[04:01] <DalekSec> My word.
[07:33] <zequence> OvenWerks: I got my upload rights now :).
[07:45] <smartboyhw> Ohio zequence, Noskcaj, OvenWerks ;) Came to visit you here. How's it going?
[07:45] <Noskcaj> wow, smartboyhw is back
[07:45] <smartboyhw> Well, only for today:)
[07:45] <Noskcaj> pretty good. How are you?
[07:46] <smartboyhw> Great
[07:46] <Noskcaj> A few of your old ITPs have been taken, i assume there were none of those you really wanted?
[07:47] <smartboyhw> No, I'm busy with study here. But it's summer holiday, so I think I should come around and visit. 
[07:47] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj, if you want to take all of the ITPs, I don't mind.
[07:48] <smartboyhw> Can you help me to open a Debian bug to orphan zbackup also?
[07:48] <Noskcaj> smartboyhw, I took the xfce4-whiskermenu one, some other guy took the terminology one
[07:48] <Noskcaj> sure
[07:48] <Noskcaj> But why does your country have such hard school?
[07:48] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj: Ask why Hong Kong has a crap education system.
[07:49] <smartboyhw> And I will go all fired.
[07:49] <Noskcaj> :)
[07:49] <smartboyhw> We got a lot of tuition courses to attend, and homework to do.
[07:49] <smartboyhw> And more importantly: Your coursework contributes to the actual public exam results 
[07:50] <smartboyhw> So I'm currently reading a book for that.
[07:50] <Noskcaj> We just do the minimum till year 11, then two years of fairly hard schooling, then done
[07:51] <Noskcaj> for zbackup, can't you just modify an old O bug
[07:51] <smartboyhw> zequence: If you still have the T-shirt with you, I will send you the address in a few days. 
[07:52] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj: I can. Let me do that now, just before I forget about it again.
[08:01] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj: Debian Bug #755773 for you
[08:01] <Noskcaj> Wouldn't O be more applicable?
[08:01] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj: I don't know, I haven't touched the rules for a whoe year -_-
[08:02] <smartboyhw> *whole
[08:02] <Noskcaj> O = orphaned, you can't maintain it anymore. RFA =Still maintaining it, but don't want to
[08:02] <smartboyhw> Oh, OK, retitle then
[08:11] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj: There you go for the retitling
[08:11] <Noskcaj> cool
[11:02] <zequence> smartboyhw: Good to see you Howard. Yes, I still have the t-shirt. But, I used it a couple of times. I will send you a new one shortly.
[11:03] <zequence> It's hot, hot here...
[11:03] <smartboyhw> zequence: It's hot, hot here too... :( How's Studio?
[11:04] <smartboyhw> Got some new features in the works?
[11:27] <zequence> smartboyhw: Sure, the work goes slowly, but we're getting a new CD size ISO soon.
[11:28] <zequence> smartboyhw: Also, I got upload rights just now, so I can do our uploads myself
[11:35] <smartboyhw> zequence: Wow, great. CD sized ISO? So, now I can do a 700MB studio install soon? That's nice
[11:38] <zequence> smartboyhw: The trusty ISO has a plugin that lets you deselect packages, but the way it works is it first installs everything, then removes what one deselected
[11:39] <zequence> The CD size will not ship with our packages. A new plugin is needed, which can install stuff over the internet too
[11:39] <zequence> Or, rather, our multimedia packages won't be shipped with the CD size ISO :)
[11:40] <smartboyhw> Ah, I get the idea. So basically, that CD-sized ISO is a Studio-themed Ubuntu without multimedia.
[11:41] <smartboyhw> zequence: How many new volunteers have you got since I left?
[11:51] <zequence> smartboyhw: We have Ross, who has done some good things for us.
[11:51] <zequence> People show interest, but very few end up being productive
[11:54] <smartboyhw> zequence: As usual -_-
[11:55] <smartboyhw> Encouraging continued contribution is the most difficult part of an open-source community.
[12:31] <zequence> It's a big world and this is a very small niche - also, people don't usually work for fre
[12:31] <zequence> free*
[12:33] <smartboyhw> zequence: You should now be on 14.04.1 testing now, right?
[12:40] <zequence> smartboyhw: Yeah
[13:13] <OvenWerks> smartboyhw: good to hear from you... as usual at this time, on my way out the door to work. 
[13:13] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks: :)