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raptureafternoon all. I'm trying to figure out how to create a .deb package of this: http://www.datastax.com/documentation/datastax_enterprise/4.5/datastax_enterprise/install/installSilent.html00:01
rapturedo I install it and then create a .deb of the folder it installed to?00:01
axp882hi again :)00:03
axp882theacolyte are you still there?00:04
NaSSiMhello all00:04
KamuelaHow do I install grub to the hard disk?00:05
KamuelaFrom within Ubuntu00:05
BrandonCk live cd is up00:07
patrick-hi00:07
patrick-off topic but is there trance or techno channels in freenode?00:08
NaSSiManyone can help me decrypting a file name that i crypted using gpg00:08
NaSSiMi'm getting this error message : gpg backup.gpg00:08
NaSSiMgpg: processing message failed: eof00:08
NaSSiMand i can't decrypt the file00:08
LoshkiBrandonC: ok, ready?00:09
BrandonCyup00:09
LoshkiBrandonC: let's start by opening a terminal, sudo and apt-get install gparted if it's not already there00:09
LoshkiBrandonC: let me know if I'm going too fast/slow00:10
BrandonCalready newst version00:10
LoshkiBrandonC: ok, start up gparted and lets have a look at your disks. In another window, can you pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l (that's a lower case ell!)00:11
eeeeNaSSiM: gpg -d <filename> doesn't work?00:11
noideapatrick-: the only channel I have known of is #inyourbass . I believe there are in france. They usually have good suggestion on new tracks00:11
noideathey*00:12
patrick-noidea, ok thanis00:12
patrick-thanks*00:12
NaSSiMeeee yes i have the following error : gpg: decrypt_message failed: eof00:12
BrandonCLoshki, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7844702/00:14
Loshkipatrick-: actually, I do see #austin (Austin - Technology, Music, and weirdness) but surely other servers offer more...00:14
patrick-ok00:15
Bashing-omKamuela: "simple" re-install from within the actual install -> sudo grub-install /dev/sda <-, for example -  for the 1st hard drive.00:15
BrandonCgparted up00:15
LoshkiBrandonC: anything in gparted that doesn't agree with fdisk output? If ok, time to fsck /dev/sda100:16
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LoshkiBrandonC: and be sure it does a full check, use fsck -f if you need to.00:17
LoshkiBrandonC: fsck running? I need to take 5...00:18
BrandonCgo ahead00:19
KamuelaBashing-om: thank you00:19
BrandonCill google how to fsck00:19
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Bashing-omKamuela: :D ....... corrupted files might require (re-)installing grub from the liveDVD.00:21
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Bashing-omBrandonC: Quick way for file system check/repair -> sudo e2fsck -C0 -p -f -v /dev/sda1 , If errors then ->> sudo e2fsck -f -y -v /dev/sda1 <- .00:24
Jeffrey_fNaSSiM: Do you have the same private key as you had when you encrypted the file??00:25
msxhi! do any1 know what's the best way to log-out from the CLI - meaning 'best' for 'cleanest'?00:26
msx\00:26
somsipmsx: CTRL D00:26
Jeffrey_fmsx: exit usually works for me.00:26
geniimsx: If you have external drives that have been doing transfers, maybe sudo sync first.00:27
msxsomsip: Jeffrey_f hi, I apologize for now explaining myself in a better way, I mean log out from the current session, not the terminal!00:27
BrandonChttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7844743/ Loshki00:27
msxgenii: hi, yes, that's why I was asking for a clean way and not just a lightdm restart or sudo reboot00:28
geniimsx: The sudo reboot or sudo shutdown -r now will usually do the required stuff needed for clean exit00:29
msxgenii: yes, but at a system-level, that command will force-close any running application, I guess there should be a prettier way to do that sending first a SIGTERM to all running apps so they can quit safely00:31
msx*that command will _otherwise_00:31
msxgenii: somsip Jeffrey_f: gnome-session-quit --help  <--- i think this will do it00:32
TheKernel-workis there a recommended ftp server to install onto ubuntu 14.04 with instructions? proftpd seems to have passive issues and vsftpd just will not run...00:33
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Ali_M_Ahmedf00:36
guest-lucashi, some menus, launchers, etc. have commands followed by a percent sign and a letter... I can't find what they mean. For example, what's the difference between executing "firefox", and "firefox %u"? Thanks00:36
Ali_M_Ahmedsorry00:36
LoshkiBrandonC: still there? Your fsck looks fine, which means your hardware is good. Let's sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt and look around...00:45
BrandonCLoshki, k00:46
xtrizin /usr/share/doc only info related to bug fixing and a packages are stored ?00:47
funnyboy243What is it like in there?00:47
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Loshkixtriz: pretty much anything that could be called documentation for an application goes in there...00:48
funnyboy243I think my brain is still partly damaged when Mindy's ass sucked it up because I don't get how that relates to gt.00:49
Loshkifunnyboy243: wrong channel...00:49
funnyboy243Can you please play with me, ?00:49
BrandonCLoshki, done00:50
funnyboy243Do you prefer books or TV?00:50
LoshkiBrandonC: first, lets have a look at /mnt/var/log/Xorg.0.log or similar. Look for "error" etc.00:51
funnyboy243Tell me more about your . Can you show me a pic of it?00:51
Loshki!ops please show funnyboy243 the error of his ways00:52
ubottuLoshki: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)00:52
funnyboy243Where is that?00:52
IdleOnefunnyboy243: If you're in the mood for chatting please join #ubuntu-offtopic. This channel is only for Ubuntu support questions00:53
funnyboy243I think there might be a few exception. What does "this" refer to?00:53
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noideaWhat is another way to bring up a second NIC. ifup tells me ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1. I know i have done this before, i just had to restart the system and have forgotten00:53
funnyboy243Would you like to know more? By the way, do you mind if I ask you a personal question? Where? What does "this" refer to?00:54
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Vivekananda_y510hey everyone00:55
Vivekananda_y510hey everyone. I have a wifi lan and trying to figure out 1. what is my average internal lan speed  2. How much time should it take for 1 gig file to transfer from ubuntu 12.04 on the wifi to me on windows 8.1 on the wifi. Can someone help . The program lan speed test gave me this  : http://imgur.com/AzgRJH6  on windows 8.1 . Now how should I proceed on windows machine ?00:55
funnyboy243You've got my full attention. All people?00:56
ObrienDave*no feeding trolls*00:56
funnyboy243Are you serious? Let us change the subject.00:56
17SAAK7LQI need a webcam emulator so I can add it to my android virtual machine00:56
xtrizLoshki, ok :)00:56
funnyboy243Why do you need it so badly?00:56
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BrandonCLoshki, so im in mnt var log and dont see anything like that00:57
Vivekananda_y510I will wait please feel to respond if someone can point me in the right direction.00:59
funnyboy240Do you think your plan will succeed?00:59
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Bashing-omBrandonC: Should be there ! what returns from -> ls -la /mnt/var/log/Xorg.0.log <- ??01:02
funnyboy240What were we talking about again? Are you using Netscape or Explorer?01:02
daftykinsVivekananda_y510: what's the end goal here? you want to know the speed in MB/sec (megabytes per second) if your wireless adapter?01:03
funnyboy240What else is the end goal here? Yes, please tell me.01:03
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daftykinsfunnyboy240: please leave.01:05
funnyboy240Who is your favorite color for a Torlet?01:05
maryahi01:06
funnyboy240Hello there.01:06
daftykinsIdleOne: i believe it's time to escort our friend off the premises, if you could please01:09
daftykinsor at least +q01:09
funnyboy240Your polite style is very nice. And time to escort our friend off the premises if me could is IdleOne you believe it.01:09
daftykinsbot.01:09
funnyboy240Nope, but you are.01:09
BrandonCBashing-om,  thats Xorg.zero.log right?01:09
funnyboy240I think Bashing om that is a lot of things.01:10
Bashing-omBrandonC: correct. Xorg.zero.log01:10
funnyboy240So Andy Rothfusz, what do you like to do for fun when you're bored? Let us change the subject.01:10
Vivekananda_y510daftykins, my aim is to know the speed then find out what I get when I transfer a big file ( taking 40 mins for a file of 1.5 gig size) and then see if this is good or if my internal speed is very less than expected01:11
BrandonCno such fileor direectory01:11
daftykinsVivekananda_y510: what wireless standard are your wireless adapters and your access point / router?01:11
Vivekananda_y510I am not very sure supposedly an N router01:12
BrandonCBashing-om, i have teamview set up if you wana remote connect01:12
Bashing-omBrandonC: Unusual ?? .. ok, what about -> ls -la /mnt <- let's see if the mount exists.01:12
daftykinsVivekananda_y510: do you have a make and model?01:12
Vivekananda_y510is there a way I can figure it out on the machine ? ie ubuntu01:12
Vivekananda_y510I guess01:12
Vivekananda_y510one sec lemme get that01:12
BrandonCBashing-om, list of folder/files01:13
daftykinsVivekananda_y510: yeah more than likely there'd be a wireless status command, or looking at network manager's information on the active connection01:13
Bashing-omBrandonC: OK, then, -> ls -la /mnt/var/log/kern.log <- . see if that log file exists.01:14
Vivekananda_y510daftykins, the router is linksys wgr614 v901:15
17SAAK7LQever since an update I can't rearrange my unity icons, can someone help?01:15
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Vivekananda_y510but how does that help ? I mean from the image output I pasted what do you expect the wifi lan speed to be ?01:16
BrandonCBashing-om, no such file01:16
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Vivekananda_y510ie ideally how long should it take for a 2 gig file to be transferred ? http://imgur.com/AzgRJH6 daftykins01:16
Foxhoundzwpa_supplicant keeps disconnecting with ioctl[SIOCSIWFREQ]: Device or resource busy01:17
Foxhoundzthis is the command I supplied sudo wpa_supplicant -Dwext -iwlan0 -c/home/nuc/wpa.conf01:17
daftykinsVivekananda_y510: lol, hang on... let's start with the facts. can you also identify your wireless adapters on both these PCs? or is only one wireless?01:17
FoxhoundzPlease help01:17
ObrienDaveVivekananda_y510, according to your image, you can read it in 1.25 seconds. i dont really believe that for a second (pun intended)01:17
Vivekananda_y510ObrienDave, the sample file size was 20 mbs or 50 mbs only not 1.5 gigs if that is what you meant01:18
LoshkiBashing-om: BrandonC: it's not clear if the install completed satisfactorily. But now we know the hardware is good. Frankly, I'd do a from-scratch reinstall using 12.04 and see if that works...01:18
BrandonCthis is from live cd01:18
daftykinsVivekananda_y510: ok so that router is IEEE 802.11g only, that's 54Mb/sec *including* the MAC layer. the best i've ever seen over wifi from a wired host to a wireless host was ~3MB/sec with WPA201:18
BrandonCno install01:18
daftykinsVivekananda_y510: that equates to 24Mb/sec (megabits per second)01:19
luke__whoami01:19
Vivekananda_y510daftykins, assuming that speed how long will it take to transfer 2 gig file01:19
daftykinsVivekananda_y510: are both your systems wireless?01:19
ObrienDaveVivekananda_y510, your image says you can write 1,744,659,254 Bytes per second. that i don't believe01:19
LoshkiBrandonC: I thought you'd tried to install 14.04 and it wouldn't come up?01:20
daftykinsi agree with ObrienDave - that program is rubbish01:20
Vivekananda_y510ObrienDave, ok01:20
BrandonCLoshki, ya01:20
BrandonCLoshki> BrandonC: A new cable can't hurt. I'd like a chance to poke around with the live cd if you try again...01:20
Vivekananda_y510daftykins, yes both are wireless. The ubuntu 12.04 is a lenovo T61  and the windows 8.1 is a lenovo y510p01:21
ObrienDaveVivekananda_y510, now, if it's a 10Gbs wired connection, i would believe that number, almost01:21
EsoRoticaMy T61 sure wouldn ever pull that fast.01:21
EsoRoticaNot by a long shot.01:21
Vivekananda_y510ObrienDave, I agree with you that it is too much. I just looked up the program and posted its results assuming it would help in getting to the root of my problem :)01:22
daftykinsVivekananda_y510: wireless to wireless with good signal you're not going to see more than 2MB/sec which would make the answer 1024 seconds = 17 minutes01:22
Vivekananda_y510EsoRotica, I did the speed measure from the windows 8.1 lenovo y510p. the T61 has ubuntu01:22
LoshkiBrandonC: and now we've poked around we know your hardware is working & your disks look fine. I don't know what went wrong with your install attempt. What do you plan to do next?01:23
daftykinsVivekananda_y510: what's the 'problem' then?01:23
EsoRoticaEither way, your result shows 1.744625 GBps01:23
Vivekananda_y510daftykins, so a 2gig file on an average should take 17 mins correct ? Now the problem is my laptops are taking 40 to 45 mins for the transfer01:23
Vivekananda_y510I am wondering if this is just a signal issue or is there something I can do to make this transfer faster01:23
daftykinsVivekananda_y510: are they in the same room as the router? no walls?01:23
daftykinsVivekananda_y510: you really ought to install something that will gauge the speed a lot better than this.01:24
Vivekananda_y510no router is one wall separated and around 12 metres away01:24
Vivekananda_y510daftykins, sure point me to something for ubuntu and I will try right away01:24
daftykinsVivekananda_y510: if you installed apache on the windows box, shared a huge file, then used the ubuntu one to wget that file, you'll see realtime stats01:24
daftykinsan FTP server on the windows box would also achieve the same thing01:25
daftykinsor sharing a folder in Windows then accessing it via the ubuntu laptop01:25
daftykinswatching the file copy stats01:25
Vivekananda_y510daftykins, i have apache on the windows box but I guess I will have to port forward or something to access it from the linux is it ?01:25
daftykinsVivekananda_y510: no because you're both on the same LAN... "wget http://IP of windows box/hugefile.ext"01:25
Bashing-omLoshki: BrandonC // No harm in trying to (RE-)install ... still with that "Partition outside the disk detected." have not figured that one out yet. What we might do is make a new partition table with GParted, in the install process - DO NOT - check 3rd party software" or "install updates while installing:// old ATI graphics card with no vendor support, and we can update the system after install completes.01:26
Vivekananda_y510daftykins, I tried it the other way round ie I shared a folder on samba on ubuntu and then tried copying over on windows and was getting 40 50 mints expected for 1.6 gb file :(01:26
daftykinsVivekananda_y510: uh-huh and what speed did windows report? also bear in mind the task manager in Windows has the network utilisation tab01:26
BrandonCi have gparted up still in live01:26
Vivekananda_y510daftykins, that is what it said ie 50 mins for 1.6 gb file01:27
Vivekananda_y510I forget the speed01:27
Vivekananda_y510can try again though01:27
daftykinsVivekananda_y510: exactly ;) give it another go.01:27
Vivekananda_y510okay one sec01:27
daftykinsVivekananda_y510: ultimately you're coming up against one of the most blatant laws of wireless networking - it's crap.01:27
daftykinsVivekananda_y510: cables are lovely.01:28
grobe0bathat, and SMB throughput is always going to be crap01:28
grobe0bait's a crap protocol with a lot of overhead01:28
BrandonCwhat should i do in gparted?01:28
daftykinsnot true.01:28
LoshkiBashing-om: BrandonC: "Partition outside the disk detected."? I missed that bit. I agree. Wipe the disk, repartition, and install...01:28
Vivekananda_y510averaging 700 800 kBps01:29
LoshkiBrandonC: there's nothing of importance on the disk, right?01:29
Vivekananda_y51045 mins expected for file 1.5 gigs01:29
BrandonCcorrect01:29
daftykinsVivekananda_y510: now try again with both laptops in the same room as the router several metres apart01:29
daftykinsso they form a V01:29
daftykinsor more like an L01:29
Vivekananda_y510umm that would be tough to do right now but I see your poing01:30
Vivekananda_y510can do it later in the night01:30
daftykinswhy-so?01:30
BrandonCi dont know what to do in gparted. i have installed teamviewer if one of you wants to connect remotly01:30
Vivekananda_y510people , guests around I am working in my room01:30
Vivekananda_y510:) social stuff kind of thing01:30
amineeeHello I need some help I can't boot any more i get unable to find device error then i drop to easybox shell I am booted live from a cd when i try to mount the hard drive i get error msg so  i assume it's a prob with it what shld  i do i have some inportant files any help please ?01:30
daftykinsVivekananda_y510: ok so it's a house with shared wireless too? how many devices on the network wirelessly?01:30
genoobieTJ-, hey01:31
TJ-genoobie: Ooops :)01:31
daftykinsamineee: what's the error?01:31
Vivekananda_y510umm currently none active but a total of 4 laptops and 3 phones on it01:31
Vivekananda_y510including 2 of mine01:31
Vivekananda_y510laptops01:31
genoobieI know it was totally an accident01:31
genoobiedidn't have time to fix mistake01:31
amineeedaftykins: Unable to mount 358 GB Filesystem Error mounting: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,        missing codepage or helper program, or other error        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try        dmesg | tail  or so01:31
daftykinsVivekananda_y510: ok, well as long as the other laptops aren't pushing masses of data by e.g. downloading or torrenting or something equally 'noisy' in terms of the wireless01:31
genoobieTJ-, anyhow the syslog is too long for pastebin01:32
daftykinsamineee: are you typing from this live session right now?01:32
amineeeyep01:32
daftykinsamineee: ok is the live session of 14.04 ubuntu media?01:32
Vivekananda_y510btw the time to tranfer settled down to 28 minutes and that is not sooo bad. But still I always thought we had come a long way since old days and now the data tranfer on wifi is much closer to the usb 2.0 or something but apparently it is not01:32
TJ-genoobie: OK... how many lines does it have? "wc -l /var/log/syslog" ?01:32
daftykinsamineee: "cat /etc/issue"01:32
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amineeedaftykins: nope it's a 12.04 cd i found01:33
genoobieTJ-, hang a sec01:33
genoobiethere is something strange01:33
LoshkiBrandonC: I have to go eat dinner :-). Basically, you want to delete all existing partitions and start again, allocate a 10GB partition for /, allocate swap same size as ram, the rest is /home. http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gparted.html01:33
genoobiewhen I did the iwlist wlan0 freq there are eleven channels01:33
genoobiebut my router has 1301:33
BrandonCi only have 1 gig of ddr01:34
Vivekananda_y510daftykins, my only so called 'problem' was to figure out if there is something in the systems themselves or something in between connecting a windows to a ubuntu that can bottleneck the transfer speed. If so what and how to lessen it01:34
daftykinsamineee: ok that's alright, give me 5 mins then i can assist more, just need to take care of something. although if you can run in the terminal "dmesg | tail" then paste it to paste.ubuntu.com we can see what happened with that mount01:34
genoobieTJ-, 13219 lines in syslog01:34
LoshkiBrandonC: or just install 12.04 LTS, since it's the most stable all the releases currently out there...01:34
amineeeok Will do thnx for your time :)01:34
Lost_xhello guys. even in linux environment (ubuntu) we can not more than 4 partitions in a single physical drive?01:34
BrandonCLoshki, cant i remove all partitions and let ubuntu cd do it?01:34
daftykinsVivekananda_y510: i'm pretty sure you're just up against a rubbish old router trying to do something with 802.11g that it just can't achieve01:35
TJ-genoobie: That's why I wanted to see the pastebin of the 'iwlist wlan0 freq' output01:35
Lost_xhello guys. even in linux environment (ubuntu) we can not creaete more than 4 partitions in a single physical drive?01:35
LoshkiBrandonC: ubuntu cd should do it all for you, I just don't trust 14.04 is all....01:35
genoobieTJ-, I can do that pastebin in a sec\01:35
Lost_xhere's the image http://ibin.co/1UMx7Y0GRHhy01:35
TJ-genoobie: Let's also see the last 750 lines of syslog. If you have it hooked up on the Ethernet cable you can do "tail -n 750 /var/log/syslog | pastebinit"01:35
awesomess3Loshki, but you can trust 10.04 because its code name is "Trusty Tahr"01:36
awesomess3*14.0401:36
TJ-but you can't trust your fingers :p01:36
Vivekananda_y510daftykins, yeah it is an old one but I am trying to figure out the available and the expected speed for that router itself and not for some standard or high performance router01:36
genoobieTJ-, here's the link for wlan freq01:36
genoobiehttp://pastebin.com/fCxpN53Z01:36
TJ-genoobie: thanks :)01:36
Bashing-omLost_x: Yepper, in the 'legacy' - MBR - partitioning scheme ... EFI (UEFI) a whole new ball game.01:36
ly_这是中文社区么?01:37
Loshkiawesomess3: it's a dot-oh release. These things never change. History says it won't be bullet proof until around 14.04.4...01:37
spjtLost_x: it looks like you can have up to 64k partitions using LVM01:37
genoobieTJ-, here's the last 750 of syslog01:37
genoobiehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7844974/01:37
amineeedaftykins: I got the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/7844970/ whenever you're free ping me :)01:38
TJ-genoobie: That's what I'd expect to see for the US region ... 11 x 802.11g 20MHz channels... but from the dmesg output it shows the adapter should also be seeing 40MHz HT channels... if your router is operating in 802.11gn mode with 40 Mhz channels, this could be the cause01:38
Bashing-omBrandonC: With GParted just make sure that you are messing about with 'sda' .. I would think just choosing the option "new" from the "devices' menu option -> msdos ; should suffice. Then yeah, let the install wizard make up the install.01:38
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daftykinsamineee: oh dear, that doesn't look good. what happened prior to this issue? did you do any upgrades or did it just happen when you came to switch your computer on one day?01:39
BrandonCya im looking around. its wierd01:40
genoobieTJ-, no, I think there's another issue01:40
genoobieI was looking at the syslong01:40
micromwhat do I do with this in precise -> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/cups_1.5.3-0ubuntu8.4_amd64.deb01:40
TJ-genoobie: Got it! "rfkill: WLAN hard blocked" ... your hardware radio kill switch is in the "on" position01:40
tracphilhow is iptables getting loaded with rules on 14.04? ufw is disabled.01:40
Bashing-omBrandonC: Take your time .. the help files in GParted will help a lot .. sparse but accurate info.01:41
TJ-genoobie: Check with: "rfkill list all"01:41
awesomess3microm, we only support versions: 10.04 LTS (server), 12.04 LTS, and 14.04 LTS01:41
genoobiebut I put the ath5k no_hw_rfkill_switch=1 in the ath5k.conf file01:41
amineee @ daftykins : well i experienced some freezes but it's an old machine i am getting a new one in a few days i just want to know if there is any way to get some data out of the drive01:41
daftykinsamineee: ok, lets see if there's something up with the disk to start with then01:42
awesomess3Loshki, I didn't get the greatest luck with 13.10 either, which is a dot-one release I guess.01:42
genoobie1: phy0: Wireless Lan01:42
genoobienothing blocked01:42
TJ-genoobie: I know, but what does "rfkill list all" report? Is the Wifi phy blocked?01:42
daftykinsamineee: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install smartmontools" first please01:42
genoobienope01:42
TJ-genoobie: both hard and soft say "no" ?01:42
genoobiebut I may have manually unblocked it by unloading / reloading ath5k driver01:42
daftykinsamineee: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" also, followed by "smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit" which should give you a link to paste here01:43
TJ-genoobie: lets get this issue resolved first, there is no point trying other things until we're sure the RF kill is not enabled01:43
amineeedaftykins: ok will get back to you ASAP01:43
daftykinsgood stuff :)01:43
micromawesomess3: oh, I thought precise pangolin was in the 12.04 LTS series.01:44
genoobieTJ-, presently both hard and soft say no01:44
TJ-genoobie: OK... I'm reading to the end of the syslog ... if it was enabled later I should see that01:44
TJ-genoobie: aha! "<info> WiFi now enabled by radio killswitch"01:45
genoobieok01:45
TJ-genoobie: OK, let me do some more digging here, for more tests you can do01:45
awesomess3microm, based on the name of the cups package I assumed the release on hand was 8.*01:46
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linuxhello01:47
linuxdddd01:47
daftykinshello.01:47
linuxwhat are you doing ?01:48
Lost_xBashing-om, spjt, i noticed that when i install win7 the system reserved drive it created is also partition...01:48
almostworkingmicrom: percise is 12.04 LTS for ubuntu....... Mint 17 is based on te 14.4 buntu LTS01:48
Lost_xBashing-om, spjt, i'm burning ubuntu 14.04lts 64bit iso... maybe this will resolve01:48
daftykinslinux: i'm about to ask you to ask an ubuntu support question, else please visit #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat :)01:48
linuxOK01:48
genoobieTJ-, lanox seemed to think it may have something to do with Network manager01:49
ses1984hey, sorry if this is a dumb quesiton: i've generated a pgp key in the passwords and keys program...how do i get out the public key so i can share it?01:49
almostworkingoh man, im in wrong channel,  LOL01:49
micromalmostworking: I use mint 1301:49
TJ-genoobie: I see no evidence of that, NM has *nothing* to do with running "iwlist wlan0 scan"01:49
patrick-noidea, i know im off topic again but...01:49
ObrienDaveLost_x, how's it going?01:49
genoobiegotcha01:50
patrick-noidea, is there a dating site thats free ? i got this dating program on my iphone but it charges again money01:50
patrick-lol01:50
daftykinspatrick-: don't say it then.01:50
daftykinspatrick-: not interested, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic thanks01:50
almostworkingmicrom:  i see, far as i know min 13, is based on ubuntu 12   ( i use ubuntu 122 on primary desktop macine(01:50
ubottuUbuntu bug 122 in Launchpad itself "document new database setup trickery" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/12201:50
Lost_xObrienDate, burning ubuntu 14.04lts 64bit iso... maybe this will resolve01:50
patrick-ok01:50
patrick-sorry01:50
Lost_xwhere can we find an irc client in ubuntu?01:51
genoobieObrienDave, just installed 14, make sure atheros is not your wireless card01:51
genoobie:)01:51
Bashing-omLost_x: Best I recall, the issue from last night was GPT partitions and no EFI boot partition ?? ( I have slept since then ) . We want to boot up in UEFI mode and install Windows 7 1st, and still in UEFI mode install ubuntu ... correct ?01:51
genoobieLost_x, synaptic01:51
genoobieLost_x, xhcat is pretty good01:51
ObrienDaveLost_x, use tab to auto complete nicks after typing in 3 or 4 characters01:51
amineeedaftykins: while installing the first package smartmontools i left the default configuration .. but when i tried installing the pastebinit it returned an unable to locate package error .. any way i manually paste it  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7845020/01:51
Lost_xdo we need to download it or it is included in the OS?01:51
genoobieprobably included01:52
genoobiesynaptic01:52
ObrienDaveBashing-om, yes, that is correct01:52
blueingressLost_x, irssi is good enough01:52
daftykinsamineee: ah my apologies, that should be "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda"01:52
ObrienDaveLost_x, you'll like HexChat much better01:52
Lost_xwhen ubunto is installed who is the super user/admin?01:53
Bashing-omObrienDave: Lost_x :: OK, my head is on now ... here we go ...01:53
amineeedaftykins:  :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/7845032/01:53
TJ-genoobie: Can you do "for c in power txpower event modu scan; do sudo iwlist wlan0 $c; done | pastebinit" ?01:53
sargascan I install linux-headers-3.11.0-19-generic  on Ubuntu 14.04?01:54
daftykinsamineee: yes that disk has failed and is going to get worse01:54
Lost_xdone burning the iso and its now verifying the disc.... i think we are good to go....01:55
daftykinsamineee: you can see from the values on lines 194 and 204 which are what i used to come to this conclusion01:55
genoobieTJ-, there's also something in dmesg about IPv6 wlan0 is not ready01:55
TJ-genoobie: entirely expected :)01:55
amineeedaftykins: I see ..  so should i take it to some it gut who can physicly do something and try to get me those data ?01:55
genoobieand something about can't disable ASPM01:55
daftykinsamineee: we could try to do something to get some data off there, but you'd need another drive to copy that data to... do you have another?01:56
genoobiehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7845038/01:56
genoobieTJ-, that's the output01:56
amineeedaftykins: I have a usb stick will that do ?01:56
daftykinsamineee: it depends on the size of your data really, do you have a lot on there? Pictures/Music/etc?01:56
genoobieTJ-, why does it say  "current mode: off"01:57
amineeedaftykins:  nah just some work files .. it will fit in it01:57
TJ-genoobie: because the interface isn't in use01:57
daftykinsamineee: could you also pastebin "sudo fdisk -l" please?01:58
TJ-genoobie: OK, that all looks as expected01:58
Bashing-omLost_x: OK, ! Ya did boot up the operating system in "UEFI" mode and (RE-)installed Windows & ... right ? so now we will install ubuntu 14.04 ... correct ?01:59
TJ-genoobie: (except that there are no scan results). ASPM is PCIe Advanced State Power Management.01:59
genoobieTJ-, I have a question01:59
amineeedaftykins: -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7845044/01:59
TJ-genoobie: fire away?01:59
sargascan I install linux-headers-3.11.0-19-generic  on Ubuntu 14.04?01:59
genoobieI did a modprobe -rvf ath5k and it took out cfg80211, mac80211, ath, ath5k01:59
sargascan I install 3.11.0-19-generic kernel  on Ubuntu 14.04?01:59
genoobiewhen I did modprobe -v ath5k listed also was ath02:00
genoobieis it possible that it's using ath and ath5k02:00
genoobieif so is that a problem?02:00
genoobieoh nm, I think ath5k depends on ath02:01
TJ-genoobie: ath5k depends on all those other modules02:01
genoobieTJ-, this is baffling02:01
ObrienDaveBashing-om, i think i had Lost_x turn off fast boot mode02:01
Lost_xBashing-om: its already in uefi mode02:01
eligreycan anyone suggest an ubuntu-compatible 2x2 802.11ac usb adapter?02:02
Bashing-omLost_x: ObrienDave Let's boot to the installer then, see what ubiguity now sees for install options ! -- looking for - install along side !02:02
ObrienDaveeligrey, anyone but broadcom02:03
daftykinsamineee: ok, if you know a Linux expert that can help you'd probably be better off popping by them - but if the data isn't *deadly important* then you can give it a try repairing the disk enough to mount it again. if so, try running "sudo fsck -y /dev/sda1"02:03
TJ-genoobie: Can you do "sudo apt-get install fwts" and then "cd $HOME && sudo fwts aspm && pastebinit result.log"02:03
ObrienDaveBashing-om, that is the option we could NOT find last night02:03
genoobieTJ-, what do you think of this?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2160177 about midway through the page there's a suggestion of uninstalling / reinstalling firmware02:03
eligreyObrienDave: any you would suggest specifically?02:03
ObrienDaveeligrey, sorry, no. mine is built in02:03
eligreyok02:04
ObrienDaveeligrey, oh, and NO Belkins02:04
genoobieactually it's toward the bottom of the page02:04
amineeedaftykins:  i think i'll take my chances :D is there a 10% success chance ?02:04
eligreygotcha02:04
Lost_xObrienDave: do we need to turn on the fast mode or just leave it disabled?02:04
genoobieTJ-, do you still want me to do those commands02:04
TJ-genoobie: Yes please02:05
genoobieokay02:05
genoobieon it02:05
ObrienDavei would like to try with fast boot off. Bashing-om, what do you think?02:05
TJ-genoobie: If there was missing firmware the kernel log (dmesg, syslog) would tell us02:05
daftykinsamineee: i really couldn't say, so proceed with caution as if you don't care about never seeing the files again ;)02:05
genoobieTJ-, what is fwts?02:05
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Bashing-omOkaria: Lost_x Agreed, we want fast boot turned off ( Seems that is a hibernation mode for Windows, and realy messes up booting ubuntu !).02:06
* fsdfs OUT!02:06
ObrienDaveLost_x, ok, let's give it a go!02:06
TJ-genoobie: firmware test suite02:07
mkrzhello #ubuntu. I get 'low disk space in filesystem root' warning all the time. what do?02:07
TJ-genoobie: allows us to check out the motherboard's ASPM support02:07
genoobieokay02:07
amineeedaftykins: that didn't take long .. should i pastebin the output ?02:07
daftykinsamineee: sure02:07
raselhellow...02:07
TJ-genoobie: Also, whilst we're at it "sudo lspci -nnvvvk | pastebinit" :)02:07
amineeedaftykins: ah my mistake it's still runnning  .. ''Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes Pass 2: Checking directory structure ''02:08
genoobieTJ-, you got it02:08
Lost_xok,,, reinstalling win7. we are back to 002:08
raselanyone know bengali??02:08
ObrienDaveLost_x, cool, give us a holler when done02:08
genoobieTJ-, here is the lspci output http://paste.ubuntu.com/7845065/02:08
mkrzyes i know bengali02:09
ObrienDaveLost_x, back in 20 minutes or so02:09
Bashing-omBrandonC: How ya doing ? .. found the means to remake the partition table in GParted ?02:09
