[00:01] <achiang> jjohansen: sarnold ^^ ??
[00:01] <achiang> mhall119: ha! but you have to get my second line in there too ;)
[00:01] <jjohansen> achiang: you can see them in the kernel dmesg, or in /var/log/syslog
[00:02] <achiang> jjohansen: ok, grep -i deny|deni in syslog shows nothing
[00:02] <achiang> (i mean, with proper grep syntax... i did 2 greps)
[00:03] <jjohansen> well at least you can be fairly confident that apparmor isn't one of your problems
[00:04] <mhall119> achiang: done
[00:04] <achiang> yep
[00:05] <achiang> mhall119: ;)
[00:45] <kenvandine> jgdx, thx!
[05:45] <desired> Hi all!
[05:47] <desired> may I successfully install ubuntu touch on htc desire sv?
[05:51] <Kentrei> hello?
[05:53] <Kentrei> hello?
[07:08] <dholbach> good morning
[07:12] <mvo> hey dholbach! welcome back
[07:13] <dholbach> hey mvo
[07:13] <dholbach> mvo, how's life over there?
[07:13] <mvo> dholbach: good, a bit warm but otherwise great
[07:13] <dholbach> mvo, haha, yeah, I can imagine :)
[08:09] <mardy> tvoss: it seems that the package for libdbus-cpp-dev is missing a dependency on libdbus-1-dev
[08:10] <tvoss> mardy, hmmm ... let me see
[08:10] <mardy> tvoss: because without it I get build errors (/usr/include/core/dbus/argument_type.h:25:23: fatal error: dbus/dbus.h: No such file or directory)
[08:10] <tvoss> mardy, yup, patching
[08:11] <tvoss> mardy thanks
[08:11] <mardy> tvoss: do you need a bug filed?
[08:11] <tvoss> mardy, nope, thanks
[08:11] <mardy> tvoss: excellent, thanks
[08:49] <Chipaca> anybody got any hints as to what “unable to switch security profile: No such file or directory” when trying to launch a helper means?
[08:49] <Chipaca> it's a new one :-/
[09:29] <tvoss> mardy, hey there. So how do I tell qmake to select a specific compiler version, ideally by setting env variables?
[09:29] <tvoss> mardy, also, how can I tell qmake to not tell me g++ {args} in the build logs but the actual compiler being used?
[09:34] <mardy> tvoss: I never did that, but it could be that invoking it as "qmake QMAKE_CXX=my-compiler" should do the trick
[09:34] <mardy> tvoss: as for how to log it, I've no idea; maybe if you override it as above it will show "my-compiler" instead of g++?
[09:56] <greyback> tvoss: qmake a bit strange, doesn't use that QMAKE_CXX for linking. To do that you need to set QMAKE_LINK & QMAKE_LINK_SHLIB too
[09:57] <brendand> jgdx, hey
[09:57] <jgdx> brendand, hey
[09:59] <brendand> jgdx, is your branch all up-to-date with the test fixes now?
[09:59] <jgdx> brendand, yup, pushed the Eventually improvements just now
[09:59] <brendand> jgdx, do you have pre-built debs which are up-to-date as well?
[10:01] <jgdx> brendand, no, but give me 20 mins
[10:09] <mardy> tvoss: in the trust-store's Request structure, what is in the "from" field? Is it the apparmor profile of the client?
[10:09] <tvoss> mardy, yup
[10:09] <tvoss> mardy, in general: the application id, which is usually filled in from the app-armor profile
[10:11] <mardy> tvoss: cool. Do you know if there is an API somewhere to get from the application ID to the desktop file? (I know it's fairly easy, but I'd like to avoid duplicating code if such API already exists)
[10:11] <tvoss> mardy, not sure, best to ask saviq
[10:11] <tvoss> mardy, what do you need the .desktop file for?
[10:11] <mardy> Saviq: ^ :-)
[10:11] <mardy> tvoss: pretty name and icon
[10:17] <Chipaca> my phone now won't boot :-/
[10:17] <Chipaca> tried both devel and devel-proposed
[10:17] <Chipaca> I get adb, can shell in, but it doesn't actually boot -- it just sits there showing "Google"
[10:18] <Chipaca> mardy: the .desktop file is, for click, the versioned app id + ".desktop". AFAIK there isn't an api.
