| shadeslayer | yofel: oh? :S | 00:17 |
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| ovidiu-florin | happy birthday apachelogger :D | 05:12 |
| valorie | ooooo, birthday congratulations and best wishes, my dear apachelogger | 05:19 |
| ovidiu-florin | I'd like to create a Kubuntu „company” or project of some sort on LinkedIn. Can we achieve that? | 05:32 |
| valorie | sure, I think just do it, and then from linkedin invite people to join | 05:37 |
| * valorie will | 05:37 | |
| valorie | there are groups - nightrose has one for GSoC students -- but not much traffic | 05:38 |
| valorie | there is a KDE "company" or something | 05:38 |
| ovidiu-florin | valorie: what should be the official email? | 05:40 |
| ovidiu-florin | do we have one? | 05:40 |
| ovidiu-florin | I mean, not the mail list | 05:41 |
| valorie | oh god no, linkedin spams like crazy | 05:41 |
| ovidiu-florin | something that ends in @kubuntu.org | 05:41 |
| ovidiu-florin | then I'll put mine for now | 05:41 |
| valorie | sounds good | 05:42 |
| valorie | I hate to say this, because linkedin seemed decent for a long time, but it seems that they have turned to the dark side lately | 05:43 |
| ovidiu-florin | my ovidiub13 at kubuntu dor org email address is not available yet. Who do I have to ping for that? | 05:43 |
| valorie | so much spam | 05:43 |
| ovidiu-florin | valorie: you just have to deactivate the email notifications | 05:43 |
| valorie | no, they send spam to lists *all the time* | 05:44 |
| valorie | on almost all the lists I administer - on Rootsweb (genealogy), linuxchix, KDE, and kubuntu | 05:44 |
| valorie | the KDE sysadmins threaten them very frequently | 05:45 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Houston I believe we have a problem.. | 06:45 |
| Sick_Rimmit | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20140722.2/trusty-desktop-i386.iso | 06:45 |
| Sick_Rimmit | shows "404 Not Found" | 06:45 |
| valorie | Sick_Rimmit: how about http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20140723/utopic-desktop-i386.iso | 07:54 |
| valorie | oh, trusty | 07:54 |
| valorie | why would there be a daily for trusty? | 07:54 |
| Noskcaj | valorie, microreleases | 07:55 |
| valorie | in /daily-live/ I see only utopic | 07:57 |
| yofel | Sick_Rimmit, valorie: the URL in the tracker is wrong | 07:58 |
| yofel | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/trusty/daily-live/current/ | 07:58 |
| valorie | http://se.cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/14.04/release/kubuntu-14.04-desktop-i386.iso | 07:58 |
| valorie | from: http://se.cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/14.04/release/ | 07:58 |
| valorie | oh, that's releases, sorry for the noise | 07:59 |
| apachelogger | page down page down page down page down page down | 08:01 |
| yofel | EOF | 08:03 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: qtdeclarative5-kf5declarative is still named like that... I do not see it transiting to qml-module-whatever | 08:03 |
| apachelogger | solid neither FWIW | 08:03 |
| apachelogger | I hate bzr so very very very very much | 08:21 |
| === toscalix_ is now known as toscalix | ||
| Riddell | apachelogger: well better believe it cos the transition is in bzr | 08:31 |
| Riddell | whatever is wrong with bzr? as long as you're patient it's your best friend | 08:31 |
| === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - The Distro for Birthday Octopii, 100% jellyfish free | https://trello.com/kubuntu | KF5 5.0.0! notes http://goo.gl/53m7zt : status http://goo.gl/MxvdGp | Congrats to our newest kubuntu-member: ovidiu-florin | ||
| Riddell | apachelogger: ¡feliz cumpleaños! | 08:32 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: it's not in ppa, so I can't change the names | 08:36 |
| ovidiu-florin | Riddell: when can I expect to use my @kubuntu.org email address? | 08:37 |
| apachelogger | "The script which creates the email aliases runs every 2 days. So please wait at least 48 hours before checking if the email is working (or leave it a couple more days to be sure). " | 08:38 |
| apachelogger | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEmail | 08:38 |
| Riddell | I wonder what to do about oversized 14.04.1 ISOs | 08:42 |
| Riddell | !testers | 14.04.1 testing! | 08:42 |
| ubottu | 14.04.1 testing!: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley, alket for information | 08:42 |
| apachelogger | drop some languages? | 08:43 |
| apachelogger | oh wait, we can't there aren't any left :P | 08:43 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 08:43 |
| apachelogger | uploading workspace to staging | 08:43 |
| apachelogger | ah bugger, I forgot to add gdb there | 08:44 |
| apachelogger | some reviewers you guys are :P | 08:44 |
| shadeslayer | what what | 08:44 |
| apachelogger | pagedown pagedown pagedown pagedown pagedown | 08:44 |
| valorie | When I installed project neon to this laptop today, I noticed an enormous number of packages I've never had, such as claws-mail, emacs, etc. | 08:49 |
| valorie | is this intended? | 08:49 |
| valorie | didn't happen a few days ago when I installed it on the retiring laptop | 08:50 |
| apachelogger | emacs sounds wrong | 08:50 |
| valorie | but in regular session there is no emacs installed.... | 08:50 |
| valorie | It did to me, for sure | 08:51 |
| * valorie doesn't need a third OS on this lappy | 08:51 | |
| valorie | happy birthday, apachelogger | 08:51 |
| valorie | claws-mail seemed completely off the wall as well | 08:51 |
| apachelogger | is it my birthday? | 08:52 |
| apachelogger | thank you | 08:52 |
| apachelogger | valorie: what did you install exactly | 08:53 |
| valorie | afaik, just project neon | 08:53 |
| valorie | `sudo apt install project-neon5-session project-neon5-utils project-neon5-konsole` | 08:54 |
| valorie | that is a paste from up-arrow in yakuake | 08:55 |
| apachelogger | maybe utils pulls something in | 09:00 |
| apachelogger | there's a bunch of dev plunder in utils | 09:00 |
| apachelogger | not quite sure why installing it is suggested | 09:00 |
| valorie | I just thought I'd mention it, since it didn't happen a few days ago | 09:00 |
| apachelogger | valorie: where is that line from? | 09:00 |
| valorie | that was the line I used to install, and I copied it from Riddell's post | 09:01 |
| valorie | https://blogs.kde.org/2014/07/15/plasma-5-here-all-ready-eat-your-babies | 09:01 |
| valorie | didn't eat my babies though | 09:01 |
| valorie | just gave me emacs | 09:01 |
| Riddell | :) | 09:02 |
| valorie | it's sorta bare-bones still | 09:03 |
| valorie | I suppose it will grow pretty quickly | 09:03 |
| valorie | only problem I've had is that I can't get the wallpaper to show | 09:03 |
| apachelogger | emacs is like a decease, if you don't watch out you can easily catch it from other people | 09:04 |
| valorie | I think I'm pretty safe on that score | 09:05 |
| valorie | not my style at all | 09:05 |
| Riddell | apachelogger-x apachelogger-c | 09:05 |
| apachelogger | whatever that may mean | 09:05 |
| * apachelogger needs to fetch his vimrc from his old $HOME | 09:06 | |
| apachelogger | if I found my old home that is :'< | 09:06 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: qtcurve already moved to next? | 09:06 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: yes | 09:06 |
| shadeslayer | I tested it | 09:06 |
| shadeslayer | eet works | 09:06 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: breeze will want adjustment | 09:06 |
| shadeslayer | for? | 09:06 |
| apachelogger | recommends all curves | 09:06 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 09:07 |
| apachelogger | it's part of breeze theme convergence | 09:07 |
| shadeslayer | I already made plasma5-desktop recommend it | 09:07 |
| shadeslayer | or was it depend | 09:07 |
| shadeslayer | I forget | 09:07 |
| shadeslayer | too much rage yesterday | 09:07 |
| apachelogger | breeze still needs to recommend it :P | 09:07 |
| shadeslayer | yeah ofcourse | 09:07 |
| shadeslayer | will fixeroo after I write orchrestration | 09:07 |
| * apachelogger does the daily dist upgrade to proceed with testing -.- | 09:07 | |
| valorie | hmmm, I should go to bed | 09:12 |
| valorie | ttyl.... | 09:12 |
| shadeslayer | night valorie | 09:13 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: rejected kdeclarative cos copyright didn't list MIT, I've updated bzr, please check and re-upload | 09:14 |
| shadeslayer | :( | 09:16 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: uploaded | 09:19 |
| apachelogger | The following packages will be REMOVED: | 09:20 |
| apachelogger | kde-style-qtcurve | 09:20 |
| apachelogger | I still don't get why the package had to be renamed | 09:20 |
| shadeslayer | well, if the Qt5 package has a 5 at the end, why make it inconsistent with the Qt4 version | 09:21 |
| apachelogger | why would one? | 09:23 |
| apachelogger | it's not like the package name isn't an utter lie anyway | 09:23 |
| apachelogger | there is no kde-style-qtcurve5 | 09:24 |
| yofel | there is | 09:24 |
| apachelogger | it's a qt5-style-qtcruve if anything | 09:24 |
| apachelogger | Depends: frameworkintegration, libc6 (>= 2.14), libqt5core5a (>= 5.3.0), libqt5dbus5 (>= 5.0.2), libqt5gui5 (>= 5.3.0) | libqt5gui5-gles (>= 5.3.0), libqt5svg5 (>= 5.0.2), libqt5widgets5 (>= 5.0.2), libqt5x11extras5 (>= 5.1.0), libqtcurve-utils1, libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1), qtbase-abi-5-3-0 | 09:24 |
| apachelogger | why does it dep on frameworkintegration Oo | 09:24 |
| Riddell | it only works with frameworkintegration | 09:26 |
| Riddell | or at least when you select it through system settings it breaks unless you have frameworkintegration | 09:26 |
| shadeslayer | ^^ | 09:26 |
| apachelogger | that makes no sense whatsoever | 09:26 |
