[02:12] hello friends [02:13] this is shrini from chennai [02:13] looking the manual testing tasks [02:13] shall I write some tests? [02:15] anybody there? [03:49] Good morning === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [06:48] good morning [06:51] good morning jibel [07:05] Good morning elfy [08:58] jibel: whats happening image wise do you want to hit anything else? Also would you like me to grab a 12.04 image drop it on mac and run an upgrade test? === shuduo is now known as shuduo_afk [09:26] phillw: no, not yet. we'd need livecd-rootfs update to get it in. it wasn't there for 14.04.0 and it looks like will only be enabled for 14.04.2 [09:44] davmor2, a sanity check of netboot images on i386 and amd64 would be nice [09:44] jibel: no worries I'll get on it when I come back [09:46] davmor2, do you have the windows machines, do you know who has them in the team? [10:03] jibel: I have a windows 7 box [10:03] jibel: I can also drop windows 8 back onto my laptop too [10:05] davmor2, would you have time to verify this case http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/318/builds/73658/testcases/1304/results [10:05] vmware easy install === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === _salem is now known as salem_ [11:36] jibel: vmware done, netboots installing as we speak, anything else [11:37] davmor2, that'll be all for today sir. I'm waiting for the results of server tests. [11:39] jibel: is it me or is netboot not actually on the 14.04.1 list [11:39] davmor2, it is not on the list because the release has been open on the tracker after the netboot image had been published [11:39] I'll add them [11:40] jibel: ah no worries [11:41] balloons: in case you didn't see: you can now leave out the /usr/share/autopkgtest/... prefix for --setup-commands and the adb ssh setup script [11:41] balloons: makes command lines quite a bit shorter/nicer :) [11:42] davmor2, done, you can add your results === salem_ is now known as _salem [12:46] the link to mini.iso in the tracker is broken [12:47] for Trusty [12:58] jibel: ubuntu-desktop install via netboot complete on i386 and amd64 all good [13:04] davmor2, thanks [13:08] average_guy, which liunk? [13:08] pitti, oO so what does the short command look like now? [13:09] balloons: I mean "ssh -s adb" instead of "ssh -s /usr/share/autopkgtest/ssh-setup/adb" [13:09] balloons: and likewise with --setup-commands ubuntu-touch-session [13:09] balloons: i. e. it looks for the arguments in both . and /usr/share/autopkgtest/... [13:09] 14.04.1/netboot/Link to download information/http [13:10] pitti, ahh much nicer [13:12] both architectures balloons [13:12] average_guy, I'll try and fix in a big === _salem is now known as salem_ [14:02] elopio, we should chat about music-app [14:04] balloons: we should. [14:04] balloons: let me read all the pings from the backscroll [14:09] ok, things were a lot better than what I expected :D [14:09] balloons: so, music app. [14:09] the tests are not in good shape. [14:09] many small changes are likely to break them. [14:10] elopio, yes I've been talking with andrew about them for a bit. We've been planning to rewrite them [14:11] but something beat us to the punch it seems. What happened that everything is failig now? [14:11] balloons: I can do some initial refactors next week. [14:12] balloons: first, there's a helper that searches for a button by position [14:12] and now it's 2 pixels below. [14:12] elopio, as an aside, the first lightening talk video seems to be private, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKr1xxbz6Ws [14:12] elopio, ohh.. heh, by position.. [14:12] and the second thing, it's not using the go_back from the toolkit [14:12] that one I knew about.. it had a custom back button [14:13] but overall, we have been lucky that it has just started to fail. We need to make more objects, and higher level helpers. [14:13] also rely less on select_many. [14:13] balloons: yes, that's jfunk's video. jfunk: can you make that one public? [14:15] elopio, so in this interim, everything is failing period, are you hacking on tests to get them passing? [14:15] and do you need help? [14:16] balloons: I made one branch and timp did the other one. [14:16] elopio: can you see it? [14:16] jfunk: I can if I log in with my canonical account. [14:17] perfect [14:17] in future, it's best if I don't host the calls [14:18] since it overloads my attempts at a music career ;) [14:18] ahh, I see.. I'll copy it out so I can link to it :-) [14:22] jfunk: now the onair teams hosts the calls. I also made quite a mess while hosting them. [14:50] hello all [14:50] I added a manual test case today [14:50] hope it is good to start with it [14:52] shrini: it will have to be reviewed before being merged [14:52] did you assign a reviewer to it? [14:52] slickymasterWork: oh [14:52] it pings all of us.. I see https://code.launchpad.net/~shrini/ubuntu-manual-tests/shrini-dia/+merge/228126 [14:52] whom to add as reviewer? [14:53] :-) [14:53] het balloons [14:53] yes [14:53] thats mine [14:53] * balloons waves [14:53] s/het/hey [14:53] * slickymasterWork waves back [14:53] I'll have a review of it a bit later.. looks good just having a peak [14:53] thanks for creating it! [14:53] thanks [14:53] I would review it balloons, but I don't have Dia in my Xub box :P [14:54] I am encouraging my wife to add more test cases [14:54] but if needed I can install it and check it out [14:54] brendand__: I'm fed and happy. We can meet whenever you want. [14:54] hope we both will add more test cases [14:55] so we have to add a reviewer on the merge request [14:55] whom to add? [14:55] shrini, no, it autoadds the testcase admins [14:55] that's enough unless you want someone specific [14:55] thats great [14:55] nice [14:57] elfy, sure, i'll ping you in a few minutes [14:57] and by elfy i meant elopio [14:58] I've learned to understand that. [15:01] if you have summoned elfy there's a manual test he could review ;-) [15:16] elopio, let's go [15:17] brendand__: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/ux-team?hceid=Y2Fub25pY2FsLmNvbV91bnZxZzdzamhoMW11YzJxZ2FxZjA5a2p2NEBncm91cC5jYWxlbmRhci5nb29nbGUuY29t.lvb3jf2id9le0fha9d4v82q194 [15:17] elopio, i'm in === salem_ is now known as _salem [15:46] balloons: is there going to be a set of release notes for 14.04.1 ? [15:57] elopio: so have I ... ;) [16:06] phillw, there will be release notes. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes will be updated and will have a link to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/ChangeSummary/14.04.1 [16:07] but it's not ready yet, so don't ask why it's a 404 :) [16:07] balloons: funnily enough elfy did that [16:08] jibel: thanks, if you can poke me when lubuntu one has an URL, I've been volunteered to fill it in :) [16:09] phillw, ah for lubuntu you can update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu [16:09] the main release notes will point to this doc [16:09] thanks [16:10] elfy, awesome :-) [16:11] I know :D [16:11] he he he [16:14] balloons: boo - I forgot to try out the inline thingymajig [16:16] elfy, yes, I noticed.. [16:16] it's really pretty cool [16:22] balloons: certainly looks like it would deal with an ambiguity - even on something as small as a testcase [16:22] super useful in long code I should imagine - not that I would ever see that :p [16:24] some of those testcases were long originally [16:24] we've cleaned them up a bit, but :-) I'l guess you've seen a 500 line change === _salem is now known as salem_ [16:41] balloons: can you please re open this one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/account-plugins/+bug/1270264 [16:41] Launchpad bug 1270264 in Online Accounts: Account plugins "Accounts Console autopilot support" [Undecided,Fix released] [16:43] elopio, done [16:53] balloons: I'm not sure who's watching manual tests atm - is it just really the 2 of us? [16:54] if that's the case - you can name me when you see them - leaves you free to worry about auto stuff [16:54] up to you [16:54] you mean merges? [16:54] elfy: I try to keep an eye on the Xubuntu ones [16:54] elfy, everyone in this list gets pinged: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-testcase/+members#active [16:55] slickymasterWork, you could be on the list [16:55] done :-) [16:55] thanks balloons [16:58] that said, yes you or I have been hogging most of the recent reviews. Perhaps we should get some others to do so [16:59] ok balloons, thanks [17:00] evening to you knome [17:01] hey balloons [17:05] i guess there isn't any API for the QA websites for data mining? [17:05] a nice json api.. [17:05] oh [17:05] just for you knome ;-) [17:05] lol [17:05] but no, it doesn't exist [17:05] :< [17:06] you're a monster [17:09] knome, I learned everything about IRC from you [17:09] :p [17:10] ahah [17:10] ok [17:10] i'm off for a walk [17:10] enjoy! [17:10] then i might be poking at the tracker [17:10] >:) [17:10] ta, and you too hf [17:10] -> [17:10] knome, if you do start poking, I have a request [17:10] lol [17:10] ok ;) [17:10] -> [17:11] jibel: fixed === roadmr is now known as roadmr_afk [19:30] balloons, ping [19:33] knome, pong [19:33] you said you'd have a request? [19:44] ahh, yes.. [19:45] so on the results page is the testcase, but it starts out collapsed. I think it's really confusing to people. [19:47] aha, right... i wasn't looking in the tracker that way ;) [19:47] but we still have some of the UI stuff pending (and in the repository), so if you could successfully prod stgraber, i could look into that kind of stuff as well [19:49] I wonder what we could offer? ;-) [19:49] cookies? [19:49] maybe [19:49] i need some food, so brb [19:49] knome, anyways, yea, carry on.. I was mostly teasing about the request [19:51] balloons: / jibel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ReleaseReports/TrustyPoint1TestingReport shows the report, but http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/318/builds shows as under testing? [19:52] until everything is marked as ready for release, etc, it will show that. The release manager will close it when it's done [19:58] balloons: aahhhh, slight problem... both at meetings === roadmr_afk is now known as roadmr [20:41] balloons, well requests are fine tbh [20:53] knome, balloons, in regards to the testcase pages... are you referring to the current ci dashboard? [20:54] knome, if so, there will soon be a json API like mentioned [20:55] i'm referring to the manual testcase trackers (iso.qa. and packages.qa.) [20:55] cgoldberg, no, but that's cool news to hear [20:55] ah [20:55] balloons, yea.. jenkins is going away.. once the new CI Engine released, it will have a json API for test suite summaries and test case details [20:56] i'm writing it now [20:56] so it will have the cgoldberg seal of approval then yes? [20:56] for whatever that is worth ;) [20:57] most everything in the new CI engine is microservices using json.. it's a cool architecture [20:57] * elfy just patiently waits for the day when waiting for historical data on tracker doesn't entail impatient waiting too [21:02] * knome wonders if that is something anybody can do anything about [21:02] elfy, what is it what you are looking for in there? [21:02] yea, historical data takes forever to load [21:02] maybe we could show a subset of that information somewhere else where it'd be quicker to get [21:03] knome: there's a bug for it somewhere [21:04] fair enough, i'll find that [21:04] looking now [21:05] bug 1126449 [21:05] bug 1126449 in Ubuntu QA Website "Getting a historical results report for a product is difficult" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1126449 [21:06] not sure why balloons used 'difficult' [21:06] :D [21:06] absolutely ridiculous is what I'd have said :p [21:06] PC terms used for launchpad [21:07] :) [21:23] very polite :P [21:24] Is there a release time for 14.04.1 ? [21:26] I was expecting ~ 21:00 UTC? [21:27] there is never an exact release time, nothing should be expected [21:27] I expect the same as always [21:27] knome: stop quoting monty python and the spanish inqesition :P [21:31] bring back kate :D An admin who kept you all in check. [21:33] knome: elfy any idea as to when the news embargo is broken by the so called news sites? :) [21:33] i don't maintain those, so nope. [21:36] okies... well the release notes for lubuntu are done... So... when ever :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu === salem_ is now known as _salem