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Unit193!info xubuntu-core utopic03:20
Unit193forestpiskie: We want to figure that out about now?03:20
ubottuxubuntu-core (source: xubuntu-meta): Xubuntu core system. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.181 (utopic), package size 3 kB, installed size 44 kB03:20
skellatCould somebody set LP Bug 1347705 to Triaged/Low for me?04:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1347705 in shimmer-themes (Ubuntu) "Split theme packages do not properly declare conflicts" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134770504:19
skellatPretty please?04:19
* skellat heads off to bed04:19
Unit193bluesabre: ^.  And, stuff correctly added to the packageset?  Do you think xfdash and thunar-dropbox could be added as well since they are Xfce/Xubuntu geared and we're set to maintain them?  I'd ask about skippy, but that seems less geared towards Xfce, but may be worth a shot as well.  What do you think? :)04:24
Unit193Hmm.  The idea to ship a default config file for compton, but not compton itself was put forth, whatever happened to that idea?05:10
elfybluesabre: so I got spammed by apport and system crashes for these themes this morning too :p06:15
Unit193:D06:15
Unit193Bug was just linked.06:15
elfyall of them? or just one :D06:15
Unit193LP 134770506:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1347705 in shimmer-themes (Ubuntu) "Split theme packages do not properly declare conflicts" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134770506:17
elfyyea - and 1 for each of the themes and at the moment only 1 dupe for each of the themes ... 06:18
Unit193bluesabre: https://code.launchpad.net/~smd-seandavis/ubuntu/trusty/menulibre/bug-1323405/+merge/224586 is no longer needed and can be removed. \o/06:35
elfyochosi bluesabre -release will I think what release notes from us for the .1 06:49
elfyI've shamelessly copy pasted the 14.04 release notes to a new post with a subtly different title06:49
elfyadded a place for the sru bug fixes to live06:49
elfybut won't be doing anymore to it this morning06:50
ochosielfy: i'll be back a bit later and can take a look, pls link me to what you've done so far07:12
ochosi(sorry, i'm out the door with one foot already, but if i have it in my backlog i at least won't forget...)07:12
elfyhttp://xubuntu.org/wp-admin/post.php?post=2586&action=edit07:12
elfythere it is 07:12
ochosity, bbl07:13
elfyI'll check in -release at lunchtime to see if they're shouting yet07:13
elfyyep - cya07:13
Unit193ochosi: As usual: https://launchpad.net/~unit193/+archive/ubuntu/xfce/+packages?field.name_filter=xfdash07:32
elfyUnit193: bah - missed the piskie ping re -core - I'll try and catch you later 07:34
Unit193Sure, no problem.07:35
ochosiknome: woah, what's up with the css here: http://xubuntu.org/?p=2586&preview=true (look at the grey bubble for the tahr)08:42
ochosielfy: so generally that looks good, i guess we need to add in the sru bugs now08:43
ochosifolks, i updated the release notes with the 3 srus and the docs bug, anything else i might've missed?08:49
ochosihttp://xubuntu.org/?p=258608:49
ochosielfy: i removed the xfpm bug that was part of the known issues as it was a duplicate of the black screen bug that is now fixed08:50
ochosigotta run again, bbiab08:50
bluesabrehey guys, I've got to run and won't be around most of today08:57
bluesabreUnit193, elfy: I'll fix the themes when I get back tonight... but they should be co-installable, they just don't upgrade cleanly (apt-get -f install fixes)08:58
bluesabreUnit193: I think packageset is generated by a script, and only includes the packages that we ship09:00
bluesabreI can request their addition though, so that I can upload them09:01
bluesabreBut yes, packageset is updated09:01
bluesabreok, gotta run09:01
bluesabrebbl09:01
Unit1931. Yeah, just needs to breaks/replaces => $VERSION or the like.  2. Might be handy, but yeah up to you and may just leave it automatic.09:02
Unit193Bye.09:02
slickymasterWorkskellat, I've set LP Bug 1347705 to Triaged/Low as you requested09:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1347705 in shimmer-themes (Ubuntu) "Split theme packages do not properly declare conflicts" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134770509:22
knomeochosi, dunno ;)09:27
knomehttp://xubuntu.org/team-calendar/09:27
ochosithat's handy09:33
knomei'm just trying to add it to the wiki header09:34
knomebut the wiki is playing games on me09:34
ochosiwiki: quit playing games with knome's heart!09:34
knomehah09:34
knomeok, saved (finally)09:36
knomeso meh09:36
knometbh, i have no idea for the image09:36
ochosihmf, some minwidth issue?09:37
knomenope09:37
knomei'll look at it09:37
ochosibtw, the .1 notes look fine to me, not sure there's anything else we should add09:38
ochosisaw you took out the doc thingy, wasn't sure about that one anyway09:38
knomeme?09:38
knomei didn't take out anything.09:38
ochosithen i guess somebody else did09:39
knome<div id="attachment_2466" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 298px">09:40
knome<img class="size-full wp-image-2466" width="288"09:40
knomethere's your 10px problem09:40
knomepleia2, you around?09:42
knomeochosi, fwiw:09:43
knome.wp-caption-text { margin-right: 10px; }09:43
knomeochosi, i'd probably go: "Bug fixes for the first point release"09:44
knomenot "Bug fixes for the .1 release"09:44
ochosiknome: sure, feel free to edit the article09:46
knomei need to work with other stuff :/09:46
knomeseriously, give me a break:P09:46
ochosiwell writing it here or directly into the wp editor...09:47
knomei know but it's already gone09:48
knomeyou should know better that i'm not really avoiding work09:50
knomeochosi, thanks for doing it (i see you have the lock now)09:59
ochosiknome: np10:01
ochosislickymasterWork: i've reviewed your post again btw10:20
slickymasterWorkhey ochosi 10:21
slickymasterWorkwhich one?10:21
ochosithe 12.04>14.04 article10:21
slickymasterWorkah, do you want me to change anything else?10:21
ochosii'm considering to add icons to it, so that it's not just a wall of text10:21
slickymasterWorkwhat icons are you speaking of?10:22
ochosiapplication icons10:23
ochosills, ristretto, menulibre whiskermenu10:24
slickymasterWorkah, aesthetically wise I agree with you 10:24
ochosiand for ppas the software sources icon10:24
slickymasterWorkI'm guessing you're already doing it since it's locked10:25
ochosiyup10:26
slickymasterWork:) thanks10:26
ochosinp10:26
slickymasterWorkas you're on it, you could also take a look at the inxi FAQ10:26
ochosione thing at a time10:27
ochosiit's my lunch break, so not sure how much more time i have after finalizing that post10:27
slickymasterWorkI wasn´t pressing10:27
ochosii know, just sayin i might need one more reminder ;)10:29
ochosialso, did Unit193 already review the inxi faq thingy?10:29
ochosihe knows more about it than me, so his review is more important10:30
slickymasterWorkI think so, but I'm not 100% sure10:30
slickymasterWorkUnit193: ^^^ asap, pretty please!10:30
ochosiUnit193: please let me know what you thought of slickymasterWork's inxi faq entry10:30
ochosi:)10:30
ochosidoubleping!10:31
slickymasterWork:)10:31
ochosislickymasterWork: ok, i'm pretty much done with the upgrade article, if you wanna take another look10:38
ochosimaybe i'll edit the first paragraph a little more, other than that i think it's good10:38
ochosii'd publish it after the .1 release notes10:38
slickymasterWorksorry ochosi, got cought with something here at work11:00
slickymasterWorkit looks much better with the icons, good job11:00
slickymasterWorkyeah, if you think the first paragraph can be improved, please go ahead and do it11:01
elfybluesabre ochosi - images marked ready - apparently no need for release notes so \o/ to that11:49
knomeheh :)11:51
ochosielfy: hehe, nice. well still, i guess we can hit the publish button soon on that12:01
elfyit'll need fiddling with regardless ochosi 12:02
elfybut we don't have to rush to do it today :)12:02
ochosiwell the sooner the better12:04
elfyyes 12:04
knomebtw12:05
knomethe download page needs updating once .1 images are published12:05
knomethe torrent links break since the torrent name changes12:05
elfymmm12:14
skellatThank you slickymaster for the setting on that infernal bug.  There was a new duplicate to LP Bug 1347705 this morning so eventually we'll need to address it.13:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1347705 in shimmer-themes (Ubuntu) "Split theme packages do not properly declare conflicts" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134770513:30
slickymasterWorknp skellat 13:30
slickymasterWorkhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ReleaseReports/TrustyPoint1TestingReport -> Xubuntu amd64 100.00% 100.00% and Xubuntu i386 100.00% 100.00%   \o/16:32
knomeunfortunately those reports are always a bit misleading, for xubuntu and others too16:50
knomedoes anybody really think under 10 tests per architecture for a distribution used by tens (or hundreds) of thousand is enough?16:51
slickymasterWorkknome, statistical values ​​are worth what the're worth, they are always obtained by sampling16:53
elfyslickymasterWork: the other thing with that page is if we had 10 testcase bugs and people did waht they normally do - we'd have 0% pass rate - even though we'd know it was all good really16:55
slickymasterWorkelfy: but isn't the Pass rate supposed to account only the 'passed without bugs' tests?16:59
elfypossibly - long story short - I ignore it :)16:59
slickymasterWorklol17:00
knomei think there should be some other way to generate the stats17:01
knomeor maybe it would be more beneficial to see stats for the whole cycle17:02
knomeeg. how many times any given test has been run, taking all dailies in account17:03
knomeor all builds17:03
Unit193knome: Can you add the trello calendar to that?17:15
slickymasterWorkUnit193: can you give your official review to http://xubuntu.org/?p=2548 and ping ochosi on it17:18
Unit193"...and sound cards Most importantly,..."  Missing a period?17:20
slickymasterWorkkeen eye Unit193 17:21
slickymasterWorkgive me a second and I'll fix it17:21
slickymasterWorkdone, please refresh Unit193 17:22
Unit193slickymasterWork: Generally looks fine, but if you want you can include that -x (-xx and -xxx) will give you more detailed information on whatever you're looking for.  inxi -Gxxx for example will give you much more information on your graphics card.  This is just details though, may be unneeded.17:22
Unit193You have the example of -F, while describing -f. (Need to cap the second F)17:23
elfyI still think we're just going to end up with line after line after line in support channels17:23
Unit193elfy: And, we may, but I have a backup plan for that too.17:24
slickymasterWorkI am also afraid of that elfy :P17:24
elfyso have I Unit193 17:24
elfymine entails treating it like #ubuntu and not going there ;)17:24
* slickymasterWork has a suspicion on what elfy's plan might be17:24
* slickymasterWork was certain17:25
elfylol17:25
slickymasterWorkUnit193: corrected the second 'f'17:26
Unit193slickymasterWork, ochosi: Looks fine to me.17:26
slickymasterWorkUnit193: regarding the inclusion of (some) more options, I think the original intention was to keep it as a sort of a shot list/description17:27
slickymasterWorks/shot/short17:27
slickymasterWorkeven though a shot might be welcome after work :P17:28
slickymasterWorkoh and thanks Unit193 ;)17:30
elfyUnit193: so the -o option in irc  is that needed for pastebinit to grab it?17:32
Unit193elfy: That means the pastebin link will be output to channel, not just so the user sees it.17:33
elfyok - just checking :)17:33
knomeUnit193, what trello calendar?19:30
knomeUnit193, i guess i'd need to be an admin in the trello board to look closer into that19:33
Unit193I can see it...19:33
knomei can see the calendar19:33
knomebut it'd need to be at least public to be shareable19:33
knomeand to appear in the same view, we'd need at least an iCal feed that only admins can enable19:33
Unit193Right, I somehow got a link.19:34
Unit193Think ochosi passed it to me.19:34
knomedone.19:40
knomehttp://xubuntu.org/team-calendar/ now shows the trello calendar too19:40
knomeaand better color for trello items, and week numbers visible19:45
elfythanks knome 20:13
Unit193\o/20:18
Unit193Dowh, js required. :(20:18
knomeelfy, np20:41
knomeUnit193, yeah.20:41
elfyochosi: can't remember if I said I'd miss the next team meeting or not - but I'll miss it ;)21:24
* Unit193 wonders if we should put up a pre-roll call somewhere...21:24
elfyor just do what we normally do - see who pitches up 21:25

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