| apachelogger | what frameworksintegration does is make qt load the style configured in the style kcm | 09:27 |
| apachelogger | that has nothing to do with the theme depending on frameworkintegration | 09:27 |
| shadeslayer | hm, sounds about right, but then can you configure QtCurve from other places? | 09:29 |
| shadeslayer | so that applications use the qtcurve style | 09:30 |
| Riddell | probably qt-config can do it | 09:30 |
| Riddell | but that's hardly the most likely option | 09:30 |
| Riddell | I suppose a recommends could be justified but it's nasty to break for users and I can't imaging why you wouldn't want frameworkintegration around | 09:31 |
| apachelogger | it should have no relationship with frameworkintegration! | 09:31 |
| shadeslayer | this is true ^^ | 09:32 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: any other QPA | 09:32 |
| apachelogger | and probably .config/Trolltech.conf | 09:32 |
| shadeslayer | because there could be any number of other ui's that could configure this | 09:32 |
| apachelogger | unless they changed the config path, there is a native config somewhere anyway | 09:32 |
| shadeslayer | but I am not really aware of them | 09:32 |
| Riddell | maybe systemsettings needs to depend on frameworkintegration as it's that kcm which needs it | 09:38 |
| shadeslayer | that seems more sensible to me | 09:39 |
| apachelogger | nonononononononono | 09:39 |
| shadeslayer | why not? | 09:39 |
| apachelogger | the kcm doesn't need it | 09:39 |
| apachelogger | for the kcm's setting to take effect you need it | 09:39 |
| apachelogger | the setting is there and written to file and all , except it does not do anything unless frameworkintegration is there | 09:40 |
| apachelogger | the situation would be the same if there was another platform plugin that gets loaded instead of the frameworks one | 09:41 |
| apachelogger | so that is really something to carry and discuss upstream | 09:41 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: that's very broken behavious, if it writes the setting but the setting doesn't take place | 09:42 |
| apachelogger | there is no active tie from systemsettings to frameworkintegration, so what happens if a user installs dolphin in gnome, then installs systemsettings and wants to set the style, and what if there is another platform plugin getting loaded (assuming that can happen) | 09:43 |
| Riddell | upstream just says make plasma-workspace depend on it | 09:43 |
| apachelogger | right, that's what we go with then | 09:43 |
| apachelogger | the problem ultimately (if anywhere) would be a bug in qt, not providing a way to set the style without a platform plugin | 09:44 |
| shadeslayer | apacheloggeris e.u.c still broken for you | 09:45 |
| apachelogger | was last I checked | 09:45 |
| apachelogger | 2 weeks ago or so | 09:45 |
| shadeslayer | yeah, ev still hasn't replied to me | 09:45 |
| apachelogger | send mail and cc ubuntu-devel? | 09:45 |
| apachelogger | surely someone can find out what's wrong | 09:45 |
| shadeslayer | yeah I guess | 09:45 |
| ochosi | hey folks! | 09:46 |
| Riddell | hi ochosi | 09:46 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I'll argue that a recommends from systemsettings is warranted | 09:46 |
| apachelogger | but the thing is | 09:46 |
| apachelogger | this applies to all kde applications | 09:46 |
| ochosi | quick question, you've been using trello for a while, are you still using launchpad's blueprint system and status.ubuntu.com at all? if so, what for? if not, any things your missing from that? | 09:46 |
| Riddell | ochosi: nah dropped that along with wiki Specs | 09:47 |
| apachelogger | and since there is no uniform way to hook into those, I think upstream's suggestion is really the best there is right now | 09:47 |
| ochosi | Riddell: so only trello it is? | 09:47 |
| Riddell | ochosi: yep, although upstream KDE now uses kanboard as a free alternative | 09:49 |
| Riddell | https://todo.kde.org/?controller=board&action=readonly&token=15ea7072a1f2be97963e83e1193f5fe8f1cf431272101b119d1d2237003a | 09:49 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: https://code.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/daisy/add-kubuntu-bugs/+merge/227879 | 09:53 |
| apachelogger | ah, lol | 09:53 |
| apachelogger | cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/90xapian | 09:59 |
| apachelogger | APT::Update::Post-Invoke-Success { "if [ -x /usr/sbin/update-apt-xapian-index ]; then update-apt-xapian-index -u; fi" } | 10:00 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: kxmlgui rejected for incomplete copyright, bzr updated, please check and reupload | 10:00 |
| apachelogger | Riddell, shadeslayer: ^ please create that file and watch your apt-get updates | 10:00 |
| apachelogger | need some preliminary data for https://trello.com/c/W1ZdDudj | 10:00 |
| apachelogger | well, actually, let me send a mail | 10:00 |
| * Riddell makes it sew | 10:02 | |
| Riddell | apachelogger: qml-module-org-kde-solid qml-module-org-kde-draganddrop etc in archive | 10:08 |
| Riddell | trusty-desktop-amd64.iso 5 MB oversized | 10:13 |
| apachelogger | neat | 10:13 |
| apachelogger | amd64 is too fat | 10:13 |
| * Riddell considers removing libreoffice | 10:13 | |
| apachelogger | Riddell: you could make the seed reject aptdaemon | 10:14 |
| apachelogger | it's not useful but pulled in by firefoxy | 10:15 |
| apachelogger | blacklist seed is what you want to edit I think | 10:15 |
| Riddell | I wonder what qpdf is and why we have it on our CDs | 10:17 |
| Riddell | still only gives us 1MB at most | 10:18 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: you can blacklist gdb and instead explicitly seed gdb-minimal | 10:18 |
| apachelogger | that will definitely be enough | 10:19 |
| apachelogger | or | 10:19 |
| apachelogger | blacklist libc-dbg/libc6-dbg | 10:19 |
| apachelogger | it's a recommends of gdb that we do not really need because drkonqi shoudl be able to resolve the dep and apport/whoopsie doesn't do client tracing anyway | 10:20 |
| Riddell | yowsers | 10:20 |
| apachelogger | i.e. libc-dbg disappearing is also the primary effect of gdb-minimal as far as space is concerned ;) | 10:20 |
| Riddell | gdb -> apport-kde (Recommends) | 10:25 |
| Riddell | libc6-dbg | glibc | gdb (Recommends) | 10:25 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: can you run : grep-available -F Maintainer -i kubuntu -s Source | 10:26 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: and tell me if you get anything | 10:26 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: lots of kde and qt bits | 10:27 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: any kf5 bits | 10:27 |
| shadeslayer | ? | 10:27 |
| Riddell | yep http://paste.kde.org/poyfheit1 | 10:27 |
| shadeslayer | awesome | 10:27 |
| Riddell | ScottK: ping? | 10:30 |
| Riddell | bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/1347565 | 10:32 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1347565 in apport (Ubuntu Utopic) "apport recommends gdb" [Undecided,New] | 10:32 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: what do we do with vlc btw? debian bug is not moving much :'< | 10:35 |
| * apachelogger is a bit scared of uploading | 10:35 | |
| shadeslayer | hm | 10:36 |
| Riddell | what needs done with vlc? | 10:36 |
| apachelogger | I did however land the same change in neon pvlc and haven't heared complaints so far | 10:36 |
| * shadeslayer is a bit busy trying to figure out why grep-available isn't working | 10:36 | |
| apachelogger | Riddell: it not crashing kf5 apps would be good | 10:36 |
| Riddell | yes it would | 10:36 |
| apachelogger | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=755154 | 10:36 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 755154 in vlc "vlc cache gen should happen at runtime, not buildtime" [Normal,Open] | 10:36 |
| shadeslayer | sparkleshare - distributed collaboration and sharing tool | 10:38 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 10:38 |
| apachelogger | sounds dirty | 10:39 |
| apachelogger | I also do wonder how to package our qt5 ports so that new archive uploads don't override them :S | 10:40 |
| Riddell | bigger version number? | 10:41 |
| Riddell | what's the issue? | 10:41 |
| apachelogger | but how big too not make them too big :P | 10:41 |
| shadeslayer | btw thoughts on where to setup ISO orchrestration | 10:59 |
| shadeslayer | for Kubuntu 5 | 10:59 |
| shadeslayer | till Colin sets up stuff on cdimages | 10:59 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: ScottK apachelogger Riddell | 11:00 |
| Riddell | hmm cantor needs lua, that package just gets weirder | 11:00 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: what does that mean? | 11:03 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: we need to setup ISO scripts somewhere to build kubuntu5 iso's till Colin sets up infra on cdimages | 11:03 |
| shadeslayer | where do you propose setting up the scripts? | 11:04 |
| Riddell | hmm | 11:05 |
| Riddell | can qa.kubuntu.co.uk handle it? I suspect not | 11:06 |
| Riddell | you don't want it on blue systems server? | 11:06 |
| shadeslayer | I am unsure, it might be able to | 11:06 |
| Riddell | I'd rather fire up an ec2 server to do it I think | 11:06 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: idk, apachelogger didn't seem to keen on it | 11:06 |
| shadeslayer | *too | 11:06 |
| Riddell | silly apachelogger, always making trouble | 11:07 |
| * apachelogger just wrote a reply on kubuntuforums, took so long his session timed out Oo | 11:09 | |
| shadeslayer | heh | 11:09 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer, Riddell: I don't want it handled in bluesystems channels etc, the server it runs on I do not care about | 11:10 |
