[00:04] <orion> Hi. I updated the grub package on my server recently, and I think that the actual boot loader failed to install. I have two disks set up in a hardware RAID-1 configuration. Is there any way I can test to see if everything is kosher so that I don't have any surprises next time I boot up?
[00:04] <TJ-> orion: yes
[00:04] <orion> TJ-: What do I have to do?
[00:05] <TJ-> orion: Is it mdadm RAID1 ?
[00:06] <orion> TJ-: Yes.
[00:06] <TJ-> orion: Did you install the boot-loader with "grub-install /dev/mdX" *and* are the underlying device whole-disks (e.g. /dev/sda not /dev/sda1) ?
[00:06] <jamesbrown> how do i make  folder(project) and all the folders and sub-folders and files and subfiles. read, write and executeable
[00:07] <orion> TJ-: My root file system is /dev/md2. My disks are /dev/sda and /dev/sdb. I installed (grub-install) to sda and sdb, and that worked fine.
[00:07] <orion> installing to /dev/md2 failed.
[00:08] <TJ-> orion: And lastly, is the mdraid metadata version no higher than 1.0 ?
[00:09] <TJ-> orion: You can't install to an mdraid device that has its metadata at the start of the array, so setting "--metadata=1.0" will ensure it is at the end of the array, and therefore "grub-install /dev/mdX" will succeed
[00:10] <orion> TJ-: How do I check the version?
[00:10] <Aki-Thinkpad> Project ERROR: Unknown module(s) in QT: designercomponents-private
[00:11] <Aki-Thinkpad> I am trying to compile qt; how do I resolve this dependency error?
[00:12] <wheatthin> compile qt? OR compile in qt?
[00:12] <wheatthin> Aki-Thinkpad, cause our repo's have qt ide's
[00:13] <Aki-Thinkpad> qtcreator
[00:13] <Aki-Thinkpad> sorry
[00:13] <Aki-Thinkpad> wheatthin, and its because of... I think I need to compile a version by source so i can use the plugin creation wizard
[00:13] <Aki-Thinkpad> its bloody unclear
[00:13] <wheatthin> Aki-Thinkpad, I don't think so..
[00:14] <TJ-> orion: I think it's "--examine"
[00:14] <Aki-Thinkpad> wheatthin, well; I need to provide a qtcreator-src and a qtcreator-build directory in the wizard
[00:14] <Aki-Thinkpad> do you know where I could find it?
[00:14] <orion> TJ-: Partition[0] :   3907029167 sectors at            1 (type ee)
[00:15] <orion> MBR Magic : aa55
[00:15] <orion> This appears for both disks.
[00:15] <wheatthin> Aki-Thinkpad, http://doc.qt.digia.com/qtcreator-extending/first-plugin.html
[00:15] <TJ-> orion: Hmmm, is it "--detail" then? I don't have an md array to hand right now to check
[00:15] <wheatthin> I'm really doubting it has to be compiled from source, you just gotta install the right stuff with it
[00:15] <Aki-Thinkpad> wheatthin, yep; that is where I am at. that is what I am trying to figure out
[00:16] <TJ-> orion: You'd expect that if you manually installed grub to those devices
[00:16] <Aki-Thinkpad> jg
[00:16] <wheatthin> Aki-Thinkpad, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7839208/
[00:16] <orion> /dev/md2: Version : 0.90
[00:16] <TJ-> orion: But grub-install may have failed if the mdX array has leading metadata since grub will write to the MD device's sector 0 but that will actually be offset a way into the underlying whole-disk
[00:17] <wheatthin> I'm pretty sure you're covered Aki-Thinkpad
[00:17] <TJ-> orion: That *should* be OK than
[00:17] <orion> TJ-: I should be good with NOT installing to /dev/md2?
[00:18] <TJ-> orion: Is "/boot/" in a separate partition?
[00:18] <orion> TJ-: no.
[00:18] <Aki-Thinkpad> wheatthin, I do not follow.
[00:19] <Aki-Thinkpad> wheatthin, again; I need to provide the wizard a -src and a -build directory.
[00:19] <TJ-> orion: If any of "grub-install" or "update-grub" reported problems then core.img may not be able to find the "/boot/" partition correctly. When you install to the whole-disk underlying devices Grub doesn't know to use the mdraid modules in the core
[00:19] <Aki-Thinkpad> wheatthin, I can't move on until I do that.
[00:19] <wheatthin> Umm.. so specify them.
[00:20] <Aki-Thinkpad> wheatthin, Could you show me how? I do not know where to find these
[00:20] <orion> TJ-: grub-install succeeded for both whole disks, sda and sdb.
[00:21] <Aki-Thinkpad> wheatthin, I am using the ubuntu-sdk from the repos
[00:21] <orion> It only failed for md2 (which is the root file system, made up of sda2 and sdb2)
[00:22] <wheatthin> if it's just using the qtcreator and not having to compile it, you then need to consult your documentation for qtcreator. Even though you're using the sdk, this isn't for development .. try #ubuntu-dev
[00:22] <TJ-> orion: I meant for "grub-install /dev/mdX" ... that clues Grub in to the fact it needs to include the mdraid code in core.img, in order to find/read the 'root' device (the file-system containing "/boot/")
[00:22] <orion> I'm guessing it doesn't make sense to install to md2 anyway?
[00:22] <Aki-Thinkpad> wheatthin, :/
[00:22] <wheatthin> this is if you're having system failures, or problems which are detrimental to keeping the host alive.
[00:23] <wheatthin> not for personal projects.
[00:23] <Aki-Thinkpad> wheatthin, the documentation shows how to do it on a mac... so \o/
[00:23] <orion> TJ-: grub-install: error: will not proceed with blocklists.
[00:24] <TJ-> orion: OK... that suggests grub-install thinks the device you gave it is a file-system, not a partitioned device, is that the case?
[00:24] <TJ-> orion: Did you "mkfs.XXX /dev/md2"?
[00:25] <orion> TJ-: I did not do the installation. The datacenter did it all through their automated system.
[00:25] <wtchn_tv> hi guys my clock on the upper right corner vanished, any help?
[00:25] <orion> df -h reports that /dev/md2 is an ext4 file system, mounted as /
[00:25] <TJ-> orion: Well, just check... if you can directly mount /dev/md2 then it is a file-system, which would explain the confusion the grub is feeling
[00:26] <orion> TJ-: I'm betting it is a file system, considering the fact that it's listed in fstab
[00:26] <wtchn_tv> in 'time&date  under 'clock' tab, everything is gray and unaccesible
[00:26] <TJ-> orion: OK, so that's not a good way for them to do a boot device from Grub's perspective, so yes, you will have to manually do the "grub-install /dev/sda /dev/sdb" type thing when there's a grub update
[00:27] <orion> TJ-: Ok. Is there a way to determine ahead of time if the server will or won't boot while it's still live?
[00:28] <orion> I *really* want it to just boot properly.
[00:29] <ksefchik> Hi! I'm having a problem creating a bootable Ubuntu Live USB for a friend's PC using Unetbootin on a Mac. No matter what I do, the computer boots to the installed Gentoo partition -- this is even after verifying bios settings are set to boot in the correct order (and off the specific device).
[00:30] <ksefchik> Can anyone help me create a USB thumbdrive that will boot this computer to Ubuntu?
[00:30] <rww> ksefchik: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[00:31] <rww> Macs are a bit obnoxious about it, but those steps should work.
[00:31] <TJ-> orion: I'm concerned on this basis: If md2 is composed of whole-disks sda and sdb, and is using meta-data 0.9 that infers that mdadm will have written the metadata to the end of the array. Usually it'll step over the first sector to avoid over-writing any boot-sector, so the MBR on sda/sdb *should* be fine. ...
[00:31] <orion> TJ-: md2 is composed of sda2 and sdb2
[00:32] <TJ-> orion: ... However, there is no partition table on sda/sdb or md2, so I'm not sure where Grub can write the core.img that won't over-write the same sectors as md2 starts at
[00:32] <TJ-> orion: I thought you said it was composed of sda/sdb ?
[00:32] <orion> 20:21:07 < orion> It only failed for md2 (which is the root file system, made up of sda2 and sdb2)
[00:32] <TJ-> orion: So, sda/sdb have partition tables? In which case the core.img will be before partition #1, so that should be OK
[00:33] <orion> TJ-: They do indeed have partiion tables.
[00:33] <ksefchik> These instructions are for booting a Mac off the thumbdrive, which I am not trying to do. I am trying to install to a friend's PC using Mac to create the thumbdrive. Will these instructions still work?
[00:33] <TJ-> orion: So, the only concern left is that Grub's core.img can find the root device, which hopefully it can do by UUID, which means it can find "/boot/" at either sda2 or sdb2 :)
[00:34] <orion> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7839263/
[00:34] <TJ-> orion: Is this an EFI system?
[00:35] <orion> TJ-: No, BIOS.
[00:36] <TJ-> orion: OK, because with that disk being GPT and having a bios_grub partition it looked like it
[00:37] <orion> TJ-: My datacenter is weird. They insist on having the server partitioned/installed through their "manager".
[00:37] <TJ-> orion: You should be OK... you could do a boot test on those disks before  rebooting the host. I often do that as a precaution... start a simple QEMU VM with the whole-disks disks attached and see if it gets to the grub menu :)
[00:38] <bhag> how can i resolve apt-get update breakage Err http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid/main python2.7 armhf 2.7.3-5
[00:38] <bhag>   404  Not Found
[00:38] <bhag> Failed to fetch http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/sqlite3/libsqlite3-0_3.7.14.1-1_armhf.deb  404  Not Found
[00:38] <BrandonC> fresh install  ubuntu, restart, Disk boot failure
[00:38] <BrandonC> ...
[00:38] <orion> TJ-: That's one way to test. Is there a way to force QEMU to have read-only access to the block devices, so as not to bork the system?
[00:38] <TJ-> bhag: That's a #debian question by the look of it
[00:38] <stan_man_can> Why is ubuntu’s version of Redis so old? it installs 2.2 and they’re on 2.8
[00:38] <pikapp> how do I set the default window manager to dwm? I have tried setting .xinitrc but it is ignored it seems
[00:39] <orion> TJ-: Ok, thank you for all your help!
[00:42] <TJ-> orion: Not sure about "-drive readonly" for QEMU boot drives, but I kill the guest as soon as the kernel messages start :)
[00:43] <_2_mylove1831> hi
[00:44] <orion> TJ-: Hopefully my connection won't drop the moment I spin up the VM. ;)
[00:45] <TJ-> orion: if you want to wait a few I can find a way to do readonly here
[00:45] <orion> Nah, that's OK.
[00:45] <orion> I appreciate your time.
[00:45] <orion> Take care.
[00:46] <TJ-> orion: "sudo qemu-system-x86_64 -m 512 -drive id=test,file=/dev/sda,if=none,media=disk,index=0,readonly -device virtio-blk-pci,drive=test"
[00:46] <TJ-> Ahhh... act in haste, repent at leisure :)
[00:51] <cloudrf> oh my god
[00:52] <cloudrf>  my offtopicness is broken please send a letter to congress!
[00:56] <PCLine_> Good evening everyone.
[00:59] <cloudrf> good evening
[01:06] <zizo> hello
[01:07] <zizo> anyone here
[01:08] <compdoc> who wants to know?
[01:08] <cloudrf> me
[01:14] <driftkid> hi
[01:14] <driftkid> i just started whit blackbuntu
[01:15] <driftkid> just to watch what it is
[01:16] <Jeffrey_f> what is it with people popping in saying weird stuff and leaving   SMH
[01:16] <compdoc> is it really black?
[01:17] <TJ-> Trying to avoid bans for spam advertising
[01:19] <zizo> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[01:20] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys quick question i have a problem i deleted ~/.bash_history, and now i readded the file but no changes are made to the file
[01:20] <Psil0Cybin> and it does not save anything after a restart
[01:20] <Psil0Cybin> like it used too
[01:21] <Psil0Cybin> is it not chmod properly
[01:21] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: permissions are 0600 u+rw?
[01:21] <zizo> a dont know any thigs about this system iam neeeeeeeeeeew
[01:22] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-,would i just chmod it to 0600
[01:22] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[01:22] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: what is it now?
[01:22] <ksefchik> Can anyone help me install ubuntu on a drive with windows 7 on it?
[01:23] <Psil0Cybin> -rw-rw-r--
[01:23] <Psil0Cybin> it says i forgot how to check the chmod of a file
[01:24] <Psil0Cybin> i need -rw-r--r-- rightT J?
[01:24] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-,
[01:24] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: "chmod 0600 ~/.bash_history"
[01:24] <zizo> ksefchik: its very easy
[01:24] <Beldar> ksefchik, State the issue for help.
[01:25] <pr0metheu5> Hi guys. I've been having this problem in Xubuntu 14, where the screen will suddenly just crash. And to fix it, I have to CTRL+ALT+F1 and run either "sudo pkill x" or "sudo restart lightdm," which restarts everything. Is this a known bug?
[01:25] <Psil0Cybin> pr0metheu5, loll used to be my old nickname in CS 1.6 and 1.5!
[01:25] <pr0metheu5> By crash, I mean everything just freezes.
[01:25] <Psil0Cybin> LOL
[01:26] <pr0metheu5> Psil0Cybin, that's cool. =]
[01:26] <Psil0Cybin> small world.
[01:26] <pr0metheu5> Haha, yeah.
[01:26] <ksefchik> Beldar: Last time I tried it on this PC, I was getting a GRUB error: unknown filesystem. So I erased the Ubuntu partitions and am about to try again
[01:26] <cloudrf> yeah
[01:26] <pr0metheu5> cs_assault ftw
[01:26] <cloudrf> actually have seen crashes like that
[01:26] <Psil0Cybin> pr0metheu5, join ubuntu-offtopic :D when u have a chance later.. im always there
[01:26] <pr0metheu5> Psil0Cybin, cool, will do if I get the chance
[01:27] <Psil0Cybin> but its all about the nipper maps pr0metheu5 .
[01:27] <Beldar> ksefchik, Are you on the live dvd/usb now?
[01:27] <pr0metheu5> cloudrf, yeah? Any clue as to what causes it? I think it might have to do with my nvidia optimus card.
[01:27] <ksefchik> I am
[01:27] <cloudrf> i used to use a gts450
[01:27] <codygman> 13.10 no longer gets updates right?
[01:27] <cloudrf> same crap
[01:27] <Beldar> ksefchik, Can you run sudo parted -l in the ubuntu terminal and pastebin it?
[01:28] <cloudrf> check your heats promethius
[01:29] <cloudrf> sometimes ubuntu doesnt jive with current nvidia drivers
[01:29] <PCLine_> I am trying to install in Win7 VirtualPC.
[01:29] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-, it did not work, the bash_history file
[01:29] <pr0metheu5> cloudrf, I'm using bumblebee but I guess that doesn't really mean anything
[01:29] <Psil0Cybin> is not saving anything
[01:29] <ksefchik> Beldar: I'm not sure how to get this to you. The computer in question cannot access my current (school) wireless network due to auth issues.
[01:29] <cloudrf> nooo dont do that!
[01:30] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-, the second I restart the computer, it removes everything and it is empty
[01:30] <Beldar> codygman, It is eol, not sure when 13.10 is removed from the main repos.
[01:30] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: I have no idea what you've done then
[01:30] <Psil0Cybin> all i did was rm -r .bash_history TJ- ... before
[01:30] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: Are you sure you haven't disabled bash history?
[01:30] <cloudrf> are there any ops here?
[01:31] <Beldar> ksefchik, If you feel you need help than come back when we can access the computer easily.
[01:31] <Psil0Cybin> thenthen
[01:31] <Psil0Cybin> i did nano ~/.bash_history
[01:31] <Psil0Cybin> and saved a empty line
[01:31] <daftykins> codygman: it's gone EOL, yes
[01:31] <Beldar> cloudrf, #ubuntu-ops
[01:31] <cloudrf> nice
[01:32] <ksefchik> Beldar: Is there any way you could work with me for a moment? I'm not a newbie, I just need help interpreting what I'm seeing
[01:32] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-, removed the file using rm ~/.bash_history then added it using nano
[01:32] <Beldar> ksefchik, Not without the command run I suggested is all.
[01:33] <Beldar> ksefchik, Others may help, be exact with the issue is all.
[01:33] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys can someone help me I accidentally removed .bash_history and when I readded it back manually using nano it would not save anything, when I restart
[01:33] <ksefchik> Beldar: parted -l came back with 5 file systems: primary,fat32/hidden,lba, primary,ntfs/boot, extended, logical/swap(v1) and logical/ext4
[01:34] <Beldar> ksefchik, Looks like a uefi, this make sense?
[01:34] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: What does "echo $HISTFILE $HISTSIZE $HISTCONTROL" report ?
[01:34] <ksefchik> Beldar: It also warns that my thumbdrive has GPT signatures but does not have a valid fake msdos partition table
[01:34] <ksefchik> Beldar: Yes, this is a UEFI system
[01:34] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-, /home/bill/.bash_history 1000 ignoreboth
[01:35] <Beldar> ksefchik, I'm not really up on uefi/efi installs, however have you seen he wiki?
[01:35] <Beldar> the*
[01:36] <cloudrf> shitpickle
[01:36] <phao> How do I configure my default web browser?
[01:36] <ksefchik> Beldar: Can you direct me to the appropriate page? The
[01:36] <cloudrf> go to settings
[01:36] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: how about "echo $HISTIGNORE" ?
[01:37] <cloudrf> prefered applications
[01:37] <Beldar> !uefi | ksefchik
[01:37] <phao> clopez, thanks
[01:37] <phao> cloudrf, thanks
[01:37] <codygman> thanks Beldar and daftykins
[01:37] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-, that
[01:37] <Psil0Cybin> shows nothing
[01:37] <Psil0Cybin> just a empty line
[01:37] <phao> cloudrf, =D
[01:37] <phao> cloudrf, perfect
[01:37] <cloudrf> no problem phao
[01:38] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: OK, so the obvious control knobs look OK
[01:38] <Psil0Cybin> yes that is correct TJ-
[01:39] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: You say you completely logged out and back in?
[01:39] <cloudrf> darn
[01:39] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-, restarted twice
[01:39] <Psil0Cybin> I can try again
[01:39] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: how many commands have you executed at a bash shell to test it?
[01:39] <Psil0Cybin> bash history is still empty
[01:39] <Psil0Cybin> 4 - 5
[01:39] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: Check that bash is the shell! "echo $SHELL"
[01:40] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-, /bin/bash
[01:40] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: It's a mystery :)
[01:40] <Psil0Cybin> wow
[01:40] <Psil0Cybin> maybe its not Chmod properly?
[01:40] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: how about "echo $HISTSIZE" ?
[01:40] <Psil0Cybin> i am so confused!
[01:40] <Onixs> returns 0 if null
[01:40] <Psil0Cybin> 1000
[01:40] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-,
[01:40] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: good
[01:41] <Psil0Cybin> well not really
[01:41] <Psil0Cybin> nothing is being saved
[01:41] <Psil0Cybin> lol
[01:41] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: how about "echo $HISTFILESIZE" ?
[01:41] <Psil0Cybin> 2000
[01:41] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-,
[01:41] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: good :p
[01:41] <Psil0Cybin> someone said to do this
[01:41] <Psil0Cybin> Psil0Cybin: In .bashrc put:
 export HISTFILE=~/.bash_history
[01:42] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: "shopt  histappend"
[01:43] <Psil0Cybin> what
[01:43] <notori0us> .enter
[01:43] <notori0us> !enter
[01:44] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-, I am so confused
[01:44] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: indeed :)
[01:44] <Psil0Cybin> k honmeslty i guess deleting a simple file ruined my whole history saving?
[01:44] <Psil0Cybin> hahahah
[01:44] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: so what does this show? "shopt  histappend"
[01:45] <Psil0Cybin> on
[01:45] <Psil0Cybin> it says on
[01:45] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: good
[01:46] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: did you simply delete the file and re-login to allow bash to recreate its history file?
[01:46] <Psil0Cybin> yes
[01:46] <Psil0Cybin> well
[01:46] <Psil0Cybin> i did delete it
[01:46] <Psil0Cybin> but i created it my self
[01:46] <Psil0Cybin> when I just removed it, it said it was missing!
[01:47] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: also, if you followed this advice " export HISTFILE=~/.bash_history" have you checked you didn't mistype, and the history is being written to a file with a slightly different name?
[01:47] <Psil0Cybin> so i should
[01:47] <Psil0Cybin> add that line TJ?
[01:47] <daftykins> Psil0Cybin: please try to press enter less, there is no time limit for responses :)
[01:47] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: No, since bash uses that name as its default... that is simply to change the default
[01:47] <Psil0Cybin> What TJ- i am confused
[01:47] <Psil0Cybin> i am being told to add that line
[01:47] <Psil0Cybin> to the file....as nothing else is working
[01:48] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: you already confirmed it is set to " /home/bill/.bash_history"
[01:48] <Psil0Cybin> but
[01:48] <Psil0Cybin> nothing is saving
[01:48] <Psil0Cybin> so that is bad
[01:48] <Psil0Cybin> so what would i do?
[01:50] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: Let's debug it then... "strace -f -e trace=file -o /tmp/bash.log bash -i"
[01:50] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-, within .bashrc
[01:50] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: then type some command ... say "df"
[01:50] <Psil0Cybin> i am missing the line " export HISTFILE=~/.bash_history"
[01:50] <Psil0Cybin> should I not just add it?
[01:51] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: then type "exit" and then "grep hist /tmp/bash.log"
[01:51] <eeee> i just tested this, if you remove it, upon logging back in, it's recreated and with the commands you used to delete it :)
[01:51] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: No, as I told you, you have already confirmed HISTFILE is set (to its default)
[01:51] <Psil0Cybin> eeee, what do u mean?!
[01:51] <eeee> tested it on an another user i made :D
[01:51] <Psil0Cybin> eeee, explain!
[01:51] <Psil0Cybin> so delete the file?!
[01:51] <TJ-> eeee: precisely... bash recreates a missing history file
[01:52] <Psil0Cybin> so just remove it?!
[01:52] <Psil0Cybin> is what ur saying guys lol
[01:52] <Psil0Cybin> and restart?
[01:52] <eeee> yeah just delete it, then log out and log in
[01:52] <eeee> no just log out and log in
[01:52] <Psil0Cybin> okay lets try it
[01:52] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: I asked if you'd done that earlier and you said you had
[01:52] <Psil0Cybin> so rm ~/.bash_history
[01:52] <pr0metheu5> Hi guys. I've been having this problem in Xubuntu 14, where the screen will suddenly just crash. And to fix it, I have to CTRL+ALT+F1 and run either "sudo pkill x" or "sudo restart lightdm," which restarts everything. Is this a known bug?
[01:52] <Psil0Cybin> i have, but i will try it again because maybe i was frazzled and createed it before i restarted.
[01:52] <cloudrf> holy crap
[01:52] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: don't reboot! just log-out the user, and log-in again
[01:54] <Psil0Cybin> okay TJ- we are back to step one, logged out, logged back in....now I get (.bash_history: No such file or directory
[01:54] <Psil0Cybin> )
[01:54] <Psil0Cybin> eeee,
[01:54] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: OK, now do the test I asked you to do
[01:54] <Guest58372> are you sure the xubuntu 14.04 is using lightdm?
[01:55] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: Let's debug it then... "strace -f -e trace=file -o /tmp/bash.log bash -i"
[01:55] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: then type some command ... say "df"
[01:55] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: then type "exit" and then "grep hist /tmp/bash.log"
[01:55] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: and pastebin the result if there's more than 1 line
[01:55] <cloudrf> ubuntu by default uses lightdm ya
[01:55] <cloudrf> mint uses mdm
[01:56] <cloudrf> kubuntu on the other hand is kdm
[01:56] <cloudrf> manjaro is mdm
[01:57] <wannabe1987> was wondering if anyone could help me figure out why  my file window is in grayscale when yesterday it was normal colored/
[01:57] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-, okay http://paste.ubuntu.com/7839544/
[01:58] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: now "stat ~/.bash_history | pastebinit"
[01:58] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: that exercise created a history file: "2994  open("/home/bill/.bash_history", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC, 0600) = 3"
[01:59] <eeee> TJ- why's it say Bill in his prompt but /home/bill in the directory ? is that ok?
[01:59] <TJ-> eeee: hostname and "friendly" username from /etc/passwd
[02:00] <mnathani> what is the preferred method of getting services to start on boot?
[02:00] <TJ-> mnathani: upstart configuration or sysV init script and update-rc.d
[02:00] <mnathani> coming from a RHEL / Centos world, I have always used chkconfig <service> on/off etc
[02:01] <mnathani> TJ-: thanks
[02:01] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-, computer froze
[02:01] <Psil0Cybin> had to reset, did you get the paste bin?
[02:01] <Psil0Cybin> okay it semed to have saved after the restart
[02:01] <Psil0Cybin> let me try and double check
[02:02] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-, it saved df, and exit
[02:02] <Psil0Cybin> so it worked correct?
[02:02] <TJ-> Psi-Jack: Yes
[02:02] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: Yes
[02:02] <Psil0Cybin> Thank you, so much......sigh madness
[02:03] <Guest58372> TJ-: do you know how to change the themes about login screen in xubuntu 14.04?
[02:03] <TJ-> Guest58372: I don't do themes
[02:03] <cloudrf> guest ill help ya
[02:03] <Guest58372> TJ-:thanks
[02:04] <cloudrf>  /usr/share/themes usually
[02:04] <cloudrf> i usually paste mine in there and select them in settings
[02:05] <wannabe1987> https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/1912490_10100100796814324_8632773416909154132_n.jpg is what my file folder window looked like when i woke up - when i went to bed tho, they were normal (orange, not greyscale).  i don't think i did anything in my sleep. but i've no idea; had a movie fullscreened when i went to sleep, and itw as still up when i woek up
[02:05] <Guest58372> cloudrf:that just change the window themes or icon themes
[02:06] <ice9> I'm looking for good scrum application
[02:06] <Guest58372> cloudrf: I wanna change the login screen themes
[02:06] <TJ-> Guest58372: the keyword you're looking for is "Greeter" theme
[02:07] <cloudrf> ohh okay
[02:07] <ksefchik> The laptop I have ubuntu installed on doesn't recognize my page up and page down keys. What can I do to fix this?
[02:07] <eeee> wannabe1987: um, did you try to close it and open a new window ? it looks like a crashed app
[02:07] <cloudrf> what display manager od you use?
[02:07] <wannabe1987> whichever is stock?  unity?
[02:07] <wannabe1987> yay eeee
[02:07] <wannabe1987> thanks
[02:08] <wannabe1987> its back to being colorful
[02:08] <eeee> :)
[02:08] <cloudrf>  /usr/share/lightdm
[02:08] <wannabe1987> thanks peeps.  always helpful
[02:09] <Guest58372> cloudrf: I am not sure, maybe the system is using lightgdm or gdm?
[02:09] <Guest58372> cloudrf:I am using xubuntu 14.04
[02:09] <cloudrf> oh hold on
[02:10] <Guest58372> I try to use the command (pkg-config --list-all | grep *gdm*) to find out what is using now, but noting found.
[02:11] <lucas__> hello
[02:12] <cloudrf> guest its lightdm still
[02:12] <daftykins> hi
[02:12] <Bashing-om> Guest58372: How about -> echo $DESKTOP_SESSION <- to find out the DE  ?
[02:12] <cloudrf> so its /usr/share/lightdm
[02:13] <cloudrf> then change it in startup
[02:13] <cloudrf> on settings
[02:13] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-, the more commands I type it only saves df, and exit on a restart when I reboot and try and test look at the history.....does this mean I am not typing enough commands.....or....
[02:13] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-, I tried updating and upgrading the system, did both...so i thought those commands would also save as a test..
[02:14] <Psil0Cybin> i also ran the command top, but after a restart all those comamnds are gone and it only shows df and exit, lol from the previous time you told me to execute those commands
[02:14] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: It sounds to me as if you're executing some script that is turning off history, or else executing a different shell in some way
[02:15] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: "ls -l /bin/bash" ?
[02:15] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-, all I am doing is restarting my computer, on a default Xubuntu 12.04 system.
[02:15] <Psil0Cybin> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 959120 Mar 28  2013 /bin/bash
[02:17] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: That's good, it's not been sym-linked by something else
[02:17] <Psil0Cybin> hmm, what a silly delema i got my self into...
[02:18] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: how about this? "shopt | sort | grep hist"
[02:18] <Psil0Cybin> i will one line this, cmdhist ON, histappend, ON, histreedit, OFF, histverify OFF, lithist OFF.
[02:19] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: good
[02:19] <nishanth> anyone know how to upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 using ISO on a dual boot machine
[02:19] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: how about "find ~ -maxdepth 1 -name '*bash*'  " ?
[02:20] <Deepspeed> nishanth, backup the drives, format the partition you want to install 14.04 on with a live disc like macpup or sysrescuecd, then boot the new iso and install.
[02:20] <Psil0Cybin> it found .bash_logout, .bash_history, .bashrc
[02:20] <Psil0Cybin> in my home folder.
[02:21] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: Good. Can you "pastebinit ~/.bashrc"
[02:21] <nishanth> Deepspeed well basically my question is if i upgrade from ISO will delete all the other partitions?
[02:21] <nishanth> will it
[02:21] <tlanix> hello
[02:22] <Deepspeed> no.  If you use the livecd and the installer provided, it will only format the partitions you tell it to.  Just make sure you handle the partition/install setup right in the installer
[02:22] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: and also lets check in case other shells are running: "ps -efly | grep sh$ | pastebinit"
[02:23] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7839635/
[02:23] <TJ-> nishanth: that's not really an 'upgrade', that's really a new side-by-side multi-boot install. Do you want to upgrade the existing installation, replace it, or have 14.04 alongside it?
[02:24] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-, S 1000      1857  1808  0  80   0  2740 15982 poll_s 22:12 ?        00:00:00 xscreensaver -no-splash
[02:24] <Psil0Cybin> S 1000      2012  2009  0  80   0  4472  6861 wait   22:12 pts/0    00:00:00 /bin/bash
[02:24] <nishanth> TJ- just upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 using ISO without ruining windows partition
[02:25] <TJ-> nishanth: the recommend in-place upgrade is https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/installing-upgrading.html
[02:26] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-, if i scroll up now lol, i can see  a lot of history, but sadly i think if i restart it will be gone
[02:26] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: "echo $$" ?
[02:26] <Psil0Cybin> or do you think its being selective on what it is saving? I am just confused why it saved your df and exit l,mao comannd but nothing else
[02:26] <Psil0Cybin> 2012
[02:26] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: trying to figure that out :)
[02:27] <Psil0Cybin> okay ty
[02:27] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: OK, that is the same process ID as the one 'ps' reported, so you are using a bash shell right now
[02:27] <Psil0Cybin> your being a big help.
[02:27] <Psil0Cybin> so that is a good sign correct?
[02:27] <Psil0Cybin> i think everything that is more advanced should be fine, like all i did was delete that silly .bash_history file manually, which I will never do again lmao!
[02:28] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: is that Ubuntu 14.04 Trusty?
[02:28] <Psil0Cybin> no should be 12.04.4 LTS
[02:28] <Psil0Cybin> Xubuntu
[02:29] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: Ahhh, OK... I was going to compare MD5 hashes of the "/etc/bash.bashrc" to ensure your system config hadn't been changed, but I can't immediately
[02:31] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: compare this: "md5sum /etc/bash.bashrc" should give 286dc423e71186936c39e3507d2d0cf1
[02:32] <CaptainJewBacon> Hey guys, having some trouble at the moment on my asus g75vx with the brightness fn keys not working and secondly how can I get my keyboard backlight to be on once booted into ubuntu 14.04LTS
[02:32] <eeee> Psil0Cybin: can you try this for me? ls -l /home/bill/.bash_history and check if the user is root
[02:33] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-, sum is the same
[02:33] <Psil0Cybin> eeee, bash history is under my user
[02:33] <Psil0Cybin> not root.
[02:33] <Psil0Cybin> so Bill Bill
[02:34] <eeee> ok
[02:35] <Psil0Cybin> if i type
[02:35] <Psil0Cybin> less .bash_history, lol all it has inside is df, exit
[02:35] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: OK, so the system bash config hasn't been changed in any way
[02:35] <Psil0Cybin> wowowowow.........
[02:35] <Psil0Cybin> after all these commands
[02:35] <eeee> Psil0Cybin: if you type history what do you get?
[02:36] <Psil0Cybin> history shows all the commands i just did, which is what i would like :D
[02:36] <Psil0Cybin> to have saved on a restart.
[02:37] <eeee> if you history > .bash_history
[02:37] <TJ-> eeee: we did an strace earlier from "strace -f -e trace=file -o /tmp/bash.log bash -i" then executed "df" && "exit" and got http://paste.ubuntu.com/7839544/ which shows the file being created by that shell, but the 'master' login shell isn't keeping history it seems
[02:38] <eeee> just write something that does history > .bash_history every time you log out
[02:38] <TJ-> eeee: we also checked all the bash internal HIST* variables, and the shopts
[02:38] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: is this an encrypted home directory/
[02:38] <Psil0Cybin> yes
[02:39] <Psil0Cybin> oh damn so when i delete my .bash_history
[02:39] <Psil0Cybin> i really fudged something up?
[02:39] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: Does your user password also decrypted the ecryptfs?
[02:39] <Psil0Cybin> uuuuuuh, i would assume so using 12.04 LTS
[02:39] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: By that I mean, do you have to type a separate password to decrypt after logging in as your user?
[02:39] <Psil0Cybin> nope
[02:40] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: check if it is with "ls -l ~/.cryptfs" if you get "not found" it isn't encrypted
[02:40] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: typo!! check if it is with "ls -l ~/.ecryptfs" if you get "not found" it isn't encrypted
[02:41] <Psil0Cybin> lrwxrwxrwx 1 Bill Bill 36 Feb  9 00:41 /home/Bill/.ecryptfs -> /home/.ecryptfs/Bill/.ecryptfs
[02:42] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: OK, so it is encrypted... but as the master key is being unwrapped using your user password that is OK
[02:44] <Psil0Cybin> hmm
[02:44] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: the history file is generally written to when the shell exits
[02:44] <Psil0Cybin> k wow
[02:45] <Psil0Cybin> i just typed exit in terminal
[02:45] <Psil0Cybin> and it seems to like that command to save the file
[02:45] <Psil0Cybin> now when i open .bash_history i see added commands
[02:45] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: I'm wondering if anything could be delaying that, such that it is getting written into the /home/$USER/ *after* the encrypted file-system has been unmounted
[02:45] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-, let me try logging in and out
[02:45] <Psil0Cybin> one second
[02:49] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-, so i need to type exit every time in terminal
[02:49] <Psil0Cybin> to save the session
[02:49] <Psil0Cybin> without it, it does not save....
[02:49] <Psil0Cybin> now
[02:49] <TJ-> OK, so you're in xubuntu?
[02:49] <Psil0Cybin> yes
[02:49] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: which GUI terminal emulator are you using to do this? It could be something in its settings
[02:50] <Psil0Cybin> I am using Guake
[02:50] <Psil0Cybin> like the terminal drop down one
[02:50] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: I'll try it hear
[02:50] <TJ-> s/hear/here/
[02:53] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: no problems here with guake writing into my existing .bash_history
[02:53] <Psil0Cybin> i know :(
[02:53] <Psil0Cybin> it was because i dleeted that silly .bash_history file
[02:53] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: Hang on, how do you start it?
[02:53] <Psil0Cybin> its just binded to a hot key
[02:54] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: I mean, how does it get started when you log-in... an entry in the autostart list?
[02:54] <Psil0Cybin> autostart list
[02:54] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: I know you press F12 to call it
[02:54] <arvut> moooo
[02:54] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: I'm wondering if log-out doesn't correctly close the process for some reason
[02:54]  * arvut larry the cow ate me
[02:55] <jorge> facebook
[02:56] <Bashing-om> arvut: Do -> apt-get moo <- .
[02:58] <eeee> sorry arvut, being swallowed by cows are EOL here
[02:58] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-, i give up
[02:58] <Psil0Cybin> it only saves on the command exit, without exit
[02:58] <Psil0Cybin> no saving
[02:59] <Psil0Cybin> no matter how i shutdown or anything....sigh
[02:59] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: have you tried using the default Xubuntu terminal application?
[02:59] <Psil0Cybin> i guess ill have too just because i deleted a silly file
[02:59] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: try to isolate whether this is autostarted guake specific, or more general
[02:59] <Psil0Cybin> lmao
[02:59] <Psil0Cybin> never thought this would happen
[02:59] <Psil0Cybin> honestly if i knew deleting
[02:59] <Psil0Cybin> .bash_history
[02:59] <Psil0Cybin> would cause this
[02:59] <Psil0Cybin> lmao, someone should write a long post
[03:00] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: It shouldn't cause that, I can't see how it can... when you deleted that file, around the same time or before, what *else* were you doing? (re)configuring anything?
[03:00] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: you may be associating the wrong cause with the effect
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> nothing! just deleted that file, and unmounted an encrypted drive, using fusermount (that is mounted using encfs)
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> like littereny nothing
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> this is soooo bizzare,...
[03:01] <eeee> Psil0Cybin: try this:
[03:01] <eeee> shopt -s histappend
[03:01] <eeee> PROMPT_COMMAND="history -a;$PROMPT_COMMAND"
[03:01] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: Well, try bash from the regular xubuntu terminal, close the terminal, and then re-open the terminal and see if the bash commands you ran have been saved
[03:02] <TJ-> eeee: we checked shopt, it's on
[03:02] <eeee> what about the command below it?
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> that worked
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> i think that just added to my .bash_history
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> one second
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> wierd as heck!
[03:03] <TJ-> "history -a" will, that is "append now"
[03:03] <eeee> Psil0Cybin: the command i gave you will update in real time
[03:03] <eeee> yeah it's a workaround i found on a site
[03:03]  * gogh is back (gone 00:12:09)
[03:03] <eeee> http://askubuntu.com/questions/31063/bash-command-history-not-working
[03:03] <eeee> it's specific to guake it seems
[03:03] <Psil0Cybin> LOL lemme read the post
[03:03] <TJ-> eeee: the issue seems to be that bash isn't saving to the history file on exit - at least not when started by guake... I'm waiting to hear if the same occurs with the default Xubuntu terminal
[03:04] <Psil0Cybin> boy oh boy
[03:04] <somsip> !away | gogh
[03:04] <Psil0Cybin> yea TJ let me check
[03:05] <gogh> done
[03:05] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-, not in real time, but when i close the terminal
[03:05] <Psil0Cybin> it saves
[03:05] <Psil0Cybin> let me try logging out guys
[03:06] <daftykins> wish that guy would press enter less.
[03:06] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: That is correct behaviour. Bash saves history on exit.
[03:09] <eeee> the question is why would guake stop saving after closing the terminal, when the file was deleted?
[03:09] <eeee> right ?
[03:09] <Lost_x> hi guys
[03:09] <Lost_x> good day
[03:10] <eeee> maybe it's config or something is messed up now ?
[03:10] <Lost_x> i have this problem, i have successfully installed windows7 and ubunto14.04lts. windows first then ubuntu
[03:10] <TJ-> eeee: I believe the user did something else around the same time but didn't realise until later the history file wasn't being written, and associates it with the "rm"
[03:11] <Lost_x> but booting to windows7 using the linux grub got me this error http://ibin.co/1UGMxPxJ7OIM
[03:11] <Lost_x> new ubuntu user here
[03:12] <TJ-> eeee: I'm looking at the guake source - it keeps its own scrollback buffers using a history_size setting,  but no indication that interacts with the shell (which could be anything) history. My thought is it doesn't cleanly terminate bash when it gets a SIGEXIT
[03:12] <Psil0Cybin> TJ-, eeee thanks i am too tired to deal with it anymore i will assume it is fixed for tonight, but if i ever want to clear my .bash_history file what is the correct way of doing so so this never happens again!!
[03:12] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: Default terminal saving history on exit: That is correct behaviour. Bash saves history on exit.
[03:13] <Xheartt> welcome Lost
[03:14] <eeee> i'm going to test this here
[03:14] <Bashing-om> Lost_x: UEFI ???
