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TJ-zaltekk: I asked earlier:  "Does the system have only one audio device? sometimes an HDMI audio device gets listed first and becomes the default device" ... looking at that output, that could be what has happened. the module has found the devices, but HDMI is the first device configured00:00
TJ-zaltekk: look at offset 21.86 seconds00:00
zaltekkTJ-: no devices are displayed by aplay -l00:00
zaltekkso it isn't an issue of selecting the correct device00:00
zaltekki can't play audio over hdmi right now either00:00
TJ-zaltekk: So alsa is not finding the kernel-configured devices00:00
TJ-zaltekk: that helps narrow the issue down00:01
zaltekkshit.00:01
zaltekkTJ-:00:01
zaltekkas root i see them with aplay -l00:01
zaltekk*sigh* shouldn've tried that a long time ago00:01
OerHeksNimble, so you want to fool an SSH login ? like http://www.janusz.nl/how-to-deploy-kippo-ssh-honeypot-on-ubuntu/00:01
NimbleI guess00:01
NimbleI want to maintain a tunnel with a computer00:01
Nimblebut I don't want the user on the other side of the tunnel to have a legitimate shell00:02
okabeis there a way to add other directories for dash to index?00:02
NimbleI'm setting up a reverse shell00:02
Nimbleto get through a NAT00:02
theToastIsDonehi guys... i guess this is a generic bash question about finding and copying files... is there a better channel to do that in?00:02
zaltekkall for not. somehow i got removed from the audio group when installing and reinstalling packages00:02
zaltekkand users00:03
TJ-zaltekk: aha!00:03
zaltekkno idea what could've done that. i removed the kubuntu package because i never leave i3 now00:03
NimbleOerHeks, nothing shows up on that page. Is the content loaded by javascript? If so, that's disappointing.00:03
zaltekki wonder if that somehow removed me from groups00:03
Bashing-omzaltekk: :: TJ- ; Not for naught, I found the exercise instructive !00:04
OerHeksNimble, i think so yes, just an blog00:04
zaltekkgoing to restart back to the stock kernel module and see if it works(i assume it will)00:04
TJ-zaltekk: I can imagine a scenario if a package removed and recreated the audio group, but I can't imagine such a core user account having that done to it00:04
NimbleOerHeks, okay, well I don't care about faking a whole shell as the user will not actually be needing anything other than to keep the connection alive00:05
Nimbleso I don't want to set up a full blown honeypot00:05
NimbleOerHeks, I've seen some people say that you can use /bin/false or /usr/sbin/nologin as the default shell for a user, but those programs exit00:06
Vyse007Guys, my localtime is always 4 hours behind the Universal time and the RTC time as shown by 'timedatectl status'. How do I fix this?00:06
Nimbleand I'm not sure if that will also close the connection00:06
TJ-Nimble: Surely you just need something like "command="sleep 172800" " in "~/.ssh/authorized_keys" of the remote server?00:06
NimbleTJ-, well, O00:07
Nimblewhoops00:07
TJ-Nimble: That's how I do it for relayed reverse remote SSH support00:07
NimbleTJ-, well, I'd prefer that the other end can't adjust it at all00:07
Bashing-omVyse007: Dual booting with Windows ?00:07
Vyse007Bashing-om: Nope, running in VM.00:08
ObrienDavejon-work, 14.04.1 is available through sudo apt-get dist-upgrade00:08
NimbleI don't want other curious admins poking around at what's on the user's screen session and being able to get a shell to a different computer00:08
TJ-Nimble: Use a RemoteForward as well? have a separate account to connect to, then use RemoteForward and 'nc' to link them over a TCP localhost connection on the remote host?00:08
jon-workObrienDave, it doesn't work for me. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.00:08
Nimbleis RemoteForward the -R option?00:09
ObrienDavejon-work, try, cat /etc/issue00:09
jon-workUbuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l00:09
paulo_hello00:09
ObrienDavejon-work, ok, you'll have to wait for the official release00:10
k1l_!ltsupgrade | jon-work00:10
ubottujon-work: LTS to LTS upgrades are not offered automatically until the .1 release has been issued. Ubuntu 14.04.1 is due for release on 24th July, and you will only see an option to upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 after that date.00:10
jon-worklol?00:10
jon-workis today not july 24th?00:10
k1l_jon-work: apt-get dist-upgrade will not make it to 14.0400:10
jon-work14.04.1?00:10
k1l_jon-work: you need "do-release-upgrade" for that if you are on 12.0400:10
jon-workUbuntu 14.04.1 is due for release on 24th July,00:11
jon-workwhat does this mean?00:11
NimbleTJ-, do you mean the -R option?00:11
paulo_I need a kernel's debugging symbols. how do I get this without debugging?00:11
k1l_jon-work: you run the wrong commands.00:11
jon-workso 14.04.1 is not going to be released on july 24th, is that right?00:11
k1l_jon-work: stop00:11
TJ-Nimble: have you ever seen pwnat? ( http://samy.pl/pwnat/  )00:11
k1l_jon-work: do a "sudo do-release-upgrade"00:12
zaltekkTJ-: not sure. like i said, i removed a lot of the core "desktop" packages00:12
Nimblenever, TJ-00:12
zaltekkand xorg was pratically reinstalled00:12
blur702When adding a virtual host to apache, where do I add the directives? I'm just used to adding the < virtualhost> info in the apache.conf..00:12
jon-workChecking for a new Ubuntu release00:12
jon-workNo new release found00:12
Nimblebut I'll check it out, it looks like I might be able to use it00:12
k1l_jon-work: right: no announcement so far: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2014-July/date.html00:13
usr_Today is 14.04.1 Release Date.  Where is 12.04 to 14.04 update?00:13
jon-worklol00:13
NimbleTJ-, this looks like it will solve several other issues for me that I haven't even gotten to yet, so thanks a lot!00:13
angel_hi, i have an ubuntu live usb and an acer aspire p3 that i want to format but i can't get it to boot from the usb00:14
ObrienDaveangel_, you need to set USB booting up in BIOS00:14
zaltekkalso, it's working fine now00:14
zaltekkglad to see there wasn't a real issue00:14
TJ-zaltekk: *phew* I hate audio issues, avoid them like the plague - worst things ever to diagnose over IRC!00:15
anonymous__should we ddos brazzers again?00:15
gunarmi got a RNX-N600UBE usb wifi adapter and I'm trying to get it working, plugging it in didn't do anything, https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Rosewill_RNX-N600UBE_v1 has a linux driver but says "for kernel 2.6.31 or below"00:15
gunarmand https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Rosewill_RNX-N600UBE_v1 says "USB ID first seen in kernel v2.6.31"00:16
zaltekksadly i overlooked checking the audio group because i knew i was already in it00:16
TJ-zaltekk: I know the feeling... I remind myself every time I waste an hour only to find a cable is faulty :)00:16
gunarmwhich implies to me it should now be supported by the kernel... (but i'm iffy on how that works)  if it should be supported by the kernel already.... what do I do to make it show up in ifconfig?00:17
gunarmangel_, have you used ubuntu on that laptop before?  I am using aspire s3 as we speak but man it was a struggle to get things working right in ubuntu00:18
TJ-gunarm: first thing to do is get the exact manufacturer:device ID using "lsusb" (it looks like e.g. A4F2:052C)00:18
TJ-gunarm: Second thing to do is search which kernel driver is responsible for that device ID, using "grep -i '148f.*3572' /lib/modules/`uname -r`/modules*" (you may need to replace the search term values 148f and 3572)00:21
gunarm148f:557200:21
angel_gunarm, yes i have been using ubuntu for 7 years.00:21
TJ-gunarm: third thing is to check that kernel module is loaded using "lsmod | grep rt2800usb" (if "rt2800usb" was the module reported)00:21
angel_ObrienDave, found a youtube tutorial on how to get bios, thanks00:21
