[04:47] More almal [05:01] Morning everyone [05:36] moring mazal [05:36] oh hi bduk1 [05:37] bang [05:37] ubuntu mirrors for east africa are live [05:38] * nuvolari got wounded by Symmetria's bang [05:38] if anyone has a problem with any of the .za mirrors and needs somewhere faster, the mirror in kenya might also do you well [05:38] you can use ke.archive [05:38] its probably a lot more bandwidth than za.archive [05:38] ;p [05:39] Dankie Symmetria [06:51] morning peoples [06:53] good mornings [06:53] eish! And I missed a meeting? [07:23] good morning [07:23] hi ThatGraemeGuy, inetpro, Symmetria, nuvolari, mazal [07:23] Maaz: coffee on [07:23] * Maaz puts the kettle on [07:23] hi charl [07:23] Maaz: coffee please [07:23] inetpro: Righto [07:24] :) [07:24] inetpro: long time no speak to, how's it going ? [07:25] Hi charl [07:25] hi bushtech [07:26] morning charl [07:27] Coffee's ready for charl and inetpro! [07:27] Maaz: thanks [07:27] charl: No problem [07:32] oh hi charl, inetpro [07:32] Maaz: dankie [07:32] Groot plesier inetpro my vriend [07:32] hi nuvolari [07:38] Hi Vince-0 [07:39] hi Vince-0 [07:41] haai [07:43] * inetpro been struggling to make time for ubuntu-za lately [07:43] I've added nuvolari and Vince-0 as communications managers on the g+ page [07:44] hoping that someone will find the time to post events and other relevant stuff on those pages [07:45] let me know if I need to add others who may be more active members [07:49] yay [07:55] stepping up in the world [08:06] Symmetria, how much bw available to ke.archive? [08:06] at least I see it is connected locally to IS instead of routing all the way to London and back like most African countries to ZA [08:08] tinuva: no peering in africa ? [08:08] charl, only minimal peering [08:09] and very little fibre between the countries directly [08:09] so most have capacity linked via London [08:09] bah [08:09] mostly politics, and greedy companies where govements dont block it [08:09] it is getting better though with Liquid Telecom [08:10] Symmetria: no ipv6 yet on that mirror ? [08:10] It does however look like ke.archive is connected at NapAfrica JB1 and JINX so thats good [08:11] oh and SAIX still routes via London to Kenya [08:11] no surprise there [08:11] good morning [08:12] hi magespawn [08:14] hi ThatGraemeGuy and all others [08:14] hey Kilos [08:14] whats phishing stuff [08:14] woo i get greeted by name [08:14] hi magespawn nice to see you here [08:14] suck it losers! :P [08:15] hi Kilos [08:15] sorry about the missing the meeting i had to leave the office [08:15] haha you always do man [08:15] its ok magespawn was a tiny meet anyway [08:16] clam found a heuristics phishing thing in a mail folder [08:17] so who is gonna tell me what it is [08:17] dont all answer at once [08:18] phishing is a type of email scam where the message looks like an official request from SARS or a bank, etc [08:18] there will usually be a link which is a fake page that looks like the real thing [08:19] for instance lets say they send you a thing that claims to be from ABSA "Please log in to Internet Banking to confirm your details within 7 days or your account will be suspended" [08:19] and does it do any harm to your system? [08:19] ok [08:19] then you click the link, it looks like the ABSA internet banking site, and you don't notice that the URL is not right [08:20] so you log in using all your ABSA details, and now whoever has set up the fake page has your details [08:20] hi Kilos, sorry that I missed the meeting, again [08:20] and suddenly you are broke, and your wife gets mad at you becuase how could you be so damn stupid?!?! [08:21] i didnt notice such a mail and have no bank accounts so they lose, but one of my gmail accounts has been corrupted because it keeps asking for passwords in evo [08:21] hahaha [08:21] and she runs into the kitchen in a blind rage, grabbing the 14-inch chef's knife made of real Japanese ninja steel, and stabs you repeatedly while screaming "why didn't I just stay with Billy instead of marrying you, you insufferable retard?!?!" [08:22] rofl [08:22] true story [08:22] be safe, email can kill you [08:22] wow [08:23] on a lighter note, the new mod works wonderfully [08:23] ok great [08:23] i was thinking instead of having a bunch of pads outside each place of interest, we can have a central point [08:24] teleportation station [08:24] or whatever [08:24] so for instance we have a pad at my house that goes there [08:24] and a pad at your house that