[02:12] <shrinivasan> hello friends
[02:13] <shrinivasan> this is shrini from chennai
[02:13] <shrinivasan> looking the manual testing tasks
[02:13] <shrinivasan> shall I write some tests?
[02:15] <shrinivasan> anybody there?
[03:49] <pitti> Good morning
[06:48] <jibel> good morning
[06:51] <elfy> good morning jibel
[07:05] <jibel> Good morning elfy
[08:58] <davmor2> jibel: whats happening image wise do you want to hit anything else? Also would you like me to grab a 12.04 image drop it on mac and run an upgrade test?
[09:26] <xnox> phillw: no, not yet. we'd need livecd-rootfs update to get it in. it wasn't there for 14.04.0 and it looks like will only be enabled for 14.04.2
[09:44] <jibel> davmor2, a sanity check of netboot images on i386 and amd64 would be nice
[09:44] <davmor2> jibel: no worries I'll get on it when I come back
[09:46] <jibel> davmor2, do you have the windows machines, do you know who has them in the team?
[10:03] <davmor2> jibel: I have a windows 7 box
[10:03] <davmor2> jibel: I can also drop windows 8 back onto my laptop too
[10:05] <jibel> davmor2, would you have time to verify this case http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/318/builds/73658/testcases/1304/results
[10:05] <jibel> vmware easy install
[11:36] <davmor2> jibel: vmware done, netboots installing as we speak, anything else
[11:37] <jibel> davmor2, that'll be all for today sir. I'm waiting for the results of server tests.
[11:39] <davmor2> jibel: is it me or is netboot not actually on the 14.04.1 list
[11:39] <jibel> davmor2, it is not on the list because the release has been open on the tracker after the netboot image had been published
[11:39] <jibel> I'll add them
[11:40] <davmor2> jibel: ah no worries
[11:41] <pitti> balloons: in case you didn't see: you can now leave out the /usr/share/autopkgtest/... prefix for --setup-commands and the adb ssh setup script
[11:41] <pitti> balloons: makes command lines quite a bit shorter/nicer :)
[11:42] <jibel> davmor2, done, you can add your results
[12:46] <average_guy> the link to mini.iso in the tracker is broken
[12:47] <average_guy> for Trusty
[12:58] <davmor2> jibel: ubuntu-desktop install via netboot complete on i386 and amd64 all good
[13:04] <jibel> davmor2, thanks
[13:08] <balloons> average_guy, which liunk?
[13:08] <balloons> pitti, oO so what does the short command look like now?
[13:09] <pitti> balloons: I mean "ssh -s adb" instead of "ssh -s /usr/share/autopkgtest/ssh-setup/adb"
[13:09] <pitti> balloons: and likewise with --setup-commands ubuntu-touch-session
[13:09] <pitti> balloons: i. e. it looks for the arguments in both . and /usr/share/autopkgtest/...
[13:09] <average_guy> 14.04.1/netboot/Link to download information/http
[13:10] <balloons> pitti, ahh much nicer
[13:12] <average_guy> both architectures balloons
[13:12] <balloons> average_guy, I'll try and fix in a big
[14:02] <balloons> elopio, we should chat about music-app
[14:04] <elopio> balloons: we should.
[14:04] <elopio> balloons: let me read all the pings from the backscroll
[14:09] <elopio> ok, things were a lot better than what I expected :D
[14:09] <elopio> balloons: so, music app.
[14:09] <elopio> the tests are not in good shape.
[14:09] <elopio> many small changes are likely to break them.
[14:10] <balloons> elopio, yes I've been talking with andrew about them for a bit. We've been planning to rewrite them
[14:11] <balloons> but something beat us to the punch it seems. What happened that everything is failig now?
[14:11] <elopio> balloons: I can do some initial refactors next week.
[14:12] <elopio> balloons: first, there's a helper that searches for a button by position
[14:12] <elopio> and now it's 2 pixels below.
[14:12] <balloons> elopio, as an aside, the first lightening talk video seems to be private, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKr1xxbz6Ws
[14:12] <balloons> elopio, ohh.. heh, by position..
[14:12] <elopio> and the second thing, it's not using the go_back from the toolkit
[14:12] <balloons> that one I knew about.. it had a custom back button
[14:13] <elopio> but overall, we have been lucky that it has just started to fail. We need to make more objects, and higher level helpers.
[14:13] <elopio> also rely less on select_many.
[14:13] <elopio> balloons: yes, that's jfunk's video. jfunk: can you make that one public?
[14:15] <balloons> elopio, so in this interim, everything is failing period, are you hacking on tests to get them passing?
[14:15] <balloons> and do you need help?
[14:16] <elopio> balloons: I made one branch and timp did the other one.
[14:16] <jfunk> elopio: can you see it?
[14:16] <elopio> jfunk: I can if I log in with my canonical account.