[03:14] <ubuntuser13> Lost_x: try sudo apt-get update grub in ubuntu.
[03:15] <ObrienDave> that is a Windows boot error, not a grub error
[03:15] <eeee> lol, i can't get guake to install, when it runs it says did you install guake.schemas properly?
[03:16] <eeee> hmm, it just worked
[03:16] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: Aha!!! I've been reading the guake source
[03:16] <TJ-> eeee: "guake-prefs" first
[03:17] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: eeee I found in "src/guake" this for when it calls delete_shell(): """"This function will kill the shell on a tab, trying to send      a sigterm and if it doesn't work, a sigkill. Between these two
[03:17] <TJ->         signals, we have a timeout of 3 seconds..." SIGKILL will uncleanly kill the bash process if it doesn't end within 3 seconds... that would explain this issue
[03:17] <eeee> i deleted .bash_history, exit and started a new guake term, the history works
[03:18] <Psil0Cybin> okay thanks
[03:18] <Psil0Cybin> :D
[03:18] <Psil0Cybin> guys
[03:18] <TJ-> eeee: put the bash shell into a freeze by suspending it, and then try... I bet the history isn't updated since guake with SIGKILL it
[03:18] <dhxc> hello
[03:20] <TJ-> eeee: Try this: "sudo sed -i 's/num_tries = 30/num_tries = 1/' /usr/bin/guake"
[03:20] <eeee> ok, how do i suspend the shell ?
[03:21] <pr0metheu5> Hi guys. I've been having this problem in Xubuntu 14, where the screen will suddenly just crash. And to fix it, I have to CTRL+ALT+F1 and run either "sudo pkill x" or "sudo restart lightdm," which restarts everything. Is this a known bug?
[03:22] <dhxc> <pr0metheu5 you system are updated?
[03:22] <dhxc> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:23] <TJ-> eeee: I  started guake from another terminal, then did "while : ; do ((a++)); echo $a; done" and then hit Ctrl+C in the controlling terminal... and bash_history wasn't updated
[03:23] <eeee> TJ-: i ran the sed command
[03:24] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, is this a brand new install of Win7?
[03:25] <eeee> whats with guake having no global menu? it's driving me nuts i can't access anything below it like firefox etc.
[03:25] <TJ-> eeee: I can reproduce the issue now, even with "num_tries = 30", with bash running that while loop and then choosing Quit from the guaje context menu in the system tray
[03:26] <arvut> Bashing-om: do emerge moo
[03:26] <Jeffrey_f> pr0metheu5: update your system first, then see if your issue is still an issue   sudo apt-get update&&sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade&&sudo apt-get -y autoremove
[03:27] <TJ-> eeee: Interesting! If I add into that while loop, a sleep as in "...sleep 1; done" then choose Exit from the guake context menu, I get a dialog telling me 1 process is still running and do I want to stop it. I say yes, and then history is updated
[03:28] <lickalott> hey guys, just installed 14.04 to make a media server (to sell). Is there a way to get Plex without having an account?  I don't want to sell a computer with my email address embedded in it, know whadda mean.
[03:29] <Lost_x> ObrienDave, yes sir.
[03:29] <daftykins> lickalott: we don't support third party software
[03:29] <lickalott> copy
[03:29] <daftykins> lickalott: i bet they have a channel
[03:29] <lickalott> thanks
[03:30] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, do you have anything on either you can not lose? (brand new on both)?
[03:30] <lickalott> i haven't actually tried to install and just log out afterwards.  I'll try that.   I was just stopping by to see if anyone knew off the top of thier nuggets
[03:30] <Lost_x> ObrienDave, its a clean install nothing to lose
[03:31] <TJ-> eeee: I suspect for one reason or another, on Psil's PC, that 3-second loop either isn't running for the full 3 seconds, or the PC is thrashing about closing down other things (maybe using swap-file) and so guake just sends bash SIGKILL
[03:31] <eeee> TJ-: so guake is able to sigterm it with a sleep ?
[03:31] <Jeffrey_f> lickalott: /join #plex
[03:32] <lickalott> k. tks
[03:32] <TJ-> eeee: When bash sleeps it can respond to the SIGTERM
[03:32] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, do you have the old drive to clone?
[03:32] <genoobie> hey all
[03:32] <Lost_x> nope
[03:32] <genoobie> just installed lubuntu
[03:32] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, ok, i suggest re-installing Win7 first. make sure it runs 100% correctly before installing Ubuntu.
[03:32] <genoobie> came up with a b43 ucode5.fw was missing
[03:33] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, start with a fresh formatted drive
[03:33] <Lost_x> question on partitioning crive
[03:33] <Lost_x> i mean drive
[03:34] <Lost_x> i have this 500gb hdd
[03:36] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, let Win7 take over the drive completely. Ubuntu install can take care of the partitions later
[03:36] <Lost_x> i partitioned it using windows7 os installer into part1 for windows7 OS, part2 (for ubunto "/"), part3 (for "swap"), and the remaining part for shared windows and ubunto files storage
[03:39]  * [gnubie] waves
[03:39] <Beldar> Lost_x, The windows installer adds a boot partition unless you have a ntfs there already, using a manual install. If you do  a manual without a partition it make a boot partition still.
[03:39] <Beldar> makes*
[03:40] <[gnubie]> i’m running ubuntu trusty amd64. i don’t have an idea why it keeps on rebooting at least once a day. i don’t see any relevant logs in /var/log/syslog
[03:40] <Lost_x> I'll be back, i need my lunch so i can install the OSes correctly ;)
[03:40] <ObrienDave> ok
[03:40] <[gnubie]> any other way i can find the root cause of this reboot?
[03:41] <[gnubie]> i checked the unattended-upgrades but as per its configs, it’s not the cause of the reboot
[03:42] <Jeffrey_f> [gnubie]: does it go down at the same time or randomly
[03:42] <[gnubie]> Jeffrey_f: random
[03:43] <[gnubie]> yesterday at 12:05 and today at 08:05
[03:43] <Jeffrey_f> [gnubie]: terminal type    last reboot
[03:44] <Jeffrey_f> put it to pastebin
[03:44] <[gnubie]> # last reboot
[03:44] <[gnubie]> reboot   system boot  3.13.0-32-generi Wed Jul 23 08:05 - 11:43  (03:38)
[03:44] <[gnubie]> reboot   system boot  3.13.0-32-generi Tue Jul 22 12:05 - 11:43  (23:38)
[03:44] <[gnubie]> oh. sorry. i pasted already..
[03:46] <eeee> how come they both have 11:43 ?
[03:46] <eeee> Jeffrey_f: ?
[03:46] <genoobie> ugh
[03:46] <genoobie> sorry three kids is a bit of a trial
[03:47] <genoobie> at any rate, I installed lubuntu and I have the broadcom wireless
[03:47] <genoobie> I think the driver is installed but not the firmware
[03:47] <genoobie> but I cannot be sure
[03:47] <[gnubie]> Jeffrey_f: any idea?
[03:48] <genoobie> wlan0 is not in the list
[03:48] <genoobie> not sure exactly how to proceed
[03:48] <ObrienDave> !broadcom | genoobie
[03:48] <Jeffrey_f> [gnubie]: do you have pastebinit installed
[03:48] <[gnubie]> Jeffrey_f: nope.
[03:49] <Jeffrey_f> [gnubie]: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[03:49] <Jeffrey_f> once that is installed do     cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades | pastebinit       then post the url it gives you
[03:50] <genoobie> okay, how do I know if the driver is installed but not firmware
[03:50] <genoobie> or if I need to do both steps
[03:51] <genoobie> There's also a choice between b43 and wl
[03:51] <genoobie> any difference?
[03:53] <[gnubie]> Jeffrey_f: http://pastie.org/9413876
[03:55] <Jeffrey_f> [gnubie]:  ok.....not much there and no automatic reboot.
[03:55] <Jeffrey_f> [gnubie]:  last reboot|pastebinit
[03:56] <Ligneus> Hello I was trying to use Ubuntu 14.04 on a tablet/pc and when I am in tablet mode I can't get the on screen keyboard to recognize my finger and I was wondering if anyone has had similar problems or if I have a setting wrong.  I have tried google but havn't had much luck on there.  Thanks.
[03:57] <[gnubie]> Jeffrey_f: http://pastie.org/9413880
[03:58] <eeee> does that last reboot suggest two running sessions?
[03:58] <Jeffrey_f> [gnubie]: something strange......why at 12:05 and 8:05??
[03:58] <Jeffrey_f> why at 5 mins past the hour
[03:59] <eeee> cron maybe?
[03:59] <[gnubie]> no idea..
[03:59] <Jeffrey_f> eeee: how to list cron??
[03:59] <eeee> crontab -e
[04:00] <eeee> also there could be files in /etc/cron.d , ls and cat them
[04:00] <Jeffrey_f> I need to leave for a few.  I'll be back on here within the next 30 mins
[04:00] <[gnubie]> # crontab -l
[04:00] <[gnubie]> no crontab for root
[04:01] <eeee> try with your user?
[04:02] <eeee> nevermind
[04:02] <[gnubie]> $ crontab -l
[04:02] <[gnubie]> no crontab for gnubie
[04:02] <eeee> maybe in /etc/cron.d ?
[04:06] <[gnubie]> eeee: http://pastie.org/9413892
[04:06] <genoobie> okay, I'll ask again, I know this is a stupid question, but I have a broadcom wifi card and there seem to be a few different drivers that will work
[04:07] <genoobie> Ideally there must be one that is best for ubuntu
[04:07] <genoobie> there seems to be b43, wl, broadcom-sta
[04:07] <ChogyDan> genoobie: isn't that handled by the restricted driver manager?
[04:08] <genoobie> ChogyDan: yes, there is proprietary firmware
[04:08] <genoobie> but I cannot figure out where the thing "broke"
[04:08] <genoobie> the wireless isn't an option when I double click the two arrows (so it's not enabled, even though the switch is "on")
[04:08] <daftykins> install it via command line instead of through that program
[04:09] <genoobie> daftykins: but which one?
[04:09] <genoobie> b43, wl, broadcom-sta
[04:09] <daftykins> ultimately, it depends on your hardware
[04:09] <genoobie> it's a bit confusing
[04:09] <daftykins> but try them and see which works, or which is faster and works
[04:10] <genoobie> 14e4:4311
[04:10] <genoobie> it's supported by multiple drivers
[04:10] <daftykins> that's useless, give the name from lspci
[04:10] <daftykins> yep so try them
[04:12] <genoobie> based on what you know...https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[04:12] <genoobie> daftykins: of the choices, b43 vs wl
[04:12] <genoobie> is one better?
[04:12] <daftykins> i just told you what to do.
[04:12] <daftykins> you're not married to the first one you install :)
[04:13] <ChogyDan> genoobie: did you have issues installing the firmware?
[04:13] <poz> what? tell that to ubuntu 12.04.. sheesh
[04:16] <Jeffrey_f> [gnubie] and eeee, anything??
[04:17] <eeee> Jeffrey_f: nope, nothing in cron.d or crontab, http://pastie.org/9413892
[04:17] <zanzacar> can anyone help me with this error? http://pastebin.com/7xT7T3Kt
[04:17] <[gnubie]> Jeffrey_f: still can’t find the root cause.. :(
[04:18] <Jeffrey_f> I just thought it was very strange the 5 minutes after the hour on "last boot"
[04:18] <zanzacar> libsane issues won't go away, been trying -f install, -f autoremove etc but I can't seem to get it to stop complaining to me
[04:19] <linocisco> http://www.networkworld.com/article/2453284/opensource-subnet/ubuntu-14-04-is-canonical-taking-on-too-much.html
[04:19] <linocisco> is true?
[04:20] <ChogyDan> zanzacar: what happens when you try to remove libsane?
[04:20] <ChogyDan> linocisco: maybe try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:21] <linocisco> ChogyDan, thanks
[04:22] <ChogyDan> zanzacar: I can definitely help you get past that error.  It's just a question of how "nuclear" you want to go...
[04:22] <Ligneus> So does anyone think they could help with my touchscreen problem?
[04:22] <rww> .
[04:22] <zanzacar> ChogyDan: Well I could just whipe my whole system but I would like to learn how to resolve it
[04:23] <zanzacar> ChogyDan: Here is the results of remove libsane. http://pastebin.com/AJwHwKFh
[04:23] <Jeffrey_f> [gnubie]: grep -i error /var/log/syslog|pastebinit
[04:24] <Bashing-om> zanzacar: ChogyDan // "trying to overwrite shared '/etc/sane.d/v4l.conf'? .. -> apt-cache policy libsane <- nother instance installed ? .
[04:26] <zanzacar> I am not too familiar with apt-cache so I don't know if there is another instance. Here is the results http://pastebin.com/DXPijEpS
[04:26] <[gnubie]> Jeffrey_f: http://pastie.org/9413908
[04:26] <ChogyDan> zanzacar: dpkg -S /etc/sane.d/v41.conf should tell you what other package might be installed.  apt-cache policy libsane should give you some info on what libsane packages are installed, since, it seems to think there are other versions installed?   A slightly nuclear option would be to just delete /etc/sane.d/v41.conf, and try proceeding from there, reinstalling libsane when you can
[04:27] <iMadper> hi all. I set an empty password for my ubuntu box. However sudo doesn't work after I type "return" after it prompt me input password.
[04:28] <iMadper> is there any workarounds?
[04:28] <zanzacar> ChogyDan: Ok seems logical, so How about I just move it to my home directory for now and see what happens.
[04:28] <ChogyDan> zanzacar: mhm, go for it
[04:29] <zanzacar> ChogyDan: so it just started to complain about another file in the same folder.
[04:29] <zanzacar> Let me try moving the whole directory or something
[04:30] <Jeffrey_f> eeee: check [gnubie] 's pastebin
[04:30] <eeee> i checked it
[04:31] <Jeffrey_f> [gnubie]: do the same command 2 more times.....replace error with panic and warning........lets see what it shows
[04:32] <eeee> [gnubie]: did you recently replace the ram or something, saw a post online about it.
[04:32] <zanzacar> ChogyDan: So I moved the entire directory to my home folder. Everything seems to be installing correctly. Now is there any harm in deleting my old directory?
[04:32] <zanzacar> I am not sure what it is even for to be honest.
[04:32] <kastan> does any one no how to open a .rar file
[04:32] <zanzacar> kastan: carefully
[04:33] <kastan> zanzacar lol
[04:33] <zanzacar> kastan: are you using the terminal or a gui/desktop?
[04:33] <ChogyDan> zanzacar: nah, it's fine.  It is just some files part of the libsane package.  If you just installed a new version of libsane, then everything should be set.  Worst comes to worst, you could reinstall libsane...
[04:33] <[gnubie]> Jeffrey_f: http://pastie.org/9413919
[04:33] <kastan> its a gui desktop but i still use terminal more than i use anything else
[04:33] <zanzacar> ChogyDan: that is kind of what I figured.
[04:34] <[gnubie]> eeee: i added more ram few weeks ago
[04:34] <Jeffrey_f> [gnubie]: shows unclean shutdown......waiting for the next one
[04:34] <zanzacar> kastan: Here is a post on the forum about how to do it through the terminal
[04:34] <zanzacar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2043444
[04:35] <eeee> [gnubie]: do a memtest, restart and hold shift to get grub
[04:35] <zanzacar> You could also do it through the gui/desktop if you wanted to, never the less I think you might need to install something either way
[04:35] <eeee> [gnubie]: it could be that they need to be reseated
[04:35] <kastan> zanzacar awesome thank you
[04:35] <jhutchins> kastan: There's a free unrar program
[04:35] <zanzacar> kastan: your welcome, anytime.
[04:35] <[gnubie]> eeee: what do you mean by reseated?
[04:36] <Jeffrey_f> [gnubie]: did you do the command with panic replacing error??
[04:36] <[gnubie]> Jeffrey_f: yes but no output.
[04:36] <Jeffrey_f> ok, that's a good thing
[04:36] <eeee> [gnubie]: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1722019
[04:37] <eeee> [gnubie]: remove and install them again firmly ?
[04:37] <[gnubie]> eeee: so that’s how to reseat the ram?
[04:38] <Jeffrey_f> [gnubie]: where is this machine physically?  does that room get warm around the times the machine goes down??
[04:38] <Jeffrey_f> [gnubie]: sunlight shining on the system at all??
[04:38] <eeee> [gnubie]: i think so, yes.
[04:38] <eeee> [gnubie]: try the memtest
[04:39] <[gnubie]> eeee: i actually have 4 x 8gb pc1600mhz ecc ram but i’m seeing pc1333mhz from the system
[04:40] <ObrienDave> [gnubie], probably a BIOS limitation
[04:40] <[gnubie]> Jeffrey_f: no idea if the server room was warm during the reboot but i can say that there is always a running cooling system..
[04:40] <Lost_x> hi guys, i'm back
[04:41] <[gnubie]> ObrienDave: the motherboard supports up to pc16000mhz
[04:41] <Lost_x> can you guide me thru the installation?
[04:41] <Lost_x> i will start from scratch
[04:41] <ko3t> Hi! What remote desktop client i have to use on Mac to connect to the desktop shared on Linux Mint? I enabled desktop sharing on mint
[04:42] <Lost_x> so, windows first?
[04:42] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, do you have Win7 installed?
[04:42] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, yes, that is recommended
[04:42] <Lost_x> when installing windows how many partition do i make?
[04:42] <Loshki> !mint | ko3t
[04:43] <ko3t> Ok, I am willing to install Ubuntu
[04:43] <ko3t> what client should I use?
[04:43] <Beldar> ko3t, client meaning?
[04:43] <ko3t> RDP client for Mac
[04:43] <[gnubie]> my motherboard => http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/C600/X9DRD-iF.cfm
[04:44] <Beldar> !mac | ko3t
[04:44] <ko3t> I mean, i want to connect from my Mac computer to my Ubuntu computer
[04:44] <meganerd> ko3t: rdp is for connecting to a Windows PC
[04:44] <ko3t> different machines
[04:44] <ko3t> ok, so what client do I use?
[04:45] <meganerd> ko3t: and ssh is built into macos
[04:45] <Jeffrey_f> [gnubie]: dmesg|pastebinit
[04:45] <meganerd> ko3t: what service are you trying to connect to?
[04:45] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, you don't, let Win7 handle everything
[04:45] <ko3t> meganerd: i want to use graphical UI sharing , not ssh
[04:46] <ko3t> meganerd: vino
[04:46] <meganerd> ko3t: never heard of it
[04:46] <[gnubie]> Jeffrey_f: the output will be a lot of info. besides, it only shows the current running bootup and does not include before it was rebooted. unless you still want to get some idea?
[04:47] <Jeffrey_f> If you looked at it and didn't see anything......it is big.
[04:47] <eeee> that's weird, i just entered a website to read about 1333mhz ram, and i heard the fan come on, next thing i know i get a matrixy-type thing going on (kernel panic i guess?)
[04:47] <meganerd> ko3t: so googling vino and linux it seems that this is some sort of vnc client, I imagine that is what you are looking for then.
[04:47] <ObrienDave> screensaver?
[04:47] <eeee> so i had to hard restart
[04:47] <Lost_x> ok, im booting im windows7 installer
[04:47] <Loshki> ko3t: you want a lot for someone asking about mint & mac on a ubuntu support group. Anyway, there is a vnc mac client, there's also "Screen Sharing" according to google, and also something called microsoft remote desktop.
[04:48] <eeee> ObrienDave: are you talking to me?
[04:48] <ko3t> Loshki: i have to machines , linux and mac, and i want to connect from mac to linux. i didn't know you hate Mint, but I ma totally happy to run Xubuntu
[04:48] <ko3t> two machines
[04:49] <ObrienDave> eeee, just rambling, too much coffee, not enough sleep ;P
[04:49] <eeee> i found this in the /var/log/syslog Jul 23 07:45:28 e kernel: [   20.312967] i915 0000:00:02.0: registered panic notifier
[04:49] <eeee> ObrienDave: hehe ok
[04:50] <Loshki> ko3t: please google "mac vnc rdp client", just like I did...
[04:50] <eeee> did i just lose my kernel panic virginity ?
[04:50] <eeee> lol :D
[04:50] <meganerd> eeee: congratulations?
[04:50] <Bashing-om> eeee: We got from your disconnect " [Read error: No route to host]" // java induced from the web page ??
[04:50] <ko3t> Loshki: i installed VNC on mac, connect keeps being refused. hence the IRC question
[04:51] <ko3t> Loshki: vmc client that is
[04:51] <ko3t> vnc
[04:51] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, let Win7 take over the entire drive, do NOT mess with any partition info, test Win7 install 100% before trying to install Ubuntu, please
[04:52] <Loshki> ko3t: can you ping between the machines? Is the server running? Is there a firewall on client or server?
[04:53] <ko3t> no, no firewall, ssh is working
[04:53] <eeee> Bashing-om: yeah, i guess so..
[04:53] <Lost_x> ObrienDave, so i will not make any partitions in windows7?
[04:54] <Loshki> ko3t: vnc server running?
[04:54] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, no, let Win7 do everything
[04:54] <ko3t> Loshki: vino is running. it's man page says it' s a VNC server
[04:54] <Jeffrey_f> [gnubie]: If the logs are showing nothing spectacular except acknowledging an dirty shutdown, then I will go with a hardware issue, specifically I am thinking it is a thermal shutdown.  Start by getting some compressed air and cleaning out the fans and motherboard heat sinks of duct, especially the power supply.  Ensure that the system has adequate ventilation (no fans are block and air is felt moving) and is not in direct sunlight.
[04:55] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, Ubuntu installer will do the partitions when it's the proper time
[04:55] <Loshki> ko3t: it is, do you know which port it's listening on?
[04:55] <Jeffrey_f> duct, meant dust
[04:56] <Lost_x> ObrienDave, so the whole drive will just be installed with windows7? is that correct?
[04:56] <Lost_x> no partitions
[04:56] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, yes, for now
[04:57] <Lost_x> we know that windows will automatically create  100mb partition for the system reserve
[04:57] <Lost_x> in windows7
[04:57] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, your previous error was due to the partition names, sizes, etc, not being correct for the install
[04:57] <eeee> something's really weird, my fan keeps coming on.. and i have something called update-apt+ running that's taking 100% cpu, i try update-apt and command not found..
[04:58] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, please let Win7 handle everything for now.
[04:58] <Lost_x> ObrienDave, you're right i guess coz, i jst  follow some of the instruction i found in the net
[04:59] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, once it's installed and tested, then we'll worry about getting Ubuntu working
[04:59] <[gnubie]> Jeffrey_f: http://pastebin.com/tLKL1QGf and http://pastebin.com/02bjc3p0
[04:59] <Lost_x> ObrienDave, i deleted  the previous partitions now, i got 1 unallocated space 465.5GB
[04:59] <eeee> i guess update-apt is part of the system.. nevermind
[05:00] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, and we know that 100% of the info on the net is 100% correct. rofl :))
[05:00] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, that sounds good for a 500MB drive
[05:00] <Lost_x> ObrienDave, but i dont want my files and prjects to be save in the same drive with my oses
[05:01] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, you only have one physical drive, yes?
[05:02] <Lost_x> yes only one drive for now
[05:02] <Lost_x> ObrienDave, is it possible to install the ubuntu at the other physicall drive?
[05:03] <ko3t> Loshki: I installed XRDP and I can connect using Microsoft Remote Desktop from Mac. But if I try to start a program via remote desktop , connection is dropped
[05:04] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, yes, i don't see why not. easier to make this drive dual boot Win7/Ubuntu and use 2nd drive for data
[05:06] <Lost_x> i got you
[05:06] <firster> any opinion on using lubuntu as a server?
[05:07] <Lost_x> ObrienDave, installing windows... get back to you when done...
[05:07] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, so, please finish Win7 install before we tackle the Ubuntu :)
[05:07] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, i'll be here
[05:10] <tarelerulz> Do any of you mount your Android smart phone if so  What version of Android to you use?
[05:15] <Beldar> tarelerulz, Do you have an actual issue?
[05:15] <tarelerulz> My problem is I can't mount the device with mtp or usb 3.  It shows up as an icon ,but nothing happens.
[05:16] <edition> where is the SDL2 build for ubuntu?
[05:17] <Beldar> tarelerulz, What ubuntu release and what android release? Do you have the usb debugging set?
[05:18] <tarelerulz> It stock  4.4.2  Android and running Ubuntu 14.04.
[05:19] <Beldar> tarelerulz, Do you have the usb debugging set in development?
[05:19] <tarelerulz> I do now.
[05:20] <Beldar> tarelerulz, unmount and try again
[05:21] <tarelerulz> It shows up as icon .  I don't know where it mounts to the system
[05:22] <NoCoins> Hey, anyone here? :)
[05:23] <ObrienDave> tarelerulz, try /media or /mnt
[05:23] <ObrienDave> NoCoins, nope, no one here
[05:23] <NoCoins> Ahh okay
[05:23] <NoCoins> Thanks ObrienDave :)
[05:25] <tarelerulz> I looked under media and nothing
[05:25] <Beldar> tarelerulz, The icon should open it, I would try another usb cord, not sure usb3 is usable.
[05:26] <Novartis> Anyone know anything about writing some scripts?
[05:30] <tarelerulz> Every port I try the same thing . It not able to mount an mtp device.
[05:32] <Novartis> Anyone with scripting experience?
[05:32] <pr0metheu5> does this room still have the "what is the best x" thing?
[05:32] <Lost_x> ObrienDave, done installing windows, what's next?
[05:33] <pr0metheu5> Or was that casual chat ...
[05:34] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, have you tested Win7? does it boot correctly?
[05:34] <Lost_x> yes, i'll another restart....wait...
[05:34] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, give me about a 10 minute break, brb
[05:35] <Lost_x> ok
[05:36] <miggym> how can i test what xdg-open uses as the default file manager? trying to get "open containing folder" working in chrome/qbittorrent
[05:36] <Sachiru> What does the "linux-firmware" package contain? What exactly does it do?
[05:38] <Beldar> tarelerulz, I suspect you need a different cord your setup should just work.
[05:40] <edition> where is SDL2 libraries for ubuntu?
[05:41] <pjdelport> Hi, i'm trying to troubleshoot an Ubuntu installation that mysteriously stopped booting.
[05:42] <pjdelport> It's on a machine dual booting Windows 8 with UEFI
[05:42] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, is everything ok with Win7?
[05:42] <Lost_x> it boot perfectly
[05:43] <ObrienDave> excellent
[05:43] <pjdelport> It used to work fine for months, but then yesterday it started booting only into Windows, even though the UEFI boot menu shows entries for both Windows and Ubuntu
[05:43] <pjdelport> Choosing either just makes it boot into Windows.
[05:44] <pjdelport> There's no GRUB menu, like there was before when selecting Ubuntu
[05:44] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, burn Ubuntu ISO to DVD
[05:44] <Lost_x> ObrienDave, the whole drive is now in NTFS and i got a 100mb System Reserve drive created by windows during installation
[05:44] <pjdelport> I'm booted into a live CD now, and have Boot-Info output here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7840103/
[05:44] <Lost_x> i got already an ISO
[05:44] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, that is a good thing
[05:45] <Lost_x> Ubunto 14.04lts
[05:45] <pjdelport> (Ubuntu 14.04, of course)
[05:45] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, is ISO burned to DVD?
[05:45] <Lost_x> yes
[05:46] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, ok, boot DVD and select "try Ubuntu" there is an IRC client so you can come back here when booted
[05:50] <Lost_x> ObrienDave, i need to restart the machine?
[05:51] <Novartis> Hi, is anyone here having experience with setting up scripts?
[05:51] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, yes, boot the Ubuntu DVD
[05:53] <arquebus> Novartis: what kind of scripts?
[05:55] <Novartis> arquebus: My goal is for my VPS to listen to my email, and scrape a link from it, visit the link, and then scrape text from the link.
[05:55] <Lost_x> ObrienDave, im in
[05:55] <Novartis> Is that possible? :/ I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[05:55] <Novartis> scrape a link from new emails*
[05:56] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, cool, now run the "Install Ubuntu" icon
[05:57] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, when it asks where to install select "alongside windows"
[05:57] <somsip_> Novartis: it's feasible to set up something like offlineimap to mirror your IMAP email folders (if it is IMAP) and run an inotify script to parse new emails, then scrape from there
[05:58] <Novartis> somsip_ Oh that sounds amazing! Thank you!
[05:58] <pjdelport> Anyone?
[05:58] <mortal_> hello
[05:59] <somsip_> Novartis: links with some info to guide you, though wil need adapting and they are old now: http://is.gd/N2NqNO http://is.gd/5yAlUH
[05:59] <Lost_x> ObrienDave, there's not option for installing it "alongside windows", only "Replace windows7 with ubuntu" and "something else"
[06:00] <mortal_> use vmware
[06:00] <mortal_> or virtualbox
[06:00] <bekks> Lost_x: Errm. Of course you can dualboot Windows and Ubuntu.
[06:00] <Novartis> somsip_ Thank you, so much. :) Really can't express my thanks enough, nice blog too :)
[06:00] <bekks> !dualboot | Lost_x
[06:00] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, there should be 'alongside', look again, please
[06:01] <mortal_> vmware
[06:01] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, should be 3 options, alonside, replace, something else
[06:02] <ObrienDave> *alongside
[06:03] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, is this a UEFI machine?
[06:04] <ObrienDave> bekks, why would it not give the "alongside" option?
[06:04] <Guest46264> ..
[06:04] <Guest46264> 怎么用？
[06:05] <ObrienDave> !cn | Guest46264
[06:05] <ObrienDave> !jp | Guest46264
[06:05] <Lost_x> ObrienDave, here's the image of the intallation ibin.co/1UHFOUjYLRt2
[06:06] <ObrienDave> k, looking :))
[06:06] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, is this a UEFI machine?
[06:09] <timmy-> !kr | Guest46264
[06:10] <bekks> ObrienDave: Because it does not detect a windows dynamic disk correctly, most likely.
[06:10] <Lost_x> ObrienDave, i got this mobo recently. gigabyte 64bit
[06:10] <timmy-> Guest46264: what do you wanna?
[06:11] <Lost_x> i guess this is an EFI machine?
[06:11] <bekks> Lost_x: And is it an UEFI machine?
[06:12] <Lost_x> wait, i'll check if it is UEFI?
[06:12] <bekks> Lost_x: Thats what you asked to answer, yes :)
[06:12] <mnathani> how does one reconfigure networking by modifying the /etc/network/interfaces file and have those changes apply without rebooting?
[06:12] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, please do. i should have asked that first
[06:13] <bekks> mnathani: Just edit that file and restart the networking service.
[06:13] <mnathani> bekks: I did try that, but the changes do not take effect
[06:13] <mnathani> do I need to have if up down statements in there?
[06:14] <bekks> mnathani: Depending on your changes. What did you change exactly? Can you please pastebin it? And can you please pastebin how you tried to apply the changed settings?
[06:14] <mnathani> http://pastebin.com/MnjMbyhA
[06:15] <mnathani> changing the ip address for instance
[06:15] <mnathani> from 10.10.10.65 to 10.10.100.65
[06:16] <bekks> mnathani: Why are you trying to setup a bridge then?
[06:16] <timmy-> mnathani: do you wanna to change your ip address?
[06:16] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, mobo model number, please
[06:17] <Lost_x> ObrienDave, Gigabyte H16M-DS2 R3
[06:19] <Bashing-om> Lost_x: ObrienDave :: typing "bcdedit" in a Windows Administrator Command Prompt window and looking in the "path" line will tell how Windows is booting.
[06:20] <ObrienDave> looks like it's UEFI
[06:20] <mnathani> bekks: the bridge works just fine and is to be used with Virtual Machines KVM
[06:20] <mnathani> timmy-: not at present, but in the past each time I made a change I had to reboot for it to take effect
[06:21] <ObrienDave> !uefi
[06:21] <Lost_x> Bashing-om, tried typing, nothings happen
[06:22] <bekks> mnathani: And how/what did you try to apply those settings?
[06:22] <Heraclides> hellu
[06:22] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, Bashing-om means you need to type that command in a Windows CMD window
[06:22] <aseem> I am following a link given on help.ubuntu to implement ltsp cluster
[06:23] <aseem> here is the link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSP-Cluster
[06:23] <mnathani> bekks: modified the IP address, saved the file, then issued: service networking restart
[06:23] <Bashing-om> Lost_x: // strange, should have seen winload.efi, then you're booted in EFI mode; if it refers to winload.exe, then you've booted in BIOS mode. ( so far as my meager knowledge goes).
[06:23] <aseem> can anyone please explain the purpose of root and application servers?
[06:23] <mnathani> alsto tried /etc/init.d/networking restart
[06:23] <bekks> mnathani: And what did happen?
[06:23] <jnhghy> I have an ubuntu computer  that is not connected to the internet (only intranet) what should I do to be able to connect throw ssh as root? I tried adding a password with sudo passwd and also to add PermitRootLogin yes to sshd_config but I still get permission denied... (I've also restarted the ssh service)
[06:23] <ObrienDave> !uefi | Lost_x
[06:24] <bekks> !root | jnhghy
[06:24] <Lost_x> Bashing-om, do we need to make some changes in the bios?
[06:24] <mnathani> bekks: the old ip remained, new one did not take effect. Then I restarted and then the changes took effect
[06:24] <unstable> What is a good way to search the content of files? eg, if I want to search for a string inside any files on my computer?
[06:24] <bekks> mnathani: So basically your problem is already solved?
[06:24] <bekks> unstable: you can use "grep" for searching inside a file.
[06:24] <jnhghy> bekks: how would that help? I can't do ssh root@ubuntu ?
[06:25] <cfhowlett> unstable "sed"  as well
[06:25] <mnathani> not really, I have other ubuntu boxes I would like to manage IP addressing for without having to reboot each time I make a change
[06:25] <bekks> jnhghy: Correct. Thats intended.
[06:25] <bekks> mnathani: I gues it have something to do with the fact that you are using a bridge. I used bridges a long time ago, and doesnt remember that anymore.
[06:26] <Guest91554> hello
[06:26] <somsip_> unstable: grep -nir "search term" /path (will give you a recursive, ignore case search and output filenames and line numbers)
[06:26] <mnathani> bekks: thanks
[06:27] <Bashing-om> Lost_x: I would suspect so .. ya want to set it to boot in EFI mode and install Windows and ubuntu in EFI mode. Elsae you will be booting the legacy MBR, EFI is the future and is a better partitioning scheme.
[06:27] <Bashing-om> else*
[06:28] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, so, we might have to start over with the Win7 install
[06:29] <santhosh____> hai
[06:29] <ObrienDave> i should have asked first about UEFI, sorry
[06:29] <santhosh____> iam not able to conncet vnc on ubuntu and lubuntu 14.04
[06:30] <Lost_x> here's the image http://ibin.co/1UHN1ojSXmHb
[06:30] <santhosh____> desktop sharing is not working on lubuntuand ubuntu 14.04
[06:30] <Lost_x> it is a a DualBIOS
[06:30] <unstable> Thanks!
[06:30]  * cfhowlett thinks "DualBIOS"?  That's a thing, now?
[06:31] <santhosh____> this is the bug in ubuntu 14.04
[06:31] <santhosh____> hai
[06:31] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, thinking is more like UEFI and BIOS as a backup, dunno
[06:31] <Lost_x> ok
[06:31] <santhosh____> how o reslove the issue in desktop sharing
[06:31] <Novartis> How come files that I do sudo apt-get on aren't listed under ls?
[06:31] <Lost_x> we have time.... :)
[06:32] <santhosh____> in ubuntu
[06:32] <bekks> "DualBIOS" ist just a marketing buzzword for "giving you the ability to choose between UEFI and BIOS behaviour" in the settings.
[06:33] <ObrienDave> Novartis, ls is only a listing for the current directory
[06:34] <ObrienDave> Novartis, and installed package names are not necessarily the same as the installed file names
[06:34] <Bashing-om> ObrienDave: Lost_x :: I am calling it a night for this session. I will return on my morrow afternoon.
[06:35] <ObrienDave> Bashing-om, thank you, see you l8r
[06:35] <Novartis> Oh of course, thank you ObrienDave :)
[06:36] <Novartis> How do I remove a directory?
[06:36] <cfhowlett> Novartis rmdir
[06:36] <Novartis> Ahh
[06:36] <cfhowlett> Novartis so simple a cave man could do it.
[06:37] <Novartis> I apologize for the noob questions. I spent like 10 minutes reading the page on deleting files :/
[06:37] <ObrienDave> caveman? who? where?
[06:37] <cfhowlett> Novartis no apology needed.
[06:37] <bipul> Hello, I am running ubuntu 14.04, I have  connected it to "2.5 SATA EXTERNAL CASE", My question is here, that i can see two icons of Disk in my left panel, each of them is having same volume space.
[06:37] <cfhowlett> No names were mentioned *cough ObrienDave cough*
[06:37] <ObrienDave> LOL ;P
[06:37] <Novartis> rmdir -r for directories with things in them? cfhowlett ?
[06:38] <ObrienDave> Novartis, -r means recursive
[06:39] <Lost_x> obriendave, no probs. go ahead and thanks
[06:39] <cfhowlett> Novartis yep but you might need to sudo that.  when I really need to kill a file, I used that which must not be named command
[06:39] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, i represent that remark ;P
[06:39] <Lost_x> im mean to Bashing-om
[06:39] <Lost_x> ;)
[06:39] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, i'm staying
[06:41] <Mrokii> Hello. I've recently set the $DISPLAY env var and now synaptic doesn't start anymore. I tried unsetting $DISPLAY via "unset display" but Synaptic still complains about it. What can I do?
[06:41] <Lost_x> ObrienDave so, back to scratch?
[06:41] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, oh, cool, AMI bios/uefi
[06:41] <Novartis> Ohhh
[06:41] <Novartis> I think it's rm -r not rmdir -r
[06:41] <Novartis> Which actually makes sense if the directory has files and not just directories in it
[06:41] <Lost_x> i dunno ha, i think the option that we can install ubuntu alongside windows will appear when there are partition found...
[06:42] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, i believe so, let me read the UEFI help topic again
[06:43] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, for now, boot into Win7 and start a CMD window, please
[06:44] <Lost_x> ok
[06:46] <Lost_x> im in cmd now
[06:46] <nikhil> nick
[06:46] <nikhil> sda
[06:46] <nikhil> hello
[06:47] <timmy-> nikhil:who is nick lol
[06:47] <Lost_x> ObrienDave, what's next? im in the command prompt now
[06:49] <ObrienDave> k, sec
 Lost_x: ObrienDave :: typing "bcdedit" in a Windows Administrator Command Prompt window and looking in the "path" line will tell how Windows is booting.
[06:50] <blaaa> Are the nosuid, nodev and noexec permissions generally safe to use for the /tmp filesystem?
[06:50] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, what does the "path" line say?
[06:52] <timmy-> blaaa: maybe you are right,I think the /tmp directory will be auto-cleaned when the system reboot
[06:52] <Lost_x> ObrienDave, "The boot configuration data store could be opened. Access is denied."
[06:52] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, you need to open CMD in administrator mode
[06:53] <Lost_x> ok
[06:54] <blaaa> timmy-: I think that can be set as required, also only files of a specific minimum age can be purged, but the mount flags might interfere with stuff I suppose
[06:54] <akula18> Hello everyone!!! Where can i find list of phones I can install ubuntu on??
[06:54] <cfhowlett> !touch | akula18
[06:54] <akula18> Thanks!!
[06:55] <akula18> !touch
[06:56] <Guest91554> how can i add my own channel?
[06:56] <timmy-> blaaa: you wanna mount manually the /tmp directory?
[06:56] <cfhowlett> Guest91554 in IRC?  /join #yourchannelname
[06:57] <blaaa> timmy-: no automounable in the fstab
[06:57] <Lost_x> ObrienDave, here's the path "\windows\system32
[06:57] <Lost_x> ObrienDave, here's the path "\windows\system32\winload.exe"
[06:59] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, not sure if that means UEFI or not. let's look into your BIOS settings and see if we can find a clue there
[06:59] <Slappy> ok I am getting frustrated
[06:59] <Lost_x> back to bios right?
