=== SubOracle is now known as SubOracle[away] [05:59] More almal [06:06] goeie môre bduk1 [06:20] morning [06:33] morning Squirm, everyone [06:46] hi ThatGraemeGuy bduk1 mazal inetpro Squirm and others [06:46] * Kilos waves to cocooncrash too [06:51] morning Kilos [06:52] nice job on the pads [06:53] ta [06:53] bit of a shock if you step on it for the first time [06:53] hehe [06:55] Morning everyone [06:59] Kilos, ThatGraemeGuy , have you guys used Vanessa's HDX texture packs yet ? Looks really good [07:00] mazal, we use lots of stuff but ThatGraemeGuy is the man to ask, i saw vanessa somewhere [07:00] That makes the game look really good and load faster and , amazingly , gives me better fps on my Win 7 client [07:01] my single player seems to load slower than the online game [07:01] It's as if my Win 7 card needs better graphics before it can perform better [07:01] I got only 40fps , and when I use the 128px textures it jumps up to 90fps [07:02] does loading speed depend of graphics card performance too? [07:02] Not suppose to , the loading speed I really can't explain why the game loads faster with much higher graphics [07:02] Must be something to do with loading the textures from local drive at client side [07:03] Which is suppose to happen anyway as minetest "should" keep a cache at client side with the textures [07:03] I just can't figure out yet to make the better textures work on Ubuntu [07:05] you have the same graphics card on both? [07:05] Nope [07:05] is the better card on the win machine [07:05] My Win 7 box is my gaming rig with a strong GTX 760 4gig card [07:06] that must explain it then [07:06] My Ubuntu's is 1x laptop and 1x PC with small little entry level kaartjiekie [07:06] No I can't get the Ubuntu box to see the texture pack [07:06] mazal: i haven't bothered with texture packs [07:07] So I couldn't test it on the Ubuntu box yet [07:07] ThatGraemeGuy, it looks really good [07:07] Well all the default stuff anyway , most mods not supported [07:07] that's exactly why i haven't bothered [07:07] there are a ton of mods on our server [07:08] mazal, you should visit and see [07:08] also i like the low-tech look of the 16px textures [07:08] your house is still there [07:09] too much other stuff to do to even go mining [07:10] Sjoe I also have loads of mods [07:10] Kilos: i built a coal-powered HV setup down in the zinc mine so i can recharge my mining laser [07:11] much more convenient than going home every time [07:11] Everytime I think , Ok that is enough I am happy , then I read about something else I want lol [07:11] lol [07:11] especially if i get home and realise by HV batteries are flat and night just started [07:11] then have to wait 20 mins for sunlight [07:11] i looked for that tool in single, will look again [07:11] too much annoyance [07:11] i just have 1 more mod i want to test out [07:12] ya the sunlight thing can be frustrating [07:12] yay got the ubuntu to see the textures :) [07:13] And it runs at 60fps on this MS Word kaartjie :) [07:13] morning ThatGraemeGuy, Kilos, mazal [07:13] Maaz: coffee on [07:13] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [07:14] hey charl [07:14] Morning charl [07:15] hi charl [07:15] I haven't even tested at least 80% of all the stuff [07:15] Maaz, coffee please [07:15] Kilos: Okay [07:15] Time time time [07:16] i skip over the silly things like new plants and trees etc [07:17] i don't need a 15 different flavours of pie that take time and resources to make and at the end of the day eating a pie is the same as eating some apples, which takes nearly no effort [07:17] Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos! [07:17] have you build Uranium plant yet ? [07:17] lol [07:18] uranium plant? [07:18] you mean technic's HV nuclear reactor? [07:18] I'm sure I have wrong name , that nuclear plant thing [07:18] Yeah that's the one [07:19] i did, and afterwards realised it needs to be encased by various things in a 9x9x9 cube [07:19] or it explodes [07:19] oi [07:19] and i haven't bothered [07:19] haha [07:19] I just wish there was better documentation for these things [07:19] documentation for technic is crappy, i spend more time just reading the Lua code to figure out how a thing works [07:20] Most of it one has to try and figure out or search your alie of for info [07:20] ThatGraemeGuy, what is the diffs in mk1 2 and 3 lazers [07:20] i see he has a basic wiki linked to github, i might get around to pushing some better documentation in there sometime [07:21] Kilos: power and length of charge [07:21] ah ty [07:23] the one you use is really impressive, you can change the shape of the world with that [07:24] dont increase the wobble too much though [07:24] mk1 takes out 7 blocks at a time, requires 50000EU to charge full and uses 1000EU per shot [07:24] mk2 takes out 14 blocks