[14:17] <jfunk> perfect
[14:17] <jfunk> in future, it's best if I don't host the calls
[14:18] <jfunk> since it overloads my attempts at a music career ;)
[14:18] <balloons> ahh, I see.. I'll copy it out so I can link to it :-)
[14:22] <elopio> jfunk: now the onair teams hosts the calls. I also made quite a mess while hosting them.
[14:50] <shrini> hello all
[14:50] <shrini> I added a manual test case today
[14:50] <shrini> hope it is good to start with it
[14:52] <slickymasterWork> shrini: it will have to be reviewed before being merged
[14:52] <slickymasterWork> did you assign a reviewer to it?
[14:52] <shrini> slickymasterWork: oh
[14:52] <balloons> it pings all of us.. I see https://code.launchpad.net/~shrini/ubuntu-manual-tests/shrini-dia/+merge/228126
[14:52] <shrini> whom to add as reviewer?
[14:53] <shrini> :-)
[14:53] <slickymasterWork> het balloons
[14:53] <shrini> yes
[14:53] <shrini> thats mine
[14:53]  * balloons waves
[14:53] <slickymasterWork> s/het/hey
[14:53]  * slickymasterWork waves back
[14:53] <balloons> I'll have a review of it a bit later.. looks good just having a peak
[14:53] <balloons> thanks for creating it!
[14:53] <shrini> thanks
[14:53] <slickymasterWork> I would review it balloons, but I don't have Dia in my Xub box :P
[14:54] <shrini> I am encouraging my wife to add more test cases
[14:54] <slickymasterWork> but if needed I can install it and check it out
[14:54] <elopio> brendand__: I'm fed and happy. We can meet whenever you want.
[14:54] <shrini> hope we both will add more test cases
[14:55] <shrini> so we have to add a reviewer on the merge request
[14:55] <shrini> whom to add?
[14:55] <balloons> shrini, no, it autoadds the testcase admins
[14:55] <balloons> that's enough unless you want someone specific
[14:55] <shrini> thats great
[14:55] <shrini> nice
[14:57] <brendand__> elfy, sure, i'll ping you in a few minutes
[14:57] <brendand__> and by elfy i meant elopio
[14:58] <elopio> I've learned to understand that.
[15:01] <balloons> if you have summoned elfy there's a manual test he could review ;-)
[15:16] <brendand__> elopio, let's go
[15:17] <elopio> brendand__: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/ux-team?hceid=Y2Fub25pY2FsLmNvbV91bnZxZzdzamhoMW11YzJxZ2FxZjA5a2p2NEBncm91cC5jYWxlbmRhci5nb29nbGUuY29t.lvb3jf2id9le0fha9d4v82q194
[15:17] <brendand__> elopio, i'm in
[15:46] <phillw> balloons: is there going to be a set of release notes for 14.04.1 ?
[15:57] <elfy> elopio: so have I ... ;)
[16:06] <jibel> phillw, there will be release notes. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes will be updated and will have a link to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/ChangeSummary/14.04.1
[16:07] <jibel> but it's not ready yet, so don't ask why it's a 404 :)
[16:07] <elfy> balloons: funnily enough elfy did that
[16:08] <phillw> jibel: thanks, if you can poke me when lubuntu one has an URL, I've been volunteered to fill it in :)
[16:09] <jibel> phillw, ah for lubuntu you can update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu
[16:09] <jibel> the main release notes will point to this doc
[16:09] <phillw> thanks
[16:10] <balloons> elfy, awesome :-)
[16:11] <elfy> I know :D
[16:11] <elfy> he he he
[16:14] <elfy> balloons: boo - I forgot to try out the inline thingymajig
[16:16] <balloons> elfy, yes, I noticed..
[16:16] <balloons> it's really pretty cool
[16:22] <elfy> balloons: certainly looks like it would deal with an ambiguity - even on something as small as a testcase
[16:22] <elfy> super useful in long code I should imagine - not that I would ever see that :p
[16:24] <balloons> some of those testcases were long originally
[16:24] <balloons> we've cleaned them up a bit, but :-) I'l guess you've seen a 500 line change
[16:41] <elopio> balloons: can you please re open this one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/account-plugins/+bug/1270264
[16:43] <balloons> elopio, done
[16:53] <elfy> balloons: I'm not sure who's watching manual tests atm - is it just really the 2 of us?
[16:54] <elfy> if that's the case - you can name me when you see them - leaves you free to worry about auto stuff
[16:54] <elfy> up to you
[16:54] <knome> you mean merges?
