[02:37] <CaptainJewBacon> 	Hey guys, having some trouble at the moment on my asus g75vx with the brightness fn keys not working and secondly how can I get my keyboard backlight to be on once booted into ubuntu 14.04LTS
[08:14] <Saviq> mzanetti, those are not recent apps, but "core" apps, and yes, there's meant to be no header
[08:14] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: good catch on the tags, no idea where they came from, they are not even on Saviq's delete bad tags script
[08:15] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: its a virus
[08:15] <mzanetti> Saviq: ack. Just wanted to make sure
[08:15] <Saviq> it *is* a virus
[08:16] <mzanetti> yeah yeah...
[08:16] <mzanetti> :P
[08:39] <cimi> hi @unity
[08:39] <mzanetti> hi cimi
[08:39] <cimi> back from holidays - in reality I am still in italy :D
[08:40] <MacSlow> cimi, hey there... how was the vacation?
[08:40] <cimi> managed to miss my flight
[08:40] <MacSlow> cimi, *g*
[08:40] <cimi> was good
[08:41] <cimi> not proper holidays in exotic place but we were trying to save money this year...
[08:41] <cimi> (we stayed at my old house in Padua)
[08:42] <Saviq> ok /me needs to reinstall
[08:44] <cimi> Saviq, MacSlow I'll try to be in the office tomorrow after lunch - missed my flight yesterday and had to buy a new ticket for tomorrow
[08:44] <Saviq> cimi, k
[08:44] <cimi> such a good way to waste my money -.-
[08:44] <cimi> ok let me not think about it
[08:45] <MacSlow> cimi, well that'll teach you to be on time in the future :)
[08:45] <cimi> MacSlow, or not confuse dates?
[08:46] <cimi> ok I gave enough information, you can mock me for the rest of my life
[08:46] <cimi> happened to otto as well btw :D
[08:47] <tsdgeos> cimi: you're missing go-karting today!
[08:48] <cimi> oooooooooooooooooooooooh fu*k
[08:48] <cimi> tsdgeos, where are you guys going?
[08:48] <tsdgeos> cimi: no idea, somewhere JohnLea is bringing us to, may even be a slaghterhouse for all i know ^_^ :D
[08:50] <MacSlow> cimi, maybe you're in time for Friday-evening joining me for a test-drive in a Tesla Model S P85+... I need to show London who's boss on the streets ;)
[08:50] <MacSlow> cimi, go-kart riding will be a good training for that :)
[08:51] <mzanetti> MacSlow: carefuk: http://www.golem.de/news/tueren-geoeffnet-studenten-hacken-tesla-model-s-1407-108021.html
[08:51] <mzanetti> careful
[08:51] <MacSlow> mzanetti, hehe... I know about that
[08:51] <mzanetti> :D
[08:51] <cimi> MacSlow, read that... I have sister coming :(
[08:51] <cimi> MacSlow, oculus rift?
[08:52] <MacSlow> cimi, not yet... my order slipped the first batch of DK2's being send out by just a few days... looks more like August
[08:53] <mzanetti> aw meeen... I wanna go go-carting too
[08:53] <mzanetti> would also join the tesla ride... but the go-carting annoys me more :D
[08:53] <cimi> MacSlow, :'(
[08:53] <cimi> MacSlow, was so much looking forward to it
[08:53] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: hey, what up with this? https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/removeDuplicateCheckers/+merge/221365
[08:54] <cimi> mzanetti, we did a go karting engineering race in prague
[08:54] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: i'll disacrd it i guess
[08:54] <cimi> company one
[08:54] <cimi> I arrived second :)
[08:54] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: it's minor and we can't seem to reach an agreement :D
[08:54] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: i have https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/easier_headerless_categories/+merge/227872 for you
[08:55] <MacSlow> cimi, yeah me too
[08:55] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: ok, I'll review again if you promise not to completely change it again afterwards :P
[08:55] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: it does the same as yesterdays branch (i.e. fix the issue with empty headers and stuff) but it a much easier (codewise) way
[08:55] <cimi> CTO won but obviously because was shorter and slim
[08:55] <mzanetti> haha
[08:55] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: yeah Saviq's fault :D
[08:55] <mzanetti> pff... it *is* always him
[08:56] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: it really makes more sense this way, the old way we were making the LVPWH do two things with null section headers and it was confusing and convoluted
[08:56] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: sure, no worries...