TJ-gunarm: if "lsmod..." returns no results the kernel module isn't loaded, if it returns results, the kernel module (driver) is loaded and you can move on to looking at the system configuration00:22
ObrienDaveangel_, you need to set 1, CD/DVD 2, external HD 3, internal HD. or something like that00:23
TJ-gunarm: assuming all that checks out, then you list all the wireless interfaces with "iwconfig" and identify the wireless interface name (probably wlan0)00:24
gunarmangel_, i meant have you been using it on *that* laptop, since I had problems with aspires00:25
gunarmTJ-, hrm so if grepping the modules  folder doesn't find anything, it might not be supported?00:25
ObrienDaveangel_, you need to set, #1 CD/DVD, #2 external HD, #3 internal HD. or something like that00:25
ObrienDaveangel_, for clarification :)00:26
TJ-gunarm: Yes. which Ubuntu release do you have there? "cat /etc/issue && uname -r"00:26
gunarmTJ-, 12.04.4   3.2.0-67-generic00:27
TJ-gunarm: That's why, it's too old. The 5572 support was introduced in kernel v3.10, see https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Ralink_RT557200:28
gunarmTJ-, does that mean i'll need to leave the 12.04 lts if I want support for it?00:29
gunarmor rebuild my kernel i guess?00:29
TJ-gunarm: You could install the Trusty HardWare Enablement pack (HWE), which would support it. See here for details of HWE for 12.04. Take note that all but the Trusty (14.04.1) HWE have not support/runs out next month. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack00:29
gunarmgreat thanks.  better than nothing!00:30
TJ-gunarm: You'll want "linux-generic-lts-trusty" and "xserver-xorg-lts-trusty" if you go that route00:31
angel_gunarm, no, never, its new.00:33
angel_ObrienDave, but now i get an error that my kernel image is corrupted00:33
ObrienDaveangel_, did the USB boot ok?00:34
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angel_ObrienDave, yes i am at unetbootin00:35
angel_restarted the coputer and i see the unetbootin options00:36
angel_but it  stays there00:36
gunarmTJ-, i notice that page says HWE is only compatible with x86 and I have x86_6400:36
ObrienDaveangel_, sounds like a bad transfer to USB, try again or burn ISO to DVD00:36
angel_ObrienDave, it doesn't have cd dvd drive, just usb00:37
ObrienDaveangel_, then try transfer to USB again or use a different utility00:37
gunarmangel_, mine was brand new also, it basically worked but a few things like touchpad didn't work, also the internal wifi card lost connection all the time but I finally figured out that's not ubuntus fault just shoddy parts00:37
gunarmhttp://www.linlap.com/acer that page helped me but it doesn't have one for p3 so maybe its pretty compatible00:38
angel_ObrienDave, what do you mean transfer to usb again?00:38
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angel_and acer aspire p3 has one usb port, one hdmi and thats it00:38
ObrienDaveangel_, use unetbootin to remake the USB or a different utility like tuxboot00:38
it_hello all00:39
ObrienDaveangel_, what OS is on the laptop?00:39
jay_Anyone who's heard my issues still around?00:40
angel_ObrienDave, windows 800:40
jay_Yo OerHeks: I uninstalled just about all of my ppas00:40
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ObrienDaveangel_, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/#USB-Creators00:41
jay_Can someone help me with some graphics issues?00:41
ObrienDave!ask | jay_00:42
ubottujay_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience00:42
ObrienDave!uefi | angel_00:42
ubottuangel_: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI00:42
TJ-gunarm: The "x86" means Intel/AMD x86 processor types (32-bit ix86 and 64-bit amd64)00:43
ObrienDaveangel_, do you want to replace Win8 or run alongside?00:43
gunarmTJ-, thank you00:44
gunarmTJ-, so like as opposed to ARM or something then00:44
TJ-gunarm: You took the example right out of my mouth :)00:44
jay_I've had a huge amount of issues today mainly pertaining to graphics. My X environment got wiped out and I had to reinstall everything pertaining to X (I probably forgot about a lot of stuff). I'm just trying to get my environment back to normal. My first question is about drivers: I have intel integrated 4400 graphics but glxinfo as well as "Details" tells me that my Driver is "Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x300)" is this what it should be or should it be intel d00:44
gunarmTJ-, ;)00:44
ObrienDavejay_, that would probably depend on the mobo manufacturer00:45
TJ-jay_: When packages go missing, you can repair the stack simply with, for example, "sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop" (or "kubuntu-desktop", or "lubtuntu-desktop" depending on which Flavour is required)00:45
okabeis it possible to add other directories for dash to index?00:46
ObrienDaveor xubuntu-desktop ;P00:46
jay_TJ-: Will that overwrite anything? Also I was having some issues with PPAs breaking things by installing other packages (I think)00:46
TJ-jay_: It will reinstall all packages that are part of the "ubuntu-desktop" ... if PPAs have installed newer packages that might throw a spanner into the works.00:48
jay_TJ-: About the PPAs. I called ppa-purge on almost all of them, but they still show up in Ubuntu Software Center00:49
TJ-jay_: The package for the intel drivers should be "xserver-xorg-video-intel"00:49
TJ-jay_: Are they ticked in the software sources list, or unticked. If unticked, that means they are known but not in use00:50
chrstphrchvzDoes the size of /boot/grub vary by installation or over time, making it undesirable for separate partition? see description: http://ur1.ca/htmwi (Unsure if a support or development question, since I am seeking knowledge/opinion.)00:50
superdave321Anyone able to help with ajenti?00:50
jay_TJ-: They're not even in the list, though ubuntu-x-swwat ppa is in there and is check, is that an issue? Also I tried to apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel and I got "xserver-xorg-video-intel set to manually installed.00:52
TJ-chrstphrchvz: Yes, it can vary slightly as newer kernels are installed, if older kernels aren't also removed. I generally use a 512MB /boot/ file-system partition00:52
angel_ObrienDave, replace w800:52
TJ-jay_: My guess would be the x-swat PPA would be providing all the X stack, so if you're using it, keep it... don't try to back out to the main archive unless you want more breakage00:53
Timon_CrazyAll system administrators to congratulate "SysAdmin Day" (the last Friday of July)!00:53
jay_TJ-: Okay. and about the the intel drivers?00:54
TJ-jay_: " set to manually installed" simply means the dependency system now thinks it ought not to remove that package, even if you remove all the packages that depend on it - the rest of the X server stack!00:54
ReversePhaseHow can I give all users access to /dev/udp ?00:54
jay_TJ-: So in theory it _should_ be reporting that my drivers are intel?00:55
TJ-jay_: usually, when you "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" that depends on the xorg-xserver which in turn depends on the various xserver packages, so removing "ubuntu-desktop" would have apt tell you that all the dependent packages can be "autoremove"-d. When one of those packages is "manually installed" "apt-get autoremove" won't remove it00:56
Bashing-omchrstphrchvz: A separate /boot is something of an anachronism, dating back to limited PC BIOSes that could only handle small disks, so the boot files had to be at the start of the disk. Nowadays, this is no longer applicable .00:56
TJ-jay_: that may depend on the X server's "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" if there is one. If there isn't and therefore the X server os auto-detecting, then I'd expect it to use the Intel driver00:56
TJ-jay_: Assuming the intel driver(s) from x-swat do support that chipset, which I'd imagine they ought to00:57
jay_TJ-: There's no xorg.conf00:57
