssc, try xrandr?
[06:56] <ddssc> Deepspeed,  http://pastebin.com/ttFUNmUF
[06:57] <ddssc> super, on another note, where do I check that?
[06:57] <ddssc> my display settings have dissapeared from all menus and I can't access the global settings
[06:57] <super> virtualmachine?
[06:57] <ts9i> anacron is picking 8AM as teh time to run weekly jobs, on a computer that's up all day. I'd prefer if it did weekly jobs when I'm not logged in. Any way other than getting rid of anacron?
[06:57] <ddssc> super, nope
[06:58] <wheatthin> ts9i, probably a script that says to do while mouse is idle for so long
[06:58] <somsip> ts9i: which job?
[06:58] <wheatthin> after a certain time
[06:58] <ddssc> when I call gnome-control-center I don't see display settings?
[06:59] <ts9i> somsip: weekly jobs include fstrim which takes around 20-30 minutes for me, which would be fine as long as it ran while I'm not trying to work
[06:59] <wheatthin> You don't have a icon that says displays ddssc ?
[06:59] <ddssc> wheatthin, NO, ITS WHAT IM SAYING THE WHOLE TIME
[06:59] <ddssc> it just dissapeared for no apparent reason, cant access my display settings or anything
[07:00] <somsip> ts9i: edit /etc/crontab and change the hour for /etc/cron.weekly jobs
[07:00] <ddssc> which is lovely because I've work to do and i have to fuck around with ubuntu
[07:00] <ts9i> somsip: weekly jobs are supposedly setup to run on 6:47 on Sundays. It actually ran around 8AM today (Tuesday) due to anacron.
[07:01] <ilham> hello
[07:01] <ts9i> somsip: anacron does not use the exact times from crontab, that's for sure. It uses anacrontab which only has a "weekly" note and no mention of teh hour
[07:02] <wheatthin> ddssc,  gnome-control-center -l
[07:02] <wheatthin> does it show in the term?
[07:03] <wheatthin> ddssc, stop cursing plz
[07:03] <somsip> ts9i: maybe some helpful info here - looks like sleep and CPU demand affects when it is run http://is.gd/tcvNau
[07:04] <hashworks> Is there any way to use UTF8 and 256 Colors in the headless console (Ctrl+Alt+F1 etc)?
[07:04] <ikonia> hashworks: the fact that it's headless makes no difference
[07:04] <ikonia> hashworks: the client is what dictates if you can use utf/colour
[07:05] <ddssc> wheatthin, http://pastebin.com/Genm9JPk
[07:05] <ddssc> wheatthin, Im usually not cursing, but open source has a way of making me do it
[07:05] <hashworks> So it should be possible? which client is used by ubuntu without any desktop manager ikonia?
[07:06] <ikonia> hashworks: none, you have to install one
[07:06] <ikonia> hashworks: or - if you are not connecting from the ubuntu machine, you need to install a client on your client machine
[07:07] <feyisayo_> Hello everyone. Does anyone know how to install Elementary OS alongside Ubuntu 14.04?
[07:07] <hashworks> No, I'm not connecting to it - I'm on the pc where ubuntu is installed and turning off lightdm.
[07:07] <ikonia> feyisayo_: just a standard dual boot linux setup
[07:07] <hashworks> And then console only starts up, as expected
[07:08] <ikonia> feyisayo_: I advise against this though
[07:08] <ikonia> hashworks: so you want utf and colour support on the console ?
[07:08] <boss1234100> hello
[07:08] <hashworks> In gnome terminal its not a problem
[07:08] <ikonia> hashworks: not actually on a client, you want it on the console
[07:09] <feyisayo_> Thanks ikonia. I was hoping to have it as a shell option in the login page
[07:09] <boss1234100> can someone help me
[07:09] <ts9i> somsip: seems it's caused by /etc/cron.d/anacron running anacron at 7:30 in the morning.
[07:09] <ikonia> feyisayo_: so you don't want a dual boot - you just want the desktop enviornment
[07:09] <fidel_> boss1234100: start by describing your problem first ;)
[07:09] <boss1234100> well
[07:10] <boss1234100> fidel_: my teamspeak that i installed in terminal wont open
[07:10] <feyisayo_> ikonia: that's right
[07:10] <boss1234100> dont know why
[07:11] <ikonia> feyisayo_: you'd probably be better talking to the elementrary guys on this as it's their packages/ppa and to intergrate them into a standard ubuntu install without any damage
[07:11] <ikonia> feyisayo_: I strongly advise you to look into what they change as it maybe hard to put things back if you're not careful
[07:11] <fidel_> boss1234100: well - never used TS on ubuntu myself. try starting it from terminal and check the output - if it gives some
[07:11] <feyisayo_> Thanks ikonia
[07:12] <feyisayo_> ikonia: I'll give that a shot
[07:12] <hashworks> ikonia: Sort of. Colors aren't working at all in the "headless" console. As I see now UTF8 works but it's using a different font, trough. Is there a way to enable colors and a different font?
[07:12] <boss1234100> ok
[07:13] <ikonia> hashworks: please showme the output of "echo $TERM" please
[07:13] <hashworks> ikonia: xterm-256color, as set in the .bashrc file.
[07:13] <boss1234100> let me figure how to open it
[07:13] <ikonia> hashworks: so that should be showing colour
[07:14] <ikonia> hashworks: what colour are you expecting ?
[07:14] <ikonia> (expecting that you're not getting)
[07:14] <hashworks> Any color. Headless console is only black n' white
[07:14] <hashworks> Gnome terminal shows 256 trough
[07:15] <ikonia> please run "ls -l --color=auto"
[07:16] <hashworks> Shows simple blue n' green - seems like 8 or 16 colors work and everything else is black n' white because I'm trying to use 256 colors
[07:17] <ikonia> hashworks: thats the correct colours for ls
[07:17] <ikonia> what do you mean you're trying to use 256 colors, how do you know you're not using 256 colours now
[07:17] <ikonia> you've just seen that the console supports colours
[07:18] <hashworks> Because when I use the gnome console a cyan 256 color shows cyan, and the headless console shows white.
[07:18] <ikonia> a cyan 256 color ?
[07:18] <ikonia> hashworks: where ?
[07:18] <hashworks> TMUX bar
[07:18] <ikonia> hashworks: what command are you running in gnome terminal that looks different in the console
[07:19] <ikonia> is there any colour in your tmux setup
[07:19] <ikonia> I don't know how you've setup tmux so I can't comment
[07:20] <hashworks> for i in {16..21} {21..16} ; do echo -en "\e[38;5;${i}m#\e[0m" ; done ; echo
[07:20] <hashworks> this shows ########### in different blue colors
[07:20] <hashworks> In gnome terminal
[07:20] <hashworks> In the headless console it's just white.
[07:21] <boss1234100> anyone use teamspeak for ubuntu?
[07:21] <ikonia> hashworks: that suggests it may not support the full colour pallet then
[07:22] <ikonia> hashworks: although that could also be echo not being setup right
[07:22] <boss1234100> because i dont know why my teamspeak wont open
[07:22] <ikonia> hashworks: looks like echo should be fine as it is
[07:23] <hashworks> Yup, I guess the headless console is kind of simple/stable
[07:23] <hashworks> So a change of the font won't be possible as well I guess?
[07:24] <boss1234100> anyone help me out with teamspeak
[07:24] <Beldar> !details | boss
[07:24] <Beldar> boss1234100, ^^^^^^^
[07:25] <boss1234100> well my teamspeak wont open at all
[07:25] <boss1234100> i installed it in terminal
[07:25] <hashworks> Whats the output of strerr boss1234100?
[07:25] <boss1234100> output?
[07:25] <hashworks> Start it using the terminal
[07:26] <ikonia> hashworks: should be able to change the fonts
[07:26] <hashworks> Then it should output strout and strerr
[07:26] <hashworks> ikonia: At least something :)
[07:26] <ikonia> hashworks: I'll need to check but I thought it supported full colour configuratoin
[07:26] <ikonia> it may not be configured
[07:26] <boss1234100> umm i dont what to do
[07:26] <boss1234100> i just start 2 days ago lol
[07:27] <boss1234100> start
[07:28] <snadge> does ubuntu's built in vnc allow you to remotely log in to an existing session? eg.. screen sharing?
[07:28] <hashworks> boss1234100: Find the path of your teamspeak installation. Then start the ts3client_runscript.sh in Terminal. I'm not having it installed here, trough
[07:28] <hashworks> Try "locate ts3client_runscript.sh"
[07:28] <snadge> or do i need to use something like teamviewer for that.. except now teamviewer has disabled my login saying suspected commercial use :|
[07:28] <energizer> I'm using Dolphin gamecube emulator, and my cpu heats up reeeallly fast (>85C) despite my i7 3.4Ghz. I have a stock fan and no dedicated graphics card. What do you suggest I do first?
[07:29] <ikonia> energizer: ask in ##hardware
[07:29] <ikonia> energizer: not an OS problem
[07:29] <hashworks> ikonia: How is the console called when I use Ctrl+Alt+F1? Is "headless console" the right term? So I could google for some configuration.
[07:29] <energizer> ikonia: thanks
[07:29] <ikonia> hashworks: it's not "called"
[07:29] <hashworks> *named
[07:30] <ikonia> hashworks: look at the inittab, and you'll see it get setu
[07:30] <ikonia> setup
[07:30] <hashworks> Sry for my bad english ;)
[07:30] <ikonia> hashworks: english is fine
[07:30] <boss1234100> this correct?
[07:30] <boss1234100> sudo ts3client_runscript.sh
[07:30] <hashworks> You don't need to start it with root. Try bash ts3[...] boss1234100
[07:31] <boss1234100> am new to this sorry
[07:31] <hashworks> ikonia: What do you mean with inittab?
[07:31] <boss1234100> only been using linux for 2 days
[07:32] <energizer> ikonia: they seem to be speaking in russian in ##hardware.  is that typical?
[07:33] <energizer> nm
[07:33] <YamakasY> what do I need to add to my apt sources when I want to have the net installer available ?
[07:33] <hashworks> boss1234100: Did you located the file sucessfully?
[07:33] <hashworks> *locate
[07:33] <boss1234100> umm
[07:33] <boss1234100> dont know lol
[07:33] <boss1234100> i know its on my desktop
[07:33] <boss1234100> in a folder
[07:34] <hashworks> Do you know how to cd to that folder using your terminal?
[07:34] <boss1234100> umm no
[07:34] <boss1234100> just started on this 2 days ago
[07:37] <hashworks> Hm...You should try to read some beginner tutorials first and learn the most basic stuff. What's your first language?
[07:38] <fidel_> boss1234100: to change to another folder in Terminal you can use the command 'cd'. i.e. open a terminal and enter 'cd Desktop'
[07:38] <boss1234100> english
[07:38] <NilBud> boss1234100, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGGj3hc6R8Q&list=PLsMLAwgiqdxl5U6m9ZnefcfC0xncvLCL5
[07:38] <fidel_> boss1234100: this should move you from your home folder to your desktop folder in your terminal session
[07:38] <boss1234100> ok
[07:38] <hashworks> You can open a Terminal with Ctrl+Alt+T btw.
[07:39] <fidel_> from there its most likely another 'cd NAME OF YOUR TS FOLDER' command to jump to that one
[07:39] <boss1234100> after i do that
[07:39] <boss1234100> do i do cd again?
[07:39] <ddssc> wheatthin, Im usually not cursing, but open source has a way of making me do it
[07:39] <ddssc> when I call gnome-control-center I don't see display settings?
[07:40] <fidel_> If you reached your ts-folder: as a next step - use the 'ls' command to display the files in that folder in your terminal session
[07:41] <fidel_> it might sound complicated - but getting started with a terminal is somehow essential in linux - and its getting better over time ;)
[07:41] <jgvcv> hdhfc
[07:41] <boss1234100> well right now am just getting this
[07:41] <boss1234100> >
[07:42] <boss1234100> in the terminal
[07:42] <fidel_> boss1234100: the cmd 'pwd' outputs your current folder - if that helps to locate where you are right now ;)
[07:42] <joker_> fidel what distro you suggest for starters aside ubuntu and mint what all suggest?
[07:43] <boss1234100> well its not doing nothing lol
[07:43] <boss1234100> just did pwd
[07:43] <boss1234100> all i got was this >
[07:44] <fidel_> joker_: i dont know - i dont think there are that big differences. depends what you want to use it for most likely
[07:44] <subcool> what do you guys use for an IRC client, im using xchat.. and its ticking me off
[07:44] <boss1234100> am useing pidgin
[07:45] <fidel_> boss1234100: press ENTER. then enter: 'pwd' followed by ENTER. What is the output
[07:45] <joker_> so all are terminal wise equal...
[07:45] <fidel_> joker_: similar - one main diff is the package-management and default package-selection
[07:45] <joker_> if i learn use terminal on one i can use on all the same commands ?
[07:45] <fidel_> most yes
[07:46] <boss1234100> am getting the arrow thing again
[07:46] <hashworks> boss1234100: Your output of pwd is ">"?
[07:46] <boss1234100> yes
[07:46] <fidel_> see my package-manager example: you wont find "apt' on fedora - there it is replaced by 'yum' ..but overall main commands are same
[07:46] <joker_> ok so i just pick one that is game friendly with steam and all and than try use terminal
[07:46] <hashworks> Whats does your prompt (the thing before your enter anything) looks like?
[07:47] <boss1234100> NV57H:~$ 'pwd
[07:47] <hashworks> clear
[07:47] <fidel_> joker_: one big diff in distris is the amount of documentation & discussion you'll find in the web around that distri
[07:47] <hashworks> Remove the '
[07:48] <fidel_> joker_: i.e. arch has a great wiki - ubuntu has tons of beginner-guides ...there or tons of other minor differences. Hope that helps getting your question answered
[07:48] <FuzzyWhirlpool> boss1234100: You need to learn how to use shell.
[07:48] <boss1234100> ok that must have been the problem
[07:48] <boss1234100> i know
[07:48] <boss1234100> its this now
[07:48] <boss1234100> :~/Desktop$
[07:48] <hashworks> Whats the output of: ls
[07:48] <hashworks> ?
[07:49] <fidel_> boss1234100: as mentioned above: now use 'cd NAME-OF_YOUR_TS_FOLDER_ON_YOUR_DESKTOP'
[07:49] <joker_> thank you fidel_ a llot
[07:49] <boss1234100> ok just did
[07:49] <fidel_> or find out that name using 'ls'
[07:49] <boss1234100> am inside the folder
[07:49] <ben__> hello
[07:49] <boss1234100> /Desktop/TeamSpeak3-Client-linux_amd64$
[07:49] <fidel_> boss1234100: now get an overview of that folder using the 'ls' command once again ;)
[07:49] <fidel_> it should show the content
[07:50] <hashworks> Is there a ts3client_runscript.sh in the output of ls (aka in the folder)?
[07:50] <boss1234100> ok its showing
[07:50] <boss1234100> yes
[07:50] <hashworks> Run it by using "bash ts3client_runscript.sh".
[07:50] <boss1234100> i see the runscript
[07:51] <joker_> one more question i installed ubuntu and i remember 1 year ago i installed ubuntu as well and it added automaticaly good drivers for my ati card im not sure it did now
[07:51] <boss1234100> ok
[07:51] <boss1234100> the teamspeak opened
[07:51] <fidel_> boss1234100: wasnt that easy? ;)
[07:51] <boss1234100> yea
[07:52] <boss1234100> so how do i set it
[07:52] <boss1234100> to open just by double clicking it?
[07:52] <hashworks> I guess now he should try to create a .desktop file
[07:52] <fidel_> boss1234100: take yourself some time and niavigate around within your terminal. its really essential to get those commands mentioned before in your brain
[07:52] <fidel_> otherwise you'll having problems forever ;)
[07:52] <boss1234100> how do i make one
[07:53] <boss1234100>  for teamspeak?
[07:53] <hashworks> There are some good tutorials for .desktop files out there I think :)
[07:53] <boss1234100> ok
[07:54] <hashworks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[07:54] <boss1234100> am going to use that
[07:55] <fidel_> joker_: i guess starting: 'software-properties-gtk' might open an ui with a tab for additional drivers
[07:56] <joker_> thanks will search for that now
[07:57] <boss1234100> ubuntu works so much better for me than windows
[07:57] <boss1234100> lol
[07:57] <fidel_> boss1234100: be sure to learn 'apt' as well - its really helpful.
[07:57] <joker_> fidel  that you meant software center and graphical?
[07:57] <boss1234100> ok
[07:57] <fidel_> joker_: i guess starting: 'software-properties-gtk' might open an ui with a tab for additional drivers
[07:58] <fidel_> exactly that ;)
[07:58] <fidel_> isnt it opening up?
[07:59] <joker_> it have some things but nothing that would send me to drivers or such stuff
[07:59] <joker_> is there some terminal command mybe for ati driveers update
[07:59] <joker_> in ubuntu 14
[08:00] <joker_> sorry im the newbiest of all
[08:00] <joker_> im not joking
[08:01] <FuzzyWhirlpool> you are joker_ and you claim yourself not joking? You are so funny, joker_ !
[08:02] <joker_> well i will change nick...just want drivers for ati
[08:02] <joker_> and sound and video in ubuntu is nothing like in windows control panel
[08:03] <YamakasY> what is the difference between debian-installer and installer-amd64 ?
[08:03] <joker_> graphical ...is nothing about drivers also
[08:03] <trijntje> joker_: go to software & updates, then to the tab 'additional drivers'
[08:04] <joker_> so should i pick science and ingeniring lol.....thank you trijntje
[08:04] <trijntje> joker_: are you in the software center? You don't use the software center, you use system settings
[08:05] <trijntje> or you can search for software & updates directly from the Dash (hit the windows key)
[08:05] <joker_> yes i was in software center :/
[08:06] <anon1_> What is that advanced settings tool called where you can mess with Unity a bit more than usual?
[08:06] <trijntje> joker_: yeah, the drivers are hard to find in ubuntu. There used to be a special program to install drivers but it was removed, and now its hard to find unless you know where to look
[08:07] <trijntje> anon1_: unity tweak tool? Or compizconfig settings manager
[08:07] <NilBud> yea, unity tweak tool
[08:08] <anon1_> Thanks
[08:09] <joker_> trijntje so for install what they call propretary drivers ones good for games....thats hard now ? before was automatical kinda
[08:09] <trijntje> joker_: its not hard, but its hard to find if you dont know where to look
[08:09] <joker_> so what are chances i will get that work based on fact im new and want to play games
[08:09] <trijntje> joker_: 100%
[08:10] <trijntje> go to system settings -> Software & updates -> Additional drivers, click the one you want, done
[08:10] <joker_> i see you seem to know 100% what you talking about,,,ok thank you
[08:11] <trijntje> i've been using ubuntu a long time, so I know some things ;)
[08:12] <joker_> but there is no proprietary drivers in use....so means i have them not installed
[08:13] <joker_> in software update tab i got that info
[08:13] <trijntje> joker_: it says that there are no drivers available? It should list all available drivers
[08:13] <joker_> i also incliuded cannonical thingy
[08:14] <joker_> no additional drivers avalible.... and doesnt show what i have installed or what version
[08:14] <trijntje> joker_: have you tried any games? Sometimes ubuntu has good drivers by default, I can also play steam games on my pc without proprietary drivers
[08:15] <joker_> well i can try diablo 3 if it can run that i guess its ok driver
[08:16] <joker_> ok will give a shot....you know downloading huge game to figure out you have no drivers is normaly not funny
[08:16] <joker_> thank you for help and support and patience
[08:16] <trijntje> joker_: diablo doesnt run on ubuntu, as far as I know
[08:17] <joker_> it did run 1 year ago on my lap top
[08:17] <joker_> or i was so lucky...should ijust go install 12.4 ubuntu than
[08:18] <trijntje> joker_: it could work, but it could also be a violation of the EULA, and blizzard could ban your CD key
[08:18] <joker_> acer extensa 7620
[08:19] <joker_> i dont belive they would cause i waited 1h for them to answer on my call..they are busy lol
[08:20] <joker_> i go test drivers i let you know if works diablo 3 on ubuntu 14
[08:22] <kbroulik> Hi there, I was wondering, is there a way to downgrade the google-chrome-stable package? I want version 34 back :(
[08:26] <PotatoHead0077> Hello :) i am having troubles with my atheros card
[08:26] <PotatoHead0077> I have tried pretty much everything, including the "sudo echo "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1" > /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf" fix
[08:27] <PotatoHead0077> But my wireless connection is still horrid
[08:28] <PotatoHead0077> I have tried pretty much everything, including the "sudo echo "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1" > /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf" fix
[08:28] <PotatoHead0077>  But my wireless connection is still horrid :/
[08:28] <subcool> because you guys are actually ehlpful
[08:28] <subcool> i have win8 with kaspersky
[08:29] <subcool> im TRYING to secure my network a bit. more or less my stupid win8 machine. - i need to make it .. usable
[08:29] <subcool> i have shares on there i need to be viewable
[08:29] <subcool> hwo the freak do it do it
[08:30] <subcool> i freaking hate windows. really i do
[08:30] <PotatoHead0077> is there anyone who can help me with my atheros card problem?
[08:30] <PotatoHead0077> Get Ubuntu 14.04 LTS :P
[08:30] <subcool> yeah.. - cant
[08:30] <subcool> kinda
[08:30] <subcool> i have it
[08:30] <subcool> im on it
[08:30] <subcool> but- i have this shitbox laptop that has win8
[08:31] <pa> why "set as default" for choosing another application to open file types with does not work?
[08:31] <subcool> and i need to deal with it for amomoent
[08:31] <quattro_> is it possible to detect if sound is playing from the command line?
[08:31] <pa> i click it and nothing changes
[08:31] <pa> what's the problem?
[08:31] <somsip> quattro_: use aplay
[08:31] <subcool> id help potato - but... idk
[08:31] <saurav> how does ubuntu on acer notebook keeps booing into the shell rather than the system
[08:31] <PotatoHead0077> yea :/
[08:32] <subcool> saurav, because there is an error, and its crashing
[08:32] <subcool> saurav, check dmesg
[08:32] <Seveaz> saurav: graphics driver problems, X not installed or it's simply configured to do so
[08:32] <quattro_> somsip: thanks that should work :)
[08:32] <subcool> saurav, could be so many things..
[08:32] <Seveaz> if dmesg doesn't say anything useful, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:33] <subcool> saurav, my common prob for that is that /home is full
[08:33] <pa> and why in the world is handbrake the default handler for mp4, in 14.04?????
[08:33] <anon1_> Why does netcat hang forever when scanning a range of ports? If I scan port 22 (I know it's open), it returns immediately, but if I scan say, 21-25, it just hangs forever at the first one.
[08:33] <anon1_> here is my syntax: nc -zv 192.168.1.101 21-25
[08:33] <subcool> pa defautls are defaults.. just download mplayer or vlc
[08:34] <pa> i did download those
[08:34] <pa> but how to set them as default??
[08:34] <Seveaz> anon1_: -w3
[08:34] <pa> the bloody button does not work
[08:34] <subcool> anon1_, because there are r block, rejected or dropped commuications for that port and the computer is waiting for a result that wont occur
[08:34] <subcool> pa rightclick - set as defualt
[08:35] <pa> subcool, i did, but nothing changes
[08:35] <pa> subcool, that means the button does nt work
[08:35] <subcool> it works.. maybe a reboot
[08:36] <pa> i see
[08:36] <pa> are these defaults kept in some file?
[08:36] <subcool> yep
[08:36] <subcool> idk which though
[08:36] <pa> i see
[08:38] <subcool> my linux computer can not see the smb shares.. which make sesnse since im trying to secure my windows computer- but OMG
[08:38] <subcool> it says its not protected.. i do a lil tinking.. and its finally set..
[08:38] <subcool> now i cant setup simple shares.. OMG@!!!
[08:40] <Busserl> subcool: I recently had problems connecting a windows 8.1 client to a samba server.
[08:41] <subcool> Busserl, is very common.. windows sucks.. but- wtf?!
[08:41] <Busserl> It seemed like the same config worked before, maybe some defaults changed.
[08:41] <subcool> reboot a few times.. and turn off the firewall... nd tada
[08:41] <subcool> windows is just horrible.
[08:41] <subcool> but i need it
[08:41] <subcool> i have to know this shit.
[08:41] <subcool> but- AGGH!!
[08:42] <subcool> freaking win8
[08:42] <Busserl> well windows could connect fine from command line, but the Windows File explorer had issues with name resolution or something.
[08:43] <Busserl> If windows can't even see the shares, that is a different matter.
[08:43] <Busserl> that should work first
[08:44] <subcool> the win computer sees itsself
[08:44] <subcool> but thats it
[08:44] <subcool> so i know its firewall
[08:44] <subcool> but-- ugh
[08:44] <subcool> Ok.. so -- your kinda right
[08:44] <subcool> whats a actual good firewall for windows
[08:44] <subcool> im thinking too closed minded
[08:45] <Busserl> if windows thinks its network is something different than "private" it won't allow such connections by default, yes. Does it say "private" in network connections?
[08:45] <Busserl> You could change the firewall, or "fix" the network
[08:46] <subcool> idk what it says anymore
[08:46] <subcool> honestly
[08:46] <Busserl> Windows has its own needs for a network to be trusted. A gateway must be specified for example, its hard to find info about.
[08:46] <subcool> there is public, local and ... something
[08:47] <subcool> im really pushign to never use it agian
[08:47] <subcool> i need to find a job that allows that
[08:51] <Amaze-balls> Good Morning
[08:52] <subcool> never
[08:52] <subcool> you must answer the entry question.. .. whats the best windows firewall program.
[08:54] <linux> wo qu
[08:54] <cfhowlett> subcool ask ##windows.  this ain't it.
[08:55] <subcool> cfhowlett, i have
[08:55] <subcool> its windows-- whats ever helpful or smart about windows
[08:55] <linux> sha zi
[08:56] <k1l> !cn | linux
[08:56] <cfhowlett> subcool windows  support is off topic in this channel.  You know that.  Ask your ubuntu support questions or find windows support elsewhere.  win is NOT supported her.
[08:56] <subcool> thats not funny
[08:57] <cfhowlett> Amaze-balls greetings.  ask your ubuntu questions
[08:57] <linux> gfdhfdgh
[08:57] <subcool> im trying to ask smart people a question...
[08:57] <subcool> ive asked the alternative the same question... we all knw where that gets us
[08:57] <linux_ln> ,,,
[08:58] <subcool> its not like anyone is talking anyways
[08:58] <Amaze-balls> Hi, cfhowlett , I'm here to pay attention and to learn from your questions really :)
[08:58] <cfhowlett> !ot|subcool
[08:58] <subcool> seriously?