| apachelogger | plasma-workspace, desktop and qtcurve moving to next | 11:35 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I totally feel like we should automate this :P | 11:35 |
| yofel | you want to wire up britney for it? :D | 11:50 |
| apachelogger | maaaaaaybe | 11:50 |
| apachelogger | although, I'd actually rather have something that is blocking all migration when something fails | 11:51 |
| yofel | well, britney blocks breakage, isn't that enough? | 11:51 |
| apachelogger | not consequential enough if you ask me | 11:52 |
| apachelogger | I mean, it's fine for archive scale, considering the limited set of the ppa I'd find it perfectly acceptable to consider the stage as a whole for migration and therefore block it as a whole if something is broken | 11:53 |
| apachelogger | softwareproperties and usb-creator in stage | 11:54 |
| ScottK | Riddell: infinity needs to bless any trusty changes atm. | 11:54 |
| apachelogger | mh | 11:54 |
| yofel | well, britney doesn't actually migrate stuff, it creates the list of stuff that can migrate. If that's not all you can just abort | 11:55 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: shadeslayer: you know, for the qt5 ports it might actually worthwhile to wire up recipes | 11:55 |
| apachelogger | yofel: ic | 11:55 |
| yofel | what I said is true when running it locally at least, it can feed its output directly into the dak database, but we don't use dak | 11:56 |
| Mamarok | Riddell: my fund application for the LiMux event was accepted :) | 12:14 |
| === ximion1 is now known as ximion-afk | ||
| === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch | ||
| Riddell | Mamarok: yay! | 12:19 |
| Mamarok | yep, that's really nice :) | 12:21 |
| Mamarok | but we are not many yet, any more people attending? | 12:22 |
| apachelogger | there's kde people attending as well IIRC | 12:23 |
| apachelogger | ah there's a new notes | 12:23 |
| apachelogger | hm, software-properties icon is broken somehow | 12:28 |
| apachelogger | or maybe I forgot to set it | 12:28 |
| apachelogger | who knows :S | 12:28 |
| Riddell | app icons are still a bit broken for me, kmenuedit doesn't work, app template one doesn't work | 12:31 |
| apachelogger | kmenuedit wouldn't surprise me if it has none set | 12:31 |
| apachelogger | given that its kaboutdata appears pretty kaput | 12:31 |
| Riddell | still I'd like to know why it doesn't work in the kapptemplate one I made https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/119388/ | 12:33 |
| Riddell | http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/moo.tar.gz | 12:33 |
| apachelogger | CMake Warning (dev) at /usr/share/ECM/modules/ECMInstallIcons.cmake:205 (message): | 12:34 |
| apachelogger | ecm_install_icons() with no ICONS argument is deprecated | 12:34 |
| apachelogger | that maybe? | 12:34 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qapplication.html#windowIcon-prop | 12:37 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: that just installs it, they still get installed | 12:38 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: I was hoping that aboutData.setProgramIconName() would do that for me | 12:38 |
| apachelogger | actually | 12:39 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: works for me | 12:39 |
| apachelogger | I think | 12:39 |
| Riddell | shows the gear icon? | 12:39 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: http://i.imgur.com/Mveh1Ke.png | 12:40 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: you did install, right? :P | 12:40 |
| apachelogger | uhh, recipe build seems to work nicely for qt5 packaging | 12:41 |
| Riddell | -- Installing: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/./moo.png | 12:42 |
| Riddell | yep it installs | 12:42 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: are you using the plasma 5 packages or the neon packages? | 12:43 |
| apachelogger | plasma | 12:43 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: anyway can you take a screenshot of the app for kapptemplate? | 12:43 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: you have frameworkintegration installed, right? :P | 12:43 |
| Riddell | I do | 12:43 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: what's you icon theme in systemsettings? | 12:43 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: breeze | 12:44 |
| apachelogger | hm | 12:45 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: rm .cache/*kicon* | 12:45 |
| apachelogger | then try again | 12:45 |
| Riddell | rm ~/.cache/icon-cache.kcache; moo makes no difference | 12:46 |
| Riddell | it is spooky | 12:46 |
| Riddell | '"Theme tree: (Breeze)"' pointless debug output annoys me | 12:47 |
| apachelogger | hm | 12:48 |
| apachelogger | very curious | 12:48 |
| Riddell | very | 12:48 |
| Riddell | can I have my screenshot now? | 12:48 |
| apachelogger | thing is also, I think mine is going entirely through the cache | 12:48 |
| apachelogger | I have no file access on moo.png | 12:48 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: can't do dropshadow though | 12:49 |
| apachelogger | kwin doesn't like novulsululuooo | 12:49 |
| apachelogger | http://i.imgur.com/md7uXvu.png | 12:50 |
| Riddell | lovely, thanks | 12:51 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: no kjs in the archive? | 13:03 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: khtml, kdelibs4support | 13:05 |
| apachelogger | An unhandled exception occurred: | 13:05 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: kiconthemes | 13:05 |
| apachelogger | name 'KStandardDirs' is not defined | 13:05 |
| apachelogger | :'( | 13:05 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: it's in support no? | 13:05 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: kjsembed | 13:06 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: it's not in python tho :P | 13:06 |
| apachelogger | anyway, problem is that usb-creator decides to use different ways to lookup the data assets when run from source and when run from install path | 13:06 |
| apachelogger | didn't catch that | 13:06 |
| apachelogger | in software-properties it works all the same | 13:07 |
| apachelogger | I tell you the python software we have is a work of madness | 13:07 |
| apachelogger | there's no common solutions, no shared stuff, no code style or structure that is the same | 13:08 |
| apachelogger | it's like a reinvention of the reinvention of the reinvention | 13:08 |
| Riddell | mostly it's ports of the ubuntu stuff | 13:08 |
| apachelogger | and those are inconsistent as well | 13:08 |
| apachelogger | but all apps I have seen have kde specific logic to deal with a) translations and b) encoding | 13:09 |
| apachelogger | and all were different | 13:09 |
| apachelogger | and by different I don't mean they looked slightly different... they were doing entirely different things to achieve the same goal | 13:09 |
| apachelogger | one of them has a like 20 sloc function to translate qt ui files and the other has 4..... | 13:10 |
| * apachelogger always almost accidentally deletes ppas when wanting to delete a package -.- | 13:11 | |
| apachelogger | it's got the same icon, is at the almost the same location, and it has an annoying page with an ugly button that looks like the build-retry page which I learned to ignore | 13:12 |
| apachelogger | muchos dangerous | 13:12 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: are you planning to land qtcurve in the archive btw? | 13:14 |
| === greyback|lunch is now known as greyback | ||
| * apachelogger pokes launchpad with a stick | 13:20 | |
| apachelogger | is it just me or are some builders really really slow? | 13:21 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning all | 13:25 |
| shadeslayer | \o/ | 13:26 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: ^^ | 13:26 |
| shadeslayer | lets see | 13:27 |
| shadeslayer | kubotu: imager build | 13:27 |
| shadeslayer | :( | 13:27 |
| shadeslayer | guess not | 13:27 |
| apachelogger | didn't feel like it clearly | 13:28 |
| shadeslayer | ^^ | 13:28 |
| shadeslayer | kubuntuBot: imager build | 13:32 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you could take him to a different channel you know | 13:35 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: #apacheloggerslounge is always free :P | 13:35 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 13:35 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: hola, wanting to look at opencv today? | 13:50 |
| Riddell | meh if I want to compile anything kde4 that cares about activities I need to remove plasma-workspace and desktop | 13:54 |
| Riddell | upstream sucks! | 13:54 |
| apachelogger | meh | 14:05 |
| * apachelogger doesn't want to package debconf qt5 port with recipe :'< | 14:05 | |
| kubotu | feed branches had 9 updates, showing the latest 6 | 14:38 |
| apachelogger | The next import is scheduled to run as soon as possible. | 15:09 |
| apachelogger | I think lunchpad is too busy to let me work on the qt5 ports ... | 15:10 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: anything left to port btw? | 15:13 |
| shadeslayer | I can have a look at it on Friday | 15:13 |
| apachelogger | nope | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | yes | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | ubiquity | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | but xnox wanted to do that anyway, so best check with him | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: how's kdesudo going btw? | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: ah well, and all of muon | 15:17 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | not particularly blocking though | 15:17 |
| shadeslayer | I'm going to leave that beast to Aleix | 15:17 |
| xnox | apachelogger: what do you mean about ubiquity?! | 15:18 |
