[04:43] <mapps> morning
[05:52] <Myrtti> morning
[05:55] <mapps> gang related was good
[05:55] <mapps> LD
[05:55] <mapps> :D
[06:13] <Myrtti> grocery store close to the university buildings where they hold an annual Roleplaying Convention in Finland advertises: https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t1.0-9/10530719_10152334453113661_7916478887435041425_n.jpg
[06:15] <mapps> a banana:D
[06:17] <Myrtti> also it says on the bottom their _gates_ are open 24h
[06:45] <Myrtti> oooh I just realised I have milk, so I can make coffee!
[07:23] <diplo> Morning all
[07:33] <SuperMatt> http://sysadminday.com/ loooool
[08:18] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy SysAdmin Appreciation Day! :-D
[08:23] <bashrc> top of the morning
[08:32] <foobarry> \o/
[08:33] <foobarry> what can i do with a bunch of xml results from an api call to make them look nice on a web page?
[08:34] <foobarry> aha http://www.w3schools.com/xml/tryit.asp?filename=tryxml_display_table
[08:39] <JamesTait> foobarry, apply xslt
[08:40] <foobarry> thanks , i'll check it
[08:41] <JamesTait> foobarry, I'm scouring my bookmarks, I think I have a link to a good reference and tutorial.
[08:42] <foobarry> http://www.w3schools.com/xsl/xsl_transformation.asp looks ok
[08:46] <JamesTait> foobarry, that'll just about cover it. :)
[08:58] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:00] <foobarry> argh ubuntu.iso doesn't fit on 1Gb usb stick
[09:08] <SuperMatt> http://xkcd.com/705/
[09:09] <SuperMatt> obligatory xkcd post for the day
[09:13] <foobarry> worringly firefox shows the xml+xslt but chrome doesn't
[09:15] <foobarry> ah, a "security geature"
[09:23] <SuperMatt> gotta love those geatures
[09:30] <davmor2> bigcalm: do an update on 12.04 you should be able to upgrade after that :)
[09:33] <foobarry> hmm. i can't do stuff with <description>test</description> but if i have a line 		<status id="2" name="Open"/>
[09:33] <foobarry> then the examples don't cover that :(
[09:39] <xnox> i just made crispy bacon in the microwave oven.... this changes everything =)
[09:43] <JamesTait> Mmmm, bacon.
[09:49] <foobarry> been too scared to
[09:49] <foobarry> what's the recipe?
[09:54] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[09:54] <bigcalm> davmor2: okay
[09:56] <davmor2> MooDoo: I know how to fix your no work email issue, start your new job already :P
[10:02] <foobarry> fixed my xml issues with the help of an internet stranger \o/
[10:32] <davmor2> foobarry: or so you think, in reality he was a hacker who wanted access to your machine and you just invited him in ;)
[10:33] <foobarry> i conversed over irc
[10:35] <davmor2> foobarry: oh well that makes them saints obviously, cause nobody on irc would be cruel.......hunter2 :D
[10:35] <davmor2> foobarry: I'm only teasing :)  Glad to hear you got it sorted, but now you are ever so slightly paranoid right ;)
[10:36] <foobarry> he did ask me to type {}{}{}:)::(:(_:}{{}
[10:37] <foobarry> if thats the forkbomb code then its a zillion to one chance
[10:47] <davmor2> bigcalm: you'll appreciate this https://soundcloud.com/neilcic/mouthsilence
[10:50] <bigcalm> What the hell?
[10:51] <bigcalm> Very well done
[10:58] <foobarry> what the heck was taht noise
[10:58] <foobarry> its like an audio version of twitter
[11:01] <davmor2> foobarry: just keep listening it gets weirder
[11:06] <bigcalm> Aww, they censored the NIN track :(
[11:13] <davmor2> bigcalm: you got to the LoveShack to the wrong music?