goes there [08:24] i just need a giveme for a big pile of sand to rebuild a mound by the fly [08:24] and then at the station we have a lot of pads, to each point of interest [08:24] there is sand in my basement, not sure how much [08:24] that will be cool ThatGraemeGuy [08:25] all that sand i used in that lava in the mine near me came from him [08:25] i thought it was mazals place like a twit [08:26] spent an hour just making wafers and the little blue things and then some arrays [08:28] i want to get the mv up to scratch with the lv setups [08:28] i have a MV tool workshop [08:28] lv is more powerful when using same number of arrayd\ys [08:28] and i plan to make MV furnace and alloy furnace [08:29] the other stuff i'll leave on LV [08:29] no that's not right [08:29] yes i need the mv for the workshop too [08:30] its working but at 1500 watts or whatever them things read and i dunno why [08:31] but its at ooposite side of house so dunno if it done see sun as good or what [08:32] magespawn, do you need the wifi stuff to get your home settup working? [08:33] as in thats why you dont visit at night i mean [08:36] Kilos: how much do you get from an LV array? [08:36] surely not more than 1500? :-o [08:37] lv=2500 and mv 1500 [08:37] mmmm something definitely not right there [08:40] looking at the code an MV array should make 3x more than LV array [08:40] ill investigate more tonight, everything works just the power diffs rattles brain [08:40] and HV 10x more than LV [08:40] wow [08:40] my HV maxes at 5000 each so an LV should max at 500 [08:41] and your MV at 1500 makes sense since its 3x 500 [08:41] pity you can make hv run mv and lv too [08:41] i think you misread, your LV arrays are likely 500 each [08:41] i have 5 arrays on each [08:41] you can convert HV to MV and MV to LV [08:41] yeah then i think you are counting ALL your LVs as 2500 [08:42] and only 1 MV as 1500 ;) [08:42] with that converter thing? [08:42] supply convertor i think [08:42] 5 mvs as well [08:42] see wiring example in my basement [08:42] no, i mean you said your LVs are 2500 and MVs 1500 [08:42] each [08:43] oh you think only 1 mv array is working? [08:43] but i suspect you are taking all your LVs vs only 1MV [08:43] no i think you are comparing 1 MV vs the sum of all your LVs [08:43] no man 5 arrays of each [08:43] because 5 LVs at 500 each is 2500 [08:43] never mind [08:43] thats right then [08:43] ai [08:44] lol [08:44] you said previously that 1 LV makes 2500 and 1 MV makes 1500 [08:44] agree? [08:44] you are supposed to put a ! after ai as in ai! [08:44] sorry i meant one setup [08:45] not one array [08:45] [10:36:25] Kilos: how much do you get from an LV array? [08:45] [10:36:34] surely not more than 1500? :-o [08:45] [10:36:59] lv=2500 and mv 1500 [08:45] you are not comparing the same thing then [08:45] you are comparing your whole setup of 5 LVs to only 1 MV [08:46] yessir sorry for misleading you [08:46] i meant setups [08:46] you're not misleading me [08:46] [10:28:57] lv is more powerful when using same number of arrayd\ys [08:46] and my mv setup is also 5 arrays [08:46] you're confusing yourself [08:47] ai! [08:47] lemme try again [08:47] i have 2 setups of 5 arrays each [08:48] lv=5 and mv=5 [08:48] but the lv gives 2500 and the mv gives 1500 [08:48] lol [08:48] you are wrong, and you have convinced yourself of something else [08:48] yes that was the idea Kilos [08:48] so from what you say it looks like only 1 mv is working [08:49] wait [08:49] oh i see now [08:49] yeah you probably didn't wire up the other 4 [08:50] i thought i did but will investigate [08:50] i keep ripping up my roof to sort it [08:50] hehe [08:50] and falling off roof [08:51] that's why i built a fence on top of my tower [08:51] lol [08:51] too easy to fall off when you are moving around [08:51] ive actually got used to rat chops [08:52] with aromat they quite lekker [08:52] yum [08:52] i've heard that mole is very tasty marinaded in buttermilk [08:52] i have no intention of confirming this though [08:53] lol [08:54] we had lots in toti, i used to blow their tunnels up with some stuff i think was called carbon bisulphide [08:55] i think it was some stuff they used for fumigating grain [09:07] oi discounted [09:08] http://mygaming.co.za/news/news/67199-discounted-graphics-cards-and-more-in-takealot-daily-deal.html [09:08] lol them cards cost more than my whole pc [09:14] just to play games [09:14] yar [09:15] i only play one online game and my 210 seems good enough for that [09:15] minecraft clones? ya that will run [09:16] it runs on android [09:54] heh anyone here played with logstalgia? === magespawn_ is now known as magespawn [11:45] Symmetria: no, but now i kinda want to :-) [11:54] That looks cool [11:57] Vince-0, did you make note of bot commands for meetings last night [12:10] negative === SubOracle[away] is now known as SubOracle [12:20] heh [12:20] dunno if this will play [12:20] but someone try and open http://197.155.81.5:8080 in VLC [12:24] No suitable decoder module: [12:24] VLC does not support the audio or video format "undf". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this. [12:33] hrm [12:33] trying to fix it [12:44] Bye everyone , have a nice evening [13:08] Symmetria: now i kinda want logstalgia to be my wallpaper, lol [13:20] hmm... [13:20] forced reboot cause gui hung grrr [14:17] later all [14:17] toods mage [14:17] ai! [14:18] ek slaap op die hoef hier [14:18] Maaz, translate hoof to afrikaans [14:18] Kilos: I couldn't translate that: Please use Translate v2. See http://code.google.com/apis/language/translate/overview.html. [14:19] oi [14:36] Kilos: http://imgur.com/a/wxB6J [14:36] lemme see [14:37] oh is a piece missing where that plus shows at the end of the outside cable? [14:38] yeah [14:38] you don't see both images? [14:38] before and after [14:38] cool ty very much ThatGraemeGuy [14:38] you had all the arrays cabled together, but the cable that went down was only on the last one [14:38] oh yes you added it ty [14:38] what a twit hey [14:39] easy mistake to make [14:39] at first glance i was confused because it looked ok [14:39] see thats why its lekker to know someone with eyes that work [14:39] lol [14:39] lol [14:40] i thought it could feed through the thing [14:40] no its not that clever [14:40] cool ty now ill have big power there [14:40] those pads [14:41] you need some MV battery boxes though, i didn't see any [14:41] right now you can only use MV power during daylight [14:41] are they needed if one knows the points then one can just add it to the command not so? [14:41] yes, you can set your own points and use them using only commands /tpset and /tpgo [14:42] ya ill make some, i spent last 2 nights trying to figure why mv was weaker [14:42] pads are useful for sharing [14:42] make a pad to a point, set it useable by everyone [14:42] i think normally if you set something like /tpset my_house [14:42] ok im gonna change my house so middle floor is only working stuff [14:42] then only you can /tpgo my_house [14:43] yeah that's kinda what i'm doing [14:43] we can work some code out for naming points so we can share them, what you think [14:43] i must just finish the rest of my house sometime :) [14:43] naming doesn't matter [14:43] haha but the power stuff eats time [14:43] like i said it doesn't matter what you name it, only you can use it [14:43] and very frustrating [14:44] but yes if you plan to make a pad, then a useful general name is better [14:44] so "home" isn't very helpful if you're going to link it to a pad for everyone to use [14:44] no man what if i wanna go steal stuff by your house i need that command [14:44] i made some pads to start [14:44] ya home will be out [14:44] but running low on mese so i stopped for now [14:45] ive already got mine and barts but will change them [14:45] i have go take outa chests [14:45] i made some general destinations with pads [14:45] like one pad can go down at -4500 [14:46] yeah [14:46] that was my next move naming it as a point [14:46] so right now there is a travel hub [14:46] and pads leading to places [14:46] like there's one for your house [14:46] yeah lets work on that [14:46] and then from your house there's one that leads back to the hub [14:46] cool [14:47] for the -4500 one you could just place a pad at the entrance to the deep, not at the hub [14:47] but dont make them hard to find [14:47] they aren't [14:47] and they glow in the dark [14:47] i couldnt miss the rubber trees i bashed my face against them [14:47] hehe [14:48] i planted more down at the lake we stoned over [14:48] oh and down in the deep [14:48] they get massive hey [14:48] you need a ladder to chop the whole thing down [14:49] and they popup suddenly. i was doing something else there in the deep and all of a sudden they shot up in front of me [14:49] near fell off the chair here [14:50] you don't need to chop them though [14:50] like we can name homes as ks and gs and rs not g's [14:50] make a tree tap