at a time, requires 200000EU to charge full and uses 2000EU per shot [07:24] mk3 takes out 21 blocks at a time, requires 650000EU to charge full and uses 3000EU per shot [07:24] and they charge in the toolbox? [07:24] i have a mk3 [07:25] battery box [07:25] tool workshop is for repairing tools that wear, not electric tools [07:25] ah [07:25] pickaxe, shovel, axe, etc [07:25] mining drill, laser, prospector, chainsaw are all electric, you charge them in a battery box [07:25] ok ty [07:26] have you tried the prospector [07:26] but if you take that mk3 laser, a full charge needs 650000EU, so putting it in a LV battery box would take forever [07:26] LV battery box only stores 40000EU [07:26] that's why i built an HV box to use in the mine [07:26] oh ya you didnt answer yesterday [07:26] the [07:26] HV box stores 1 million EU [07:26] um [07:26] charges the laser in a minute or 2 [07:27] converter thing [07:27] supply convertor [07:28] im trying to make lv power available to mv tools etc but dont know how to connect both voltyages to the converter [07:28] hv sorry [07:28] for the mv toolbox [07:29] the supply goes on top of the convertor and it produces output on the bottom [07:29] so to convert lv to mv, lv on top, mv wires at the bottom [07:29] or vice versa [07:29] can also do mv>hv or vice versa [07:30] but not directly from hv to/from lv [07:32] hv to mv i want to try\ [07:32] hv on top mv on bottom [07:32] you can see how mine is wired if you get stucj [07:33] or stuck too [07:33] as in use only hv arrays and then tap off for the other 2 [07:33] ok ill try that ty [07:33] that's what i've done [07:33] i only have hv arrays generating power [07:34] ah [07:34] will goo film it by you [07:34] wbb [07:44] gtg make image [07:44] l8tr all [07:45] oh hi oom Kilos [07:45] and charl, ThatGraemeGuy [07:45] hi nuvolari [07:45] lo nuvolari gaanit? [07:46] my! you've been chirpy this morning [07:46] * nuvolari catches up [07:46] dit gaan goed dankie en self oom Kilos ? [07:46] haha jy mis die sports [07:46] goed dankie seun === SubOracle[away] is now known as SubOracle [07:54] hi Golynx [07:54] hi charl [07:54] ohi Golynx what broke [07:55] hi Kilos [07:55] haha nothing [07:55] have to save ram, got too mny programs open [07:56] many* [07:56] YAY! [07:56] I got the quality working better now [07:56] if you open http://mirror.liquidtelecom.com:8080 in vlc [07:56] heh and server is running a lot busier now as well [07:57] nice [07:57] except, ROTFL, I'm chewing 365mbit/second of bandwidth from my house -> the server doing that [07:57] cause of the raw ppm stream [07:58] Symmetria, did you apply with canonical for a deb-delta to be shown as well or does that come without hassles once your server is in [07:58] kilos, I'll have to apply to them and sort it out [07:58] please do it for us [07:59] sourceforge first mate [07:59] there are quite a lot of 3g peeps here [07:59] ya but dont forget us [08:08] sourceforge can suck a bag of ... [08:08] Louis CK fans will know [08:09] not a fan since they started bundling crapware with installers [08:11] o/ [08:13] i like sourceforge, only cause it gives the download size of the files [08:13] github has issues with that [08:23] ThatGraemeGuy: that is the individual project owners, not SourceForge themselves [08:24] ThatGraemeGuy: it's true for applications such as winscp that will install chrome for you if you don't specifically uncheck it [08:24] i know it's optional, but they are the enablers [08:25] yeah but you can't take them responsible for everything that people post [08:25] something something damn kids get off my lawn [08:25] lol [08:25] ya ya [08:25] it's like holding github responsible if i post some crap code on there [08:35] i keep having this problem with gource when i try to convert it into a mp4 http://paste.ubuntu.com/7846365/ [08:35] Symmetria: ^^ [08:46] Oi usb , so sloooooooooooooooow [08:46] haha go usb3 [08:46] It takes longer to backup my home folder than it takes to make a whole iso of my system [08:47] mazal, how do you see the fps on minetest [08:47] F5 [08:47] Then it's top left side [08:47] oh in there ty [08:48] ah 50 to 60 i see [08:48] That's good [08:48] on single player mode [08:48] Minetest is not very good fps wise. If you get that it's quite good [08:49] Kilos: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6950 [09:08] ah its running a virtual server [09:08] eh? [09:08] oh [09:09] "virtual" is really the wrong word there [09:09] i remember running win7 and other ubuntu releases in virtual box was also slow [09:09] what he means is that when you play online, the server does some of the work and your client only does graphics and a little bit of cpu work [09:09] but single player your pc does both jobs [09:09] no no no [09:09] 2) In singleplayer your computer is running a virtual