[08:57] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: and with this one i kind of don't need a test in lvwph since there's no change in it
[08:57] <tsdgeos> which is good
[08:57] <mzanetti> yeah, seems quite simple
[08:58] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: well, nitpicking I could say you should test it in testGenericScopeView
[08:58] <mhr3> tsdgeos, https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity-scope-click/overview-icons/+merge/227731
[08:58] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: sure
[08:59] <tsdgeos> that'd be nitpicking ...
[08:59] <tsdgeos> :D
[08:59] <tsdgeos> but it'd be like testing qml height works
[08:59] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: but not sure... if you already have some mock without a header, you could just add some small check for margins == 0
[08:59] <tsdgeos> which imho is a bit overkill
[08:59] <mzanetti> yeah.. I tend to agree
[09:05] <tsdgeos> mhr3: package is broken, departmentsdb wants to install a file that collides with regular scope-click
[09:06] <mhr3> tsdgeos, crap, can you pastebin the error?
[09:06] <tsdgeos> mhr3: give me a sec
[09:07] <tsdgeos> mhr3: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7841018/
[09:08] <mhr3> tsdgeos, thx, try to just --force it, i just screwed debian and put the same file into two different pkgs
[09:10] <tsdgeos> mhr3: ok
[09:10] <tsdgeos> mhr3: need to recompile some stuff, to make sure it's all clean
[09:10] <tsdgeos> will check it works asap
[09:10] <mhr3> tsdgeos, otherwise, i pushed a fix to the branch, jenkins should build it soon... (~hour)
[09:12] <tsdgeos> mhr3: i think you forgot some files in the overview branch of scopes-shell
[09:12] <tsdgeos> doesn't build anymore
[09:12] <tsdgeos> overviewtest.cpp ?
[09:12] <mhr3> tsdgeos, :/ fixing
[09:13] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: approved. can you do this one? https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/unity8/launcher-new-count-emblem/+merge/226998
[09:13] <mhr3> tsdgeos, pushed
[09:15] <tsdgeos> mhr3: cheers
[10:03] <mzanetti> Saviq: you back?
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[10:29] <cimi> Saviq, do we have a list of UI bugs to tackle during the sprint?
[10:37] <Saviq> mzanetti, back now, fresh install, \o/
[10:37] <Saviq> such wow, much speed
[10:37] <mzanetti> Saviq: heh
[10:38] <mzanetti> Saviq: so... question: there's some code that does dash.setCurrentScope("clickscope", animate, false)
[10:38] <mzanetti> Saviq: I'm afraid we need IPC between shell and dash
[10:38] <Saviq> mzanetti, yes, we do
[10:38] <Saviq> actually let me confirm
[10:40] <facundobatista> Holas
[10:41] <trijntje> Hi all, I was wondering why the ability to interact with the top bar was removed from unity
[10:41] <trijntje> for example, you used to be able to type shutdown or the name of the wifi network in the HUD, and you would shutdown the pc or connect to the network
[10:44] <cimi> Saviq, ^^
[10:44] <cimi>  do we have a list of UI bugs to tackle during the sprint?
[10:45] <cimi> currently going around the UI and see changes during my vacation
[10:45] <cimi> and things not yet fixed
[11:05] <tsdgeos> mhr3: do you know if there's any scope returning attributes in cards already?
[11:05] <mhr3> tsdgeos, no, attrs weren't even specced fully
[11:06] <mhr3> tsdgeos, unless saying that it's an array of dicts with "value" keys is enough
[11:07] <mzanetti> Saviq: err..... how do I launch an app? (<- stupid question of the day)
[11:08] <tsdgeos> click on it!