mkrzhow do i increase diskspace on root file system?02:09
Bashing-omLost_x: Not al all, look at all we have learned ... kept us out of jail !02:10
geniimkrz: You can reduce the amount of space allocated to superuser with tune2fs02:10
xanguamkrz: backup and increase it from a live session02:10
amineeedaftykins: on another topic .. I have a usb stick with deleted(i think even formated) files any recommended recovery tool ?02:11
genoobiethat fwts is a pretty extensive pkg02:11
xangua !recover02:11
ubottuSome tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel02:11
advx_Hello All, Good Morning, Have a great day....02:11
daftykinsamineee: do you know what file system it had?02:12
TJ-genoobie: I've just confirmed on the ath5k driver dev's site: "This driver requires no firmware or binary-only HAL!"02:12
mkrzgenii,xangua: thanks. i'll check them out.02:12
advx_Help: Calling CRDA to update world regulatory domain?? keeps coming in log every ~4-10 seconds.....??02:12
genoobiewell there you have it then02:12
amineeedaftykins: it has fat i think the one windows use02:13
advx_already set country to mine country code...02:13
genoobieI mean if I had an old laptop kicking around I'd grab the mini-pci and trash this one02:13
amineeethnx xangua :)02:13
daftykinsamineee: hrmm did it get a quick format or a full format?02:13
amineeequick02:14
daftykinsthat's lucky then02:14
mkrzxangua: the automatic backup with suffice? and what's a live session. do i have to select something while boot-up?02:14
mkrzwill*02:14
daftykinsamineee: i know windows utilities but i've not done it with Linux, perhaps testdisk is worth a go - i wouldn't do it at the same time as your current task though :D02:14
daftykinsmkrz: live = booting from ubuntu USB/DVD02:14
genoobieTJ-, the sudo fwts aspm command did not return a url02:15
mkrzdaftykins: aah ok02:15
Lost_xObrienDave: Bashing-om: are we installing ubuntu alongisde windows? or may be can install windows in "something else"?02:15
genoobiecd $HOME && sudo fwts aspm && pastebinit result.log02:15
genoobie2 passed, 4 warnings02:15
amineeedaftykins:  I'll have to wait then :D what are the names of these utilities please ?02:16
TJ-genoobie: did you pipe it to pastebinit ?02:16
daftykinsamineee: windows ones?02:16
amineeedaftykins:  yes please02:16
genoobiewhat is the way to pastebinit?02:16
daftykinsamineee: "getdataback for FAT" is one i've had success with02:17
Bashing-omLost_x: Like this, we "can" install 'something else', but we do want the advanced partitioning scheme and the ease of installation for ubuntu from " install along side" option.02:17
TJ-genoobie: ignore me, I'm getting confused :) "fwts aspm" should have created the file "result.txt" in the current directory, which pastebinit should send... maybe that file wasn't created where I expected02:17
amineeedaftykins:  ok i'll give it a try .. the repairing finished .. /dev/sda1: ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED ***** /dev/sda1: 318736/21848064 files (0.3% non-contiguous), 7085123/87385856 blocks02:17
genoobieTJ-, result(s).log02:17
TJ-genoobie: "pastebinit results.log"  - I missed off the 's' :)02:18
genoobiehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7845094/02:18
genoobie:)02:18
TJ-genoobie: you can tell its gone 3am !02:18
amineeedaftykins:  those are the last two lines of the output ..02:18
genoobieThere's not much here either only 2 hours of sleep02:18
genoobienothing stands out there either02:19
daftykinsamineee: "sudo mkdir /mnt/drive && sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sda1 /mnt/drive"02:19
Lost_xBashing-om:  ok. installing win7 now...02:19
TJ-genoobie: nothing out of place in the fwts results02:20
amineeedaftykins:  didn't give back an error msg .. good news i hope ?02:20
laughingtigerlinux is an angel, thus windows is the demon.02:20
daftykinsamineee: indeed! "ls /mnt/drive"02:21
daftykinsamineee: "ls /mnt/drive/home/<your username here>/"02:21
amineeedaftykins:  yeah i am browsing the files :D THANK YOU :D02:21
daftykinsno problem :)02:21
laughingtigerWindows corrupts people02:22
amineeeis ther ea way to give you a star or sth ! :p02:22
genoobieTJ-, my work laptop has a wireless card...02:22
genoobienah nevermind02:22
genoobieTJ-, what about madwifi?02:22
daftykinsamineee: haha, nope - i get by on the good feeling of assistance and success alone \o/02:22
TJ-genoobie: I was about to ask, do you have another PC that *can* connect to the Access Point, that we could use to compare wifi results02:22
daftykinsamineee: just make sure you get that data off there and consider that drive completely toast, it's only fit for giving away to electronics recycling now02:23
genoobieTJ-, yes02:23
genoobierunning the same OS02:23
genoobiedifferent card02:23
TJ-genoobie: That'd be fab! I want to see what that reports for "sudo iwlist wlan0 scan"02:23
genoobieokay hold a sec02:23
genoobieTJ-, what was the apt-get install pastebinit?02:24
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amineeedaftykins: Thank you again .. will give it away tmrw ..  Any recommandations for my new laptop :p02:24
genoobiesame OS, same version02:24
daftykinsamineee: do you want to wipe that drive at all so nobody can get the data when you give it away?02:24
genoobieboth HP machines02:25
genoobieone has a broadcom, the other atheros02:25
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amineeedaftykins: yeah of course .. didn't think of that02:25
TJ-genoobie: you got it correct first time 'pastebinit' is the package02:25
BrandonCBashing-om, its taking long tome to delete partition02:26
daftykinsamineee: so you could zero fill it which would be easy, but only once you're ready of course! "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=2M" this will take quite a while, you'll see the disk light stay on permanently until it's done02:27
genoobieTJ, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7845148/02:27
Bashing-omBrandonC: Something is "wrong" ! .. should only take a few seconds ... It is hard to imigine what to suggest at this point, wait and see what happens ( ??? ).02:28
amineeedaftykins: Roger .. Thanks Again ! .. I still have a lot to learn :/ ..02:29
morpheus_gramineee, you can send kill sighup to monitor dd progress02:29
morpheus_grkill -usr102:29
TJ-genoobie: which SSID is yours? both?02:29
genoobieTJ-, Memet02:30
amineeemorpheus_gr: how to do that please ?02:30
snadgehas anyone else noticed an issue with intel chipset.. that when going full screen in youtube.. it doesnt actually scale to the full screen?02:30
snadgeim just wondering if thats flash.. driver.. or hardware related02:30
morpheus_grps -ef |grep dd  get the pid and then kill -USR1 pid from another console amineee02:30
daftykinsmorpheus_gr: :) would've shared that if i weren't feeling so lazy02:31
amineee@ ok i think i get it ..02:31
linux_farsighthhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh02:32
BrandonCBashing-om, you wana connect via tiemviewer and take a look? i cant even click on details02:32
TJ-genoobie: OK, that helps me alot, I now can predict what the Atheros should report/see/do02:32
morpheus_grlol daftykins02:32
linux_farsightjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj02:32
linuxpppppppppppppppp02:32
aneksis the 14.04.1 update supposed to happen today?02:32
TJ-genoobie: I'd like to go back to the obvious issue - that despite what we see, RF Kill has the radio turned off - that explains the failure to scan02:32
snadgehttp://askubuntu.com/questions/36820/how-to-make-youtube-fullscreen-actually-fullscreen  .. never mind, its an FAQ.. one of these days i'll ask a question that someone actually answers ;)02:32
genoobieTJ-, any way to disable the whole rfkill driver and recognition thin02:33
Bashing-omBrandonC: Sorry no teamviewer installed .. sweat not, we will muddle through this .. get's too deep TJ_ will bail us out !02:33
genoobiejust fool linux into believing that there is no rf kill switch?02:33
daftykinssnadge: HTML5 - ooh yes not using flash at all seems a great idea to me :)02:33
BrandonCstart heaving the buckets02:33
genoobieTJ-, let me reboot and re-do that tail command02:33
genoobiebrb02:34
OerHeksaneks, yes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule02:34
TJ-Bashing-om: did someone mention my name?02:35
ObrienDaveLost_x, how goes the install?02:36
aneksOerHeks: that's what I was going by, just not sure what time zone that's based by? I'm in Australia02:36
Bashing-omTJ-: Kinda, in a round about kind of way .. ( sure glad you are in the channel ).02:36
OerHeksaneks, nope, just wait and see02:37
genoobieTJ-, I'm back...02:37
TJ-genoobie: OK ... where are you at with it right now? Were you testing something?02:38
genoobieTJ-, this is the last 750 lines of syslog http://paste.ubuntu.com/7845185/02:38
TJ-Bashing-om: for BrandonC?02:38
Lost_xdone, restarting.....02:38
Bashing-omBrandonC: Id GParted still thrashing about ?02:38
genoobieyes, I had temporarily commented out the ath5k options line02:38
Bashing-omis/id*02:38
genoobiethis last boot was with that line included02:38
genoobiestill no wireless02:39
BrandonCya cant cancel it02:39
Lost_xObrienDave: we will use the 64bit copy of the ubuntu 14.04lts02:39
genoobiestill no wireless but nothing is blocked02:39
TJ-genoobie: the good news is, wpa_supplicant (controlled by Network Manager) is trying to scan but like us manually not seeing any results02:39
ObrienDaveLost_x, yes, good. how's Win7 install going?02:39
TJ-genoobie: is the ath5k option "no_hw_rfkill_switch=1" still set?02:40
Lost_xObrienDave: completing the window setup....02:40
ObrienDaveLost_x, cool, please test install before attempting Ubuntu02:40
genoobieTJ-, yes and nowhcrypt=102:41
TJ-genoobie: I'd like you to do a test reboot with that removed... and as the system is starting (before Linux gets going if you can) try enabling/disabling the hardware RF Kill switch and if there is an LED associated with that, see if it goes on/off whatever... We want the LED 'on' (if there is one) :)02:41
TJ-genoobie: so "no_hw_rfkill_switch=0" or remove it :)02:42
Lost_xObrienDave: window is now restarting ...02:42
mojtabaHi, I have migrated recently to Ubuntu. Do you know how can I import my .pst files from outlook to thunderbird?02:42
genoobieTJ-, the switch isn't responsive I've noticed02:43
Lost_xObrienDave: done....02:43
ObrienDaveLost_x, great, make sure Win7 boots properly02:43
genoobieTJ-, the switch is mostly "blue"02:43
BrandonChow do i make this stip?02:43
Bashing-omBrandonC: A thought, when you fired up GParted was there a key icon alongside the partitons for extended and/or swap ? such that the operating system has a lock on the hard drive ? -- what results with key combo ctl+c, to try and get out of GParted ?02:43
BrandonCstop?02:43
genoobieevery now and then it flashes orange02:43
genoobierandomly02:43
BrandonCno02:43
genoobieTJ-, when I modprobe it also flashes orange02:43
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BrandonCcntrl c nothing02:44
genoobieTJ-, so I will comment out that line and modprobe -r ath5k modprobe ath5k, or reboot?02:44
TJ-genoobie: Does it continue flashing then... pulsing every so often?02:44
genoobieTJ-, what I am I looking to do in the reboot?02:44
genoobieyes02:44
genoobieno02:44
genoobiewell, it's mostly a steady blue02:44
genoobieevery now and then a rare flash02:44
Bashing-omBrandonC: Do not see what harm it can be at this stage to "hard" power off the system .. when all else fails, there is alway 'dd' to wipe that hard drive and begin anew .....02:45
TJ-genoobie: change the setting to =0 so when it loads it doesn't mess with the rfkill... when the system is booting try toggling the hardware RF kill switch a few times to learn what if anything, it might do differently than it is doing now02:45
Lost_xObrienDave: i restarted twice and it doing fine...02:45
TJ-genoobie: That constant blue would be interpreted as 'on' and the flash a 'scan' I'd have thought02:45
codezombis anyone aware of a way to have apt use only a small list of specific mirrors? I would like to provide a list of ec2 mirrors, and have ubuntu use the closest one depending on the current region. This is on 14.04.02:45
awesomess3mojtaba, you may want to look into pst-utils & readpst packages02:46
genoobiewhen I'm not typing anything02:46
genoobieit seems to be a stead blue02:46
mojtabaawesomess3: Is it a command?02:46
ObrienDaveLost_x, good, now, boot the Ubuntu DVD and let me know when you get to the where to install screen02:46
genoobiebut like I said, it seems kind of randome02:46
Lost_xObrienDave: ok02:46
genoobieso I will comment out that line, reboot and push the switch a few time02:46
TJ-genoobie: This is almost as if the antenna has become disconnected... what make/model is the laptop and, do you know if the Atheros card is in an easily accessible bay on the underside... at this stage it is very worth checking the antenna leads haven't become dislodged02:46
noideapatrick-: sorry i can not help you with that one02:47
genoobieTJ-, already checked it02:47
TJ-genoobie: Woooo! nice one :)02:47
patrick-noidea, heh ok02:47
Bashing-omLost_x: OK, and the ubuntu liveDVD passes " check disk for defects " -> we ready to proceed ??02:47
TJ-genoobie: how many antennas is the adapter connected to, 2?02:47
genoobieso TJ- by hitting that switch, there will be a log generated, that's what you are after?02:47
ObrienDaveLost_x, ^^^ check disk for defects, thanks Bashing-om02:48
genoobieTJ-, yes, two antenna02:48
awesomess3mojtaba, those packages provide commands to use to convert pst to a thunderbird compatible format (mbox or whatever)02:48
patrick-noidea, have you seen zoosk though?02:48
mojtabaawesomess3: thanks02:48
genoobieI can double check to make sure they are connected correctly...02:48
TJ-BrandonB: Bashing-om: If gparted seems to be taking a while... have you used a terminal to check /var/log/kern.log for disk I/O errors?02:48
awesomess3mojtaba, sudo apt-get install pst-utils readpst02:48
genoobieit's also possible the card is fried?02:48
genoobiebut it was working a few days ago with winxp02:48
awesomess3mojtaba, dpkg -L pst-utils #give the commands that are available in that installed package.02:49
noideapatrick-: I know nothing about it.02:49
genoobieso that's not likely, let me comment out and reboot02:49
genoobiebrb02:49
patrick-ok02:49
Bashing-omTJ-: No I had not thought so ... BrandonC ^^^ !02:49
genoobiejust putting a # in front is ok for now, right?02:49
TJ-genoobie: it is worth checking the antennas yes... and look very closely at the antenna coaxial leads for signs of pinches, damage, anything... I'd say with everything else you've observed the card would show other signs of malfunction if it were fried... but if you have another of the same type of card you could swap in, as a simple test, that would also prove the antennas are good (or not)02:50
daftykinsmojtaba: you can also use Outlook on Windows to convert PSTs to other formats that Thunderbird could import.02:50
genoobieTJ-, oh, I can do that...02:50
genoobielet me double check that02:50
genoobieshould I do the test first?02:50
TJ-genoobie: At this stage I think we have to prove that card works...its worth trying it in another laptop, too02:50
BrandonCso boot back into live?02:50
genoobieokay02:50
patrick-noidea, ok here is a question02:51
genoobiebbiafm02:51
TJ-genoobie: Up to you... I don't think the reboot watch-the-LEDs will be terrribly fruitful though... clutching at straw morelike :)02:51
genoobieokay, so I have a broadcom card02:51
genoobiein my other hp laptop02:51
patrick-noidea, my friend has a site on networksolutions and..it appears that his web server has a malware or riskware?02:51
genoobieI can take that one out and put it in this compaq02:51
patrick-i heard that linux or unix servers can also get malware or riskware true?02:51
genoobiethat will take a few min.02:51
TJ-genoobie: maybe swap them over? that'd prove the antennas and the cards02:51
patrick-his site is getting all ads inside his main page get it?02:52
TJ-genoobie: that's fine... I need a coffee my brain is aching :)02:52
patrick-its like these other pages are in his main page02:52
patrick-when you move your mouse around the page02:52
genoobieTJ-, okay02:52
genoobielet me try that first02:52
Lost_xObrienDave: im using the 64bit installer of ubuntu and there's this GNU GRUB version 2.02^beta2-9 menu with 4 options 1,. try ubuntu without installing 2. Install Ubunto 3. oem install for manufacturer and 4. check kdisc for defects02:52
OerHekspatrick-, depends on the dns service, free dns service add free adds02:52
patrick-noidea, and i found the program malware bytes , which says it has a linux version also or nod3202:53
patrick-eset nod3202:53
ObrienDaveLost_x, #4 for now02:53
Bashing-omBrandonC: Yeah, only way we going to get this done is from the liveDVD .. make sure in upper right corner that 'sda' is the working with drive, no key icons visable in the work pane, Best of my poor memory .. in the task bar select device -> new -> msdos -> apply from the actions drop down ( task bar) ..see what results.02:54
sydneyWhen will ubuntu 14.04 be upgraded to 14.04.1?02:54
ObrienDavesydney, do a dist-upgrade, it should install02:54
Bashing-omsydney: Lat I was aware 14.04.1 is due out July 24 .02:55
sydneyTommorow,cool!!02:55
TJ-Bashing-om: I'm following along with a tail on the log as long as there's "BrandonC" in the output02:55
sydneyAnd the ISO's will be updated too?02:55
Bashing-omTJ-: Thanks .. takes a load off .. BrandonC ^^.02:56
patrick-anyone?02:56
linuxquit02:57
mojtabadaftykins: like what?02:57
lix-64alguien que hables español?02:57
daftykinsmojtaba: depends on Outlook version02:58
BrandonClives up02:59
BrandonCtj- Bashing-om lives up03:00
Lost_xObrienDave: its done, whats next?03:01
tiblockHi. I want upgrade 12.04 desktop to 14, first i did update+upgrade he upgraded 149 packets (it was long time since last upgrde) do i need reboot PC or i can do dist-upgrade without reboot? (yes i know dist-upgrade can bring tons of problems)03:02
mojtabadaftykins: It is 201203:03
mojtabadaftykins: or 201003:03
daftykinsthere is no such office as 201203:03
Jeffrey_fquestion on rsyslog: If I install onto a desktop and set up my laptop to report to the desktop, how would the laptop behave when it is off premises and unable to contact the syslog server??03:03
mojtabadaftykins: Yes, it is 201003:03
daftykinsmojtaba: ok, you're welcome to go and explore the options, this is not MS Outlook help i'm afraid :)03:04
Bashing-omBrandonC: Fier up GParted, sda selected from the upper right, no key icons in the wirk pane !03:04
daftykinsmojtaba: also a tip, delete your junk email and deleted items in Outlook - then compress your PSTs before attempting to do anything with them03:04
Bashing-omwirk/work*03:04
grobe0batiblock, it never hurts to reboot. also, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/QuantalUpgrades03:04
mojtabadaftykins: ok, thanks03:05
ObrienDaveLost_x, let's go for #1 try without installing03:05
tiblockgrobe0ba, thank you03:05
grobe0badon't just do a dist-upgrade. use do-release-upgrade03:05
genoobieTJ-, hey03:05
genoobieunsupported hardward, please remove03:05
BrandonCBashing-om, i have /dev/sda03:05
grobe0batiblock, seriously, don't just use dist-upgrade. do-release-upgrade should eventually get you where you need to be, but in a safer manner03:05
genoobieTJ-, i am going to try that atheros card in the laptop that works03:05
genoobiebbiam03:06
Bashing-omBrandonC: From the task bar what is in the drop down from the 'devices' tab ?03:06
BrandonCBashing-om,  i have unallocated, /dev/sda2 with key, and /dev/sda5 with key03:06
BrandonCcreate partition table, attempt data rescue03:07
Bashing-omBrandonC: Right click on the swap partition, and choose "swap off " .03:07
tiblockgrobe0ba, do-release-upgrade  will upgrade to 12.10 first?03:07
BrandonCBashing-om, done03:07
grobe0batiblock, not sure. i think it'll take you straight to the latest03:07
grobe0babut i could be wrong03:08
grobe0baeven if it does, it's safer to do it in steps03:08
Bashing-omBrandonC: Now what from the devices tab drop down ?03:08
grobe0bainstead of one giant leap03:08
grobe0banever dist-upgrade03:08
g146m026is check disk space wake up hdd ? i want to add disk space in my conky script but dont want to wake up hdd all the time03:08
ObrienDaveE: Invalid operation do-release-upgrade03:08
grobe0bai've lost more debian based systems to dist-upgrade than anything else03:08
tiblockgrobe0ba, your URL says about 12.04->12.10 do i need first upgrade to 12.10?03:08
BrandonCBashing-om, same03:08
grobe0baObrienDave, it's not an apt command03:08
grobe0batiblock, i know, read what i just said03:08
grobe0balike all 5 lines of it03:08
grobe0baObrienDave, try reading the url i posted03:09
daftykinsgrobe0ba: dist-upgrade doesn't do what you seem to think it does :)03:09
grobe0badaftykins, yes it does03:09
grobe0bait breaks things when you make giant version leaps03:09
grobe0bai am well aware of what it does03:09
grobe0bawhat it's intended to do03:09
daftykinsit sounded like you were claiming it upgrades version03:09
Bashing-omBrandonC: same ? .. sda5 is the swap, should, I expect, be able to right click and "swap off" .03:09
grobe0baand what actually tends to happen when you skip 5 releases03:09
grobe0badaftykins, not unless you change the repos to reflect it03:10
grobe0bai'm going to sleep before i yell at someone03:10
daftykinsyeah so in and of itself it's not actually a problem03:10
BrandonCBashing-om, did that before03:10
daftykinsgrobe0ba: calm down there! :)03:10
BrandonCi only have unallocated, extended, and linux-swap03:10
grobe0balike i said, i'm going the fuck to sleep03:10
Jeffrey_fquestion on rsyslog: If I install onto a desktop and set up my laptop to report to the desktop, how would the laptop behave when it is off premises and unable to contact the syslog server??03:11
Bashing-omBrandonC: OK, so now we want a new partition table .. from the task bar best I recall is 'devices' click on devices -> new ? yes ???03:11
Lost_xObrienDave: im in03:11
legendhi03:12
tiblockgrobe0ba, thank you, but i still dont understand what your URL means. Should i first google how to 12.04->12.10 and only then do-release-upgrade?03:12
grobe0bayelling generally entails capslock03:12
grobe0bai merely spoke.03:12
BrandonCunder partition in menue is new, delte resize/move, copy, format to..03:12
grobe0batiblock, speak to someone who likes ubuntu03:12
BrandonCbut new is greyed out03:12
grobe0bai use freebsd for a reason03:12
grobe0badeuces all03:12
ObrienDaveLost_x, cool, now go for the install icon03:12
tiblocklel03:12
TJ-BrandonC: Bashing-om Now would be a good time to open a terminal and run a tail on kern.log ... "sudo tail -f /var/log/kern.log" and keep an eye on it for any hint of I/O errors whilst gparted is working03:12
BrandonCoh if i select unallocated i can do partition ->new03:12
daftykinstiblock: what version are you on and what are you trying to do?03:12
tiblockdaftykins, im on 12.04 desktop and i want 1403:13
daftykinstiblock: ok, wait for 14.04.1's release then you can upgrade direct. you'll be offered it via software update / update manager03:13
tiblockdaftykins, oh, its still not released? Okay then, thank you03:14
Bashing-omBrandonC: Let's us do as TJ- advises and get a running readout of what is going on .. // Now .. is the entire hard drive "unallocated space " ??.03:14
daftykinstiblock: seems it's supposed to be around today, but no idea what timezone :)03:14
tiblockdaftykins, okay, thank you03:15
daftykinsno problem03:15
Lost_xObrienDave: im in the installation type. the options are "erase disc and install ubuntu and something else03:17
ObrienDavedamn03:17
ObrienDaveBashing-om, Lost_x has no "alongside" option again03:18
Bashing-omLost_x: ObrienDave yeah,, so I sen I seen ... Now thgat do not make sense .. that option "should" now be there ! ..think'n !03:18
Lost_xBashing-om: installed win7 in the whole drive. no partitions created.03:19
noideapatrick-: if you know it is malware then i would asume it would work03:19
ObrienDaveLost_x, you should have the same 2 you had last night, the 100MB recovery partition and the remaining drive03:20
cappicardgood evening. how do I disable usb tethering when I plug in my iphone 5s into 14.04?03:21
Lost_xObrienDave: yes03:21
ObrienDaveLost_x, let's go for "something else" and see what you have for partitions03:21
Bashing-omLost_x: That is correct .. in the ubuntu install, ubuntu's installer would take care of setting up it's own partitions ... maybe, is windows taking up the 4 primary partitions now ? -> liveDVD -> fdisk -lu < - .. what does that tell us ?03:21
aminee!log03:21
ubottuOfficial channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too.03:21
Lost_xBashing-om: i notice the "install alongside windows" option appears when there's a partitions found.03:21
BrandonCsigh i think something froze03:22
Bashing-omBrandonC: Is the tail on the log file running ?03:22
ObrienDaveLost_x, have you tried "something else" yet?03:23
BrandonCBashing-om, i cant even move mouse03:24
Lost_xObrienDave:  uploading image03:24
ObrienDavecool03:24
mnathanihow would I create a software RAID from 3x3tb drives to make a 9tb volume?03:24
Bashing-omLost_x: Kinda lost me there ... "option appears when there's a partitions found" .. I would expect it to be as soon as the installer fires up.03:24
ObrienDaveLost_x, agreeing with Bashing-om you should have that option03:25
Lost_xObrienDave:  last time i successfully installed ubuntu, got grub problem when booting to win703:25
Lost_xhere's the image http://ibin.co/1UNUev4vMg7a03:26
ObrienDaveLost_x, probably because of the UEFI mobo03:27
patrick-noidea, and i found the program malware bytes , which says it has a linux version also or nod3203:27
inanepenguinHey guys, not sure if this is the right place to ask but I ran into an issue after installing 14.04 on my machine… Downloaded 14.04, made an install usb drive, partitioned my SSD and installed. Now when I boot to my windows partition, none of my usb devices are recognized/give input. my mouse, keyboard, etc, are all useles....03:27
patrick-eset nod3203:27
patrick-i heard that linux or unix servers can also get malware or riskware true?03:27
patrick-noidea, my friend has a site on networksolutions and..it appears that his web server has a malware or riskware?03:27
patrick-im asking this again since i didnt get a reply earlier03:28
Bashing-omBrandonC: If froze up .. let's try and back out .. key combo ( twisted fingers) ctl+alt r s e i r b ---- slowly .. see if the system reboots .. now we need to verify that liveDVD. when it reboots, shift key soon as bios screen clears -> language screen, escape key to accept default -> boot options screen -> " check disk for defects" .03:28
patrick-anyone?03:28
noideapatrick-: yes true, if you know it is malware using malwarebytes may be a good solution03:28
inanepenguinHas anyone seen an issue like this? Where devices stop working on Win7 after installing ubuntu….03:29
patrick-im askng can linux servers also get mallware or riskware?03:29
BrandonCBashing-om, shift worked. language03:29
noideapatrick-: yes03:29
patrick-ok03:29
patrick-so his webhosts admin is stupid03:30
patrick-noidea, cause the sys admin hasnt fixed it yet03:30
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BrandonCBashing-om, test diskc for defects?03:30
patrick-and its networksolutions03:30
patrick-a popular site right?03:30
noideapatrick-: if problem could also be more complicated that a piece of malware03:30
patrick-oh03:31
gartralanyone here running with a Gobi-2000 3g modem? I really need some help here..03:31
ObrienDaveLost_x, ok, you up to doing this manually?03:31
Jeffrey_fpatrick-: The short answer is YES.  The long answer is:  You would REALLY need to put forth a pretty good amount of effort to get malware or virii into a linux install.  Also, IF you succeeded in doing  so, the only likely victim would be your home folder as your own user ID usually has no access to any other part of the system03:31
patrick-here is what happened my laptop had malware and i heard this riskware can go to another machine03:31
patrick-and thats what hapepned03:31
patrick-cause i know his site and after i got malware hs site messed up like that03:31
Bashing-omBrandonC: Yeah, run that option .. let's insure that the liveDVD is good !03:31
patrick-so....03:31
noideapatrick-: and how is this known?03:32
ObrienDaveLost_x, coffee, brb03:32
linux_farsighthello03:32
Jeffrey_fpatrick-: Also, downloading packages from OTHER THAN the repositories can put harmful software onto your machine and depending on the questions asked of the software on install, if you gave the software the sudo/root password, then you stand the chance of a system wide "infection"03:33
patrick-yeah03:33
patrick-its actually was riskware03:34
patrick-but with malwarebytes i was able to remove it03:34
usr13riskware?03:34
patrick-yea03:34
Lost_xObrienDave: ok, im out for lunch.....03:34
patrick-that apparently affected my friends website03:34
usr13malwarebytes?03:34
patrick-i had up on my browser03:34
ObrienDaveLost_x, ok, see ya when you get back03:35
usr13patrick-: Do you have a question about Ubuntu?03:35
patrick-http://www.armenianhighland.com03:35
patrick-click below those 2 links03:35
patrick-move your mouse there03:35
patrick-in the brown space03:35
usr13patrick-: The topic for this channel is Ubuntu03:35
Jeffrey_fpatrick-:  like I said, you need to put forth a bit of effort to get  an infection.  If it was just your browser, you can kill your profile folder in for firefox or what ever and next start it will creat a new profile folder03:36
patrick-usr13, ok03:36
patrick-sorry03:36
TJ-BrandonC Bashing-om faulty DRAM module possible too?03:36
gartralanyone here running with a Gobi-2000 3g modem? I really need some help here.. Ubuntu 14.0403:36
ObrienDavegartral, no, what it the issue?03:37
ObrienDave*is03:37
genoobieTJ-, well03:38
genoobieI swapped a couple of card03:38
Bashing-omTJ-: Presently anything is possible, bout to the point to reboot, and take detailed notes on the procedure to obtain a new partition table ( other box is down, so gotta boot this one ) .03:38
genoobiecards03:38
genoobieeach time, computer stopped booting with an unsupported hardware message03:39
TJ-genoobie: I saw that one of the laptops is locked to its WiFi card :(03:39
genoobieall three were03:39
TJ-genoobie: Sometimes I really despise the proprietary lock-in03:39
genoobieno way to really test them03:39
genoobieI did push the rfkill switch a few times at boot03:39
genoobienothing really revealing happened03:40
BrandonCBashing-om, no errors found03:40
genoobieI can check the dmesg03:40
BrandonCi can try other ram03:40
TJ-genoobie: I think we need to take a break from it, do some thinking... if it is possible to test that Atheros card in another person's laptop that isn't locked to its adapters, that'd be my goal03:40
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genoobiethere's that madwifi bracnh03:40
genoobie*branch03:40
TJ-genoobie: I think I have one of those atheros cards lying around... let me go hunt in the bits bin03:41
TJ-genoobie: The driver is working fine, I'm sure of it... you've got a hardware issue there ... that device doesn't even need firmware03:41
TJ-genoobie: ahh no, it has a AR9380 chipset03:43
maddawgquestion... i'm trying to use the rm command to remove a bunch of file types but i need it to look at a directory recursively03:43
gartralObrienDave: gobi-loader hangs indefinately even though it has wwan firmware to load, the card is on, and everything should just work >.<03:43
maddawgfor example i have a directoryu with multiple directories and i need all .jpg ,tbn. .info files removed automatically03:44
maddawgas well as .txt03:44
Bashing-omBrandonC: Lemme see how Lost_x is getting along .. and I reboot and get details from the liveDVD on redoing the disk's partition table.03:44
maddawgbut i need it to also remove them from sub directories and sub-sub-directories etc03:44
genoobieTJ-, by hardware issue you mean a bad card?03:44
genoobieor pinched wire, etc?03:44
maddawgi know you can just do rm -rf *.jpg  to rmeove all jpg files, but what about doing that for all the directories inside a directory03:45
BrandonCBashing-om, k, cd didnt have errors restarted and changing ram03:45
TJ-genoobie: That or bad antennas/connections, yes03:45
genoobiehrm...okay03:45
genoobieso usb wireless?03:45
TJ-genoobie: or the RF kill switch misbehaving in some way03:46
genoobiethat seems so clunk.03:46
genoobieclunky03:46
TJ-genoobie: you ought to be able to pick up a replacement HP part quite cheaply... as long as its the HP I'd think the laptop will accept it03:46
TJ-genoobie: lspci says its the HP AR5BXB6303:47
genoobieyes, that would help in identifying the problem03:47
Bashing-omBrandonC: a memtest from the liveDVD will check the ram for ya ( when in doubt run it overnight !) .// Lost_x is at lunch, so I backing all out here and booting into my liveDVD. be back soonest .03:47
genoobieanyway to software bypass the switch?03:47
genoobielike suppress / etc?03:47
TJ-genoobie: I could not find any reports of issues with that device. The only other remote possibility is that in the HP - like in some Dells - the BIOS has a radio kill function itself03:48
genoobiewell it's possible the switch is acting funny03:48
somsipmaddawg: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7096528/remove-all-of-a-file-type-from-a-directory-and-its-children03:48
TJ-genoobie: the point of hardware switches is to physically stop the radio from transmitting03:48
TJ-genoobie: possible but with the LED activity you reported I think unlikely03:48
genoobieTJ-, so you think the problem is in the card.03:49
gartralare you guys talking about wifi or 3g stuff?03:49
lotuspsychjesome wifi devices have a weird wifi method to disable, then reboot from windows to keep disabled wifi03:49
lotuspsychjelike medion03:49
genoobieI suppose I could install xp and see if it works03:50
genoobiethat would narrow down the problem03:50
TJ-genoobie: Unless you can see it working with a different Linux distro, or Windows, I think that has to be the conclusion. The only other thing, as I said earlier, is the AP is operating only 40MHz wide channels and the card is only listening for 20MHz wide channels03:50
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TJ-genoobie: but if other devices can connect with 802.11g then it can't be that03:50
genoobieSo TJ- to verify that.03:50
genoobieoh right the other laptop connected, same OS, different card / hware03:51
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genoobiehrm...03:51
TJ-genoobie: there's *one* other possibility I didn't think of remote though. The WiFi router could be configured to ignore the MAC address of that card03:51
genoobieno03:51
genoobiedefinitely not that03:51
lotuspsychjegenoobie: so this is a hp with as default Os xp?03:52
genoobievista03:52
TJ-genoobie: the fact the other laptop could see 2 SSIDs rules that out though03:52
genoobieyes03:53
NovartisDear god why!? vi is so unintuitive!03:53
maddawgthanks somsip i will take a look03:54
genoobieLike I said, the only other solution left is to install xp, (real pain though) and if the wireless doesn't work there then I know the hardware is the issue03:54
genoobiewell let me have at it...03:54
pr0metheu5Hi, guys. Whenever I try to wake my computer up from hibernation, I get stuck at a dark screen. I hit CTRL+ALT+F1 and the last thing says "setversion 1.4 failed." Something about permission being denied.03:54
genoobiewell TJ- thank you very much for your patience and help.03:55
TJ-genoobie: you're welcome... let me know the outcome, whatever it is, I'm intrigued and annoyed!03:55
lotuspsychjegenoobie: some brands with wifi+windows enable/disable switch oesnt like ubuntu03:55
genoobieOh wait, there is another option03:55
lotuspsychjei had this with some medion brands03:55
TJ-lotuspsychje: yeah, we considered that, but everything about every test points to everything except actual reception is working03:56
genoobieI could reinstall 11.04 (last known working ubuntu)03:56
daftykinsno you can't, because that's EOL03:56
TJ-genoobie: You could use a 11.04 live ISO03:56
lotuspsychjeTJ-: i also did, those rfkill to see if its software/hardware, but i neve rbeen able to fix03:56
TJ-lotuspsychje: weird isn't it?03:56
genoobieoh, right03:56
genoobielet me do that03:56
TJ-genoobie: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/11.04/03:57
genoobieI think I might even have that disk lying around!03:57
genoobiebrb03:57
lotuspsychjegenoobie: can you check bios if wifi says 'last state'03:57
genoobielotuspsychje, nope03:57
lotuspsychjehmm03:57
genoobiebios is super stripped down03:57
genoobielet me try that 11.04 brb03:58
Dougie187Has anyone ever noticed terrible performance with luks on 14.04?03:58
TJ-Dougie187: no03:58
Dougie187(trying to figure out what the cause is)03:58
lotuspsychje!info luks03:58
ubottuPackage luks does not exist in trusty03:58
Dougie187lotuspsychje: I think it's dmcrypt03:58
lotuspsychje!info dmcrypt03:59
ubottuPackage dmcrypt does not exist in trusty03:59
TJ-Dougie187: have you checked "/var/log/kern.log" ?03:59
pr0metheu5Hi, guys. Whenever I try to wake my computer up from hibernation, I get stuck at a dark screen. I hit CTRL+ALT+F1 and the last thing says "setversion 1.4 failed." Something about permission being denied.03:59
NovartisHow do I break a line in vi?03:59
Dougie187TJ-: let me check.03:59
TJ-lotuspsychje: it's kernel module dm_crypt03:59
lotuspsychjegenoobie: try a tail -f /var/log/syslog and play a bit with your wifi to see errors03:59
TJ-lotuspsychje: we did that, do you want all the pastebin URLs ?04:00
lotuspsychjeTJ-: oh sure ill take a look, you got urls?04:00
Dougie187TJ-: I get a lot of "current rate 17476 is different from the runtime rate 44100" if that means anything04:00
Dougie187but my problem currently is that *everything* causes cpu usage to jump to >100%04:00
Dougie187(on an 8 core machine)04:01
fishcookeri want to restart the box .. is there any option on grub so that i can login on command line only no gui needed?04:01
lotuspsychjefishcooker: whats your end goal?04:02
fishcookerwhat process/apps do you use Dougie187 ?04:02
fishcookerjust command line lotuspsychje ?04:02
TJ-lotuspsychje: yes: "iwlist wlan0 freq" http://pastebin.com/fCxpN53Z  "/var/log/dmesg" http://pastebin.com/bHQGCbbb "lspci -nnvvvk" http://paste.ubuntu.com/7845065/ "fwts aspm" http://paste.ubuntu.com/7845094/ "tail -n 750 /var/log/syslog"  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7845185/  "iwlist wlan0 scan" (from another PC) http://paste.ubuntu.com/7845148/04:02
Dougie187fishcooker: right now, pidgin, chrome, keepass2, and gnome-terminal04:02
genoobiebrb04:02
lotuspsychjefishcooker: install ubuntu server then?04:02
lotuspsychjeTJ-: tnx04:02
TJ-Dougie187: "44100" suggests audio... that's the default CD-audio record rate 44.1kHz04:03
fishcookerthis is a desktop lotuspsychje.. on this case i want to login command line04:03
hikkibHello guys! Does anyone know how to connect to a l2tp ipsec vpn in ubuntu 14.04? Something with a gui would be much appreciated04:03
TJ-lotuspsychje: The kernel module is "ath5k" and "/etc/modprobe.d/ath5k.conf" contains "options ath5k nohwcrypt=1 no_rf_kill_switch=0" (we tried that with =1, too)04:03
fishcookerplease use htop for interative process monitor, Dougie18704:03
Dougie187TJ-: Ah ok. Thanks.04:03
ObrienDavegartral, sorry, i did not see your response. i would try getting the firmware updated first before trying to fix the other issue04:03
TJ-Dougie187: have you got a run-away audio process, or ALSA issue, maybe?04:04
lotuspsychjeTJ-: ubuntu version was trusty?04:04
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TJ-lotuspsychje: Yes, dmesg says "Ubuntu 3.13.0-32.57-generic"04:04
lotuspsychjefishcooker: im using 'quiet splash' off but that will bring you to gui login also04:05
lotuspsychjeTJ-: how about atheros firmware update?04:05
fishcookerwith htop you can see what apps that use your cpu most, Dougie18704:05
Dougie187Yeah, I was using top before. But I'll check htop and see whats up04:05
TJ-lotuspsychje: originally there was no "wlan0" at all... adding ath5k options fixed that. That atheros card requires no firmware blobs04:05
lotuspsychjeTJ-: some atheros cards can do crazy things04:06
Dougie187looks like I get a ton of usage from oneconf-service and some apt-update thing04:06
TJ-lotuspsychje: Yeah... I did some cross checking on the HP sub-model as well as the Atheros PCI ID, could find nothing vaguely similar in terms of problem reports04:06
lotuspsychjeTJ-: and the wifi did what exactly as error?04:07
TJ-lotuspsychje: no error... but "iwlist wlan0 scan" simply does not see the two APs within range. The user's own AP is on channel 2, other 802.11g devices can connect04:07
lotuspsychjeTJ-: maybe worth to test WEP instead of WPA?04:08
TJ-lotuspsychje: we spent some time chasing down the RF kill side to ensure the card was enabled. The LED on the laptop is lit blue when the hardware switch is in the on position, and the LED pulses orange at regular intervals too04:08
lotuspsychjehmm04:09
TJ-lotuspsychje: It doesn't get that far, there is no AP found to try to authenticate against, and the SSID isn't hidden04:09
lotuspsychjeTJ-: thats odd indeed04:09
Bashing-omBrandonC: OK, I am back .. got my sense of direction restored .04:10
lotuspsychjeTJ-: this was a clean install or upgrade?04:10
TJ-lotuspsychje: So far as I'm aware a clean install04:10
BrandonCBashing-om, http://oi59.tinypic.com/2d13fpd.jpg04:12
lotuspsychjeTJ-: NetworkManager[814]: <info> (wlan0): deactivating device (reason 'managed') [2] weird04:12
Bashing-omBrandonC: look'n at your m/2d13fpd.jpg.04:13
TJ-lotuspsychje: Yes, everything looks OK from the Network Manager side....OH HECK!!!!04:13
Bashing-omBrandonC: OK, right click on 'sda5'and choose "swap off" .04:14
lotuspsychjeTJ-: seems like its activating/disactivating randomly what would explain the wifi light on/off04:14
BrandonCk04:14
TJ-lotuspsychje: I just had a realisation... I hope it isn't though! genoobie told me he had created an ad-hoc network by accident... I *wonder* if the card has been put into a different mode and won't come back into managed? I know 'iwconfig' reported it in managed mode... let me search back through my log of our conversations for all the pastebin links, to check04:15
lotuspsychjeTJ-: kk :p04:15
TJ-lotuspsychje: Yes. That is standard NM/wpa_supplicant behaviour... it scans for new networks... but in this case isn't finding any04:15
BrandonCBashing-om, then what?04:16
lotuspsychjeTJ-: never saw one of those neither: ath5k 0000:07:00.0: can't disable ASPM; OS doesn't have ASPM control04:18
genoobieTJ-, you still here?04:18
genoobiein either case I had a puppylinux cd lying around04:18
genoobieand I am wirelessly connected04:19
genoobieI was hoping to glean some info04:19
lix-64alguien que hable español?04:19
Bashing-omNow, make sure that sda is in the upper right corner still ( safty is no accident) .. in the task bar click 'Devide" -> Create Partition Table -> WARNING erase all data blah blah  blah , make sure the default "msdos' is set inthe  "Select New Partition Type:" window ->> apply. Now back to the task bar and choose edit -> Apply All operations -> in the summary window again see what is going to be done and again -> apply .. should now be a done dea04:19
TJ-genoobie: Yes04:19
lotuspsychje!es | lix-6404:19
ubottulix-64: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.04:19
TJ-genoobie: really!? which kernel version? "uname -r"04:19
ObrienDave!es | lix-6404:19
Bashing-omDevide/Device*04:19
ObrienDavelotuspsychje, you're too quick ;P04:20
genoobieTJ- hold a sec04:20
lotuspsychje!cookie | ObrienDave04:20
ubottuObrienDave: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!04:20
TJ-genoobie: that's good news at least :)04:20
genoobie3.0.2504:20
ObrienDavelotuspsychje, ;P04:20
genoobiethat's consistent with what I had in lubuntu 1104:20
lix-64ubottu: gracias04:20
TJ-genoobie: So quite old... I wonder if you've found a bug :)04:21
genoobieyay!04:21
genoobieso now what?04:21
TJ-genoobie: At least you've proved the card is fine :)04:21
genoobiemadwifi?04:21
genoobieyep04:21
BrandonCBashing-om, got when i select msdos and apply gives me only partatitin unallocated, and nothing to aply04:21
genoobieat least that's good to know04:21
genoobiecan I find out which driver is being used?04:22
genoobiehey04:22
genoobieTJ-, do you still have those links?04:23
TJ-genoobie: madwifi was superseded by ath5k04:23
Bashing-omBrandonC: Hummm ... think'n /// Maybe we try and partition that hard drive ?? see what then results ?04:24
genoobienot that this makes a diff, but the chip was identified in puppylinux with [168c:001c]04:24
TJ-genoobie: "sudo lspci -nnkkvvv -s 07:00.0"04:24
TJ-genoobie: Yes, that is the PCI ID of the device... the driver matches that ID to know it matches04:24
genoobieyep ath5k04:25
genoobiemaybe the issue is with cfg80211 or mac8021104:25
genoobiemaybe I'll just use puppylinux04:26
TJ-genoobie: I wonder if you installed the latest mainline kernel into Ubuntu, whether that would work. Ubuntu builds and packages the mainline kernels for just this type of situation04:26
TJ-genoobie: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds04:26
genoobieI think I did that with apt-get upgrade04:26
TJ-genoobie: No, you can't get the latest mainline... by installing a mainline it tells us if the Ubuntu kernel is carrying bugs relative to more recent 'vanilla' kernels04:27
BrandonCBashing-om, create new partition, free space preceding, new size, free space folloing, create as: primary parittion, logical , extended.... file system ext4 label04:27
BrandonCdisk maximum size 3816604:27
genoobieTJ-, can you give me that link again?04:28
TJ-genoobie: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds04:28
genoobieTJ-, not to belabor the point, but what is the basic idea?04:30
genoobieso a more "modern" kernel may have addressed this bug?04:30
genoobieTJ-, how would I look up this bug?04:30
TJ-genoobie: correct, and a kernel that has no Ubuntu-specific patches04:31
Bashing-omBrandonC: Maybe as there was still the extended partiton, and sweap partitions on the disk, GParted would not permit a new table to be made ?? // I Had in mind to let the installer set up partitions on the disk automagically, but Iffen ya want we cn set up the partitions ourselfs .. as in / 8 Gig, /home 30 Gigs, and for swap I thouhgt 2 Gigs as reasonable.04:31
TJ-genoobie: Let's find out if it is one... if there is, I can look at all the kernel commits to the ath5k file between the 2 points to try and identify the patch that would have fixed the issue04:31
genoobieoh, hrm04:31
BrandonCits says 37.27 unallocated04:31
genoobiewell that's definitely out of my leagure at this pint04:32
genoobie*point04:32
TJ-genoobie: I can do it here trivially04:32
ObrienDaveLost_x, rebooting back in a few04:33
Bashing-omBrandonC: 37.27 would be about right as the extended partition containing the swap partition is still extent.04:34
TJ-genoobie: there have only been 12 patches to ath5k since the Ubuntu kernel 3.1304:34
genoobieyes, but the known working kernel is 3.0.2504:35
genoobieand lubuntu 11.04 (don't know which kernel that is but I seem to recall a 3.0.something04:35
BrandonCBashing-om, http://oi62.tinypic.com/rh8h3l.jpg04:35
ObrienDaveLost_x, am back04:36
Bashing-omBrandonC: lookin at .com/rh8h3l.jpg .04:36
WithoutDoctrinehi04:36
Odd0002hello?04:36
t2mknwhile using "sudo apt-get update" i see links starting with "Hit", "Get", "Ign". what these mean ? :-/04:36
genoobieHello04:36
t2mknhi04:37
genoobieSo TJ-, if I am not mistaken, you could suggest that one of these patches killed the driver?04:37
TJ-genoobie: Yes, but first it helps to know if the problem still exists. If it does, we can track back from 3.13 towards 3.0 looking for other causes04:37
WithoutDoctrinesomeone helpme please04:37
genoobieTJ-, what tools are you using to help figure that out?  I'm curious, because once upon a time I wanted to write device drivers.04:38
TJ-genoobie: It is obviously something to do with the kernel version, and we know the thing fails to get any scan results04:38
Odd0002I'm trying to decrease my boot times, so I used bootchart and removed modemmanager and bluez/other bluetooth packages (I don't have either), but for some reason my CPU usage during boot increased (http://imagebin.org/316299 vs http://imagebin.org/316302).  Can anyone tell me why this is?04:38
ObrienDavet2mkn, hit means contact with repo, get means getting updated package list, ign means package list is current or repo is ignored. something like that04:38
TJ-genoobie: "gitlog -n 50  v3.13..HEAD --  drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath5k/" in the Linux kernel tree04:38
socketguruHi all04:38
genoobieoh, I see.04:38
ObrienDave!ask | WithoutDoctrine04:39
ubottuWithoutDoctrine: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience04:39
lotuspsychje!info preload | Odd000204:39
ubottuOdd0002: preload (source: preload): adaptive readahead daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-2 (trusty), package size 34 kB, installed size 135 kB04:39
t2mknObrienDave: got it. thanks. is this "Ign" ok or i need to fix anything?04:40
Odd0002lotuspsychje: does preload only load disk into RAM?  What about that CPU usage you can see in the bootcharts?04:41
Bashing-omBrandonC: 1st partiton suggestion: free space preceeding 1, new size 30,000 , free space following 1 , alighn to Mib (OK) , create as Primary , file system ext4 , label / ....04:41
ObrienDavet2mkn, not to worry, just means package list is current04:41
lotuspsychjeOdd0002: not sure what causes cpu load, check your logs04:42
lotuspsychjeOdd0002: i use quiet splash off for text boot, bit quicker04:42
t2mknObrienDave: ooo ok04:42
socketguruI have installed ubuntu server 14.04 and want to run systemd for init services...is systemd stable enough for this?04:42
BrandonCsuccessful04:43
genoobieI wish I knew how to remove certain patches, etc.04:43
BrandonC7.97 unallocated Bashing-om04:43
Odd0002lotuspsychje: it seems preload is only for apps that run after boot... and anyways I'm limited on RAM (1 GB and lubuntu)... so I'm not sure it'll be useful...04:43
lotuspsychjegenoobie: did you install trusty with cable?04:43
TJ-genoobie: I've just looked at the patch history from 3.0..3.13 and nothing stands out as being a possible cause04:44
genoobieTJ do you think the problem could be specific to lubuntu?04:44
genoobieshould I install ubuntu and then pick LXDE?04:44
TJ-genoobie: next time you boot that laptop into Ubuntu, can you do "iwconfig wlan0" and check it is in mode Managed?04:44
Bashing-omBrandonC: UHH,, !! I messed that one up ... change the label to /home .04:44
TJ-genoobie: No, this is a kernel issue if anything04:44
genoobieTJ-, I could do that04:44
genoobieI could do that now, is there any more info I should get from puppylinux04:45
lotuspsychjeOdd0002: any trick that speeds up would be usefull yes04:45
t2mknproblem installing "iBall AIRWAY 3G 21.0Mbps dongle" can some one help.04:45
genoobielotuspsychje, yes it was with a cable04:45
socketguruhi all, can anyone suggest regarding my problem... I have installed ubuntu server 14.04 and want to run systemd for init services...is systemd stable enough for this? I was using archlinux before and systemd was great.. but now we have to use production server which is ubuntu.....04:45
Bashing-omBrandonC: scratvch that, I was not considering the overhead .. lets make that partition say 28 Gigs ...04:45
lotuspsychjesocketguru: #ubuntu-server04:45
genoobieokay, going to boot into lubuntu04:46
BrandonCBashing-om,  it wont let me have free space preceding and following 104:46
BrandonCBashing-om, its auto populating the other when i change one to 104:46
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Bashing-omBrandonC: Makes sense , but let's back up and start again ...04:48
TJ-BrandonC Bashing-om If I recall correctly, you set 2 out of the 3 of Before, Size, and After... the other is computed04:49
BrandonCya04:49
Bashing-ommake this / partiton as 8 Gigs, set to use as / .04:49
genoobieTJ-, back04:50
genoobieyes, it is "managed"04:50
genoobieokay, it is working now04:50
genoobieWHAATT??04:50
genoobieokay, here's what I "noticed"04:51
genoobieTJ-, you still here?04:51
Odd0002lotuspsychje: what about prelink?  https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Prelink04:51
mnathanihow do I reconfigure grub onto my bios_grub partition on a gpt disk04:51
mnathaniI am running 3 disks in Software Raid 004:51
genoobieTJ-, there's no "bug" because the wireless is working04:52
genoobielotuspsychje, how familiar are you with this stuff?04:52
FreedyTomok..my  microphones are not working04:53
FreedyTomtried frot audio and back audio.. with two different ones04:53
FreedyTomfront*04:53
FreedyTomcould it be a software problem?04:54
BrandonCBashing-om, ok starting over, make an 8gig partition?04:54
ObrienDaveFreedyTom, make sure you don't have them muted first04:54
FreedyTomthey arent' muted04:54
genoobieI spent like 8 hours on a wireless problem that "fixed itself"04:54
genoobiebut I want to know why it works now and didn't before04:54
FreedyTomObrienDave, and it's detected me putting them in04:54
Bashing-omBrandonC: Yeah .. that will be for 'root' (/), and then we make up /home partiton as say 28 Gigs, and then the extended parition, and then the logical swap partition .04:55
ObrienDaveFreedyTom, run alsamixer in a terminal please04:55
FreedyTomyep got it04:56
FreedyTomit has rear-mic04:56
FreedyTomfilled up to two-brs04:56
ObrienDavedo you have any recording software like audacity or audio-recorder?04:57
BrandonCBashing-om,  getting confused, and sleepy04:57
TJ-genoobie: Interesting... I think the card got into a confused state, and the 3.0 boot sorted it out somehow04:58
genoobieTJ-, I booted quite a few times04:58
genoobiebut TJ- since you have some skill04:58
genoobieoh maybe you saw my posts in ##linux04:59
TJ-genoobie: I know, but we know when you booted a 3.0 kernel it worked... and now it continues to work with a 3.13 kernel04:59
genoobiethere's another difference04:59
TJ-genoobie: Yes I just did, was away reading when you were typing04:59
Bashing-omBrandonC: Me too // but I am straight now .. 2 primary partitons, / and /home - extended partiton and within the extended partiton the logical partition /swap.04:59
genoobieSo what do you make of that change?05:00
genoobieI only ask so I can address that in the future.05:00
genoobieif I have to reinstall or fix something05:00
FreedyTomObrienDave, hmm05:00
FreedyTomi installed audio recorder05:00
BrandonCBashing-om, ok so 8gig, 1mib before, rest after?05:00
FreedyTombut nothing is recording05:00
genoobieso when I did rfkill llist all something like 3: phy0: wireless LAN05:00
genoobiethen 2: then 1:05:01
genoobienow finally 0: and it works05:01
genoobiethere seems to be a relationship05:01
TJ-genoobie: see my response to that in ##linux :)05:01
Bashing-omBrandonC: Yep, that will be fine .. when we set up /home we do it then as "free space preceeding" 1 Mib.05:01
genoobieI'l stay in linux05:02
ObrienDaveFreedyTom, ok, sec, please05:03
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FreedyTomno worries05:04
BrandonCBashing-om, 8gig primary partition, ext4?05:06
Bashing-omBrandonC: yes .. for ext4 .05:06
TJ-genoobie_: what now?05:06
noob_saibot_is there a way to erase my windows 7 partition?05:06
cfhowlettnoob_saibot_ live USB, gparted, select and delete win7 partition05:07
noob_saibot_so do i get gparted run it on boot?05:08
cfhowlettnoob_saibot_ boot from Ubuntu USB05:08
noob_saibot_oh05:08
noob_saibot_then run gparted?05:08
cfhowlettnoob_saibot_ yep05:08
BrandonCBashing-om, k done05:09
noob_saibot_I better move all my stuff in this part of the disk now.05:09
ObrienDaveFreedyTom, ok, let's try to run PulseAudio Volume Control05:09
FreedyTomok05:10
Lost_xObrienDave: im here. i just read an installtion guide https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/installation-guide/amd64/ch06s03.html#di-partition maybe we can try installing ubuntu in LVM. i notice that we have problems in space where we can install ubuntu.05:10
FreedyTomObrienDave, i'm in built-in analog stereo.. port: rear-microphone05:10
ObrienDaveFreedyTom, should be in Multimedia menu05:10
dqwe3just a general question. can someone look through your OS like a trojan or virus? maybe through your software? spying?05:10
noob_saibot_yes05:11
ObrienDaveLost_x, wb, we can try a manual install, if you like05:11
cfhowlettdqwe3 of course.  no OS is uncrackable05:11
Bashing-omBrandonC: Next for the /home parttion ... free space preceeding 1 , make the new size as 28,000 , primary , ext4 , label is /home .05:11
FreedyTomObrienDave, i'm on 12.04 so might be slightly different..  i'm on input devices.. it has rear-microphone05:11
FreedyTomit's not muted05:11
noob_saibot_ubuntu is virsus free. right?05:11
dqwe3cfhowlett, how do you know if it is happening with ubuntu?05:11
Lost_xObrienDave: i wouldlike that05:11
Lost_xObrienDave: let's try it05:11
ObrienDaveLost_x, ok, get back to the Gparted program, buckle up and hang on ;P05:12
Lost_xObrienDave: fastening the safety belt...... hehehe05:13
cfhowlettdqwe3 noob_saibot_ I've 2 user account; 1 with sudo privileges, one without.  the low privilege account is for daily use.  I also enabled my firewall.  have yet to see a virus05:13
ObrienDaveFreedyTom, i'm thinking your input volume is turned down or off05:13
noob_saibot_do i have a fire wall on now?05:13
noob_saibot_how can i tell?05:13
Bashing-omLost_x: ObrienDave Caution on LVM ... that is encrption, a layer of compexity that in times of troubles may not be able to overcome !05:13
cfhowlett!uwf | noob_saibot_05:13
cfhowlettnoob_saibot_ firewall is disabled by default05:13
dqwe3cfhowlett, how do i get a firewall?05:13
noob_saibot_how do i turn it on?05:14
ObrienDaveLost_x, is your last pic current to the HD partitions? you hav made no changes to the disk05:14
dqwe3cfhowlett,they can only get through your OS with a virus or your password right?05:14
Lost_xObrienDave: that was as i left05:14
ObrienDaveBashing-om, no LVM, check :)05:15
BrandonCBashing-om, k05:15
ObrienDaveLost_x, ok, do you understand what sda, sda1, sda2 mean?05:15
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Bashing-omBrandonC: Ok .. set up the extended partition .. what is left for free space now ? ..05:16
ObrienDaveLost_x, let me get Gparted running on mine05:17
Lost_xObrienDave: that's the equivalent of windows system partitions05:18
ObrienDaveLost_x, back in 505:18
griloiae rapaziada05:20
grilogostaria de entender que q é isso?05:20
BrandonCBashing-om,  http://oi61.tinypic.com/fe2s74.jpg05:21
griloaguem ai05:21
Bashing-omBrandonC: look'n at om/fe2s74.jpg .05:21
mnathaniHow do I get Grub to work correctly when running a GPT system05:22
mnathaniThe first time I installed, it messed up and installed on MBR05:22
mnathaniI am running software Raid05:23
Bashing-omBrandonC: Let's see if 2 Gigs fits .. free space preceeding 1 , new size 2,000 alighn to 1 Mib , create as extended .05:23
BrandonCBashing-om, its populating the 3rd when i make it extended partition05:24
FreedyTomObrian: yeah ok.. i'll try and play around with that later05:24
ObrienDaveLost_x, yes but more importantly, sda is the 1st physical drive. sdb is the second drive, etc.05:25
ObrienDaveLost_x, sda1 is the 1st partition on 1st drive, sda2 is second partition, etc.05:26
ObrienDaveLost_x, follow so far?05:26
Bashing-omBrandonC: " its populating the 3r " a big enough number we want to make the extended partiton larger ??? .05:26
Lost_xObrienDave: here's the gparted image right now  http://ibin.co/1UO3BUE9WqDy05:26
Lost_xyes05:26
BrandonCBashing-om, i can make preceding 1, size 2163, following 105:27
Bashing-omBrandonC: OK .. that would also be good.05:28
BrandonClable?05:28
adminewbon trusty the software updater says packages are up to date, but then if I run aptitude it's finding things that are upgradable?  both are using the same sources.list so why would they disagree?05:29
Bashing-omBrandonC: ahh.. you can make that label /extended .05:29
BrandonCk05:30
ObrienDaveLost_x, ok, right click on sda2 and hit resize05:30
ObrienDaveLost_x, grab the RIGHT edge and drag to the left about halfway05:30
Bashing-omBrandonC: now for the /swap partion .. use all of the ectened ; create as logical , - no file system as swap has none, and label /swap .05:31
Bashing-omectended/extended *05:31
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BrandonClinux-swap?05:32
Bashing-omBrandonC: Think it best to leave it as /swap --- so the installer recognizes what it is .05:33
BrandonCBashing-om, k05:35
BrandonChttp://oi58.tinypic.com/27wvjnk.jpg Bashing-om05:37
pr0thi I am trying to repair my /boot because it got corrupted during an upgrade I am using boot disk repair and I decrypt my root fs and try to repair but it fails saying it can't because its encrypted, anyone know how to fix this?05:39
Bashing-omBrandonC: OK... I am tired for sure, the next thing is to install, "something else" option .. I would just as soon await a better time to continue, What we have set up,  the installer will change somewhat on the sizes, and a re-confirmation will be required to direct the installer as to what we want . Just as soon tackel this phase in the morrow.05:39
BrandonCBashing-om, i can wait till tomorrow05:39
ObrienDaveLost_x, still with me?05:40
crc32so how do I see the hours on sunclock?05:40
Lost_xObrienDave: yeap05:40
crc32I click on the E and nothing happens.05:40
TJ-pr0t: Is the file-sytem contains "/boot/grub/" encrypted, or is it a separate file-system mounted at "/boot/" ?05:40
ObrienDaveLost_x, let me know when you've done the tasks, please :)05:41
Bashing-omBrandonC: The set up looks doable to me .. one other check .. terminal command -> sudo fdisk -lu <- . see what the numbers are there.05:41
pr0tno, /boot is in the root fs :(05:41
Lost_xObrienDave: im inthe gparted05:41
pr0tit would be nice to change that05:41
pr0tso that its not encrypted05:41
Lost_xseen the image05:41
ObrienDaveLost_x, have you done the sda2 resize yet?05:42
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Lost_xnot yet05:43
TJ-pr0t: You'll need to add "GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y" to "/etc/default/grub" and then do "sudo grub-install /dev/sdX" (where X is the boot drive letter), and then "sudo update-grub" in order for GRUB to be able to boot an encrypted file-system05:43
Guest51369g1988kumar@gmail.com05:43
ObrienDaveLost_x, ok, right click on sda2 and hit resize05:43
Lost_xhow much space we need to allocate?05:43
ObrienDaveLost_x, grab the RIGHT edge arrow and drag to the left about halfway05:43
ObrienDaveLost_x, you can make them however you like, i'm going to try to give you 50-50 Win7 and Ubuntu05:44
TJ-pr0t: To do that, you'll probably need to use a Live ISO in order to create a chroot mount of the encrypted system, to run those commands in05:44
pr0ti get the error Path "/boot/grub is not readable by grub on boot.05:44
crc32Any body ever gotton sunclock to actually display the hours bar?05:44
pr0tya i am in a live cd and uncrypted iut05:44
TJ-pr0t: this script of mine may help you with the chroot setup (it automates it): https://iam.tj/projects/misc/chroot-auto.bash05:45
Lost_xObrienDave: resize/move is disabled05:45
BrandonChttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7845791/ Bashing-om05:45
Lost_xObrienDave: only "unmount" and "manage flags"05:45
TJ-pr0t: however, it may get confused by your encrypted root-filesystem. the steps in the script you can follow manually, though05:45
ObrienDaveLost_x, thought so because of the little lock symbol next to sda2, "unmount"05:46
ObrienDaveLost_x, now, resize should work05:46
ObrienDaveLost_x, make sure you grab the RIGHT edge or else it will take HOURS to move the partition05:47
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Bashing-omBrandonC: Looks good ! .. That should workie ! .. you are now a step above rookie level ( a separate /home is to be prefered ) we will discuss the learning curve related to '/' later.05:48
Lost_xObrienDave: im giving about 276/200mb,05:49
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Lost_xObrienDave: free space preceeding is 005:49
Lost_xObrienDave: proceed to resize/move?05:49
BrandonCBashing-om, / for os, /home for user files, swap so os can use like ram?05:49
ObrienDaveLost_x, you want all free space on the right, yes, resize05:50
ObrienDaveLost_x, at the bottom you'll see pending operations, apply05:50
ObrienDaveLost_x, this should only take a few minutes05:51
Lost_xObrienDave: done, i have aobut 195Gib of unallocated space05:51
ObrienDaveexcellent05:51
ObrienDaveright click the free space and hit "new"05:51
pr0they TJ so I did all that and still i get the error to set cryptodisk-1 in my grub05:51
Lost_xObrienDave: sda2 is now 27005:51
BrandonCBashing-om, well till tomorrow gnight05:51
Lost_xObrienDave: done05:52
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Bashing-omBrandonC: Yepper, you got it .. seperate /home gives ya more options in particular saving data, and working with the file system, fault isolation and restoration in times of troubles ( may they never ever happen, but it can ).05:52
ObrienDavelost, if that's ok with you, all is good so far, if you want more Ubuntu space, now is the time to adjust it05:52
Lost_xObrienDave: it says here - create as "primary partition" and file system is ext405:52
ObrienDaveLost_x,05:53
ObrienDaveLost_x, it should be an extended partition05:53
TJ-pr0t: do you know which partition on the disk is the encrypted? if it were #1 you'd do something like "insmod cryptodisk" and then "cryptomount hd0,msdos1" at which point you should be asked for the pass-phrase. If that succeeds you'd see "slot 0 open" and then you do "insmod normal" then "normal" to get to the GRUB menu05:53
Lost_xObrienDave: and the label is "blank"?05:53
ObrienDavefor now05:53
pr0tsorry TJ I was using a 1 instead of a y, it worked, let me reboot and see if it worked overall05:54
mnathanigrub keeps insisting on installing to the master boot record of my first hard drive05:54
ObrienDaveLost_x, it should also show as sda305:54
mnathanihow do I get it to install in the bios-boot grub partition05:54
thunder新人报道,请问这种聊天室有什么规矩05:54
ObrienDave!cn | thunder05:54
ubottuthunder: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw05:55
Lost_xObrienDave: it show "new partition #1 fifle system - ext405:55
ObrienDaveok, go for it05:55
mnathani!jp | ObrienDave05:55
ubottuObrienDave: 日本語の場合は /join #ubuntu-jp または /join #kubuntu-jp を入力して下さい。05:55
thunderjoin #ubuntu-cn05:55
pr0tTJ so that worked, but now for my grub options only thing I have to boot is *System setup :-/05:56
ObrienDaveLost_x, take a new pic please05:56
Lost_xok05:56
AlecTaylorHi05:56
TJ-pr0t: You mean at the GRUB boot menu?05:57
AlecTaylorCan't boot into Ubuntu, stuck on: "Starting enable remaining boot-time encrypted block devices"05:58
TJ-pr0t: I've never seen "system setup" on a GRUB menu, aside from a live ISO/DVD or similar05:58
Lost_xuploading....05:59
ObrienDavek06:00
pr0tTJ: yes at the grub boot menu06:00
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pr0tfor its setparams 'System setup' fwsetup06:00
Lost_xObrienDave: http://ibin.co/1UOFEw7x5rje06:01
TJ-pr0t: That's the UEFI boot manager option isn't it?06:01
TJ-pr0t: is there some mix-up between UEFI and CSM (legacy) mode boot, or is it UEFI all the way?06:02
ObrienDaveLost_x, looking good so far06:03
Lost_xObrienDave: so, there is where we can create space for "/", "/swap", and "/home"?06:04
ObrienDaveLost_x, you need to apply the pending operations, yes, first things first06:04
AlecTaylorCan't boot into Ubuntu, stuck on: "Starting enable remaining boot-time encrypted block devices" - http://askubuntu.com/q/50188506:04
ObrienDaveLost_x, press green check mark to apply current pending operations06:07
Lost_xObrienDave: ok06:08
ObrienDaveshould only take a few minutes06:08
Lost_xObrienDave: got an error06:09
ObrienDavewhat error?06:09
J12BHi guys an urgent request. I need to low format my HDD, what OS should I put on my bootable USB for this?06:10
Lost_xsending you the image06:10
Bashing-omLost_x: ObrienDave :: now that the Window's partition has been resized, have you ran Windows 'chkdsk' to make sure Windows is happy happy !06:11
ObrienDaveBashing-om, not yet06:11
Lost_xresizing windows is successful but the new partition it got error06:12
ObrienDaveLost_x, delete the new partition and apply06:12
Lost_xhttp://ibin.co/1UOItbgaWRBr06:12
Lost_xdeleting...06:15
ObrienDaveLost_x, let gparted finish, then reboot into Win7 and run chkdsk c: /x      it will have to run after a reboot06:16
adminewbJ12B have you tried spinrite?06:17
Bashing-omObrienDave: Lost_x // think, in the now unallocated space ( after removing "primary partition #1) we want a primary partion for /, and extended partion for logical partitions /home and /swap ???06:18
ObrienDaveBashing-om, yes, do you recommend the chkdsk first?06:18
Bashing-omObrienDave: Lost_x // YES, indeed, let's make sure Windows is Happy at the earliest oportunity.06:19
ObrienDaveBashing-om, was thinking extended for remainder with / /home /swap logical06:19
adminewbJ12B for a security wipe on a hard drive, you want something other than "low level format"06:21
ObrienDaveBashing-om, but if you think seperate partitions for / and /home /swap is better, i agree06:21
J12Badminewb, what would you recommend?06:22
Bashing-omObrienDave: That too, will work .. for some odd reason I am just the more comfortable with '/' as a primary partition when I can ..however, ubuntu will install happily into an extended partition.06:22
adminewbJ12B, I have little experience in that area, just heard some tips somewhere06:23
TJ-J12B: no disks these days support low-level format under user control, that went out with MFM drives I think!06:23
Lost_xBashing-om: ObrienDave, thi is not normal? got this when i shutdown ubuntu... http://ibin.co/1UOMIM0kXBtt06:23
jwaterHi all. How do I define hyper key in my newly installed ubuntu?06:24
jwaterThanks06:24
TJ-J12B:  most modern disks, if you simply want to erase them, you use dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX ... it used to require several passes with different data patterns but modern writing techniques dont' suffer that limitation06:24
pr0metheu5is gnome shell 3.10 available in the software center?06:24
J12BI am looking to completely erase everything from my disk(s), leaving a blanco diskdrive06:25
ObrienDaveLost_x, i don't think it's a problem yet. let's do the Win7 chkdsk first06:26
Beldarpr0metheu5, It is in trusty06:26
J12BI think this should be done thru an bootable OS on usb06:26
Bashing-omLost_x: IO error, maybe Windows will fix it when the check disk routine from above is run ( ??) .06:26
TJ-J12B: correct06:26
pr0metheu5Beldar, I can see 3.8 but not 3.10?06:27
Beldarpr0metheu5, What release ubuntu are you running06:27
Lost_xok06:28
pr0metheu5beldar, 14.04, which is trusty tahr, isn't it?06:28
ObrienDaveLost_x, Bashing-om back in 506:28
Beldarpr0metheu5, I'm in 14.04 I use the shell and it is 3.10.4, do have it installed?06:29
Beldaryou*06:30
J12Bthen here is my question. Which tool(kit) should I use to erase the disk? writing all bits to 006:30
pr0metheu5Beldar, I don't remember if I installed it or not, but I don't think so o_o06:30
Lost_xObrienDave: win is now checking the disk.....06:30
Lost_xObrienDave: restarting.....06:30
pr0metheu5Beldar, can I just do sudo apt-get install gnome-shell?06:31
Lost_xObrienDave: should i do some chkdsk again inside window?06:31
Bashing-omLost_x: Yes, the recommendation is 2X on chkdsk ...06:32
Beldarpr0metheu5, yeah that is the install06:32
adminewbJ12B just about any tool set derived from *nix will include dd, which can read /dev/zero and write your raw hd device06:32
pr0metheu5It says I need the evolution-data-server and gnome-contacts06:33
ObrienDaveLost_x, open CMD run, chkdsk c: /x06:33
Beldarpr0metheu5, And your concern is?06:34
adminewbthere's mention in the system rescue CD of tools wipe and shred if you want more elaborate erasing06:34
ObrienDaveLost_x, it will probably tell you to reboot06:34
pr0metheu5Beldar, it won't install06:34
Beldarpr0metheu5, Is this a stock 14.04 canonical ubuntu?06:34
pr0metheu5Oh, it's Xubuntu!06:35
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Beldarpr0metheu5, So what wont install you have to be exact in this info.06:36
adminewbsomeone venture a guess why aptitude would disagree with software updater on whether trusty installation is up to date?06:36
pr0metheu5Beldar, software center says "gnome: Depends: gnome-core (= 1:3.8+4ubuntu3) but 1:3.8+4ubuntu3 is to be installed"06:36
Beldarpr0metheu5, Even better run the gnome-shell install info in the terminal and pastebin the whole thing.06:37
Bashing-omadminewb: staged updates have been implemented .06:37
pr0metheu5Beldar, okay, hold on06:37
adminewbBashing-om, how's that work? aptitude is finding updates for such as: upstart, compiz, nautilus...06:38
Lost_xObrienDave: done checking 2x06:38
pr0metheu5Beldar, http://pastebin.com/XEASXiVZ06:39
ObrienDaveLost_x, reboot into win7 if ok reboot into Ubuntu DVD06:39
Lost_xok06:39
pr0metheu5Beldar, do I need to do apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop?06:40
ObrienDaveLost_x, this time go straight for Install Ubuntu06:40
Beldarpr0metheu5, Now run sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and pastebin it before giving a yes or no to finish.06:40
pr0metheu5Beldar, together? update && dist-upgrade?06:41
ObrienDavesudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade06:41
Bashing-omadminewb: I am not as up to date as I might should be ( I also do command line) .. but the theory is that from the software center, 1st release is 10 % of availabale to all users, if no problems reported, then the next increment is released and so on .. Commnad line does not have these 'restrictions'.06:41
Beldarpr0metheu5 yeah or separately same thing, the key is hold at the end before a yes or no on the install, I see a held broken package warning on your first paste.06:42
pr0metheu5Beldar, ObrienDave; http://pastebin.com/xiSVM50L06:42
adminewbBashing-om thanks06:43
Bashing-omadminewb: : D , I did not read the documentation .. the source is available via ubuntuforum iffen ya want to search it out.06:45
v1roswhat other software could I use other than phpmyadmin Iam running  10.04 LTS with the latest version of APACHE?06:45
Beldarpr0metheu5, Can you identify what this is? http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release06:46
pr0metheu5Beldar, not a clue?06:46
adminewbit would appear then that aptitude offers updates associated with 14.04.1 slightly before official point release06:47
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Bashing-omadminewb: Indications now are, as you are the second I have seen here tonight advising they are seeing 14.04.1 ...06:48
pr0metheu5do I need some ppa, maybe?06:48
ObrienDaveBashing-om, i have 14.04.106:49
Flanneladminewb: 14.04.1 doesn't mean anything to updaters, it's just a roll-up of releases and a chance to update the installation media, etc.06:49
adminewbunderstood06:49
Bashing-omObrienDave: Well ! let me update and see what I come up with ... huh ?06:50
ObrienDaveUbuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l06:50
adminewbthere are base-files changes to consider, too06:50
Beldarpr0metheu5, a ppa no, you have spotify, I'm not sure what it is or does to an install. I would think a stock xubuntu would allow a gnome-shell install is all.06:50
Lost_xrestarted win twice and its ok06:51
ObrienDaveBashing-om, cat /etc/issue06:51
Lost_xbooting to ubuntu now06:51
ObrienDaveLost_x, very good, go for install06:51
lord4163Where is the download for 14.04.1?06:51
ObrienDavelord4163, it's just an upgrade afaik06:52
Bashing-omObrienDave: Do not know when it happened, update/upgrade was 0 0 0 0 ... but lsb_release -a -> Description:    Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS ... welll welll .06:52
ObrienDaveBashing-om, i was surprised as well, mine showed up 2 days ago LOL06:53
lord4163ObrienDave: Yes but I want the newly baked ISO.06:54
ObrienDaveyesterday 08:3206:54
adminewbfind newly baked ISO images at http://www.ubuntu.com/download06:55
JGuichardhi06:55
lord4163adminewb: That's 14.0406:56
lord4163They said 14.04.1 should be available today, not.06:57
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ObrienDavelord4163, that does not necessarily mean a new ISO file06:57
Bashing-omObrienDave: Lost_x // Hey guys, past my witching hour .. I am going to become a pumpkin for a short time and get my beauty rest. I will check progress on my morrow.06:57
ObrienDaveok Bashing-om thanks for all of your help06:58
adminewbhmm so the ISO builders haven't caught up yet06:58
pr0metheu5Beldar, spotify is just a music client07:00
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JGuicharddoes anyone know where Ubuntu was first created??07:00
ObrienDaveLost_x, back in 507:00
Lost_xObrienDave: ok07:01
adminewblord4163 give them another 10 hours for ISOs to propagate through all the mirrors before panicking07:02
Rohan_mI dont know password of my user www-data but i have root access can i get his password or restore password07:02
Beldarpr0metheu5, Yes I looked it up, can't say exactly what the issue is, however adding a 3rd party repos can change the OS, we see a ppa trusty there not sure what that is, there is nothing in my sources list like that, its 3rd party as well.07:02
adminewball the other stuff appears available for general use07:02
allan_hello07:02
v1roshello07:03
Lost_xBashing-om: im in installation type, still no "install alongside windows". i chose "somthing esle". igot sda1 and sda2 in NTFS and a sda3 of no type...07:03
pr0metheu5Beldar, okay, do you think you could also take a look at my /etc/sources.list file?07:03
allan_this is my first time using xchat. looks cool07:03
Beldarpr0metheu5, Just guessing on this however, without all the stuff added or associated to those two additional repos it is hit or miss and not sure I would know if I saw all that.07:04
Lost_xBashing-om: should i proceed to install ubuntu now?07:04
Rohan_mI dont know password of my user www-data but i have root access can i get his password or restore password07:04
pr0metheu5Beldar, is there any gnome 3 related ppa that's supposed to be there by default that I might have accidentally removed?07:04
pr0metheu5Beldar, like gnome3next or something07:04
v1ros<Rohan_m> you can reset the passcode07:04
Rohan_mv1ros: how ?07:05
chrissg@allan_: Try hexchat, it's even cooler :)07:05
Beldarpr0metheu5, PPA's are third party never on a stock install.07:05
Beldaron=in07:05
v1ros<Rohan_m> you using phpmyadmin?07:05
Rohan_mv1ros: o.O php my admin ? How ? well i have PHP my admin on my server07:06
ObrienDaveLost_x, back07:06
v1ros<Rohan_m> well loging and reset the passcode07:06
Lost_xObrienDave: Bashing-om: im in installation type, still no "install alongside windows". i chose "somthing esle". igot sda1 and sda2 in NTFS and a sda3 of no type...07:06
Beldarpr0metheu5, This is beyond my help to be honest.07:07
Rohan_mv1ros: i wat database should i look which table ? n which coloumn ?07:07
pr0metheu5Beldar, okay, thanks a lot for trying07:07
v1ros<Rohan_m> its for a user correct?07:07
antiihi.. recently installed ubuntu server. i'm having a problem with ssh timeouts (never happend with my other distributions).. I can see that TCPKeepAlive is enabled in sshd_config but it doesen't seem to do anything.07:07
Rohan_mv1ros: yes user is  www-data07:07
ObrienDaveLost_x, ok, in sda3 make a new partition of 25G, format and mount as /07:08
v1ros<Rohan_m>  its not for an admin ?07:08
Rohan_mv1ros: no07:08
Beldarv1ros, You can tab complete nicks.07:09
ObrienDaveLost_x, ok, / should have 0 before, 25G and the remainder after07:09
Lost_xObrienDave: new partition table button is disabled....07:10
ObrienDaveunmount07:10
ObrienDaveunmount sda307:10
v1rosif you can login too phpmyadmin  it should be for root and you should have no problems setting up users and previlages etc...07:10
Lost_xObrienDave: no right click07:11
Lost_xObrienDave: only edit partition07:11
ObrienDaveLost_x, ok edit07:12
Lost_xObrienDave: what should i chose?07:12
samuraihi07:13
ObrienDaveLost_x, new pic please07:13
Lost_xok07:13
pr0metheu5Can someone help me figure out why I can't install gnome-shell? Here's a pastebin of the the terminal output http://pastebin.com/XEASXiVZ07:13
samuraihow  install KDE 13.04 please07:13
samuraii ask in this channel07:14
ObrienDavesamurai, 13.04 is EOL not supported07:14
cfhowlettsamurai upgrade to 14.0407:14
cfhowlett!kubuntu | samurai07:15
ubottusamurai: Kubuntu is the Ubuntu flavour using KDE Software and the KDE Plasma Workspaces.  See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support join  #kubuntu - See also !kde07:15
samuraianother version of kde?07:15
cfhowlettsamurai 13.04 is no longer supported - end of life - no security updates.  consider your priorities07:15
lord4163samurai: Get Kubuntu 14.0407:15
v1rosyou can install several shells and choose which one to boot into07:15
samurai for using my desktop? change di icons ecc..??07:16
samuraithe*07:16
Lost_xObrienDave: http://ibin.co/1UOcM18eNjks here the latest image07:17
samuraii install kubuntu thank you, because no xubuntu?07:17
v1ros?07:17
cfhowlett!flavors | samurai07:18
ubottusamurai: !Ubuntu-GNOME, !Kubuntu, !Xubuntu and !Lubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with GNOME, KDE, Xfce, and LXDE (respectively) installed as default, instead of Unity. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, and !Mythbuntu.07:18
ObrienDaveLost_x, ext407:18
Lost_xmount point is?07:19
Lost_xdo i need to check the format this partition?07:19
ObrienDavenone for now07:19
ObrienDavenot yet07:19
ObrienDaveLost_x, apply07:20
Lost_xinstall now?07:21
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Lost_xsda3 type is now ext407:21
Lost_xbut used is "unknown"07:21
ObrienDaveLost_x, ok, now right click sda3 and add new07:21
Lost_xno right click07:22
ObrienDavedang07:22
ObrienDavesec07:23
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ObrienDavedang, i can't remember how to make logical partition07:32
visceraObrienDave: fdisk?07:33
ObrienDaveLost_x, how much RAM do you have?07:33
Lost_x4Gib07:33
ObrienDaveok, let's do this, delete sda3 and apply07:34
ObrienDaveviscera, i'll need help with fdisk07:34
visceraObrienDave: fdisk /dev/sdwhatever07:35
visceraObrienDave: press m to see a menu07:35
Lost_xit is now a free space07:35
ObrienDaveok, new partition in sda3, 0 before, 25GB, remainder after. ext4, mount as /, format07:38
ObrienDaveapply07:38
biomanGood morning07:38
biomanLooking for someone who uses latest compiz 0.9.x, ans having in animation effect roll up window working07:39
lwHi, every body07:39
Lost_xstill the new partition table button is disabled...07:40
ObrienDaveunmount07:40
ObrienDaveLost_x, got it LOL07:44
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biomanLooking for someone who uses latest compiz 0.9.x, ans having in animation effect roll up window working07:47
ObrienDaveLost_x, where are we at with this?07:48
ObrienDaveLost_x, still no new partition button in sda3?07:50
[erk]hackerhello07:50
Tooth_good day07:51
Ridley5hi Tooth_07:51
Lost_xstill no partition button...07:54
okdamnhi!07:54
okdamni downloaded the .iso of ubuntu i would like to install it on macosx partition via usb07:54
okdamndo i need to mount it on usb or just to cpy it into ?07:54
ObrienDaveLost_x, still unallocated?07:54
cfhowlett!mac|okdamn07:55
ubottuokdamn: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages07:55
ObrienDaveokdamn, ISO needs to be burned to DVD or USB, you just can't copy it07:55
Lost_xObrienDave: what i did was, i went back to gparted then i created a new partition for the swap. but the remaining space was unallocated. can not create new partition because it is already four....07:55
Lost_xObrienDave: but i proceed it anyway07:56
okdamnObrienDave:  so i should mount it via disk utility on mac right?07:56
okdamnlike any other os !?07:56
ObrienDaveLost_x, we need to do this in the install "something else"07:56
ObrienDaveokdamn, sorry i know nothing about macs07:57
Lost_xObrienDave: so i got sda1 for the recovery system of windows, sda2 for the windows7, sda3 for the "/" in ext type and sda4 for the swap. though, i still have unallocated space07:57
ObrienDaveLost_x, delete sda407:57
[erk]hackerhttp://cbm.amu.edu.pl/system/files/hacker.jpg07:58
ObrienDaveLost_x, what size is sda3?07:58
biomanLooking for someone who uses latest compiz 0.9.x, ans having in animation effect roll up window working07:59
Lost_x190Gib08:04
ObrienDaveLost_x, delete sda3 and apply08:05
ObrienDaveLost_x, are you in gparted or the "something else" utility?08:06
ObrienDaveLost_x, yes, i know they're the same program but it will matter when we finally get these partitions right08:06
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Lost_xi created the partitions in gparted, cant add new partition in something else ulility08:07
ObrienDaveok, you're in gparted now?08:08
Lost_xwhen i proceed the installation with only the sda3 it wont proceed because there is no swap08:09
star_proneHi all08:11
ObrienDaveit will but since you have 4GB ram you should have a swap08:12
Lost_xi proceeded it anyway just to see it what happens08:12
Lost_xanyway we can go back from start08:12
Lost_xits installing....08:12
ObrienDaveok, let's see what happens08:12
ObrienDaveinstall 3rd party software (fluendo) but not updates for mow08:13
ObrienDave*now08:14
star_proneI'm using Ubuntu 14.04 and I have a problem with skype. The icon isn't shown in taskbar, it is shown only in unity's task bar on the left08:14
star_proneis this the normal behavior? other colleagues who are using an older version of Ubuntu don't have the same problem08:15
kostkonstar_prone, install skype-wrapper to integrate it into the messaging menu  https://launchpad.net/~skype-wrapper/+archive/ppa08:15
star_pronethanks08:15
kostkonstar_prone, after isntalling it, search for "skype" in the dash to access its settings08:17
biomanLooking for someone who uses latest compiz 0.9.x, ans having in animation effect roll up window working08:19
star_pronedo I have to restart unity after installing skype-wrapper?08:20
kostkonstar_prone, no, just restart skype I think08:21
kostkonstar_prone, you can always logout and log back in if you aren't sure08:21
star_pronehmmm.... strange08:21
star_proneain't working08:21
kostkonstar_prone, the skype icon will now appear in the messaging menu not in the tray08:22
kostkonstar_prone, messaging menu -> the envelope icon08:22
star_proneit doesn't appear anywere08:22
star_pronebrb08:22
fidel_hi - shouldnt 14.04.1 be/get released today?08:27
dexitUmm.. is there anyone who can help me with Squid3 3.1.19 ?08:27
DJonesfidel_: I suspect its out, when I connected to my server this morning, I got an update to 14.04 prompt08:27
loctauxphilippefidel_, Yeah! I've tottaly forgoten!08:28
loctauxphilippeDJones, Thanks for the info!08:28
fidel_DJones: thanks08:28
cfhowlettfidel_ today is a 24 hour period ... patience08:28
dexitUmm.. is there anyone who can help me with Squid3 3.1.19 ? -> Meaning it was working till yesterday, after a huge fire and power outtage, it's not letting through http connections and giving me MISS/50308:29
helmut_hi08:30
okdamnsorry , installing via CD ubuntu then i'll be able to update ubuntu version?08:30
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cfhowlettokdamn yes that's how it works08:31
okdamncfhowlett:  great thanks08:31
loctauxphilippedexit, What is Squid ?08:31
okdamncfhowlett:  do i just need to put the .iso on cd?08:31
somsip!info squid | loctauxphilippe08:31
ubottuloctauxphilippe: squid (source: squid3): dependency package from squid to squid3. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.8-1ubuntu6 (trusty), package size 5 kB, installed size 138 kB08:31
dexitloctauxphilippe: squid3 http proxy08:32
cfhowlett!usb|okdamn ubuntu is too large for CD =08:32
ubottuokdamn ubuntu is too large for CD =: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent08:32
loctauxphilippedexit, Sorry I cant help you... ;-(08:32
Lost_xObrienDave: i have an installer crash.... sending report to developers :!08:32
ObrienDaveokdamn, burn ISO to DVD, you can't just copy the file08:32
okdamnObrienDave:  ok great08:32
dexitUmm.. is there anyone who can help me with (http proxy) Squid 3.1.19 ? -> Meaning it was working till yesterday, after a huge fire and power outtage, it's not letting through http connections and giving me MISS/503,08:33
ObrienDaveLost_x, damn, i think i have out partition issue figured out08:33
ObrienDave*our08:33
Lost_xmaybe08:35
ObrienDaveLost_x, shall we try again?08:37
Lost_xwe will try and try until we can perfect it :)08:38
Lost_xbut i don't have more time now....08:38
Lost_xmaybe 2morrow?08:38
ObrienDaveok, tomorrow is the last night until Monday, i work weekend nights08:39
blueingressHi all, I do "sudo badblocks /dev/sda5", it gave me several numbers. does it mean there are many bad blocks on  the disk?08:39
olivier_bKhow can i know who is the channel operator ?08:39
svetlanaolivier_bK, this channel?08:40
olivier_bKno08:40
ObrienDaveLost_x, it is 1:40am Thursday here. how about you?08:40
svetlanaolivier_bK, ok. '/msg chanserv access #channel list'08:40
olivier_bKi going to try thanks men08:40
Lost_xits, 4:41pm thursday here08:41
Lost_xim sending you new pic08:41
ObrienDaveLost_x, where do you live? Oregon, USA here08:41
kevrObrienDave: your last name is OBrien?08:42
ObrienDavekevr, no08:42
kevroh.08:42
bcvery!ot08:42
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!08:42
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kevrindeed08:43
kevr!guidelines08:43
ubottuThe guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines08:43
dexitUmm.. is there anyone who can help me with (http proxy) Squid 3.1.19 ? -> Meaning it was working till yesterday, after a huge fire and power outtage, it's not letting through http connections and giving me MISS/503,08:45
Lost_xObrienDave: Ormoc, Philippines. One of the few places that was hit heavily by Typhoon Haiyan last November 2013...08:45
bzfHi! I'm trying to boot my 14.04-install from my other disk, but grub just gives me an "you need to load a kernel first"-error. Any ideas?08:45
ObrienDaveLost_x, ok, thanks, i'll see you tomorrow08:46
Lost_xyeah. thank also  for the help....08:47
ObrienDavebzf you don't have a kernel on that disk08:47
ObrienDaveLost_x, wish i was not so rusty at the partitions LOL08:47
bzfObrienDave: But if I mount that drive and look in the boot folder, there actually is08:48
biledemonHello. I shouldn't expect any problems running a "superclocked" gfx card on Ubuntu 14.04 right?08:48
Lost_xyou're not.08:48
ObrienDavegrub is not looking there08:48
ObrienDavebzf, grub is not looking there08:49
Lost_xim will be shifting to ubuntu next year08:49
Lost_xjust that all of my applicatons where developed in windows08:49
fenakira /set beep_msg_level MSGS NOTICES DCC DCCMSGS HILIGHT08:49
bzfObrienDave: Hmm okay, I assumed it looked there because the grub.cfg-entry has the line "initrd /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-24-generic"08:49
ObrienDaveLost_x, we'll get this to work08:50
Lost_xthat's why i want to dual boot my new desktop08:50
White_Catcould someone assist me in seting up rsnapshot ?08:50
Lost_xi trust you.....08:50
Lost_xi still have my lappy at home with unallocated space ready for ubunto... :)08:51
ObrienDavebzf, grub also locates that directory by UUID, that's why it can't find your kernel08:51
Lost_xi we can make this desktop running my laptop will be next08:51
ObrienDaveLost_x, it's a deal :)08:51
bzfObrienDave: So even if the UUID is set, it won't be able to find it?08:52
ObrienDavebzf, kind of beyond my knowledge of grub and fstab08:52
ObrienDaveyou need a fstab guru to help you with this08:53
sakokaphow do i run  linux-clicky? its an app that make sounds when pressing keys. it says Run the main.py file and it will automaticly detect your keyboards and start clickytty click. double clicking on main.py just opens a text file.08:56
Ben64sakokap: py is python, so probably "python main.py"08:56
k1lsakokap: start it with python . but that sounds more like a keylogger :)08:57
Ben64sakokap: be very careful running random files from the internet because of yeah that ^08:57
ObrienDavethat would drive me insane after 30 seconds or so LOL08:57
rs14greetings08:58
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sakokapben64 could u tell  me of an alternative for lubuntu then?08:59
guest-GblKzMhello08:59
guest-GblKzMuse xubuntu09:00
Ben64sakokap: i can't imagine the demand for audio files to be played for every keystroke would be above zero09:00
sagexhey09:00
guest-GblKzMhey sagex09:01
brontosaurusrex Ben64 why, i would be cool to simulate old typewriter09:01
sagexis there a channel for ubuntu development09:01
cfhowlett!contribute | sagex09:01
ubottusagex: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu09:01
brontosaurusrexalso nice for learning typing09:01
usr13Touch typing - gtypist  (the best).09:02
guest-GblKzMdoes someone have experience with making my ubuntu to an hotspot?09:02
sakokap:bronto09:03
bcverysagex, #ubuntu-devel from: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList09:03
usr13guest-GblKzM: First, you have to have a wifi card that supports infastructure mode, (most dont).09:03
sagex#ubuntu-devel09:04
sagexthanks09:04
guest-GblKzMok, thanks. it a an onboard..09:04
usr13guest-GblKzM: infastructure mode allows multiple users to connect and stay connected via WiFi.  A better solution is a wireless router that supports dd-wrt (which has hotspot features built in).09:05
usr13guest-GblKzM: (There is another one besides dd-wrt, but can't remember off top of head...)09:06
sakokapbrontosaurusrex and also for people who must type while looking at the keyboard. disabled people, u know. :)09:06
usr13guest-GblKzM: There may be some software that emulates infastructure mode now-days, not sure... just so you know, I'm not really an authority on the subject so... FYI09:07
guest-GblKzMok, thanks for info.. i try :)09:08
karol_s09:10
karol_:D09:10
karol_hi all09:10
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svetlanaHi all. I've read man page of winbindd but I didn't understand what it does. I don't need to share files from my Linux desktop, but I need to resolve names of other Windows computers in the LAN, and read files from them. Do I need winbindd?09:24
* fsdfs on09:30
svetlanafsdfs, hi.09:30
fsdfshey09:30
svetlanafsdfs, how can I help you?09:31
biledemonHello. I shouldn't expect any problems running a "superclocked" gfx card on Ubuntu 14.04 right?09:31
fsdfssvetlana, i'm ok, thanks. no problems09:32
Hanumaanafter installing windows 8.1 grub is gone in 14.04 tried boot-repair (after burning it on a CD) but it just keeps doing doing something but nothing happens how to restore grub in 14.0409:37
dexitUmm.. is there anyone who can help me with (http proxy) Squid 3.1.19 ? -> Meaning it was working till yesterday, after a huge fire and power outtage, it's not letting through http connections and giving me MISS/503,09:39
svetlanacan't help through the entire thing but I suspect that checking logs may be helpful09:40
fidel_mh - upgrading from 12.4 LTS to 14.04.1 broke my grub09:42
fidel_lucky that i used just a silly vm to test - but still unexpected09:43
Rohan_m_where is .ssh of directory of user www-data i'm unable to find it even though i made a connection to localhost09:47
wheatthinrohan, I don't think www-data has /bin/bash as a shell.09:49
ketankulhello all09:49
wheatthinYou can become a member of the group www-data with your username, and then add a sticky for the group on the directory in question.09:53
wheatthinlogin with that username, and upload. It'll upload as www-data group and be read by apache209:53
White_CatCould anyone assist me in seting up rsnapshot? I have a second unformatted drive already. I want to have backups every day at say 23:00 to this drive. It should only keep track of the change so as not to fill the drive quickly.09:58
MonkeyDustWhite_Cat  you can do that with 'rsync -a' in a cronjob09:59
White_Catum okay10:00
White_CatI am fairly new to linux10:00
White_Catcan this be run automatically every day?10:00
bekks!cron | White_Cat10:00
ubottuWhite_Cat: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto10:00
MonkeyDustWhite_Cat  yes, with 0 23 * * * [command]10:00
White_Catit would suto start on boot right?10:01
MonkeyDustWhite_Cat  'suto start'?10:01
White_Catsuto? not sudo?10:02
White_CatI am very new to linux :)10:02
MonkeyDustWhite_Cat  if you want a cron job with as root, use    sudo crontab -e10:02
White_Catso what command would I type to backup the entire drive to the second (backup) drive?10:03
White_Catif something breaks I can restore from it10:04
ikoniaRohan_m_: there is no .ssh directory for www-data10:05
ikoniaRohan_m_: it's not a real user, it doesn't have a valid shell10:05
MonkeyDustWhite_Cat  e.g. :   0 23 * * * rsync -a --delete [source] [destination] <-- rsync removes files from your backup, if they are no longer in the original folder10:05
Rohan_m_ikonia: i gave it shell from /etc/passwd10:05
ikoniaRohan_m_: you should not do that10:06
ikoniaRohan_m_: that is very bad10:06
MonkeyDustWhite_Cat  an entire drive? that's different10:06
Rohan_m_ikonia: yeah lot of ppl told me that so i'm goin to fix it back10:06
ddvWhite_Cat: depends what kind of backup you want to make10:06
ddvWhite_Cat: you could use dd, rsync, tar etc10:06
White_Catwell whats the better practice10:07
White_Catthe drive as one partition for data10:07
gregf_hi. i've installed ubuntu as a guest OS. Full screen mode was working before today as i'd installed the guest os additions10:07
White_CatI just need help setting this bckup10:08
MonkeyDustgregf_  in virtualbox?10:08
White_CatI haave been struggling with this for the past 3 days10:08
gregf_for some reason its switched back again to the small screen after rebooting the vm10:08
gregf_MonkeyDust: yeah10:08
White_CatI dont want to beak something and I dont want to have a backup that doesnt backup well ue to some config issue10:08
gregf_MonkeyDust: is there something i'm missing :/10:09
MonkeyDustgregf_  right-ctrl F switches to full screen, but i have no clue why it switches back10:10
MonkeyDustWhite_Cat  you just want to backup your /home, or more than that?10:11
gregf_MonkeyDust: ctrl-F does'nt seem to work either :/10:11
svetlanaHi I'd like to remove lightdm, but xubuntu-desktop depends on it. Is there another smaller metapackage similar to xubuntu-desktop, which ensures that I don't break the non-gui things?10:12
ddvWhite_Cat: You could do a block level backup10:12
ddvWhite_Cat: It will copy partitions and filesystems also10:12
White_Catokay10:13
White_Catwhat I want to have is a backup I can restore even if I break linux10:13
Ben64svetlana: why remove lightdm?10:13
ddvWhite_Cat: dd if=/dev/yourdrive of=/dev/yourotherdrive bs=1M (keep in mind you will overwrite everything on yourotherdrive, including partitions.)10:13
White_Catfor quick painless recovery10:13
White_Catso that I dont need to recustomise, install etc10:13
svetlanaBen64, I don't need it.10:13
Ben64svetlana: do you know what it does?10:13
svetlanaBen64, yes, I know that it shows the graphical prompt for username and password when I boot. It also switches users.10:14
Ben64svetlana: so then how do you plan to log in10:14
ObrienDavemagic ;P10:14
svetlanaBen64, I don't even need graphical things. I'd like to reduce this install.10:15
Ben64svetlana: then go for it10:15
MonkeyDust!mini | svetlana10:16
ubottusvetlana: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD10:16
svetlanaBen64, while doing so, is there a metapackage (such as "ubuntu-core" or something) which prevents me from accidentally installing essential things (such as networking, package manager)?10:16
Ben64svetlana: no, but you should know what you're removing10:17
svetlanaMonkeyDust, I'm doing this from a system which is already installed. can I run something similar to the "installer" from within an already installed system? If not, then it's not useful (not at this point).10:17
ObrienDaveyou want to NOT install essential things?10:18
svetlanaah. from accidentally UNinstalling10:18
svetlanaBen64, ok, will do10:19
ObrienDaveso, you're looking to reduce the bloatware? remove non-essential items?10:20
svetlanaObrienDave, yes, I don't need a lot of things10:22
Mikerhinoshi all10:25
ObrienDavegreetings and welcome10:25
bezabanI have a very unresponsive VM average load of 2400, it is hardly responsive at all and running mostly any command is causing hangs.  top -> P doesn't reveal anything consuming a lot of CPU10:30
compdocbezaban, kvm?10:30
bezabanthinking disk IO, but this is on a SAN with SAS drives10:30
bezabanesxi10:30
bezabanand san looks fine.  Not sure what I'm asking here, as I have no idea what is causing it10:31
compdocsan meaning the disk access is over a connection?10:32
bezabanstruggling to get dmesg output.  Might have to reboot it10:32
bezabanyeah, separate iscsi network.  Other machines on the same arrays are fine and iops are fine10:32
bezabanit's just a proxy too, but public facing.  I'll check fw10:34
compdocit once ran well?10:35
bezabanyeah, it's been doing fine up until I noticed it in vshpere just now10:35
compdocjust curious, what does the VM do? what OS?10:36
White_Catddv how can I list my existing drives etc?10:37
White_Cat"dd if=/dev/yourdrive of=/dev/yourotherdrive bs=1M" seems to be th command you suggested10:38
White_Catbut wouldnt this overrite everything? I want the backups to maintain a history10:38
White_Catso that I can roll back 2 days if need be10:38
bezabancompdoc: it's an ubuntu proxy10:40
biledemonHello. I shouldn't expect any problems running a "superclocked" gfx card on Ubuntu 14.04 right?10:40
bezabanbut we shouldn't be hitting that amount of load, especially not during summer10:40
bcvery!backup | White_Cat, have you looked at these?10:41
ubottuWhite_Cat, have you looked at these?: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning10:41
compdocWhite_Cat, dont use dd unless you know what youre doing10:41
White_CatI dont know what I am doing10:42
compdocdd can destroy stuff10:42
White_Catbcvery hmm... Looking10:42
White_Catbcvery, I have a second unformatted drive already. I want to have backups every day at say 23:00 to this drive. It should only keep track of the change so as not to fill the drive quickly.10:43
White_CatWich tool would better serve me?10:43
MonkeyDustas of 14.04, I hate Ubuntu and its derivatives as much as I hate Windows, so the latter is free from charge10:46
fidel_MonkeyDust: why since 14.04?10:46
bcvery!info sbackup | White_Cat, try that10:47
ubottuWhite_Cat, try that: sbackup (source: sbackup): Simple Backup Suite for desktop use (core functionality). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.6-0ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 243 kB, installed size 1623 kB10:47
MonkeyDustfidel_  heats up quickly, then shuts down, when i run software manager, or a virtualbox, or an online video (footage about the Ukraine air crash)10:50
White_Catbcvery I use an ubuntu server10:51
White_Catnot desktop10:51
Ben64MonkeyDust: sounds more like a hardware problem10:52
fidel_White_Cat: rsync might be an option as well - just to name it (depends what you want to achive in detail)10:52
MonkeyDustBen64  not in previous releases10:53
Ben64MonkeyDust: ok? still sounds like a hardware problem. could be a bug i guess, but still likely hardware10:54
MonkeyDustBen64  yes, 14.04 is not suitable for my hardware10:55
Ben64then run something lighter, like lubuntu or xubuntu10:55
MonkeyDustBen64  tried, not better10:56
compdocubuntu server with a minimal desktop is great for that10:56
compdocI use Mate10:56
formy84hallo10:56
MonkeyDustcompdoc  that's a creative solution, lemme try that10:56
Ben64MonkeyDust: then its probably a hardware problem10:56
MonkeyDustBen64  yes,n it's a hardware problem on 14.04, not on previous ubuntu releases10:57
Sverdar._.10:57
Ben64maybe the problem got worse10:57
Ben64heat up & shutdown is a hardware issue.10:57
compdocactually, I use Mate because Unity doesnt work with vncserver or xrdp, and not because I use older hardware.10:57
formy84\LIST10:58
MonkeyDustBen64  say hardware once more10:58
formy84\SERVER11:00
formy84\SERVER IRC.OLTREIRC.COM11:00
foodooWill there be an official announcement somewhere when the Ubuntu LTS 14.04.1 point release is available?11:02
Ben64pretty sure 14.04.1 is already out11:02
foodooBen64: Does your /etc/motd say that you are using 14.04.1?11:03
Ben64i'm on 12.04, so no :) but people here have been saying it reports 14.04.1 already11:03
stef_ktrying to upgrade a 12.04.4 server to 14.04.1 but do-release-upgrade states no release found?11:03
ObrienDavei have 14.04.111:03
foodooObrienDave: thanks :)11:04
ObrienDavefoodoo, there is no ISO yet afaik11:04
foodooObrienDave: I'll upgrade via apt.11:05
foodoofrom 12.04.411:05
EbanSoulWas wondering if any one knew of a better program for podcasts then radio tray ?11:06
txdvyou want more userinterface or what/11:06
juniourhi11:06
EbanSoulya the ui and more customization .11:06
txdvwhat customizations do you need?11:07
juniouri have problem wiht rrecord my desktop. i ahve bought logitech webcam c310 and it has micrphone too . i am not able to record audio throught that11:07
juniourhelp me11:07
EbanSoulwanting to be able to do searches from the app for more channels. and would like to have it show up in my notifications .11:07
juniourcheck this http://pastebin.com/tiLtUq4d11:09
EbanSoulThanks11:09
White_Catfidel_ I was told that and rsnapshot11:16
White_CatI am unsure which to use11:16
White_Cat I have a second unformatted drive already. I want to have backups every day at say 23:00 to this drive. It should only keep track of the change so as not to fill the drive quickly.11:17
White_CatI just want to backup my ubuntu server so that i can rollback at will11:17
Symmetriasup all11:22
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BlackZeroyouren?11:39
bazhang!cn | BlackZero11:40
ubottuBlackZero: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw11:40
star_pronewhere can I find the archives of this chat room?11:54
Fuchsstar_prone: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/11:55
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Guest46238ya i know11:56
Guest46238anybody know what type of chat client is this11:57
Guest46238it seems 189011:57
bee_keeperHi, on one ubuntu aws installation i was used to change users with 'su - myuser', for some reason when i do the same now I get only a '$' and no completion in shell.  Any ideas what the problem might be please?11:57
TlanixHelp11:59
TlanixHello11:59
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Fuchsbee_keeper: that user having a wrong login-shell or said login shell being wrongly configured?11:59
TlanixI have an issue with the fun brightness keys on my Acer v5 122p-0643 laptop11:59
Fuchsbee_keeper: first check what shell that is  (either in /etc/passwd  or via echo $SHELL as that user), then check that shells configurations  (e.g. ~/.bashrc  for bash)12:00
star_pronedid anyone tried to install xfce4-notes under ubuntu with Unity as its desktop environment?12:00
TlanixI finally got them working in Ubuntu 14.04 with kernel 3.16rc612:00
TlanixI tried to install catalyst 14.6 beta and now the fn brightness keys stop working properly12:01
TlanixI am successfuly running catalyst 14.6 with kernel 3.16rc612:02
TlanixJust the fn+brightness keys stopped working12:02
TlanixAny idea? Am I stuck using the open source drivers that came with the kernel?12:03
TlanixHello12:04
bazhang!patience | Tlanix12:04
ubottuTlanix: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/12:04
bee_keeperFuchs - perhaps user was created without a shell specified?12:16
bee_keeperFuchs: ok thanks for the pointer.  i'll look into it12:16
Quoexlthis is going to sound stupid, but, here goes, what format do I use to log a windows  7 box on to a visible samba share, I've tried HOST/jd \\host\jd and other sundry attempts12:18
calziferwhen will be 14.04.1 released today?12:18
Quoexljust a few minutes before the download servers screech to a halt12:19
ObrienDavecalzifer, it's supposed to be today, yess12:19
MikerhinosI installed Lubuntu on a soft Raid-0, but now when I try to install another distribution I'm stuck in the step where live session is supposed to display if I want to install on full disk, partition manually etc...If I try a "blkid" in terminal, it waits forever...Gparted searches forever fo disks info too...don't know what to do :s12:19
Symmetriaheh shocking how many ubuntu machines are out there running releases which are no longer supported or even available on the mirrors12:21
Quoexlif it aint broke...12:21
QuoexlI have a dapper samba server12:21
brontosaurusrexSymmetria, probably the release schedule  is shocking12:22
Symmetriahttp://197.155.77.253 <=== if you go there (if you have the vlc plugin installed), every time you see a 404 there, thats a person running an unsupported version12:22
Symmetria(thats a live visualisation of the east african ubuntu mirror servers logs)12:22
Symmetriasomething I been playing with12:23
MikerhinosIn fact I'd want to break my soft Raid to install distribution on single disk, and the other one I'll give it to my son because it's SSD and he has an old 5400rpm12:23
aguitel_14.04.1 is up ?12:23
Symmetriaheh its kinda a cool visualisation, gives you a nice view of whats going on beyond the standard apache logs12:23
pgar23Good morning all, I have installed dhcpd and configured the /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf file with a 192.168.1.XXX/24 scheme but when I type sudo service dhcpd start it says FAILED...any ideas?12:23
fidel_hi - anyone used to apt-cacher-ng? I am running a virtual server here which acts as apt-proxy for all our ubuntu-servers. this works great so far. now i am realizing that apt-cacher-ng might be as well able to serve other distributions. is that true? experiences are welcome12:24
ObrienDaveaguitel_, no ISO yet, afaik12:24
Quoexlpgar23: should that be 192.168.1.0/24?12:24
pgar23Quoexl: yes it is12:25
aguitel_ObrienDave: ok12:25
Quoexlok, thats the extent of my help12:25
pgar23Quoexl: Any ideas as to why the service fails?12:25
Quoexlmy guess is dhcpd.conf is borked somewhere12:26
pgar23ya i figured too, thought I would ask12:26
Quoexlyou did make a copy of the original right?12:26
pgar23Quoexl: the orig was blank, so no...lol12:27
Quoexlblank dhcp.conf?, hrm lemme look12:27
Quoexlpgar23: I just installed dhcpd and it switched to udchpd on me12:30
Quoexlon 14.0412:30
pgar23Quoexl: i am on 14.04 as well, what do u mean it switched up to udhcpd for you?12:31
Quoexlpgar23: go to /etc/default/ and see if there is udhcpd file there12:33
cool_boyHello I downloaded a file which was already in my system so it added (1) ..in its name, name is this "openerp-client-lib-1.1.2(1).tar.gz". now I am not able to rename or move it. I am getting bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('errror12:33
pgar23Quoexl: checking. one sec12:33
pgar23Quoexl: in /etc/default I see ndd and useradd files12:34
Quoexlcool_boy: sudo mv blahblah(1).tar.gz newblah.tar.gz12:34
Quoexlok what apt-get did you do to get dhcp installed?12:35
cool_boyQuoexl: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('12:35
pgar23Quoexl: forgot to mention, I am running CentOS 6.5 not ubuntu. But configuring a dhcp server should be fairly similar between distros...12:35
Quoexlah...not so much12:36
pgar23Quoexl: I used sudo yum install -y dhcpd12:36
brontosaurusrexcool_boy, use quotes "name"12:36
cool_boybrontosaurusrex: it says mv: cannot stat ‘openerp-client-lib-1.1.2(1).tar.gz’: No such file or directory12:38
Quoexlpgar23: do you have an option in yum to install isc-dhcp-server12:38
pgar23Quoexl: checking12:38
brontosaurusrexwhat is your full command-line cool_boy ?12:38
Quoexldhcpd does not exist in the ubuntu world12:38
cool_boybrontosaurusrex: openerp@ubuntu-Aspire-E1-571:~/Downloads$ mv  'openerp-client-lib-1.1.2(1).tar.gz' openerp-client-lib.tar.gz12:39
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brontosaurusrextry: mv  "openerp-client-lib-1.1.2(1).tar.gz" openerp-client-lib.tar.gz12:40
cool_boybrontosaurusrex: error is mv: cannot stat ‘openerp-client-lib-1.1.2(1).tar.gz’: No such file or directory12:40
cool_boybrontosaurusrex: says same mv: cannot stat ‘openerp-client-lib-1.1.2(1).tar.gz’: No such file or directory12:41
Quoexlmaybe mv openerp-cl* newopenerp.tar.gz12:41
pgar23Quoexl: no isc-dhcp-server...only dhcp.i68612:41
pgar23which is already installed an nothing to do12:41
brontosaurusrexmv open (click tab here, add quotes and so on)12:42
Quoexlok, I'm no help, isc-dhcp-server is the ubuntu way12:42
brontosaurusrexbbl12:42
pgar23next step is to configure the dhcpd.conf file in /etc/dhcp/ which has been done with the 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 scheme12:42
pgar23Quoexl: No problem. Thanks for trying!12:42
QuoexlI've never seen a proper installation of dhcpd that didnt populate dhcp.conf with something12:42
iptablepgar23, configuration parameter names yes. package names and locaiton of configs, no.12:42
iptablepgar23, tried ##linux?12:43
Quoexltheyre mean12:43
iptabledepending on the time of day they can be.12:43
pgar23lol iptable I will givve it a try12:43
pgar23thx guys!12:43
cool_boyQuoexl: thanks * worked, brontosaurusrex , TAB doesn`t work ifn '(' is in file name12:43
Quoexllike hitting #debian at bar closing time12:43
QuoexlI use * as much as I can, such as cd ~/Dow* etc12:44
White_CatI am trying to setup backup through rsnapshot. This is my file list in root I believe: http://pastebin.com/PYavr6G412:46
White_Catwhich of these should I not backup?12:46
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cool_boyis it possible to copy output of a command ??12:48
QuoexlWhite_Cat: do you have anything installed in /srv /opt /var?12:48
cool_boyeg I want to copy output of pwd12:48
massimohello12:48
White_CatI am not sure. I just dont want to break linux with this12:48
Quoexlif you aint breakin it you aint using it12:48
White_Catif its empty I dont mind backing it up as I may install stuff there later12:49
White_CatI actually ideally want to backup everything except the backup directory which is the mount of a different drive12:49
White_Cator I perhaps can define that differently12:49
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Quoexlmyself I make a seperate partition for / and /home so if I blow it up I just reinstall and dont format the home partition12:49
White_CatI just need a little help with the config12:50
Quoexland backup the home partition to another box with rsync12:50
White_Catonly have a box with 2 drives12:50
White_Catfor the past 3 days I have been suggested different options rsnapshot seems to be the better bet12:51
White_CatI am badly struggling with something I am told is trivial12:51
bee_keeperFuchs: Yep, no shell was set for that user. i think on some versions, login shell must default to /bin/bash, on others there is no default unless you explicitly set one12:51
Fuchsbee_keeper: odd. Glad to hear you got it resolved, though :)12:52
bee_keeperThanks a lot!12:52
biledemonHello. I shouldn't expect any problems running a "superclocked" gfx card on Ubuntu 14.04 right?12:53
massimoHey I've got a question! Why make two partitions "/ and /home" when I can put all to one "/" ? (I'm new)12:54
Quoexlmassimo: if you bork your installation you go back and reinstall and it gives you the option of NOT formatting your /home partition thus saving your data and giving you a fresh install12:55
compdocmassimo, you can limit the size of /home that way. I always use one large partition12:55
DJonesmassimo: You don't have to, the benefit is that if you have to reinstall, you can reinstall the operating system and just set /home to the 2nd partition without formatting and generally without losing data12:56
Quoexlditto12:56
massimoO.o that's true! <Quoexl>,compdoc> and <DJones>!12:57
massimoNice idea!12:57
QuoexlI started doing that when I was borking dapper daily12:58
Quoexltrying to install everything that said server at one time12:58
White_Catdoes anyone know how to use rsnamshot?12:58
White_Cat##rsnapshot has only one person besides the bot (me)13:00
massimo<Quoexl>: When you sa bork you mean fork?13:00
Quoexlno break13:00
Quoexlbroke break borked13:00
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massimobroken?13:02
QuoexlWhite_Cat: if you check out the switches and make a cron job running diff rsync every hour or so works well13:02
Quoexlmassimo: back then I was seeing just what it took to break linux, every day13:02
Ragnarr|2Cheers13:02
Quoexlso I put my /home in a different partition13:02
Somayai couldn't install ubuntu 14.04  via usb13:04
Somayacan you people help me?13:04
Drecondius!Grub-213:05
Ragnarr|2will help when im home13:05
massimoMonth ago when I didn't use Ubuntu, I made disasters so I had to format all ubuntu's part! Formatting make me stressed but is funny! :D13:05
DrecondiusWhat's the grub channel?13:05
massimoSomaya, use UNETBOOTIN13:05
Somayamassimo: what is that13:06
Somayayou mean when i start my computer i should configure it?13:06
ObrienDaveSomaya, a utility to write ISO to a bootable USB stick13:07
massimoObrienDave, nice frase!13:07
Somayamassimo: i used virtual clone drive13:07
ObrienDaveSomaya, you can't copy ISO to USB or DVD, it must be written as an image to either13:09
SomayaobrienDave:tnx13:09
kulhashi, I am using ubuntu server and fdisk tells me this: "Disk /dev/mapper/inalentejo--vg-root doesn't contain a valid partition table" I already made a boot forcing filesystem check, but I dont know what it did, but the problem was not solved, how can I fix this?13:11
massimoSoamaya, best method is towards USB (Unetbootin) or writing DVD13:11
massimoBy3 By3!13:11
tuurtyretor use Win32DiskImager or Rufus13:12
loctauxphilippeIs Ubuntu 14.04.1 is here?13:12
ObrienDaveSomaya, burning image to DVD is more reliable. a lot of people have success with unetbootin. i am not one of those people LOL13:12
loctauxphilippehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule13:13
DJonesloctauxphilippe: Not yet13:13
loctauxphilippeThanks!13:13
ObrienDaveloctauxphilippe, no ISOs yet, try dist-upgrade13:13
loctauxphilippeI have nothing...13:13
loctauxphilippeI will try tomorow...13:13
ObrienDaveloctauxphilippe, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade13:14
ObrienDaveloctauxphilippe, in terminal, cat /etc/issue13:16
roknrolahello there..any news about 14.04.1 release?13:21
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compdocI just wait until the news happens13:22
ObrienDaveno ISO yet, afaik13:22
axp882hello all, im trying to create a samba share and cant seem to access my files. in mac os x i go to the connect to server and type in smb://ipaddofserver but it wont authenticate. Ive already added another user and set the smb password.13:22
axp882any ideas?13:22
ObrienDaveyou can, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade13:22
jeffreylevesqueanyone familiar with UNetbootin13:23
axp882it says you dont have permission to access this disk, even as a guest user, which is enabled13:23
Quoexlit must be samba thursday or something13:23
roknrolait's not released yet right?13:23
ObrienDavecompdoc, i have 14.04.1 already13:23
ObrienDavegot upgraded tuesday morning13:24
hypnosbhow can i find out 'what provides' ?13:25
skilzIs there something like Reason, Cubase, Fruity Loops for Linux?13:25
axp882when i hit guest it shows me the volumes i can mount and theyre right but when i hit ok it displays a you do not have permission to access this server error13:25
hypnosbI need curl-config13:25
hypnosbskilz, hydrogen13:25
skilzThanks, need to do some stuff for M8313:25
hypnosbnp13:26
hypnosbhttp://www.hydrogen-music.org13:26
skilzIt's just drum sequences?13:26
aguitel_ubuntu boot in uefi mode ?13:27
jeffreylevesqueanyone familiar with UNetbootin?13:27
axp882anyone?13:27
quent1jeffreylevesque, yes13:27
ObrienDavejeffreylevesque, a bit, yes13:27
skilzhypnosb, I'm doing this type of project http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DWQ-sKXuauTY%26list%3DAL94UKMTqg-9BX0296yQejFd4H18rVNM4e&h=aAQEzqzNZ13:27
jeffreylevesqueI created a bootable stick on my macbookPro.  Then on my HP laptop i tried to boot from it.  It recognizes the stick, but doesn't boot from it13:28
ObrienDavejeffreylevesque, does your BIOS allow it to boot?13:29
DJoneshypnosb: Looks like that file is included in "libcurl4-gnutls-dev" in 14.04 (along with a couple of packages having it) http://askubuntu.com/questions/359267/cannot-find-curl-config-in-ubuntu-13-0413:30
jeffreylevesqueObrienDave, it glitches kind of.  It only has "Default" under the big blue dialog box titled "UNetbootin".  It says "Automatic boot in 10 seconds ..."  After 10s, it glitches than counts down again13:30
DJoneshypnosb: libcurl4-gnutls-dev, libcurl4-nss-dev and libcurl4-openssl-dev13:30
ObrienDavejeffreylevesque, then you have a bad transfer to the USB, try again13:31
ObrienDavejeffreylevesque, i suggest burning ISO to DVD, more reliable for me13:32
jeffreylevesqueObrienDave, So, I can use UNetbootin from mac to make a bootable USB, to be used on a non-MAC machine (i.e. windows laptop)?13:33
tuurtyretif Unetbooting not working, Win32DiskImager works perfect, try it13:34
ObrienDavejeffreylevesque, that is the general idea, i can't guarantee it13:37
jeffreylevesqueObrienDave, this is what I have done - https://github.com/jeff1evesque/audio-analyzer/issues/351#issuecomment-5001853813:44
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ObrienDavelooks reasonable, i'm way too tired to follow all of the mac stuff ;))13:48
Akuwhi i want to run minecraft-pi but got  bash: ./minecraft-pi: no se puede ejecutar el fichero binario13:49
star_proneis there a chance to install xfce4-notes on ubuntu 14 using unity?13:51
cfhowlettstar_prone sudo apt-get install xfce4-notes13:51
star_proneain't working13:51
star_prone:((((13:51
star_pronetried three times13:52
AaronCampbellEver since the update to Thunderbird 31 (which I just did yesterday), clicking "reply" on an E-Mail opens an message like normal except that the "To" field is empty instead of populated with the From or Reply-To E-Mail. Is anyone else having the same issue?13:52
star_proneit installed it but it doesn't work13:52
White_Catanyone here familiar with rsnapshot config? :/13:52
cfhowlettstar_prone it's designed for xfce  not for unity.  pretty sure unity has its own notes app13:52
star_proneindeed it's designed for xfce desktop, but it works for cinnamon in mint, which is not xfce13:53
star_proneI thought it might also work for ubuntu13:53
cfhowlettstar_prone a happy accident.13:53
star_proneand yes, unity has it's own notes, but they're not very attractive :)13:53
star_proneand bu default it doesn't13:54
webfoxHey guys!14:02
Akuwhi i want to run minecraft-pi but got  bash: ./minecraft-pi: no se puede ejecutar el fichero binario14:03
webfoxI have a VirtualBox Ubuntu VM which I forgot the username/password. Is there a way to figure that out?14:03
webfoxCould someone help me please?14:03
Akuwhttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword14:04
webfoxAkuw: cool, checking!14:04
skilzHow can I make different channels play?14:06
skilzLike music through speakers adn skype through headphone14:07
feydrmIs .1 on time and going to release today?14:07
cfhowlettfeydrm wait a few hours and see14:08
feydrmcfhowlett: ;)14:08
ObrienDavedoesn't anyone realize they can get .1 with dist-upgrade?14:11
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apfelschorlequit14:12
DeafGoose_Hi all! anybody here familiar with liblognorm? I need some help14:12
cfhowlett!info liblognorm14:13
ubottuPackage liblognorm does not exist in trusty14:13
DeafGoose_I have installed it, however Im having some difficulty finding out how to run it14:13
Guest50644hello can anyone diagnose this is bad or ok from this paste http://pastebin.com/r9BAi8VJ ?what is use of multicast address 244.0.0.014:14
DeafGoose_I installed liblognorm and when I try to run ./normalizer I get a no such file error14:19
designbybeckI have a clean install of Ubuntu 14.04 64bit, I downloaded the .deb from Steam website and this is what I'm getting: http://www.pasteall.org/5303714:23
designbybeckAny ideas?14:23
nightdemon666Any one here have issues with ipod ejecting it self randomly on ubuntu 14.04?14:24
Guest50644hello can anyone diagnose this is bad or ok from this paste http://pastebin.com/r9BAi8VJ ?what is use of multicast address 244.0.0.014:25
axp882hey i just installed gnome from the software center but the activities overview and dock arnt showing :)14:30
axp882** :(14:30
axp882any ideas?14:30
nightdemon666Guest50644 it does look like a lot of addresses on there, mostly the same address being your default gateway. The multicast address isnt a bad thing either, i think its the address used for communicating services the router performs. For example dhcp.14:30
cfhowlettaxp882 logout, choose gnome session, login14:30
axp882i did that but still the dock isnt showing let me try again14:31
Beldaraxp882, gnome-shell?14:32
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axp882Beldar whats that?14:33
axp882im at the login i used gnome flashback14:33
axp882should i just login as gnome?14:33
Beldaraxp882, The gnome 3 desktop, what is gnome to you?14:34
axp882Beldar im just looking for the launcher and activities overview14:34
Beldaraxp882, Is this the ubuntu unity desktop you want?14:34
axp882Beldar what do you mean? im just trying to login and have the dock visible (like the gnome website shows)14:36
Beldaraxp882, Link to that please.14:36
cfhowlettaxp882 websitte?14:36
axp882http://www.gnome.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/window-selection-3.12.png14:37
dexxI'm brutally new to Linux, too, but I have a slight sense he might have accidentally hid the Activity bar?14:37
jerecan someone explain this line: It locates the kernel source directory by taking advantage of the fact that the symbolic link build in the installed modules directory points back at the kernel build tree.? From this link:  http://www.makelinux.net/ldd3/chp-2-sect-4#?1#?1#WebrootPlugIn#?1#?1#PhreshPhish#?1#?1#agtpwd14:37
Beldaraxp882, That is the gnome shell in ubuntu install it14:37
dexxyou know, that thing, on the left by default with icons and stuff?14:38
Beldardexx, Right click the desktop and navigate to its control, and address what may have hidden it like compiz tweaking.14:39
axp882omg im an idiot you were right log in again14:39
axp882the resolution was wrong and i changed it now vnc froze xD14:40
freeone3000Hi. Is there a way to upgrade from 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS while keeping X11 installed?14:40
Beldaraxp882, For the record every question I asked was totally relevant, but you did not understand, it helps if you know the names and terms of what your using. ;)14:41
cfhowlettfreeone3000 sudo apt-get dist-upgradei14:41
cfhowlettfreeone3000 sudo apt-get dist-upgrade14:41
axp882Beldar and thats why i installed linux in a vm, still learning. Thank you for being patient with me :)14:41
sneakertackcfhowlett: what's the probability that things go wrong during a distro upgrade like so?14:42
AaronCampbellEver since the update to Thunderbird 31 (I just did it yesterday via the software updater from the standard repo), clicking "reply" on an E-Mail opens a message like normal except the From or Reply-to isn't filled into the To field14:42
AaronCampbellHas anyone else seen this?14:42
freeone3000cfhowlett: Alright. Everything was telling me to use the graphical update manager. I'll try that, and see if it breaks VirtualBox integration.14:43
cfhowlettsneakertack I can't assign a numerical probability.  I prefer to torrent the ISO, verify it, set it as a software source and upgrade from there14:43
KobbbHello. Do any of you know a file replication between machines software that does no copy the whole file, but diffs the binary file ? thank you14:54
morpheus_grrsync does that Kobbb14:55
jiohdibtsync maybe14:56
egon_yesterday the update-notifier tells me to update apache2. Now ssl is broken. The ca certificate is not found14:56
egon_Does somebody know why the ca certificate is not found?14:57
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ActionParsnipKobbb: grsync for a GUI if you have a desktop :)15:03
freeone3000egon_: Did you (or the package installer) chance ca-certificates?15:03
egon_no15:04
egon_it was the normal synaptic update15:06
LunarialHi. There's a .encryptfs folder in my recently installed Ubuntu 14.04. It consumes most of my Ubuntu partition space. Can I delete it? I don't know why it's there.15:10
SchrodingersScatLunarial: did you select encrypting your home on install?15:11
cfhowlett!encryption |Lunarial15:11
ubottuLunarial: For information on setting up encrypted private directories (8.10+) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory15:11
LunarialI am not sure, honestly (as I installed four different distros on three different computers in the past two weeks). Is there a way to check whether I did?15:12
axp882hey im accessing a gnome VM from vnc but the resolution is too messed up. I cant change it because i cant hit the apply button. What should i do?15:13
axp882nevermind got it15:14
teaearlgraycoldIs 14.04.1 out?15:15
Symmetriano15:15
Piciteaearlgraycold: Not yet, although some of the files are entering the staging process.15:15
cfhowlettteaearlgraycold sometime today = patience15:15
teaearlgraycoldOkay great15:15
teaearlgraycoldIt's going on my server+laptop15:15
ubuntu___i'm trying to install i3-wm on ubuntu,  http://i3wm.org/docs/repositories.html followed this instructions to install it but i get errors15:16
ubuntu___The following packages have unmet dependencies:15:16
teaearlgraycoldI just randomly remembered that it should have been out sometime in July and then checked the milesone page. Chuckled when I saw this: http://i.imgur.com/YtbacFj.png15:16
ubuntu___i3 : Depends: i3-wm (= 4.8-1trusty1) but it is not going to be installed15:16
ubuntu___ Recommends: i3lock (>= 2.2) but it is not going to be installe15:17
ubuntu___Recommends: i3status (>= 2.3) but it is not going to be installed15:17
ubuntu___what should i do15:17
iptableubuntu___, apt-get install i3 i3-wm i3lock i3status15:18
egon_After updating apache (ubuntu12.04) the client browser says it cannot download the certificate15:19
teaearlgraycoldegon_, is the certificate file in the right place? Sometime that changes15:19
egon_what is the right place?15:20
LunarialIs there a way to check whether home folder encryption is enabled?15:20
Jaanii want to search thru a directory for a string (the directory contains 500gb of file). is there a faster way to search for the string other than using grep?15:20
teaearlgraycoldHonestly I don't know. I just remeber when I installed my certificate that I found like 3 different places to install it when googling around.15:21
teaearlgraycoldIf it's a personal machine you could just build a new certificate15:21
egon_teaearlgraycold: i think /etc/ssl/certs15:22
tonyggi pxe the machines in my cluster off of one cluster. all the machines are identical hw. currently i'm using 13.04 and want to upgrade to 14.04. the first thing i'm trying to do is update the nodes' initramfs and kernel. however when i upgrade from 3.8.0-19-generic to 3.13.0-32-generic i get a kernel panic related to eth0 device not existing. any ideas?15:24
tonyggi updated the way i always have; unpacking the image verifies the new img has the same conf as the old, working img. and all eth modules are there.15:24
basketballhow did this person get google drive and google plus https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-nLbfYvoLfhA/U9BGccEdBEI/AAAAAAAAT1Q/df8-4Nxz41s/w506-h316/Screenshot+from+2014-07-23+17%3A11%3A44.png15:24
clevasIs there a way to install the latest ubuntu on a machine with no uefi along side windows 8.1?15:25
SymmetriaIm curious to see if I see an increase on our mirror when 14.04.1 comes out15:26
daftykinsclevas: you'd have to keep using the boot menu to manually boot each OS if you mix the types15:26
clevasI dont even have a boot menu15:27
clevaslol15:27
daftykinsclevas: you might do and not know it, what kind of computer?15:27
clevasolder dell dimension 515015:27
eeeeclevas: you can install ubuntu in legacy mode15:28
clevaslegacy mode eh15:29
daftykinsclevas: in that case Dells boot menu is F12 on startup typically15:31
daftykinseeee: but going mixed will mean hassle on every boot15:32
daftykinsclevas: out of interest what's putting you off doing an EFI install?15:32
clevasI see what you're saying...my computer dont use efi15:32
eeeedaftykins: i assumed his question was that it's an older laptop with no uefi but with win8 installed nevertheless... and he wants to know if dual booting is possible15:32
eeeeam i wrong?15:32
daftykinsoh, but you said windows 815:32
smarlieUbuntu 12.04 Update Manager offered hardware enablement stack update yesterday. It completed without any errors. On reboot the computer gets as far as the desktop then freezes and 'distorts'. Started following last answer from Dogsbody http://askubuntu.com/questions/493541/hardware-enablement-stack-hwe-out-of-support. Booted into recovery mode and did sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-lts-precise followed by hwe-support-status --verbose, which returns 'HW15:32
smarlieE is supported until April 2017'. After rebooting, the computer now seems to be 'fine' . Installing xserver-xorg-lts-precise also removed 45 packages including xserver-xorg-lts-trusty and ubuntu-desktop. Should I leave this alone as it seems to be working normally (did a 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' which returned nothing to upgrade or install) or does xserver-xorg-lts-trusty need to be installed?15:32
clevasi said windows 815:33
daftykinseeee + clevas aaaah, ok sorry - i first read 'with uefi' not 'with no uefi'15:33
clevasSo i do legacy then?15:33
daftykinsin that case yep a standard legacy install beside windows 8 is easily done15:33
clevaswould i still have to f12 it every time15:33
daftykinsyou could've booted media and installed by now ;)15:33
ActionParsnipsmarlie: tried the Unity2D session?15:33
daftykinsnope, that was part of my mistake15:33
egon_quit15:34
clevasIm watching a video on how to legacy install it15:34
clevasfairly new to linux here15:34
biledemonHello. I shouldn't expect any problems running a "superclocked" gfx card on Ubuntu 14.04 right?15:35
daftykinsbiledemon: factory overclocked graphics card? that could be awkward actually15:35
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multihunterhi15:35
biledemondaftykins, how so?15:36
biledemondaftykins, and yes, I mean a factory overclocked15:36
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daftykinsbiledemon: depends on the type and whether or not you'll install the proprietary graphics driver to use it for gaming etc15:36
multihunterI'm trying to use winscp to login as admin then change session to root. I changed sftp serer to "sudo su -c /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server" When I have this line in visudo everything works fine: admin ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL15:37
biledemondaftykins, It's a Nvidia Gtx 780 and yes I will install the proprietary driver15:37
kurfeldHi. How can I remove ftp connections from Nautilus? They are listed under "last used" but I can't do anything with them (just connecting).15:37
multihunterbut I want to limit that NOPASSWD so I tried using admin ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server15:37
multihunterbut winscp cant connect when I limit sudo for admin15:37
multihunterwhats the problem?15:37
smarliethe computer is set to log in automatically. if coming from rescue mode the desktop is OK.15:38
daftykinsbiledemon: ok, well be sure to stick to supported ones... downloading from the nvidia site wouldn't be the recommended approach15:38
biledemondaftykins, Yes, I know. I'm just wondering if there's anything "special" with factory overclocked cards? like they use the same drivers and stuff?15:41
jiffe98is 12.10 not supported anymore?15:41
smarlieshould i install the xserver-xorg-lts-trusty and try Unity2D? or try Unity2D with the desktop that is working now with xserver-xorg-lts-precise?15:42
