| Darkwing | Okay... SDDM fails to load. Let's see if Lightdm will work. | 00:20 |
|---|---|---|
| Darkwing | Huh. sddm didn't like my system. | 00:35 |
| genii | !info sddm utopic | 00:35 |
| ubottu | Package sddm does not exist in utopic | 00:35 |
| Darkwing | Aaaand Lightdm doesn't load Plasma5 either. *sighs* | 00:47 |
| Darkwing | Back to trusty | 00:56 |
| valorie | `sudo kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade` didn't work on my other laptop to try to upgrade to utopic | 01:05 |
| Darkwing | Hey valorie | 01:05 |
| valorie | neither did `sudo do-release-upgrade` | 01:05 |
| valorie | hi Darkwing | 01:05 |
| valorie | how are ya? | 01:06 |
| Darkwing | valorie: a bit frustrated at the moment. | 01:08 |
| valorie | what's going on? | 01:08 |
| Darkwing | Plasma5 lol | 01:09 |
| valorie | it's rather incomplete | 01:09 |
| valorie | to say the least | 01:09 |
| valorie | but impressively stable, IMO | 01:10 |
| valorie | I have to say, I've not been able to do much, so I never leave it running long | 01:10 |
| Darkwing | Yeah | 01:10 |
| valorie | def. not ready for Prime Time | 01:11 |
| Darkwing | Yup | 01:11 |
| valorie | I think we made the right call | 01:11 |
| valorie | allow easy-ish access, but continue to release the stable version | 01:12 |
| valorie | impressive work by the kubuntu team to make both happen simultaneously | 01:12 |
| Darkwing | Agreed. Lol | 01:14 |
| Darkwing | The joys of having a state of the art laptop and the pains of having one lol | 01:14 |
| valorie | having uefi issues, or what? | 01:18 |
| Darkwing | Mostly HiDPI | 01:23 |
| valorie | #firstworldproblems! | 01:25 |
| Darkwing | Yuuup | 01:26 |
| Darkwing | Plasma5 via Neon in trusty works! | 01:27 |
| Darkwing | Now to switch my buttons to the left get my workflow back | 01:27 |
| Darkwing | http://imgur.com/a/BfxmE | 01:31 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: I don't even remember the bug? | 01:43 |
| valorie | hmmm, I never got the pretty wallpaper to work | 01:50 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Are you already working with Ubuntu Security on getting http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kdelibs.git&a=commit&h=e4e7b53b71e2659adaf52691d4accc3594203b23 fixed? | 01:55 |
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| soee | good morning | 06:09 |
| soee | after latest upgrades plasmashell crashes at start :( | 06:09 |
| soee | ok have it working again after removal of .config dir | 06:15 |
| soee | now also i have all icons (with some new etc) | 06:15 |
| soee | gtk apps does not use qtcurve | 06:41 |
| apachelogger | yofel: what would you want to do with qtptahs? | 07:25 |
| yofel | apachelogger: well, for now I made plasma-workspace depend on qttools5-dev-tools again, but is that really as scary as your comment suggests? | 07:25 |
| apachelogger | Your membership in kubuntu-members is about to expire | 07:27 |
| apachelogger | talking about a stressful morning | 07:27 |
| yofel | nooooo | 07:27 |
| apachelogger | yofel: what is it used for? | 07:27 |
| yofel | figuring out where the qt bin and plugin paths are | 07:28 |
| apachelogger | and the dev dep definitely is no option it pulls in the entire graphics dev stack mesa,mir,probably opengl | 07:28 |
| apachelogger | yofel: yeah, but for what is it used? | 07:28 |
| yofel | apachelogger: startkde uses it | 07:29 |
| apachelogger | yofel: needs splitting into own package I'd say | 07:30 |
| apachelogger | like qdbus | 07:30 |
| yofel | agreed | 07:30 |
| soee | any idea why gtk apps do not respect/use qtcurve ? | 07:37 |
| soee | *plasma5 | 07:37 |
| Riddell | ScottK: mm nope, don't think I've seen that | 07:54 |
| Riddell | "Harald Sitter (apachelogger) renewed their own membership in the Kubuntu Members" yay apachelogger still loves us! | 07:58 |
| yofel | soee: did you set the gtk theme to qtcurve? There was at least a gtk2 one IIRC | 07:58 |
| soee | yofel: where exactly should i do it ? | 07:59 |
| yofel | good question.. do we have a qt5 gtk theme kcm? | 07:59 |
| yofel | soee: try 'kcmshell gtk', maybe that will work | 08:00 |
| yofel | er, kcmshell4 gtk | 08:00 |
| soee | kcmshell4 kde-gtk-config | 08:03 |
| soee | it had oxyget-gtk set by default for gtk2 apps | 08:06 |
| soee | now when qtcurve is set by default shouldnt this be set to qtcurve also ? | 08:06 |
| soee | for gtk3 thers no option to set qtcurve | 08:06 |
| yofel | probably because we have no gtk3 qtcurve theme right now | 08:09 |
