| willcooke | hello all | 06:55 |
|---|---|---|
| * willcooke yawns | 06:55 | |
| willcooke | I should make coffee *then* switch the computer on | 06:55 |
| * willcooke goes to make coffee | 06:55 | |
| didrocks | good morning willcooke! | 07:02 |
| didrocks | we all do the same mistake :p | 07:02 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers! | 07:03 |
| mvo_ | willcooke: you should have someone who makes you coffee and switches the computer on for you :P I hope my kids will eventually do this for me, so far, no luck :/ | 07:05 |
| mvo_ | hey seb128 and didrocks | 07:05 |
| didrocks | hey seb128, mvo_! | 07:05 |
| seb128 | hey didrocks, mvo_, willcooke | 07:05 |
| didrocks | mvo_: lol, they are not trained enough :) | 07:05 |
| seb128 | mvo_, what's the point of making kids of that's not for that, right? | 07:05 |
| mvo_ | didrocks: no, they are not, I guess I'm not strict enough :/ | 07:06 |
| willcooke | :D | 07:06 |
| mvo_ | seb128: exactly! | 07:06 |
| seb128 | (of->if) | 07:06 |
| didrocks | mvo_: time to level up the game! :) | 07:06 |
| mvo_ | seb128: that was the plan: train them to do the tea making, washing, cleaning. did't work though | 07:07 |
| seb128 | waouh, you planned to let other people handle your tea?! ;-) | 07:07 |
| didrocks | I would have never thought he would | 07:07 |
| mvo_ | lol | 07:07 |
| mvo_ | only special trusty^Wtrusted people | 07:08 |
| mvo_ | seb128: but business, I send the gobject-introspection multi-arch patch to debian now, I think its pretty uncontroversial, pitti already acked it :) it just needs some coordination, but I may be away tomorrow/early next week so I just send it so that the diff does not get lost | 07:10 |
| mvo_ | seb128: you made me fix it proper instead of going the cheap route ;) | 07:10 |
| TheMuso | Hey folks. | 07:14 |
| willcooke | hi TheMuso | 07:15 |
| seb128 | mvo_, thanks for doing it the proper way ;-) | 07:15 |
| mvo_ | hey TheMuso | 07:15 |
| seb128 | hey TheMuso, long time not seen, how are you? | 07:15 |
| TheMuso | Not too bad thanks seb128. Yourself? | 07:15 |
| seb128 | I'm good, thanks | 07:15 |
| TheMuso | I've been around of course, just not always on this late. | 07:16 |
| seb128 | right, it's just that our tz don't overlap much | 07:16 |
| seb128 | same with robert_ancell | 07:16 |
| TheMuso | Indeed. | 07:16 |
| robert_ancell | who is this seb128 characetr? | 07:16 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 et mvo, comment allez-vous ? | 07:16 |
| robert_ancell | willcooke, hi! | 07:16 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, hey! what are you still doing online? ;-) | 07:16 |
| willcooke | TheMuso, what time is it for you? The directory said this was like 5pm?! | 07:16 |
| didrocks | hey TheMuso, pitti, robert_ancell :) | 07:16 |
| pitti | ça va didrocks | 07:16 |
| willcooke | robert_ancell, hi!! | 07:16 |
| pitti | group hug! | 07:17 |
| TheMuso | willcooke: 17:16 | 07:17 |
| didrocks | pitti: ça va bien, et toi ? | 07:17 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, was on a meeting with one of you pesky euro-timezoners | 07:17 |
| seb128 | pitti, hey! | 07:17 |
| willcooke | TheMuso, Ahh - ok, not tooo bad then. Sorry to spoil the end of your day :D | 07:17 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, hehe | 07:17 |
| TheMuso | willcooke: Its fine, I finish about 16:30 usually, so its no big deal. | 07:17 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, that's a good reason then! | 07:17 |
| pitti | didrocks: j'encore batts avec ddeb-retriever, sinon bien, merci :) | 07:17 |
| willcooke | robert_ancell, I think your idea about rotating the meetings makes sense, I'll get something set up today | 07:17 |
| didrocks | pitti: oh, ppa with ddebs <-> launchpad synchronization? | 07:17 |
| pitti | didrocks: "bats" | 07:18 |
| robert_ancell | willcooke, great | 07:18 |
| pitti | didrocks: yeah, writing half of soyuz in there :/ | 07:18 |
| didrocks | waow :/ | 07:18 |
| * didrocks console pitti | 07:18 | |
| seb128 | pitti, ddebs in soyuz ftw! | 07:19 |
| * pitti ^5s seb128 | 07:19 | |
| robert_ancell | seb128, larsu, so you guys can build gtk+3.0 with no problems right? | 07:23 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, correct | 07:24 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, not sure what is different for you :/ | 07:25 |
| seb128 | did you try to throw it to a ppa to see what happens? | 07:25 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, I didn't but I suspect it will compile fine | 07:25 |
| robert_ancell | So annoying, I can't find anything different here | 07:25 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, did you get anywhere trying to debug/see what goes wrong? | 07:27 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, no. It's a child process in the tests that fails. It doesn't dump core and I didn't see any output from iot | 07:28 |