daftykinsbiledemon: the overclocked settings are set in firmware on the card, so no15:42
daftykinsbiledemon: btw i'd recommend never to buy a factory overclocked card again, it'll die early... mark my words.15:42
xanguajiffe98: it hasn't for a year15:45
xangua!12.1015:45
ubottuUbuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) was the 17th release of Ubuntu.  Support ended on May 16th, 2014. See !eol, !upgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/quantal15:45
biledemondaftykins, and how early is that? I'll probably want to update again in 5 years or so15:45
daftykinsbiledemon: do you have any idea how rich i would be if i could predict hardware failure?15:46
MonkeyDustmultihunter  is that a server? if yes and you don't get an answer here, try #ubuntu-server15:46
multihunteryes its a server15:47
dexxcongrats to me, I already had to use Alt+PrtSc+ R E I S U B :D15:47
biledemondaftykins, I've heard a overcloked card may last around 8 years instead of 1015:47
dexxdear lads, is there a common name for that command?15:47
MonkeyDustdexx  simply reisub, i guess15:48
smarlieActionParsnip don't think so, automatic login is set up. should i install the xserver-xorg-lts-trusty and try Unity2D? or try Unity2D with the desktop that is working now with xserver-xorg-lts-precise?15:48
LunarialIs there a way to check whether home folder encryption is enabled?15:49
ActionParsnipsmarlie: just log off, then change session to Ubuntu 2D, then log in15:49
oscar_!12.0415:49
ubottuUbuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the current !LTS release of Ubuntu.  Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/120415:49
ActionParsnipdexx: I use:   killall -u $USER    in TTY1 personaly, same efect15:50
clevasi never caught how the legacy install was different from efi install15:50
* fsdfs on15:51
dexxthank you ActionParsnip, however, in my case I didn't get to see anything except "oh, my desktop froze..."15:51
daftykinsclevas: that's kinda beyond the scope of support really15:51
daftykinsclevas: plenty of information online to educate you between the differences and the purpose as to why it exists15:51
dexxI might have to point out it's my first day using Ubuntu, I (unsuccessfully?) tried Kubuntu before15:52
clevasI know why it exists i just didnt catch in the video on how to choose legacy instead of eufi15:53
acovrigIs there any way to lock a user into a graphical program (like a kiosk)?15:53
smarlieActionParsnip the computer is my mum's and I'm helping her via phone (nightmare) Great idea, I'll try Unity2D. thanks very much.15:54
eeeeclevas: if your bios is setup to boot in legacy mode, the installation will run in legacy mode automatically, check here:15:54
eeee!uefi | clevas15:54
ubottuclevas: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI15:54
btcxtrader#bitcoin-otc-ru15:54
mheinkedumb .sh question. i cant remember how to check whether a warning exists.15:55
clevasubottu i dont want it on uefi machines i need it on a legacy maching15:55
ubottuclevas: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:55
clevasmachine15:55
clevasoh haha15:55
switchtehbeatLol15:55
eeeeclevas: there is information in that link concerning legacy as well15:55
th3_mol3anyone fixed the youtube flickering problem?15:55
th3_mol3http://alicious.com/flickering-flash-video-youtube/15:55
th3_mol3this didn't work for me15:56
dexxdoes any one of you use Autodesk Maya by any chance?15:56
Symmetriacan anyone tell me if http://logs.mirror.liquidtelecom.com displays correct under browsers in ubuntu (or if it whines about needing more vlc plugins or something)15:57
ActionParsnipth3_mol3: I use CHrome, never had a flickering flash issue15:58
th3_mol3might switch to Chrome15:58
MonkeyDustSymmetria  it doesnt whine, it simply asks to activate vlc, then it show some pong game or so16:02
MonkeyDustit shows*16:02
mmoreydoes anyone know how to disable plymouth?16:03
Symmetriamonkey heh thats not a pong game :) thats a web server log visualisation16:03
Symmetriain real time16:03
Symmetriaheh, what you're seeing there is a visualisation of a tail -f of an apache log16:03
MonkeyDustSymmetria  great, all you have to do is activate the vlc plugin16:03
Symmetriamonkey ok, still gonna try make an html5 version though :)16:03
Symmetriathanks though16:03
Jaxinxhi everyone, I have got a simple question, what is the difference between logical and primary partitions?16:07
JaxinxWhich one is better for holding data?16:07
freeone3000Jaxinx: For legacy partition (non-GPT) headers, you're limited to four primary partitions. Because. One of those primary partitions could, instead, be a set of logical partitions.16:08
daftykinsthere's no difference to data integrity, it's just that in the old msdos style, primary partitions are bootable and logical aren't16:08
JaxinxSo, when it comes to data integrity and also recovery for later, there is NO difference between the too, you are saying?16:09
MonkeyDustJaxinx  you can make up to 4 primary partitions, but inside logical partitions, the number is much higher16:09
freeone3000Jaxinx: None.16:09
daftykinstwo, no16:09
JaxinxI mean which one is more prone to damage?16:09
freeone3000Jaxinx: Neither.16:09
JaxinxOK, thanks alot folks.16:10
freeone3000Jaxinx: The entire distinction is an artifact of a bygone age.16:10
daftykinsJaxinx: they're on one disk, that disk is susceptible to failure, not partitions16:10
Jaxinxdaftykins: GOTCHA16:10
TBotNik_All: using the "locate -i content-" cmd and want to eliminate certain dirs, such as "/usr". Think regex does this but not good at regex.16:10
freeone3000Symmetria: application/x-vlc-plugin isntead of a proper <video> element? For shame.16:11
TBotNik_All: Repeating: Using the "locate -i content-" cmd and want to eliminate certain dirs, such as "/usr". Think regex does this but not good at regex. How do I tell locate to skip those dirs?16:11
eeee!patience | TBotNik_16:12
ubottuTBotNik_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/16:12
TBotNik_eeee: Sorry did not mean to "enter" the first time was not done!16:13
SevetTBotNik_: locate -i content- | grep -v ^usr/16:14
Symmetriafreeone heh16:15
Symmetriathe video element was a problem16:15
SymmetriaI couldnt make it work with mpeg416:15
Symmetriaand since I cant avconv to theo16:15
SymmetriaI'm having to dual transcode16:15
Symmetriahttp://logs.mirror.liquidtelecom.com/index2.html16:15
Symmetriathat one is html5 now :)16:15
daftykinsSymmetria: please press enter less16:15
Symmetriajust made it work16:15
eeeeTBotNik_: if you want to delete stuff you can use find / -type d -name <dir name> | xargs rm16:17
eeeeTBotNik_: use echo first to make sure it finds the directories you want to delete... it's a little dangerous16:17
eeeesorry, "rm -r" not "rm"16:18
lucas_21Hi everyone! I need a little bit help. I have modprobe kmod version 15 and... It doesn't have the option -l. What's the way to list all the modules of the kernel? thanks in advance.16:21
TBotNik_Sevet: locate -i content- | grep -v ^/usr  works!  Now the other dirs are from the multiple WordPress installs, one for each client site, that I have on my machine, over 100 of these, and will be */wp-content/* in the middle of a dir string.  What is right syntax for that?16:21
ActionParsniplucas_21: sudo updatedb; locate *.ko | grep `uname -r`              may do it16:22
eeeeTBotNik_: sorry my command is wrong, it needs a -exec, nevermind16:22
TBotNik_I'm searching for a bunch of content files I downloaded that I got lost to me, but know they are somewhere on this 1.5TB drive!16:23
TBotNik_eeee: They all start with "content-", but can not find them in folders I thought they were in!16:24
jygIs there anyway to point an old 10.10 to get updates?16:25
TBotNik_eeee: Supposed to be out on my Dropbox drive, but not finding them there!16:25
jygi've tried the old-releases change to sources.list and it gets me nothing16:25
Rohan_mI have two users "hum" and "raj" and a file "log.txt" in "raj's home directory" i want to access "log.txt" from user "hum" without changing permissions of file "log.txt"16:25
ActionParsnipjyg: no, Maverick is EOL16:25
jygyeah, that's painfully obvious :)16:25
SevetTBotNik_: grep -v /wp-content/ ... you can pipe through grep multiple times or merge them into grep -Ev "(^/usr/|/wp-content/)"16:25
ActionParsnipjyg: I suggest a clean install of Trusty which is LTS and supported til April 201916:25
Sevetprobably can do it in a locate pattern too, but using grep is easy :)16:26
jygActionParsnip, thanks, I wish i could.16:26
ActionParsnipjyg: the you will get no updates and no community support16:26
Sevetas for content- files, you could try find /path/to/seach/under -name 'content*'16:26
jygActionParsnip, i'm working on a clients old machine and something needs to be updated16:26
jygcan't just revamp the entire thing, not the budget currently in place either16:27
Rohan_mI have two users "hum" and "raj" and a file "log.txt" in "raj's home directory" i want to access "log.txt" from user "hum" without changing permissions of file "log.txt"16:27
jygcrap. this could kill the whole deal16:27
ActionParsnipjyg: there arent any packages, its like trying to get windows updates for Windows 98, they dont exist16:27
jygeventually he'll have to spend the money16:27
jygActionParsnip, beats me wh they don't just leave it available w/o support16:27
lucas_21ActionParsnip, Thanks, all ok.16:28
MonkeyDustjyg  because most wouldnt understand why it's still available, if it's not supported, and thay'd want support16:28
MonkeyDustmost people*16:28
ActionParsnipjyg: because after time there will be lots of old releases taking up lots of space, just for a small handful of users who wont upgrade16:29
ActionParsnipjyg: the feasibility is ridiculous16:29
TBotNik_eeee: OK using => locate -i content- | grep -Ev "(^/usr/|/wp-content/|/X11/)" and much much better! Going to send to .txt file and edit to find what I want.  Still over 500 lines of output!16:29
ActionParsnipjyg: this is why LTS releases exist16:29
jygActionParsnip, well not to beat it into the ground, but it makes more sense to me to confuse the few new comers who somehow install an EOL version rather than choke to death the old timers who know what they've gotten into16:29
ActionParsnipjyg: you can upgrade from LTS to LTS and miss the releases between, making upgrades easier16:29
jygActionParsnip, this is exactly why I've moved my customers away from ubuntu16:30
Pencil_hello16:30
jyganyhow, sorry didnt want to get into an argumetn about it16:30
ActionParsnipjyg: if you want a rolling release, try Debian16:30
MonkeyDustjyg  and if old versions remain available, nobody would want or need to upgrade16:30
jygActionParsnip,  so in trying to upgrade one thing, aptitude inadvertantly uninstalled chrome. no idea how I'm going to get it back.  any ideas ?16:30
jygMonkeyDust, why force people to upgrade?16:31
ActionParsnipjyg: grab the deb, install the deb16:31
Brofistany @ around?16:31
ActionParsnipjyg: its not a force at all, you cna use Maverick for a milion years if you want16:31
jygMonkeyDust, i stopped using ubuntu on my desktop because multi-head display is broken and it still isn't fixed. so i stayed iwth my old version. when i couldn't update anything, and multi-head still wasn't fixued, i dumped ubuntu16:31
ActionParsnipjyg: you just wont get updates or support16:31
eeeeTBotNik_: Sevet is the one helping you out not me :)16:31
ActionParsnipjyg: there is no force at all16:31
Brofistthere is this person.. in pm harassing me.. is there any @ here can do about this things? http://i.imgur.com/aD6CDfB.jpg16:31
jygok like i said, i'm not here to argue about it16:31
ActionParsnipjyg: Im just stating the facts16:32
eeeeTBotNik_: i'll be glad to help don't get me wrong, i'm still trying to see why find -exec isn't working :D16:32
jygsince aptitude uninstalled chrome, even though it wont install anything, is there a way to get it back?16:32
ActionParsnip[17:30] <ActionParsnip> jyg: grab the deb, install the deb16:32
MonkeyDustjyg  and an enterprise cannot simply change its policy for the needs of a few individuals16:32
jygdont understand why it did all this prep in uninstalling when aptitude wasn't sure it could complete the process prolperly16:32
jygthanks MonkeyDust, and as to my question?16:33
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Pencil_Suddenly this morning I'm getting "Internal error" .16:34
Pencil_Reboot no help16:34
MonkeyDustPencil_  when you did what, exactly?16:34
eeeeTBotNik_: maybe there's more info you can pin down in the search? like creation time or size less than something ?16:34
jygok so, just arguments. thanks a ton.16:35
Pencil_I just did update yesterday so I'm sure that's the problem.  Running 12.04.16:35
ne0_Hi,16:36
MonkeyDustPencil_  ok, what were you doing, when the error appeared?16:36
Pencil_The error appears when I start ubuntu.  But I tried going to the web and yahoo, it works.16:36
Pencil_I don't know how to reinstall without partitioning.16:38
MonkeyDustPencil_  why do you want to reinstall ubuntu?16:38
Pencil_Because I think something is corrupt.16:39
MonkeyDustPencil_  first try to find out what's wrong, then repair that16:39
Pencil_I'm a user.  Don't know how to do the necessary surgery.16:40
MonkeyDustPencil_  is it a apparmor error?16:41
Pencil_I don't recall seeing anything like that.   Is there an error log ?16:42
MonkeyDust!dmesg | Pencil_ there's this16:43
ubottuPencil_ there's this: dmesg is a console command which outputs the kernel ring buffer - an important log for diagnosing problems in  Linux. Often when something errors with hardware it will result in additional lines reported which can be seen by running dmesg in a console.16:43
MonkeyDustPencil_  but can you work? if yes, simply ignore the error at startup16:44
borisetoWill there be a lot of problems if both 12.04 and 14.04 use the same home folder?16:44
boojcan anyone say when 14.04.1 will be released?16:45
Pencil_dmesg show a lot of stuff.16:45
MonkeyDustboriseto  /home contains config files and they may be different for different releases16:46
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Picibooj: sometime today16:46
OssumPawesomeso my ubuntu web server says it has a bunch of updates every time i ssh to it, and if i sudo apt-get update it installs a bunch of stuff.  However, it will still say it has the same number of updates ready afterwards.  What's the deal with that?16:46
lala304hi everybody, any recommendations regarding a WLAN USB STICK which works out of the box with ubuntu 14.04? the wiki entry regarding "wlan cards" is a bit outdated :(16:46
borisetoMonkeyDust, thanks, as I suspected. And do you know if there is a way to use different small partition only for conf files or something?16:46
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MonkeyDustboriseto  no, don't know if that's possible, i'm no help for that16:47
borisetoMonkeyDust, thank you for clearing that.16:47
basketballE: Unable to locate package grive-tools16:48
Pencil_Thank you MonkeyDust.   I'm going to log out and login back in so I can get a better look at the error.l16:48
TBotNik_eeee: Final cmd is => locate -i content- | grep -Ev "(^/usr/|/wp-content/|/X11/|/.Trash-1000/|/backups/|/Marketing/|/In-Active/|/EBM/|/C-Wines/|/FindPregnancy/|/Installer Packages/|/ndavis/|-openjdk/|/TBird-Exports/|/installer_unpacks/)" > /home/files/cont-files-list.txt16:49
TBotNik_root@New-Off-DT:/home/Projects/External/GDS/php_scripts# nano /home/files/cont-files-list.txt and shows me about 25 lines.  Most important the missing files were supposed to be in dir ../GDS, but got saved to ../GNN so you can see the confusion!16:49
TBotNik_eeee: Thanks got it now.  Lots of work today!  Cheers! Bye!16:50
eeeeTBotNik_: cool, i've been trying to get find to delete the files, finally works after some googling find / -type d -name <directoryname> -exec rm -r {} +16:50
eeeesomewhat of a seek and destroy command16:50
basketballE: Unable to locate package grive-tools16:53
daftykinsbasketball: that's a lovely error you keep pasting, does it come with an explanation in question form?16:54
Alexander_Tsup guys, i installed the gnome-desktop on my ubuntu 14.04 installation and it worked, but now the windows in the gnome 3 desktop environment look like the ones from ubuntu and some are actually missing some borders. anyone know why this happend and how to fix it?17:04
nwilson5#postgresql17:05
nwilson5oops17:05
nwilson5sorry17:05
freeone3000Alexander_T: Gnome theming. Check gtk-theme-name in ~/gtk-3.0/settings.ini17:05
basketballdaftykins,  when i try to install grive after adding the repo that is what i get17:05
daftykinsbasketball: right, we need full output including commands run, we're not mind readers17:06
Alexander_Tfreenode3000, can i check that via gnome tweak tool or do i have to do it manually?17:06
Pencil_My mystery internal error went away after some reboots.  Now I want to upgrade but it says failed to fetch.  Possible network connection problem but I 'm able to go to yahoo etc.17:06
basketballdaftykins, sudo apt-add-repository ppa:thefanclub/grive-tools sudo apt-get update    sudo apt-get install -y grive-tools17:07
daftykinsPencil_: what version are you on?17:07
daftykinsbasketball: we don't support PPAs.17:07
Pencil_12.0417:07
Pencil_Want to move up 12.1017:07
daftykinsPencil_: it's EOL, why?17:08
basketballdaftykins,  so you cant help17:08
daftykinsbasketball: correct17:08
Pencil_Want to get up to supported versions17:08
basketball:(17:08
Alexander_Tfreenode3000, ah i got it! i changed the theme via the preinstalled gnome tweak tool. thanks!17:08
daftykinsPencil_: 12.04 is LTS, it's still supported :) 12.10, 13.04 and 13.10 are also EOL (unsupported)17:08
Alexander_Tfreenode3000, what i'd like to know is why this happend. is it a bug?17:09
thephreakcheckin in, I'm trying to do-release-upgrade on a system running 12.04. and getting an error "WARNING:root:file 'quantal.tar.gz.gpg' missing". IS there any way to update at this point?17:09
PiciPencil_: by later today (once the update is released) you will be able to upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 (if that is what you want to do)17:09
DJonesbasketball: Your best bet is to contact the ppa maintainer and ask them why you're getting the error, it may be they haven't released it for the version of Ubuntu you use17:09
Picithephreak: 14.04.1 has not yet been released. Wait a few hours.17:10
Pencil_Sorry, I thought I needed to install the latest.  wanted to step up17:10
thephreakah okay, so its today then hopefully?17:10
Picithephreak: yep.17:10
thephreakfantastic! thanks17:10
basketballDJones, what does -y do when installing something in terminal17:11
daftykinsbasketball: auto agree, no prompt for yes17:12
DestinyAwaitsis there a way to delete word by word on the terminal? Rather then deleting it character by character17:12
DestinyAwaits??17:12
eeeeDestinyAwaits: hold alt + backspace17:13
clevasWhen i go to install ubuntu along side windows 8 i get the picture of the little man at startup so this should mean that its booting in legacy mode. It still corrupts my mbr though!17:13
daftykinsclevas: that's just booting a live session, it won't be touching the disk at this point.17:14
daftykinsclevas: what makes you think it's touched the MBR?17:14
clevasbecause i always get grub error at startup then i have to repair my win8 mbr with rescue disk17:15
DestinyAwaitseeee: it worked and what if I start from start of the line?? Instead of a backspace.. I tried delete isn't working17:15
DestinyAwaits:(17:15
basketballdaftykins,  will google drive come to ubuntu sone17:15
basketballsoon17:15
daftykinsclevas: so did you install? did you boot into the live session?17:15
clevasyes17:15
clevasyes and yes17:15
daftykinsclevas: to which? there were two questions17:15
daftykinsright17:15
Pencil_DestinyAwaits are you in an editor or command line?17:16
daftykinsbasketball: i am not qualified to answer that question, Google are a third party, what they release for Linux is irrelevant to this channel17:16
clevasI dont know what else to try17:16
dexxladies and gentlemen, do you use Skype on Ubuntu?17:16
DestinyAwaitsCOMMAND LINE17:16
DestinyAwaitsPencil_:17:16
DestinyAwaitsCommand line17:16
clevasIm starting to think its not possible with my setup17:17
MonkeyDustdexx  what if we do?17:17
Pencil_DestinyAwaits can you left arrow or 'h' to before the wored and dw it out ?17:17
Pencil_word17:18
Rohan_mmy www-data is unable to create directories17:18
dexxI'm not entirely sure whether it performs as it should on my instalation.. e.g. "file transfers" list simply didn't want to clear after my "Clear List" click17:18
DestinyAwaitsPencil_: Its not working on the terminal.. :(17:19
Rohan_mmy www-data is unable to create directories17:19
daftykinsRohan_m: so you said the first time, but both times your question lacks detail17:19
dexxhm, okay, I had to "decline all" in order to clear the list, nevermind...17:20
eightygritRohan_m: Is it a umask issue?17:20
Pencil_DestinyAwaits - are you able to move to the left with an h or a left arrow on the cmd line?17:20
Rohan_mdaftykins: i logged in as www-data via ssh so i was by default in my home directory that is www i thought of making directory there and it says permission denied17:20
eightygritRohan_m: Check permissions on the parent directory.17:21
DestinyAwaitsPencil_: nope17:21
Rohan_meightygrit:drwxr-xr-x  4 root root   4096 Jul 24 13:13 www17:21
eeeeDestinyAwaits: you can use ESC+F to get to the end of the word17:22
dexxnow let me see if my Ubuntu crashes every time I put it to sleep ;)17:22
daftykinsRohan_m: so yu created a password for www-data? that's really really bad practice17:22
daftykinsRohan_m: which version is this?17:22
DestinyAwaitseeee: not working17:23
Rohan_mdaftykins: yeah i did ! version of whta ?17:23
Pencil_there may be a set -o necessary.17:23
daftykinsRohan_m: ubuntu...17:23
Rohan_mdaftykins: 13.1017:23
eeeeDestinyAwaits: i meant ESC+F to get to the end of a word, then alt+backspace to delete it all17:23
daftykinsRohan_m: that's EOL.17:23
Rohan_mdaftykins: sory 14.1017:24
axp882hey all was just wondering how to enable a samba server to work with os x. I think i have a problem with it. every time i try to right-click and select shar it gives me a "net usershare" returned error 25517:24
daftykins14.10 is alpha17:24
eeeeDestinyAwaits: you mean ESC+F isn't working?17:24
Rohan_mdaftykins: let me confirm17:24
cesci_fabrhey17:24
cesci_fabrI have a short question I made a pastebin and I put it here17:24
cesci_fabrcan anyone help me?17:24
cesci_fabrhttp://goo.gl/wWuNrf17:24
leonixyz_Hello, I have a problem with an old printer on Ubuntu 14.04, I found this bug report that is very likely the same as mine https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups-filters/+bug/998087 , but I cannot understand how to fix my problem17:24
ubottuUbuntu bug 978120 in cups-filters (Ubuntu Precise) "duplicate for #998087 Toshiba Estudio 230 printer driver bug" [High,Fix released]17:24
daftykins!ops | cesci_fabr17:24
axp882also says invalid parameter for security17:24
ubottucesci_fabr: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang17:24
Rohan_mdaftykins: 14.0417:24
DestinyAwaitseeee: ESC+F is not taking me anywhere.. :(17:25
MonkeyDustRohan_m  whatever you try to do fails, because 14.10 is not ready17:25
DestinyAwaits not working17:25
MonkeyDustRohan_m  ok, pressed enter too fast17:25
Rohan_mMonkeyDust: its 14.0417:25
nikinhi. I experience a problem. Have an installed base of ubuntu machines. And whenever power is cut while booting the next boot the system stops at the GRUB menu screen. problem is that there is no keyboard on the systems only a touchscreen so they can not advance in souch case.. is there a way to disable this?17:25
nikinrunning 12.0417:26
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Guest92467allllright, dear folks, it does, so as it happens I have a question:17:26
MonkeyDustnikin  disable what?17:26
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nikinMonkeyDust: i guess this is a security feature.. so on system failure the menu shows every time17:26
clevasmaybe i have to install the 32bit to be able to dual boot with windows 817:27
dexxI have a sense only my Unity crashes after waking my computer up, is there a way to access terminal or "task manager"?17:27
nikinSo i want grub to allways continue nomather what.17:27
MagicSpudhey I would like to upgrade my ubuntu 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS but I cant see it available at automatic updates...any clue?17:27
MonkeyDustnikin  you can set the time out to 017:27
nikinMonkeyDust: i did that. but that only works on normal boot. I mean it has no timeout when power is cut. it does not continue at all.17:28
jeffreylevesquecan I format a usb to ntfs in ubuntu?17:28
eeeejeffreylevesque: yes, mk.ntfs17:28
jeffreylevesquethank you17:29
eeeebe sure to use -Q option for a quick format17:29
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jeffreylevesqueI'm running my Ubuntu within virtualbox 4.1.10, i need to somehow be able to access the usb17:32
qwertz007I found a solution to my printer problem but don17:32
qwertz007I found a solution to my printer problem but don't know hot to fix it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups-filters/+bug/99808717:32
ubottuUbuntu bug 978120 in cups-filters (Ubuntu Precise) "duplicate for #998087 Toshiba Estudio 230 printer driver bug" [High,Fix released]17:32
abadayHi, I received a kickstartfile from someone. Can anyone tell me what this will do? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7848718/17:33
Pencil_DestinyAwaits - did you find your problem?  Are you in a default BASH terminal ?17:33
nikinMonkeyDust: several sources say to modify grub.cfg in a way. But thats quite hackish and an update-grub will just erase the solution17:33
eeeejeffreylevesque: i don't know if this would work, but you can make a file that represents the raw disk if it's a hdd, i dont know if it'll work for a usb too, check it out http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#rawdisk17:33
OerHeksabaday, ask that'someone' how this script is making a LVM with ext4 partitions17:34
nikinMonkeyDust: never mind... found it :) GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT=$GRUB_TIMEOUT17:34
abadayOerHeks: is this a kickstart or preseed skript?17:35
eeeejeffreylevesque: maybe you could add the usb as a shared folder ? i'm testing it right now..17:35
OerHeksabaday, you say kickstart17:35
abadayOerHeks: ok17:35
abadayOerHeks: I need to change it so /boot gets its own partition at the beginning of the harddisk17:36
MonkeyDustnikin  that's how good this channel is :)17:37
OerHeksabaday, can't help you there, ask the channel17:38
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abadaymr channel, I need help with formatting a 8TB harddrive so that /boot is on its own partition at the beginning of the harddrive (sda1), and / on sda2. I have this kickstart script http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7848718/ but it doesnt have the /boot on its own partition. Can someone help me?17:42
abadayi want to use the same script but put in that /boot is on the beginning and on its own17:42
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jeffreylevesqueis there a command I can use to see if my usb is connected?17:44
abadaylsusb17:44
daftykinsphunyguy: did you report the user in #freenode, sir?17:45
phunyguyis that a #freenode issue?17:45
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portlypineIs there a channel for asking stupid-noob level questions?17:45
mojtabaHi, Do you know how can I have more than one shell interpreter in a script?17:45
clevasSo no one here successfully installed win 8.1 along side ubuntu in legacy mode17:46
MonkeyDustmojtaba  better ask in #bash, i guess17:46
mojtabaMonkeyDust: Thanks17:46
thephreakmojtaba, you could call the other interpreter as a command in a bash script maybe?17:47
MonkeyDustclevas  no one here installs win17:47
daftykinsclevas: i just don't know where to start in assisting. did you buy 8 at retail to install on there, or what?17:47
* OerHeks knows 8 Tb hdd are just announced, not available yet17:47
MonkeyDust8TB? drool17:47
clevas8 was installed first17:47
clevasNow trying to put ubuntu17:47
clevascorruption every time17:47
Symmetriaheh 6TB disks are available but they still cost more money than sense17:48
Symmetriaso I dont wanna know what 8TB disks are gonna cost17:48
Symmetriaat the moment I run 36 x 4TB17:48
daftykinsSymmetria: this is not the place for off topic chat, please join #ubuntu-offtopic17:50
daftykinsclevas: right but did you buy 8?17:50
abadayOerHeks: my 8tb is 4x 4TB hdds with RAID 1017:50
clevasyes i did17:50
daftykinsclevas: well, setup of 14.04 should've offered to write GRUB to /dev/sda and it should just work really.17:51
Rohan_mdaftykins: Solved thanks a lot fella for your time17:52
lolipoppbasichash: damn you're sexy17:52
clevasYou use a lot of "shoulds" in your sentence17:52
daftykinsclevas: would you prefer 'might' ?17:53
abadayI need help with a kickstart script for ubuntu 14.04. I need to alter this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7848718/ to squeeze in a /boot partition at the beginning of the disk of 256 MB EXT2. please!17:53
clevasThe thing is i now know that should and might mean wont17:53
daftykinsclevas: well they don't, but since you're taking this attitude i'm no longer going to assist, sorry. you're on your own.17:54
linux888hey there17:55
linux888which torrent client do you guys think is the best?17:55
clevasYou're accepting defeat then because we just prooved it doesnt work17:55
Rohan_mGNOME > KDE17:55
linux888for ubuntu?17:55
daftykinsclevas: no because i don't like your attitude. goodbye.17:55
Rohan_mfor everything17:55
xangualinux888: you can try and use what you like the most17:56
Rohan_mGNOME > KDE in every aspect just cause nokia owns Qt this does'nt make Qt better than Gtk17:56
linux888k bye17:57
ikoniaRohan_m: what is your actual question ?17:57
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Rohan_mikonia: oh my question is solved i was just tryin to put up discussion on GNOME vs KDE what do you say ?17:58
lolipoppbasichash: you have the perfect jawline17:58
ikoniaRohan_m: there is no "vs" discussion, it's just personal preference which you like17:59
Rohan_mikonia: i was actually talking about performance purpose a basic window prompt takes up more resources in case of Qt while in Gtk it takes only few also Gtk is not wrapped up under lot of classes like that of Qt so I LIKE GTK AND GNOME FOREVER18:01
jp_porterhello there anyone know how to make compiz NOT load on start up18:02
stan_man_canMy computers running windows 7 already, is there any way for me to set up a dual boot with Ubuntu without removing my windows installation?18:02
Rohan_mjp_porter: are u making one ?18:03
daftykinsstan_man_can: yes ubuntu will resize the windows partition if that's what you want18:03
jp_porterno i just want to know how to stop it from loading up it sort of slows down  PC18:04
patrick_Mhaving trouble on trusty with vnc server - can anyone confirm this as a problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/127401318:05
ubottuUbuntu bug 1251281 in gnome-session (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1274013 xrdp from gnome-session-fallback shows static gray screen via remmina or vinagre" [High,Triaged]18:05
Rohan_mjp_porter: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/NonGraphicalBoot18:06
Bashing-omjpentland: At the login box, upper right is a ubuntu logo, have you clicked on it and tried a different session ?18:07
Bashing-omjpentland: soory bout the ping .. jp_porter left quickly !18:08
Rohan_mBashing-om: yeah he wanted to boot without "x"18:08
Bashing-omRohan_m: : ) .. We can do that too .. huh .18:09
Rohan_mBashing-om: yeah pretty cool !18:10
Rohan_mBashing-om: take this for future reference https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/NonGraphicalBoot18:10
ln6265431Hello18:10
Rohan_mln6265431: Hi18:10
cillo531any news when ubuntu 14.04.1 point release will be released?18:11
baastrup_HI can anyone tell me wich app/service who does the nvidia modprope at boot?18:12
daftykinscillo531: when it's ready18:12
MonkeyDustin CLI, what's the path to the software sources file again?18:13
Bashing-omMonkeyDust: /etc/apt/sources.list and 3rd party /etc/apt/sources.list.d .18:14
MonkeyDustBashing-om  tnx18:14
ln6265431The Ubuntu have no voice suddenly,who can tell me how to deal with this.18:15
MonkeyDustmy 12.04.4 sources.list is corrupt, can some pastebin his own (maiden) 12.04 sources.list file? tnx18:16
geniiMonkeyDust: Just use the one at /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list as an example. It may not have Precise but some other previous release as the default, but easily changed.18:17
MonkeyDustgenii  tnx18:19
jbbHI18:20
Odd0002hello18:21
Pencil_I go to the dashboard and click on downloads and it doesn't open.  Neither does Documents.18:21
skulltipwhat's a standard gui tool which shows how much ram i have18:21
neventhey guys, can anyone confirm whether I should use the amd64 or i386 version of 14.04 server?  I have a AMD Turion II Neo in my HP N54L18:22
d45611hi guys.  I'm SSH'ing into a server running Ubuntu 14.04.  i'm trying to install weechat, and it's worked, but when i run it i get a perl error.  can anyone tell me what the simplest way to fix this is http://pastebin.com/rpqjAXLp     there are many suggestions online such as editing your .bash profile...18:22
d45611i tried the command update-locale LANGUAGE=en_GB.UTF-8 and i got this error http://pastebin.com/1fP675rg18:22
vfwnevent: Is it dual core processor?18:22
neventYeah18:22
vfwnevent: How much RAM?18:23
acovrigI’m trying to setup a virtual router: is it possible to set my guest’s mac address to (a specific) *:42 address, and spoof my physical mac to a random address so there isn’t a conflict?18:23
neventat the moment, 2 soon to be 818:23
TBotNikAll: have .htaccess file in http://site/wp/content.  Content shown in PB at: http://pastebin.com/RuBGiNfM  but files are never shown.  This is test site and must work before content here can be moved/added to the wp site section!18:23