[10:22]  * Chipaca tries "recovery"
[10:23] <jgdx> brendand, might take a while, I got a hash sum mismatch
[10:24] <Chipaca> that didn't work :-(
[10:25] <brendand> jgdx, ok. i think your tests mostly look good. i'd avoid just checking for the length of lists and actually match the content with what's expected, if you can
[10:27] <Chipaca> how do I “check my partitions on the device”? got this on reflashing: 2014/07/23 11:26:26 Cache formatting was not successful, flashing may fail, check your partitions on devic
[10:27] <jgdx> brendand, right, I forgot to look at that. Will now
[11:29] <pstolowski> jdstrand, ping
[11:37] <Chipaca> does setting the image to writeable turn off adb? that's three times it's booted after making it writeable and no adb comes up
[11:37] <Chipaca> no device on 'adb devices' i mean
[11:38] <Chipaca> and the fourth worked
[11:48] <Chipaca> jdstrand: ping, about "unable to switch security profile"
[12:51] <jdstrand> Chipaca: hey. where are you seeing that?
[12:54] <jdstrand> Chipaca: also on booting the device, does 'top' in adb shell show that apparmor_parser is working?
[13:02] <dholbach> mvo, are you still working on https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/click-reviewers-tools/check-libs/+merge/225166?
[13:04] <mvo> dholbach: sort of, I created a branch for click that is pending the a code review. the idea is to generate the list of availalbe libs on click chroot generation, then we don't need to carry it in this branch. but the remainder of the branch is still good I think
[13:04] <mvo> dholbach: maybe jdstrand might be interessted to take a first peak at https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/click-reviewers-tools/check-libs/+merge/225166
[13:05] <mvo> dholbach: I also plan to reuse this code to pull in libs in click chroot build :)
[13:08] <mvo> dholbach: fwiw, https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/click/generate-framework-initial.libs/+merge/225810 is the part that just collect the initial libs
[13:09] <mardy> tvoss: when I call the query() method on the trust-store, I get a runtime exception "Missing executor, cannot run"; what am I doing wrong?
[13:10] <tvoss> mardy, let me check, can you share your code somewhere?
[13:12] <tvoss> mardy, did you obtain the store instance by calling resolve_store_in_session_with_name
[13:12] <tvoss> ?
[13:14] <mardy> tvoss: yes, let me push the code somewhere
[13:14] <tvoss> mardy, ack and thx
[13:14] <jdstrand> mvo: I've added it to my todo
[13:16] <mardy> tvoss: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mardy/ubuntu-system-settings/other-app-access/revision/817 (see trust-store-model.cpp, line 109)
[13:36] <Chipaca> jdstrand: I think it's down to versioned vs unversioned app ids for the helpers
[13:36] <Chipaca> need to track down where we broke that
[13:36] <jdstrand> ah
[13:36] <jdstrand> so the apparmor policy will be the full APP_ID
[13:37] <Chipaca> yes
[13:37] <jdstrand> if you try to change profile to a subset of the APP_ID, it won't match what is loaded in the kernel
[13:47] <derek-g> I want Ubuntu phone. srsly people - speed it up.
[13:47] <tvoss> derek-g, thanks for the motivational words ;)
[13:49] <derek-g> tvoss, What do we want? Ubuntu phone! When do we want it? NOW!
[13:51] <Atque> Hiya.
[13:51] <rpadovani> bzoltan, o/ Do you have an ETA on bottom edge component in SDK?
[13:52] <Atque> Is there any phones for sale with Ubuntu Touch installed yet?
[13:53] <derek-g> Atque, I know - right?
[13:54] <Atque> derek-g: You think you recognise me?
[13:54] <bzoltan> rpadovani: shame, but no
[13:54] <derek-g> Atque, no. I don't know u bro. But I'm also waiting for Ubuntu phone to come out.
[13:54] <Atque> derek-g: Oh, yeah, fair enough.
[13:55] <Atque> derek-g: Yeah, seems promising... I am hoping it support the GNU userland fairly well.
