[00:54] <Unit193> PCLine_: Howdy.
[00:55] <PCLine_> Hello Unit193
[00:59] <Darkwing> Sup guys
[00:59] <belkinsa> o/
[01:00] <Darkwing> I'm still going to try and make it to OLF but... Not i
[01:00] <Darkwing> 100% sure
[01:00] <belkinsa> Poo, you know the Talk deadline is torromow?
[01:00] <belkinsa> tomorrow*
[01:00] <Darkwing> I want to do Kubuntu and Plasma 5 for Ubucon.
[01:01] <Darkwing> My twist is the wife is Due Oct 29
[01:01] <Unit193> Darkwing: Howdy.  And dang, bummer about that but at the same time congrats.
[01:01] <Darkwing> Thanks Unit193!
[01:02] <Darkwing> So, if I can pencil in a Kubuntu talk at Ubucon as a last talk *if* I make it?
[01:04] <andygraybeal> congrats dee doublu
[01:04] <andygraybeal> double-u
[01:04] <Darkwing> :-D
[01:04] <Darkwing> Also assuming that there is an HDMI plug alongside the VGA one.
[01:05] <Unit193> PCLine_: So, you're from Cincy, but what brought your attention to out neck of the woods?
[01:06] <belkinsa> Indeed.  Why?
[01:06] <Unit193> -t+r
[01:07] <PCLine_> Dayton
[01:07] <belkinsa> But your IP address says Cincy
[01:07] <jrgifford> My work IP address says i'm in san francisco
[01:07] <jrgifford> i'm in cleveland.
[01:08] <jrgifford> companies don't update their reverse dns that often
[01:08] <belkinsa> Ah, I see.
[01:08] <PCLine_> I found a program called observium and needed something to run it on.  Ubuntu was the first VirtualPC iso i found.
[01:09] <Unit193> Mine put me in Girard, I don't live there.
[01:09] <Unit193> And, coolio.
[01:09] <belkinsa> PCLine_, and do you need support for that program?
[01:10] <PCLine_> Nope got it up and running already.
[01:11] <PCLine_> I joined to see how others are using the software.
[01:11] <belkinsa> I think none of us uses it
[01:11] <belkinsa> But maybe in #ubuntu-offtopic, you can.
[01:11] <PCLine_> using Ubuntu
[01:13] <Unit193> Looks like an interesting tool, using Ubuntu Desktop or Server?
[01:15] <PCLine_> I am running it in VirtualPC on Win7 -    Server 32Bit.
[01:15] <Unit193> jrgifford: RR generally updates a bit faster, but yeah same point.  RR seemed to pick up my change faster than Maxmind. :P
[01:29] <Darkwing> Mmmmmm plasma 5 pretty
[01:30] <skellat> I haven't filed a backport request in a while but, um, yeah: https://bugs.launchpad.net/trusty-backports/+bug/1347980
[01:30] <jenni> [ Bug #1347980 “Please backport dianara 1.2.1-0.1 (universe) from ...” : Bugs : trusty-backports ] - https://j.mp/1pd5aCm
[01:30] <Unit193> Xfce 4.11, yummy. :D
[01:30] <Darkwing> http://imgur.com/a/BfxmE
[01:30] <jenni> [ Plasma 5 - Imgur ] - https://j.mp/1pd5dhu
[01:31] <Unit193> Backport requset?  Easier to repo it™! :D
[01:31] <belkinsa> xD
[01:31] <Darkwing> Unit193... ™ing repo it? Bwahahaha ;-)
[01:32] <Unit193> Darkwing: Oh, is that the classic menu or the kickoff?
[01:33] <Unit193> Darkwing: Who am I to speak?  I cheat with mini-dinstall. :D
[01:34] <Unit193> Works nice enough, and has signed releases, soooo...  Some day I'll use reprepro.
[01:34] <Darkwing> The menuish looking thing it networks. Kickoff is overhauled
[01:42]  * skellat goes back to reading that article from SSRN
[01:51] <Unit193> (Basically, I'm too annoyed at paperwork to get a proper QA/backport/sru/etc filed so I just do it otherwise. :/ )
[01:51] <Unit193> skellat: Have fun?
[01:52] <skellat> Unit193: Already backported it to my PPA, installed it, it works
[01:53] <skellat> Of course the package relates to using Identica so I take proprietary interest in those
[01:53] <skellat> As to the SSRN article...yeesh...40 page broadside
[01:54] <Unit193> Mhmm, and python-parsedatetime is broken in trusty. :P
[01:54] <skellat> That's an SRU then
[01:54] <skellat> If it is broke, it is an SRU
[01:54] <skellat> If it is a new feature, it is a backport
[01:54] <skellat> Dianara got new features, so we'll go down the backports road
[01:55] <skellat> And what makes python-parsedatetime borked in 14.04?
[01:55] <Unit193> Try using gcalcli, traceback.
[01:56] <skellat> Something I don't have installed
[01:57] <skellat> That has a lot of dependencies
[01:57] <Unit193> Shouldn't be a lot.
[02:01] <skellat> Last person messing with parsedatetime is noskcaj of all people
[02:01] <PCLine_> I see in the Topic ... No Re-Open Design ... What is it that you design?
[02:02] <Unit193> skellat: No, 1.2 is fine, it's 1.1.2 that's a dud.
[02:03] <skellat> PCLine_: That refers to re-opening design decisions for any of the flavours of Ubuntu.  There are tools such as ubuntu-defaults-image that allow you to roll your own bespoke version of Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Lubuntu, etc.
[02:04] <skellat> For a couple days I saw bugs filed against Xfce where people were filing patches to roll Xfce backwards to 4.10 as they thought 4.11 was totally broken...which is essentially an action to re-open a design discussion.
[02:04] <PCLine_> Oh.  thanks.
[02:05] <skellat> I notified Xubuntu tech lead & he flagged the bugs on Launchpad as "Opinion".  We'll let the slugfest happen upstream on Xfce's bug tracker.
[02:09] <skellat> Unit193: Do you want noskcaj to pursue an SRU for parsedatetime for you?  He needs to build up his portfolio some more.
[02:09] <Unit193> I'm not worried.
[02:10] <skellat> Okay
[02:21]  * skellat just finished reading http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2466707
[02:21] <jenni> [ Congressional Intransigence and Executive Power by Josh Blackman :: SSRN ] - https://j.mp/WEfiNQ
[02:36]  * skellat adds to the reading list for later: http://www.linuxvoice.com/raspberry-pi-model-b/
[02:36] <jenni> [ Raspberry Pi Model B+ | Linux Voice ] - https://j.mp/WEi19Z
[06:44] <PCLine_> I am glad I looked at Ubuntu and not the X or L or kubuntu version first.
[06:44] <Unit193> Heh, why is that?
[06:45] <PCLine_> I dont need a desktop.
[06:45] <Unit193> Mhmm, then minimal or server install makes much more sense.
[17:03] <thafreak> Just returned from my pilgrimage to microcenter
[17:03] <thafreak> I'm well beyond broke now
[17:04] <thafreak> But I have new shiney things...like one of the raspberry pi b+ models :)
[17:06] <thafreak> Got a beaglebone black too...
[17:19] <Unit193> Awesome, please do tell what you think of them, more so the second.  And yeah, guess you were expecting that though.
[17:39] <thafreak> will do...looking into getting REAL debian onto the beaglebone now...
[17:41] <thafreak> got a new VM server too though, so I may have to put the beaglebone on hold