| xnox | i see nothing outstanding | 15:18 |
| apachelogger | xnox: qt5 porting | 15:20 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: was working yesterday, not done anything today and needs a bunch of tidying up, then it needs proposed to go into plasma, I guess another day's work | 15:21 |
| xnox | apachelogger: oh porting to qt5, right, haven't started that yet. | 15:21 |
| xnox | apachelogger: there are vague plans around it. | 15:22 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: ^ | 15:22 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: question is whether I should do more 4.14 beta tomorrow or kdesudo or 4.04.1 | 15:22 |
| apachelogger | beta | 15:22 |
| apachelogger | I do think kdesu (5) needs to have alternatives support added, I don't think I have seen that yet | 15:24 |
| apachelogger | without that we cannot smoothly hijack kdesu calls | 15:24 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: alternative debian package system or more internal to kdesu | 15:25 |
| apachelogger | former | 15:25 |
| Riddell | I did port kdesu to sudo back in the day but its split architecture means it doesn't remember the password | 15:25 |
| Riddell | so we switched to kdesudo | 15:25 |
| apachelogger | I think we used diversion at some point and I switched it to alternatives because diversions would break every other year | 15:25 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: kdesudo doesn't do that either (anymore) (for unknown reasons) | 15:26 |
| apachelogger | so we might as well use kdesu :P | 15:26 |
| Riddell | remember the password? sure it does | 15:26 |
| Riddell | did yesterday when i was testing | 15:26 |
| Riddell | I had to run sudo -k lots to forget it | 15:26 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: maybe kdesudo needs to be fixed for that then | 15:28 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: at any rate, if password remembering is the only reason we'd want to keep kdesudo I'd just ditch ignore that shortcoming and use kdesu | 15:28 |
| apachelogger | I mean, there's next to no cases where something needs sudo to begin with | 15:29 |
| apachelogger | in fact I have a hard time to come up with a recent kdesudo run :P | 15:29 |
| apachelogger | ah, inproperly set up users will get sudo queried when mounting devices I thinkg | 15:30 |
| Riddell | yes there's a lot fewer now thanks to polkit | 15:30 |
| yofel | software-properties IIRC uses kdesudo | 15:31 |
| apachelogger | mh, I'd assess whether kdesu wit h sudo wouldn't be better | 15:31 |
| apachelogger | yofel: not for long | 15:31 |
| yofel | but it's not that much that uses it, so kdesu should do the job | 15:31 |
| apachelogger | in fact I already had made the port to dbus and it was merged, somehow I then didn't port our stuff to the dbus api though :P | 15:31 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: oh and kdesudo surely doesn't remember since 13.04 or so | 15:31 |
| yofel | what? meaning my stupid bug workarounds are still in there? :D | 15:32 |
| apachelogger | and no one complained AFAIK, so I really don't think remembering is that much of a killer feature anymore | 15:32 |
| apachelogger | yofel: in kdesudo? | 15:32 |
| yofel | s-p | 15:32 |
| apachelogger | probably | 15:32 |
| apachelogger | there's a 14.10 card to make it less shitty | 15:33 |
| Riddell | it remembered yesterday in my frameworks port! | 15:33 |
| apachelogger | I'll probably do that on the qt5 port though, seems more convenient anyway | 15:33 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: wut :O | 15:33 |
| apachelogger | magic | 15:33 |
| yofel | right | 15:33 |
| apachelogger | maybe kde4 is kaput ;) | 15:33 |
| apachelogger | I definitely recall kdesudo not remember the password | 15:33 |
| apachelogger | twas back when my system had a kate I could use kdesudo on | 15:34 |
| apachelogger | The program 'kate' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: | 15:34 |
| yofel | yeah, doesn't remember it here | 15:34 |
| apachelogger | :'< | 15:34 |
| lordievader | Good afternoon. | 15:40 |
| lordievader | Lets see, can I find a vm to test 14.04.1 | 15:40 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: feel free to do whatever you want with krunner btw, clearly packaging doesn't matter | 15:43 |
| shadeslayer | and we're all just whiling away our time here | 15:43 |
| Riddell | yep, we should just package kdesrc-build and leave it at that | 15:44 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: krunner updated for your review and upload | 15:45 |
| yofel | !info kdesrc-build | 15:45 |
| ubottu | kdesrc-build (source: kdesrc-build): tool for building KDE from its source repositories. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.15.1-1 (trusty), package size 162 kB, installed size 616 kB | 15:45 |
| Riddell | it's all anyone needs | 15:45 |
| yofel | ^^ | 15:45 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: E: krunner source: version-substvar-for-external-package libkf5runner5-dbg -> libkf5runner-bin | 15:48 |
| Riddell | mm | 15:49 |
| shadeslayer | fixed and uploaded | 15:50 |
| Riddell | groovy | 15:50 |
| Riddell | have some bonus points for reviewing | 15:50 |
| yofel | The following packages will be REMOVED: | 15:57 |
| yofel | plasma-widget-milou-kf5 | 15:57 |
| yofel | intentional ^ ? | 15:57 |
| Riddell | it was renamed I think | 15:59 |
| yofel | ok | 15:59 |
| * yofel goes back to upstart for the time being - too many service restart issues in updates :( | 16:00 | |
| Riddell | I'm making frameworks libraries with a qml module have an implicit dependency on that module in the .symbols file | 16:00 |
| shadeslayer | hm | 16:00 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Riddel: Hey sorry, just got back from a meeting, yes am right up for opencv, would it be OK to start this evening after dinner, in about an hour and half ? | 16:00 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: somehow zenity gets pulled into the ISO btw | 16:00 |
| yofel | might as well figure out suspend with upower 0.99 | 16:00 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Doh! | 16:00 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: what does the germinate output say? | 16:01 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Riddell: ^^ | 16:01 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: aure | 16:01 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: sure | 16:01 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: this is for 5 btw | 16:01 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Riddell: Great, will ping you in a little while, thanks | 16:02 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: I assumed as much :P | 16:02 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: well, it's no there in the seed | 16:02 |
| shadeslayer | so something else must be causing it | 16:02 |
| yofel | well yeah, but germinate will tell you where it gets it from... | 16:03 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: no, it doesn't end up in the meta package too afaict | 16:03 |
| yofel | do you have the germinate output at hand? | 16:03 |
| shadeslayer | nope, I can run it though | 16:03 |
| Riddell | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/kubuntu.utopic/ | 16:03 |
| shadeslayer | wrong one :p | 16:03 |
| Riddell | don't see it in desktop or desktop-common | 16:03 |
| Riddell | oh the plasma 5 image | 16:04 |
| yofel | please do, it should log the reason for every package in the seed, not just the explicit ones | 16:04 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: btw. is there a guide that tells how one makes sddm work? | 16:07 |
| shadeslayer | sudo service sddm start ? | 16:07 |
| shadeslayer | make sure you have the maui theme? | 16:07 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7842642/ | 16:07 |
| yofel | maui is installed, start hangs for ~10s, then fails | 16:07 |
| shadeslayer | try sudo sddm | 16:08 |
| shadeslayer | does that work | 16:08 |
| yofel | that froze the terminal | 16:08 |
| shadeslayer | note that sddm will start on tty1 | 16:09 |
| yofel | yeah, it froze tty1 | 16:09 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: do you have the germinate output? That should have zenity somewhere in it | 16:10 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7842642/ | 16:15 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: not that, the folder that Riddell pointed to | 16:15 |
| shadeslayer | aha, wait | 16:15 |
| shadeslayer | * Chose zenity to satisfy im-config | 16:15 |
| shadeslayer | thought so | 16:15 |
| shadeslayer | will need fixing in zenity | 16:16 |
| * yofel wonders how quassel, firefox, 2x dolphin, plasma + services can use up 5G of memory [firefox is 1G of that] | 16:17 | |
| shadeslayer | yofel: KDE 4? or Plasma 5? | 16:20 |
| yofel | 4 | 16:20 |
| shadeslayer | sounds like a mem leak | 16:20 |
| yofel | top is fun, I have 14 akonadi_* processes | 16:22 |
| yofel | make that 17 with mysql and akonadiserver | 16:22 |
| yofel | so, sudo sddm does at least switch me to tty1 and starts X | 16:28 |
| yofel | but I never see it | 16:28 |
| shadeslayer | is this bare metal? | 16:29 |
| yofel | yeah, my eeePC with it's 945GME | 16:29 |
| shadeslayer | not a clue really then | 16:30 |
| shadeslayer | its known to be shit with VBox | 16:30 |
| shadeslayer | but should work with actual hw | 16:30 |
| yofel | wait, it did start X, so let me check the log of that | 16:30 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: well, logs should be in /var/log/sddm | 16:30 |
| yofel | there is a sddm.log, which doesn't really tell much | 16:31 |
| shadeslayer | d_ed: ^^ | 16:31 |
| kubotu | feed branches had 10 updates, showing the latest 6 | 16:38 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: did you ever hear back on your insights bug | 16:44 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Riddell: Hi I'm ready when you are | 17:30 |