[06:59] <ObrienDave> yes, please
[07:00] <timmy-> blaaa: do you want to set the read or write permission for the directory by yourself?
[07:00] <Slappy> it seems that no matter what linux distro I use, I get nothing but buggy nonsense & gross instability. I thought linux was supposed to be MORE stable than windows, nless
[07:00] <Slappy> not less*
[07:00] <Sachiru> Strange
[07:00] <cfhowlett> Slappy rant less, details more = you'll get assistance.  otherwise: #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:00] <Sachiru> Most of us find that Linux is more stable than Windows
[07:01] <Sachiru> Could be a PEBKAC error on your end, Slappy
[07:01] <timmy-> blaaa: I think you can use the -o args like 'mount -oremount, wr /dev/xxx /xxx'
[07:01] <cfhowlett> Sachiru PEBKAC?  What the deuce?
[07:01] <ObrienDave> Sachiru, lol
[07:01] <Sachiru> cfhowlett: Google it
[07:01] <Slappy> I installed 14.04 a few weeks ago & from the start I keep getting pop ups saying that there are system problems & programs crashing, & with both Chrome every page crashes & gives me that "Aw Snap herp derp, herpy derpy derpity derp" nonsense
[07:01]  * cfhowlett delivers a slap with a slappy ramen noodle
[07:02] <ozofoz> Hi, this might be out of the scope of this help channel but I am wondering if a system recovery dvd that's given with a laptop can or cannot be used to make newly installed SSD drive work just as the old HDD?
[07:02] <Lost_x> ObrienDave, im in....
[07:02] <ObrienDave> ozofoz, it should work
[07:02] <cfhowlett> ozofoz is this a linux recovery CD?
[07:02] <Lost_x> ObrienDave, what are we looking?
[07:03] <ozofoz> chalcedony: sadly it is a win7 recovery disk, the lappy came with win7 installed on it
[07:03] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, see if you can find "fast boot" being on
[07:03] <Slappy> My question is what do I have to do in order to install & use Ubuntu or ANY distro for that matter without having to worry about glitches & holes where something "went wrong"?
[07:03] <Sachiru> @Slappy: What hardware, how did you install, are you absolutely sure that your hardware is OK, etc?
[07:03] <cfhowlett> ozofoz best ask ##windows how it could be done
[07:03] <cfhowlett> Slappy buy a linux OEM and understand taht there ARE no guarantees.
[07:03] <Slappy> Intell I5, 8 gb of dual channel patriot ram, all my hardware is fine & the Md5 checks out
[07:03] <ozofoz> cfhowlett: i'll try, thank you :)
[07:04] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, see if you can find "fast boot/quick boot" being on
[07:04] <Slappy> Occasionally when I run memtests it throws out errors, but typically once I let the computer sit for a bit, the mem test passes just fine
[07:04] <Sachiru> i5, what mother board, what generation?
 Occasionally when I run memtests it throws out errors, <-- Well there's your problem
[07:04] <Sachiru> Hardware issues
[07:05] <Sachiru> If it's absolutely fine memtest should NOT throw out errors, whether you let it sit for a bit or not
[07:05] <Slappy> Asus board I think, it's a CyberPower desktop I got about 3 years ago
[07:05] <Sachiru> The moment it throws out an error the hardware becomes suspect
[07:05] <Slappy> Its happened on systems with clean ram though too
[07:06] <Sachiru> And how sure are you that the RAM on these systems are clean?
[07:06] <Sachiru> Or the power supply is not at fault?
[07:06] <Slappy> because they test clean, & in most cases are brand new
[07:06] <Sachiru> So?
[07:06] <Slappy> I already tried replacing the ram, it ran clean when I first put it in
[07:06] <bekks> Slappy: "new" doesnt mean a thing at all.
[07:06] <Sachiru> A brand new module cannot come out of the factory without errors, I take it?
[07:06] <cfhowlett> Slappy "new" stuff goes bad all the time.
[07:06] <blaaa> timmy-: yes, it's no problem to add nosuid, nodev and noexec to the mount flags in fstab, but I am not sure these permissions won't interfere with something. Also on /var, does postfix still work correctly with its chroot dir on a partition mounted with nodev for example
[07:07] <Lost_x> ObrienDave, i have enable the Fast Boot option, there are 3 options disabled, enabled and ultra fast
[07:07] <Sachiru> There's this thing called "intermittent errors" with RAM
[07:07] <Sachiru> It may be intermittent, but the fact is that it's throwing out errors
[07:07] <Lost_x> ObrienDave, sending another image http://ibin.co/1UHYARZ16PZ1
[07:07] <Slappy> ok but if it's new & passes memtest, then its safe to assume that it's clean
[07:07] <Sachiru> Also power supply issues can cause intermittent
[07:07] <Sachiru> If it's new and it passes memtest _CONSISTENTLY_ ot
[07:07] <Slappy> ok so your saying these errors are the result of my Ram throwing out errors?
[07:07] <Sachiru> If it's new and it passes memtest _CONSISTENTLY_ it's safe to assume it's clean
[07:08] <Rohan_m> Is there anyway to create new user and restrict him to /home directory
[07:08] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, ok
[07:08] <Sachiru> If it passes memtest only half the time or less it's not clean
[07:08] <Lost_x> ObrienDave, i chose Enabled
[07:08] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, disable fast boot
[07:08] <Slappy> no the old memory only passed half the time & that was if the PC was hot & overused
[07:08] <Sachiru> Think of it this way: Would you call a toaster that turns on only half the time "functional"?
[07:09] <Rohan_m> ikonia: is there any way to create new user and restrict him to home directory
[07:09] <Sachiru> If it isn't, then why do you call RAM that tests out fine only half the time as "clean"?
[07:09] <Slappy> The new ram I tested out in this system & still had the same issues before I transfered it to my secondary system which I bought it for
[07:09] <cfhowlett> Slappy so you're consistently having issues with the hardware ... and that's due to a fault with the OS?
[07:09]  * ObrienDave hates raw toast
[07:09] <ozofoz> windudes seems asleep atm :P
[07:09] <ikonia> Rohan_m: yes, chroot
[07:09] <Sachiru> I'm guessing Windows isn't working well on that system too, Slappy
[07:09]  * Slappy facepalm
[07:10] <ikonia> Rohan_m: you'll be better asking the channel rather than individual people
[07:10] <Sachiru> If all OSes you install on that fails, then maybe it isn't the OS'es fault?
[07:10] <Sachiru> I know, it's such a huge leap of logic, but just try thinking about that
[07:10] <Rohan_m> ikonia: i already asked
[07:10] <timmy-> blaaa: I think the system cannot work correctly for long time if you change the permission of system directory.
[07:10] <Novartis> What's the appropriate usage for automake?
[07:10] <ozofoz> I am wondering if these recovery dvd's have *all* the information required to make the newly installed SSD work, or shall I somehow clone or copy the old disk into that new SSD ? As in, can I just install the SSD, put in the recovery dvd, and get off with it?
[07:11] <cfhowlett> Sachiru Would that be the language of logic you are employing?
[07:11] <Lost_x> ObrienDave, fast boot is already disabled, leave it as is?
[07:11] <timmy-> blaaa: maybe create a non-system directory and change that is better for you
[07:11] <cfhowlett> ozofoz win7 is not supported here.  go to windows for support with windows software
[07:11] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, focus is really bad on that pic, please resend
[07:12] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, yes, leave disabled
[07:12] <ozofoz> i am not asking a windows question, the recovery dvd could also be for linux for those laptops with preinstalled linux systems
[07:12] <Slappy> Well again as I said, when I tested out the new ram on this system, I was getting the same problems, but after I transferred the new Ram to my secondary system to answer your question, Windows actually ran on it reletively fine. Only problem I ran into was having to install some drivers for my ethernet adapter
[07:12] <ikonia> Rohan_m: ok, so waiting for a response rather than randomly asking me when I may not be at my desk would be better
[07:12] <cfhowlett> ozofoz you said it was a windows 7 recovery disk ...
[07:12] <Sachiru> @Slappy: Anywho, tl;dr - Unless you get 100% passed RAM 100% of the time you test, the hardware isn't clean. It could be the RAM, could be the board, could be the processor, could be the power supply, could be some combination of the three.
[07:12] <Slappy> So yeah, still had the same problem when the new clean ram was in this system, but not with the same ram in the other system running windows
[07:12] <blaaa> timmy-: I want to limit permissions on directories as much as possible, so setting the nosuid, noexec and nodev  ount options as much as reasonably possible
[07:13] <Rohan_m> blaaa: same here
[07:13] <ozofoz> but the question is not windows related
[07:13] <Sachiru> Then I suspect incompatibilities with your RAM and the board or CPU. And yes, that happens.
[07:13] <Rohan_m> ikonia: oh i'm new to this chat system i dont know rules
[07:13] <Lost_x> ok
[07:13] <Sachiru> I've had systems that ran fine with 2 GB of DDR3 RAM in a socket, but fail when a 4 GB stick is slotted in.
[07:13] <Slappy> Ok, so presuming I go out & buy ALL new parts & build a brand new desktop & keep getting the same problems?
[07:13] <Lost_x> ObrienDave, reinstall windows7?
[07:14] <cfhowlett> ozofoz depends.  I don't know that computers still come with recovery cd's - you're expected to make your own
[07:14] <ozofoz> i asked if a system recovery disk can be used to make a clean upgraded SSD to work, or shall i clone/copy the old hdd into the SSD
[07:14] <Sachiru> Presuming you buy all new parts you need to check that they all work first.
[07:14] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, not yet, i want to see the rest of the bios settings
[07:14] <Mathisen> dont be a idiot now Sachiru
[07:14] <Slappy> Do I just assume that my new desktop is faulty too? or that Ubuntu seems to have issues that apparently I need to correct after install?
[07:14] <Sachiru> Since you're so convinced and so determined to blame linux, try this: Install Windows on that particular rig and see if you don't get a BSOD within two months.
[07:14] <blaaa> Rohan_m: trial and error is possible to find out what works or not, but I suppose there must be people who've done that before. I have separate filesystems for various subdirectiries, for some it's straightforward what can be done or not, but for others, like /var an /tmp it's less clear...
[07:15] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, please take new pic (in focus ;P ) and resend
[07:15] <Rohan_m> ikonia: so i need to study the chroot concept from start
[07:15] <ozofoz> cfhowlett: okies, thank you!
[07:15] <Slappy> Dude, I been using Linux for about 2 years & at times I do like it more than Windows. Frankly I try to avoid using windows
[07:15] <Sachiru> The thing is, Slappy, you're one of a small few who has problems when installing linux on any system they touch
[07:15] <Sachiru> While we typically just install and go
[07:16] <Slappy> Im just at a point of frustration where I am sick & tired of having to re-install linux & keep trying out distro after distro to find that one that is actually stable only to find out that every time, after a couple days, or sometimes right out of the box I get python issues, or dpkg errors or just random unreportable update problems
[07:17] <ikonia> Slappy: the common issue is the user in those situations normally
[07:17] <Novartis> Have you considered iOS? :P
[07:17] <Slappy> -_-
[07:17] <ikonia> Slappy: you don't randomly get python errors or dpkg errors - only if you do things that cause breakage or don't pay attention to what you are doing
[07:17] <Sachiru> @Slappy: Those typically are indicative of PEBKAC errors
[07:17] <cfhowlett> Slappy if you're that frustrated, install windows l.  Install virtualbox and put linux in a virtualbox so you can experiment.  Or get a mac.
[07:17] <ikonia> Slappy: of course there are bugs, but that isn't the situation you are describing
[07:17] <Novartis> There's a windows 1? :o
[07:18] <Slappy> Pebkac huh? its a freaking point & click GUI install process
[07:18] <Slappy> What did I rub the install icon the wrong way?
[07:18] <Sachiru> @Slappy if your "issues" are that pervasive nobody would use linux for servers. The fact that they do and are capable of keeping them with several months of uptime without difficulty shows that linux is not the thing at fault.
[07:19] <Slappy> Was I supposed to circle the mouse curser over it 3 times & dangle a dead chicken over it before clicking to do it "right"?
[07:19] <Slappy> Its a point & click thing
[07:19] <Slappy> there is very little room for PEBCAK
[07:19] <snufft> hey guys!
[07:19] <cfhowlett> Slappy seems we can't help you.  Suggest you install and use a more "user friendly" OS
[07:19] <cfhowlett> snufft greetings.  ask your questions.
[07:19] <Sachiru> @Slappy: Get a chromebook
[07:20] <Sachiru> Or iPad.
[07:20] <lataupe> Hello, where is Mr Zic?
[07:20] <Slappy> So this is the community support that everyone raves about?
[07:20] <cfhowlett> lataupe wrong channel
[07:20] <snufft> when I ssh into a server, it just shows the $. how cna I change that to something like [user name]@pwd ?
[07:20] <Slappy> If you're having issues, then "clearly it's the users fault & they should just use windows"?
[07:20] <snufft> (the server is ubuntu 12.04 btw)
[07:20] <ikonia> Slappy: what's the actual issue you're having
[07:21] <cfhowlett> Slappy sarcasm and attitude will quickly lead to /ignore.  If you want to solve issue, restrict your verbiage to technical discussion
[07:21] <somsip_> snufft: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizingBashPrompt
[07:21] <Lost_x> ObrienDave, im taking new pic
[07:21] <ikonia> Slappy: no one is saying "clearly its the users fault" however the situation you describe it is commonly driven by bad practices from the user
[07:21] <Sachiru> Apparently he has dpkg errors after installing with GUI installer.
[07:21] <Slappy> I would copy & paste the pop up details here but for some reason they are un-copyable
[07:21] <Sachiru> How that happens is anyone's guess.
[07:21] <ikonia> Slappy: just explain the problem
[07:21] <cfhowlett> snufft #ubuntu-server is also available
[07:21] <lataupe> svp, il est ou le canal pour les français?
[07:21] <ikonia> Slappy: first thing - what version of ubuntu are you using /
[07:21] <cfhowlett> !fr|lataupe
[07:21] <Sachiru> 14.04
[07:22] <snufft> somsip_, cfhowlett thak you very much!
[07:22] <snufft> somsip_++
[07:22] <Sachiru> "<Slappy> I installed 14.04 a few weeks ago & from the start I keep getting pop ups saying that there are system problems & programs crashing, & with both Chrome every page crashes & gives me that "Aw Snap herp derp, herpy derpy derpity derp" nonsense"
[07:22] <snufft> cfhowlett++
[07:22] <lataupe> #ubuntu-fr
[07:22] <cfhowlett> snufft happy2help
[07:22] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, ok, waiting with baited breath :))
[07:22] <ikonia> Sachiru: let me work this through from Slappy please - first had
[07:22] <ikonia> Slappy: lets try to walk through this
[07:22] <ikonia> Slappy: acceptable ?
[07:22] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave baited/bated/
[07:22] <timmy-> blaaa: I am not sure it can work correctly whether you limit permission on  these directories. good luck
[07:22] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, oops LOL
[07:23] <lataupe> join  #ubuntu-qc
[07:23] <Slappy> ok well right now I'm on Ubuntu 14.04. Firefox crashes & closes almost any time I open a browser, Chrome & Chromeum keep crashing with that damn "Aw snap herpty derp" screen, Midory only half loads then just blanks out half the page, & I constantly get "system problem" pop ups & when I use theupdater to update instead of terminal it always ends up faiuling to update something
[07:23] <Sachiru> From what we experience fresh installs resulting in system problems are indicative of hardware issues but he insists that his hardware is clean, despite "<Slappy> no the old memory only passed half the time & that was if the PC was hot & overused"
[07:24] <ikonia> Slappy: ok so lets look at your system
[07:24] <ikonia> Slappy: do you know how to open a terminal ?
[07:24] <Slappy> honestly the only distros that have been stable for me is mint 14, Ultimate edition & Zorin 6.2, (kind of, but still had problems with it before)
[07:25] <ikonia> Slappy: please keep to the topic
[07:25] <Slappy> yes I know how to open a terminal
[07:25] <Slappy> as I said I have been using linux almost exclusively for over 2 years
[07:25] <ikonia> Slappy: ok, do you know how to use a pastebin ?
[07:25] <Slappy> yeah
[07:26] <Slappy> yes I know how to use pastebin
[07:26] <ikonia> Slappy: fantastic, could you please pastebin the output of the following commands (there will be a lot of output) "uname -a" "sudo apt-get update"
[07:26] <Slappy> ok want me to do it as 2 commands or 1
[07:26] <ikonia> 1 pastebin is fine
[07:27] <Slappy> so uname -a & then do an update?
[07:27] <ikonia> Slappy: uname -a (only one line output) put it into a pastebin, then do sudo apt-get update and put it into the same pastebin, then click submit and give me the pastebin url please.
[07:28] <Lost_x> ObrienDave, here the image of the fastboot under BIO Features ibin.co/1UHefClMzcUl
[07:31] <ObrienDave> k
[07:31] <Lost_x> ObrienDave, actually the status of the Fast boot was already changed. I change it. but before it was Disabled
[07:32] <ObrienDave> leave it disabled for now
[07:32] <Lost_x> ok
[07:32] <Slappy> well my system became non responsive so had to do a hard reboot
[07:32] <Slappy> hang on while I try to get the pastebin back
[07:35] <maxxer> hi. I have a DHCPv6 server in my LAN, but NetworkManager is apparently  not requesting dhcpv6 address
[07:35] <maxxer> if I manually run "dhclient -6 wlan0" I get the IPV6 address
[07:39] <Slappy> well this is just perfect
[07:39] <Slappy> now chrome wont even work well enough for me to get the damn pastebin link
[07:39] <Slappy> I THINK this is the right one
[07:39] <Slappy> aaaand it didnt copy
[07:40] <Slappy> -_-
[07:40] <ObrienDave> ikonia, would having Win7 installed in UEFI mode cause Ubuntu install to NOT see the "alongside" option?
[07:40] <Lewoco_> How do I enable mail forwarding using ~/.forward?
[07:40] <ikonia> ObrienDave: possible
[07:40] <Slappy> http://pastebin.com/YXaAcXDg
[07:40] <ObrienDave> ikonia, thanks
[07:40] <Beldar> ObrienDave, It needs an unallocated I believe.
[07:41] <ikonia> Slappy: strtaight away - big problems
[07:41] <Slappy> ok please elaborate
[07:41] <ikonia> Slappy: a.) you've got mixed version repos b.) you've got 3rd party repos / PPA's that can cause package conflicts
[07:41] <ObrienDave> Beldar, we have Win7 installed but Ubuntu install does not see "alongside" option
[07:41] <ikonia> Slappy: your machine isn't up to date also - which I suspect is due to it not being able to do so because of package conflicts
[07:42] <Slappy> I didn't add any repos though. Just whatever the defaukts were
[07:42] <Slappy> defaults*
[07:42] <Beldar> ObrienDave, W8 in general does the same from what I have seen here, a resize in the windows disk manager to make an unallocated is what I've see.
[07:42] <ikonia> Slappy: they are not defaults
[07:42] <ikonia> Slappy: look at it - you have precise repos and trusty repos
[07:42] <ikonia> Slappy: that is VERY bad
[07:42] <ikonia> Slappy: you also have playonjlinux PPA/repo which is known to cause problems
[07:43] <Slappy> Ok so POL causes issues?
[07:43] <ikonia> Slappy: you have the google repos, which sometimes has some odd dependency packages in it depending ont he package
[07:43] <Slappy> well yeah I have Chromium & Chrome
[07:43] <ikonia> Slappy: you have the steampowered repo - but I'm not %100 aware of the current packages in there so don't know of that ones impact
[07:43] <ikonia> Slappy: basically you've installed a lot of bad/conflicting repos
[07:43] <Slappy> So let me see if I understand. Part of the problem is that I am utilizing Chrome, Chromium & POL?
[07:44] <ikonia> Slappy: so I have zero surprise your machine is in a bad way
[07:44] <ikonia> Slappy: no, you're not reading what I said
[07:44] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, ok, let's try reinstalling Win7 with Fast Boot disabled
[07:44] <ikonia> Slappy: problem one - you have mixed precise and trusty repos - this is VERY bad
[07:44] <ikonia> Slappy: problem two - you are using 3rd party repos that are known to cause problems/conflicts
[07:44] <cfhowlett> Slappy mixed repos = 99.9% breakage ...
[07:44] <ikonia> Slappy: these two problems = a huge mess/disaster machine
[07:45] <Slappy> ok, so how did that occur? When I update I either go to terminal & do the spt-get update or I use the update manager
[07:45] <ikonia> Slappy: the fact that you don't know what repos you've installed and think this is "default"
[07:45] <ikonia> Slappy: that suggests the problem - without being rude, is your management of the machine
[07:45] <ikonia> not "ubuntu"
[07:45] <chrissg> Mornin' people. o/
[07:45] <Slappy> ok, so tell me then, what would you call installing the os, opening update manager & clicking update?
[07:45] <cfhowlett> chrissg greetings.  ask you questions
[07:45] <ikonia> Slappy: that's not what you've done
[07:46] <Lost_x> ObrienDave, Thats what we did recently....
[07:46] <ikonia> Slappy: and if thats all you think you've done - you are mistaken, and not aware of what you are doing
[07:46] <ikonia> Slappy: not trying to be rude to you, just trying to be clear with facts
[07:46] <ObrienDave> Slappy, just out of curiosity, between distros did you format your Linux partition or just re-install over each other?
[07:46] <chrissg> No questions :) Answering maybe, hanging out...
[07:46] <Slappy> I formatted
[07:46] <ikonia> Slappy: I would suggest you need a clean install before moving forward with this
[07:46] <ObrienDave> Slappy, ok, thanks
[07:46] <Slappy> I do have other partitions though, so could that be a factor?
[07:46] <Sachiru> @ikonia: Like I said. PEBKAC error.
[07:46] <ikonia> Slappy: no
[07:47] <Slappy> ok so then please answer this for me
[07:47] <cfhowlett> Slappy the fix is to torrent the *buntu you want.  suggest 14.04 for long term support.  format the HDD and clean install.
[07:47] <ikonia> Slappy: I don't doubt it, I agreed, but finding out why there is a problem so Slappy doesn't hit it again is important
[07:47] <ikonia> oops
[07:47] <ikonia> Sachiru: I don't doubt it, I agreed, but finding out why there is a problem so Slappy
[07:47] <ikonia> doesn't hit it again is important
[07:47] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, fast boot was disabled for last Win7 install?
[07:47] <Lost_x> yes
[07:47] <Slappy> I follow the instructions in the installer, & after installing I type in terminal Sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras & then sudo apt-get update
[07:48] <Sachiru> @Slappy: No matter what you click in the instaler it won't add conflicting repos
[07:48] <Sachiru> It's not the installer that's the problem
[07:48] <ikonia> Slappy: that's not what's happened
[07:48] <Sachiru> The installer will NEVER add third-party repos. Or PPAs. Or intermix repo versions.
[07:48] <ikonia> Slappy: at some point you've added the wrong repos
[07:49] <ikonia> Slappy: lets get a clean install and move forward from there
[07:49] <Sachiru> So either you're lying or trying to make excuses for your ignorance, or you're trolling us.
[07:49] <Slappy> Now to get all these conflicting extra drivers, I have to go into update manager & add third party repos right?
[07:49] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, is Win7 still bootable?
[07:49] <Sachiru> Well there's your problem
[07:49] <ikonia> Slappy: lets not discuss this any more
[07:49] <Lost_x> yes
[07:49] <ikonia> Slappy: lets get a clean install and move forward
[07:49] <Slappy> So Im trying to figure out how I gave this system the impression that I wanted to add third party Repos, without actually instructing it to add third party repos
[07:49] <cfhowlett> Slappy but you did precisely that.
[07:49] <Sachiru> Yes. Wipe drive and clean in stall and don't fuck around with third party repos.
[07:50] <cfhowlett> Sachiru dude!  language!
[07:50] <Slappy> ugh fine, hang on
[07:50] <ikonia> Slappy  you know you did it - you installed play on linux
[07:50] <Slappy> I appreciate the help but this is frustrating
[07:50] <ikonia> Slappy: I don't know how/when you installed the precise repos
[07:50] <ikonia> Slappy: either way - lets move on
[07:50] <ikonia> Slappy: it's frustrating as you're not paying attention to managing your machine and causing breakage
[07:50] <cfhowlett> Slappy right.  understood.  moving on ...
[07:50] <ikonia> Slappy: lets get a clean install - take stock and move forward
[07:51] <Slappy> ok hang on
[07:51] <ObrienDave> Slappy, let them help you fix it first then try to understand why later :)
[07:52] <wuxl> Good afternoon everyone!!
[07:52] <jayaura> How do I setup LVM  when installing ubuntu on a fresh system with manual intervention ?
[07:52] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, ok, let's see if we can get Ubuntu to install. boot the DVD please
[07:52] <Lost_x> ok
[07:53] <ObrienDave> lost, 5 min break please
[07:53] <Lost_x> ok
[07:53] <Lost_x> illjust intall ubunto here
[07:54] <Slappy> One quick question, I have a Virtual box virtual drive that I want to keep. how exactly do I transfer that off to a thumb drive or something so I dont lose it?
[07:54] <ikonia> Slappy: just copy it off
[07:55] <Slappy> Where do I find the virtual drive because virtualbox is not opening
[07:55] <Slappy> program files?
[07:56] <wuxl> what??
[07:56] <ikonia> Slappy: there is no such thing as "program files" in linux
[07:56] <Slappy> I mean the file system
[07:56] <ikonia> Slappy: it's on the file system yes
[07:56]  * cfhowlett has a bad feeling about this ...
[07:56] <ikonia> Slappy: just copy the image file off
[07:56]  * Sachiru agrees with cfhowlett
[07:57] <Slappy> well there is content on that virtual drive that I want to keep
[07:57] <Slappy> its browser links & such that I reference frequently
[07:57] <ikonia> Slappy: so move the image off
[07:58] <Slappy> I'm trying to remember which file to find it under
[07:59] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, you mean overwrite win7?
[07:59] <Slappy> found it
[07:59] <Slappy> ok hang on, getting my ubuntu boot disk
[08:00] <Slappy> I should be back in approx 10 to 20 minutes after it installs
[08:00] <ikonia> Slappy: once it installs - do nothing at all, just come back to this channel
[08:01] <FuzzyWhirlpool> I'm coming, guys!
[08:01] <RockyEx> Does the font SansSerif come built in with the Ubuntu distro?
[08:02] <cfhowlett> RockyEx not by defaullt
[08:02] <FuzzyWhirlpool> But there's an alternative for Sans-Serif family, such as Liberation Serif.
[08:03] <timmy-> FuzzyWhirlpool: welcome back, but your nick is toooooo long...lol
[08:03] <RockyEx> cfhowlett: How do I install it ?
[08:03] <Slappy> ok, well while I wait for my vm files to transfer to my thumb drive let me tell you what I typically do. I install the OS on an open partition after formatting it, & once it's installed, I type Sudo apt-get install unbuntu-restricted-drivers, then I install chromium, Epiphinay, Konqueror & rekonq & a few other browsers from the software center
[08:03] <cfhowlett> RockyEx sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted extras will grab that and the restricted codecs you probably don't have
[08:03] <FuzzyWhirlpool> Yeah, I guess my nick is long enough to create a whirlpool.
[08:03] <Slappy> then I install skype, steam & POL, then I sudo apt-get update
[08:04] <cfhowlett> rocky *ubuntu-restricted-extras*
[08:05] <RockyEx> cfhowlett: Is it ok to install this on a Ubuntu server verions?
[08:05] <Slappy> Now in order to return here, I have to install xchat because for some reason I cannot access this IRC through the website
[08:05] <cfhowlett> RockyEx "OK"?  sure. but wouldn't you be happier using the ubuntu font?  It's sans serif you know ...
[08:06] <Lost_x> obrienDave, intall ubuntu in another partition
[08:06] <ObrienDave> Slappy, xchat is included. you can install HexChat
[08:07] <timmy-> ObrienDave: what's the different?
[08:07] <Slappy> it wasnt when I installed ubuntu. I had to install it myself
[08:07] <cfhowlett> RockyEx also, #ubuntu-server is a thing ...
[08:07] <ikonia> Slappy isn't xchat or an IRC client installed by default
[08:07] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, ok, we're going to try "something else" if you don;t have the "alongside" option
[08:07] <RockyEx> cfhowlett: This font needed for one of my applications
[08:07] <cfhowlett> RockyEx ok then ...
[08:07] <Slappy> If it is, it must have fell off the wagon on the way
[08:07] <Lost_x> ObrienDave, does the OS version matters? my machine is 64bit and my ubunto iso is 32bit
[08:08] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, that is the problem. you need a 64bit install of Ubuntu LOL
[08:09] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, 32bit is difficult at best if not impossible to install under UEFI
[08:09] <Lost_x> ObrienDave, how come i successfully installed ubunto then the problem was i can not boot windows in grub?
[08:09] <ikonia> Slappy: worth checking with someone (anyone) in the channel if there is a default IRC client installed
[08:09] <ObrienDave> xchat is default in Ubuntu
[08:10] <ikonia> Slappy: xchat is installed by default
[08:10] <Slappy> ok well we will see if it shows up this time
[08:10] <ikonia> ObrienDave: just found it
[08:10] <ObrienDave> ikonia, so i c :))
[08:10] <Lost_x> ObrienDave, found some topic/article in the net that we need to repair the grub?\
[08:11] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, you really, really need a 64bit Ubuntu
[08:11] <nuggerducks> "we" >Implying you are one of the guys who fixes stuff
[08:11] <Lost_x> ok, downoloading the 64bit copy
[08:12] <ObrienDave> k
[08:12] <Lost_x> so my machine is aleready a UEFI?
[08:12] <ObrienDave> yes
[08:13] <Slappy> ok re-installing now
[08:13] <Lost_x> ah ok, this might be a recess for now... :)
[08:13] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, hoping the 64bit will pick up the "alongside" option
[08:13] <xangua> xchat ins not installed by defualt in Ubuntu ObrienDave ikonia
[08:13] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, not to worry, i have 72 hours before i have to go back to work LOL
[08:13] <]CkB[Hologram> hi im hologram im drunk
[08:14] <]CkB[Hologram> nice to meet you
[08:14] <cfhowlett> ]CkB[Hologram ask your ubuntu questions
[08:14] <ObrienDave> xangua, news to me
[08:14] <user39202> Are updates still being released for ubuntu 13.10 ??
[08:15] <ObrienDave> 13.10 just went EOL
[08:15] <]CkB[Hologram> nash
[08:15] <timmy-> I think the 32bit system will work correctly on 64bit machine
[08:15] <]CkB[Hologram> oops wrong chan
[08:15] <ObrienDave> Timmy, 32bit does not like to install on a 64bit UEFI mobo
[08:16] <ObrienDave> timmy-, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[08:17] <ObrienDave> timmy-, 32bit does not like to install on a 64bit UEFI mobo
[08:17] <Timmy> what??
[08:17] <Timmy> I'm not timmy-, I'm Tiiimmmmy!!!!!
[08:17] <ObrienDave> sorry, wrong timmy
[08:18] <user39202> ObrienDave:  OK.. So when ubuntu reaches EOL, updates are stopped also?
[08:18] <cfhowlett> user39202 end of life = END OF LIFE ... so yes
[08:18] <Ben64> EOL = End Of Life
[08:18] <ObrienDave> security updates, yes
[08:18] <Ben64> all updates, repos are turned off i'm pretty sure
[08:18] <user39202> cfhowlett:  That's good news because I don't want any more updates especially kernel updates messing up my wifi driver :- )
[08:18] <Ben64> user39202: that is NOT good news.
[08:19] <james_> hi
[08:19] <ObrienDave> user39202, 9 month life cycle now
[08:19] <cfhowlett> user39202 you can opt out of kernel updates - but running an unsecured system is asking for trouble
[08:19] <timmy-> lol
[08:19] <jamesbrown> hi guys i am using ubuntu 13.10. I want to my all the folders, sub-folders, files in the test folder read, write and executable http://pastebin.com/QysecEbn
[08:19] <jamesbrown> I tried sudo chown -R james:james /test but that didnt seem to make all of them read, write and executable
[08:19]  * ObrienDave is sticking to LTS only
[08:20] <Ben64> jamesbrown: you should really update to 14.04
[08:20] <timmy-> Timmy:hi Brother
[08:20] <timmy-> lol
[08:20]  * cfhowlett has been LTS only since 10.04
[08:20] <Timmy> timmy-: hey my other nickname
[08:20] <jamesbrown> Ben64 i will later but now is not the time
[08:21] <Ben64> jamesbrown: now is the perfect time, it just went EOL
[08:21] <cfhowlett> jamesbrown time to upgrade, amigo
[08:21] <ObrienDave> jamesbrown, 14.04.1 is due out in a few days
[08:21] <jamesbrown> Ben64 right now I am VPN to my machine i just wanna test this project and then make it live
[08:22] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave 14.04.1 is available now for direct DL
[08:22] <user39202> ObrienDave/cfhowlett: Thanks.  I did my final "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" the other day and I'm happy to leave it that way with the current kernel version.
[08:22] <FuzzyWhirlpool> I think you should issue `chmod -R 777 /test` as james user.
[08:23] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, really? where?
[08:23] <xangua> user39202: you are happy to use an unsupported, with no secutiry updates operating system¿
[08:23] <FuzzyWhirlpool> Yeah, it's already out if you update. `lsb_release -a` shows 14.04.1
[08:24] <ObrienDave> dang, i do dist-upgrade always. have not seen the .1
[08:24] <timmy-> Timmy: OK, I am from the other place like parallel universe
[08:24] <FuzzyWhirlpool> Yeah, don't forget to update before dist-upgrade
[08:25] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/trusty/dvd/current/trusty-dvd-amd64.iso
[08:25] <jamesbrown> FuzzyWhirlpool no sudo?
[08:25] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave scratch that ---
[08:25] <ObrienDave> sudo apt-fast update && sudo apt-fast dist-upgrade
[08:25] <FuzzyWhirlpool> No need for sudo, because the /test folder is owned by james. Right?
[08:25] <ObrienDave> don't mind the apt-fast, i'm on DSL
[08:27] <ntz> hello
[08:27] <ntz> giving support to someone with ubuntu and I don't have (use) ubuntu ...
[08:27] <ObrienDave> ntz, greetings and welcome
[08:27] <vaktor> hi all
[08:28] <jamesbrown> that doesn't seem to work. it hasnt change the permission for my my js, css and image folder
[08:28] <ObrienDave> ntz, better to have them join and ask here
[08:28] <ntz> can anybody check for me, if when something (presumably aptitude or apt-get) have created /var/lib/dpkg/lock if this file is visible in lsof ? eg that the process keep the lock file open()end ? you can do it via: lsof | grep dpkg/lock
[08:29] <ntz> thanks much
[08:29] <FuzzyWhirlpool> Do you think apt-fast here `https://github.com/ilikenwf/apt-fast` is still maintained?
[08:29] <Ben64> ntz: you're not on ubuntu?
[08:29] <ntz> no, just giving to someone a support
[08:29] <cfhowlett> !aptlock|ntz
[08:29] <ObrienDave> FuzzyWhirlpool, i use it
[08:30] <FuzzyWhirlpool> Yeah, it's somewhat faster and resumable.
[08:31] <ntz> cfhowlett: thanks, that was not my question, I need to verify, if package management apps keep /var/lib/dpkg/lock open()ed so it is listed in lsof (or pfiles) .. if the app close the file descriptor after creatingt this file it won't be listed there
[08:31] <loa> how i can change name of interface in ubuntu 14.04?
[08:31] <ObrienDave> FuzzyWhirlpool, i use https://launchpad.net/~apt-fast/+archive/ubuntu/stable
[08:31] <ntz> loa: etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[08:31] <loa> i read that there must be udev rules for persistent naming, but i don't found them
[08:32] <cfhowlett> !details | loa ???
[08:32] <loa> ntz, but there no such file.
[08:32] <loa> ntz, honestly there no any files.
[08:32] <ntz> loa: can you pastebin: find /etc/udev -type f
[08:33] <loa> ntz, ah on my desktop i see that file.
[08:33] <loa> but not on server.
[08:33] <ntz> what release is on server ?
[08:33] <loa> ntz, 14.04
[08:33] <bekks> loa: which file?
[08:33] <ntz> loa: yes, because they are now systemd managed
[08:34] <ntz> loa: try asking in systemd .. or probably try creating that file (based on the file from your desktop) - just change mac addresses
[08:34] <loa> ntz, i am thinking about this.
[08:34] <loa> messing interfaces names like p2p1 is hard for me, i am not r2d2.
[08:34] <loa> messing with *
[08:45] <Edward_Snowden> hello guys
[08:46] <agent_white> Helllo...
[08:47] <agent_white> Edward_Snowden: It seems as though your "NSA-WE-ARE-NOT-MONITORING-YOU" package does not seem to be installed.
[08:48] <cfhowlett> !ot | agent_white
[08:48] <agent_white> May I be of assistance? Your longitude/latitude would be helpful in addressing this issue.
[08:48] <nszceta> 0,0
[08:49] <nszceta> off the coast of africa
[08:49] <agent_white> cfhowlett: Hey now. It's been 14 minutes since a single line of text has been here. I can crack a joke.
[08:49] <agent_white> Calm your tits.
[08:49] <cfhowlett> agent_white read the guidelines.  family friendly channel
[08:50] <agent_white> cfhowlett: I fully understand that.
[08:50] <brontosaurusrex> tits are family friendly
[08:50] <agent_white> s/Calm your tits./Calm your JETS./
[08:50] <agent_white> This  is also a non-troll friendly channel, so don't troll.
[08:50] <ikonia> no-one is trolling
[08:51] <ikonia> you're just being asked to clam down your comments and try to stick to ubuntu support discussion please.
[08:51] <ikonia> clam
[08:51] <ikonia> calm
[08:51] <agent_white> ikonia: Again, this is called a "joke" in english.
[08:51] <ikonia> agent_white: great, and you're being asked to keep it out of the channel "please"
[08:51] <agent_white> I am giving cfhowlett a "hard time" for his behaviour.
[08:51] <agent_white> ikonia: Calm your jets.
[08:51] <ikonia> agent_white: his behaviour is fine - so please stop
[08:51] <ObrienDave> agent_white, no one is joking
[08:51] <patrick-> why is efnet dead?
[08:51] <ikonia> patrick-: ask efnet
[08:52] <cfhowlett> agent_white not interested.  take it to off-topic or play elsewhere.
[08:52] <patrick-> ok
[08:54] <Junka> hi
[08:54] <Junka> when i open a video with totem that i dont support a get a pop-up to install the proper codec. What's tha package name of this?
[08:55] <Junka> not of the codec
[08:55] <Junka> but the app that helps me install the proper codec
[08:56] <ochosi> Junka: that's a dialog that is part of Parole, but that uses a gstreamer script to  install codecs
[08:56] <ochosi> Junka: (in reply to your question in #xubuntu)
[08:57] <Junka> ochosi, yeah but it come to totem too
[08:57] <Junka> goes with totem*
[08:58] <ochosi> Junka: yeah, we made it look similar to the one in totem, it's not an independent thing though
[08:58] <Junka> ochosi, i see thanks
[08:59] <ochosi> anyway, what is the question behind that question?
[08:59] <Junka> i was interested in installing only codecs i need rather a the whole package
[09:00] <ochosi> well usually the codecs are part of bigger codec/plugin packages
[09:00] <ochosi> and anyway, the current implementation is a bit clumsy
[09:01] <Junka> ochosi, thanks
[09:01] <bet0x> !help
[09:08] <clabgin> Hello there, I am trying to extract a file but it says , "tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors". I tried almost everything of what I could but getting it everytime.
[09:09] <DarkSector> How can I set up a wireless ad hoc network if my machine doesn't join an existing network whose config is already in the interfaces file?
[09:09] <Fuchs> clabgin: what does  `file` think about the file? Is it compressed? Are you passing the right options to tar?
[09:09] <DarkSector> I mean how do I switch over, how do I check whether it has been assigned an IP and stuff?