[11:13] <bigcalm> 11:54 is where I'm at
[11:13] <bigcalm> Having to stop-start due to work
[11:13] <bigcalm> Now it's time for lunch!
[11:13] <davmor2> bigcalm: booo
[11:14] <bigcalm> bies
[11:14] <diddledan> wtf am I listening to?
[11:31] <davmor2> diddledan: is it melting your brain yet?
[11:31] <diddledan> davmor2: I gave up
[11:31] <davmor2> Wuss
[11:33] <davmor2> this is works I have no idea how http://factsvillage.com/dancing-spiderman-gif/
[11:42] <bigcalm> I could imagine deadpool dancing like that
[11:44] <jpds> davmor2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wga5A6R9BJg
[11:44] <Myrtti> if you didn't know already, apparently right now during ComicCon you can try out the Marvel archive thing for .99USD
[11:45] <Myrtti> it's a subscription normally for a tenner
[11:48] <diddledan> I think I need eyebleach after that video
[11:49] <davmor2> jpds: you need help :D
[11:51] <Myrtti> oh so that's where that one gif comes from
[12:12] <foobarry> mark hamill looks like hes been living on a fishing boat for 30yrs
[13:13] <jpds> davmor2: you were the one with the dance GIF.
[13:15] <davmor2> jpds: only cause it landed in my inbox on google plus
[13:16] <foobarry> trying to find something on the internet that i can only remember few details of.
[13:16] <foobarry> short story, possibly true, about a guy who lost his job but just went into a spare office and persauded them he was the area manager now
[13:18] <foobarry> ah, what a stroke of luck
[13:18] <foobarry> https://sites.google.com/site/forgottenemployee/
[14:06] <mapps> hey all
[14:09] <daftykins> o/
[14:10] <mapps> racing on mondayD
[14:10] <mapps> last evening racing of the summer at uttoxeter
[14:10] <mapps> hope its sunny
[14:13] <diddledan> it's raining! :-o
[14:14] <penguin42> no it's not
[14:15] <mapps> shame the trains are so rubbish
[14:15] <mapps> last train 21;07 last race 20;55
[14:15] <mapps> probab;y have to miss last race:<
[14:17] <diddledan> it's also thunderising
[14:23] <davmor2> this made my friday http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/comedy/10985111/British-inventor-builds-giant-fart-machine-to-fire-at-France.html
[14:30] <daftykins> mapps: did you see my link to the screenshot i took of android on the VPN? :>
[14:31] <daftykins> foobarry: heh this tale is amusing so far
[14:51] <foobarry> Myrtti: my wife is going to a yarn and spinning show tomorrow,
[14:51] <Myrtti> ooherrr!
[14:51] <foobarry> think its near bedford
[14:52] <foobarry> http://www.fibre-east.co.uk/
[14:53] <penguin42> not my type of fibre
[14:53] <foobarry> i have fibre to the cupboard at home
[14:53] <foobarry> and to the bedroom
[14:53] <Myrtti> thank god I don't have drivers licence
[14:53] <Myrtti> or a car
[14:53] <foobarry> she will buy a kromksi wheel if its discounted
[14:53] <foobarry> she borrowed one a month ago
[14:54] <foobarry> and has been beavering away
[14:54] <foobarry> looks right up your street this show
[14:54] <foobarry> metaphorically
[14:55] <foobarry> does mr Myrtti drive?
[14:56] <Myrtti> I'm not sure I'd dare to ask him to waste his day there...
[14:56] <daftykins> that's what trains are for
[14:57] <brobostigon> chooochoooo
[14:57] <daftykins> haha
[14:59] <Myrtti> daftykins: I'm not going to waste 4hours in a train to get there and 4hours to get back, if the trip is 36miles by car.
[15:00] <foobarry> than a half hour journey
[15:00] <foobarry> 1hr round trip , mr Myrtti could do it
[15:02] <daftykins> ah, car mentality.