| Riddell | hi Sick_Rimmit | 17:32 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: you'll need an ssh key, do you have one? | 17:32 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Hello, I'm ready to have a go at merging opencv | 17:32 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Yes, my key is lodged with launchpad too | 17:32 |
| Riddell | oh yes | 17:33 |
| Sick_Rimmit | https://launchpad.net/~rick-timmis | 17:33 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: ssh ubuntu@ec2-54-205-86-101.compute-1.amazonaws.com | 17:33 |
| Riddell | run byobu | 17:33 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: great | 17:35 |
| Sick_Rimmit | OK done | 17:35 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: we've on a shared screen on this ec2 cloud server | 17:35 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: so I think first thing would be to make a directory called current and apt-get source opencv | 17:35 |
| Riddell | (oh I should say other people use more fancy tools for this than I tend to use) | 17:36 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Riddell: Looks good | 17:37 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: now make another directory called debi and dget the debian source | 17:37 |
| Riddell | which you can get from packages.debian.org | 17:37 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Riddell: is ther an apt command for that ? | 17:38 |
| Riddell | no | 17:39 |
| Riddell | cos it's not in the archive, that's kindae the purpose of the exercise :) | 17:39 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Riddell: OK | 17:39 |
| Riddell | go to https://packages.debian.org/src:opencv | 17:39 |
| Sick_Rimmit | OK, hangon let me see if ... ah | 17:39 |
| Riddell | click sid | 17:39 |
| Sick_Rimmit | ha | 17:39 |
| Riddell | find the opencv_2.4.9+dfsg-1.dsc link at the bottom | 17:39 |
| Riddell | dget | 17:39 |
| Sick_Rimmit | ah OK got it | 17:41 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: dget | 17:42 |
| Riddell | which uses wget to download the .dsc orig and debian.tar | 17:42 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: looking at the debian changelog there, no changes mentioned, great | 17:43 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: looking at the current ubuntu changelog, there's a few changes in the ubuntu package | 17:43 |
| Sick_Rimmit | OK, I'm with you mainly | 17:43 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: so to merge we take the debian package, make the same changes again in the package and voila | 17:44 |
| Sick_Rimmit | dget clearly do some special magic | 17:44 |
| Riddell | it just works out what the three URLs are you need to wget | 17:45 |
| Sick_Rimmit | may I look around for a moment | 17:45 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: ok I just made a diff file so we see the differences in the packaging, there's a few bits in there we need to copy over, nothing much | 17:45 |
| Riddell | sure | 17:45 |
| Sick_Rimmit | bear with me, just need to catch up | 17:46 |
| Riddell | oh, more testing needed | 17:49 |
| Sick_Rimmit | OK, So perhaps we need to update the changelog to reflect the changes | 17:49 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: we need to start with the .orig tar from debian | 17:49 |
| Riddell | add a new changelog | 17:49 |
| Riddell | merge in the old changelog entries | 17:49 |
| Riddell | then merge in all the packaging differences | 17:49 |
| Riddell | then test | 17:49 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Yep, OK this rings beels | 17:49 |
| Sick_Rimmit | or even bells | 17:49 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: so cp debi/*orig* . | 17:50 |
| Riddell | untar it | 17:50 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: you had it | 17:52 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: tar xf is all it needs, it'll detect the compression type | 17:53 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Ah ok | 17:53 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: and copy the debian/ from the debi packaging as well into the extracted opencv source | 17:53 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Roger | 17:54 |
| Riddell | lovely | 17:55 |
| Riddell | dch -i to add a new changelog entry | 17:55 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Oh I hate being watched. my keyboard dyslexia gets bad | 17:55 |
| Riddell | I can see your every typo :) | 17:56 |
| Sick_Rimmit | lol | 17:56 |
| Riddell | make the entry say Merge with Debian, reamining changes: | 17:56 |
| Riddell | and put in your own name and e-mail for the fame and glory | 17:56 |
| Riddell | save that, we'll do the copy and pasting next | 17:56 |
| Riddell | copy and paste the time :) | 17:57 |
| Riddell | cos you're a year out there | 17:58 |
| Sick_Rimmit | What edit is this | 17:58 |
| Sick_Rimmit | editor | 17:58 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: emacs of course, are there any others? | 17:58 |
| Sick_Rimmit | I have never used emacs | 17:58 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Some Vi | 17:58 |
| Sick_Rimmit | But almost always nano | 17:58 |
| Sick_Rimmit | no worries though | 17:59 |
| Riddell | "badly formatted trailer line" it's moaning that you need two spaces after your e-mail address | 17:59 |
| Riddell | add those in | 17:59 |
| Riddell | you can use nano | 17:59 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Oh Boy!! | 18:00 |
| Riddell | what have you done? | 18:00 |
| Sick_Rimmit | I broke it | 18:00 |
| Riddell | no it's all good | 18:00 |
| Sick_Rimmit | OK I think it's right now | 18:00 |
| Riddell | but for the next trick you might need something more than nano | 18:00 |
| Riddell | it needs both changelogs open and copy/paste between them | 18:01 |
| Riddell | which I don't think nano can do | 18:01 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: want me to just do it? | 18:01 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Yes let me watch | 18:01 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: there I copied in the list of remaining changes | 18:01 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Oohh clever | 18:02 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: and here I copied in the whole of the old ubuntu changelog at the place where we diverged from debian | 18:02 |
| Sick_Rimmit | OK, still with oyu | 18:03 |
| Sick_Rimmit | you | 18:03 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: so you can see there's only 1 debian version we have to update for | 18:03 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: now we need to look at that diff file and merge in any changes which are still relevant | 18:04 |
| Riddell | the first one being that Maintainer change in debian/control which debian asks us to do | 18:04 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: want to copy and paste that in? | 18:04 |
| Riddell | that's just less | 18:05 |
| Riddell | press q to quit | 18:05 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Nope, I getting foxed by the tools | 18:06 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: you can use kate if you want | 18:06 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Nah, I'm lost | 18:06 |
| Riddell | just I can't watch then | 18:06 |
| Riddell | want to use kate? | 18:06 |
| Sick_Rimmit | I'm struggling with my shell short cuts Ctrl+Shift+C | 18:07 |
| Sick_Rimmit | etc.. | 18:07 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: right, so use kate | 18:07 |
| Riddell | in kate click the url bar and open sftp://ubuntu@ec2-54-205-86-101.compute-1.amazonaws.com/home/ubuntu/mnt/opencv/ | 18:07 |
| Riddell | then open DIFF | 18:08 |
| Riddell | and debian/control | 18:08 |
| Sick_Rimmit | One moment, I might be able to get his | 18:08 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: you want to open the DIFF file | 18:09 |
| Riddell | and copy and paste (locally with your mouse) | 18:09 |
| Riddell | the Maintainer changes | 18:09 |
| Riddell | into debian/control | 18:09 |
| Riddell | nope, not that one :) | 18:10 |
| Sick_Rimmit | No other way round, I want to add the kubuntu maintinaer | 18:10 |
| Riddell | yep | 18:10 |
| Sick_Rimmit | like this | 18:11 |
| Riddell | yep, 1 line done, lots more to go :) | 18:11 |
| Riddell | just after that is another line with the modified debian maintainer | 18:12 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Hangon just going to get another shell onto the box | 18:13 |
| Riddell | that's a good idea | 18:13 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Ah blow | 18:14 |
| Sick_Rimmit | OK 'm getting there | 18:15 |
| Riddell | you quit byobu? | 18:15 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Nah I'm out of byobu, | 18:16 |
| Sick_Rimmit | I'm on there server, and can get to the director, which I have done in a second shell. | 18:16 |
| Riddell | ok well you're on your own then :) | 18:17 |
| Sick_Rimmit | but In the original shell I can seem to get back into byobu | 18:17 |
| Riddell | can or can't? | 18:17 |
| Sick_Rimmit | can't | 18:17 |
| Riddell | looks like you're in | 18:17 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Ah right | 18:18 |
| Sick_Rimmit | hang on let me get reorganised | 18:18 |
| Riddell | yay | 18:21 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: so next change in DIFF is those changes for !ppc64el | 18:21 |
| Riddell | dunno who has a ppc64el machine to care but we'll be nice to them and copy it over | 18:22 |
| Sick_Rimmit | I'm pretty certain I have no idea what I am doing | 18:25 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: voila, just replace "ocl-icd-opencl-dev," with "ocl-icd-opencl-dev [!ppc64el]," | 18:26 |
| Riddell | next one is "libopencv-ml-dev" | 18:26 |
| Riddell | replace that with "libopencv-ml-dev, libopencv-ocl-dev [!ppc64el]" | 18:27 |
| Riddell | (with a new line in there) | 18:27 |
| Riddell | search for "Conflicts: libcvaux-dev (<= 2.1.0-7), libhighgui-dev (<= 2.1.0-7)" to find where that needs done | 18:27 |
| Riddell | in the diff + lines are from debian and - lines are from ubuntu | 18:29 |
| Sick_Rimmit | I'm sorry Riddell, I have no comprehension of the principle at play here, so I just blindly cut, copy paste. | 18:29 |
| Riddell | we want to put the - lines in the package (assuming they're still relevant changes) | 18:29 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: here's where the next change is | 18:30 |
| Riddell | you can see in the DIFF +libopencv-ml-dev | 18:30 |
| Riddell | that's from debian so we want to change it to the ubuntu values | 18:30 |
| Riddell | -libopencv-ml-dev, | 18:30 |
| Riddell | - libopencv-ocl-dev [!ppc64el] | 18:30 |
| Sick_Rimmit | did you make the other change above, whilst I was not looking > | 18:30 |
| Riddell | nope, you go ahead | 18:30 |
| Riddell | I just scrolled down to the next change point | 18:30 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Ah ha, OK OK | 18:31 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: not quite, add in both lines I pasted above at 18:30 | 18:31 |
| Riddell | that's one, the other one is "libopencv-ocl-dev [!ppc64el]" (you have it wrong for "libopencv-ml-dev [!ppc64el]") | 18:33 |
| Riddell | nice :) | 18:33 |
| Riddell | perfecto | 18:33 |
| Sick_Rimmit | OK let see | 18:33 |
| Riddell | next one change "libopencv-ocl-dev (= ${binary:Version})," to "libopencv-ocl-dev (= ${binary:Version}) [!ppc64el]," | 18:34 |
| Riddell | you'll need to search with control-w to find where that is first | 18:34 |
| Riddell | yep there | 18:35 |
| Riddell | lovely | 18:36 |
| Riddell | yep, update that Breaks line | 18:37 |
| * lordievader goes to test 14.04.1 i386 | 18:37 | |
| Riddell | lordievader++ | 18:37 |
| Riddell | lordievader: oh and upgrade testing needed too if you're able | 18:37 |
| soee | plasma-widget-milou-kf5 renamed to milou now ? i | 18:37 |
| lordievader | Riddell: From Precise? I saw I still had a Precise VM logical volume (not sure if Precise is actually on there) | 18:37 |
| Riddell | lordievader: yeah I guess both precise and saucy | 18:38 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: magnifico, save it, that file is done | 18:38 |
| Riddell | soee: yep | 18:39 |
| Sick_Rimmit | OK, I think I got that, just the earlier bulk paste you did, but I have an understanding of what is taking place | 18:39 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: you see the next change to libopencv2.4-java.install ? | 18:39 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: that looks like the filename has changed for the new version and debian has updated that in their packaging | 18:40 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: we will want to keep that debian version because it'll be the same filename in our package | 18:40 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: so nothing for us to do there | 18:40 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: understand? | 18:40 |
| Sick_Rimmit | hangong | 18:40 |
| lordievader | Groovy, the Precise-lv actually contains Precise. Time to upgrade ;) | 18:41 |
| Sick_Rimmit | @ L222 and L223 yes | 18:41 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Yes now I understand | 18:41 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: so the next change we have to care about is libav10.patch | 18:41 |
| Riddell | which is a file change, we either want to keep the file debian has added or not | 18:42 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: "Support building with the upcoming Libav 10 release" | 18:42 |
| Riddell | this sounds like a good thing so I say we keep it | 18:42 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: do you agree? | 18:42 |
| Sick_Rimmit | May we don't want that support as we want it to build with current.. | 18:43 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: ah smart thinking | 18:44 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: but I know other places have had to be patched for libav10 so I think here will too | 18:44 |
| yofel | utopic has libav10 so you most likely want that | 18:44 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: it'll be an API change so we can find out by compiling it | 18:44 |
| Riddell | if it compiles then we've done the right thing | 18:45 |
| Riddell | the next change in DIFF is just adding that patch to debian/patches/series so we keep that too | 18:45 |
| Sick_Rimmit | hangon grokking | 18:46 |
| Sick_Rimmit | I'm getting what;s going on with this DIFF file now.. the mist is clearing | 18:47 |
| Riddell | the next change in DIFF is an update to debian/patches/support_multiarch, debian usually know better than me what they're doing with multiarch so we'll keep that too | 18:47 |
| Riddell | finally a change in debian/rules to support armhf, we will want to copy over those changes | 18:48 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Loads of cahnges to the libav patch.. | 18:48 |
| Sick_Rimmit | nothing for us to do here thought | 18:48 |
| Riddell | with a patch file you usually either want it or you don't | 18:49 |
| Sick_Rimmit | OK @L1004 | 18:49 |
| Sick_Rimmit | name change, we'll keep that | 18:50 |
| Riddell | if you're having trouble reading the debian/patch changes it's a diff of a diff, so don't bother about what's in the files, it'll mess with your mind, just care about the files | 18:51 |
| Sick_Rimmit | OK EOF, I believe the DIFF changes are complete | 18:51 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: debian/rules changes need to go in | 18:51 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Ah didn;t spot that | 18:51 |
| Riddell | copy in the lines starting from "# No GL on armhf" | 18:52 |
| Riddell | and remove "-DWITH_OPENGL=ON" | 18:52 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Why remover OPENGL=ON | 18:56 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: that's lower down | 18:56 |
| Riddell | debian has it set so it always adds -DWITH_OPENGL=ON | 18:56 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Ah I see | 18:57 |
| Riddell | the lines you just pasted in set it on or off depending on whether it's on armhf | 18:57 |
| Riddell | so scroll down until you get to the bit where is always has -DWITH_OPENGL=ON | 18:57 |
| Sick_Rimmit | SO how did you know that line needed ot be removed | 18:58 |
| Riddell | reading the diff file it shows that debian has that "-DWITH_OPENGL=ON" while the ubuntu one has "No GL on armhf" | 18:58 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Voila | 18:58 |
| Riddell | the changelog we copyied over earlier said it was a change in ubuntu to "don't build OpenGL on armhf" | 18:58 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Ah right, I would not have had that level of knowledge to know that | 18:58 |
| Riddell | so this is the way to do that | 18:59 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: lovely, save and quit nano | 18:59 |
| Riddell | all changed copied over, we're ready to compile and test it | 18:59 |
| Riddell | any questions? | 18:59 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Ah, OK, perhaps its moving a little fast for me, but I am getting to understand quite a lot | 18:59 |
| Riddell | it probably doesn't help that you're not very familiar yet with all the basic packaging stuff | 19:00 |
| Riddell | and you're not too familiar with command line text editors | 19:00 |
| Riddell | but it should be good to go now | 19:00 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Yes, can you put that original magic diff command into here so I can copy it can go read the manpage | 19:00 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: that one I just typed in | 19:01 |
| Riddell | although many people prefer to use magic merge tools that do such things for you | 19:01 |
| Riddell | or to get the diff off merges.ubuntu.com | 19:01 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Ah well you created a DIFF file, perhaps the switch was -urN | 19:01 |
| Riddell | yes you're right | 19:02 |
| Riddell | fixed in terminal screen | 19:02 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Yep great.. | 19:02 |
| Sick_Rimmit | I'll get me head round that with man | 19:02 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: ready to compile? | 19:03 |
| Sick_Rimmit | I'll also go check out emacs | 19:03 |
| Riddell | you won't regret it :) | 19:03 |
| Riddell | ok you will | 19:03 |
| Riddell | but you'll regret it less than vi | 19:03 |
| Sick_Rimmit | I really am not much on vi | 19:03 |
| Sick_Rimmit | What I like about nano is the easy access to the help menu's, | 19:04 |
| Riddell | yes nano is great, just has the major limitation of only opening 1 file at a time | 19:04 |
| Sick_Rimmit | OK I am ready to compile now | 19:04 |
| Riddell | (I think, maybe it's changed since I last looked) | 19:04 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: this ec2 is a rather sweet little server with 8 processors | 19:04 |
| Riddell | so run debuild -j8 to compile it | 19:05 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Just copying that command so I can man it later | 19:05 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: stop stop | 19:06 |
| Sick_Rimmit | OK | 19:06 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: you uncompressed and are not re-compresssing it | 19:06 |
| Riddell | that'll probably change some timestamp or something | 19:07 |
| Riddell | just copy the .orig over from the debi/ directory | 19:07 |