[08:58] <cfhowlett> !manual | maze-balls welcome.  that's one way to learn ubuntu.
[08:58] <ikonia> subcool: seriously
[08:58] <ikonia> subcool: so stop it now please.
[08:59] <Amaze-balls> I'm learning for my LPIC exams, so tech supporting others will help me familiarize with random parts of the ubuntu system. Plus I like to help others :)
[08:59] <cfhowlett> Amaze-balls http://www.linuxine.com/linuxbooks
[09:00] <subcool> ikonia, un-called for.
[09:00] <dan2003> any idea why a trusty minbase debootstrap would hang somewhere in boot process, before it starts networking and before it shows a console, with no visible info as to why on screen, even in recovery mode?
[09:00] <ikonia> subcool: enough
[09:00] <Amaze-balls> cfhowlett: Thats a pretty cool site. Thanks for that :) untill now Im still going through the IBM documentation, but they dont have any docs on the 102 exams though
[09:01] <cfhowlett> Amaze-balls one way to learn: make a virtual machine in virtualbox, install ubuntu 32 bit to that box, then proceed to break and fix it.  Have fun.
[09:02] <Vivekananda_y510> my windows 8 workgroup is WORKGROUP and tried to join it using this http://www.ubuntututorials.com/ubuntu-12-04-join-windows-workgroup/.  still dont see my computer on workgroup.
[09:03] <Amaze-balls> My focus at the moment is vi, sed, grep, tr, join, cut, paste and all the text streaming and fitlering tools. They are kind of a headache. But Im getting there.
[09:06] <hnlin> j #ubuntu
[09:07] <cfhowlett> hnlin you're in #ubuntu.   ask your questions
[09:19] <Rohan_m> hi
[09:19] <krejsi> Hi, I just installed ubuntu 14.04 64 bit on a server and now Im getting this when it tries to boot. "error: attempt to read or write outside of disk 'hd0' . Entering rescue mode... grub rescue> "
[09:20] <krejsi> the server has 4x 4TB harddrives configured into one virtual drive RAID 10
[09:20] <Rohan_m> I my trying to write a file with  PHP file but it says "permission denied"
[09:21] <Busserl> Rohan_m: that looks like an issue with php.ini.
[09:21] <ikonia> it's simple file system permissions
[09:21] <subcool> i would like to re-itterate my reasoning for asking this channel my question compared to those who dont sanctify security.
[09:21] <Busserl> I thought you'd have to specify directory permissions in php.ini as well.
[09:22] <Rohan_m> Busserl: why cause it writes file succesfully when i try to write in same directory
[09:22] <ikonia> Rohan_m: what EXACTLY are you doing
[09:23] <Rohan_m> ikonia: i was tryin to create a file in home directory of a user but i'm unable to do so
[09:23] <Busserl> I'll just add that I was talking about the paramater 'open_basedir =...' in php.ini.
[09:23] <ikonia> Rohan_m: what EXACTLY are you doing
[09:24] <Rohan_m> ikonia: what do you mean by exactly ?
[09:24] <ikonia> Rohan_m: I mean tell me EXACTLY what you are doing
[09:25] <Rohan_m> ikonia: oh its nothing i'm just experimenting php's fopen() function
[09:25] <ikonia> you can't ask for help - be told "tell me exactly" and then say "oh it's nothing
[09:26] <ikonia> Rohan_m: if you want help - you need to give people details,
[09:29] <Rohan_m> ikonia: Ok Here's the Exact Details of My problem I have a PC with Ubuntu , i have LAMP installed, in my /var/www/ i have a php file named "this.php" (Group:raj Owner :raj)   my php code wants to append some data to a file in raj's home directory file name "log.txt" (Group:raj Owner:raj) i am working on a error logging function() which creates logs and i have a analysis system made in C which will give graphical analysis on data based from log.txt
[09:30] <ikonia> Rohan_m: so where does the PHP come into it
[09:31] <Rohan_m> ikonia: i pass data from the web ---> to my PHP file ----> PHP appends new data to log.txt ----> C programme rus as deamon and keep track of log.txt
[09:31] <ikonia> Rohan_m: so you're php is being run from within a web server
[09:32] <somsip> Rohan_m: PHP will run under user www-data which may not have write access to a file in a user's home
[09:32] <Rohan_m> ikonia: i change the ownership and group of PHP file to Raj
[09:32] <ikonia> Rohan_m: that means nothing
[09:32] <ikonia> Rohan_m: try to answer the question I asked
[09:32] <ikonia> Rohan_m: so you're php is being run from within a web server
[09:32] <Rohan_m> ikonia: yeah
[09:33] <ikonia> Rohan_m: so the user that runs the webserver will need access, which by default it will not (and should not) have access to peoples home directories
[09:34] <Rohan_m> ikonia: that's not a problem cause data is being sent in a encrypted manner  imean no normal person can not pass data to this PHP file
[09:34] <ikonia> that is a problem
[09:35] <Rohan_m> ikonia: so there is no way of writing file in home directory via a php file ?
[09:35] <ikonia> Rohan_m: I didn't say that
[09:36] <Rohan_m> ikonia: should i show the ls -la of both php and log.txt
[09:36] <ikonia> Rohan_m: I said by default this is not configured, and should not be configured
[09:36] <lataupe> Bonjour a tous, ici lataupe de suisse!
[09:37] <Rohan_m> ikonia: i dont get it cause when i "ls -la" my /www/ directory there is no user like "www-data"
[09:37] <bcvery> !fr | lataupe
[09:38] <ikonia> Rohan_m: what is the name of the user that runs the web server
[09:38] <lataupe> ah merci beaucoup!
[09:38] <lataupe> dsl!
[09:41] <Rohan_m> ikonia: root
[09:41] <ikonia> Rohan_m: no, it's not
[09:41] <ikonia> Rohan_m: is this a default ubuntu install ?
[09:42] <Rohan_m> ikonia: how do i check it
[09:42] <ikonia> Rohan_m: is this a default ubuntu install ?
[09:42] <Rohan_m> ikonia: yes
[09:42] <ikonia> Rohan_m: then the user is not root
[09:42] <Rohan_m> ikonia: how do i check the user
[09:43] <ikonia> look at the name of the user running the process
[09:46] <Rohan_m> ikonia: apache2 is owned and being used by root
[09:46] <ikonia> no, it's not
[09:46] <ikonia> or certainly shouldn't be on a default ubuntu install
[09:46] <bala> hello
[09:46] <bala> any one there? Need a bit of help with screen resolutions
[09:47] <ikonia> Rohan_m: pastebin the output of "ps -ef | grep apache"
[09:47] <bala> hi ikonia
[09:47] <odla> hi, i am trying to decide btwn chromium and chrome. i'd prefer to use chromium as it's open-source but it looks like it's at 34 and chrome is at 36. does chromium get updated on trusty or will it stay at 34?
[09:47] <bala> I am using xubuntu and I installed Gnome 3.10.4
[09:47] <bala> from the software centre
[09:47] <ikonia> odla: you are unlikley to see updates
[09:47] <bala> issue is gnome keeps forgetting my resolution and it gets reset at every reboot
[09:48] <odla> ikonia: ok, so it's either firefox or install chrome if i want to keep my browser up to date
[09:48] <bala> ikonia?
[09:48] <Rohan_m> ikonia: http://www.codejaw.com/8tjuti
[09:48] <Guest94253> Hi. I've just went through boot.log and it is spiked with 'CRLF, CR line terminators'. Can someone explain why is that so?
[09:48] <bala> odla get chrome thats what I use. Mainly because its prebundled with a flaash player
[09:49] <ikonia> Rohan_m: come on !
[09:49] <ikonia> Rohan_m: look at it "www-data" is the user
[09:49] <Rohan_m> ikonia: is made a ps -u root and apache was there
[09:49] <ikonia> Rohan_m: why did you do that ?
[09:49] <bala> ikonia--
[09:50] <ikonia> Rohan_m: I didn't ask you to run ps -u to check for root user processs, I asked you "which user is apache being run as"
[09:50] <Rohan_m> ikonia: maybe that's all what i know i'm noob
[09:50] <ikonia> Rohan_m: ps -u only shows root users
[09:50] <ikonia> Rohan_m: so "I don't know how to" is the response you give, not wrong information
[09:51] <Rohan_m> ikonia: :) now what should i do ?
[09:51] <sarkie> hi quick question, if I want the latest and greatest nvidia drivers, what's the correct way to install it? As it seems you have to specify what version you want to install. And nvidia-current seems pretty old. Thanks.
[09:51] <theadmin> sarkie: It's strongly advised against updating past versions in repositories
[09:51] <ikonia> Rohan_m: so you know now that the user executing the php script is "www-data" - hence why you correctly get "permission denied"
[09:51] <theadmin> sarkie: Just stick to current unless it's broken
[09:52] <sarkie> theadmin: fair enough, "Restricted Drivers" route?
[09:52] <theadmin> sarkie: Yeah basically, install from there and stick to them
[09:52] <sarkie> theadmin: ty,
[09:52] <Rohan_m> ikonia: so i must change the group of file log.txt to www-data or what should i do ?
[09:53] <ikonia> Rohan_m: no, I very very strongly advise you not to mess with this - more so when you appear to not understand it at all
[09:53] <ikonia> Rohan_m: don't write to a users home directory
[09:53] <ikonia> Rohan_m: it's their private space, the web server should not have access to it
[09:54] <Sverdar> wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[09:55] <bala> theadmin hi
[09:55] <bala> I need help
[09:55] <bala> No one seems to be responding
[09:56] <theadmin> bala: What's your issue?
[09:57] <Rohan_m> ikonia: :( its my personal computer so there is no point of messing with others data
[09:57] <ikonia> Rohan_m: so ?
[09:57] <ikonia> Rohan_m: the concept is still the same, the web server should not be writing to peoples home directories
[09:59] <Tux_> sup
[10:00] <llutz> Rohan_m: just put your logfile somewhere else, with proper rights/permission and let your c-prog analyse it from there
[10:01] <Rohan_m> llutz: hmm maybe you are right
[10:02] <braveleg> Hi, folks. I got a problem with my laptop (lenovo g510), which has two graphic cards on board, first one is integrated intel and the second one - amd radeon r7 m265. The problem is that my system doesn't detect that second card of mine, lspci -v only lists integrated card. As a consequence - I can't install amd drivers. Does anyone have same experience or have a clue what can I do with that? Thanks in advance.
[10:04] <Frantic> Guys, I have a new dell t5610 machine on which I've installed ubuntu. I have trouble with the sound, the sound quality is extremely bad (sound is tinny, maybe like a very low bitrate). Dell's spec says the machine has ALC269Q chipset, ubuntu 14.04 says it's ALC280. After upgrading to the daily alsa DKSM, it now says it's ALC3220. Any idea how I would debug this?
[10:04] <Frantic> my alsa-info.sh output is here: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=db6206566479b8df476cec776fac5e624e31fd84
[10:06] <bala> theadmin: I installed Gnome 3 on Xubuntu, and then changed the resolution to 1024*768 but gnome keeps forgetting at every reboot
[10:07] <theadmin> bala: What's your issue?
[10:07] <theadmin> Oops
[10:07] <theadmin> Bloody up arrow
[10:07] <theadmin> bala: I have no idea, sorry
[10:07] <crb> есть русские
[10:07] <k1l> !ru | crb
[10:07] <theadmin> crb: #ubuntu-ru
[10:09] <crb> Where rus?
[10:09] <bala> thanks
[10:09] <theadmin> crb: Наберите /join #ubuntu-ru в строке сообщений
[10:09] <braveleg> crb: type "/join #ubuntu-ru" and you will be switched to russin channel
[10:10] <braveleg> crb: *russian
[10:17] <AlecTaylor> Where's the dev channel for ubuntu? - Specifically package maintainers?
[10:17] <ikonia> depends on the package
[10:18] <AlecTaylor> nginx
[10:18] <ikonia> what repo is that in ?
[10:18] <AlecTaylor> Want to know why that, and so many other packages are out of date
[10:18] <theadmin> !info nginx
[10:18] <AlecTaylor> On packages.ubuntu
[10:18] <ikonia> so it's in main
[10:18] <AlecTaylor> Yeah
[10:19] <ikonia> AlecTaylor: it's the version that is taken from upstream debian as stable
[10:19] <AlecTaylor> ikonia: Tempted to maintain the components I have on my stack in main
[10:19] <k1l> AlecTaylor: which ubuntu are you on?
[10:19] <AlecTaylor> Ah, so I go on debian-maintainers then?
[10:19] <AlecTaylor> trusty x64
[10:19] <ikonia> AlecTaylor: what ?
[10:19] <AlecTaylor> ikonia: You said it's taken from upstream debian. So I just need to join their channel, right?
[10:19] <k1l> the version is the version that was in debian before the ubuntu release freeze
[10:19] <AlecTaylor> (and ask their)
[10:20] <ikonia> AlecTaylor: what is your end goal ?
[10:20] <AlecTaylor> k1l: Release freeze?
[10:20] <AlecTaylor> ikonia: To get the latest versions into stable
[10:20] <k1l> AlecTaylor: i think you dont got the release idea from ubuntu ( and debian)
[10:20] <ikonia> AlecTaylor: ok, so that's not going to happen in this release.
[10:20] <AlecTaylor> So I can stop using PPAs
[10:20] <ikonia> AlecTaylor: if you want the package version changed in debian, log a bug against it explaining why it needs to change
[10:20] <ikonia> AlecTaylor: then follow up with that individual package maintainer/group
[10:21] <sogatori> Hello everyone. The application idndicators/status notifiers standard says that indicators with the "passive" property should/can be hidden. Is there any way in unity to interact with hidden indicators?
[10:21] <k1l> AlecTaylor: that will never happen. its due to the release setup. you may want a rolling release distro if you want bleeding edge all the time
[10:21] <AlecTaylor> Can't I just start maintaining it then submit it for review?
[10:21] <theadmin> AlecTaylor: Ubuntu freezes software at a specific version so that stuff doesn't change around randomly
[10:21] <ikonia> AlecTaylor: that would not go into main
[10:21] <AlecTaylor> Well that sucks
[10:21] <theadmin> AlecTaylor: New major versions are only in new releases
[10:22] <k1l> AlecTaylor: there are just a few exceptions that are renewed after the ubuntu version is released. most packages stay at that version number, but get security and heavy bug fix patches
[10:22] <k1l> ...
[10:23] <santhosh_> but in latest version updation (firefox ) getting black address bar
[10:23] <santhosh_> in ubuntu
[10:23] <theadmin> santhosh_: Some software is exempt from freeze, browsers is one such category
[10:23] <theadmin> If that's what you're talking about
[10:24] <Ben64> i think its a question
[10:24] <bala> any gnome3 users here?
[10:24] <Ben64> bala: ask your real question to achieve results
[10:24] <santhosh_> the kernel version is differenrt sponmme application not working in 1.13 version
[10:25] <santhosh_> sorry 3.13
[10:25] <santhosh_>  <bala> yes iam working on gnome
[10:26] <Ben64> santhosh_: can you take a little bit more time and describe what problem or problems you'd like to solve? the firefox issue? something else?
[10:27] <santhosh_> present my company working wine application in ubuntu it is working kernel version 3.5 but it is not working kernel 3.13
[10:27] <santhosh_> and graphicks ia also heavy
[10:27] <Ben64> santhosh_: ok, for wine support you should ask in #winehq
[10:27] <santhosh_> it is not running is 1 gb ram
[10:28] <ios-7-mel> on ubuntu
[10:28] <santhosh_> it is having heavy graphics it is very slow on 1 gb ram
[10:29] <ios-7-mel> how to attach my samsung s3 mini on ubuntu
[10:29] <ios-7-mel> plz help
[10:31] <gurdeep> how to attach my samsung s3 mini on ubuntu
[10:31] <gurdeep>  plz help
[10:31] <gurdeep> how to attach my samsung s3 mini on ubuntu
[10:31] <gurdeep>  plz help
[10:32] <k1l> gurdeep: if you get annoying the people will not help you. stay calm and describe your issue with more details
[10:32] <gurdeep> im sry
[10:33] <theadmin> gurdeep: Set it to MTP mode, then it will show up in the file manager
[10:33] <gurdeep> i want to know how i can connect my phone with my pc
[10:33] <theadmin> gurdeep: USB cable?
[10:33] <gurdeep> yes
[10:34] <gurdeep> i conected with data cable but not showing on my pc
[10:34] <k1l> gurdeep: where is your problem with sticking the usb cable in it?
[10:34] <k1l> choose mtp mode on that smartphone. which ubuntu are you on exactly?
[10:36] <svetlana> xlock command not found ... what package provides it ?
[10:36] <theadmin> !find /usr/bin/xlock
[10:36] <theadmin> Huh.
[10:36] <k1l> !find xlock
[10:36] <gurdeep> i install mtp tools as well through the terminal
[10:37] <Ben64> for me (12.04) it's in   xlockmore and xlockmore-gl
[10:37] <theadmin> gurdeep: Which Ubuntu version?
[10:37] <svetlana> mmm
[10:37] <theadmin> svetlana: xlockmore as Ben64 says
[10:37] <Ben64> doesn't appear to be in 14.04
[10:38] <svetlana> you are correct; I am on 14.04
[10:38] <k1l> gurdeep: dont you want to answer the questions to help you?
[10:38] <gurdeep> ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[10:38] <k1l> gurdeep: that has no mtp support so you need to install mtp support first.
[10:38] <gurdeep> WHICH ONE ?
[10:39] <Vivekananda> can someone help me enable samba share and get it working
[10:40] <k1l> gurdeep: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/320367/unable-to-connect-galaxy-nexus-to-ubuntu-12-04-through-gmtp
[10:40] <Vivekananda> trying to connect to a win 8 shared folder using samba on 12.04 ubuntu. I can see the computer under workgroup but dont see any files inside on the windows computer
[10:42] <gurdeep> okey thanks for the help :)
[10:42] <svetlana> OK, let me put it this way ... I have gdm installed but not gnome-screensaver. How do I lock screen from commandline?
[10:43] <Vivekananda> svetlana: tried windows L or windows P key ?
[10:44] <Vivekananda> sorry try ctrl alt  L
[10:44] <bala> hello
[10:44] <bala> anyone using Gnome3 here?
[10:44] <bala> Having screen resolution issues with it
[10:45] <ikonia> svetlana: win+l but that won't trigger the screen saver just the lock screen
[10:46] <theadmin> ikonia: Isn't that a Windows shortcut? It's been Ctrl-Alt-L at least until 13.10
[10:46] <ikonia> ctrl+l works here
[10:46] <ikonia> sorry
[10:46] <ikonia> win+l
[10:46] <Rohan_m> ikonia: i there any way of pasting content of /path1/file to /path2/file2
[10:46] <theadmin> Rohan_m: cat /path/file | tee -a /path/file2
[10:47] <ikonia> Rohan_m: cat /path1/file >> /path2/file2
[10:47] <Vivekananda> anyone care to help me samba sharing issues. not seeing shared folder of win 8 on ubuntu 12.04
[10:48] <Rohan_m> ikonia: thnaks worked like charm
[10:48] <Rohan_m> theadmin: thanks fella worked like charm
[10:50] <Vivekananda> no worries got it .
[10:55] <neo1691> I am using openjdk-7 and I am getting a lot of these errors javax.sound.sampled.LineUnavailableException
[10:55] <neo1691> at org.classpath.icedtea.pulseaudio.PulseAudioMixer.openImpl
[10:55] <neo1691> Now I had to remove pulseaudio because espeak was not working without pulseaudio! And I am needing both for a particular project
[10:56] <neo1691> So basically how can I ask openjdk-7 to use alsa instead of pulseaudio
[10:59] <martinrame> hi, can anyone point me to a description of the "network" param of /etc/network/interfaces ?
[11:05] <soahccc> Can I install ubuntu server via a VM onto a USB and then boot it from another machine? I'm almost certain that it'll work but I've never done this and maybe I shouldn't?
[11:06] <metaspike> neo1691, when you do you get such errors, are you developing? running a program?
[11:06] <maxvi> what is Mod1 key?
[11:06] <alireza> Any body Here?
[11:06] <alireza> :D
[11:07] <metaspike> for a few minutes yep
[11:07] <Guest94253> What are 'CRLF, CR line terminators' doing in /var/log/boot.log?
[11:07] <lobxop> Any one experienced with auto login in tty?
[11:07] <faLUCE> hello. Can I install ubuntu touch (or any linux distro) on a Archos Xenon tablet (8'') ?  (I asked the same question on #ubuntu-touch) but nobody never answers
[11:08] <lobxop> think you have to root that first
[11:09] <lobxop> http://www.androidcentral.com/root look if it is supported
[11:09] <metaspike> lobxop, the cleanest way to do that is boot into 'single user mode', like... just use a user runlevel, i wouldn't think autologin was a good idea
[11:09] <metaspike> use a lower runlevel
[11:09] <lobxop> the problem is i want a home server to reboot every night
[11:09] <lobxop> and i have configured it to do so
[11:09] <lobxop> however
[11:09] <ghosTM55> Hi all
[11:09] <lobxop> i dont quite understand what i have done
[11:10] <lobxop> i start this as service
[11:10] <lobxop> ExecStart=-/usr/bin/agetty --autologin username --noclear %I 38400 linux
[11:10] <metaspike> why??
[11:10] <lobxop> i dont get why i need '-' in front of abs path or ' --noclear %I 38400 '
[11:10] <maxvi> what key is Mod1 in ubuntu 12.04?
[11:11] <lobxop> agetty page is not very helpful though
[11:11] <k1l> maxvi: which desktop?
[11:12] <k1l> maxvi: right alt key should do it
[11:13] <maxvi> k1l: unity
[11:14] <k1l> !away > zz_chamunks
[11:16] <jnhghy> I'm trying to create a symbolic link to a folder I cd to the folder location then I did ln -s folder ../../folder but I only get a !folder file that is red and which I can't open what am I doing wrong?
[11:18] <chrissg> jhnghy: Any special chars in there? Spaces?
[11:18] <ArunC> Hi all, I am trying to add the kubuntu-ppa/next repository on my Ubuntu 14.04. But I get an error saying PPA not found
[11:18] <bzfgrewe> \leave #ubuntu
[11:18] <ArunC> Any idea what might be wrong?
[11:19] <jnhghy> chrissg: the folder is "3GP" no spaces
[11:19] <bzfgrewe> \LEAVE #ubuntu
[11:19] <viscera> bzfgrewe: /part #ubuntu
[11:19] <k1l> bzfgrewe: / instead of \
[11:19] <chrissg> *sigh* :)
[11:19] <chrissg> @bzfgrewe: do a "ls -lhad ../../folder" from the folder your'e ln'ing out
[11:21] <jnhghy> chrissg: is ^ for me?
[11:28] <Guest94253> I am starting tor service as a root, however in ps output it is under 'debian-+' user. What? Why?
[11:29] <metaspike> im off to throw random things into /dev/fb0 ! syas
[11:37] <Psi-Jack> Guest94253: Have you ever thought to get a non-Guest nick?
[11:41] <Guest94253> Psi-Jack, this is the best reply I've got. This community is wonderfully useless. No I haven't.
[11:44] <chrissg> @jnhghy: Yeah, sorry :) Im at work... :) Do that
[11:45] <jnhghy> chrissg: no problem, result of ls -lahd 3GP is : drwxr-xr-x 21 jalexandru jalexandru 4.0K Jul 22 13:26 3GP
[11:46] <chrissg> aaand a "ls -lhad (linkname)"
[11:47] <jnhghy> chrissg: I do that after I do ln -s 3GP ../../3GP ?
[11:49] <KeyboardNotFound> What's the diffrence between iw and iwconfig?
[11:49] <chrissg> rather do a complete path, not a relative one, ie "ln -s /home/someone/3GP ."
[11:49] <jnhghy> chrissg: found a solution ... thanks ... I've cd to the place where I want to add the symlink and from there I've did ln -s ../path/to/source/3GP 3GP and it worked
[11:49] <chrissg> I find relative path links the source of evil.
[11:49] <chrissg> See? Evil :)
[11:49] <jnhghy> chrissg: yap, you are right ...
[11:50] <jnhghy> :)
[11:50] <chrissg> Youre welcome.
[11:54] <lobxop> ExecStart=-/usr/bin/agetty --autologin username --noclear %I 38400 linux; Can any one tell me what does '-' in front of tpath and --noclear %I 38400  mean?
[11:55] <Hounddog> Having an annoying issue. When i step away from my system and after few minutes it goes to sleep the monitors go and stay black. I then manually switch off the monitors. Turn them back on and it start showing something again on 2 monitors... I have 3. I then have to suspend the system and resume it again then all monitors show but any Overlay window looks scrambled then
[11:57] <Hounddog> actually just seeing that any window is having like another window behind it which is scrambled
[11:57] <krejsi> quick question, can I remove my ubuntu live usb from my computer after i have booted?
[11:57] <lobxop> why not lol
[11:58] <chrissg> @krejsi: Not if you booted FROM the usb media :)
[11:58] <krejsi> chrissg: thats what i mean :p
[11:58] <lobxop> if you have installed,thath is
[11:58] <krejsi> not installed
[11:58] <chrissg> Well, if you pull the floor youre standing on from under your feet away... :)
[11:59] <lobxop> ^
[11:59] <chrissg> It's a *live* boot media, so it's needed. Unless you installed.
[11:59] <krejsi> dunno i thought it was all loaded into RAM or something
[11:59] <chrissg> @krejsi: Caching? Nope.
[12:00] <chrissg> @Hounddog: Umm. Had the same issue back in '12. Fixed by removing one monitor :). If you get a solution, do tell me.
[12:00] <Hounddog> chrissg: hmmm
[12:01] <Hounddog> chrissg: its just annoying.. if i suspend it manually before i go and come back its ok
[12:01] <chrissg> Try the same with only 2 monitors, see if that does not show these symptoms.
[12:01] <Hounddog> chrissg: https://www.dropbox.com/s/otw50pgxlf46kkc/Screenshot%20from%202014-07-22%2013%3A58%3A46.png
[12:01] <Hounddog> you had this effect then also?
[12:01] <Hounddog> in the middle screen
[12:02] <chrissg> Not this one exactly, but other "fun" features with 3+ Monitors.
