[05:59] <bduk1> More almal
[06:06] <nuvolari> goeie môre bduk1 
[06:20] <Squirm> morning
[06:33] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning Squirm, everyone
[06:46] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy bduk1 mazal inetpro Squirm and others
[06:46]  * Kilos waves to cocooncrash too
[06:51] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning Kilos
[06:52] <Kilos> nice job on the pads
[06:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> ta
[06:53] <Kilos> bit of a shock if you step on it for the first time
[06:53] <Kilos> hehe
[06:55] <mazal> Morning everyone
[06:59] <mazal> Kilos, ThatGraemeGuy , have you guys used Vanessa's HDX texture packs yet ? Looks really good
[07:00] <Kilos> mazal, we use lots of stuff but ThatGraemeGuy is the man to ask, i saw vanessa somewhere
[07:00] <mazal> That makes the game look really good and load faster and , amazingly , gives me better fps on my Win 7 client
[07:01] <Kilos> my single player seems to load slower than the online game
[07:01] <mazal> It's as if my Win 7 card needs better graphics before it can perform better
[07:01] <mazal> I got only 40fps , and when I use the 128px textures it jumps up to 90fps
[07:02] <Kilos> does loading speed depend of graphics card performance too?
[07:02] <mazal> Not suppose to , the loading speed I really can't explain why the game loads faster with much higher graphics
[07:02] <mazal> Must be something to do with loading the textures from local drive at client side
[07:03] <mazal> Which is suppose to happen anyway as minetest "should" keep a cache at client side with the textures
[07:03] <mazal> I just can't figure out yet to make the better textures work on Ubuntu
[07:05] <Kilos> you have the same graphics card on both?
[07:05] <mazal> Nope
[07:05] <Kilos> is the better card on the win machine
[07:05] <mazal> My Win 7 box is my gaming rig with a strong GTX 760 4gig card
[07:06] <Kilos> that must explain it then
[07:06] <mazal> My Ubuntu's is 1x laptop and 1x PC with small little entry level kaartjiekie
[07:06] <mazal> No I can't get the Ubuntu box to see the texture pack
[07:06] <ThatGraemeGuy> mazal: i haven't bothered with texture packs
[07:07] <mazal> So I couldn't test it on the Ubuntu box yet
[07:07] <mazal> ThatGraemeGuy, it looks really good
[07:07] <mazal> Well all the default stuff anyway , most mods not supported
[07:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> that's exactly why i haven't bothered
[07:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> there are a ton of mods on our server
[07:08] <Kilos> mazal, you should visit and see
[07:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> also i like the low-tech look of the 16px textures
[07:08] <Kilos> your house is still there
[07:09] <Kilos> too much other stuff to do to even go mining
[07:10] <mazal> Sjoe I also have loads of mods
[07:10] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: i built a coal-powered HV setup down in the zinc mine so i can recharge my mining laser
[07:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> much more convenient than going home every time
[07:11] <mazal> Everytime I think , Ok that is enough I am happy , then I read about something else I want lol
[07:11] <Kilos> lol
[07:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> especially if i get home and realise by HV batteries are flat and night just started
[07:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> then have to wait 20 mins for sunlight
[07:11] <Kilos> i looked for that tool in single, will look again
[07:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> too much annoyance
[07:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> i just have 1 more mod i want to test out
[07:12] <Kilos> ya the sunlight thing can be frustrating
[07:12] <mazal> yay got the ubuntu to see the textures :)
[07:13] <mazal> And it runs at 60fps on this MS Word kaartjie :)
[07:13] <charl> morning ThatGraemeGuy, Kilos, mazal 
[07:13] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[07:13]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[07:14] <ThatGraemeGuy> hey charl
[07:14] <mazal> Morning charl 
[07:15] <Kilos> hi charl 
[07:15] <mazal> I haven't even tested at least 80% of all the stuff 
[07:15] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[07:15] <Maaz> Kilos: Okay
[07:15] <mazal> Time time time
[07:16] <ThatGraemeGuy> i skip over the silly things like new plants and trees etc
[07:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> i don't need a 15 different flavours of pie that take time and resources to make and at the end of the day eating a pie is the same as eating some apples, which takes nearly no effort
[07:17] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos!
[07:17] <mazal> have you build Uranium plant yet ?
[07:17] <Kilos> lol
[07:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> uranium plant?
[07:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> you mean technic's HV nuclear reactor?
[07:18] <mazal> I'm sure I have wrong name , that nuclear plant thing
[07:18] <mazal> Yeah that's the one
[07:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> i did, and afterwards realised it needs to be encased by various things in a 9x9x9 cube
[07:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> or it explodes
[07:19] <mazal> oi
[07:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> and i haven't bothered
[07:19] <Kilos> haha
[07:19] <mazal> I just wish there was better documentation for these things
[07:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> documentation for technic is crappy, i spend more time just reading the Lua code to figure out how a thing works
[07:20] <mazal> Most of it one has to try and figure out or search your alie of for info
[07:20] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy, what is the diffs in mk1 2 and 3 lazers
[07:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> i see he has a basic wiki linked to github, i might get around to pushing some better documentation in there sometime
[07:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: power and length of charge
[07:21] <Kilos> ah ty
[07:23] <Kilos> the one you use is really impressive, you can change the shape of the world with that
[07:24] <Kilos> dont increase the wobble too much though
[07:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> mk1 takes out 7 blocks at a time, requires 50000EU to charge full and uses 1000EU per shot
[07:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> mk2 takes out 14 blocks at a time, requires 200000EU to charge full and uses 2000EU per shot
[07:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> mk3 takes out 21 blocks at a time, requires 650000EU to charge full and uses 3000EU per shot
[07:24] <Kilos> and they charge in the toolbox?
[07:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> i have a mk3
[07:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> battery box
[07:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> tool workshop is for repairing tools that wear, not electric tools
[07:25] <Kilos> ah
[07:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> pickaxe, shovel, axe, etc
[07:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> mining drill, laser, prospector, chainsaw are all electric, you charge them in a battery box
[07:25] <Kilos> ok ty
[07:26] <Kilos> have you tried the prospector
[07:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> but if you take that mk3 laser, a full charge needs 650000EU, so putting it in a LV battery box would take forever
[07:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> LV battery box only stores 40000EU
[07:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> that's why i built an HV box to use in the mine
[07:26] <Kilos> oh ya you didnt answer yesterday
[07:26] <Kilos> the
[07:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> HV box stores 1 million EU
[07:26] <Kilos> um
[07:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> charges the laser in a minute or 2
[07:27] <Kilos> converter thing
[07:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> supply convertor
[07:28] <Kilos> im trying to make lv power available to mv tools etc but dont know how to connect both voltyages to the converter
[07:28] <Kilos> hv sorry
[07:28] <Kilos> for the mv toolbox
[07:29] <ThatGraemeGuy> the supply goes on top of the convertor and it produces output on the bottom
[07:29] <ThatGraemeGuy> so to convert lv to mv, lv on top, mv wires at the bottom
[07:29] <ThatGraemeGuy> or vice versa
[07:29] <ThatGraemeGuy> can also do mv>hv or vice versa
[07:30] <ThatGraemeGuy> but not directly from hv to/from lv
[07:32] <Kilos> hv to mv i want to try\
[07:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> hv on top mv on bottom
[07:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> you can see how mine is wired if you get stucj
[07:33] <ThatGraemeGuy> or stuck too
[07:33] <Kilos> as in use only hv arrays and then tap off for the other 2
[07:33] <Kilos> ok ill try that ty
[07:33] <ThatGraemeGuy> that's what i've done
[07:33] <ThatGraemeGuy> i only have hv arrays generating power
[07:34] <Kilos> ah
[07:34] <Kilos> will goo film it by you
[07:34] <Kilos> wbb
[07:44] <mazal> gtg make image
[07:44] <mazal> l8tr all
[07:45] <nuvolari> oh hi oom Kilos 
[07:45] <nuvolari> and charl, ThatGraemeGuy 
[07:45] <charl> hi nuvolari 
[07:45] <Kilos> lo nuvolari gaanit?
[07:46] <nuvolari> my! you've been chirpy this morning
[07:46]  * nuvolari catches up
[07:46] <nuvolari> dit gaan goed dankie en self oom Kilos ?
[07:46] <Kilos> haha jy mis die sports
[07:46] <Kilos> goed dankie seun
[07:54] <charl> hi Golynx 
[07:54] <Golynx> hi charl
[07:54] <Kilos> ohi Golynx what broke
[07:55] <Golynx> hi Kilos
[07:55] <Golynx> haha nothing
[07:55] <Golynx> have to save ram, got too mny programs open
[07:56] <Golynx> many*
[07:56] <Symmetria> YAY!
[07:56] <Symmetria> I got the quality working better now
[07:56] <Symmetria> if you open http://mirror.liquidtelecom.com:8080 in vlc 
[07:56] <Symmetria> heh and server is running a lot busier now as well
[07:57] <charl> nice
[07:57] <Symmetria> except, ROTFL, I'm chewing 365mbit/second of bandwidth from my house -> the server doing that
[07:57] <Symmetria> cause of the raw ppm stream
[07:58] <Kilos> Symmetria, did you apply with canonical for a deb-delta to be shown as well or does that come without hassles once your server is in
[07:58] <Symmetria> kilos, I'll have to apply to them and sort it out
[07:58] <Kilos> please do it for us
[07:59] <Symmetria> sourceforge first mate
[07:59] <Kilos> there are quite a lot of 3g peeps here
[07:59] <Kilos> ya but dont forget us
[08:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> sourceforge can suck a bag of ...
[08:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> Louis CK fans will know
[08:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> not a fan since they started bundling crapware with installers
[08:11] <Vince-0> o/
[08:13] <Golynx> i like sourceforge, only cause it gives the download size of the files
[08:13] <Golynx> github has issues with that
[08:23] <charl> ThatGraemeGuy: that is the individual project owners, not SourceForge themselves
[08:24] <charl> ThatGraemeGuy: it's true for applications such as winscp that will install chrome for you if you don't specifically uncheck it
[08:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> i know it's optional, but they are the enablers
[08:25] <charl> yeah but you can't take them responsible for everything that people post
[08:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> something something damn kids get off my lawn
[08:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> lol
[08:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> ya ya
[08:25] <charl> it's like holding github responsible if i post some crap code on there
[08:35] <charl> i keep having this problem with gource when i try to convert it into a mp4 http://paste.ubuntu.com/7846365/
[08:35] <charl> Symmetria: ^^
[08:46] <mazal> Oi usb , so sloooooooooooooooow
[08:46] <Kilos> haha go usb3
[08:46] <mazal> It takes longer to backup my home folder than it takes to make a whole iso of my system
[08:47] <Kilos> mazal, how do you see the fps on minetest
[08:47] <mazal> F5
[08:47] <mazal> Then it's top left side
[08:47] <Kilos> oh in there ty
[08:48] <Kilos> ah 50 to 60 i see
[08:48] <mazal> That's good
[08:48] <Kilos> on single player mode
[08:48] <mazal> Minetest is not very good fps wise. If you get that it's quite good
[08:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6950
[09:08] <Kilos> ah its running a virtual server
[09:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> eh?
[09:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh
[09:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> "virtual" is really the wrong word there
[09:09] <Kilos> i remember running win7 and other ubuntu releases in virtual box was also slow
[09:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> what he means is that when you play online, the server does some of the work and your client only does graphics and a little bit of cpu work
[09:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> but single player your pc does both jobs
[09:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> no no no
[09:09] <Kilos> 2) In singleplayer your computer is running a virtual server, and simulating you. So it is doing 2x the work in singleplayer.
[09:10] <Kilos> ya
[09:10] <ThatGraemeGuy> ignore the word "virtual" that was a poor word choice on his part
[09:10] <ThatGraemeGuy> it isn't running a whole virtualised OS, just a minetest server process
[09:10] <Kilos> oh ok but it made sense didnt it
[09:10] <ThatGraemeGuy> not really
[09:11] <Kilos> oi
[09:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1825
[09:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> that's actually what i meant to post, sorry
[09:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> it was linked from the previous one i posted
[09:11] <Kilos> doesnt matter though on singleplayer its not using data so good for learning
[09:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> if you don't win then try #minetest
[09:12] <Kilos> its not bad at all, just slower than when running on your server
[09:12] <Kilos> not like when we were on flys server
[09:13] <Kilos> just seem to be more night times on single\
[09:14] <Kilos> or longer ones haha
[09:15] <ThatGraemeGuy> its your imagination
[09:15] <ThatGraemeGuy> just like you imagine ores being more common at -4000
[09:15] <Kilos> most likely ya
[09:15] <Kilos> oh ok
[09:15] <ThatGraemeGuy> not most likely, it is
[09:15] <ThatGraemeGuy> you cannot argue with the code
[09:16] <Kilos> well more fun digging down deep
[09:16] <ThatGraemeGuy> lol
[09:16] <Kilos> surface mining ruins the enviroment
[09:16] <Kilos> and
[09:16] <Kilos> i want to see when i pop out the other side of the world
[09:16] <ThatGraemeGuy> if i teleported you to a random spot and you didn't have the F5 info to tell you where you were you would have no way of knowing if you're at -5000 or -280
[09:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> heh
[09:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> there is no other side
[09:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> you get to a little over -31000 and that's the bottom
[09:17] <Kilos> wow that will take forever
[09:18] <Kilos> have you planted stuff underground yet
[09:18] <Kilos> my wheat aint growing amongst the trees down there
[09:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> in fact most ore definitions specify -31000 as the lowest point so even when you're digging around -31050, you won't find anything but stone
[09:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> wheat needs lots of light to grow
[09:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> trees will grow in the dark
[09:19] <Kilos> but rats are better healing food then bread anyway
[09:19] <Kilos> than bread
[09:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> they aren't better than apples
[09:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> you have to cook rats, you only have to pick apples and eat them
[09:20] <Kilos> oh i havent checked yet if there are apples
[09:20] <Kilos> ya but 3 rat chops heal you lots
[09:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> plant 20 trees around your house
[09:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> give them a few minutes to all grow
[09:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> chainsaw all of them
[09:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> boom, tons of apples!