| robert_ancell | When I run the tests manually they work fine | 07:28 |
| seb128 | :-( | 07:28 |
| robert_ancell | very odd | 07:28 |
| seb128 | indeed | 07:29 |
| willcooke | Heisenbug eh? | 07:29 |
| seb128 | can you hack the code of that process to make it output in a log? | 07:29 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, yeah, that was the next plan. But it takes so long to run each time :) | 07:33 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, do you need to start a new build each time? | 07:37 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, yes | 07:37 |
| seb128 | urg | 07:37 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, did you try to "debuild binary" in the builddir? | 07:37 |
| robert_ancell | yes | 07:37 |
| seb128 | and the tests are fine then? | 07:38 |
| robert_ancell | hmm, It just failed then. I was running debian/rules binary I think. What's the difference? | 07:38 |
| seb128 | no differenc | 07:39 |
| seb128 | but that's not a new build | 07:39 |
| seb128 | it picks up at running the target that didn't success | 07:39 |
| seb128 | e.g not clean and rebuild | 07:39 |
| seb128 | it should resume at make/make check, no? | 07:39 |
| robert_ancell | yes, and debian/rules binary was doing that too, expect the tests were passing | 07:40 |
| seb128 | wth | 07:40 |
| robert_ancell | yeah, I just ran 'fakeroot debian/rules binary' and they pass | 07:40 |
| seb128 | that should be under the same env that the first build | 07:40 |
| seb128 | weeeird | 07:41 |
| willcooke | TheMuso, lost you | 07:41 |
| TheMuso | hrm ok, will rejoin. | 07:41 |
| TheMuso | willcooke: I'm back in. | 07:43 |
| chrisccoulson | anyone fancy looking at https://launchpadlibrarian.net/180426228/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-i386.firefox_32.0~a2~hg20140721r201379-0ubuntu1~umd1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz ? ;) | 08:48 |
| chrisccoulson | the next person who speaks volunteers automatically | 08:49 |
| * chrisccoulson trap set | 08:49 | |
| desrt | chrisccoulson: hi! how are you today?! | 08:54 |
| chrisccoulson | desrt, hah! :) | 08:55 |
| desrt | chrisccoulson: you wish ;) | 08:55 |
| chrisccoulson | desrt, I'm great thanks. At least, I am now! | 08:55 |
| chrisccoulson | how are you? | 08:55 |
| chrisccoulson | (and commiserations btw) | 08:55 |
| chrisccoulson | :) | 08:55 |
| seb128 | \o/, desrt unmuted the channel, thanks | 08:55 |
| seb128 | hey chrisccoulson ;-) | 08:56 |
| chrisccoulson | hi :) | 08:56 |
| chrisccoulson | This is going to be a tricky one to fix, I bet. Only happens on trusty i386 and it happen, s when compiling the startup cache | 09:00 |
| chrisccoulson | oops | 09:00 |
| desrt | chrisccoulson: i'm good, but i have no work to do | 09:00 |
| desrt | nobody gave me any tasks recently | 09:00 |
| desrt | actually | 09:00 |
| chrisccoulson | desrt, i could fix that. I have *loads* to do :) | 09:00 |
| desrt | i just got an idea for something to work on | 09:00 |
| desrt | chrisccoulson: sorry. already doing something now. :) | 09:01 |
| chrisccoulson | desrt, if you ever fancy any browser stuff, https://bugs.launchpad.net/oxide ;) | 09:01 |
| * didrocks will try to exercise a little bit earlier | 09:17 | |
| didrocks | and avoiding too warm temperatures | 09:17 |
| didrocks | (already too late, but well, this refactoring wouldn't finish by itself! :p) | 09:18 |
| seb128 | didrocks, good luck then! | 09:25 |
| didrocks | thanks :) | 09:25 |
| seb128 | didrocks, and good afternoon if I'm off when you come back | 09:25 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, thanks! enjoy it :) | 09:25 |
| seb128 | I think I'm going to stop around 13, having the afternoon off today | 09:25 |
| seb128 | didrocks, thanks ;-) | 09:25 |
| willcooke | Hi guys | 10:05 |
| willcooke | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-maverick-rootless-x | 10:05 |
| willcooke | :) | 10:05 |
| willcooke | Could we resurrect that? What's the story there? | 10:05 |
| seb128 | willcooke, why? | 10:10 |
| willcooke | seb128, seems like a good idea, running X not as root | 10:11 |
| seb128 | the Mir guys are working on support for that in Mir iirc | 10:11 |
| seb128 | well, it didn't happen in all those years, I don't think it makes sense now | 10:11 |
| seb128 | better get Mir right and use that | 10:11 |
| willcooke | sure, but that's $time away. I know what you're saying though, in the long term it doesnt make sense, but if it'a both easy and quick - why not do it? | 10:12 |
| willcooke | I fully expect you to say that it's neither easy or quick :) | 10:12 |
| seb128 | right, that's what I was going to say | 10:15 |