[13:55] <rpadovani> bzoltan, so, I have to suppose that it will after RTM?
[13:55] <genii> Atque: The Meizu MX3 can be found for purchase but it's not yet in general circulation
[13:55] <bzoltan> rpadovani: yes
[13:55] <rpadovani> bzoltan, gotcha, thanks :-)
[13:56] <Atque> genii: Does it have Ubuntu Touch on it off the shelf?
[13:56] <bzoltan> rpadovani:  please ask on 4th of August agan
[13:56] <rpadovani> akc
[13:56] <rpadovani> *ack
[13:56] <Atque> genii: It seems to say "Flyme OS 3.0"
[13:57] <derek-g> genii, do u mean - with Ubuntu preinstalled?
[13:59] <genii> Atque: The Flyme OS is Android with tweaks from them
[13:59] <genii> AFAIK none are shipping yet with Ubuntu pre-installed.
[14:00] <derek-g> genii, NO!
[14:00] <derek-g> genii, andoid won't do
[14:00] <MacSlow> jdstrand, ping
[14:00] <sergiusens> davmor2: did you have any luck with mms?
[14:00] <MacSlow> jdstrand, sorry I didn't get back to you yesterday... team-dinner got "inbetween" :)
[14:00] <jdstrand> MacSlow: hey-- I don't have it yet. there was a problem with the query and I had to start over (it takes hours)
[14:01] <MacSlow> jdstrand, ah ok
[14:01] <jdstrand> MacSlow: I'll let you know when I have it
[14:01] <derek-g> so - they say by the en of the year. That doesn't mean December 29-th'ish?
[14:01] <MacSlow> jdstrand, in any case... should I not be online when it finishes, an eMail will do to
[14:01] <MacSlow> jdstrand, thanks again!
[14:02] <davmor2> sergiusens: sent a message from my wifes phone last night received it twice in quick succession not re-recieved it again yet
[14:02] <mardy> tvoss: did you have time to look into the crash?
[14:04] <sergiusens> davmor2: but do you have the wire captures?
[14:05] <cwayne> jdstrand: heya, i just saw michi updated that apparmor/unity-scopes-api bug
[14:05] <genii> mhall119: Any idea when Meizu may be shipping?
[14:09] <davmor2> sergiusens: pass
[14:09] <sergiusens> davmor2: heh, but I can't help you without that :-)
[14:10] <pstolowski> jdstrand, ping
[14:13] <brejoc> hi! i've seen that work for the push notification system has already been started. is there some kind of blueprint available to get the bigger picture?
[14:14] <tomtiger11> Why does #ubuntu-tv redirect here? Canonical dropped that too?
[14:20] <ogra_> tomtiger11, ubuntu-tv is suspended until ubuntu-touch is done/ready ... then ubuntu-tv will be resumed one day and be *based* on ubuntu-touch
[14:21] <robjh> thats bad. i dont like fingerprints on my tv :S
[14:21] <ogra_> haha
[14:22] <ogra_> robjh, ubuntu-touch will also be the base for the next desktop ... (in fact it will be the base of all graphical ubuntu in the future)
[14:23] <ogra_> having the fingerprints on the desktop will surely get you used to have them on your tv too
[14:23] <robjh> D:
[14:23] <robjh> time to switch to another disto. i wonder if theres one called "distance"
[14:24] <ogra_> heh, what scares you ?
[14:24] <robjh> im kidding ^^;
[14:25] <ogra_> :)
[14:39] <jdstrand> MacSlow: np
[14:39] <jdstrand> pstolowski: hey
[14:40] <pstolowski> jdstrand, hi! any idea what that may be? https://bugs.launchpad.net/mediascanner/+bug/1347609
[14:41] <pstolowski> jdstrand, any recent changes that could affect that? i've seen it every time after flashing in the last couple of days, including --wipe
[14:41] <jdstrand> pstolowski: fsuid=32011 ouid=0
[14:41] <jdstrand> pstolowski: you need to chown the files to the phablet user
[14:41] <jdstrand> pstolowski: they are currently owned by root
[14:41] <pstolowski> jdstrand, oh my...