[11:08] <mzanetti> Saviq: Qt.openUrlExternally("appid://...") doesn't seem to do
[11:08] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: ^
[11:10] <Saviq> mzanetti, any interesting error?
[11:10] <mzanetti> Saviq: I think I need to s/_/\//
[11:11] <Saviq> mzanetti, right, yup
[11:11] <mzanetti> Saviq: should I really do that in QML now?
[11:11] <Saviq> mzanetti, there's no other way for you to launch apps otherwise, so I'd say yes
[11:12] <Saviq> mzanetti, it's a simple .replace("_", "/") so...
[11:12] <mzanetti> Saviq: lol
[11:12] <mzanetti> wait till legacy apps come im
[11:12] <Saviq> mzanetti, *or*
[11:12] <mzanetti> or we fix that stuff in the lower layers?
[11:12] <Saviq> mzanetti, don't we get those from the click scope directly?
[11:12] <mzanetti> yes
[11:12] <Saviq> like uri:/// ?
[11:12] <Saviq> erm
[11:12] <Saviq> I mean in the uri role
[11:12] <mzanetti> why do we even have 5 different formats
[11:13] <mzanetti> no, its just the appid
[11:13] <mzanetti> com.foobar.app_app_0.1
[11:13] <mzanetti> or "camera-app"
[11:13] <Saviq> mzanetti, in uri? stoppid :|
[11:13]  * Saviq tries and find out why
[11:14] <mzanetti> Saviq: we have this: scope.activateApplication.connect(activateApp);
[11:15] <mzanetti> Saviq: and activateApp() is called with a param appId
[11:18] <Saviq> mzanetti, please file a bug against unity-scope-click to return proper uris
[11:19] <mzanetti> Saviq: I guess we need to land that in the same silo as the dash-as-app stuff though...
[11:26] <Saviq> mzanetti, or before
[11:26] <mzanetti> Saviq: I think that would break trunk
[11:27] <mzanetti> Saviq: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-scope-click/+bug/1347605
[11:27] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1347605 in unity-scope-click (Ubuntu) "activateApplication should give a valid url for url-dispatcher" [Undecided,New]
[11:27] <Saviq> mzanetti, not if we do it proper
[11:27] <Saviq> mzanetti, I mean yeah, we need changes in unit8y
[11:27] <Saviq> mzanetti, but those can happen before dash as app
[11:28] <mzanetti> Saviq: well, yeah, if we're adding workarounds to unpack it again
[11:28] <mzanetti> whcih I don't think makes much sense tbh
[11:29] <Saviq> mzanetti, no, we'd just need to check whether it's application:/// or appid:/// and put it through dispatcher already
[11:30] <mzanetti> ah, ok, yeah
[11:30] <mzanetti> that'd be ok
[11:30] <mzanetti> ish
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[11:41] <dandrader> tsdgeos, how can I watch a code review? (ie, get an e-mail on every change made to it). I would like to watch this one https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/88064/
[11:42] <tsdgeos> dandrader: just comment on it
[11:42] <tsdgeos> vote 0
[11:42] <tsdgeos> or add yourself to the top
[11:42] <tsdgeos> in the add reviewers
[11:42] <dandrader> ugh
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[11:53] <tsdgeos> dandrader: ¿
[11:54] <mzanetti> I guess he'd like to spy on it without people seeing his name :)
[11:54] <dandrader> tsdgeos, having to add yourself as a reviewer just to be able to watch a code review is a hack
[11:54] <tsdgeos> you really have a high bar for what you think a hack is
[11:54] <tsdgeos> it just seems natural to me
[11:55] <dandrader> mzanetti, yes. I'm a shy guy. it's ridiculous to think that I could actually review that code :)
[11:56] <mzanetti> dandrader: :D
[11:58] <mhr3> dandrader, subscribe to the MPed branch
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[11:58] <Saviq> mhr3, it's in gerrit ;)
[11:59] <mhr3> oh, qt... nvm :)
[12:08] <Saviq> cimi, you just got a doc shared with you
[12:09] <Saviq> cimi, that has tasks for the dash to do
[12:09] <Saviq> cimi, but you've some branches that need attending, too
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[12:11] <cwayne> greyback: ping, is there still a ppa that would enable shell rotation?