[12:02] <Hounddog> hehe
[12:03] <Hounddog> Also wondering if it might be some programm as it was working in the beginning but i have no idea where to start searching on this hmm
[12:04] <Hounddog> Well thx anyway, thought maybee someone experienced this and had a solution :)
[12:05] <chrissg> Experienced, yes, solution... not so much :)
[12:06] <arcanus> hello im going to install a ubuntu server soon and i wonder where i do the encrption of the whole harddrive installation, ist under installation or after ?
[12:06] <chrissg> During partitioning.
[12:08] <arcanus> chrissg: thx
[12:09] <Hounddog> chrissg: have you changed anything to your screensaver?
[12:09] <Hounddog> chrissg: or powersaving?
[12:09] <marto1> Hi all, ubuntu 14.04 3.13.0-32-generic 32 bit; 855GM VGA - "# modprobe i915" fails with "could not insert 'i915': No such device". Any ideas, thanks?
[12:10] <chrissg> @Hounddog: lemme check.
[12:10] <bipul> Any Documents, guide for configuring Tomcat logs to logstash? please, I am looking for a help.
[12:10] <Hounddog> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=957678 just asking cause i think this could be my issue as i have a programm chaging my desktop backgroun d imaes every few minutes
[12:12] <chrissg> @Hounddog: didnt change anything, except for "lock screen on screensaver" and "do nothing" on all the events.
[12:14] <Hounddog> chrissg: well, just might be something... i am just checking into it... if i could remember the name of the program i installed lol
[12:16] <faLUCE> hello. Can I install ubuntu touch (or any linux distro) on a Archos Xenon tablet (8'') ?  (I asked the same question on #ubuntu-touch) but nobody never answers
[12:17] <acovrig> I am following http://xmodulo.com/2014/01/install-configure-kvm-open-vswitch-ubuntu-debian.html and am wondering about eth5 mentioned in the guide, what interface should that be? (WAN,LAN,some random interface w/nothing plugged in)?
[12:18] <ajnr> Hi I am unable to read the symbol in ubuntu but it is working in mac, actually this was a code of fragment in java.http://fpaste.org/119776/60314891/ please help me out
[12:18] <acovrig> I tried my LAN interface, and then couldn't access my system over SSH (as if I ifdown'd the iface)...
[12:18] <chrissg> @falUCE: Maybe no one has such a device and thus, does not know. (Nor do I). Just try?
[12:19] <faLUCE> chrissg: how can I try it before buying?
[12:20] <chrissg> Oh, sorry. Thought you had it already :)
[12:21] <olegfusion> Hello! May anybody help? I have ubuntu server 13.10, apache is 2.4.6 now
[12:21] <olegfusion> May anybody help how downgrade it to 2.2.22?
[12:22] <k1l> olegfusion: 13.10 lost support last week. so first make a plan to upgrade to 14.04 anyway
[12:23] <philinux> faLUCE;~ I reckon you need to check in at the  xda-developers website
[12:23] <olegfusion> that's the problem..
[12:24] <faLUCE> philinux: k1l do you mean that ubuntu touch can work on this tablet without problems (or with few problems) even if it is not listed on the wiki page?
[12:25] <k1l> faLUCE: this is still not the ubuntu touch channel. you were already given answers in the correct channel
[12:25] <faLUCE> k1l: sorry
[12:27] <marianne_> Hi, I'm currently on 12.04.. is there any way to use the update manager to get to 14.04 without having to go through the 13s?
[12:28] <olegfusion> k11: will it be possible if I'll upgrade to 14.04?
[12:28] <olegfusion> downgrading to apache2.2
[12:29] <philinux> marianne_;~ you'll be auto offered the upgrade when 14.04.1 comes out
[12:30] <kostkon> marianne_, you will be notified in a few days time to do just that, upgrade to 14.04.1, when 14.04.1 comes out... in a few days
[12:32] <philinux> marianne_;~ the 14.04.1 isos are being tested this week
[12:35] <marianne_> Thanks guys... guess I'm just a little impatient :-)
[12:37] <philinux> marianne_;~ you can observe one aspect of the testing here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2235060
[12:39] <marianne_> philinux: thank you very much
[12:42] <arcanus> im trying to set an ipv6 address on my interface eth0 but it doesnt work can anyone see any error in my /etc/network/interfaces config: http://pastebin.com/ucimxWeW
[12:45] <asko> good day all
[12:47] <asko> need help i just installed ubuntu 14.0.4 but my webcam doesn't work
[12:47] <george1> why does linux never hangs?
[12:47] <olegfusion> may anybody help, do-release-upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04: I get this: [12:47] <olegfusion> [12:48] <asko> pls help my webcam doesn't help
[12:49] <chrissg> @asko: Maybe its plainly not supported?
[12:49] <asko> @chrissg this is what i get ** Message: cheese-application.vala:291: Error during camera setup: No device found
[12:49] <asko> (cheese:12201): cheese-CRITICAL **: cheese_camera_device_get_device_node: assertion 'CHEESE_IS_CAMERA_DEVICE (device)' failed
[12:49] <asko> (cheese:12201): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_variant_new_string: assertion 'string != NULL' failed
[12:49] <asko> (cheese:12201): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_settings_schema_key_type_check: assertion 'value != NULL' failed
[12:49] <asko> (cheese:12201): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_variant_get_type_string: assertion 'value != NULL' failed
[12:49] <asko> (cheese:12201): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_settings_set_value: key 'camera' in 'org.gnome.Cheese' expects type 's', but a GVariant of type '(null)' was given
[12:50] <asko> ** (cheese:12201): CRITICAL **: cheese_preferences_dialog_setup_resolutions_for_device: assertion 'device != NULL' failed
[12:50] <k1l> !paste | asko
[12:51] <chrissg> subtle, k1l :)
[12:51] <asko> okay thanks
[12:51] <philinux> asko;~ what webcam, make and model?
[12:52] <asko> my laptop is HP probook 4510s
[12:53] <asko> @ubottu  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7835956/
[12:54] <asko> @philinux i'm pretty new to ubuntu
[12:57] <asko> helloo pleasss heeelllppp
[12:58] <asko> philinux...!!
[12:59] <philinux> asko;~ just been poking around on hp website, there doesnt seem to be a webcam driver for linux
[12:59] <asko> awww...
[12:59] <ObrienDave> builtin or external?
[13:00] <asko> @philinux but linux mint gave me a driver
[13:01] <asko> @philinux i used skype with mint
[13:01] <alpy> is normal ghc --make command does not produce a executable?
[13:01] <philinux> asko;~ you mean a graphics driver?
[13:01] <asko> philinux; webcam
[13:02] <philinux> asko;~ normally webcam drivers are built into the kernel
[13:03] <asko> so i have to install a kernel that will enable my webcam philinux?
[13:04] <philinux> asko;~  no it nshould just work
[13:04] <asko> philinux; so my kernel is broken?
[13:04] <philinux> no
[13:05] <DreamPCs> Hey guys, quick question (hopefully).
[13:05] <asko> philinux;~ so y is my webcam not working/
[13:05] <DreamPCs> How do I create a live usb and still be able to use the remaining space in a typical flash drive fashion?
[13:06] <DreamPCs> I tried searching but couldn't find anything. I then partitioned the flash drive (1 GB for Linux and 3 for normal storage) but when writing the ISO to the first partition the flash drive won't boot
[13:06] <asko> dreamPcs;~ i installed universal-usb-installer -1.9.5.4.exe on windows
[13:06] <asko> DreamPcs;~ that gave me the option but on windows platform
[13:06] <DreamPCs> ask Does that allow booting from the drive and also allow sticking into a Windows computer for normal file storage?
[13:07] <olegfusion> 2014-07-22 17:04:34,421 INFO apt version: '0.9.9.1~ubuntu1'
[13:07] <olegfusion> 2014-07-22 17:04:34,421 INFO release-upgrader version '0.220.2' started
[13:07] <olegfusion> 2014-07-22 17:04:34,441 DEBUG screen returned: 'No Sockets found in /var/run/screen/S-root.
[13:07] <olegfusion> '
[13:07] <olegfusion> 2014-07-22 17:04:34,441 INFO re-exec inside screen: '['screen', '-e', '\\0\\0', '-L', '-c', 'screenrc', '-S', 'ubuntu-release-upgrade-screen-window', '/tmp/ubuntu-release-upgrader-r_yjnr/trusty', '--mode=server$
[13:07] <DreamPCs> Ok cool, I guess I'll boot Windows and do it from there
[13:07] <asko> DreamPCs;~yeb it worked for me
[13:07] <olegfusion> this is my upgrade log from 13.30 to 14.04
[13:07] <DreamPCs> olegfusion please don't paste into this window
[13:07] <philinux> asko;~ has webcam worked before
[13:07] <DreamPCs> Use something like pastebin instead.
[13:07] <olegfusion> ok
[13:07] <daftykins> !pastebin olegfusion
[13:07] <daftykins> ugh
[13:07] <daftykins> !paste
[13:07] <asko> philinux;~ yes when i use mint
[13:08] <loa> i can't get why ubuntu 14.04 renames for example eth0 to p2p1?
[13:08] <loa> for what this done?
[13:08] <asko> philinux;~ now i'm using ubuntu 14.0.4
[13:08] <olegfusion> http://pastebin.com/eDX0hW1A
[13:08] <daftykins> loa: it's not ubuntu, it's what some kernel drivers have moved to doing, it doesn't affect functionality.
[13:08] <olegfusion> loa: I have p2p1 already in 13.10
[13:08] <dino82> loa:  Look up the parameter 'biosdevname'
[13:09] <loa> for what this done?
[13:09] <olegfusion> http://pastebin.com/eDX0hW1A possible to solve? I get it in do-release-upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04
[13:09] <daftykins> loa: that is not a grammatically correct sentence, so no answer can be given.
[13:09] <loa> what purpose of this?
[13:09] <dino82> http://linux.die.net/man/1/biosdevname
[13:09] <daftykins> just accept it.
[13:09] <loa> and use it in my configs?
[13:10] <asko> my webcam is still not working bros
[13:10] <loa> i see that renaming actually did udev
[13:11] <loa> Biosdevname is a udev helper utility developed by Dell and released under the GNU General Public License (GPL). It provides a consistent naming mechanism for network devices based on their physical location as suggested by the system BIOS
[13:11] <loa> ok
[13:11] <loa> so i can name my device for example lan and wan right?
[13:11] <loa> devices *
[13:12] <dino82> You can do that with the 'ip' command
[13:12] <olegfusion> also, I am not sure but I get a lot of errors on updating like: Error http://ru.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/universe Translation-ru_RU
[13:13] <dino82> biosdevname simply takes whatever vendor-supplied interface name (p1p1 for instance) and turns into the linux-friendly but more ambiguous 'ethX' naming scheme
[13:15] <asko> my webcam is not working bros any ideas
[13:17] <pa> what do i have to uninstall to remove the play/pause control from the tray sound menu?
[13:22] <skulltip> with the Cortex ARM A-8, are most games in the ubuntu repository compatible with A-8?
[13:22] <skulltip> including open arena?
[13:23] <daftykins> ubuntu isn't on ARM
[13:23] <daftykins> skulltip: if you're talking about touch, #ubuntu-touch
[13:23] <skulltip> welll some claim to run ubuntu
[13:23] <k1l> ubuntu is on arm
[13:23] <k1l> but better is to ask in #ubuntu-arm for arm specific questions
[13:24] <skulltip> ah thanks k1l
[13:24] <daftykins> k1l: surely not desktop?
[13:24] <k1l> daftykins: of course desktop, too. mst packages from the repos get build for arm too
[13:25] <daftykins> maybe it's only specific ARM versions then, i could've sworn that the official line is that there isn't a build for the r-pi for example?
[13:25] <k1l> daftykins: yes, the rpi got a that old arm layout that is not supported.
[13:26] <DJones> daftykins: CRPI uses ARMv6 while Ubuntu is optimised for ARMv7
[13:26] <k1l> you need at least armv7. the rpi got armv6
[13:28] <daftykins> hmm thanks, there don't appear to be any ISOs however - though granted i wouldn't expect such devices to obtain it in the usual way
[13:31] <skulltip> i'm just wanting to build a cheap surfing and gaming machine for an elderly shut in
[13:31] <marc_> hello guys, can someone tell me how to open up my port in transmission?
[13:31] <skulltip> which doesn't take up alot of space, other than the screen
[13:31] <cfhowlett> !hardware | skulltip
[13:32] <k1l> daftykins: the driver situation is even worse on arm at all. so not having free open source drivers there is no chance for universal isos. most devices have special isos
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> marc_: transmission does have ports to open, you can select a port to use but it doesn't "open' anything
[13:34] <skulltip> ty cfhowlett
[13:35] <marc_> ah, okay... thanks. it's strange. i'm distro hopping quite frequently and usually it works just like that, but sometimes it doesn't
[13:35] <cfhowlett> skulltip somewhat OT but you might also want to peek at the steambox -
[13:36] <cfhowlett> skulltip http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamMachines/
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> marc_: you may need to open a port in iptables if you have configured it, or on your router if it doesnt support upnp
[13:49] <marc_> i just a tried a different torrent file... and now it's working. no clue why, but it does
[13:52] <marc_> thanks though.
[13:52] <iptable> could have been the torrent?
[13:52] <iptable> dead torrent it's called
[13:52] <marc_> seems like it
[13:52] <marc_> ok, i will watch out for those from now on :-D
[13:52] <marc_> zombie torrents
[13:53] <iptable> afaik to use transmission by default you don't have to open any incoming ports. I got none open on my router nor desktop.
[13:54] <iptable> it will download torrents and only share (upload) to people you connect to as peers (upload chunks to people you are downloading chunks from)
[14:01] <zoro> hey
[14:05] <untaken> do I need ibus installed? If I don't really deal with foreign fonts etc? Can it be removed easily, or are there loads of dependencies for it?
[14:15] <philinux> untaken;~ see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/7836355/
[14:16] <untaken> philinux: so a lot uses it nowadays
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> iptable: some routers dont spport upnp, so a port for traffic must be forwarded so that data flows
[14:17] <philinux> untaken;~ it says size is 1253kb in synaptic
[14:18] <untaken> philinux: yea, well I don't personally have an issue with it, but I used Xmonad and this latest version of Ubuntu has caused a bug with urxvt and autokey I use. Turns out ibus is the issue, but I don't even start this up .xsession or anything
[14:18] <untaken> s/use/used/
[14:19] <untaken> if I close ibus on the tray, the problem goes and I was just wondering what the hell does it do
[14:19] <philinux> untaken;~ just purge it then - if things dont work out install it again
[14:20] <untaken> ok
[14:20] <untaken> I'll give that a whirl
[14:22] <untaken> philinux: it also removes the unity desktop if I do that, and don't want to take that out. Always good to have a backup desktop manager
[14:22] <philinux> untaken;~ check synaptic it removes the control center too
[14:22] <untaken> think I'll just keep it there and do a: killall ibus-daemon  in .xsession
[14:24] <philinux> untaken;~ see post 3 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2218568
[14:24] <ragnarock> hi
[14:24] <untaken> philinux: thanks, will take a look
[14:25] <Gabi> where can i download the latest .iso
[14:26] <ikonia> iso of what ?
[14:26] <bazhang> !torrents | Gabi
[14:27] <xombi> Hey Ubuntu gurus... I was attempting to download XUbuntu and ran into an error: "WARNING:root:file 'quantal.tar.gz.gpg' missing"
[14:27] <ikonia> where did you get this error
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> xombi: do you mean "install" when you say "download"
[14:27] <ragnarock> I am using a nvidia geforce 720M graphics for my Asus Xseries notebook,I have installed ubuntu and I observe unusual freezing of screen.Also my keypad does not work in ubuntu. How can I fix this?
[14:28] <ikonia> got to be a wubi install for that error
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> ragnarock: if you run:   sudo lshw -C display      do you see an Intel GPU too?
[14:28] <xombi> oops. That's what I meant, ActionParsnip. When attempting  a do-release-upgrade.
[14:28] <ikonia> maybe the pendrive maker
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> xombi: ma\ssive massive difference
[14:28] <ragnarock> correction:touchpad not keypad
[14:28] <xombi> \s... I see what you did there.
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> xombi: quantal is EOL. I'm guessing you are on Precise now?
[14:29] <xombi> It looks identical to the problem described here: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/10/21/%23ubuntu-installer.txt
[14:29] <xombi> That is correct; I'm running Precise and trying to upgrade to the next LTS release.
[14:30] <xombi> a leap from version 12 to 14 seems to be causing a bit of a problem... the update manager sees a minor update but it's apparently no longer being supported.
[14:30] <ikonia> it's not going to work
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> xombi: if you grab the Trusty ISO and boot to it you can use it to upgrade]
[14:30] <ikonia> 12.04 -> 14.04 is not available until 14.05.1
[14:30] <ikonia> 14.04.1 sorry
[14:30] <xombi> I thought not, ikonia, but I thought I could use -d (or -p?) to override that.
[14:31] <daftykins> ^no.
[14:31] <untaken> philinux: thanks for that, remove it and it seems to have done the job :)
[14:31] <untaken> philinux++
[14:31] <philinux> untaken;~ you mean from that post 3?
[14:32] <untaken> yea, the one where they say the ubuntu-desktop is just a meta
[14:32] <daftykins> xombi: really, i would backup and never use WUBI again
[14:32] <TBotNik> All: Using Kubuntu 12.04 LTS and FireFox, but now Google has an embedded script, forcing me through their servers, instead of rendering a page directly, so getting 404, 403 and other errors when entering normal URLs.  How do I turn this #$%#@ thing off, so I browse normally?
[14:32] <leni1> help, I want to remove a 'Windows Vista' entry from the GRUB boot menu.
[14:32] <ragnarock> well it says: description: VGA compatible controller    product: Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller       vendor: Intel Corporation       physical id: 2 show clock can nvidea configuration
[14:32] <xombi> daftykins: this is  a virtual machine :P
[14:32] <untaken> basically just apt-get removed it and logged out. Also Unity still works if I need to check that out.
[14:33] <daftykins> xombi: really 0o ok well anyway until 14.04.1 is out, an LTS -> LTS upgrade isn't wise, you can't use -d because that means upgrade to the development release - which is now 14.10
[14:33] <philinux> untaken;~ has it removed the gnome-control-center as well though
[14:33] <ikonia> xombi: why are you trying to override something that is told "do not do until 14.04.1"
  well it says: description: VGA compatible controller    product: Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller       vendor: Intel Corporation       physical id: 2 and shows clock and nvidea configurations
[14:34] <untaken> philinux: nah, that loads up still :)
[14:35] <xombi> It seemed like a good idea at the time, ikonia ;P Versus, you know, attempting to blow away the old installation via a CD.
[14:35] <philinux> untaken;~ if you come to do a version upgrade you'll need to put the -desktop package back
[14:35] <asdofindia> is it placebo or does ubuntu in fact run like a lot faster when i switch to lxde?
[14:35] <ikonia> xombi: seems like a really bad idea
[14:36] <daftykins> asdofindia: it's fact, because unity uses 3D and all manner of resources whereas LXDE is lighter.
[14:36] <xombi> how so, ikonia? Ubuntu 12 is stable, Ubuntu 14 is stable.
[14:36] <asdofindia> daftykins, I've been an idiot all these days then. :P never liked eye-candy. But never switched desktop environments.
[14:37] <daftykins> asdofindia: xfce is a nice third choice
[14:37] <xombi> But anyway, isn't the missing GPG signature a sign of a bug? >.>
[14:37] <Guest27479> hello
[14:37] <xombi> Or is it just "expected behavior" because I'm trying to do something "irrational"?
[14:37] <ikonia> xombi: no, it's a sign you are doing something that's wrong
[14:37] <ikonia> xombi: hence why "not supported"
[14:38] <asdofindia> daftykins, but, just noticed. the menu bar is missing. no file, edit, etc :(
[14:38] <xombi> ikonia:  So let me get this straight... downloading an LTE release "locks you in" to not upgrading?
[14:38] <untaken> philinux: so you advise install ibus back maybe before a dist upgrade?
[14:38] <daftykins> asdofindia: you mean inside a program?
[14:38] <ikonia> xombi: no, downloading an LTE doesn't lock you in at all
[14:38] <xombi> ikonia:
[14:38] <asdofindia> daftykins, yeah. inside. on firefox i can bring things up with ALt+f
[14:38] <daftykins> "LTE" is mobile phone tech.
[14:38] <ikonia> xombi: yes ?
[14:38] <super> how do I determined my hostX on the /sys/class/scsi_host/hostX/scan?
[14:38] <ikonia> daftykins: he means LTS, I let it slide
[14:39] <daftykins> i know :P
[14:39] <xombi> so the only options right now are to upgrade to an unsupported release, or to download a whole new image? :(
[14:39] <super> Long Term Services?
[14:39] <daftykins> Support.
[14:39] <ikonia> xombi: what version ar eyou currently running to be clear
[14:39] <super> Services=Supports?
[14:40] <xombi> ikonia: I'm running Xubuntu 12.04.4 LTS
[14:40] <super> 3.13.0-32-generic
[14:40] <super> Linux
[14:40] <ikonia> xombi: right, so your CURRENT only option is to wait for 14.04.1 as that is the only other "in support" ubuntu release at hte moment
[14:40] <super> uname: invalid option -- 'A'
[14:40] <super> Try 'uname --help' for more information.
[14:40] <super> uname: invalid option -- 'R'
[14:40] <super> Try 'uname --help' for more information.
[14:40] <ikonia> xombi: if there was a non-lts release in support, you could upgrade to that, but there is currently not
[14:40] <super> uname: invalid option -- 'O'
[14:40] <super> Try 'uname --help' for more information.
[14:40] <TBotNik> All: Repeating: Using Kubuntu 12.04 LTS and FireFox, but now Google has an embedded script, forcing me through their servers, instead of rendering a page directly, so getting 404, 403 and other errors when entering normal URLs.  How do I turn this #$%#@ thing off, so I browse normally?
[14:40] <daftykins> !paste | super
[14:40] <ikonia> super: please stop
[14:41] <daftykins> TBotNik: yeah until you describe what you mean by this mythical google script, nobody can assist you.
[14:41] <xombi> ikonia: what about the magical -d and -p? >.>
[14:41] <ikonia> xombi: what about them ?
[14:41] <daftykins> xombi: i already answered that.
[14:42] <ajnr> how to solve unicode issues in eclipse in ubuntu
[14:42] <xombi> Aren't those supposed to work regardless? a la https://www.digitalocean.com/community/questions/ubuntu-12-04-to-14-04-upgrade
[14:42] <ikonia> xombi: "supposed to work" is not something that ubuntu recommends
[14:42] <daftykins> xombi: you've already been told the answer to this three times now.
[14:42] <ikonia> xombi: supported, stable, tried and tested IS what ubuntu recommends
[14:43] <ikonia> xombi: so again, trying to get around that = on your own head
[14:43] <daftykins> xombi: hang on, when you said VM - is it actually a digitalocean VPS, or what?
[14:43] <xombi> Ubuntu recommends I use Ubuntu Cloud. :P
[14:43] <ikonia> xombi: no it doesn't
[14:43] <xombi> This is a local machine running on VirtualBox.
[14:44] <daftykins> xombi: ok, so are you familiar with vbox's snapshot feature?
[14:44] <xombi> I am, daftykins.
[14:44] <daftykins> xombi: so make one, then go nuts!
[14:45] <xombi> ......
[14:45] <daftykins> xombi: but also, as it's a VM... just clean install 14.04 to another then move your data
[14:46] <xombi> Thank goodness it's a VM too. :P
[14:46] <xombi> I really hope "Ubuntu Recommends" isn't the dead-end answer. :P
[14:46] <daftykins> xombi: Tux forbid we should do things the way they're meant to work!
[14:47] <daftykins> now i'll hear no more about it
[14:47] <ikonia> xombi: think about what you are saying
[14:47] <xombi> ikonia: I think what you meant to say was "daftykins, think about what you're saying" :P
[14:47] <ikonia> xombi: ubuntu provides a recommended safe upgtrade method for their LONG TERM and STABLE platform, you're complaining because they are giving you this recommendation / advice
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> TBotNik: that isnt normal for Ubuntu
[14:48] <ikonia> xombi: no, I'm not
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> TBotNik: have you set a proxy?
[14:48] <ikonia> xombi: you're the one saying "ubuntu recommends" is the dead end answer
[14:48] <xombi> ikonia: You're the one saying "ubuntu recommends" as a dead-end answer :P
[14:48] <ikonia> xombi: please re-read what I said then
[14:49] <xombi> "'supposed to work' is not something that ubuntu recommends" .... hmm
[14:49] <ikonia> xombi: correct
[14:49] <xombi> So I am attempting to do something that is meant to not work?
[14:49] <ikonia> xombi: someone writing blog posts about what works for him to get around the designed upgrade program is not something ubuntu recommends
[14:49] <xombi> Am or was?
[14:50] <xombi> Looks like we hit the dead-end "Ubuntu Recommends" again. :P
[14:50] <xombi> Recommendations(tm) aside, isn't it supposed to work?
[14:50] <ikonia> xombi: no, you want to work outside the design of the stable platform
[14:51] <xombi> ikonia: So 404 errors and not finding files is normal?
[14:51] <ikonia> xombi: it is on an supported release
[14:51] <ikonia> because the rpeos are not htere
[14:51] <ikonia> on an "unsupported" release
[14:51] <ikonia> sorry
[14:51] <xombi> So once that point upgrade hits there'll be a GPG and stuff? :P Okay.
[14:51] <xombi> That's what I wanted to figure out.
[14:52] <ikonia> xombi: as I said at the start there will be an upgrade path once 14.04.1 is released
[14:52] <iptable> ActionParsnip, please explain why a port has to be forwarded on routers which don't support upnp
[14:52] <xombi> I understood that, ikonia. :P I was just trying to figure out whether the workarounds were broken on purpose or there was an actual repo error.
[14:52] <ikonia> xombi: there is neither
[14:53] <ikonia> xombi: there is no repo error, and you're not doing a work around
[14:53] <ikonia> xombi: you are doing something that is silly
[14:53] <iptable> My router doesn't support upnp and no port forwarding was needed. for downloads, transmission happily connects out without the need to have incoming ports forwarded
[14:53] <ikonia> moving from 12.04 -> 12.10
[14:53] <ikonia> which is a dead repo
[14:53] <xombi> I was trying to move from 12.04 to 14.04
[14:53] <xombi> edgy edgy.
[14:53] <ikonia> xombi: right, but you where going to 12.10
[14:54] <ikonia> hence the "quantal" error you said
[14:54] <xombi> Well, that was the only "update" Xubuntu was offering. :P
[14:54] <xombi> I didn't follow through, but it popped up and then warned me against it.
