[16:25] <paultag> thafreak: you should buy pudding.ninja
[18:52] <thafreak> ha
[18:52] <thafreak> no, it's just temporary
[18:52] <thafreak> got tired of master of science
[18:52] <thafreak> seemed pretenious
[18:53] <thafreak> like signing my name with M.S. at the end
[18:53] <thafreak> I wanted
[18:53] <thafreak> Quantum Pudding Analyst
[18:53] <thafreak> but that is apparently too long for twitter
[18:53] <thafreak> and it cut it down to Quantum Pudding Anal
[18:53] <thafreak> which I'm pretty sure would have been taken the wrong way
[18:55] <thafreak> so, if I want to experiment with systemd....
[18:56] <thafreak> what do I install? debian sid?
[18:56] <thafreak> testing?
[18:56] <thafreak> is ubuntu 14.10 even on systemd by default?
[18:57] <Unit193> Not by default, but optional.
[18:57] <Unit193> (I'm using it in 14.04 FWIW. :P )
[18:57] <thafreak> is anything in the deb family systemd by default? Like how it will be eventually
[18:57] <thafreak> or do I need to stick with the centos/fedora crap, erm stuff?
[18:58] <Unit193> OOTB?  Not other than Siduction that I know of, but in Debian you just install systemd-sysv, and in utopic you just add an init= boot option.
[18:59] <thafreak> what's the plan? Is it going to be default in jessie or jessie+1?
[19:01] <Unit193> It's getting harder to not use it now, but I had thought it was +1 but of course I could be wrong.
[19:02] <thafreak> well, I'm all about embracing the future aparently...why not
[19:02] <thafreak> better learn it now and not have to play catch up
[19:03] <thafreak> I'm also going to set up ipv6 and a tunnel...why not
[19:03] <Unit193> systemd is nice as init, not cool as the system. :P
[19:03] <Unit193> Ah, cool.  TWC here, so likely won't get native soon either.
[19:03] <thafreak> yeah, I was thinking it was kind of anti-unix philosophy
[19:04] <thafreak> but you know, after I thought about it, the init doesn't really need to play by unix philosophy
[19:04] <thafreak> and sysvinit didn't really either, except for the whole, do one thing only part
[19:04] <thafreak> so why not just accept the future i guess...
[19:05] <thafreak> the whole journald is kind of weird to me too....maybe I just need to read more into it though