[12:11] <greyback> cwayne: not at the moment sorry
[12:14] <cwayne> greyback: agh, thanks
[12:14]  * cwayne was hoping it was in qtcomp
[12:14] <greyback> cwayne: no, it's a later step once we get qtcomp landed
[12:16] <greyback> ..
[12:17] <polyp> Hi there
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[12:17] <polyp> I've just had a fantastic idea for the unity launcher bar. Is this a good place to suggest it?
[12:21] <mzanetti> polyp: hmm.. I guess a bug report for ubuntu-ux would be the best place. what's the idea?
[12:22] <polyp> Basically - if yuo have a lot of apps in the launcher bar on the left it can be difficult to sift through them. My idea is to sort the icons based on how frequently they are used . Simple as that.
[12:22] <polyp> most recently used apps at the top going down in descending order
[12:23] <polyp> perhaps the option to "stick" certain ones at the top
[12:23] <polyp> Heres where you tell me this is already possible
[12:23] <mzanetti> polyp: yeah, suggest that as a bug report for ubuntu-ux
[12:24] <polyp> thanks
[12:24] <polyp> on to it now
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[12:33] <polyp> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ux/+bug/1347652
[12:33] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1347652 in Ubuntu UX "Sort Items in Launcher By Frequency Used" [Undecided,New]
[12:33] <polyp> does that look ok ?
[12:38] <mzanetti> polyp: yes, great, thanks
[12:38] <polyp> thanks
[12:39] <polyp> While I am here -
[12:39] <polyp> whats the deal with ubuntu with regards to higher resolution screens?
[12:40] <polyp> Im looking at getting a new laptop with resolution similar or higher than retina
[12:40] <polyp> I've read a lot of mixed reports on the internet
[12:58] <mterry> Saviq, I'm about to look at bug 1347183.  You said a few hours ago in the bug that you'd try to reproduce.  Any luck?
[12:58] <ubot5> bug 1347183 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "unity8 unlocker code fails sometimes" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1347183
[12:59] <Saviq> mterry, yeah, was about to write that no, worked fine for me 5 times in a row :|
[12:59] <mterry> Saviq, good and bad news  :)
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[13:00] <mterry> Saviq, well I'll give it a go.  Maybe my hardware is more racy than yours
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[13:31] <mhr3> tsdgeos, so do you want me to try the attrs branch?
[13:31] <tsdgeos> mhr3: please
[13:32] <tsdgeos> mhr3: lp:~paulliu/unity8/attribute
[13:32] <tsdgeos> mhr3: i also made the searchquery bound back
[13:32] <tsdgeos> so it should change the search text
[13:32] <mhr3> tsdgeos, it actually looked good without it :)
[13:32] <tsdgeos> :D
[13:32] <mhr3> that's why i asked if it's a feature :)
[13:33] <tsdgeos> nah
[13:36] <mhr3> tsdgeos, hm, doesn't work for some reason, not sure why
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[13:48] <greyback> mterry: should I ask mvo to look at https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/qtmir/packaging-fixes/+merge/226693 ?
[13:49] <mterry> greyback, yeah
[13:49] <greyback> okies
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[14:03] <Saviq> mterry, any luck?
[14:03]  * Saviq will tackle test_search now
[14:06] <mterry> Saviq, no not yet.  I also did about five times, but am distracted by other work.  Will try a few times more
[14:07] <Saviq> mterry, k that's fine, let me know if you need me for anything
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[14:22] <cimi> mterry, hi!
[14:22] <mterry> cimi, hello!
[14:23] <cimi> mterry, sorry was away on holidays for a bit, any update on the wizard in those weeks?
[14:24] <mterry> cimi, we landed it...