| yofel | and no, qt and gtk need to be set seperately | 08:09 |
| yofel | if anything we can make a script that updates everything on update | 08:09 |
| apachelogger | soee: run /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/kconf_update_bin/kde4breeze | 08:13 |
| apachelogger | if you then don't have gtk use the same theme the app is gtk3 or you are missing the gtk package | 08:13 |
| soee | apachelogger: just type /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/kconf_update_bin/kde4breeze right ? | 08:13 |
| apachelogger | yes | 08:14 |
| soee | apachelogger: http://wstaw.org/m/2014/07/24/qtcurvecfg.png | 08:17 |
| yofel | looks right | 08:18 |
| soee | ah sorry, i thought there should be gtk3 qtcurve set :) the gtk2 apps works fine now | 08:19 |
| soee | *work | 08:19 |
| apachelogger | there is no gtk3 qtcurve at this time | 08:19 |
| yofel | I see something in a github repo, with a very grumpy gtk3 comment in the readme... | 08:20 |
| Riddell | qtcurve just moved to kde git by the way | 08:21 |
| Riddell | tsdgeos: what happened to kactivities in 4.13.90? | 08:28 |
| apachelogger | it became 5.x | 08:30 |
| tsdgeos | Riddell: there is no | 08:32 |
| tsdgeos | it's been announced | 08:32 |
| tsdgeos | just use 4.12 | 08:32 |
| tsdgeos | Riddell: there is no, right? | 08:32 |
| tsdgeos | or did i fuckup and packaged it anyway? | 08:32 |
| soee | http://sessellift.wordpress.com/2014/07/23/its-aliiiiive/ :) | 08:34 |
| soee | a lot of intertesting improvements in plasma 5.1 | 08:35 |
| soee | personaly waiting for activities switcher :) | 08:35 |
| Riddell | tsdgeos: no it's not there | 08:37 |
| Riddell | tsdgeos: I must have missed that announcement, thanks | 08:37 |
| soee | question from g+: Where are the 4.13.3 KDE updates for Kubuntu 14.04 Trusty?? | 08:41 |
| Riddell | soee: none yet, too busy with plasma 5 and 4.14 beta | 08:42 |
| Riddell | volunteers welcome as ever | 08:42 |
| soee | ok ill give short answer on that question | 08:43 |
| valorie | Riddell: you advised using kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade earlier, but I keep getting: command not found | 09:04 |
| valorie | do-release-upgrade won't work until utopic is actually released | 09:04 |
| Riddell | valorie: part of ubuntu-release-upgrader-qt ? | 09:05 |
| Riddell | it's just a one line script to run kdesudo "do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f DistUpgradeViewKDE -d" | 09:05 |
| Riddell | dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/sddm-theme-maui_0.8.99-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa4_amd64.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/usr/share/sddm/themes/maui/maui.jpg', which is also in package sddm 0.1.0~git20140624-0ubuntu1 | 09:05 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: something expected? ↑ | 09:05 |
| valorie | I'll try that and leave that laptop working all night | 09:05 |
| Riddell | I wonder what happens if you release upgrade with neon installed | 09:06 |
| Riddell | since there's no neon in utopic | 09:06 |
| Riddell | I guess it'll remove it since it's PPA packages | 09:06 |
| valorie | probably have to reinstall, yeah | 09:07 |
| shadeslayer | it disables them IIRC | 09:12 |
| shadeslayer | on that note, I wonder if neon is co installable with next PPA | 09:12 |
| shadeslayer | because of SDDM | 09:12 |
| valorie | thanks, your kdesudo line did the trick | 09:14 |
| valorie | and I'm installing it in the neon session, so I guess we'll see what it does.... | 09:15 |
| valorie | either it works or it doesn't; I'll see in the morning | 09:16 |
| valorie | niters | 09:16 |
| shadeslayer | night | 09:19 |
| ovidiu-florin | apachelogger: do I get any kind of notificaition when my new email is available? | 09:44 |
| soee | ehat is FIFO ? :) | 09:45 |
| soee | when system is booting i see 2 lines with some messages and one contains FIFO | 09:45 |
| Riddell | a queue of any sort | 09:54 |
| soee | come kind of quiz ? find out what is behind box 1 2 or 3 ? http://wstaw.org/m/2014/07/24/wallpapers.png :) | 10:06 |
| soee | it is impossible to switch PRIME profiel from NVIDIA to INTEL, thai should be reported against nvidia-prime ? | 10:08 |
| soee | looks like the images thumbs arent cached | 10:20 |
| soee | and generated each time we browse images | 10:20 |
