[06:55] hello all [06:55] * willcooke yawns [06:55] I should make coffee *then* switch the computer on [06:55] * willcooke goes to make coffee [07:02] good morning willcooke! [07:02] we all do the same mistake :p [07:03] good morning desktopers! [07:05] willcooke: you should have someone who makes you coffee and switches the computer on for you :P I hope my kids will eventually do this for me, so far, no luck :/ [07:05] hey seb128 and didrocks [07:05] hey seb128, mvo_! [07:05] hey didrocks, mvo_, willcooke [07:05] mvo_: lol, they are not trained enough :) [07:05] mvo_, what's the point of making kids of that's not for that, right? [07:06] didrocks: no, they are not, I guess I'm not strict enough :/ [07:06] :D [07:06] seb128: exactly! [07:06] (of->if) [07:06] mvo_: time to level up the game! :) [07:07] seb128: that was the plan: train them to do the tea making, washing, cleaning. did't work though [07:07] waouh, you planned to let other people handle your tea?! ;-) [07:07] I would have never thought he would [07:07] lol [07:08] only special trusty^Wtrusted people [07:10] seb128: but business, I send the gobject-introspection multi-arch patch to debian now, I think its pretty uncontroversial, pitti already acked it :) it just needs some coordination, but I may be away tomorrow/early next week so I just send it so that the diff does not get lost [07:10] seb128: you made me fix it proper instead of going the cheap route ;) [07:14] Hey folks. [07:15] hi TheMuso [07:15] mvo_, thanks for doing it the proper way ;-) [07:15] hey TheMuso [07:15] hey TheMuso, long time not seen, how are you? [07:15] Not too bad thanks seb128. Yourself? [07:15] I'm good, thanks [07:16] I've been around of course, just not always on this late. [07:16] right, it's just that our tz don't overlap much [07:16] same with robert_ancell [07:16] Indeed. [07:16] who is this seb128 characetr? [07:16] bonjour seb128 et mvo, comment allez-vous ? [07:16] willcooke, hi! [07:16] robert_ancell, hey! what are you still doing online? ;-) [07:16] TheMuso, what time is it for you? The directory said this was like 5pm?! [07:16] hey TheMuso, pitti, robert_ancell :) [07:16] ça va didrocks [07:16] robert_ancell, hi!! [07:17] group hug! [07:17] willcooke: 17:16 [07:17] pitti: ça va bien, et toi ? [07:17] seb128, was on a meeting with one of you pesky euro-timezoners [07:17] pitti, hey! [07:17] TheMuso, Ahh - ok, not tooo bad then. Sorry to spoil the end of your day :D [07:17] robert_ancell, hehe [07:17] willcooke: Its fine, I finish about 16:30 usually, so its no big deal. [07:17] robert_ancell, that's a good reason then! [07:17] didrocks: j'encore batts avec ddeb-retriever, sinon bien, merci :) [07:17] robert_ancell, I think your idea about rotating the meetings makes sense, I'll get something set up today [07:17] pitti: oh, ppa with ddebs <-> launchpad synchronization? [07:18] didrocks: "bats" [07:18] willcooke, great [07:18] didrocks: yeah, writing half of soyuz in there :/ [07:18] waow :/ [07:18] * didrocks console pitti [07:19] pitti, ddebs in soyuz ftw! [07:19] * pitti ^5s seb128 [07:23] seb128, larsu, so you guys can build gtk+3.0 with no problems right? [07:24] robert_ancell, correct [07:25] robert_ancell, not sure what is different for you :/ [07:25] did you try to throw it to a ppa to see what happens? [07:25] seb128, I didn't but I suspect it will compile fine [07:25] So annoying, I can't find anything different here [07:27] robert_ancell, did you get anywhere trying to debug/see what goes wrong? [07:28] seb128, no. It's a child process in the tests that fails. It doesn't dump core and I didn't see any output from iot [07:28] When I run the tests manually they work fine [07:28] :-( [07:28] very odd [07:29] indeed [07:29] Heisenbug eh? [07:29] can you hack the code of that process to make it output in a log? [07:33] seb128, yeah, that was the next plan. But it takes so long to run each time :) [07:37] robert_ancell, do you need to start a new build each time? [07:37] seb128, yes [07:37] urg [07:37] robert_ancell, did you try to "debuild binary" in the builddir? [07:37] yes [07:38] and the tests are fine then? [07:38] hmm, It just failed then. I was running debian/rules binary I think. What's the difference? [07:39] no differenc [07:39] but that's not a new build [07:39] it picks up at running the target that didn't success [07:39] e.g not clean and rebuild [07:39] it should resume at make/make check, no? [07:40] yes, and debian/rules binary was doing that too, expect the tests were passing [07:40] wth [07:40] yeah, I just ran 'fakeroot debian/rules binary' and they pass [07:40] that should be under the same env that the first build [07:41] weeeird [07:41] TheMuso, lost you [07:41] hrm ok, will rejoin. [07:43] willcooke: I'm back in. [08:48] anyone fancy looking at https://launchpadlibrarian.net/180426228/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-i386.firefox_32.0~a2~hg20140721r201379-0ubuntu1~umd1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz ? ;) [08:49] the next person who speaks volunteers automatically [08:49] * chrisccoulson trap set [08:54] chrisccoulson: hi! how are you today?! [08:55] desrt, hah! :) [08:55] chrisccoulson: you wish ;) [08:55] desrt, I'm great thanks. At least, I am now! [08:55] how are you? [08:55] (and commiserations btw) [08:55] :) [08:55] \o/, desrt unmuted the channel, thanks [08:56] hey chrisccoulson ;-) [08:56] hi :) [09:00] This is going to be a tricky one to fix, I bet. Only happens on trusty i386 and it happen, s when compiling the startup cache [09:00] oops [09:00] chrisccoulson: i'm good, but i have no work to do [09:00] nobody gave me any