[15:04] <davmor2> Myrtti: fly you must have a local airport :D
[15:04] <foobarry> train is good for point to pint
[15:09] <penguin42> problem with airports is the hour of security queuing, and then you have to add another 30min-hour extra time just in case, and you end up having to turn up 2 hours before it's due, so it takes longer than the train journey
[15:12] <daftykins> foobarry: haha, was that a genuine pub reference? :>
[15:12] <foobarry> nope
[15:12] <foobarry> accibeerindetall
[15:21] <davmor2> JamesTait: Hey dude does that mean you were one of the fools on the dancefloor square dancing to Cotton Eye Joe?
[15:22] <JamesTait> davmor2, doesn't sound like the kind of thing I'd do.
[15:23] <davmor2> JamesTait: So that that's a yes but only after enough drink :D
[15:24] <JamesTait> davmor2, maybe 20 years ago....
[15:25] <davmor2> JamesTait: It would of been 20 years ago :P
[15:25] <davmor2> JamesTait: 1994
[15:25]  * JamesTait feels he's missed something important somewhere.
[15:27] <davmor2> JamesTait: You were on about how Startrekking took you back to student days So it dawned on me you would party going night cluber in the early-mid 90's :)
[15:28] <daftykins> http://www.ebuyer.com/517639-lenovo-iomega-ix2-2tb-2-bay-desktop-nas-70a69000ea
[15:28] <JamesTait> davmor2, not Startrekking, the other one.  High state of Consciousness or whatever.
[15:28] <daftykins> super cheap 2 x 1TB NAS there
[15:28] <davmor2> JamesTait: oh yes
[15:28] <davmor2> Josh wink higher state of consciousness
[15:28] <JamesTait> I'm pretty sure I wasn't dancing to Cotton Eye Joe at Uni though.
[15:29] <JamesTait> Only the 6th Form leaver's do.
[15:29] <daftykins> ;)
[15:29] <davmor2> hahaha
[15:29] <davmor2> I knew you'd be dancing to it somewhere :D
[15:29] <JamesTait> Possinly with my chemistry teacher.
[15:29] <JamesTait> *Possibly
[15:30] <davmor2> JamesTait: Please say she was a woman
[15:30] <JamesTait> We were her first class.
[15:30] <davmor2> JamesTait: ahhhhhhhhhhhhh
[15:30] <JamesTait> She wasn't prepared for how gutted she'd feel that we were leaving.
[15:30] <davmor2> hahaha
[15:30] <JamesTait> She got very tearful at the end of the night, bless her.
[15:31] <daftykins> heh
[15:33] <davmor2> JamesTait: I'm currently listening to Robert miles Children
[15:36] <daftykins> now there's a blast from the past, the ol' instrumental track
[15:36] <JamesTait> davmor2, name rings a bell.  I remember the entire world going ga-ga over it.  Can't bring the song to mind, though, my brain keeps playing Tubular Bells.
[15:36] <daftykins> :D quick piano work, was that one
[15:37] <daftykins> or more keyboard, really
[15:38] <JamesTait> davmor2, indeed.  :)
[15:38] <JamesTait> daftykins, even.
[15:38] <JamesTait> This heat is getting to me.
[15:39] <davmor2> JamesTait: there was that and Mark snows X-files music at similar times
[15:39] <daftykins> mmm, i woke up in a 27 deg C bedroom
[15:39] <daftykins> not nice at all
[15:40] <davmor2> daftykins: could of been worse, could of been a 72 deg C bedroom in which case the place is likely on fire
[15:40] <daftykins> lol
[15:40] <daftykins> i wonder if the cat would wake me in such a case
[15:41] <davmor2> daftykins: no it would just leg it
[15:41] <JamesTait> daftykins, it would wake you if it were hungry.