[14:54] <ikonia> xombi: it hsouldn't be offering anything
[14:54] <xombi> It recommended that it was not recommended.
[14:54] <ikonia> unless you have told it to not upgrade to LTS releases and tried to trick it
[14:54] <xombi> The only setting I changed to get it to show up was "show releases"... or something like that.
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> iptable: because if the router cannot automatically open the port and allow the traffic, Transmission will begin requesting data but it will not be allowed in as the router will block the traffic in
[14:54] <ikonia> so you tried to get around it
[14:54] <xombi> in The Settings Manager
[14:55] <meganerd> xombi: then you did something wrong and picked the wrong release
[14:55] <ikonia> so again - I go back to "trying to et around the design" = failure
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> iptable: that is why transmission has a 'port' setting, so you can set that and then replicate the setting on tne router.
[14:55] <meganerd> xombi: 12.04 -> 14.4 works fine
[14:55] <meganerd> xombi: 12.04 -> 14.04 works fine
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> iptable: decent routers will automatically setup the ports etc and allow the traffic as the initial request is from inside
[14:55] <xombi> how so, meganerd? Via a CD? :P
[14:55] <meganerd> xombi: 12.10 is dead, hence the 404s
[14:56] <daftykins> meganerd: you actually mean 12.04.4 -> 14.04.1
[14:56] <meganerd> xombi: no, I did it the usual way from the CLI on a bunch of my VMs
[14:56] <xombi> what commands did you use for that? :O
[14:56] <ikonia> ones which are away from the designed upgrade path
[14:57] <xombi> ikonia: stop.
[14:57] <ikonia> so again - either a.) follow the designed upgrade path which 14.04.1 will be released soon b.) on your own head be it
[14:57] <iptable> ActionParsnip, that is not true. Transmission makes a TCP connection out and gets data as responses
[14:57] <xombi> ikonia: great. your input is no longer desired.
[14:57] <meganerd> daftykins: perhaps, the installs all started with 12.04 pretty much right after the original release
[14:57] <iptable> ActionParsnip, you do not need to open any ports to make outbound connections to view websites, access ftp nor downloads torrents
[14:58] <daftykins> meganerd: so if they were kept up to date, they'd have been .4 yeah. but please don't advise upgrading unofficially.
[14:58] <xombi> meganerd: did you have to modify any of the source lists before attempting the upgrade? I'm trying to figure out what I missed. :P
[14:58] <iptable> ActionParsnip, transmission has a port setting for sharing your torrents to others, which is not what the user was trying to do.
[14:58] <meganerd> iptable: actually for ftp you do, or use ftp in passive mode, or have conntrack modules for ftp on the router
[14:58] <iptable> ActionParsnip, and no, my router definitely doesn't have upnp, it's a linux router I have connected and installed myself and perform pppoe on it
[14:58] <meganerd> xombi: I did not do anything unusual
[14:59] <iptable> meganerd, well yes, passive ftp you don't need to - i.e. the more sane method of using ftp
[14:59] <Talez> exit
[14:59] <meganerd> iptable: ftp is not sane
[14:59] <iptable> meganerd, I didn't say it is. passive is closer to sane though then active ;)
[14:59] <iptable> meganerd, I do agtree ftp should be dead, but oh well. just used it as example
[14:59] <meganerd> daftykins: I did not realise that this was now unsupported.   do-release-upgrade worked for me out of the box the day of the release
[15:00] <daftykins> meganerd: yes, but using the -d flag means "upgrade to the development release" which as of 14.10 being available, would mean 14.10 - breaking things
[15:00] <daftykins> meganerd: so basically although it worked, it's a bad move
[15:00] <ikonia> daftykins: thats the subjective bit with the long term support pinning
[15:00] <ikonia> daftykins: however as xombi has already changed this it will break
[15:00] <daftykins> ikonia: sorry i don't follow
[15:00] <daftykins> i'm more talking generally with meganerd now, not that user's issue
[15:01] <meganerd> daftykins: I do not believe that I had to specify -d
[15:01] <ikonia> daftykins: totally
[15:01] <xombi> ikonia: please stop mentioning me.
[15:01] <ikonia> meganerd: you did
[15:01] <xombi> meganerd: it's irrelevant-ish now, but what commands did you use for the update?
[15:01] <ikonia> xombi: I'm using you as a reference for the question you asked
[15:02] <xombi> meganerd: it's irrelevant-ish now, but what commands did you use for the update from 12.04 to 14.04?
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> iptable: it will be alowing the traffic out then back in, some don't do this
[15:02] <meganerd> xombi: that was a few months ago, I updated a bunch of VMs and one host.  Honestly I have been upgrading Debian and Ubuntu machines for so long now that I don't really think about it
[15:02] <xombi> darn muscle memory... it doesn't transfer up into the brain sometimes.
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> iptable: https://trac.transmissionbt.com/wiki/PortForwardingGuide
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> iptable: if its untrue, you go tell the transmission guys their wiki is wrong
[15:02] <iptable> ActionParsnip, transmission does and works very well without forwarding any ports
[15:03] <meganerd> xombi: so I used do-release, I don't remember doing anything else
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> iptable: see how far you get
[15:03] <meganerd> iptable: it will work better with the ports open
[15:03] <xombi> darn, meganerd. That's the same thing I did, to no avail.
[15:03] <iptable> ActionParsnip, of course everyone wants you to forward ports. idea of torrent is that you share what you download so that torrents work. using transmission without port forwarding though works very well and will just not share.
[15:03] <ikonia> because it won't work
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> iptable: who do you think knows more about transmission?
[15:03] <Alex_86> what is minimum requirement hardware  for UBUNTU 12.04?
[15:03] <ikonia> the version is pinned until 14.04.1
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> iptable: as I said, in some cases it is needed
[15:03] <iptable> ActionParsnip, I think they want you to open ports so you share what you get. for downloading torrents though, it just works.
[15:03] <xombi> I was running it on one core and 512mb ram, Alex_86 :P
[15:04] <meganerd> ikonia: good to know.
[15:04] <iptable> anyways, got visitors just now
[15:04]  * iptable goes away for a sec
[15:04] <meganerd> Alex_86: I had it on a 500 mhz machine with a gig of ram
[15:04] <Alex_86> xombi i have very old PC3
[15:04] <Alex_86> with 512+256MB
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> iptable: yes because upnp is quite common now, sometimes its not
[15:04] <ikonia> Alex_86: you need to probably get away from that
[15:04] <xombi> Alex_86:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements You can probably do it
[15:04] <Alex_86> but processor is 1.2Ghz celeron
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> iptable: just because your router does something doesnt mean all routers do it
[15:04] <xombi> It won't be too fast, but I was running Firefox all right on mine. Ooh... Celeron.
[15:05] <ikonia> p3 is not really up to modern ubuntu requirements
[15:05] <ikonia> I would advise against it
[15:05] <Alex_86> i want install apache PHP and MYsql only
[15:05] <Alex_86> on this Ubuntu
[15:05] <xombi> Best to start with something light, like Lubunto or Xubuntu then...
[15:05] <daftykins> Alex_86: use ubuntu server and that'll be fine, waste of power though
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: 1.4Ghz isn't too shabby. I ran Lubuntu on a 1.6Ghz AMD Sepron AM2 :)
[15:06] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: he's running a P3
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: i guess
[15:06] <zetheroo1> ikonia: wouldn't a P3 really struggle with Unity!? ...
[15:06] <ikonia> which means the video card will be of that area too
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: lubuntu should be ok
[15:06] <Alex_86> i wanna local server for programming in PHP
[15:06] <ikonia> zetheroo1: it wouldn't even be worth trying to use it in the real world
[15:07] <ikonia> Alex_86: could you not use a VM on your desktop
[15:07] <ikonia> Alex_86: or use your desktop - it can run php/mysql just fine
[15:07] <ikonia> you don't need a seperate server/device
[15:07] <Alex_86> I have very old desktop
[15:07] <zetheroo1> ikonia: yup .... I tried running 12.04 on a T42 Thinkpad and it was pretty darn rough
[15:07] <beanee> hey guys, how do i get the Java Control Panel to work on ubuntu
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> beanee: do you have java installed?
[15:08] <beanee> yep
[15:08] <beanee> actionparsnip yes
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> beanee: is it oracle java or open java?
[15:09] <beanee> oracle
[15:09] <blip-> hid, I just bought a CD-R pack. 700 MB. and I realized the ubuntu ISO needs 711MB according to the  burn software
[15:09] <beanee> actionparsnip oracle
[15:09] <iptable> ActionParsnip, no, my router does not to upnp
[15:09] <blip-> shouldn't the software be able to overburn a bit over 700 ?  or is that only on certain CDRs
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> iptable: i give up
[15:10] <ikonia> blip-: dvd only
[15:10] <iptable> ActionParsnip, as stated, I installed it myself, it's an ubuntu 14.04 server with pppoe. I did not install upnp service on it.
[15:10] <blip-> ikonia, damn. have to go out again then.  thanks
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> iptable: ive moved on. Believe what you want.
[15:11] <hid> blip-: the best thing to do is a live usb
[15:11] <iptable> ActionParsnip, ok. I'll believe that my router without upnp (100%, I did not install upnp on it), and my transmission work therefore port forward is not needed to download files. Just don't misadvise people. that's all
[15:11] <chris-bat-ana> 10071971
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> beanee: if you search Dash for 'java' does it show?
[15:12] <hid> faster than cd and no size limit
[15:12] <blip-> hid, yeah with my luck my usb drive decided to die on me few days ago.  i spent 3 hours yesterday trying to boot an iso off the hdd with grub2 but had issues
[15:12] <beanee> actionparsnip no have tried it
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> hid: sure there is, its restricted by the size of the USB
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> beanee: how did you install Oracle Java?
[15:12] <beanee> oh wait
[15:12] <beanee> wtf
[15:13] <beanee> thanks
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> beanee: np :)
[15:13] <beanee> i tried it last night, nothing showed up
[15:13] <beanee> actionparsnip: thank you
[15:13] <hid> ActionParsnip: not really. A dvd is 4.7 or 9.4 gb
[15:13] <beanee> have a nice day you
[15:14] <hid> a usb stick can 128 gb with no problem
[15:14] <catalase> can someone help me troubleshoot an SSH error
[15:14] <catalase> the auth.log is not being very helpful
[15:14] <hid> for me 10 gb is a limit, not 128
[15:14] <catalase> i am trying to log into SSH with a system level account that i created
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> hid: its not limitless though, no storage is
[15:14] <catalase> but it gives "Channel closed" or "Exit Code 1"
[15:14] <catalase> it is immediately terminated when i login
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> catalase: try:  ssh -v user@server
[15:15] <meganerd> catalase: what do you mean by "system level account"?
[15:15] <iptable> ActionParsnip, last one, look at point 9 on official website for transmission. they say you do not need to open ports. case closed :) https://trac.transmissionbt.com/wiki/SlowSpeeds
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> iptable: then why is there a port forwarding guide on the same page? why maintain it
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> iptable: if its completely not needed?
[15:16] <snufft> hi guys!
[15:16] <iptable> ActionParsnip, the port forwarding guide you sent, in the first 3 sentences explains that you do not need to open ports for downloading, only to share what you are downloading actually.
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> iptable: so, to seed?
[15:17] <iptable> ActionParsnip, and to share with other peers. basically if you have chunk number 500 of the file and a peer has 501, you can share chunk 500 and they share 501. so you can download from each other without the need to have the whole file, both of you
[15:18] <meganerd> iptable: while not *required*, performance will be better as you will have acces to a greater number of peers
[15:18] <meganerd> iptable: in other words it is a good idea.  Arguing semantics is not really useful
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> iptable: just reading that page slowly, makes sense.
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> iptable: y bad
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> *my
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> :)
[15:18] <iptable> meganerd, maxing out 80MBps on a single download on torrent here. performance nowadays is not impacted. Bittorrent speciciation says you MUSt share what you download, hence to not break specification you should be opening the ports
[15:19] <catalase> ActionParsnip, it authenticates, and then sends the environment, but i get "Connection to server closed."
[15:19] <catalase> lol
[15:19] <catalase> debug1: Exit status 1
[15:19] <iptable> ActionParsnip, this normally works quite well as when you open connection to a peer to download and through the same channel they can download back.
[15:19] <meganerd> iptable: on extremely well seeded torrents this is the case, but in cases where the numbers of participants is low, the port forwarding does help
[15:19] <iptable> ActionParsnip, although, you cannot seed, you are using 1 TCP connection to upload and download and some clients will refuse to let you download some chunks if you fail to share others via open ports (older clients)
[15:19] <meganerd> iptable: also, I have a 100mbit and a 50 mbit connection here
[15:20] <meganerd> iptable: which is my house :P
[15:20] <iptable> meganerd, I only have 2x80MBps in my house :P looks like we are both posh :D
[15:20] <meganerd> iptable: indeed
[15:20] <iptable> meganerd, although I am only getting 20MBps upload on each link dammit. they want to force me to buy lease line, there is no other reason to limit it.
[15:20] <ajnr> Hi I am unable to read the symbol in ubuntu but it is working in mac, actually this was a code of fragment in java.http://fpaste.org/119776/60314891/ please help me out
[15:20] <iptable> meganerd, agreed. on low-connection torrents, it makes sense to share
[15:21] <meganerd> iptable: though I live in western canada so latency is not great.  Also no native ipv6 ISPs
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> ajnr: what symbol?
[15:21] <iptable> meganerd, for my few websites and a mail server, it will do ;)
[15:21] <ajnr> ActionParsnip, its given in the link
[15:22] <ajnr> ActionParsnip, http://fpaste.org/119776/60314891/
[15:22] <Amaze-balls> Can I use dd if=/path/image.iso of=/dev/cdrom1 to burn a linux Iso ?
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> Amaze-balls: no, you will need grow2ofs (sp) or similar
[15:22] <iptable> ActionParsnip, we live and learn and all make mistakes (if I can say so about myself). Point is to learn :)
[15:22] <Amaze-balls> Cool thanks
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> iptable: always learn
[15:22] <ajnr> ActionParsnip, I am not able to read the symbol in the eclipse editor.
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> !burn | Amaze-balls
[15:23] <Amaze-balls> I was trying wodim but some how wodim -devices doesnt find my device
[15:23] <Amaze-balls> :S
[15:23] <iptable> burn amaze balls? that sounds plain wrong :D
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> Amaze-balls: there are other cli burners
[15:24] <daftykins> iptable: keep the off-topic comments to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[15:24] <Amaze-balls> cause mostly Im working from a terminal looking for a terminal option
[15:24] <Amaze-balls> I'll give the other apps a try
[15:24] <iptable> daftykins, sorry. got carried away
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> Amaze-balls: growisofs -speed=2 -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvdrw=dvd_image.iso      if yu have a DVD ISO
[15:25] <iptable> Amaze-balls, wodim is a good cli tool
[15:25] <iptable> and that
[15:26] <catalase> meganerd, the account that i am trying to use to SSH was created with --system
[15:26] <iptable> Amaze-balls, amazingly you can use dd to burn an ISO, although whether that will work depends on ISO type
[15:27] <meganerd> catalase: was there anything in syslog?
[15:27] <meganerd> catalase: is there a valid shell, password, and "home" directory?
[15:27] <iptable> and apparently firmware
[15:29] <iptable> Amaze-balls, dd if=/home/me/test.iso of=/dev/sr0 obs=32k seek=0 worked a charm
[15:29] <catalase> meganerd, yes
[15:29] <catalase> it connects properly, and the disconnects immediately
[15:32] <meganerd> catalase: and what do you see in auth log and syslog?
[15:32] <meganerd> catalase: are you using a password or ssh keys?
[15:33] <Amaze-balls> Well Thats all folks for today...see ya again later.
[15:35] <catalase> meganerd, using SSH keys
[15:35] <catalase> meganerd, the key was accepted (authentication succeeded)
[15:35] <meganerd> catalase: and what shell is defined for this user?
[15:35] <lucas_>  bom dia!
[15:36] <meganerd> catalase: that is the auth log, what does syslog say?
[15:36] <catalase> megabit|away, how do i check what shell is defined for the user
[15:36] <lucas_> algum br ai
[15:36] <Pici> !br | lucas_
[15:36] <hseg> Hi. I'm trying to install Magento, and it tells me that "PHP extension "mcrypt" must be loaded.". I ran apt-get install php5-mcrypt && service apache2 restart, but this still happens.
[15:36] <lucas_> #ubuntu-br
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> hseg: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[15:38] <catalase> isn't there a place that has the default locations of all of the logs?
[15:38] <catalase> this is kind of ridiculous
[15:38] <catalase> no way i will remember the location of every single log
[15:38] <hseg> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[15:38] <meganerd> catalase: /car/log
[15:38] <meganerd> catalase: /var/log
[15:38] <catalase> google "ssh sys log" lol, nothing
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> hseg: seen this guide: http://davidtsadler.com/archives/2012/06/03/how-to-install-magento-on-ubuntu/
[15:39] <hseg> Following that.
[15:39] <meganerd> catalase: what are the file permissions of the "home" folder?  What is the shell that user is set to use?
[15:39] <hseg> Don't think I missed a step
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> hseg: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23294428/unable-to-install-magento-on-ubuntu-14-04
[15:40] <catalase> meganerd, the permissions are correct, 0700, and 0600 for authorized keys file
[15:40] <meganerd> catalase: and syslog is the application default log.  Probably the single most important log file.
[15:40] <meganerd> catalase: not what I asked for
[15:40] <catalase> but how do i check the shell that i set it to use
[15:40] <meganerd> catalase: grep <user> /etc/passwd
[15:40] <hseg> I'm trying to install magento v1.9
[15:40] <catalase> btsync:x:105:113::/home/btsync:/bin/false
[15:40] <meganerd> catalase: it will be the last segement, as delineated by a colon ":"
[15:41] <meganerd> catalase: there you go
[15:41] <hseg> which is two minor versions after the problematic one on that SO post
[15:41] <catalase> meganerd, what should it be set to
[15:41] <meganerd> catalase: depends on what you want to do
[15:41] <catalase> needs to be able to SFTP
[15:41] <catalase> and send files
[15:42] <catalase> i think it needs /bin/bash
[15:42] <catalase> are there other options?
[15:42] <meganerd> catalase: google for sftponly
[15:42] <mjuszcza1> I'm using dh_make to build a package tree and then debuild -S, but it's adding a -1 after the package version.  Any ideas why?
[15:43] <catalase> meganerd, how do i reload the /etc/passwd file after i make changes to it
[15:43] <meganerd> catalase: no need to
[15:43] <catalase> ok
[15:43] <meganerd> catalase: to start with /bin/bash would work to start testing, though you are going to want to lock this down eventually
[15:45] <meganerd> catalase: I wrote a script for where I work to automatically create chrooted sftp only users: https://github.com/meganerd/sftp-manage/blob/master/sftp-files.sh
[15:45] <catalase> meganerd, that is extremely helpful thank you. btw it worked
[15:46] <catalase> i suppose if i change it to /bin/sftponly that would be ideal then
[15:46] <meganerd> catalase: a "system" account generally does not get an interactive shell
[15:46] <catalase> oh
[15:46] <catalase> i see
[15:47] <meganerd> catalase: again it really depends.  If you are just using sftp, or is sftp to allow users to upload their web sites.  THere are a lot of things that you can use this for, and the details will be driven by your requirements
[15:48] <catalase> meganerd, i am the sole user of the server. no one else has RSA keys. no password authentication is allowed. no other users will ever be added
[15:48] <catalase> i should preface that by saying however, that, there is a LAMP stack on this server
[15:49] <catalase> or AMP, i suppose that linux is implied here
[15:49] <punkgeek> failed to build vmnet. failed to execute the build command. what should i do?
[15:50] <daftykins> punkgeek: trying to install vmware is it?
[15:51] <punkgeek> yes
[15:51] <catalase> meganerd, now maybe you can help me answer another question as to why i am always getting "software aborted connection" which occurs after some time
[15:51] <meganerd> catalase: for sftp only I usually do this with group membership and a couple of lines in sshd.conf
[15:51] <ikonia> catalase: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[15:51] <daftykins> punkgeek: well, technically that counts as third party software and is not supported here... surely you've found documentation from them of how to install it?
[15:51] <meganerd> catalase: what is the client?
[15:52] <daftykins> punkgeek: here's a clue though, likely you need to install the package build-essential
[15:52] <catalase> ikonia, meganerd, PuTTY and Ubuntu 14.04 SERVER LTS
[15:52] <ikonia> catalase: so how are you transfering the files exactly,
[15:52] <catalase> ikonia, meganerd, SFTP
[15:52] <ikonia> catalase: how are you doing that with putty
[15:53] <punkgeek> package  build-essential is installed
[15:53] <syntroPi> why does /usr/lib/upower/upowerd need 15.2 GB (!) of memory?
[15:53] <catalase> ikonia, meganerd, i think it could be a firewall issue. it often connects with a non-priveleged port even though i have specified 22
[15:53] <daftykins> punkgeek: back to finding their documentation, then
[15:53] <ikonia> syntroPi: it doesn't
[15:53] <ikonia> catalase: how are you doing that with putty
[15:53] <catalase> ikonia, i could use pscp.exe, but i use FileZilla to transfer files
[15:54] <ikonia> catalase: right, so when you where asked the client - the answer is not "putty" it's filezilla
[15:54] <syntroPi> ikonia, well for some strange reason on my system it sometimes eats up all system memory, are there any memleaks known for this?
[15:54] <ikonia> syntroPi: how are you measuring it's memory use - please don't say top
[15:55] <catalase> ikonia, but the problem is that this issue occurs with PuTTY
[15:55] <ikonia> catalase: the connection is being dropped ?
[15:55] <catalase> ikonia, after some time, a few minutes generally, the connection is dropped
[15:55] <ikonia> catalase: idle or with data moving ?
[15:55] <catalase> it will say something to the effect of "Network error: software aborted connection"
[15:56] <catalase> sometimes it will occur just after i've entered a command
[15:56] <ikonia> catalase: open 2 windows
[15:56] <catalase> sometimes it will occur when it is idle
[15:56] <ikonia> catalase: connect one with ssh
[15:56] <syntroPi> ikonia, actually i wasnt measuring it at all until the kernel started killing other processes, then i looked at gnome system monitor and saw that it comsumes almost all system memory until i killed it
[15:56] <catalase> and do what with the other
[15:56] <ikonia> on the other run mtr to your remote host, and see what / where / when it drops
[15:57] <ikonia> syntroPi: so it's using active memory then ?
[15:57] <catalase> ikonia, can you explain what exactly is mtr and how i might go about doing that. are you referring to matt's traceroute
[15:57] <syntroPi> seems it does
[15:57] <ikonia> catalase: it's like a network monitor for th eroutes
[15:57] <catalase> ikonia, also this issue does not occur when connecting on LAN
[15:57] <ikonia> catalase: see where the connection is dropped
[15:57] <ikonia> catalase: so when does it happen ?
[15:58] <ikonia> syntroPi: get a bug logged for it then
[15:58] <catalase> when connecting via WAN
[15:58] <ikonia> catalase: is this machine hosted at your hoise ?
[15:58] <catalase> ikonia, yes
[15:58] <ikonia> catalase: via a port forwarded router ?
[15:58] <catalase> ports are forwarded properly, but it sometimes uses a nonpriv port
[15:59] <ikonia> catalase: sounds like it's the ISP's network rather than the host dropping the connection
[15:59] <ikonia> catalase: is this an ADSL line ?
[15:59] <catalase> fiber optic
[15:59] <meganerd> catalase: this happens to me at work, the firewall kills the connection without keep alives enabled
[15:59] <ikonia> catalase: verify where the connection drops with mtr
[15:59] <ikonia> catalase: but if it's ok on the lan - then it's not going to be ubuntu causing the problem,
[15:59] <daftykins> a lot of things that marketing tells you are fiber, are actually not
[15:59] <ikonia> catalase: it will be the external connetion/network
[15:59] <catalase> ikonia, still have no idea where to get MTR or how to use it. but i will investigate.
[16:00] <catalase> meganerd, keep alives are enabled. every 5 seconds i think
[16:00] <ikonia> keep alive won't stop network errors
[16:00] <ikonia> it will only stop idle disconnects
[16:03] <shivy> Hello, I have installed ubuntustudio with Unity, and LightDM greeter is unity-greeter. When login screen is displayed, and when i type login and password to my ubuntu session, the voice systhesis speak. I dont know why is is enabled, then i dont see any option to disable it. I dont know ho to disable voice synthezer in ubuntu login screen. I tried search in google but i found nothing about it. Can anyone help me?
[16:04] <meganerd> +1 to what ikonia said.  At work our firewall kills "idle" connections
[16:05] <iptable> hah idle as in "the connection I needed but didn't use for over 3 minutes as I went for a pee"?
[16:05] <meganerd> catalase: from windows I use winscp, and if I want to use a console based app I will usually install cygwin
[16:05] <meganerd> iptable: it is set to 5 minutes, but yes
[16:05] <iptable> hah, ok. I know that one. annoying like hell...
[16:07] <catalase> meganerd, for SSH and SFTP?
[16:08] <ubuntu-gnome> hello all
[16:09] <ubuntu-gnome> im trying to install ubuntu gnome but the interface looks huge
[16:09] <ubuntu-gnome> i dont have enough screen space to partition my hard drive
[16:09] <iptable> ubuntu-gnome, gnome IS a huge heavy beast
[16:10] <ubuntu-gnome> the terminal alone takes up like 60% of my screen
[16:10] <ubuntu-gnome> seems like its on a really low resolution
[16:10] <ubuntu-gnome> odd
[16:10] <bakednotfried> ubuntu-gnome: You have to install your video card drivers
[16:10] <catalase> ikonia, can i query you
[16:10] <hypnosb> i switched to a mirror and get: Failed to fetch mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt/dists/raring-backports/universe/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found [Mirror: http://mirrors.mit.edu/ubuntu/]
[16:11] <ubuntu-gnome> this is set to 1920x1080
[16:11] <ubuntu-gnome> so the resolution is right
[16:11] <kdz> help, i fiddled in Gparted and now ubuntu wont start
[16:11] <catalase> i am seeing loss at hops 4 and 7. 100% loss
[16:11] <ubuntu-gnome> but my text and windows are HUGE
[16:11] <catalase> when i ping to google.com lol
[16:11] <OerHeks> hypnosb, raring is EOL
[16:11] <OerHeks> !raring
[16:11] <ubuntu-gnome> i dont think i can install nvidia drivers on a live cd can I?
[16:12] <daftykins> ubuntu-gnome: why would you want to?
[16:12] <ubuntu-gnome> my interface is huge
[16:12] <ubuntu-gnome> i dont have enough screen space to partition my drive
[16:12] <ubuntu-gnome> its at 1920x1080 but the windows and text are too big
[16:13] <kdz> help, i fiddled in Gparted and now ubuntu wont start
[16:13] <ikonia> "fiddled with" = not valid information
[16:13] <daftykins> sounds like the DPI has gone funny
[16:14] <ubuntu-gnome> that could be it dafty
[16:14] <ubuntu-gnome> do you know how to change it?
[16:14] <catalase> brb
[16:14] <kdz> ikonia, i wanted to set automount and also changed setting for the drive ubuntu was installed
[16:14] <daftykins> ubuntu-gnome: not if your nickname is a suggestion that you're running the gnome version, no - no idea where to look, some kind of monitors or display configuration maybe
[16:14] <ikonia> kdz: auto mount is nothing to do with gparted
[16:14] <ikonia> kdz: and "changed settings" is not valid information
[16:15] <ikonia> kdz: what you did would be useful though
[16:15] <ubuntu-gnome> my mouse cursor is ginormous
[16:15] <ubuntu-gnome> lol
[16:15] <kdz> i clicked on assistant
[16:15] <kdz> and something about mount at boot
[16:15] <kdz> i cant even go to root from recovery :o
[16:15] <ikonia> kdz: if you've not paid attetion to what you've done - we can't help
[16:16] <ikonia> kdz: the logical solution would be to re-install
[16:16] <ikonia> kdz: and next time pay attention to changes you try to make
[16:16] <hseg> Still can't figure out why mcrypt isn't loading.
[16:16] <kdz> yikes you are a greathelp
[16:16] <ikonia> kdz: you don't even know what you've changed - you can't expect us to help
[16:16] <OerHeks> ubuntu-gnome, if tour window is too big for your screen, you can drag it easily wit left ALT + left mouse
[16:16] <OerHeks> tou-your
[16:17] <ikonia> kdz: so realistically would be to re-install and pay attention when you are making any changes
[16:17] <kdz> ikonia you sound like a windows user, format!
[16:17] <ikonia> kdz: no I don't
[16:17] <ikonia> kdz:  you sound like you have been careless with your system and don't know what you've actually done,
[16:17] <catalase> meganerd, do you know how to set umask for SFTP file creation. so if i have a user upload a file it automatically sets the file or folder to 770
[16:17] <ikonia> kdz: so the realistic solution is to get your system to a stable state where you can know what you do going forward
[16:17] <kdz> ikonia ok thanks for nothing. ill come right (:
[16:18] <ubuntu-gnome> thanks oerheks
[16:18] <rafaelsoaresbr> kdz: 'i clicked on assistant' I don't remember gparted has this option
[16:18] <kdz> rafaelsoaresbr mine had one :<
[16:18] <kdz> and it said in one of the tick boxes, "mount at boot"
[16:19] <kdz> or something simular
[16:19] <ubuntu-gnome> AHA
[16:19] <ubuntu-gnome> i got it ladies and gentlemen
[16:20] <kdz> rafaelsoaresbr are you fimiliar with fstab?
[16:20] <ubuntu-gnome> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=171000
[16:20] <ikonia> kdz: gparted will not change fstab
[16:20] <ubuntu-gnome> it was the "scaling-factor" key in the d-conf editor
[16:20] <ubuntu-gnome> incase anyone wanted to know
[16:20] <ubuntu-gnome> the default value is 1
[16:21] <ubuntu-gnome> thank you to those who helped
[16:21] <randint> I want to boot Ubuntu on an older PC from USB. turns out that the BIOS (Phoenix BIOS) does not allow boot from USB. other option would've been to boot from CD - but turns out the CD-drive is not functioning. it seems to have a floppy drive, but I have no floppy disks atm (and I have no idea where to get those). so what are my options?
[16:21] <ikonia> randint: buy a cdrom
[16:21] <ikonia> randint: they are cheap
[16:22] <ikonia> randint: sorry DVD rom drive
[16:22] <Guest83363> can any1 help me how i use whtsapp on ubuntu 12.04.
[16:22] <ikonia> randint: to be clear
[16:22] <rafaelsoaresbr> kdz: 'mount at boot' has nothing to do with gparted, gparted can set up 'boot flag'. it's diferent
[16:22] <wormeyman> randint: i've used PLOP boot manager to boot from USB after starting from a CD but you'll still have to buy a CD rom drive.
[16:23] <randint> ikonia, wormeyman: yeah, guess there's no other way
[16:23] <Nimkar> plz tell me hw cn i use android app on ubuntu 12.04?
[16:23] <ikonia> Nimkar: it's an "android" app, not "ubuntu app"
[16:23] <ikonia> Nimkar: you dno't
[16:23] <randint> ikonia, wormeyman: but a friend of mine has an external DVD-drive that connects with USB. would that work?
[16:23] <ikonia> randint: doubtful as that is usb boot
[16:25] <Nimkar> ikonia: i min i wan to use adnroid apps on ubuntu.
[16:25] <iptable> Nimkar, install genymotion
[16:25] <ikonia> Nimkar: I mean "you don't do that, they are not designed for use with ubuntu"
[16:26] <pa> how to open start menu with windows key, in ubuntu?
[16:26] <Nimkar> ikonia:oww fck. leav ..thnq .
[16:26] <kimenniil> hello there? :)
[16:26] <ikonia> pa: there isn't a start menu
[16:26] <ikonia> Nimkar: ?
[16:26] <iptable> Nimkar, genymotion provides a semi-simulator and an abstraction layer that let's you run android OS in a window on your system quite smoothly if you have a coreI7 and at least 4GB of RAM. you can install play store and android apps and games inside.
[16:26] <tom__> hi, what alternative for dreamweaver would you recommend?
[16:26] <pa> ikonia, well ok sorry, i meant in gnome-flshback
[16:27] <ikonia> pa: there is no start menu in gnome-flashback
[16:27] <OerHeks> Nimkar, the only way to do that, if i am correct, is to install an android-IDE (=development environment), but that would not look the same, might not have the same functionality too
[16:27] <pa> well on can add it to the bar
[16:27] <ikonia> there is no start menu
[16:27] <pa> "Main Menu"
[16:27] <joshlegs> so im looking for good terminals other than terminator. suggestions?
[16:28] <pa> gnome-terminal?
[16:28] <Nimkar> n wht if i download ADT BUNDLE ???
[16:28] <joshlegs> pa: is that the default with ubuntu ?
[16:28] <iptable> OerHeks, no, as I said, genymotion does it. android simulator which runs smooth due a lot of optimizations
[16:28] <ikonia> pa: again - no main menu
[16:28] <daftykins> Nimkar: you can emulate android but it's not going to work well
[16:28] <ikonia> pa: have you actually got gnome-flashback ?
[16:28] <iptable> Nimkar, genymotion! download, install, use
[16:28] <pa> ikonia, yes
[16:29] <iptable> dammit. am I muted or something?
[16:29] <ikonia> pa: ok - so there is no "start" menu, or "main" menu
[16:29] <joshlegs> yeah it is. id like something that has some good support for multiple shells in a single termial instance
[16:29] <ikonia> pa: so what are you actually using / doing ?
[16:29] <pa> 14.04
[16:29] <pa> gnome flashback
[16:30] <SchrodingersScat> ikonia: no, I can read you.
[16:30] <TBotNik> ActionParsnip: Found out Google had set me to "System Proxy" with one of their java scripts.  Reset to "No Proxy" but then had to rework /etc/network/interfaces file as there were no eth0 settings at all.  My network requires static IPs so set that, but could not access inet.  Finally had to add OpenDNS with dns-nameservers 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220 as a line into the file and restart eth0.  Now I'm fine!  Thanks!
[16:30] <ikonia> pa: I mean what are you actually doing if you're asking how to map the windows key to the "start menu" or the "main" menu, when they don't actually exist
[16:30] <ikonia> SchrodingersScat: ?
[16:33] <MajorTom> hello
[16:34] <hseg> Trying to install magento 1.9.0.1, it fails due to mcrypt not loading. I installed mcrypt. Help?
[16:34] <daftykins> ground control to MajorTom, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[16:35] <MajorTom> yeah
[16:35] <OerHeks> hseg, magento needs a lot of work, maybe the guys in magento can help,  /join #magento
[16:35] <renebarbosa> hseg, check if the mcrypt lib is being loaded by PHP. You can do it by checking php.ini
[16:36] <renebarbosa> btw, you should use #magento
[16:36] <renebarbosa> as said above :)
[16:36] <MajorTom> I would like to know if there is a way to reach the folder of linux DNS cache
[16:36] <ikonia> MajorTom: it's not a folder
[16:36] <hseg> renebarbosa: Isn't this an ubuntu problem? It seems to have more to do with the fact that mcrypt isn't loading than with magento.
[16:37] <MajorTom> ,,,
[16:37] <renebarbosa> hseg, not necessarily. It can be tons of things, not just the operating system
[16:38] <daftykins> MajorTom: what are you trying to achieve?
[16:39] <MajorTom> Sinceabout5 days I can't connect to a website...so I wondered if it wa a problem about the DNS cache
[16:39] <ikonia> MajorTom: talk to your DNS provider/ISP
[16:39] <ikonia> MajorTom: or check the IP matches the root server
[16:40] <Blaster> Hey I am having a weird issue, where sometimes when I single-click something with my mouse, it's actually double clicking.
[16:40] <Blaster> How can I fix that?
[16:40] <rena_> Hi! Is the mount.cifs Input/output error still being fixed? I've 14.04 with 3.13.0-32 kernel and I'm unable to mount my samba share.
[16:40] <MajorTom> I see...you meant I should search that website using its' IP address
[16:40] <ikonia> MajorTom: no
[16:40] <ikonia> MajorTom: I said nothing of the sort
[16:40] <ikonia> rena_: is this a known error ?
[16:41] <iptable> rena_, works here, so I'm guessing it's on your side
[16:42] <MajorTom> brb
[16:42] <rena_> iptable: Judging from the results of google, I believe so
[16:43] <MajorTom> maybe my nick is already registered...
[16:43] <MajorTom> I will get anotjer one
[16:44] <rain_> Hi, how can I mount windows 8 phone to my ubuntu to transfer files from phone to PC and from PC to phone?
[16:44] <daftykins> rain_: what ubuntu are you running?
[16:44] <rain_> latest
[16:44] <daftykins> should work out of the box if you're using unity
[16:44] <biledemon> Hello. I'm going to dual boot ubuntu 14.04 with windows 8 on a new pc. Does anyone know if Windows require GPT, or is it ok to use MBR?
[16:44] <rena_> I will try to find what's wrong here
[16:45] <Just_Dave> Hello   I am looking to install Ubuntu on an Asus TP600T
[16:45] <daftykins> rena_: are you using fstab or a command to try this samba mount?
[16:45] <daftykins> !touch | Just_Dave
[16:45] <daftykins> Just_Dave: it's not supported yet afaiui
[16:45] <rain_> No special software needed?
[16:45] <rain_> Like drivers or something
[16:45] <daftykins> rain_: shouldn't need to no, this isn't Windows.
[16:45] <daftykins> nor does Windows require such to mount a device as that :)
[16:47] <zanzacar> can anyone help me with this error that I am getting? http://pastebin.com/Mb8wdGTH
[16:47] <zanzacar> I am not sure what libsane is or how to change the permission of the setuid helper
[16:48] <rena_> daftykins: I'm using sudo mount -t cifs -o username=myusername //lanIP/folder /mnt/SMB
[16:48] <kdz> i'm root and i think my filesystem is mounted as read only
[16:48] <kdz> how do i change it?
[16:48] <daftykins> kdz: are you in recovery mode?
[16:49] <daftykins> rena_: you can confirm operation with "smbclient", but you should really be using a credentials file as you can't pass a password like that
[16:49] <kdz> yes
[16:49] <daftykins> !recovery | kdz
[16:49] <daftykins> kdz: point 8
[16:50] <kdz> ok that worked daftykins but i cant edit fstab anymore
[16:50] <rain_> It (win 8 phone) didn't mount it when I usb connected it to PC
[16:50] <kdz> it says permission denied
[16:50] <ikonia> kdz: you do not need to edit fstab
[16:50] <ikonia> kdz: gparted will NOT change fstab
[16:50] <daftykins> rain_: is it unlocked?
[16:50] <rena_> Thank you daftykins
[16:51] <kdz> ikonia it did, there where default used to be is now users
[16:51] <ikonia> kdz: it does not
[16:51] <ikonia> kdz: gparted will not change your fstab
[16:51] <ikonia> kdz: and fstab does not contain any users ever
[16:52] <kdz> omg ikonia u are no help
[16:52] <rain_> daftykins: yes
[16:52] <kdz> i nano /etc/fstab and it was there
[16:52] <rain_> it even asks for password to unlock
[16:52] <ikonia> kdz: gparted will not put users in your /etc/fstab
[16:52] <kdz> ikonia well it did
[16:52] <ikonia> kdz: no, it didn't
[16:52] <daftykins> rain_: as long as you're at the home screen when you plug in, that should probably work... you should check storage settings for being used as MTP when connected... i've never used a windows phone so i have no idea how they work for that
[16:53] <rain_> What's MTP?
[16:53] <rain_> I think I got it work
[16:53] <rain_> I had to unlock mobile before connecting it
[16:54] <rain_> if i connect and then tip password on phone screen then it doesnt mount for some reason
[16:55] <blip-> Hi, my desktop which used to boot LiveCD/LiveUSB just fine doesn't anymore. I see the ubuntu keyboard symbol thing at the bottom then blackscreen.  Same LiveUSB works on other machines
[16:55] <blip-> Bios settings ?
[16:56] <OerHeks> blip-, maybe nomodeset issue ?
[16:56] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[16:57] <rain_> Btw does anyone know and software that I can  use to adjust raw files and then save photos as jpg files? And is there some HDR (High dynamic range) for ubuntu aswell?
[16:57] <OerHeks> rain_, i like darktable for raw work
[16:58] <daftykins> rain_: yeah, it doesn't get a chance to auto mount when it's locked, that's a security mechanism.
[16:58] <kdz> daftykins why do i get a permission denied error after making the filesystem writeable ?
[16:58] <daftykins> kdz: no idea. what are you trying to achieve?
[16:58] <ikonia> kdz: why don't you tell us what really happened
[16:58] <ikonia> kdz: gparted will not put users in /etc/fstab
[16:59] <kdz> daftykins : edit fstab
[16:59] <rain_> well on windows it just mounts later if i unlock later
[16:59] <daftykins> kdz: i was worried you'd say that. i mean the *actual task*
[16:59] <rain_> so I thought I would here also connect and then enter password
[16:59] <blip-> OerHeks, not sure what that is.  Booting the old 12.04, I can't even change boot params cos it doesnt get to the grub menu stage.  As soon as I select "USB" in my boot menu, I see the ubuntu thing at the bottom then black
[16:59] <kdz> daftykins i have to cahnge the mount permissions it seems in fstab
[17:00] <blip-> OerHeks, as in I dont reach the "try ubuntu", "install ubuntu", "check CD for defects" grub menu even
[17:00] <daftykins> kdz: still you are hiding the 'end goal' of this action from us
[17:00] <ikonia> kdz: there are no mount permissions for your root partition in fstab
[17:00] <ikonia> kdz: that is controlled by the file system
[17:00] <kdz> the end goal is to be able to start ubuntu \o/
[17:00] <kdz> i changed some settings it seems
[17:01] <daftykins> kdz: so what happens when you try to boot normally?
[17:01] <kdz> nothing, a curser in the upper left corner flashes
[17:02] <daftykins> mmhmm
[17:02] <daftykins> kdz: well that certainly has nothing to do with fstab
[17:02] <kdz> daftykins: i need to do what is said in this page http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1446383
[17:03] <olegfusion> hello again. May somebody help me, how can I downgrade apache 2.4 to 2.2 at ubuntu 14.04?
[17:04] <daftykins> olegfusion: the packages available within ubuntu are the supported ones, doing otherwise is not supported nor recommended.
[17:04] <daftykins> kdz: do you believe this purely as a guess?
[17:04] <kdz> nope i remember something about users in gparted
[17:05] <daftykins> kdz: ... what does gparted have to do with not booting?
[17:05] <ikonia> kdz: gparted did not do this
[17:05] <Guest81403> One more question: when I trien to mount my windows 8 phon with  KDE plasma then it didn't mount? is it desktop environment specific?
[17:05] <kdz> i fiddled with settings to automount some drives i have
[17:05] <olegfusion> daftykinds, I asked how to do,not telling about supporting. I have one .so for apache2.2 (compiled only without sources), I should use it. So, question is how downgrade and not about supporting
[17:05] <ikonia> kdz: gparted does not put users in fstab
[17:05] <kdz> rebooted and nothing
[17:06] <daftykins> olegfusion: sorry, we only help with supported things here.
[17:06] <olegfusion> ok, no problem
[17:08] <daftykins> kdz: pastebin your fstab
[17:10] <kdz> daftykins i cant
[17:12] <daftykins> kdz: why not
[17:12] <wheatthin> kdz, pipe it into pastebinit after installing pastebinit
[17:12] <kdz> im in root, cant ssh in
[17:13] <daftykins> you can use the recovery mode to install and pastebinit
[17:13] <wheatthin> you can ssh as a privelaged user,
[17:13] <daftykins> get your networking working first
[17:13] <daftykins> kdz: is it connected via wired?
[17:13] <kdz> yup
[17:13] <daftykins> "dhclient eth0"
[17:13] <daftykins> i actually have to go now though, perhaps wheatthin can take over
[17:14] <softballs> TJ-: hey mate :)
[17:15] <TJ-> softballs: hiya :)
[17:15] <OerHeks> hi sprung
[17:15] <sprung> I use my  signature in a lot of web apps. what would you recommend I use to create a keyboard macro that in a key combination my signature will print?
[17:15] <softballs> TJ-:  all good with you?
[17:15] <phunyguy> sprung: as in a copy and paste?
[17:16] <sprung> phunyguy, it would be the same text blob every time
[17:16] <sprung> 3 lines of text
[17:16] <phunyguy> sprung: ctrl-v is the hotkey for "paste"
[17:17] <OerHeks> !info gnee
[17:17] <sprung> phunyguy, that would be the desired behavior, except i would like to not have to copy the text in the first place,  i want it hard coded so every time i did a key combo it would do my signature, like a macro
[17:17] <phunyguy> sprung: ahh I see.
[17:17] <sprung> i'll check out gnee
[17:17] <phunyguy> ok :) because I have no idea.
[17:19] <mkdmz> Is there a way to get X in chroot?
[17:23] <mkdmz_> is there a way to get X in chroot?
[17:25] <jepeltw> mkdmz_, i've used xrdp from within a docker container, so maybe that or a VNC server would be easiest
[17:25] <Rohan_m> ikonia: i'm inside the directory of /var/www and when i make "ls -la" it shows all file but when i do it using PHP's exec() like exec('ls -la') it only show the current PHP file
[17:26] <ikonia> Rohan_m: pastebin ls -la /var/www/ please
[17:26] <Rohan_m> ikonia: ok
[17:27] <CharlesIC> what is the ubuntu package with gui for lvm?
[17:27] <ikonia> CharlesIC: are you using ubuntu or fedora
[17:28] <Rohan_m> ikonia: here it is http://codejaw.com/bk1k
[17:28] <sprung> CharlesIC, are you looking for GParted?
[17:28] <CharlesIC> no
[17:28] <CharlesIC> gparted cant seem to make lvs
[17:29] <ikonia> Rohan_m: look at hte permissions - root root
[17:29] <ikonia> Rohan_m: you'll need to talk to the php guys in ##php to see how exec works
[17:31] <sprung> CharlesIC, gparted does support lvm's, you need to have the lvm flag checked when you create the physical partition.
[17:32] <sprung> CharlesIC, perhaps you created one without the lvm flag checked
[17:37] <buckaroot> Has anyone used Compiz with an intel hd 4000
[17:38] <sheap> Hi everyone, I'm trying to get trusty to install with a preseed, but I'm getting this error: http://paste.fedoraproject.org/119888/06050678/
[17:38] <sheap> anyone have any ideas?
[17:38] <kdz> no idea shah`
[17:38] <kdz> and sheap
[17:39] <buckaroot> no clue
[17:39] <kdz> hey guys unable to change qnything in recovery mode even after doing the whole mount -o remount,rw / thing
[17:39] <kat_> Hi, guys, I just cleaned installed Ubuntu 14 and am kinda new with it. I downloaded Minecraft to my desktop a few minutes ago, and I only see it in the desktop folder, not on the desktop, so I sent it to the trash. How do I get it as an icon on my desktop next time I download it?
[17:41] <shwaiil> HI
[17:41] <unholycrab> i have deleted an upstart script from my system, and the process keeps respawning when i kill -9 it
[17:42] <shwaiil> Q: I'm ssh to my remote server. My terminal timeout on small idle. This can be annoying as I'll have to ssh back, specially because I'm also sshfs. How to change this timeout or the idle ? Thank you!
[17:42] <zanzacar> can anyone help me with this error that I am getting? http://pastebin.com/Mb8wdGTH
[17:42] <zanzacar> can anyone help me with this error that I am getting? http://pastebin.com/Mb8wdGTH
[17:42] <zanzacar> I am not sure what libsane is or how to change the permission of the setuid helper
[17:42] <eraggo> kat_: you need to install openjdk package
[17:43] <Pici> zanzacar: thats not a valid paste.
[17:43] <glasnost> how do I uninstall something I installed with apt-get?
[17:43] <kat_> I did that too earlier but got rid of it, because I don't know what to do. I can get it again in the software center.
[17:44] <Pici> glasnost: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[17:44] <zanzacar> Pici: Sorry about that http://pastebin.com/xnUvSUxK
[17:45] <eraggo> kat_: after installing the package you need to allow minecraft.jar to be runned as executable. right click on it->properties->permissions tab->and check "allow run as executable"
[17:46] <buckaroot> add the minecraft ppa and then install
[17:46] <buckaroot> easiest way
[17:46] <kat_> ya, I actually know that part. I can't seem to get Minecraft on the desktop. I tried what you said and opening it in the folder with the java, but it didn't seem to work.
[17:46] <zanzacar> Pici: I tried to remove the packagename but it didn't work
[17:46] <kat_> How do I get it to the desktop?
[17:47] <eraggo> you downloaded jar at MC site?
[17:47] <kat_> ya
[17:47] <zanzacar> Pici: http://pastebin.com/fCjEXnMJ
[17:47] <eraggo> then just copy-paste it to there
[17:48] <kat_> you mean copy -paste the icon in the desktop folder to the desktop itself?
[17:48] <Rohan_m> i'm using smuxi and unable to join ##php any hints ?
[17:49] <kdz> anyone willing to help in recovery mode?
[17:49] <OerHeks> Rohan_m, maybe you need to register your name with #freenode
[17:49] <kat_> because I dragged and dropped the icon to the desktop, and it wouldn't open.
[17:49] <OerHeks> !register
[17:49] <ChogyDan> zanzacar: are you using any ppas or other non-standard repos?
[17:49] <Rohan_m> ok
[17:49] <Pici> zanzacar: Looks like something is messed up with your current packages.  Try this:  sudo dpkg -P libsane && sudo apt-get install -f
[17:50] <zanzacar> ChogyDan: I am not sure really
[17:51] <zanzacar> Pici: Here was the result. http://pastebin.com/RvkqSFr5
[17:51] <ChogyDan> kat_: make sure you are using oracle's java, and not openjdk
[17:52] <kat_> oh    I thought openjdk7 was supposed to work. So, oracle's java then in the software center?
[17:53] <kat_> So, when I go online to Minecraft and download it, what to I pick to get it to download on my desktop as an icon?
[17:53] <ChogyDan> kat_: I would say, definitely try oracle's java, see if that works.  Also, run it from the command line so you can see what errors you are getting.
[17:54] <phelix> I just installed new ram and ubuntu doesn't seem to recognize it. But if I run lshw it sees it but not from like free -m and in the details in system settings
[17:54] <omerraja> Playback failure:
[17:54] <omerraja> DVDRead could not open the disc "/dev/sr0".
[17:54] <omerraja> Your input can't be opened:
[17:54] <omerraja> VLC is unable to open the MRL 'dvd:///dev/sr0'. Check the log for details.
[17:54] <eraggo> kat_: check my msg
[17:54] <omerraja> Hi folks!
[17:54] <ChogyDan> phelix: how much ram, and are you using 32bit or 64bit ubuntu?
[17:54] <phelix> 64bit and its 16gig
[17:55] <omerraja> Im having some iossies with dvds and vlc on 14.4
[17:55] <kat_> eraggo, what do you mean?
[17:55] <OerHeks> phelix, sounds like a issue for #hardware, are you sure your motherboard supports the ammount of ram?
[17:55] <omerraja> Im having some issues with dvds and vlc on 14.4
[17:55] <phelix> Linux rperry-ubuntu 3.13.0-32-generic #57-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jul 15 03:51:08 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:55] <phelix> yeah its hows 16 in the bios
[17:55] <kontoo> question: i installed some dependencies for monitorix and afterward the said package, some of that dependencies were already installed as it seems. how can i remove the newly introduced dependency packages? see: http://pastebin.com/e3nH0TVH
[17:56] <kontoo> feels like i just bloated my system and can't get rid of the bloatware
[17:56] <phelix> and it even shows 16 when i run lshw
[17:56] <eraggo> kat_: private chat or similar lol
[17:56] <kontoo> (i can't uninstall all dependencies because some were already installed and are needed by other programs)
[17:56] <phelix> OerHeks: Not sure how it would be a hardware issue if my BIOS shows the correct amount.
[17:56] <ChogyDan> kontoo: apt-get autoremove is a place to start
[17:56] <eraggo> kat_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Y3VWA72Az4&feature=youtu.be link i sent to you
[17:57] <omerraja> !
[17:57] <omerraja> anyone !
[17:57] <Jeffrey_f> kat_: you need the jar file (java file).  Once it is on your desktop, right click->properties......on the permissions tab, click the Execute checkbox....click ok and it should work
[17:57] <chris__> hi...when i talk on microphone on skype the sound is noisy...cracking. I need a way to fix it
[17:57] <kontoo> ChogyDan: dang! ur the man ;)
[17:57] <ChogyDan> np
[17:57] <kat_> How do I get it on my desktop, Jeffrey_f?