[14:24] <mterry> cimi, we got a slight mockup change I believe I forwarded to you
[14:24] <mterry> cimi, I did some of its changes (mostly wording)
[14:24] <mterry> cimi, but it might affect your location page branch, which is still waiting
[14:25] <cimi> ok
[14:25] <cimi> gonna do it now
[14:31] <Saviq> dednick, standup
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[14:45] <mterry> Saviq, I was able to reproduce *a* failure, not the exact same text though.  But I do see a USC crash file, which might just be the source of the problem
[14:45] <mterry> Saviq, (this is for the unlock-device issue)
[14:46] <Saviq> mterry, yeah, sounds about right
[14:46] <Saviq> mterry, mir folks were looking into the crash I reported yesterday
[14:46] <Saviq> mterry, wonder if it's the same
[14:46] <Saviq> bug #1346819
[14:46] <ubot5> bug 1346819 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Unity8 non-upstart tests fight for hardware with unity-system-compositor" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1346819
[14:46] <mterry> Saviq, can you link me to that bug?  I can compare crashes
[14:47] <mterry> Saviq, too fast!  :)
[14:49] <mterry> Saviq, hrm...  unlock-device goes through upstart
[14:53] <Saviq> mterry, actually I filed a proper crash
[14:53] <Saviq> mterry, bug #1347053
[14:53] <ubot5> bug 1347053 in mir (Ubuntu) "unity-system-compositor-spinner crashed with a fatal exception in MirSocketRpcChannel::send_message()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1347053
[14:56] <Saviq> tsdgeos, https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/unity8/fix-autopilot-x11/+merge/227720
[15:01] <mterry> Saviq, I forget how to make a bug out of a crash file like that.  All I can get apport to do is upload the crash file to errors.u.c...
[15:02] <Saviq> mterry, edit /etc/apport/crashdb.conf
[15:02] <Saviq> mterry, but it should be the default for dev releases?
[15:05] <mterry> Saviq, uh... maybe I'm just confused by apport-cli.  Though now it won't let me upload because I need to be up-to-date.  Grr
[15:10] <Night-hacks> In launch bar i open new nautilus window using Files icon, when i click on it again it opens another one ? why it doesn't show the first Nautilus window ever ?
[15:12] <Night-hacks> I'm on ubuntu 14.04
[15:22] <tedg> mzanetti, So I was looking at the "dash-as-app" branch. Do you guys plan to start launching the dash with UAL?
[15:24] <Saviq> tedg, probably not, it needs to respawn and all
[15:24] <Saviq> tedg, OTOH maybe we could? we should probably talk to you how to do it best
[15:25] <tedg> Saviq, I think probably a standard Upstart job is best, it's not *really* an application in the traditional sense.
[15:25] <Saviq> tedg, I agree
[15:25] <tedg> But I was more curious how I could get its PID.
[15:25] <tedg> In that sense, I already have a function in UAL for it :-)
[15:26]  * tedg was being lazy
[15:26] <Saviq> tedg, so yeah, you'll probably end up with `initctl status unity8-dash` or so
[15:26] <tedg> K, gonna make me write code. I see how it is.
[15:26] <tedg> :-)
[15:30] <mzanetti> ok... upstart job it is
[15:31] <Saviq> mzanetti, were you thinking anything else?
[15:32]  * Saviq *could* be fine with UAL, if we could make it respawn...
[15:32] <mzanetti> Saviq: not really. just wasn't entirely sure yet and wanted to have another with you about it
[15:32] <Saviq> beer?
[15:32] <mzanetti> beer?
[15:33] <mzanetti> Saviq: launching with UAL wouldn't require us to do changes in qtmir
[15:33] <Saviq> mzanetti, "another..."
[15:33] <mzanetti> but yeah, no idea about the respawning
[15:33] <Saviq> mzanetti, yeah, that's why I'd like it there
[15:33] <Saviq> but as tedg rightly pointed out, it's probably an abuse of UAL
[15:33] <mzanetti> hmm... is it? but anyways... I'm fine either way.