[09:21] <Kilos> na i have too many trees so close already
[09:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> repeat as needed
[09:21] <Kilos> apples are evil fruit
[09:21] <Kilos> ask adam
[09:21] <Kilos> they the cause of all our hard times
[09:25] <Kilos> im learning the power stuffs
[09:25] <Kilos> if you convert down from hv to mv you need another switching thing before mv works
[09:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> yes, every network needs a switching station
[09:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> and the output side of a supply convertor is the start of a separate network
[09:26] <Kilos> also found lazer tools are not good to do smallish jobs
[09:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> mining laser?
[09:27] <Kilos> so much to learn
[09:27] <charl> ThatGraemeGuy: ah, you're talking about this? http://www.davescomputertips.com/sourceforges-new-installer-bundles-adware/
[09:27] <Kilos> yeah eats big holes
[09:27] <charl> sorry i wasn't even aware they were doing this now
[09:27] <charl> sheesh i get what you're saying now, that's just plain evil
[09:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah, its supposed to do that Kilos, it's for mining
[09:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> charl: yeah that started about a year ago
[09:27] <Kilos> lol but who knows where lava is lurking when you mining stone
[09:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> yes
[09:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> i haven't had that yet
[09:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> but i suspect i will at some point
[09:28] <Kilos> and i cant run fast like you
[09:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> i carry a water can, i can just put down a block of water and stand in it
[09:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> no need to run
[09:28] <Kilos> takes a while to first see where to run to
[09:29] <Kilos> oh it also takes a while to get the right thing in inventory to build under me
[09:29] <Kilos> haha
[09:30] <ThatGraemeGuy> thats why i usually carry water in position 1 on my hotbar
[09:30] <ThatGraemeGuy> press 1, place water
[09:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> problem solved
[09:31] <Kilos> haha
[09:33] <ThatGraemeGuy> have you seen the mining project i've got going in the new mine?
[09:33] <Kilos> nope ill go look tonight
[09:33] <ThatGraemeGuy> its pretty massive, i think eventually i should build an underground village there
[09:33] <Kilos> you need to nap from 9 till 11 so you can be there
[09:33] <Kilos> hehe
[09:33] <ThatGraemeGuy> ha
[09:34] <Kilos> you gonna settle dwarves there
[09:34] <ThatGraemeGuy> its not so much the time as the temperature that eventually convinces me to go to bed :)
[09:34] <Kilos> hot water bottles on knees and undr feet help
[09:35] <Kilos> thats the only way i can sit up
[09:35] <Kilos> we still got ice in pipes in the morning
[09:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> sjoe
[09:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> no thanks
[09:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> those few nights in tulbagh were cold enough for me
[09:37] <Kilos> ya its eina
[09:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> i need to stay closer to the coast where it isn't so bitter
[09:37] <Kilos> i think my 18 years in toti messed my system up
[09:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> my brother-in-law is from KZN, he's not having a good time with our winter
[09:37] <Kilos> struggle in the tvl
[09:38] <Kilos> kzn is a good place but they pay less there
[09:38] <Kilos> most good paying jobs are gauteng and ct
[09:40] <Kilos> i went from managing a dairy farm in natal for R600 pm to 2500 on a beef and veggie farm in rustenburg
[09:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> in the 80s? :-o
[09:42] <Kilos> ya late 80s i think it was
[09:42] <Kilos> farmers dont like to pay
[09:47] <ThatGraemeGuy> 2500 was decent in the late 80s though
[09:47] <ThatGraemeGuy> hell even 600 wasn't terrible
[09:47] <ThatGraemeGuy> my first job in 1996 i started at R1,450
[09:49] <mazal> My first , in 1992 was R1100
[09:52] <Symmetria> any html peeps here that can make some suggetions how to embed a live video stream 
[09:56] <Kilos> hahaha my first was about R45 pm i think
[10:14] <Kilos> toolmaker appy op die spoorweg
[10:45] <Symmetria> can someone test if this works
[10:45] <Symmetria> http://197.155.77.253
[10:45] <Symmetria> in a webbrowser
[10:46] <Kilos> i see an arrow
[10:47] <Kilos> it says click to activate and use this control
[10:47] <Kilos> is it gonna eat data?
[10:47] <Symmetria> heh while its open possibly
[10:47] <Symmetria> ;p
[10:48] <Kilos> ya it works with opera browser
[10:48] <Symmetria> schweet
[12:03] <rio_zenta> Hello
[12:03] <Kilos> hi rio_zenta 
[12:03] <rio_zenta> How are you today? Kilos 
[12:03] <Kilos> good ty and you ?
[12:08] <rio_zenta> I'm good Kilos 
[12:27] <rio_zenta> Are things always quiet in here? Kilos 
[12:31] <nlsthzn> o/
[12:35] <nlsthzn> how to be installing the linux? Much helps please?