tasks recently [09:00] actually [09:00] desrt, i could fix that. I have *loads* to do :) [09:00] i just got an idea for something to work on [09:01] chrisccoulson: sorry. already doing something now. :) [09:01] desrt, if you ever fancy any browser stuff, https://bugs.launchpad.net/oxide ;) [09:17] * didrocks will try to exercise a little bit earlier [09:17] and avoiding too warm temperatures [09:18] (already too late, but well, this refactoring wouldn't finish by itself! :p) [09:25] didrocks, good luck then! [09:25] thanks :) [09:25] didrocks, and good afternoon if I'm off when you come back [09:25] seb128: yeah, thanks! enjoy it :) [09:25] I think I'm going to stop around 13, having the afternoon off today [09:25] didrocks, thanks ;-) [10:05] Hi guys [10:05] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-maverick-rootless-x [10:05] :) [10:05] Could we resurrect that? What's the story there? [10:10] willcooke, why? [10:11] seb128, seems like a good idea, running X not as root [10:11] the Mir guys are working on support for that in Mir iirc [10:11] well, it didn't happen in all those years, I don't think it makes sense now [10:11] better get Mir right and use that [10:12] sure, but that's $time away. I know what you're saying though, in the long term it doesnt make sense, but if it'a both easy and quick - why not do it? [10:12] I fully expect you to say that it's neither easy or quick :) [10:15] right, that's what I was going to say [10:15] that and desktop has no Xorg maintainer left [10:15] those competences got moved to Mir and kernel teams [10:15] good point [10:58] see you tomorrow everyone (I've the afternoon as half a day off work) [11:15] seb come back plz :( [11:15] ... and approve my developer-mode branch for system-settings ! [11:22] didrocks, can you take a look at that please ^^^^^^^ [11:23] willcooke: I didn't touch the system-settings code, seb and Laney are owner because the desktop team was in charge of it [11:23] ah ok [11:23] willcooke: but bill filler team got full time resources and is the real owner [11:24] asac, ogra_ - what needs doing, and when? [11:24] willcooke: my question was about what i said in /msg ... ogra needs a MP review it seems (dont know details) [11:24] willcooke, i need approval for https://code.launchpad.net/~ogra/ubuntu-system-settings/developer-mode/+merge/227822 [11:25] asac, ok, so we're good. [11:25] ack [11:25] ogra_, sounds like we need to track down someone in Bill's team [11:25] willcooke, right ... it is just that Laney and seb did the initial review ... i can find someone else [11:26] Laney, can you advise ogra_ on the best person to speak to? [11:26] or, ya know, just do it ;) [11:27] i'll fond someone ... i think Laney is traveling [11:27] *find [11:27] kk, thx ogra_ === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:38] larsu: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=732754 [12:38] Gnome bug 732754 in gdbus "GDBusMessage: optimise (de)serialisation of fixed arrays" [Normal,Reopened] === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:50] mhr3: hey! [12:50] mhr3: your country is cool! [12:50] desrt, heh [12:51] desrt, so i suppose you didn't run out of things to do? :) [12:51] certainly not [12:51] i almost didn't sleep, in fact [12:52] desrt, because of the missing ac? ;) [12:52] no.... too much interesting stuff to do [12:52] probably will go again next year, if not sooner already... [12:52] * desrt got invites to a bunch of similar parties in other countries [12:53] it's in banska bystrica next year [12:53] but yea, if things are organized properly slovakia is very enjoyable :) [12:54] larsu laughs at your last comment :) [12:57] desrt, does he have stories to tell when that wasn't the case? :) [12:57] * larsu can laugh for himself! [12:57] haha [12:57] ^ he didn't actually laugh right then [13:05] MacSlow: what does the x-canconial-switch-to-application hint on a notification do? [13:08] larsu, that marks a notification to be an interactive notification... one action can be passed and can be triggered by tapping the whole notification... main use-case sms-reception notification === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:16] MacSlow: thanks. [13:16] * larsu is reviewing code using that right now [13:17] larsu, the name of that hint should be changed... but back than that "switch to app" was the only use-case. [13:33] hey Sweetshark - are you good for our meeting now? I see you didnt accept yet, maybe you can't make now? [13:33] willcooke: oh [13:34] willcooke: likely Im just using the other account ... [13:34] Sweetshark, we can reschedule if you like? [13:35] willcooke: no, Im fine with now. [13:35] willcooke: just trying to find the invite ;) === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea [14:32] Laney: this shotwell bug is a tough egg to crack :( === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g === oCrazyLem is now known as CrazyLemon [14:53] Laney: i take it back. vala bug. :( [14:53] it makes a _copy_ of the mutex and unlocks the copy [14:55] that used to be OK when the only thing in there was a pointer..... one copy of the pointer is just as good as the next [14:55] but now that we put actual state in there..... not so cool.... === gatox is now known as gatox_lunch === mjohnson151 is now known as mjohnson15 [16:06] * didrocks waves good evening and good bye === mjohnson151 is now known as mjohnson15 === gatox_lunch is now known as gatox === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [18:07] right, EODing now all. See you tomrrow === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley === JanC_ is now known as JanC