[17:57] <kontoo> long time ago i used the deb package system... archlinux user forever
[17:58] <kat_> kinda dumb here
[17:58] <kontoo> (but not on server...)
[17:58] <eraggo> kat_: did you download it from minecraft.net?
[17:58] <omerraja> Playback failure:
[17:58] <omerraja> DVDRead could not open the disc "/dev/sr0".
[17:58] <omerraja> Your input can't be opened:
[17:58] <omerraja> VLC is unable to open the MRL 'dvd:///dev/sr0'. Check the log for details.
[17:58] <zizen> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu, but somehow (despite being careful) I ended up formatting my Windows 8 partition. Is there any way I can recover my files, considering its now an ext4 filesystem?
[17:58] <omerraja> Can anyone please help me out with this>
[17:58] <kat_> ummm I think so.   I've downloaded it successfully on my kids other linux computers.
[17:59] <kontoo> awwww ok autoremove doesn't find anything because i had to install the monitorix package with dpkg -i && apt-get -f install
[17:59] <phelix> There anything else I can do to get ubuntu to recognize my new installed ram?
[17:59] <Jeffrey_f> kat_: https://s3.amazonaws.com/Minecraft.Download/launcher/Minecraft.jar ---  This will likely go to /Downloads       Just move the file to your desktop and follow the previous instructions I types
[17:59] <eraggo> kat_: if so; open your file browser and go to your Downloads folder. Drag-and-drop like you do in windows
[17:59] <ChogyDan> omerraja: try asking your whole question, all in one line.  and use a paste website for showing the error msgs
[17:59] <kat_> oh, so drag and drop
[18:00] <shwaiil> Q: I'm ssh to my remote server. My terminal timeout on small idle. This can be annoying as I'll have to ssh back, specially because I'm also sshfs. How to change this timeout or the idle ? Thank you!
[18:00] <kat_> o.k. will try again.   tanks!
[18:00] <streulma> Ubuntu reports on SSD, Uncorrectable ECC Count, 5 sectors, it's increasing! what does it mean? My SSD is shrunked already...
[18:00] <ChogyDan> kontoo: gtkorphan will search more thoroughly
[18:00] <OerHeks> phelix, pastebin " free -m "
[18:01] <kontoo> ChogyDan: does it work on cli?
[18:02] <kontoo> ChogyDan: http://askubuntu.com/questions/389382/command-line-tool-for-removing-orphaned-packages
[18:02] <kontoo> guess i found something
[18:02] <OerHeks> streulma, perform " sudo fstrim -v / " (it can take a while)
[18:02] <phelix> http://pastebin.com/RH9yNdba
[18:02] <ChogyDan> kontoo: not exactly.  It is a front end for deborphan, which is what you would use on the cli.  I don't know how to do that specifically...
[18:03] <mjuszcza1> Anyone here know anything about dh-make and debuild?
[18:04] <ChogyDan> mjuszcza1: I think there are a couple better rooms, like #ubuntu-motu
[18:05] <phelix> OerHeks: It should show 16gig
[18:05] <mjuszcza1> thanks!
[18:06] <OerHeks> phelix, what are the specs of your motherboard ?
[18:06] <animalroam> Why are so many packages not found now?  For example, I can't apt-get install curl
[18:06] <kontoo> ChogyDan: got deborphan to work, uninstalled a bunch of stuff
[18:07] <SchrodingersScat> !info curl | animalroam
[18:07] <SchrodingersScat> animalroam: must be you
[18:07] <animalroam> SchrodingersScat nope, tried on two vpses on different providers  running 12.04
[18:07] <Jeffrey_f> streulma: Is this the OS drive or a data drive?
[18:08] <animalroam> http://pastebin.com/bATLUYqG
[18:08] <animalroam> I could download it fine a month ago
[18:09] <streulma> Jeffrey_f buyed a few months ago
[18:09] <SchrodingersScat> animalroam: can you even ping the archive.ubuntu.com?
[18:09] <streulma> Jeffrey_f OS
[18:09] <OerHeks> animalroam, run apt-get update first ?
[18:09] <animalroam> already ran update
[18:10] <animalroam> it failed
[18:10] <Pici> animalroam: That paste says you're using Quantal, which is not 12.04, but 12.10. Which readed its EOL date on May 16th.
[18:10] <animalroam> and ping successful: http://pastebin.com/Gm1FKkia
[18:10] <animalroam> yh I meant 12.10 for this vps sorry
[18:10] <Pici> !12.10
[18:10] <phelix> OerHeks: Wow.it is limited at 8gig of memory.
[18:10] <phelix> stupid.. even the bios SHOWS 16 gigs its not letting me use it. That really sucks
[18:10] <OerHeks> phelix, there you go :-(
[18:11] <Jeffrey_f> streu
[18:11] <KiCKiN> I wish I could use ubuntu on my server
[18:11] <animalroam> result of apt-get update: http://pastebin.com/z2B2F81H
[18:11] <eraggo> KiCKiN: why you couldn't?
[18:12] <Jeffrey_f> streulma: The raw value shows the count of errors that could not be recovered using Error Correction Code (ECC).   What is the number you have for the value
[18:12] <KiCKiN> the default resolution for the shell isn't supported by my lcd's
[18:12] <Jeffrey_f> streulma: and where did you get this value from???
[18:12] <xangua> animalroam: install a supported ubuntu release
[18:13] <animalroam> xangua is that the reason?
[18:13] <streulma> Jeffrey_f: Disks app reports
[18:13] <eraggo> KiCKiN: o.O?!?
[18:13] <streulma> Jeffrey_f reports 5 sectors
[18:13] <KiCKiN> I am not sure how to change it before rebooting the installer... after reboot shell and gui resolution cause unsopported resolution on 19" standard lcd
[18:13] <streulma> before it stays at 1 Jeffrey_f
[18:14] <KiCKiN> it will take 1280x1024 from windows all day but not shell or gui on ubuntu desktop or server
[18:14] <Jeffrey_f> streulma: It is common to have errors.  On a consumer SSD, you will find that the SSD's are more prone to errors over an enterprise version of the save drive
[18:15] <KiCKiN> I need a server os I can use for downloading and filtering my email
[18:15] <streulma> it's fine Jeffrey_f ?
[18:15] <eraggo> KiCKiN: are you running server with "external" graphics card?
[18:16] <KiCKiN> no.. the rage2 8MB internal
[18:17] <bekks> KiCKiN: That card is that old that it isnt supported by any reasonable driver anymore.
[18:17] <KiCKiN> I may try it on the laptop I was just given as a test
[18:17] <eraggo> KiCKiN: that is very very old computer aye?
[18:17] <Jeffrey_f> streulma: 5 is a pretty low number.  It may increase, but it should be nothing to worry about
[18:17] <KiCKiN> bekks, that card is still default in most on-board server motherboard video even now
[18:18] <bekks> KiCKiN: Erm, it isnt. And it wasnt five years ago. I'm working with servers all day ;)
[18:18] <eraggo> KiCKiN: that's why you need ssh connection mate
[18:18] <KiCKiN> eraggo, 11 years.. even the new quad core xeon servers I am looking into that are 4 years old use same on-board video card
[18:19] <KeyboardNotFound> Can I change TX POWER on wifi (for edu purpose only )
[18:19] <KeyboardNotFound> ?
[18:20] <KiCKiN> I can do ssh... just need to be able to see the shell to get ssh and such configured and know when it is done booting
[18:20] <KiCKiN> dell 2950's show a similar video card on-board I believe
[18:21] <bekks> KiCKiN: Use the ubuntu server iso, install ssh server during installation, and basically you are done, after configuring the network during installation.
[18:22] <KiCKiN> will try that bekks... centos won't let me pop3 into the server to get mail after fetchmail grabs it
[18:22] <Gabriel_Santiago> hi, can anyone help me re: installing ubuntu server alongside windows (server 2008) on a server with a raid?
[18:23] <KiCKiN> making the os useless
[18:23] <KiCKiN> Gabriel, ESXi or VMWare Server?
[18:23] <KiCKiN> bekks, I'll try it in a bit, thanks again
[18:24] <streulma> I have a dual video card, Intel and ATI, I removed xserver-xorg-video-radeon, with the Intel I had no HDMI audio out, until I find out that I have to install pavucontrol to use it... Intel card is faster :)
[18:24] <bekks> KiCKiN: "Ubuntu" and "Windows", no ESXi and no EOL VMware Server ;)
[18:24] <KiCKiN> hehe
[18:24] <Gabriel_Santiago> I don't know either way, KiCKiN. Thinking that I'm well out of my depth.
[18:25] <KiCKiN> I use 2 servers, 1 for ubuntu, and 1 for win2k8
[18:25] <bekks> !dualboot | Gabriel_Santiago
[18:25] <KiCKiN> just been having issues getting the ubuntu server going...
[18:26] <peezybro> How can I save changes to iptables permanently? I tried service iptables save, but it did not work.
[18:26] <Gabriel_Santiago> I've actually hit a snag along the way. I have a USB set up with Ubuntu Server and installed it. My trouble came with the GRUB bootloader.
[18:26] <Gabriel_Santiago> Honestly, I think the Bootloader is the only problem now.
[18:26] <Busserl> peezybro: you output the current rules to a file
[18:27] <Busserl> peezybro: iptables-save and -restore
[18:27] <Alir3za> Hey
[18:27] <Alir3za> Any Body Here?
[18:27] <Alir3za> :D
[18:28] <KeyboardNotFound> yep
[18:28] <peezybro> Busserl: Thanks!
[18:28] <sheap> anyone know about preseed and/or sysv-rc? http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/145964/ubuntu-trusty-preseed-error
[18:28] <Alir3za> :)
[18:29] <viberto> hi
[18:30] <BrandonC> hey all
[18:30] <BrandonC> so i got lamp up
[18:30] <BrandonC> and im installing phpmyadmin
[18:30] <BrandonC> this site says to add extra security with..
[18:30] <BrandonC> configuring .htaccess file
[18:30] <akp> hey, i am trying to rebuild the wireshark package,
[18:30] <patrick__> i know its off topic but is there a trance or techno channel here on freenode?
[18:30] <viberto> some body know how intstall ultravnc on xubuntu?
[18:31] <akp> but when i use the debian/rules build i keep getting  CAP NOT FOUND error
[18:31] <akp> any advice?
[18:31] <BrandonC> says to use AuthUserFile /path/to/passwords/.htpasswd  .. where is decent place to put ?
[18:31] <BrandonC> i assume /path/to/passwords   is something for me to choose
[18:32] <SAA7160Dave> Hi, I have a HD72a Capture card. lspci reports it as a SAA7160. how do get drivers for this ?
[18:33] <Pici> 70
[18:34] <peezybro> I tried iptables-save and restarted my machine, it did not save the changes.
[18:36] <Alir3za> Any One here?
[18:36] <Alir3za> :-s
[18:37] <grobe0ba> peezybro, did you try iptables-restore after you rebooted?
[18:37] <Busserl> peezybro: iptables-save > myrules.txt, then you need to restore from that at each boot
[18:37] <Busserl> manually probably
[18:38] <Busserl> peezybro: I mean using a boot script
[18:38] <peezybro> That sucks you have to do that at each boot.
[18:39] <Busserl> peezybro: iptables itself won't do it, indeed.
[18:41] <Busserl> peezybro: you can probably use some gui or managment tool to do it for you.
[18:42] <KiCKiN> webmin works well
[18:42] <bekks> !webmin | KiCKiN
[18:42] <bekks> KiCKiN: Webmin doesnt work well at all :>
[18:43] <KiCKiN> really... works ok here
[18:43] <grobe0ba> KiCKiN, are you using a really outdated copy of ubuntu?
[18:43] <grobe0ba> if so, that explains it
[18:45] <Busserl> From my limited linux experience, and some general PC experience, I wouldn't touch it. ^^
[18:47] <bekks> I'm seconding Busserl, I wont touch it with a ten feet pole.
[18:47] <KiCKiN> 14.04 here
[18:47] <bekks> KiCKiN: Using webmin on 14.04 is a very safe way to break things entirely.
[18:47] <KiCKiN> the os isn't my issue... my 11 year old hardware is my issue
[18:48] <KiCKiN> using 14.04 on my hardware breaks things already... what else is useable on 14.04 to make a web admin system?
[18:48] <TJ-> bekks: Incorrect. I've been using webmin *extensively* since 2005 managing isolated Ubuntu servers with quite complex configurations and it has never yet caused any bugs or upgrade failures.
[18:49] <bekks> TJ-: Then I am wondering why it was dropped from the Debian and Ubuntu repos.
[18:49] <KiCKiN> bekks, they have their own apt repo
[18:50] <TJ-> bekks: Because *at that time* it was more RPM RHEL oriented and hadn't expanded its Debian support. Since Ubuntu got popular webmin/virtualmin/usermin support for Debian/Ubuntu style is very good.
[18:51] <bekks> TJ-: Well, I broke my last system using webmin in 2009 - since then, I wont touch it anymore :)
[18:52] <grobe0ba> i've never seen the use of such systems
[18:52] <KiCKiN> I'll get the install done with ssh enabled and then edit sources to set webmin and apt-get it and be ready
[18:52] <grobe0ba> always seemed like a crutch for people who can't be bothered to learn to edit a few files, imho
[18:53] <KiCKiN> bekks, ye of little faith to try again... in 2009 webmin was a rpm resource only
[18:53] <KiCKiN> grobe0ba.. makes it easy to use a better OS than windows for beginning sysadmins
[18:54] <grobe0ba> if they are beginning, then that is the best time for them to learn to do it right
[18:54] <grobe0ba> rather than become dependent on a crutch
[18:56] <KiCKiN> grobe0ba, many servers aren't in their office or bedroom any more... the server might be in a different state and webmin is way easier than a ssh typing all day
[18:58] <KiCKiN> I respect your opinion, but have a different opinion since I am a hardware person... the software is merely an add-on to me...
[18:59] <KiCKiN> I care less what software (OS, etc) is used on the hardware I build or refurbish...
[18:59] <bazhang> !ot
[18:59] <KiCKiN> that is the customers issue since I am not a coder...
[19:00] <KiCKiN> relax bazhang
[19:00] <bazhang> KiCKiN, take the chit chat elsewhere please
[19:01] <KiCKiN> I am on topic, as many have hardware issues with loading ubuntu on their pc hardware, and thus its part of ubuntu topic ;)
[19:01] <BrandonC> so ubunt live cd, says to press ctrl alt f1 and my screen went all gobbldy gook
[19:01] <bazhang> far from it. #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[19:01] <KiCKiN> ctrl alt f1 goes to shell mode
[19:01] <BrandonC> k tnx
[19:02] <BrandonC> it didnt like that
[19:03] <KiCKiN> BrandonC, bazhang doesn't seem to like me helping you with your ubuntu in here and thinks its off-topic... what a laugh to him imho
[19:03] <BrandonC> wait what?
[19:04] <BrandonC> i guess i can understand, boot sector isent really ubuntu yet
[19:04] <KiCKiN> read up and look for his nick
[19:04] <BrandonC> hardware also isent ubuntu
[19:04] <KiCKiN> bzhang can get over himself
[19:04] <jaynext> hi, I have a question? After some usage (opening 10+ tabs in google chrome), some 'Swap' is used. Swap usage is about 76 KiB now. How to bring it down to zero without rebooting? (and I have swappiness = 10).
[19:05] <Spec> jaynext: you could turn swap off
[19:05] <Spec> which forces it to flush it
[19:05] <KiCKiN> stop using more than 4 or so tabs in chrome and do not let it run in background under options
[19:05] <elfkris> i pxe boot a bunch of servers and i'd like to upgrade my 13.04 image to 14.04. anybody know how to do this? or do i need to create a whole new image based off 14.04?
[19:05] <Spec> jaynext: swapoff /path/to/swap
[19:05] <Spec> jaynext: but 76 KiB is not much in swap.
[19:05] <KiCKiN> elfkris, I would say new image
[19:06] <txdv> hello guys, there is this bluetooth app in the notification bar in ubuntu by default, can you please tell me how the application is called? I need the console application startup line
[19:06] <KiCKiN> safer that way
[19:07] <txdv> please just paste "ps aux | grep blue"
[19:08] <jaynext> ok, but I am more interested in what sys admins do, because linux servers are not booted (I think to a year). and if they turn off swap and if memory usage gets maximum, the system will rebooted automatically.
[19:08] <jaynext> *to=for
[19:09] <jaynext> and I think swap makes system slow
[19:09] <Jeeves_Moss> how do I make an upstart for Nagios?
[19:10] <k1l> jaynext: it will not reboot automatically. it will kill porgrams that use ram.
[19:10] <jaynext> oh i see.
[19:11] <rww> personally, I provision enough RAM for the system to work fine, and if something goes nuts I want it killed anyway
[19:11] <jaynext> so there isn't a way to make some Swap usage to zero without turning it off or rebooting.
[19:12] <jaynext> thank you all :)
[19:12] <k1l> swap is slow in comparison to ram. so to think that swap can extend the ram 1:1 is a trap. but there are things that dont mind beeing put on slower swap.
[19:12] <jaynext> for the help.
[19:12] <rww> jaynext: why do you care that you're using 76KB of swap
[19:13] <jhutchins> jaynext: The real measure of what's happening is to use the iostat program from sysstat and watch whether swap is being actively used.  Having some code parked there doesn't really hurt anyhing, it's rapid paging in and out that hurts performance.
[19:13] <jaynext> rww because some times when I use image processing in octave, swap usage comes close to 200 KiB which makes my computer slow
[19:14] <rww> jaynext: 200KB of swap usage is not making your computer slow.
[19:14] <jhutchins> jaynext: It would appear that you need more RAM to process the images you've chosen to work with then.
[19:14] <CarlFK> what is the apt-get do dump its cache?
[19:15] <jhutchins> jaynext: Again, use iostat to see if it's actively swapping or just buffering.
[19:15] <CarlFK> and how do I tell squid to shrink it's cache (0 bytes free.)
[19:15] <jaynext> yup jhutchins I am using 2010 built desktop with 2 GB ram.
[19:15] <jhutchins> jaynext: How big are the files you're editing?
[19:15] <jaynext> and I am student and cant afford brand new computer.
[19:16] <Rohan_m> Is there any other way to copy data from one file to another without sudo prevelage ?
[19:16] <jhutchins> jaynext: Easy to add ram, and for an older computer probably cheap.
[19:16] <jhutchins> jaynext: http://www.pricewatch.com/system_memory/
[19:16] <LordXe-gnu> Rohan_m: why would you need root to copy a file?
[19:16] <bugtraq> Hello All :]
[19:17] <rww> which is entirely orthogonal to the fact that if you're only using 200KB of swap, RAM is not your problem
[19:17] <ikonia> Rohan_m: sort your permissions out
[19:17] <jaynext> jhutchins .. I usually do octave for fun and was using octave as matlab clone to get temporary job at university as junior research fellow
[19:17] <jhutchins> Rohan_m: Yes, of course.  Unless the files are not public writable or readable and belong to another user.
[19:18] <CarlFK> apt-get clean .. yay., 45mb free!
[19:18] <jhutchins> jaynext: If you don't have the ability to invest in new hardware, and you need to do tasks that use more than 2G of RAM, swap is the ideal answer, and a little performance hit isn't a bad compromise (although as k1l says you're probably not hitting that point yet.
[19:18] <_Crash_Laptop> hi, got a problem when trying to upgrade from 12.04LTS via the upgrade manager. I'm getting which seems to be dependency issues - http://bit.ly/1njjSdB
[19:18] <kat_> I can't seem to get Minecraft.jar to open even with it marked executable, and I have OpenJDK7 Java to open it with. What's wrong?
[19:19] <jhutchins> Rohan_m: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[19:19] <_Crash_Laptop> kat_, it says on the website in the download section how to open it
[19:19] <kat_> what website are you talking about?
[19:20] <_Crash_Laptop> kat_, the minecraft website
[19:20] <kat_> I downloaded it for LInux on that site. Is that right?
[19:20] <Rohan_m> jhutchins: i 'm tryin to copy file in home directory  using "cat" and my user is www-data
[19:21] <OerHeks> kat_, you have been told, to use oracle JAVA, not openjdk..
[19:21] <jaynext> Yeah it is not affecting the system that much but I surely have some lag whenever swap usage is more.... anyways I got the answer.
[19:21] <jaynext>  thanks jhutchins, rww for the help ... :)
[19:21] <jhutchins> Rohan_m: The "correct" command to copy a file is cp, although you can redirect cat to a file in order to copy the data.
[19:22] <kat_> I tried that. It went to the downloads, and I don't know how to open Minecraft with it. How do I do that? Or do I have to make IT executable too?
[19:22] <jhutchins> Rohan_m: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[19:22] <_Crash_Laptop> kat_, it tells you in black and white how to run it
[19:22] <root___> hello
[19:22] <OerHeks> !rootirc
[19:23] <kat_> hummm o.k. back to square 1 with Oracle. Oh, maybe I got the wrong one. I look a litte further.
[19:23] <Rohan_m> jhutchins: i was trying to copy a file from /var/www/ to /home directory i made a shell script to copy file but i was running all the commands as www-data so it gave me Permission Denied
[19:23] <ikonia> Rohan_m: how many times
[19:23] <_Crash_Laptop> kat_, try... java -jar Minecraft.jar
[19:23] <_Crash_Laptop> in terminal
[19:23] <ikonia> Rohan_m: stop trying to copy things to other peoples home directories
[19:24] <ikonia> Rohan_m: I must have told you this 10 times now
[19:24] <jhutchins> Rohan_m: So you'd want to run it as the target directory user, or use group permissions to grant write acces to both users.
[19:24] <ikonia> Rohan_m: you can't run commands as the user www-data because it doesn't have a valid shell account
[19:24] <kat_> where, Crash_Laptop?
[19:24] <_Crash_Laptop> kat_, in the terminal
[19:24] <kat_> k
[19:24] <liquidAnger> hi
[19:25] <Rohan_m> ikonia: there is no other people its just me ? is there any solution should i edit /etc/passwd ?
[19:25] <_Crash_Laptop> kat_, make sure the Minecraft.jar is inside your home directory for your user
[19:25] <Rohan_m> jhutchins: i just want permission
[19:25] <ikonia> Rohan_m: I'm not interested if there are "other people" - I've told you this 10 times, it's not about other people
[19:25] <ikonia> Rohan_m: it's about how the permissions are designed
[19:26] <kat_> It says it's unable to get Minecraft.jar file
[19:26] <ikonia> Rohan_m: you have permissions to your own home directory - so you can do what you want
[19:26] <Rohan_m> ikonia: oh my bad i'm just new to this architecture !
[19:26] <_Crash_Laptop> Anybody up for helping with an upgrade issue?
[19:26] <ikonia> Rohan_m: then listen when people help you
[19:26] <ikonia> Rohan_m: instead of ignore advice and hit the same problem, 10 times
[19:26] <Rohan_m> ikonia: yeah ! i'm newbie so i dont know much
[19:27] <ikonia> Rohan_m: again, so listen when people help you
[19:27] <Rohan_m> ikonia: Yes
[19:27] <apcrush> Can anyone help me? New Ubuntu user, WiFi adapter proprietary driver not installing...wifi adapter not working
[19:27] <_Crash_Laptop> kat_, copy this ito the terminal
[19:28] <_Crash_Laptop> kat_,          cd ~/
[19:28] <_Crash_Laptop> kat_, wget https://s3.amazonaws.com/Minecraft.Download/launcher/Minecraft.jar
[19:28] <_Crash_Laptop> kat_, java -jar Minecraft.jar
[19:29] <kat_> It didn't do anything in the terminal
[19:29] <jhutchins> apcrush: What chipset?
[19:29] <kat_> and i got minecraft from that site, Crash Laptop
[19:29] <jhutchins> apcrush: Which release of Ubuntu?
[19:29] <apcrush> bcm4312 by broadcom jhutchins
[19:30] <jhutchins> apcrush: Should work with the default drivers.
[19:30] <apcrush> jhutchins Not sure, most recent and full update install 10 minutes ago
[19:30] <jhutchins> apcrush:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[19:30] <apcrush> Will read, thanks jhutchins!
[19:31] <kat_> o.k. now that last command in the terminal did something there. Now, what do I do?
[19:32] <_Crash_Laptop> kat_, run "java -version" in the terminal, without the quotes, does it give a version etc?
[19:32] <apcrush> Sorry jhutchins that is actually BCM43142
[19:33] <kat_> I don't have oracle anymore, because I deleted it awhile ago, so what are we doing? o.k. this is the version in the terminal  1.7.0_55
[19:33] <_Crash_Laptop> good good
[19:33] <kat_> but I went back to the software center and got rid of it a bit ago, so how is the terminal showing it?
[19:34] <_Crash_Laptop> kat_, its obviously still installed
[19:34] <kat_> so, now what?
[19:34] <_Crash_Laptop> kat_, make sure you are in the right directory where minecraft is downloaded and run "java -jar Minecraft.jar" it should launch
[19:35] <kat_> well, I moved it around. First it was in downloads, then I moved it to the desktop, and now it is at home.
[19:35] <kat_> where should it be?
[19:35] <jhutchins> apcrush: That page still knows more about it than I do.  Been about six years since I had to do anything with a broadcom manually.
[19:36] <_Crash_Laptop> kat_, it doesnt matter, just put it somewhere easy like /home/yourusername
[19:36] <jesse__> Chickens
[19:36] <kat_> ummm I am so not used to Ubuntu. I had Linux Lite before, so what do I do? I'm sorry
[19:36] <cschneid> upstart is being phased out? What's the replacement?
[19:37] <_Crash_Laptop> kat_, move Minecraft.jar into /home/yourusername
[19:38] <kat_> It
[19:38] <rww> cschneid: systemd
[19:38] <kat_> It's in my home directory with the downloads and the desktop and music etc.
[19:39] <BrandonC> seems recommende boot repair didnt fix my disk boot failiur
[19:39] <k1l_> cschneid: but that takes some time. 16.04 is the target for full standard.
[19:39] <_Crash_Laptop> kat_, good! now in the terminal, type in "java -jar Minecraft.jar"
[19:39] <kat_> k
[19:39] <_Crash_Laptop> kat_, it may take a little bit for the minecraft launcher to load
[19:39] <cschneid> k1l_: should I just keep using upstart?  The cassandra init.d script I have is stupid and I need to rewrite it. Might as well stick with upstart for now?