| kubotu | feed branches had 7 updates, showing the latest 6 | 10:42 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: https://cloud.google.com/products/calculator/\ | 10:52 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell:comes out to about 22 USD a month | 10:52 |
| shadeslayer | sent you a email | 10:53 |
| shadeslayer | if we remove the cloud storage, it's 20 USD :D | 10:53 |
| shadeslayer | about the same price as our current instance | 10:55 |
| Riddell | shrug, so no advantage? | 10:57 |
| shadeslayer | well, faster disk | 10:57 |
| soee | what are the specs of your current cloud storage ? | 10:59 |
| Riddell | we don't use cloud currently | 11:00 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning folks | 11:00 |
| Riddell | it's the hosteurope server he's talking about | 11:00 |
| apachelogger | ovidiu-florin: no | 11:12 |
| apachelogger | ovidiu-florin: just try to send yourself a mail via the alias :P | 11:12 |
| apachelogger | ovidiu-florin: apparently the council neglected to mention that you might want to change your launchpad id .... | 11:13 |
| apachelogger | ovidiu-florin: ovidiub13@ubuntu.com is good? | 11:13 |
| apachelogger | if not you want to change your launchpad id and wait another <=48hours ;) | 11:13 |
| apachelogger | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEmail#Changing_your_Launchpad_name | 11:14 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I think we need that fixed. | 11:26 |
| soee | system settings window freezez when trying to open desktop effects section | 11:32 |
| apachelogger | gdb -p `pidof systemsettings` | 11:38 |
| soee | after few minutes i had a windows askig to cloase program or wait, i have closed it | 11:40 |
| soee | and now i when i try again i can open desktop effects oO | 11:41 |
| kubotu | feed branches had 7 updates, showing the latest 6 | 11:42 |
| Riddell | ScottK: slap it on trello then so we don't forget | 11:43 |
| soee | hmm activiteis arent listed in window/program properties | 11:48 |
| ScottK | Riddell: All trello'ed up. | 11:50 |
| soee | apachelogger: this command gdb -p `pidof systemsettings` should help in case of this problem again ? | 12:09 |
| apachelogger | no | 12:13 |
| apachelogger | it allows you to backtrace and repot a bug | 12:13 |
| apachelogger | https://community.kde.org/Amarok/Development/DebuggingHowTo#Debugging_Hangs | 12:14 |
| apachelogger | going to promote usb-creator and software-properties now, both appear to be rather functional | 12:44 |
| apachelogger | also I decided not to run the cpp apps through recipes since we mostly are tied into the releases anyway so we'll not get overriden by a new version without us being aware | 12:46 |
| apachelogger | also promoting debconf | 12:48 |
| apachelogger | yofel: what's with your workspace in staging? | 12:48 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: promote where? | 13:25 |
| apachelogger | next | 13:33 |
| shadeslayer | voila | 13:43 |
| Riddell | asi | 13:43 |
| shadeslayer | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kubuntu5/kubuntu5-201407241229.iso | 13:43 |
| shadeslayer | amd64 ISO's | 13:43 |
| Riddell | ¡así! | 13:44 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: you should make more people admin on the board | 13:44 |
| apachelogger | https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Trello | 13:45 |
| Riddell | does it need a separate board? | 13:45 |
| Riddell | "Traffic incl. unbegrenzt" | 13:49 |
| kdeuser56 | yofel: hi, do you know a command that helps me to detect if I run on Ubuntu or Kubuntu? | 13:49 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: that mean unlimited bandwidth? | 13:49 |
| Riddell | that's from the hosteurope admin page | 13:49 |
| kdeuser56 | lsb_release does not state anything about Kubuntu ... only says Ubuntu | 13:50 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: yes | 13:51 |
| apachelogger | kdeuser56: you cannot | 13:51 |
| Riddell | kubuntu is just a selection of packages from ubuntu, there is no difference | 13:51 |
| apachelogger | you could check if kubuntu-settings-desktop is installed, which is a good indicator, but you can just as well have that package installed on an ubuntu desktop installation | 13:52 |
| Riddell | ubuntu unity is another selection of packages, they just like to take the default name | 13:52 |
| kdeuser56 | apachelogger: how does the kcmmodule do it then (About System)? is that hardcoded? | 13:52 |
| apachelogger | that being said, you can detect the desktop you run in and then brand accordingly | 13:52 |