server, and simulating you. So it is doing 2x the work in singleplayer. [09:10] ya [09:10] ignore the word "virtual" that was a poor word choice on his part [09:10] it isn't running a whole virtualised OS, just a minetest server process [09:10] oh ok but it made sense didnt it [09:10] not really [09:11] oi [09:11] https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1825 [09:11] that's actually what i meant to post, sorry [09:11] it was linked from the previous one i posted [09:11] doesnt matter though on singleplayer its not using data so good for learning [09:11] if you don't win then try #minetest [09:12] its not bad at all, just slower than when running on your server [09:12] not like when we were on flys server [09:13] just seem to be more night times on single\ [09:14] or longer ones haha [09:15] its your imagination [09:15] just like you imagine ores being more common at -4000 [09:15] most likely ya [09:15] oh ok [09:15] not most likely, it is [09:15] you cannot argue with the code [09:16] well more fun digging down deep [09:16] lol [09:16] surface mining ruins the enviroment [09:16] and [09:16] i want to see when i pop out the other side of the world [09:16] if i teleported you to a random spot and you didn't have the F5 info to tell you where you were you would have no way of knowing if you're at -5000 or -280 [09:17] heh [09:17] there is no other side [09:17] you get to a little over -31000 and that's the bottom [09:17] wow that will take forever [09:18] have you planted stuff underground yet [09:18] my wheat aint growing amongst the trees down there [09:18] in fact most ore definitions specify -31000 as the lowest point so even when you're digging around -31050, you won't find anything but stone [09:18] wheat needs lots of light to grow [09:18] trees will grow in the dark [09:19] but rats are better healing food then bread anyway [09:19] than bread [09:19] they aren't better than apples [09:20] you have to cook rats, you only have to pick apples and eat them [09:20] oh i havent checked yet if there are apples [09:20] ya but 3 rat chops heal you lots [09:20] plant 20 trees around your house [09:20] give them a few minutes to all grow [09:20] chainsaw all of them [09:21] boom, tons of apples! [09:21] na i have too many trees so close already [09:21] repeat as needed [09:21] apples are evil fruit [09:21] ask adam [09:21] they the cause of all our hard times [09:25] im learning the power stuffs [09:25] if you convert down from hv to mv you need another switching thing before mv works [09:26] yes, every network needs a switching station [09:26] and the output side of a supply convertor is the start of a separate network [09:26] also found lazer tools are not good to do smallish jobs [09:27] mining laser? [09:27] so much to learn [09:27] ThatGraemeGuy: ah, you're talking about this? http://www.davescomputertips.com/sourceforges-new-installer-bundles-adware/ [09:27] yeah eats big holes [09:27] sorry i wasn't even aware they were doing this now [09:27] sheesh i get what you're saying now, that's just plain evil [09:27] yeah, its supposed to do that Kilos, it's for mining [09:27] charl: yeah that started about a year ago === SubOracle is now known as SubOracle[away] [09:27] lol but who knows where lava is lurking when you mining stone [09:28] yes [09:28] i haven't had that yet [09:28] but i suspect i will at some point [09:28] and i cant run fast like you [09:28] i carry a water can, i can just put down a block of water and stand in it [09:28] no need to run [09:28] takes a while to first see where to run to [09:29] oh it also takes a while to get the right thing in inventory to build under me [09:29] haha [09:30] thats why i usually carry water in position 1 on my hotbar [09:30] press 1, place water [09:31] problem solved [09:31] haha [09:33] have you seen the mining project i've got going in the new mine? [09:33] nope ill go look tonight [09:33] its pretty massive, i think eventually i should build an underground village there [09:33] you need to nap from 9 till 11 so you can be there [09:33] hehe [09:33] ha [09:34] you gonna settle dwarves there [09:34] its not so much the time as the temperature that eventually convinces me to go to bed :) [09:34] hot water bottles on knees and undr feet help [09:35] thats the only way i can sit up [09:35] we still got ice in pipes in the morning [09:36] sjoe [09:36] no thanks [09:36] those few nights in tulbagh were cold enough for me [09:37] ya its eina [09:37] i need to stay closer to the coast where it isn't so bitter [09:37] i think my 18 years in toti messed my system up [09:37] my brother-in-law is from KZN, he's not having a good time with our winter [09:37] struggle in the tvl [09:38] kzn is a good place but they pay less there [09:38] most good paying jobs are gauteng and ct [09:40] i