[19:41] <k1l_> cschneid: for the releases there will still be upstart as standard. so for now use that. in the long run they will switch to systemd. but its even not installable in 14.04 so far
[19:41] <DJones> !test
[19:42] <cschneid> k1l_: ahh, didn't realize it's not even installable yet - thought it was further along.  We're on 14.04 for a few years, so just stick with that
[19:42] <cschneid> thanks for the help
[19:43] <_Crash_Laptop> Is anyone available to help with an upgrade because of dependency issues?
[19:43] <ikonia> _Crash_Laptop: what sort of dependency issue ?
[19:44] <_Crash_Laptop> ikonia, precisely = http://bit.ly/1njjSdB
[19:44] <_Crash_Laptop> not exactly sure how to make heads or tales
[19:45] <_Crash_Laptop> ikonia, its an upgrade from 12.04 via the upgrade manager
[19:45] <ikonia> cschneid: that looks like you've got a PPA installed
[19:45] <ikonia> _Crash_Laptop: upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 - shouldn' tbe available until 14.04.1
[19:45] <apcrush> Can anyone help? I am attempting to install drivers needed for WiFi adapter, but Ubuntu is asking that I insert 14.04 Trusty Tahr amd64. I have no disk for this, and loaded ubuntu from jump drive
[19:46] <_Crash_Laptop> ikonia, well this says otherwise lol
[19:46] <_Crash_Laptop> ikonia, seems to be HWE
[19:46] <Rohan_m> Hello anyone working on USART module ?
[19:46] <ikonia> _Crash_Laptop: do you have any PPA's or 3rd party PPAs ?
[19:46] <ikonia> someone else had a conflict with HWE yesterday
[19:47] <lolmaus> Is there a command to enable/disable a cronjob (a file in /etc/cron.weekly) without moving the file manually? Something like a2ensite or ifup
[19:47] <_Crash_Laptop> ikonia, hmmmm, not sure but i'll double check
[19:48] <raj_> hey!
[19:49] <_Crash_Laptop> ikonia, got an "extras.ubuntu.com" in the sources.list but thats there by default, i haven't added anything to this file before
[19:49] <ikonia> _Crash_Laptop: remove the HWE packages then
[19:49] <raj_> i want to contribute to ubuntu
[19:49] <_Crash_Laptop> ikonia, i'm not sure what they are
[19:49] <raj_> i did read  about the different ways to contribute
[19:50] <charany1> Hi all, I already have ubuntu 12.10 installed in my system and I am trying to install 14.04 from a bootable usb,but I want to know if I select install ubuntu with windows,1)will it be safe
[19:50] <charany1> ?
[19:50] <ikonia> _Crash_Laptop: should be listed in the package manager, basically newer kernels
[19:50] <ikonia> _Crash_Laptop: although that error isn't on the kernels
[19:50] <ikonia> charany1: do you mean Wubi ?
[19:50] <sheap> how would I set the $PATH variable in a preseed?
[19:50] <charany1> yes
[19:50] <modemmff> please join ##etc it is a channel for talking about ubuntu and tech support
[19:50] <modemmff> join ##etc now
[19:50] <modemmff> please join ##etc
[19:50] <modemmff> ##etc is good
[19:51] <jepeltw> lolmaus, chmod -x filename might work
[19:51] <_Crash_Laptop> ikonia, yeah i get an "new hardware support is available" in the manager and when i click install it gives me a button to upgrade, but then it just gives me that error i showed you from the screenshot
[19:51] <_Crash_Laptop> kat_, did it work?
[19:52] <charany1> thanks ,modemmff going to ##etc
[19:52] <raj_> i am in college and need a mentor to guide or get me started on ubuntu contribution. I have no clue about it. Can anyone help?
[19:52] <_Crash_Laptop> raj,Google
[19:53] <xangua> !contribute | raj_ _Crash_Laptop
[19:53] <kat_> NO! Well, remember that I deleted oracle awhile back, and then I got JDK back from the software. In the terminal, it is stuck while loading after getting "sellected default".
[19:54] <kat_> like it needs to load more.
[19:55] <jhutchins> kat_: You could install the JDK from Ubuntu...
[19:55] <kat_> I got it from the Ubuntu Software
[19:55] <_Crash_Laptop> ikonia, how did the other guy get the HWe fixed?
[19:55] <raj_> @Crash_Laptop- i would love to use Google and have been infact as of now. @ubottu - I have already checked out these links. The thing is I want to show it as my academic project rather than the cliched projects proposed by my professor and I find it risky in just trying a hand at it.
[19:55] <jhutchins> kat_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[19:56] <ikonia> _Crash_Laptop: removed the packages
[19:56] <ikonia> _Crash_Laptop: booted into older kernel
[19:56] <ikonia> _Crash_Laptop: but that dependency looks different to his
[19:56] <_Crash_Laptop> ikonia, yeah i'm always unique when it comes to problems :P
[19:57] <jhutchins> raj_: 1) @ is not a valid irc token; 2)ubottu is a "bot".
[19:58] <aramus> Hi there, I recently cloned my harddrive using the DD command and now whenever i try to boot I get the error Alert! /dev/disk/by-uuid... does not exist
[19:58] <raj_> jhutchins_: okay! thanks for that! :P
[20:03] <schultza> What channel do I go to for asking questions on gnome-shell?
[20:05] <Busserl> aramus: I think you need to chroot from a live cd, if it is not booting anymore. Then change UUID in /etc/fstab, then sudo update-grub.
[20:07] <Busserl> aramus: http://askubuntu.com/questions/171446/how-to-fix-the-uuid-in-grub-after-restore-from-another-machine
[20:08] <aramus> ok thanks Busser
[20:09] <Karmahacker> Hi all how i could got all updates to  ubuntu 12.10 ?
[20:10] <bodhi_zazen> Karmahacker: 12.10 is at eol, so no supported and there are no updates. Upgrade or install a new version
[20:11] <eflynn> is 14.04.1 out
[20:11] <ikonia> eflynn: what does it say on ubuntu.com
[20:11] <Karmahacker> bodhi_zazen  yep but i can't apt-get install update-manager-core
[20:12] <eflynn> ikonia: scheduled for july 24th
[20:12] <ikonia> eflynn: right - so there is your answer
[20:12] <bodhi_zazen> Karmahacker: sort of pointless to go 12.10 -> 13.04 -> 13.10 -> 14.04 , most of those are at eol and lots or potential errors
[20:12] <ikonia> eflynn: information like that is freely available by checking official sources
[20:13] <bodhi_zazen> Just do a fresh install of 14.04, do not format / and your data in home will be preserved
[20:13] <eflynn> ikonia: yeah but it’s looking like they released early
[20:13] <Karmahacker> bodhi_zazen  i have 38 servers )))
[20:13] <ikonia> eflynn: why is it looking like that ?
[20:13] <eflynn> ikonia: because i have 14.04.1
[20:13] <ikonia> eflynn: where ?
[20:14] <eflynn> ikonia: sigh… i just upgraded and got the point release
[20:14] <ikonia> eflynn: how did you upgrade ?
[20:14] <eflynn> ikonia: dist-upgrade
[20:14] <ikonia> eflynn: and you didn't need the -d option ?
[20:14] <Karmahacker> bodhi_zazen that what i want to do...  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SaucyUpgrades  here they says
[20:14] <eflynn> ikonia: that’s do-release-upgrade, that’s different
[20:14] <ikonia> eflynn: ahh sorry you mean dist-upgraded a 14.04 install
[20:14] <ikonia> eflynn: sorry missunderstood
[20:15] <ikonia> eflynn: so if you do lsb_release -a you now get 14.04.1
[20:15] <eflynn> ikonia: yeah
[20:15] <bodhi_zazen> Karmahacker: well, considering 13.10 is going eol in 2 weeks, what is the point ?
[20:15] <randint> hello, I'm on Lubuntu 32-bit. I used this tutorial (http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-install-nvidia-graphics-driver-in-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat) to install graphics drivers on NVIDIA GeForce MX420. after restart I couldn't choose any resolutions than 640x480. now the letters are so small and the icons are huge. any suggestions on how I could change resolution?
[20:15] <ikonia> eflynn: fantastic so ubuntu don't stick to their own shedcule
[20:16] <bodhi_zazen> Karmahacker: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/91815/how-to-install-software-or-upgrade-from-old-unsupported-release
[20:16] <bodhi_zazen> but you are on your own if it breaks ;)
[20:16] <Karmahacker> bodhi_zazen thanks will chek it )
[20:17] <Karmahacker> bodhi_zazen i have no choice 38 vsrvers need to be update  dont want to think about  re-install it :(((
[20:17] <BrandonC> is grub only used if you dual boot?
[20:17] <eflynn> ikonia: well now you know, you heard it first
[20:17] <newbie|3> I've gotten rid of basically everthing associated with wine and with wine1.6  Only some png pictures are left.  Still problems with that partial installation.  Any more ideas?
[20:18] <ikonia> eflynn: someone just raised a good point, you've not got the proposed repos enabled have you
[20:18] <ikonia> lookinat the repos on http - it looks like you've not, but it's worth asking
[20:18] <eeee> BrandonC: no.
[20:18] <k1l_> BrandonC: no. its used for every sort of boot. but on ubuntu only its hidden by default (since you dont want to choose anyway)
[20:18] <eflynn> ikonia: have trusty and trusty-updates — running official cloud image
[20:19] <bodhi_zazen> Karmahacker: I highly suggest you go with 14.04 , and I would not advise you run Ubuntu beyond EOL, not really best practice
[20:19] <BrandonC> so if im having boot issues re install grub with live cd?
[20:19] <jere> for a kernel module to be portable, it must be able to be compiled against any kernel source, correct?
[20:19] <k1l_> BrandonC: depends on the issues.
[20:20] <Karmahacker> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SaucyUpgrades
[20:20] <Karmahacker> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TrustyUpgrades
[20:20] <Karmahacker> bodhi_zazen  that what i want to do
[20:20] <BrandonC> after post i get DISK BOOT FAILURE... k1l_
[20:21] <k1l_> BrandonC: do you see the disk in bios?
[20:21] <Karmahacker>  bodhi_zazen  they suggest  12.10 >  13.10 >   then   13.10 to 14.04
[20:22] <randint> hello, I'm on Lubuntu 32-bit. I used this tutorial (http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-install-nvidia-graphics-driver-in-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat) to install graphics drivers on NVIDIA GeForce MX420. after restart I couldn't choose any resolutions than 640x480. now the letters are so small and the icons are huge. any suggestions on how I could change resolution?
[20:22] <Karmahacker> but i cant install  install update-manager-core
[20:22] <Ziber> So, I'm trying to come up with a way to retro-fit a server with LVM on it's filesystem. There's no easy way to do this, is there?
[20:22] <k1l_> BrandonC: that sounds like a cable or hardware problem. not a software one
[20:23] <bodhi_zazen> Karmahacker: see the link I gave you from askubuntu
[20:23] <jepeltw> Ziber, as in, take a server that does not use LVM and then make it use LVM?
[20:23] <BrandonC> i just had it runing last night, left it, in morning it wouldnt wake from sleep so i had to hard power it, and got that message k1l_
[20:23] <Ziber> Yes.
[20:23] <jere> for a kernel module to be portable, it must be able to be compiled against any kernel source, correct?
[20:23] <Ziber> I'm gonna head home and see if I can figure this out.
[20:24] <brasileiro> hi everyone! I'm having a few problems with my laptop that I think may be BIOS related... does anyone know how to perform a BIOS update without a Windows station? I'm thinking about BartPE but kinda afraid it goes south... any toughs? the BIOS file is this one: http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/Drivers/DriversDetails?driverId=FJY72&fileId=3290558924&osCode=BIOSA&productCode=inspiron-17r-se-7720&languageCode=EN&categoryId=BI
[20:25] <jepeltw> Ziber, you can't do it in place, so you would need to tar up the entire system, delete your partitions, create an LVM PV and LVs, then restore the entire system
[20:25] <ikonia> brasileiro: talk to the hardware vendor support
[20:26] <widmo> Hi, I've got a problem with qtcreator on ubuntu 14.04 (with unity) - hotkeys like ctrl+f4, ctrl+shift+u are not working
[20:27] <widmo> Is there a way to fix it?
[20:29] <Joe_CoT> Any reason why kernel log messages on 14.04 would have a completely wrong date, far in the future? I found this one post about it, but no solutions http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2223834
[20:29] <sean__> hi!
[20:29] <dusf> with clonezilla restore parts, if you back up all partitions on a dual boot system, once restoring, can you opt to only restore say the windows partitions linux or do you have to restore them all?
[20:30] <ikonia> Joe_CoT: standard 14.04 install on hardware local to you ?
[20:31] <Joe_CoT> ikonia, installed on EC2 from a standard Ubuntu AMI
[20:31] <ikonia> there we go then
[20:31] <ikonia> it's possible the kernel (not your kernel as it's a shared kernel) is not in the time sync
[20:31] <ikonia> so your kernel events are out of sync
[20:32] <ikonia> Joe_CoT: maybe worth asking amazon support
[20:32] <Joe_CoT> I'll give that a try. thanks
[20:32] <Busserl> Joe_CoT: does the server get time from ntp? As far as I know, Amazon does not provide time sync to their vms.
[20:32] <kontoo> what mailserver would you guys recommend that is easy to setup and compatible with fail2ban?
[20:33] <Joe_CoT> Busserl, The server does indeed get time from NTP. The server time is correct. All my other log entries have the correct time. only the kernel log entries are off by 2 months
[20:33] <Busserl> Joe_CoT: I see, sorry, no idea.
[20:35] <parabool> hi guys. i want to install ubuntu, i am downloading the .iso file. the problem is, i have a cd-r cd fuji. i think it is only 800MB, but the iso is bigger... i have network connection; is there another way? thank you (32-bit btw - in french)
[20:35] <jhutchins> parabool: I think there's a netinstall image available.
[20:36] <parabool> jhutchins: where? i've looked for that, but i can't find them
[20:36] <xangua> parabool: so get a dvd or a usb stick
[20:36] <parabool> xangua: can't
[20:36] <toyotapie> untu-server
[20:36] <adamcunnington> Hi, in 14.04, how can I add a folder to Places in Nautilus, I can't drag and drop.
[20:37] <Pici> parabool: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[20:38] <jhutchins> parabool: Well, here's one alternat method using grub4dos: http://www.instantfundas.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html
[20:40] <parabool> Oh but, I wasn't aware i could install a .iso file on 2 cd's and install from that? if that's the case, there is no problem. i have more than 1cd
[20:40] <dusf> with clonezilla restore parts, if you back up all partitions on a dual boot system, once restoring, can you opt to only restore say the windows partitions or the linux partitions or do you have to restore them all? basically i am wondering if i can use partclone to backup all partitions and selectively restore them if necessary, or do i have to separately backup each set of partitions?
[20:40] <jhutchins> parabool: Here's the minimal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[20:40] <parabool> jhutchins: i will use 2cd's to burn the iso(i wasn't aware i coudl do that and still use the .iso as installer media)
[20:41] <adamcunnington> .mp4 files are still opening in an application despite the fact that the default applications in settings for both music and video are VLC player
[20:41] <jhutchins> parabool: Ah, minimal install is what you use for netinstall.
[20:42] <Busserl> dusf: usually dual boot and partition backup are separate things. If you decide to restore only one of them, the only thing you might need is to recreate a proper boot manager. Both windows and Linux can do it.
[20:43] <parabool> jhutchins: yeah i know. but i need the install in french. and if i can install with 2cd's, that's the easiest
[20:43] <jhutchins> parabool: Best of luck then.
[20:43] <parabool> thank you!
[20:43] <l1th1um> hey i have a question about a laptop wifi card anyone good with portable hardware?
[20:43] <Busserl> parabool: I doubt you can split the iso onto two media, if that is what you meant.
[20:43] <jhutchins> Busserl: See previous url.
[20:44] <dusf> Busserl: ah but i am already backing up the boot partitions, so restoration works
[20:44] <Busserl> jhutchins: good luck then :)
[20:45] <dusf> Busserl: i am just wondering if i clonezilla all partitions together once restoring can i restore partitions selectively
[20:46] <Busserl> dusf: The boot partition depends somewhat on what os is installed. Windows has its boot partition as well as linux. Then the boot manager might also be installed to the hdd's mbr. Whatever you do, restoring the boot process should be a simple task, in case you need it.
[20:46] <parabool> i've read other things now... so what i want to do: i have cd's 700 Mo. the.iso is 940Mo. Can i burn a part on the iso on one cd, the burner asks me then to put in another cd. when i have 2 cd's, i put the first in the drive, install etc, and ubuntu asks me to insert second cd ? (basically like any multiple-cd software) ? want to be sure as not to waste time/cd's
[20:46] <adamcunnington> .mp4 files are still opening in an application despite the fact that the default applications in settings for both music and video are VLC player
[20:46] <jepeltw> parabool, the ubuntu installer has no support for that as far as I know, sorry
[20:47] <parabool> damn
[20:47] <dusf> Busserl: i have restored sucessfully before just by restoring the windows partitions, or linux partitions individually
[20:47] <Busserl> dusf: cool then :)
[20:47] <parabool> is there a french minimalCD? i need the install in french;;; but i can't seem to find it
[20:48] <BrandonC> ok, so i got t his . http://paste.ubuntu.com/7838402/
[20:48] <BrandonC> what do i look at to fix boot failure?
[20:48] <Busserl> parabool: the installer always offers you to choose the language for the installed system.
[20:49] <sheap> why is preseed such a biznatch
[20:49] <jhutchins> sheap: It's a complex problem.
[20:49] <parabool> Busserl: thanks. ubuntu website says UEFI mode is not supported via netinstall. i am trying to install on an old laptop; that used to have windows vista. i guess that is just BIOS ?
[20:50] <jhutchins> parabool: EFI would be unlikely.
[20:50] <krnl`> how can i install 14.04 desktop using software raid? i can't find alternate downloads on the website anymore.
[20:50] <parabool> great
[20:50] <Busserl> parabool: can't be sure, but old laptop sound like no EFI/UEFI involved.
[20:50] <sheap> jhutchins: it's just straight up ignoring what I put in
[20:51] <jhutchins> sheap: I haven't worked with it (I've used kickstart), but it's real picky about syntax and order.
[20:52] <adamcunnington> Hi, in 14.04, how can I add a folder to Places in Nautilus, I can't drag and drop.
[20:53] <xangua> adamcunnington: you mean the sidebar¿
[20:53] <sheap> jhutchins: It had the wrong repos so I added the correct ones, they worked. Then 'insserv' package for some reason is not installed in any path so sysv-rc fails because the command 'insserv' isnt in a path, so I add a "late_command" to symlink insseerv and now the repos dont work!
[20:53] <jepeltw> adamcunnington, navigate to the folder and then choose Bookmarks -> Add Bookmark from the menu?
[20:54] <rE-BoOt> hi
[20:54] <rE-BoOt> join my channel to help me please its #gamedevhelp
[20:54] <rE-BoOt> i really need help
[20:55] <OerHeks> rE-BoOt, ask here
[20:55] <parabool> using the minimalCD, after install i'll still have by standard a Unity DE installed, everything the same ?
[20:56] <OerHeks> parabool, yes
[20:56] <parabool> thx
[20:57] <lolmaus> jepeltw: thx
[20:57] <rE-BoOt> are there any lua scriptable game engines whicha re free ?/
[20:57] <jepeltw> lolmaus, was that the /etc/cron.weekly thing?
[20:58] <Pici> rE-BoOt: OerHeks assumed it was an Ubuntu question that you had.  Please find a proper channel to ask this in. #freenode might be able to help you find one.
[20:58] <rE-BoOt> ok
[20:59] <lolmaus> jepeltw: yup
[21:00] <adamcunnington> xangua: yes
[21:00] <adamcunnington> jepeltw: where is bookmarks?
[21:00] <xangua> adamcunnington: in the menu bar
[21:01] <adamcunnington> xangua: i don't see that - are you referring to within nautilus?
[21:01] <adamcunnington> xangua: i have places, devices and network
[21:01] <OerHeks> !info love
[21:01] <OerHeks> oh he is gone
[21:02] <adamcunnington> OerHeks: can you help?
[21:02] <adamcunnington> OerHeks .mp4 files are still opening in a non-default  application despite the fact that the default applications in settings for both music and video are VLC player
[21:08] <BrandonC>  so im reinstalling ubuntu. and when i go to something else and remove partitions and hit back it puts partitions back on..
[21:08] <OerHeks> adamcunnington, click on th *.mp4, open with ... and you will see vlc not on top, click the 1st application on top with right mouse > forget, so VLC is on top
[21:08] <layan911> hola
[21:09] <BrandonC> and my report says i have a sda2 , but ubuntu install only sees sda1 and sda5
[21:09] <layan911> alguno sabe como instalar GALA de ElementaryOS en Ubuntu 14.04?
[21:09] <eeee> !es | layan911
[21:09] <adamcunnington> OerHeks: tried that but it won't remove Handbrake from the list
[21:10] <OerHeks> adamcunnington, sorry, i have no clue then
[21:11] <TJ-> BrandonB: sda2 is an Extended Partition, an additional Partition Table linked to the primary table... it isn't a file-system container, it only hold additional partitions
[21:11] <OerHeks> this is the only method to force all movies/music to vls AFAIK
[21:11] <TJ-> BrandonC: Grrr, tab-completion! sda2 is an Extended Partition, an additional Partition Table linked to the primary table... it isn't a file-system container, it only hold additional partitions
[21:11] <adamcunnington> OerHeks: i fixed it in properties by resetting and then changing default application, must have been some bug before
[21:11] <adamcunnington> OerHeks: also, do you know how to add a folder to places in nautilus in 14.04?
[21:12] <BrandonC> TJ-, if i ues entire disk for ubuntu, how many sda should i see?
[21:12] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Look'n at the boot-info report, can't put 6 pounds of salt in a 5 pound bag -> the extended partition is too large for that 40 gig hard drive.
[21:12] <kaurubuntu> salve a tutti
[21:12] <eeee> !it | kaurubuntu
[21:13] <TJ-> Bashing-om: It is? Did you do the calculations?
[21:13] <johny12> hi
[21:14] <xMopxShell> is it possible to upgrade a ubuntu container with do-release-upgrade? or does that just break it?
[21:14] <OerHeks> adamcunnington, all custum entries goes to bookmarkt, you need to edit a user-dirs-dirs file >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/450207/how-to-move-downloads-folder-from-bookmarks-to-places
[21:14] <adamcunnington> OerHeks: thanks
[21:14] <OerHeks> have fun
[21:15] <layan911> how to port Metacity Themes to Unity?
[21:16] <Bashing-om> TJ-: BrandonC semi-so .. sda1 is 35 gigs, and the extended partition appears to be slightly larger than 5 gigs.
[21:16] <BrandonC> wont ubuntu do what it must when it installs?
[21:17] <BrandonC> wait, so wheni get the option to choose, update ubuntu, install next to , install over, or something else... if i chooose install over,, its not going to fix partitions?
[21:18] <TJ-> BrandonB: Bashing-om: I did the sector calculations on the fdisk output at line 551 and they all checked out, was trying to figure out the "Partition outside the disk detected" message.
[21:19] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: I would think so .. that the install wizard will freshly set-up and install ubuntu.  ( though might be able at this time to just re-do the extended & swap partition) ..
[21:19] <BrandonC> so make ext3 for 30gb, and swap for 4 gb?
[21:19] <Bashing-om> TJ-: // BrandonC lemme go look again at the poutput where I was figuring ..
[21:20] <BrandonC> i only have gig ddr ram so was told to make swap 4 gig
[21:20] <dypsilon> What FTP server would you recommend for a 14.04. server?
[21:20] <TJ-> Bashing-om: BrandonB Disk declares 78,165,360 sectors; last sector showin is 78,163,967. I've cross-checked the block-lengths against the calculated ending sectors and they are all correct, and I can't see any partitions overlapping each other
[21:22] <TJ-> Bashing-om: I *believe* "Partition outside the disk detected" refers t /dev/sr0 (DVD) when looking at "parted -lm" output at line 489
[21:23] <Bashing-om> TJ-: I too stand corrected -> 4.900390625 GB is the correct size ... humm ...so where is that " Error: Can't have a partition outside the disk! " comming from, is the question. line 503 .
[21:23] <TJ-> BrandonC: What is the symptom of the failure to boot  - I missed that if you described it ?
[21:24] <BrandonC> after post, DISK BOOT FAILURE
[21:24] <BrandonC> pc was on last night and im assuming went to sleep.. could not wake it this morning with mouse or keyboard so hard powered it
[21:24] <BrandonC> then thats what i got when i turned it on
[21:24] <TJ-> BrandonC: That sounds like the system BIOS reporting it... which infers that sector 0 of the hard disk isn't being read.
[21:25] <TJ-> BrandonC: Has the BIOS boot device order changed?
[21:25] <BrandonC> umm.
[21:25] <BrandonC> when?
[21:25] <nishanth> I turn off my computer and turned it ON today, for some reason the display is zoomed in any ideas on how to fix this
[21:25] <BrandonC> byitself?
[21:25] <BrandonC> changed from default?
[21:26] <TJ-> BrandonC: Yes, it is possible :) BIOS NVRAM settings can get corrupted due to a variety of issues. If in doubt I generally reset the BIOS to factory defaults, and then reconfigure any custom settings required.
[21:26] <BrandonC> should i boot gparted to see things?
[21:28] <TJ-> BrandonC: No, we can see the partitioning fine, and as far as it goes, it looks OK. Can you tell us the make/model of the PC?
[21:29] <BrandonC> http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1369&page=9
[21:29] <BrandonC> http://www.cnet.com/products/ati-radeon-9600-pro-agp-8x-256mb/
[21:30] <BrandonC> Athlon 2400+
[21:30] <BrandonC> 1gig ddr
[21:30] <BrandonC> wd400 hd
[21:31] <fidelix> Hello folks. I'm blacklisting my Radeon card (secondary) on modprobe.d/blacklist.conf, but when I reboot my screen freezes after a bunch of error messages.
[21:35] <Bashing-om> fidelix: Hybrid grahocs ? Bios controlable ? what is the primary graphics and what graphics driver is loaded ? .. what release are you running ? - release 14.04 has improved support for hybrid graphics.
[21:36] <nishanth> for some reason my Desktop is magnified , i tried playing with different settings in display option but that did not work....some help?
[21:37] <fidelix> Bashing-om: BIOS controlable. I want to prevent Linux from using the Radeon card (I want to assign it to a Xen virtual machine).
[21:38] <Bashing-om> fidelix: Sorry, VM is out of my sphere of knowledge.
[21:38] <TJ-> BrandonC: Can't find a user manual for that mobo; looks to be quite old though so understandable
[21:39] <fidelix> Bashing-om: that's OK. I just need to be able to boot Linux without using the external graphics card. Can you help me with that?