chrstphrchvzTJ-, I mean specifically /boot/grub rather than /boot (i.e. as an alternative). E.g. I can keep /boot on my root partition, and use a separate /boot/grub, but is a good idea? (I know it works.)00:57
TJ-chrstphrchvz: You're asking to confuse GRUB, since it expects /boot/ and /boot/grub/ to be in the same root file-system00:58
TJ-chrstphrchvz: but specifically, grub/ doesn't vary much in size, it contains the GRUB loadable modules, the saved environment, and grub.cfg00:59
angel_does someone here owns an acer aspire p3?00:59
jay_TJ-: On a slightly unrelated note. Workspace switcher use to be really fluid, if I went up I could see the programs in front of my move down, moreso the small boxes on the workspace display in the center of my screen were the actual copies of my desktop. I could see the background, the various windows open, etc. Now when I switch workspaces the result is instantanious and theres no fluidity at all. The small boxes representing the 4 workspaces have also now turned 01:03
jay_me*01:03
chrstphrchvzBashing-om, GRUB is (theoretically) able to boot LVM etc. (what it is typically installed with nowadays) without a /boot partition, but it can result in "core.img unusually large" and failing to install (see description for cases).01:04
TJ-jay_: That sounds like a result if the slower 2D software graphics driver being used01:04
ice9bluetooth on/off status is reset when logoff, how to keep it?01:04
angel_does someone here know how to iinstall ubuntu on a tablet with one usb slot?01:04
MrMadManangel_,  depends on the tablet and its hardware01:05
jay_TJ-: Okay, so how do you propose I switch back to intel drivers?01:06
chrstphrchvzTJ-, how is it confusing GRUB? grub-install is OK with it once mounted properly (and in fstab), and even manually specifying a /boot/grub partition at install time is OK.01:06
angel_MrMadMan, acer aspire p3. the problem is that i get to the unetbootin options but once there i can't click any options01:06
ReversePhaseany way to allow the www-data user access to  /dev/udp ?01:06
TJ-chrstphrchvz: the update-grub scripts might generate incorrect UUIDs in some circumstances01:07
Bashing-omchrstphrchvz: LVM is out of my sphere of knowledge, No idea how one would boot up a full LVM system .01:07
TJ-Bashing-om: GRUB has raid and lvm modules, it can initialise a PV->VG->LV to find file-systems01:08
MrMadManangel_,  you have just tried to exstract the iso and then sync it to usb ?  I am not that good with that tablet in fact never seen on or tried to install any thing on it01:09
DarkAceXtremeam I able to transfer/duplicate my current Ubuntu system to another drive?01:09
ObrienDaveDarkAceXtreme, with a cloning utility like clonezilla, yes01:10
MrMadManangel_, I also think that you might need a keyboard just to get to the OS or set it up so that it goes to install auto style01:10
DarkAceXtremesounds neat01:10
jay_TJ-: Should I reinstall ubuntu desktop to get the intel drivers or is there something I should setup with xorg.conf?01:11
ObrienDaveDarkAceXtreme, works good, i just used clonezilla to transfer Win7 and Xubuntu to a 1.5TB drive. no problems except for time involved LOL01:12
DarkAceXtremeheh, sounds like it could take a while01:12
TJ-jay_: I'm not sure, the drivers should be auto-loaded by the X server. If they aren't, check "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for diagnostic information, warnings, errors, etc.01:12
angel_MrMadMan, the problem is i have only one usb slot so i can't plug a keyboard01:12
TJ-angel_: USB hub?01:13
ObrienDaveDarkAceXtreme, hours and hours01:13
angel_TJ- ??01:13
MrMadManangel_, there is no way to use usb hubs ?01:13
TJ-angel_: tablet <> USB HUB > USB devices01:13
MrMadManor make a compiled example via buildroot01:13
jay_TJ-: My log is filled with a bunch of this error: FBDEV(0): FBIOPUTCMAP: Invalid argument01:14
angel_MrMadMan, TJ-  didn't knew they were called that01:14
TJ-jay_: That doesn't look good01:14
MrMadManangel_,  that what was called that ?01:14
jay_TJ-: I agree... Also when I grep for intel I get http://pastebin.com/6j4a7LcT01:15
TJ-jay_: can you pastebin "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" ?01:15
TJ-jay_: I think that error is caused by a mismatch between libdrm and the X server drivers01:16
angel_MrMadMan, TJ- ok i will try to get a usb hub but i don't have one right now. is there a way to get the tablet to boot?01:16
ObrienDaveDarkAceXtreme, http://clonezilla.org/clonezilla-live.php01:16
jay_TJ-: Here's the entire log http://pastebin.com/pCKxnEev01:17
DarkAceXtremeObrienDave, thanks. I'm thinking about buying a new 2TB hard drive, because I want to play some games that are windows-only, and Direct X isn't very stable in virtualbox yet :P01:17
DarkAceXtremeand I don't know if it's safe to partition my current primary drive01:17
ObrienDaveDarkAceXtreme, never will be stable in a VM ;P01:18
MrMadManangel_,  you could make a OS that boots right to you DM or nodm ect.  look at things like buildroot and chroot and UCK and also remastersys01:18
TJ-angel_: I don't know, never investigated, you'd need to read up what other owners of that device have experienced01:18
DarkAceXtremeand if it is, it still is probably dangerous to have Windows on the same drive as anything else :P01:18
DarkAceXtremebecause thanks Microsoft01:18
MrMadManIE build the iso / img then boot right to it01:18
MrMadManthen use ubiqity to intall01:18
MrMadManor something like that01:19
angel_MrMadMan, i don't understand you01:19
mahem1_Hey all, so I am having this wierd issue with kWin key bindings using the  "Global Keyboard Shortcuts" app. Is this the right place to ask?01:19
ObrienDaveremastersys is dead. look into relinux01:19
TJ-jay_: It seems that the fbdev driver is being loaded in preference to the intel driver01:19
MrMadManObrienDave, just was a example there was better ones lol01:20
angel_how can i boot a tablet with a live usb?01:20
ObrienDaveMrMadMan, yes, i know :)01:20
MrMadManObrienDave, I am more a fan of buildroot01:20
jay_TJ-: I see.... can I specify preference somewhere?01:20
ObrienDaveMrMadMan, been looking at that. interesting01:21
MrMadManor yocto is also nice ObrienDave01:21
MrMadManObrienDave,  there is also spindle but that is just scripts that are for the pi.  But could alter real easy01:22
MrMadManObrienDave, https://github.com/asb/spindle << spindle01:23
ObrienDaveMrMadMan, thanks01:23
TJ-jay_: It is auto-determined. The only clue I see is "vesa: Ignoring device with a bound kernel driver" ... can you pastebin "sudo lspci -nnvvvk" ?01:23
angel_how can i boot a tablet with a live usb?01:24
jay_TJ-: http://pastebin.com/qRL50CkK01:24
happyfr0ggHello! I am using Xchat in Ubuntu Precise. In the channel list area I see the various channels listed in orange, white, and red. What does this mean?01:26
TJ-jay_: strange, the kernel is using the i915 driver... not sure why the fbdev driver is being used by the X server. it could be the libdrm mismatch I mentioned.01:28
angel_hi .how can i boot a tablet with a live usb?01:28
MrMadManangel_,  I told you you just need to do the research01:28
happyfr0ggangel01:28
angel_MrMadMan, can you help me understand what you said?01:29
TJ-angel_: I think you should give up unless you are a Linux hacker. From what I've just read, it is all but impossible to get an input device to work even if the tablet boots from a Live USB since there is no way to interact with the installer01:29
MrMadManangel_, I can not guide you on how to make a OS but other apps can along with youtube and google.  It would just take to long and flood the channel01:30
tdannecyangel_: You should check out the XDA forums to see if there's an Ubuntu rom that's built for your tablet. Depending on your model, it could be a very difficult process.01:30
MrMadMantdannecy,  it is a i501:30
MrMadMannot arm01:30
angel_MrMadMan, i don't think thats what i need.01:30
tdannecyMrMadMan: I don't understand your message.01:31
angel_TJ-, thats sounds bad is there no other option?01:31
angel_tdannecy, let me google xda01:31
MrMadManangel_,  well then wait and get a usbhub.  as that would help or spin up a distro with a user and DM that you can loginto with out a keyboard01:31
jay_TJ-: So what should I do? libgl1-mesa-dri, libgl1-mesa-glx, and libglapi-mesa all have available updates01:32
MrMadManangel_,  I suggest maiilit or onboard so that you can use with no keyboard to install01:32
jay_TJ-: Though I think that caused issues last time because it broke compatability with other stuff cause the updates come from the x-updates PPA01:33
angel_MrMadMan, are those live usb creators?01:33
MrMadManif you spin up your own distro so that there is a user and what not that you can sign in and install via ubiqity << spelling is wrong01:33
ObrienDaveangel_, http://forum.xda-developers.com/ find your tablet model and carrier in the forums01:33
TJ-jay_: I'm not sure, I tend to keep the X server packages in sync so don't hit those kinds of issues.01:34
jay_TJ-: How do I do that lol01:34
MrMadManangel_,  no I am saying that you make a OS of Ubuntu via virtual box clone it / make a loader and that has a user and also has some tools installed then... use DD and also sync to a usb and boot it stright to the OS. IE no installer.  Something that is set up already .01:35
jay_TJ-: I suppose I should also mention on on 12.0401:35
TJ-jay_: Don't use bleeding-edge PPAs , just use the main archives or the HardWare Enablement stacks01:35
jay_TJ-: So should I purge the xorg ppa and just reinstall desktop or something?01:35
TJ-angel_: to create the bootable installer USB image, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick01:36
angel_TJ-, i already have that01:36
angel_i used unetbootin01:36
angel_but when i boot it stays on the unetbootin options01:37
MrMadManangel_,  or you can use many different tools that are out there to clone the OS (the one that is in the VM ) then use all that to make a img or so or whatever and just load stright to the OS.  BUT and this is a big but.  you have to make sure that there is no hard core dependences  on the bootloader01:37
TJ-jay_: That would be my preference, but you might shed more tears getting back to a sane dependency state... and in the interim learn how to use the console :)01:37
TJ-angel_: OK, so what happens when you configure the P3 to boot from USB, with the USB device plugged in?01:37
superdave321Would anyone help me decode this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7851138/01:37
MrMadManTJ-,  her ( angel_  ) only has one usb port so no keyboard01:37
MrMadManor his *01:38
angel_TJ-, it boots to unetbootin options then stays there01:38
rocko2_is it true you can't use skype on 64 bit ubuntu?01:38
TJ-angel_: Have you tried booting another PC from that USB device? Does it do the same thing? Of so, sounds like the creation process went wrong, so redo it and test it again01:38
jay_TJ-: Alright....well what's the easiest solution here? Not counting reinstalling Ubuntu01:38
arultotally untrue01:39
MrMadManangel_,  tried to cp iso to usb then exstract it then run sync so it boots with out unetbootin ?01:39
aruljust skyping on 64bit ubuntu :)01:39
TJ-jay_: I'd purge the PPAs and their packages and try to get a sane 12.04 configuration first01:39
jay_TJ-: Also why would there be dependency issues? After sudo apt-get reeinstall ubuntu-desktop and then just update stuff?01:39
MrMadManangel_,  but no to less you are going to need a virtual keyboard to install (users enter keys ect )01:40
tdannecysuperdave321: I can take a crack at it. Can I PM you?01:40
MrMadMannone to less *01:40
TJ-jay_: If any PPA package get left behind after the purge, downgrade of packages to satisfy dependencies of the 'stock' package version might break01:40
superdave321tdannecy sure! thanks01:40
TJ-angel_: This thread seems to indicate that some P3 users have had success. Have you tried posting a question there asking how they did it? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219582801:42
jay_TJ-: So when trying to purge x-updates I get E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)01:43
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TJ-jay_: another package manager is running01:43
MrMadManTJ-,  again his/her/whatever doen not have a KEYBOARD to hook into if the USB is taken with install media01:43
MrMadManTJ-,  "angel" is whom i and talking about01:44
TJ-MrMadMan: I *am* aware of that... however, at least one user reports booting 14.04 live on that device and the only thing not working was sound, but that then worked subsequently.01:44
n1ck0good evening, anyone awake?01:45
n1ck0need a bit of help with a network applet01:45
jay_TJ-: http://pastebin.com/EnpDji8B01:45
jay_seemed to change a lot01:45
jay_I'll reboot and report back01:45
TJ-angel_: MrMadMan: My expectation would be that as the keyboards are Bluetooth, as long as the installer auto-starts from the boot-manager, it'll auto-connect to a/the BT keyboard01:45
MrMadManTJ-,  good point about the BT I did not know that there was one in the playing field01:46
TJ-angel_: The key thing would be to choose the "Try Ubuntu" option to load the live environment, then install using the "Install Ubuntu" icon on the desktop01:47
meganerdTJ-: it depends on the BTB keyboards and the implementation.  On my system the bluetooth keyboard is not available until the login screen01:47
TJ-MrMadMan: From what I read, that device has 2 BT keyboards. One is some kind of slip-on cover which doesn't initially pair since the default pass-code is wrong - the thread I gave details how to fix that though01:47
MrMadManmeganerd, upstart/systemd01:47
MrMadManTJ-,  I see says the blind man01:48
meganerdMrMadMan: there is no systemd yet01:48
TJ-meganerd: That would be fine, the "Try Ubuntu" option does auto-login to the 'ubuntu' user01:48
snowrichardflashplugin installer is hanging at the download01:49
meganerdTJ-: I have a logitech k810 that periodically needs repairing.  I am not a fan of BT only keyboards.01:49
meganerdTJ-: it *should* work, I just have extensive experiences of it not working :)01:49
Brad___hi all, so my goal is to get a job relating to network administration what degrees should i try to get for this field?01:49
somsipBrad___: finding the correct IRC channel to ask this question is your first task01:50
TJ-meganerd: The user(s) with the same Aspire P3 as angel_ report it does, so there is hope :)01:50
meganerdBrad___: wrong channel.  At a start the Cisco courses are where I would look.  If you want to play around first, have a look at lartc.org01:50
jay_TJ-: No luck :(01:50
TJ-Brad___: try ##networking01:51
TJ-jay_: :(01:51
TJ-jay_: Are all the packages plain ole 12.04 now? What is the X org log showing, the same error?01:51
meganerdBrad___: wrong channel.  At a start the Cisco courses are where I would look.  If you want to play around first, have a look at lartc.org01:51
Brad___i had no idea these channels existed, this was the only channel i knew of when i need help with my server, thanks guys!01:51
jay_TJ-: Yeah same error it looks like01:51
jay_TJ-: How do I check if they're all standard 12.04 packages?01:53
TJ-jay_: You don't have "nomodeset" on the kernel command-line, do you ("cat /proc/cmdline") ?01:53
TJ-jay_: if you've removed all the PPAs and those packages downgraded I'd think they should be the 12.04 archive packages01:53
jay_TJ-: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-32-generic root=UUID=af30df8b-eabe-4a2b-99f6-32bc2e4aa914 ro acpi_backlight=vendor01:53
TJ-jay_: So, do you have the Xserver HWE packages installed, it looks as if you have the HWE linux kernel packages from Trusty01:56
jay_TJ-: What packages are those?01:56
TJ-jay_: I *think* they are  "linux-generic-lts-trusty" and "xserver-xorg-lts-trusty" and  "libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-trusty" plus their 'recommends'01:58
jay_TJ-: Don't I want precise if I'm on 12.04?01:58
TJ-jay_: as in "sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-trusty xserver-xorg-lts-trusty libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-trusty"01:58
TJ-jay_: Your Xorg log shows the system is on kernel 3.13, which is from Trusty, which suggests you have installed either a custom kernel or the Trusty HWE01:59
TJ-jay_: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack01:59
agliodbshey, I just launched a precise64 Vagrant VM, and got a warning about the HWE going EOL.  I'm concerned about this because I'm preparing the VM for a class, and I don't want all of the students to see a critical warning when they log in.  Is this some kind of side effect of having a host machine on a later version of Ubunut?02:00
agliodbsUbuntu that is02:00
jay_TJ-: So that sounds like I screwed up then? This all started when I updated my hardware stack this morning02:00
freshairhey all, how are we?02:01
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TJ-jay_: did you use the command I just showed to update the hardware stack?02:03
jay_TJ-: No, should I do that even though I'm running 12.04?02:03
TJ-The HWE *is* for 12.04, that's the point of it02:04
usuario:)02:05
TJ-jay_: The HWE brings more modern hardware support to an older LTS release (12.04) by packaging the latest release's kernel and X server packages specifically for 12.04, and continuing to provide support for that 12.04.5 stack until the end of the 12.04 LTS support period02:05
meganerdagliodbs: you should not need the HWE stack in a VM02:06
jay_TJ-: Ah I see, just ran that. Rebooting now02:06
coventryIs there any way to play quicktime movies on ubuntu?  I'm getting "VLC does not support the audio or video format "twos".  Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this.02:06
freshairDoes anyone know if there is a up to date repo of the linux-ck kernel patch for Ubuntu?02:06
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meganerdfreshair: what is it that you want to do?02:06
meganerdfreshair: I thought that Con's work is all upstream now?02:06
agliodbsmeganerd: yeah, I'm more concerned about disabling the warning.  It will confuse my students.02:07
freshairmeganerd: Does that mean it is not being updated?02:07
meganerdfreshair: that means that it is no longer a separate thing.02:07
jay_TJ-: You. Are. Awesome.02:07
freshairmeganerd: so, I just need to apply the latest 3.15/6 linux kernel>02:08
meganerdfreshair: it would help to know what you want those patches to do?02:08
TJ-jay_: It worked?02:08
jay_TJ-: Yeah it appears so!02:08
jay_TJ-: One quick thing though02:08
freshairmeganerd: I have an old system and am looking to try and squeeze out a bit more from the scheduler etc since I've heard it can help02:08
TJ-jay_: ... and 8 hours later... :p02:09
meganerdagliodbs: I don't have any 12.04 VMs anymore, so I am not sure why you are getting that error.   Is your base VM using the 12.10 HWE?02:09
freshairCurrently on the -pk 3.15 kernel but it fails to shutdown properly at times02:09
jay_TJ-: Earlier I tried to backup my compiz settings, and when I reapplied them shit got screwed up. My old background is still there on my lockscreen but not when I log in. Does that mean my old settings are still there somewhere or are the lockscreen and desktop controlled differently?02:09
jay_TJ-: :D02:09
meganerdfreshair: just use the regular kernel, you are not going to see any perceptible difference02:09
agliodbsmeganerd: no, it's the ubuntu/precise64 box from virtualbox.  Supposedly created by Canonical.  I suspect it's running the 12.04.2 HWE02:09
TJ-agliodbs: I'd think the warning is coming from the motd scripts. Check in "/etc/update-motd.d/" and disable it if you really need to02:09
agliodbsTJ-: thanks.02:10
meganerdagliodbs: HWEs are *for* 12.04, they bring newer kernels and X drivers to the older LTS release02:10
freshairmeganerd: what version of the kernel is on the stock Ubuntu 14.04?02:10
TJ-jay_: As I recall the greeter background setting is kept separately, but although I once knew where to find it for lightdm, I have forgotten now :)02:10
meganerdfreshair: 3.1302:10
freshairCheerio, I shall try installing 3.15 official kernel maybe?02:10
TJ-agliodbs: The HWEs aren't recommended for VM guests though so you should'nt really need/have them at all02:11
jay_TJ-: Not a problem. I'm just happy to have things behaving normally again :)02:11
meganerdfreshair: you might want to change out your DE for something simplier if performance is a problem.  How old of a system are we talking about?02:11
jay_TJ-: Thanks so much for all the help man. Seriously I've been at this ALL day02:11
freshair2008 C2D laptop02:11
TJ-jay_: I know what it is like, glad you're sorted :)02:11
meganerdfreshair: so like a core2duo?02:11
agliodbsTJ-: OK, I'll see if I can disable it in motd02:11
freshairmeganerd: honestly, it's just an excercise to try and tinker around02:11
agliodbsotherwise I'll be back here tommorrow ...02:11
freshairmeganerd: yep02:11
meganerdagliodbs: just remove the HWE packages02:12
newbie18I am new to the pxe with preseed, which option will automatically set hostname as the one queried from dns/dhcp? right now it stops waiting a press "enter " to go ahead02:12
agliodbsmeganerd: oh, that's an even better idea.  I'll also confirm the box owner and try to get them to fix the box.02:12
agliodbslater02:12
meganerdfreshair: I have a core2duo kicking around that works great, though I have 8 GB of RAM in it.  RAM and an SSD are going to breath new life into that system, regardless of the OS02:13
TJ-freshair: I second what meganerd recommends :)02:13
freshairIndeed. Thanks mate. Back to normal kernel - saves me time I guess :-)02:13
freshairI am just so used to trying out kernels for the android phone you know?02:14
freshairIt02:14
freshair*It's a bad habit carried over I guess02:15
* TJ- hides the v3.16-rc6-utopic mainline kernel he's just installed :p02:15
meganerdfreshair: if you really want to mess around with a low latency kernel (mostly used by us "pro" audio guys, there are packages that you can get from here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/02:16
newbie18hey guys, help me please ^^^02:16
meganerdTJ-: right with ya TJ02:16
freshairmeganerd: Thanks matey. I might try 2.6.15 first ;-)    [just joking]02:16
Matriks404try 0.0102:16
meganerdMatriks404: it probably won't boot02:17
Matriks404meganerd: yeah, I know :D02:17
meganerdfreshair: you can try it, just don't expect a lot of support :)  You should be able to choose an older kernel from the grub boot menu if things mess uop02:18
meganerdfreshair: I used to be a kernel junkie (especially the low latency patches for low latency audio mixing), at least until the kids showed up02:18
freshairmeganerd: I can understand. Now you get to tinker with their behaviour so to speak02:19
freshairsilly questions, what is the theoretical difference between mainline vs stable?02:22
TJ-freshair: mainline is the active master HEAD development branch, stable is a full release possibly with backported bug fixes02:23
freshairLovely! Perhaps that's why android OS is behind in their kernel versions02:24
meganerdfreshair: android is behind due to their development cycle and project management02:24
meganerdfreshair: just look at cyanogen's stuff02:25
freshairBut I imagine the devices wouldn;t benefit much from the newer versions would they?02:25
meganerdfreshair: probably not noticeably02:25
TJ-freshair: Mostly it's because Android kernel is still a fork of mainline, and also so many drivers are out-of-tree or rely on userspace binary blobs so they fix on one version and then have to stick with it02:25
freshairah but security might be an issue right?02:25
meganerdfreshair: security is often backported, even to old 2.4 kernels IIRC.02:26
freshairthat's good to know02:26
TJ-freshair: the delta is getting much smaller now as mainline incorporates Android concepts, if not their original implementations02:26
meganerdfreshair: of course there is no guarantee that Android does that.  I both love and hate Google02:26
freshairwell, it could be worse right?02:27
meganerdfreshair: it could always be worse.02:27
meganerdanyway, gotta run.  Best of luck with your kernel adventures.02:27
freshairthanks, have a good one02:28
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lnx_usrHi! When 12.04 to 14.4 release will be available?02:28
gunarmtj02:30
TJ-lnx_usr: it should be available now, release date for 14.04.1 was 24th02:30
gunarmoops sorry still had that on my buffer;p02:30
lnx_usrTJ-: No new release found02:32
TJ-lnx_usr: was that "do-releae-upgrade" ?02:33
lnx_usryes02:33
TJ-lnx_usr: Have you upgraded all packages recently to ensure d-r-u is the latest?02:33
lnx_usrAll softaware up to date02:35
gunarmTJ-, after installing the HWE and rebooting, the network card works, but everything is in low resolution, I did "sudo apt-get install" and it says nvidia-settings and screen-resolution-extra are no longer required.  Any thoughts on that one?02:35
TJ-gunarm: Hmmm, I wonder if you need a newer nvidia binary driver package?02:37
wheatthinI'm not sure about that. No longer required..  are you using nvidia-updates ?02:42
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ramza099hello i need help02:50
ramza099i try boot from live cd and i get flickering screen when i try install02:51
linux__server irc.oltreirc.net02:52
Bashing-omALL: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.announce/186 <- 14.04.1 released; should be hitting the mirrors right soon now !02:54
t2mknecho "1782 0003" > /sys/bus/usb-serial/drivers/option1/new_id it creates ttyUSB0 how can I change it to ttyUSB_lct_modem ?02:56
gunarmTJ-, just fyi, installing the binary drivers fixed it and everything works great now.  thanks for the help02:58
TJ-Bashing-om: what is weird is packages.ubuntu.com shows the latest version in precise-updates of "update-manager-core" is 1:0.156.14.15, yet my 12.04 servers have  1:0.156.14.16 from precise-proposed, and that "/var/lib/update-manager/meta-release-lts" doesn't list trusty02:58
TJ-gunarm: glad to hear it :)02:59
Nimblet2mkn, https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/66901/how-to-bind-usb-device-under-a-static-name03:00
zykotick9gunarm: (my opinion only) but, to bad you had to "break" your entire install, just to get graphics working... best of luck with the next kernel update (you might need it)03:01
t2mknNimble: just what i was looking for :) thanks.03:03
Nimblenp, I work a lot with serial devices and I know they can be a pain :)03:04
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rocko2_is it true that skype doesn't work on ubuntu 64?03:19
Nimblerocko2_, if skype is only compiled for 32 bit then you can install the appropriate 32 bit libraries and it should run03:23
Nimbleso theoretically it should03:23
somsiprocko2_: works fine here03:23
rocko2_your using ubuntu 64bit?03:24
IvanPaesrocko2_,  I am using skype on ubuntu 14.04 64-bit version.03:25
makudesuhello03:26
IvanPaesInstalled by the control programs. :)03:26
somsiprocko2_: yep03:26
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makudesucan i ask a quextion03:27
somsipmakudesu: go ahead03:27
makudesuping ghartz03:27
makudesudfa03:27
makudesuanyone03:27
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somsipmakudesu: so - your question is?03:28
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makudesuwhat is the difference between using /etc/network/interfacve and wpa)supplicasnt03:28
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GZA-Geniusforgive me I am still learning and HP does not have much documentation for SW and tools unless your running RH or SUSE, I am getting a error on line 38 when starting this init.d script can someone help me out... http://paste.debian.net/111557/03:30
happyfr0ggI need help in resolving unmet dependencies. I am trying to install the latest HWE.03:37
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marcuspbairdhi all03:40
marcuspbairdon ubuntu 14.04 how do I upgrade to 14.04.103:40
marcuspbairdor is it done already03:40
happyfr0ggI was trying to install 12.04.5 HWE (Trusty kernel/graphics) but ran into unmet dependencies.  How do I resolve these unmet dependencies??03:41
Bashing-ommarcuspbaird: if you are fully updated, what returns from terminal command -> lsb_release -a <- ?03:41
marcuspbairdI installed it yesterday03:42
marcuspbairdso should it already be at the latest version03:42
Bashing-ommarcuspbaird: Fresh install, run -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade , sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ... should then have 14.01.1.03:43
marcuspbairdok thanks03:44
marcuspbairdso sudo apt dist upgrade03:44
rwwno.03:44
marcuspbairdI haven't used unity for a bit so just need to figure it out again03:46
Bashing-ommarcuspbaird: Yeah but that command has nothing to do with a release upgrade .. just is apt-get's smart mode in package management. (will install the latest kernel)03:46
marcuspbairdok nods03:46
happyfr0ggmarcuspbaird - run those commands in the order that Bashing-om described.03:46
marcuspbairdam now03:46
rocko2_how do I use virtual machines on ubuntu?03:46
marcuspbairdthanks03:47
marcuspbairdvirtual box rocko03:47
happyfr0ggmarcuspbaird - you're welcome.03:47
marcuspbairdshould be in the software centure03:47
marcuspbairdcenter03:47
rocko2_virtualbox doesn't work03:48
marcuspbairdit should work03:48
marcuspbairdwhat are u trying to install in it03:48
rocko2_I will pastebin the error marcuspbaird03:48
marcuspbairdthats prob over my head03:49
marcuspbairdI norm find its just setting the distro to the wrong one03:49
marcuspbairdor trying to get a 64 bit on a 32 bit machine03:49
happyfr0ggrocko2 - try this link --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualMachines03:49
Bashing-ommarcuspbaird: Not necessasarily be available in USC ,, see : http://lwn.net/Articles/563966/ .03:50
marcuspbairdok thanks03:50
marcuspbairdI be off all the trolls see me03:50
marcuspbairdor03:50
marcuspbairdlol03:50
happyfr0gg I was trying to install 12.04.5 HWE (Trusty kernel/graphics) but ran into unmet dependencies.  How do I resolve these unmet dependencies??03:51
marcuspbairdnot related but I bought Sid Meier’s Colonization.03:51
marcuspbairda while back and noticed linux has it now will steam just port it over03:52
teaearlgraycoldIs it a bad idea to upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04.1? Should I wipe the machine and do it fresh?03:57
Bashing-omhappyfr0gg: Have you run update/upgrade, got the errors as the package manager sees them, maybe try and install the dependency(s).03:59
happyfr0ggteaearlgraycold - to answer both of your questions, no.04:00
teaearlgraycoldhappyfr0gg, I don't really have anywhere to upgrade the machine to - as it is my upgrade box atm04:01
teaearlgraycoldsorry04:01
Bashing-omteaearlgraycold: If you revert the current install to as close to default as possible- disable any svreen saver - , update the system; should be no problem updating from 12.04 .04:01
teaearlgraycoldI mean backup as it's my backup box04:01
teaearlgraycoldBashing-om, it's ubuntu server04:02
teaearlgraycoldCould dependencies break for services?04:03
happyfr0ggBashing-om - will upgrading my system via the terminal only upgrade the HWE or the entire system to 14.04+?04:03
Ben64happyfr0gg: depends what you type04:04
teaearlgraycoldWell I guess I'll just go yolo04:04
rocko2_I think I am infected04:04
rocko2_is there viruses for ubuntu?04:04
teaearlgraycoldrocko2_, it's possible...04:04
rwwubottu: virus04:05
ubottuAntivirus is something you don't need on !Linux. except where files are then passed to Windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus04:05
Ben64rocko2_: extremely unlikely. what makes you think you're infected?04:05
Bashing-omhappyfr0gg: You can do either HWE update, or release upgrade to 14.04.1 .04:05
Ozera||Does anyone know how to fix the Google Talk plugin crash for Chrome users on Ubuntu 12.04 ?04:05
Bashing-omhappyfr0gg: BUT, as you know, before doing anything, those faults in the package management system need to be addressed .04:07
gypsyhey guys04:08
iampozhi guys, I am having a problem finding where I installed an application04:11
iampozits call minitube, I installed it from source04:11
Beldariampoz, It's in the ubuntu repos, why from source?04:12
iampozrepos is not latest version04:13
iampozto many bugs in the repos versions04:13
Beldariampoz, Technically that would be 3rd party and not supported here.04:13
jellowiampoz, can you run from terminal;  whereis minitube04:13
iampozthanks Jellow!04:14
Ozera||Does anyone have a fix for google-tal plugin crash for ubuntu 12.04 ?04:14
tonytOzera|| not that my question has anything to do with your question but im cusios, why are you still running 12.04?04:15
Ozera||tonyt, I haven't upgraded. I really want to get Windows on this machine, but I ran into a problem with the windows installer. I am missing some media drivers, but it won't tell me which ones04:16
Ozera||It's like i'm stuck with this fucking machine04:17
tonytoh ok. i would assume the windows install image your using would contain the drivers you need04:17
tonythear ya . sucks04:18
Ozera||Maybe its a bad windows iso? I'm not sure04:18
Ozera||I tried updating my machine to see if it download said media drivers...but it only created more problems like this google-talk plugin crash04:19
Ben64Ozera||: ##windows if you need help installing windows04:20
_gypsy_can i play wow on ubuntu?04:23
Ben64_gypsy_: probably with wine04:23
_gypsy_legit04:24
aural_I need help to recover xorg-x11 desktop without killing/restarting X. I pushed ctrl+alt+f1 and then returned to X with ctrl+alt+f8. I've done this before, but now it is showing black/blank screen. I think the reason may be because this computer is configured to display the desktop on four monitors (2x2) but at this time I only have one monitor connected. I have a known working/functional desktop with the one monitor right now (prior to l04:25
aural_I am using XFCE.04:26
Ben64aural_: usually x would be on f7, not f804:26
aural_Ben64: I know, however, my computer it displays with F8.04:27
Ozera||Does anyone know where I can find older google-talk plugin versions?04:28
aural_Maybe I can try adjusting the resolution? What is a command line tool that can be used to set the resolution?04:29
rwwxrandr, I believe04:30
anuvrathi I just installed ubuntu 14. Nexus 5 is not getting detected. please help04:30
Beldaranuvrat, What android release is it running?04:34
rocko2_how do I add myself to a group?04:34
anuvrat4.4.404:34
ldrancerhey04:35
ldrancerwhy do you morons think you can do anything on a computer?04:35
rocko2_ldlework troll alert!04:36
Beldaranuvrat, Should work, do have the usb debug on?04:36
rocko2_!ops04:36
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ldleworkhahaha why would you highlight me?04:36
ldleworkI'd like an answer to his question, in fact.04:37
ldlework;)04:37
ldrancerim going to make girls, food.04:37
ldrancerthere rights and totally doable am i rights or whats?04:37
ldranceri heard this on the internets04:37
rwwldrancer: Do you have an Ubuntu support question? If not, please take the chatter elsewhere.04:37
ldrancerrights be beezings right?  and do thigns on comptuer is what i heard you can do with bitcoin04:37
ldrancerSTFU FAGGOT IM ON A CPU04:37
Beldaranuvrat, http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/11/10/enable-developer-options-nexus-5-kitkat/  for the usb debug option04:41
Beldarrocko2_ Helps if you state why and what group.04:41
rocko2_I get this error when I try and run virt-manager http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=kwmRh7L8 Beldar04:44
kanhiayhi, all, I have windows xp 32 bit on virtual guest, and  i want to send print command to linux printer which is working flawlessly04:45
Beldarrocko2_, Not sure myself, others might know, try to give related details is all.04:45
whoeverkanhiay: are you using cups04:45
kanhiayi don;t know, whoever04:46
rocko2_it works when I use sudo virt-manager Beldar04:46
whoeverkanhiay: is it a network or loacal printer04:46
rocko2_but then it uses / paritition instead of home parition which I don't want it to do Beldar04:46
kanhiaywhoever: it is local printer but likely to be shared on network in future, i am new to linux and i am learning04:46
Ben64rocko2_: sounds like you need to add yourself to the 'libvirtd' group04:46
Beldarrocko2_, As I said not sure myself, note getting an answer to give more info does not mean help other that to give more info for help.04:47
whoeverkanhiay: so you want to print to th printer from your xp guest ?04:47
kanhiaywhoever: i installed hp-lip gui and installed printer using hp-lip04:47
kanhiaywhoever: yes,04:47
rocko2_I checked the groups I belong to and it says I am already a member Ben6404:47
kanhiayexactly, because i have a software which is not working in Linux, i also tried wine, but it is not working04:47
whoeverkanhiay:  in the settings , you need to share it  under devices, if not  you need to configure it in cups04:48
kanhiaywhoever: on wine, it installs without any problem, but doesn't start at all04:48
whoeverkanhiay: you don't need wine04:48
kanhiaywhoever: is it possible to share same printer in linux and virtual xp, without much hurdle04:49
whoever in xp   go to add printer and browse , do you see it there04:49
whoeverkanhiay: yes04:49
whoeverkanhiay: i have done simler before but it was between two native boxes linux with the local printer, and windows printed to it04:50
kanhiaywhoever: then it will not be available in linux at the same time, am i right ?04:51
_gypsy_what flashplayer works for chrome04:51
_gypsy_adobe*04:51
kanhiaywhoever: what to do, when i want to share the same printer on network04:51
whoeverkanhiay: wrong cups has a print que04:51
kanhiay_gypsy_: chrome need not a flashplayer, it has a built in player to play flash04:52
kanhiaywhoever: thanks, how to know cups has been installed or not04:52
whoeverkanhiay: you will just navigate to the printer  in network04:52
_gypsy_whenever i try to play a video on facebook it says i need adobe flashplayer04:52
_gypsy_kanhiay,04:52
kanhiaywhoever: and how to make it active04:52
kanhiaywhoever: thanks a lot04:53
kostkon!info pepperflashplugin-nonfree | _gypsy_, chrome or chromium? if you mean chromium, then this package04:53
whoeveryou may also need samba for this to work I haven't done it without samba because i was always running a file share04:53
ubottu_gypsy_, chrome or chromium? if you mean chromium, then this package: pepperflashplugin-nonfree (source: pepperflashplugin-nonfree): Pepper Flash Player - browser plugin. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.3ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 9 kB, installed size 65 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)04:53
_gypsy_yes chromium04:53
whoeverkanhiay: so whan your browse your network, from the guest do you see th printer04:53
kostkon_gypsy_, then install the above package and restart chromium04:54
whoeverhint it will probably be inside your ubuntu hose node04:54
_gypsy_i will try thanks04:54
whoeverkanhiay: if you setup samba , you don't realy need to wory about the file share part04:55
whoeverkanhiay: do you have samba set up04:55
whoeveror installed04:55
kanhiaywhoever: i am going to install samba, from ubuntu04:55
kanhiaysoftware centre04:55
whoeverok04:55
whoeverit should make it so you can at least find the printer from network04:56
whoeveralso make sure your guest and host are on the same sub net or you will create more  problms for yourself04:56