| Sick_Rimmit | hangon I'll fix | 19:07 |
| Riddell | so we have exactly the same .orig as Debian | 19:07 |
| Riddell | cp debi/*orig* . | 19:08 |
| Riddell | no recompressing! | 19:08 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Ah ha OK | 19:08 |
| Riddell | whee, lots of build-dependencies to install | 19:09 |
| Riddell | /usr/lib/pbuilder/pbuilder-satisfydepends | 19:10 |
| Riddell | that's the magic command to install them | 19:10 |
| Riddell | or you can apt install and do lots of copy and paste | 19:10 |
| Sick_Rimmit | that's jolly clever | 19:11 |
| Riddell | it is, not sure why it's hidden away in /usr/lib | 19:11 |
| Sick_Rimmit | This is going to take some practice, and there are loads of holes in my picture, but I feel good about making some progress | 19:12 |
| Riddell | I hope you're making notes :) | 19:13 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Yes, and I will write this up later, like I did last night with digikam | 19:13 |
| Sick_Rimmit | My usual method of information retention, is just to keep beating myself with the same pointy stick | 19:14 |
| Sick_Rimmit | until it resonates | 19:14 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: groovy installed, debuild -j8 again | 19:14 |
| Sick_Rimmit | OK lets try that again | 19:14 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: still at the office? :o | 19:15 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: yep | 19:15 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: looks like we're smoking, time to have a cup of tea or do some 14.04.1 candidate test installs, whatever makes you relax :) | 19:16 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Hey, so will this take a while to compile, and what will happen at the end, a shiny .deb ? | 19:17 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: it says it's at 3% so yes it'll take some minutes | 19:17 |
| Riddell | and yes you'll get a .deb at the end if all goes well | 19:18 |
| Riddell | this is quite a complex package so you'll get lots of .debs | 19:18 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Riddell: Mind blowing stuff man | 19:18 |
| * Sick_Rimmit wanders off dazed and looking for coffee pot | 19:19 | |
| Riddell | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opencv/2.4.8+dfsg1-2.2ubuntu4/+build/6128550 Finished on 2014-06-25 (took 53 minutes, 19.0 seconds) | 19:19 |
| * genii makes a fresh batch | 19:19 | |
| Riddell | that's the last compile on the ubuntu servers so take your time, you have an hour | 19:19 |
| yofel | mhm, coffee, good idea | 19:20 |
| Riddell | "We are very happy to tell you that we accepted your submission" gosh I'm going to be talking at akademy | 19:20 |
| Riddell | I should work out what to talk about | 19:20 |
| genii | Riddell: Congrats | 19:21 |
| Riddell | genii: thanks! what for? | 19:25 |
| Riddell | oh the submission | 19:25 |
| genii | Hehe, yes | 19:25 |
| Riddell | this is my chance at fame and glory | 19:25 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 19:26 |
| Riddell | ah glasgow is having a party, that's nice for them | 19:34 |
| Riddell | although why do they have to have english presenters for the biggest sports occation in scottish recent history? another reason for a yes vote | 19:34 |
| lordievader | Riddell: (Updated) Precise tells me no new release is available -.- | 19:43 |
| Riddell | lordievader: you'll need to do it manually | 19:43 |
| Riddell | the automated popup isn't turned on til after .1 is out usually | 19:44 |
| lordievader | Riddell: By changing the sources you mean? | 19:44 |
| Riddell | run kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade | 19:44 |
| lordievader | Running :) | 19:46 |
| 20WAAT1LP | guys.. any idea when kde 4.13.3 will be available for kubuntu 14.04 via ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa | 19:51 |
| 20WAAT1LP | 19:51 | |
| Riddell | 20WAAT1LP: nobody is working on it yet, we've got plasma 5 and 14.04 beta as higher priority I'm afraid | 19:52 |
| genii | lordievader: As I understand, 14.04.1 is available tomorrow, which means LTS->LTS should be automatically available after that | 19:53 |
| 20WAAT1LP | @riddell okay fair position i can live with that 4.13.2 runs so smooth and stable here | 19:53 |
| Riddell | genii: he's testing it to make sure it works before we release :) | 19:53 |
| Riddell | more testing welcomed | 19:54 |
| 20WAAT1LP | and yeh plasma 5 good luck with it :) i run it sometimes and i like what i see but the workflow i have now with 4.13.2 i just dont wanna give up on this :P | 19:54 |
| genii | Riddell: I don't have Precise installed anyplace anymore now.... running Utopic on this box and Trusty on most of the others | 19:54 |
| Riddell | perfect, you can test 14.04.1 install :) | 19:55 |
| genii | Riddell: Is in the normal kubuntu ppas or ninja? | 19:57 |
| Riddell | genii: ISO images to install | 19:57 |
| Riddell | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/318/builds | 19:57 |
| genii | OK, I'll download then test on one of the boxes here in a few hours when i finish work | 19:58 |
| Riddell | great, much appreciated | 19:58 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: if you can take yourself away from singing glaswegians, your compile is ready | 20:16 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Riddell: Yes I am here, looks like the was a signing issue and some Lintian E: Errors | 20:17 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: right it doesn't have your gpg key on the server, that's fine if it's trying to sign it it means everything else is good | 20:17 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Wow - look at all those shiny debs | 20:18 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Now, that was FUN !! | 20:18 |
| Riddell | lintian does checking for common errors, I'm not too fussed about them, if it's good enough for debian it's good enough for us | 20:18 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: so test they install fine, dpkg --install *deb | 20:20 |
| Sick_Rimmit | OK, do I made some reasonable notes, there are a few things I need to read up on, but there is only one thing for it | 20:20 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Need to do it again, on something else | 20:20 |
| Sick_Rimmit | OK lets give it a go | 20:20 |
| Sick_Rimmit | what do you think | 20:21 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Mmm looks good | 20:22 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: cool, I think we're ready to upload | 20:23 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: back in the sources run debuild -S to build the source package | 20:23 |
| * Sick_Rimmit grins | 20:24 | |
| Sick_Rimmit | Looks good | 20:25 |
| Riddell | signing it | 20:25 |
| Riddell | debsign -r ubuntu@ec2-54-205-86-101.compute-1.amazonaws.com:mnt/opencv/opencv_2.4.9+dfsg-1ubuntu1_source.changes | 20:26 |
| Sick_Rimmit | OK | 20:26 |
| Riddell | that'll do it | 20:26 |
| * Sick_Rimmit takes notes | 20:27 | |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: take a look in opencv_2.4.9+dfsg-1ubuntu1_source.changes to make sure it's sane | 20:27 |
| Riddell | should contain three files to upload | 20:27 |
| Riddell | and be uploading with the right version number to utopic | 20:27 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Well it looks OK to me | 20:29 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: dput ubuntu opencv_2.4.9+dfsg-1ubuntu1_source.changes | 20:30 |
| Sick_Rimmit | One sec I can't see the 3 files, let me look again | 20:30 |
| genii | Crap. Disk /dev/sdc: 1000 MB, 1000341504 bytes ls -l trusty-desktop-amd64.iso ... 1078804480 | 20:31 |
| Sick_Rimmit | it shows only two files | 20:31 |
| * genii looks for a 4G one | 20:31 | |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: ooh well spotted | 20:32 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: run debuild -S -sa to make sure it includes the .orig tar | 20:32 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Yay | 20:33 |
| Sick_Rimmit | q | 20:34 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Their they are | 20:34 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Do they needed to be resigned now ? | 20:34 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: signed | 20:34 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Ah yes | 20:35 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Riddell: happy to sign | 20:36 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: I've doe it | 20:36 |
| Riddell | I've done it | 20:36 |
| soee | guys need help :/ | 20:36 |
| Sick_Rimmit | OK cool | 20:36 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: I do that remotely | 20:36 |
| Sick_Rimmit | give 2 minutes dog wants a tinkle | 20:37 |
| Sick_Rimmit | brb | 20:37 |
| Riddell | normally I'd just do it locally but because the gpg keys aren't on this server (to stop you stealing my identity) I run that remove version of debsign | 20:37 |
| soee | after latest upgrades, when i try to login i have familiar error "Could not start D-Bus. Can you call qdbus" but qt5-default is installed | 20:37 |
| soee | so it moves me back to login screen | 20:38 |
| soee | some other package is now required to make it work ? | 20:39 |
| Sick_Rimmit | OK sure.. btw Im back | 20:39 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: dput it | 20:40 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: do it do it! | 20:41 |
| Riddell | hah | 20:41 |
| Riddell | add a --unchecked | 20:41 |
| Riddell | it's because my gpg keys aren't on the server | 20:41 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: do it do it! | 20:41 |
| Riddell | hold your breath! | 20:42 |
| * Sick_Rimmit Woo Hoo | 20:42 | |
| Riddell | and breath out | 20:42 |