[12:35] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[12:35] <Kilos> you taught me
[12:35] <rio_zenta> nlsthzn :-/
[12:36]  * nlsthzn became bored in the room :p
[12:36] <nlsthzn> hi uncle Kilos , rio_zenta ... how is everybody doing?
[12:37] <rio_zenta> good and you? nls
[12:37] <rio_zenta> nlsthzn, 
[12:37] <Kilos> we maintain ty nlsthzn and there?
[12:37] <nlsthzn> sniffly like uncle Kilos afaik
[12:37] <Kilos> haha
[12:38] <Kilos> you back in ahab land yet?
[12:38] <nlsthzn> flying tomorrow night...
[12:38] <Kilos> aha fly safe
[12:38] <nlsthzn> always do :)
[12:39] <Kilos> back to dates and camel milk hehe
[12:39] <nlsthzn> almost seeing as it is still Ramadan until the 28th ...
[12:40] <nlsthzn> hope you all stay well and catch you another day... bye
[12:40] <Kilos> cheers nlsthzn dont be a stranger
[12:45]  * nuvolari tiptoes around
[12:45] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[12:57] <rio_zenta> is nlsthzn living in dubai?
[12:58] <Kilos> yip
[12:58] <Kilos> just been on holiday here to family
[13:08] <rio_zenta> aah cool :)
[13:49] <Kilos> hi psyatw 
[13:49] <psyatw> hi Kilos 
[14:06] <Trixar_za> le sigh
[14:07] <Kilos> wassup Trixar_za 
[14:07] <Trixar_za> Upgraded to Peppermint 5, but it comes with some bugs
[14:08] <Trixar_za> (It's based on 14.04)
[14:17] <Kilos> ah
[14:17] <Kilos> well you know how to fix bugs
[14:18] <Kilos> i like endearmints better than peppermint
[14:19] <Kilos> can travel for 7 hours without drinking anything as long as you have them to suck
[14:21] <Symmetria> sup
[14:35] <Trixar_za> Man I hate Pulse Audio...
[14:50] <nuvolari> +1
[14:50] <nuvolari> but when it works it's OK
[14:57] <Trixar_za> That should fix TTY resolution, boot resolution, sound. What else do I have left to do?
[14:57] <Trixar_za> I'm forgetting something, but I can't remember what
[14:57] <Trixar_za> :P
[15:00] <Trixar_za> Well, terminal resolution stubbornly resets itself. Thanks Ubuntu
[15:00] <Trixar_za> Oh right
[15:00] <Trixar_za> Num Lock
[15:02] <nuvolari> Trixar_za: what about numlock?
[15:03] <Trixar_za> I like it to be on by default
[15:03] <Trixar_za> :P
[15:03]  * nuvolari always makes sure that numlock is set to be the compose key
[15:03] <nuvolari> so I can do °, ô, ø, æ
[15:03] <Trixar_za> You are a very strange person. I just use the extra Windows key
[15:04] <nuvolari> I use the windows key for my dmenu
[15:04] <nuvolari> wel, combo
[15:04] <Trixar_za> Sound seems to be defaulting to what I want. Just the stubborn TTY resolution, but that's minor
[15:04] <Trixar_za> Something tells me it has to do with damn Xorg
[15:06] <nuvolari> Trixar_za: when are you going to try out arch? or did you already?
[15:06] <Trixar_za> I did, but failed since I couldn't get the 3G connection to work for installs
[15:07] <Trixar_za> So much like I did with gentoo, I said screw this and went with something else :P
[15:07] <nuvolari> bah. 
[15:07] <nuvolari> what kind of 3g?
[15:07] <nuvolari> I strugled myself a bit, but managed to get it working later on
[15:08] <nuvolari> (usb 3g connected, but didn't set the gateway)
[16:01] <rio_zenta> How did Xethron conceal his/her ip address?
[16:01] <Kilos> on irc?
[16:02] <Kilos> you ask freenode to do it
[16:02] <rio_zenta> yeah, when first entering, the axxess ip address is visible, now it is unaffiliated
[16:02] <Kilos>  mast i think its called no cloak
[16:02] <Kilos> masked or cloaked
[16:03] <rio_zenta> Where can I find these settings?
[16:03] <Kilos> its not settings you go to #freenode and ask one of the ops to do it for you
[16:07] <rio_zenta> So I picked up a laptop yesterday. core i7 8gb ram 
[16:08] <smile> hi :p
[16:10] <Kilos> cool
[16:10] <Kilos> hi smile 
[16:10] <Kilos> rio_zenta, price?
[16:10] <rio_zenta> R4500
[16:10] <smile> rio_zenta: good price ;)
[16:11] <Kilos> where bid or buy?
[16:11] <rio_zenta> smile: I am doing diagnostics to see that nothing is broken. 