[16:54] <slickymasterWork> elfy: I try to keep an eye on the Xubuntu ones
[16:54] <balloons> elfy, everyone in this list gets pinged: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-testcase/+members#active
[16:55] <balloons> slickymasterWork, you could be on the list
[16:55] <balloons> done :-)
[16:55] <elfy> thanks balloons
[16:58] <balloons> that said, yes you or I have been hogging most of the recent reviews. Perhaps we should get some others to do so
[16:59] <slickymasterWork> ok balloons, thanks
[17:00] <balloons> evening to you knome
[17:01] <knome> hey balloons
[17:05] <knome> i guess there isn't any API for the QA websites for data mining?
[17:05] <balloons> a nice json api..
[17:05] <knome> oh
[17:05] <balloons> just for you knome ;-)
[17:05] <knome> lol
[17:05] <balloons> but no, it doesn't exist
[17:05] <knome> :<
[17:06] <knome> you're a monster
[17:09] <balloons> knome, I learned everything about IRC from you
[17:09] <balloons> :p
[17:10] <knome> ahah
[17:10] <knome> ok
[17:10] <knome> i'm off for a walk
[17:10] <balloons> enjoy!
[17:10] <knome> then i might be poking at the tracker
[17:10] <knome> >:)
[17:10] <knome> ta, and you too hf
[17:10] <knome> ->
[17:10] <balloons> knome, if you do start poking, I have a request
[17:10] <balloons> lol
[17:10] <knome> ok ;)
[17:10] <knome> ->
[17:11] <bdmurray> jibel: fixed
[19:30] <knome> balloons, ping
[19:33] <balloons> knome, pong
[19:33] <knome> you said you'd have a request?
[19:44] <balloons> ahh, yes..
[19:45] <balloons> so on the results page is the testcase, but it starts out collapsed. I think it's really confusing to people.
[19:47] <knome> aha, right... i wasn't looking in the tracker that way ;)
[19:47] <knome> but we still have some of the UI stuff pending (and in the repository), so if you could successfully prod stgraber, i could look into that kind of stuff as well
[19:49] <balloons> I wonder what we could offer? ;-)
[19:49] <balloons> cookies?
[19:49] <knome> maybe
[19:49] <knome> i need some food, so brb
[19:49] <balloons> knome, anyways, yea, carry on.. I was mostly teasing about the request
[19:51] <phillw> balloons: / jibel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ReleaseReports/TrustyPoint1TestingReport shows the report, but http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/318/builds shows as under testing?
[19:52] <balloons> until everything is marked as ready for release, etc, it will show that. The release manager will close it when it's done
[19:58] <phillw> balloons: aahhhh, slight problem... both at meetings
[20:41] <knome> balloons, well requests are fine tbh
[20:53] <cgoldberg> knome, balloons, in regards to the testcase pages...  are you referring to the current ci dashboard?
[20:54] <cgoldberg> knome, if so, there will soon be a json API like mentioned
[20:55] <knome> i'm referring to the manual testcase trackers (iso.qa. and packages.qa.)
[20:55] <balloons> cgoldberg, no, but that's cool news to hear
[20:55] <cgoldberg> ah
[20:55] <cgoldberg> balloons, yea.. jenkins is going away.. once the new CI Engine released, it will have a json API for test suite summaries and test case details
[20:56] <cgoldberg> i'm writing it now
[20:56] <balloons> so it will have the cgoldberg seal of approval then yes?
[20:56] <cgoldberg> for whatever that is worth ;)
[20:57] <cgoldberg> most everything in the new CI engine is microservices using json.. it's a cool architecture
[20:57]  * elfy just patiently waits for the day when waiting for historical data on tracker doesn't entail impatient waiting too
[21:02]  * knome wonders if that is something anybody can do anything about
[21:02] <knome> elfy, what is it what you are looking for in there?
[21:02] <balloons> yea, historical data takes forever to load
[21:02] <knome> maybe we could show a subset of that information somewhere else where it'd be quicker to get
[21:03] <elfy> knome: there's a bug for it somewhere
[21:04] <knome> fair enough, i'll find that
[21:04] <elfy> looking now
[21:05] <elfy> bug 1126449
[21:06] <elfy> not sure why balloons used 'difficult'
[21:06] <knome> :D
[21:06] <elfy> absolutely ridiculous is what I'd have said :p
[21:06] <balloons> PC terms used for launchpad
[21:07] <elfy> :)
[21:23] <phillw> very polite :P
[21:24] <phillw> Is there a release time for 14.04.1 ?
[21:26] <phillw> I was expecting ~ 21:00 UTC?
[21:27] <knome> there is never an exact release time, nothing should be expected
[21:27] <elfy> I expect the same as always
[21:27] <phillw> knome: stop quoting monty python and the spanish inqesition :P
[21:31] <phillw> bring back kate :D An admin who kept you all in check.
[21:33] <phillw> knome: elfy any idea as to when the news embargo is broken by the so called news sites? :)
[21:33] <knome> i don't maintain those, so nope.
[21:36] <phillw> okies... well the release notes for lubuntu are done... So... when ever :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu