[00:01] <rapture> afternoon all. I'm trying to figure out how to create a .deb package of this: http://www.datastax.com/documentation/datastax_enterprise/4.5/datastax_enterprise/install/installSilent.html
[00:01] <rapture> do I install it and then create a .deb of the folder it installed to?
[00:03] <axp882> hi again :)
[00:04] <axp882> theacolyte are you still there?
[00:04] <NaSSiM> hello all
[00:05] <Kamuela> How do I install grub to the hard disk?
[00:05] <Kamuela> From within Ubuntu
[00:07] <BrandonC> k live cd is up
[00:07] <patrick-> hi
[00:08] <patrick-> off topic but is there trance or techno channels in freenode?
[00:08] <NaSSiM> anyone can help me decrypting a file name that i crypted using gpg
[00:08] <NaSSiM> i'm getting this error message : gpg backup.gpg
[00:08] <NaSSiM> gpg: processing message failed: eof
[00:08] <NaSSiM> and i can't decrypt the file
[00:09] <Loshki> BrandonC: ok, ready?
[00:09] <BrandonC> yup
[00:09] <Loshki> BrandonC: let's start by opening a terminal, sudo and apt-get install gparted if it's not already there
[00:10] <Loshki> BrandonC: let me know if I'm going too fast/slow
[00:10] <BrandonC> already newst version
[00:11] <Loshki> BrandonC: ok, start up gparted and lets have a look at your disks. In another window, can you pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l (that's a lower case ell!)
[00:11] <eeee> NaSSiM: gpg -d <filename> doesn't work?
[00:11] <noidea> patrick-: the only channel I have known of is #inyourbass . I believe there are in france. They usually have good suggestion on new tracks
[00:12] <noidea> they*
[00:12] <patrick-> noidea, ok thanis
[00:12] <patrick-> thanks*
[00:12] <NaSSiM> eeee yes i have the following error : gpg: decrypt_message failed: eof
[00:14] <BrandonC> Loshki, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7844702/
[00:14] <Loshki> patrick-: actually, I do see #austin (Austin - Technology, Music, and weirdness) but surely other servers offer more...
[00:15] <patrick-> ok
[00:15] <Bashing-om> Kamuela: "simple" re-install from within the actual install -> sudo grub-install /dev/sda <-, for example -  for the 1st hard drive.
[00:15] <BrandonC> gparted up
[00:16] <Loshki> BrandonC: anything in gparted that doesn't agree with fdisk output? If ok, time to fsck /dev/sda1
[00:17] <Loshki> BrandonC: and be sure it does a full check, use fsck -f if you need to.
[00:18] <Loshki> BrandonC: fsck running? I need to take 5...
[00:19] <BrandonC> go ahead
[00:19] <Kamuela> Bashing-om: thank you
[00:19] <BrandonC> ill google how to fsck
[00:21] <Bashing-om> Kamuela: :D ....... corrupted files might require (re-)installing grub from the liveDVD.
[00:24] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Quick way for file system check/repair -> sudo e2fsck -C0 -p -f -v /dev/sda1 , If errors then ->> sudo e2fsck -f -y -v /dev/sda1 <- .
[00:25] <Jeffrey_f> NaSSiM: Do you have the same private key as you had when you encrypted the file??
[00:26] <msx> hi! do any1 know what's the best way to log-out from the CLI - meaning 'best' for 'cleanest'?
[00:26] <msx> \
[00:26] <somsip> msx: CTRL D
[00:26] <Jeffrey_f> msx: exit usually works for me.
[00:27] <genii> msx: If you have external drives that have been doing transfers, maybe sudo sync first.
[00:27] <msx> somsip: Jeffrey_f hi, I apologize for now explaining myself in a better way, I mean log out from the current session, not the terminal!
[00:27] <BrandonC> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7844743/ Loshki
[00:28] <msx> genii: hi, yes, that's why I was asking for a clean way and not just a lightdm restart or sudo reboot
[00:29] <genii> msx: The sudo reboot or sudo shutdown -r now will usually do the required stuff needed for clean exit
[00:31] <msx> genii: yes, but at a system-level, that command will force-close any running application, I guess there should be a prettier way to do that sending first a SIGTERM to all running apps so they can quit safely
[00:31] <msx> *that command will _otherwise_
[00:32] <msx> genii: somsip Jeffrey_f: gnome-session-quit --help  <--- i think this will do it
[00:33] <TheKernel-work> is there a recommended ftp server to install onto ubuntu 14.04 with instructions? proftpd seems to have passive issues and vsftpd just will not run...
[00:36] <Ali_M_Ahmed> f
[00:36] <guest-lucas> hi, some menus, launchers, etc. have commands followed by a percent sign and a letter... I can't find what they mean. For example, what's the difference between executing "firefox", and "firefox %u"? Thanks
[00:36] <Ali_M_Ahmed> sorry
[00:45] <Loshki> BrandonC: still there? Your fsck looks fine, which means your hardware is good. Let's sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt and look around...
[00:46] <BrandonC> Loshki, k
[00:47] <xtriz> in /usr/share/doc only info related to bug fixing and a packages are stored ?
[00:47] <funnyboy243> What is it like in there?
[00:48] <Loshki> xtriz: pretty much anything that could be called documentation for an application goes in there...
[00:49] <funnyboy243> I think my brain is still partly damaged when Mindy's ass sucked it up because I don't get how that relates to gt.
[00:49] <Loshki> funnyboy243: wrong channel...
[00:49] <funnyboy243> Can you please play with me, ?
[00:50] <BrandonC> Loshki, done
[00:50] <funnyboy243> Do you prefer books or TV?
[00:51] <Loshki> BrandonC: first, lets have a look at /mnt/var/log/Xorg.0.log or similar. Look for "error" etc.
[00:51] <funnyboy243> Tell me more about your . Can you show me a pic of it?
[00:52] <Loshki> !ops please show funnyboy243 the error of his ways
[00:52] <funnyboy243> Where is that?
[00:53] <IdleOne> funnyboy243: If you're in the mood for chatting please join #ubuntu-offtopic. This channel is only for Ubuntu support questions
[00:53] <funnyboy243> I think there might be a few exception. What does "this" refer to?
[00:53] <noidea> What is another way to bring up a second NIC. ifup tells me ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1. I know i have done this before, i just had to restart the system and have forgotten
[00:54] <funnyboy243> Would you like to know more? By the way, do you mind if I ask you a personal question? Where? What does "this" refer to?
[00:55] <Vivekananda_y510> hey everyone
[00:55] <Vivekananda_y510> hey everyone. I have a wifi lan and trying to figure out 1. what is my average internal lan speed  2. How much time should it take for 1 gig file to transfer from ubuntu 12.04 on the wifi to me on windows 8.1 on the wifi. Can someone help . The program lan speed test gave me this  : http://imgur.com/AzgRJH6  on windows 8.1 . Now how should I proceed on windows machine ?
[00:56] <funnyboy243> You've got my full attention. All people?
[00:56] <ObrienDave> *no feeding trolls*
[00:56] <funnyboy243> Are you serious? Let us change the subject.
[00:56] <17SAAK7LQ> I need a webcam emulator so I can add it to my android virtual machine
[00:56] <xtriz> Loshki, ok :)
[00:56] <funnyboy243> Why do you need it so badly?
[00:57] <BrandonC> Loshki, so im in mnt var log and dont see anything like that
[00:59] <Vivekananda_y510> I will wait please feel to respond if someone can point me in the right direction.
[00:59] <funnyboy240> Do you think your plan will succeed?
[01:02] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Should be there ! what returns from -> ls -la /mnt/var/log/Xorg.0.log <- ??
[01:02] <funnyboy240> What were we talking about again? Are you using Netscape or Explorer?
[01:03] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: what's the end goal here? you want to know the speed in MB/sec (megabytes per second) if your wireless adapter?
[01:03] <funnyboy240> What else is the end goal here? Yes, please tell me.
[01:05] <daftykins> funnyboy240: please leave.
[01:05] <funnyboy240> Who is your favorite color for a Torlet?
[01:06] <marya> hi
[01:06] <funnyboy240> Hello there.
[01:09] <daftykins> IdleOne: i believe it's time to escort our friend off the premises, if you could please
[01:09] <daftykins> or at least +q
[01:09] <funnyboy240> Your polite style is very nice. And time to escort our friend off the premises if me could is IdleOne you believe it.
[01:09] <daftykins> bot.
[01:09] <funnyboy240> Nope, but you are.
[01:09] <BrandonC> Bashing-om,  thats Xorg.zero.log right?
[01:10] <funnyboy240> I think Bashing om that is a lot of things.
[01:10] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: correct. Xorg.zero.log
[01:10] <funnyboy240> So Andy Rothfusz, what do you like to do for fun when you're bored? Let us change the subject.
[01:11] <Vivekananda_y510> daftykins, my aim is to know the speed then find out what I get when I transfer a big file ( taking 40 mins for a file of 1.5 gig size) and then see if this is good or if my internal speed is very less than expected
[01:11] <BrandonC> no such fileor direectory
[01:11] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: what wireless standard are your wireless adapters and your access point / router?
[01:12] <Vivekananda_y510> I am not very sure supposedly an N router
[01:12] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, i have teamview set up if you wana remote connect
[01:12] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Unusual ?? .. ok, what about -> ls -la /mnt <- let's see if the mount exists.
[01:12] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: do you have a make and model?
[01:12] <Vivekananda_y510> is there a way I can figure it out on the machine ? ie ubuntu
[01:12] <Vivekananda_y510> I guess
[01:12] <Vivekananda_y510> one sec lemme get that
[01:13] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, list of folder/files
[01:13] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: yeah more than likely there'd be a wireless status command, or looking at network manager's information on the active connection
[01:14] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: OK, then, -> ls -la /mnt/var/log/kern.log <- . see if that log file exists.
[01:15] <Vivekananda_y510> daftykins, the router is linksys wgr614 v9
[01:15] <17SAAK7LQ> ever since an update I can't rearrange my unity icons, can someone help?
[01:16] <Vivekananda_y510> but how does that help ? I mean from the image output I pasted what do you expect the wifi lan speed to be ?
[01:16] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, no such file
[01:16] <Vivekananda_y510> ie ideally how long should it take for a 2 gig file to be transferred ? http://imgur.com/AzgRJH6 daftykins
[01:17] <Foxhoundz> wpa_supplicant keeps disconnecting with ioctl[SIOCSIWFREQ]: Device or resource busy
[01:17] <Foxhoundz> this is the command I supplied sudo wpa_supplicant -Dwext -iwlan0 -c/home/nuc/wpa.conf
[01:17] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: lol, hang on... let's start with the facts. can you also identify your wireless adapters on both these PCs? or is only one wireless?
[01:17] <Foxhoundz> Please help
[01:17] <ObrienDave> Vivekananda_y510, according to your image, you can read it in 1.25 seconds. i dont really believe that for a second (pun intended)
[01:18] <Vivekananda_y510> ObrienDave, the sample file size was 20 mbs or 50 mbs only not 1.5 gigs if that is what you meant
[01:18] <Loshki> Bashing-om: BrandonC: it's not clear if the install completed satisfactorily. But now we know the hardware is good. Frankly, I'd do a from-scratch reinstall using 12.04 and see if that works...
[01:18] <BrandonC> this is from live cd
[01:18] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: ok so that router is IEEE 802.11g only, that's 54Mb/sec *including* the MAC layer. the best i've ever seen over wifi from a wired host to a wireless host was ~3MB/sec with WPA2
[01:18] <BrandonC> no install
[01:19] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: that equates to 24Mb/sec (megabits per second)
[01:19] <luke__> whoami
[01:19] <Vivekananda_y510> daftykins, assuming that speed how long will it take to transfer 2 gig file
[01:19] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: are both your systems wireless?
[01:19] <ObrienDave> Vivekananda_y510, your image says you can write 1,744,659,254 Bytes per second. that i don't believe
[01:20] <Loshki> BrandonC: I thought you'd tried to install 14.04 and it wouldn't come up?
[01:20] <daftykins> i agree with ObrienDave - that program is rubbish
[01:20] <Vivekananda_y510> ObrienDave, ok
[01:20] <BrandonC> Loshki, ya
[01:20] <BrandonC> Loshki> BrandonC: A new cable can't hurt. I'd like a chance to poke around with the live cd if you try again...
[01:21] <Vivekananda_y510> daftykins, yes both are wireless. The ubuntu 12.04 is a lenovo T61  and the windows 8.1 is a lenovo y510p
[01:21] <ObrienDave> Vivekananda_y510, now, if it's a 10Gbs wired connection, i would believe that number, almost
[01:21] <EsoRotica> My T61 sure wouldn ever pull that fast.
[01:21] <EsoRotica> Not by a long shot.
[01:22] <Vivekananda_y510> ObrienDave, I agree with you that it is too much. I just looked up the program and posted its results assuming it would help in getting to the root of my problem :)
[01:22] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: wireless to wireless with good signal you're not going to see more than 2MB/sec which would make the answer 1024 seconds = 17 minutes
[01:22] <Vivekananda_y510> EsoRotica, I did the speed measure from the windows 8.1 lenovo y510p. the T61 has ubuntu
[01:23] <Loshki> BrandonC: and now we've poked around we know your hardware is working & your disks look fine. I don't know what went wrong with your install attempt. What do you plan to do next?
[01:23] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: what's the 'problem' then?
[01:23] <EsoRotica> Either way, your result shows 1.744625 GBps
[01:23] <Vivekananda_y510> daftykins, so a 2gig file on an average should take 17 mins correct ? Now the problem is my laptops are taking 40 to 45 mins for the transfer
[01:23] <Vivekananda_y510> I am wondering if this is just a signal issue or is there something I can do to make this transfer faster
[01:23] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: are they in the same room as the router? no walls?
[01:24] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: you really ought to install something that will gauge the speed a lot better than this.
[01:24] <Vivekananda_y510> no router is one wall separated and around 12 metres away
[01:24] <Vivekananda_y510> daftykins, sure point me to something for ubuntu and I will try right away
[01:24] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: if you installed apache on the windows box, shared a huge file, then used the ubuntu one to wget that file, you'll see realtime stats
[01:25] <daftykins> an FTP server on the windows box would also achieve the same thing
[01:25] <daftykins> or sharing a folder in Windows then accessing it via the ubuntu laptop
[01:25] <daftykins> watching the file copy stats
[01:25] <Vivekananda_y510> daftykins, i have apache on the windows box but I guess I will have to port forward or something to access it from the linux is it ?
[01:25] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: no because you're both on the same LAN... "wget http://IP of windows box/hugefile.ext"
[01:26] <Bashing-om> Loshki: BrandonC // No harm in trying to (RE-)install ... still with that "Partition outside the disk detected." have not figured that one out yet. What we might do is make a new partition table with GParted, in the install process - DO NOT - check 3rd party software" or "install updates while installing:// old ATI graphics card with no vendor support, and we can update the system after install completes.
[01:26] <Vivekananda_y510> daftykins, I tried it the other way round ie I shared a folder on samba on ubuntu and then tried copying over on windows and was getting 40 50 mints expected for 1.6 gb file :(
[01:26] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: uh-huh and what speed did windows report? also bear in mind the task manager in Windows has the network utilisation tab
[01:26] <BrandonC> i have gparted up still in live
[01:27] <Vivekananda_y510> daftykins, that is what it said ie 50 mins for 1.6 gb file
[01:27] <Vivekananda_y510> I forget the speed
[01:27] <Vivekananda_y510> can try again though
[01:27] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: exactly ;) give it another go.
[01:27] <Vivekananda_y510> okay one sec
[01:27] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: ultimately you're coming up against one of the most blatant laws of wireless networking - it's crap.
[01:28] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: cables are lovely.
[01:28] <grobe0ba> that, and SMB throughput is always going to be crap
[01:28] <grobe0ba> it's a crap protocol with a lot of overhead
[01:28] <BrandonC> what should i do in gparted?
[01:28] <daftykins> not true.
[01:28] <Loshki> Bashing-om: BrandonC: "Partition outside the disk detected."? I missed that bit. I agree. Wipe the disk, repartition, and install...
[01:29] <Vivekananda_y510> averaging 700 800 kBps
[01:29] <Loshki> BrandonC: there's nothing of importance on the disk, right?
[01:29] <Vivekananda_y510> 45 mins expected for file 1.5 gigs
[01:29] <BrandonC> correct
[01:29] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: now try again with both laptops in the same room as the router several metres apart
[01:29] <daftykins> so they form a V
[01:29] <daftykins> or more like an L
[01:30] <Vivekananda_y510> umm that would be tough to do right now but I see your poing
[01:30] <Vivekananda_y510> can do it later in the night
[01:30] <daftykins> why-so?
[01:30] <BrandonC> i dont know what to do in gparted. i have installed teamviewer if one of you wants to connect remotly
[01:30] <Vivekananda_y510> people , guests around I am working in my room
[01:30] <Vivekananda_y510> :) social stuff kind of thing
[01:30] <amineee> Hello I need some help I can't boot any more i get unable to find device error then i drop to easybox shell I am booted live from a cd when i try to mount the hard drive i get error msg so  i assume it's a prob with it what shld  i do i have some inportant files any help please ?
[01:30] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: ok so it's a house with shared wireless too? how many devices on the network wirelessly?
[01:31] <genoobie> TJ-, hey
[01:31] <TJ-> genoobie: Ooops :)
[01:31] <daftykins> amineee: what's the error?
[01:31] <Vivekananda_y510> umm currently none active but a total of 4 laptops and 3 phones on it
[01:31] <Vivekananda_y510> including 2 of mine
[01:31] <Vivekananda_y510> laptops
[01:31] <genoobie> I know it was totally an accident
[01:31] <genoobie> didn't have time to fix mistake
[01:31] <amineee> daftykins: Unable to mount 358 GB Filesystem Error mounting: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,        missing codepage or helper program, or other error        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try        dmesg | tail  or so
[01:31] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: ok, well as long as the other laptops aren't pushing masses of data by e.g. downloading or torrenting or something equally 'noisy' in terms of the wireless
[01:32] <genoobie> TJ-, anyhow the syslog is too long for pastebin
[01:32] <daftykins> amineee: are you typing from this live session right now?
[01:32] <amineee> yep
[01:32] <daftykins> amineee: ok is the live session of 14.04 ubuntu media?
[01:32] <Vivekananda_y510> btw the time to tranfer settled down to 28 minutes and that is not sooo bad. But still I always thought we had come a long way since old days and now the data tranfer on wifi is much closer to the usb 2.0 or something but apparently it is not
[01:32] <TJ-> genoobie: OK... how many lines does it have? "wc -l /var/log/syslog" ?
[01:32] <daftykins> amineee: "cat /etc/issue"
[01:33] <amineee> daftykins: nope it's a 12.04 cd i found
[01:33] <genoobie> TJ-, hang a sec
[01:33] <genoobie> there is something strange
[01:33] <Loshki> BrandonC: I have to go eat dinner :-). Basically, you want to delete all existing partitions and start again, allocate a 10GB partition for /, allocate swap same size as ram, the rest is /home. http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gparted.html
[01:33] <genoobie> when I did the iwlist wlan0 freq there are eleven channels
[01:33] <genoobie> but my router has 13
[01:34] <BrandonC> i only have 1 gig of ddr
[01:34] <Vivekananda_y510> daftykins, my only so called 'problem' was to figure out if there is something in the systems themselves or something in between connecting a windows to a ubuntu that can bottleneck the transfer speed. If so what and how to lessen it
[01:34] <daftykins> amineee: ok that's alright, give me 5 mins then i can assist more, just need to take care of something. although if you can run in the terminal "dmesg | tail" then paste it to paste.ubuntu.com we can see what happened with that mount
[01:34] <genoobie> TJ-, 13219 lines in syslog
[01:34] <Loshki> BrandonC: or just install 12.04 LTS, since it's the most stable all the releases currently out there...
[01:34] <amineee> ok Will do thnx for your time :)
[01:34] <Lost_x> hello guys. even in linux environment (ubuntu) we can not more than 4 partitions in a single physical drive?
[01:34] <BrandonC> Loshki, cant i remove all partitions and let ubuntu cd do it?
[01:35] <daftykins> Vivekananda_y510: i'm pretty sure you're just up against a rubbish old router trying to do something with 802.11g that it just can't achieve
[01:35] <TJ-> genoobie: That's why I wanted to see the pastebin of the 'iwlist wlan0 freq' output
[01:35] <Lost_x> hello guys. even in linux environment (ubuntu) we can not creaete more than 4 partitions in a single physical drive?
[01:35] <Loshki> BrandonC: ubuntu cd should do it all for you, I just don't trust 14.04 is all....
[01:35] <genoobie> TJ-, I can do that pastebin in a sec\
[01:35] <Lost_x> here's the image http://ibin.co/1UMx7Y0GRHhy
[01:35] <TJ-> genoobie: Let's also see the last 750 lines of syslog. If you have it hooked up on the Ethernet cable you can do "tail -n 750 /var/log/syslog | pastebinit"
[01:36] <awesomess3> Loshki, but you can trust 10.04 because its code name is "Trusty Tahr"
[01:36] <awesomess3> *14.04
[01:36] <TJ-> but you can't trust your fingers :p
[01:36] <Vivekananda_y510> daftykins, yeah it is an old one but I am trying to figure out the available and the expected speed for that router itself and not for some standard or high performance router
[01:36] <genoobie> TJ-, here's the link for wlan freq
[01:36] <genoobie> http://pastebin.com/fCxpN53Z
[01:36] <TJ-> genoobie: thanks :)
[01:36] <Bashing-om> Lost_x: Yepper, in the 'legacy' - MBR - partitioning scheme ... EFI (UEFI) a whole new ball game.
[01:37] <ly_> 这是中文社区么？
[01:37] <Loshki> awesomess3: it's a dot-oh release. These things never change. History says it won't be bullet proof until around 14.04.4...
[01:37] <spjt> Lost_x: it looks like you can have up to 64k partitions using LVM
[01:37] <genoobie> TJ-, here's the last 750 of syslog
[01:37] <genoobie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7844974/
[01:38] <amineee> daftykins: I got the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/7844970/ whenever you're free ping me :)
[01:38] <TJ-> genoobie: That's what I'd expect to see for the US region ... 11 x 802.11g 20MHz channels... but from the dmesg output it shows the adapter should also be seeing 40MHz HT channels... if your router is operating in 802.11gn mode with 40 Mhz channels, this could be the cause
[01:38] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: With GParted just make sure that you are messing about with 'sda' .. I would think just choosing the option "new" from the "devices' menu option -> msdos ; should suffice. Then yeah, let the install wizard make up the install.
[01:39] <daftykins> amineee: oh dear, that doesn't look good. what happened prior to this issue? did you do any upgrades or did it just happen when you came to switch your computer on one day?
[01:40] <BrandonC> ya im looking around. its wierd
[01:40] <genoobie> TJ-, no, I think there's another issue
[01:40] <genoobie> I was looking at the syslong
[01:40] <microm> what do I do with this in precise -> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/cups_1.5.3-0ubuntu8.4_amd64.deb
[01:40] <TJ-> genoobie: Got it! "rfkill: WLAN hard blocked" ... your hardware radio kill switch is in the "on" position
[01:40] <tracphil> how is iptables getting loaded with rules on 14.04? ufw is disabled.
[01:41] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Take your time .. the help files in GParted will help a lot .. sparse but accurate info.
[01:41] <TJ-> genoobie: Check with: "rfkill list all"
[01:41] <awesomess3> microm, we only support versions: 10.04 LTS (server), 12.04 LTS, and 14.04 LTS
[01:41] <genoobie> but I put the ath5k no_hw_rfkill_switch=1 in the ath5k.conf file
[01:41] <amineee>  @ daftykins : well i experienced some freezes but it's an old machine i am getting a new one in a few days i just want to know if there is any way to get some data out of the drive
[01:42] <daftykins> amineee: ok, lets see if there's something up with the disk to start with then
[01:42] <awesomess3> Loshki, I didn't get the greatest luck with 13.10 either, which is a dot-one release I guess.
[01:42] <genoobie> 1: phy0: Wireless Lan
[01:42] <genoobie> nothing blocked
[01:42] <TJ-> genoobie: I know, but what does "rfkill list all" report? Is the Wifi phy blocked?
[01:42] <daftykins> amineee: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install smartmontools" first please
[01:42] <genoobie> nope
[01:42] <TJ-> genoobie: both hard and soft say "no" ?
[01:42] <genoobie> but I may have manually unblocked it by unloading / reloading ath5k driver
[01:43] <daftykins> amineee: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" also, followed by "smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit" which should give you a link to paste here
[01:43] <TJ-> genoobie: lets get this issue resolved first, there is no point trying other things until we're sure the RF kill is not enabled
[01:43] <amineee> daftykins: ok will get back to you ASAP
[01:43] <daftykins> good stuff :)
[01:44] <microm> awesomess3: oh, I thought precise pangolin was in the 12.04 LTS series.
[01:44] <genoobie> TJ-, presently both hard and soft say no
[01:44] <TJ-> genoobie: OK... I'm reading to the end of the syslog ... if it was enabled later I should see that
[01:45] <TJ-> genoobie: aha! "<info> WiFi now enabled by radio killswitch"
[01:45] <genoobie> ok
[01:45] <TJ-> genoobie: OK, let me do some more digging here, for more tests you can do
[01:46] <awesomess3> microm, based on the name of the cups package I assumed the release on hand was 8.*
[01:47] <linux> hello
[01:47] <linux> dddd
[01:47] <daftykins> hello.
[01:48] <linux> what are you doing ?
[01:48] <Lost_x> Bashing-om, spjt, i noticed that when i install win7 the system reserved drive it created is also partition...
[01:48] <almostworking> microm: percise is 12.04 LTS for ubuntu....... Mint 17 is based on te 14.4 buntu LTS
[01:48] <Lost_x> Bashing-om, spjt, i'm burning ubuntu 14.04lts 64bit iso... maybe this will resolve
[01:48] <daftykins> linux: i'm about to ask you to ask an ubuntu support question, else please visit #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat :)
[01:48] <linux> OK
[01:49] <genoobie> TJ-, lanox seemed to think it may have something to do with Network manager
[01:49] <ses1984> hey, sorry if this is a dumb quesiton: i've generated a pgp key in the passwords and keys program...how do i get out the public key so i can share it?
[01:49] <almostworking> oh man, im in wrong channel,  LOL
[01:49] <microm> almostworking: I use mint 13
[01:49] <TJ-> genoobie: I see no evidence of that, NM has *nothing* to do with running "iwlist wlan0 scan"
[01:49] <patrick-> noidea, i know im off topic again but...
[01:49] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, how's it going?
[01:50] <genoobie> gotcha
[01:50] <patrick-> noidea, is there a dating site thats free ? i got this dating program on my iphone but it charges again money
[01:50] <patrick-> lol
[01:50] <daftykins> patrick-: don't say it then.
[01:50] <daftykins> patrick-: not interested, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[01:50] <almostworking> microm:  i see, far as i know min 13, is based on ubuntu 12   ( i use ubuntu 122 on primary desktop macine(
[01:50] <Lost_x> ObrienDate, burning ubuntu 14.04lts 64bit iso... maybe this will resolve
[01:50] <patrick-> ok
[01:50] <patrick-> sorry
[01:51] <Lost_x> where can we find an irc client in ubuntu?
[01:51] <genoobie> ObrienDave, just installed 14, make sure atheros is not your wireless card
[01:51] <genoobie> :)
[01:51] <Bashing-om> Lost_x: Best I recall, the issue from last night was GPT partitions and no EFI boot partition ?? ( I have slept since then ) . We want to boot up in UEFI mode and install Windows 7 1st, and still in UEFI mode install ubuntu ... correct ?
[01:51] <genoobie> Lost_x, synaptic
[01:51] <genoobie> Lost_x, xhcat is pretty good
[01:51] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, use tab to auto complete nicks after typing in 3 or 4 characters
[01:51] <amineee> daftykins: while installing the first package smartmontools i left the default configuration .. but when i tried installing the pastebinit it returned an unable to locate package error .. any way i manually paste it  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7845020/
[01:51] <Lost_x> do we need to download it or it is included in the OS?
[01:52] <genoobie> probably included
[01:52] <genoobie> synaptic
[01:52] <ObrienDave> Bashing-om, yes, that is correct
[01:52] <blueingress> Lost_x, irssi is good enough
[01:52] <daftykins> amineee: ah my apologies, that should be "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda"
[01:52] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, you'll like HexChat much better
[01:53] <Lost_x> when ubunto is installed who is the super user/admin?
[01:53] <Bashing-om> ObrienDave: Lost_x :: OK, my head is on now ... here we go ...
[01:53] <amineee> daftykins:  :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/7845032/
[01:53] <TJ-> genoobie: Can you do "for c in power txpower event modu scan; do sudo iwlist wlan0 $c; done | pastebinit" ?
[01:54] <sargas> can I install linux-headers-3.11.0-19-generic  on Ubuntu 14.04?
[01:54] <daftykins> amineee: yes that disk has failed and is going to get worse
[01:55] <Lost_x> done burning the iso and its now verifying the disc.... i think we are good to go....
[01:55] <daftykins> amineee: you can see from the values on lines 194 and 204 which are what i used to come to this conclusion
[01:55] <genoobie> TJ-, there's also something in dmesg about IPv6 wlan0 is not ready
[01:55] <TJ-> genoobie: entirely expected :)
[01:55] <amineee> daftykins: I see ..  so should i take it to some it gut who can physicly do something and try to get me those data ?
[01:55] <genoobie> and something about can't disable ASPM
[01:56] <daftykins> amineee: we could try to do something to get some data off there, but you'd need another drive to copy that data to... do you have another?
[01:56] <genoobie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7845038/
[01:56] <genoobie> TJ-, that's the output
[01:56] <amineee> daftykins: I have a usb stick will that do ?
[01:56] <daftykins> amineee: it depends on the size of your data really, do you have a lot on there? Pictures/Music/etc?
[01:57] <genoobie> TJ-, why does it say  "current mode: off"
[01:57] <amineee> daftykins:  nah just some work files .. it will fit in it
[01:57] <TJ-> genoobie: because the interface isn't in use
[01:58] <daftykins> amineee: could you also pastebin "sudo fdisk -l" please?
[01:58] <TJ-> genoobie: OK, that all looks as expected
[01:59] <Bashing-om> Lost_x: OK, ! Ya did boot up the operating system in "UEFI" mode and (RE-)installed Windows & ... right ? so now we will install ubuntu 14.04 ... correct ?
[01:59] <TJ-> genoobie: (except that there are no scan results). ASPM is PCIe Advanced State Power Management.
[01:59] <genoobie> TJ-, I have a question
[01:59] <amineee> daftykins: -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7845044/
[01:59] <TJ-> genoobie: fire away?
[01:59] <sargas> can I install linux-headers-3.11.0-19-generic  on Ubuntu 14.04?
[01:59] <genoobie> I did a modprobe -rvf ath5k and it took out cfg80211, mac80211, ath, ath5k
[01:59] <sargas> can I install 3.11.0-19-generic kernel  on Ubuntu 14.04?
[02:00] <genoobie> when I did modprobe -v ath5k listed also was ath
[02:00] <genoobie> is it possible that it's using ath and ath5k
[02:00] <genoobie> if so is that a problem?
[02:01] <genoobie> oh nm, I think ath5k depends on ath
[02:01] <TJ-> genoobie: ath5k depends on all those other modules
[02:01] <genoobie> TJ-, this is baffling
[02:01] <ObrienDave> Bashing-om, i think i had Lost_x turn off fast boot mode
[02:01] <Lost_x> Bashing-om: its already in uefi mode
[02:02] <eligrey> can anyone suggest an ubuntu-compatible 2x2 802.11ac usb adapter?
[02:02] <Bashing-om> Lost_x: ObrienDave Let's boot to the installer then, see what ubiguity now sees for install options ! -- looking for - install along side !
[02:03] <ObrienDave> eligrey, anyone but broadcom
[02:03] <daftykins> amineee: ok, if you know a Linux expert that can help you'd probably be better off popping by them - but if the data isn't *deadly important* then you can give it a try repairing the disk enough to mount it again. if so, try running "sudo fsck -y /dev/sda1"
[02:03] <TJ-> genoobie: Can you do "sudo apt-get install fwts" and then "cd $HOME && sudo fwts aspm && pastebinit result.log"
[02:03] <ObrienDave> Bashing-om, that is the option we could NOT find last night
[02:03] <genoobie> TJ-, what do you think of this?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2160177 about midway through the page there's a suggestion of uninstalling / reinstalling firmware
[02:03] <eligrey> ObrienDave: any you would suggest specifically?
[02:03] <ObrienDave> eligrey, sorry, no. mine is built in
[02:04] <eligrey> ok
[02:04] <ObrienDave> eligrey, oh, and NO Belkins
[02:04] <genoobie> actually it's toward the bottom of the page
[02:04] <amineee> daftykins:  i think i'll take my chances :D is there a 10% success chance ?
[02:04] <eligrey> gotcha
[02:04] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: do we need to turn on the fast mode or just leave it disabled?
[02:04] <genoobie> TJ-, do you still want me to do those commands
[02:05] <TJ-> genoobie: Yes please
[02:05] <genoobie> okay
[02:05] <genoobie> on it
[02:05] <ObrienDave> i would like to try with fast boot off. Bashing-om, what do you think?
[02:05] <TJ-> genoobie: If there was missing firmware the kernel log (dmesg, syslog) would tell us
[02:05] <daftykins> amineee: i really couldn't say, so proceed with caution as if you don't care about never seeing the files again ;)
[02:05] <genoobie> TJ-, what is fwts?
[02:06] <Bashing-om> Okaria: Lost_x Agreed, we want fast boot turned off ( Seems that is a hibernation mode for Windows, and realy messes up booting ubuntu !).
[02:06]  * fsdfs OUT!
[02:06] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, ok, let's give it a go!
[02:07] <TJ-> genoobie: firmware test suite
[02:07] <mkrz> hello #ubuntu. I get 'low disk space in filesystem root' warning all the time. what do?
[02:07] <TJ-> genoobie: allows us to check out the motherboard's ASPM support
[02:07] <genoobie> okay
[02:07] <amineee> daftykins: that didn't take long .. should i pastebin the output ?
[02:07] <daftykins> amineee: sure
[02:07] <rasel> hellow...
[02:07] <TJ-> genoobie: Also, whilst we're at it "sudo lspci -nnvvvk | pastebinit" :)
[02:08] <amineee> daftykins: ah my mistake it's still runnning  .. ''Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes Pass 2: Checking directory structure ''
[02:08] <genoobie> TJ-, you got it
[02:08] <Lost_x> ok,,, reinstalling win7. we are back to 0
[02:08] <rasel> anyone know bengali??
[02:08] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, cool, give us a holler when done
[02:08] <genoobie> TJ-, here is the lspci output http://paste.ubuntu.com/7845065/
[02:09] <mkrz> yes i know bengali
[02:09] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, back in 20 minutes or so
[02:09] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: How ya doing ? .. found the means to remake the partition table in GParted ?
[02:09] <mkrz> how do i increase diskspace on root file system?
[02:10] <Bashing-om> Lost_x: Not al all, look at all we have learned ... kept us out of jail !
[02:10] <genii> mkrz: You can reduce the amount of space allocated to superuser with tune2fs
[02:10] <xangua> mkrz: backup and increase it from a live session
[02:11] <amineee> daftykins: on another topic .. I have a usb stick with deleted(i think even formated) files any recommended recovery tool ?
[02:11] <genoobie> that fwts is a pretty extensive pkg
[02:11] <xangua>  !recover
[02:11] <advx_> Hello All, Good Morning, Have a great day....
[02:12] <daftykins> amineee: do you know what file system it had?
[02:12] <TJ-> genoobie: I've just confirmed on the ath5k driver dev's site: "This driver requires no firmware or binary-only HAL!"
[02:12] <mkrz> genii,xangua: thanks. i'll check them out.
[02:12] <advx_> Help: Calling CRDA to update world regulatory domain?? keeps coming in log every ~4-10 seconds.....??
[02:12] <genoobie> well there you have it then
[02:13] <amineee> daftykins: it has fat i think the one windows use
[02:13] <advx_> already set country to mine country code...
[02:13] <genoobie> I mean if I had an old laptop kicking around I'd grab the mini-pci and trash this one
[02:13] <amineee> thnx xangua :)
[02:13] <daftykins> amineee: hrmm did it get a quick format or a full format?
[02:14] <amineee> quick
[02:14] <daftykins> that's lucky then
[02:14] <mkrz> xangua: the automatic backup with suffice? and what's a live session. do i have to select something while boot-up?
[02:14] <mkrz> will*
[02:14] <daftykins> amineee: i know windows utilities but i've not done it with Linux, perhaps testdisk is worth a go - i wouldn't do it at the same time as your current task though :D
[02:14] <daftykins> mkrz: live = booting from ubuntu USB/DVD
[02:15] <genoobie> TJ-, the sudo fwts aspm command did not return a url
[02:15] <mkrz> daftykins: aah ok
[02:15] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: Bashing-om: are we installing ubuntu alongisde windows? or may be can install windows in "something else"?
[02:15] <genoobie> cd $HOME && sudo fwts aspm && pastebinit result.log
[02:15] <genoobie> 2 passed, 4 warnings
[02:16] <amineee> daftykins:  I'll have to wait then :D what are the names of these utilities please ?
[02:16] <TJ-> genoobie: did you pipe it to pastebinit ?
[02:16] <daftykins> amineee: windows ones?
[02:16] <amineee> daftykins:  yes please
[02:16] <genoobie> what is the way to pastebinit?
[02:17] <daftykins> amineee: "getdataback for FAT" is one i've had success with
[02:17] <Bashing-om> Lost_x: Like this, we "can" install 'something else', but we do want the advanced partitioning scheme and the ease of installation for ubuntu from " install along side" option.
[02:17] <TJ-> genoobie: ignore me, I'm getting confused :) "fwts aspm" should have created the file "result.txt" in the current directory, which pastebinit should send... maybe that file wasn't created where I expected
[02:17] <amineee> daftykins:  ok i'll give it a try .. the repairing finished .. /dev/sda1: ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED ***** /dev/sda1: 318736/21848064 files (0.3% non-contiguous), 7085123/87385856 blocks
[02:17] <genoobie> TJ-, result(s).log
[02:18] <TJ-> genoobie: "pastebinit results.log"  - I missed off the 's' :)
[02:18] <genoobie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7845094/
[02:18] <genoobie> :)
[02:18] <TJ-> genoobie: you can tell its gone 3am !
[02:18] <amineee> daftykins:  those are the last two lines of the output ..
[02:18] <genoobie> There's not much here either only 2 hours of sleep
[02:19] <genoobie> nothing stands out there either
[02:19] <daftykins> amineee: "sudo mkdir /mnt/drive && sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sda1 /mnt/drive"
[02:19] <Lost_x> Bashing-om:  ok. installing win7 now...
[02:20] <TJ-> genoobie: nothing out of place in the fwts results
[02:20] <amineee> daftykins:  didn't give back an error msg .. good news i hope ?
[02:20] <laughingtiger> linux is an angel, thus windows is the demon.
[02:21] <daftykins> amineee: indeed! "ls /mnt/drive"
[02:21] <daftykins> amineee: "ls /mnt/drive/home/<your username here>/"
[02:21] <amineee> daftykins:  yeah i am browsing the files :D THANK YOU :D
[02:21] <daftykins> no problem :)
[02:22] <laughingtiger> Windows corrupts people
[02:22] <amineee> is ther ea way to give you a star or sth ! :p
[02:22] <genoobie> TJ-, my work laptop has a wireless card...
[02:22] <genoobie> nah nevermind
[02:22] <genoobie> TJ-, what about madwifi?
[02:22] <daftykins> amineee: haha, nope - i get by on the good feeling of assistance and success alone \o/
[02:22] <TJ-> genoobie: I was about to ask, do you have another PC that *can* connect to the Access Point, that we could use to compare wifi results
[02:23] <daftykins> amineee: just make sure you get that data off there and consider that drive completely toast, it's only fit for giving away to electronics recycling now
[02:23] <genoobie> TJ-, yes
[02:23] <genoobie> running the same OS
[02:23] <genoobie> different card
[02:23] <TJ-> genoobie: That'd be fab! I want to see what that reports for "sudo iwlist wlan0 scan"
[02:23] <genoobie> okay hold a sec
[02:24] <genoobie> TJ-, what was the apt-get install pastebinit?
[02:24] <amineee> daftykins: Thank you again .. will give it away tmrw ..  Any recommandations for my new laptop :p
[02:24] <genoobie> same OS, same version
[02:24] <daftykins> amineee: do you want to wipe that drive at all so nobody can get the data when you give it away?
[02:25] <genoobie> both HP machines
[02:25] <genoobie> one has a broadcom, the other atheros
[02:25] <amineee> daftykins: yeah of course .. didn't think of that
[02:25] <TJ-> genoobie: you got it correct first time 'pastebinit' is the package
[02:26] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, its taking long tome to delete partition
[02:27] <daftykins> amineee: so you could zero fill it which would be easy, but only once you're ready of course! "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=2M" this will take quite a while, you'll see the disk light stay on permanently until it's done
[02:27] <genoobie> TJ, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7845148/
[02:28] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Something is "wrong" ! .. should only take a few seconds ... It is hard to imigine what to suggest at this point, wait and see what happens ( ??? ).
[02:29] <amineee> daftykins: Roger .. Thanks Again ! .. I still have a lot to learn :/ ..
[02:29] <morpheus_gr> amineee, you can send kill sighup to monitor dd progress
[02:29] <morpheus_gr> kill -usr1
[02:29] <TJ-> genoobie: which SSID is yours? both?
[02:30] <genoobie> TJ-, Memet
[02:30] <amineee> morpheus_gr: how to do that please ?
[02:30] <snadge> has anyone else noticed an issue with intel chipset.. that when going full screen in youtube.. it doesnt actually scale to the full screen?
[02:30] <snadge> im just wondering if thats flash.. driver.. or hardware related
[02:30] <morpheus_gr> ps -ef |grep dd  get the pid and then kill -USR1 pid from another console amineee
[02:31] <daftykins> morpheus_gr: :) would've shared that if i weren't feeling so lazy
[02:31] <amineee> @ ok i think i get it ..
[02:32] <linux_farsight> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[02:32] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, you wana connect via tiemviewer and take a look? i cant even click on details
[02:32] <TJ-> genoobie: OK, that helps me alot, I now can predict what the Atheros should report/see/do
[02:32] <morpheus_gr> lol daftykins
[02:32] <linux_farsight> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
[02:32] <linux> pppppppppppppppp
[02:32] <aneks> is the 14.04.1 update supposed to happen today?
[02:32] <TJ-> genoobie: I'd like to go back to the obvious issue - that despite what we see, RF Kill has the radio turned off - that explains the failure to scan
[02:32] <snadge> http://askubuntu.com/questions/36820/how-to-make-youtube-fullscreen-actually-fullscreen  .. never mind, its an FAQ.. one of these days i'll ask a question that someone actually answers ;)
[02:33] <genoobie> TJ-, any way to disable the whole rfkill driver and recognition thin
[02:33] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Sorry no teamviewer installed .. sweat not, we will muddle through this .. get's too deep TJ_ will bail us out !
[02:33] <genoobie> just fool linux into believing that there is no rf kill switch?
[02:33] <daftykins> snadge: HTML5 - ooh yes not using flash at all seems a great idea to me :)
[02:33] <BrandonC> start heaving the buckets
[02:33] <genoobie> TJ-, let me reboot and re-do that tail command
[02:34] <genoobie> brb
[02:34] <OerHeks> aneks, yes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[02:35] <TJ-> Bashing-om: did someone mention my name?
[02:36] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, how goes the install?
[02:36] <aneks> OerHeks: that's what I was going by, just not sure what time zone that's based by? I'm in Australia
[02:36] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Kinda, in a round about kind of way .. ( sure glad you are in the channel ).
[02:37] <OerHeks> aneks, nope, just wait and see
[02:37] <genoobie> TJ-, I'm back...
[02:38] <TJ-> genoobie: OK ... where are you at with it right now? Were you testing something?
[02:38] <genoobie> TJ-, this is the last 750 lines of syslog http://paste.ubuntu.com/7845185/
[02:38] <TJ-> Bashing-om: for BrandonC?
[02:38] <Lost_x> done, restarting.....
[02:38] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Id GParted still thrashing about ?
[02:38] <genoobie> yes, I had temporarily commented out the ath5k options line
[02:38] <Bashing-om> is/id*
[02:38] <genoobie> this last boot was with that line included
[02:39] <genoobie> still no wireless
[02:39] <BrandonC> ya cant cancel it
[02:39] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: we will use the 64bit copy of the ubuntu 14.04lts
[02:39] <genoobie> still no wireless but nothing is blocked
[02:39] <TJ-> genoobie: the good news is, wpa_supplicant (controlled by Network Manager) is trying to scan but like us manually not seeing any results
[02:39] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, yes, good. how's Win7 install going?
[02:40] <TJ-> genoobie: is the ath5k option "no_hw_rfkill_switch=1" still set?
[02:40] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: completing the window setup....
[02:40] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, cool, please test install before attempting Ubuntu
[02:41] <genoobie> TJ-, yes and nowhcrypt=1
[02:41] <TJ-> genoobie: I'd like you to do a test reboot with that removed... and as the system is starting (before Linux gets going if you can) try enabling/disabling the hardware RF Kill switch and if there is an LED associated with that, see if it goes on/off whatever... We want the LED 'on' (if there is one) :)
[02:42] <TJ-> genoobie: so "no_hw_rfkill_switch=0" or remove it :)
[02:42] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: window is now restarting ...
[02:42] <mojtaba> Hi, I have migrated recently to Ubuntu. Do you know how can I import my .pst files from outlook to thunderbird?
[02:43] <genoobie> TJ-, the switch isn't responsive I've noticed
[02:43] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: done....
[02:43] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, great, make sure Win7 boots properly
[02:43] <genoobie> TJ-, the switch is mostly "blue"
[02:43] <BrandonC> how do i make this stip?
[02:43] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: A thought, when you fired up GParted was there a key icon alongside the partitons for extended and/or swap ? such that the operating system has a lock on the hard drive ? -- what results with key combo ctl+c, to try and get out of GParted ?
[02:43] <BrandonC> stop?
[02:43] <genoobie> every now and then it flashes orange
[02:43] <genoobie> randomly
[02:43] <BrandonC> no
[02:43] <genoobie> TJ-, when I modprobe it also flashes orange
[02:44] <BrandonC> cntrl c nothing
[02:44] <genoobie> TJ-, so I will comment out that line and modprobe -r ath5k modprobe ath5k, or reboot?
[02:44] <TJ-> genoobie: Does it continue flashing then... pulsing every so often?
[02:44] <genoobie> TJ-, what I am I looking to do in the reboot?
[02:44] <genoobie> yes
[02:44] <genoobie> no
[02:44] <genoobie> well, it's mostly a steady blue
[02:44] <genoobie> every now and then a rare flash
[02:45] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Do not see what harm it can be at this stage to "hard" power off the system .. when all else fails, there is alway 'dd' to wipe that hard drive and begin anew .....
[02:45] <TJ-> genoobie: change the setting to =0 so when it loads it doesn't mess with the rfkill... when the system is booting try toggling the hardware RF kill switch a few times to learn what if anything, it might do differently than it is doing now
[02:45] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: i restarted twice and it doing fine...
[02:45] <TJ-> genoobie: That constant blue would be interpreted as 'on' and the flash a 'scan' I'd have thought
[02:45] <codezomb> is anyone aware of a way to have apt use only a small list of specific mirrors? I would like to provide a list of ec2 mirrors, and have ubuntu use the closest one depending on the current region. This is on 14.04.
[02:46] <awesomess3> mojtaba, you may want to look into pst-utils & readpst packages
[02:46] <genoobie> when I'm not typing anything
[02:46] <genoobie> it seems to be a stead blue
[02:46] <mojtaba> awesomess3: Is it a command?
[02:46] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, good, now, boot the Ubuntu DVD and let me know when you get to the where to install screen
[02:46] <genoobie> but like I said, it seems kind of randome
[02:46] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: ok
[02:46] <genoobie> so I will comment out that line, reboot and push the switch a few time
[02:46] <TJ-> genoobie: This is almost as if the antenna has become disconnected... what make/model is the laptop and, do you know if the Atheros card is in an easily accessible bay on the underside... at this stage it is very worth checking the antenna leads haven't become dislodged
[02:47] <noidea> patrick-: sorry i can not help you with that one
[02:47] <genoobie> TJ-, already checked it
[02:47] <TJ-> genoobie: Woooo! nice one :)
[02:47] <patrick-> noidea, heh ok
[02:47] <Bashing-om> Lost_x: OK, and the ubuntu liveDVD passes " check disk for defects " -> we ready to proceed ??
[02:47] <TJ-> genoobie: how many antennas is the adapter connected to, 2?
[02:47] <genoobie> so TJ- by hitting that switch, there will be a log generated, that's what you are after?
[02:48] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, ^^^ check disk for defects, thanks Bashing-om
[02:48] <genoobie> TJ-, yes, two antenna
[02:48] <awesomess3> mojtaba, those packages provide commands to use to convert pst to a thunderbird compatible format (mbox or whatever)
[02:48] <patrick-> noidea, have you seen zoosk though?
[02:48] <mojtaba> awesomess3: thanks
[02:48] <genoobie> I can double check to make sure they are connected correctly...
[02:48] <TJ-> BrandonB: Bashing-om: If gparted seems to be taking a while... have you used a terminal to check /var/log/kern.log for disk I/O errors?
[02:48] <awesomess3> mojtaba, sudo apt-get install pst-utils readpst
[02:48] <genoobie> it's also possible the card is fried?
[02:48] <genoobie> but it was working a few days ago with winxp
[02:49] <awesomess3> mojtaba, dpkg -L pst-utils #give the commands that are available in that installed package.
[02:49] <noidea> patrick-: I know nothing about it.
[02:49] <genoobie> so that's not likely, let me comment out and reboot
[02:49] <genoobie> brb
[02:49] <patrick-> ok
[02:49] <Bashing-om> TJ-: No I had not thought so ... BrandonC ^^^ !
[02:49] <genoobie> just putting a # in front is ok for now, right?
[02:50] <TJ-> genoobie: it is worth checking the antennas yes... and look very closely at the antenna coaxial leads for signs of pinches, damage, anything... I'd say with everything else you've observed the card would show other signs of malfunction if it were fried... but if you have another of the same type of card you could swap in, as a simple test, that would also prove the antennas are good (or not)
[02:50] <daftykins> mojtaba: you can also use Outlook on Windows to convert PSTs to other formats that Thunderbird could import.
[02:50] <genoobie> TJ-, oh, I can do that...
[02:50] <genoobie> let me double check that
[02:50] <genoobie> should I do the test first?
[02:50] <TJ-> genoobie: At this stage I think we have to prove that card works...its worth trying it in another laptop, too
[02:50] <BrandonC> so boot back into live?
[02:50] <genoobie> okay
[02:51] <patrick-> noidea, ok here is a question
[02:51] <genoobie> bbiafm
[02:51] <TJ-> genoobie: Up to you... I don't think the reboot watch-the-LEDs will be terrribly fruitful though... clutching at straw morelike :)
[02:51] <genoobie> okay, so I have a broadcom card
[02:51] <genoobie> in my other hp laptop
[02:51] <patrick-> noidea, my friend has a site on networksolutions and..it appears that his web server has a malware or riskware?
[02:51] <genoobie> I can take that one out and put it in this compaq
[02:51] <patrick-> i heard that linux or unix servers can also get malware or riskware true?
[02:51] <genoobie> that will take a few min.
[02:51] <TJ-> genoobie: maybe swap them over? that'd prove the antennas and the cards
[02:52] <patrick-> his site is getting all ads inside his main page get it?
[02:52] <TJ-> genoobie: that's fine... I need a coffee my brain is aching :)
[02:52] <patrick-> its like these other pages are in his main page
[02:52] <patrick-> when you move your mouse around the page
[02:52] <genoobie> TJ-, okay
[02:52] <genoobie> let me try that first
[02:52] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: im using the 64bit installer of ubuntu and there's this GNU GRUB version 2.02^beta2-9 menu with 4 options 1,. try ubuntu without installing 2. Install Ubunto 3. oem install for manufacturer and 4. check kdisc for defects
[02:52] <OerHeks> patrick-, depends on the dns service, free dns service add free adds
[02:53] <patrick-> noidea, and i found the program malware bytes , which says it has a linux version also or nod32
[02:53] <patrick-> eset nod32
[02:53] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, #4 for now
[02:54] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Yeah, only way we going to get this done is from the liveDVD .. make sure in upper right corner that 'sda' is the working with drive, no key icons visable in the work pane, Best of my poor memory .. in the task bar select device -> new -> msdos -> apply from the actions drop down ( task bar) ..see what results.
[02:54] <sydney> When will ubuntu 14.04 be upgraded to 14.04.1?
[02:54] <ObrienDave> sydney, do a dist-upgrade, it should install
[02:55] <Bashing-om> sydney: Lat I was aware 14.04.1 is due out July 24 .
[02:55] <sydney> Tommorow,cool!!
[02:55] <TJ-> Bashing-om: I'm following along with a tail on the log as long as there's "BrandonC" in the output
[02:55] <sydney> And the ISO's will be updated too?
[02:56] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Thanks .. takes a load off .. BrandonC ^^.
[02:56] <patrick-> anyone?
[02:57] <linux> quit
[02:57] <mojtaba> daftykins: like what?
[02:57] <lix-64> alguien que hables español?
[02:58] <daftykins> mojtaba: depends on Outlook version
[02:59] <BrandonC> lives up
[03:00] <BrandonC> tj- Bashing-om lives up
[03:01] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: its done, whats next?
[03:02] <tiblock> Hi. I want upgrade 12.04 desktop to 14, first i did update+upgrade he upgraded 149 packets (it was long time since last upgrde) do i need reboot PC or i can do dist-upgrade without reboot? (yes i know dist-upgrade can bring tons of problems)
[03:03] <mojtaba> daftykins: It is 2012
[03:03] <mojtaba> daftykins: or 2010
[03:03] <daftykins> there is no such office as 2012
[03:03] <Jeffrey_f> question on rsyslog: If I install onto a desktop and set up my laptop to report to the desktop, how would the laptop behave when it is off premises and unable to contact the syslog server??
[03:03] <mojtaba> daftykins: Yes, it is 2010
[03:04] <daftykins> mojtaba: ok, you're welcome to go and explore the options, this is not MS Outlook help i'm afraid :)
[03:04] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Fier up GParted, sda selected from the upper right, no key icons in the wirk pane !
[03:04] <daftykins> mojtaba: also a tip, delete your junk email and deleted items in Outlook - then compress your PSTs before attempting to do anything with them
[03:04] <Bashing-om> wirk/work*
[03:04] <grobe0ba> tiblock, it never hurts to reboot. also, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/QuantalUpgrades
[03:05] <mojtaba> daftykins: ok, thanks
[03:05] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, let's go for #1 try without installing
[03:05] <tiblock> grobe0ba, thank you
[03:05] <grobe0ba> don't just do a dist-upgrade. use do-release-upgrade
[03:05] <genoobie> TJ-, hey
[03:05] <genoobie> unsupported hardward, please remove
[03:05] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, i have /dev/sda
[03:05] <grobe0ba> tiblock, seriously, don't just use dist-upgrade. do-release-upgrade should eventually get you where you need to be, but in a safer manner
[03:05] <genoobie> TJ-, i am going to try that atheros card in the laptop that works
[03:06] <genoobie> bbiam
[03:06] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: From the task bar what is in the drop down from the 'devices' tab ?
[03:06] <BrandonC> Bashing-om,  i have unallocated, /dev/sda2 with key, and /dev/sda5 with key
[03:07] <BrandonC> create partition table, attempt data rescue
[03:07] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Right click on the swap partition, and choose "swap off " .
[03:07] <tiblock> grobe0ba, do-release-upgrade  will upgrade to 12.10 first?
[03:07] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, done
[03:07] <grobe0ba> tiblock, not sure. i think it'll take you straight to the latest
[03:08] <grobe0ba> but i could be wrong
[03:08] <grobe0ba> even if it does, it's safer to do it in steps
[03:08] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Now what from the devices tab drop down ?
[03:08] <grobe0ba> instead of one giant leap
[03:08] <grobe0ba> never dist-upgrade
[03:08] <g146m026> is check disk space wake up hdd ? i want to add disk space in my conky script but dont want to wake up hdd all the time
[03:08] <ObrienDave> E: Invalid operation do-release-upgrade
[03:08] <grobe0ba> i've lost more debian based systems to dist-upgrade than anything else
[03:08] <tiblock> grobe0ba, your URL says about 12.04->12.10 do i need first upgrade to 12.10?
[03:08] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, same
[03:08] <grobe0ba> ObrienDave, it's not an apt command
[03:08] <grobe0ba> tiblock, i know, read what i just said
[03:08] <grobe0ba> like all 5 lines of it
[03:09] <grobe0ba> ObrienDave, try reading the url i posted
[03:09] <daftykins> grobe0ba: dist-upgrade doesn't do what you seem to think it does :)
[03:09] <grobe0ba> daftykins, yes it does
[03:09] <grobe0ba> it breaks things when you make giant version leaps
[03:09] <grobe0ba> i am well aware of what it does
[03:09] <grobe0ba> what it's intended to do
[03:09] <daftykins> it sounded like you were claiming it upgrades version
[03:09] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: same ? .. sda5 is the swap, should, I expect, be able to right click and "swap off" .
[03:09] <grobe0ba> and what actually tends to happen when you skip 5 releases
[03:10] <grobe0ba> daftykins, not unless you change the repos to reflect it
[03:10] <grobe0ba> i'm going to sleep before i yell at someone
[03:10] <daftykins> yeah so in and of itself it's not actually a problem
[03:10] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, did that before
[03:10] <daftykins> grobe0ba: calm down there! :)
[03:10] <BrandonC> i only have unallocated, extended, and linux-swap
[03:10] <grobe0ba> like i said, i'm going the fuck to sleep
[03:11] <Jeffrey_f> question on rsyslog: If I install onto a desktop and set up my laptop to report to the desktop, how would the laptop behave when it is off premises and unable to contact the syslog server??
[03:11] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: OK, so now we want a new partition table .. from the task bar best I recall is 'devices' click on devices -> new ? yes ???
[03:11] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: im in
[03:12] <legend> hi
[03:12] <tiblock> grobe0ba, thank you, but i still dont understand what your URL means. Should i first google how to 12.04->12.10 and only then do-release-upgrade?
[03:12] <grobe0ba> yelling generally entails capslock
[03:12] <grobe0ba> i merely spoke.
[03:12] <BrandonC> under partition in menue is new, delte resize/move, copy, format to..
[03:12] <grobe0ba> tiblock, speak to someone who likes ubuntu
[03:12] <BrandonC> but new is greyed out
[03:12] <grobe0ba> i use freebsd for a reason
[03:12] <grobe0ba> deuces all
[03:12] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, cool, now go for the install icon
[03:12] <tiblock> lel
[03:12] <TJ-> BrandonC: Bashing-om Now would be a good time to open a terminal and run a tail on kern.log ... "sudo tail -f /var/log/kern.log" and keep an eye on it for any hint of I/O errors whilst gparted is working
[03:12] <BrandonC> oh if i select unallocated i can do partition ->new
[03:12] <daftykins> tiblock: what version are you on and what are you trying to do?
[03:13] <tiblock> daftykins, im on 12.04 desktop and i want 14
[03:13] <daftykins> tiblock: ok, wait for 14.04.1's release then you can upgrade direct. you'll be offered it via software update / update manager
[03:14] <tiblock> daftykins, oh, its still not released? Okay then, thank you
[03:14] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Let's us do as TJ- advises and get a running readout of what is going on .. // Now .. is the entire hard drive "unallocated space " ??.
[03:14] <daftykins> tiblock: seems it's supposed to be around today, but no idea what timezone :)
[03:15] <tiblock> daftykins, okay, thank you
[03:15] <daftykins> no problem
[03:17] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: im in the installation type. the options are "erase disc and install ubuntu and something else
[03:17] <ObrienDave> damn
[03:18] <ObrienDave> Bashing-om, Lost_x has no "alongside" option again
[03:18] <Bashing-om> Lost_x: ObrienDave yeah,, so I sen I seen ... Now thgat do not make sense .. that option "should" now be there ! ..think'n !
[03:19] <Lost_x> Bashing-om: installed win7 in the whole drive. no partitions created.
[03:19] <noidea> patrick-: if you know it is malware then i would asume it would work
[03:20] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, you should have the same 2 you had last night, the 100MB recovery partition and the remaining drive
[03:21] <cappicard> good evening. how do I disable usb tethering when I plug in my iphone 5s into 14.04?
[03:21] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: yes
[03:21] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, let's go for "something else" and see what you have for partitions
[03:21] <Bashing-om> Lost_x: That is correct .. in the ubuntu install, ubuntu's installer would take care of setting up it's own partitions ... maybe, is windows taking up the 4 primary partitions now ? -> liveDVD -> fdisk -lu < - .. what does that tell us ?
[03:21] <aminee> !log
[03:21] <Lost_x> Bashing-om: i notice the "install alongside windows" option appears when there's a partitions found.
[03:22] <BrandonC> sigh i think something froze
[03:22] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Is the tail on the log file running ?
[03:23] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, have you tried "something else" yet?
[03:24] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, i cant even move mouse
[03:24] <Lost_x> ObrienDave:  uploading image
[03:24] <ObrienDave> cool
[03:24] <mnathani> how would I create a software RAID from 3x3tb drives to make a 9tb volume?
[03:24] <Bashing-om> Lost_x: Kinda lost me there ... "option appears when there's a partitions found" .. I would expect it to be as soon as the installer fires up.
[03:25] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, agreeing with Bashing-om you should have that option
[03:25] <Lost_x> ObrienDave:  last time i successfully installed ubuntu, got grub problem when booting to win7
[03:26] <Lost_x> here's the image http://ibin.co/1UNUev4vMg7a
[03:27] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, probably because of the UEFI mobo
[03:27] <patrick-> noidea, and i found the program malware bytes , which says it has a linux version also or nod32
[03:27] <inanepenguin> Hey guys, not sure if this is the right place to ask but I ran into an issue after installing 14.04 on my machine… Downloaded 14.04, made an install usb drive, partitioned my SSD and installed. Now when I boot to my windows partition, none of my usb devices are recognized/give input. my mouse, keyboard, etc, are all useles....
[03:27] <patrick-> eset nod32
[03:27] <patrick-> i heard that linux or unix servers can also get malware or riskware true?
[03:27] <patrick-> noidea, my friend has a site on networksolutions and..it appears that his web server has a malware or riskware?
[03:28] <patrick-> im asking this again since i didnt get a reply earlier
[03:28] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: If froze up .. let's try and back out .. key combo ( twisted fingers) ctl+alt r s e i r b ---- slowly .. see if the system reboots .. now we need to verify that liveDVD. when it reboots, shift key soon as bios screen clears -> language screen, escape key to accept default -> boot options screen -> " check disk for defects" .
[03:28] <patrick-> anyone?
[03:28] <noidea> patrick-: yes true, if you know it is malware using malwarebytes may be a good solution
[03:29] <inanepenguin> Has anyone seen an issue like this? Where devices stop working on Win7 after installing ubuntu….
[03:29] <patrick-> im askng can linux servers also get mallware or riskware?
[03:29] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, shift worked. language
[03:29] <noidea> patrick-: yes
[03:29] <patrick-> ok
[03:30] <patrick-> so his webhosts admin is stupid
[03:30] <patrick-> noidea, cause the sys admin hasnt fixed it yet
[03:30] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, test diskc for defects?
[03:30] <patrick-> and its networksolutions
[03:30] <patrick-> a popular site right?
[03:30] <noidea> patrick-: if problem could also be more complicated that a piece of malware
[03:31] <patrick-> oh
[03:31] <gartral> anyone here running with a Gobi-2000 3g modem? I really need some help here..
[03:31] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, ok, you up to doing this manually?
[03:31] <Jeffrey_f> patrick-: The short answer is YES.  The long answer is:  You would REALLY need to put forth a pretty good amount of effort to get malware or virii into a linux install.  Also, IF you succeeded in doing  so, the only likely victim would be your home folder as your own user ID usually has no access to any other part of the system
[03:31] <patrick-> here is what happened my laptop had malware and i heard this riskware can go to another machine
[03:31] <patrick-> and thats what hapepned
[03:31] <patrick-> cause i know his site and after i got malware hs site messed up like that
[03:31] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Yeah, run that option .. let's insure that the liveDVD is good !
[03:31] <patrick-> so....
[03:32] <noidea> patrick-: and how is this known?
[03:32] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, coffee, brb
[03:32] <linux_farsight> hello
[03:33] <Jeffrey_f> patrick-: Also, downloading packages from OTHER THAN the repositories can put harmful software onto your machine and depending on the questions asked of the software on install, if you gave the software the sudo/root password, then you stand the chance of a system wide "infection"
[03:33] <patrick-> yeah
[03:34] <patrick-> its actually was riskware
[03:34] <patrick-> but with malwarebytes i was able to remove it
[03:34] <usr13> riskware?
[03:34] <patrick-> yea
[03:34] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: ok, im out for lunch.....
[03:34] <patrick-> that apparently affected my friends website
[03:34] <usr13> malwarebytes?
[03:34] <patrick-> i had up on my browser
[03:35] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, ok, see ya when you get back
[03:35] <usr13> patrick-: Do you have a question about Ubuntu?
[03:35] <patrick-> http://www.armenianhighland.com
[03:35] <patrick-> click below those 2 links
[03:35] <patrick-> move your mouse there
[03:35] <patrick-> in the brown space
[03:35] <usr13> patrick-: The topic for this channel is Ubuntu
[03:36] <Jeffrey_f> patrick-:  like I said, you need to put forth a bit of effort to get  an infection.  If it was just your browser, you can kill your profile folder in for firefox or what ever and next start it will creat a new profile folder
[03:36] <patrick-> usr13, ok
[03:36] <patrick-> sorry
[03:36] <TJ-> BrandonC Bashing-om faulty DRAM module possible too?
[03:36] <gartral> anyone here running with a Gobi-2000 3g modem? I really need some help here.. Ubuntu 14.04
[03:37] <ObrienDave> gartral, no, what it the issue?
[03:37] <ObrienDave> *is
[03:38] <genoobie> TJ-, well
[03:38] <genoobie> I swapped a couple of card
[03:38] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Presently anything is possible, bout to the point to reboot, and take detailed notes on the procedure to obtain a new partition table ( other box is down, so gotta boot this one ) .
[03:38] <genoobie> cards
[03:39] <genoobie> each time, computer stopped booting with an unsupported hardware message
[03:39] <TJ-> genoobie: I saw that one of the laptops is locked to its WiFi card :(
[03:39] <genoobie> all three were
[03:39] <TJ-> genoobie: Sometimes I really despise the proprietary lock-in
[03:39] <genoobie> no way to really test them
[03:39] <genoobie> I did push the rfkill switch a few times at boot
[03:40] <genoobie> nothing really revealing happened
[03:40] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, no errors found
[03:40] <genoobie> I can check the dmesg
[03:40] <BrandonC> i can try other ram
[03:40] <TJ-> genoobie: I think we need to take a break from it, do some thinking... if it is possible to test that Atheros card in another person's laptop that isn't locked to its adapters, that'd be my goal
[03:40] <genoobie> there's that madwifi bracnh
[03:40] <genoobie> *branch
[03:41] <TJ-> genoobie: I think I have one of those atheros cards lying around... let me go hunt in the bits bin
[03:41] <TJ-> genoobie: The driver is working fine, I'm sure of it... you've got a hardware issue there ... that device doesn't even need firmware
[03:43] <TJ-> genoobie: ahh no, it has a AR9380 chipset
[03:43] <maddawg> question... i'm trying to use the rm command to remove a bunch of file types but i need it to look at a directory recursively
[03:43] <gartral> ObrienDave: gobi-loader hangs indefinately even though it has wwan firmware to load, the card is on, and everything should just work >.<
[03:44] <maddawg> for example i have a directoryu with multiple directories and i need all .jpg ,tbn. .info files removed automatically
[03:44] <maddawg> as well as .txt
[03:44] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Lemme see how Lost_x is getting along .. and I reboot and get details from the liveDVD on redoing the disk's partition table.
[03:44] <maddawg> but i need it to also remove them from sub directories and sub-sub-directories etc
[03:44] <genoobie> TJ-, by hardware issue you mean a bad card?
[03:44] <genoobie> or pinched wire, etc?
[03:45] <maddawg> i know you can just do rm -rf *.jpg  to rmeove all jpg files, but what about doing that for all the directories inside a directory
[03:45] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, k, cd didnt have errors restarted and changing ram
[03:45] <TJ-> genoobie: That or bad antennas/connections, yes
[03:45] <genoobie> hrm...okay
[03:45] <genoobie> so usb wireless?
[03:46] <TJ-> genoobie: or the RF kill switch misbehaving in some way
[03:46] <genoobie> that seems so clunk.
[03:46] <genoobie> clunky
[03:46] <TJ-> genoobie: you ought to be able to pick up a replacement HP part quite cheaply... as long as its the HP I'd think the laptop will accept it
[03:47] <TJ-> genoobie: lspci says its the HP AR5BXB63
[03:47] <genoobie> yes, that would help in identifying the problem
[03:47] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: a memtest from the liveDVD will check the ram for ya ( when in doubt run it overnight !) .// Lost_x is at lunch, so I backing all out here and booting into my liveDVD. be back soonest .
[03:47] <genoobie> anyway to software bypass the switch?
[03:47] <genoobie> like suppress / etc?
[03:48] <TJ-> genoobie: I could not find any reports of issues with that device. The only other remote possibility is that in the HP - like in some Dells - the BIOS has a radio kill function itself
[03:48] <genoobie> well it's possible the switch is acting funny
[03:48] <somsip> maddawg: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7096528/remove-all-of-a-file-type-from-a-directory-and-its-children
[03:48] <TJ-> genoobie: the point of hardware switches is to physically stop the radio from transmitting
[03:48] <TJ-> genoobie: possible but with the LED activity you reported I think unlikely
[03:49] <genoobie> TJ-, so you think the problem is in the card.
[03:49] <gartral> are you guys talking about wifi or 3g stuff?
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> some wifi devices have a weird wifi method to disable, then reboot from windows to keep disabled wifi
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> like medion
[03:50] <genoobie> I suppose I could install xp and see if it works
[03:50] <genoobie> that would narrow down the problem
[03:50] <TJ-> genoobie: Unless you can see it working with a different Linux distro, or Windows, I think that has to be the conclusion. The only other thing, as I said earlier, is the AP is operating only 40MHz wide channels and the card is only listening for 20MHz wide channels
[03:50] <TJ-> genoobie: but if other devices can connect with 802.11g then it can't be that
[03:50] <genoobie> So TJ- to verify that.
[03:51] <genoobie> oh right the other laptop connected, same OS, different card / hware
[03:51] <genoobie> hrm...
[03:51] <TJ-> genoobie: there's *one* other possibility I didn't think of remote though. The WiFi router could be configured to ignore the MAC address of that card
[03:51] <genoobie> no
[03:51] <genoobie> definitely not that
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> genoobie: so this is a hp with as default Os xp?
[03:52] <genoobie> vista
[03:52] <TJ-> genoobie: the fact the other laptop could see 2 SSIDs rules that out though
[03:53] <genoobie> yes
[03:53] <Novartis> Dear god why!? vi is so unintuitive!
[03:54] <maddawg> thanks somsip i will take a look
[03:54] <genoobie> Like I said, the only other solution left is to install xp, (real pain though) and if the wireless doesn't work there then I know the hardware is the issue
[03:54] <genoobie> well let me have at it...
[03:54] <pr0metheu5> Hi, guys. Whenever I try to wake my computer up from hibernation, I get stuck at a dark screen. I hit CTRL+ALT+F1 and the last thing says "setversion 1.4 failed." Something about permission being denied.
[03:55] <genoobie> well TJ- thank you very much for your patience and help.
[03:55] <TJ-> genoobie: you're welcome... let me know the outcome, whatever it is, I'm intrigued and annoyed!
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> genoobie: some brands with wifi+windows enable/disable switch oesnt like ubuntu
[03:55] <genoobie> Oh wait, there is another option
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> i had this with some medion brands
[03:56] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: yeah, we considered that, but everything about every test points to everything except actual reception is working
[03:56] <genoobie> I could reinstall 11.04 (last known working ubuntu)
[03:56] <daftykins> no you can't, because that's EOL
[03:56] <TJ-> genoobie: You could use a 11.04 live ISO
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: i also did, those rfkill to see if its software/hardware, but i neve rbeen able to fix
[03:56] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: weird isn't it?
[03:56] <genoobie> oh, right
[03:56] <genoobie> let me do that
[03:57] <TJ-> genoobie: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/11.04/
[03:57] <genoobie> I think I might even have that disk lying around!
[03:57] <genoobie> brb
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> genoobie: can you check bios if wifi says 'last state'
[03:57] <genoobie> lotuspsychje, nope
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[03:57] <genoobie> bios is super stripped down
[03:58] <genoobie> let me try that 11.04 brb
[03:58] <Dougie187> Has anyone ever noticed terrible performance with luks on 14.04?
[03:58] <TJ-> Dougie187: no
[03:58] <Dougie187> (trying to figure out what the cause is)
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> !info luks
[03:58] <Dougie187> lotuspsychje: I think it's dmcrypt
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> !info dmcrypt
[03:59] <TJ-> Dougie187: have you checked "/var/log/kern.log" ?
[03:59] <pr0metheu5> Hi, guys. Whenever I try to wake my computer up from hibernation, I get stuck at a dark screen. I hit CTRL+ALT+F1 and the last thing says "setversion 1.4 failed." Something about permission being denied.
[03:59] <Novartis> How do I break a line in vi?
[03:59] <Dougie187> TJ-: let me check.
[03:59] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: it's kernel module dm_crypt
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> genoobie: try a tail -f /var/log/syslog and play a bit with your wifi to see errors
[04:00] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: we did that, do you want all the pastebin URLs ?
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: oh sure ill take a look, you got urls?
[04:00] <Dougie187> TJ-: I get a lot of "current rate 17476 is different from the runtime rate 44100" if that means anything
[04:00] <Dougie187> but my problem currently is that *everything* causes cpu usage to jump to >100%
[04:01] <Dougie187> (on an 8 core machine)
[04:01] <fishcooker> i want to restart the box .. is there any option on grub so that i can login on command line only no gui needed?
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> fishcooker: whats your end goal?
[04:02] <fishcooker> what process/apps do you use Dougie187 ?
[04:02] <fishcooker> just command line lotuspsychje ?
[04:02] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: yes: "iwlist wlan0 freq" http://pastebin.com/fCxpN53Z  "/var/log/dmesg" http://pastebin.com/bHQGCbbb "lspci -nnvvvk" http://paste.ubuntu.com/7845065/ "fwts aspm" http://paste.ubuntu.com/7845094/ "tail -n 750 /var/log/syslog"  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7845185/  "iwlist wlan0 scan" (from another PC) http://paste.ubuntu.com/7845148/
[04:02] <Dougie187> fishcooker: right now, pidgin, chrome, keepass2, and gnome-terminal
[04:02] <genoobie> brb
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> fishcooker: install ubuntu server then?
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: tnx
[04:03] <TJ-> Dougie187: "44100" suggests audio... that's the default CD-audio record rate 44.1kHz
[04:03] <fishcooker> this is a desktop lotuspsychje.. on this case i want to login command line
[04:03] <hikkib> Hello guys! Does anyone know how to connect to a l2tp ipsec vpn in ubuntu 14.04? Something with a gui would be much appreciated
[04:03] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: The kernel module is "ath5k" and "/etc/modprobe.d/ath5k.conf" contains "options ath5k nohwcrypt=1 no_rf_kill_switch=0" (we tried that with =1, too)
[04:03] <fishcooker> please use htop for interative process monitor, Dougie187
[04:03] <Dougie187> TJ-: Ah ok. Thanks.
[04:03] <ObrienDave> gartral, sorry, i did not see your response. i would try getting the firmware updated first before trying to fix the other issue
[04:04] <TJ-> Dougie187: have you got a run-away audio process, or ALSA issue, maybe?
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: ubuntu version was trusty?
[04:04] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: Yes, dmesg says "Ubuntu 3.13.0-32.57-generic"
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> fishcooker: im using 'quiet splash' off but that will bring you to gui login also
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: how about atheros firmware update?
[04:05] <fishcooker> with htop you can see what apps that use your cpu most, Dougie187
[04:05] <Dougie187> Yeah, I was using top before. But I'll check htop and see whats up
[04:05] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: originally there was no "wlan0" at all... adding ath5k options fixed that. That atheros card requires no firmware blobs
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: some atheros cards can do crazy things
[04:06] <Dougie187> looks like I get a ton of usage from oneconf-service and some apt-update thing
[04:06] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: Yeah... I did some cross checking on the HP sub-model as well as the Atheros PCI ID, could find nothing vaguely similar in terms of problem reports
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: and the wifi did what exactly as error?
[04:07] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: no error... but "iwlist wlan0 scan" simply does not see the two APs within range. The user's own AP is on channel 2, other 802.11g devices can connect
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: maybe worth to test WEP instead of WPA?
[04:08] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: we spent some time chasing down the RF kill side to ensure the card was enabled. The LED on the laptop is lit blue when the hardware switch is in the on position, and the LED pulses orange at regular intervals too
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[04:09] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: It doesn't get that far, there is no AP found to try to authenticate against, and the SSID isn't hidden
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: thats odd indeed
[04:10] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: OK, I am back .. got my sense of direction restored .
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: this was a clean install or upgrade?
[04:10] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: So far as I'm aware a clean install
[04:12] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, http://oi59.tinypic.com/2d13fpd.jpg
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: NetworkManager[814]: <info> (wlan0): deactivating device (reason 'managed') [2] weird
[04:13] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: look'n at your m/2d13fpd.jpg.
[04:13] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: Yes, everything looks OK from the Network Manager side....OH HECK!!!!
[04:14] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: OK, right click on 'sda5'and choose "swap off" .
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: seems like its activating/disactivating randomly what would explain the wifi light on/off
[04:14] <BrandonC> k
[04:15] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: I just had a realisation... I hope it isn't though! genoobie told me he had created an ad-hoc network by accident... I *wonder* if the card has been put into a different mode and won't come back into managed? I know 'iwconfig' reported it in managed mode... let me search back through my log of our conversations for all the pastebin links, to check
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: kk :p
[04:15] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: Yes. That is standard NM/wpa_supplicant behaviour... it scans for new networks... but in this case isn't finding any
[04:16] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, then what?
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: never saw one of those neither: ath5k 0000:07:00.0: can't disable ASPM; OS doesn't have ASPM control
[04:18] <genoobie> TJ-, you still here?
[04:18] <genoobie> in either case I had a puppylinux cd lying around
[04:19] <genoobie> and I am wirelessly connected
[04:19] <genoobie> I was hoping to glean some info
[04:19] <lix-64> alguien que hable español?
[04:19] <Bashing-om> Now, make sure that sda is in the upper right corner still ( safty is no accident) .. in the task bar click 'Devide" -> Create Partition Table -> WARNING erase all data blah blah  blah , make sure the default "msdos' is set inthe  "Select New Partition Type:" window ->> apply. Now back to the task bar and choose edit -> Apply All operations -> in the summary window again see what is going to be done and again -> apply .. should now be a done dea
[04:19] <TJ-> genoobie: Yes
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> !es | lix-64
[04:19] <TJ-> genoobie: really!? which kernel version? "uname -r"
[04:19] <ObrienDave> !es | lix-64
[04:19] <Bashing-om> Devide/Device*
[04:20] <ObrienDave> lotuspsychje, you're too quick ;P
[04:20] <genoobie> TJ- hold a sec
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | ObrienDave
[04:20] <TJ-> genoobie: that's good news at least :)
[04:20] <genoobie> 3.0.25
[04:20] <ObrienDave> lotuspsychje, ;P
[04:20] <genoobie> that's consistent with what I had in lubuntu 11
[04:20] <lix-64> ubottu: gracias
[04:21] <TJ-> genoobie: So quite old... I wonder if you've found a bug :)
[04:21] <genoobie> yay!
[04:21] <genoobie> so now what?
[04:21] <TJ-> genoobie: At least you've proved the card is fine :)
[04:21] <genoobie> madwifi?
[04:21] <genoobie> yep
[04:21] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, got when i select msdos and apply gives me only partatitin unallocated, and nothing to aply
[04:21] <genoobie> at least that's good to know
[04:22] <genoobie> can I find out which driver is being used?
[04:22] <genoobie> hey
[04:23] <genoobie> TJ-, do you still have those links?
[04:23] <TJ-> genoobie: madwifi was superseded by ath5k
[04:24] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Hummm ... think'n /// Maybe we try and partition that hard drive ?? see what then results ?
[04:24] <genoobie> not that this makes a diff, but the chip was identified in puppylinux with [168c:001c]
[04:24] <TJ-> genoobie: "sudo lspci -nnkkvvv -s 07:00.0"
[04:24] <TJ-> genoobie: Yes, that is the PCI ID of the device... the driver matches that ID to know it matches
[04:25] <genoobie> yep ath5k
[04:25] <genoobie> maybe the issue is with cfg80211 or mac80211
[04:26] <genoobie> maybe I'll just use puppylinux
[04:26] <TJ-> genoobie: I wonder if you installed the latest mainline kernel into Ubuntu, whether that would work. Ubuntu builds and packages the mainline kernels for just this type of situation
[04:26] <TJ-> genoobie: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[04:26] <genoobie> I think I did that with apt-get upgrade
[04:27] <TJ-> genoobie: No, you can't get the latest mainline... by installing a mainline it tells us if the Ubuntu kernel is carrying bugs relative to more recent 'vanilla' kernels
[04:27] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, create new partition, free space preceding, new size, free space folloing, create as: primary parittion, logical , extended.... file system ext4 label
[04:27] <BrandonC> disk maximum size 38166
[04:28] <genoobie> TJ-, can you give me that link again?
[04:28] <TJ-> genoobie: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[04:30] <genoobie> TJ-, not to belabor the point, but what is the basic idea?
[04:30] <genoobie> so a more "modern" kernel may have addressed this bug?
[04:30] <genoobie> TJ-, how would I look up this bug?
[04:31] <TJ-> genoobie: correct, and a kernel that has no Ubuntu-specific patches
[04:31] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Maybe as there was still the extended partiton, and sweap partitions on the disk, GParted would not permit a new table to be made ?? // I Had in mind to let the installer set up partitions on the disk automagically, but Iffen ya want we cn set up the partitions ourselfs .. as in / 8 Gig, /home 30 Gigs, and for swap I thouhgt 2 Gigs as reasonable.
[04:31] <TJ-> genoobie: Let's find out if it is one... if there is, I can look at all the kernel commits to the ath5k file between the 2 points to try and identify the patch that would have fixed the issue
[04:31] <genoobie> oh, hrm
[04:31] <BrandonC> its says 37.27 unallocated
[04:32] <genoobie> well that's definitely out of my leagure at this pint
[04:32] <genoobie> *point
[04:32] <TJ-> genoobie: I can do it here trivially
[04:33] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, rebooting back in a few
[04:34] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: 37.27 would be about right as the extended partition containing the swap partition is still extent.
[04:34] <TJ-> genoobie: there have only been 12 patches to ath5k since the Ubuntu kernel 3.13
[04:35] <genoobie> yes, but the known working kernel is 3.0.25
[04:35] <genoobie> and lubuntu 11.04 (don't know which kernel that is but I seem to recall a 3.0.something
[04:35] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, http://oi62.tinypic.com/rh8h3l.jpg
[04:36] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, am back
[04:36] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: lookin at .com/rh8h3l.jpg .
[04:36] <WithoutDoctrine> hi
[04:36] <Odd0002> hello?
[04:36] <t2mkn> while using "sudo apt-get update" i see links starting with "Hit", "Get", "Ign". what these mean ? :-/
[04:36] <genoobie> Hello
[04:37] <t2mkn> hi
[04:37] <genoobie> So TJ-, if I am not mistaken, you could suggest that one of these patches killed the driver?
[04:37] <TJ-> genoobie: Yes, but first it helps to know if the problem still exists. If it does, we can track back from 3.13 towards 3.0 looking for other causes
[04:37] <WithoutDoctrine> someone helpme please
[04:38] <genoobie> TJ-, what tools are you using to help figure that out?  I'm curious, because once upon a time I wanted to write device drivers.
[04:38] <TJ-> genoobie: It is obviously something to do with the kernel version, and we know the thing fails to get any scan results
[04:38] <Odd0002> I'm trying to decrease my boot times, so I used bootchart and removed modemmanager and bluez/other bluetooth packages (I don't have either), but for some reason my CPU usage during boot increased (http://imagebin.org/316299 vs http://imagebin.org/316302).  Can anyone tell me why this is?
[04:38] <ObrienDave> t2mkn, hit means contact with repo, get means getting updated package list, ign means package list is current or repo is ignored. something like that
[04:38] <TJ-> genoobie: "gitlog -n 50  v3.13..HEAD --  drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath5k/" in the Linux kernel tree
[04:38] <socketguru> Hi all
[04:38] <genoobie> oh, I see.
[04:39] <ObrienDave> !ask | WithoutDoctrine
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | Odd0002
[04:40] <t2mkn> ObrienDave: got it. thanks. is this "Ign" ok or i need to fix anything?
[04:41] <Odd0002> lotuspsychje: does preload only load disk into RAM?  What about that CPU usage you can see in the bootcharts?
[04:41] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: 1st partiton suggestion: free space preceeding 1, new size 30,000 , free space following 1 , alighn to Mib (OK) , create as Primary , file system ext4 , label / ....
[04:41] <ObrienDave> t2mkn, not to worry, just means package list is current
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> Odd0002: not sure what causes cpu load, check your logs
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> Odd0002: i use quiet splash off for text boot, bit quicker
[04:42] <t2mkn> ObrienDave: ooo ok
[04:42] <socketguru> I have installed ubuntu server 14.04 and want to run systemd for init services...is systemd stable enough for this?
[04:43] <BrandonC> successful
[04:43] <genoobie> I wish I knew how to remove certain patches, etc.
[04:43] <BrandonC> 7.97 unallocated Bashing-om
[04:43] <Odd0002> lotuspsychje: it seems preload is only for apps that run after boot... and anyways I'm limited on RAM (1 GB and lubuntu)... so I'm not sure it'll be useful...
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> genoobie: did you install trusty with cable?
[04:44] <TJ-> genoobie: I've just looked at the patch history from 3.0..3.13 and nothing stands out as being a possible cause
[04:44] <genoobie> TJ do you think the problem could be specific to lubuntu?
[04:44] <genoobie> should I install ubuntu and then pick LXDE?
[04:44] <TJ-> genoobie: next time you boot that laptop into Ubuntu, can you do "iwconfig wlan0" and check it is in mode Managed?
[04:44] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: UHH,, !! I messed that one up ... change the label to /home .
[04:44] <TJ-> genoobie: No, this is a kernel issue if anything
[04:44] <genoobie> TJ-, I could do that
[04:45] <genoobie> I could do that now, is there any more info I should get from puppylinux
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> Odd0002: any trick that speeds up would be usefull yes
[04:45] <t2mkn> problem installing "iBall AIRWAY 3G 21.0Mbps dongle" can some one help.
[04:45] <genoobie> lotuspsychje, yes it was with a cable
[04:45] <socketguru> hi all, can anyone suggest regarding my problem... I have installed ubuntu server 14.04 and want to run systemd for init services...is systemd stable enough for this? I was using archlinux before and systemd was great.. but now we have to use production server which is ubuntu.....
[04:45] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: scratvch that, I was not considering the overhead .. lets make that partition say 28 Gigs ...
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> socketguru: #ubuntu-server
[04:46] <genoobie> okay, going to boot into lubuntu
[04:46] <BrandonC> Bashing-om,  it wont let me have free space preceding and following 1
[04:46] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, its auto populating the other when i change one to 1
[04:48] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Makes sense , but let's back up and start again ...
[04:49] <TJ-> BrandonC Bashing-om If I recall correctly, you set 2 out of the 3 of Before, Size, and After... the other is computed
[04:49] <BrandonC> ya
[04:49] <Bashing-om> make this / partiton as 8 Gigs, set to use as / .
[04:50] <genoobie> TJ-, back
[04:50] <genoobie> yes, it is "managed"
[04:50] <genoobie> okay, it is working now
[04:50] <genoobie> WHAATT??
[04:51] <genoobie> okay, here's what I "noticed"
[04:51] <genoobie> TJ-, you still here?
[04:51] <Odd0002> lotuspsychje: what about prelink?  https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Prelink
[04:51] <mnathani> how do I reconfigure grub onto my bios_grub partition on a gpt disk
[04:51] <mnathani> I am running 3 disks in Software Raid 0
[04:52] <genoobie> TJ-, there's no "bug" because the wireless is working
[04:52] <genoobie> lotuspsychje, how familiar are you with this stuff?
[04:53] <FreedyTom> ok..my  microphones are not working
[04:53] <FreedyTom> tried frot audio and back audio.. with two different ones
[04:53] <FreedyTom> front*
[04:54] <FreedyTom> could it be a software problem?
[04:54] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, ok starting over, make an 8gig partition?
[04:54] <ObrienDave> FreedyTom, make sure you don't have them muted first
[04:54] <FreedyTom> they arent' muted
[04:54] <genoobie> I spent like 8 hours on a wireless problem that "fixed itself"
[04:54] <genoobie> but I want to know why it works now and didn't before
[04:54] <FreedyTom> ObrienDave, and it's detected me putting them in
[04:55] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Yeah .. that will be for 'root' (/), and then we make up /home partiton as say 28 Gigs, and then the extended parition, and then the logical swap partition .
[04:55] <ObrienDave> FreedyTom, run alsamixer in a terminal please
[04:56] <FreedyTom> yep got it
[04:56] <FreedyTom> it has rear-mic
[04:56] <FreedyTom> filled up to two-brs
[04:57] <ObrienDave> do you have any recording software like audacity or audio-recorder?
[04:57] <BrandonC> Bashing-om,  getting confused, and sleepy
[04:58] <TJ-> genoobie: Interesting... I think the card got into a confused state, and the 3.0 boot sorted it out somehow
[04:58] <genoobie> TJ-, I booted quite a few times
[04:58] <genoobie> but TJ- since you have some skill
[04:59] <genoobie> oh maybe you saw my posts in ##linux
[04:59] <TJ-> genoobie: I know, but we know when you booted a 3.0 kernel it worked... and now it continues to work with a 3.13 kernel
[04:59] <genoobie> there's another difference
[04:59] <TJ-> genoobie: Yes I just did, was away reading when you were typing
[04:59] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Me too // but I am straight now .. 2 primary partitons, / and /home - extended partiton and within the extended partiton the logical partition /swap.
[05:00] <genoobie> So what do you make of that change?
[05:00] <genoobie> I only ask so I can address that in the future.
[05:00] <genoobie> if I have to reinstall or fix something
[05:00] <FreedyTom> ObrienDave, hmm
[05:00] <FreedyTom> i installed audio recorder
[05:00] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, ok so 8gig, 1mib before, rest after?
[05:00] <FreedyTom> but nothing is recording
[05:00] <genoobie> so when I did rfkill llist all something like 3: phy0: wireless LAN
[05:01] <genoobie> then 2: then 1:
[05:01] <genoobie> now finally 0: and it works
[05:01] <genoobie> there seems to be a relationship
[05:01] <TJ-> genoobie: see my response to that in ##linux :)
[05:01] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Yep, that will be fine .. when we set up /home we do it then as "free space preceeding" 1 Mib.
[05:02] <genoobie> I'l stay in linux
[05:03] <ObrienDave> FreedyTom, ok, sec, please
[05:04] <FreedyTom> no worries
[05:06] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, 8gig primary partition, ext4?
[05:06] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: yes .. for ext4 .
[05:06] <TJ-> genoobie_: what now?
[05:06] <noob_saibot_> is there a way to erase my windows 7 partition?
[05:07] <cfhowlett> noob_saibot_ live USB, gparted, select and delete win7 partition
[05:08] <noob_saibot_> so do i get gparted run it on boot?
[05:08] <cfhowlett> noob_saibot_ boot from Ubuntu USB
[05:08] <noob_saibot_> oh
[05:08] <noob_saibot_> then run gparted?
[05:08] <cfhowlett> noob_saibot_ yep
[05:09] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, k done
[05:09] <noob_saibot_> I better move all my stuff in this part of the disk now.
[05:09] <ObrienDave> FreedyTom, ok, let's try to run PulseAudio Volume Control
[05:10] <FreedyTom> ok
[05:10] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: im here. i just read an installtion guide https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/installation-guide/amd64/ch06s03.html#di-partition maybe we can try installing ubuntu in LVM. i notice that we have problems in space where we can install ubuntu.
[05:10] <FreedyTom> ObrienDave, i'm in built-in analog stereo.. port: rear-microphone
[05:10] <ObrienDave> FreedyTom, should be in Multimedia menu
[05:10] <dqwe3> just a general question. can someone look through your OS like a trojan or virus? maybe through your software? spying?
[05:11] <noob_saibot_> yes
[05:11] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, wb, we can try a manual install, if you like
[05:11] <cfhowlett> dqwe3 of course.  no OS is uncrackable
[05:11] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Next for the /home parttion ... free space preceeding 1 , make the new size as 28,000 , primary , ext4 , label is /home .
[05:11] <FreedyTom> ObrienDave, i'm on 12.04 so might be slightly different..  i'm on input devices.. it has rear-microphone
[05:11] <FreedyTom> it's not muted
[05:11] <noob_saibot_> ubuntu is virsus free. right?
[05:11] <dqwe3> cfhowlett, how do you know if it is happening with ubuntu?
[05:11] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: i wouldlike that
[05:11] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: let's try it
[05:12] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, ok, get back to the Gparted program, buckle up and hang on ;P
[05:13] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: fastening the safety belt...... hehehe
[05:13] <cfhowlett> dqwe3 noob_saibot_ I've 2 user account; 1 with sudo privileges, one without.  the low privilege account is for daily use.  I also enabled my firewall.  have yet to see a virus
[05:13] <ObrienDave> FreedyTom, i'm thinking your input volume is turned down or off
[05:13] <noob_saibot_> do i have a fire wall on now?
[05:13] <noob_saibot_> how can i tell?
[05:13] <Bashing-om> Lost_x: ObrienDave Caution on LVM ... that is encrption, a layer of compexity that in times of troubles may not be able to overcome !
[05:13] <cfhowlett> !uwf | noob_saibot_
[05:13] <cfhowlett> noob_saibot_ firewall is disabled by default
[05:13] <dqwe3> cfhowlett, how do i get a firewall?
[05:14] <noob_saibot_> how do i turn it on?
[05:14] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, is your last pic current to the HD partitions? you hav made no changes to the disk
[05:14] <dqwe3> cfhowlett,they can only get through your OS with a virus or your password right?
[05:14] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: that was as i left
[05:15] <ObrienDave> Bashing-om, no LVM, check :)
[05:15] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, k
[05:15] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, ok, do you understand what sda, sda1, sda2 mean?
[05:16] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Ok .. set up the extended partition .. what is left for free space now ? ..
[05:17] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, let me get Gparted running on mine
[05:18] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: that's the equivalent of windows system partitions
[05:18] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, back in 5
[05:20] <grilo> iae rapaziada
[05:20] <grilo> gostaria de entender que q é isso?
[05:21] <BrandonC> Bashing-om,  http://oi61.tinypic.com/fe2s74.jpg
[05:21] <grilo> aguem ai
[05:21] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: look'n at om/fe2s74.jpg .
[05:22] <mnathani> How do I get Grub to work correctly when running a GPT system
[05:22] <mnathani> The first time I installed, it messed up and installed on MBR
[05:23] <mnathani> I am running software Raid
[05:23] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Let's see if 2 Gigs fits .. free space preceeding 1 , new size 2,000 alighn to 1 Mib , create as extended .
[05:24] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, its populating the 3rd when i make it extended partition
[05:24] <FreedyTom> Obrian: yeah ok.. i'll try and play around with that later
[05:25] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, yes but more importantly, sda is the 1st physical drive. sdb is the second drive, etc.
[05:26] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, sda1 is the 1st partition on 1st drive, sda2 is second partition, etc.
[05:26] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, follow so far?
[05:26] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: " its populating the 3r " a big enough number we want to make the extended partiton larger ??? .
[05:26] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: here's the gparted image right now  http://ibin.co/1UO3BUE9WqDy
[05:26] <Lost_x> yes
[05:27] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, i can make preceding 1, size 2163, following 1
[05:28] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: OK .. that would also be good.
[05:28] <BrandonC> lable?
[05:29] <adminewb> on trusty the software updater says packages are up to date, but then if I run aptitude it's finding things that are upgradable?  both are using the same sources.list so why would they disagree?
[05:29] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: ahh.. you can make that label /extended .
[05:30] <BrandonC> k
[05:30] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, ok, right click on sda2 and hit resize
[05:30] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, grab the RIGHT edge and drag to the left about halfway
[05:31] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: now for the /swap partion .. use all of the ectened ; create as logical , - no file system as swap has none, and label /swap .
[05:31] <Bashing-om> ectended/extended *
[05:32] <BrandonC> linux-swap?
[05:33] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Think it best to leave it as /swap --- so the installer recognizes what it is .
[05:35] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, k
[05:37] <BrandonC> http://oi58.tinypic.com/27wvjnk.jpg Bashing-om
[05:39] <pr0t> hi I am trying to repair my /boot because it got corrupted during an upgrade I am using boot disk repair and I decrypt my root fs and try to repair but it fails saying it can't because its encrypted, anyone know how to fix this?
[05:39] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: OK... I am tired for sure, the next thing is to install, "something else" option .. I would just as soon await a better time to continue, What we have set up,  the installer will change somewhat on the sizes, and a re-confirmation will be required to direct the installer as to what we want . Just as soon tackel this phase in the morrow.
[05:39] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, i can wait till tomorrow
[05:40] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, still with me?
[05:40] <crc32> so how do I see the hours on sunclock?
[05:40] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: yeap
[05:40] <crc32> I click on the E and nothing happens.
[05:40] <TJ-> pr0t: Is the file-sytem contains "/boot/grub/" encrypted, or is it a separate file-system mounted at "/boot/" ?
[05:41] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, let me know when you've done the tasks, please :)
[05:41] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: The set up looks doable to me .. one other check .. terminal command -> sudo fdisk -lu <- . see what the numbers are there.
[05:41] <pr0t> no, /boot is in the root fs :(
[05:41] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: im inthe gparted
[05:41] <pr0t> it would be nice to change that
[05:41] <pr0t> so that its not encrypted
[05:41] <Lost_x> seen the image
[05:42] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, have you done the sda2 resize yet?
[05:43] <Lost_x> not yet
[05:43] <TJ-> pr0t: You'll need to add "GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y" to "/etc/default/grub" and then do "sudo grub-install /dev/sdX" (where X is the boot drive letter), and then "sudo update-grub" in order for GRUB to be able to boot an encrypted file-system
[05:43] <Guest51369> g1988kumar@gmail.com
[05:43] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, ok, right click on sda2 and hit resize
[05:43] <Lost_x> how much space we need to allocate?
[05:43] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, grab the RIGHT edge arrow and drag to the left about halfway
[05:44] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, you can make them however you like, i'm going to try to give you 50-50 Win7 and Ubuntu
[05:44] <TJ-> pr0t: To do that, you'll probably need to use a Live ISO in order to create a chroot mount of the encrypted system, to run those commands in
[05:44] <pr0t> i get the error Path "/boot/grub is not readable by grub on boot.
[05:44] <crc32> Any body ever gotton sunclock to actually display the hours bar?
[05:44] <pr0t> ya i am in a live cd and uncrypted iut
[05:45] <TJ-> pr0t: this script of mine may help you with the chroot setup (it automates it): https://iam.tj/projects/misc/chroot-auto.bash
[05:45] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: resize/move is disabled
[05:45] <BrandonC> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7845791/ Bashing-om
[05:45] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: only "unmount" and "manage flags"
[05:45] <TJ-> pr0t: however, it may get confused by your encrypted root-filesystem. the steps in the script you can follow manually, though
[05:46] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, thought so because of the little lock symbol next to sda2, "unmount"
[05:46] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, now, resize should work
[05:47] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, make sure you grab the RIGHT edge or else it will take HOURS to move the partition
[05:48] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Looks good ! .. That should workie ! .. you are now a step above rookie level ( a separate /home is to be prefered ) we will discuss the learning curve related to '/' later.
[05:49] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: im giving about 276/200mb,
[05:49] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: free space preceeding is 0
[05:49] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: proceed to resize/move?
[05:49] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, / for os, /home for user files, swap so os can use like ram?
[05:50] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, you want all free space on the right, yes, resize
[05:50] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, at the bottom you'll see pending operations, apply
[05:51] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, this should only take a few minutes
[05:51] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: done, i have aobut 195Gib of unallocated space
[05:51] <ObrienDave> excellent
[05:51] <ObrienDave> right click the free space and hit "new"
[05:51] <pr0t> hey TJ so I did all that and still i get the error to set cryptodisk-1 in my grub
[05:51] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: sda2 is now 270
[05:51] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, well till tomorrow gnight
[05:52] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: done
[05:52] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Yepper, you got it .. seperate /home gives ya more options in particular saving data, and working with the file system, fault isolation and restoration in times of troubles ( may they never ever happen, but it can ).
[05:52] <ObrienDave> lost, if that's ok with you, all is good so far, if you want more Ubuntu space, now is the time to adjust it
[05:52] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: it says here - create as "primary partition" and file system is ext4
[05:53] <ObrienDave> Lost_x,
[05:53] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, it should be an extended partition
[05:53] <TJ-> pr0t: do you know which partition on the disk is the encrypted? if it were #1 you'd do something like "insmod cryptodisk" and then "cryptomount hd0,msdos1" at which point you should be asked for the pass-phrase. If that succeeds you'd see "slot 0 open" and then you do "insmod normal" then "normal" to get to the GRUB menu
[05:53] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: and the label is "blank"?
[05:53] <ObrienDave> for now
[05:54] <pr0t> sorry TJ I was using a 1 instead of a y, it worked, let me reboot and see if it worked overall
[05:54] <mnathani> grub keeps insisting on installing to the master boot record of my first hard drive
[05:54] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, it should also show as sda3
[05:54] <mnathani> how do I get it to install in the bios-boot grub partition
[05:54] <thunder> 新人报道，请问这种聊天室有什么规矩
[05:54] <ObrienDave> !cn | thunder
[05:55] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: it show "new partition #1 fifle system - ext4
[05:55] <ObrienDave> ok, go for it
[05:55] <mnathani> !jp | ObrienDave
[05:55] <thunder> join #ubuntu-cn
[05:56] <pr0t> TJ so that worked, but now for my grub options only thing I have to boot is *System setup :-/
[05:56] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, take a new pic please
[05:56] <Lost_x> ok
[05:56] <AlecTaylor> Hi
[05:57] <TJ-> pr0t: You mean at the GRUB boot menu?
[05:58] <AlecTaylor> Can't boot into Ubuntu, stuck on: "Starting enable remaining boot-time encrypted block devices"
[05:58] <TJ-> pr0t: I've never seen "system setup" on a GRUB menu, aside from a live ISO/DVD or similar
[05:59] <Lost_x> uploading....
[06:00] <ObrienDave> k
[06:00] <pr0t> TJ: yes at the grub boot menu
[06:00] <pr0t> for its setparams 'System setup' fwsetup
[06:01] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: http://ibin.co/1UOFEw7x5rje
[06:01] <TJ-> pr0t: That's the UEFI boot manager option isn't it?
[06:02] <TJ-> pr0t: is there some mix-up between UEFI and CSM (legacy) mode boot, or is it UEFI all the way?
[06:03] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, looking good so far
[06:04] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: so, there is where we can create space for "/", "/swap", and "/home"?
[06:04] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, you need to apply the pending operations, yes, first things first
[06:04] <AlecTaylor> Can't boot into Ubuntu, stuck on: "Starting enable remaining boot-time encrypted block devices" - http://askubuntu.com/q/501885
[06:07] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, press green check mark to apply current pending operations
[06:08] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: ok
[06:08] <ObrienDave> should only take a few minutes
[06:09] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: got an error
[06:09] <ObrienDave> what error?
[06:10] <J12B> Hi guys an urgent request. I need to low format my HDD, what OS should I put on my bootable USB for this?
[06:10] <Lost_x> sending you the image
[06:11] <Bashing-om> Lost_x: ObrienDave :: now that the Window's partition has been resized, have you ran Windows 'chkdsk' to make sure Windows is happy happy !
[06:11] <ObrienDave> Bashing-om, not yet
[06:12] <Lost_x> resizing windows is successful but the new partition it got error
[06:12] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, delete the new partition and apply
[06:12] <Lost_x> http://ibin.co/1UOItbgaWRBr
[06:15] <Lost_x> deleting...
[06:16] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, let gparted finish, then reboot into Win7 and run chkdsk c: /x      it will have to run after a reboot
[06:17] <adminewb> J12B have you tried spinrite?
[06:18] <Bashing-om> ObrienDave: Lost_x // think, in the now unallocated space ( after removing "primary partition #1) we want a primary partion for /, and extended partion for logical partitions /home and /swap ???
[06:18] <ObrienDave> Bashing-om, yes, do you recommend the chkdsk first?
[06:19] <Bashing-om> ObrienDave: Lost_x // YES, indeed, let's make sure Windows is Happy at the earliest oportunity.
[06:19] <ObrienDave> Bashing-om, was thinking extended for remainder with / /home /swap logical
[06:21] <adminewb> J12B for a security wipe on a hard drive, you want something other than "low level format"
[06:21] <ObrienDave> Bashing-om, but if you think seperate partitions for / and /home /swap is better, i agree
[06:22] <J12B> adminewb, what would you recommend?
[06:22] <Bashing-om> ObrienDave: That too, will work .. for some odd reason I am just the more comfortable with '/' as a primary partition when I can ..however, ubuntu will install happily into an extended partition.
[06:23] <adminewb> J12B, I have little experience in that area, just heard some tips somewhere
[06:23] <TJ-> J12B: no disks these days support low-level format under user control, that went out with MFM drives I think!
[06:23] <Lost_x> Bashing-om: ObrienDave, thi is not normal? got this when i shutdown ubuntu... http://ibin.co/1UOMIM0kXBtt
[06:24] <jwater> Hi all. How do I define hyper key in my newly installed ubuntu?
[06:24] <jwater> Thanks
[06:24] <TJ-> J12B:  most modern disks, if you simply want to erase them, you use dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX ... it used to require several passes with different data patterns but modern writing techniques dont' suffer that limitation
[06:24] <pr0metheu5> is gnome shell 3.10 available in the software center?
[06:25] <J12B> I am looking to completely erase everything from my disk(s), leaving a blanco diskdrive
[06:26] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, i don't think it's a problem yet. let's do the Win7 chkdsk first
[06:26] <Beldar> pr0metheu5, It is in trusty
[06:26] <J12B> I think this should be done thru an bootable OS on usb
[06:26] <Bashing-om> Lost_x: IO error, maybe Windows will fix it when the check disk routine from above is run ( ??) .
[06:26] <TJ-> J12B: correct
[06:27] <pr0metheu5> Beldar, I can see 3.8 but not 3.10?
[06:27] <Beldar> pr0metheu5, What release ubuntu are you running
[06:28] <Lost_x> ok
[06:28] <pr0metheu5> beldar, 14.04, which is trusty tahr, isn't it?
[06:28] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, Bashing-om back in 5
[06:29] <Beldar> pr0metheu5, I'm in 14.04 I use the shell and it is 3.10.4, do have it installed?
[06:30] <Beldar> you*
[06:30] <J12B> then here is my question. Which tool(kit) should I use to erase the disk? writing all bits to 0
[06:30] <pr0metheu5> Beldar, I don't remember if I installed it or not, but I don't think so o_o
[06:30] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: win is now checking the disk.....
[06:30] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: restarting.....
[06:31] <pr0metheu5> Beldar, can I just do sudo apt-get install gnome-shell?
[06:31] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: should i do some chkdsk again inside window?
[06:32] <Bashing-om> Lost_x: Yes, the recommendation is 2X on chkdsk ...
[06:32] <Beldar> pr0metheu5, yeah that is the install
[06:32] <adminewb> J12B just about any tool set derived from *nix will include dd, which can read /dev/zero and write your raw hd device
[06:33] <pr0metheu5> It says I need the evolution-data-server and gnome-contacts
[06:33] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, open CMD run, chkdsk c: /x
[06:34] <Beldar> pr0metheu5, And your concern is?
[06:34] <adminewb> there's mention in the system rescue CD of tools wipe and shred if you want more elaborate erasing
[06:34] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, it will probably tell you to reboot
[06:34] <pr0metheu5> Beldar, it won't install
[06:34] <Beldar> pr0metheu5, Is this a stock 14.04 canonical ubuntu?
[06:35] <pr0metheu5> Oh, it's Xubuntu!
[06:36] <Beldar> pr0metheu5, So what wont install you have to be exact in this info.
[06:36] <adminewb> someone venture a guess why aptitude would disagree with software updater on whether trusty installation is up to date?
[06:36] <pr0metheu5> Beldar, software center says "gnome: Depends: gnome-core (= 1:3.8+4ubuntu3) but 1:3.8+4ubuntu3 is to be installed"
[06:37] <Beldar> pr0metheu5, Even better run the gnome-shell install info in the terminal and pastebin the whole thing.
[06:37] <Bashing-om> adminewb: staged updates have been implemented .
[06:37] <pr0metheu5> Beldar, okay, hold on
[06:38] <adminewb> Bashing-om, how's that work? aptitude is finding updates for such as: upstart, compiz, nautilus...
[06:38] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: done checking 2x
[06:39] <pr0metheu5> Beldar, http://pastebin.com/XEASXiVZ
[06:39] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, reboot into win7 if ok reboot into Ubuntu DVD
[06:39] <Lost_x> ok
[06:40] <pr0metheu5> Beldar, do I need to do apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop?
[06:40] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, this time go straight for Install Ubuntu
[06:40] <Beldar> pr0metheu5, Now run sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and pastebin it before giving a yes or no to finish.
[06:41] <pr0metheu5> Beldar, together? update && dist-upgrade?
[06:41] <ObrienDave> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:41] <Bashing-om> adminewb: I am not as up to date as I might should be ( I also do command line) .. but the theory is that from the software center, 1st release is 10 % of availabale to all users, if no problems reported, then the next increment is released and so on .. Commnad line does not have these 'restrictions'.
[06:42] <Beldar> pr0metheu5 yeah or separately same thing, the key is hold at the end before a yes or no on the install, I see a held broken package warning on your first paste.
[06:42] <pr0metheu5> Beldar, ObrienDave; http://pastebin.com/xiSVM50L
[06:43] <adminewb> Bashing-om thanks
[06:45] <Bashing-om> adminewb: : D , I did not read the documentation .. the source is available via ubuntuforum iffen ya want to search it out.
[06:45] <v1ros> what other software could I use other than phpmyadmin Iam running  10.04 LTS with the latest version of APACHE?
[06:46] <Beldar> pr0metheu5, Can you identify what this is? http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release
[06:46] <pr0metheu5> Beldar, not a clue?
[06:47] <adminewb> it would appear then that aptitude offers updates associated with 14.04.1 slightly before official point release
[06:48] <Bashing-om> adminewb: Indications now are, as you are the second I have seen here tonight advising they are seeing 14.04.1 ...
[06:48] <pr0metheu5> do I need some ppa, maybe?
[06:49] <ObrienDave> Bashing-om, i have 14.04.1
[06:49] <Flannel> adminewb: 14.04.1 doesn't mean anything to updaters, it's just a roll-up of releases and a chance to update the installation media, etc.
[06:49] <adminewb> understood
[06:50] <Bashing-om> ObrienDave: Well ! let me update and see what I come up with ... huh ?
[06:50] <ObrienDave> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[06:50] <adminewb> there are base-files changes to consider, too
[06:50] <Beldar> pr0metheu5, a ppa no, you have spotify, I'm not sure what it is or does to an install. I would think a stock xubuntu would allow a gnome-shell install is all.
[06:51] <Lost_x> restarted win twice and its ok
[06:51] <ObrienDave> Bashing-om, cat /etc/issue
[06:51] <Lost_x> booting to ubuntu now
[06:51] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, very good, go for install
[06:51] <lord4163> Where is the download for 14.04.1?
[06:52] <ObrienDave> lord4163, it's just an upgrade afaik
[06:52] <Bashing-om> ObrienDave: Do not know when it happened, update/upgrade was 0 0 0 0 ... but lsb_release -a -> Description:    Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS ... welll welll .
[06:53] <ObrienDave> Bashing-om, i was surprised as well, mine showed up 2 days ago LOL
[06:54] <lord4163> ObrienDave: Yes but I want the newly baked ISO.
[06:54] <ObrienDave> yesterday 08:32
[06:55] <adminewb> find newly baked ISO images at http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[06:55] <JGuichard> hi
[06:56] <lord4163> adminewb: That's 14.04
[06:57] <lord4163> They said 14.04.1 should be available today, not.
[06:57] <ObrienDave> lord4163, that does not necessarily mean a new ISO file
[06:57] <Bashing-om> ObrienDave: Lost_x // Hey guys, past my witching hour .. I am going to become a pumpkin for a short time and get my beauty rest. I will check progress on my morrow.
[06:58] <ObrienDave> ok Bashing-om thanks for all of your help
[06:58] <adminewb> hmm so the ISO builders haven't caught up yet
[07:00] <pr0metheu5> Beldar, spotify is just a music client
[07:00] <JGuichard> does anyone know where Ubuntu was first created??
[07:00] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, back in 5
[07:01] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: ok
[07:02] <adminewb> lord4163 give them another 10 hours for ISOs to propagate through all the mirrors before panicking
[07:02] <Rohan_m> I dont know password of my user www-data but i have root access can i get his password or restore password
[07:02] <Beldar> pr0metheu5, Yes I looked it up, can't say exactly what the issue is, however adding a 3rd party repos can change the OS, we see a ppa trusty there not sure what that is, there is nothing in my sources list like that, its 3rd party as well.
[07:02] <adminewb> all the other stuff appears available for general use
[07:02] <allan_> hello
[07:03] <v1ros> hello
[07:03] <Lost_x> Bashing-om: im in installation type, still no "install alongside windows". i chose "somthing esle". igot sda1 and sda2 in NTFS and a sda3 of no type...
[07:03] <pr0metheu5> Beldar, okay, do you think you could also take a look at my /etc/sources.list file?
[07:03] <allan_> this is my first time using xchat. looks cool
[07:04] <Beldar> pr0metheu5, Just guessing on this however, without all the stuff added or associated to those two additional repos it is hit or miss and not sure I would know if I saw all that.
[07:04] <Lost_x> Bashing-om: should i proceed to install ubuntu now?
[07:04] <Rohan_m> I dont know password of my user www-data but i have root access can i get his password or restore password
[07:04] <pr0metheu5> Beldar, is there any gnome 3 related ppa that's supposed to be there by default that I might have accidentally removed?
[07:04] <pr0metheu5> Beldar, like gnome3next or something
 you can reset the passcode
[07:05] <Rohan_m> v1ros: how ?
[07:05] <chrissg> @allan_: Try hexchat, it's even cooler :)
[07:05] <Beldar> pr0metheu5, PPA's are third party never on a stock install.
[07:05] <Beldar> on=in
 you using phpmyadmin?
[07:06] <Rohan_m> v1ros: o.O php my admin ? How ? well i have PHP my admin on my server
[07:06] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, back
 well loging and reset the passcode
[07:06] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: Bashing-om: im in installation type, still no "install alongside windows". i chose "somthing esle". igot sda1 and sda2 in NTFS and a sda3 of no type...
[07:07] <Beldar> pr0metheu5, This is beyond my help to be honest.
[07:07] <Rohan_m> v1ros: i wat database should i look which table ? n which coloumn ?
[07:07] <pr0metheu5> Beldar, okay, thanks a lot for trying
 its for a user correct?
[07:07] <antii> hi.. recently installed ubuntu server. i'm having a problem with ssh timeouts (never happend with my other distributions).. I can see that TCPKeepAlive is enabled in sshd_config but it doesen't seem to do anything.
[07:07] <Rohan_m> v1ros: yes user is  www-data
[07:08] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, ok, in sda3 make a new partition of 25G, format and mount as /
  its not for an admin ?
[07:08] <Rohan_m> v1ros: no
[07:09] <Beldar> v1ros, You can tab complete nicks.
[07:09] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, ok, / should have 0 before, 25G and the remainder after
[07:10] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: new partition table button is disabled....
[07:10] <ObrienDave> unmount
[07:10] <ObrienDave> unmount sda3
[07:10] <v1ros> if you can login too phpmyadmin  it should be for root and you should have no problems setting up users and previlages etc...
[07:11] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: no right click
[07:11] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: only edit partition
[07:12] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, ok edit
[07:12] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: what should i chose?
[07:13] <samurai> hi
[07:13] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, new pic please
[07:13] <Lost_x> ok
[07:13] <pr0metheu5> Can someone help me figure out why I can't install gnome-shell? Here's a pastebin of the the terminal output http://pastebin.com/XEASXiVZ
[07:13] <samurai> how  install KDE 13.04 please
[07:14] <samurai> i ask in this channel
[07:14] <ObrienDave> samurai, 13.04 is EOL not supported
[07:14] <cfhowlett> samurai upgrade to 14.04
[07:15] <cfhowlett> !kubuntu | samurai
[07:15] <samurai> another version of kde?
[07:15] <cfhowlett> samurai 13.04 is no longer supported - end of life - no security updates.  consider your priorities
[07:15] <lord4163> samurai: Get Kubuntu 14.04
[07:15] <v1ros> you can install several shells and choose which one to boot into
[07:16] <samurai>  for using my desktop? change di icons ecc..??
[07:16] <samurai> the*
[07:17] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: http://ibin.co/1UOcM18eNjks here the latest image
[07:17] <samurai> i install kubuntu thank you, because no xubuntu?
[07:17] <v1ros> ?
[07:18] <cfhowlett> !flavors | samurai
[07:18] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, ext4
[07:19] <Lost_x> mount point is?
[07:19] <Lost_x> do i need to check the format this partition?
[07:19] <ObrienDave> none for now
[07:19] <ObrienDave> not yet
[07:20] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, apply
[07:21] <Lost_x> install now?
[07:21] <Lost_x> sda3 type is now ext4
[07:21] <Lost_x> but used is "unknown"
[07:21] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, ok, now right click sda3 and add new
[07:22] <Lost_x> no right click
[07:22] <ObrienDave> dang
[07:23] <ObrienDave> sec
[07:32] <ObrienDave> dang, i can't remember how to make logical partition
[07:33] <viscera> ObrienDave: fdisk?
[07:33] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, how much RAM do you have?
[07:33] <Lost_x> 4Gib
[07:34] <ObrienDave> ok, let's do this, delete sda3 and apply
[07:34] <ObrienDave> viscera, i'll need help with fdisk
[07:35] <viscera> ObrienDave: fdisk /dev/sdwhatever
[07:35] <viscera> ObrienDave: press m to see a menu
[07:35] <Lost_x> it is now a free space
[07:38] <ObrienDave> ok, new partition in sda3, 0 before, 25GB, remainder after. ext4, mount as /, format
[07:38] <ObrienDave> apply
[07:38] <bioman> Good morning
[07:39] <bioman> Looking for someone who uses latest compiz 0.9.x, ans having in animation effect roll up window working
[07:39] <lw> Hi, every body
[07:40] <Lost_x> still the new partition table button is disabled...
[07:40] <ObrienDave> unmount
[07:44] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, got it LOL
[07:47] <bioman> Looking for someone who uses latest compiz 0.9.x, ans having in animation effect roll up window working
[07:48] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, where are we at with this?
[07:50] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, still no new partition button in sda3?
[07:50] <[erk]hacker> hello
[07:51] <Tooth_> good day
[07:51] <Ridley5> hi Tooth_
[07:54] <Lost_x> still no partition button...
[07:54] <okdamn> hi!
[07:54] <okdamn> i downloaded the .iso of ubuntu i would like to install it on macosx partition via usb
[07:54] <okdamn> do i need to mount it on usb or just to cpy it into ?
[07:54] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, still unallocated?
[07:55] <cfhowlett> !mac|okdamn
[07:55] <ObrienDave> okdamn, ISO needs to be burned to DVD or USB, you just can't copy it
[07:55] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: what i did was, i went back to gparted then i created a new partition for the swap. but the remaining space was unallocated. can not create new partition because it is already four....
[07:56] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: but i proceed it anyway
[07:56] <okdamn> ObrienDave:  so i should mount it via disk utility on mac right?
[07:56] <okdamn> like any other os !?
[07:56] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, we need to do this in the install "something else"
[07:57] <ObrienDave> okdamn, sorry i know nothing about macs
[07:57] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: so i got sda1 for the recovery system of windows, sda2 for the windows7, sda3 for the "/" in ext type and sda4 for the swap. though, i still have unallocated space
[07:57] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, delete sda4
[07:58] <[erk]hacker> http://cbm.amu.edu.pl/system/files/hacker.jpg
[07:58] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, what size is sda3?
[07:59] <bioman> Looking for someone who uses latest compiz 0.9.x, ans having in animation effect roll up window working
[08:04] <Lost_x> 190Gib
[08:05] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, delete sda3 and apply
[08:06] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, are you in gparted or the "something else" utility?
[08:06] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, yes, i know they're the same program but it will matter when we finally get these partitions right
[08:07] <Lost_x> i created the partitions in gparted, cant add new partition in something else ulility
[08:08] <ObrienDave> ok, you're in gparted now?
[08:09] <Lost_x> when i proceed the installation with only the sda3 it wont proceed because there is no swap
[08:11] <star_prone> Hi all
[08:12] <ObrienDave> it will but since you have 4GB ram you should have a swap
[08:12] <Lost_x> i proceeded it anyway just to see it what happens
[08:12] <Lost_x> anyway we can go back from start
[08:12] <Lost_x> its installing....
[08:12] <ObrienDave> ok, let's see what happens
[08:13] <ObrienDave> install 3rd party software (fluendo) but not updates for mow
[08:14] <ObrienDave> *now
[08:14] <star_prone> I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 and I have a problem with skype. The icon isn't shown in taskbar, it is shown only in unity's task bar on the left
[08:15] <star_prone> is this the normal behavior? other colleagues who are using an older version of Ubuntu don't have the same problem
[08:15] <kostkon> star_prone, install skype-wrapper to integrate it into the messaging menu  https://launchpad.net/~skype-wrapper/+archive/ppa
[08:15] <star_prone> thanks
[08:17] <kostkon> star_prone, after isntalling it, search for "skype" in the dash to access its settings
[08:19] <bioman> Looking for someone who uses latest compiz 0.9.x, ans having in animation effect roll up window working
[08:20] <star_prone> do I have to restart unity after installing skype-wrapper?
[08:21] <kostkon> star_prone, no, just restart skype I think
[08:21] <kostkon> star_prone, you can always logout and log back in if you aren't sure
[08:21] <star_prone> hmmm.... strange
[08:21] <star_prone> ain't working
[08:22] <kostkon> star_prone, the skype icon will now appear in the messaging menu not in the tray
[08:22] <kostkon> star_prone, messaging menu -> the envelope icon
[08:22] <star_prone> it doesn't appear anywere
[08:22] <star_prone> brb
[08:27] <fidel_> hi - shouldnt 14.04.1 be/get released today?
[08:27] <dexit> Umm.. is there anyone who can help me with Squid3 3.1.19 ?
[08:27] <DJones> fidel_: I suspect its out, when I connected to my server this morning, I got an update to 14.04 prompt
[08:28] <loctauxphilippe> fidel_, Yeah! I've tottaly forgoten!
[08:28] <loctauxphilippe> DJones, Thanks for the info!
[08:28] <fidel_> DJones: thanks
[08:28] <cfhowlett> fidel_ today is a 24 hour period ... patience
[08:29] <dexit> Umm.. is there anyone who can help me with Squid3 3.1.19 ? -> Meaning it was working till yesterday, after a huge fire and power outtage, it's not letting through http connections and giving me MISS/503
[08:30] <helmut_> hi
[08:30] <okdamn> sorry , installing via CD ubuntu then i'll be able to update ubuntu version?
[08:31] <cfhowlett> okdamn yes that's how it works
[08:31] <okdamn> cfhowlett:  great thanks
[08:31] <loctauxphilippe> dexit, What is Squid ?
[08:31] <okdamn> cfhowlett:  do i just need to put the .iso on cd?
[08:31] <somsip> !info squid | loctauxphilippe
[08:32] <dexit> loctauxphilippe: squid3 http proxy
[08:32] <cfhowlett> !usb|okdamn ubuntu is too large for CD =
[08:32] <loctauxphilippe> dexit, Sorry I cant help you... ;-(
[08:32] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: i have an installer crash.... sending report to developers :!
[08:32] <ObrienDave> okdamn, burn ISO to DVD, you can't just copy the file
[08:32] <okdamn> ObrienDave:  ok great
[08:33] <dexit> Umm.. is there anyone who can help me with (http proxy) Squid 3.1.19 ? -> Meaning it was working till yesterday, after a huge fire and power outtage, it's not letting through http connections and giving me MISS/503,
[08:33] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, damn, i think i have out partition issue figured out
[08:33] <ObrienDave> *our
[08:35] <Lost_x> maybe
[08:37] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, shall we try again?
[08:38] <Lost_x> we will try and try until we can perfect it :)
[08:38] <Lost_x> but i don't have more time now....
[08:38] <Lost_x> maybe 2morrow?
[08:39] <ObrienDave> ok, tomorrow is the last night until Monday, i work weekend nights
[08:39] <blueingress> Hi all, I do "sudo badblocks /dev/sda5", it gave me several numbers. does it mean there are many bad blocks on  the disk?
[08:39] <olivier_bK> how can i know who is the channel operator ?
[08:40] <svetlana> olivier_bK, this channel?
[08:40] <olivier_bK> no
[08:40] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, it is 1:40am Thursday here. how about you?
[08:40] <svetlana> olivier_bK, ok. '/msg chanserv access #channel list'
[08:40] <olivier_bK> i going to try thanks men
[08:41] <Lost_x> its, 4:41pm thursday here
[08:41] <Lost_x> im sending you new pic
[08:41] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, where do you live? Oregon, USA here
[08:42] <kevr> ObrienDave: your last name is OBrien?
[08:42] <ObrienDave> kevr, no
[08:42] <kevr> oh.
[08:42] <bcvery> !ot
[08:43] <kevr> indeed
[08:43] <kevr> !guidelines
[08:45] <dexit> Umm.. is there anyone who can help me with (http proxy) Squid 3.1.19 ? -> Meaning it was working till yesterday, after a huge fire and power outtage, it's not letting through http connections and giving me MISS/503,
[08:45] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: Ormoc, Philippines. One of the few places that was hit heavily by Typhoon Haiyan last November 2013...
[08:45] <bzf> Hi! I'm trying to boot my 14.04-install from my other disk, but grub just gives me an "you need to load a kernel first"-error. Any ideas?
[08:46] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, ok, thanks, i'll see you tomorrow
[08:47] <Lost_x> yeah. thank also  for the help....
[08:47] <ObrienDave> bzf you don't have a kernel on that disk
[08:47] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, wish i was not so rusty at the partitions LOL
[08:48] <bzf> ObrienDave: But if I mount that drive and look in the boot folder, there actually is
[08:48] <biledemon> Hello. I shouldn't expect any problems running a "superclocked" gfx card on Ubuntu 14.04 right?
[08:48] <Lost_x> you're not.
[08:48] <ObrienDave> grub is not looking there
[08:49] <ObrienDave> bzf, grub is not looking there
[08:49] <Lost_x> im will be shifting to ubuntu next year
[08:49] <Lost_x> just that all of my applicatons where developed in windows
[08:49] <fenakira>  /set beep_msg_level MSGS NOTICES DCC DCCMSGS HILIGHT
[08:49] <bzf> ObrienDave: Hmm okay, I assumed it looked there because the grub.cfg-entry has the line "initrd /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-24-generic"
[08:50] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, we'll get this to work
[08:50] <Lost_x> that's why i want to dual boot my new desktop
[08:50] <White_Cat> could someone assist me in seting up rsnapshot ?
[08:50] <Lost_x> i trust you.....
[08:51] <Lost_x> i still have my lappy at home with unallocated space ready for ubunto... :)
[08:51] <ObrienDave> bzf, grub also locates that directory by UUID, that's why it can't find your kernel
[08:51] <Lost_x> i we can make this desktop running my laptop will be next
[08:51] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, it's a deal :)
[08:52] <bzf> ObrienDave: So even if the UUID is set, it won't be able to find it?
[08:52] <ObrienDave> bzf, kind of beyond my knowledge of grub and fstab
[08:53] <ObrienDave> you need a fstab guru to help you with this
[08:56] <sakokap> how do i run  linux-clicky? its an app that make sounds when pressing keys. it says Run the main.py file and it will automaticly detect your keyboards and start clickytty click. double clicking on main.py just opens a text file.
[08:56] <Ben64> sakokap: py is python, so probably "python main.py"
[08:57] <k1l> sakokap: start it with python . but that sounds more like a keylogger :)
[08:57] <Ben64> sakokap: be very careful running random files from the internet because of yeah that ^
[08:57] <ObrienDave> that would drive me insane after 30 seconds or so LOL
[08:58] <rs14> greetings
[08:59] <sakokap> ben64 could u tell  me of an alternative for lubuntu then?
[08:59] <guest-GblKzM> hello
[09:00] <guest-GblKzM> use xubuntu
[09:00] <Ben64> sakokap: i can't imagine the demand for audio files to be played for every keystroke would be above zero
[09:00] <sagex> hey
[09:01] <guest-GblKzM> hey sagex
[09:01] <brontosaurusrex>  Ben64 why, i would be cool to simulate old typewriter
[09:01] <sagex> is there a channel for ubuntu development
[09:01] <cfhowlett> !contribute | sagex
[09:01] <brontosaurusrex> also nice for learning typing
[09:02] <usr13> Touch typing - gtypist  (the best).
[09:02] <guest-GblKzM> does someone have experience with making my ubuntu to an hotspot?
[09:03] <sakokap> :bronto
[09:03] <bcvery> sagex, #ubuntu-devel from: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[09:03] <usr13> guest-GblKzM: First, you have to have a wifi card that supports infastructure mode, (most dont).
[09:04] <sagex> #ubuntu-devel
[09:04] <sagex> thanks
[09:04] <guest-GblKzM> ok, thanks. it a an onboard..
[09:05] <usr13> guest-GblKzM: infastructure mode allows multiple users to connect and stay connected via WiFi.  A better solution is a wireless router that supports dd-wrt (which has hotspot features built in).
[09:06] <usr13> guest-GblKzM: (There is another one besides dd-wrt, but can't remember off top of head...)
[09:06] <sakokap> brontosaurusrex and also for people who must type while looking at the keyboard. disabled people, u know. :)
[09:07] <usr13> guest-GblKzM: There may be some software that emulates infastructure mode now-days, not sure... just so you know, I'm not really an authority on the subject so... FYI
[09:08] <guest-GblKzM> ok, thanks for info.. i try :)
[09:10] <karol_> s
[09:10] <karol_> :D
[09:10] <karol_> hi all
[09:24] <svetlana> Hi all. I've read man page of winbindd but I didn't understand what it does. I don't need to share files from my Linux desktop, but I need to resolve names of other Windows computers in the LAN, and read files from them. Do I need winbindd?
[09:30]  * fsdfs on
[09:30] <svetlana> fsdfs, hi.
[09:30] <fsdfs> hey
[09:31] <svetlana> fsdfs, how can I help you?
[09:31] <biledemon> Hello. I shouldn't expect any problems running a "superclocked" gfx card on Ubuntu 14.04 right?
[09:32] <fsdfs> svetlana, i'm ok, thanks. no problems
[09:37] <Hanumaan> after installing windows 8.1 grub is gone in 14.04 tried boot-repair (after burning it on a CD) but it just keeps doing doing something but nothing happens how to restore grub in 14.04
[09:39] <dexit> Umm.. is there anyone who can help me with (http proxy) Squid 3.1.19 ? -> Meaning it was working till yesterday, after a huge fire and power outtage, it's not letting through http connections and giving me MISS/503,
[09:40] <svetlana> can't help through the entire thing but I suspect that checking logs may be helpful
[09:42] <fidel_> mh - upgrading from 12.4 LTS to 14.04.1 broke my grub
[09:43] <fidel_> lucky that i used just a silly vm to test - but still unexpected
[09:47] <Rohan_m_> where is .ssh of directory of user www-data i'm unable to find it even though i made a connection to localhost
[09:49] <wheatthin> rohan, I don't think www-data has /bin/bash as a shell.
[09:49] <ketankul> hello all
[09:53] <wheatthin> You can become a member of the group www-data with your username, and then add a sticky for the group on the directory in question.
[09:53] <wheatthin> login with that username, and upload. It'll upload as www-data group and be read by apache2
[09:58] <White_Cat> Could anyone assist me in seting up rsnapshot? I have a second unformatted drive already. I want to have backups every day at say 23:00 to this drive. It should only keep track of the change so as not to fill the drive quickly.
[09:59] <MonkeyDust> White_Cat  you can do that with 'rsync -a' in a cronjob
[10:00] <White_Cat> um okay
[10:00] <White_Cat> I am fairly new to linux
[10:00] <White_Cat> can this be run automatically every day?
[10:00] <bekks> !cron | White_Cat
[10:00] <MonkeyDust> White_Cat  yes, with 0 23 * * * [command]
[10:01] <White_Cat> it would suto start on boot right?
[10:01] <MonkeyDust> White_Cat  'suto start'?
[10:02] <White_Cat> suto? not sudo?
[10:02] <White_Cat> I am very new to linux :)
[10:02] <MonkeyDust> White_Cat  if you want a cron job with as root, use    sudo crontab -e
[10:03] <White_Cat> so what command would I type to backup the entire drive to the second (backup) drive?
[10:04] <White_Cat> if something breaks I can restore from it
[10:05] <ikonia> Rohan_m_: there is no .ssh directory for www-data
[10:05] <ikonia> Rohan_m_: it's not a real user, it doesn't have a valid shell
[10:05] <MonkeyDust> White_Cat  e.g. :   0 23 * * * rsync -a --delete [source] [destination] <-- rsync removes files from your backup, if they are no longer in the original folder
[10:05] <Rohan_m_> ikonia: i gave it shell from /etc/passwd
[10:06] <ikonia> Rohan_m_: you should not do that
[10:06] <ikonia> Rohan_m_: that is very bad
[10:06] <MonkeyDust> White_Cat  an entire drive? that's different
[10:06] <Rohan_m_> ikonia: yeah lot of ppl told me that so i'm goin to fix it back
[10:06] <ddv> White_Cat: depends what kind of backup you want to make
[10:06] <ddv> White_Cat: you could use dd, rsync, tar etc
[10:07] <White_Cat> well whats the better practice
[10:07] <White_Cat> the drive as one partition for data
[10:07] <gregf_> hi. i've installed ubuntu as a guest OS. Full screen mode was working before today as i'd installed the guest os additions
[10:08] <White_Cat> I just need help setting this bckup
[10:08] <MonkeyDust> gregf_  in virtualbox?
[10:08] <White_Cat> I haave been struggling with this for the past 3 days
[10:08] <gregf_> for some reason its switched back again to the small screen after rebooting the vm
[10:08] <gregf_> MonkeyDust: yeah
[10:08] <White_Cat> I dont want to beak something and I dont want to have a backup that doesnt backup well ue to some config issue
[10:09] <gregf_> MonkeyDust: is there something i'm missing :/
[10:10] <MonkeyDust> gregf_  right-ctrl F switches to full screen, but i have no clue why it switches back
[10:11] <MonkeyDust> White_Cat  you just want to backup your /home, or more than that?
[10:11] <gregf_> MonkeyDust: ctrl-F does'nt seem to work either :/
[10:12] <svetlana> Hi I'd like to remove lightdm, but xubuntu-desktop depends on it. Is there another smaller metapackage similar to xubuntu-desktop, which ensures that I don't break the non-gui things?
[10:12] <ddv> White_Cat: You could do a block level backup
[10:12] <ddv> White_Cat: It will copy partitions and filesystems also
[10:13] <White_Cat> okay
[10:13] <White_Cat> what I want to have is a backup I can restore even if I break linux
[10:13] <Ben64> svetlana: why remove lightdm?
[10:13] <ddv> White_Cat: dd if=/dev/yourdrive of=/dev/yourotherdrive bs=1M (keep in mind you will overwrite everything on yourotherdrive, including partitions.)
[10:13] <White_Cat> for quick painless recovery
[10:13] <White_Cat> so that I dont need to recustomise, install etc
[10:13] <svetlana> Ben64, I don't need it.
[10:13] <Ben64> svetlana: do you know what it does?
[10:14] <svetlana> Ben64, yes, I know that it shows the graphical prompt for username and password when I boot. It also switches users.
[10:14] <Ben64> svetlana: so then how do you plan to log in
[10:14] <ObrienDave> magic ;P
[10:15] <svetlana> Ben64, I don't even need graphical things. I'd like to reduce this install.
[10:15] <Ben64> svetlana: then go for it
[10:16] <MonkeyDust> !mini | svetlana
[10:16] <svetlana> Ben64, while doing so, is there a metapackage (such as "ubuntu-core" or something) which prevents me from accidentally installing essential things (such as networking, package manager)?
[10:17] <Ben64> svetlana: no, but you should know what you're removing
[10:17] <svetlana> MonkeyDust, I'm doing this from a system which is already installed. can I run something similar to the "installer" from within an already installed system? If not, then it's not useful (not at this point).
[10:18] <ObrienDave> you want to NOT install essential things?
[10:18] <svetlana> ah. from accidentally UNinstalling
[10:19] <svetlana> Ben64, ok, will do
[10:20] <ObrienDave> so, you're looking to reduce the bloatware? remove non-essential items?
[10:22] <svetlana> ObrienDave, yes, I don't need a lot of things
[10:25] <Mikerhinos> hi all
[10:25] <ObrienDave> greetings and welcome
[10:30] <bezaban> I have a very unresponsive VM average load of 2400, it is hardly responsive at all and running mostly any command is causing hangs.  top -> P doesn't reveal anything consuming a lot of CPU
[10:30] <compdoc> bezaban, kvm?
[10:30] <bezaban> thinking disk IO, but this is on a SAN with SAS drives
[10:30] <bezaban> esxi
[10:31] <bezaban> and san looks fine.  Not sure what I'm asking here, as I have no idea what is causing it
[10:32] <compdoc> san meaning the disk access is over a connection?
[10:32] <bezaban> struggling to get dmesg output.  Might have to reboot it
[10:32] <bezaban> yeah, separate iscsi network.  Other machines on the same arrays are fine and iops are fine
[10:34] <bezaban> it's just a proxy too, but public facing.  I'll check fw
[10:35] <compdoc> it once ran well?
[10:35] <bezaban> yeah, it's been doing fine up until I noticed it in vshpere just now
[10:36] <compdoc> just curious, what does the VM do? what OS?
[10:37] <White_Cat> ddv how can I list my existing drives etc?
[10:38] <White_Cat> "dd if=/dev/yourdrive of=/dev/yourotherdrive bs=1M" seems to be th command you suggested
[10:38] <White_Cat> but wouldnt this overrite everything? I want the backups to maintain a history
[10:38] <White_Cat> so that I can roll back 2 days if need be
[10:40] <bezaban> compdoc: it's an ubuntu proxy
[10:40] <biledemon> Hello. I shouldn't expect any problems running a "superclocked" gfx card on Ubuntu 14.04 right?
[10:40] <bezaban> but we shouldn't be hitting that amount of load, especially not during summer
[10:41] <bcvery> !backup | White_Cat, have you looked at these?
[10:41] <compdoc> White_Cat, dont use dd unless you know what youre doing
[10:42] <White_Cat> I dont know what I am doing
[10:42] <compdoc> dd can destroy stuff
[10:42] <White_Cat> bcvery hmm... Looking
[10:43] <White_Cat> bcvery, I have a second unformatted drive already. I want to have backups every day at say 23:00 to this drive. It should only keep track of the change so as not to fill the drive quickly.
[10:43] <White_Cat> Wich tool would better serve me?
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> as of 14.04, I hate Ubuntu and its derivatives as much as I hate Windows, so the latter is free from charge
[10:46] <fidel_> MonkeyDust: why since 14.04?
[10:47] <bcvery> !info sbackup | White_Cat, try that
[10:50] <MonkeyDust> fidel_  heats up quickly, then shuts down, when i run software manager, or a virtualbox, or an online video (footage about the Ukraine air crash)
[10:51] <White_Cat> bcvery I use an ubuntu server
[10:51] <White_Cat> not desktop
[10:52] <Ben64> MonkeyDust: sounds more like a hardware problem
[10:52] <fidel_> White_Cat: rsync might be an option as well - just to name it (depends what you want to achive in detail)
[10:53] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  not in previous releases
[10:54] <Ben64> MonkeyDust: ok? still sounds like a hardware problem. could be a bug i guess, but still likely hardware
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  yes, 14.04 is not suitable for my hardware
[10:55] <Ben64> then run something lighter, like lubuntu or xubuntu
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  tried, not better
[10:56] <compdoc> ubuntu server with a minimal desktop is great for that
[10:56] <compdoc> I use Mate
[10:56] <formy84> hallo
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> compdoc  that's a creative solution, lemme try that
[10:56] <Ben64> MonkeyDust: then its probably a hardware problem
[10:57] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  yes,n it's a hardware problem on 14.04, not on previous ubuntu releases
[10:57] <Sverdar> ._.
[10:57] <Ben64> maybe the problem got worse
[10:57] <Ben64> heat up & shutdown is a hardware issue.
[10:57] <compdoc> actually, I use Mate because Unity doesnt work with vncserver or xrdp, and not because I use older hardware.
[10:58] <formy84> \LIST
[10:58] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  say hardware once more
[11:00] <formy84> \SERVER
[11:00] <formy84> \SERVER IRC.OLTREIRC.COM
[11:02] <foodoo> Will there be an official announcement somewhere when the Ubuntu LTS 14.04.1 point release is available?
[11:02] <Ben64> pretty sure 14.04.1 is already out
[11:03] <foodoo> Ben64: Does your /etc/motd say that you are using 14.04.1?
[11:03] <Ben64> i'm on 12.04, so no :) but people here have been saying it reports 14.04.1 already
[11:03] <stef_k> trying to upgrade a 12.04.4 server to 14.04.1 but do-release-upgrade states no release found?
[11:03] <ObrienDave> i have 14.04.1
[11:04] <foodoo> ObrienDave: thanks :)
[11:04] <ObrienDave> foodoo, there is no ISO yet afaik
[11:05] <foodoo> ObrienDave: I'll upgrade via apt.
[11:05] <foodoo> from 12.04.4
[11:06] <EbanSoul> Was wondering if any one knew of a better program for podcasts then radio tray ?
[11:06] <txdv> you want more userinterface or what/
[11:06] <juniour> hi
[11:06] <EbanSoul> ya the ui and more customization .
[11:07] <txdv> what customizations do you need?
[11:07] <juniour> i have problem wiht rrecord my desktop. i ahve bought logitech webcam c310 and it has micrphone too . i am not able to record audio throught that
[11:07] <juniour> help me
[11:07] <EbanSoul> wanting to be able to do searches from the app for more channels. and would like to have it show up in my notifications .
[11:09] <juniour> check this http://pastebin.com/tiLtUq4d
[11:09] <EbanSoul> Thanks
[11:16] <White_Cat> fidel_ I was told that and rsnapshot
[11:16] <White_Cat> I am unsure which to use
[11:17] <White_Cat>  I have a second unformatted drive already. I want to have backups every day at say 23:00 to this drive. It should only keep track of the change so as not to fill the drive quickly.
[11:17] <White_Cat> I just want to backup my ubuntu server so that i can rollback at will
[11:22] <Symmetria> sup all
[11:39] <BlackZero> youren?
[11:40] <bazhang> !cn | BlackZero
[11:54] <star_prone> where can I find the archives of this chat room?
[11:55] <Fuchs> star_prone: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[11:56] <Guest46238> ya i know
[11:57] <Guest46238> anybody know what type of chat client is this
[11:57] <Guest46238> it seems 1890
[11:57] <bee_keeper> Hi, on one ubuntu aws installation i was used to change users with 'su - myuser', for some reason when i do the same now I get only a '$' and no completion in shell.  Any ideas what the problem might be please?
[11:59] <Tlanix> Help
[11:59] <Tlanix> Hello
[11:59] <Fuchs> bee_keeper: that user having a wrong login-shell or said login shell being wrongly configured?
[11:59] <Tlanix> I have an issue with the fun brightness keys on my Acer v5 122p-0643 laptop
[12:00] <Fuchs> bee_keeper: first check what shell that is  (either in /etc/passwd  or via echo $SHELL as that user), then check that shells configurations  (e.g. ~/.bashrc  for bash)
[12:00] <star_prone> did anyone tried to install xfce4-notes under ubuntu with Unity as its desktop environment?
[12:00] <Tlanix> I finally got them working in Ubuntu 14.04 with kernel 3.16rc6
[12:01] <Tlanix> I tried to install catalyst 14.6 beta and now the fn brightness keys stop working properly
[12:02] <Tlanix> I am successfuly running catalyst 14.6 with kernel 3.16rc6
[12:02] <Tlanix> Just the fn+brightness keys stopped working
[12:03] <Tlanix> Any idea? Am I stuck using the open source drivers that came with the kernel?
[12:04] <Tlanix> Hello
[12:04] <bazhang> !patience | Tlanix
[12:16] <bee_keeper> Fuchs - perhaps user was created without a shell specified?
[12:16] <bee_keeper> Fuchs: ok thanks for the pointer.  i'll look into it
[12:18] <Quoexl> this is going to sound stupid, but, here goes, what format do I use to log a windows  7 box on to a visible samba share, I've tried HOST/jd \\host\jd and other sundry attempts
[12:18] <calzifer> when will be 14.04.1 released today?
[12:19] <Quoexl> just a few minutes before the download servers screech to a halt
[12:19] <ObrienDave> calzifer, it's supposed to be today, yess
[12:19] <Mikerhinos> I installed Lubuntu on a soft Raid-0, but now when I try to install another distribution I'm stuck in the step where live session is supposed to display if I want to install on full disk, partition manually etc...If I try a "blkid" in terminal, it waits forever...Gparted searches forever fo disks info too...don't know what to do :s
[12:21] <Symmetria> heh shocking how many ubuntu machines are out there running releases which are no longer supported or even available on the mirrors
[12:21] <Quoexl> if it aint broke...
[12:21] <Quoexl> I have a dapper samba server
[12:22] <brontosaurusrex> Symmetria, probably the release schedule  is shocking
[12:22] <Symmetria> http://197.155.77.253 <[12:22] <Symmetria> (thats a live visualisation of the east african ubuntu mirror servers logs)
[12:23] <Symmetria> something I been playing with
[12:23] <Mikerhinos> In fact I'd want to break my soft Raid to install distribution on single disk, and the other one I'll give it to my son because it's SSD and he has an old 5400rpm
[12:23] <aguitel_> 14.04.1 is up ?
[12:23] <Symmetria> heh its kinda a cool visualisation, gives you a nice view of whats going on beyond the standard apache logs
[12:23] <pgar23> Good morning all, I have installed dhcpd and configured the /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf file with a 192.168.1.XXX/24 scheme but when I type sudo service dhcpd start it says FAILED...any ideas?
[12:24] <fidel_> hi - anyone used to apt-cacher-ng? I am running a virtual server here which acts as apt-proxy for all our ubuntu-servers. this works great so far. now i am realizing that apt-cacher-ng might be as well able to serve other distributions. is that true? experiences are welcome
[12:24] <ObrienDave> aguitel_, no ISO yet, afaik
[12:24] <Quoexl> pgar23: should that be 192.168.1.0/24?
[12:25] <pgar23> Quoexl: yes it is
[12:25] <aguitel_> ObrienDave: ok
[12:25] <Quoexl> ok, thats the extent of my help
[12:25] <pgar23> Quoexl: Any ideas as to why the service fails?
[12:26] <Quoexl> my guess is dhcpd.conf is borked somewhere
[12:26] <pgar23> ya i figured too, thought I would ask
[12:26] <Quoexl> you did make a copy of the original right?
[12:27] <pgar23> Quoexl: the orig was blank, so no...lol
[12:27] <Quoexl> blank dhcp.conf?, hrm lemme look
[12:30] <Quoexl> pgar23: I just installed dhcpd and it switched to udchpd on me
[12:30] <Quoexl> on 14.04
[12:31] <pgar23> Quoexl: i am on 14.04 as well, what do u mean it switched up to udhcpd for you?
[12:33] <Quoexl> pgar23: go to /etc/default/ and see if there is udhcpd file there
[12:33] <cool_boy> Hello I downloaded a file which was already in my system so it added (1) ..in its name, name is this "openerp-client-lib-1.1.2(1).tar.gz". now I am not able to rename or move it. I am getting bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('errror
[12:33] <pgar23> Quoexl: checking. one sec
[12:34] <pgar23> Quoexl: in /etc/default I see ndd and useradd files
[12:34] <Quoexl> cool_boy: sudo mv blahblah(1).tar.gz newblah.tar.gz
[12:35] <Quoexl> ok what apt-get did you do to get dhcp installed?
[12:35] <cool_boy> Quoexl: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[12:35] <pgar23> Quoexl: forgot to mention, I am running CentOS 6.5 not ubuntu. But configuring a dhcp server should be fairly similar between distros...
[12:36] <Quoexl> ah...not so much
[12:36] <pgar23> Quoexl: I used sudo yum install -y dhcpd
[12:36] <brontosaurusrex> cool_boy, use quotes "name"
[12:38] <cool_boy> brontosaurusrex: it says mv: cannot stat ‘openerp-client-lib-1.1.2(1).tar.gz’: No such file or directory
[12:38] <Quoexl> pgar23: do you have an option in yum to install isc-dhcp-server
[12:38] <pgar23> Quoexl: checking
[12:38] <brontosaurusrex> what is your full command-line cool_boy ?
[12:38] <Quoexl> dhcpd does not exist in the ubuntu world
[12:39] <cool_boy> brontosaurusrex: openerp@ubuntu-Aspire-E1-571:~/Downloads$ mv  'openerp-client-lib-1.1.2(1).tar.gz' openerp-client-lib.tar.gz
[12:40] <brontosaurusrex> try: mv  "openerp-client-lib-1.1.2(1).tar.gz" openerp-client-lib.tar.gz
[12:40] <cool_boy> brontosaurusrex: error is mv: cannot stat ‘openerp-client-lib-1.1.2(1).tar.gz’: No such file or directory
[12:41] <cool_boy> brontosaurusrex: says same mv: cannot stat ‘openerp-client-lib-1.1.2(1).tar.gz’: No such file or directory
[12:41] <Quoexl> maybe mv openerp-cl* newopenerp.tar.gz
[12:41] <pgar23> Quoexl: no isc-dhcp-server...only dhcp.i686
[12:41] <pgar23> which is already installed an nothing to do
[12:42] <brontosaurusrex> mv open (click tab here, add quotes and so on)
[12:42] <Quoexl> ok, I'm no help, isc-dhcp-server is the ubuntu way
[12:42] <brontosaurusrex> bbl
[12:42] <pgar23> next step is to configure the dhcpd.conf file in /etc/dhcp/ which has been done with the 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 scheme
[12:42] <pgar23> Quoexl: No problem. Thanks for trying!
[12:42] <Quoexl> I've never seen a proper installation of dhcpd that didnt populate dhcp.conf with something
[12:42] <iptable> pgar23, configuration parameter names yes. package names and locaiton of configs, no.
[12:43] <iptable> pgar23, tried ##linux?
[12:43] <Quoexl> theyre mean
[12:43] <iptable> depending on the time of day they can be.
[12:43] <pgar23> lol iptable I will givve it a try
[12:43] <pgar23> thx guys!
[12:43] <cool_boy> Quoexl: thanks * worked, brontosaurusrex , TAB doesn`t work ifn '(' is in file name
[12:43] <Quoexl> like hitting #debian at bar closing time
[12:44] <Quoexl> I use * as much as I can, such as cd ~/Dow* etc
[12:46] <White_Cat> I am trying to setup backup through rsnapshot. This is my file list in root I believe: http://pastebin.com/PYavr6G4
[12:46] <White_Cat> which of these should I not backup?
[12:48] <cool_boy> is it possible to copy output of a command ??
[12:48] <Quoexl> White_Cat: do you have anything installed in /srv /opt /var?
[12:48] <cool_boy> eg I want to copy output of pwd
[12:48] <massimo> hello
[12:48] <White_Cat> I am not sure. I just dont want to break linux with this
[12:48] <Quoexl> if you aint breakin it you aint using it
[12:49] <White_Cat> if its empty I dont mind backing it up as I may install stuff there later
[12:49] <White_Cat> I actually ideally want to backup everything except the backup directory which is the mount of a different drive
[12:49] <White_Cat> or I perhaps can define that differently
[12:49] <Quoexl> myself I make a seperate partition for / and /home so if I blow it up I just reinstall and dont format the home partition
[12:50] <White_Cat> I just need a little help with the config
[12:50] <Quoexl> and backup the home partition to another box with rsync
[12:50] <White_Cat> only have a box with 2 drives
[12:51] <White_Cat> for the past 3 days I have been suggested different options rsnapshot seems to be the better bet
[12:51] <White_Cat> I am badly struggling with something I am told is trivial
[12:51] <bee_keeper> Fuchs: Yep, no shell was set for that user. i think on some versions, login shell must default to /bin/bash, on others there is no default unless you explicitly set one
[12:52] <Fuchs> bee_keeper: odd. Glad to hear you got it resolved, though :)
[12:52] <bee_keeper> Thanks a lot!
[12:53] <biledemon> Hello. I shouldn't expect any problems running a "superclocked" gfx card on Ubuntu 14.04 right?
[12:54] <massimo> Hey I've got a question! Why make two partitions "/ and /home" when I can put all to one "/" ? (I'm new)
[12:55] <Quoexl> massimo: if you bork your installation you go back and reinstall and it gives you the option of NOT formatting your /home partition thus saving your data and giving you a fresh install
[12:55] <compdoc> massimo, you can limit the size of /home that way. I always use one large partition
[12:56] <DJones> massimo: You don't have to, the benefit is that if you have to reinstall, you can reinstall the operating system and just set /home to the 2nd partition without formatting and generally without losing data
[12:56] <Quoexl> ditto
[12:57] <massimo> O.o that's true! <Quoexl>,compdoc> and <DJones>!
[12:57] <massimo> Nice idea!
[12:58] <Quoexl> I started doing that when I was borking dapper daily
[12:58] <Quoexl> trying to install everything that said server at one time
[12:58] <White_Cat> does anyone know how to use rsnamshot?
[13:00] <White_Cat> ##rsnapshot has only one person besides the bot (me)
 When you sa bork you mean fork?
[13:00] <Quoexl> no break
[13:00] <Quoexl> broke break borked
[13:02] <massimo> broken?
[13:02] <Quoexl> White_Cat: if you check out the switches and make a cron job running diff rsync every hour or so works well
[13:02] <Quoexl> massimo: back then I was seeing just what it took to break linux, every day
[13:02] <Ragnarr|2> Cheers
[13:02] <Quoexl> so I put my /home in a different partition
[13:04] <Somaya> i couldn't install ubuntu 14.04  via usb
[13:04] <Somaya> can you people help me?
[13:05] <Drecondius> !Grub-2
[13:05] <Ragnarr|2> will help when im home
[13:05] <massimo> Month ago when I didn't use Ubuntu, I made disasters so I had to format all ubuntu's part! Formatting make me stressed but is funny! :D
[13:05] <Drecondius> What's the grub channel?
[13:05] <massimo> Somaya, use UNETBOOTIN
[13:06] <Somaya> massimo: what is that
[13:06] <Somaya> you mean when i start my computer i should configure it?
[13:07] <ObrienDave> Somaya, a utility to write ISO to a bootable USB stick
[13:07] <massimo> ObrienDave, nice frase!
[13:07] <Somaya> massimo: i used virtual clone drive
[13:09] <ObrienDave> Somaya, you can't copy ISO to USB or DVD, it must be written as an image to either
[13:09] <Somaya> obrienDave:tnx
[13:11] <kulhas> hi, I am using ubuntu server and fdisk tells me this: "Disk /dev/mapper/inalentejo--vg-root doesn't contain a valid partition table" I already made a boot forcing filesystem check, but I dont know what it did, but the problem was not solved, how can I fix this?
[13:11] <massimo> Soamaya, best method is towards USB (Unetbootin) or writing DVD
[13:11] <massimo> By3 By3!
[13:12] <tuurtyret> or use Win32DiskImager or Rufus
[13:12] <loctauxphilippe> Is Ubuntu 14.04.1 is here?
[13:12] <ObrienDave> Somaya, burning image to DVD is more reliable. a lot of people have success with unetbootin. i am not one of those people LOL
[13:13] <loctauxphilippe> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[13:13] <DJones> loctauxphilippe: Not yet
[13:13] <loctauxphilippe> Thanks!
[13:13] <ObrienDave> loctauxphilippe, no ISOs yet, try dist-upgrade
[13:13] <loctauxphilippe> I have nothing...
[13:13] <loctauxphilippe> I will try tomorow...
[13:14] <ObrienDave> loctauxphilippe, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:16] <ObrienDave> loctauxphilippe, in terminal, cat /etc/issue
[13:21] <roknrola> hello there..any news about 14.04.1 release?
[13:22] <compdoc> I just wait until the news happens
[13:22] <ObrienDave> no ISO yet, afaik
[13:22] <axp882> hello all, im trying to create a samba share and cant seem to access my files. in mac os x i go to the connect to server and type in smb://ipaddofserver but it wont authenticate. Ive already added another user and set the smb password.
[13:22] <axp882> any ideas?
[13:22] <ObrienDave> you can, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:23] <jeffreylevesque> anyone familiar with UNetbootin
[13:23] <axp882> it says you dont have permission to access this disk, even as a guest user, which is enabled
[13:23] <Quoexl> it must be samba thursday or something
[13:23] <roknrola> it's not released yet right?
[13:23] <ObrienDave> compdoc, i have 14.04.1 already
[13:24] <ObrienDave> got upgraded tuesday morning
[13:25] <hypnosb> how can i find out 'what provides' ?
[13:25] <skilz> Is there something like Reason, Cubase, Fruity Loops for Linux?
[13:25] <axp882> when i hit guest it shows me the volumes i can mount and theyre right but when i hit ok it displays a you do not have permission to access this server error
[13:25] <hypnosb> I need curl-config
[13:25] <hypnosb> skilz, hydrogen
[13:25] <skilz> Thanks, need to do some stuff for M83
[13:26] <hypnosb> np
[13:26] <hypnosb> http://www.hydrogen-music.org
[13:26] <skilz> It's just drum sequences?
[13:27] <aguitel_> ubuntu boot in uefi mode ?
[13:27] <jeffreylevesque> anyone familiar with UNetbootin?
[13:27] <axp882> anyone?
[13:27] <quent1> jeffreylevesque, yes
[13:27] <ObrienDave> jeffreylevesque, a bit, yes
[13:27] <skilz> hypnosb, I'm doing this type of project http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DWQ-sKXuauTY%26list%3DAL94UKMTqg-9BX0296yQejFd4H18rVNM4e&h=aAQEzqzNZ
[13:28] <jeffreylevesque> I created a bootable stick on my macbookPro.  Then on my HP laptop i tried to boot from it.  It recognizes the stick, but doesn't boot from it
[13:29] <ObrienDave> jeffreylevesque, does your BIOS allow it to boot?
[13:30] <DJones> hypnosb: Looks like that file is included in "libcurl4-gnutls-dev" in 14.04 (along with a couple of packages having it) http://askubuntu.com/questions/359267/cannot-find-curl-config-in-ubuntu-13-04
[13:30] <jeffreylevesque> ObrienDave, it glitches kind of.  It only has "Default" under the big blue dialog box titled "UNetbootin".  It says "Automatic boot in 10 seconds ..."  After 10s, it glitches than counts down again
[13:30] <DJones> hypnosb: libcurl4-gnutls-dev, libcurl4-nss-dev and libcurl4-openssl-dev
[13:31] <ObrienDave> jeffreylevesque, then you have a bad transfer to the USB, try again
[13:32] <ObrienDave> jeffreylevesque, i suggest burning ISO to DVD, more reliable for me
[13:33] <jeffreylevesque> ObrienDave, So, I can use UNetbootin from mac to make a bootable USB, to be used on a non-MAC machine (i.e. windows laptop)?
[13:34] <tuurtyret> if Unetbooting not working, Win32DiskImager works perfect, try it
[13:37] <ObrienDave> jeffreylevesque, that is the general idea, i can't guarantee it
[13:44] <jeffreylevesque> ObrienDave, this is what I have done - https://github.com/jeff1evesque/audio-analyzer/issues/351#issuecomment-50018538
[13:48] <ObrienDave> looks reasonable, i'm way too tired to follow all of the mac stuff ;))
[13:49] <Akuw> hi i want to run minecraft-pi but got  bash: ./minecraft-pi: no se puede ejecutar el fichero binario
[13:51] <star_prone> is there a chance to install xfce4-notes on ubuntu 14 using unity?
[13:51] <cfhowlett> star_prone sudo apt-get install xfce4-notes
[13:51] <star_prone> ain't working
[13:51] <star_prone> :((((
[13:52] <star_prone> tried three times
[13:52] <AaronCampbell> Ever since the update to Thunderbird 31 (which I just did yesterday), clicking "reply" on an E-Mail opens an message like normal except that the "To" field is empty instead of populated with the From or Reply-To E-Mail. Is anyone else having the same issue?
[13:52] <star_prone> it installed it but it doesn't work
[13:52] <White_Cat> anyone here familiar with rsnapshot config? :/
[13:52] <cfhowlett> star_prone it's designed for xfce  not for unity.  pretty sure unity has its own notes app
[13:53] <star_prone> indeed it's designed for xfce desktop, but it works for cinnamon in mint, which is not xfce
[13:53] <star_prone> I thought it might also work for ubuntu
[13:53] <cfhowlett> star_prone a happy accident.
[13:53] <star_prone> and yes, unity has it's own notes, but they're not very attractive :)
[13:54] <star_prone> and bu default it doesn't
[14:02] <webfox> Hey guys!
[14:03] <Akuw> hi i want to run minecraft-pi but got  bash: ./minecraft-pi: no se puede ejecutar el fichero binario
[14:03] <webfox> I have a VirtualBox Ubuntu VM which I forgot the username/password. Is there a way to figure that out?
[14:03] <webfox> Could someone help me please?
[14:04] <Akuw> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[14:04] <webfox> Akuw: cool, checking!
[14:06] <skilz> How can I make different channels play?
[14:07] <skilz> Like music through speakers adn skype through headphone
[14:07] <feydrm> Is .1 on time and going to release today?
[14:08] <cfhowlett> feydrm wait a few hours and see
[14:08] <feydrm> cfhowlett: ;)
[14:11] <ObrienDave> doesn't anyone realize they can get .1 with dist-upgrade?
[14:12] <apfelschorle> quit
[14:12] <DeafGoose_> Hi all! anybody here familiar with liblognorm? I need some help
[14:13] <cfhowlett> !info liblognorm
[14:13] <DeafGoose_> I have installed it, however Im having some difficulty finding out how to run it
[14:14] <Guest50644> hello can anyone diagnose this is bad or ok from this paste http://pastebin.com/r9BAi8VJ ?what is use of multicast address 244.0.0.0
[14:19] <DeafGoose_> I installed liblognorm and when I try to run ./normalizer I get a no such file error
[14:23] <designbybeck> I have a clean install of Ubuntu 14.04 64bit, I downloaded the .deb from Steam website and this is what I'm getting: http://www.pasteall.org/53037
[14:23] <designbybeck> Any ideas?
[14:24] <nightdemon666> Any one here have issues with ipod ejecting it self randomly on ubuntu 14.04?
[14:25] <Guest50644> hello can anyone diagnose this is bad or ok from this paste http://pastebin.com/r9BAi8VJ ?what is use of multicast address 244.0.0.0
[14:30] <axp882> hey i just installed gnome from the software center but the activities overview and dock arnt showing :)
[14:30] <axp882> ** :(
[14:30] <axp882> any ideas?
[14:30] <nightdemon666> Guest50644 it does look like a lot of addresses on there, mostly the same address being your default gateway. The multicast address isnt a bad thing either, i think its the address used for communicating services the router performs. For example dhcp.
[14:30] <cfhowlett> axp882 logout, choose gnome session, login
[14:31] <axp882> i did that but still the dock isnt showing let me try again
[14:32] <Beldar> axp882, gnome-shell?
[14:33] <axp882> Beldar whats that?
[14:33] <axp882> im at the login i used gnome flashback
[14:33] <axp882> should i just login as gnome?
[14:34] <Beldar> axp882, The gnome 3 desktop, what is gnome to you?
[14:34] <axp882> Beldar im just looking for the launcher and activities overview
[14:34] <Beldar> axp882, Is this the ubuntu unity desktop you want?
[14:36] <axp882> Beldar what do you mean? im just trying to login and have the dock visible (like the gnome website shows)
[14:36] <Beldar> axp882, Link to that please.
[14:36] <cfhowlett> axp882 websitte?
[14:37] <axp882> http://www.gnome.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/window-selection-3.12.png
[14:37] <dexx> I'm brutally new to Linux, too, but I have a slight sense he might have accidentally hid the Activity bar?
[14:37] <jere> can someone explain this line: It locates the kernel source directory by taking advantage of the fact that the symbolic link build in the installed modules directory points back at the kernel build tree.? From this link:  http://www.makelinux.net/ldd3/chp-2-sect-4#?1#?1#WebrootPlugIn#?1#?1#PhreshPhish#?1#?1#agtpwd
[14:37] <Beldar> axp882, That is the gnome shell in ubuntu install it
[14:38] <dexx> you know, that thing, on the left by default with icons and stuff?
[14:39] <Beldar> dexx, Right click the desktop and navigate to its control, and address what may have hidden it like compiz tweaking.
[14:39] <axp882> omg im an idiot you were right log in again
[14:40] <axp882> the resolution was wrong and i changed it now vnc froze xD
[14:40] <freeone3000> Hi. Is there a way to upgrade from 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS while keeping X11 installed?
[14:41] <Beldar> axp882, For the record every question I asked was totally relevant, but you did not understand, it helps if you know the names and terms of what your using. ;)
[14:41] <cfhowlett> freeone3000 sudo apt-get dist-upgradei
[14:41] <cfhowlett> freeone3000 sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:41] <axp882> Beldar and thats why i installed linux in a vm, still learning. Thank you for being patient with me :)
[14:42] <sneakertack> cfhowlett: what's the probability that things go wrong during a distro upgrade like so?
[14:42] <AaronCampbell> Ever since the update to Thunderbird 31 (I just did it yesterday via the software updater from the standard repo), clicking "reply" on an E-Mail opens a message like normal except the From or Reply-to isn't filled into the To field
[14:42] <AaronCampbell> Has anyone else seen this?
[14:43] <freeone3000> cfhowlett: Alright. Everything was telling me to use the graphical update manager. I'll try that, and see if it breaks VirtualBox integration.
[14:43] <cfhowlett> sneakertack I can't assign a numerical probability.  I prefer to torrent the ISO, verify it, set it as a software source and upgrade from there
[14:54] <Kobbb> Hello. Do any of you know a file replication between machines software that does no copy the whole file, but diffs the binary file ? thank you
[14:55] <morpheus_gr> rsync does that Kobbb
[14:56] <jiohdi> btsync maybe
[14:56] <egon_> yesterday the update-notifier tells me to update apache2. Now ssl is broken. The ca certificate is not found
[14:57] <egon_> Does somebody know why the ca certificate is not found?
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> Kobbb: grsync for a GUI if you have a desktop :)
[15:03] <freeone3000> egon_: Did you (or the package installer) chance ca-certificates?
[15:04] <egon_> no
[15:06] <egon_> it was the normal synaptic update
[15:10] <Lunarial> Hi. There's a .encryptfs folder in my recently installed Ubuntu 14.04. It consumes most of my Ubuntu partition space. Can I delete it? I don't know why it's there.
[15:11] <SchrodingersScat> Lunarial: did you select encrypting your home on install?
[15:11] <cfhowlett> !encryption |Lunarial
[15:12] <Lunarial> I am not sure, honestly (as I installed four different distros on three different computers in the past two weeks). Is there a way to check whether I did?
[15:13] <axp882> hey im accessing a gnome VM from vnc but the resolution is too messed up. I cant change it because i cant hit the apply button. What should i do?
[15:14] <axp882> nevermind got it
[15:15] <teaearlgraycold> Is 14.04.1 out?
[15:15] <Symmetria> no
[15:15] <Pici> teaearlgraycold: Not yet, although some of the files are entering the staging process.
[15:15] <cfhowlett> teaearlgraycold sometime today = patience
[15:15] <teaearlgraycold> Okay great
[15:15] <teaearlgraycold> It's going on my server+laptop
[15:16] <ubuntu___> i'm trying to install i3-wm on ubuntu,  http://i3wm.org/docs/repositories.html followed this instructions to install it but i get errors
[15:16] <ubuntu___> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[15:16] <teaearlgraycold> I just randomly remembered that it should have been out sometime in July and then checked the milesone page. Chuckled when I saw this: http://i.imgur.com/YtbacFj.png
[15:16] <ubuntu___> i3 : Depends: i3-wm (= 4.8-1trusty1) but it is not going to be installed
[15:17] <ubuntu___>  Recommends: i3lock (>= 2.2) but it is not going to be installe
[15:17] <ubuntu___> Recommends: i3status (>= 2.3) but it is not going to be installed
[15:17] <ubuntu___> what should i do
[15:18] <iptable> ubuntu___, apt-get install i3 i3-wm i3lock i3status
[15:19] <egon_> After updating apache (ubuntu12.04) the client browser says it cannot download the certificate
[15:19] <teaearlgraycold> egon_, is the certificate file in the right place? Sometime that changes
[15:20] <egon_> what is the right place?
[15:20] <Lunarial> Is there a way to check whether home folder encryption is enabled?
[15:20] <Jaani> i want to search thru a directory for a string (the directory contains 500gb of file). is there a faster way to search for the string other than using grep?
[15:21] <teaearlgraycold> Honestly I don't know. I just remeber when I installed my certificate that I found like 3 different places to install it when googling around.
[15:21] <teaearlgraycold> If it's a personal machine you could just build a new certificate
[15:22] <egon_> teaearlgraycold: i think /etc/ssl/certs
[15:24] <tonygg> i pxe the machines in my cluster off of one cluster. all the machines are identical hw. currently i'm using 13.04 and want to upgrade to 14.04. the first thing i'm trying to do is update the nodes' initramfs and kernel. however when i upgrade from 3.8.0-19-generic to 3.13.0-32-generic i get a kernel panic related to eth0 device not existing. any ideas?
[15:24] <tonygg> i updated the way i always have; unpacking the image verifies the new img has the same conf as the old, working img. and all eth modules are there.
[15:24] <basketball> how did this person get google drive and google plus https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-nLbfYvoLfhA/U9BGccEdBEI/AAAAAAAAT1Q/df8-4Nxz41s/w506-h316/Screenshot+from+2014-07-23+17%3A11%3A44.png
[15:25] <clevas> Is there a way to install the latest ubuntu on a machine with no uefi along side windows 8.1?
[15:26] <Symmetria> Im curious to see if I see an increase on our mirror when 14.04.1 comes out
[15:26] <daftykins> clevas: you'd have to keep using the boot menu to manually boot each OS if you mix the types
[15:27] <clevas> I dont even have a boot menu
[15:27] <clevas> lol
[15:27] <daftykins> clevas: you might do and not know it, what kind of computer?
[15:27] <clevas> older dell dimension 5150
[15:28] <eeee> clevas: you can install ubuntu in legacy mode
[15:29] <clevas> legacy mode eh
[15:31] <daftykins> clevas: in that case Dells boot menu is F12 on startup typically
[15:32] <daftykins> eeee: but going mixed will mean hassle on every boot
[15:32] <daftykins> clevas: out of interest what's putting you off doing an EFI install?
[15:32] <clevas> I see what you're saying...my computer dont use efi
[15:32] <eeee> daftykins: i assumed his question was that it's an older laptop with no uefi but with win8 installed nevertheless... and he wants to know if dual booting is possible
[15:32] <eeee> am i wrong?
[15:32] <daftykins> oh, but you said windows 8
[15:32] <smarlie> Ubuntu 12.04 Update Manager offered hardware enablement stack update yesterday. It completed without any errors. On reboot the computer gets as far as the desktop then freezes and 'distorts'. Started following last answer from Dogsbody http://askubuntu.com/questions/493541/hardware-enablement-stack-hwe-out-of-support. Booted into recovery mode and did sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-lts-precise followed by hwe-support-status --verbose, which returns 'HW
[15:32] <smarlie> E is supported until April 2017'. After rebooting, the computer now seems to be 'fine' . Installing xserver-xorg-lts-precise also removed 45 packages including xserver-xorg-lts-trusty and ubuntu-desktop. Should I leave this alone as it seems to be working normally (did a 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' which returned nothing to upgrade or install) or does xserver-xorg-lts-trusty need to be installed?
[15:33] <clevas> i said windows 8
[15:33] <daftykins> eeee + clevas aaaah, ok sorry - i first read 'with uefi' not 'with no uefi'
[15:33] <clevas> So i do legacy then?
[15:33] <daftykins> in that case yep a standard legacy install beside windows 8 is easily done
[15:33] <clevas> would i still have to f12 it every time
[15:33] <daftykins> you could've booted media and installed by now ;)
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> smarlie: tried the Unity2D session?
[15:33] <daftykins> nope, that was part of my mistake
[15:34] <egon_> quit
[15:34] <clevas> Im watching a video on how to legacy install it
[15:34] <clevas> fairly new to linux here
[15:35] <biledemon> Hello. I shouldn't expect any problems running a "superclocked" gfx card on Ubuntu 14.04 right?
[15:35] <daftykins> biledemon: factory overclocked graphics card? that could be awkward actually
[15:35] <multihunter> hi
[15:36] <biledemon> daftykins, how so?
[15:36] <biledemon> daftykins, and yes, I mean a factory overclocked
[15:36] <daftykins> biledemon: depends on the type and whether or not you'll install the proprietary graphics driver to use it for gaming etc
[15:37] <multihunter> I'm trying to use winscp to login as admin then change session to root. I changed sftp serer to "sudo su -c /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server" When I have this line in visudo everything works fine: admin ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[15:37] <biledemon> daftykins, It's a Nvidia Gtx 780 and yes I will install the proprietary driver
[15:37] <kurfeld> Hi. How can I remove ftp connections from Nautilus? They are listed under "last used" but I can't do anything with them (just connecting).
[15:37] <multihunter> but I want to limit that NOPASSWD so I tried using admin ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server
[15:37] <multihunter> but winscp cant connect when I limit sudo for admin
[15:37] <multihunter> whats the problem?
[15:38] <smarlie> the computer is set to log in automatically. if coming from rescue mode the desktop is OK.
[15:38] <daftykins> biledemon: ok, well be sure to stick to supported ones... downloading from the nvidia site wouldn't be the recommended approach
[15:41] <biledemon> daftykins, Yes, I know. I'm just wondering if there's anything "special" with factory overclocked cards? like they use the same drivers and stuff?
[15:41] <jiffe98> is 12.10 not supported anymore?
[15:42] <smarlie> should i install the xserver-xorg-lts-trusty and try Unity2D? or try Unity2D with the desktop that is working now with xserver-xorg-lts-precise?
[15:42] <daftykins> biledemon: the overclocked settings are set in firmware on the card, so no
[15:42] <daftykins> biledemon: btw i'd recommend never to buy a factory overclocked card again, it'll die early... mark my words.
[15:45] <xangua> jiffe98: it hasn't for a year
[15:45] <xangua> !12.10
[15:45] <biledemon> daftykins, and how early is that? I'll probably want to update again in 5 years or so
[15:46] <daftykins> biledemon: do you have any idea how rich i would be if i could predict hardware failure?
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> multihunter  is that a server? if yes and you don't get an answer here, try #ubuntu-server
[15:47] <multihunter> yes its a server
[15:47] <dexx> congrats to me, I already had to use Alt+PrtSc+ R E I S U B :D
[15:47] <biledemon> daftykins, I've heard a overcloked card may last around 8 years instead of 10
[15:47] <dexx> dear lads, is there a common name for that command?
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> dexx  simply reisub, i guess
[15:48] <smarlie> ActionParsnip don't think so, automatic login is set up. should i install the xserver-xorg-lts-trusty and try Unity2D? or try Unity2D with the desktop that is working now with xserver-xorg-lts-precise?
[15:49] <Lunarial> Is there a way to check whether home folder encryption is enabled?
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> smarlie: just log off, then change session to Ubuntu 2D, then log in
[15:49] <oscar_> !12.04
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> dexx: I use:   killall -u $USER    in TTY1 personaly, same efect
[15:50] <clevas> i never caught how the legacy install was different from efi install
[15:51]  * fsdfs on
[15:51] <dexx> thank you ActionParsnip, however, in my case I didn't get to see anything except "oh, my desktop froze..."
[15:51] <daftykins> clevas: that's kinda beyond the scope of support really
[15:51] <daftykins> clevas: plenty of information online to educate you between the differences and the purpose as to why it exists
[15:52] <dexx> I might have to point out it's my first day using Ubuntu, I (unsuccessfully?) tried Kubuntu before
[15:53] <clevas> I know why it exists i just didnt catch in the video on how to choose legacy instead of eufi
[15:53] <acovrig> Is there any way to lock a user into a graphical program (like a kiosk)?
[15:54] <smarlie> ActionParsnip the computer is my mum's and I'm helping her via phone (nightmare) Great idea, I'll try Unity2D. thanks very much.
[15:54] <eeee> clevas: if your bios is setup to boot in legacy mode, the installation will run in legacy mode automatically, check here:
[15:54] <eeee> !uefi | clevas
[15:54] <btcxtrader> #bitcoin-otc-ru
[15:55] <mheinke> dumb .sh question. i cant remember how to check whether a warning exists.
[15:55] <clevas> ubottu i dont want it on uefi machines i need it on a legacy maching
[15:55] <clevas> machine
[15:55] <clevas> oh haha
[15:55] <switchtehbeat> Lol
[15:55] <eeee> clevas: there is information in that link concerning legacy as well
[15:55] <th3_mol3> anyone fixed the youtube flickering problem?
[15:55] <th3_mol3> http://alicious.com/flickering-flash-video-youtube/
[15:56] <th3_mol3> this didn't work for me
[15:56] <dexx> does any one of you use Autodesk Maya by any chance?
[15:57] <Symmetria> can anyone tell me if http://logs.mirror.liquidtelecom.com displays correct under browsers in ubuntu (or if it whines about needing more vlc plugins or something)
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> th3_mol3: I use CHrome, never had a flickering flash issue
[15:58] <th3_mol3> might switch to Chrome
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> Symmetria  it doesnt whine, it simply asks to activate vlc, then it show some pong game or so
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> it shows*
[16:03] <mmorey> does anyone know how to disable plymouth?
[16:03] <Symmetria> monkey heh thats not a pong game :) thats a web server log visualisation
[16:03] <Symmetria> in real time
[16:03] <Symmetria> heh, what you're seeing there is a visualisation of a tail -f of an apache log
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> Symmetria  great, all you have to do is activate the vlc plugin
[16:03] <Symmetria> monkey ok, still gonna try make an html5 version though :)
[16:03] <Symmetria> thanks though
[16:07] <Jaxinx> hi everyone, I have got a simple question, what is the difference between logical and primary partitions?
[16:07] <Jaxinx> Which one is better for holding data?
[16:08] <freeone3000> Jaxinx: For legacy partition (non-GPT) headers, you're limited to four primary partitions. Because. One of those primary partitions could, instead, be a set of logical partitions.
[16:08] <daftykins> there's no difference to data integrity, it's just that in the old msdos style, primary partitions are bootable and logical aren't
[16:09] <Jaxinx> So, when it comes to data integrity and also recovery for later, there is NO difference between the too, you are saying?
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> Jaxinx  you can make up to 4 primary partitions, but inside logical partitions, the number is much higher
[16:09] <freeone3000> Jaxinx: None.
[16:09] <daftykins> two, no
[16:09] <Jaxinx> I mean which one is more prone to damage?
[16:09] <freeone3000> Jaxinx: Neither.
[16:10] <Jaxinx> OK, thanks alot folks.
[16:10] <freeone3000> Jaxinx: The entire distinction is an artifact of a bygone age.
[16:10] <daftykins> Jaxinx: they're on one disk, that disk is susceptible to failure, not partitions
[16:10] <Jaxinx> daftykins: GOTCHA
[16:10] <TBotNik_> All: using the "locate -i content-" cmd and want to eliminate certain dirs, such as "/usr". Think regex does this but not good at regex.
[16:11] <freeone3000> Symmetria: application/x-vlc-plugin isntead of a proper <video> element? For shame.
[16:11] <TBotNik_> All: Repeating: Using the "locate -i content-" cmd and want to eliminate certain dirs, such as "/usr". Think regex does this but not good at regex. How do I tell locate to skip those dirs?
[16:12] <eeee> !patience | TBotNik_
[16:13] <TBotNik_> eeee: Sorry did not mean to "enter" the first time was not done!
[16:14] <Sevet> TBotNik_: locate -i content- | grep -v ^usr/
[16:15] <Symmetria> freeone heh
[16:15] <Symmetria> the video element was a problem
[16:15] <Symmetria> I couldnt make it work with mpeg4
[16:15] <Symmetria> and since I cant avconv to theo
[16:15] <Symmetria> I'm having to dual transcode
[16:15] <Symmetria> http://logs.mirror.liquidtelecom.com/index2.html
[16:15] <Symmetria> that one is html5 now :)
[16:15] <daftykins> Symmetria: please press enter less
[16:15] <Symmetria> just made it work
[16:17] <eeee> TBotNik_: if you want to delete stuff you can use find / -type d -name <dir name> | xargs rm
[16:17] <eeee> TBotNik_: use echo first to make sure it finds the directories you want to delete... it's a little dangerous
[16:18] <eeee> sorry, "rm -r" not "rm"
[16:21] <lucas_21> Hi everyone! I need a little bit help. I have modprobe kmod version 15 and... It doesn't have the option -l. What's the way to list all the modules of the kernel? thanks in advance.
[16:21] <TBotNik_> Sevet: locate -i content- | grep -v ^/usr  works!  Now the other dirs are from the multiple WordPress installs, one for each client site, that I have on my machine, over 100 of these, and will be */wp-content/* in the middle of a dir string.  What is right syntax for that?
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> lucas_21: sudo updatedb; locate *.ko | grep `uname -r`              may do it
[16:22] <eeee> TBotNik_: sorry my command is wrong, it needs a -exec, nevermind
[16:23] <TBotNik_> I'm searching for a bunch of content files I downloaded that I got lost to me, but know they are somewhere on this 1.5TB drive!
[16:24] <TBotNik_> eeee: They all start with "content-", but can not find them in folders I thought they were in!
[16:25] <jyg> Is there anyway to point an old 10.10 to get updates?
[16:25] <TBotNik_> eeee: Supposed to be out on my Dropbox drive, but not finding them there!
[16:25] <jyg> i've tried the old-releases change to sources.list and it gets me nothing
[16:25] <Rohan_m> I have two users "hum" and "raj" and a file "log.txt" in "raj's home directory" i want to access "log.txt" from user "hum" without changing permissions of file "log.txt"
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> jyg: no, Maverick is EOL
[16:25] <jyg> yeah, that's painfully obvious :)
[16:25] <Sevet> TBotNik_: grep -v /wp-content/ ... you can pipe through grep multiple times or merge them into grep -Ev "(^/usr/|/wp-content/)"
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> jyg: I suggest a clean install of Trusty which is LTS and supported til April 2019
[16:26] <Sevet> probably can do it in a locate pattern too, but using grep is easy :)
[16:26] <jyg> ActionParsnip, thanks, I wish i could.
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> jyg: the you will get no updates and no community support
[16:26] <Sevet> as for content- files, you could try find /path/to/seach/under -name 'content*'
[16:26] <jyg> ActionParsnip, i'm working on a clients old machine and something needs to be updated
[16:27] <jyg> can't just revamp the entire thing, not the budget currently in place either
[16:27] <Rohan_m> I have two users "hum" and "raj" and a file "log.txt" in "raj's home directory" i want to access "log.txt" from user "hum" without changing permissions of file "log.txt"
[16:27] <jyg> crap. this could kill the whole deal
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> jyg: there arent any packages, its like trying to get windows updates for Windows 98, they dont exist
[16:27] <jyg> eventually he'll have to spend the money
[16:27] <jyg> ActionParsnip, beats me wh they don't just leave it available w/o support
[16:28] <lucas_21> ActionParsnip, Thanks, all ok.
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> jyg  because most wouldnt understand why it's still available, if it's not supported, and thay'd want support
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> most people*
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> jyg: because after time there will be lots of old releases taking up lots of space, just for a small handful of users who wont upgrade
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> jyg: the feasibility is ridiculous
[16:29] <TBotNik_> eeee: OK using => locate -i content- | grep -Ev "(^/usr/|/wp-content/|/X11/)" and much much better! Going to send to .txt file and edit to find what I want.  Still over 500 lines of output!
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> jyg: this is why LTS releases exist
[16:29] <jyg> ActionParsnip, well not to beat it into the ground, but it makes more sense to me to confuse the few new comers who somehow install an EOL version rather than choke to death the old timers who know what they've gotten into
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> jyg: you can upgrade from LTS to LTS and miss the releases between, making upgrades easier
[16:30] <jyg> ActionParsnip, this is exactly why I've moved my customers away from ubuntu
[16:30] <Pencil_> hello
[16:30] <jyg> anyhow, sorry didnt want to get into an argumetn about it
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> jyg: if you want a rolling release, try Debian
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> jyg  and if old versions remain available, nobody would want or need to upgrade
[16:30] <jyg> ActionParsnip,  so in trying to upgrade one thing, aptitude inadvertantly uninstalled chrome. no idea how I'm going to get it back.  any ideas ?
[16:31] <jyg> MonkeyDust, why force people to upgrade?
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> jyg: grab the deb, install the deb
[16:31] <Brofist> any @ around?
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> jyg: its not a force at all, you cna use Maverick for a milion years if you want
[16:31] <jyg> MonkeyDust, i stopped using ubuntu on my desktop because multi-head display is broken and it still isn't fixed. so i stayed iwth my old version. when i couldn't update anything, and multi-head still wasn't fixued, i dumped ubuntu
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> jyg: you just wont get updates or support
[16:31] <eeee> TBotNik_: Sevet is the one helping you out not me :)
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> jyg: there is no force at all
[16:31] <Brofist> there is this person.. in pm harassing me.. is there any @ here can do about this things? http://i.imgur.com/aD6CDfB.jpg
[16:31] <jyg> ok like i said, i'm not here to argue about it
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> jyg: Im just stating the facts
[16:32] <eeee> TBotNik_: i'll be glad to help don't get me wrong, i'm still trying to see why find -exec isn't working :D
[16:32] <jyg> since aptitude uninstalled chrome, even though it wont install anything, is there a way to get it back?
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> [17:30] <ActionParsnip> jyg: grab the deb, install the deb
[16:32] <MonkeyDust> jyg  and an enterprise cannot simply change its policy for the needs of a few individuals
[16:32] <jyg> dont understand why it did all this prep in uninstalling when aptitude wasn't sure it could complete the process prolperly
[16:33] <jyg> thanks MonkeyDust, and as to my question?
[16:34] <Pencil_> Suddenly this morning I'm getting "Internal error" .
[16:34] <Pencil_> Reboot no help
[16:34] <MonkeyDust> Pencil_  when you did what, exactly?
[16:34] <eeee> TBotNik_: maybe there's more info you can pin down in the search? like creation time or size less than something ?
[16:35] <jyg> ok so, just arguments. thanks a ton.
[16:35] <Pencil_> I just did update yesterday so I'm sure that's the problem.  Running 12.04.
[16:36] <ne0_> Hi,
[16:36] <MonkeyDust> Pencil_  ok, what were you doing, when the error appeared?
[16:36] <Pencil_> The error appears when I start ubuntu.  But I tried going to the web and yahoo, it works.
[16:38] <Pencil_> I don't know how to reinstall without partitioning.
[16:38] <MonkeyDust> Pencil_  why do you want to reinstall ubuntu?
[16:39] <Pencil_> Because I think something is corrupt.
[16:39] <MonkeyDust> Pencil_  first try to find out what's wrong, then repair that
[16:40] <Pencil_> I'm a user.  Don't know how to do the necessary surgery.
[16:41] <MonkeyDust> Pencil_  is it a apparmor error?
[16:42] <Pencil_> I don't recall seeing anything like that.   Is there an error log ?
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> !dmesg | Pencil_ there's this
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> Pencil_  but can you work? if yes, simply ignore the error at startup
[16:44] <boriseto> Will there be a lot of problems if both 12.04 and 14.04 use the same home folder?
[16:45] <booj> can anyone say when 14.04.1 will be released?
[16:45] <Pencil_> dmesg show a lot of stuff.
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> boriseto  /home contains config files and they may be different for different releases
[16:46] <Pici> booj: sometime today
[16:46] <OssumPawesome> so my ubuntu web server says it has a bunch of updates every time i ssh to it, and if i sudo apt-get update it installs a bunch of stuff.  However, it will still say it has the same number of updates ready afterwards.  What's the deal with that?
[16:46] <lala304> hi everybody, any recommendations regarding a WLAN USB STICK which works out of the box with ubuntu 14.04? the wiki entry regarding "wlan cards" is a bit outdated :(
[16:46] <boriseto> MonkeyDust, thanks, as I suspected. And do you know if there is a way to use different small partition only for conf files or something?
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> boriseto  no, don't know if that's possible, i'm no help for that
[16:47] <boriseto> MonkeyDust, thank you for clearing that.
[16:48] <basketball> E: Unable to locate package grive-tools
[16:48] <Pencil_> Thank you MonkeyDust.   I'm going to log out and login back in so I can get a better look at the error.l
[16:49] <TBotNik_> eeee: Final cmd is => locate -i content- | grep -Ev "(^/usr/|/wp-content/|/X11/|/.Trash-1000/|/backups/|/Marketing/|/In-Active/|/EBM/|/C-Wines/|/FindPregnancy/|/Installer Packages/|/ndavis/|-openjdk/|/TBird-Exports/|/installer_unpacks/)" > /home/files/cont-files-list.txt
[16:49] <TBotNik_> root@New-Off-DT:/home/Projects/External/GDS/php_scripts# nano /home/files/cont-files-list.txt and shows me about 25 lines.  Most important the missing files were supposed to be in dir ../GDS, but got saved to ../GNN so you can see the confusion!
[16:50] <TBotNik_> eeee: Thanks got it now.  Lots of work today!  Cheers! Bye!
[16:50] <eeee> TBotNik_: cool, i've been trying to get find to delete the files, finally works after some googling find / -type d -name <directoryname> -exec rm -r {} +
[16:50] <eeee> somewhat of a seek and destroy command
[16:53] <basketball> E: Unable to locate package grive-tools
[16:54] <daftykins> basketball: that's a lovely error you keep pasting, does it come with an explanation in question form?
[17:04] <Alexander_T> sup guys, i installed the gnome-desktop on my ubuntu 14.04 installation and it worked, but now the windows in the gnome 3 desktop environment look like the ones from ubuntu and some are actually missing some borders. anyone know why this happend and how to fix it?
[17:05] <nwilson5> #postgresql
[17:05] <nwilson5> oops
[17:05] <nwilson5> sorry
[17:05] <freeone3000> Alexander_T: Gnome theming. Check gtk-theme-name in ~/gtk-3.0/settings.ini
[17:05] <basketball> daftykins,  when i try to install grive after adding the repo that is what i get
[17:06] <daftykins> basketball: right, we need full output including commands run, we're not mind readers
[17:06] <Alexander_T> freenode3000, can i check that via gnome tweak tool or do i have to do it manually?
[17:06] <Pencil_> My mystery internal error went away after some reboots.  Now I want to upgrade but it says failed to fetch.  Possible network connection problem but I 'm able to go to yahoo etc.
[17:07] <basketball> daftykins, sudo apt-add-repository ppa:thefanclub/grive-tools sudo apt-get update    sudo apt-get install -y grive-tools
[17:07] <daftykins> Pencil_: what version are you on?
[17:07] <daftykins> basketball: we don't support PPAs.
[17:07] <Pencil_> 12.04
[17:07] <Pencil_> Want to move up 12.10
[17:08] <daftykins> Pencil_: it's EOL, why?
[17:08] <basketball> daftykins,  so you cant help
[17:08] <daftykins> basketball: correct
[17:08] <Pencil_> Want to get up to supported versions
[17:08] <basketball> :(
[17:08] <Alexander_T> freenode3000, ah i got it! i changed the theme via the preinstalled gnome tweak tool. thanks!
[17:08] <daftykins> Pencil_: 12.04 is LTS, it's still supported :) 12.10, 13.04 and 13.10 are also EOL (unsupported)
[17:09] <Alexander_T> freenode3000, what i'd like to know is why this happend. is it a bug?
[17:09] <thephreak> checkin in, I'm trying to do-release-upgrade on a system running 12.04. and getting an error "WARNING:root:file 'quantal.tar.gz.gpg' missing". IS there any way to update at this point?
[17:09] <Pici> Pencil_: by later today (once the update is released) you will be able to upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 (if that is what you want to do)
[17:09] <DJones> basketball: Your best bet is to contact the ppa maintainer and ask them why you're getting the error, it may be they haven't released it for the version of Ubuntu you use
[17:10] <Pici> thephreak: 14.04.1 has not yet been released. Wait a few hours.
[17:10] <Pencil_> Sorry, I thought I needed to install the latest.  wanted to step up
[17:10] <thephreak> ah okay, so its today then hopefully?
[17:10] <Pici> thephreak: yep.
[17:10] <thephreak> fantastic! thanks
[17:11] <basketball> DJones, what does -y do when installing something in terminal
[17:12] <daftykins> basketball: auto agree, no prompt for yes
[17:12] <DestinyAwaits> is there a way to delete word by word on the terminal? Rather then deleting it character by character
[17:12] <DestinyAwaits> ??
[17:13] <eeee> DestinyAwaits: hold alt + backspace
[17:13] <clevas> When i go to install ubuntu along side windows 8 i get the picture of the little man at startup so this should mean that its booting in legacy mode. It still corrupts my mbr though!
[17:14] <daftykins> clevas: that's just booting a live session, it won't be touching the disk at this point.
[17:14] <daftykins> clevas: what makes you think it's touched the MBR?
[17:15] <clevas> because i always get grub error at startup then i have to repair my win8 mbr with rescue disk
[17:15] <DestinyAwaits> eeee: it worked and what if I start from start of the line?? Instead of a backspace.. I tried delete isn't working
[17:15] <DestinyAwaits> :(
[17:15] <basketball> daftykins,  will google drive come to ubuntu sone
[17:15] <basketball> soon
[17:15] <daftykins> clevas: so did you install? did you boot into the live session?
[17:15] <clevas> yes
[17:15] <clevas> yes and yes
[17:15] <daftykins> clevas: to which? there were two questions
[17:15] <daftykins> right
[17:16] <Pencil_> DestinyAwaits are you in an editor or command line?
[17:16] <daftykins> basketball: i am not qualified to answer that question, Google are a third party, what they release for Linux is irrelevant to this channel
[17:16] <clevas> I dont know what else to try
[17:16] <dexx> ladies and gentlemen, do you use Skype on Ubuntu?
[17:16] <DestinyAwaits> COMMAND LINE
[17:16] <DestinyAwaits> Pencil_:
[17:16] <DestinyAwaits> Command line
[17:17] <clevas> Im starting to think its not possible with my setup
[17:17] <MonkeyDust> dexx  what if we do?
[17:17] <Pencil_> DestinyAwaits can you left arrow or 'h' to before the wored and dw it out ?
[17:18] <Pencil_> word
[17:18] <Rohan_m> my www-data is unable to create directories
[17:18] <dexx> I'm not entirely sure whether it performs as it should on my instalation.. e.g. "file transfers" list simply didn't want to clear after my "Clear List" click
[17:19] <DestinyAwaits> Pencil_: Its not working on the terminal.. :(
[17:19] <Rohan_m> my www-data is unable to create directories
[17:19] <daftykins> Rohan_m: so you said the first time, but both times your question lacks detail
[17:20] <dexx> hm, okay, I had to "decline all" in order to clear the list, nevermind...
[17:20] <eightygrit> Rohan_m: Is it a umask issue?
[17:20] <Pencil_> DestinyAwaits - are you able to move to the left with an h or a left arrow on the cmd line?
[17:20] <Rohan_m> daftykins: i logged in as www-data via ssh so i was by default in my home directory that is www i thought of making directory there and it says permission denied
[17:21] <eightygrit> Rohan_m: Check permissions on the parent directory.
[17:21] <DestinyAwaits> Pencil_: nope
[17:21] <Rohan_m> eightygrit:drwxr-xr-x  4 root root   4096 Jul 24 13:13 www
[17:22] <eeee> DestinyAwaits: you can use ESC+F to get to the end of the word
[17:22] <dexx> now let me see if my Ubuntu crashes every time I put it to sleep ;)
[17:22] <daftykins> Rohan_m: so yu created a password for www-data? that's really really bad practice
[17:22] <daftykins> Rohan_m: which version is this?
[17:23] <DestinyAwaits> eeee: not working
[17:23] <Rohan_m> daftykins: yeah i did ! version of whta ?
[17:23] <Pencil_> there may be a set -o necessary.
[17:23] <daftykins> Rohan_m: ubuntu...
[17:23] <Rohan_m> daftykins: 13.10
[17:23] <eeee> DestinyAwaits: i meant ESC+F to get to the end of a word, then alt+backspace to delete it all
[17:23] <daftykins> Rohan_m: that's EOL.
[17:24] <Rohan_m> daftykins: sory 14.10
[17:24] <axp882> hey all was just wondering how to enable a samba server to work with os x. I think i have a problem with it. every time i try to right-click and select shar it gives me a "net usershare" returned error 255
[17:24] <daftykins> 14.10 is alpha
[17:24] <eeee> DestinyAwaits: you mean ESC+F isn't working?
[17:24] <Rohan_m> daftykins: let me confirm
[17:24] <cesci_fabr> hey
[17:24] <cesci_fabr> I have a short question I made a pastebin and I put it here
[17:24] <cesci_fabr> can anyone help me?
[17:24] <cesci_fabr> http://goo.gl/wWuNrf
[17:24] <leonixyz_> Hello, I have a problem with an old printer on Ubuntu 14.04, I found this bug report that is very likely the same as mine https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups-filters/+bug/998087 , but I cannot understand how to fix my problem
[17:24] <daftykins> !ops | cesci_fabr
[17:24] <axp882> also says invalid parameter for security
[17:24] <Rohan_m> daftykins: 14.04
[17:25] <DestinyAwaits> eeee: ESC+F is not taking me anywhere.. :(
[17:25] <MonkeyDust> Rohan_m  whatever you try to do fails, because 14.10 is not ready
[17:25] <DestinyAwaits>  not working
[17:25] <MonkeyDust> Rohan_m  ok, pressed enter too fast
[17:25] <Rohan_m> MonkeyDust: its 14.04
[17:25] <nikin> hi. I experience a problem. Have an installed base of ubuntu machines. And whenever power is cut while booting the next boot the system stops at the GRUB menu screen. problem is that there is no keyboard on the systems only a touchscreen so they can not advance in souch case.. is there a way to disable this?
[17:26] <nikin> running 12.04
[17:26] <Guest92467> allllright, dear folks, it does, so as it happens I have a question:
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> nikin  disable what?
[17:26] <nikin> MonkeyDust: i guess this is a security feature.. so on system failure the menu shows every time
[17:27] <clevas> maybe i have to install the 32bit to be able to dual boot with windows 8
[17:27] <dexx> I have a sense only my Unity crashes after waking my computer up, is there a way to access terminal or "task manager"?
[17:27] <nikin> So i want grub to allways continue nomather what.
[17:27] <MagicSpud> hey I would like to upgrade my ubuntu 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS but I cant see it available at automatic updates...any clue?
[17:27] <MonkeyDust> nikin  you can set the time out to 0
[17:28] <nikin> MonkeyDust: i did that. but that only works on normal boot. I mean it has no timeout when power is cut. it does not continue at all.
[17:28] <jeffreylevesque> can I format a usb to ntfs in ubuntu?
[17:28] <eeee> jeffreylevesque: yes, mk.ntfs
[17:29] <jeffreylevesque> thank you
[17:29] <eeee> be sure to use -Q option for a quick format
[17:32] <jeffreylevesque> I'm running my Ubuntu within virtualbox 4.1.10, i need to somehow be able to access the usb
[17:32] <qwertz007> I found a solution to my printer problem but don
[17:32] <qwertz007> I found a solution to my printer problem but don't know hot to fix it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups-filters/+bug/998087
[17:33] <abaday> Hi, I received a kickstartfile from someone. Can anyone tell me what this will do? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7848718/
[17:33] <Pencil_> DestinyAwaits - did you find your problem?  Are you in a default BASH terminal ?
[17:33] <nikin> MonkeyDust: several sources say to modify grub.cfg in a way. But thats quite hackish and an update-grub will just erase the solution
[17:33] <eeee> jeffreylevesque: i don't know if this would work, but you can make a file that represents the raw disk if it's a hdd, i dont know if it'll work for a usb too, check it out http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#rawdisk
[17:34] <OerHeks> abaday, ask that'someone' how this script is making a LVM with ext4 partitions
[17:34] <nikin> MonkeyDust: never mind... found it :) GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT=$GRUB_TIMEOUT
[17:35] <abaday> OerHeks: is this a kickstart or preseed skript?
[17:35] <eeee> jeffreylevesque: maybe you could add the usb as a shared folder ? i'm testing it right now..
[17:35] <OerHeks> abaday, you say kickstart
[17:35] <abaday> OerHeks: ok
[17:36] <abaday> OerHeks: I need to change it so /boot gets its own partition at the beginning of the harddisk
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> nikin  that's how good this channel is :)
[17:38] <OerHeks> abaday, can't help you there, ask the channel
[17:42] <abaday> mr channel, I need help with formatting a 8TB harddrive so that /boot is on its own partition at the beginning of the harddrive (sda1), and / on sda2. I have this kickstart script http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7848718/ but it doesnt have the /boot on its own partition. Can someone help me?
[17:42] <abaday> i want to use the same script but put in that /boot is on the beginning and on its own
[17:44] <jeffreylevesque> is there a command I can use to see if my usb is connected?
[17:44] <abaday> lsusb
[17:45] <daftykins> phunyguy: did you report the user in #freenode, sir?
[17:45] <phunyguy> is that a #freenode issue?
[17:45] <portlypine> Is there a channel for asking stupid-noob level questions?
[17:45] <mojtaba> Hi, Do you know how can I have more than one shell interpreter in a script?
[17:46] <clevas> So no one here successfully installed win 8.1 along side ubuntu in legacy mode
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> mojtaba  better ask in #bash, i guess
[17:46] <mojtaba> MonkeyDust: Thanks
[17:47] <thephreak> mojtaba, you could call the other interpreter as a command in a bash script maybe?
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> clevas  no one here installs win
[17:47] <daftykins> clevas: i just don't know where to start in assisting. did you buy 8 at retail to install on there, or what?
[17:47]  * OerHeks knows 8 Tb hdd are just announced, not available yet
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> 8TB? drool
[17:47] <clevas> 8 was installed first
[17:47] <clevas> Now trying to put ubuntu
[17:47] <clevas> corruption every time
[17:48] <Symmetria> heh 6TB disks are available but they still cost more money than sense
[17:48] <Symmetria> so I dont wanna know what 8TB disks are gonna cost
[17:48] <Symmetria> at the moment I run 36 x 4TB
[17:50] <daftykins> Symmetria: this is not the place for off topic chat, please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:50] <daftykins> clevas: right but did you buy 8?
[17:50] <abaday> OerHeks: my 8tb is 4x 4TB hdds with RAID 10
[17:50] <clevas> yes i did
[17:51] <daftykins> clevas: well, setup of 14.04 should've offered to write GRUB to /dev/sda and it should just work really.
[17:52] <Rohan_m> daftykins: Solved thanks a lot fella for your time
[17:52] <lolipopp> basichash: damn you're sexy
[17:52] <clevas> You use a lot of "shoulds" in your sentence
[17:53] <daftykins> clevas: would you prefer 'might' ?
[17:53] <abaday> I need help with a kickstart script for ubuntu 14.04. I need to alter this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7848718/ to squeeze in a /boot partition at the beginning of the disk of 256 MB EXT2. please!
[17:53] <clevas> The thing is i now know that should and might mean wont
[17:54] <daftykins> clevas: well they don't, but since you're taking this attitude i'm no longer going to assist, sorry. you're on your own.
[17:55] <linux888> hey there
[17:55] <linux888> which torrent client do you guys think is the best?
[17:55] <clevas> You're accepting defeat then because we just prooved it doesnt work
[17:55] <Rohan_m> GNOME > KDE
[17:55] <linux888> for ubuntu?
[17:55] <daftykins> clevas: no because i don't like your attitude. goodbye.
[17:55] <Rohan_m> for everything
[17:56] <xangua> linux888: you can try and use what you like the most
[17:56] <Rohan_m> GNOME > KDE in every aspect just cause nokia owns Qt this does'nt make Qt better than Gtk
[17:57] <linux888> k bye
[17:57] <ikonia> Rohan_m: what is your actual question ?
[17:58] <Rohan_m> ikonia: oh my question is solved i was just tryin to put up discussion on GNOME vs KDE what do you say ?
[17:58] <lolipopp> basichash: you have the perfect jawline
[17:59] <ikonia> Rohan_m: there is no "vs" discussion, it's just personal preference which you like
[18:01] <Rohan_m> ikonia: i was actually talking about performance purpose a basic window prompt takes up more resources in case of Qt while in Gtk it takes only few also Gtk is not wrapped up under lot of classes like that of Qt so I LIKE GTK AND GNOME FOREVER
[18:02] <jp_porter> hello there anyone know how to make compiz NOT load on start up
[18:02] <stan_man_can> My computers running windows 7 already, is there any way for me to set up a dual boot with Ubuntu without removing my windows installation?
[18:03] <Rohan_m> jp_porter: are u making one ?
[18:03] <daftykins> stan_man_can: yes ubuntu will resize the windows partition if that's what you want
[18:04] <jp_porter> no i just want to know how to stop it from loading up it sort of slows down  PC
[18:05] <patrick_M> having trouble on trusty with vnc server - can anyone confirm this as a problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/1274013
[18:06] <Rohan_m> jp_porter: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/NonGraphicalBoot
[18:07] <Bashing-om> jpentland: At the login box, upper right is a ubuntu logo, have you clicked on it and tried a different session ?
[18:08] <Bashing-om> jpentland: soory bout the ping .. jp_porter left quickly !
[18:08] <Rohan_m> Bashing-om: yeah he wanted to boot without "x"
[18:09] <Bashing-om> Rohan_m: : ) .. We can do that too .. huh .
[18:10] <Rohan_m> Bashing-om: yeah pretty cool !
[18:10] <Rohan_m> Bashing-om: take this for future reference https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/NonGraphicalBoot
[18:10] <ln6265431> Hello
[18:10] <Rohan_m> ln6265431: Hi
[18:11] <cillo531> any news when ubuntu 14.04.1 point release will be released?
[18:12] <baastrup_> HI can anyone tell me wich app/service who does the nvidia modprope at boot?
[18:12] <daftykins> cillo531: when it's ready
[18:13] <MonkeyDust> in CLI, what's the path to the software sources file again?
[18:14] <Bashing-om> MonkeyDust: /etc/apt/sources.list and 3rd party /etc/apt/sources.list.d .
[18:14] <MonkeyDust> Bashing-om  tnx
[18:15] <ln6265431> The Ubuntu have no voice suddenly,who can tell me how to deal with this.
[18:16] <MonkeyDust> my 12.04.4 sources.list is corrupt, can some pastebin his own (maiden) 12.04 sources.list file? tnx
[18:17] <genii> MonkeyDust: Just use the one at /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list as an example. It may not have Precise but some other previous release as the default, but easily changed.
[18:19] <MonkeyDust> genii  tnx
[18:20] <jbb> HI
[18:21] <Odd0002> hello
[18:21] <Pencil_> I go to the dashboard and click on downloads and it doesn't open.  Neither does Documents.
[18:21] <skulltip> what's a standard gui tool which shows how much ram i have
[18:22] <nevent> hey guys, can anyone confirm whether I should use the amd64 or i386 version of 14.04 server?  I have a AMD Turion II Neo in my HP N54L
[18:22] <d45611> hi guys.  I'm SSH'ing into a server running Ubuntu 14.04.  i'm trying to install weechat, and it's worked, but when i run it i get a perl error.  can anyone tell me what the simplest way to fix this is http://pastebin.com/rpqjAXLp     there are many suggestions online such as editing your .bash profile...
[18:22] <d45611> i tried the command update-locale LANGUAGE=en_GB.UTF-8 and i got this error http://pastebin.com/1fP675rg
[18:22] <vfw> nevent: Is it dual core processor?
[18:22] <nevent> Yeah
[18:23] <vfw> nevent: How much RAM?
[18:23] <acovrig> I’m trying to setup a virtual router: is it possible to set my guest’s mac address to (a specific) *:42 address, and spoof my physical mac to a random address so there isn’t a conflict?
[18:23] <nevent> at the moment, 2 soon to be 8
[18:23] <TBotNik> All: have .htaccess file in http://site/wp/content.  Content shown in PB at: http://pastebin.com/RuBGiNfM  but files are never shown.  This is test site and must work before content here can be moved/added to the wp site section!
[18:23] <acovrig> that way the router gets the same mac as my physical card, so my IP doesn’t change?
[18:23] <vfw> nevent: It is up to you, but amd64 would prolly be good to use.
[18:24] <vfw> nevent: It's what I would do.
[18:24] <nevent> That's what I was thinking, the better support for 32bit software threw me off though
[18:24] <TBotNik> What have I not done or done wrong?
[18:24] <daftykins> d45611: you should not be doing these things as root. you should not attempt to run an IRC/chat client as root.
[18:24] <acovrig> I don’t get DHCP address if I use my *:42 address for some reason
[18:24] <d45611> root is the username
[18:25] <Busserl> nevent: unless you know a package you need doesn't come in 64bit, I wouldn't excpect to have an issue with this.
[18:25] <nevent> yeah cheers vfw
[18:25] <d45611> that's the only username i was given for the server.....
[18:25] <vfw> nevent: Well, it just depends.  Now-days it's not much of a problem because you can use 32bit software on a 64bit system, you just have to load 32bit libraries, no problem.
[18:25] <daftykins> d45611: then you should create a dummy user to run programs as
[18:25] <d45611> alright
[18:25] <d45611> but, about the perl problem.....
[18:25] <d45611> any ideas on that one?
[18:30] <pbx> what happened to gnome-do? was it killed by unity and/or gnome-shell being "good enough"? or is there some other similar tool that everybody jumped ship to?
[18:30] <pbx> there hasn't been a plugins release in five years. https://launchpad.net/do-plugins
[18:30] <pbx> and the domain for the project domain now just redirects to game/porn pages
[18:30] <abaday> I need help with a kickstart script for ubuntu 14.04. I need to alter this http://pastebin.com/qFYdRcpn to squeeze in a /boot partition at the beginning of the disk of 256 MB EXT2. please!
[18:31] <rww> pbx: iirc docky forked from gnome-do, but that's last updated 2012
[18:31] <rww> pbx: i expect GNOME 3 happened.
[18:31] <bazhang> !info gnome-do
[18:31] <pbx> rww, gnome 3, gnome shell specifically?
[18:32]  * pbx looks up docky
[18:32] <rww> pbx: either that, or all the library changes, or... *shrug*
[18:32] <db1> hello i need help with x display
[18:32] <pbx> rww, what library changes?
[18:32] <db1> on ubuntu 14.04
[18:32] <rww> ah, there's a 2013 version too, according to /topic #docky
[18:33] <rww> pbx: erm, you realize GNOME 2 to GNOME 3 was not just UI changes, yes?
[18:33] <pbx> rww, i'm asking what the relevance is to user demand for gnome-do
[18:33] <TBotNik> All: Error from the dir is 404 error!
[18:34] <rww> pbx: ah. I thought you were also interested in developer interest. I think it's even less useful for me to speculate on what end users think than speculate on what motivates developers.
[18:34] <pbx> rww, all right, well, thanks for the info
[18:34] <db1> can someone help me with x display?
[18:34] <axp882> hey im trying to share a folder across the network, everytime i try to cleate it (right-click menu) i get this error: 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. Access Denied
[18:34] <axp882> does anyone know how to fix this? ive been at this damn thing for a while for what should be a damn trivial task
[18:34] <pbx> db1, ask your question.  what did you want to do, what did you try, what happened?
[18:35] <ln6265431> 14.04 Ubuntu have no voice.
[18:35] <db1> I can ssh into the server but I want to get the GUI to work also.
[18:35] <ln6265431> Is there someone can help me .
[18:35] <db1> I just can't do it on ubuntu
[18:36] <daftykins> ln6265431: what is your native language?
[18:36] <LordXe-gnu> db1: as in you want to do x forwarding?
[18:37] <db1> i'm not sure what you mean by x forwarding
[18:37] <LordXe-gnu> you want to launch a program over ssh that displays a window in X?
[18:37] <ln6265431> Chinese.
[18:38] <db1> sort of like vnc viewer from a windows perseptive
[18:38] <LordXe-gnu> you could do vnc also, sure -- just install a vnc server on it
[18:38] <LordXe-gnu> I guess it's not really clear what you are really trying to do :x
[18:38] <eeee> !cn | ln6265431
[18:38] <compdoc> db1, you need a 2d desktop, which isnt supported with current OS
[18:39] <Guest93174> hi, I installed kde-plasma-desktop onlatest ubuntu. Does anyone know why in unity it mounts my camera and phone but in kde it doesnt?
[18:40] <daftykins> Guest93174: sounds like MTP support issues, depends on the default file manager in Kubuntu, or if installing that package name is really enough to provide the full desktop of KDE
[18:40] <db1> ubuntu does not require vnc viewer though?
[18:41] <db1> i don't get it
[18:41] <Guest93174> so what should I install to get it work on KDE?
[18:42] <db1> from a windows machine i can VNC into my server, but on my ubuntu machine I can't get the gui to come up
[18:42] <SchrodingersScat> !VNC | db1: you can setup a VNC if you like, but there is also a feature of ssh to run gui on local machine
[18:42] <renebarbosa> db1, what's the OS you're running in your server?
[18:43] <db1> oel 6.4
[18:43] <renebarbosa> if you are using Linux you can enable X11 Port Forwarding
[18:43] <renebarbosa> it's easy
[18:43] <rww> (Oracle Enterprise Linux, for anyone who doesn't know what OEL is)
[18:43] <renebarbosa> I work with OEL too
[18:44] <kurfeld> Hi. Is there any trick to remove FTP connections from Nautilus? They are saved as "last used" connections. I will remove them from there.
[18:51] <aq676_89> hello
[18:51] <aq676_89> do we have ubuntu 14.04.1? or when?
[18:52] <infinity_> anyone know where i can get this package? the link provided does't work. http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/amd64/php5-cli/download
[18:52] <OerHeks> aq676_89, when it is finished, schedule says today 24th
[18:52] <Pici> aq676_89: sometime today.
[18:52] <aq676_89> ty ty
[18:52] <aq676_89> :)
[18:52] <db1> so does this have any problems with x-display?
[18:52] <db1> ?
[18:53] <OerHeks> infinity_, raring 13.04 is EOL
[18:53] <rksvy2> Hi: I need help with this error message and any pointers to recover from this once this error starts or even how to avoid this error completely
[18:53] <infinity_> OerHeks: there isn't an archive ?
[18:53] <OerHeks> infinity_, servers are down, so upgrade
[18:53] <infinity_> why is it on the package server ?
[18:53] <infinity_> cant upgrade
[18:54] <daftykins> rksvy2: you best use paste.ubuntu.com to share said error
[18:54] <compdoc> db1, what version of ubuntu?
[18:54] <daftykins> !eol | infinity_ see the last link here for how to upgrade from an EOL release
[18:54] <daftykins> infinity_: you'd probably be better off clean installing 14.04 though
[18:54] <paulus68> is it pôssible to run a smtp server on a virtual machine? and if so what would be the recommended disk size when there are about 2000 mails sent a day
[18:55] <pbx> paulus68, i'd just consult the docs for your MTA on the disk size question
[18:55] <daftykins> paulus68: you're better off getting a hosted solution
[18:55] <infinity_> yea. no can do. our stuff isn't compatible with the new ubuntu
[18:55] <OerHeks> infinity_, really?
[18:55] <daftykins> infinity_: in future you should develop for LTS releases
[18:55] <sheap> 14.04 says virtualbox-guest-dkms is installed, but the module isn't loaded :(
[18:55] <infinity_> looks like i need to make my own package repo in the future.
[18:56] <compdoc> paulus68, you can run many distros in a VM. and emails dont take up much room
[18:56] <infinity_> anyone know when the archive is going ot be online ?
[18:56] <Guest93174> daftykins: you know what I need to install to get mounting also work in kde-plasma-desktop?
[18:56] <daftykins> infinity_: the link tells you. it will never come back, it's renamed now.
[18:56] <daftykins> Guest93174: no
[18:56] <paulus68> compdoc I know it's just for sending out email notifications
[18:57] <compdoc> paulus68, so 20 or 30 G sized drive?
[18:57] <rksvy2> As per daftykins suggestion this is the error I am fighting: http://pastebin.com/t7edALq4
[18:57] <infinity_> daftykins: oh shit. perfect. how come nobody said there was an old-releases server
[18:58] <rksvy2> Once these errors start I have no choice but to reboot the server
[18:58] <daftykins> infinity_: i did give you the links. please tone down the language in here thanks
[18:58] <rksvy2> I would really be super grateful if someone can point to how to 1. Avoid this 2. Recover once this starts out
[18:58] <infinity_> daftykins: sh*t needs to be toned down? are you amish ?
[18:59] <daftykins> infinity_: either comply or you will be removed.
[18:59] <infinity_> daftykins: i didn't say i wouldnt comply. i just asked.
[18:59] <daftykins> channel policy.
[18:59]  * infinity_ needs to file complaint .
[18:59] <Guest93174> daftykins: if I would like to try my luck with kde full, shall I remove plasma before that? And does this kde full desktop have any chance to break ubuntu? Like adding some icons in main menu it cant display properly or something?
[18:59] <infinity_> lol
[18:59] <mmorey> How would I file a problem report?
[19:00] <daftykins> infinity_: seriously though, if this is your place of work - educate them on basing things on LTS releases, not ones like 13.04 that lasted 6 months
[19:00] <OerHeks> !bugreport
[19:00] <daftykins> !bug | mmorey
[19:00] <daftykins> Guest93174: i have no idea. never used KDE.
[19:00] <OerHeks> ah without report, thanks daftykins
[19:00] <compdoc> rksvy2, theres lots of hits on google, like:   https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=134249
[19:00] <daftykins> OerHeks: any time :)
[19:00] <mmorey> I cannot use ubuntu-bug.  It is not installed.
[19:00] <Guest93174> tok
[19:00] <mmorey> I wish to use the web interface.
[19:00] <Guest93174> *ok
[19:01] <rksvy2> compdoc: I saw alot of hits too and alot on ipv6 enablement.. that has not been enabled for me so too many of those hits did were not relevant.. hence I am here
[19:02] <compdoc> rksvy2, its about disabling, and its enabled by default. Are your cpus peaking?
[19:02] <sudo> what
[19:02] <rksvy2> Ok let me check again.. I checked my /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe... file and it does not exist
[19:02] <compdoc> what do you see is taling up the cpu time?
[19:02] <compdoc> *taking
[19:02] <Guest6716> teach me something cool
[19:02] <Guest6716> someone
[19:02] <rksvy2> Maybe it is a diff location for trusty
[19:03] <compdoc> rksvy2, here, I created this:    http://pastebin.com/U7DY64p4
[19:05] <dreamon> does anybody know when 14.04.1 is coming out?
[19:05] <OerHeks> dreamon, , when it is finished, schedule says today 24th
[19:05] <rksvy2> compdoc: thanks.. :-) (I happened to hit something similar also...) Thanks and sorry for the trouble
[19:06] <compdoc> rksvy2, but does it help?
[19:06] <dreamon> OerHeks, will it be finished today?
[19:06] <daftykins> dreamon: just be patient.
[19:06] <timmy_tofu> When it does come out, does anybody know if the downloads (ftp, torrent) will be changed for that version, or are new installs to simply install 14.04 and upgrade to .1 as existing installs do?
[19:06] <OerHeks> dreamon, yes no maybe
[19:06] <avignited> hi
[19:07] <daftykins> timmy_tofu: using 12.04 as an example, new media gets created
[19:07] <Guest6716> avignited, Hi
[19:07] <avignited> hi guest
[19:07] <avignited> any c programmers here?
[19:07] <Guest6716> yeah  me
[19:07] <Guest6716> :d
[19:07] <Guest6716> let us C
[19:07] <avignited> :P
[19:07] <imahuge_noob> Anyone able to help with intel graphics drivers?
[19:07] <avignited> hehe
[19:08] <daftykins> imahuge_noob: explain what's up then someone might be able to help if they know
[19:08] <rww> avignited: probably best off identifying to nickserv and then /join ##c
[19:08] <rww> !register
[19:08] <imahuge_noob> I just updated my hardware stack when prompted and now my graphics are having issues
[19:09] <gregor_> can I mix DDR3 1.35V 1600MHz RAM with a DDR3 1.5V 1333MHz one?
[19:09] <daftykins> gregor_: join ##hardware
[19:10] <imahuge_noob> daftykins: and Inte's download link for linux drivers ir broken, and the community portal only has the latest stuff for 14.04 (I'm on 12.04)
[19:11] <imahuge_noob> Intel*
[19:13] <OerHeks> intel should work OOTB, no drivers needed AFAIK
[19:14] <imahuge_noob> OerHeks: My workspace windows are just grey boxes now, nothing snaps to my screen and when switching workspaces it's no longer a fluid motion
[19:19] <daftykins> imahuge_noob: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log please
[19:22] <imahuge_noob> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/R3hDtEx7
[19:23] <daftykins> imahuge_noob: i see the problem
[19:23] <daftykins>      9.396] (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)
[19:23] <daftykins> [     9.396] (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
[19:23] <imahuge_noob> Interesting
[19:23] <imahuge_noob> So how do I fix that?
[19:24] <daftykins> imahuge_noob: first off show me the output of "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-dri"
[19:25] <bcc> ubuntu 12.04.. ufw disabled. Its only a local web server, but local traffic keeps getting added to iptables DROP. There are NO firewalls on it :(
[19:25] <amph900> my sis191 ethernet doesn't work in 14.04 - it kinda did if you prodded it with mtu 1492 but that doesn't work anymore either
[19:25] <daftykins> amph900: ancient SiS hardware? go back to 12.04 maybe
[19:26] <imahuge_noob> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/XD2PZYgE
[19:26] <amph900> the rest of my hw works better though, including my radeon
[19:26] <amph900> it's much faster in 14.04
[19:27] <amph900> just no working ethernet
[19:27] <daftykins> imahuge_noob: you're using the x-swat PPA i see there, your system is full of 3rd party PPAs
[19:28] <daftykins> imahuge_noob: anyway it installed, so reboot and re-pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log after please
[19:28] <imahuge_noob> K brb
[19:28] <amph900> and it's not much of an old controller
[19:28] <daftykins> anything SiS is ancient :D
[19:28] <amph900> gigabit, openbsd and windows are both happy
[19:29] <amph900> just not linux (and haiku, but who cares about haiku?)
[19:29] <daftykins> amph900: then you have a decision to make
[19:29] <amph900> buy a pro/1000 seems reasonable
[19:30] <axp882> hey im trying to share a folder across the network, everytime i try to enable it (right-click menu) i get this error: 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. Access Denied
[19:30] <axp882> does anyone know how to fix it? im tired to going around the web and editing the conf file
[19:31] <daftykins> axp882: i'd have given up on graphical sharing and installed and configured samba manually by now
[19:31] <axp882> daftykins tried to do that still having problems :(
[19:32] <axp882> i just want to share an attached volume to it
[19:32] <axp882> **to a mac
[19:32] <daftykins> axp882: what filesystem is on this 'volume' ?
[19:32] <axp882> daftykins ext4 i think
[19:32] <daftykins> can you confirm?
[19:33] <jay__> draftykins: Hey this is hugenoob
[19:33] <axp882> daftykins confirmed
[19:34] <axp882> its just a virtual HD i added with vsphere
[19:34] <jay__> daftykins*
[19:34] <daftykins> jay__: ok
[19:34] <axp882> daftykins what do you have in mind to share with a mac desktop?
[19:35] <jay__> daftykins: So it got stuck on a black screen at reboot so I had to hard shutdown. Then when I started it again it gave me an option to boot into 2 different linux version as well as a memtest option and whatnot
[19:35] <jay__> daftykins: I chose the first option and now I'm only in a black terminal interface using irssi
[19:35] <daftykins> jay__: ah yeah, recovery menu etc. etc.
[19:36] <daftykins> jay__: alright, well you can just remove that package again... but your system has the ubuntu x-swat PPA added along with many others, so you're not even running a properly stable standard ubuntu system really
[19:36] <jay__> daftykins: Should I just restart again or what?
[19:36] <daftykins> after removing that package yes
[19:37] <jay__> daftykins: What's the command for that? I don't remember the name of the package either
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu 12.04.4 -- black screen with blinking cursor -- nomodeset trick failed -- am in a live session now -- hints and tips for the black screen? tnx
[19:37] <daftykins> jay__: type history
[19:38] <jay__> daftykins: "Unable to locate package libg11-mesa-dri"
[19:39] <tiblock> Hi. Is 14.04 released? Can i do do-dist-upgrade from 12.04?
[19:39] <daftykins> jay__: it's libg"L" as in lower case l then #1
[19:39] <loctauxphilippe> tiblock, Yeah!
[19:39] <tiblock> loctauxphilippe, okay, thank you
[19:40] <loctauxphilippe> tiblock, But it was released 3 moths ago!?!
[19:40] <tiblock> loctauxphilippe, no, i tryed today at morning and he wasnt released, somebody here sayed me it will be released today
[19:40] <stangeland> how do i increase the speed of my trackpoint? (lenovo x1 carbon gen2)
[19:40] <tiblock> loctauxphilippe, so you dont know is it released?
[19:41] <jay__> daftykins: I still boot into tty1
[19:41] <OerHeks> tiblock, when it is finished, schedule says today 24th, day is not over yet
[19:41] <DJones> loctauxphilippe: 12.04 to 14.04 upgrades don't happen automatically until 14.04.1 is released, thats expected later today or tomorrow
[19:41] <loctauxphilippe> tiblock, Oh you are talking about 14.04.1 or just 14.04 ?
[19:41] <loctauxphilippe> Oh!
[19:41] <tiblock> OerHeks, okay, thank you
[19:42] <tiblock> loctauxphilippe, im about do-dist-upgrade
[19:42] <loctauxphilippe> I don't know if .1 is here...
[19:42] <Pici> It isn't.
[19:42] <jay__> daftykins: f7 is supposed to be the normal desktop right? Cause that's stuck as well, and there's an error there that says "NO suitable module for running kernel found"
[19:42] <loctauxphilippe> tiblock, I didn't have anything about the .1 release.... ;-(
[19:43] <tiblock> loctauxphilippe, OerHeks says it will be today, so need wait more
[19:43] <loctauxphilippe> tiblock, Yep!
[19:43] <loctauxphilippe> tiblock, Everone is wating for that...
[19:44] <loctauxphilippe> tiblock, Maybe tomorow?
[19:45] <tiblock> loctauxphilippe, i dont have information, i dont know
[19:45] <jay__> this sucks :(
[19:45] <loctauxphilippe> tiblock, Allright...
[19:46] <daftykins> jay__: you've filled your system with too much junk from PPAs, i'm not entirely surprised. is that machine fully upgraded?
[19:46] <jay__> daftykins: Yeah, besides being on 12.04
[19:46] <hellyeah> hey
[19:47] <hellyeah> do you kknow what channel belngs to elementary os?
[19:47] <daftykins> jay__: that's fine, but just be sure with a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[19:47] <daftykins> !elementary
[19:47] <daftykins> hellyeah: ^
[19:47] <hellyeah> hey daftykins
[19:47] <jay__> daftykins: dist-upgrade does what?
[19:47] <hellyeah> thanks
[19:48] <daftykins> jay__: look it up if you want, sorry i'm working on something right now
[19:48] <Pici> !dist-upgrade | jay__
[19:48] <jay__> Thank you, brb I'll do that
[19:50] <OerHeks> !rootirc
[19:50] <jay__> daftykins: That didn't install or upgrade anything
[19:51] <root___> hi guys, forced to come here as root in recovery mode -- ubuntu 12.04.4, black screen with blinking cursor, nomodeset is no help, even with acpi=off -- hints & tips please? -- 14.04 is useless for my hardware
[19:52] <daftykins> jay__: alright, i think there are some issues with your install but sadly i don't have time to carry on now... you could ask again in here and say you've got trouble with X not starting, mention you have tonnes of PPAs
[19:52] <rksvy2> compdoc: I am still in major trouble
[19:52] <jay__> Anyone able to help with X not starting? Apparrently I also have tonnes of PPAs
[19:53] <rksvy2> compdoc: the RCU INFO messages stop .. but... the server is frozen
[19:53] <rksvy2> compdoc: the console is frozen and so is the ssh terminal
[19:54] <quorra> hello there
[19:58] <dacorr> Quick question, anyone having rendering/refresh issues using the xedgers graphics?
[19:59] <ik_> hi
[19:59] <ik_> how are you ?
[20:00] <root___> hi guys, forced to come here as root in recovery mode and cannot open links -- ubuntu 12.04.4, black screen with blinking cursor, nomodeset is no help, even with acpi=off -- hints & tips please? -- 14.04 is useless for my hardware
[20:01] <Fawaz> A warm greet to a warmer dear!
[20:01] <Fawaz> I have recieve a laptop which is concern the OPERATOR SYSTEM 'UBUNBUT"! But it cause me much distrees
[20:01] <ik_> salam aleikum
[20:02] <Fawaz> Aleikum us Salam wa Rahmatullah wa barakatuh
[20:02] <Fawaz> bismillahi rahmani rahim, qol-ho wallahu ahad
[20:02] <Fawaz> allahu samad
[20:02] <Fawaz> lam yalid wa lam yoolad wa lam yakun lahu kuffuwan ahad
[20:02] <ik_> shukran sadiqi
[20:02] <Fawaz> I have recieve a laptop which is concern the OPERATOR SYSTEM 'UBUNBUT"! But it cause me much distrees
[20:03] <trijntje> Fawaz: ok, sorry to hear that
[20:03] <trijntje> Fawaz: you don't have to use ubuntu if you don't want to, feel free to use something else
[20:03] <hellyeah> Fawaz: where are you from?
[20:03] <Fawaz> I am manager of a firm Fawaz Air Conditioning and Refridgerators
[20:03] <Dinosaurio> Is Ubuntu 15.04 going to be released or we're moving into a rolling release distro?
[20:03] <Fawaz> But the Ubuntu system has created a problem. Our refrigertor use a program which activate them for 6 hours in a day.
[20:04] <hellyeah> is this english?
[20:04] <Fawaz> But the Ubunut system does not support this.
[20:04] <Fawaz> This laptop is model 'ACER' and it is white exterior like a cream ice.
[20:04] <hellyeah> is this praying english?
[20:04] <Fawaz> I have never dealt 'UBUNTU' system in my life. But Windows I have familiarity and my brother say to me I am technician!
[20:05] <trijntje> Fawaz: ok, then you have to talk to the people who created the program, ask them if they have a version for ubuntu
[20:05] <Fawaz> I have call them, but they hang me
[20:05] <Fawaz> They say: "your camel is limp, there is no such thing."
[20:05] <Fawaz> I do not think this scam OPERATOR SYSTEM is valid
[20:05] <Fawaz> None of my program work in it
[20:05] <trijntje> Fawaz: we cannot help you, we don't even know what program you are using.
[20:06] <trijntje> Fawaz: please be polite, we are all volunteers here
[20:06] <trijntje> Fawaz: maybe you can take the laptop back to the person who sold it to you, ask for another laptop that has windows?
[20:07] <Fawaz> Perhaps I will try.
[20:07] <Fawaz> http://apps.microsoft.com/windows/en-us/app/clock-live-tile-alarm-timer/3b5bf892-cf9d-4f0a-b5a4-7bbbe958e309
[20:07] <Fawaz> This si application
[20:07] <Fawaz> I apologize brother, if I offensed you.
[20:07] <Fawaz> A Persian infidel sell me this computer.
[20:07] <trijntje> Fawaz: well, if you tell us we are scammers, its no suprise we are offended
[20:08] <Fawaz> And we all know, if an Iranian can find money in him mother's cunt and arse, he will certainly put his head in it.
[20:08] <Fawaz> trijntje: Well an Iranian fellow sell it to me
[20:08] <Fawaz> They are scammers 100%
[20:08] <trijntje> fair enough, I was just about to tell him that I wouldnt help him unless he kept his predudices in check
[20:09] <Dinosaurio> he's right
[20:12] <aguitel_> 14.04.1 is up ?
[20:13] <st34lth> I need my account password reset  how to find operator
[20:13] <trijntje> st34lth: what do you mean with operator?
[20:13] <allgoodAtTaoti> hi all, hopefully realitivly simple yes or no here but, is there a way to do a /etc/hosts.d type of thing where I can add a directory of files that will work like the /etc/hosts?
[20:13] <Pici> aguitel_: not yet.
[20:13] <IdleOne> st34lth: ask in #freenode for a password reset email
[20:14] <jay_> Anyone able to help me? X won't start and I get suck on "Checking battery state" when trying to boot
[20:14] <st34lth> Thanks Idleone
[20:15] <magesing> Hi everyone... I was trying to install nvidia drivers from a .run package I downloaded from nvidia... but the install didn't work, and now I have a seriously messed-up X session.  I put in my installation media and now I'm up and running off of a live-cd... how can I fix my graphics?
[20:17] <axp882> hey so i finally got a damn fileshare to work on ubuntu but when i access try to open the folder in os x i get this error: the operation cannot be completed because the original item cant be found
[20:17] <axp882> it may be worth mentioning that its on an attached HD
[20:18] <axp882> ie: /meshal/username/HDDname
[20:18] <Raazeer> axp, what kind of file share are we talking about?
[20:18] <axp882> ** ie: /media/user/HDD
[20:18] <axp882> Raazeer its the native smb in gnome
[20:18] <axp882> ie: rightclick then share
[20:19] <axp882> i edited the conf file and all is working if its a local file on the VM
[20:19] <Raazeer> axp882, you should be aware that there are several different versions of the protocol, which aren't entirely compatible.
[20:19] <Raazeer> have you tried accessing it from other oses/machines than your osx one?
[20:19] <rawrmonster> What happend to ia32-libs?
[20:20] <axp882> Raazeer not quite, it just works flawlessly for files on the main HD but anything in /media/HDDname doesnt work
[20:20] <s1991> pls anybody help me with wired network connection problem. It was working fine but stopped suddenly.
[20:20] <Luke_A> Hello people! I'm new to Ubuntu and Linux in general and have an issue with an Ubuntu guest running on a VM in windows 7. I can't get the internet working from within Ubuntu can anyone help me please I've been trying for days!
[20:20] <Raazeer> I see. So you want to share a mounted device over the network, right?
[20:20] <axp882> Raazeer Exactly
[20:21] <Raazeer> Luke_A, this might be more of a question for a virtualisation/windows channel.
[20:21] <Raazeer> axp882, how are you going about mounting the external device?
[20:21] <axp882> I mounted it with the Disk application
[20:21] <rksvy> Luke_A: Ensure your network in your VM is in bridged mode
[20:21] <jay_> Anyone? :(
[20:21] <axp882> its on /media/username/HDD
[20:22] <Raazeer> axp, you're doing all this from gnome, right? because gnome has its own mounting/sharing daemon that sometimes behaves strangely.
[20:22] <Luke_A> I need to use NAT mode as I can only have the one connection on a university network
[20:22] <axp882> Raazeer yes its from gnome, but mounthing the HD happened in ubuntu and it works perfectly within the VM
[20:23] <axp882> Raazeer im just not able to access folders remotely ONLY on the mounted drive
[20:23] <Raazeer> axp882, I'd suggest trying to do it from the command line with the traditional samba/mount commands and see if it behaves differently.
[20:24] <Raazeer> Luke_A, my professional oppinion is that this has nothing to do with the linux guest but is a problem on the windows host.
[20:24] <Busserl> Luke_A: what do you use?
[20:24] <Raazeer> Luke_A, the whole virtual network thingy should be completely transparent to the guest.
[20:24] <Busserl> Luke_A: I'd also guess that Ubuntu by default just tries DHCP, and if that doesn't work, it is probably not Ubuntu's fault.
[20:25] <Luke_A> ok thanks guys
[20:25] <Luke_A> hmm I don't know where to go
[20:25] <Busserl> Luke_A: Do you use virtualbox?
[20:25] <Raazeer> Luke_A, if you want NAT, seen from your linux guest it should look like there is a router on the virtual lan.
[20:25] <Luke_A> yes
[20:26] <Busserl> Luke_A: have you tried static ip, or just dhcp/nothing at all?
[20:26] <Luke_A> ive tried changing the ipv4 settings to match the host
[20:27] <Raazeer> Luke_A, that's wrong for sure.
[20:27] <Luke_A> and dhcp which is supposed to be automatic if I am right
[20:27] <Busserl> Luke_A: I don't use vbox anymore, so my memory of its NAT mode is not good. That probably wouldnt work.
[20:27] <Busserl> Luke_A: Do you use a wireless card, is it a laptop host?
[20:27] <Luke_A> ok well others told me to do it so I tried theres a lot of conflicting information out there for new users
[20:27] <bekks> vbox NAT and static IPs do work fine.
[20:28] <Luke_A> its a wired host on a university network
[20:28] <Luke_A> but the same issue happens on my wired network at home
[20:28] <Luke_A> from terminal I can ping external ips but not web addresses
[20:28] <Luke_A> so is it a dns issue?
[20:28] <Raazeer> Luke_A, I guess that's that.
[20:29] <Luke_A> is that normally something that's easy to fix?
[20:29] <Raazeer> Luke_A, btw, can't you just request another IP from your admins?
[20:29] <Raazeer> I presume you have a good reason for wanting that VM.
[20:30] <Raazeer> bridging is way easier than the whole NAT shmodder.
[20:30] <Luke_A> but I want to know why nat will not work
[20:30] <Luke_A> i thought nat was supposed to be the simplest way
[20:31] <Raazeer> Luke_A, the first thing you have to understand when you run virtual machines on windows is that sometimes "because it's friday and summer" is a perfectly good reason for something not to work.
[20:31] <Busserl> Luke_A: Looks like DNS information coming to the vm is wrong. Usually the DHCP server gives that info along with the ip to clients.
[20:31] <Busserl> Luke_A: but could be anything, yes
[20:31] <Luke_A> haha! ok
[20:32] <compdoc> but its only thursday
[20:32] <Raazeer> Luke_A, the whole network stack of windows is just not built to support the kind of flexibility you'd expect of linux
[20:32] <Luke_A> so if I set DNS information manually what should it be? the same as the host as displayed in ipconfig /all?
[20:32] <Raazeer> Luke_A, try 8.8.8.8
[20:33] <Raazeer> as dns
[20:33] <jay_> Can someone help me? X won't start and booting gets stuck on "checking battery state". I googled around and this seems to happen with people who've had their nvidia drivers screwed up but I have intel integrated graphics (though I had been using a dual monitor setup so maybe I installed something stupid in the process?)
[20:33] <Raazeer> jay_, without wasting time on google, did it say the _drivers_ were fouled up or the _config_?
[20:34] <jay_> Raazeer: I saw both being mentioned.
[20:34] <Raazeer> Luke_A, what network configuration scheme do you use?
[20:34] <Luke_A> raazeer can you explain how i do that just so i know that I'm doing it right?
[20:34] <Busserl> Luke_A: I think this could work as a test: Type into the terminal 'dig @8.8.8.8 www.youtube.com'
[20:35] <Raazeer> Busserl, good idea before fouling around with the config.
[20:35] <Raazeer> jay_, what does Xorg.log say?
[20:36] <Raazeer> any errors?
[20:36] <Busserl> Raazeer: Well I also forgot the command for telling resolvconf a different server. :)
[20:36] <Raazeer> Busserl, there's always man pages.
[20:36] <Luke_A> it does nothing same as when i try and ping web addresses
[20:37] <Raazeer> Luke_A, so you can ping 8.8.8.8, right?
[20:37] <Luke_A> yes razz, that works fine
[20:37] <Luke_A> ^raaz
[20:38] <Raazeer> so what kind of output does dig @8.8.8.8 youtube.com give you?
[20:38] <Raazeer> any errors?
[20:38] <Luke_A> connection timeout
[20:38] <Luke_A> no servers could be reached
[20:39] <jay_> Raazeer: There are 3 - 1) (EE) error, (NI) Not implemented, (??) unknown --- 2) /dri/i965_dri.so failed to open, no such file or directory --- 3) same_path/swrast_dri.so failed to open, no such file or directory. I should also mention that this all started with a hardware stack update. Things seemed to be pretty weird with my graphics (though I still had a desktop). I came on here asking for help and daftykins saw a similar error and told me to install libg1-dri-me
[20:40] <jay_> Raazeer: He also mentioned that I seemed to have a lot of PPAs
[20:40] <Raazeer> Luke_A, then can you get any content at all?
[20:40] <Raazeer> Luke_A, try wget http://74.125.232.68 (which is google)
[20:41] <Raazeer> it should download an index.html
[20:41] <Raazeer> jay_, that doesn't tell me anything specifically. have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling the drivers?
[20:42] <Luke_A> nope doesn't work
[20:42] <jay_> Raazeer: Apologies i misinterpreted the key as an error :), under the first error it says: AIGLX) reverting to software rendering, and under the second it says GLX: could not load software renderer
[20:42] <nonconvergent> Okay, got a fresh ubuntu 14.04 lts headless server up.  I go to set a static ip in /etc/network/interfaces, by setting "iface eth0 inet static", "address 192.168.33.181", "netmask 255.255.255.0", and "gateway 192.168.33.1"; after rebooting it's on the right ip but I can't see outside the network IE can't even ping.
[20:43] <Raazeer> Luke_A, then you can obviously get icmp packages through but nothing else. this is definitely a network problem host sid.
[20:43] <Raazeer> e
[20:43] <Luke_A> ok
[20:43] <mustmodify> where is the path traditionally set?
[20:43] <Raazeer> jay_, that looks like a clue right there.
[20:44] <Luke_A> thanks raaz et al. I shall try and find another channel
[20:44] <mustmodify> I've been struggling to figure out why a script isn't working from crontab and finally discovered that, when using crontab, /usr/local/bin isn't in the path.
[20:44] <Raazeer> Luke_A, good luck, getting vms to work on windows without spending a cartload of money is a task in its own.
[20:45] <rksvy> folks, can someone help with this error where I see RCU self detect stall that freezes my system and makes me reboot it
[20:45] <Raazeer> mustmodify, where the path is set depends largely on the context you are in.
[20:45] <Raazeer> you can always overwrite it on the command line.
[20:45] <mustmodify> Raazeer: I understand that.
[20:46] <mustmodify> Raazeer: But two entries are in the path from crontab and I don't see export PATH in ~/.bash*
[20:46] <mustmodify> or ~/.profile
[20:46] <Raazeer> rksvy, you win the most unspecific question of the day award.
[20:46] <mustmodify> so I'm trying to figure out where that's set
[20:46] <nonconvergent> Any love, ubuntu?
[20:47] <Raazeer> mustmodify, what exacly are you trying to do?
[20:48] <jay_> Raazeer: Any ideas?
[20:48] <rksvy> Raazeer: gee thanks :-) I need an award for sure!!
[20:49] <Raazeer> rksvy, in other words, I doubt you will find somebody who can help you unless you explain your problem in a leeetle more detail.
[20:49] <rksvy> Yep.. I understand but I wanted to get some attention ..negative is good wnough ;-)
[20:49] <mustmodify> Raazeer: find out where other things are added to the path and add something to that, rather than half-assing it by adding it wherever, then trying to remember how the hell I did that later.
[20:49] <Raazeer> jay_, not off the top of my head, unless "have you googled that specific error?" helps
[20:49] <rksvy> Te major symptom of my problem: console freezes ans so does the ssh terminal.
[20:49] <rksvy> I had a slew of such error :-
[20:50] <rksvy> INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks: { 7} (detected by 6, t=39932 jiffies, g=1759, c=1758, q=271)
[20:50] <rksvy> INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks: { 7} (detected by 6, t=46237 jiffies, g=1759, c=1758, q=274)
[20:50] <rksvy> While running a NW loopback test.
[20:50] <Raazeer> mustmodify, PATH=/some/where:$PATH somecommand is the traditional way
[20:50] <TataBigdaddey> good evening! (provided you're from Europe)
[20:50] <rksvy> I rdisabled ipv6 and that slew of errors went away
[20:50] <mustmodify> Raazeer: That's how, not where.
[20:50] <TataBigdaddey> Question: any ideas why I can't seem to find the xev in order to install it?
[20:51] <rksvy> BUT the frozen console issue is there.. the console still freezes and I get this error once :-
[20:51] <jay_> Raazeer: doesn't seem to produce anything useful
[20:51] <TataBigdaddey> the "key pressing" tracking program?
[20:51] <Raazeer> mustmodify, that's where too - wherever you run the command
[20:51] <rksvy> INFO: rcu_sched self-detected stall on CPUINFO: rcu_sched self-detected stall on CPU
[20:51] <TataBigdaddey> I want to bind keys to my mouse,  but need to identify them first
[20:51] <rksvy> That is all I have (this is while running a network loopback test)
[20:51] <mustmodify> Raazeer: Wow, Total disconnect.
[20:51] <mustmodify> jay_: Maybe it's a turing test?
[20:51] <TataBigdaddey> This guide: http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Mice-and-Pointing-Devices/Guide-for-setup-Performance-MX-mouse-on-Linux-with-KDE/td-p/517167
[20:51] <Raazeer> TataBigdaddey, try apt-file find
[20:52] <Raazeer> rksvy, sounds like a kernel problem, what does google have to say about it?
[20:52] <jay_> :(
[20:53] <rksvy> I only find hits that talk about ipv6 bugs and that disabling solves the problem
[20:53] <Raazeer> mustmodify, seriously, I'd do it ad hoc instead of fooling around with the system config.
[20:53] <mustmodify> Raazeer: Seriously. I think you're a turing test.
[20:54] <Raazeer> mustmodify, Wy do you say you think I'm a touring test?
[20:54] <hellyeah> hey
[20:54] <hellyeah> how can i add a username to the light dm
[20:54] <mustmodify> because of the total disconnect between what I was asking and your responses.
[20:54] <rksvy> but it didn't .. warnings went away BUT the freezing is still happening
[20:54] <Raazeer> mustmodify, how do you feel about the total disconnect between what I was asking and your responses?
[20:55] <Raazeer> mustmodify, sorry for kidding you but either I don't quite grasp your problem or you don't quite grasp my answers.
[20:55] <jay_> To be fair Raazeer is trying to help like 5 different people at once :)
[20:55] <Raazeer> you want to run a command via cron right?
[20:55] <thephreak> i asked earlier about the LTS 12.04 to 14.04, but I'm not a desktop user, i'm running server. I've seen a number of articles on doing this upgrade. Running "do-release-upgrade -d" fails finding the quantal.tar.gz.gpg. Is today's release really going to address my issue?
[20:56] <jay_> Raazeer: Oh also if I try startx is says /etc/bin/x not found
[20:56] <jay_> /usr/bin/X*
[20:56] <Raazeer> jay_, does it exist?
[20:56] <Raazeer> if it doesn't that might be a good pointer as to why X does not start
[20:57] <TataBigdaddey> dieties, what's the comand for "apt-find file"?
[20:57] <TataBigdaddey> if I want to find that xev program thingy?
[20:58] <jay_> Raazeer: I see X11 and I see Xorg but not 'X'. I should also probably mention that I did sugo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-*, and then when I tried to reinstall nvidia-current it didn't work....So I might also be missing a fair amount of stuff
[20:58] <Raazeer> TataBigdaddey, it's apt-file find. it can also do apt-file list.
[20:59] <Raazeer> jay_, I think my advice to TataBigdaddey might apply to you also. install apt-file first and find out which packages have /usr/bin/X.
[20:59] <Raazeer> then install the one that looks most promising to you , most likely xserver-xorg
[20:59] <TataBigdaddey> oh, apt-file is a program? :D
[20:59] <Raazeer> (but verify that first please!)
[20:59] <Raazeer> TataBigdaddey, indeed it is.
[20:59] <TataBigdaddey> ugh I thought it's a command... thank you!
[21:00] <Raazeer> TataBigdaddey, it is also a command. specifically it is a command to run the program named apt-file.
[21:00] <jay_> Raazeer: wait what params do I give it?
[21:00] <Raazeer> jay_, TataBigdaddey apt-file has two modes: find to find a package containing a specific file, and list to list the files contained in a package
[21:01] <Raazeer> so you either do apt-file find /usr/bin/X or apt-file list xserver-xorg
[21:01] <rksvy> anyone ? Any input on the RCU erro I've been griping about ?
[21:01] <Raazeer> it's one helluva useful tool.
[21:01] <Raazeer> rksvy, sorry, I could only google that for you.
[21:02] <jay_> Raazeer: I don't understand how the results help?
[21:02] <TataBigdaddey> now, since I need to find that - pardon me french - sorryass XEV program... how do I find it so I can also install it?
[21:03] <Raazeer> TataBigdaddey, you know the basics about packages and such, don't you?
[21:03] <Raazeer> so the question you should be asking yourself is what - pardon me french - sorryass package contains that sorryass xev executable
[21:03] <TataBigdaddey> define "basics", since I like to believe that I do, however... I probably only understand the idea behind them, and have yet to catch the procedure(s)
[21:03] <rksvy> ok thanks
[21:04] <Raazeer> and since asking _yourself_ that question is not going to yield any answers if it hasn't so far, I'd suggest asking apt-file.
[21:04] <TataBigdaddey> thank you
[21:04] <Raazeer> TataBigdaddey, to get you started on your way, try apt-file find bin/xev
[21:05] <jay_> Raazeer: So I just install any of these that contain /usr/bin/X?
[21:05] <Raazeer> jay_, I suggest using your god-given gift of occams razor to select the most likely candidate.
[21:06] <jay_> Raazeer: Can you remind me again is 12.04 saucy or raring?
[21:06] <Ben64> precise
[21:06]  * TataBigdaddey facepalms himself
[21:06] <Raazeer> jay_, iirc it is R.
[21:06] <wolfspy> google it?
[21:06] <TataBigdaddey> sweet lord jesus (or anyone) Raazeer you have permission to kick my ass
[21:07] <Ben64> TataBigdaddey: keep the language clean please
[21:07] <jay_> Raazeer: Time to restart, hopefully I won't be back :P
[21:07] <Raazeer> TataBigdaddey, I disapprove of cruelty to animals, what's up?
[21:07] <TataBigdaddey> pardon me, everyone
[21:08] <Payam2> Hi anybody interested in helping me setup Drobpox on Ubuntu? I'm going crazy as every file Dropbox downloads from the cloud becomes Read Only. You can Teamviewer in  and  I will reimburse you for your time.
[21:08] <Raazeer> TataBigdaddey, ok, what trigged this unseemly outbreak of self-hate?
[21:09] <Raazeer> or should it be self-loathing? not sure...
[21:09] <daftykins> Raazeer: keep it on topic please.
[21:09] <jay_> Raazeer: Woo! Okay I have a desktop now. My trackpad doesn't work at all though :D
[21:09] <Raazeer> daftykins, now what?
[21:09] <Raazeer> jay_, that might have something to do with evdev being screwed up too.
[21:09] <TataBigdaddey> I'm new enough not to recognise that "$ xev" is where you should simply enter "$ xev" in order to run thie program
[21:10] <jay_> Raazeer: evdev?
[21:10] <TataBigdaddey> new enough meaning - basically my second 'real' use of Linux, day 1
[21:10] <Raazeer> TataBigdaddey, actually the dollar sign represents your prompt, whatever it looks like.
[21:10] <Raazeer> so what you are supposed to enter is just plain 'xev'
[21:10] <TataBigdaddey> yes, the $ symbol is there by default, so.. like you said
[21:11] <Raazeer> the convention is that a dollar sign is the unprivileged prompt, the hash sign is the root prompt.
[21:11] <BSDLOVER`> please join #bsdgeekclub
[21:11] <BSDLOVER`> i need more users in #bsdgeekclub
[21:12] <jeffreylevesque> is ubuntu considered debian?
[21:12] <Raazeer> so if you ever see a line like '# rm -rf /' in a book anywhere, you are supposed to execute 'rm -rf /' as root (don't do that, it is essentially format c: in bash)
[21:12] <Ben64> jeffreylevesque: based on debian, not debian
[21:12] <Raazeer> jeffreylevesque, flame war starting in 3...2...1...
[21:13] <jay_> Raazeer: So Xorg is still unhappy about something. The log is filled a bunch of this:  (EE) FBDEV(0): FBIOPUTCMAP: Invalid argument
[21:13] <jeffreylevesque> i got the ice baby
[21:13] <jeffreylevesque> they call me iceman
[21:13] <Raazeer> jay_, FBDEV is basicly the fallback in case nothing else works graphic driver.
[21:13] <TataBigdaddey> welp, for now, thank you everyone, I think my eyes are telling me to get to sleep already
[21:13] <Raazeer> so I guess you'll have to reinstall pretty much your whole X environment yet.
[21:14] <jay_> Raazeer: How do I go about doing that?
[21:15] <Raazeer> jay_, how do you feel about rm -rf / and start over? just kidding...
[21:15] <jay_> lol
[21:15] <Ben64> jay_: what did you do to break it
[21:15] <Ben64> Raazeer: don't post that command here even as a joke
[21:15] <jay_> I think it all started with me updating my hardware stack
[21:15] <Raazeer> Ben he uninstalled a few packages and likely cascaded a bit much.
[21:16] <Raazeer> Ben64, now that I think about it, this might indeed not be the right audience for that joke...
[21:16] <Ben64> jay_: what version of ubuntu?
[21:16] <jay_> Ben64: 12.04
[21:16] <OerHeks> jay_, and tell Ben64 , you have a bunch of PPA's :-D
[21:17] <jay_> Lol supposedly, yes
[21:17] <Ben64> jay_: pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[21:17] <TataBigdaddey> most certainly "see" y'all tomorrow o/
[21:18] <Raazeer> ok, since jay_ seems to be in good hands with Ben64, I'll retire.
[21:18] <Raazeer> it's been a blast helping y'all.
[21:18] <Ben64> i have to leave in like 15
[21:18] <Raazeer> Ben64, 15 can be a lifetime if you know the right commands ;)
[21:18] <Raazeer> ok, take care everyone.
[21:18] <Raazeer> see you soon.
[21:19] <jay_> Ben64:http://pastebin.com/zqxCypts
[21:19] <jay_> Raazeer: Thanks man, later!
[21:19] <squeese> Hey folks, looking for some tips, Im relatively new to using linux (xubuntu) as my main workstation, and therefore I try all sorts of stuff to learn.. but Ive had to reinstall sooner or later alot lately, soo.. need tips on how to set up some sort of backup? Is there something like norton ghost?
[21:20] <Ben64> jay_: wow that is a lot of ppas
[21:20] <jay_> Hahaha
[21:20] <jay_> I've been told
[21:20] <jay_> I really didn't think I added a lot
[21:21] <Ben64> you might want to consider a fresh 14.04 install
[21:21] <jay_> Ben64: I really can't do that :S
[21:22] <Ben64> why?
[21:22] <jay_> Ben64: My dev environment
[21:22] <jay_> Ben64: Is there any way to just get rid of the PPA's and pull from the main repos instead?
[21:23] <OerHeks> ppa-purge, as you have been told
[21:23] <Ben64> you can purge all the ppas, but it could mess up other things you have going
[21:23] <jay_> OerHeks: I don't recall being told that
[21:24] <jay_> Ben64: Besides a fresh install what are you suggestions?
[21:24] <Ben64> that would be the best
[21:24] <OerHeks> !ppapurge
[21:25] <master> may I have a stupid question? how can I stop writing and send the mail... when I using mail in console.
[21:25] <jay_> Ben64: Are you suggesting ppa-purge?
[21:25] <Bashing-om> squeese: My take on backups ( Broke my system many times too learning); system files require no backup as they are on the install media, so all that is "backed up" are personal files (backup your /home directory) and keep a 'change log' of all changes you make from the default install.
[21:27] <jay_> OerHeks: If I just run ppa-purge on it's own will it purge all PPAs?
[21:28] <jay_> OerHecks, Ben64: Cause I don't know what individual PPAs I have :S
[21:28] <jay_> OerHeks*
[21:34] <jay_> :S
[21:35] <OerHeks> cd /etc/apt/sources.list.d ; ls
[21:36] <jay_> OerHeks: And I should purge all of those?
[21:36] <OerHeks> w would do one by one, to see what happens
[21:36] <OerHeks> w=i
[21:37] <jay_> OerHeks: sudo ppa-pruge ppa:<name_i_see_in_this_dir> ?
[21:37] <jay_> purge*
[21:37] <dannixon> td12590-ub
[21:37] <OerHeks> correct, see ubottu's message
[21:38]  * StevenR wonders when 14.04.1 will be released. Schedule says today... do-release-upgrade says nothing new?
[21:38] <jeffreylevesque> is there a way i can distribute my processing / processes to other machines?
[21:38] <ikonia> StevenR: what version of ubuntu are you running
[21:38] <StevenR> ikonia: 12.something LTS
[21:38] <ikonia> jeffreylevesque: if the apps are cluster/distrubted workload aware
[21:38] <ikonia> StevenR: then it should be some point when it hits your mirrors today
[21:39] <thephreak> 12.04 LTS Server... waiting for 14.04.1 so I can update.
[21:39] <jeffreylevesque> ikonia, could you help me understand this concept more
[21:39] <ikonia> jeffreylevesque: in what way
[21:39] <jay_> OerHeks: http://pastebin.com/70dKyS4R
[21:40] <jeffreylevesque> ikonia: have one app, maybe 10 people will go on it.  Each person will cause several bash scripts to run, each bash script may execute one or more commands triggering other programs.  I'd like to distribute it -- maybe, if the number of processes hits a certain limit, distribute the other processes to determined machines
[21:41] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, hello
[21:41] <ikonia> jeffreylevesque: not realistic
[21:42] <jay_> OerHeks: Did I enter the wrong thing?
[21:43] <dickfeynman> Hi, I'd like to know whether the first point release of Trusty (14.04.1) is out.
[21:43] <OerHeks> jay_, i don't know your ppa list, but that .list at the end i find nowhere in de example.
[21:44] <ikonia> dickfeynman: some point today
[21:44] <StevenR> ikonia: thanks
[21:44] <jay_> OerHeks: Everything in this directory has either .list or .list.save at the end
[21:44] <dickfeynman> ikonia: Cool. I'm waiting to upgrade from 12.04 :)
[21:44] <OerHeks> jay_, so what were the names you added? sure you must remember something
[21:44] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: I am here, hoz it going ? where are we ?
[21:46] <OerHeks> jay_,  take a look at https://launchpad.net/~ehoover/+archive/ubuntu/compholio/
[21:46] <Nonl> I burned a Windows 7 64bit iso to my 8 gb usb so I can install windows on my Ubuntu machine. Upon installing, I get this error: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2755139 Anyone know where to get those media drivers? I'm currently using a ubuntu 12.04 machine
[21:47] <Nonl> and my cd/dvd drive may or may not work. I'm not sure
[21:47] <jay_> OerHeks: I don't remember
[21:48] <jay_> OerHeks: To confirm, I should be in sources.d right?
[21:48] <jay_> OerHeks: sources.list.d*
[21:48] <_1_jakery> hey
[21:48] <_1_jakery> is anyone okay?
[21:49] <OerHeks> jay_, yes, that is where you found that ehoover ppa
[21:49] <jay_> OerHeks: Can I just delete the .list file?
[21:49] <_1_jakery> what's all this that's happening Jay_
[21:51] <jay_> _1_jakery: It all started with a hardware stack update. Then my video drivers weren't working so I came here and as told to install lbgl1-dir-mesa or something. Then when I rebooted X wouldn't start so I removed that package but X still wouldn't start. I had to reinstall xorg-xserver cause /usr/bin/X was gone. Now I'm back in my desktop but my trackpad doesn't work anbd the graphics are still screwy
[21:52] <_1_jakery> why do we have to download all of these things?
[21:52] <jay_> _1_jakery: what do you mean?
[21:52] <k1l_> dont mind him, that was a spam bot
[21:54] <Nonl> anyone have idea for my issue?
[21:55]  * OerHeks is reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#A12.04.4_.2B-_13.10_Hardware_Enablement_Stack_Policies_and_Procedures
[21:55] <ronin2> what should I configure to be able to use command "mail"
[21:56] <jay_> OerHeks: Thanks :)
[21:57] <_zoggy_> you need to install it
[21:57] <Nonl> _zoggy_, do you have ideas for my issue?
[21:57] <_zoggy_> oh nm wrong channel
[21:58] <OerHeks> jay_, sounds like a transition issue 12.04.4 to 12.04.5, i am not sure how to say this correct.
[21:58] <jay_> OerHeks: How do I know if I'm on 12.04.4 or .5?
[21:59] <OerHeks> cat /etc/issue
[21:59] <drKenda> help me to install Docu Wiki
[21:59] <drKenda> please
[21:59] <jay_> OerHeks: I'm on .4
[22:03] <_Rocky_> Hi
[22:03] <_Rocky_> I see through netstat that there is a tcp connection established to a random server at port 9001 all the time. Even after several reboot.
[22:04] <_Rocky_> I am not using any network application and this is still the case. Any idea what this is?
[22:04] <_Rocky_> I am using ubuntu 14.04.
[22:05] <Agent__> @Rocky The NSA. :O
[22:06] <_Rocky_> Agent__, The fact that your nick is Agent__ does not reassure me ;)
[22:06] <Agent__> Oh, I know things! ;)
[22:07] <Agent__> http://www.speedguide.net/port.php?port=9001
[22:07] <_Rocky_> But seriously. does anyone have this?
[22:07] <Agent__> Could it be Tor?
[22:07] <_Rocky_> Agent__, I think I had it before installing tor
[22:08] <Agent__> Hmmm
[22:08] <Agent__> Perhaps you could try Wireshark-ing it
[22:08] <Agent__> I.e. using a packet sniffer
[22:08] <jcstarken> any one having hide the launcher bar issues in 14.04
[22:08] <Agent__> Finding out if it's encrypted
[22:09] <Agent__> Oh even better
[22:09] <_Rocky_> Agent__, Thats the first thing I tried to do. Wireshark keeps segfaulting :(
[22:10] <Agent__> If it uses a particular port, then the TCP/IP stack will have allocated the port for a specific application, no? (finally Computer Science comes in handy :O )...
[22:11] <Agent__> So, I guess one could find a logfile for the program that handles port encapsulation on packets, and find entries for 9001. Find the application that it's assigned to from there maybe?
[22:12] <Agent__> Transport layer log files?
[22:13] <hill-> i need solve problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/7849976/
[22:13] <Agent__> I could be completely wrong and spewing out nonsense right now
[22:13] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: Hey, where are you ? And, what remains to be done ?
[22:14] <OssumPawesome> hey so I disabled remote desktop access on my ubuntu web server, but I can still access it through remote desktop.....?
[22:15] <calzifer> still no 14.04.1 release?
[22:19] <bitplane> Hi, tracker-miner-f is being really CPU hungry and my tracker/meta.db is enormous, a couple of gig
[22:19] <bitplane> what's its beef?
 no 12
[22:24] <bitplane> wiped teh cache with `tracker-control -r`
[22:25] <novae_> hi
[22:25] <BrandonC> Bashing-om said, "OK... I am tired for sure, the next thing is to install, "something else" option .. I would just as soon await a better time to continue, What we have set up,  the installer will change somewhat on the sizes, and a re-confirmation will be required to direct the installer as to what we want . Just as soon tackel this phase in the morrow.
[22:25] <BrandonC> "
[22:25] <novae_> does anyone know ho to set default quirk save acpi to pm-suspend ?
[22:26] <novae_> I'm trying to set this on lid close
[22:29] <calzifer> hill-: what do you mean with "no 12"?
[22:29] <BrandonC> Bashing-om, actualy gimme about an hour ill be back
[22:30] <hill-> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 12.10"
[22:30] <hill-> calzifer,
[22:33] <Bashing-om> BrandonC: K, we will go once more .
[22:34] <TJ-> Bashing-om: What is the actual problem BrandonC is trying to solve? It seems to have been going on for days!
[22:36] <_Rocky_> Agent__, Sorry buddy, I was trying to use wireshark and it not only crashed on me, it disconnected me.
[22:36] <Agent__> No problem :)
[22:36] <Agent__> You could always try wiresharking on another PC
[22:37] <_Rocky_> Agent__, You are right. I am gonna dig deeper to find the process thats using this port using log files etc.
[22:37] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Just try'n to get ubuntu to boot. // We had "partitions outside of boundry" but the numbers said all were good// Do not recall who/why  wipe partitions and start all over came up.
[22:37] <TJ-> Bashing-om: "partitions outside of boundry" is from boot-repair report, yes?
[22:38] <_Rocky_> Agent__, I think there is an open bug in libpcap thats causing the issue...according to some google searches
[22:38] <Bashing-om> TJ-: correct. boot-repair report.
[22:38] <TJ-> Bashing-om: That's just bad report formating in the report when it does "fdisk -l" ... it is actually about the CD/DVD drive! If you look back up the report, in the "parted -l" section, you'll see it again, but there it shows the device (usually /dev/sr0)
[22:39] <_Rocky_> brb. going offline for a while
[22:39] <Agent__> You take care @Rocky
[22:39] <Agent__> * _@Rocky
[22:39] <TJ-> Bashing-om: I was almost caught out by that recently, but the sector numbers checked out for the hard disk so I dug deeper into the script
[22:39] <Agent__> Well D:
[22:39] <Agent__> Glad I could help:)
[22:40] <_Rocky_> Agent__, will come back and let you know about the culprit. Thank you for your insights. BTW, considering ur knowledge level, u could be NSA ;)
[22:42] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Nice to be aware // Think it was you who did the numbers on the partitions and said there was no problem, and I did check, compared the numbers and agreed, the partitions must be aligned . Like I say, no idea where the repartition and start over came from.
[22:43] <pidybi> i love my Ubuntu :D
[22:43] <hill-> i need solve problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/7849976/  DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 12.10"
[22:46] <Pencil2> can I go from 12.04 to 14 ?
[22:46] <Pencil2> directly?
[22:47] <Bashing-om> !EOL | hill-
[22:50] <hill-> Bashing-om,  W: Failed to fetch http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/CODENAME-security/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[22:51] <Pencil2> So can I go directly from 12.04 to 14.04 or do I have to upgrade 13.04, 13.10 then 14.04 ??
[22:51] <bekks> Pencil2: you have to wait for 14.04.1 to update from 12.04 to 14.04.1 directly.
[22:51] <TJ-> hill-: Where did you get "CODENAME" from? That should be replaced by the *RELEASE* codename, as in "quantal" for 12.10
[22:52] <Bashing-om> hill-: It is a trial to release upgrade from an End_Of_Life release .. Though it can be done, the 'better' course I often see recommended is to backup your data and do a clean install. See the provided link for the means to -online upgrade.
[22:52] <hill-> ok
[22:53] <koell> where is mark shuttleworth?
[22:55] <visceral> koell: he is everywhere. And nowhere.
[22:55] <koell> mark, get your ass in here, we have enough problems :D
[22:55] <Bashing-om> hill-: In the event of problems, we are here to assist. It is your choice how to proceed, there is no direct way to upgrade to current. From 12.10 it is a long hard tough road with many pitfalls, a lot of time and effort, not to mention a lot of bandwidth 12.10 -> 13.04 ->13.10 -> (14.04)// ALL are EOL and will be a pain !
[22:56] <koell> jono bacon is the jonny ive of canonical! \o/
[22:57]  * visceral regrets talking to koell 
[22:58] <koell> ok guys, who can i help you? ask and be friendly! :3
[22:58] <jelly-home> well, { k, o, e, l, l } is like 60% of { t, r, o, l, l }
[22:58] <visceral> jelly-home: point
[22:59] <visceral> "who can i help you" <- what
[22:59] <koell> xD
[22:59] <visceral> koell: you fail at English
[22:59] <koell> thank you very much, english is a quatsch xD
[23:01] <k1l_> koell: go home, you are drunk.
[23:13] <zaltekk> hey. i just updated the kernel on my 12.04 laptop to 3.13(trusty) because of support ending for the older kernel on august 7th. my intel audio (Intel 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset) has stopped working. i don't see any devices listed with aplay -l
[23:13] <zaltekk> no errors in dmesg
[23:14] <zaltekk> i tried the oem dkms package for the latest alsa audio code, and nothing changed
[23:14] <zaltekk> any ideas what else to try?
[23:14] <zaltekk> if i go back to the quantal kernel i get audio back
[23:15] <Bashing-om> zaltekk: Did you -> apt-get install linux-generic-lts-trusty libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-trusty xserver-xorg-lts-trusty linux-image-generic-lts-trusty <- ??
[23:15] <zaltekk> Bashing-om: yes
[23:15] <TJ-> zaltekk: Does the system have only one audio device? sometimes an HDMI audio device gets listed first and becomes the default device
[23:16] <zaltekk> TJ-: it shows no devices with this kernel
[23:16] <TJ-> zaltekk: That's not good :(
[23:16] <ikonia> I don't understand why people are changing kernel versions for no reason
[23:16] <ikonia> creating problems
[23:16] <zaltekk> ikonia: end of support.
[23:16] <ikonia> zaltekk: where ?
[23:16] <ikonia> zaltekk: what version of ubuntu ?
[23:16] <TJ-> zaltekk: Can you pastebin the dmesg?
[23:17] <k1l_> ikonia: the 12.04.2 comes with a kernel that support ended
[23:17] <zaltekk> ikonia: the 12.04 LTS kernel isn't supported after august 7th according the the motd update
[23:17] <ikonia> k1l_: support hasn't ended
[23:17] <TJ-> ikonia: The HWE for Precise, now 14.04.1 is out, the HWE has to be upgraded to continue support
[23:17] <ikonia> k1l_: it's supported within the ubuntu release
[23:17] <ikonia> that's the most stupid thing I've heard
[23:17] <k1l_> ikonia: it uses the 13.10 kernel backport. (due to the samsung gets killed by kernel desaster)
[23:17] <ikonia> then it should be a kernel upgrade
[23:17] <ikonia> not an optional package
[23:18] <ikonia> you "have to use" this optional package to maintain support is just nonsense
[23:18] <zaltekk> the upgrade is to 3.13
[23:18] <ikonia> the whole point of LTS is supposed to be a stable stack for the 5 years
[23:18] <ikonia> changing kernel is not a stable stack
[23:18] <k1l_> zaltekk: yes, that is the 14.04 LTS kernel backport. that is long supported
[23:18] <zaltekk> ikonia: yeah, well, i was caught offguard too
[23:18] <zaltekk> http://codepad.org/c8mtd7FF here is proof i upgraded correctly
[23:19] <zaltekk> http://codepad.org/yvwyDE8s here is dmesg
[23:19] <k1l_> ikonia: it is for the 12.04.0 kernel and the 14.04.0 kernel. but if you install the point release you get the backport kernel on default
[23:19] <ikonia> k1l_: unacceptble
[23:20] <ikonia> k1l_: that is not a stable stack
[23:20] <ikonia> that is changes to the core platform,
[23:20] <k1l_> ikonia: that was due to the kernels killing samsung devices. which is more unaccaptable
[23:20] <zaltekk> and from lspci:  00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
[23:20] <ikonia> k1l_: then patch/fix it
[23:20] <zaltekk> according to the ubuntu website it's "certified" for ubuntu
[23:21] <k1l_> ikonia: it was with the backports kernel
[23:21] <ikonia> k1l_: yeah, backported kernel != stable platform
[23:22] <zaltekk> agreed. the individual patch should be ported to the previously-supported kernel
[23:22] <carbid> hello
[23:22] <zaltekk> all the same, i just want my audio working again
[23:23] <k1l_> zaltekk: you are free to install the original 12.04 kernel
[23:23] <zaltekk> k1l_: the 12.04.0 kernel? 3.2?
[23:24] <zaltekk> then the laptop deadlocks 2-3 times a day
[23:24] <zaltekk> hence why i had upgraded to the newer 12.04 kernels
[23:24] <boriseto> Can I backup ssh keys from this OS and use them when I reinstall it? Or are they the same?
[23:24] <k1l_> well, then i dont see a point in ranting about kernel upgrades if you did it before anyway
[23:24] <zaltekk> k1l_: i wasn't ranting
[23:25] <Loshki> zaltekk: in your dmesg, what are all those *BAD*gran_size messages? Never seen them before...
[23:25] <zaltekk> i just said it broke my audio
[23:25] <zaltekk> Loshki: i...don't know.
[23:26] <Loshki> zaltekk: Hmm. Care to run a memtest overnight tonight?
[23:26] <zaltekk> Loshki: yeah, looks like i should
[23:26] <zaltekk> that's not the same issues unfortunately, though
[23:27] <Loshki> zaltekk: understood. If I knew the answer...
[23:28] <Loshki> zaltekk: but deadlocks are a possible sign of bad ram, or power problems, or overheating, or phases of the moon...
[23:28] <zaltekk> Loshki: oh, it hasn't done it in like a year
[23:28] <zaltekk> that was just when i was running 3.2 kernel
[23:28] <zaltekk> and other people with the same model laptop had the same problem
[23:29] <blur702> When adding a virtual host to apache, where do I add the directives? I'm just used to adding the < virtualhost> info in the apache.conf..
[23:29] <zaltekk> but if i install quantal(3.5) or saucy(3.11) kernels i get messages saying support is ending
[23:29] <Loshki> zaltekk: I see you've done your homework. That's good...
[23:30] <ObrienDave> refreshing, to say the least :)
[23:32] <Bashing-om> ObrienDave: Did you get lost_x back on track, last night ?
[23:32] <Loshki> Bashing-om: and what happened with BrandonC? It seems to be taking days...
[23:33] <ObrienDave> Bashing-om, not quite, it took me a while to remember all of the partitioning rules for MFT vs. GPT
[23:33] <TJ-> Loshki: The "*BAD* prefixes to the MTRR scans are simply reporting MTRR combinations that aren't applicable. It scans to ensure the firmware hasn't given the kernel a bad MTRR configuration.
[23:33] <kuntwon1> hey i wonder if u could join #bsdgeekclub
[23:34] <Loshki> TJ-: so they're not a sign of any kind of RAM failure?
[23:34] <ObrienDave> channel spammers, sheesh ;P
[23:35] <TJ-> Loshki: No, it is simply figuring out which MTRR combinations are valid
[23:35] <zaltekk> well that's good to hear
[23:35] <Bashing-om> Loshki: BrandonC // Well, long story short, I got involved with it last eve, someone I guess ( or maybe he took it on his own) to (RE-)install, I got reinvolved with using GParted to set up manual partitions for the install. Now, we are awaiting BrandonC to do the install, as partitioning is done.
[23:35] <zaltekk> regardless, i'm at a bit of a loss on the forced kernel upgrade. i don't see anything online about it
[23:35] <zaltekk> just the updated motd downloaded
[23:35] <zaltekk> saying that migration is being forced
[23:36] <ObrienDave> coffee, brb
[23:36] <TJ-> zaltekk: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2014-July/000186.html
[23:36] <zaltekk> TJ-: thanks, couldn't find it on the website itself
[23:37] <Loshki> Bashing-om: well that's good progress actually. When we started, he wasn't even sure if the hardware was ok/
[23:37] <TJ-> zaltekk: I saw it on the lists when it was published :)
[23:37] <zaltekk> TJ-: i don't follow things that closely. i only use ubuntu at work where i don't have any choice in the matter
[23:37] <zaltekk> and i'm not a sysadmin
[23:38] <Bashing-om> Loshki: We still not 100% sure .. I had suggested a mem test overnight .. not heard if that test was done.
[23:38] <zaltekk> so that confirms downgrading back to 3.2 will be supported
[23:38] <zaltekk> which is good
[23:38] <TJ-> zaltekk: The reason it came so late was Leann realised only in May, I think it was, that 12.04+HWE would be left in limb since there was no plan to go beyond 12.04.4
[23:38] <TJ-> s/limb/limbo/
[23:39] <Herr_Kriss> hello, I messed up my network config. I've rud ifup wlan0 and it sends messages like "DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7". The problem is... it's like in a loop, I don't know how to stop it from trying.
[23:39] <Herr_Kriss> I've tried ctrl+c and nothing
[23:40] <Loshki> TJ-: thanks for the education!
[23:40] <Herr_Kriss> woa, after 5 miuntes it ended
[23:40] <zaltekk> strange that they link to a bug about the virtualbox dkms module not building
[23:40] <zaltekk> works fine for me with 3.13. i just had to update-alternatives for gcc to 4.6
[23:40] <zaltekk> which was also required for the 3.10 and 3.11 kernels too
[23:42] <Loshki> Herr_Kriss: dhcclient is doing what it's supposed to: it's broadcasting DHCP discover packets trying to find a DHCP server, usually your router. It doesn't seem to be getting a reply, which is why it hangs, waiting...
[23:42] <TJ-> zaltekk: I'm wondering if some previous kernel-module options customisation in-place for the previous kernels is causing the current kernel to mis-map the audio hardware? Have you checked in "/etc/modprobe.d/" for any entries affecting HDA codec configuration?
[23:43] <zaltekk> TJ-: i don't recall ever setting anything up like that, but let me double check
[23:43] <TJ-> Loshki: If Herr_Kriss did use "ifup wlan0" and dhclient is sending on eth0, methinks that "/etc/network/interfaces" might be mis-configured
[23:43] <zaltekk> hmm. lots of stuff in alsa-base.conf
[23:43] <zaltekk> looks upstream though
[23:43] <TJ-> zaltekk: Just trying to think of why the kernel would totally lose sight of device 0:1b when that laptop is fully Ubuntu certified
[23:44] <zaltekk> TJ-: i'm sure it's related to running a much newer kernel
[23:44] <Loshki> Herr_Kriss: TJ-: Oops. I missed that. TJ- is right. Herr_Kriss, what did you *change*...
[23:45] <zaltekk> i don't see anything thought appears to be conflicting
[23:45] <TJ-> zaltekk: can you pastebin "sudo lspci -nnvvvk" ?
[23:46] <zaltekk> TJ-: http://codepad.org/OspmFweN
[23:47] <jon-work> has 14.04.1 LTS been released?
[23:47] <TJ-> zaltekk: So the driver is loaded... which kernel version is that with "uname -r" ?
[23:47] <zaltekk> 3.13.0-32-generic
[23:48] <Loshki> I've asked this before & never got an answer. Can someone point me to a doc explaining the relationship between alsa, pavu, pulseaudio, from /dev to speaker...?
[23:49] <TJ-> zaltekk: also, did you capture the dmesg output directly, because it looks truncated. If you did, can you pastebin "/var/log/dmesg" so we have the complete output?
[23:49] <zaltekk> TJ-: i ran dmesg > asdf
[23:49] <TJ-> zaltekk: It looks truncated at line 960
[23:50] <zaltekk> TJ-: i'll paste again
[23:50] <zaltekk> http://codepad.org/EAB50rXg
[23:50] <TJ-> zaltekk: same, looks truncated
[23:50] <zaltekk> that's the file on disk
[23:51] <zaltekk> oh wait
[23:51] <zaltekk> codepad is truncating it
[23:51] <TJ-> zaltekk: can you compare end of that output with "tail /var/log/dmesg" ?
[23:51] <TJ-> zaltekk: aha!
[23:51] <zaltekk> let me try pasting it somewhere else
[23:51] <TJ-> zaltekk: Try paste.ubuntu.com
[23:51] <paulo_> I have 3.13.0-24-generic kernel. Is there a way I can download the same version with debugging symbols? it's faster than recompiling
[23:51] <zaltekk> [   27.383346] init: resolvconffix main process ended, respawning
[23:51] <zaltekk> is the last line
[23:51] <zaltekk> looks like that got the whole file
[23:52] <TJ-> zaltekk: OK, 27 seconds in versus the codepad 3 seconds :)
[23:52] <zaltekk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7850528/
[23:53] <TJ-> paulo_: Yes, add the 'ddeb' (debug) package repositories to apt's configuration
[23:54] <TJ-> paulo_: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash#Debug_Symbol_Packages
[23:54] <TJ-> zaltekk: "21.200675] snd_hda_codec: module verification failed: signature and/or  required key missing - tainting kernel"
[23:55] <zaltekk> TJ-: that was the custom latest one
[23:55] <zaltekk> so i guess this dmesg isn't the stock module
[23:55] <TJ-> zaltekk: That shoudn't cause the issue, but it suggests the kernel module might be built from some external source, possibly DKMS package?
[23:55] <zaltekk> yeah, that's the oem alsa snapshot dkms package
[23:55] <TJ-> zaltekk: OK, that would make sense then
[23:55] <zaltekk> i figured it was worth a shot
[23:57] <TJ-> zaltekk: "/var/log/dmesg"  is freshly written after each successful boot, by dumping dmesg, so this should be the current kernel boot
[23:59] <zaltekk> TJ-: right. i am still booted with the dkms one loaded
[23:59] <Nimble> any ssh experts here?
[23:59] <Nimble> is there a way I can set a user's shell to something that will keep the ssh connection going but not actually give them a shell?