[16:11] <rio_zenta> Kilos: No, local guy. He keeps them cheap.
[16:11] <Kilos> thats very cheap for an i7
[16:12] <Kilos> and the ram is over R800 alone
[16:12] <smile> rio_zenta: I keep my thumbs up for you. :)
[16:12] <rio_zenta> Kilos: yeah, it's a bit too cheap, which is why I have my doubts.
[16:13] <Kilos> just test it but you could be lucky
[16:13] <Kilos> with windows on?
[16:14] <Kilos> then its broken before you start looking
[16:14] <rio_zenta> yeah, win7 
[16:14] <Kilos> best cure insert ubuntu dvd and choose install
[16:14] <Kilos> actually ubuntu runs well alongside
[16:15] <rio_zenta> I dont mind keeping win on it in a small partition. Although I'm tempted to dump the HDD and get an SSD inside it.
[16:15] <Kilos> i use win7 to use up 30g faulty drive space
[16:15] <Kilos> it should be fast enough with that cpu and ram
[16:15] <rio_zenta> yeah win7 is massive. It's the only thing installed and it's sitting on 30GB 
[16:16] <Kilos> must have a lot of other stuff on as well
[16:16] <rio_zenta> true, but with the SSD I'll future-proof this thing for 5 years.
[16:16] <rio_zenta> Avast is on (anti-virus :-/)
[16:16] <Kilos> avast is good
[16:16] <Kilos> and zone alarm
[16:17] <rio_zenta> and it looks brand new. I just had to buy it before someone else did, but I'm going to test it out thoroughly.
[16:18] <rio_zenta> smile: cool website you have there.
[16:18] <Symmetria> woooooot
[16:18] <Symmetria> http://logs.mirror.liquidtelecom.com <[16:18] <Kilos> haha you want to stress it
[16:19] <smile> rio_zenta: thanks ;)
[16:19] <Symmetria> kilos lol, it works awesomely now
[16:19] <Kilos> well done Symmetria 
[16:19] <smile> Kilos: avast on Ubuntu? ;) lol
[16:19] <Kilos> i dont wanna see logs man i want to see it in repos
[16:20] <Kilos> he has 7 smile
[16:20] <Symmetria> sorry was the wrong index file
[16:20] <Symmetria> HTATS the html5 if you refresh
[16:21] <smile> Kilos: yeah, but you said Avast is good -> you can't have the good Avast on the good Ubuntu ;)
[16:21] <Kilos> haha i run win7 on first 30g
[16:22] <Kilos> ubuntu keeps crashing there
[16:22] <Kilos> linux is very sensitive to scrappy drives
[16:23] <smile> I see :P
[16:24] <Trixar_za> *le coff* http://www.ubuntucafe.in/2013/11/install-avast-antivirus-on-ubuntu.html *le coff*
[16:24] <Kilos> hoping to get my first new drive end of this month
[16:28] <Kilos> just restarting hexchat quick
[16:45] <rio_zenta> That liquidtelecom link doesn't work.
[16:48] <Kilos> Symmetria, fix it
[16:49] <Kilos> it works here rio_zenta 
[16:50] <rio_zenta> Am I looking at a video?
[16:50] <Kilos> shows a log page
[16:50] <Kilos> ah
[16:50] <rio_zenta> oh, I see nothing.
[16:50] <rio_zenta> will speak later.
[16:50] <Kilos> k
[16:50] <Gremble> o/
[16:50] <Kilos> hi Gremble 
[16:51] <Gremble> How are you today Kilos ?
[16:51] <Kilos> good ty and you Gremble ?
[16:51] <Gremble> Pretty chilled
[16:52] <Gremble> Long day. Just got home
[16:52] <Kilos> oh that. ya here too
[16:52] <Kilos> hot bath helps
[16:55] <Symmetria> kilos heh
[16:55] <Symmetria> I just fixed it now 
[16:55] <Symmetria> the problem is I've cranked the quality of the stream up
[16:56] <Symmetria> so you probably dont wanna open that on a 3G modem
[16:56] <Symmetria> ;p
[16:56] <Kilos> ah ty
[18:03] <Kilos> hi superfly long day away from pc hey
[18:04] <superfly> always
[18:04] <Symmetria> hey superfly
[18:04] <superfly> hi Symmetria
[18:04] <Symmetria> superfly I made my fancy mirror server log thingy work on a normal webpage :)
[18:04] <Symmetria> http://logs.mirror.liquidtelecom.com
[18:04] <Symmetria> :)
[18:04]  * superfly clicks
[18:04] <Symmetria> it looks so awesome
[18:05] <Symmetria> hehe thats a live view of whats going on on that mirror server
[18:06] <Symmetria> I would like to make it show a bouncing graph of bandwidth utilisation on the NIC at the bottom of the video but lol thats a lot of code I'd have to write in there to do that
[18:06] <superfly> amusing... is it open source?