[15:34] <mzanetti> Saviq: oh, now I get it... another chat
[15:34] <Saviq> ;)
[15:34] <mzanetti> :)
[15:35]  * Saviq lost a beer :|
[15:36] <mzanetti> Saviq: you're not allowed to drink anyways before driving a go cart
[15:36] <cimi> hah
[15:37] <Saviq> mzanetti, didn't mean *now*
[15:37] <mzanetti> we'll have another beer too :)
[15:38] <mhr3> tsdgeos, attrs still don't show up :(
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[15:39] <tsdgeos> mhr3: ouch :/ they work here in tests
[15:39] <tsdgeos> let me drop by
[15:39] <mhr3> tsdgeos, although no errors now
[15:40] <tsdgeos> mhr3: where are you? :D
[15:40] <mhr3> go towards jane :)
[15:44] <cimi> Saviq, on the infographics branch, you asked me to test that next was called on the model
[15:44] <cimi> Saviq, but next is a function, so how can I test it?
[15:46] <Saviq> cimi, make it a signal, or emit a signal from the function, and spy on it in the test
[15:51] <mzanetti> Saviq: you said you'd clarify things about the shell<->dash IPC. Any outcome?
[15:52] <mzanetti> should I just create plugin that communicates through D-Bus?
[15:54] <mzanetti> Saviq: so far we have two things broken: goToScope() and I resetSearch(). IIRC you said resetSearch() isn't wanted any more anyways. But I guess we still want the gotToScope("clickscope")
[15:59] <tsdgeos> mhr3: i think we know what's happening
[15:59] <tsdgeos> it's again white text on white text
[15:59] <tsdgeos> i mean white background
[15:59] <tsdgeos> paul is working on a fix
[16:01]  * mhr3 checks
[16:02] <cimi> Saviq, we lost the silo for infographics
[16:02] <cimi> Saviq, I need it to test the mock...
[16:02] <Saviq> cimi, we did indeed, build locally for now
[16:04] <mhr3> tsdgeos, yep, you're right
[16:04] <mhr3> white text
[16:06] <tsdgeos> mhr3: easy fix then :)
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[16:09] <tsdgeos> mhr3: should be pushed says Paul
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[16:26] <mzanetti> tedg: hey, I've pushed some upstart changes. Have the dash starting automagically and respawning here now.
[16:27] <mzanetti> initctl status unity8-dash
[16:27] <mzanetti> unity8-dash start/running, process 3086
[16:30] <tedg> mzanetti, Cool, thanks!
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[17:09] <cimi> Saviq, built and tested infographics as requested
[17:09] <cimi> guys enjoy your go karting
[17:10] <cimi> see you tomorrow
[17:37] <facundobatista> do you know if there's a way to install r147 in the emulator? it's not working with r148 :/
[17:46] <dandrader> mterry, hey
[17:46] <mterry> dandrader, hello
[17:48] <dandrader> mterry, if I wanna check is the greeter is fully shown (i.e. covering the entire screen): should I use "greeterWrapper.showProgress == 1.0" or "greeter.showProgress == 1.0"?
[17:48] <dandrader> *if the greeter
[17:48] <dandrader> mterry, in Shell.qml
[17:49] <mterry> dandrader, greeterWrapper
[17:49] <dandrader> mterry, ok. Tests in tst_Shell.qml still use greeter.showProgress. Is that ok?
[17:50] <mterry> dandrader, yeah that's fine for test purposes
[17:51] <mterry> dandrader, they only differ if you are making a left-edge swipe right that pulls out the launcher
[17:51] <dandrader> mterry, ok
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[19:22] <josharenson> kgunn, I'm not sure exactly what you had in mind for the QSG perf explanation, but its getting kinda white-papery
[19:23] <josharenson> hope thats alright... should have something rough by Friday, but will likely need peer review
[19:23] <kgunn_> josharenson: got a link ? are you ready for an external skim?
[19:23] <josharenson> kgunn_ not yet.... give me till EOD
[19:24] <josharenson> have some handwritten things etc..
[19:25] <kgunn_> josharenson: sure...
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