[09:09] <Adam-Ubuntu> Hey
[09:10] <clabgin> Fuchs: git_think.tar.gz: gzip compressed data, from Unix, last modified: Wed Jul 23 06:04:30 2014
[09:10] <Adam-Ubuntu> I'm sitting on a dell xps 420 and i'm trying to get my bluetooth to work, but all i can find is windows drivers, anyone got any idea?
[09:10] <Fuchs> clabgin: right, so gzip compressed tar file.  How exactly are you trying to extract it?
[09:11] <Fuchs> clabgin: tar -xf     should technically auto-detect the compression and do that for you,
[09:11] <Fuchs> clabgin: else try  tar -xzf git_think.tar.gz
[09:11] <clabgin> Fuchs: first I tried tar -xvzf file, then I tried "tar -xzf file"
[09:11] <Fuchs> if that doesn't work: make sure the file isn't compromised / broken  (e.g. due to a faulty download. See if there is an md5 sum or something you could use to check)
[09:12] <Fuchs> clabgin: try -xf,  recent versions of tar should, in theory, auto-detect the compression
[09:12] <Fuchs> clabgin: if that doesn't work, chances are that the file is a bit broken  (if other .tar.gz files work fine)
[09:13] <clabgin> Fuchs: tried -xf, it is giving no  response from long time, I have not stopped, it seems like doing something in background, but as it has been enough time I doubt it
[09:13] <Fuchs> clabgin: add the file after f :p
[09:13] <Fuchs> clabgin: tar -xf git_think.tar.gz
[09:13] <clabgin> Fuchs: yes I added tar -xf file
[09:13] <Fuchs> clabgin: if that does something: see if extracted files appear
[09:14] <Fuchs> if yes: good. If not: it might really be broken  (the file). If you downloaded it: try re-downloading / check the md5sum or similar if available
[09:15] <clabgin> Fuchs: before this .tar file , I ran this command on .txt file by mistake after it exited with same status, after that is same for .tar file too :(
[09:15] <blaaa> exit
[09:15] <Fuchs> clabgin: is that a public available file? If so: where from?  I can see if it works here.
[09:16] <clabgin> Fuchs: no thanks , I am using with public key of my laptop :(
[09:16] <svetlana> http://dpaste.com/3V752Z3 — where do I head from there? I'm running xdm.
[09:16] <clabgin> I am accessing *
[09:17] <Kamuela> If I have a laptop that uses windows 8.1 and some really hardcore EFI that doesn't give me access to BIOS settings without windows, is there a way to make that BIOS behave more normally e.g. able to be accessed at boot time rather than through windows?
[09:18] <Fuchs> clabgin: hm, then I can just advise to make sure the file is not somehow broken
[09:18] <bipul> Hello, I am trying to install Ubuntu from my 2.5 SATA EXTERNAL CASE , But I am unable to install it. When I am able to boot from BIOS , it take to me in grub rescue mode
[09:18] <Fuchs> svetlana: xdm quite probably doesn't support consolekit / logind, so that might be the issue
[09:18] <clabgin> Fuchs: nothing was happening , I killed process and now any of -xvzf, -xzf, -xz are not working
[09:18] <svetlana> Fuchs, what does it support instead? nothing, i.e. no means to lock screen with it? or something?
[09:19] <clabgin> :O
[09:19] <Fuchs> svetlana: you could use something like xlock or xscreensaver-command lock  I guess  (if your goal is to lock the screen)
[09:19] <Fuchs> svetlana: else I'd need to know what exactly you are trying to achieve
[09:20] <svetlana> Fuchs, what is xlock and how  do I install it? I tried xscreensaver before but it wasnt smart enough (if i switch user and then switch back, i have to enter the password twice -- in a dm and in screensaver). you got the goal right.
[09:20] <Fuchs> oh, switching users is a bit more difficult
[09:21] <Fuchs> svetlana: is there a reason you can't use lightdm instead of xdm?
[09:21] <Fuchs> that would probably be way less painful
[09:21] <svetlana> Fuchs, I'm trying to understand the architecture of the other tools.
[09:21] <Fuchs> xlock would be a very very very simple screen locker, but if you also want to switch users: yeah, you'll have to do things twice
[09:22] <Fuchs> svetlana: most of these work with either consolekit or logind (not sure which one ubuntu currently uses), which makes things like switching users a lot easier. They allow you to switch from (and back to) an already running session
[09:23] <Fuchs> svetlana: for that your display manager has to support it as well, which is why I think lightdm would be a lot less painful
[09:23] <jamesbrown> i ran this command chown james -R project86; chmod u+rwX -R project86
[09:23] <jamesbrown> and this happened
[09:23] <jamesbrown> http://pastebin.com/gUbJbUWU
[09:24] <jhpy1024> Hey guys! Does anyone know how I can permanently hide the menubar in gnome-terminal?
[09:24] <Fuchs> jamesbrown: careful with the -R switch, just in general.  What probably happened is that the user your httpd runs under (either apache or httpd) now lost access to that file/folder
[09:25] <Fuchs> jamesbrown: you should not modify the access rights of files / folders delivered by your httpd (apache, I assume).  Edit them in a different place them move them to where they are supposed to be, or add yourself to the group that owns them  (again: probably either httpd or apache)
[09:25] <Fuchs> jamesbrown: probably fixable by using chown  (recursive, again) with the correct user
[09:26] <Guest56035> hey guys, yesterday I tried ubuntu for the very first time but I had an issue. May I just fire my question right out here?
[09:26] <jhpy1024> Guest56035: Sure thing
[09:27] <bcvery> jhpy1024, this extension: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/545/hide-top-bar/ ?
[09:29] <Guest56035> I installed Ubuntu 14 using wubi in Windows 7 on my Toshiba U500 Satellite notebook. When I boot ubuntu, I experience some annoying graphical erros (flickering horizontal white lines whenever I move the pointer or a window)
[09:29] <Fuchs> oh, actually it's www-data  in ubuntu, not apache/httpd. Silly. Sorry :)
[09:30] <Guest56035> My GPU is a Radeon Mobility HD4000 series: Are there known problems with that card and the radeon driver?
[09:31] <ObrienDave> Guest56035, that is usually not an Ubuntu issue due to using Wubi to run Ubuntu. We wish Wubi would die a slow, painful death
[09:33] <Guest56035> Ok but I'm a bit afraid to switch from windows to ubuntu right away with no chance of returning back, that's why I tried wubi first. Is there a better way to run windows and ubuntu on the same machine?
[09:34] <Fuchs> Guest56035: dual boot
[09:34] <ObrienDave> most of us, me included, use the dual boot method of running both Windows and Ubuntu
[09:34] <Fuchs> Guest56035: then you can choose, on boot up, which one to start (and you can set a default as well, which will be booted if you don't hit a button within n seconds)
[09:35] <jamesbrown> hello guys
[09:35] <ObrienDave> Guest56035, but if you don't want to chance borking Windows, you can always install Ubuntu to a USB drive with persistance as a stand-alone system
[09:35] <krejsi> Hi, when I try to boot my Ubuntu after installation on my  dell server with RAID 10  I get "error: attempt to read or wrrite outside of disk 'hd0' ."
[09:35] <jamesbrown> why am i getting this error in the error log http://pastebin.com/gUbJbUWU
[09:35] <jamesbrown> when i did
[09:36] <jamesbrown> i ran this command chown james -R project86; chmod u+rwX -R project86
[09:36] <Guest56035> Ok. I guess I would have to format my whole drive first, then create at least 2 partitions and just seperately install ubuntu and windows on one partition each?
[09:37] <ObrienDave> Guest56035, no, you can use the Ubuntu installer to install alongside windows without reinstalling windows
[09:38] <Fuchs> jamesbrown: hi, yes, as I told you: you probably took the httpd (apache) user the rights on that file away
[09:38] <pdelaneau> or if you want to keep your windows safe; try a virtual machine
[09:38] <pdelaneau> no format
[09:38] <Fuchs> jamesbrown: you should not modify the access rights of files that are delivered by your httpd, add yourself to the right group instead if your really need to modify them in place (you don't)
[09:38] <ObrienDave> pdelaneau, they used Wubi for Ubuntu
[09:38] <pdelaneau> you don't need to
[09:38] <Fuchs> jamesbrown: just executing chown with the right user  (www-data, I assume) should fix that
[09:39] <Guest56035> But can I just install ubuntu alongside windows when I only have 2 partitions c:windows and d:data ?
[09:39] <jamesbrown> Fuchs dont want www-data it needs to be james like all my other folders
[09:39] <Fuchs> jamesbrown: no it doesn't
[09:39] <Ben64> Guest56035: probably. the installer will show you the options
[09:39] <bipul> I am trying to boot a system from my External sata, as it contain a linux file inside it. But when i am doing this i found i am inside a grub rescue mode.
[09:39] <ObrienDave> Guest56035, Ubuntu will add more partitions as needed
[09:39] <Sevet> Guest56035: you can shrink one, create a new one in the newly freed space, and install there
[09:39] <Fuchs> jamesbrown: these are files that are delivered by your httpd (apache, I assume), they shall not belong to your regular user
[09:40] <mjayk> Guest56035: as long as you have enough space the ubuntu installer will resize the windows partition such that you wont lose anything
[09:40] <Sevet> Guest56035: the installer has a guided install to help you do that
[09:40] <Sevet> s/install/option/
[09:40] <Guest56035> Oh ok so the installer will take care of that
[09:40] <ObrienDave> yes
[09:40] <Guest56035> I'm going to try that out
[09:40] <Ben64> jamesbrown: you should do more reading on what apache needs to operate, and permissions in general. also, if you'd like to continue using this channel for support you'll have to follow the rules and upgrade to a supported version of ubuntu (14.04)
[09:40] <Guest56035> Thank you for your help guys
[09:41] <ObrienDave> Guest56035, is it a UEFI system?
[09:41] <Guest56035> Sorry, UEFI?
[09:41] <jamesbrown> Ben64 i know it to do with permissions
[09:41] <ObrienDave> Guest56035, how new is it?
[09:41] <Ben64> jamesbrown: not if you're trying to set stuff to 777. upgrade to 14.04 and come back with any issues you come across
[09:42] <Fuchs> jamesbrown: then why don't you fix it?  If you really want to edit the files as james  (which, again, is a bad idea) add james to the needed group. Do not give these files to james.
[09:42] <ObrienDave> !uefi | Guest56035
[09:42] <Guest56035> My laptop is from 2010; I downloaded the latest version of Ubuntu yesterday
[09:42] <Fuchs> jamesbrown: if that apache is reachable to the public  (internet), I recommend you really read about permissions and keep them as recommended, else you are very likely to make your httpd attackable and compromisable. And you don't want that.
[09:43] <ObrienDave> Guest56035 probably not UEFI then
[09:44] <Guest56035> I don't think it is
[09:44] <Guest56035> Too old
[09:44] <jamesbrown> Fuchs i am using localhost. i will move the project to a live server when i am done
[09:44] <ObrienDave> i'm too old ;P
[09:44] <schnitzl--> is there a known way to change the default behaviour of grep? i dont always want to add the -i flag (caseINsensitive), i want that flag as default.
[09:44] <jamesbrown> but right now its on my pc running xampp
[09:45] <Guest56035> So I will just burn the ubuntu.iso on a CD, adjust boot priority and let the installer do the rest for me
[09:45] <Fuchs> jamesbrown: then you either (bad idea) have to modify the access of the files so apache can still work with them or (still bad, but at least not as) add james to the needed group to modify them, and hand them back to www-data
[09:45] <Ben64> jamesbrown: but first, upgrade to 14.04
[09:45] <Sevet> schnitzl--: alias grep='grep -i'
[09:45] <ObrienDave> Guest56035, yes, but you'll need a DVD. ISO is too large for CD
[09:46] <schnitzl--> Sevet: thx mate
[09:46] <Sevet> in your ~/.bashrc for persistence
[09:46] <schnitzl--> goes in bashrc i guess
[09:46] <schnitzl--> yea
[09:46] <schnitzl--> thx
[09:46] <Guest56035> ok no problem, got some next to me
[09:46] <Ben64> Guest56035: you'll have an option to format everything and install ubuntu. you probably don't want to choose that. read carefully
[09:46] <Sevet> or set GREP_OPTIONS
[09:46] <ObrienDave> Guest56035, after booting DVD select "try Ubuntu" and come back for help
[09:47] <schnitzl--> Sevet: i go with the alias. thx
[09:47] <ObrienDave> you'll find xchat in the internet menu
[09:47] <Guest56035> Ok
[09:49] <svetlana> Fuchs, thanks. I am asking #xdm about my issues. (lightdm and consolekit are also worthwhile things for me to learn, and I appreciate you mentioning them.)
[09:49] <svetlana> Fuchs, *lightdm → logind.
[09:50] <jamesbrown> Ben64 i will tonight right now i need to get this working in 20 mins so i can show my managers what I have done
[09:50] <Fuchs> svetlana: no worries
[09:50] <Fuchs> svetlana: technically you could work around it by locking your screen, starting a new xsession with $otheruser, then just switch back to your original one when that one logs out,
[09:51] <Fuchs> so you wouldn't have to put the password twice. But that is a huge pain in the rear end to set up, I really wouldn't
[09:51] <svetlana> ... "starting a new xsession with $otheruser" ... how?
[09:51] <svetlana> yep
[09:51] <Fuchs> svetlana: if everything is set up correctly  (e.g. xinitrc starting the right environment etc.) a simple startx should work
[09:51] <Fuchs> but then again: huge PITA, I wouldn't
[09:51] <svetlana> yes, but surely their tty startx was run from will not be locked?
[09:51] <Fuchs> I'd just move to a dm which isn't simple and a bit dated on purpose
[09:52] <Fuchs> no, not per default
[09:52] <Fuchs> so you basically have to do everything that logind/consolekit and modern dms do for you manually
[09:56] <thierryS>  /server -m efnet.org
[09:58] <sakokap> i used to have us next to the keyboard in the taskbar but its gone now. how do i get it back?
[10:01] <svetlana> sakokap, with what desktop environment
[10:02] <sakokap> svetlana lubuntu
[10:02] <sakokap> lxde
[10:03] <Malkia> Hello folks! As a new ubuntu & linux user I have problems as you can imagine :) the one I have is TFTP related, may i ask for help here ?
[10:03] <Ben64> Malkia: if its an ubuntu related question, yes
[10:03] <Malkia> yeah
[10:04] <Malkia> or i guess
[10:04] <Malkia> i am running ubuntu 14.04
[10:04] <Malkia> so you tell me
[10:04] <ObrienDave> !ask
[10:04] <Malkia> :)
[10:04] <Malkia> well I'm trying to run TFTP server on my ubuntu install
[10:05] <Malkia> and i get error
[10:05] <Malkia> a sec
[10:05] <Malkia> tftp> get a.txt
[10:05] <Malkia> Error code 2: Access violatio
[10:06] <Malkia> !patience
[10:07] <svetlana> "tftp"? what are you trying to do? (I would probably run an ssh server and use sftp, if I just wanted to transfer files)
[10:08] <Fuchs> sakokap: you could check whether http://noobish-nix.blogspot.ch/2012/06/how-to-add-and-switch-keyboard-layout.html  is still valid for more recent versions, I'd assume so.
[10:08] <Malkia> well i need to use TFTP to transfer a flash.bin file to my router so I can flash it ..
[10:08] <Malkia> i am using serial connection soldered few cables etc ...
[10:09] <Ben64> then follow the instructions for flashing said router, not so much a ubuntu issue from what i can tell
[10:09] <ObrienDave> Malkia, usually the router can access the file through its web interface
[10:09] <Malkia> well that is not the case
[10:10] <Malkia> it's kind of broken now :) the problem i got is that i cant get the tftp server to work
[10:10] <Malkia> the rest is not important
[10:11] <Malkia> I hope i can get some help to make the damn TFTP server to work, not wt
[10:11] <Malkia> not with the router issue
[10:12] <Ben64> you probably aren't running a tftp server and you probably don't want to run a tftp server
[10:12] <Malkia> well I do ! may you help with it or not :)
[10:12] <Ben64> pastebin exactly what you're doing
[10:13] <Malkia> sec
[10:16] <Ben64> !pastebin | Malkia
[10:17] <mark2> I see the super key hold down for the short cuts has been fixed. If you are on here, thank you.
[10:18] <svetlana> :)
[10:21] <Malkia> so what do you want me to paste in the pastebin for you in order to help me with the damn TFTP issue guys ? :)
[10:21] <Ben64> what you're doing that leads up to the error you posted above
[10:23] <Malkia> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7841253/
[10:24] <Malkia> there it is i hope that is how you like to see it
[10:28] <Malkia> so i guess no one has ideas or cares in genera ? :)
[10:30] <elll> hello what are thees loco teams about
[10:30] <Ben64> Malkia: you don't need a tftp server to flash a router
[10:31] <sakokap> how do i assign the super key to the menu in lubuntu?
[10:34] <ObrienDave> Malkia, what is the brand and model number of your router?
[10:36] <Malkia> oh come on guys, i am doing networks 10 years now, the case is this, i broke the firmware, has no web interface and now i had to solder few  cables to run a serial connection to it and now i need to TFTP server to serve one file, i can do that with a program on Windows but I'm trying to learn thing or two for linux, searching the web for 2 days now and nothing helps, i also instaled the same ubuntu 14.04 @ home  and the tftp works without any problems .. ther
[10:36] <Malkia> e is something wrong with this install of ubuntu @ this computer and most likely I broke it somehow .. however i need help with this not with the router PLEASE stop going for the router stuff :)
[10:38] <Ben64> Malkia: for routers you need a tftp client, not a server
[10:38] <Guest51666> Hey, new to linux, poped in to try xchat
[10:38] <Malkia> ok
[10:39] <ObrienDave> Guest51666, it works and welcome LOL
[10:39] <Malkia> so the PC role is client
[10:39] <Malkia> ok
[10:39] <bcvery> Guest51666, Hey, welcome to Linux, this is the support channel, if you have any Ubuntu related questions please ask, if you'd prefer to just chat try #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:40] <Guest51666> Thank for welcome bcvery
[10:41] <human_> @<sakokap> edit (~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml)
[10:41] <Malkia> Ben64: I also made that pastebin thing ..  here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/7841253/ did you had a look @ it ?
[10:41] <Ben64> Malkia: yep
[10:41] <Malkia> so no ideas ?
[10:42] <Ben64> the idea is you don't even need a tftp server, so why bother
[10:42] <sakokap> human how do i edit that??
[10:42] <Malkia> yarrr ! :) you don't get do you ?
[10:42] <k1l> !away > chamunks
[10:43] <Malkia> ok sugest a way of doing it then :) hehe
[10:43] <Ben64> Malkia: listen up matey, tftp clients be for transferring firmware to ye router, not a server
[10:44] <Malkia> ok
[10:44] <Malkia> thats fine
[10:44] <Malkia> my mistake calling it server
[10:44] <Malkia> let it be client
[10:44] <ObrienDave> nice pirate speak Ben64
[10:44] <Malkia> doesn't change nothing
[10:44] <Ben64> no, you're running a server and client on the same computer, its pointless
[10:45] <Malkia> is i t a problem having both
[10:45] <Malkia> ?
[10:45] <Ben64> the error is a permission error. resulting from a user error most likely. none of that changes the fact that you don't need a tftp server at all and this whole exercise is with no point
[10:46] <Malkia> well :) suggest way of doing it then please :)
[10:46] <Ben64> follow the instructions for flashing your router?
[10:46] <Malkia> assume that there is no WEB interface
[10:47] <Malkia> and the only working connection to the device is trough serial port
[10:47] <Malkia> :)
[10:47] <Malkia> actually trough usb-ttl converter-serial
[10:48] <ObrienDave> have you flashed the firmware before using this method?
[10:49] <bhag> uswsusp  is hanging during resume after hibernating the device using s2disk
[10:49] <bhag> Can anyone help me out
[10:50] <Malkia> well yes, but the tftp clent/server or whatever it's role is .. was a program on windows that has interface so you can simply tell where is your file etc. now i wanna do the same but under ubuntu
[10:51] <Malkia> the issue  and the help is all about that tftp
[10:51] <Malkia> not else
[10:51] <sakokap> human i see    <keybind key="A-space">
[10:51] <sakokap>       <action name="ShowMenu"> what should i replace that with?
[10:52] <Ben64> Malkia: it really seems this is not the channel for you
[10:52] <ObrienDave> so, you have a working solution for windows and you want to spend 2 days trying to figure out how to fix the router using linux
[10:52] <Malkia> ok, PLEASE  tell me where to ask
[10:52] <Malkia> well the point is not fixing the router
[10:52] <Ben64> Malkia: maybe ##networking , since its a router problem...
[10:52] <Malkia> i got a lot of routers and gear
[10:53] <Malkia> i need the to leant what is the problem
[10:53] <gillesm> I can't boot on Ubuntu with ASUS Uedi Bios
[10:53] <Malkia> YARRRR!!! the problem is not with the ROUTER DUDE !
[10:53] <Malkia> hehehe
[10:53] <Mrokii>  /leave
[10:53] <Mrokii> oops
[10:54] <Malkia> thanks anyway i will try in networking
[10:54] <ObrienDave> Malkia, i suggest finding a TFTP client that works
[10:54] <Ben64> tftp works fine as a tftp client. the problem is knowing what to do with it
[10:55] <Malkia> that one works :) on other install.. in fact if i simply reinstall the ubuntu it will work i bet my ass.. the point is to understand what goes wrong here
[10:55] <Ben64> which i already explained, up to you to figure it out
[10:55] <Malkia> yeah a permission issue
[10:55] <Malkia> but what can i do about it
[10:56] <Ben64> make sure you can read/write to where you're trying to read/write
[10:56] <Malkia> ok, mate .. now we are talking.. was it that hard ? :)
[10:56] <Ben64> really? you couldn't glean that from "permissions problem" ?
[10:57]  * ObrienDave suspects english as a second language issue
[10:57] <Malkia> well I true newcomer to linux systems so no
[10:57] <Malkia> i am **
[10:57] <Ben64> i tried speaking pirate but it didn't seem to help
[10:58] <ObrienDave> Ben64, the pirate was a good effort ;P
[10:58] <Malkia> ok missed that line somewhere :)
[10:59] <rockworldmini> hi all
[11:00] <rockworldmini> can anyone say g2ipmsg error
[11:00] <ObrienDave> g2ipmsg error
[11:01] <compdoc> funny
[11:01] <ObrienDave> thanks
[11:04] <randint> hello, I'm on Lubuntu 32-bit. I installed graphics drivers for my GPU (NVIDIA GeForce MX420), using this tutorial (http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-install-nvidia-graphics-driver-in-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat). now for some reason I can't choose any resolutions other than 640x480. how could I fix this? before I installed the drivers, my default was 1280x1024.
[11:05] <ObrienDave> randint, where are you trying to select resolution?
[11:06] <trijntje> Malkia: you cant use a port under 1024
[11:06] <randint> ObrienDave: start menu -> preferences -> monitor settings (I'm not sure if it's the correct translation, I'm on a foreign language PC)
[11:06] <Ben64> randint: those instructions are way outdated
[11:07] <randint> Ben64: ok, it they're outdated, how could I reverse the whole thing? should I?
[11:07] <Malkia> OK ppl I do understand that I am a "linux n00by" :) so I don't wanna piss off anybody here, is there a channel that I can ask my "stupid" questions ? "_
[11:07] <Ben64> randint: you have to use a 96.* driver for a MX 420
[11:08] <randint> Ben64: and for that I have to get rid of my current driver, right?
[11:08] <Ben64> randint: you probably installed one much newer
[11:08] <Guest51666> system settings -> display  sets your res
[11:08] <Ben64> randint: what version of ubuntu are you on
[11:09] <randint> Ben64: it's Lubuntu, but I guess there's not much difference
[11:09] <Ben64> randint: i mean version. like 10.04 or 12.04 or ...
[11:10] <randint> Ben64: brb, toilet
[11:10] <trijntje> Malkia: pick a different port number and try again, port numbers under 1024 are reserved
[11:10] <Ben64> trijntje: not the issue here at all
[11:11] <Malkia> i guess so, Ben64 mate.. when i use ls -l /tftpboot i got only root user listed
[11:12] <Malkia> should i see the nobody user listed aswell ? \
[11:14] <viscera> Howcome Ubuntu isn't informing me that new packages are available for download? It's configured to, but doesn't.
[11:14] <viscera> 10.04 LTS
[11:14] <k1l> viscera: desktop?
[11:15] <trijntje> !10.04
[11:15] <viscera> k1l: installed from minimal ISO, then installed ubuntu-desktop task.
[11:15] <viscera> (because LUKS+LVM)
[11:15] <k1l> viscera: that is because the desktop packages dont get any support anymore.
[11:15] <viscera> k1l: oh sorry, it's 14.04 LTS
[11:15] <viscera> typo
[11:16] <ObrienDave> that will make a difference LOL
[11:16] <k1l> viscera: the standard is to make a popup weekly
[11:16] <viscera> k1l: I bumped it to Daily, but still nothing
[11:16] <viscera> k1l: the only non-official repo I have is the Numix PPA
[11:17] <viscera> but it never prompted before that, either
[11:17] <ObrienDave> viscera, update from terminal, i do that every day
[11:17] <trijntje> viscera: wait a week, then manually check for updates, if there are updates something is wrong
[11:17] <viscera> ObrienDave: yes, that works, but I want my GUI to inform me
[11:18] <viscera> trijntje: like I said, it's configured to inform me daily... so why do I need to wait a week?
[11:18] <viscera> ah, it's prompting me now but only after I manually ran the apt-get update
[11:18] <trijntje> viscera: well, if you just installed updates, and set it to daily, you have to wait untill there are new updates, and then wait a day, and if you're not informed after that you have a problem
[11:18] <ObrienDave> you may not have updates every day
[11:18] <trijntje> if you keep checking manually you won't ever get an automatic notifiication
[11:19] <viscera> trijntje: I see
[11:20] <beanee> cant uninstall java 1,8.0_11 orcal
[11:20] <viscera> trijntje: I will resist the urge to manually apt-get update, and keep my eye on http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/
[11:20] <trijntje> viscera: security updates will be installed as soon as they become available
[11:21] <randint> Ben64: I'm on Lbubuntu 14.04
[11:21] <ObrienDave> if set to immediately
[11:22] <Ben64> randint: ok, 14.04 doesn't even include the 96 driver anymore, if stuff was working before you installed the nvidia driver, then you should just go back to that
[11:22] <viscera> trijntje: literally installed? yeah why is that greyed-out?
[11:23] <viscera> trijntje: "When there are security updates" option is greyed-out
[11:23] <viscera> trijntje: so no prompt for security updates at all, then?
[11:23] <trijntje> viscera: no, you always get a notification when there are security updates
[11:26] <viscera> trijntje: but do they install without my input?
[11:26] <trijntje> viscera: no, unless you enabled that during the installation
[11:26] <Guest91278> Does anybody know why virtualbox on Ubuntu 14.04 doesn't recognise USB devices? Extension Pack is installed, yet it doesn't show any usb devices.
[11:26] <viscera> trijntje: I did not.
[11:26]  * viscera reboots
[11:27] <beanee> i cant uninstall java
[11:27] <ObrienDave> Guest91278, you also need guest additions, iirc
[11:29] <Max2507> Hey guys I'm back, "trying" Ubuntu from a USB drive: Still have problems with the graphics. If I use my laptop's built-in screen and extent it to my external Acer monitor everything is fine. But if I turn the laptop screen off, there are some errors on the monitor (white flickering horizontal lines when moving the pointer or windows for example). Can anyone of you guys help me with that issue?
[11:30] <jeffreylevesque> I got the same error installing ubuntu server 14.04  - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1981020
[11:31] <jeffreylevesque> I have LILO installed bc grub couldn't install
[11:32] <compdoc> what file do you edit to set a premanent path?
[11:42] <emr> Hello according to tcpdump output; 14:52:18.940884 IP 129.xxx.xxx.xxx > 31.xxx: ICMP host 202.xxx.xxx.86 unreachable - admin prohibited filter, length 76 whats this mean?
[11:44] <bipul> Hello, I am looking for a help.
[11:45] <bipul> I have external sata disk, through which i am  trying to install Linux, but the problem is that , i am unable to boot, it takes me into grub rescue> mode, and inside there are no disk which has linux file , i have checked with ls [hd0]/boot .. and all to every disk.
[11:47] <beanee> some one please tell me how i do uninstall java 8
[11:48] <beanee> java version "1.8.0_11"
[11:48] <beanee> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_11-b12)
[11:48] <beanee> Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 25.11-b03, mixed mode)
[11:49] <bipul> beanee, sudo apt-get --purge remove <your java package>
[11:50] <beanee> <your java package>????
[11:50] <ObrienDave> beanee, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f78AgMPkw0
[11:51] <beanee> ObrienDave i tried it yesterday
[11:52] <beanee> Package 'oracle-java8-installer' is not installed, so not removed
[11:53] <ObrienDave> beanee, then either the package name is wrong or you don't have it installed
[11:53] <beanee> i dont have it installed
[11:53] <beanee> but java is there
[11:53] <beanee> Dash > java
[11:54] <Ben64> beanee: oracle java doesn't come with ubuntu. try to remember how you installed it
[11:54] <beanee> from there man site,
[11:54] <beanee> main
[11:55] <clabgin> I am having "-rw-rw-r--" access rights on a .tar file, is it possible to extract it
[11:55] <clabgin> ?
[11:55] <beanee> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html
[11:55] <ObrienDave> beanee, not following how it can be there if you don't have it installed
[11:56] <beanee> maybe i installed it and deleted the installer
[11:56] <ObrienDave> linux does not work that way
[11:56] <beanee> idk, i just wanna nuke it
[11:57] <beanee> i downloaded this file  jdk-8u11-linux-i586.rpm
[11:57] <beanee> from this link http://download.oracle.com/otn-pub/java/jdk/8u11-b12/jdk-8u11-linux-i586.rpm
[11:58] <ObrienDave> why a rpm?
[11:58] <renebarbosa> RPMs packages are not for Ubuntu/Debian
[11:58] <beanee> maybe thats the error
[11:58] <beanee> idk
[12:02] <siwica> I have to displays I am working with. Is there a way to have workspaces for each screen separately rather then having a combined one?
[12:03] <siwica> *two displays
[12:04] <siwica> I do not want to change to stuff I am seeing on screen 1 when switching to a new workspace on screen 2
[12:05] <clabgin> how to merge tabs of terminal, while working one tab came out and now I have two terminal windows
[12:06] <beanee> found it
[12:06] <andrew710> hello  .
[12:07] <beanee> ./usr/share/doc/oracle-java8-installer
[12:08] <ObrienDave> cool, sudo apt-get purge oracle-java-8-installer
[12:09] <jamesbrown> hi guys first of. I am running on my local machine. This is not live. It is running as project86.localhost/
[12:09] <jamesbrown> I am getting this error
[12:09] <jamesbrown> http://pastebin.com/DwSYPva8
[12:09] <jamesbrown> can someone please help me.
[12:09] <NoOova> hello all!
[12:09] <NoOova> I have an problem
[12:09] <jamesbrown> What I am trying to do is 1) assign the current user which is me james to the project86 folder
[12:10] <NoOova> Htop does not shows me CPU usage by process
[12:10] <NoOova> all processes has 0% CPU
[12:10] <jamesbrown> james should be ro read, write and executable
[12:10] <jamesbrown> to*
[12:10] <NoOova> but in top graph i see usage and LA is over 10
[12:10] <corp002hun> clangin ctrl-shift-t
[12:13] <loa> ntz, hello. are you here?
[12:22] <poseidon__> hello
[12:31] <hnlin> Does anyone else have issues with mixed languages in UI elements on 14.04 when multiple language support packages are installed? My main set language is Dutch, some of my Gnome dialogs are in Swedish and apt-get install confirmations are in Japanese.
[12:32] <FD225> hello guys...how do i check the remaining disc space of my hard drive?
[12:33] <hnlin> FD225, df
[12:33] <hnlin> FD225, df -h will give you more readable results though
[12:33] <FD225> df?
[12:34] <cfhowlett> FD225 open a terminal: man df
[12:34] <hnlin> FD225, open up a terminal and type df -h
[12:34] <FD225> ok..
[12:36] <rocko> is htfs file system safe now to read and write to it in gnu/linux?
[12:37] <Malkia> HEllo all i got a permissions issue while using tftp client -  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7841253/  Please help ! :)
[12:39] <jamesbrown> what does this mean -rwxr----- 1 james james 21713 Jul 22 22:39 index.php
[12:40] <FD225> guys..i'm running dual boot..windows and linux..in my linux i used just 12GB and when i check d hrd drive space on terminal by type df -h..it says 92% used and 1004M availabe...do i need to delete some files? to boost performance?
[12:40] <rocko> read write execute read jamesbrown
[12:42] <jamesbrown> rocko but it is not executing
[12:42] <hnlin> FD225, that depends on what you want to use it for. If you have applications that require lots of temporary files, 1GB might be a bit on the tight side...
[12:43] <beanee> sudo apt-get java
[12:43] <beanee> then purge it
[12:43] <beanee> fixed
[12:44] <beanee> thasnk
[12:44] <hnlin> !permissions |  jamesbrown
[12:44] <FD225> when i run some programs sometimes it fells slugish..
[12:45] <hnlin> FD255, try to review the applications that you have installed and uninstall those you do not need on short notice.
[12:46] <jamesbrown> hnlin i wnt to set that me james can read, write and execute every files, folders sub-folder sub files etc in my project86 folders. how can i do that please?
[12:46] <hnlin> FD225, performance bottlenecks while running programs can usually be identified using top or atop
[12:47] <Malkia> TFTP issue - >> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7841253/ anyone ?
[12:47] <cfhowlett> FD225 unless you have a significant amount of data or you've added a whole bunch of stuff, 12 gigs is plenty for a new ubuntu installation.
[12:52] <hnlin> jamesbrown, issue a "sudo chmod 700 ./project86" after you have navigated to the parent directory of project86
[12:54] <hnlin> jamesbrown, issue a "sudo chmod -R 700 ./project86" after you have navigated to the parent directory of project86
[12:54] <Corey84> in 14.04 the sources menu is located where again sudo apt-add-repository deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian trusty contrib is failing to add
[12:54] <hnlin> jamesbrown, this will change all files in directories and subdirectories of project86 to 700 or in letters: rwx------
[12:56] <hnlin> jamesbrown, sorry about the -R I forgot in the previous command. -R stands for recursive, see man chmod for details.
[12:56] <hnlin> Does anyone else have issues with mixed languages in UI elements on 14.04 when multiple language support packages are installed? My main set language is Dutch, some of my Gnome dialogs are in Swedish and apt-get install confirmations are in Japanese.
[12:57] <jamesbrown> hnlin You don't have permission to access / on this server.
[12:57] <jamesbrown> sudo chmod -R 700 ./project86
[12:57] <cfhowlett> hnlin I've seen that in issue in Kylin
[12:58] <hnlin> jamesbrown, that's why I told you to navigate to the parent directory of project86 first. I don't suppose the parent directory of project86 is / , now is it?
[12:59] <hnlin> cfhowlett, ah, the Chinese version of Ubuntu? Did they tackle the issue?
[13:01] <Somelauw> Is anyone able to display this pdf correctly using evince? It's supposed to contain text instead of random symbols: http://www.kvdev.nl/mailing-nse-tu/surveyresults.pdf#page=1&zoom=auto,-201,848
[13:02] <cfhowlett> hnln not so much.  Purging the unused languages and setting system language to American English seems to be the recommended correction.
[13:05] <lostinthedark> im totally unable to install anything, apt-get update gives me full of 404's
[13:05] <lostinthedark> is that normal? raring
[13:05] <lostinthedark> are the raring repos gone?
[13:06] <k1l> lostinthedark: yes that is. you are way out of date. the repos get shut down and you are having serious scurity issues since months
[13:06] <cfhowlett> lostinthedark normal.  end of life
[13:06] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | lostinthedark (past) time to upgrade, amigo
[13:06] <lostinthedark> time to upgrade? is the second time that I use this system :/ wtf
[13:07] <k1l> lostinthedark: if you dont want upgrade for a long time use LTS. that is what its for
[13:07] <cfhowlett> !LTS| lostinthedark
[13:07] <lostinthedark> mmh
[13:09] <lostinthedark> can I downgrade this 13.04 to 12.10 (or i should use 12.04? confused)
[13:09] <hnlin_InMeeting> lostinthedark, 14.04 is the new LTS
[13:10] <MoonSlime> lostinthedark use 14.04 LTS
[13:10] <cfhowlett> lostinthedark 12.04 is the previous LTS and is supported until 2017
[13:10] <k1l> lostinthedark: upgrade straight to 14.04 with the 13.10 step in it. then you are good for 5 years
[13:10] <ntz> hello
[13:10] <ntz> one more question in this helpful chan ..
[13:11] <lostinthedark> those numbers are pretty confusing
[13:11] <lostinthedark> im not sure if 14.04 will work for me, i need to use it for Tizen
[13:11] <Pici> lostinthedark: They represent the YEAR.MONTH of release.
[13:11] <cfhowlett> lostinthedark 14.04 for the win.
[13:11] <ntz> is xubuntu based on same builds as ubuntu ? eg the only difference is that it brings xfce ?
[13:11] <boriseto> Is it possible to test if FGLRX is working with a LiveUSB version of Ubuntu?
[13:11] <lostinthedark> which says that ubuntu 12.04 is neeed
[13:11] <k1l> lostinthedark: its the year:month.
[13:11] <Pici> ntz: exactly.
[13:11] <cfhowlett> lostinthedark boot your USB, plug in your teizen and test
[13:11] <ntz> Pici: thanks
[13:11] <renebarbosa> boriseto, nop you can't
[13:12] <renebarbosa> boriseto, you will need to restart the system to get the fglrx module working
[13:12] <lostinthedark> i can upgrade by only using repos ?
[13:12] <hnlin_InMeeting> ntz, do mind though that xubuntu has different default apps installed.
[13:12] <lostinthedark> or, how i should upgrade in a fast way ?
[13:12] <boriseto> renebarbosa, ok, tnx. Will have to find another way then. I know I need to restart it, I was hoping there was a way to force install it on the stick, or restart the xorg only or something. Thank you for your help.
[13:13] <renebarbosa> boriseto, btw, if you're installing the fglrx from the Ubuntu repos it will probably work fine. I am using it and haven't problems.
[13:13] <k1l> lostinthedark: see the bots message
[13:13] <cfhowlett> lostinthedark torrent the 14.04 ISO, make a boot USB, clean install
[13:13] <Busserl> boriseto: i am not sure, but you can create usb sticks with persistent storage area, maybe that could work?
[13:13] <boriseto> renebarbosa, just to confirm what is the GPU that you use?
[13:13] <boriseto> Busserl, yeap, I was thinking of doing that.
[13:13] <renebarbosa> AMD/ATI Mobile 7000
[13:14] <lostinthedark> this sounds painful and crazy, going to lose everything huh ?
[13:14] <jamesbrown> hnlin sorry it was sudo chmod -R 700 project/
[13:14] <lostinthedark> is there not any "archive" of the rarning repos that i can simply use ?
[13:14] <cfhowlett> lostinthedark you mean use everything that you don't even use for months/years at a time
[13:14] <lostinthedark> like snapshots repo in debian
[13:14] <k1l> !eolupgrade | lostinthedark not if you upgrade
[13:14] <boriseto> renebarbosa, thank you.
[13:15] <k1l> lostinthedark: when will you read the answers you are given?
[13:15] <ntz> hnlin_InMeeting: yes, thanks, I realize
[13:15] <lostinthedark> i dont want to upgrade, i want to simply use it
[13:15] <lostinthedark> im not even able to install the zsh package
[13:15] <lostinthedark> everyting in the repos is a 404
[13:16] <k1l> lostinthedark: then you did choose the wrong install in the first place. dont blame us
[13:16] <cfhowlett> lostinthedark that's not "using" that's upgrading which is ... dead
[13:16] <k1l> lostinthedark: you dont take a 2 seater sports cabrio for a family ride with 4 children.