[18:06] <Symmetria> superfly heh, yeah the app to generate the visuals is, but the app stupidly only produces a ppm stream
[18:07] <Symmetria> so I'm feeding the ppm stream into avconv to turn it into an mpeg4 and then from there into vlc to turn it into a html5 compatible format
[18:07] <Symmetria> translation: it uses a metric TON of cpu power to produce that feed
[18:07] <Symmetria> :( I need a CUDA encoder 
[18:07] <superfly> hmmm, i see
[18:07] <superfly> I was gonna say :-D
[18:08] <Symmetria> heh superfly but it looks neat :) I'm busy trying to build a full status page that will show all the mirrors and their sync stats etc
[18:08] <Symmetria> and then have that at the bottom of the page so people can see whats happening on the server
[18:08] <superfly> it would be cool to show something like that at work... we're super geeky like that
[18:45] <smile> good night :)
[18:45] <Kilos> night smile 
[19:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo peeps
[19:03] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[19:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: i'm going to build a nuclear reactor in creative mode
[19:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> test that it works
[19:05] <Kilos> haha
[19:06] <ThatGraemeGuy> and then compromise the enclosing structure to see how the meltdown works
[19:06] <Kilos> dont blow yourself up\
[19:06] <Kilos> where will you find those bones
[19:07] <Kilos> i really dont know how you use them lazer tools so well. they make big holes
[19:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> the key is to make straight lines, not all weird angles
[19:14] <nuvolari> bah! this is kinda messed up.
[19:14] <nuvolari> agents don't know how to do things effeciently
[19:15] <nuvolari> so far all the ads I see mentions a 300 bucks 'credit check' fee
[19:15] <nuvolari> why can't they share a DB?
[19:16] <nuvolari> Or can I pull a credit check myself and provide them with that?
[19:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> whaaat
[19:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> i have never in all my life had to pay any agency for anything
[19:18] <nuvolari> "Deposit and first month's rent payable before occupation - R300.00 non-refundable application fee. (for credit checks etc)"
[19:18] <nuvolari> pretty messed up IMO
[19:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh um
[19:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> rental agency?
[19:18] <nuvolari> yeah
[19:19]  * ThatGraemeGuy shuts up
[19:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> lol
[19:19] <nuvolari> heh, what agency?
[19:19] <nuvolari> oh!
[19:19] <nuvolari> lol
[19:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh yeah you got the job, you are done with those agencies
[19:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> don't mind me
[19:19] <nuvolari> lol, I was thinking about a different agency muhaha
[19:21] <Kilos> nuvolari, you looking for accomodation with that prob?
[19:21] <Kilos> try bypass agencies
[19:22] <nuvolari> oom Kilos, it seems like apartments/flats are mostly through agencies (and actually cheaper in this instance)
[19:22] <Kilos> soek n ou tannie en betaal haar direk
[19:22] <Kilos> aha
[19:22] <Kilos> then pay and smile
[19:23] <Kilos> does no one here know anyone in that area
[19:23] <Kilos> or on the lists
[19:23] <nuvolari> I've found a complex literally 100m from work, ok maybe 200m, with 3 flats, I guess identical, ranging from 4600 to 5000
[19:23] <nuvolari> with 5000 being through the owner, and the other through an agency
[19:23] <Kilos> per month?
[19:23] <nuvolari> yeah
[19:24] <Kilos> holy moly
[19:24] <nuvolari> and that's the cheaper ones oom
[19:24] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:24] <nuvolari> it's bachelor pads too, not even a 1-bedroom place
[19:24] <Kilos> i bought a house for 25k
[19:24] <Kilos> 3 bedrooms
[19:24] <Kilos> ok 100 years ago
[19:24] <nuvolari> how many years ago oom?
[19:24] <nuvolari> lol
[19:24] <Kilos> lol
[19:25] <nuvolari> wanted to ask how many centuries ago
[19:25] <Kilos> sjoe goed is duur nou ne
[19:25] <nuvolari> ja :(
[19:25] <Kilos> ai!
[19:25] <nuvolari> hier waar ek nou is betaal ek 2750
[19:25] <nuvolari> sonder water + elektrisiteit
[19:25] <Kilos> natal is altyd goedkoper met als
[19:26] <Kilos> maar salarise is gewoonlik minder ook
[20:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> superfly: you around?
[20:42] <superfly> ThatGraemeGuy: now I am, yes
[20:42] <superfly> ThatGraemeGuy: But you probably aren't anymore... sorry :-(
[20:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> almost leaving
[20:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://imgur.com/a/TmQ0Y
[20:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> HV nuclear reactor build process
[20:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> that thing is insanely powerful
[20:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> 1 of those will supply plenty of people with power for their machines
[20:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> but it is MASSIVELY expensive
[20:44] <superfly> so how do we build it?