went from managing a dairy farm in natal for R600 pm to 2500 on a beef and veggie farm in rustenburg [09:41] in the 80s? :-o [09:42] ya late 80s i think it was [09:42] farmers dont like to pay [09:47] 2500 was decent in the late 80s though [09:47] hell even 600 wasn't terrible [09:47] my first job in 1996 i started at R1,450 [09:49] My first , in 1992 was R1100 [09:52] any html peeps here that can make some suggetions how to embed a live video stream [09:56] hahaha my first was about R45 pm i think === SubOracle[away] is now known as SubOracle [10:14] toolmaker appy op die spoorweg === SubOracle is now known as SubOracle[away] === SubOracle[away] is now known as SubOracle [10:45] can someone test if this works [10:45] http://197.155.77.253 [10:45] in a webbrowser [10:46] i see an arrow [10:47] it says click to activate and use this control [10:47] is it gonna eat data? [10:47] heh while its open possibly [10:47] ;p [10:48] ya it works with opera browser [10:48] schweet [12:03] Hello [12:03] hi rio_zenta [12:03] How are you today? Kilos [12:03] good ty and you ? [12:08] I'm good Kilos [12:27] Are things always quiet in here? Kilos [12:31] o/ [12:35] how to be installing the linux? Much helps please? [12:35] hi nlsthzn [12:35] you taught me [12:35] nlsthzn :-/ [12:36] * nlsthzn became bored in the room :p [12:36] hi uncle Kilos , rio_zenta ... how is everybody doing? [12:37] good and you? nls [12:37] nlsthzn, [12:37] we maintain ty nlsthzn and there? [12:37] sniffly like uncle Kilos afaik [12:37] haha [12:38] you back in ahab land yet? [12:38] flying tomorrow night... [12:38] aha fly safe [12:38] always do :) [12:39] back to dates and camel milk hehe [12:39] almost seeing as it is still Ramadan until the 28th ... [12:40] hope you all stay well and catch you another day... bye [12:40] cheers nlsthzn dont be a stranger [12:45] * nuvolari tiptoes around [12:45] lo nuvolari [12:57] is nlsthzn living in dubai? [12:58] yip [12:58] just been on holiday here to family [13:08] aah cool :) === rio_zenta is now known as rio_zenta_afk === rio_zenta_afk is now known as rio_zenta [13:49] hi psyatw [13:49] hi Kilos [14:06] le sigh [14:07] wassup Trixar_za [14:07] Upgraded to Peppermint 5, but it comes with some bugs [14:08] (It's based on 14.04) [14:17] ah [14:17] well you know how to fix bugs [14:18] i like endearmints better than peppermint [14:19] can travel for 7 hours without drinking anything as long as you have them to suck [14:21] sup [14:35] Man I hate Pulse Audio... === SubOracle is now known as SubOracle[away] [14:50] +1 [14:50] but when it works it's OK [14:57] That should fix TTY resolution, boot resolution, sound. What else do I have left to do? [14:57] I'm forgetting something, but I can't remember what [14:57] :P [15:00] Well, terminal resolution stubbornly resets itself. Thanks Ubuntu [15:00] Oh right [15:00] Num Lock [15:02] Trixar_za: what about numlock? [15:03] I like it to be on by default [15:03] :P [15:03] * nuvolari always makes sure that numlock is set to be the compose key [15:03] so I can do °, ô, ø, æ [15:03] You are a very strange person. I just use the extra Windows key [15:04] I use the windows key for my dmenu [15:04] wel, combo [15:04] Sound seems to be defaulting to what I want. Just the stubborn TTY resolution, but that's minor [15:04] Something tells me it has to do with damn Xorg [15:06] Trixar_za: when are you going to try out arch? or did you already? [15:06] I did, but failed since I couldn't get the 3G connection to work for installs [15:07] So much like I did with gentoo, I said screw this and went with something else :P [15:07] bah. [15:07] what kind of 3g? [15:07] I strugled myself a bit, but managed to get it working later on [15:08] (usb 3g connected, but didn't set the gateway) === SubOracle[away] is now known as SubOracle === SubOracle is now known as SubOracle[away] [16:01] How did Xethron conceal his/her ip address? [16:01] on irc? [16:02] you ask freenode to do it [16:02] yeah, when first entering, the axxess ip address is visible, now it is unaffiliated [16:02] mast i think its called no cloak [16:02] masked or cloaked [16:03] Where can I find these settings? [16:03] its not settings you go to #freenode and ask one of the ops to do it for you === SubOracle[away] is now known as SubOracle [16:07] So I picked up a laptop yesterday. core i7 8gb ram [16:08] hi :p [16:10] cool [16:10] hi smile [16:10] rio_zenta, price? [16:10] R4500 [16:10] rio_zenta: good price ;) [16:11] where bid or buy? [16:11] smile: I am doing diagnostics to see that nothing is broken. [16:11] Kilos: No, local guy. He keeps them cheap. [16:11] thats very cheap for an i7 [16:12] and the ram is over R800 alone [16:12] rio_zenta: I keep my thumbs up for you. :) [16:12] Kilos: yeah, it's a bit too cheap, which is why I have my doubts. [16:13]