[13:17] <k1l> so you could be ranting and blaming us and ubuntu all day (but not in here) or you could even start to solve your mess
[13:17] <lostinthedark> im really unable to use the system htat i have installed here ?
[13:17] <renebarbosa> lostinthedark, if you really want to use a dead Ubuntu version, to install that software you will need to compile it from sources or search for that package in untrusted mirrors which is obviously unsafe.
[13:17] <renebarbosa> So, the best option is upgrade it.
[13:17] <k1l> lostinthedark: do you complain about windows 3.1 not having support anymore?
[13:18] <lostinthedark> renebarbosa: seriosly, i have no time to do an entirely new download, buy an usb, do a full clean install, re-install everything, copy from idk-where everything back... this is simply crazy
[13:18] <k1l> lostinthedark: no you dont, because its End Of Life. so is the 13.10 ubuntu
[13:18] <k1l> lostinthedark: then update it like the bot told you in his link 3 times already
[13:18] <renebarbosa> lostinthedark, just use the upgrade assistant, it will not hurt.
[13:19]  * lostinthedark searching for the bot
[13:20] <ego> ego
[13:22] <Pici> !eolupgrade | lostinthedark just in case you missed it
[13:23] <MoonSlime> lostinthedark: switch on the light! https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SaucyUpgrades
[13:24] <lostinthedark> aah, seems like replacing archive to old-releases im able to install things again
[13:25] <bipul> Hello, I am unable to boot my Ubuntu, it took me into grub rescue mode.
[13:26] <cfhowlett> bipul this is booting from the HDD?
[13:26] <bipul> cfhowlett, I am booting it from my External SATA
[13:26] <bipul> I have fixed it with my USB.
[13:27] <bipul> I have follow this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting
[13:27] <bipul> error:file not found.
[13:27] <bipul> grub rescue>
[13:27] <ego_> bipul try the iso grub repair
[13:28] <bipul> how's that?
[13:28] <bipul> I have to download an ISO file on my external sata
[13:29] <TJ-> bipul: what does "set" report?
[13:29] <bipul> ego_, How? Do I have to download iso file on my external sata
[13:29] <ego_> it is a linux iso you can find on the net,you burn it on a cd and boot your machine with it
[13:29] <cfhowlett> bipul I thought you said you had installed ubuntu to the external sata?
[13:29] <cfhowlett> !details | bipul
[13:30] <bipul> set report says " color_highlight=black/white color_normal=white/black pager= prefix=(hd0,msdos3)/boot/grub root=hd0,msdos3
[13:31] <snufft> hi guys
[13:31] <cfhowlett> snufft back so soon!
[13:31] <snufft> stupid question, i've just added a 3rd party ppa for nginx. how do i make sure that nginx comes from that ppa instead of the default ubuntu one?
[13:31] <TJ-> bipul: And what does "ls (hd0,msdos3)/" report?
[13:31] <snufft> cfhowlett, hahaha, np!
[13:32] <ego_> http://www.beginlinux.com/server_training/server-managment-topics/1069-supergrub
[13:32] <Pici> snufft: apt will always pull the highest version number for a package from whatever repository has it.
[13:32] <snufft> Pici, is there a way that I can investigate those version numbers to check first?
[13:32] <bipul> It's showing my the root / directory structure
[13:33] <TJ-> bipul: That's good to being with... lets check you can see the grub boot files too
[13:33] <Pici> snufft: apt-cache policy nginx   will tell you which repositories have what versions
[13:33] <cfhowlett> snufft apt-cache policy packagename
[13:33] <TJ-> bipul: "ls (hd0,msdos3)/boot/grub/"
[13:33] <bipul> NO i can't see
[13:34] <bipul> Yes i did that it shows error:no such partition
[13:34] <TJ-> bipul: I think you mis-typed the 'msdos3' part there, that is the partition, and it worked when you used it previously
[13:35] <snufft> Pici, cfhowlett thanks heaps! fortunately my new ppa is using a higher version number :)
[13:35] <clabgin> how to make a user owner of a file
[13:35] <clabgin> ?
[13:36] <bipul> TJ-, Previously it working, but now when i am using it, ls (hd0,msdos3)/ it shows me error:no such partition.
[13:36] <k1l> !chown | clabgin
[13:36] <TJ-> bipul: Hmmm, that is weird... almost like the disk drive has disappeared
[13:37] <TJ-> bipul: if you issue "normal" does it report the same issue?
[13:37] <bipul> yes
[13:38] <bipul> now when i have unplugged it and then plugged it shows me list of directory. When I performed this commadn ls (hd0,msdos3)/
[13:39] <TJ-> bipul: OK, so that suggests there could be a hardware issue... could the eSATA cable be moving in the socket, or the drive not receiving sufficient power?
[13:39] <bipul> but when i am trying to use this command ls (hd0,msdos3)/boot/grub it's giving me an output error: file not found
[13:40] <TJ-> bipul: that suggests that grub isn't installed in that location... lets try some others shall we?
[13:40] <bipul> yes sure
[13:41] <TJ-> bipul: lets work through the partitions starting at #1, with "ls (hd0,msdos1)/" then "ls (hd0,msdos2)/" ... if you see anything like "boot" or "grub" in the output you may have found the correct location of GRUB
[13:41] <bipul> ok Let me try this
[13:42] <clabgin> whenever I am running a script on server , process gets killed,  free diskspace is 1GB and free ram at the time of process kill is 100 MB???
[13:42] <clabgin> is that enough to keep running  process
[13:42] <clabgin> ?
[13:42] <TJ-> clabgin: killed by what?
[13:44] <bipul> See when i have listed it, it shows me (hd0) (hd0,msdos3) (hd0,msdos2) (hd0,msdos1) (hd1) (hd1,msdos2) (hd1,msdos1)
[13:44] <clabgin> TJ-: dont know by what, where is issue?
[13:44] <bipul> TJ-, Should i list every one?
[13:45] <TJ-> clabgin: I don't know, but unless we know what is killing the process (check the logs?) then it could be anything at all
[13:45] <clabgin> TJ-: how to find the issue? at the time of process kill, I noted, disk was 1 GB free and RAM was 100MB free
[13:45] <TJ-> bipul: No, just if you see a "grub" directory in the output... you can always explore it with, for example, "ls (hd0,msdosX)/grub/"
[13:45] <clabgin> I just see on scree "Killed"
[13:45] <clabgin> there is no more log, what can help me , TJ-
[13:46] <TJ-> clabgin: It could be the kernel OOM killer... check /var/log/kern.log
[13:46] <sparton> clabgin : whats the process trying to be run? bash script? script issue?
[13:46] <TJ-> clabgin: is this on a shared VPS host or dedicated hardware?
[13:46] <clabgin> sparton: python script, it loads somes samll images in memory and saves them in database
[13:48] <clabgin> TJ-: thanks a lot, it says Jul 23 10:40:33 trunk kernel: [72450750.133607] Out of memory: Kill process 933 (python) score 147 or sacrifice child
[13:48] <clabgin> Jul 23 10:40:33 trunk kernel: [72450750.133617] Killed process 933 (python) total-vm:733792kB, anon-rss:88116kB, file-rss:0kB
[13:48] <clabgin> so it is RAM issue?
[13:48] <TJ-> clabgin: There you go then, OOM killer
[13:49] <bipul> TJ-, See, i got a disk it is (hd0,msdos3), which contains the list of directory, with boot/ but not grub.
[13:49] <Atque> I want to buy an Ubuntu Phone.
[13:49] <Atque> Where can I get one because it is better than Android?
[13:49] <sparton> clabgin: how long dose the process run? enough to monitor its usage for a leak? typically python would complain if it was out of memory
[13:49] <TJ-> bipul: Does that hard disk also have Windows installed?
[13:49] <clabgin> TJ-: how can I get over this? by increasing RAM ??
[13:49] <bipul> May be, I do not know.
[13:49] <Novartis> Is there a better way to SSH into a VPS other than putty?
[13:50] <Atque> Novartis: You could use any other SSH client on the planet.
[13:50] <Novartis> What do you recommend Atque? :)
[13:50] <k1l> !phone | Atque
[13:50] <Novartis> I'm on Windows @Atque
[13:50] <TJ-> clabgin: the kernel says " total-vm:733792kB", that is 733MB
[13:50] <k1l> Novartis: use the "ssh" command on ubuntu
[13:50] <bipul> TJ-, does it matter, i mean if this external disk is having windows installed?
[13:51] <Atque> Novartis: I use terminal.app on OSX.
[13:51] <k1l> Novartis: well, for windows clients better ask the windows guys
[13:51] <Novartis> Haha, fair enough k1l, thank you :) And thanks Atque ^_^
[13:51] <tk1> hi
[13:51] <clabgin> TJ-: yes
[13:51] <genii> Atque: The Meizu MX3 phone and the BQ Aquaris phone may be soon shipping, they will be the first outside of Nexus that will run it.
[13:51] <bipul> TJ-, Please
[13:52] <TJ-> bipul: Windows has a "/boot/" directory ... so it is possible that is what you are seeing. It doesn't matter having Windows on there, I'm just trying to picture in my own head what the purpose of what you describe is, so as to locate (or not) the GRUB files.
[13:52] <bulletxt> hi, if I download from ubuntu packages the source of printer-driver-gutenprint , how can I build it with ubuntu specifics ? Like prefix and all the rest? Thanks a lot
[13:52] <tk1> i have mysql job running, but when i type "mysql" my terminal says mysql is not intalled o_O
[13:52] <olivier_bK> hy
[13:52] <genii> Atque: There is also the #ubuntu-touch channel to enquire in.
[13:52] <olivier_bK>  i try to find something like a post-it in linux but where you can create a task and click on the link for example 1 : do that    2 : do this etc...
[13:52] <olivier_bK> do you know where i can found it  ?
[13:52] <bipul> TJ-, So am i able to fix this issue or not?
[13:52] <TJ-> bipul: Right now it sounds as if the boot repair didn't re-install GRUB correctly to that disk. Do you have a bootable live ISO (maybe on USB) so you can fix it from the Live environment?
[13:53] <TJ-> bipul: It's always fixable :)
[13:53] <bipul> Yes i do have bootable CD of Ubuntu 14.04
[13:53] <bipul> But how about this External Disk SATA ? am i able to boot or not
[13:54] <jeffreylevesque_> I'm having diffulties setting up my ubuntu
[13:54] <ego_> http://www.beginlinux.com/server_training/server-managment-topics/1069-supergrub
[13:54] <jeffreylevesque_> could someone assist me?
[13:54] <TJ-> bipul: Let me explain the boot process, maybe that'll help you see where the missing bit is. Power-on > BIOS Power-On Self Test (POST) > sector 0 of 1st boot disk (Master Boot Record - MBR) > GRUB core image (sector #1 to ~sector #1024 - before the first partition) > looks for GRUB 'root' file-system which contains "/grub/grub.cfg" and all grub's executable modules > show grub menu > load OS.
[13:55] <jeffreylevesque_> I can boot from my ubuntu 14.04 that I just installed
[13:55] <jeffreylevesque_> https://github.com/jeff1evesque/audio-analyzer/issues/351#issuecomment-49870612
[13:55] <jeffreylevesque_> *can't boot
[13:55] <TJ-> bipul: You're seeing the rescue shell because it has loaded the core image but can't find GRUB's 'root' file-system with the other grub files on
[13:55] <tk1> anyone for mysql error ? :)
[13:55] <bipul> TJ-, do you have any document for that?
[13:55] <tk1> i have mysql job running, but when i type "mysql" my terminal says mysql is not intalled
[13:55] <TJ-> bipul: My head :)
[13:55] <bipul> hehehe
[13:55] <bipul> ok ok
[13:56] <ikonia> tk1: how do you have a mysql job running - what does this mean ?
[13:56] <bipul> You go ahead.
[13:56] <tk1> i mean i have mysql in the list of the running processes
[13:57] <ikonia> tk1: please show me in a pastebin
[13:57] <TJ-> bipul: So, when you are repairing a broken boot, "grub-install /dev/sda" will re-write ~400 bytes into sector 0 of the hard disk sda, *and* write the core image into the following sectors along with a variable (prefix) that tells it which partition  will contain the other grub files including grub.cfg.
[13:57] <bipul> ok
[13:57] <olivier_bK> maybe i found my solution tomboy
[13:57] <tk1> http://pastebin.com/da5dykNJ
[13:57] <TJ-> bipul: Running "update-grub" simply re-writes the files into the grub directory, which is usually at "/boot/grub/" in the root filesystem
[13:58] <TJ-> bipul: So, if you can boot the system from a Live ISO you can use the terminal to fix the problem, or use a more automated tool like boot-repair
[13:58] <ikonia> tk1: ps -ef | grep mysql in a pastebin please
[13:58] <tk1> i restart the mysql service, and it seems to be ok
[13:58] <tk1> ok
[13:59] <TJ-> bipul: If the system has other hard disks besides the external SATA it is possible that boot-repair and similar tools may be confused as to which drive to write the files to
[13:59] <tk1> http://pastebin.com/UEWK7RSB
[13:59] <ikonia> tk1: so that shows you have the server process running,
[13:59] <ikonia> tk1: if you do "which mysql" what do you get ?
[13:59] <tk1> i get nothing
[14:00] <bipul> ok
[14:00] <ikonia> !info mysql-client
[14:00] <ikonia> tk1: sudo apt-get install mysql-client
[14:01] <tk1> it says mysql-client is already up to date
[14:01] <ivebeenlinuxed> jeffreylevesque_: Is it a clean install?
[14:01] <bipul> got it
[14:01] <tk1> i have ubuntu precise
[14:02] <rannger> Hello,all
[14:03] <tk1> ikonia: could it be a matter of symbolic links with mysql ?
[14:03] <adsc> if I use LVM for formatting my disk (which is a vmware virtual disk), and later expand the size of this virtual disk, will I be able to expand the partition size as well?
[14:03] <gillesm> When I install ubuntu on uefi Asus  i get always uefi and not ubunut idea ?
[14:03] <tk1> when i type mysql and press two times tab, i get a big list of mysql things
[14:04] <tk1> so it seems to be into my system
[14:04] <TJ-> adsc: Interesting question... that would infer that the PV would grow and the VG be aware there are now more extents. You'd have to do a test on that.
[14:04] <TJ-> adsc: I doubt it though
[14:05] <Lingo4> klkl
[14:05] <TJ-> adsc: The usual method od expanding VGs is to add additional whole-disk devices as additional PVs into the VG
[14:05] <DaghdhaAFK> Hi, i have an autostarting znc daemon, i have no recollection how i did that. Where would i look to siable that?
[14:05] <ivebeenlinuxed> tk1: run "sudo dpkg -l mysql-client*" - which mysql-client packages are installed?
[14:08] <adsc> TJ-: I see...that would also be an option of course
[14:08] <tk1> k
[14:08] <tk1> http://pastebin.com/cArjiy5B
[14:08] <tk1> (messages are in french :D)
[14:09] <jelly-home> Hi, how do I remove all traces of ubuntu one from a 12.04 LTS laptop installation?  Something tells me One's going to shut down on June 1st 2014 every time I log in.
[14:09] <jelly-home> it's a bit annoying given it's July now
[14:10] <daftykins> jelly-home: can you use paste.ubuntu.com to paste the output of "dpkg -l | grep one"
[14:11] <ivebeenlinuxed> tk1: That looks good - lets check all your mysql packages "sudo dpkg -l mysql*"
[14:11] <daftykins> jelly-home: looks to be as simple as "sudo apt-get remove --purge ubuntuone-client"
[14:12] <tk1> ivebeenlinuxed: it returns that there is no package corresponding
[14:12] <raub> Where does "last" get the list of people who last logged in?
[14:12] <jelly-home> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7842143/
[14:12] <tk1> quite weird
[14:12] <jimi_hendrix> hi, i recently installed xubuntu and it cannot connect to the internet. it finds the networks in my area, then when i try to connect to one and provide the password, it waits a while then prompts me again. when i first installed it, i was able to connect to this network with the password provided. the password is correct.
[14:12] <raub> Found it. NVM
[14:13] <jelly-home> daftykins: sure, I could remove everything named ubuntuone\* but was hoping for a confirmation that's all there is
[14:13] <jimi_hendrix> right now i am on windows so i can use the internet, the side effect being that it will be hard to provide debug information.
[14:13] <Daghdha> Hi i am trying to find out where the auto starting znc is lokated but i can't find it.ANy tips? It was not in startup application preferences
[14:13] <ivebeenlinuxed> tk1: Try "sudo dpkg -l 'mysql*'" (single quotes)
[14:13] <tk1> ah yes, it returns this list
[14:13] <daftykins> jelly-home: just do as i mentioned above, it should be a meta package that takes the rest with it. give it a try first anyways
[14:15] <tk1> http://pastebin.com/7YCs9UEb
[14:16] <ivebeenlinuxed> tk1: That's all looking good - let me have a quick look through those packages for you and see where everything is - one sec
[14:16] <tk1> k thanks :)
[14:16] <jelly-home> daftykins: that would leave ubuntuone-control-panel-common and some other cruft http://paste.ubuntu.com/7842155/
[14:18] <daftykins> jelly-home: just see if the error still comes up then, no need to go any further in my opinion
[14:19] <jeffreylevesque_> I messed up installing Ubuntu 14.04.  I'd like to remove it, and start over - https://github.com/jeff1evesque/audio-analyzer/issues/351
[14:19] <jeffreylevesque_> could someone assist me?
[14:19] <jelly-home> daftykins: thanks, I'll see what happens next time
[14:19] <ivebeenlinuxed> tk1: Be back in 2 minutes - just going to see what the sales team next door is complaining about (the fun of being an IT manager!) sorry!
[14:19] <jeffreylevesque_> I can't boot into my original OS (windows 7).  It tries to boot into ubuntu but fails
[14:20] <tk1> :)
[14:21] <micmac> hi
[14:23] <Daghdha> ok i have found  /etc/init.d/znc  , now what do i do to make it not start at boot? Just remove it?
[14:24] <micmac> so I have an outdated server running ubuntu 11.10, and I'm willing to do an upgrade to 12.04 LTS. the server is in production, so i wish i could do this upgrade at night unattended.
[14:25] <micmac> I have read about the DistUpgradeViewNonInteractive flag which should agree to every default prompt
[14:25] <cfhowlett> micmac why not upgrade to 14.04 server?
[14:25] <micmac> is it possible directly from 11.10 ?
[14:25] <micmac> cfhowlett: ?
[14:25] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade|micmac
[14:25] <Pici> micmac: no. You'd need to upgrade to 12.04 first, regardless of what release you want to go to next.
[14:25] <micmac> ok, thought so
[14:26] <tykayn> re
[14:26] <tykayn> i am tk1 :)
[14:26] <micmac> I have many services, like dovecot, postfix, and so on with custom configuration (virtual aliases...), how can I know the upgrade will not break everything ?
[14:27] <cfhowlett> micmac might these types of questions be addressed in #ubuntu-server channel?
[14:27] <jamesbrown> hi guys i notice something. when i copy my folder from my usb to ubuntu  ALL my files had this permission -rwxr-----  but i want to change it to -rw-r--r--
[14:27] <jamesbrown> so how can i change all files to that?
[14:27] <micmac> cfhowlett: oh, ok then, sorry
[14:28] <jamesbrown> they are more files in other folders.
[14:28] <jamesbrown> which command will change all files to -rw-r--r--
[14:28] <rannger> Fhfdgv
[14:28] <ivebeenlinuxed> tk1: you still there?
[14:29] <renebarbosa> chmod 644 jamesbrown
[14:29] <cfhowlett> !info chmod
[14:29] <Pici> !permissions
[14:31] <jamesbrown> okay i just notice something which i thing is weird
[14:31] <jamesbrown> i did this chmod o+r index.php
[14:31] <jamesbrown> and it works
[14:33] <ivebeenlinuxed> tk1: You have two options - try "dpkg --reconfigure mysql-client-core-5.5" or ("apt-get purge mysql-client-core-5.5" "apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client" - NOTE this will remove MySQL server!!!!! Backup your data!!!!)
[14:33] <ivebeenlinuxed> tykayn: ?
[14:38] <rawrmonster> I have paid for amnesia back in 2012 and i Just did a reinstall yesterday but I can not install the game. It says it is not available for my current ubuntu version. Is there a way to fix this? Is it just missing a lib?
[14:40] <cfhowlett> rawrmonster what is the output of this terminal command: cat /etc/issue
[14:42] <Daghdha> Sometimes when i abort a shutdown the windows manager is already killed by ubunty and i am left with a black screen and amouse cursor. Is there anyway to do a reboot from that screen?
[14:42] <Daghdha> Now i just ssh in and reboot with commandline
[14:42] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, i get Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[14:42] <ObrienDave> what does that mean?
[14:43] <cfhowlett> obelix_ it means you're running ubuntu 14.04.1
[14:43] <ivebeenlinuxed> tk1: Off now - if you did get the message before, hope it helped
[14:43] <AaronMT> !edgy
[14:43] <obelix_> mmm
[14:43] <obelix_> i am not
[14:44] <ObrienDave> obelix_, typo meant for me
[14:44] <obelix_> just manage several servers running ubuntu
[14:44] <ivebeenlinuxed> tykayn
[14:49] <pbx> Gnome Do is being flaky about remembering its invocation shortcut. seems unlikely this is a bug, but what in my setup might be interfering? fresh 14.04 install, up to date, latest gnome do via apt-get
[14:50] <rawrmonster> cfhowlett: sorry had to open up my job " Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l"
[14:50] <cfhowlett> rawrmonster any error messages during the failed installation of the amnesia game?
[14:51] <okdamn> Hi!
[14:51] <okdamn> can i install ubuntu on a macosx partition?
[14:51] <rawrmonster> cfhowlett: It wont let me install it. I am the button is not active to install
[14:52] <cfhowlett> rawrmonster where did you get this game?  it's no in the software center
[14:52] <ivebeenlinuxed> okdamn: do you mean how to do I install ubuntu alongside OSX on a mac?
[14:53] <DJones> rawrmonster: Just as a thought, in teh File Menu, is there an option to "Reinstall all purchases"
[14:53] <okdamn> ivebeenlinuxed:  what that means sorry im not english
[14:53] <rawrmonster> DJones: thats where i am but i cant install the game. It says it does not support my ubuntu version
[14:54] <rawrmonster> cfhowlett: I got it from ubuntu software center
[14:54] <ivebeenlinuxed> okdamn: do a normal partitioned install, then install rEFInd to give you a boot manager
[14:54] <cfhowlett> rawrmonster not an ubuntu problem - gotta take it up with the game provider.
[14:55] <okdamn> ivebeenlinuxed:  so i just need a new partition and ubuntu will install on it?
[14:55] <okdamn> how to format the partition?
[14:55] <chro> how can I increase the maximum number of tcp connections allowed to a server?
[14:57] <okdamn> #macosx
[14:57] <adsc> are you sure it's server-capped?
[14:57] <cfhowlett> !mac
[14:57] <adsc> usually, it's a router issue
[14:57] <adsc> some consumer level routers have pretty low open connection  limits
[14:58] <funkylab> !GNURadio
[14:58] <funkylab> !help
[14:58] <ikonia> ?
[15:00] <DJones> rawagner: I wish I could suggest something, from what I can see, it should show up in software centre but doesn't for me
[15:01] <cfhowlett> DJones same here.  that's why I asked where he was getting it from
[15:04] <pbx> any other gnome do users find that it doesn't remember its invocation key?
[15:04] <ikonia> invocation key ?
[15:05] <pbx> ikonia, preferences > keyboard > summon do
[15:07] <fAz4> In task bar i open new nautilus window using Files icon when i click on it again it opens another one ? why it doesn't show the first Nautilus window ever ?
[15:07] <fAz4> does anyone with the same problem  ?
[15:07] <fAz4> I'm on unity
[15:08] <clevas> I'd like to know if anyone actually successfully installed ubuntu along side win 8.1 without corrupting the mbr
[15:08] <cfhowlett> clevas yes
[15:08] <clevas> followed tutorials and shit and corrupted it every time
[15:12] <hnlin> clevas, are you sure that you have a mbr rather than a (U)EFI/ GPT  based system
[15:13] <cfhowlett> hnlin actually, if he's got win 8.1 it's virtually certain to be EFI
[15:14] <hnlin> cfhowlett, how so, he might have upgraded from win7 >> win8
[15:15] <To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne> hi, I am trying to setup rsnapshot to have daily (nightly) backups
[15:15] <To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne> could someone provide me a little guidance?
[15:15] <funkylab> cfhowlett: anyway, has anyone successfully made win8/EFI boot from grub, or boot grub from the windows EFI bootloader?
[15:16] <maxvi> when will ubuntu phone be released?
[15:16] <hnlin> funkylab, yes, I have
[15:16] <funkylab> hnlin: nice; did you have to hand-tweak stuff or did the installer take care of everything
[15:16] <cfhowlett> maxvi there is no "ubuntu" phone.  there are OEM's which will release their phones with ubuntu touch - when they're ready
[15:17] <clevas> hnlin it's definately not UEFI
[15:17] <clevas> I made sure
[15:17] <hnlin> funkylab, it was a virtual nightmare, involving lots of EFI hacking, I have a Sony Vaio Pro 13
[15:17] <clevas> It's an older dell
[15:18] <hnlin> funkylab, it took me about a week's work, no kidding.
[15:18] <maxvi> cfhowlett: did they announce some dates?
[15:18] <cfhowlett> maxvi "when it's done" ... sorry.
[15:19] <cfhowlett> maxvi meizu was one of the companies involved.  If you can read mandarin, perhaps you'll find info from their site
[15:19] <hnlin> cfhowlett, link please?
[15:20] <hnlin> to meizu^
[15:20] <cfhowlett> hnlin http://www.meizu.com/
[15:20] <hnlin> Thank you ^_^
[15:20] <cfhowlett> hnlin happy2help
[15:21] <Ziber> So, I have a basic Ubuntu server install (in a Xen VM), and I want to increase the HD capacity. The Xen host gives disks to the VMs via LVM, and I've lvextended it. But I can't figure out how to get the VM to recognize the bigger disk.
[15:22] <funkylab> hnlin: I know your pain; as a fedora guy, I first try to convince anaconda to do what I want (the fedora installer), but soon gave up and realized I had to hand tweak
[15:22] <funkylab> hnlin: then I realized that I was doing this in my overtime, so I just annihilated everything and switched to MBR
[15:23] <funkylab> 1h later, windows was running, and a subtle 8min later, my linux was running, updated and had all the software I wanted
[15:23] <funkylab> and that was my brief re-excourse into the exiting world of windows installation
[15:23] <hnlin> funkylab, I considered doing this, but the special extensions by Sony (necessary to detect some hardware) require a EFI/GPT boot process.
[15:24] <To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne> hi, I am trying to setup rsnapshot to have daily (nightly) backups. Could someone provide me a little guidance?
[15:24] <funkylab> hnlin: :/
[15:25] <funkylab> !patience
[15:25] <hnlin> funkylab, but I have won in the end, Ubuntu 14.04 runs and every bit of hardware works.
[15:25] <Novartis> how do I give a user sudo power?
[15:26] <funkylab> Novartis: add him to the right group
[15:26] <hnlin> Novartis, by adding that user to the group sudoers
[15:26] <cfhowlett> Novartis add him to the sudo user gropu
[15:26] <cfhowlett> *group*
[15:26] <To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne> funkylab the idea is to ask for people just joining in
[15:26] <To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne> if I felt ignored I would cy on my corner :p
[15:26] <funkylab> :)
[15:26] <funkylab> To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne: I'd love to help you, but I know nothing about rshnapshot
[15:27] <To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne> I am fine with other backup programs
[15:28] <FD225> hello guys...how to clean ubunto?
[15:29] <Novartis> Where is /usr/bin?
[15:29] <pyoor> Hi all.  Does anyone know if there's a way to modify wake from suspend so that it only wakes when the lid is opened?
[15:29] <cfhowlett> FD225 "clean"????
[15:29] <FD225> yes..
[15:29] <cfhowlett> FD225 your question makes no sense.  explain.  details.
[15:30] <FD225> do i need to clean linux like windows?
[15:30] <cfhowlett> FD225 no.
[15:30] <pbx> FD225, no
[15:30] <To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne> linux comes clean
[15:30] <FD225> what about history?
[15:30] <cfhowlett> !antivirus| FD225
[15:31] <To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne> history? like webhistory
[15:31] <ObrienDave> FD225, Linux is not Windows
[15:31] <To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne> thats a browser thing
[15:31] <cfhowlett> FD225 ??? edit your firefox preferences and to zero history.
[15:31] <Novartis> Hey guys, where is /usr/bin?
[15:31] <To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne> ObrienDave I am also told Windows isnt Linux. Is there truth to it?
[15:31] <ObrienDave> Novartis, that is a directort
[15:31] <Novartis> in root?
[15:31] <ObrienDave> * directory
[15:32] <ObrienDave> from root,  yet
[15:32] <ObrienDave> *yes
[15:32] <Novartis> When I ls I don't see it :/
[15:32] <OerHeks> There is a tool called bleachit, but i didn't need it sofar
[15:32] <FD225> ok thks...
[15:32] <cfhowlett> Novartis run the command ls /usr
[15:32] <OerHeks> !bleachit
[15:33] <OerHeks> !info bleachit
[15:33] <ObrienDave> To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne, yes, Windows is not Linux
[15:33] <OerHeks> oh gone, good
[15:33] <Novartis> Ahh thanks cfhowlett, it is hidden?
[15:33] <cfhowlett> Novartis nope
[15:34] <OerHeks> Novartis, open Nautilus, it showes your /home/, press 'computer' on the left panel, and you go to / were /usr/bin is
[15:34] <fnunes> Hi all. Need some help to repair a partition table or the boot sector. The problem is that I installed windows 8.1 and all went ok. Had an extended partition for data. Now I wanted to install Debian to dualboot with windows 8.1. It happens that neither the Debian installer neither the Ubuntu installer neither the boot-repair-disk neither the GParted live can see any partitions. Tried booting from a windows installation disk and execu
[15:35] <fnunes> found. At least the data partition is vital to be recovered. I appreciate any help. Thanks.
[15:35] <FD225> guys..i have 64bit linux..when i install skype it says ' does not match my 64bit  system '..some tips guys..
[15:35] <hnlin> Gotta go home, Novartis, FD225, To_Aru_Shiroi_Ne, good luck in resolving your issues. cfhowlett, thank you for the Kylin link, it help to resolve the jumbled mess of mixed-up languages in the UI.
[15:36] <cfhowlett> hnlin happy2help
[15:36] <mbeierl> I have a problem with a brand new ubuntustudio install.  Is that supported here?
[15:36] <fnunes> Meanwhile the boot-repair gave this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7842422 .
[15:37] <bcvery> mbeierl, you might want to try #ubuntustudio
[15:38] <bcvery> FD225, how are you installing?
[15:38] <cfhowlett> mbeierl bring it to #ubuntustudio
[15:38] <mbeierl> bcvery: cfhowlett, thanks
[15:38] <FD225> after downloading..terminal dpkg -i
[15:38] <ikonia> nope
[15:39] <ikonia> shouldn't be don't dpkg -i
[15:39] <Novartis> Oerheks What's Nautilus?
[15:39] <OerHeks> Novartis, it is your standard filebrowser
[15:39] <Novartis> Oh
[15:39] <Novartis> I'm running on a VPS
[15:40] <compdoc> so youre running command line only?
[15:41] <Novartis> Yup
[15:43] <fnunes> Is there a channel for support ? Installation and boot repairs ?
[15:44] <cfhowlett> fnunes this is the channel.
[15:45] <catalase> can anyone here help me with an ubuntu networking issue
[15:45] <cfhowlett> !ask | catalase
[15:45] <catalase> according to #httpd, my apache2 server is properly configured. but i cannot access https. i have setup virtual hosts for port 443 and forwarded this to my server on my router
[15:46] <fnunes> Need some help to repair a partition table or the boot sector. The problem is that I installed windows 8.1 and all went ok. Had an extended partition for data. Now I wanted to install Debian to dualboot with windows 8.1. It happens that neither the Debian installer neither the Ubuntu installer neither the boot-repair-disk neither the GParted live can see any partitions. Tried booting from a windows installation disk and executing boo
[15:46] <fnunes> found. At least the data partition is vital to be recovered. I appreciate any help. Thanks. Meanwhile the boot-repair gave this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7842422 .
[15:47] <fnunes> My computer is like 5 years old and the mobo is prior to UEFI.
[15:48] <Lingo4> yahalou: hi
[15:49] <catalase> !patience
[15:51] <mbeierl>  New installation of Ubuntustudio 14.04.  / is on btrfs, /home is on ext4.  Installation finished, but on reboot when I log in as the user I created during installation, the X session terminates and I am punted back to GDM.  I can log in with user/pass from tty1.  auth.log shows "PAM unable to dlopen (pam_kwallet.so)" and requirement "user ingroup nopasswdlogin" not met by user.  Guest login works.  Add user with useradd, and same problem occurs.
[15:53] <mbeierl> Additional info:  I have re-installed, with format of /, with same result.
[15:53] <OerHeks> mbeierl, why btrfs?
[15:54] <mbeierl> OerHeks: I used it before in 13.04 and thought it was the direction things were headed.  From the looks of it, it seemed to be a performance improvement over ext4
[15:54] <mbeierl> OerHeks: can try again with ext4 for /...
[15:55] <ukaz> cave resolve -c world
[15:58] <fhfeife2> i'm running update-rc.d and want my script to start later in the boot process as the ip i need to bind to isn't up yet
[15:59] <fhfeife2> is there something i can set?
[16:04] <TJ-> fhfeife2: It's a sysV init not upstart script?
[16:08] <genoobie> hey all
[16:08] <genoobie> new to linux so I'm asking for a bit of help
[16:09] <genoobie> just installed ubuntu on a second laptop, and no wireless
[16:09] <genoobie> trying to diagnose
[16:09] <cfhowlett> !wifi| genoobie
[16:09] <genoobie> trying to diagnose
[16:09] <kdz> helo, i havea mount error :<
[16:09] <yecril71pl> Hello, my Dash never shows anything
[16:09] <kdz> cannot mount / its said
[16:09] <michaelaguiar> In ProFTPD, is there a way to set DefaultRoot in the config, on a per user basis?
[16:10] <yecril71pl> kdz: who says this?
[16:10] <kdz> on my screen yecril71pl, then it said press or m of manual
[16:10] <kdz> so i pressed M and console screen loaded
[16:11] <michaelaguiar> So like I have , if user [16:11] <TJ-> kdz: That sounds like the PC is stuck in the initial RAM disk  (initrd), and will probably drop to a terminal if it can't find the root file-system
[16:11] <yecril71pl> kdz: what kind of screen?
[16:11] <Eric^^> fsck time?
[16:11] <kdz> how do i fix it TJ- ?
[16:12] <TJ-> kdz: How did this come about? Is this the first boot since installing Ubuntu? Have you recently done package updates on an existing installation?
[16:12] <kdz> i messed around with fstab the other day trying to auto mount some drives
[16:12] <kdz> and from then on it just wont boot into ubuntu
[16:12] <TJ-> kdz: That'd do it :)
[16:12] <kdz> i dont know how to fix it back :<
[16:13] <bwlang> ps aux is hanging after 50 or 60 lines... load average is 60 (32 core server) but i can't see the trouble makers.  any ideas?
[16:13] <TJ-> kdz: can you show us what "cat /proc/cmdline" shows ?
[16:13] <kdz> ok let me type it
[16:14] <ikonia> kdz: as suggested to you yesterday, as you have no idea what you've done to your disks, and you claim gparted has done things that are impossible I'd suggest re-installing to get back to a known "good" state
[16:14] <TJ-> ikonia: This is a known issue then?
[16:14] <ikonia> kdz: you've been at this for over 24 hours now and don't appear to be going forward and as the history of this damage is unknown and questionable a re-install to a stable sane point would be wise
[16:14] <Eric^^> bwlang: try top?
[16:14] <ikonia> TJ-: very much so, gparted changed his fstab and put usernames in it and many other thigns that can't happen
[16:14] <TJ-> ikonia: Ahhh... those darned gremlins :p
[16:14] <ikonia> TJ-: but he doesn't know what he did - he clicked buttons that don't exist on gparted etc etc
[16:15] <ikonia> so trying to work backwards from the "unknown" and the "untrusted" seems unwise
[16:15] <kdz> TJ- is ikonia typing somethuing? its on igore for critising me other tham helping
[16:15] <ikonia> as even fixing something by guess won't fix the rest / knock on changes
[16:15] <ikonia> the fact that he's just claimed I'm ignore when it's clear I'm not
[16:16] <Eric^^> cant he run genfstab ?
[16:16] <ikonia> Eric^^: the point is, it's not just fstab
[16:16] <TomAstro> Hello,  Is there a channel for Vinux?  I have a friend that is visually impaired and he is having issues with the latest install and also he is looking for a good talking clock..   Thanks
[16:16] <ikonia> Eric^^: it's created a system where partitions have changed/destructive and the steps he claimed did this are impossible/don't exist
[16:16] <Eric^^> i see
[16:16] <TJ-> kdz: If you've caused unknown regressions to the system then the best solution is to reinstall either alongside the existing installation, or replacing (wiping) it entirely
[16:17] <fhfeife2> TJ: i'm using SysV on older ubuntu release
[16:17] <yecril71pl> Hello, my Dash is empty.
[16:17] <daftykins> TomAstro: never heard of it, but we only support ubuntu here. not even any other distros that might base themselves from it
[16:17] <fhfeife2> TJ: i want my script to be the last thing that starts
[16:17] <mpaolino> hi guys, I would need some help with polkit. I want to overwrite permissions for org.libvirt.unix.manage, so I created a new pkla file in "/etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d"
[16:17] <Guest16209> I'm back with the partial installation (half-installed) of wine problem.  I'm still looking for help to fix it
[16:17] <dannydaft> Hey guys.
[16:17] <kdz> TJ- thats alot of work, i have vm's and got it nicely running
[16:17] <mpaolino> but actually it doesn't work
[16:17] <dannydaft> Anybody want to grab some lunch?
[16:17] <Guest16209> dannydaft: Hey, Danny
[16:17] <mpaolino> I'm not a polkit expert...any idead about how to debug this?
[16:18] <Eric^^> kdz: you can back everything up.
[16:18] <Eric^^> VM's are in ~/VirtualBox VMs (if you're using VirtualBox)
[16:18] <ikonia> dannydaft: this channel isn't a "social" channel, so please try to focus on the channels topic, which is ubuntu
[16:18] <kdz> shouldnt this be a mount issue?
[16:18] <mpaolino> I've tried to use pkactions --verbose, but the permessions are always the same, unchanged
[16:19] <TJ-> fhfeife2: The usual way is to change the 'NN' passed to 'update-rc.d' to make it start after other services... You can also write an LSB-style "Required-Start:" entry into the init script like, for example, "/etc/init.d/apache2" has to influence things
[16:19] <dannydaft> ikonia: No reason to not be friendly though ;)
[16:19] <TomAstro> daftykins:  Is there a version or a way to set Ubuntu up for someone that is visually impaired?  He is having an issue as some may have getting the video to work when installing it from the dvd but the usb install works.  His wife is trying to help him set this up.
[16:20] <kdz> dannydaft : agreed
[16:20] <ikonia> dannydaft: sure you can be friendly, but this is IRC, so people are not going to "join you for lunch"
[16:20] <Guest16209> Anyone wanna help me fix my problem - I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 lts and have a half-installed installation of wine / wine1.6.  I need closure ...
[16:20] <cfhowlett> dannydaft perhaps you'd be happier in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:20] <reisio> Guest16209: what'd you install it for?
[16:20] <fhfeife2> TJ: yea- i'm not understanding what I should set NN to. i had it set to 20, but it appears to still not be the last thing that starts as one of my ip addresses isn't up yet
[16:20] <kdz> TJ- do you have some suggestions for me ?
[16:20] <TJ-> dannydaft: think about it this way, if all 1614 people in this channel asked if anyone was up for lunch, we'd not get any support done :) Try #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:21] <fhfeife2> TJ: the ip address might not be up yet because i hacked it together in some other script (ops)
[16:21] <dannydaft> ikonia: Haha. Just jesting mate. I know nobody’s actually going to go to lunch with me.