[15:42] <daftykins> :D
[15:43] <davmor2> oh moby extreme ways nice
[15:50] <davmor2> I should hit shuffle on rhythmbox more often now into all along the watchtower :D
[15:50] <daftykins> it's great until you go from really light, to really heavy
[15:51] <daftykins> or it starts playing that thing you don't know because you've intended to get around to trying it but never quite did
[15:53] <davmor2> daftykins: Most of my music is 70's 80's and early 90's with the odd bit from 2000's there is no such thing as too heavy ;)
[15:55] <daftykins> i've been on the Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin and so on a lot of late
[16:02] <davmor2> oh dirty diana and now back in black
[16:20] <diddledan> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60eKauWFFPk
[18:20] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/sdew7skkm4nqvtu/AAA0XrUF4J0Cd2pmw3lSCaZ6a
[18:20] <daftykins> I've been operating on laptops again :)
[18:33] <penguin42> ah yes, I think I see your problem, look closely at the right on image 12
[18:36] <diddledan> yeah, it looks like it's got the vista defect
[18:37] <daftykins> it's running ubuntu 12.04 :>
[18:38] <daftykins> horrible, horrible design... LCD off to get the motherboard out
[19:00] <mapps> urgh tpp hpt and sticky here
[19:02] <penguin42> here as well
[19:04] <mapps> its hard to feel like doing anything
[19:04] <mapps> dont wanna sit at my pc..dont wanna watch tv
[19:04] <mapps> lol
[19:08] <daftykins> :D
[19:08] <penguin42> sleep?
[19:09] <daftykins> one cannot sleep in this! ;)
[19:10] <mapps> pff
[19:10] <mapps> man thats hard in this heat
[19:10] <mapps> i wakeip 2-3x and hot as
[19:10] <mapps> cant open windows too much traffic
[19:13] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/x6t0sm44w12zssu/IMG_20140725_201133.jpg
[19:13] <daftykins> ah much improved temps
[19:14] <daftykins> hey mapps check out this surgery - ;) https://www.dropbox.com/sh/sdew7skkm4nqvtu/AAA0XrUF4J0Cd2pmw3lSCaZ6a
[19:15] <foobarry> got a possible corrupted fs
[19:16] <foobarry>  mount /dev/sdd1 /mnt/usb/
[19:16] <foobarry> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[19:16] <foobarry> is there anything like e2fsck for ext4?
[19:17] <foobarry> if indeed it is ext4 :S the label just say linux
[19:17] <daftykins> do you not always specify the fs? i do
[19:17] <daftykins> "mount -t ext4 /dev/sdd1 /mnt/usb"
[19:20]  * penguin42 doesn't normally - it normally figures it out
[19:20] <foobarry> mount -t ext4 /dev/sdd1 /mnt/usb
[19:20] <foobarry> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdd1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so
[19:20] <foobarry> [ 3253.906616] EXT4-fs (sdd1): VFS: Can't find ext4 filesystem
[19:21] <penguin42> foobarry: fsck should check it and run the ext4 fsck
[19:21] <penguin42> foobarry: so just do fsck /dev/sdd1 - are you sure it's sdd1 ?
[19:21] <foobarry> fsck.ext2: Superblock invalid, trying backup blocks...
[19:21] <foobarry> fsck.ext2: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sdd1
[19:21] <foobarry> The superblock could not be read or does not describe a valid ext2/ext3/ext4
[19:21] <foobarry> /dev/sdd1            2048   156249999    78123976   83  Linux
[19:22] <foobarry> it was working before i unmounted it and brought it home from work :(
[19:22] <foobarry> e2fsck -b 32768 /dev/sdd1
[19:22] <foobarry> e2fsck 1.42.9 (4-Feb-2014)
[19:22] <foobarry> e2fsck: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sdd1
[19:23] <foobarry> Partition Table: msdos
[19:23] <foobarry> hmmm
[19:24] <foobarry> nah that was not true
[19:24] <penguin42> foobarry: Go back a step, check /proc/partitions to see what you think is your device is there and the right size
[19:25] <foobarry> yep its there
[19:27] <penguin42> damn, the simple things are always easier
[19:27] <penguin42> foobarry: ok, does fdisk  onthe device show you what you expect
[19:27] <foobarry> installing testdisk
[19:27] <foobarry> and crying
[19:27] <foobarry> *may not be crying
[19:29] <penguin42> if it was a physically bad disk it would be moaning in the log
[19:32] <foobarry> thats why i think corrupt fs
[19:32] <foobarry> testdisk is listing the files!
[19:32] <penguin42> what did you do to it last?
[19:33] <foobarry> unmounted and put in my bag
[19:35] <penguin42> oh well, if you're going to do dangerous things like that
[19:35] <daftykins> XD
[19:35] <foobarry> slaps penguin42 with a fish
[19:36] <foobarry> strangely testdisk sees the partition and files
[19:40]  * penguin42 grabs it
[19:40] <daftykins> love this HP's ubuntu install
[19:40] <daftykins> "723 packages can be updated"
[19:40] <daftykins> "318 updates are security updates"
[19:41] <penguin42> daftykins: We do get lots of updates
[19:41] <daftykins> this person's never done one XD
[19:42] <foobarry> thankyou Jesus and testdisk
[19:42] <foobarry> \o/
[19:44] <foobarry> 74G   56G   14G  81% /mnt/usb
[19:46] <davmor2> daftykins: set it to autoupdate security updates
[19:46] <foobarry> ther's a package for that
[19:46] <foobarry> autocron?
[19:47] <Myrtti> unattended-upgrades
[19:47] <davmor2> foobarry: what Myrtti said
[19:47] <foobarry> that it be
[19:48] <daftykins> davmor2: it's being wiped
[19:48] <daftykins> now i've fixed it, it's miiiiine
[19:49] <daftykins> although it has a broken DVD drive
[19:49] <davmor2> daftykins: back to windows vista then right?
[19:49] <daftykins> ugh, i'd rather not install that :)
[19:49] <daftykins> i'm not sure what to do with it, a 1.9GHz Athlon 64 X2 with 2GB RAM isn't all that
[19:50] <Jay_> hi
[19:50] <daftykins> hello
[19:51] <davmor2> foobarry: or via http://davmor2.co.uk/~davmor2/screenshots-desktop/autoupdate.png
[19:51] <davmor2> Damn Stairway to Heaven is a good track
[19:52] <Jay_> does one of you guys know if there is a way to add a dummy option (one that will not be used by a program) to a shell cmd line. So that you could more easily track the process via PS
[19:52] <penguin42> which process?
[19:53] <penguin42> Jay_: A lot of processes ignore stuff after --   or at least don't treat them as options any more
[19:53] <Jay_> But would it still appear if looking for it via ps aux | grep
[19:54] <foobarry> Jay_: can you give a more concrete example
[19:54] <Jay_> yes
[19:54] <foobarry> they may be a better way
[19:54] <foobarry> e.g using the alias command
[19:54] <Jay_> for example, for any process you could add - - id 123456789
[19:54] <foobarry> why not just track the pid?
[19:55] <Jay_> then you could find the id of the previously launch process by doing ps aux | grep 123456789
[19:55] <Jay_> well
[19:55] <Jay_> sometimes when you launch a program by cmd line
[19:55] <Jay_> the process id often changes
[19:55] <foobarry> um
[19:55] <foobarry> do you mean a shell script that spawns a new one?
[19:55] <foobarry> they will have the same parent id
[19:56] <Jay_> I mean if I launch a program via a python script with Popen for example
[19:56] <Jay_> subprocess module will report a different pid, for example 450; when the actual pid is 451
[19:57] <penguin42> Jay_: pstree is one thing that helps
[19:57] <foobarry> check the PPID column
[19:59] <Jay_> Didn't think of that, gonna look into it, thanks!