[14:41] <pstolowski> jdstrand, makes sense... i ad push'ed them
[14:42] <pstolowski> jdstrand, thanks!
[14:42] <jdstrand> np
[14:43] <jdstrand> when adb is set as the phablet user, that should help people a lot with this (it comes up from time to time)
[14:47] <barry> i seem to be unable to flash my device.  i had restored android and probably did something stupid (i "encrypted the device").  now every time i try to `ubuntu-device-flash --channel=ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed --bootstrap` it goes through the whole process, but after the reboot, android is still running not ubuntu.  how can i put ubuntu on the device... or am i screwed?
[14:49] <barry> hmm, maybe factory reset...
[14:51] <dobey> barry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJWJE0x7T4Q
[14:52] <dobey> in case factory reset doesn't owrk ;)
[14:53] <barry> dobey: haha!
[14:56]  * barry sees a spinnibuntu
[14:59] <jgdx> anybody know what this means? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7842378/
[15:03] <jgdx> I get it when a qml app tries to create a GSettings object for the touch.system-settings schema.
[15:04] <barry> \o/
[15:04] <jgdx> dobey, ^ have you seen that before?
[15:06] <dobey> i have not
[15:11] <jgdx> it went away by reinstalling the schema from via apt
[16:10] <kenvandine> seb128, can you look at https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/content-hub/api_v1/+merge/227948
[16:13] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, seb128: settings in silo 4 is good to publish, just waiting for silo 8 to land
[16:14] <pmcgowan> cool
[16:15] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, can you test my call forwarding branch?  seb128 approved it but didn't have sim to test and wanted a test before top approving
[16:17] <pmcgowan> kenvandine, sure, got a deb?
[16:17] <kenvandine> https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-system-settings/call_forwarding/+merge/227761
[16:17] <kenvandine> grab the output.zip
[16:31] <seb128> kenvandine, https://wiki.debian.org/PackageTransition the R,B should be versionned there
[16:32] <seb128> kenvandine, +1 then
[16:34] <seb128> kenvandine, I'm calling it a day, feel free to approve it once you change the version thing
[16:45] <Transfusion> hi, I'm following the porting guide and I've reached the Build point; however as I've suspected it errors out with *** Can't find default configuration "arch/arm/configs/aries_defconfig"! because the target is AOSP but the defconfig is suppoesd to be cyanogen_aries_defconfig
[16:46] <Transfusion> is trying to build part of AOSP with the CM kernel a good idea
[16:48] <pmcgowan> kenvandine, tested, works, commented in the MP
[16:49] <Transfusion> oh well, ln -s ed it, let's see how the build goes
[16:55] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, thx
[16:58] <alecu> tvoss: hi! In the click scope I need to get some timestamps from a json service, in ISO8601 format; and afterwards I need to show those as strings formatted for the user's locale. Do you have any recommendations on which library to use to hold timestamps in C++11?
[16:59] <alecu> the options I'm considering are boost or Qt; else, using plain C strftime
[17:04] <alecu> I mean strptime, and then strftime
[17:24] <rickspencer3> mhall119, shall I follow the lead on reddit and change my job title to "Random Guy"?
[17:25] <dobey> anyone know anything about PageStack? like if its immediate parent is not a MainView, does it still result in the header and toolbar being updated, in the app, or does it only do that if MainView is the immediate parent?
[17:29] <mhall119> rickspencer3: I think "neverhearofhim" might be more specific :)
[17:29] <mhall119> it seems you have to play guitar or go into space for people to know who you are these days
[17:30] <mhall119> if you can play space guitar, everybody will know you
[17:31] <dobey> not space goat?
[17:31] <sarnold> david bowie? :)
[17:31] <mhall119> dobey: don't play with space goats
[17:33] <cwayne> are there space goats in goat simulator
[17:33] <dobey> tell that to popey : http://goatsimulator.gamepedia.com/Space_Goat
[17:33] <dobey> haha
[17:33] <dobey> cwayne: yes, yes there are.
[17:33] <cwayne> great, now i have to buy it
[17:34] <dobey> hah
[17:35] <dobey> hmm
[17:36] <dobey> is it possible to do string formatting in qml?