[16:21] <TJ-> fhfeife2: Maybe move it to something like 60 or even 90 ?
[16:21] <fhfeife2> TJ: thanks for the suggestion i'll try it..
[16:22] <Guest16209> reisio: I have some programs that I need to use that work in the Windows context
[16:22] <TJ-> kdz: Back-up and do a fresh install... if you don't have the sysadmin skills to undo what ever you did originally, no one else can really get a handle on it over IRC.
[16:22] <genoobie> okay
[16:22] <reisio> Guest16209: which programs?
[16:22] <catalase> can someone tell me why SSH keeps connecting on 1030 and 1024, when i explicitly tell it to connect via 22 and it is enabled in 22 in UFW and forwarded on my router?
[16:22] <reisio> catalase: explicitly tell it how
[16:23] <catalase> in PuTTY i tell it connect to mydomain:22
[16:23] <TJ-> catalase: Connecting *to*, or connecting *from* that port?
[16:23] <mbeierl>  New installation of Ubuntustudio 14.04.  /  and /home are ext4 fs.  Installation finished, but on reboot when I log in as the user I created during installation, the X session terminates and I am punted back to GDM.  I can log in with user/pass from tty1.  auth.log shows "PAM unable to dlopen (pam_kwallet.so)" and requirement "user ingroup nopasswdlogin" not met by user.  Guest login works.  Add user with useradd, and same problem occurs.
[16:23] <catalase> TJ-, reisio, i do netstat -l -a
[16:23] <mbeierl> OerHeks: btrfs vs. ext4 makes no difference.
[16:23] <Guest16209> reisio: Is it relevant?  My problem is that the wine / wine1.6 partial installation is preventing me from installing and/or removing things, of doing a system update, etc
[16:23] <catalase> and it shows SSH, 1024 lol
[16:23] <cfhowlett> mbeierl ##linux might also be worth a a visit
[16:23] <reisio> Guest16209: only if you want the best assistance...
[16:23] <TJ-> catalase: 1024 is the first of the ephemeral ports, where clients will start off from
[16:24] <TomAstro> OK  going to go at a different approach to my question.  Is anyone here familiar with setting up Ubuntu for the visually impaired?
[16:24] <reisio> Guest16209: I could give you more vague, less useful assistance if you like :p
[16:24] <reisio> Guest16209: are they top secret programs? :p
[16:24] <fhfeife2> TJ: think another hack should fix it... going to just add the app i want to start after the place i put the stuff to set the ip...
[16:24] <reisio> I'm not saying that isn't a possibility, but it isn't what I'd assume
[16:24] <TJ-> fhfeife2: If it really becomes a problem you might have to start it from "/etc/rc.local"
[16:25] <Guest16209> reisio: I haven't had the possibility to install any Windows programs, so the reason for Wine is really relevant only after programs are installed or used with wine.
[16:25] <catalase> TJ-, what does that mean lol
[16:25] <reisio> Guest16209: ...wha?
[16:25] <catalase> TJ-, if i explicitly state that i want to connect via 22, would it not then connect via 22?
[16:25] <TJ-> catalase: You are running "netstat" on the SSH server ?
[16:25] <reisio> Guest16209: either you're willing to tell me what programs you're talking about or you're not; let me know which it is and we'll continue
[16:25] <catalase> yes
[16:25] <catalase> netstat -l -a
[16:26] <catalase> and i see, tcp        0      0 localip:ssh       wan-ip:1030 ESTABLISHED
[16:26] <catalase> but SSH is port 22?
[16:26] <TJ-> catalase: And what is wrong with that?
[16:26] <catalase> idk, should it not then read 22?
[16:26] <TJ-> catalase: the server is listening on port 22 (ssh)
[16:26] <catalase> yes
[16:27] <TJ-> catalase: The client is using its ephemeral ports (starting at 1024 through 65535)
[16:27] <fhfeife2> TJ: problem solved... it's my own undoing. i should have figured out how to bring the ip address up properly. in fact i think i know how to do that already. it's just a matter of modifying the /etc/network file or something like that. why i did it this weird way i don't know.
[16:27] <TJ-> fhfeife2: I think it takes us being silly to learn much though... so you now know more tricks :)
[16:28] <fhfeife2> TJ: to think the reason i hacked it together before was to save myself the time an energy of thinking it through
[16:28] <Guest16209> reisio: When you install Ubuntu, you have some programs included in the OS.  So it is with Wine, I imagine.  I had considered using Nero to burn a video DVD because I have videos that need conversion to go on a video dvd.  I haven't yet been able to try Nero because wine is not completely installed.
[16:28] <Eric^^> do it right or do it twice ;-)
[16:29] <reisio> Guest16209: okay
[16:29] <reisio> Guest16209: if you run 'ls -a ~/ | grep -i wine', you will probably see a directory like '.wine'
[16:29] <reisio> Guest16209: that is your Wine filesystem
[16:29] <Guest16209> reisio: Nero isn't installed anywhere, so I don't see the relevance, personally, but since you needed a program name
[16:29] <reisio> Guest16209: you can rm/mv it as you please, re-running 'wine' will regenerate a fresh copy
[16:30] <reisio> Guest16209: I would not use Nero, though, there are much better (native) apps
[16:30] <reisio> Guest16209: the relevance is this: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=152
[16:30] <Guest16209> Brasero and K3B haven't succeeded
[16:30] <reisio> Guest16209: and also, again, that I'd suggest other apps
[16:30] <reisio> Guest16209: well dvd video transcoding (and burning, too), is quite a complex process
[16:30] <reisio> Guest16209: I honestly wouldn't recommend it at all, this being the 21st century
[16:30] <reisio> Guest16209: but if you had to do it, I suggest using tovid
[16:31] <liquidAnger> is there a command to ignore these system messages of irc ... has joined, left etcc.
[16:32] <Eric^^> liquidAnger: global menu > settings > text events
[16:32] <reisio> liquidAnger: /help
[16:32] <vieira> Hello, how can I make a init script start after an upstart job?
[16:32] <reisio> liquidAnger: or ask #irssi
[16:32] <mbeierl> Tried installing kwallet and adding user to nopasswdlogin and still cannot log in to GUI in new ubuntustudio 14.04 install.\
[16:32] <liquidAnger> reisio: tnx
[16:32] <vieira> postfix seems to be stuck in the sysvinit days
[16:33] <derrzzaa> I have a load of NTFS drives, all with stuff I don't want to / can't format.  Is NTFS support sufficient enough to use Ubuntu / linux in general with these drives?
[16:33] <derrzzaa> or would I be walking down a road I'd later come to regret
[16:33] <Guest16209> reisio: I have no .wine directory
[16:34] <cfhowlett> derrzzaa you can use it, but I'd back up my back ups to a safe backup
[16:34] <derrzzaa> mmmm, I mean tbh the data isnt that important
[16:34] <daftykins> TomAstro: sorry i have no experience of that
[16:34] <derrzzaa> films etc, it's more the hassel I'm trying to save
[16:35] <derrzzaa> then again, I could just buy a 4TB drive and format them all to whatever file system is best to use on linux
[16:35] <Guest16209> BRB everyone
[16:35] <Guest16209> bye for now
[16:35] <derrzzaa> ext4* ?
[16:37] <yecril71pl> What is gnome-menu-edit?  I do not seem to have it
[16:38] <yecril71pl> Oops, retry: What is gmenu-simple-editor?  I do not seem to have it.
[16:39] <OerHeks> !info gmenu-simple-editor
[16:39] <liquidAnger> to hide system messages IRC http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/hide_join_part_messages#irssi
[16:40] <genoobie> hey
[16:40] <genoobie> my ath5k is "blocked"
[16:41] <genoobie> rfkill list shows it as "hard blocked"
[16:41] <phoo> Hello!  How do I disable the middle mouse click menu in xfce4-terminal?  I want to keep middle mouse paste, but I often have the time when a new terminal opens in addition to the paste.
[16:41] <TJ-> genoobie: toggle the hardware radio switch
[16:41] <genoobie> TJ-, doesn't change the state
[16:42] <TJ-> genoobie: hmmm, is it one of those Fn+F2 types, or a physical slider on the side?
[16:42] <genoobie> no
[16:42] <genoobie> button at the top
[16:42] <genoobie> next to the power button
[16:42] <genoobie> I once had an issue with this
[16:42] <TJ-> genoobie: That's strange, usually they don't require key event support... what is the make/model of the laptop?
[16:42] <genoobie> used rfkill in seemingly random order
[16:43] <genoobie> cq50-105NR compaq
[16:45] <TJ-> genoobie: I think you need to add "nohwcrypt" to the module options for ath5k
[16:45] <genoobie> oh, hrm
[16:45] <genoobie> not really sure what that means (kind of new to this)
[16:45] <kdz> so without me havint to reinstall what can i do to fix a unable to mount /
[16:45] <genoobie> I know the ath5k is the driver
[16:46] <genoobie> not sure how to "add" that and reapply driver
[16:46] <TJ-> genoobie: try this: "sudo modprobe -r ath5k" then "lsmod | grep ath5k" ... if you get no 'ath5k' listed, good, go on and do "sudo modprobe ath5k nohwcrypt" then try the Wifi again
[16:46] <genoobie> okay
[16:47] <genoobie> TJ-, YES!
[16:47] <genoobie> wait
[16:47] <phoo> hm.  Never mind.  I think it's this mouse smashing the right button at the same time as the middle button.
[16:47] <genoobie> sweet both "unblocked!
[16:47] <TJ-> genoobie: OK, now we know the solution, you need to make it permanent in the system configuration
[16:47] <genoobie> how do I make that permanent
[16:47] <genoobie> nice, thanks
[16:48] <genoobie> what did you search or google to come up with that.
[16:48] <TJ-> genoobie: "echo "options ath5k nohwcrypt" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/ath5k.conf"
[16:48] <TJ-> genoobie: long experience :)
[16:48] <genoobie> use all quotes?
[16:48] <genoobie> TJ-, thanks again for sharing your expertise
[16:49] <TJ-> genoobie: I surround the commands to type with double-quotes... everything inside those... you type
[16:49] <genoobie> do I need to sudo the echo command?
[16:49] <TJ-> genoobie: *everything* as I show it
[16:49] <genoobie> :) okay
[16:50] <alami> hello, i have append this www-data ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/asterisk -rx 'dialplan reload' to visudo
[16:50] <alami> so that www-data can excute this cmd, is that correct?
[16:50] <genoobie> TJ-, okay
[16:50] <genoobie> so that's permanent?
[16:50] <genoobie> what is tee?
[16:50] <TJ-> genoobie: Yes
[16:51] <TJ-> genoobie: "man tee"
[16:51] <genoobie> text editor?
[16:51] <genoobie> okay, that rocks, I'm going to reboot
[16:51] <TJ-> genoobie: It reads standard input, and writes it to standard output (the console) *and* a file
[16:53] <genoobie> okay
[16:53] <genoobie> didn't persist
[16:53] <genoobie> hwblock
[16:54] <TJ-> genoobie: Hmmm, maybe the file didn't get written correctly... lets check... "grep ath5k /etc/modprobe.d/*"
[16:56] <TJ-> genoobie: how many lines are returned by that command?
[16:57] <genoobie> TJ-, two lines are returned by that grep
[16:57] <TJ-> genoobie: can you tell me what each says?
[16:57] <genoobie> options ath5k nowecrypt
[16:57] <kdz> TJ- so im bcking up but i cannot backup my vm's cause of permissions, how do i change it
[16:57] <genoobie> then a commented line,"# which ath5k cannot recover. to prevent this ..."
[16:58] <genoobie> let me try those modprobes again
[16:58] <TJ-> genoobie: OK, so did you typo in IRC or does it really say "nowecrypt"
[16:59] <genoobie> typo in IRC
[16:59] <TJ-> genoobie: darn, that could have been an easy fix :)
[17:00] <genoobie> ugh
[17:00] <genoobie> why did it unblock one time but not the other
[17:00] <genoobie> let me tell you what I did
[17:01] <genoobie> I did "sudo modprobe -r ath5k"
[17:01] <genoobie> "sudo modprobe ath5k"
[17:01] <TJ-> genoobie: which removes the kernel module
[17:01] <genoobie> now both unblocked
[17:01] <TJ-> genoobie: which loads the kernel module :)
[17:01] <genoobie> and now it's unblocked
[17:01] <kirijaaas> привет
[17:02] <genoobie> TJ-, it's like the button has no effect at all
[17:02] <genoobie> doesn't turn it on or off
[17:02] <genoobie> I also had some rfkill unblock 0 0 in there
[17:02] <TJ-> genoobie: maybe it's a 'soft' button that just sends an event to the OS, but Linux doesn't know the event or how to handle it
[17:02] <genoobie> but I always did rfkill list and it always came up hard blocked until I did the modprobes
[17:02] <kirijaaas> hi gyest
[17:03] <TJ-> genoobie: Can't explain why the reboot loading of the ath5k module would leave it hardblocked, but a modprobe will work
[17:04] <TJ-> genoobie: I notice the ath5k module also has another parameter: "no_hw_rfkill_switch"
[17:04] <TJ-> genoobie: "no_hw_rfkill_switch:Ignore the GPIO RFKill switch state (bool)"
[17:04] <genoobie> yes yes yes
[17:04] <TJ-> genoobie: You could try using "no_hw_rfkill_switch=1"
[17:05] <genoobie> so how do I remove the line I placed in the .conf file using "tee"
[17:05] <genoobie> and put that in there instead
[17:05] <genoobie> and set it up so it's always on
[17:05] <TJ-> genoobie: "sudo sed -i 's/nohwcrypt/no_hw_rfkill_switch=1/' /etc/modprobe.d/ath5k.conf"
[17:06] <genoobie> won't that leave the "nohwcrypt" line in there though?
[17:06] <genoobie> okay nevermind I trust you know what you're doing :)
[17:06] <TJ-> genoobie: It's a search-and-replace operation
[17:07] <TJ-> genoobie: s/find-this/replace-with-this/
[17:07] <genoobie> and that's the number 1 not the letter l
[17:07] <genoobie> I'm assuming 1 is true here
[17:07] <TJ-> genoobie: correct
[17:08] <genoobie> okay no output
[17:08] <TJ-> genoobie: none expected
[17:08] <TJ-> genoobie: "cat /etc/modprobe.d/ath5k.conf"
[17:08] <genoobie> ugh
[17:08] <genoobie> hold a sec
[17:09] <genoobie> still the same, did not replace
[17:09] <genoobie> let me check the input again
[17:09] <Monotoko> Is there a hotkey I can use to toggle "Auto Hide Sidebar"?
[17:10] <genoobie> sudo sed -i 's/nohwcrypt/no_hw_rfkill_switch=1/' /etc/modprobe.d/ath5k.conf
[17:10] <Monotoko> or move the sidebar to the other side...
[17:10] <Monotoko> either one
[17:11] <genoobie> TJ-, looks ok?
[17:11] <genoobie> should I just text edit with a gui?
[17:11] <TJ-> genoobie: Looks good but yes, you can edit it with a text editor too :)
[17:11] <Monotoko> I use synergy... so when it's switching between the left screen and right screen, the auto-show doesn't work...
[17:12] <genoobie> TJ-, there's only one line in ath5k.conf
[17:12] <genoobie> is that OK?
[17:12] <TJ-> genoobie: correct
[17:13] <TJ-> genoobie: "options ath5k no_hw_rfkill_switch=1"
[17:14] <genoobie> ugh
[17:14] <genoobie> cannot open file to write
[17:14] <hamilcart>  
[17:14] <genoobie> must be some kind of permission in text edit
[17:14] <Monotoko> :(
[17:14] <Monotoko> should I be asking somewhere else?
[17:14] <genoobie> TJ-, any other way to change that line?
[17:14] <TJ-> genoobie: "gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/ath5k.conf"
[17:15] <genoobie> no output...
[17:15] <genoobie> although it asked for a password
[17:16] <hamilcart>   
[17:16] <TJ-> genoobie: strange, you are using regular Ubuntu with Unity / Gnome aren't you?
[17:16] <genoobie> no
[17:16] <genoobie> that's probably why.
[17:17] <genoobie> let me just delete the file and echo that line again using tee
[17:17] <Monotoko> sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/ath5k.conf
[17:17] <Monotoko> gives you a nice terminal based editor
[17:17] <Monotoko> doesn't rely on any of the pesky GUI's or it's dependancies...
[17:18] <TJ-> genoobie: much better idea, that :)
[17:18] <yecril71pl> How can I get a clock in my system tray in  Unity?
[17:19] <genoobie> looks good
[17:19] <genoobie> let me reboot
[17:19] <genoobie> TJ-, thanks again for all the help
[17:19] <genoobie> if it is hardblocked now I'll freak
[17:19] <genoobie> :)
[17:20] <Monotoko> yecril71pl: there should have been one there by default... top left corner?
[17:20] <yecril71pl> Yeah, the clock is in the screen shot, but I do not have it.
[17:21] <genoobie> TJ-, alright then, very close!
[17:21] <genoobie> both "unblocked"
[17:21] <niko> /28/21
[17:21] <Monotoko> You've never had it... or it's just vanished one day?
[17:21] <TJ-> genoobie: that sounds good
[17:21] <Monotoko> what's there instead?
[17:21] <yecril71pl> Never had it.
[17:21] <yecril71pl> Also, my Dash was empty; I had to install lenses
[17:21] <yecril71pl> What am I missing to get the clock?
[17:21] <Monotoko> strange... what did you install from?
[17:21] <genoobie> ugh, okay
[17:22] <genoobie> wlan0 shows up in ifconfig
[17:22] <yecril71pl> Monotoko: I installed lenses from the Software Center.
[17:22] <genoobie> brb
[17:22] <jamesbrown_> hi guys. how do give a folder a read, write and executable right to the current user?
[17:23] <pbx> jamesbrown_, sudo chmod u+rwx <user>
[17:23] <Monotoko> yecril71pl: I mean ubuntu itself... it should all be installed with the regular install DVD
[17:23] <yecril71pl> It was a server, now turned to be a desktop
[17:24] <yecril71pl> I need to fix things so that they work
[17:24] <jamesbrown_> pbx will that make all folders and files rwx?
[17:24] <genoobie> TJ-, cannot find the gui to configure the network
[17:24] <genoobie> but I'll work on that
[17:24] <pbx> jamesbrown_, sorry, my example was wrong
[17:24] <genoobie> TJ-, thanks mucho for the help again
[17:24] <Monotoko> yecril71pl: try this: sudo apt-get install indicator-datetime
[17:24] <TJ-> genoobie: glad you got it sorted
[17:26] <ses1984> i'm not sure why this is happening, but it if i try to paste a bunch of commands into gnome terminal, and one of those commands is something like `apt-get -fy upgrade`, it only gets that far and the rest of the pasted commands do not execute or show up in my history
[17:26] <yecril71pl> Monotoko: thanks :-)
[17:26] <pbx> jamesbrown_, :  sudo chmod u+rwx -R <path>
[17:26] <ses1984> http://dpaste.com/1WEWFDW
[17:26] <pbx> ses1984, if one of the commands you run asks for keyboard input, it will eat input from your paste
[17:26] <yecril71pl> Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
[17:27] <Monotoko> yecril71pl: sudo apt-get install libcanberra-gtk-module
[17:27] <sheap> anyone know what this error is? I don't have "debconf-apt-from" in pkgsel anywhere so I'm kinda confused http://paste.ubuntu.com/7843007/
[17:27] <jamesbrown_> also i have havin issues upgradin to ubunu 14
[17:27] <Monotoko> not sure why you're missing so many dependancies
[17:27] <ses1984> pbx but doesn't apt-get -fy tell apt-get to not ask for keyboard input? you're saying "force yes"  right?
[17:27] <bsdbandit> anyone using the apt-get module in python
[17:27] <bsdbandit> ??
[17:28] <yecril71pl> Monotoko: Not sure either; shouldn't the Software Center detect this?
[17:28] <ses1984> pbx oh i have the -f option wrong... but the -y should cover it i think
[17:28] <Monotoko> yecril71pl: is this an upgrade or a new install?
[17:28] <pbx> ses1984, i believe so. but something reading keyboard input seems the likeliest cause of the problem
[17:29] <Monotoko> yecril71pl: either way... it should have sorted all this when you installed Ubuntu
[17:29] <potatoes_> is there a good way to upgrade one EOL release to another EOL release
[17:29] <potatoes_> I am trying to go from 11.04 to 11.10 to 12.04
[17:29] <yecril71pl> Monotoko: I did not install Ubuntu; I inherited it.
[17:30] <potatoes_> but the upgrade path is breaking
[17:30] <potatoes_> rather badly :)
[17:30] <pbx> ses1984, might be worth trying in another terminal (e.g. xterm) to see whether it's something about the way gnome term deals with pasted text and long delays
[17:30] <ses1984> pbx when i test these commands interactively and enter them one a time, they never ask for keyboard input, but it seems like they do eat further inputs anyway
[17:30] <ses1984> thanks
[17:30] <TJ-> potatoes_: If you can persuade the upgrade tools to use "http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/" instead of "http://archive.ubuntu.com/", yes
[17:30] <sheap> is it just for the progress bar?
[17:30] <genoobie> ugh
[17:30] <genoobie> stuck stuck stuck
[17:30] <Monotoko> yecril71pl: Ah... sounds fun, Software Center is supposed to be simple, but it borks when things aren't installed in various places, apt-get does a much better job telling you what's missing etc
[17:30] <TJ-> genoobie: is it still hard-blocked?
[17:31] <potatoes_> TJ- Ya, I have unfortunately that's a no go
[17:31] <potatoes_> TJ- I modified the source myself and changed to old-releases and it breaks 7 different ways :P
[17:31] <baegle1> Struggling to get networkmanager to behave
[17:31] <genoobie> TJ-, nope
[17:31] <TJ-> potatoes_: Never tried that amount of pain myself :)
[17:32] <TJ-> genoobie: *phew* :)
[17:32] <baegle1> I have multiple profiles defined for the same SSID but I can't select the profiles, I can only select the SSID
[17:32] <potatoes_> TJ- Honestly it might just be easier to setup a new machine
[17:32] <baegle1> How do I tell NetworkManager to use a specific profile in this situation?
[17:32] <genoobie> I think I screwed something up
[17:33] <genoobie> i tried nm-applet
[17:33] <genoobie> to get the gui in the taskbar
[17:33] <genoobie> and I think I accidentally set up an ad-hoc network on this laptop
[17:33] <genoobie> so now I can't find the wireless but there is the ad-hoc
[17:34] <Monotoko> genoobie: what does ifconfig say?
[17:35] <genoobie> ifconfig lists eth0, lo, wlan0
[17:36] <Monotoko> genoobie: does wlan0 have an IP address or anything?
[17:36] <TJ-> genoobie: "nmcli con list"
[17:36] <Monotoko> nmcli :o
[17:36] <genoobie> Monotoko, no
[17:36] <genoobie> only one wired connection
[17:37] <genoobie> but like I said, I think I set up an "ad-hoc" wireless
[17:37] <genoobie> now I cannot delete it from the gui interface.
[17:37] <genoobie> ugh
[17:37] <genoobie> doesn't seem like the card is active yet
[17:37] <Monotoko> try what TJ- said... I forgot all about nmcli
[17:38] <genoobie> TJ-, only one connection listed
[17:39] <genoobie> so I used the nm-applet, accidentally created a wifi network
[17:39] <ses1984> pbx i tried it in xterm and it didn't work. also i noticed that sometimes apt-get update can take longer than apt-get -y upgrade and it always continues after apt-get update
[17:40] <Monotoko> genoobie: you might have created it... but I don't think you're connected to it
[17:40] <Monotoko> so it shouldn't matter
[17:40] <jamesbrown_> pbx it didnt work sudo chmod u+rwx -R obproject
[17:40] <genoobie> yes, but it's a bit confusing because it has the same name as the wireless I intend to connect to
[17:40] <TJ-> genoobie: does "nmcli" show the connection you want to remove?
[17:40] <genoobie> no
[17:40] <genoobie> TJ-, maybe a reboot?
[17:41] <TJ-> genoobie: no, nmcli will show system and user connections
[17:41] <AgitProp> does the software updater provide anything different than apt-get dist-upgrade ??
[17:41] <genoobie> TJ-, wireless is not working still
[17:41] <TJ-> genoobie: unlike Windows, Linux rarely needs a reboot... at most a service restart or log-out/log-in
[17:41] <genoobie> but the adapter is "up" so to speak
[17:41] <potatoes_> TJ- Hah, I got it to work, lets see how badly things break during the update process :)
[17:41] <genoobie> TJ-, that's a windows habit I guess
[17:41] <TJ-> genoobie: Do you see the connection when you run "nm-applet" ?
[17:41] <Monotoko> AgitProp: not really... apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:42] <Monotoko> it's just nice to have a GUI version
[17:42] <TJ-> genoobie: is the existing connection you see, the Adhoc one? If so, why not just edit it ?
[17:43] <genoobie> TJ-, it's gone now after the reboot
[17:43] <genoobie> here's the thing
[17:43] <jamesbrown_> hi guys. how do give a folder a read, write and executable right to the current user?
[17:43] <genoobie> how do I know if the wlan0 is actively seeking out networks?
[17:43] <jamesbrown_> hi guys. how do give  folder a read, write and executable right to the current user?
[17:43] <jamesbrown_> sorry about that
[17:44] <renebarbosa> chmod 700 folder jamesbrown_
[17:44] <renebarbosa> 700 means -rwx------
[17:44] <TJ-> genoobie: "tail -f /var/log/syslog"
[17:44] <jamesbrown_> renebarbosa i need all files and sub folders as well
[17:44] <renebarbosa> chmod 700 folder jamesbrown_
[17:44] <renebarbosa> ops
[17:44] <zerowaitstate> alternatively, chmod -R u+rwx <username> foldername
[17:45] <renebarbosa> find . -type d -exec chmod 700 {} \;
[17:45] <renebarbosa> be careful with it
[17:45] <zerowaitstate> adding -R makes it recursive
[17:45] <genoobie> TJ-, lost of output
[17:45] <genoobie> bunch of host name not found outpuit
[17:45] <genoobie> TJ-, *output
[17:45] <TJ-> genial: Good :) you should see some wpa_supplicant messages as it scans the network
[17:46] <genoobie> TJ-, none to be found
[17:46] <genoobie> so the card appears to be unblocked but not necessarily active
[17:48] <jamesbrown_> renebarbosa how do you change a folder and all his files and subfolder group? i need to change everything in obproject folder from james to www-data
[17:49] <renebarbosa> jamesbrown_, find . -type d -exec chown www-data: {} \;
[17:49] <Stanley_> When you install something from source, (make install), does it install it in the directory you're currently in?
[17:49] <TJ-> genoobie: "sudo iwlist wlan0 scan"
[17:49] <renebarbosa> jamesbrown_, just make sure to run it from your projects directory, not / , /home or something like that
[17:50] <tonyg_> i'm trying to update initrd.img for my nfs boots of ubuntu 14.04. i build initrd with the same conf and modules as i did before, but for some reason with the new build i get ipconfig: eth0: SIOCGIFINDEX: No such device ipconfig: /tmp/net-eth0.conf: SIOCGIFINDEX: No such device ipconfig: no devices to configure. i'm upgrading from 3.8.0-19 to 3.13.0-32 does anybody have any ideas?
[17:50] <jamesbrown_> renebarbosa okay thanks
[17:50] <renebarbosa> jamesbrown_, you're welcome
[17:51] <compdoc> tonyg_, its 'ifconfig'  , no?
[17:52] <tonyg_> no, it says ipconfig
[17:52] <genoobie> no scan results
[17:52] <genoobie> TJ-, I mean no scan results
[17:53] <TJ-> genoobie: OK... maybe the adapter in the PC and the wireless access point are on different frequency bands?
[17:53] <genoobie> TJ-, um, not likely though
[17:53] <genoobie> wireless g router
[17:53] <genoobie> older lapton
[17:53] <genoobie> that has a "g"
[17:53] <genoobie> but maybe there's a config thing I am missing
[17:53] <genoobie> tempted to install ubuntu and use lde
[17:54] <genoobie> versus lubuntu
[17:54] <TJ-> genoobie: I'm thinking things like regulatory domain ... USA should operate with 11 channels... if the adapter was doing that but the WAP was on Channel 13 ... no connection
[17:54] <genoobie> TJ-, this adapter used to work (on lubuntu 11)
[17:54] <TJ-> genoobie: OK, but WAPs often change channels ... are you able to confirm which channel it is currently using?
[17:54] <genoobie> TJ-, so I'm not really sure.
[17:55] <jamesbrown_> renebarbosa my project is set up like this. projects<main folder> obproject<subfolder> everything is in obproject
[17:55] <TJ-> genoobie: I'm trying to eliminate possibilities here so you don't go chasing the wrong cause
[17:55] <genoobie> you mean the card? Or do you mean the router?
[17:55] <genoobie> not quite sure how to execute that for the card
[17:55] <TJ-> genoobie: The WAP router, its the thing that decides which channel to operate on, and modern WAPs change channels if they detect local interference from other Wifi WAPs
[17:56] <genoobie> okay, well it's present on channel 2
[17:56] <TJ-> genoobie: OK, that is good, no chance of missing it
[17:56] <genoobie> there are 13 channels available at the WAP
[17:56] <genoobie> I see
[17:57] <TJ-> genoobie: So, it seems like the driver might be issue. I'm going to suggest adding back "nohwcrypt" in *addition* to the existing setting
[17:58] <AasIew> just testing
[17:59] <genoobie> TJ-, okay will add that line
[17:59] <genoobie> erm...
[17:59] <genoobie> just a sec
[18:00] <TJ-> genoobie: by the way, I think "leafpad" is the gUI text editor you need.
[18:00] <genoobie> TJ-, have leafpad but it won't save
[18:01] <genoobie> echo "options ath5k nohwcrypt" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/ath5k.conf
[18:01] <potatoes_> well 11.10 was a success
[18:01] <TJ-> genoobie: "gksudo leafpad" then open the file manually?
[18:01] <genoobie> TJ-, would that add a line?
[18:01] <potatoes_> now time to go to 12.04 :)
[18:01] <TJ-> genoobie: That would "-a" *append* a line
[18:02] <genoobie> TJ-, is this all one line?
[18:02] <jamesbrown_> renebarbosa http://pastebin.com/PTM9R6EV
[18:02] <TJ-> genoobie: Yes just add the additional option to the end of the line
[18:02] <genoobie> "options ath5k no_hw_rfkill_switch=1 nohwcrypt"
[18:03] <renebarbosa> jamesbrown_, sorry I'm at office now. I don't have web access allowed here.
[18:03] <renebarbosa> jamesbrown_, send it to me via PM
[18:03] <jamesbrown_> renebarbosa chown: changing ownership of ‘./valet/ckeditor/samples/assets/inlineall’: Operation not permitted
[18:03] <genoobie> TJ-, then sudo modprobe -r ath5k | sudo modprobe ath5k?
[18:04] <renebarbosa> jamesbrown_, pm me
[18:04] <renebarbosa> =)
[18:04] <jamesbrown_> i got that error message when i ran find . -type d -exec chown www-data: {} \;
[18:04] <TJ-> genoobie: Yes
[18:05] <genoobie> okay, no scan results
[18:05] <genoobie> argh
[18:05] <genoobie> but at least it's flashing when I do that
[18:05] <genoobie> TJ-, this is ridiculous, I appreciate your patience
[18:07] <Blaster> I am having a really annoying issue, and I am not sure if it's Ubuntu or hardware related.
[18:07] <TJ-> genoobie: sometimes I've found it needs multiple scans to find networks, but it won't find any 'hidden' networks - is your WiFi SSID hidden?
[18:07] <Blaster> When I click something and drag with my mouse, somehow it unclicks, even though I am holding the mouse button down.
[18:07] <genoobie> TJ-, no
[18:07] <jeffreylevesque> could someone assist me install ubuntu properly?
[18:08] <genoobie> anything obvious I could look for in ifconfig?
[18:08] <TJ-> genoobie: OK, I'm at a bit of a loss here now. Does that PC have an Ethernet connection you can use too?
[18:08] <genoobie> jeffreylevesque, what do you need?
[18:08] <genoobie> TJ-, yes
[18:08] <genoobie> but only temporarily
[18:08] <jeffreylevesque> I'm not sure if you can read through - https://github.com/jeff1evesque/audio-analyzer/issues/351
[18:08] <TJ-> genoobie: Could you pastebin two files for me? "/var/log/dmesg" and "/var/log/syslog" (the latter may be quite big by now)
[18:08] <jeffreylevesque> but, apparently it didn't install correctly, it's not even mounted
[18:09] <genoobie> TJ-, will do
[18:09] <jeffreylevesque> and I can't boot into my original windows OS
[18:09] <pbx> ses1984, thanks for using dpaste BTW :)
[18:09] <genoobie> TJ-, was looking maybe it need nohwcrypt=Y
[18:10] <TJ-> genoobie: boolean ... so it might need "nohwcrypt=1"
[18:10] <genoobie> oh, hrm
[18:10] <genoobie> brb
[18:12] <jeffreylevesque> can I delete my partition / attempt to install ubuntu, and try again?
[18:12] <jeffreylevesque> I just want to ensure that my windows partition is intact
[18:12] <genoobie> nah, no good, will pastebin in a min
[18:16] <Glycan> Hi. How can I bind a bash command to a key combination?
[18:18] <kermin_hermin> Hi. Has anyone noticed that the Ubuntu AMI's on Amazon AWS EC2 have been deregistered?
[18:19] <genoobie> TJ- are you still here?
[18:20] <genoobie> TJ- here is the dmesg pastebin
[18:21] <genoobie> oh crus
[18:21] <genoobie> crud
[18:21] <genoobie> TJ- isn't here any more
[18:22] <grobe0ba> kermin_hermin, i used them yesterday.
[18:22] <grobe0ba> at least, the PV 14.04 SSD one
[18:24] <kermin_hermin> grobe0ba: Trying 14.04 LTS ami-a6926dce and it's unavailable
[18:24] <kermin_hermin> PV as well
[18:24] <grobe0ba> they've been replaced with newer ones
[18:25] <genoobie> ugh, okay, I've been to hell and back with my atheros wireless and I cannot get it working
[18:25] <grobe0ba> ami-80778be8
[18:25] <grobe0ba> for the PV, ami-a6926dce for HVM
[18:25] <eoin> how big should my swap partition be?
[18:25] <sheap> could an ubuntu wizard/witch help me with this :( http://askubuntu.com/questions/501678/tasksel-error-in-14-04-preseed
[18:26] <grobe0ba> eoin, it all depends on what you're using your system for
[18:26] <eoin> or do i even need one?
[18:26] <spigot> eoin: you want one, because without it, ubuntu by default will fill the memory and randomly kill a process when its full
[18:26] <kermin_hermin> grobe0ba: Oh I see - amazon hasn't updated their "suggested" ubuntu AMI link - and the old one is giving perms errors trying to use it
[18:26] <kermin_hermin> grobe0ba: Is there a central place to see when these are released?
[18:26] <d3xter> hey guys
[18:26] <grobe0ba> kermin_hermin, those are both on the initial launch instance list
[18:27] <grobe0ba> as for a centralized location, i've no clue
[18:27] <eoin> so what should i set it to
[18:27] <d3xter> is it normal, that gddrescue stops rescuing data after the first read error?
[18:27] <grobe0ba> like i said though, those are both on my quick start list
[18:27] <kermin_hermin> The "quick start" for mine is the old ones, huh
[18:27] <genoobie> brb
[18:27] <spigot> eoin: whats your total system RAM? old standard was RAMx2 and that's still not a bad idea. it certainly doesn't need to be any larger.
[18:27] <mmorey> does anyone here have experience with the maintenance shell?
[18:27] <grobe0ba> mmorey, what are you trying to accomplish?
[18:27] <eoin> 8gb
[18:28] <grobe0ba> eoin, i'd say 4Gb then
[18:28] <grobe0ba> unless you plan on doing really memory intensive stuff
[18:28] <eoin> ok thanks
[18:29] <spigot> mmorey: it's basically a root shell before ubuntu finishes loading. did you get dumped into it while trying to boot normally?
[18:29] <kermin_hermin> grobe0ba: Can you give me the AMI for the latest 14.04 LTS in HVM mode?
[18:29] <kermin_hermin> Still wrong for me
[18:30] <grobe0ba> ami-a6926dce
[18:30] <grobe0ba> what zone are you in?
[18:30] <grobe0ba> i'm operating in us-east-1
[18:30] <Glycan> Is there any simple way to see what programs are capturing keystrokes?
[18:30] <grobe0ba> so it is very likely different between them
[18:30] <pbx> no
[18:30] <kermin_hermin> same, us-e-1
[18:30] <d3xter> is it normal, that gddrescue stops "rescuing" data after the first read error?
[18:30] <Glycan> pbx: was that to me?
[18:30] <jmonreal> After updating yesterday my trusty box, I no longer could use my hdmi screen. When running xrandr I only get LVDS, VGA connected, but HDMI or DP shows disconnected
[18:31] <jmonreal> I've been googling but without any luck
[18:31] <reisio> d3xter: ddrescue tries to continue by default if it encounters and error, but I doubt that means it can always continue or always even has anything to continue with given any type of error
[18:31] <reisio> an* error
[18:31] <reisio> d3xter: if you want saner output, use the normal, non-gui 'ddrescue'
[18:31] <jmonreal> what can I start looking to see what could be the problem?
[18:31] <d3xter> reisio: i'm using the gnu ddresuce :)
[18:32] <d3xter> not a bling bling gui ^^
[18:32] <grobe0ba> pastebin the output
[18:32] <reisio> ah
[18:32] <reisio> either it can continue or it can't
[18:32] <d3xter> reisio: it is still running and "rescuing" data, but the size of the image hasn't changed for like 20 minutes
[18:32] <reisio> d3xter: that doesn't sound abnormal, if there are problems with the device
[18:32] <grobe0ba> so, it's trying really hard, but it's kind of stuck
[18:32] <grobe0ba> let it go for a while
[18:32] <grobe0ba> and by a while, i mean hours
[18:33] <reisio> what is usually done is you run it and tell it not to try very hard first
[18:33] <reisio> then run again trying hard
[18:33] <reisio> that way you waste less time
[18:33] <grobe0ba> if the device is damaged, stop, put it in the freezer for a couple of hours
[18:33] <grobe0ba> then try again
[18:33] <grobe0ba> works magic, sometimes
[18:33] <d3xter> ok thanks guys, will let it run till tomorrow and see if it worked :)
[18:34] <jmonreal> anyone??
[18:34] <grobe0ba> try your xorg logs
[18:34] <reisio> d3xter: ddrescue -n, then again with -d -r1
[18:34] <jmonreal> grobe0ba: where are they?
[18:34] <grobe0ba>  /var/log/xorg.log
[18:35] <Glycan> Hi, can someone help me out with keybindings?
[18:36] <d3xter> reisio: should i restart this attemt with -n?
[18:36] <d3xter> s/attemt/attempt/
[18:36] <Glycan> I'm trying to run xbindkeys on lubuntu, but it says that some other program is capturing it's keys
[18:36] <pbx> Glycan, yes, sorry
[18:36] <Glycan> sorry?
[18:36] <reisio> d3xter: I would do -n first, then -d -r1
[18:36] <reisio> d3xter: but...
[18:37] <reisio> it would have to be very important data
[18:37] <reisio> (which for some reason I never backed up)
[18:37] <grobe0ba> what is a 'back up'?
[18:37] <reisio> you might luck out and get the important data in the readable bits, from just -n
[18:37] <grobe0ba> :P
[18:37] <reisio> grobe0ba: :p
[18:37] <pbx> Glycan, you asked if my "no" above was to you, it was... but now, say more. share us the exact text or a screen cap of the dialog with the error message
[18:37] <jamesbrown_> how do i put a user into a group?
[18:37] <reisio> jamesbrown_: gpasswd
[18:38] <jamesbrown_> reisio what?
[18:38] <mmorey> spigot:almost. there was a segmentation fault during start-up of the maintenance shell. ubuntu bug?