and then you click the rubber tree to extract the rubber [14:51] i meant for wood [14:51] the name of the travelpoint appears when you mouse over a pad [14:51] so it needs to be more than just "rs" [14:51] you'll see what i've done [14:51] meh, i don't need rubber tree wood [14:51] ok just dont make me type lots [14:52] oh isnt it wood as for making planks? [14:52] i plant normal trees and then use a chainsaw to gather a LOT of wood at a time [14:52] oh im thinking now of jungle trees [14:52] oh another thing [14:52] oi [14:53] i forgot [14:53] sjoe [14:54] oi oi oi [14:55] that bit of info went to the memory thats lying on a farm in rustenburg [14:56] did you find mese ThatGraemeGuy [14:56] i hope its not in locked chests [14:56] oh ya [14:56] how come desert sand dont work in recipes that say sand [14:56] is it different [14:58] because sand is not desert sand [14:58] unless the recipe specified the sand group (will have a G on it) [14:58] then either ought to work [14:58] i'm off, bbl [15:01] ok [15:01] *SIGH* [15:02] anyone bored and wanna play with getting something to work? [15:02] lol [15:02] :P try and encode something with avconv, output it to stdout and then pick it up with vlc from stdin [15:02] cause Im struggling to get that to work [15:07] 'lo [15:10] hi Squirm [15:12] HOLY CRAP [15:12] it works [15:13] http://197.155.81.50:8080 <=== open that in vlc [15:26] eish Symmetria how big is it, 10m and still going [15:26] kilos, errr [15:26] are you opening that in vlc [15:26] or in a webbrowser? [15:27] do NOT try and open it in a webbrowser, its a live stream, it will go forever [15:27] open it in VLC [15:27] oh no downloading [15:28] eish [15:28] 15m wasted [15:28] what is it about ? [15:29] heh, its a log view in an interesting format of the kenya ubuntu mirror server, seriously, check it out with vlc [15:29] im not wasting more till i know what it is [15:30] how much data is it gonne eat [15:30] vlc is for movies and music [15:31] heh, if you open it for 20 seconds, it wont eat much data :P [15:31] its a stream, close it once you've seen the first few seconds [15:32] lol [15:34] oh i can see the 15m i downloaded [15:36] is that mirror running? who is using it? [15:37] heh thats a live view of the mirror [15:37] and its the tld mirror for half of africa for ubuntu [15:37] what does canonical say about adding it [15:38] and where is the deb-delta side [15:42] its pretty but understanding it is too much for me [15:45] it caught me 20,9 MB (20 922 140 bytes) [15:46] Symmetria, you still here? [15:47] give me the info on what to tell 8ta so they can improve latency please [15:49] yeah Im here, heh, tell them to start peering :P [15:49] is that all [15:49] peering means? [15:52] peering means connecting directly to othern etworks [15:53] ok ill tell their techie [15:53] anyone in specific they should peer with [15:54] tell them to join nap africa and jinx [15:55] ok ty [15:59] maaz google jinx [15:59] Kilos: "J!NX : Clothing Inspired by Video Games & Geek Culture" http://www.jinx.com/ :: "Jinx - League of Legends Wiki - Wikia" http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Jinx :: "Jinx - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jinx :: "Jinx | League of Legends" http://gameinfo.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/game-info/champions/jinx :: "League of [15:59] Legends Music: Get Jinxed - YouTube" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nlJuwO0GDs :: "Jinx Guide … [16:00] lol they dont need clothing Symmetria [16:02] Symmetria, can you give me the right links to give them please [16:02] one cant expect them to find the right stuff [16:11] kilos, ask me tomorrow [16:11] can't really concentrate right nw [16:11] ok ty [17:08] Kilos: http://ispa.org.za/inx/jinx-information/ & http://www.napafrica.net [17:08] & good luck [17:08] hmm... [17:08] lol [17:09] ty, ill try abything. it costs me emails only [17:09] o/ [17:11] Trying to convince Telkom to start peering is a pretty futile endeavour, they have refused repeatedly for some reason. [17:11] ah [17:11] they like apartheid [17:11] rather focus your efforts on solving the issues in the middle east, you're more likely to succeed with that [17:12] lolol [17:22] heh ThatGraemeGuy does opening 197.155.81.50:8080 in vlc work for you now? [17:39] ThatGraemeGuy, you got the converter working from hv to mv and lv? [17:46] hi smile [17:47] good evening Kilos, ThatGraemeGuy, Symmetria [17:47] hi charl smile [17:48] hi all :) [17:48] im not all man im Kilos [17:48] hahaha [17:54] charl :) [17:54] wanna see something awesome? [17:54] heh open vlc [17:54] and open http://197.155.81.50:8080 [17:55] ThatGraemeGuy, having kids/family time now [17:57] checking [17:57] Symmetria: very cool ! [17:57] heh charl thats live off the logs [17:58] its HECTICALLY heavy on resources to produce that though [17:59] ah so that's realtime ? [17:59] yeah [17:59] it's like a visualisation of tail -f ? [18:00] heh, basically, Im feeling tail -f into an app that does the visualisation using opengl rendering [18:00] and then feeding that into avconf to convert the image stream into video [18:00] and then piping that into vlc to stream it [18:01] ah is that logstalgia [18:01] it looks familiar, i used it before [18:01] yeah, logstalgia isn't 2 resource heavy, its the avconv / vlc shit that kills it [18:03] yup avconv is really slow, the encoding/compression [18:03] these are quite funny: http://www.youtube.com/user/elhackerdotnet/videos [18:03] visualisation of a ddos [18:04] another one i really like is gource http://code.google.com/p/gource/ [18:04] for subversion etc [18:05] heh it took me most of the day to find a way to find a way to make that stream [18:05] i can't get gource to work with avconv [18:05] heh, it wil work in the same way I got mine to work [18:05] cause it uses the same format [18:05] lemme give you the way I did it [18:05] cool please do [18:06] pasted this to someone earlier [18:06] ssh -l blah mirror.liquidtelecom.com tail -f /var/log/apache2/ubuntu-archive.log | logstalgia -800x600 --sync --output-ppm-stream - | avconv -y -r 30 -f image2pipe -vcodec ppm -i - -vcodec wmv1 -q 20 -threads 10 -r 30 /tmp/testfile.wmv [18:06] vlc -vvv /tmp/testfile.wmv --sout '#standard{access=http,mux=ogg,dst=197.155.81.50:8080}' [18:06] heh, /tmp/testfile.wmv is a named pipe in that example though [18:06] hi [18:06] if its not a named pipe it will make you a video file [18:06] I used the named pipe though to get it into vlc [18:07] ah [18:07] very interesting [18:07] hi magespawn [18:07] i'll try it again tomorrow [18:07] sort of came in half way through there [18:07] just needs some tweaking [18:07] magespawn in vlc [18:07] open http://197.155.81.50:8080 [18:07] :) will show you what we're talking about [18:08] cool beans [18:08] thats a live visualisation of the kenyan mirror server logs [18:08] i get this Your input can't be opened: [18:08] VLC is unable to open the MRL 'http://197.155.81.5:8080'. Check the log for details. [18:09] what am i doing wrong? [18:09] .50 [18:09] not .5 [18:09] right [18:10] getting it now? [18:10] yup, what am i seeing? [18:11] the counter in the bottom right is the hit counter since I started the app [18:11] then you see urls appearing and those are what is being hit [18:11] heh, I'm tailing the log file and feeding it into that thing [18:11] and then streaming the output [18:11] looks like a fair amount of 404 [18:11] people running ANCIENT versions of ubuntu [18:11] that arent supported anymore [18:11] on any of the mirrors [18:12] ahh right, i might be one of those [18:13] looks like the old tv game tennie [18:13] tennis [18:13] hehe its kinda cool though [18:15] very, also a very useful way to visualize what is happening [18:15] yeah [18:16] heh, just need to find a better way to do the video encode so it aint so damn cpu intensive [18:27] ohi superfly [18:27] hi Kilos [18:32] it does in fact remind me a little of pong [18:42] bye :p [18:43] 'lo peeps [18:43] charl: logstalgia used to be called ApachePong at some point if i'm not mistaken [18:43] hi ThatGraemeGuy [18:44] Symmetria: working now [18:44] how long has your mirror been live? [18:52] that is the one i meant charl, could not remember the right name [19:00] that is a very cool idea for looking at web or server traffic, can it be run against any type of server? [19:01] ThatGraemeGuy: correct ! [19:12] you could use that as a live screen saver [19:13] its pretty hey [19:15] write an android app, have the request for the screen saver power the screen saver itself [19:15] a recursive program or service [19:26] oh my [19:26] tried to open dropbox and modem died [19:29] internet gone bad all of a sardine [19:50] brb [19:51] oi i need to reboot i think [19:52] right back [19:52] http://mashable.com/2013/04/26/ddos-attack-visualized/ [19:57] this video is probably the best way to explain ddos to a non-tech person [20:09] good night all [21:48] night all. sleep tight