[17:36] <mhall119> dobey: http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.10/QtQml.String/
[17:36] <dobey> like ("<a href='https://foo'>%s</a>", _("Le foo"))
[17:37] <dobey> ah ok
[17:37] <dobey> thanks
[17:38] <mhall119> np
[17:41] <dobey> mhall119: do you know if it's possible to connect to a signal to know when the back "<" is clicked in the new header?
[17:43] <mhall119> dobey: if it's from a PageStack you can use onCurrentPageChanged
[17:45] <dobey> mhall119: it's from inside a Loader inside a Flickable, inside a qml file that is loaded and embedded in online-accounts-ui :-/
[17:46] <dobey> online-accounts creates a new empty account when it loads our plugin, but for some reason it's not deleting that account when back is pressed. we were working around this by connecting up to the back button in the old toolbar, but the switch to new headers broke that :-/
[17:48] <mhall119> dobey: that seems like the wrong approach, you should be responding to the screen with the account losing focus or visibility
[17:49] <mhall119> but, this sounds more like a question for Kaleo, he understands that stuff better than I do
[17:49] <dobey> well really, i shouldn't be doing anything. online-accounts-ui should do it
[17:49] <dobey> should delete the account it created, that is
[17:49] <dobey> i'm not sure why it's sticking around actually
[17:49] <dobey> i just know how it was worked around before, and noticed that the new header switch broke that
[17:51] <dobey> oh joy. and it lokos like all the other plug-ins just exit/crash when i try to add any accounts ohter than u1, on my n4 :)
[17:58] <awe_> sergiusens, was a thumbnail in the message-indicator ( or snap decision ) ever discussed?  If I send a MMS w/out text, the notification and message indicator just show an the caller-id
[17:58] <awe_> well...the message-indicator also shows the time/date
[17:59] <dobey> where the heck does stderr/stdout of system-settings and online-accounts-ui go on the phone?
[18:00] <awe_> sergiusens, fyi I re-closed the nuntium & messaging-app tasks for the AT&T bug, couldn't reproduce...
[18:01] <ahayzen_> dobey,  ~/.cache/upstart/application-legacy-ubuntu-system-settings-.log ?
[18:05] <dobey> ahayzen_: thanks
[18:08] <sergiusens> awe_: that's a salem_ question; I don't have the designs; I just get the requests that he needs to get them done.
[18:10] <salem_> awe_, we discussed that with designers already. it is in our todo list.
[18:11] <salem_> awe_, but we dont have support for thumbnails in notifications or messaging-menu, so we will describe with a short text what was received in the mms.
[18:17] <awe_> salem_, ok thanks!
[18:21] <dobey> bah. QT_NO_DEBUG. no wonder i am not getting any log messages :(
[18:22] <dobey> which is also kind of weird, considering i do see a single qDebug() message getting printed. but none of the others i expected :-/
[18:49] <acleansheet> Does anyone know when all apps will be downloadable on Ubuntu phone?
[18:54] <awe_> sergiusens, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/powerd/+bug/1347856
[18:55] <awe_> sergiusens, powerd listens for IncomingMessage/ImmediateMessage signals
[18:55] <awe_> which aren't generated for MMS messages
[18:56] <awe_> is there a nuntium interface and appropriate signal for powerd to monitor for MMS messages?
[19:17] <sergiusens> awe_: a dbus signal or such?
[19:19] <sergiusens> awe_: MessageAdded could be a good candidate; that's what telepathy ofono tracks. Not sure it would be too early though
[19:20] <sergiusens> awe_: why don't we just track notification bubles? should solve a potential issue for any of the cases
[19:29] <awe_> sergiusens, sure...notifications seem reasonable to me, although I don't know much about the API
[19:36] <sergiusens> awe_: I think rsalveti recalls his days with notify-osd, he can help
[19:36] <sergiusens> but it's most likely a method_call and not a signal
[19:36] <sergiusens> would need to check that
[19:37] <awe_> sergiusens, I just created the bug.  Will discuss tomorrow during the stand-up
[19:37] <awe_> I have other things I need to clear from my plate
[19:38] <rsalveti> we don't want the system to be up for any notification necessarily
[19:38] <rsalveti> also, that's on power basically to keep the device awake
[19:38] <sergiusens> rsalveti: why not?