[18:38] <grobe0ba> jamesbrown_, run gpasswd
[18:38] <grobe0ba> or edit /etc/group
[18:38] <grobe0ba> if you don't know what you're doing (which it seems you dont), run gpasswd
[18:38] <grobe0ba> and read man 5 group
[18:39] <jamesbrown_> grobe0ba in terminal just run it gpasswd
[18:39] <d3xter> reisio: those are important data on a 6 year old laptop with no backup :P
[18:39] <grobe0ba> jamesbrown_, sure
[18:39] <d3xter> reisio: but its not my notebook, so :D
[18:39] <jamesbrown_> grobe0ba -a www-data
[18:40] <grobe0ba> jamesbrown_, i'm honestly not familiar with gpasswd. i don't use a gui for anything
[18:40] <aramus_> Hello, I used DD to clone my harddrive and now the original will only boot if the cloned drive is in
[18:40] <Glycan> pbx: https://gist.github.com/Glycan/f21d997308d3f9828c69
[18:40] <grobe0ba> jamesbrown_, usermod -a -G www-data username should do the trick
[18:40] <mmorey> grobe0ba: testing to see what happens when data disk replaced, to simulate disk failure.
[18:40] <syntroPi> where can i configure the font size of gdm? it displays HUGE fonts which just looks ugly
[18:42] <grobe0ba> mmorey, in which case you'll get a very minimal terminal from busybox
[18:42] <jamesbrown_> grobe0ba i did gpasswd -a james www-daa
[18:42] <jamesbrown_> sudo  gpasswd -a james www-daa
[18:42] <grobe0ba> jamesbrown_, like i said, i've never used gpasswd
[18:42] <mmorey> grobe0ba, except there's a segmentation fault and the system halts.
[18:43] <grobe0ba> strange
[18:43] <grobe0ba> both the kernel and initrd are available, correct?
[18:43] <d3xter> reisio: does the second run check all sectors or only the bad ones?
[18:43] <jamesbrown_>  grobe0ba usermod: cannot lock /etc/passwd; try again later.
[18:44] <grobe0ba> jamesbrown_, must be run as root
[18:44] <grobe0ba> so, sudo usermod -a -G www-data username
[18:44] <mmorey> grobe0ba: yes, root partition, swap partition are intact. All /dev/sda partitions mounted. after entering root password, segmentation fault observed.
[18:44] <grobe0ba> mmorey, any idea what is attempting to execute usermod? 'cause that shouldn't happen during a boot
[18:46] <grobe0ba> also, since you're coming up single user, it will not lock
[18:46] <mmorey> grobe0ba, i'm sorry, what usermod? it was the maintenance shell attempting to run.
[18:46] <grobe0ba> woops
[18:46] <grobe0ba> sorry, wrong shenanigans
[18:46] <grobe0ba> got myself confused
[18:46] <mmorey> grobe0ba, no problem.
[18:46] <grobe0ba> can you tell exactly what is segfaulting?
[18:46] <jamesbrown_> am having too many issues today
[18:47] <mmorey> grobe0ba, i cannot tell b/c i cannot log in, have no command prompt and other vt are not up.
[18:47] <grobe0ba> so, you're not even getting a terminal?
[18:47] <jamesbrown_> i dont have a rwx permission on a folder ever thought i have added myself to the folder group
[18:47] <grobe0ba> i'd suggest putting all your drives back in and booting, then look at the logs
[18:47] <mmorey> grobe0ba, no, segmentation fault, newline, blinking cursor, halted.
[18:47] <grobe0ba> there's nothing we can do without those
[18:48] <jamesbrown_> am switching to windows
[18:48] <grobe0ba> jamesbrown_, you have to set the correct permissions
[18:48] <mmorey> grobe0ba, our sales engineers are confused by the experience and it looks buggy.
[18:48] <grobe0ba> it looks buggy to me too
[18:48] <jamesbrown_> grobe0ba i have try everything and ask so many questions toda
[18:48] <grobe0ba> but there isn't shit i can do without logs
[18:48] <jamesbrown_> and nothing seems to work
[18:49] <jamesbrown_> what log i need?
[18:49] <grobe0ba> jamesbrown_, basic understanding of a system must be had before being able to put it into production
[18:49] <jamesbrown_> u
[18:49] <grobe0ba> jamesbrown_, not you
[18:49] <grobe0ba> you don't need a log
[18:49] <mmorey> grobe0ba, i have advised sales engineer that the work-around is to boot a live distro from cd-rom and recreate the data disk.
[18:49] <grobe0ba> mmorey, sounds like a plan to me
[18:49] <grobe0ba> well, time for me to go home for the day
[18:49] <mmorey> grobe0ba, but my boss wants to know if there's a bug in ubuntu and if it will be fixed.
[18:49] <grobe0ba> mmorey, i don't represent ubuntu
[18:50] <grobe0ba> i barely represent ubuntu
[18:50] <grobe0ba> recreate the drive, get it working again
[18:50] <grobe0ba> check the logs
[18:50] <grobe0ba> file a PR
[18:50] <mmorey> grobe0ba, i know. how do i report to volunteer maintainer?
[18:50] <grobe0ba> *barely use
[18:50] <grobe0ba> mmorey, file a PR
[18:50] <coreder_> how do I get the menu-bar back in gnome-terminal?
[18:50] <mmorey> grobe0ba, okay, a problem report. roger that. will do.
[18:50] <grobe0ba> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[18:50] <coreder_> I don't see it anymore.
[18:50] <pbx> Glycan, i  don't think this is something you can solve with a tool. sounds like the key combos xbindkeys wants to use are already set by something else. may be tedious figuring out what
[18:51] <mmorey> grobe0ba, thanks.
[18:51] <grobe0ba> np
[18:51] <grobe0ba> sorry i couldn't be of more use
FreeBSD is awesomesauce though. You might look at moving to it</shamelessplug>
[18:52]  * grobe0ba gone. going home from work
[18:54] <jamesbrown_> when i try to updrade ubuntu i get "could not determine the update"
[18:54] <jamesbrown_>  An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.
[18:55] <ikonia> jamesbrown_: normally that comes down to either a.) dependency conflicts b.) no internet connection
[18:55] <jamesbrown_> ikonia its a because i have b
[18:56] <jamesbrown_> ikonia wha should i do?
[18:56] <ikonia> you have no internet connection ?
[18:56] <jamesbrown_> no i said i have b so it has to be a
[18:56] <pbx> jamesbrown_, what specific command are you typing?
[18:56] <jamesbrown_> pbx am using th GUI
[19:00] <linux_dr> I appear to have shot myself in the foot: I'm running 14.04 with Unity and the screen lock functionality is suddenly broken (it worked sometime yesterday)  <Clt>+<Alt>+L failed to do nothing earlier today, but now it seems to be restarting the window manager. (Screen flickers like an X restart, but all windows remain intact). I haven't done this in a while. Suggestions on troublshooting?
[19:01] <linux_dr> s/failed to do nothing/failed to do anything/ :-(
[19:02] <arsen> hi folks. flicked on my 'normally fine' 13.10 dell laptop this evening, i now have a black screen/cursor after login (flashback sesh). some googling returned nothing conclusive (tried a few nvidia removal ideas). I wasn't aware i'd updated anything, but its totally possible. :o
[19:03] <ses1984> i'm not sure why this is happening, but it if i try to paste a bunch of commands into gnome terminal, and one of those commands is something like `apt-get -fy upgrade`, it only gets that far and the rest of the pasted commands do not execute or show up in my history
[19:03] <ses1984> http://dpaste.com/1WEWFDW
[19:04] <compdoc> does anyone have vncserver working with Ubuntu with the Unity desktop?
[19:04] <jamesbrown_> pbx what command should i run?
[19:04] <ses1984> apt-get -y should assume yes whenever it would normally wait for keyboard input, but it's eating keyboard input/further pasted lines, anyway, when i don't think it should. i don't know why it's behaving the way it is
[19:04] <linux_dr> FYI, I've been away from Linux desktop for a while, but I've been running Linux in a desktop and server capacity since '96
[19:06] <arsen> presumably lock-screen is just invoke-screensaver, linux_dr - does the screensaver work ok?
[19:07] <linux_dr> arsen, not sure which executable it's supposed to be running...
[19:07] <linux_dr> happy to try launching it manually...
[19:07] <jamesbrown_> whats the command to upgrade from 13.10 to 14?
[19:07] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | jamesbrown_
[19:08] <linux_dr> arsen, I have been trying ,unsuccessfully, trying to install "Drawers" for Unity Launcher, and that has been causing some python failures, but still trying to track those down.
[19:08] <FuzzyHarpyBug> I'm trying to connect Dreamweaver to an apache2 server on a ubuntu 14.04 vps using public key auth. From what I've read I should just be able to do this with sftp, but I can't figure out how to send the private key from my client for the auth.
[19:09] <NNNNNN> buonasera
[19:09] <NNNNNN> !list
[19:09] <jamesbrown_> bazhang lol am goign back to windows D
[19:10] <linux_dr> ubottu: we can send them the URL to a Ubuntu torrent... ;-) lol
[19:10] <FuzzyHarpyBug> never just use only one OS james... lol
[19:11]  * linux_dr lols
[19:12] <alisa> sera
[19:12] <jmonreal> grobe0ba: It helped me to show the hdmi, dp "connected", but they wont display screen on the monitor, but only extends the laptop one inside itself. When I connect the vga cable it appears by itself and with all the modelines available.
[19:12] <alisa> qualcuno che mi spieghi che si fa qui?
[19:12] <jmonreal> Its really odd why it changed from one moment to other
[19:12] <FuzzyHarpyBug> Someone told me I should try setting up mod_dav first, but I'm not sure what end connection type I'm working tword with that...
[19:13] <linux_dr> Hmm... so do I start digging into the Unity source to find how and what the screen lock key gets bound to? or can anyone make a better suggestion?
[19:14] <trism> linux_dr: I believe it just calls org.gnome.ScreenSaver.Lock over dbus
[19:14] <linux_dr> Unity is closed source? (faceplam)
[19:16] <Pici> linux_dr: no one said that.
[19:16] <trism> linux_dr: no, the source is at lp:unity in bzr https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity/trunk (or you could: apt-get source unity; to get the current source package)
[19:16] <linux_dr> lol... sorry... wrong Unity... I was looking at a gaming engine...
[19:22] <rekt> t
[19:32] <DF3D2> Having a problem that I can't seem to figure out. in /var/log/syslog I'm getting a ton of ATA reset errors, like a disk is going bad. I'm not sure how to run fsck on most of my disks. Root / is EXT4 on a 120gb ssd. "storage" is a zfs zpool array with 2x 1tb drives. "storage2" is a zfs zpool array w/ 2x 3tb drives.
[19:33] <DF3D2> http://pastebin.com/PaBbR9hi is my /var/log/syslog info
[19:33] <DF3D2> fsck on / was clean
[19:34] <Jeffrey_f> DF3D2: Get GSmartControl and run the tests on the drive.
[19:34] <hashworks> Anyone got an idea why this cronjob isn't working? In my bash shell it runs as expected: http://pastebin.com/jtEzDNaT
[19:35] <DF3D2> Jeffrey_f: Yeah i'm gonna have to run on all of the zfs drives I guess.
[19:35] <drdozer> hi - I need to set up a secure ftp server, but found that vsftpd won't work for me - what should I try next?
[19:37] <DF3D2> hmm It says "test interrupted" Host reset.
[19:39] <DF3D2> Okay so one of my 3TB drives passed the short test, the other one just says host reset I guess maybe the drive is dead or a bad cable/sata port on the mobo?
[19:39] <genoobie> okay uncle
[19:40] <area51pilot> anyone know of WiDi working in Ubuntu.  I dont see any updated work on Miracle (Miracast project)
[19:41] <DF3D2> hmm now both 3tb have pased the short test
[19:41] <DF3D2> this is very odd
[19:43] <genoobie> okay
[19:43] <genoobie> I've been trying to solve a wifi problem for a few hours now
[19:44] <Jeffrey_f> DF3D2: try reseating the cables to the drives (system powered off of course)  If one drive still gives you trouble, swap the data cables, if the swapped cable also gives trouble, you know it is now a cable..........otherwise, it could just be a spotty connection which could be fixed by a reseat
[19:44] <area51pilot> genoobie, what problem
[19:44] <DF3D2> Jeffrey_f: Yeah I'm gonna have to open it up and look. Nothing should have come loose but stuff happens I guess.
[19:44] <genoobie> atheros wireless adapter is not working
[19:44] <genoobie> lubuntu
[19:46] <area51pilot> genoobie, adapter model?
[19:47] <Mayumi> so i'm trying to install php5 without apache being installed with it ( i want to use nginx )
[19:47] <Glycan> Hi, my home and end keys don't work in libreoffice, how might I go about debugging this/
[19:47] <Mayumi> is that even possible?
[19:47] <Jeffrey_f> DF3D2: I've had cables walk out of a connector on a system that was never physically touched for over a year.......heating and cooling can walk a cable out
[19:47] <Glycan> ?
[19:47] <genoobie> area51pilot, Qualcomm Atheros AR242x / AR542x Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) [168c:001c] (rev 01)
[19:47] <Mayumi> (dem depends)
[19:47] <DF3D2> Jeffrey_f: I guess the easiest way till be to shut down the system, and then boot it up with only one drive connected at a time until I start seeing the errors in dmesg again.
[19:47] <Glycan> (or in any other program for that matter)
[19:49] <area51pilot> genoobie,  try this command and see if it works: sudo rfkill unblock all
[19:49] <Jeffrey_f> DF3D2: just pull and reconnect for now...if the problem goes away, then it is fixed......leave the more aggressive approach if the problem doesn't resolve......simple usually works
[19:50] <genoobie> area51pilot, sudo rfkill list shows all unblocked
[19:50] <DF3D2> Jeffrey_f: Yeah I just shut it down, about to look for "obvious" problems
[19:50] <genoobie> area51pilot, it certainly was a problem before
[19:51] <area51pilot> genoobie, anything change recently?
[19:51] <genoobie> well, area51pilot this is a new install
[19:51] <genoobie> area51pilot, but when I was running 11 it was working then
[19:53] <TBotNik> All: Have a php script using "fwrite" to auto edit some files, but always get "permissions denied" or "is not writable" on the files.  I read the files with "ls -al" and all permissions are 775 with owner being user:users for user:group.
[19:53] <syntroPi> How can i change the resolution for GDM in Ubuntu 14.04 x64 Gnome Edition with nvidia-331 and Gnome 3.10 installed? ... getting really frustrated with wasting time
[19:53] <area51pilot> genoobie, when you pull the driver list is it using the correct drivers?
[19:54] <TBotNik> How do I change these to write from my php script?
[19:56] <TBotNik> All: Repeating: Have a php script using "fwrite" to auto edit some files, but always get "permissions denied" or "is not writable" on the files.  I read the files with "ls -al" and all permissions are 775 with owner being user:users for user:group. How do I change these to write from my php script?
[19:56] <sheap> anyone? :'( http://askubuntu.com/questions/501678/tasksel-error-in-14-04-preseed
[19:57] <ikonia> TBotNik: how is the script being executed
[19:57] <paulcoyote> Hi, greetings from Ecuador
[19:57] <TBotNik> ikonia: I'm running in both cli and browser.  Will be all cli when I finish!
[19:58] <newbieZombi> hi
[19:58] <ikonia> TBotNik: how are you executing it from the browser ?
[19:58] <genoobie> well, it's using ath5k
[19:58] <TBotNik> ikonia: Under localhost
[19:58] <newbieZombi> do somebody knows how to use mysql?
[19:58] <newbieZombi> and php
[19:59] <genoobie> ugh
[19:59] <newbieZombi> I have problem
[19:59] <TBotNik> newbieZombi: Sure it's easy!
[19:59] <paulcoyote> Need some help: last night I was working normally in Ubuntu 14.04, battery run out and my computer shuts down. Today when I turned it on, the message said 'cant find /home partition'
[19:59] <Anurizm> Hi. I have an old 2009 macbook and i wanted to install ubuntu on it as the sole OS. just ubuntu, nothing else.
[19:59] <Anurizm> is this even possible
[19:59] <Pici> newbieZombi: Are you having issues installing them?
[19:59] <Anurizm> and will there be weird graphis issues, etc
[19:59] <coderman1> i shouldnt expect ping speeds of 700x slower on a VM vs a bare metal machine should i?
[20:00] <paulcoyote> My computer has 2 disc: an SSD 32 gb and a sata 500 gb
[20:00] <TBotNik> ikonia: Do I need to PB the code?  Requires install of Enterprise Modules
[20:00] <paulcoyote> the 500 Gb is the /home partition
[20:00] <newbieZombi> I have them installed already @Pici
[20:00] <coderman1> from VM to bare metal is like 70ms, from bare to bare .1ms
[20:00] <ikonia> TBotNik: so you're executing it from your web browser ?
[20:00] <ikonia> TBotNik: via a web server
[20:00] <Pici> newbieZombi: So what is the issue?
[20:01] <paulcoyote> gparted says [unable to detect file system!]
[20:01] <TBotNik> ikonia: No localhost, which is my current LAMP stack box.
[20:01] <ikonia> TBotNik: localhost is a hostname - nothing more
[20:01] <ikonia> TBotNik: so you are executing it from a web server yes ?
[20:02] <paulcoyote> Anyone help, please
[20:02] <TBotNik> ikonia: From FF browser the cmd is: http://localhost/dbox/Projects/External/GDS/php_scripts/fix-iWriter.php
[20:03] <ikonia> TBotNik: so you're trying to run it from a web server ?
[20:03] <genoobie> gahhh
[20:03] <paulcoyote> fstab says: # /home was on /dev/sda2 during installation UUID=2f40bf3f-69e0-4975-8be0-9366c2aecfe7 /home           ext4    defaults        0       2
[20:03] <Busserl> coderman1: vm to normal 70ms sounds too much if on the same lan
[20:05] <paulcoyote> anyone please... can't access to my home partition, can't recover my information
[20:05] <mmorey> does anyone know which package provides the ubuntu maintenance shell?
[20:06] <ikonia> paulcoyote: what's the problem ?
[20:07] <paulcoyote> ikonia : last night I was working normally in Ubuntu 14.04, battery run out and my computer shuts down. Today when I turned it on, the message said 'cant find /home partition'
[20:07] <paulcoyote> My computer has 2 disc: an SSD 32 gb and a sata 500 gb
[20:07] <paulcoyote> the 500 Gb is the /home partition
[20:07] <ikonia> paulcoyote: please pastebin your /etc/fstab
[20:07] <paulcoyote> ikonia :fstab says: # /home was on /dev/sda2 during installation UUID=2f40bf3f-69e0-4975-8be0-9366c2aecfe7 /home           ext4    defaults        0       2
[20:07] <Pici> TBotNik: That means that the webserver on your localhost is executing the php. So, the user that your web server is running as needs to be able to access the file.  By default this is www-data.
[20:08] <JWommack> TBotNik: PHP usually writes from the apache user group so you don't have permissions because User:Group are likely not the group that is. If your server is ubuntu www-data is likely the user iirc otherwise it's probably apache. In either case it'd need 777 or you'll have to change the owning user/group/group members.
[20:08] <ikonia> paulcoyote: "pastebin
[20:08] <paulcoyote> Sorry, going there
[20:08] <ikonia> paulcoyote: so is /dev/sda2 mountable manually
[20:08] <JWommack> Or, basically, what pici said when I wasn't looking >_>
[20:08] <Pici> JWommack: 777 is pretty gross, it would be better to set proper permissions on the file(s).
[20:08] <JWommack> and the correct answer is usually the one that doesn't go 777
[20:09] <JWommack> Indeed Pici
[20:09] <TBotNik> ikonia: From the cli I first run "cd /home/Projects/External/GDS/php_scripts/" then enter cmd "sudo php fix-iWriter.php".  Because the second is root it runs fine, but not from the browser.  I will always use cli, but when I release the tool many users at the company, not knowing cli will run from browser.  I'm assuming the browser user is "www-data", which us usually default and guessing it is not assigned to the "users" group on this machine, causing the
[20:09] <TBotNik> errors.  Do you agree?
[20:09] <ikonia> or not get php to write files outside of the web root
[20:09] <paulcoyote> ikonia : can't mount it , how do I should be doing that
[20:09] <ikonia> paulcoyote: how are you trying to mount it and what is the error
[20:09] <ikonia> TBotNik: make it write to files in the web root
[20:09] <JWommack> Though I'd say in most cases you could probably also come up with a solution that doesn't use fwrite, and should. There are a few cases where you need it but they're few and far between
[20:11] <paulcoyote> ikonia pastebin: http://pastebin.com/mqbYLLuY
[20:11] <paulcoyote> ikonia : trying mounting with gparted
[20:12] <ikonia> paulcoyote: gparted....really.
[20:12] <ikonia> a partition tool to mount a disk
[20:12] <ikonia> "sudo mount /dev/sda2 /home"
[20:13] <paulcoyote> ikonia sorry, kind of noob, I know. Mounting manually says: mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[20:13] <liquidAnger> paulcoyote: try dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda2
[20:14] <DF3D2> Whenever I try to play a video on ubuntu 14.10 I get put back out to the login screen.......
[20:14] <paulcoyote> gparted gives me an error ikonia : Unable to detect file system! Possible reasons are: - The file system is damaged - The file system is unknown to GParted - There is no file system available (unformatted) - The device entry /dev/sda2 is missing
[20:14] <ikonia> paulcoyote: "sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sda2 /home"
[20:14] <zykotick9> ikonia: i'd guess if mount can't figure out what filesystem it is... there is probably something wrong with it...
[20:15] <ikonia> zykotick9: a reasonable guess, but I want to see if the error changes to a superblock warning
[20:16] <paulcoyote> ikonia : mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda2,        missing codepage or helper program, or other error        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try        dmesg | tail  or so
[20:16] <TBotNik> ikonia, Pici, JWommack: Yup no www-data in the "users" group so adding it, to avoid these issues.  Taking a while to update, not sure why!
[20:16] <ikonia> TBotNik: don't add it
[20:16] <ikonia> TBotNik: stop trying to write to files outside the web root
[20:16] <JWommack> ^
[20:16] <ikonia> TBotNik: you are using a web server - the content belongs in the web root
[20:17] <Pici> TBotNik: or don't run the script from the web server.
[20:17] <ikonia> paulcoyote: ok, so it's file system corruption
[20:17] <TBotNik> ikonia: The dir in question is assigned by alias.
[20:17] <ikonia> TBotNik: that changes nothing I said
[20:17] <paulcoyote> ikonia that means... i'm screwd?
[20:18] <ikonia> paulcoyote: no, you can try to use an alternative superblock
[20:18] <ikonia> paulcoyote: but if you're "new" that's starting to get quite comple
[20:18] <ikonia> complex
[20:18] <TBotNik> Ok then all the users will have to learn cli to run it.
[20:18] <ikonia> paulcoyote: you can try to fsck -y /dev/sda2 and see what it says
[20:19] <paulcoyote> i'm not really new, been using ubuntu for 4 years but at user level ikonia - gotta try fsck
[20:19] <ikonia> paulcoyote: come on !
[20:19] <ikonia> paulcoyote: you can't mount a disk, so "you are new"
[20:19] <TBotNik> ikonia: I personally don't care myself cause works great for me!
[20:19] <ikonia> TBotNik: who said anything about it causing work
[20:20] <genoobie> okay
[20:20] <genoobie> wifi was working under a previous version of *buntu but now is not
[20:20] <TBotNik> ikonia: I did all the work writing it to handle 100+ files
[20:20] <newbieZombi> someone can show me how to use the pastebin?
[20:20] <genoobie> newbieZombi, just paste your text, submit
[20:20] <paulcoyote> ikonia yes i'm new like i just drive the car, not change the oil... fsck says The superblock could not be read or does not describe a valid ext2/ext3/ext4 filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2/ext3/ext4 filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:     e2fsck -b 8193 <device>  or     e2fsck -b 32768 <d
[20:20] <ikonia> TBotNik: not sure how this has any relevence
[20:21] <newbieZombi> ok
[20:21] <zykotick9> newbieZombi: i'd suggest paste.ubuntu.com
[20:21] <Jeffrey_f> newbieZombi: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[20:21] <TBotNik> newbieZombi: go to pastebin.com, it's the easiest
[20:21] <ikonia> paulcoyote: you're welcome to try it, you may have a valid superblock there should be a good few on the disk
[20:21] <newbieZombi> i have the pastebinit already installed
[20:21] <paulcoyote> ikonia will try, brb
[20:21] <Jeffrey_f> newbieZombi: if you need to pastbin the output of something, <YourCommandHere> | pastebinit       Will put it out to pastebin then give you a URL
[20:21] <TBotNik> ikonia: I'm good was trying to go the extra mile for the users, but forgetting it now!
[20:22] <zykotick9> TBotNik: and i don't personally visit it when people paste there...
[20:22] <ikonia> paulcoyote: do you know how to do it ?
[20:22] <JWommack> Does anyone know of a good twitter client that gives background notifications and isn't the unity webapp that works in 14.04?
[20:22] <coderman1> Busserl: they are on the same lan....cant figure out why the difference in speed thnough
[20:23] <TBotNik> zykotick9: Why not a PB is a PB and I personally like it better than all the others, much easier to use and personally been using it for over 10 years!
[20:23] <lucasflite> Hola acabo de actualizar el software de xubuntu de mi compu pero no se como activar de nuevo en la barra de tareas el icono de los wireles
[20:23] <zykotick9> newbieZombi: and TBotNik this is debian's pastebin.com factoid:  pastebin.com mangles input, takes forever to load, often makes us enter a CAPTCHA to see your paste and fills the screen with ads.  Please use a different site, like http://paste.debian.net/
[20:23] <paulcoyote> ikonia no, don't know how
[20:23] <lucasflite> como activo los repositorios de xubuntu?
[20:23] <ikonia> so sudo mke2fs -n /dev/sda2
[20:23] <ikonia> paulcoyote: that will give you the alternative superblocks
[20:24] <chuck_> question, i use mysms as my messaging app on android and did find that they atleast built a version for ubuntu 13.04 at some point. will that work on 14.04?
[20:24] <Busserl> coderman1: vm to host is also <1ms for me, could be  a lot of things I guess. Try a different guest maybe
[20:24] <ikonia> then fsck -b (superblock number) /dev/sda2
[20:24] <Jeffrey_f> newbieZombi: does that answer your question?
[20:24] <ikonia> chuck_: I doubt it, but it depends
[20:24] <newbieZombi> no
[20:24] <chuck_> here is the command i found: sudo sh -c "echo 'deb http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/mysms/xUbuntu_13.04/ /' >> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mysms.list"
[20:24] <TBotNik> zykotick9: Never had even one issue with it.  I think the privacy for code you want to mark that way is better than the other.
[20:25] <ikonia> chuck_: I advise very strong against that
[20:25] <Jeffrey_f> newbieZombi: what are you confused about
[20:25] <newbieZombi> I need to explain a problem I have.
[20:25] <newbieZombi> creating a web application
[20:25] <newbieZombi> my application
[20:26] <chuck_> okay thanks for answering
[20:26] <Jeffrey_f> newbieZombi: put it in a single line if you can
[20:26] <Pici> newbieZombi: You need PHP programming help?
[20:26] <paulcoyote> ikonia keep telling me 'bad magic number' , trying all the numbers
[20:26] <ikonia> paulcoyote: maybe out of luck
[20:27] <TBotNik> newbieZombi: So your org Q on mysql; you need to install 2 tools to work with it well. 1.) phpMyAdmin and 2.) MySQL Workbench.  Get those installed and you will find MySQL easy!
[20:27] <Pici> newbieZombi: We can only help with OS issues here. If you need help programming PHP then you probably need to ask ##php.
[20:27] <ikonia> newbieZombi: or learn them properly wihtout using tools like phpyadmin and other security holes
[20:27] <paulcoyote> new message: superblock has an invalid journal inode 8 - cleay y/n
[20:27] <paulcoyote> ikonia new message: superblock has an invalid journal inode 8 - cleay y/n
[20:27] <ikonia> paulcoyote: ooh "y" you maybe lucky
[20:28] <ikonia> paulcoyote: I doubt it, but that's not bad to clear a dead inode
[20:28] <coderman1> Busserl: this isnt from host=>guest. its a guest on another server
[20:28] <newbieZombi> I am creating an application for making quotes.  Quotes can be don in two ways 1-be per item(items are added one by one to the webpage) 2-be bay assembling items.  I can't realize the assebling table
[20:28] <paulcoyote> ikonia yes to all then...
[20:28] <ikonia> paulcoyote: yeah, invalid inode pointers, clear them
[20:29] <paulcoyote> lucasflite sigues aca?
[20:29] <TBotNik> newbieZombi: Always assign your SQL string to a var, then run an "echo" statement before the code executes.  If it errors, cut-n-paste it into the "Query" window of either and find the error in you code that way!
[20:29] <Busserl> coderman1: I've basically never seen pings above 1ms in my lan, regardless of type, vm or not. I doubt this is normal behaviour.
[20:29] <paulcoyote> ikonia ok... yes yes yes... fix it... delete inode... fix yes
[20:29] <ikonia> paulcoyote: you got it
[20:30] <Busserl> coderman1: I have no idea what could cause this, maybe a virt driver problem, host problem, sorry.
[20:30] <paulcoyote> Directory inode 26476660, block #0, offset 0: directory corrupted Salvage<y>?  yes
[20:30] <ikonia> paulcoyote: "yes"
[20:31] <Busserl> coderman1: You could start to troubleshoot your LAN first, I'd guess.
[20:31] <paulcoyote> hundreds of yes... yes yes yes
[20:32] <ikonia> paulcoyote: have faith and be lucky
[20:32] <paulcoyote> ikonia 'your lack of faith will be your perdition...' yes yes yes yes connect lost found yes...
[20:33] <ikonia> paulcoyote: thats good if it's got some data in lost+found
[20:33] <ikonia> paulcoyote: that's a ray of hope
[20:34] <paulcoyote> ikonia hope is not the light at the end of the tunnel
[20:36] <paulcoyote> ikonia: thousands of numbers start to flood the terminal after the last 'connect lost and found' >*
[20:37] <ikonia> paulcoyote: this sounds good
[20:37] <paulcoyote> ikonia looks like wopr playing tic tac toe
[20:37] <paulcoyote> ok, back to normal
[20:38] <patarr> anyone here experience issues with a third display on ubuntu 14.04?
[20:38] <patarr> dual GPU
[20:38] <patarr> Nvidia
[20:39] <paulcoyote> more wopr like numbers...
[20:42] <paulcoyote> ikonia Done.  *** journal has been re-created - filesystem is now ext3 again ***  /dev/sda2: ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED ***** /dev/sda2: 195140/28565504 files (0.4% non-contiguous), 36646399/114232832 blocks
[20:42] <ikonia> paulcoyote: great news
[20:42] <ikonia> paulcoyote: well done
[20:42] <jeffreylevesque> I created a bootable usb drive that doesn't load at startup
[20:42] <paulcoyote> thanks to you ikonia!
[20:42] <jeffreylevesque> could someone assist me?
[20:43] <paulcoyote> will make a backup and a fresh install
[20:43] <ikonia> paulcoyote: good work
[20:43] <ikonia> paulcoyote: no need for a fresh install
[20:43] <ikonia> paulcoyote: you should be fine now
[20:43] <paulcoyote> pressing Y key is a vitch
[20:43] <ikonia> paulcoyote: run fsck from a livecd/media against your partitions
[20:43] <ikonia> paulcoyote: at that point you can be confident your fine
[20:44] <paulcoyote> ikonia will try to run fsck... please don't leave without me
[20:44] <ikonia> paulcoyote: do it from live media
[20:45] <paulcoyote> ikonia ok
[20:46] <paulcoyote> ikonia need to reboot, brb
[20:50] <joseph_> Do people just do nothing on IRC?
[20:50] <daftykins> joseph_: occasionally i respond to questions, to!
[20:50] <Pici> joseph_: sometimes.  This channel is just for support, so the people here may be actually active elsewhere.  We have #ubuntu-offtopic here for non-support conversations.
[20:50] <daftykins> too. stupid broken keyboard
[20:51] <joseph_> Understood, thanks
[20:51] <t4nk105> hey all :)
[20:51] <patarr> anyone at all running triple head on 14.04?
[20:52] <paulcoyote> ikonia bad news
[20:53] <ikonia> paulcoyote: no
[20:53] <paulcoyote> ikonia can see the disk but is empty, just a lost and found folder
[20:54] <ikonia> paulcoyote: that's bad
[20:54] <paulcoyote> ikonia the 'properties' tab shows 142 gb used but the folders are gone
[20:54] <ikonia> paulcoyote: I'm sorry
[20:54] <ikonia> paulcoyote: what's in lost+found
[20:54] <ikonia> (size wise, ignore the content)
[20:55] <t4nk105> i seem to have a problem with x11vnc, whenever i try to connect to it from another LAN host i get "webSocketsHandshake: invalid client header"
[20:55] <t4nk105> any idea on how to solve this?
[20:56] <t4nk105> im so stumped, i have an ubuntu 14 client on an esxi host and cannot remote desktop into it. I spent two days and various tutorials but with no avail :(
[20:56] <paulcoyote> ikonia lost found says 0 items
[20:56] <ikonia> paulcoyote: do "du -hs" in lost+found
[20:56] <Loshki> t4nk105: which client?
[20:57] <daftykins> t4nk105: what client are you using?
[20:57] <t4nk105> x11vnc
[20:57] <Loshki> t4nk105: no, x11vnc is the *server*. What about the client?
[20:57] <cristian_c> Hi
[20:57] <daftykins> hi
[20:57] <cristian_c> I've installed lamp with tasksel
[20:57] <t4nk105> ah my apologies, jump on mac os x and microsoft RDP on mac
[20:58] <cdavis> Why is udev doing this? "systemd-udevd[185]: renamed network interface eth3 to p55p4"
[20:58] <cristian_c> How can I set the security password as I could do in xampp?
[20:58] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[20:58] <compdoc> cdavis, heh. I hate that. You can turn it off
[20:58] <ikonia> don't use xampp
[20:58] <ikonia> is the real nswer
[20:58] <ikonia> answer
[20:58] <paulcoyote> du -hs is taking its time....
[20:58] <ikonia> paulcoyote: that's ok
[20:58] <cdavis> compdoc: how?
[20:58] <cristian_c> ikonia, I don'use xampp
[20:59] <paulcoyote> result 133G
[20:59] <cdavis> compdoc: I really prefer eth3, eth4 :)
[20:59] <majortom> hello
[20:59] <ikonia> cristian_c: so what password are you trying to set
[20:59] <t4nk105> may i post a tutorial that i used?
[20:59] <ikonia> t4nk105: for who ?
[20:59] <cristian_c> ikonia, I must set the security for the lamp components
[21:00] <compdoc> http://pastebin.com/TdBhSSAL
[21:00] <ikonia> cristian_c: what's not secure
[21:00] <paulcoyote> ikonia du -hs result: 133 G
[21:00] <ikonia> paulcoyote: ok - so it's it's in there
[21:01] <ikonia> paulcoyote: now.....depending on why / how it's been put in there will determain how to get it out
[21:01] <t4nk105> im not sure anyone willing to see the steps i followed? xD
[21:01] <ikonia> t4nk105: who do you want to post this for ?
[21:02] <t4nk105> to show you the steps i followed
[21:02] <cristian_c> ikonia, password for mysql and proftpd are not set, phpmyadmin is accessible via network
[21:03] <ikonia> cristian_c: mysql is set, you can change/add to it with mysqladmin, 2.) proftp is nothing to do with lamp 3.) phpmyadmin is nothing to do with lamp, and it's a web application, so it will be accessible on a network by design
[21:03] <t4nk105> i just would like to remote into my current ubuntu session, its a lot easier to set up in windows and mac but with an ubuntu 14 vm, I've been bashing my head trying to get it to work xD
[21:03] <paulcoyote> ikonia somewhere under the rainbow... do I have to use something like extundelete?
[21:03] <ikonia> paulcoyote: I don't see why you would at the moment
[21:04] <paulcoyote> ikonia how do I get something back? please enlight me
[21:04] <ikonia> paulcoyote: it depends on how/why it's been dumped into there
[21:04] <ikonia> paulcoyote: looking at what you'd told me - I'd guess it's all the orphaned inodes being put into lost and found,
[21:05] <ikonia> (sorry thats a bad explination)
[21:05] <paulcoyote> ikonia o_O my face
[21:05] <compdoc> cdavis, did you see?
[21:05] <cristian_c> ikonia, so, are proftpd and phpmyadmin included only in xampp?
[21:05] <ikonia> the idnoes are orphaned so the OS doesn't know where to put the files, so they go into lost+found
[21:05] <ikonia> paulcoyote: check this http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/06/09/how-to-recover-files-from-lostfound-after-fsck-in-linux-how-i-did-it-in-ubuntu/
[21:05] <paulcoyote> ikonia gotta read
[21:05] <ikonia> cristian_c: no idea, one is an ftp server, one is a php gui for managing mysql
[21:05] <t4nk105> this is the tutorial i used: http://c-nergy.be/blog/?p=5439, when i run x11vnc and try to connect to it from a mac (jump or microsoft RDP client i get the following error: webSocket Handshake: incomplete client header error
[21:06] <Kai120> Holaaaaaaa
[21:06] <ikonia> cristian_c: both are something you probably shouldn't be using
[21:06] <Kai120> alguien habla español???
[21:06] <ikonia> t4nk105: why are you pasting this ? who has asked for it
[21:06] <mmorey> who would like to help me with my first problem report?
[21:06] <ikonia> !es | Kai120
[21:06] <Kai120> !es
[21:06] <Kai120> ok
[21:06] <Kai120> thanks you
[21:06] <Kai120> !es | Kai120
[21:06] <t4nk105> ikonia: I'm asking for help, thats why i posted.
[21:06] <ikonia> t4nk105: oh, I see you want help executing it
[21:07] <cristian_c> ikonia, I say when installing xampp
[21:07] <ikonia> t4nk105: that guide looks terrible
[21:07] <t4nk105> ikonia, i did all the steps and executed them, but when i try to connect to my ubuntu vm it doesn't work. I ran x11vnc in ubuntu to see what was happening and get this error: webSocket Handshake: incomplete client header error
[21:08] <cristian_c> ikonia, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223410
[21:08] <Kai120> _
[21:08] <ikonia> t4nk105: that looks like it's installing mate and various other things as well as random 3rd party software
[21:08] <ikonia> cristian_c: why are you showing me this ?
[21:08] <t4nk105> well do you have a better one? i can't find a simple way to remote into ubuntu 14 running in a VM
[21:08] <ikonia> t4nk105: there are standard VNC servers for example in the main ubuntu repos
[21:08] <t4nk105> such as?
[21:09] <ikonia> tinyvnc, tigervnc
[21:09] <ikonia> 2 off the top of my head
[21:09] <ikonia> search the ubuntu repos
[21:09] <ikonia> however your repo list will now be corrupted
[21:09] <t4nk105> how so?
[21:09] <ikonia> t4nk105: because you've installed 3rd party repos and packages
[21:10] <DF3D2> anyone else have crazy pixelation on VLC media player whenver using AMD binary drivers?
[21:10] <cristian_c> ikonia, <ikonia> cristian_c: no idea, one is an ftp server, one is a php gui for managing mysql
[21:10] <ikonia> cristian_c: I know this, I told you
[21:11] <cristian_c> 'WARNING - SECURITY' section
[21:11] <ikonia> cristian_c: what ?
[21:11] <Loshki> t4nk105: Try a different client: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10264801/why-is-the-handshake-failing
[21:11] <cristian_c> in the topic I've linket to
[21:11] <cristian_c> *linked
[21:11] <ikonia> cristian_c: why are you linking to that ?
[21:11] <t4nk105> ikonia: so how do i fix this? fresh install?
[21:11] <jeffreylevesque> My machine is trying to boot into ubuntu (fails).  It's originally a windows machine.  During machine startup, if I press `esc` and try to boot Windows, it fails.  Should I make a bootable flash for windows, or ubuntu?