| seb128 | that and desktop has no Xorg maintainer left | 10:15 |
| seb128 | those competences got moved to Mir and kernel teams | 10:15 |
| willcooke | good point | 10:15 |
| seb128 | see you tomorrow everyone (I've the afternoon as half a day off work) | 10:58 |
| asac | seb come back plz :( | 11:15 |
| ogra_ | ... and approve my developer-mode branch for system-settings ! | 11:15 |
| willcooke | didrocks, can you take a look at that please ^^^^^^^ | 11:22 |
| didrocks | willcooke: I didn't touch the system-settings code, seb and Laney are owner because the desktop team was in charge of it | 11:23 |
| willcooke | ah ok | 11:23 |
| didrocks | willcooke: but bill filler team got full time resources and is the real owner | 11:23 |
| willcooke | asac, ogra_ - what needs doing, and when? | 11:24 |
| asac | willcooke: my question was about what i said in /msg ... ogra needs a MP review it seems (dont know details) | 11:24 |
| ogra_ | willcooke, i need approval for https://code.launchpad.net/~ogra/ubuntu-system-settings/developer-mode/+merge/227822 | 11:24 |
| willcooke | asac, ok, so we're good. | 11:25 |
| asac | ack | 11:25 |
| willcooke | ogra_, sounds like we need to track down someone in Bill's team | 11:25 |
| ogra_ | willcooke, right ... it is just that Laney and seb did the initial review ... i can find someone else | 11:25 |
| willcooke | Laney, can you advise ogra_ on the best person to speak to? | 11:26 |
| willcooke | or, ya know, just do it ;) | 11:26 |
| ogra_ | i'll fond someone ... i think Laney is traveling | 11:27 |
| ogra_ | *find | 11:27 |
| willcooke | kk, thx ogra_ | 11:27 |
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| desrt | larsu: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=732754 | 12:38 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 732754 in gdbus "GDBusMessage: optimise (de)serialisation of fixed arrays" [Normal,Reopened] | 12:38 |
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| desrt | mhr3: hey! | 12:50 |
| desrt | mhr3: your country is cool! | 12:50 |
| mhr3 | desrt, heh | 12:50 |
| mhr3 | desrt, so i suppose you didn't run out of things to do? :) | 12:51 |
| desrt | certainly not | 12:51 |
| desrt | i almost didn't sleep, in fact | 12:51 |
| mhr3 | desrt, because of the missing ac? ;) | 12:52 |
| desrt | no.... too much interesting stuff to do | 12:52 |
| desrt | probably will go again next year, if not sooner already... | 12:52 |
| * desrt got invites to a bunch of similar parties in other countries | 12:52 | |
| desrt | it's in banska bystrica next year | 12:53 |
| mhr3 | but yea, if things are organized properly slovakia is very enjoyable :) | 12:53 |
| desrt | larsu laughs at your last comment :) | 12:54 |
| mhr3 | desrt, does he have stories to tell when that wasn't the case? :) | 12:57 |
| * larsu can laugh for himself! | 12:57 | |
| larsu | haha | 12:57 |
| desrt | ^ he didn't actually laugh right then | 12:57 |
| larsu | MacSlow: what does the x-canconial-switch-to-application hint on a notification do? | 13:05 |
| MacSlow | larsu, that marks a notification to be an interactive notification... one action can be passed and can be triggered by tapping the whole notification... main use-case sms-reception notification | 13:08 |
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| larsu | MacSlow: thanks. | 13:16 |
| * larsu is reviewing code using that right now | 13:16 | |
| MacSlow | larsu, the name of that hint should be changed... but back than that "switch to app" was the only use-case. | 13:17 |
| willcooke | hey Sweetshark - are you good for our meeting now? I see you didnt accept yet, maybe you can't make now? | 13:33 |
| Sweetshark | willcooke: oh | 13:33 |
| Sweetshark | willcooke: likely Im just using the other account ... | 13:34 |
| willcooke | Sweetshark, we can reschedule if you like? | 13:34 |
| Sweetshark | willcooke: no, Im fine with now. | 13:35 |
| Sweetshark | willcooke: just trying to find the invite ;) | 13:35 |
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| desrt | Laney: this shotwell bug is a tough egg to crack :( | 14:32 |
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| desrt | Laney: i take it back. vala bug. :( | 14:53 |
| desrt | it makes a _copy_ of the mutex and unlocks the copy | 14:53 |
| desrt | that used to be OK when the only thing in there was a pointer..... one copy of the pointer is just as good as the next | 14:55 |
| desrt | but now that we put actual state in there..... not so cool.... | 14:55 |
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| * didrocks waves good evening and good bye | 16:06 | |
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| willcooke | right, EODing now all. See you tomrrow | 18:07 |
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