acovrigthat way the router gets the same mac as my physical card, so my IP doesn’t change?18:23
vfwnevent: It is up to you, but amd64 would prolly be good to use.18:23
vfwnevent: It's what I would do.18:24
neventThat's what I was thinking, the better support for 32bit software threw me off though18:24
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TBotNikWhat have I not done or done wrong?18:24
daftykinsd45611: you should not be doing these things as root. you should not attempt to run an IRC/chat client as root.18:24
acovrigI don’t get DHCP address if I use my *:42 address for some reason18:24
d45611root is the username18:24
Busserlnevent: unless you know a package you need doesn't come in 64bit, I wouldn't excpect to have an issue with this.18:25
neventyeah cheers vfw18:25
d45611that's the only username i was given for the server.....18:25
vfwnevent: Well, it just depends.  Now-days it's not much of a problem because you can use 32bit software on a 64bit system, you just have to load 32bit libraries, no problem.18:25
daftykinsd45611: then you should create a dummy user to run programs as18:25
d45611alright18:25
d45611but, about the perl problem.....18:25
d45611any ideas on that one?18:25
pbxwhat happened to gnome-do? was it killed by unity and/or gnome-shell being "good enough"? or is there some other similar tool that everybody jumped ship to?18:30
pbxthere hasn't been a plugins release in five years. https://launchpad.net/do-plugins18:30
pbxand the domain for the project domain now just redirects to game/porn pages18:30
abadayI need help with a kickstart script for ubuntu 14.04. I need to alter this http://pastebin.com/qFYdRcpn to squeeze in a /boot partition at the beginning of the disk of 256 MB EXT2. please!18:30
rwwpbx: iirc docky forked from gnome-do, but that's last updated 201218:31
rwwpbx: i expect GNOME 3 happened.18:31
bazhang!info gnome-do18:31
ubottugnome-do (source: gnome-do): Quickly perform actions on your desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9-1build1 (trusty), package size 470 kB, installed size 2405 kB18:31
pbxrww, gnome 3, gnome shell specifically?18:31
* pbx looks up docky18:32
rwwpbx: either that, or all the library changes, or... *shrug*18:32
db1hello i need help with x display18:32
pbxrww, what library changes?18:32
db1on ubuntu 14.0418:32
rwwah, there's a 2013 version too, according to /topic #docky18:32
rwwpbx: erm, you realize GNOME 2 to GNOME 3 was not just UI changes, yes?18:33
pbxrww, i'm asking what the relevance is to user demand for gnome-do18:33
TBotNikAll: Error from the dir is 404 error!18:33
rwwpbx: ah. I thought you were also interested in developer interest. I think it's even less useful for me to speculate on what end users think than speculate on what motivates developers.18:34
pbxrww, all right, well, thanks for the info18:34
db1can someone help me with x display?18:34
axp882hey im trying to share a folder across the network, everytime i try to cleate it (right-click menu) i get this error: 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. Access Denied18:34
axp882does anyone know how to fix this? ive been at this damn thing for a while for what should be a damn trivial task18:34
pbxdb1, ask your question.  what did you want to do, what did you try, what happened?18:34
ln626543114.04 Ubuntu have no voice.18:35
db1I can ssh into the server but I want to get the GUI to work also.18:35
ln6265431Is there someone can help me .18:35
db1I just can't do it on ubuntu18:35
daftykinsln6265431: what is your native language?18:36
LordXe-gnudb1: as in you want to do x forwarding?18:36
db1i'm not sure what you mean by x forwarding18:37
LordXe-gnuyou want to launch a program over ssh that displays a window in X?18:37
ln6265431Chinese.18:37
db1sort of like vnc viewer from a windows perseptive18:38
LordXe-gnuyou could do vnc also, sure -- just install a vnc server on it18:38
LordXe-gnuI guess it's not really clear what you are really trying to do :x18:38
eeee!cn | ln626543118:38
ubottuln6265431: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw18:38
compdocdb1, you need a 2d desktop, which isnt supported with current OS18:38
Guest93174hi, I installed kde-plasma-desktop onlatest ubuntu. Does anyone know why in unity it mounts my camera and phone but in kde it doesnt?18:39
daftykinsGuest93174: sounds like MTP support issues, depends on the default file manager in Kubuntu, or if installing that package name is really enough to provide the full desktop of KDE18:40
db1ubuntu does not require vnc viewer though?18:40
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db1i don't get it18:41
Guest93174so what should I install to get it work on KDE?18:41
db1from a windows machine i can VNC into my server, but on my ubuntu machine I can't get the gui to come up18:42
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SchrodingersScat!VNC | db1: you can setup a VNC if you like, but there is also a feature of ssh to run gui on local machine18:42
ubottudb1: you can setup a VNC if you like, but there is also a feature of ssh to run gui on local machine: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX18:42
renebarbosadb1, what's the OS you're running in your server?18:42
db1oel 6.418:43
renebarbosaif you are using Linux you can enable X11 Port Forwarding18:43
renebarbosait's easy18:43
rww(Oracle Enterprise Linux, for anyone who doesn't know what OEL is)18:43
renebarbosaI work with OEL too18:43
kurfeldHi. Is there any trick to remove FTP connections from Nautilus? They are saved as "last used" connections. I will remove them from there.18:44
aq676_89hello18:51
aq676_89do we have ubuntu 14.04.1? or when?18:51
infinity_anyone know where i can get this package? the link provided does't work. http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/amd64/php5-cli/download18:52
OerHeksaq676_89, when it is finished, schedule says today 24th18:52
Piciaq676_89: sometime today.18:52
aq676_89ty ty18:52
aq676_89:)18:52
db1so does this have any problems with x-display?18:52
db1?18:52
OerHeksinfinity_, raring 13.04 is EOL18:53
rksvy2Hi: I need help with this error message and any pointers to recover from this once this error starts or even how to avoid this error completely18:53
infinity_OerHeks: there isn't an archive ?18:53
OerHeksinfinity_, servers are down, so upgrade18:53
infinity_why is it on the package server ?18:53
infinity_cant upgrade18:53
daftykinsrksvy2: you best use paste.ubuntu.com to share said error18:54
compdocdb1, what version of ubuntu?18:54
daftykins!eol | infinity_ see the last link here for how to upgrade from an EOL release18:54
ubottuinfinity_ see the last link here for how to upgrade from an EOL release: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades18:54
daftykinsinfinity_: you'd probably be better off clean installing 14.04 though18:54
paulus68is it pôssible to run a smtp server on a virtual machine? and if so what would be the recommended disk size when there are about 2000 mails sent a day18:54
pbxpaulus68, i'd just consult the docs for your MTA on the disk size question18:55
daftykinspaulus68: you're better off getting a hosted solution18:55
infinity_yea. no can do. our stuff isn't compatible with the new ubuntu18:55
OerHeksinfinity_, really?18:55
daftykinsinfinity_: in future you should develop for LTS releases18:55
sheap14.04 says virtualbox-guest-dkms is installed, but the module isn't loaded :(18:55
infinity_looks like i need to make my own package repo in the future.18:55
compdocpaulus68, you can run many distros in a VM. and emails dont take up much room18:56
infinity_anyone know when the archive is going ot be online ?18:56
Guest93174daftykins: you know what I need to install to get mounting also work in kde-plasma-desktop?18:56
daftykinsinfinity_: the link tells you. it will never come back, it's renamed now.18:56
daftykinsGuest93174: no18:56
paulus68compdoc I know it's just for sending out email notifications18:56
compdocpaulus68, so 20 or 30 G sized drive?18:57
rksvy2As per daftykins suggestion this is the error I am fighting: http://pastebin.com/t7edALq418:57
infinity_daftykins: oh shit. perfect. how come nobody said there was an old-releases server18:57
rksvy2Once these errors start I have no choice but to reboot the server18:58
daftykinsinfinity_: i did give you the links. please tone down the language in here thanks18:58
rksvy2I would really be super grateful if someone can point to how to 1. Avoid this 2. Recover once this starts out18:58
infinity_daftykins: sh*t needs to be toned down? are you amish ?18:58
daftykinsinfinity_: either comply or you will be removed.18:59
infinity_daftykins: i didn't say i wouldnt comply. i just asked.18:59
daftykinschannel policy.18:59
* infinity_ needs to file complaint .18:59
Guest93174daftykins: if I would like to try my luck with kde full, shall I remove plasma before that? And does this kde full desktop have any chance to break ubuntu? Like adding some icons in main menu it cant display properly or something?18:59
infinity_lol18:59
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mmoreyHow would I file a problem report?18:59
daftykinsinfinity_: seriously though, if this is your place of work - educate them on basing things on LTS releases, not ones like 13.04 that lasted 6 months19:00
OerHeks!bugreport19:00
daftykins!bug | mmorey19:00
ubottummorey: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.19:00
daftykinsGuest93174: i have no idea. never used KDE.19:00
OerHeksah without report, thanks daftykins19:00
compdocrksvy2, theres lots of hits on google, like:   https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=13424919:00
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daftykinsOerHeks: any time :)19:00
mmoreyI cannot use ubuntu-bug.  It is not installed.19:00
Guest93174tok19:00
mmoreyI wish to use the web interface.19:00
Guest93174*ok19:00
rksvy2compdoc: I saw alot of hits too and alot on ipv6 enablement.. that has not been enabled for me so too many of those hits did were not relevant.. hence I am here19:01
compdocrksvy2, its about disabling, and its enabled by default. Are your cpus peaking?19:02
sudowhat19:02
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rksvy2Ok let me check again.. I checked my /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe... file and it does not exist19:02
compdocwhat do you see is taling up the cpu time?19:02
compdoc*taking19:02
Guest6716teach me something cool19:02
Guest6716someone19:02
rksvy2Maybe it is a diff location for trusty19:02
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compdocrksvy2, here, I created this:    http://pastebin.com/U7DY64p419:03
dreamondoes anybody know when 14.04.1 is coming out?19:05
OerHeksdreamon, , when it is finished, schedule says today 24th19:05
rksvy2compdoc: thanks.. :-) (I happened to hit something similar also...) Thanks and sorry for the trouble19:05
compdocrksvy2, but does it help?19:06
dreamonOerHeks, will it be finished today?19:06
daftykinsdreamon: just be patient.19:06
timmy_tofuWhen it does come out, does anybody know if the downloads (ftp, torrent) will be changed for that version, or are new installs to simply install 14.04 and upgrade to .1 as existing installs do?19:06
OerHeksdreamon, yes no maybe19:06
avignitedhi19:06
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daftykinstimmy_tofu: using 12.04 as an example, new media gets created19:07
Guest6716avignited, Hi19:07
avignitedhi guest19:07
avignitedany c programmers here?19:07
Guest6716yeah  me19:07
Guest6716:d19:07
Guest6716let us C19:07
avignited:P19:07
imahuge_noobAnyone able to help with intel graphics drivers?19:07
avignitedhehe19:07
daftykinsimahuge_noob: explain what's up then someone might be able to help if they know19:08
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rwwavignited: probably best off identifying to nickserv and then /join ##c19:08
rww!register19:08
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode19:08
imahuge_noobI just updated my hardware stack when prompted and now my graphics are having issues19:08
gregor_can I mix DDR3 1.35V 1600MHz RAM with a DDR3 1.5V 1333MHz one?19:09
daftykinsgregor_: join ##hardware19:09
imahuge_noobdaftykins: and Inte's download link for linux drivers ir broken, and the community portal only has the latest stuff for 14.04 (I'm on 12.04)19:10
imahuge_noobIntel*19:11
OerHeksintel should work OOTB, no drivers needed AFAIK19:13
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imahuge_noobOerHeks: My workspace windows are just grey boxes now, nothing snaps to my screen and when switching workspaces it's no longer a fluid motion19:14
daftykinsimahuge_noob: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log please19:19
imahuge_noobdaftykins: http://pastebin.com/R3hDtEx719:22
daftykinsimahuge_noob: i see the problem19:23
daftykins     9.396] (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)19:23
daftykins[     9.396] (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering19:23
imahuge_noobInteresting19:23
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imahuge_noobSo how do I fix that?19:23
daftykinsimahuge_noob: first off show me the output of "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-dri"19:24
bccubuntu 12.04.. ufw disabled. Its only a local web server, but local traffic keeps getting added to iptables DROP. There are NO firewalls on it :(19:25
amph900my sis191 ethernet doesn't work in 14.04 - it kinda did if you prodded it with mtu 1492 but that doesn't work anymore either19:25
daftykinsamph900: ancient SiS hardware? go back to 12.04 maybe19:25
imahuge_noobdaftykins: http://pastebin.com/XD2PZYgE19:26
amph900the rest of my hw works better though, including my radeon19:26
amph900it's much faster in 14.0419:26
amph900just no working ethernet19:27
daftykinsimahuge_noob: you're using the x-swat PPA i see there, your system is full of 3rd party PPAs19:27
daftykinsimahuge_noob: anyway it installed, so reboot and re-pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log after please19:28
imahuge_noobK brb19:28
amph900and it's not much of an old controller19:28
daftykinsanything SiS is ancient :D19:28
amph900gigabit, openbsd and windows are both happy19:28
amph900just not linux (and haiku, but who cares about haiku?)19:29
daftykinsamph900: then you have a decision to make19:29
amph900buy a pro/1000 seems reasonable19:29
axp882hey im trying to share a folder across the network, everytime i try to enable it (right-click menu) i get this error: 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. Access Denied19:30
axp882does anyone know how to fix it? im tired to going around the web and editing the conf file19:30
daftykinsaxp882: i'd have given up on graphical sharing and installed and configured samba manually by now19:31
axp882daftykins tried to do that still having problems :(19:31
axp882i just want to share an attached volume to it19:32
axp882**to a mac19:32
daftykinsaxp882: what filesystem is on this 'volume' ?19:32
axp882daftykins ext4 i think19:32
daftykinscan you confirm?19:32
jay__draftykins: Hey this is hugenoob19:33
axp882daftykins confirmed19:33
axp882its just a virtual HD i added with vsphere19:34
jay__daftykins*19:34
daftykinsjay__: ok19:34
axp882daftykins what do you have in mind to share with a mac desktop?19:34
jay__daftykins: So it got stuck on a black screen at reboot so I had to hard shutdown. Then when I started it again it gave me an option to boot into 2 different linux version as well as a memtest option and whatnot19:35
jay__daftykins: I chose the first option and now I'm only in a black terminal interface using irssi19:35
daftykinsjay__: ah yeah, recovery menu etc. etc.19:35
daftykinsjay__: alright, well you can just remove that package again... but your system has the ubuntu x-swat PPA added along with many others, so you're not even running a properly stable standard ubuntu system really19:36
jay__daftykins: Should I just restart again or what?19:36
daftykinsafter removing that package yes19:36
jay__daftykins: What's the command for that? I don't remember the name of the package either19:37
MonkeyDustubuntu 12.04.4 -- black screen with blinking cursor -- nomodeset trick failed -- am in a live session now -- hints and tips for the black screen? tnx19:37
daftykinsjay__: type history19:37
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jay__daftykins: "Unable to locate package libg11-mesa-dri"19:38
tiblockHi. Is 14.04 released? Can i do do-dist-upgrade from 12.04?19:39
daftykinsjay__: it's libg"L" as in lower case l then #119:39
loctauxphilippetiblock, Yeah!19:39
tiblockloctauxphilippe, okay, thank you19:39
loctauxphilippetiblock, But it was released 3 moths ago!?!19:40
tiblockloctauxphilippe, no, i tryed today at morning and he wasnt released, somebody here sayed me it will be released today19:40
stangelandhow do i increase the speed of my trackpoint? (lenovo x1 carbon gen2)19:40
tiblockloctauxphilippe, so you dont know is it released?19:40
jay__daftykins: I still boot into tty119:41
OerHekstiblock, when it is finished, schedule says today 24th, day is not over yet19:41
DJonesloctauxphilippe: 12.04 to 14.04 upgrades don't happen automatically until 14.04.1 is released, thats expected later today or tomorrow19:41
loctauxphilippetiblock, Oh you are talking about 14.04.1 or just 14.04 ?19:41
loctauxphilippeOh!19:41
tiblockOerHeks, okay, thank you19:41
tiblockloctauxphilippe, im about do-dist-upgrade19:42
loctauxphilippeI don't know if .1 is here...19:42
PiciIt isn't.19:42
jay__daftykins: f7 is supposed to be the normal desktop right? Cause that's stuck as well, and there's an error there that says "NO suitable module for running kernel found"19:42
loctauxphilippetiblock, I didn't have anything about the .1 release.... ;-(19:42
tiblockloctauxphilippe, OerHeks says it will be today, so need wait more19:43
loctauxphilippetiblock, Yep!19:43
loctauxphilippetiblock, Everone is wating for that...19:43
loctauxphilippetiblock, Maybe tomorow?19:44
tiblockloctauxphilippe, i dont have information, i dont know19:45
jay__this sucks :(19:45
loctauxphilippetiblock, Allright...19:45
daftykinsjay__: you've filled your system with too much junk from PPAs, i'm not entirely surprised. is that machine fully upgraded?19:46
jay__daftykins: Yeah, besides being on 12.0419:46
hellyeahhey19:46
hellyeahdo you kknow what channel belngs to elementary os?19:47
daftykinsjay__: that's fine, but just be sure with a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"19:47
daftykins!elementary19:47
ubottuElementary OS is an Ubuntu derivative which is supported in their IRC channel #elementary on irc.freenode.net - http://elementaryos.org/ for more information on this distribution.19:47
daftykinshellyeah: ^19:47
hellyeahhey daftykins19:47
jay__daftykins: dist-upgrade does what?19:47
hellyeahthanks19:47
daftykinsjay__: look it up if you want, sorry i'm working on something right now19:48
Pici!dist-upgrade | jay__19:48
ubottujay__: A dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention.19:48
jay__Thank you, brb I'll do that19:48
OerHeks!rootirc19:50
ubottuIt's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.19:50
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jay__daftykins: That didn't install or upgrade anything19:50
root___hi guys, forced to come here as root in recovery mode -- ubuntu 12.04.4, black screen with blinking cursor, nomodeset is no help, even with acpi=off -- hints & tips please? -- 14.04 is useless for my hardware19:51
daftykinsjay__: alright, i think there are some issues with your install but sadly i don't have time to carry on now... you could ask again in here and say you've got trouble with X not starting, mention you have tonnes of PPAs19:52
rksvy2compdoc: I am still in major trouble19:52
jay__Anyone able to help with X not starting? Apparrently I also have tonnes of PPAs19:52
rksvy2compdoc: the RCU INFO messages stop .. but... the server is frozen19:53
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rksvy2compdoc: the console is frozen and so is the ssh terminal19:53
quorrahello there19:54
dacorrQuick question, anyone having rendering/refresh issues using the xedgers graphics?19:58
ik_hi19:59
ik_how are you ?19:59
root___hi guys, forced to come here as root in recovery mode and cannot open links -- ubuntu 12.04.4, black screen with blinking cursor, nomodeset is no help, even with acpi=off -- hints & tips please? -- 14.04 is useless for my hardware20:00
FawazA warm greet to a warmer dear!20:01
FawazI have recieve a laptop which is concern the OPERATOR SYSTEM 'UBUNBUT"! But it cause me much distrees20:01
ik_salam aleikum20:01
FawazAleikum us Salam wa Rahmatullah wa barakatuh20:02
Fawazbismillahi rahmani rahim, qol-ho wallahu ahad20:02
Fawazallahu samad20:02
Fawazlam yalid wa lam yoolad wa lam yakun lahu kuffuwan ahad20:02
ik_shukran sadiqi20:02
FawazI have recieve a laptop which is concern the OPERATOR SYSTEM 'UBUNBUT"! But it cause me much distrees20:02
trijntjeFawaz: ok, sorry to hear that20:03
trijntjeFawaz: you don't have to use ubuntu if you don't want to, feel free to use something else20:03
hellyeahFawaz: where are you from?20:03
FawazI am manager of a firm Fawaz Air Conditioning and Refridgerators20:03
DinosaurioIs Ubuntu 15.04 going to be released or we're moving into a rolling release distro?20:03
FawazBut the Ubuntu system has created a problem. Our refrigertor use a program which activate them for 6 hours in a day.20:03
hellyeahis this english?20:04
FawazBut the Ubunut system does not support this.20:04
FawazThis laptop is model 'ACER' and it is white exterior like a cream ice.20:04
hellyeahis this praying english?20:04
FawazI have never dealt 'UBUNTU' system in my life. But Windows I have familiarity and my brother say to me I am technician!20:04
trijntjeFawaz: ok, then you have to talk to the people who created the program, ask them if they have a version for ubuntu20:05
FawazI have call them, but they hang me20:05
FawazThey say: "your camel is limp, there is no such thing."20:05
FawazI do not think this scam OPERATOR SYSTEM is valid20:05
FawazNone of my program work in it20:05
trijntjeFawaz: we cannot help you, we don't even know what program you are using.20:05
trijntjeFawaz: please be polite, we are all volunteers here20:06
trijntjeFawaz: maybe you can take the laptop back to the person who sold it to you, ask for another laptop that has windows?20:06
FawazPerhaps I will try.20:07
Fawazhttp://apps.microsoft.com/windows/en-us/app/clock-live-tile-alarm-timer/3b5bf892-cf9d-4f0a-b5a4-7bbbe958e30920:07
FawazThis si application20:07
FawazI apologize brother, if I offensed you.20:07
FawazA Persian infidel sell me this computer.20:07
trijntjeFawaz: well, if you tell us we are scammers, its no suprise we are offended20:07
FawazAnd we all know, if an Iranian can find money in him mother's cunt and arse, he will certainly put his head in it.20:08
Fawaztrijntje: Well an Iranian fellow sell it to me20:08
FawazThey are scammers 100%20:08
trijntjefair enough, I was just about to tell him that I wouldnt help him unless he kept his predudices in check20:08
Dinosauriohe's right20:09
aguitel_14.04.1 is up ?20:12
st34lthI need my account password reset  how to find operator20:13
trijntjest34lth: what do you mean with operator?20:13
allgoodAtTaotihi all, hopefully realitivly simple yes or no here but, is there a way to do a /etc/hosts.d type of thing where I can add a directory of files that will work like the /etc/hosts?20:13
Piciaguitel_: not yet.20:13
IdleOnest34lth: ask in #freenode for a password reset email20:13
jay_Anyone able to help me? X won't start and I get suck on "Checking battery state" when trying to boot20:14
st34lthThanks Idleone20:14
magesingHi everyone... I was trying to install nvidia drivers from a .run package I downloaded from nvidia... but the install didn't work, and now I have a seriously messed-up X session.  I put in my installation media and now I'm up and running off of a live-cd... how can I fix my graphics?20:15
axp882hey so i finally got a damn fileshare to work on ubuntu but when i access try to open the folder in os x i get this error: the operation cannot be completed because the original item cant be found20:17
axp882it may be worth mentioning that its on an attached HD20:17
axp882ie: /meshal/username/HDDname20:18
Raazeeraxp, what kind of file share are we talking about?20:18
axp882** ie: /media/user/HDD20:18
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axp882Raazeer its the native smb in gnome20:18
axp882ie: rightclick then share20:18
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axp882i edited the conf file and all is working if its a local file on the VM20:19
Raazeeraxp882, you should be aware that there are several different versions of the protocol, which aren't entirely compatible.20:19
Raazeerhave you tried accessing it from other oses/machines than your osx one?20:19
rawrmonsterWhat happend to ia32-libs?20:19
axp882Raazeer not quite, it just works flawlessly for files on the main HD but anything in /media/HDDname doesnt work20:20
s1991pls anybody help me with wired network connection problem. It was working fine but stopped suddenly.20:20
Luke_AHello people! I'm new to Ubuntu and Linux in general and have an issue with an Ubuntu guest running on a VM in windows 7. I can't get the internet working from within Ubuntu can anyone help me please I've been trying for days!20:20
RaazeerI see. So you want to share a mounted device over the network, right?20:20
axp882Raazeer Exactly20:20
RaazeerLuke_A, this might be more of a question for a virtualisation/windows channel.20:21
Raazeeraxp882, how are you going about mounting the external device?20:21
axp882I mounted it with the Disk application20:21
rksvyLuke_A: Ensure your network in your VM is in bridged mode20:21
jay_Anyone? :(20:21
axp882its on /media/username/HDD20:21
Raazeeraxp, you're doing all this from gnome, right? because gnome has its own mounting/sharing daemon that sometimes behaves strangely.20:22
Luke_AI need to use NAT mode as I can only have the one connection on a university network20:22
axp882Raazeer yes its from gnome, but mounthing the HD happened in ubuntu and it works perfectly within the VM20:22
axp882Raazeer im just not able to access folders remotely ONLY on the mounted drive20:23
Raazeeraxp882, I'd suggest trying to do it from the command line with the traditional samba/mount commands and see if it behaves differently.20:23
RaazeerLuke_A, my professional oppinion is that this has nothing to do with the linux guest but is a problem on the windows host.20:24
BusserlLuke_A: what do you use?20:24
RaazeerLuke_A, the whole virtual network thingy should be completely transparent to the guest.20:24
BusserlLuke_A: I'd also guess that Ubuntu by default just tries DHCP, and if that doesn't work, it is probably not Ubuntu's fault.20:24
Luke_Aok thanks guys20:25
Luke_Ahmm I don't know where to go20:25
BusserlLuke_A: Do you use virtualbox?20:25
RaazeerLuke_A, if you want NAT, seen from your linux guest it should look like there is a router on the virtual lan.20:25
Luke_Ayes20:25
BusserlLuke_A: have you tried static ip, or just dhcp/nothing at all?20:26
Luke_Aive tried changing the ipv4 settings to match the host20:26
RaazeerLuke_A, that's wrong for sure.20:27
Luke_Aand dhcp which is supposed to be automatic if I am right20:27
BusserlLuke_A: I don't use vbox anymore, so my memory of its NAT mode is not good. That probably wouldnt work.20:27
BusserlLuke_A: Do you use a wireless card, is it a laptop host?20:27
Luke_Aok well others told me to do it so I tried theres a lot of conflicting information out there for new users20:27
bekksvbox NAT and static IPs do work fine.20:27
Luke_Aits a wired host on a university network20:28
Luke_Abut the same issue happens on my wired network at home20:28
Luke_Afrom terminal I can ping external ips but not web addresses20:28
Luke_Aso is it a dns issue?20:28
RaazeerLuke_A, I guess that's that.20:28
Luke_Ais that normally something that's easy to fix?20:29
RaazeerLuke_A, btw, can't you just request another IP from your admins?20:29
RaazeerI presume you have a good reason for wanting that VM.20:29
Raazeerbridging is way easier than the whole NAT shmodder.20:30
Luke_Abut I want to know why nat will not work20:30
Luke_Ai thought nat was supposed to be the simplest way20:30
RaazeerLuke_A, the first thing you have to understand when you run virtual machines on windows is that sometimes "because it's friday and summer" is a perfectly good reason for something not to work.20:31
BusserlLuke_A: Looks like DNS information coming to the vm is wrong. Usually the DHCP server gives that info along with the ip to clients.20:31
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BusserlLuke_A: but could be anything, yes20:31
Luke_Ahaha! ok20:31
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compdocbut its only thursday20:32
RaazeerLuke_A, the whole network stack of windows is just not built to support the kind of flexibility you'd expect of linux20:32
Luke_Aso if I set DNS information manually what should it be? the same as the host as displayed in ipconfig /all?20:32
RaazeerLuke_A, try 8.8.8.820:32
Raazeeras dns20:33
jay_Can someone help me? X won't start and booting gets stuck on "checking battery state". I googled around and this seems to happen with people who've had their nvidia drivers screwed up but I have intel integrated graphics (though I had been using a dual monitor setup so maybe I installed something stupid in the process?)20:33
Raazeerjay_, without wasting time on google, did it say the _drivers_ were fouled up or the _config_?20:33
jay_Raazeer: I saw both being mentioned.20:34
RaazeerLuke_A, what network configuration scheme do you use?20:34
Luke_Araazeer can you explain how i do that just so i know that I'm doing it right?20:34
BusserlLuke_A: I think this could work as a test: Type into the terminal 'dig @8.8.8.8 www.youtube.com'20:34
RaazeerBusserl, good idea before fouling around with the config.20:35
Raazeerjay_, what does Xorg.log say?20:35
Raazeerany errors?20:36
BusserlRaazeer: Well I also forgot the command for telling resolvconf a different server. :)20:36
RaazeerBusserl, there's always man pages.20:36
Luke_Ait does nothing same as when i try and ping web addresses20:36
RaazeerLuke_A, so you can ping 8.8.8.8, right?20:37
Luke_Ayes razz, that works fine20:37
Luke_A^raaz20:37
Raazeerso what kind of output does dig @8.8.8.8 youtube.com give you?20:38
Raazeerany errors?20:38
Luke_Aconnection timeout20:38
Luke_Ano servers could be reached20:38
jay_Raazeer: There are 3 - 1) (EE) error, (NI) Not implemented, (??) unknown --- 2) /dri/i965_dri.so failed to open, no such file or directory --- 3) same_path/swrast_dri.so failed to open, no such file or directory. I should also mention that this all started with a hardware stack update. Things seemed to be pretty weird with my graphics (though I still had a desktop). I came on here asking for help and daftykins saw a similar error and told me to install libg1-dri-me20:39
jay_Raazeer: He also mentioned that I seemed to have a lot of PPAs20:40
RaazeerLuke_A, then can you get any content at all?20:40
RaazeerLuke_A, try wget http://74.125.232.68 (which is google)20:40
Raazeerit should download an index.html20:41
Raazeerjay_, that doesn't tell me anything specifically. have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling the drivers?20:41
Luke_Anope doesn't work20:42
jay_Raazeer: Apologies i misinterpreted the key as an error :), under the first error it says: AIGLX) reverting to software rendering, and under the second it says GLX: could not load software renderer20:42
nonconvergentOkay, got a fresh ubuntu 14.04 lts headless server up.  I go to set a static ip in /etc/network/interfaces, by setting "iface eth0 inet static", "address 192.168.33.181", "netmask 255.255.255.0", and "gateway 192.168.33.1"; after rebooting it's on the right ip but I can't see outside the network IE can't even ping.20:42
RaazeerLuke_A, then you can obviously get icmp packages through but nothing else. this is definitely a network problem host sid.20:43
Raazeere20:43
Luke_Aok20:43
mustmodifywhere is the path traditionally set?20:43
Raazeerjay_, that looks like a clue right there.20:43
Luke_Athanks raaz et al. I shall try and find another channel20:44
mustmodifyI've been struggling to figure out why a script isn't working from crontab and finally discovered that, when using crontab, /usr/local/bin isn't in the path.20:44
RaazeerLuke_A, good luck, getting vms to work on windows without spending a cartload of money is a task in its own.20:44
rksvyfolks, can someone help with this error where I see RCU self detect stall that freezes my system and makes me reboot it20:45
Raazeermustmodify, where the path is set depends largely on the context you are in.20:45
Raazeeryou can always overwrite it on the command line.20:45
mustmodifyRaazeer: I understand that.20:45
mustmodifyRaazeer: But two entries are in the path from crontab and I don't see export PATH in ~/.bash*20:46
mustmodifyor ~/.profile20:46
Raazeerrksvy, you win the most unspecific question of the day award.20:46
mustmodifyso I'm trying to figure out where that's set20:46
nonconvergentAny love, ubuntu?20:46
Raazeermustmodify, what exacly are you trying to do?20:47
jay_Raazeer: Any ideas?20:48
rksvyRaazeer: gee thanks :-) I need an award for sure!!20:48
Raazeerrksvy, in other words, I doubt you will find somebody who can help you unless you explain your problem in a leeetle more detail.20:49
rksvyYep.. I understand but I wanted to get some attention ..negative is good wnough ;-)20:49
mustmodifyRaazeer: find out where other things are added to the path and add something to that, rather than half-assing it by adding it wherever, then trying to remember how the hell I did that later.20:49
Raazeerjay_, not off the top of my head, unless "have you googled that specific error?" helps20:49
rksvyTe major symptom of my problem: console freezes ans so does the ssh terminal.20:49
rksvyI had a slew of such error :-20:49
rksvyINFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks: { 7} (detected by 6, t=39932 jiffies, g=1759, c=1758, q=271)20:50
rksvyINFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks: { 7} (detected by 6, t=46237 jiffies, g=1759, c=1758, q=274)20:50
rksvyWhile running a NW loopback test.20:50
Raazeermustmodify, PATH=/some/where:$PATH somecommand is the traditional way20:50
TataBigdaddeygood evening! (provided you're from Europe)20:50
rksvyI rdisabled ipv6 and that slew of errors went away20:50
mustmodifyRaazeer: That's how, not where.20:50
TataBigdaddeyQuestion: any ideas why I can't seem to find the xev in order to install it?20:50
rksvyBUT the frozen console issue is there.. the console still freezes and I get this error once :-20:51
jay_Raazeer: doesn't seem to produce anything useful20:51
TataBigdaddeythe "key pressing" tracking program?20:51
Raazeermustmodify, that's where too - wherever you run the command20:51
rksvyINFO: rcu_sched self-detected stall on CPUINFO: rcu_sched self-detected stall on CPU20:51
TataBigdaddeyI want to bind keys to my mouse,  but need to identify them first20:51
rksvyThat is all I have (this is while running a network loopback test)20:51
mustmodifyRaazeer: Wow, Total disconnect.20:51
mustmodifyjay_: Maybe it's a turing test?20:51
TataBigdaddeyThis guide: http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Mice-and-Pointing-Devices/Guide-for-setup-Performance-MX-mouse-on-Linux-with-KDE/td-p/51716720:51
RaazeerTataBigdaddey, try apt-file find20:51
Raazeerrksvy, sounds like a kernel problem, what does google have to say about it?20:52
jay_:(20:52
rksvyI only find hits that talk about ipv6 bugs and that disabling solves the problem20:53
Raazeermustmodify, seriously, I'd do it ad hoc instead of fooling around with the system config.20:53
mustmodifyRaazeer: Seriously. I think you're a turing test.20:53
Raazeermustmodify, Wy do you say you think I'm a touring test?20:54
hellyeahhey20:54
hellyeahhow can i add a username to the light dm20:54
mustmodifybecause of the total disconnect between what I was asking and your responses.20:54
rksvybut it didn't .. warnings went away BUT the freezing is still happening20:54
Raazeermustmodify, how do you feel about the total disconnect between what I was asking and your responses?20:54
Raazeermustmodify, sorry for kidding you but either I don't quite grasp your problem or you don't quite grasp my answers.20:55
jay_To be fair Raazeer is trying to help like 5 different people at once :)20:55
Raazeeryou want to run a command via cron right?20:55
thephreaki asked earlier about the LTS 12.04 to 14.04, but I'm not a desktop user, i'm running server. I've seen a number of articles on doing this upgrade. Running "do-release-upgrade -d" fails finding the quantal.tar.gz.gpg. Is today's release really going to address my issue?20:55
jay_Raazeer: Oh also if I try startx is says /etc/bin/x not found20:56
jay_/usr/bin/X*20:56
Raazeerjay_, does it exist?20:56
Raazeerif it doesn't that might be a good pointer as to why X does not start20:56
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TataBigdaddeydieties, what's the comand for "apt-find file"?20:57
TataBigdaddeyif I want to find that xev program thingy?20:57
jay_Raazeer: I see X11 and I see Xorg but not 'X'. I should also probably mention that I did sugo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-*, and then when I tried to reinstall nvidia-current it didn't work....So I might also be missing a fair amount of stuff20:58
RaazeerTataBigdaddey, it's apt-file find. it can also do apt-file list.20:58
Raazeerjay_, I think my advice to TataBigdaddey might apply to you also. install apt-file first and find out which packages have /usr/bin/X.20:59
Raazeerthen install the one that looks most promising to you , most likely xserver-xorg20:59
TataBigdaddeyoh, apt-file is a program? :D20:59
Raazeer(but verify that first please!)20:59
RaazeerTataBigdaddey, indeed it is.20:59
TataBigdaddeyugh I thought it's a command... thank you!20:59
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RaazeerTataBigdaddey, it is also a command. specifically it is a command to run the program named apt-file.21:00
jay_Raazeer: wait what params do I give it?21:00
Raazeerjay_, TataBigdaddey apt-file has two modes: find to find a package containing a specific file, and list to list the files contained in a package21:00
Raazeerso you either do apt-file find /usr/bin/X or apt-file list xserver-xorg21:01
rksvyanyone ? Any input on the RCU erro I've been griping about ?21:01
Raazeerit's one helluva useful tool.21:01
Raazeerrksvy, sorry, I could only google that for you.21:01
jay_Raazeer: I don't understand how the results help?21:02
TataBigdaddeynow, since I need to find that - pardon me french - sorryass XEV program... how do I find it so I can also install it?21:02
RaazeerTataBigdaddey, you know the basics about packages and such, don't you?21:03
Raazeerso the question you should be asking yourself is what - pardon me french - sorryass package contains that sorryass xev executable21:03
TataBigdaddeydefine "basics", since I like to believe that I do, however... I probably only understand the idea behind them, and have yet to catch the procedure(s)21:03
rksvyok thanks21:03
Raazeerand since asking _yourself_ that question is not going to yield any answers if it hasn't so far, I'd suggest asking apt-file.21:04
TataBigdaddeythank you21:04
RaazeerTataBigdaddey, to get you started on your way, try apt-file find bin/xev21:04
jay_Raazeer: So I just install any of these that contain /usr/bin/X?21:05
Raazeerjay_, I suggest using your god-given gift of occams razor to select the most likely candidate.21:05
jay_Raazeer: Can you remind me again is 12.04 saucy or raring?21:06
Ben64precise21:06
* TataBigdaddey facepalms himself21:06
Raazeerjay_, iirc it is R.21:06
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wolfspygoogle it?21:06
TataBigdaddeysweet lord jesus (or anyone) Raazeer you have permission to kick my ass21:06
Ben64TataBigdaddey: keep the language clean please21:07
jay_Raazeer: Time to restart, hopefully I won't be back :P21:07
RaazeerTataBigdaddey, I disapprove of cruelty to animals, what's up?21:07
TataBigdaddeypardon me, everyone21:07
Payam2Hi anybody interested in helping me setup Drobpox on Ubuntu? I'm going crazy as every file Dropbox downloads from the cloud becomes Read Only. You can Teamviewer in  and  I will reimburse you for your time.21:08
RaazeerTataBigdaddey, ok, what trigged this unseemly outbreak of self-hate?21:08
Raazeeror should it be self-loathing? not sure...21:09
daftykinsRaazeer: keep it on topic please.21:09
jay_Raazeer: Woo! Okay I have a desktop now. My trackpad doesn't work at all though :D21:09
Raazeerdaftykins, now what?21:09
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Raazeerjay_, that might have something to do with evdev being screwed up too.21:09
TataBigdaddeyI'm new enough not to recognise that "$ xev" is where you should simply enter "$ xev" in order to run thie program21:09
jay_Raazeer: evdev?21:10
TataBigdaddeynew enough meaning - basically my second 'real' use of Linux, day 121:10
RaazeerTataBigdaddey, actually the dollar sign represents your prompt, whatever it looks like.21:10
Raazeerso what you are supposed to enter is just plain 'xev'21:10
TataBigdaddeyyes, the $ symbol is there by default, so.. like you said21:10
Raazeerthe convention is that a dollar sign is the unprivileged prompt, the hash sign is the root prompt.21:11
BSDLOVER`please join #bsdgeekclub21:11
BSDLOVER`i need more users in #bsdgeekclub21:11
jeffreylevesqueis ubuntu considered debian?21:12
Raazeerso if you ever see a line like '# rm -rf /' in a book anywhere, you are supposed to execute 'rm -rf /' as root (don't do that, it is essentially format c: in bash)21:12
Ben64jeffreylevesque: based on debian, not debian21:12
Raazeerjeffreylevesque, flame war starting in 3...2...1...21:12
jay_Raazeer: So Xorg is still unhappy about something. The log is filled a bunch of this:  (EE) FBDEV(0): FBIOPUTCMAP: Invalid argument21:13
jeffreylevesquei got the ice baby21:13
jeffreylevesquethey call me iceman21:13
Raazeerjay_, FBDEV is basicly the fallback in case nothing else works graphic driver.21:13
TataBigdaddeywelp, for now, thank you everyone, I think my eyes are telling me to get to sleep already21:13
Raazeerso I guess you'll have to reinstall pretty much your whole X environment yet.21:13
jay_Raazeer: How do I go about doing that?21:14
Raazeerjay_, how do you feel about rm -rf / and start over? just kidding...21:15
jay_lol21:15
Ben64jay_: what did you do to break it21:15
Ben64Raazeer: don't post that command here even as a joke21:15
jay_I think it all started with me updating my hardware stack21:15
RaazeerBen he uninstalled a few packages and likely cascaded a bit much.21:15
RaazeerBen64, now that I think about it, this might indeed not be the right audience for that joke...21:16
Ben64jay_: what version of ubuntu?21:16
jay_Ben64: 12.0421:16
OerHeksjay_, and tell Ben64 , you have a bunch of PPA's :-D21:16
jay_Lol supposedly, yes21:17
Ben64jay_: pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"21:17
TataBigdaddeymost certainly "see" y'all tomorrow o/21:17
Raazeerok, since jay_ seems to be in good hands with Ben64, I'll retire.21:18
Raazeerit's been a blast helping y'all.21:18
Ben64i have to leave in like 1521:18
RaazeerBen64, 15 can be a lifetime if you know the right commands ;)21:18
Raazeerok, take care everyone.21:18
Raazeersee you soon.21:18
jay_Ben64:http://pastebin.com/zqxCypts21:19
jay_Raazeer: Thanks man, later!21:19
squeeseHey folks, looking for some tips, Im relatively new to using linux (xubuntu) as my main workstation, and therefore I try all sorts of stuff to learn.. but Ive had to reinstall sooner or later alot lately, soo.. need tips on how to set up some sort of backup? Is there something like norton ghost?21:19
Ben64jay_: wow that is a lot of ppas21:20
jay_Hahaha21:20
jay_I've been told21:20
jay_I really didn't think I added a lot21:20
Ben64you might want to consider a fresh 14.04 install21:21
jay_Ben64: I really can't do that :S21:21
Ben64why?21:22
jay_Ben64: My dev environment21:22
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jay_Ben64: Is there any way to just get rid of the PPA's and pull from the main repos instead?21:22
OerHeksppa-purge, as you have been told21:23
Ben64you can purge all the ppas, but it could mess up other things you have going21:23
jay_OerHeks: I don't recall being told that21:23
jay_Ben64: Besides a fresh install what are you suggestions?21:24
Ben64that would be the best21:24
OerHeks!ppapurge21:24
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html21:24
mastermay I have a stupid question? how can I stop writing and send the mail... when I using mail in console.21:25
jay_Ben64: Are you suggesting ppa-purge?21:25
Bashing-omsqueese: My take on backups ( Broke my system many times too learning); system files require no backup as they are on the install media, so all that is "backed up" are personal files (backup your /home directory) and keep a 'change log' of all changes you make from the default install.21:25
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jay_OerHeks: If I just run ppa-purge on it's own will it purge all PPAs?21:27
jay_OerHecks, Ben64: Cause I don't know what individual PPAs I have :S21:28
jay_OerHeks*21:28
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jay_:S21:34
OerHekscd /etc/apt/sources.list.d ; ls21:35
jay_OerHeks: And I should purge all of those?21:36
OerHeksw would do one by one, to see what happens21:36
OerHeksw=i21:36
jay_OerHeks: sudo ppa-pruge ppa:<name_i_see_in_this_dir> ?21:37
jay_purge*21:37
dannixontd12590-ub21:37
OerHekscorrect, see ubottu's message21:37
* StevenR wonders when 14.04.1 will be released. Schedule says today... do-release-upgrade says nothing new?21:38
jeffreylevesqueis there a way i can distribute my processing / processes to other machines?21:38
ikoniaStevenR: what version of ubuntu are you running21:38
StevenRikonia: 12.something LTS21:38
ikoniajeffreylevesque: if the apps are cluster/distrubted workload aware21:38
ikoniaStevenR: then it should be some point when it hits your mirrors today21:38
thephreak12.04 LTS Server... waiting for 14.04.1 so I can update.21:39
jeffreylevesqueikonia, could you help me understand this concept more21:39
ikoniajeffreylevesque: in what way21:39
jay_OerHeks: http://pastebin.com/70dKyS4R21:39
jeffreylevesqueikonia: have one app, maybe 10 people will go on it.  Each person will cause several bash scripts to run, each bash script may execute one or more commands triggering other programs.  I'd like to distribute it -- maybe, if the number of processes hits a certain limit, distribute the other processes to determined machines21:40
BrandonCBashing-om, hello21:41
ikoniajeffreylevesque: not realistic21:41
jay_OerHeks: Did I enter the wrong thing?21:42
dickfeynmanHi, I'd like to know whether the first point release of Trusty (14.04.1) is out.21:43
OerHeksjay_, i don't know your ppa list, but that .list at the end i find nowhere in de example.21:43
ikoniadickfeynman: some point today21:44
StevenRikonia: thanks21:44
jay_OerHeks: Everything in this directory has either .list or .list.save at the end21:44
dickfeynmanikonia: Cool. I'm waiting to upgrade from 12.04 :)21:44
OerHeksjay_, so what were the names you added? sure you must remember something21:44
Bashing-omBrandonC: I am here, hoz it going ? where are we ?21:44
OerHeksjay_,  take a look at https://launchpad.net/~ehoover/+archive/ubuntu/compholio/21:46
NonlI burned a Windows 7 64bit iso to my 8 gb usb so I can install windows on my Ubuntu machine. Upon installing, I get this error: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2755139 Anyone know where to get those media drivers? I'm currently using a ubuntu 12.04 machine21:46
Nonland my cd/dvd drive may or may not work. I'm not sure21:47
jay_OerHeks: I don't remember21:47
jay_OerHeks: To confirm, I should be in sources.d right?21:48
jay_OerHeks: sources.list.d*21:48
_1_jakeryhey21:48
_1_jakeryis anyone okay?21:48
OerHeksjay_, yes, that is where you found that ehoover ppa21:49
jay_OerHeks: Can I just delete the .list file?21:49
_1_jakerywhat's all this that's happening Jay_21:49
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jay__1_jakery: It all started with a hardware stack update. Then my video drivers weren't working so I came here and as told to install lbgl1-dir-mesa or something. Then when I rebooted X wouldn't start so I removed that package but X still wouldn't start. I had to reinstall xorg-xserver cause /usr/bin/X was gone. Now I'm back in my desktop but my trackpad doesn't work anbd the graphics are still screwy21:51
_1_jakerywhy do we have to download all of these things?21:52
jay__1_jakery: what do you mean?21:52
k1l_dont mind him, that was a spam bot21:52
Nonlanyone have idea for my issue?21:54
* OerHeks is reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#A12.04.4_.2B-_13.10_Hardware_Enablement_Stack_Policies_and_Procedures21:55
ronin2what should I configure to be able to use command "mail"21:55
jay_OerHeks: Thanks :)21:56
_zoggy_you need to install it21:57
Nonl_zoggy_, do you have ideas for my issue?21:57
_zoggy_oh nm wrong channel21:57
OerHeksjay_, sounds like a transition issue 12.04.4 to 12.04.5, i am not sure how to say this correct.21:58
jay_OerHeks: How do I know if I'm on 12.04.4 or .5?21:58
OerHekscat /etc/issue21:59
drKendahelp me to install Docu Wiki21:59
drKendaplease21:59
jay_OerHeks: I'm on .421:59
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_Rocky_Hi22:03
_Rocky_I see through netstat that there is a tcp connection established to a random server at port 9001 all the time. Even after several reboot.22:03
_Rocky_I am not using any network application and this is still the case. Any idea what this is?22:04
_Rocky_I am using ubuntu 14.04.22:04
Agent__@Rocky The NSA. :O22:05
_Rocky_Agent__, The fact that your nick is Agent__ does not reassure me ;)22:06
Agent__Oh, I know things! ;)22:06
Agent__http://www.speedguide.net/port.php?port=900122:07
_Rocky_But seriously. does anyone have this?22:07
Agent__Could it be Tor?22:07
_Rocky_Agent__, I think I had it before installing tor22:07
Agent__Hmmm22:08
Agent__Perhaps you could try Wireshark-ing it22:08
Agent__I.e. using a packet sniffer22:08
jcstarkenany one having hide the launcher bar issues in 14.0422:08
Agent__Finding out if it's encrypted22:08
Agent__Oh even better22:09
_Rocky_Agent__, Thats the first thing I tried to do. Wireshark keeps segfaulting :(22:09
Agent__If it uses a particular port, then the TCP/IP stack will have allocated the port for a specific application, no? (finally Computer Science comes in handy :O )...22:10
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Agent__So, I guess one could find a logfile for the program that handles port encapsulation on packets, and find entries for 9001. Find the application that it's assigned to from there maybe?22:11
Agent__Transport layer log files?22:12
hill-i need solve problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/7849976/22:13
Agent__I could be completely wrong and spewing out nonsense right now22:13
Bashing-omBrandonC: Hey, where are you ? And, what remains to be done ?22:13
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OssumPawesomehey so I disabled remote desktop access on my ubuntu web server, but I can still access it through remote desktop.....?22:14
calziferstill no 14.04.1 release?22:15
bitplaneHi, tracker-miner-f is being really CPU hungry and my tracker/meta.db is enormous, a couple of gig22:19
bitplanewhat's its beef?22:19
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hill-<calzifer> no 1222:23
bitplanewiped teh cache with `tracker-control -r`22:24
novae_hi22:25
BrandonCBashing-om said, "OK... I am tired for sure, the next thing is to install, "something else" option .. I would just as soon await a better time to continue, What we have set up,  the installer will change somewhat on the sizes, and a re-confirmation will be required to direct the installer as to what we want . Just as soon tackel this phase in the morrow.22:25
BrandonC"22:25
novae_does anyone know ho to set default quirk save acpi to pm-suspend ?22:25
novae_I'm trying to set this on lid close22:26
calziferhill-: what do you mean with "no 12"?22:29
BrandonCBashing-om, actualy gimme about an hour ill be back22:29
hill-DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 12.10"22:30
hill-calzifer,22:30
Bashing-omBrandonC: K, we will go once more .22:33
TJ-Bashing-om: What is the actual problem BrandonC is trying to solve? It seems to have been going on for days!22:34
_Rocky_Agent__, Sorry buddy, I was trying to use wireshark and it not only crashed on me, it disconnected me.22:36
Agent__No problem :)22:36
Agent__You could always try wiresharking on another PC22:36
_Rocky_Agent__, You are right. I am gonna dig deeper to find the process thats using this port using log files etc.22:37
Bashing-omTJ-: Just try'n to get ubuntu to boot. // We had "partitions outside of boundry" but the numbers said all were good// Do not recall who/why  wipe partitions and start all over came up.22:37
TJ-Bashing-om: "partitions outside of boundry" is from boot-repair report, yes?22:37
_Rocky_Agent__, I think there is an open bug in libpcap thats causing the issue...according to some google searches22:38
Bashing-omTJ-: correct. boot-repair report.22:38
TJ-Bashing-om: That's just bad report formating in the report when it does "fdisk -l" ... it is actually about the CD/DVD drive! If you look back up the report, in the "parted -l" section, you'll see it again, but there it shows the device (usually /dev/sr0)22:38
_Rocky_brb. going offline for a while22:39
Agent__You take care @Rocky22:39
Agent__* _@Rocky22:39
TJ-Bashing-om: I was almost caught out by that recently, but the sector numbers checked out for the hard disk so I dug deeper into the script22:39
Agent__Well D:22:39
Agent__Glad I could help:)22:39
_Rocky_Agent__, will come back and let you know about the culprit. Thank you for your insights. BTW, considering ur knowledge level, u could be NSA ;)22:40
Bashing-omTJ-: Nice to be aware // Think it was you who did the numbers on the partitions and said there was no problem, and I did check, compared the numbers and agreed, the partitions must be aligned . Like I say, no idea where the repartition and start over came from.22:42
pidybii love my Ubuntu :D22:43
hill-i need solve problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/7849976/  DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 12.10"22:43
Pencil2can I go from 12.04 to 14 ?22:46
Pencil2directly?22:46
Bashing-om!EOL | hill-22:47
ubottuhill-: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades22:47
hill-Bashing-om,  W: Failed to fetch http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/CODENAME-security/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found22:50
Pencil2So can I go directly from 12.04 to 14.04 or do I have to upgrade 13.04, 13.10 then 14.04 ??22:51
bekksPencil2: you have to wait for 14.04.1 to update from 12.04 to 14.04.1 directly.22:51
TJ-hill-: Where did you get "CODENAME" from? That should be replaced by the *RELEASE* codename, as in "quantal" for 12.1022:51
Bashing-omhill-: It is a trial to release upgrade from an End_Of_Life release .. Though it can be done, the 'better' course I often see recommended is to backup your data and do a clean install. See the provided link for the means to -online upgrade.22:52
hill-ok22:52
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koellwhere is mark shuttleworth?22:53
visceralkoell: he is everywhere. And nowhere.22:55
koellmark, get your ass in here, we have enough problems :D22:55
Bashing-omhill-: In the event of problems, we are here to assist. It is your choice how to proceed, there is no direct way to upgrade to current. From 12.10 it is a long hard tough road with many pitfalls, a lot of time and effort, not to mention a lot of bandwidth 12.10 -> 13.04 ->13.10 -> (14.04)// ALL are EOL and will be a pain !22:55
koelljono bacon is the jonny ive of canonical! \o/22:56
* visceral regrets talking to koell 22:57
koellok guys, who can i help you? ask and be friendly! :322:58
jelly-homewell, { k, o, e, l, l } is like 60% of { t, r, o, l, l }22:58
visceraljelly-home: point22:58
visceral"who can i help you" <- what22:59
koellxD22:59
visceralkoell: you fail at English22:59
koellthank you very much, english is a quatsch xD22:59
k1l_koell: go home, you are drunk.23:01
zaltekkhey. i just updated the kernel on my 12.04 laptop to 3.13(trusty) because of support ending for the older kernel on august 7th. my intel audio (Intel 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset) has stopped working. i don't see any devices listed with aplay -l23:13
zaltekkno errors in dmesg23:13
zaltekki tried the oem dkms package for the latest alsa audio code, and nothing changed23:14
zaltekkany ideas what else to try?23:14
zaltekkif i go back to the quantal kernel i get audio back23:14
Bashing-omzaltekk: Did you -> apt-get install linux-generic-lts-trusty libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-trusty xserver-xorg-lts-trusty linux-image-generic-lts-trusty <- ??23:15
zaltekkBashing-om: yes23:15
TJ-zaltekk: Does the system have only one audio device? sometimes an HDMI audio device gets listed first and becomes the default device23:15
zaltekkTJ-: it shows no devices with this kernel23:16
TJ-zaltekk: That's not good :(23:16
ikoniaI don't understand why people are changing kernel versions for no reason23:16
ikoniacreating problems23:16
zaltekkikonia: end of support.23:16
ikoniazaltekk: where ?23:16
ikoniazaltekk: what version of ubuntu ?23:16
TJ-zaltekk: Can you pastebin the dmesg?23:16
k1l_ikonia: the 12.04.2 comes with a kernel that support ended23:17
zaltekkikonia: the 12.04 LTS kernel isn't supported after august 7th according the the motd update23:17
ikoniak1l_: support hasn't ended23:17
TJ-ikonia: The HWE for Precise, now 14.04.1 is out, the HWE has to be upgraded to continue support23:17
ikoniak1l_: it's supported within the ubuntu release23:17
ikoniathat's the most stupid thing I've heard23:17
k1l_ikonia: it uses the 13.10 kernel backport. (due to the samsung gets killed by kernel desaster)23:17
ikoniathen it should be a kernel upgrade23:17
ikonianot an optional package23:17
ikoniayou "have to use" this optional package to maintain support is just nonsense23:18
zaltekkthe upgrade is to 3.1323:18
ikoniathe whole point of LTS is supposed to be a stable stack for the 5 years23:18
ikoniachanging kernel is not a stable stack23:18
k1l_zaltekk: yes, that is the 14.04 LTS kernel backport. that is long supported23:18
zaltekkikonia: yeah, well, i was caught offguard too23:18
zaltekkhttp://codepad.org/c8mtd7FF here is proof i upgraded correctly23:18
zaltekkhttp://codepad.org/yvwyDE8s here is dmesg23:19
k1l_ikonia: it is for the 12.04.0 kernel and the 14.04.0 kernel. but if you install the point release you get the backport kernel on default23:19
ikoniak1l_: unacceptble23:19
ikoniak1l_: that is not a stable stack23:20
ikoniathat is changes to the core platform,23:20
k1l_ikonia: that was due to the kernels killing samsung devices. which is more unaccaptable23:20
zaltekkand from lspci:  00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)23:20
ikoniak1l_: then patch/fix it23:20
zaltekkaccording to the ubuntu website it's "certified" for ubuntu23:20
k1l_ikonia: it was with the backports kernel23:21
ikoniak1l_: yeah, backported kernel != stable platform23:21
zaltekkagreed. the individual patch should be ported to the previously-supported kernel23:22
carbidhello23:22
zaltekkall the same, i just want my audio working again23:22
k1l_zaltekk: you are free to install the original 12.04 kernel23:23
zaltekkk1l_: the 12.04.0 kernel? 3.2?23:23
zaltekkthen the laptop deadlocks 2-3 times a day23:24
zaltekkhence why i had upgraded to the newer 12.04 kernels23:24
borisetoCan I backup ssh keys from this OS and use them when I reinstall it? Or are they the same?23:24
k1l_well, then i dont see a point in ranting about kernel upgrades if you did it before anyway23:24
zaltekkk1l_: i wasn't ranting23:24
Loshkizaltekk: in your dmesg, what are all those *BAD*gran_size messages? Never seen them before...23:25
zaltekki just said it broke my audio23:25
zaltekkLoshki: i...don't know.23:25
Loshkizaltekk: Hmm. Care to run a memtest overnight tonight?23:26
zaltekkLoshki: yeah, looks like i should23:26
zaltekkthat's not the same issues unfortunately, though23:26
Loshkizaltekk: understood. If I knew the answer...23:27
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Loshkizaltekk: but deadlocks are a possible sign of bad ram, or power problems, or overheating, or phases of the moon...23:28
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zaltekkLoshki: oh, it hasn't done it in like a year23:28
zaltekkthat was just when i was running 3.2 kernel23:28
zaltekkand other people with the same model laptop had the same problem23:28
blur702When adding a virtual host to apache, where do I add the directives? I'm just used to adding the < virtualhost> info in the apache.conf..23:29
zaltekkbut if i install quantal(3.5) or saucy(3.11) kernels i get messages saying support is ending23:29
Loshkizaltekk: I see you've done your homework. That's good...23:29
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ObrienDaverefreshing, to say the least :)23:30
Bashing-omObrienDave: Did you get lost_x back on track, last night ?23:32
LoshkiBashing-om: and what happened with BrandonC? It seems to be taking days...23:32
ObrienDaveBashing-om, not quite, it took me a while to remember all of the partitioning rules for MFT vs. GPT23:33
TJ-Loshki: The "*BAD* prefixes to the MTRR scans are simply reporting MTRR combinations that aren't applicable. It scans to ensure the firmware hasn't given the kernel a bad MTRR configuration.23:33
kuntwon1hey i wonder if u could join #bsdgeekclub23:33
LoshkiTJ-: so they're not a sign of any kind of RAM failure?23:34
ObrienDavechannel spammers, sheesh ;P23:34
TJ-Loshki: No, it is simply figuring out which MTRR combinations are valid23:35
zaltekkwell that's good to hear23:35
Bashing-omLoshki: BrandonC // Well, long story short, I got involved with it last eve, someone I guess ( or maybe he took it on his own) to (RE-)install, I got reinvolved with using GParted to set up manual partitions for the install. Now, we are awaiting BrandonC to do the install, as partitioning is done.23:35
zaltekkregardless, i'm at a bit of a loss on the forced kernel upgrade. i don't see anything online about it23:35
zaltekkjust the updated motd downloaded23:35
zaltekksaying that migration is being forced23:35
ObrienDavecoffee, brb23:36
TJ-zaltekk: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2014-July/000186.html23:36
zaltekkTJ-: thanks, couldn't find it on the website itself23:36
LoshkiBashing-om: well that's good progress actually. When we started, he wasn't even sure if the hardware was ok/23:37
TJ-zaltekk: I saw it on the lists when it was published :)23:37
zaltekkTJ-: i don't follow things that closely. i only use ubuntu at work where i don't have any choice in the matter23:37
zaltekkand i'm not a sysadmin23:37
Bashing-omLoshki: We still not 100% sure .. I had suggested a mem test overnight .. not heard if that test was done.23:38
zaltekkso that confirms downgrading back to 3.2 will be supported23:38
zaltekkwhich is good23:38
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TJ-zaltekk: The reason it came so late was Leann realised only in May, I think it was, that 12.04+HWE would be left in limb since there was no plan to go beyond 12.04.423:38
TJ-s/limb/limbo/23:38
Herr_Krisshello, I messed up my network config. I've rud ifup wlan0 and it sends messages like "DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7". The problem is... it's like in a loop, I don't know how to stop it from trying.23:39
Herr_KrissI've tried ctrl+c and nothing23:39
LoshkiTJ-: thanks for the education!23:40
Herr_Krisswoa, after 5 miuntes it ended23:40
zaltekkstrange that they link to a bug about the virtualbox dkms module not building23:40
zaltekkworks fine for me with 3.13. i just had to update-alternatives for gcc to 4.623:40
zaltekkwhich was also required for the 3.10 and 3.11 kernels too23:40
LoshkiHerr_Kriss: dhcclient is doing what it's supposed to: it's broadcasting DHCP discover packets trying to find a DHCP server, usually your router. It doesn't seem to be getting a reply, which is why it hangs, waiting...23:42
TJ-zaltekk: I'm wondering if some previous kernel-module options customisation in-place for the previous kernels is causing the current kernel to mis-map the audio hardware? Have you checked in "/etc/modprobe.d/" for any entries affecting HDA codec configuration?23:42
zaltekkTJ-: i don't recall ever setting anything up like that, but let me double check23:43
TJ-Loshki: If Herr_Kriss did use "ifup wlan0" and dhclient is sending on eth0, methinks that "/etc/network/interfaces" might be mis-configured23:43
zaltekkhmm. lots of stuff in alsa-base.conf23:43
zaltekklooks upstream though23:43
TJ-zaltekk: Just trying to think of why the kernel would totally lose sight of device 0:1b when that laptop is fully Ubuntu certified23:43
zaltekkTJ-: i'm sure it's related to running a much newer kernel23:44
LoshkiHerr_Kriss: TJ-: Oops. I missed that. TJ- is right. Herr_Kriss, what did you *change*...23:44
zaltekki don't see anything thought appears to be conflicting23:45
TJ-zaltekk: can you pastebin "sudo lspci -nnvvvk" ?23:45
zaltekkTJ-: http://codepad.org/OspmFweN23:46
jon-workhas 14.04.1 LTS been released?23:47
TJ-zaltekk: So the driver is loaded... which kernel version is that with "uname -r" ?23:47
zaltekk3.13.0-32-generic23:47
LoshkiI've asked this before & never got an answer. Can someone point me to a doc explaining the relationship between alsa, pavu, pulseaudio, from /dev to speaker...?23:48
TJ-zaltekk: also, did you capture the dmesg output directly, because it looks truncated. If you did, can you pastebin "/var/log/dmesg" so we have the complete output?23:49
zaltekkTJ-: i ran dmesg > asdf23:49
TJ-zaltekk: It looks truncated at line 96023:49
zaltekkTJ-: i'll paste again23:50
zaltekkhttp://codepad.org/EAB50rXg23:50
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TJ-zaltekk: same, looks truncated23:50
zaltekkthat's the file on disk23:50
zaltekkoh wait23:51
zaltekkcodepad is truncating it23:51
TJ-zaltekk: can you compare end of that output with "tail /var/log/dmesg" ?23:51
TJ-zaltekk: aha!23:51
zaltekklet me try pasting it somewhere else23:51
TJ-zaltekk: Try paste.ubuntu.com23:51
paulo_I have 3.13.0-24-generic kernel. Is there a way I can download the same version with debugging symbols? it's faster than recompiling23:51
zaltekk[   27.383346] init: resolvconffix main process ended, respawning23:51
zaltekkis the last line23:51
zaltekklooks like that got the whole file23:51
TJ-zaltekk: OK, 27 seconds in versus the codepad 3 seconds :)23:52
zaltekkhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7850528/23:52
TJ-paulo_: Yes, add the 'ddeb' (debug) package repositories to apt's configuration23:53
TJ-paulo_: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash#Debug_Symbol_Packages23:54
TJ-zaltekk: "21.200675] snd_hda_codec: module verification failed: signature and/or  required key missing - tainting kernel"23:54
zaltekkTJ-: that was the custom latest one23:55
zaltekkso i guess this dmesg isn't the stock module23:55
TJ-zaltekk: That shoudn't cause the issue, but it suggests the kernel module might be built from some external source, possibly DKMS package?23:55
zaltekkyeah, that's the oem alsa snapshot dkms package23:55
TJ-zaltekk: OK, that would make sense then23:55
zaltekki figured it was worth a shot23:55
TJ-zaltekk: "/var/log/dmesg"  is freshly written after each successful boot, by dumping dmesg, so this should be the current kernel boot23:57
zaltekkTJ-: right. i am still booted with the dkms one loaded23:59
Nimbleany ssh experts here?23:59
Nimbleis there a way I can set a user's shell to something that will keep the ssh connection going but not actually give them a shell?23:59

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