[19:39] <rsalveti> and not to wake up the device, that's done by kernel/rild via a short wakelock
[19:39] <sergiusens> rsalveti: if it can do things in the background (system service), and wants to osd something; it certainly should be allowed
[19:39] <rsalveti> we first need to see if in this case the system is indeed going up once a new message is in
[19:39] <rsalveti> sergiusens: we don't want anyone to control or access that
[19:40] <rsalveti> afaik
[19:40] <rsalveti> otherwise you could change it to always request a suspend blocker
[19:40] <sergiusens> rsalveti: well I'm not saying access; just have powerd track notify-osd
[19:40] <rsalveti> but knowing the amount of issues we had with notify-osd itself, I'd not add anything in there
[19:40] <sergiusens> :-)
[19:40] <rsalveti> powerd shouldn't track these services
[19:41] <rsalveti> power should only track services that are responsible for bringing up the device from suspend
[19:41] <sergiusens> rsalveti: I'm not in the internals; not sure it should track nuntium either; ofono surely knows when it gets a push, as it shoves it to nuntium
[19:41] <rsalveti> when that's not the case, the app should request a suspend blocker
[19:42] <rsalveti> wonder why ofono is not sending any signal in this case
[19:43] <rsalveti> is it sending any signal on incoming mms?
[19:43] <sergiusens> rsalveti: it's not a signal, it's a method_call
[19:43] <rsalveti> or just sending stuff directly to nuntium?
[19:43] <sergiusens> rsalveti: that's why I mentioned the ofono/mms stuff is convoluted
[19:44] <sergiusens> rsalveti: when nuntium launches, it registers an agent against ofono and then ofono calls a service I need to create
[19:44] <sergiusens> the service, being an agent
[19:44] <rsalveti> right
[19:44] <rsalveti> so it's not sending any sort of signal
[19:44] <ChickenCutlass> sergiusens: nuntium should probably tell powerd when it gets that push
[19:45] <sergiusens> it could easily just spawn a signal and make everyones life easier
[19:45] <ChickenCutlass> via a dbus signal
[19:45] <rsalveti> a signal would be enough
[19:45] <ChickenCutlass> sorry to jump in
[19:45] <ChickenCutlass> lol
[19:45] <sergiusens> ChickenCutlass: well if powerd tracks signals; it should be MessageAdded
[19:45] <sergiusens> which is what I mentioned in the bug
[19:45] <sergiusens> :-)
[19:45] <ChickenCutlass> sergiusens: I forget what powerd already listens for
[19:46] <sergiusens> ChickenCutlass: powerd listens for IncomingMessage/ImmediateMessage signals
[19:47] <ChickenCutlass> sergiusens: so if we added MessageAdded we would be good
[19:47] <ChickenCutlass> right?
[19:47] <sergiusens> ChickenCutlass: I don't like signals as it means we can activate the screen when the osd has already been displayed though
[19:47] <ChickenCutlass> right
[19:47] <sergiusens> ChickenCutlass: yup; as good as it has been for the other things
[19:53] <mzanetti> cwayne: pushed an update to the app. hope you like it
[19:54] <cwayne> mzanetti: how many beers is this gonna cost me :P
[19:55] <mzanetti> cwayne: lets see if the update works for you first
[19:56] <mzanetti> still needs to go through the qa queue
[19:56] <mzanetti> want a click package?
[19:56] <cwayne> mzanetti: sure!
[19:56] <mzanetti> cwayne: http://notyetthere.org/data/com.ubuntu.developer.mzanetti.tagger_0.3.0_armhf.click
[19:59] <cwayne> mzanetti: ah, much better :D
[19:59] <cwayne> like, at least 2 beers worth :P
[19:59] <mzanetti> works for me :)
[20:01] <cwayne> mzanetti: but really, thank you, this is a huge help :)
[20:02] <mzanetti> no worries. happy to help out
[20:35] <balloons> mardy, ping