[21:39] <TJ-> fidelix: which driver is loading for it?
[21:39] <fidelix> I have an integrated intel graphics card, and the video works just fine with it.
[21:40] <TJ-> fidel_: For hybrid graphics I doubt you can separate the GPUs, since they use the same framebuffer
[21:40] <fidelix> TJ-: radeon
[21:40] <Bashing-om> fidelix: to see the card -> lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga <- and to see the driver info -> sudo lshw -C display < - . What returns.
[21:40] <TJ-> fidelix: Grrr, too many too-alive nicknames tonight! :)
[21:40] <fidelix> TJ-: no hybrid anything. This is a PC. My motherboard has dedicated video output
[21:41] <TJ-> fidelix: Ahhh, OK, which driver is loading despite the blacklist?
[21:41] <fidelix> TJ-: if I blacklist, the system freezes during boot.
[21:41] <fidelix> So the blacklist probably works.
[21:41] <TJ-> fidelix: So Dom0 is grabbing it so you can't do PCI-passthrough?
[21:42] <TJ-> fidelix: Yes, but *which* driver are you blacklisting?
[21:42] <fidelix> TJ-: radeon
[21:42] <fidelix> Let me reboot. I'll try a few modeset params...
[21:43] <TJ-> fidelix: Have you examined dmesg to see if another driver is trying to take control? Or if the PCI bus scanning is somehow half-activating the GPU?
[21:46] <subcool> how do you extract a .bin file? - i just downloaded 1gb of stuff from goolge plus, and it was sent to me as a .bin
[21:47] <subcool> nvm.. i just went to do it again, and nows its offering .zip
[21:47] <subcool> ugh- i have to dl it agian.
[21:49] <nishanth> anyone know how to fix a magnified display issue
[21:50] <ice9> I'm looking for scrum tool, any suggesstion?
[21:51] <nishanth> anyone know how to fix a magnified display issue
[21:52] <k1l_> nishanth: you meant zoomed in?
[21:54] <nishanth> Kil_ well i turned on my computer and the desktop and all the icons are magnified
[21:55] <k1l_> is the driver working correct?
[21:55] <k1l_> *video driver
[21:55] <nishanth> k1l_ well i turned on my computer and the desktop and all the icons are magnified
[21:55] <nishanth> how do i check
[21:55] <nishanth> ?
[21:55] <nishanth> k1l_ how do I check?
[21:57] <fidelix> TJ-: didn't work
[21:57] <k1l_> nishanth: lshw -c video
[21:57] <akurilin> quick question: the ubuntu user on my trusty vm seems to get NOPASSWD sudo for free, it's not actually in sudoers. Where else could that permission be possibly set?
[21:57] <fidelix> TJ-: http://paste2.org/s1H1fexY
[21:59] <TJ-> fidelix: So the radeon driver is loaded despite the blacklist?
[21:59] <sheap> okay so I narrowed down the cause of my preseed woes, it can be summarized in this thread: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2014-May/275626.html
[21:59] <sheap> anyone else know wtf is going on/how to fix that?
[22:00] <fidelix> TJ-: no. If I blacklist radeon, the system freezes.
[22:01] <nishanth> k1l_ http://pastebin.com/6vNNEiqi
[22:01] <nishanth> k1l_ this is the output i got
[22:02] <brontosaurusrex> how would one configure upstart to end in login shell? (also disabling any logos/splashes)
[22:02] <TJ-> fidelix: Can you pastebin the log from the boot attempt that froze? (it may not contain much of use, but that's the only way we're going to get evidence short of booting with a serial/netconsole)
[22:02] <ikonia> end in login shell ?
[22:02] <nishanth> k1l_ u there?
[22:02] <brontosaurusrex> or to launch a login shell instead of login manager
[22:02] <fidelix> TJ-: I took a picture of it. Is that good enough?
[22:03] <brontosaurusrex> ikonia: yes
[22:03] <ikonia> what are you talking launch a login shell ?
[22:03] <ikonia> upstart is just an init system
[22:03] <TJ-> fidelix: That's always our standby yeah :)
[22:03] <k1l_> !text | brontosaurusrex
[22:03] <brontosaurusrex> ikonia: yes, but it starts a login manager at some point no?
[22:04] <ikonia> brontosaurusrex: it will launch X11 display manager
[22:04] <k1l_> nishanth: what about you see the fglrx command center to setup the display settings?
[22:04] <fidelix> TJ-: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/fAb9NQV1GbC1.jpg
[22:04] <brontosaurusrex> ok, brb
[22:05] <BrandonC> okay im making  my new partitions
[22:05] <BrandonC> max size 38166mib
[22:06] <BrandonC> free space preceding?
[22:06] <BrandonC> new size, free space following?
[22:06] <nishanth> k1l_ where do i find this fglrx command center
[22:08] <k1l_> nishanth: sorry, i am not familiar with the amd ones.
[22:08] <BrandonC> partition ext3 or ext4 for primary partition?
[22:08] <k1l_> !fglrx | nishanth
[22:08] <k1l_> BrandonC: ext4
[22:09] <BrandonC> is 30g enough for ubuntu?
[22:09] <TJ-> fidelix: Try "radeon_modeset=0"
[22:09] <k1l_> BrandonC: for / or for the whole ubuntu?
[22:09] <BrandonC> i dont know the difference
[22:09] <BrandonC> i was told with 1 gig of ram to have swap of 4gigs
[22:09] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Barely and for startes, that is the recommended minimum I have seen. ( 30 Gigs)
[22:10] <fidelix> TJ-: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="radeon.modeset=0 radeon.blacklist=1 radeon.nomodeset=0 rd.driver.blacklist=radeon rd.blacklist=radeon quiet splash"
[22:10] <fidelix> Let me try with _ instead of a .
[22:10] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all.  I upgraded my sytem and ny my graphics card won't start.  I've purged nvidia-* and reinstalled various nvidia driver versions to no avail.  I suspect that it is the kernel.  I tried 3.13.30 kernel and it didn't help.  I'd like to try 28 but I don't know how to get it.  How do I install an older kernel/image?
[22:10] <BrandonC> k1l did you mean / as in drive and whole ubuntu is just howmuch ubuntu takes?
[22:10] <k1l_> BrandonC: no. i meant / as / for the system and /home for the user files
[22:11] <k1l_> !partitions
[22:11] <k1l_> BrandonC: see ^
[22:11] <BrandonC> isent ubntuntu up to v14 now?
[22:12] <fidelix> TJ-: BRB
[22:12] <BrandonC> cool
[22:12] <TJ-> fidelix: :D looks like you should have that covered
[22:12] <BrandonC> whats with it asking mb preceding and folloing ?
[22:13] <k1l_> BrandonC: 14.04. but its still the same recommendations
[22:13] <k1l_> the bot gave a link with a beginners explanaition. what about you try to read that for a start
[22:14] <fidelix> TJ-: it worked. Thanks man!
[22:14] <TJ-> fidelix: I think your issue was you had "radeon.nomodeset" which doesn't exist as a parameter for radeon module: If you don't know already, you can check available parameters for dynamically loadable modules with "modinfo <modulename>" e.g. "modinfo radeon"
[22:15] <fidelix> TJ-: that's brilliant. Thanks man
[22:15] <TJ-> fidelix: Good luck with Xen :)
[22:18] <JokesOnYou77> How do I install an older kernel/image?
[22:18] <Olimpiata> sd
[22:19] <dominik> f
[22:21] <Ool> JokesOnYou77: do you remove the old one after upgrading ? if not,  you may choose other kernel in grub menu
[22:21] <BrandonC> so i can only have 4 primary partitions, but i can make 1 of those 4 an exxtended partition allowing me to make many more logical partitions?
[22:22] <BrandonC> andi can only have 1 extended partition per drive.. so 1-3 primary partition, 4 is extended and that extended can have many logical partitions?
[22:23] <zykotick9> BrandonC: sidenote, the 4 primary only applies to msdos partitions, gpt you can have as many primary as you want
[22:23] <BrandonC> gpt?
[22:24] <daftykins> GPT = new, UEFI bootable partition table
[22:24] <BrandonC> ah kk
[22:24] <Ool> BrandonC: you can make one primary and an extended with how many logical partitions you want
[22:24] <daftykins> BrandonC: how many do you really need :P
[22:24] <BrandonC> just making sure i understand
[22:24] <zykotick9> daftykins: actually gpt has nothing to do with uefi (i've used gpt but don't have any uefi systems)  BrandonC
[22:25] <Ool> gpt is for larger partitions no ?
[22:25] <daftykins> zykotick9: it does in the sense that single-disks of ~2.7TB+ have to be GPT when a single partition is used, with Windows... when it comes to Linux though i don't know if there are partition limits
[22:25] <zykotick9> Ool: well, it does support 3TB+ so, sorta ;)
[22:31] <BrandonC> so i read thru that bot link and dont see where says how much mib to put before or after partition, i see something aoubt if you have large disk you need to put in the first 1024 cylinders or something
[22:32] <BrandonC> again i still dont understand why ubuntu install disk wont do this
[22:32] <BrandonC> and is deleting all partitions a way of formating?
[22:36] <jamesbrown> how can i fix this?
[22:36] <jamesbrown> http://pastebin.com/0y0vhGAN
[22:38] <daftykins> jamesbrown: where's the index from?
[22:42] <zerick> Anybody knows what tool/client Ubuntu members use in order yo stay connected always?
[22:42] <jamesbrown> daftykins in project/test
[22:42] <beanee> hey how do i remove java 8 ubnutu
[22:42] <daftykins> jamesbrown: i don't know what you mean
[22:42] <daftykins> beanee: from webupd8?
[22:43] <beanee> just the whole java thing actually
[22:43] <daftykins> beanee: well did you install Oracle's java or is this on a clean install?
[22:43] <beanee> Oracle's
[22:44] <beanee> dafykins: Oracle's
[22:45] <daftykins> beanee: so installed via the webupd8 repo then
[22:45] <beanee> i donno what weupd8 is
[22:45] <daftykins> beanee: did you follow a guide online of how to get it installed to begin with?
[22:45] <beanee> yes
[22:45] <beanee> i did
[22:46] <daftykins> beanee: that's third party then, from the webupd8 team, so you'd have to consult their site for how to remove - pretty sure it's along the lines of a package called oracle-java8-installer - confirm with "dpkg -l | grep oracle"
[22:46] <beanee> rogger that
[22:47] <beanee> ran the command, nothing showed up
[22:47] <daftykins> that's odd
[22:47] <beanee> let me google some more and come back to you daftykins
[22:50] <jamesbrown> daftykins i am telling u which folder the index.php file is
[22:50] <daftykins> jamesbrown: i'm asking where it's from
[22:50] <Aki-Thinkpad> Where is the qtcreator-src && qtcreator-build found in ubuntu?
[22:51] <Aki-Thinkpad> or do I have to build it from src?
[22:51] <jamesbrown> daftykins that dont make sense
[22:51] <daftykins> Aki-Thinkpad: apt-cache search <thing to search for>
[22:51] <Aki-Thinkpad> daftykins, i'll try that
[22:52] <daftykins> Aki-Thinkpad: you'll need an up to date package list to start with, so "apt-get update" naturally
[22:52] <Aki-Thinkpad> daftykins, yah nothign is returning
[22:52] <daftykins> can't say i've ever heard of them to know further i'm afraid
[22:53] <Aki-Thinkpad> :/
[22:53] <daftykins> Aki-Thinkpad: if they're the exact binary names, try "which <name>"
[22:54] <Aki-Thinkpad> daftykins,
[22:54] <Aki-Thinkpad> i'll try
[22:54] <Aki-Thinkpad> thanks
[22:54] <beanee> java -version
[22:54] <beanee> java version "1.8.0_11"
[22:54] <beanee> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_11-b12)
[22:54] <beanee> Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 25.11-b03, mixed mode)
[22:55] <beanee> daftykins ^^^
[22:55] <entreri> hello, how to install the new kde5 ?
[22:55] <daftykins> beanee: i suppose the other one to try is "dpkg -l | grep java"
[22:55] <TJ-> Aki-Thinkpad: "apt-get source qtcreator"
[22:55] <Spec> Aki-Thinkpad: are you looking for the source code of qtcreator?
[22:56] <Spec> what TJ- said
[22:56] <Aki-Thinkpad> yah
[22:56] <beanee> ii  ca-certificates-java                                  20130815ubuntu1                                     all          Common CA certificates (JKS keystore)
[22:56] <beanee> ii  gir1.2-javascriptcoregtk-3.0                          2.4.3-1ubuntu2                                      i386         JavaScript engine library from WebKitGTK+ - GObject introspection data
[22:56] <beanee> ii  java-common                                           0.51                                                all          Base of all Java packages
[22:56] <beanee> ii  libatk-wrapper-java                                   0.30.4-4                                            all          ATK implementation for Java using JNI
[22:56] <jamesbrown> daftykins :( help
[22:56]  * daftykins waves to Spec
[22:56] <Spec> :D
[22:56] <beanee> ii  libatk-wrapper-java-jni:i386                          0.30.4-4                                            i386         ATK implementation for Java using JNI (JNI bindings)
[22:56] <beanee> ii  libjavascriptcoregtk-3.0-0:i386                       2.4.3-1ubuntu2                                      i386         JavaScript engine library from WebKitGTK+
[22:56] <Aki-Thinkpad> http://doc.qt.digia.com/qtcreator-extending/first-plugin.html
[22:56] <Spec> beanee: please use pastebin :(
[22:56] <beanee> ii  tzdata-java                                           2014e-0ubuntu0.14.04                                all          time zone and daylight-saving time data for use by java runtimes
[22:56] <beanee> oh sorry
[22:56] <Aki-Thinkpad> !pastebin
[22:56] <beanee> we are use to spam this shit on efnet
[22:57] <Aki-Thinkpad> !language
[22:57] <daftykins> careful on the language too please
[22:57] <beanee> oh
[22:57] <Aki-Thinkpad> ;)
[22:57] <beanee> ofc
[22:57] <beanee> :)
[22:57] <daftykins> jamesbrown: i was asking what the web application was, what is the index.php from?
[22:57] <Aki-Thinkpad> if you need to be naughty, you can use faces like this >:)
[22:57] <jamesbrown> daftykins it my website home page
[22:57] <TJ-> jamesbrown: You've probably not set the permissions of the PHP folder/files to something the web-server can read
[22:58] <entreri> hello, how to install the new kde5 ?
[22:58] <beanee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7838962/
[22:58] <Spec> Aki-Thinkpad: is fine to keep them undefined, "If these are not defined, it uses the defaults you set in the project wizard."
[22:58] <Spec> Aki-Thinkpad: it's referring to the source code of qtcreator and the build directory
[22:58] <Aki-Thinkpad> Spec, it doesnt let me continue though,
[22:58] <Aki-Thinkpad> that is the problem
[22:58] <Spec> your project needs the source code of qtcreator (directory of qtcreator-src)
[22:59] <Aki-Thinkpad> hmmmm
[22:59] <Spec> Aki-Thinkpad: step 3. there's a picture, 'Plugin Information'
[22:59] <Aki-Thinkpad> usr/share/qtcreator then fits the bill?
[22:59] <Spec> Aki-Thinkpad: 'Qt creator sources: /usr/example/qtcreator-src'
[22:59] <daftykins> entreri: ubuntu supports the packages it comes with and no more, if you want to install newer unavailable software then it'll be on your head i'm afraid
[22:59] <Aki-Thinkpad> yes I know; that is what has me confused
[23:00] <Spec> Aki-Thinkpad: no, that needs to be the directory of the sources for qtcreator (apt-get source qtcreator; you'll have a directory ./qtcreator-2.4.1/
[23:00] <Aki-Thinkpad> sec
[23:00] <Spec> Aki-Thinkpad: and it needs to point to that directory. for the build directory, just make "/home/$USER/qtcreator-build" and point to it
[23:00] <Aki-Thinkpad> ah
[23:02] <Spec> Aki-Thinkpad: i'm not sure if it expects a built qtcreator there or not, though.
[23:02] <Aki-Thinkpad> stupid mac
[23:02] <Aki-Thinkpad> >:]
[23:02] <daftykins> ...mac?
[23:03] <Spec> daftykins: get a mac, bro
[23:03] <awesomess3> I can't believe 10.04 LTS (server) is still supported, that is soooo old
[23:03] <awesomess3> it's like Microsoft still supporting XP
[23:04] <daftykins> only until April 2015 i believe
[23:04] <daftykins> no it's nothing like that, also you're off topic
[23:04] <Spec> lots of time for eyes to go over code and fix bugs :)
[23:04] <zerick> Anybody knows what tool/client Ubuntu members use in order yo stay connected always
[23:04] <Spec> zerick: connected to irc?
[23:04] <daftykins> Spec: bit like with that SSL library *whistle*
[23:04] <awesomess3> zerick, firefox?
[23:04] <zerick> Spec, yes
[23:04] <Spec> zerick: screen + irssi
[23:04] <awesomess3> zerick, Xubuntu comes with xchat
[23:05] <Spec> Aki-Thinkpad: i was gonna test this out for ya, but i'm pulling 64 kB/s from ubuntu mirror :(
[23:05] <Aki-Thinkpad> Spec, ha
[23:05] <Aki-Thinkpad> yah its pretty big
[23:05] <Aki-Thinkpad> great editor though
[23:05] <zerick> Spec, I see they are logged in @ubuntu/member, is that an specific server ?
[23:06] <zerick> For members only (?)
[23:06] <daftykins> zerick: it's a hostmask provided by freenode. for more info ask in #freenode
[23:06] <Spec> zerick: nickserv authenticates you and automagic hostmask gets set. freenode staff can help you at #freenode i think
[23:06] <Spec> daftykins: pfft
[23:06] <Aki-Thinkpad> Spec, the thing I am confused about though is whether I have to build qtcreator from source, and use it....
[23:06] <daftykins> Spec: sorry sir
[23:06] <zerick> Spec, thank you
[23:06] <Spec> Aki-Thinkpad: the documentation is reading like this process supports having a bunch of different versions of qt and build directories
[23:06] <Aki-Thinkpad> oh I guess I do... because this is for testing a plugin
[23:07] <Aki-Thinkpad> Spec, hmmm
[23:07] <Spec> Aki-Thinkpad: which makes me think the qt build directory needs to be the target dir when you actually build the sauce
[23:07] <boze> I can't seem to get my vpn to work on trusty
[23:08] <Spec> Aki-Thinkpad: do you know how to do this?
[23:08] <jamesbrown> guys i am geting this error http://pastebin.com/0y0vhGAN
[23:09] <Aki-Thinkpad> Spec, how to program in qt? Yes
[23:09] <jamesbrown> this is what my vhost looks like http://pastebin.com/puzaaU81
[23:09] <Aki-Thinkpad> Spec, this is my first plugin though so
[23:10] <Spec> jamesbrown: not an ubuntu question, try #php
[23:10] <daftykins> boze: that's really not much to go on. i love a guessing game as much as the next guy, but help us out ;)
[23:10] <TJ-> jamesbrown: Shouldn't that be "AddHandler php5-script .php"  ?
[23:10] <Spec> i'm assuming he wants to render htm files with php, which is fine.
[23:11] <Guest94778> does anyone know how to get wifi working on xubunyu?
[23:11] <Guest94778> xubuntu*
[23:11] <daftykins> Guest94778: how far have you got?
[23:11] <daftykins> it worked out of the box for me. presumable your hardware isn't supported
[23:11] <jamesbrown> TJit nothing to do with it
[23:11] <daftykins> *presumably
[23:12] <Guest94778> well in the past wifi used to work but now im stuck on ethernet
[23:12] <daftykins> Guest94778: what's different between the past and now?
[23:13] <kostkon> Guest94778, first you need to find out what's your wifi chipset, e.g.   lspci | grep -i network
[23:13] <TJ-> jamesbrown: did you check web-server process has permissions to the directory and files? Have you added any .htaccess php_* directives?
[23:13] <Guest94778> ok
[23:14] <kostkon> Guest94778, then come back here saying e.g. i am not able to use my wifi, my wifi details are listed here in this paste, etc.
[23:15] <Guest94778> ok I believe I found the issue
[23:15] <jamesbrown> TJ dont need to add .htaccess i have alother php files and none of them using htacess
[23:15] <Guest94778> there we go, one of my drivers was faulty
[23:15] <Guest94778> ill come back once its fixed
[23:15] <TJ-> jamesbrown: I'm asking you if you are using directives that can cause the issue you are seeing... it is a process of elimination.
[23:16] <Spec> jamesbrown: the vhost works fine, fwiw. just tested.
[23:16] <TJ-> jamesbrown: >> did you check web-server process has permissions to the directory and files?
[23:16] <jamesbrown> TJ i think thats riht
[23:17] <Spec> jamesbrown: what's index.php look like
[23:17] <jamesbrown> how do i give permission to the user which is me James
[23:17] <jamesbrown> Spec it has <?php echo "hello"; ext; ?>
[23:17] <jamesbrown> thats what it has
[23:17] <jamesbrown> exit
[23:18] <TJ-> james0r: You don't - you ensure the web-server user has at least traverse and read permissions to the directories and files, respectively
[23:24] <jamesbrown> it might be the permission
[23:25] <TJ-> jamesbrown: It often is when the files are under /var/www/ and users add their own files
[23:26] <jamesbrown> TJ what permission can i do it?
[23:27] <Spec> jamesbrown: check the existing permissions with ls -l /path/to/index.php
[23:27] <jamesbrown> i did sudo chown -R  baako project/
[23:27] <daftykins> >_<
[23:28] <Spec> jamesbrown: oh. sudo chown -R baako.www-data project/
[23:28] <Spec> jamesbrown: and maybe find project/ -exec chmod g+rx "{}" +
[23:29] <balrog-k1n> hi, has support for "raring" been dropped recently? apt-get is getting a lot of 404 errors
[23:29] <daftykins> balrog-k1n: quite a while ago now
[23:29] <daftykins> !13.04
[23:30] <jamesbrown> spec wha?
[23:30] <balrog-k1n> daftykins: thanks.. must have been some repositories were still working
[23:31] <Spec> jamesbrown: the command, it starts with "find". if you run it, it will give the group permission to read/execute all files/folders in "project/"
[23:31] <Spec> jamesbrown: the group, which you set with the first command starting with sudo, should be www-data (the webserver user)
[23:31] <TJ-> jamesbrown: If you made the project directory owned by 'baako', then in all likelyhood the web-server process (which usually runs as the user "www-data") will not have access to the files. The group ownership for the directories and files need to at least be "www-data", therefore "sudo chown -R :www-data /var/www/" may well correct the problem.
[23:31] <daftykins> balrog-k1n: you definitely want to get over to 12.04 or 14.04 ideally
[23:38] <jamesbrown> TJ some files work some dont
[23:38] <TJ-> jamesbrown: Are there any mod_rewrite rules in place affecting it?
[23:40] <ryan__> Hello '-'
[23:40] <ryan__> hahaha
[23:40] <jamesbrown> TJ mope
[23:40] <jamesbrown> nope
[23:40] <kerozene> come and join ##etc for linux talk now
[23:40] <TJ-> jamesbrown: Time to enable verbose logging in apache / PHP then
[23:41] <jamesbrown> i am running this hing locally
[23:41] <jamesbrown> thing
[23:43] <TJ-> jamesbrown: best to ask in #httpd
[23:43] <jamesbrown> i am log into a user called Baak
[23:43] <jamesbrown> Baako
[23:43] <jamesbrown> all my other php prohjects
[23:44] <jamesbrown> are in a goup called Baako
[23:44] <jamesbrown> not www-data
[23:44] <jamesbrown> but Baako
[23:45] <wheatthin> www-data is needed for apache2 privs
[23:45] <wheatthin> I'm just saying.
[23:45] <jamesbrown> its nothing to do with httpd
[23:45] <jamesbrown> its to do with me getting the permissions right
[23:46] <jamesbrown> i wanna assign all files and folder to group Baako
[23:46] <jamesbrown> how will i do that please?
[23:46] <daftykins> "chown -R user:group <files>" or just user: if the user is the same as the group
[23:46] <daftykins> but blanket bombing your files randomly shows a misunderstanding of what's going on
[23:47] <jamesbrown> daftykins wil that make all files and folders and sub folders in the test folder
[23:47] <jamesbrown> assign to Baako group?
[23:47] <TJ-> jamesbrown: As I've told you twice, the files the apache web-server is to read *must* be owned by the user "www-data", either as user-owner, or group-owner, and the directories must be traversable by "www-data" too
[23:48] <Lobster`> Having fun attempting to install ubuntu to my macbook pro
[23:48] <jamesbrown> TJ no because none of my folders are in www-data group
[23:48] <Lobster`> had to rebuild corrupted partition tables once already lol
[23:48] <Lobster`> what i get for not reading a guide first
[23:48] <jamesbrown> i have look at all other php project folder i have which are working well
[23:49] <jamesbrown> this project is not working because i just move it from windows to ubuntu
[23:49] <jamesbrown> so the permission need reset abit
[23:49] <TJ-> jamesbrown: So, *increase* logging level in apache/PHP to get more information in the log files
[23:49] <jonairo> I have problem when i burned a cd audio in brasero and K3B in ubuntu 14.04,64 bit, the cd burned in normal cd, the tracks audio have distortions how can i resolve it
[23:50] <jamesbrown> daftykins u r on the right track
[23:51] <jamesbrown> TJ as i said the index.php is show but some of the files and folders are not loading because of permission issue
[23:51] <dwayne> I'm trying to configure sendmail to use my ISP comcast and getting authentication required bounces.  How can I configure AuthInfo w/ Ubuntu 12.04 ?  Any help very much appreciated
[23:51] <jonairo> I did not have the problems in ubuntu 13.10.
[23:51] <TJ-> jamesbrown: Ask in #httpd, that's where the Apache experts are
[23:52] <kostkon> jonairo, what kind of distortions?
[23:53] <jamesbrown> daftykins some of the file permission and file permission are set correctly with sudo chown -R baaka:baaka project/
[23:54] <jamesbrown> but some are set to read-onl and none
[23:54] <jonairo> the sound is bad, the cds are burned but with problem with the audio
[23:54] <daftykins> jamesbrown: yes, that's a different command.
[23:55] <daftykins> jamesbrown: but only the user the web server is running as needs the permissions
[23:55] <jamesbrown> yes
[23:55] <jamesbrown> i know which is okay
[23:55] <jamesbrown> baaka is right
[23:57] <jamesbrown> this is confusing me now