| Sick_Rimmit | OK so the jobs done. | 20:43 |
| Riddell | yep I think so | 20:43 |
| Riddell | well hopefully | 20:43 |
| Sick_Rimmit | I figure if I update my pbuild I will get the opencv version I need to build digikam, am I correct | 20:43 |
| Riddell | now it needs to compile on the ubuntu launchpad build servers | 20:43 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Which will happen automagically overnight yes ? | 20:43 |
| Riddell | yep, you can watch it compiling at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opencv | 20:44 |
| Sick_Rimmit | ooo | 20:44 |
| Riddell | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opencv/2.4.9+dfsg-1ubuntu1 | 20:44 |
| Riddell | now if you want to you can copy the .debs to your local machine to use them there | 20:44 |
| Riddell | or I can keep this server alive if you want to do digikam on it | 20:44 |
| Riddell | but maybe that's enough for tonight and you want to go back to watching the empire | 20:45 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Whoa look at that there's my name.. I'm now "mostly harmless" | 20:45 |
| yofel | you're now part of the sneaky ninja troupe :P | 20:46 |
| Riddell | subject: [ubuntu/utopic-proposed] opencv 2.4.9+dfsg-1ubuntu1 (Accepted) | 20:46 |
| Riddell | Thank you for your contribution to Ubuntu. | 20:46 |
| Riddell | accepted e-mail is in | 20:46 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: not sure if you get that e-mail or not? | 20:46 |
| Riddell | probably not | 20:46 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Ah let me look | 20:47 |
| Sick_Rimmit | No, no email for me | 20:47 |
| Sick_Rimmit | OK, so for me I think I now need to add this last phase to my notes, and sleep on the new data to assimilate | 20:48 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Then tomorrow, I'll go back to building digikam on my local machine, hopefully with the new debs built by the build server overnight | 20:48 |
| Sick_Rimmit | This would be my preferred plan | 20:49 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: sudo poweroff to kill the ec2 | 20:50 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Now that was alot of fun, I didn't understand all of it, but I feel I could have another crack at something like that, and probably fudge my way to a result after falling into a few man traps | 20:52 |
| Riddell | Sick_Rimmit: it's a complex package this so you've been dropped in at the deep end | 20:52 |
| Riddell | at some point it'll be worth packaging up something small and simple to do it from scratch | 20:52 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Rinse, Repeat, Observe | 20:53 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Sure, happy to keep attacking this until I get it down | 20:53 |
| soee | here is topic @ the dbus issue, but this soulution wont help as there are no any lines like that in startkde https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/+bug/1304805 | 20:54 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1304805 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "KDE desktop login failure: "Could not start d-bus. Can you call qdbus?"" [Critical,Fix released] | 20:54 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Riddell: Thank you, for spending so much of your valuable time with me, I really enjoyed it, and I learned alot | 20:55 |
| lordievader | Pff, Precise -> Trusty upgrade is slow on this VM. Its been at it for about an hour, and still 2 hours remaining. Think I'm gonna let it run over night. | 20:55 |
| Riddell | lordievader: yeah it can take a while | 20:56 |
| soee | loool :D i just hacked startkde ... | 21:04 |
| soee_ | ok to be able to login i replaced: qdbus=$qbindir/qdbus | 21:05 |
| soee_ | with hardcoded path: qdbus=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qdbus | 21:05 |
| yofel | soee_: what does 'qtpaths --binaries-dir' say for you? | 21:19 |
| soee_ | yofel: qtpaths: could not exec '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qtpaths': No such file or directory | 21:20 |
| yofel | that's bad | 21:20 |
| soee_ | thats after todays upgrades | 21:21 |
| yofel | qttools5-dev-tools: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qtpaths | 21:21 |
| yofel | lolwhat | 21:21 |
| yofel | why's that in dev tools | 21:21 |
| soee_ | do not ask me :) | 21:21 |
| yofel | :S | 21:21 |
| yofel | apachelogger: sane solution recommendation please ^ | 21:22 |
| Riddell | aah I knew there was a reason that was in there | 21:22 |
| Riddell | add it back would be the most obvious sane solution | 21:23 |
| yofel | I'll do that for now then | 21:23 |
| yofel | until harald wakes up | 21:23 |
| Riddell | thanks | 21:23 |
| Riddell | it's his birthday isn't it? he probably won't wake up | 21:23 |
| yofel | good point | 21:23 |
| yofel | well, he can fix it on monday I guess :D | 21:23 |
| to_ | Hi! | 21:24 |
| to_ | Thanks for Kubuntu! | 21:24 |
| Riddell | you're welcome to_ :) | 21:25 |
| to_ | In related news :-) in /var/log/syslog I see this message "usb_modeswitch: please report the device ID to the Linux USB developers!". I've searched in Google, but I can't find the way to report it | 21:25 |
| soee_ | yofel: so what exactly is the issue here ? | 21:26 |
| yofel | soee_: missing dep | 21:26 |
| soee_ | ah, ok | 21:26 |
| genii | Riddell: OK, trying to install onto my netbook now. Boots OK off USB so far. | 21:26 |
| * genii makes more coffee | 21:27 | |
| Riddell | groovy | 21:27 |
| genii | On the Welcome screen it still says 14.04 and not 14.04.1 , has this been changed yet? | 21:28 |
| Riddell | it won't be, it's all the same for users | 21:29 |
| genii | k | 21:29 |
| soee_ | yofel: when it fixed shall i restore default values in starkde ? | 21:33 |
| soee_ | *it is | 21:33 |
| yofel | they'll get overwritten by the update | 21:33 |
| soee_ | nice, thank you | 21:33 |
| genii | Hm, Disk Setup doesn't warn if there's already an OS on the drive. | 21:34 |
| genii | ( this netbook was dual-booting Android X86 and Kubuntu ) . I just went with defaults and nuked everything. | 21:39 |
| genii | Is libc6-dev supposed to be installed by default? | 21:46 |
| Riddell | genii: in trusty yes, I just fixed it today in utopic | 21:50 |
| Riddell | gdb at fault | 21:50 |
| genii | OK, install went fine, reboot time. | 21:50 |
| genii | All black until greeter ( no splash, etc) | 21:52 |
| genii | Plasma desktop installed but it should have picked plasma-netbook | 21:53 |
| yofel | desktop/netbook is decided on startup, what's the test system? | 21:54 |
| genii | yofel: Acer One D250 Netbook. 2G ram, 60G Vertex3 SSD | 21:55 |
| genii | No, wait, after desktop loads it is netbook interface and not desktop. Threw me off by the description in greeter which normally says which | 21:55 |
| yofel | yeah, it's the same session in the greeter | 21:56 |
| lordievader | Riddell: The upgrade Precise to Trusty took a while, but it went without issues :) | 22:04 |
| Riddell | yay! | 22:04 |
| Riddell | lordievader: please tick the box on iso.qa | 22:05 |
| genii | dmesg and syslog output all look normal, all default apps open and close fine. | 22:05 |
| lordievader | Riddell: Done ;) | 22:08 |
| Riddell | awooga | 22:08 |
| genii | The only thing in syslog which looks odd is to do with PA and dbus-daemon | 22:08 |
| Riddell | we're the only flavour to have an upgrade test, go Kubuntu! | 22:09 |
| genii | "[pulseaudio] main.c: Unable to contact D-Bus: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NotSupported: Unable to launch a dbus-daemon without a $DISPLAY for X11" | 22:11 |
| lordievader | \o/ | 22:11 |
| genii | Sound works, however. | 22:14 |
| * lordievader time to go to bed, sleep well | 22:17 | |
| genii | Riddell: Should I test hibernate/sleep ? | 22:18 |
| yofel | sleep would be nice, hibernate shouldn't be an option | 22:19 |
| genii | yofel: I had to unlock the bar to add both of them as options... Testing sleep now | 22:20 |
| yofel | I mean it shouldn't be available in kickoff | 22:20 |
| yofel | as it's disabled by default (if you do run it all it should do is lock the screen) | 22:20 |
| genii | Sleep and wakeup from sleep works fine here. | 22:21 |
| yofel | great | 22:21 |
| genii | If there's anything else you'd like tested let me know, I'll have that machine sitting here next to me until I wrap up down here ( about 2 hours) | 22:25 |
| soee_ | Dolphin does not use new qtcurve theme ? | 22:26 |
| soee_ | *plasma5 | 22:26 |
| Darkwing | Migration back to KDE and Kubuntu complete. | 22:26 |
| Darkwing | Is there a recommended path to plasma5? | 22:27 |
| Riddell | yay | 22:28 |
| Riddell | Darkwing: two, depends if you're on trusty or utopic https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Packages#Kubuntu | 22:29 |
| Darkwing | Looks like I'll jump to utopic. | 22:30 |
| Darkwing | ThinkPad X1 entering the Utopic testing. | 22:30 |
| Riddell | awooga | 22:36 |
| Darkwing | Finally getting off unity. Lol | 22:38 |
| to_ | Thanks for Kubuntu. Good bye! | 22:39 |
| soee_ | :) | 22:40 |
| Darkwing | Truly looking forward to being back. | 22:40 |
| Riddell | yay | 22:41 |
| Darkwing | Not sure if I'll leap back into docs or go a different direction though. | 22:49 |
| Darkwing | I want to do more community driven things | 22:50 |
| Riddell | plenty of areas to help with | 22:52 |
| Darkwing | I've been doing a lot of web work lately. | 22:52 |
| Darkwing | Also been doing a lot of ingress lol | 22:53 |
| Riddell | we've a new website in progress | 22:57 |
| Riddell | https://trello.com/b/3Fo1KXoN/kubuntu-promotion | 22:58 |
| Riddell | http://test.kubuntu.co.uk/ | 22:58 |
| Darkwing | I shall take a look. Making the leap to Plasma5 | 23:03 |
| genii | The new site looks good. | 23:06 |
| Darkwing | Sddm or lightdm? | 23:06 |
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