| apachelogger | kdeuser56: hardcoded in kubuntu-settings | 13:52 |
| apachelogger | i.e. kubuntu-settings will force it to brand as kubuntu | 13:53 |
| apachelogger | without that package it will also say Ubuntu in the about system kcm | 13:53 |
| kdeuser56 | apachelogger: thanks | 14:01 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: casper scripts/casper-bottom/15autologin | 14:56 |
| yofel | apachelogger: that's workspace with qttools added again for now, should be in next too so feel free to remove it | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | yofel: dangerous, I always almost delete the ppa :P | 15:08 |
| yofel | heck, I wrote klearppa for mass deleting packages. Go and use that | 15:08 |
| yofel | usability patches welcome :P | 15:09 |
| apachelogger | but I don't want mass delete | 15:15 |
| apachelogger | I want selective delete | 15:15 |
| yofel | it asks you y/n for every package by default | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | I don't want to say y/n for every package either :P | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | I want to say delete foo and delete bar | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | :P | 15:17 |
| yofel | as I said, usability improvements welcome :P | 15:18 |
| Riddell | http://www.it-muenchen-blog.de/2014/07/bug-squashing-party-2014/ munich sprint now public! | 15:18 |
| Riddell | seems they're having some politics with the local provost | 15:18 |
| apachelogger | there's yet another list where I have to put my name | 15:22 |
| apachelogger | jebus | 15:22 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: how do you recommend autostarting polkit kde | 15:30 |
| shadeslayer | like, hooks on the ISO? | 15:31 |
| shadeslayer | package links? | 15:31 |
| kubotu | feed branches had 25 updates, showing the latest 6 | 15:43 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: poke poke | 15:46 |
| apachelogger | did I not say that yesterday? | 15:47 |
| apachelogger | the relevant packages should be fixed to install to etc/xdg/autostart | 15:47 |
| shadeslayer | ok | 15:47 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: *install* ? | 15:48 |
| shadeslayer | or link? | 15:48 |
| shadeslayer | ah nbm | 15:50 |
| kubotu | feed branches had 13 updates, showing the latest 6 | 16:44 |
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| lordievader | Good evening. | 18:07 |
| soee | System Settings -> Applications -> Paths ; it is impossible to change /home/soee/Desktop to /home/soee/Pulpit or other name | 19:15 |
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| soee | other paths i can modify withput eny problem | 19:15 |
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| kubotu | feed branches had 25 updates, showing the latest 6 | 21:45 |
| valorie | hmm, upgrade to utopic failed on the other laptop because packages couldn't be downloaded | 22:18 |
| soee | :) | 22:18 |
| valorie | didn't we fix it so wireless continues to work during an upgrade? | 22:18 |
| Riddell | you think network-manager stopped? | 22:19 |
| valorie | it was working away when I went to bed | 22:19 |
| Riddell | oh but you are on plasma 5, I wonder if that affects it | 22:19 |
| valorie | that was the message when I woke up the screen | 22:19 |
| Riddell | it'll remove plasma-nm from the ppa I expect | 22:19 |
| valorie | I restarted the process, so I'll see now | 22:19 |
| valorie | ah | 22:20 |
| genii | Was having constant hash mismatch today on the ddebs repo, disabled it for now (14.10). | 22:20 |
| valorie | I guess I better get the wire out then | 22:20 |
| Riddell | sorry for the hassle valorie, thanks for being a guinea pig | 22:22 |
| valorie | not a problem | 22:22 |
| valorie | that's precisely why I'm doing it | 22:22 |
| valorie | shame to let a decent laptop sit idle! | 22:22 |
| valorie | it is reporting getting files, so perhaps it was just a glitch last night | 22:24 |
| soee | 4.13.90 = beta3 ? | 22:24 |
| kubotu | feed branches had 21 updates, showing the latest 6 | 22:45 |
| valorie | upgrade succeeding so far, no glitches | 22:59 |
| valorie | still from the neon session | 22:59 |
| valorie | :-) | 22:59 |
| valorie | omg running utopic on the other laptop | 23:25 |
| valorie | now installing neon to take it over completely | 23:25 |
| valorie | excitment! | 23:25 |
| valorie | rebooting.... | 23:37 |
| valorie | everything looks excellent | 23:39 |
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