[21:12] <cristian_c> ikonia, it shows a section named 'WARNING - SECURITY'
[21:12] <ikonia> cristian_c: are you using xmmp
[21:12] <ikonia> cristian_c: yes/no
[21:13] <cristian_c> 'Open holes:' etc...
[21:13] <ikonia> cristian_c: yes/no
[21:13] <ikonia> cristian_c: are you using xammp yes/no
[21:13] <shaddowed> install ubuntu now or wait till tommorow 14.04.1 is released?
[21:13] <cristian_c> ikonia, no, but I've already told this
[21:13] <Busserl> jeffreylevesque: you could try to reinstall grub from ubuntu live. If you used a windows install disk, that could only make windows boot again, it would not care about ubuntu boot.
[21:13] <t4nk105> ikonia: I'm freaked out lol, do i just wipe the VM and reinstall ubuntu?
[21:13] <blacks0ul> Hi I am having issues with apt proxy. I receive *503  Unable to download in offline mode*
[21:13] <cristian_c> 'This doesn't leave your whole system wide open, but someone could hack your XAMPP installation, so be wary. To fix most of the security weaknesses open a terminal and run: '
[21:13] <ikonia> cristian_c: ok - so "no" so why are you linking to a forum post about security issues with xammp when you are not using it
[21:13] <k1l_> shaddowed: install now. when running the regular updates you become 14.04.1 automatically
[21:13] <ikonia> cristian_c: you're not using xammp - so why do you care
[21:13] <Bashing-om> jeffreylevesque: We work best from ubuntu, to look at what is going on -> create a ubuntu liveDVD.
[21:14] <jeffreylevesque> Busserl, I don't have a windows install disc
[21:14] <SchrodingersScat> there's a 14.04.1 now?
[21:14] <cristian_c> ikonia, because, as I've told before, you've told: '<ikonia> cristian_c: no idea, one is an ftp server, one is a php gui for managing mysql'
[21:14] <k1l_> SchrodingersScat: its called point release. that is for LTS versions.
[21:14] <ikonia> cristian_c: you're not using them - you're not using xammp
[21:14] <Endrius> t4nk105: If you are using virtualbox, then it has build-in rdp support
[21:15] <ikonia> cristian_c: so stop trying to patch holes for xammp when you are not using xammp
[21:15] <Busserl> jeffreylevesque: That disc could only make windows boot again, if you wanted dual boot, then try reinstalling grub from ubuntu live disk. I think there are free windows install disks on microsofts website btw.
[21:15] <Busserl> *microsoft's
[21:15] <t4nk105> I'm using an esxi server, but what do i do to vnc into the machine on that box? also is a fresh reinstall necessary?
[21:15] <anonymous__> hi
[21:16] <jeffreylevesque> I only have access to OSX right now.  Can I make an Ubuntu Live on this system?
[21:16] <cristian_c> ikonia, yes, but I've asked: '<cristian_c> ikonia, so, are proftpd and phpmyadmin included only in xampp?'
[21:16] <ikonia> cristian_c: you can install them if you want to
[21:16] <ikonia> cristian_c: but as I told you - they are nothing to do with lamp
[21:17] <cdavis> compdoc: no, I didn't see how to do it
[21:17] <compdoc> http://pastebin.com/TdBhSSAL
[21:17] <t4nk105> im not sure does esxi have tools to remote into ubuntu?
[21:17] <cristian_c> ikonia, or in other suites similar to xampp?
[21:17] <compdoc> cdavis ^
[21:17] <ikonia> cristian_c: it is nothing to do with lamp
[21:17] <sheap> halp :(? http://askubuntu.com/questions/501678/tasksel-error-in-14-04-preseed
[21:17] <ikonia> cristian_c: you are not using xampp so forget about xampp
[21:18] <cdavis> compdoc: thanks
[21:18] <cristian_c> ikonia, but it contains apache and mysql, and etc...
[21:18] <cristian_c> *the suite
[21:18] <ikonia> cristian_c: LAMP = Linux, Apahe, Mysql, PHP
[21:18] <ikonia> cristian_c: nothing more
[21:18] <k1l_> cristian_c: did you install the all-in-one package from a website?
[21:19] <cristian_c> k1l_, I've installed them with tasksel, but I've problems with configuring them
[21:20] <cristian_c> and I've read the ubuntu wiki
[21:20] <k1l_> ok, so dont follow howtos that talk about the all-in-one package. since that is a different setup.
[21:20] <cristian_c> k1l_, I follow the wiki
[21:21] <Person> Hello there. My question is probably a derp and easy one so I apologize. I want to test Unbuntu before actually installing it and I downloaded the ISO file in my USB stick (http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/try-ubuntu-before-you-install). While starting my computer I pressed F12 and choose "USB [something]", but I got the message "No OS found" or something like that.
[21:21] <sheap> where does tasksel take input? from who? when?
[21:21] <cristian_c> ikonia, but I don't find answers for my question
[21:21] <ikonia> cristian_c: what question?
[21:21] <cristian_c> lol
[21:22] <Busserl> Person: try a tool like unetbootin
[21:22] <k1l_> cristian_c: so what is your question?
[21:22] <Person> I'll look for it. Thank yiou very much.
 ikonia, yes, but I've asked: '<cristian_c> ikonia, so, are proftpd and phpmyadmin included only in xampp?'
[21:22] <cristian_c> I don't know this
[21:22] <Busserl> Person: try different tools until one works, usb boot can be "special"
[21:22] <ikonia> cristian_c: you are using xampp - it doesn't matter
 ikonia, or in other suites similar to xampp?
[21:22] <ikonia> cristian_c: ask the people who make the xammp package what they put it it
[21:23] <DF3D2> anyone else have crazy pixelation on VLC media player whenver using AMD binary drivers?
[21:23] <k1l_> cristian_c: if you need that install the ubuntu package from the official ubuntu repo
[21:23] <ned98> DF3D2: here too
[21:23] <DF3D2> anyone else have crazy pixelation on VLC media player whenver using AMD binary drivers? Basically, if I uninstall the AMD binary drivers the problem goes away. I have no idea if it is a problem w/ ubuntu, AMD, or VLC. I have had this issue plenty of times. I "fixed it once" but upon upgrading to 14.10 it came back.
[21:23] <ikonia> cristian_c: you have installed LAMP, that means "Linux, Apache, Mysql, PHP" is on your system - nothing else
[21:23] <ikonia> cristian_c: if you want to manually install additional packages - that is up to you
[21:23] <DF3D2> ned98: Yeah, I'm using Gnome Mplayer now w/ the AMD drivers and it works perfectly fine.
[21:24] <cristian_c> k1l_, it's not present in the ubuntu repos
[21:24] <ikonia> xammp
[21:24] <DF3D2> guess I'll kiss VLC good bye
[21:24] <ikonia> xammp is not in the ubuntu repos - it's junk
[21:24] <k1l_> cristian_c: what is not present?
[21:24] <cristian_c> k1l_, it's installed via a .run
[21:24] <cristian_c> k1l_, xampp
[21:24] <ned98> DF3D2: i think i fixed the problem by fiddling around with vlc settings - not sure, i'm now running Arch
[21:25] <axp882> ikonia i switched clients, nick was t4nk
[21:25] <k1l_> cristian_c: xampp is a bunch of garbage. if you want that go and annoy the xampp support. we dont support that in here and have told you now 10000 times
[21:25] <axp882> any idea if i can fix the repos or should i just do a fresh install?
[21:25] <ned98> nginx rocks
[21:25] <k1l_> cristian_c: if you want to install a webserver, mysql, php etc etc etc install the packages
[21:25] <cristian_c> k1l_, but I've not installed xampp
[21:25] <k1l_> cristian_c: that stop talkin about that
[21:25] <DF3D2> ned98: i'VE tried with GPU acceleration On and OFF. Neither seems to help
[21:26] <ikonia> cristian_c: right - so stop trying to fix/setup xammp
[21:26] <k1l_> just forget it
[21:26] <cristian_c> k1l_, I've found the configuration related to xampp, instead
[21:26] <JWommack> ...
[21:26] <k1l_> there is no need for "what if xampp" if you dont use xampp at all
[21:26] <cristian_c> that's more different
[21:26] <Busserl> cristian_c: think about apache, mysql and php
[21:26] <ned98> DF3D2: hmm... what version of the driver are you using? Installed thru the drivers control panel?
[21:27] <cristian_c> ikonia, uhm ,I'm not trying to fix/setup xampp
[21:27] <k1l_> so either you are lying to us, or you are thinking in the wrong direction. we told you to stop thinking in the wrong direction and want to help you.
[21:27] <ikonia> cristian_c: you are - you're using a webpage that explains securiy holes for xampp, and fix them
[21:27] <ikonia> cristian_c: you're not using xampp, so stop referencing it
[21:27] <JWommack> Cristian_c, is what you are trying to do is to use proftpd and phpmyadmin?
[21:27] <DF3D2> ned98: newest AMD binary driver. Installed it manually
[21:28] <ikonia> JWommack: no, he's not even installed them
[21:28] <ikonia> JWommack: but he's trying to "fix them"
[21:28] <k1l_> cristian_c: xampp is insecure by default. if you go the proper ubuntu way you dont need to fix that because its a different setup
[21:29] <DF3D2> ned98: Like I said, I've had this issue plenty of times. I remember even having it w/ an NVidia card back in the day. I think maybe VLC is just crappy anymore?
[21:29] <DF3D2> cause Gnome Mplayer seems to have no issue
[21:29] <ned98> DF3D2: i had problem with the manually installed binary too
[21:29] <JWommack> Ikonia: part of it sounds like he's trying to find out why they're in xampp but not in whatever he set up, I'm guessing he doesn't realize that xampp is both a amp install and a number of packages that run on amp installs, but I can't see his original question.
[21:30] <ned98> DF3D2: AMD installer was very buggy and performed like shit, but the driver from the control panel worked almost flawlessly
[21:30] <JWommack> but that's just what it reads like from what I can see
[21:30] <k1l_> JWommack: basically he is following a howto secure xampp that is unnecessary for not xampp package installs.
[21:30] <DF3D2> ned98: I think i'll take the path of least resistance: and just use Mplayer. VLC doesn;t have any specific features I need. Very odd about the manually installed Binary driver performing any differently though.
[21:31] <ned98> DF3D2: yeah, strange thing... But who knows with video drivers!
[21:31] <cristian__c> k1l_, but you've told me: '<k1l_> cristian_c: if you need that install the ubuntu package from the official ubuntu repo'
[21:32] <JWommack> If that's the ubuntuforums link then why not just explain that the user information is different based on how you're installing it and what you've set up
[21:32] <k1l_> cristian__c: stop
[21:32] <DF3D2> ned98: Yeah, I have all kinds of issues with AMD drivers on windows also. I'm running an Xfire 290x setup that can be a pain the arse at times.
[21:32] <cristian__c> k1l_, can you explain me?
[21:32] <ned98> DF3D2: windows has buggy printers, we have buggy video drivers and sometimes buggy wireless ones hahahaha
[21:32]  * JWommack will go back to mostly working on stuff now and stop interjecting
[21:32] <k1l_> cristian__c: if you did not install that xampp package.run thing. then you dont need to think about xampp.
[21:33] <DF3D2> ned98: don't get me started on my Hp printer w/ windows 8.1 half the time I have to reboot the printer to get it to print ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[21:33] <k1l_> cristian__c: if you follow a "howto secure xampp" you are following a bike repair tutorial for a car repair. you are just wrong from the start.
[21:33] <k1l_> cristian__c: so what is your real question?
[21:33] <ned98> DF3D2: omg windows 8.1!  I'm soo sorry about that... Hahahaha
[21:33] <cristian__c> k1l_, it answers to : <k1l_> cristian_c: that stop talkin about that'
[21:34] <cristian__c> k1l_, and I said that I've to configure the security of lamp
[21:35] <DF3D2> ned98 But Anyway it's probably one msg before they tell us we are off topic: So back to the linux problem. Have you found arch works better w/ AMD drivers and VLC? I'm curious if it is an AMD, VLC, or Ubuntu problem. I feel it is some combination of the three that causes the issue. Maybe that is why Mplayer doesn't have the issue as it uses some different back end to decode videos ?
[21:36] <ned98> DF3D2: well, since you "build" Arch from scratch you're sure that everything works as expected, so no big problems so far - there are specific packages in the AUR, which is awesome
[21:36] <k1l_> cristian__c: you can configure your lamp install (which is the apache, mysql, php,... packages from the ubunut repo) but that is different to the xampp how to since that xampp package has a lot of security issues because they just dont mind security at all.
[21:36] <cristian__c> k1l_, and the ubuntu resources talk about lamp installed with xampp and not with tasksel, so here the reason
[21:36] <k1l_> cristian__c: so the problems you want to fix dont mean to be in the ubuntu packages. so stop running behind that xampp how to
[21:37] <paulcoyote> ikonia I got it! find under lost and found the home directory, copying right now
[21:37] <DF3D2> ned98: I just don't have time to build everything from scratch haha. Also if I started building everything from scratch I'd feel the need to upgrade my old I3 machine that I run linux on. An unneeded expense really.
[21:37] <svm_invictvs> For the life of me I can't figure out how to add services to the default runlevel on ubuntu
[21:37] <svm_invictvs> update-rc.d corret?
[21:37] <k1l_> cristian__c: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223410 that one?
[21:38] <cristian__c> k1l_, ok, so, if I install lamp-server with tasksel, have I got no security risks, then?
[21:38] <ned98> DF3D2: with building i'm obviously talking about the OS :P
 cristian__c: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223410 that one?
[21:38] <DF3D2> ned98: no, I know. You mean compiling from scratch. I was inferring that if I had to wait for compiles to finish I'd feel the need to ugprade to a newer processor on that rig :-)
[21:38] <ned98> DF3D2: you'd be surprised, Arch can be set up in minutes if you know your way - no bloat and 100% compatibility with you system - graphics included
[21:38] <cristian__c> k1l_, yeah, and also the ubuntu locoteam wiki page
[21:39] <k1l_> cristian__c: did you read that big WARNING sign? "WARNING
[21:39] <k1l_> This guide is aimed at a development environment only and should not be used as a public webserver. To setup a public webserver follow the directions on the Ubuntu wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP"
[21:39] <cristian__c> k1l_, yeah, that section
[21:39] <k1l_> cristian__c: close that forums thread and never open it again
[21:39] <cristian__c>  This guide is aimed at a development environment only and should not be used as a public webserver. To setup a public webserver follow the directions on the Ubuntu wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[21:39] <cristian__c> ok
[21:40] <k1l_> this whol thread is about that bunch of xampp package we told you not to use or think about.
[21:40] <ned98> DF3D2: convert to Arch >:) ahahahahaha
[21:40] <DF3D2> ned98: I use Freebsd on a web server I run. I hate having to compile everything haha.
[21:41] <k1l_> cristian__c: that thread has nothing to do with a tasksel lamp installation.
[21:41] <cristian__c> k1l_, but essentially I've to install a software (named kalkun) that requires a web server (with apache, mysql, etc...)
[21:42] <cristian__c> k1l_, I've followed this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tasksel
[21:42] <blacks0ul> Hi I am having issues with apt-cacher-ng
[21:42] <ned98> DF3D2, freebsd is kinda evil - my NAS is based on that
[21:42] <k1l_> cristian__c: follow that site: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[21:42] <blacks0ul> I see 1406151719|O|381|192.168.122.113|uburep/pool/universe/d/dnsmasq/dnsmasq_2.59-4ubuntu0.1_all.deb from the logs .. but the client side .. I am receiving 503 error
[21:42] <ned98> DF3D2, gotta go sleep, here's late...
[21:42] <ned98> bye everyone!
[21:43] <DF3D2> later
[21:45] <bjrohan> Hello, I did a fresh install of 14.04 on a dell latitude D520 (old computer, had xp on it). When I originally booted the liveUSB, it connected to the net via the ethernet connection. I then chose to install ubuntu. Now, it says that there are no network devices available, no ethernet, or wifi. The system has a Broadcom wlan card, and obviously a working ethernet (wifi worked when xp was installed)
[21:47] <cristian__c> k1l_, regarding the installation, I've done this nevertheless, but regarding the  configuration, are there no problems with security? Can I go over and use these software?
[21:48] <daftykins> bjrohan: i'm familiar with the 505s, if it had XP - you'd have been better going with xubuntu or lubuntu
[21:48] <k1l_> as a admin it is your responsibility to take care of that. there is no 100% secure software. but if you follow the security notes from the software you use and install the updates/patches you are on the good run
[21:49] <cristian__c> k1l_, I was referring to lamp
[21:49] <bjrohan> daftykins: I just did the install, no problem switching :-)
[21:50] <k1l_> cristian__c: the security depends on the configuration etc. you need to keep an eye on that yourself
[21:50] <daftykins> bjrohan: does it have 1GB RAM?
[21:50] <cristian__c> 'After installing MySQL' 'Set mysql root password'
[21:50] <bjrohan> daftykins: 512
[21:50] <cristian__c> k1l_, I've installed lamp, but I've not configured it
[21:50] <Busserl> cristian__c: LAMP is an acronym for those applications, tasksel just installed them all at once for you. lamp is not a "suite".
[21:51] <cristian__c> yet
[21:51] <daftykins> bjrohan: ouch! to be honest that kind of spec is really going to struggle with any form of ubuntu, what are you hoping to use it for?
[21:51] <bjrohan> daftykins: should I use lubuntu
[21:51] <cristian__c> Busserl, I think the lamp-server package
[21:51] <k1l_> cristian__c: follow the wiki page i lnked you
[21:51] <bjrohan> daftykins: it isn't for me, but a friend that this was given too. My understading searching the web, and running citrix receiver
[21:51] <cristian__c> k1l_, I was quoting the titles into it
[21:52] <daftykins> bjrohan: ah ok, then yeah lubuntu would be the lightest (though least nice looking ;) ) choice
[21:52] <Busserl> cristian__c: You should learn how to configure the applications you installed. Follow the ubuntu wiki, yes, read their manual, and lamp-server packagesi just a convenience package to install multiple 'real' packages at once.
[21:52] <k1l_> cristian__c: you still need to config that.
[21:52] <bjrohan> daftykins: not so good looking, but my guess is well supported as ubuntu based
[21:52] <cristian__c> k1l_, ok, but it's not easy
[21:52] <Busserl> cristian__c: correct.
[21:52] <bjrohan> daftykins: this person is not very computer savvy (but works for a wind power company)
[21:53] <k1l_> cristian__c: no one said it is easy to run a safe webserver
[21:53] <daftykins> bjrohan: ah, ok well see how you get on installing that one :) if you still have issues with missing interfaces i'm sure anyone in here would be happy to help :) let me give you a link for information on broadcom wireless also...
[21:53] <k1l_> cristian__c: that is the reason there are so much corrupted websites out there.
[21:53] <SchrodingersScat> bjrohan: last I checked, xubuntu said it could run on 512meg, but lubuntu should be lighter
[21:53] <daftykins> !broadcom | bjrohan give this a look :)
[21:54] <awesomess3> to run a safe webserver all you have to do is:     while [ 1 ] ; do yes | sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql5-server ; sleep 2391823098123 ; done
[21:54] <cristian__c> k1l_, in the wiki page you've suggested there are many many things, but I'm not sure they everything is mandatory
[21:55] <SchrodingersScat> awesomess3: no update or upgrade?
[21:55] <ikonia> awesomess3: that is stupid, please don't make such pointless comments
[21:55] <cristian__c> *that
[21:55] <bjrohan> daftykins: Thank you, the 1st driver option will work on that page for the 4311. Any ideas regarding the ehternet not working after install?
[21:55] <Glycan> Hi. My home and end keys don't work, how can I fix this?
[21:55] <cristian__c> awesomess3, lol
[21:56] <usr13> Glycan: You've forgotten your password?
[21:56] <Glycan> usr13: uh, what?
[21:56] <usr13> Glycan: What is it you need to fix?
[21:56] <Glycan> My home and end keys do not work.
[21:56] <daftykins> bjrohan: i'd recommend disabling the "install with updates" option, if lubuntu offers it - then perhaps it will remain online and you'll be able to come back and we can identify the hardware etc.
[21:57] <usr13> Glycan: Define keys.  Define home.
[21:57] <Glycan> The keys next to the big delete button, insert, pause/break, and PGUP/PGDW on many keyboardS?
[21:57] <bjrohan> Thank you, I am currently on a different computer :). I will install lubuntu and see how it goes.
[21:57] <Glycan> Keyboard keys?
[21:57] <usr13> Glycan: Oh, ok.
[21:57] <Glycan> A button, on a keyboard, with "home" written on in, in, uh, arial I think
[21:57] <Glycan> maybe 7pt?
[21:58] <usr13> Glycan: So, those keys don't work anywhere?
[21:58] <Glycan> No, not even in tty
[21:59] <usr13> !keyboard | Glycan
[21:59] <Glycan>  ...what does this have to do with layouts?
[21:59]  * Guest4513 cristian_c
[21:59] <usr13> Guest4513: I don't know really.  I've  yet to see such a problem, was just a wild guess.
[22:00] <Glycan> was that for me?
[22:00] <alket_livecd> Hi , im trying to shrink a LVM , why do I get his error http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7844213/
[22:00] <Glycan> and I'm using lubuntu (xfce) but I don't have settings nor settings manager
[22:00] <usr13> Glycan: There are certain applications in which Home or End keys do nothing, so what you have may be normal.
[22:01] <Glycan> usr13: no, this is system-wide, including tty
[22:01] <]CkB[Hologram> wow holy shit
[22:01] <usr13> Glycan: Could also be that your keyboard is defective.
[22:01] <]CkB[Hologram> oops wrong channel
[22:01] <Glycan> You know, to jump to the end and start of lines?
[22:02] <jimmyv> does anybody know how to upgrade an image created with debootstrap?
[22:02] <Glycan> can I bind somethign else to those keys?
[22:02] <eeee> Glycan: not a fix, but you can use ctrl+A ctrl+E to jump to the beginning an end of line til you fix the problem
[22:02] <Glycan> eeee: doesn't work in libreoffice
[22:03] <usr13> Glycan: So if you are in a [multi-page] man file in a tty, the Home or End key will do nothing?
[22:03] <freijon> does anyone use Chrome Unstable and have the issue that fonts are looking very ugly since the last update?
[22:04] <Glycan> usr13: yes
[22:04] <OerHeks> freijon, chrome or chromium?
[22:05] <freijon> OerHeks: Chrome (and I guess Chromium too)
[22:06] <eeee> Glycan: Libre Office > Tools > Customize > Keyboard, might be useful
[22:06] <OerHeks> for beta/unstable chrome report to google, chromium to launchpad
[22:07] <usr13> !locale | Glycan
[22:07] <Glycan> what's that go tot do with it?
[22:07] <usr13> Glycan: Was that for me?
[22:08] <usr13> Glycan: locale |pastebinit  #Let's have a look.
 and I'm using lubuntu (xfce)  >> lxde or xfce?
[22:09] <Glycan> just a moment
[22:09] <Glycan> OerHeks: err, lxde
[22:09] <Glycan> they both have an x in their name, I keep confusing them
[22:10] <Glycan> eeee: thanks, looking at that right now
[22:10] <Glycan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7844263/
[22:12] <OerHeks> dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-layout
[22:13] <OerHeks> or dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[22:13] <usr13> Glycan: cat /etc/default/keyboard
[22:13] <usr13> Glycan: What does ^^^^ that say?
[22:13] <Glycan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7844279/
[22:14] <usr13> Glycan: pastebinit /etc/default/keyboard
[22:14] <Glycan> ohhh, I get it
[22:14] <Glycan> I think this is because it thinks I'm using my laptop's keyboards, wheras I'm actually using a pluggable one
[22:15] <usr13> Glycan: Oh so you asked this problem about a keyboard and neglected to tell us you were using a laptop with an external keyboard plugged into it?
[22:15] <Glycan> dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration asks me about my keyboard's modal, which I'm fairly ignorant off
[22:15] <gartral> alright guys.. I have an odd problem, I have a laptop, an HP Elitebook 2730p, works almost perfectly minus a single flaw, the built-in 3g card, a Gobi-2000 chip, doesn't come up, lsusb doesn't show it, nothing in the logs.. but under windows it does.. it's very strange
[22:16] <Glycan> usr13: I thought it was a software thing
[22:16] <usr13> Glycan: So what kind of keybard is it?
[22:16] <usr13> *keyboard*
[22:17] <Glycan> has a HP logo on it
[22:17] <usr13> Glycan: Really?  It has a logo on it?  Never mind ;(
[22:17] <usr13> Glycan: I think you figured it out anyway.
[22:17] <Glycan> uh, KU-0841 model...
[22:18] <Glycan> does HP make laptops?
[22:18] <gartral> Glycan: yea
[22:18] <usr13> Glycan: USB or PS2 ?
[22:18] <eeee> am i high
[22:18] <eeee> whats happening
[22:18] <usr13> eeee: I think so.
[22:18] <usr13> eeee: It is either me and you, or it's Glycan
[22:20] <Glycan> not high, just really tired, sorry...
[22:20] <usr13> Haha That's ok.  We all have our moments. (We hope to find some humor in it every now and then...)
[22:21] <Glycan> huh, so I ran dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration, now my tty has a different font but home still doesn't work
[22:21] <usr13> Glycan: pastebinit /etc/default/keyboard
[22:21] <Glycan> PS/2 is the round thing, right?
[22:21] <usr13> yep
[22:21] <Glycan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7844299/
[22:21] <JWommack> Also a great way to date hardware
[22:21] <Glycan> huh?
[22:21] <Glycan> oh, date as in by time
[22:22] <satsuki> gartral : if it's build-in 3g card i doubt lsusb can show it
[22:22] <Glycan> no, despite being terribly old, my laptop doesn't have those
[22:22] <usr13> Glycan: So waht you see there is the keyboard that the laptop has in it, (hpi6).  Right?
[22:23] <Glycan> no, because I've reconfigured it since then
[22:23] <Glycan> with the previous command you told me to do
[22:23] <Glycan> dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[22:23] <Glycan> It's a Dell laptop, D400
[22:24] <usr13> Glycan: And if it were to say XKBMODEL="pc105" instead of XKBMODEL="hpi6" you'd probably have working Home and End keys.
[22:25] <Glycan> What's pc105?
[22:25] <Glycan> Rather, what does dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration think that's called?
[22:25] <usr13> Glycan: Probably the type of keyboard you have plugged in....
[22:26] <usr13> Glycan: Does your laptop keyboard have Home and End keys on them?
[22:26] <Glycan> uh yes
[22:26] <FuzzyHarpyBug> I need a little help connecting dreamweaver to my apache server. trying to use mod_dav but I have no idea what I'm doing. This is what I've got so far http://pastie.org/9415872 in the apache2.conf file, and http://imgur.com/iDmWXpn in the dreamweaver config.
[22:26] <usr13> Glycan: Do they work?
[22:26] <FuzzyHarpyBug> I know I'm missing something entirely...
[22:26] <Glycan> usr13: no, my laptop keyboard is competely fried
[22:26] <i_antr0g3n> liteirc.net is already in ownership 2 be used via teh network in question! linkers based on mass agreement, unmoderated channels uther than 4 true moderation issues, like flooding, is the goal. Enjoy the kline!
[22:27] <Baribal> Hi. I've got a video, I've got a soudtrack for it, what tool would you recommend to splice and adjust them, and to cut away bits at the beginning and end?
[22:28] <i_antr0g3n> liteirc.net is already in ownership 2 be used via teh network in question! linkers based on mass agreement, unmoderated channels uther than 4 true moderation issues, like flooding, is the goal. Enjoy the kline!
[22:28] <usr13> Glycan: Try changing XKBMODEL="hpi6" to XKBMODEL="pc105"  and then remove all that stuff after XKBOPTIONS, so that it looks like XKBOPTIONS=""
[22:29] <mattlindn> Why. The heck. Is the default IRC client Quassel?
[22:29] <mattlindn> it just doesn't work. Doesn't even give error messages
[22:29] <mattlindn> come on you guys
[22:29] <daftykins> mattlindn: this is not a forum to vent your spleen.
[22:29] <usr13> Glycan: Or comment out those 4 lines and make some new ones, (in case you ever get a new keyboard).
[22:29] <WXZ> I need a webcam emulator for precise pangolin
[22:29] <Glycan> usr13: it mentions a bunch some mildly scary stuff about what to do after changing that file, can't I just change it with the dpkg thing?
[22:30] <k1l_> mattlindn: its not quassel on unity
[22:30] <i_antr0g3n> liteircnet@gmail.com
[22:30] <mattlindn> k1l_, dunno i just typed IRC into the ubuntu automatic button thingy and thats what opened
[22:30] <Glycan> although admitedly I can't see anything that could correspond to pc105
[22:30] <k1l_> mattlindn: quassel is even not installed by default
[22:30] <Glycan> PC-98xx Series?
[22:31] <JWommack> Does unity even have a default irc? I didn't think it did.
[22:31] <i_antr0g3n> what freenode probably tried be it isn't. We need more active interaction. Freenode is for foss. Efnet is more skiddies and sluts. And anythink else large is innactive. Lookin 2 merge what is laready half of 12 1gig e servers to others - linkers are not required to do anything except be technically inclined. If you stay a linker is based upon mass agreement of current linkers. Lookin for unmoderated channels uther than for true moderation 
[22:31] <k1l_> xchat is the default for irc. they should switch to hexchat imho
[22:31] <mattlindn> k1l_, i never installed it
[22:31] <mattlindn> k1l_, was on the default LTS distro
[22:32] <JWommack> hmm, strange, it wasn't bundled for me, closest thing that was was empathy
[22:32] <mattlindn> mattlindn, xchat isn't installed by default, had to install it, and is what i'm using now
[22:32] <usr13> Glycan: You could always make a backup, sudo cp /etc/default/keyboard /etc/default/keyboard.bak
[22:32] <mattlindn> er
[22:32] <mattlindn> k1l_,
[22:32] <sheap> why did krb5-clients get deleted from the repos?
[22:32] <Glycan> eh, fine, I'll do it another time, I've already wasted more time messed around with this then I would of saved by them working
[22:32] <Glycan> thank you very much
[22:33] <Glycan> I think libreoffice has a workaround
[22:33] <eeee> Glycan: it has a workaround,
[22:33] <eeee> Glycan: try running xev, then press home, see if the terminal picks it up
[22:34] <Glycan> doesn't
[22:35] <rick7> A
[22:36] <usr13> mattlindn: irssi is good
[22:36] <nashant> Hi guys, I've got a sudo problem. Getting  sudo: unable to open /var/lib/sudo/user/0: No such file or directory
[22:38] <k1l_> mattlindn: xchat is not installed by default, that is right but its the default irc program. but quassel is not default at all.
[22:38] <Glycan> eeee: but yeah, bound libreoffice with C-a and C-e
[22:38] <usr13> nashant: What user are you logged in as?
[22:39] <nashant> usr13: my main user
[22:39] <usr13> nashant: Are you logged in as Guest ?
[22:39] <usr13> nashant: What is the user name?
[22:40] <nashant> usr13: www. It's my web server
[22:40] <awesomess3> user www, group www-data?
[22:41] <nashant> replace "user" with "www" in the above error
[22:41] <nashant> nope, group www
[22:41] <usr13> nashant: whoami
[22:41] <nashant> www:www
[22:42] <eeee> Glycan: you can remap your keyboard
[22:42] <usr13> nashant: ls /home/
[22:42] <nashant> just /home/www
[22:42] <usr13> nashant: So if you issue the command ls /home/  You get what?  www  ?
[22:43] <eeee> Glycan: try xmodmap -e "keycode 0xff50=Home"
[22:43] <alesan> hey what was that command line tools to mess with PDF documents from the command line?
[22:43] <nashant> usr13: yeah
[22:43] <alesan> like split them in pages, or enable/disable features
[22:43] <usr13> nashant: grep www /etc/group |pastebinit
[22:43] <chrissg> pdfsam.
[22:44] <usr13> nashant: Or  grep adm /etc/group
[22:44] <nashant> adm:x:4:syslog,www
[22:45] <usr13> nashant: So sudo does not work at all for you?
[22:45] <eeee> Glycan: i don't think that'll work cuz it's not picking up the home key, but you can get the hex value for any key with xev, and set it to home. so it will be system-wide
[22:45] <nashant> usr13: It seems to do stuff. For instance I can sudo su into root
[22:45] <usr13> nashant: ls /var/lib/sudo/
[22:46] <usr13> nashant: So sudo -i works?
[22:46] <nashant> usr13: Yeah, but I get the same error
[22:47] <usr13> nashant: df
[22:48] <usr13> nashant: What is the higest number in the Use% collumn
[22:48] <nashant> usr13: Nowhere near full
[22:48] <nashant> 8%
[22:50] <usr13> nashant: So what all is in  /var/lib/sudo/user/  ?
[22:50] <nashant> usr13: it's /var/lib/sudo/www
[22:50] <nashant> but /var/lib/sudo/www/0  isn't a directory, but a file
[22:52] <FuzzyHarpyBug> Ok, maybe someone here can help me with this question instead. I have root login and password auth disabled for my ubuntu 14.04 server, public key auth only. Is there a way to make just a certain directory accessible with a username and password?
[22:54] <usr13> nashant: I did not said it was a directory, (I was asking what was there).
[22:54] <nashant> usr13: all that's in there ls 0
[22:56] <Symphonym> Does anyone know if something like Matrox DualHead2Go would work to setup connect 2 monitors alongside my laptop (with Ubuntu 14.04)?
[22:56] <Symphonym> connect*
[22:56] <usr13>  nashant I do not think that is correct.  What do you see when you issue command  ls /var/lib/sudo/
[22:56] <usr13> ?
[22:59] <thephreak> checkin in, I'm trying to do-release-upgrade on a system running 12.04. and getting an error "WARNING:root:file 'quantal.tar.gz.gpg' missing". IS there any way to update at this point
[23:03] <c3vin> having trouble with network manager in 13.10
[23:04] <c3vin> getting (32) Insufficient Privileges when attempting to switch wifi
[23:04] <c3vin> been searching for the past hour without any real direction of how to fix
[23:04] <c3vin> do I need to config something in lightdm or network manager?
[23:07] <usr13> nashant: What I am trying to get at is there should be /var/lib/sudo/www  (a directory).  Is it there?  Or is it not there?
[23:12] <usr13> c3vin: What do you need to do?
[23:13] <c3vin> usr13: Need to select wifi network at login screen
[23:13] <usr13> c3vin: At a login screen?
[23:14] <c3vin> usr13: getting Failed to add/activate connection (32) insufficient network privileges
[23:14] <c3vin> usr13: yes, lightdm
[23:15] <usr13> c3vin: What does lightdm have to do with the network manager?
[23:16] <c3vin> usr13: disregard, still a bit confused with terminology
[23:16] <usr13> c3vin: Are you unable to login to your user account?
[23:17] <c3vin> usr13: I'm able to login with local account, but would like to be able to select wifi network to login with AD account using Centrify Express
[23:17] <usr13> c3vin: Well, we need to establish conventional terms in order to understand each other.
[23:17] <usr13> c3vin: Sounds to me like you have 2 separate issues here.
[23:17] <c3vin> usr13: ok
[23:18] <usr13> c3vin: What is Centrify Express?
[23:18] <c3vin> usr13:http://www.centrify.com/express/free-active-directory-tools-for-linux-mac.asp
[23:18] <c3vin> allows network authentication against AD
[23:18] <usr13> c3vin: Is network manager giving you an error?  (Saying that you do not have priviliges to chane network settings?)
[23:19] <c3vin> usr13: yes
[23:20] <usr13> c3vin: Are you connected to your Wireless Router right now?
[23:20] <c3vin> yes
[23:20] <c3vin> usr13: yes
[23:21] <usr13> c3vin: So your question is not about your Local Area Network.  It is about Active Directory Tools.  Right?
[23:21] <c3vin> usr13: no, it's about network manager.  How can I provide permission to select wifi network at login screen
[23:23] <usr13> c3vin: You do not select a WiFi Network at the login screen. Are you confusing someting on the login screen with a WiFi Network?  If so, what is it?
[23:23] <c3vin> usr13: I'd like to be able to select wifi network at login screen, so users may authenticate against AD
[23:23] <c3vin> usr13: network manager shows WiFi network available, but I'm unable to connect
[23:24] <c3vin> usr13: otherwise, local users need to be created
[23:26] <usr13> c3vin: ifconfig |grep Bcast  #Tell us what that says.
[23:27] <c3vin> usr13: wifi IP address
[23:27] <c3vin> ???
[23:28] <usr13> c3vin: Does it give you a local IP address?
[23:28] <c3vin> yes
[23:28] <c3vin> are you attempting to troll me?
[23:29] <c3vin> I have a valid concern / bug
[23:29] <usr13> c3vin: I was about to ask you the same question.  ;)
[23:29] <usr13> c3vin: You told me that you are connected to your wireless network.  Right?
[23:29] <usr13> c3vin: Is this a laptop?  Or Desktop?
[23:30] <c3vin> usr13: lol....ok man.  I'm setting up a laptop cart for a school.  they will be shared with multiple users.  instead of setting up local users on each laptop, I've configured centrify to pull ad info
[23:30] <c3vin> that's working great
[23:30] <_zoggy_> 208.74.179.150.static.etheric.net/208.74.179.150
[23:30] <c3vin> the only dependency is a network connection
[23:30] <_zoggy_> ...
[23:30] <c3vin> so when laptops boot up, they need to be able to select wifi network
[23:31] <c3vin> when wifi network is selected, insufficient privileges message appears
[23:31] <c3vin> so I'm wonding if it possible to allow wifi network selection on login screen?
[23:31] <usr13> c3vin: Are all these laptops running 13.10?
[23:32] <c3vin> usr13: yes
[23:32] <usr13> c3vin: The first question that comes to *my* mind is, are you intending to upgrade them?
[23:32] <c3vin> usr13: thanks dude, have a nice day
[23:32] <awesomess3> RIP 13.10
[23:33] <usr13> awesomess3: Do you have any idea what he was asking about?  Does anyone?
[23:34] <usr13> Active Directory Authentication for Linux at the Login screen?
[23:34] <usr13> Anyone?  (I'm lost...)  (Please help...)
[23:34] <awesomess3> usr13, why continue to care c3vin left.
[23:35] <usr13> Good point.
[23:41] <enchilado> 22
[23:41] <enchilado> I didn't say that
[23:41] <BrandonC> so doing install of ubuntu and its just stoped with dektop background and black menu bar at top
[23:44] <wsl38> is it possible to make an alias for the second part of a command? like cp filename ~/destination  but filename is going to change every time depending on the file.
[23:44] <Loshki> BrandonC: 14.04? Also, are you related to BrandonB ?
[23:44] <BrandonB> lol
[23:44] <BrandonC> ya and no
[23:44] <BrandonC> well were both humans and in irc, those are relations
[23:46] <Loshki> BrandonC: so, a fresh install that won't come up all the way, and the live DVD ran ok?
[23:47] <Bashing-om> Lost_x: Checking up on you .. do you now have your ubuntu installed ? OR ?
[23:47] <BrandonC> live cd worked fine
[23:54] <Loshki> BrandonC: do you get a prompt if you do ctrl-alt-f1 ?
[23:54] <BrandonC> duno hard powerd it off
[23:55] <BrandonC> xp install dosent see any hard drives
[23:55] <BrandonC> gana try new ide cable
[23:55] <k1l_> BrandonC: still that boot issue?
[23:55] <BrandonC> ya
[23:56] <k1l_> still didnt check the cables and other hardware?
[23:56] <k1l_> is that drive showing up in bios?
[23:56] <BrandonC> ya showes up in bios
[23:56] <k1l_> make sure the hardware is working at all
[23:57] <Loshki> BrandonC: A new cable can't hurt. I'd like a chance to poke around with the live cd if you try again...
[23:57] <BrandonC> k booting live cd
[23:57] <BrandonC> i did hve a previous report..
[23:57] <BrandonC> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7838402/
[23:59] <Jeffrey_f> BrandonC: Are you encrypting the drive??
[23:59] <BrandonC> nope
[23:59] <Loshki> Thank the gods...