[20:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> see all those stanless steel blocks for instance
[20:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> 1 block is 9 ingots
[20:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> 3 carbon steel + 1 chromium makes 4 stainless steel
[20:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> and chromium isn't all that abundant
[20:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> and carbon steel itself is an alloy of 2 other things
[20:45] <superfly> I've got some. Shall we put some chests together at a particular place to collect everything?
[20:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> yes i think so
[20:45] <superfly> are you in minetest at the moment?
[20:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> i was saying to kilos i'm going to figure out what we need and break it down in a google spreadsheet or something
[20:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> i just logged off
[20:46] <superfly> sounds good to me.
[20:46] <ThatGraemeGuy> my joints are starting to freeze :P
[20:46] <Kilos> hehe
[20:46] <superfly> Shall I scout out a suitable location?
[20:46] <ThatGraemeGuy> for the reactor structure? i wouldn't worry yet, we are going to spend a long while gathering materials before we are anywhere close
[20:47] <ThatGraemeGuy> you have to have the whole structure in place before using it or is triggers nuclear meltdown
[20:47] <ThatGraemeGuy> which i tried to video but screwed up, will do again another time
[20:47] <ThatGraemeGuy> i built that one using creative mode
[20:47] <Kilos> is it bad?
[20:48] <ThatGraemeGuy> you can connect on port 30001 and see
[20:48] <ThatGraemeGuy> i left it
[20:48] <Kilos> like miles of damage
[20:48] <superfly> so what do we need the most of?
[20:48] <ThatGraemeGuy> wasn't sure how to destroy the meltdown material
[20:48] <ThatGraemeGuy> outer shell is concrete
[20:48] <ThatGraemeGuy> next blast resistant concrete
[20:48] <ThatGraemeGuy> then stainless steel blocks
[20:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> the cube is 9x9x9
[20:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> so you can get an idea from those screenshots i'm sure
[20:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> but i will be putting together a nice list sometime
[20:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh if you connect to the port 30001 server, you might want to be ready to run away a short distance
[20:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> i built the reactor near the spawn point so you may start taking health damage from radiation almost immediately ;-)
[20:50] <Kilos> oh ThatGraemeGuy i wonder if dropping something on a pad will transpot it to the hub
[20:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> why wonder if you can just try? :P
[20:50] <superfly> ThatGraemeGuy: I only see "unknown item" in the crafting guide for concrete
[20:51] <ThatGraemeGuy> i don't think they would've done it that way but i haven't read the code in such detail
[20:51] <ThatGraemeGuy> superfly: is there an "alternate" button?
[20:51] <superfly> ah
[20:51] <superfly> found it
[20:51] <ThatGraemeGuy> cool
[20:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> anyhow, i need to go my electric blanket is waiting for me patiently :-D
[20:52] <Kilos> sleep tight
[20:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> ciao ciao
[20:55] <superfly> Kilos: any idea why I can't craft some stuff?
[20:55] <Kilos> what stuff superfly 
[20:55] <superfly> Kilos: like it says I just need coal to make coal dust, but it's not working
[20:55] <Kilos> some are tricky
[20:56] <Kilos> coal dust you put coal in a grinder
[20:56] <Kilos> same with gold 
[20:56] <Kilos> do you have a lv grinder
[20:57] <Kilos> and do you have a transporter pad by you yet
[20:57] <Kilos> superfly, ^^
[20:57] <superfly> ah
[20:57] <superfly> I don't
[20:57] <superfly> (on both those accounts)
[20:58] <superfly> how do I make a transporter pad?
[20:58] <Kilos> do you have lv power
[20:58] <superfly> negatory
[20:58] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh hi
[20:58] <Kilos> whew come to my house bart is there
[20:58] <ThatGraemeGuy> forgot something
[20:58] <Kilos> grinder and power too and pads
[20:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> superfly: for coal dust, take note of the method in the craft guide
[20:59] <Kilos> ya ThatGraemeGuy pad for fly to hub
[20:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> crafting, cooking, grinding, extracting, etc
[20:59] <superfly> ThatGraemeGuy: ah, OK
[20:59] <Kilos> he still needs power networks ThatGraemeGuy 
[20:59]  * superfly is very new to this, hasn't played in a while
[21:00] <Kilos> hge can work by me if you put pads quick
[21:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah the power stuff is a time sink
[21:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> superfly: go to the spot you want to be transported to from the hub
[21:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> then do /tpset name
[21:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> name can be anything but if you link it to a pad it will appear on mouseover
[21:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> so for mine i used my name
[21:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> then you place a pad
[21:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> right click it and select your named point
[21:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> and change the drop down so everyone can use it
[21:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> pretty simple
[21:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> ok done what i needed to, night night
[21:04] <Kilos> cheers ThatGraemeGuy