[19:59] <foobarry> np
[20:01] <foobarry> long daddy day with teh kids tomorrow
[20:01] <foobarry> nighty night all
[20:10] <DJones> AlanBell: Might be interesting read (assuming your still on irc) https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/elibrary/case/toulouse-saves-1-million-euro-libreoffice
[20:21]  * DJones reminds himself, never go shopping with your wife, it gets expensive when it comes to cars
[20:23] <penguin42> ohoh, what did you buy?
[20:31] <mapps> anyone got any idea why my shoutcast is still showing my old ip for streamurl from sc_trans_basic.conf ..edited the file checked etc
[20:31] <mapps> http://frogs.zapto.org:8000/index.html?sid=1
[20:32] <mapps> 94.193.78.219 ismy old ip streamurl now set to my dyndns
[21:27] <zleap> ok anyone here remember windows 3.1
[21:27] <zleap> ?
[21:28] <Myrtti> 3.11 for Networks
[21:28] <zleap> http://wiki.tcl.tk/8595 -
[21:28] <zleap> sorry wrong link
[21:28] <zleap> Myrtti, http://zleap.net/dosbox-and-win3-1/
[21:28] <Myrtti> nice
[21:28] <zleap> 3 seconds to load
[21:29] <zleap> i think
[21:51] <zleap> Myrtti, my next task is to test on the pi
[21:53] <Myrtti> I've been fiddling with irssi theming agani
[21:54] <Myrtti> compiled the RC few days back, it's got 256 color support
[21:54] <Myrtti> decided to redo an old theme of mine that ten years ago I wished I had had 256 colours in my use
[21:55] <Myrtti> it looks absolutely horrid, but so does the original
[22:03] <zleap> ok pi + dosbox + win3.1
[22:19] <Myrtti> smile, you're on a screenshot!
[22:20] <penguin42> ohoh
[22:22] <Myrtti> https://flic.kr/p/osV65o :-D
[22:28] <mapps> do i go out tonight or not
[22:28] <mapps> hmm
[22:31] <penguin42> Myrtti: well, it's an interesting colour scheme you have
[22:34] <daftykins> too much pink!
[22:34] <Myrtti> https://plus.google.com/u/0/100016383867666174158/posts/daGJhqm4f9A
[22:36] <penguin42> ah, yes, it's getting there - have you considered changing the background?
[22:36] <Myrtti> why would I, I love my Studio Ghibli one ♥ http://imgur.com/gallery/wTApy
[22:36] <penguin42> yellow should help in your aim
[22:36] <penguin42> no, I meant of the irc terminal
[22:36] <Myrtti> no, black is fine.
[22:36] <penguin42> but it's far too readable
[22:37] <Myrtti> I'm not a total idiot... it even works if tmux isn't playing ball
[22:37] <Myrtti> then it looks almost like my old roses.theme
[22:49] <dwatkins> anyone in the UK around who could run a get_iplayer command for me, please?
[22:49] <dwatkins> get_iplayer --pid p02169t0
[22:49] <dwatkins> I seem to get a corrupted file, sadly.
[22:49] <dwatkins> It's a Mogwai gig from Glastonbury.
[22:49] <Myrtti> I would but our home server has a harddrive on the blink and it's time for bed
[22:50] <Myrtti> good night
[22:50] <dwatkins> np, sleep well Myrtti :)
[22:51] <dwatkins> If anyone manages to grab it this weekend at some point, please PM me, thanks.
[22:58] <daftykins> Mogwai!
[22:58] <daftykins> \o/
[23:03] <daftykins> i'm giving it a try
[23:04] <penguin42> is this still the fallout from the beebs screwup the other day?
[23:07] <daftykins> they had a screwup?
[23:07] <penguin42> a big outage for a few days
[23:08] <daftykins> nasty!
[23:09] <penguin42> daftykins: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/internet/posts/BBC-Online-outage
[23:09] <daftykins> ty sir
[23:15] <daftykins> 90%
[23:18] <daftykins> dwatkins: worked ok here sir, shall transfer to a web server and link you momentarily