[16:25] thafreak: you should buy pudding.ninja [18:52] ha [18:52] no, it's just temporary [18:52] got tired of master of science [18:52] seemed pretenious [18:53] like signing my name with M.S. at the end [18:53] I wanted [18:53] Quantum Pudding Analyst [18:53] but that is apparently too long for twitter [18:53] and it cut it down to Quantum Pudding Anal [18:53] which I'm pretty sure would have been taken the wrong way [18:55] so, if I want to experiment with systemd.... [18:56] what do I install? debian sid? [18:56] testing? [18:56] is ubuntu 14.10 even on systemd by default? [18:57] Not by default, but optional. [18:57] (I'm using it in 14.04 FWIW. :P ) [18:57] is anything in the deb family systemd by default? Like how it will be eventually [18:57] or do I need to stick with the centos/fedora crap, erm stuff? [18:58] OOTB? Not other than Siduction that I know of, but in Debian you just install systemd-sysv, and in utopic you just add an init= boot option. [18:59] what's the plan? Is it going to be default in jessie or jessie+1? [19:01] It's getting harder to not use it now, but I had thought it was +1 but of course I could be wrong. [19:02] well, I'm all about embracing the future aparently...why not [19:02] better learn it now and not have to play catch up [19:03] I'm also going to set up ipv6 and a tunnel...why not [19:03] systemd is nice as init, not cool as the system. :P [19:03] Ah, cool. TWC here, so likely won't get native soon either. [19:03] yeah, I was thinking it was kind of anti-unix philosophy [19:04] but you know, after I thought about it, the init doesn't really need to play by unix philosophy [19:04] and sysvinit didn't really either, except for the whole, do one thing only part [19:04] so why not just accept the future i guess... [19:05] the whole journald is kind of weird to me too....maybe I just need to read more into it though