whoeverkanhiay: are you in the US04:57
kanhiaywhoever: no i am from INdia04:57
whoeverkanhiay: ok, fyi  its almost midnight here , and i'm gonna head to bed soon, so if i disappear just pm me and ill get back to you04:58
anuvratUpon plugging my nexus 5 to a freshly installed ubuntu 14 I am getting Unable to open MTP device '[usb:001,035]' error04:58
whoeverso setup samba, which in your case to get it working all you will need to do in install and start the deamond04:59
kanhiaywhoever: no thanks dear, i am not going to be a nightmare for you, have sweet dreams05:00
whoeverand you should beable to find the printer for xp browse network to add it05:00
whoeverkanhiay: I'm sure you won't but just letting you know some of the things I ran into when setting it up05:01
whoeverKanttori: it can be a real pain going the other way(print to windows printer from linux )05:01
_gypsy_kanhiay thanks man it worked perf05:02
sec_how downgrade gdb?05:02
Lost_x_out!seen ObrienDave05:06
ubottuI have no seen command05:06
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anuvrathi, I am unable to see my nexus 5 in the output of lsusb when I plug it in. Nor is it getting mounted.05:08
Beldaranuvrat, Did you see my responses?05:09
Lost_xhi beldar05:09
anuvratBeldar, Hi05:10
anuvratI did.05:10
ryankrizanDoes anyone know how to get workspaces to work with Gnome-shell on Ubuntu 14.04? Gnome does not create new workspaces in the dock like it should. Only shows the 1 main workspace.05:10
Beldaranuvrat, And, might it help to answer? This should plug and play is all.05:10
anuvratBeldar, I don't think I need to have the developer options on in order to have it get mounted as a media device ... do I?05:11
Lost_xBeldar: sir, we have this problem yesterday installing ubuntu14.04lts 64bit. the machine have a previous os windows7 32bit. the machine is uefi enabled 64bit. we can not see the alongside isntallation option of the installer.05:11
anuvratBeldar, It works perfectly on another machine running ubuntu 13.1005:11
Beldaranuvrat, Does not hurt to check, with oem installs one never knows.05:12
Nimbleit should just work without developer options05:12
Nimbleis your USB cable good?05:12
Nimbledoes your phone charge when it gets plugged in?05:12
anuvratNimble, yes and yes05:12
Lost_xBeldar: now that i use the disk management of windows to delete the volumes that we created yesterday and just make it into volume in ntfs format05:13
Nimbleah, mtp errors05:13
Nimblewonderful05:13
anuvratNimble, same cable same phone works on ubuntu 13.10 but does not on 1405:13
Lost_xBeldar: now, the "install alongside windows" option of the installer appears05:13
NimbleI had a similar problem with my phone on 12.04 that got fixed in a later update05:13
meganerdanuvrat: do you have mtp-tools installed?05:13
anuvratmeganerd, yes found it in one of the search results ... installed it ...05:14
RockyExHi there all, I'm running Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS 8 core 14GB ram virtual server. It is running some heavy processes like schedule jobs05:15
RockyExI'm getting: kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt05:15
anuvratmeganerd, Nimble, Beldar  dmesg goes into an infinite loop printing https://dpaste.de/JUCu05:15
RockyExtime to time05:15
RockyExWhat is the issue05:16
anuvratmeganerd, Nimble, Beldar it says unable to open mtp device ...05:16
Nimblehow bizarre05:17
anuvratand nexus 5 is also not visible in lsusb05:17
Nimbleit does that after plugging it in?05:17
meganerdanuvrat: can you run mtp-detect from the command line?05:17
anuvratmeganerd, https://dpaste.de/Xqyy05:18
meganerdanuvrat: that is all I have.  Gotta get to bed.  FWIW I got tired of the MTP dance when USB mass storage went away.  I just use sftp or dropbox to get files onto my phone05:19
meganerdanuvrat: mtp and I have a long unhappy history05:19
anuvratit tried to open nautilus but came down with the following error message dialogs https://dpaste.de/DUTW05:19
gr33n7007hsup!05:19
ObrienDaveLost_x, how's it going?05:20
Nimbleanuvrat, as a workaround you might try using jmtpfs05:20
gr33n7007hG3t a r3aL 0S05:21
anuvratmtp-detect threw this error this time Unable to open ~/.mtpz-data for reading, MTPZ disabled.libmtp version: 1.1.605:21
Lost_xObrienDave: i deleted the volume that was created yesterday using the windows disk management utility05:22
ObrienDaveLost_x, ok, so where are we now with this install?05:22
Lost_xwhen i restarted to boot the ubuntu installer, there is this new option - Install ubuntu inside windows705:22
Lost_xback in windows05:23
ObrienDaveLost_x, inside???05:23
greylurkHas anyone done an ext4->btrfs migration on their root partition?  Is it worth it, or should I just backup /home, reformat and reinstall?05:23
Lost_xObrienDave: are we going to start from zero?05:23
Lost_xi can reinstall windows again05:23
ObrienDaveLost_x, don't understand the "inside"05:24
Lost_xang make new partitions05:24
pdevineapt-get dist-upgrade just blew chunks for me on the new linux-image-3.13.0-32-generic kernel05:25
Lost_xObrienDave: when i chose that option it just reastrated back to windows05:25
Lost_xObrienDave: maybe that will be the wubi type installation05:25
pdevineanyone else seeing a problem?05:25
meganerdgreylurk:05:26
meganerdgreylurk: I would do a clean install with btrfs on /05:26
LostNvaare you installing linux into virtualbox in windows.....trying to understand, curious05:26
Lost_xi will reinstallt the window05:26
ObrienDaveLost_x, let's boot the DVD and see05:26
ObrienDaveLost_x, please, no wubi. lol05:27
meganerdgreylurk: I am not sure if the conversion will do nifty things like having / and /home on different subvolumes (which allows independent snapshotting)05:27
Lost_xok05:27
ObrienDaveLost_x, let me know when you get to the "where to install"05:27
greylurkActually, I've got /home on a separate ext4 partition right now (backup would just be for double-safety)05:28
greylurkBut I'll take your word that there might be other "nifty" things that the clean install would do.05:28
meganerdgreylurk: it can be handy to have them on the same partition, but different subvolumes05:28
Lost_xok dave05:28
Lost_xObrienDave: we are using the 64bit installer of ubuntu05:29
greylurkI like having them on different partitions, just because it makes it relatively easy to switch linux distros if I want.05:29
ObrienDaveLost_x, yes05:29
Lost_xthe machine is 64bit, the windows7 is 32bit,05:29
greylurkEven when I get a new ubuntu release, I just reformat root, mount /home in it's correct spot, and I've got a clean install.05:30
ObrienDaveLost_x, that's fine05:30
meganerdgreylurk: that is fine, but no other distro uses btrfs this way, so if you really want btrfs on root then it is a non-portable solution anyway05:30
meganerdgreylurk: it is doable but there are extra streps05:30
meganerdgreylurk: I guess what I am saying is that just having / as btrfs is kind of pointless.05:31
meganerdgreylurk: in that use case it is just a filesystem, though you do get per block checksumming.  THe clean install makes things like apt-btrfs-snapshot work05:32
meganerdgreylurk: if this is your only real machine, I would put Ubuntu in a VM with btrfs, and then play with the btrfs features there.05:33
ObrienDaveLost_x, please go straight into install. i want to do the partitions in the installer05:35
santhoshhai05:35
Lost_xObrienDave: brb, boss is calling05:36
ObrienDavek05:37
greylurkmeganerd: What does the @home subvolume buy you over having home on a separate partition?05:37
meganerdgreylurk: apt-btrfs-snapshot05:37
meganerdgreylurk: not having to partition out disk space in advance.  You get all the space of the device and can dynamically change quotas05:38
greylurkmeganerd: so just the ability to roll back installs?05:39
meganerdgreylurk: your question is deceptively simple.  btrfs has a lot going on under the hood.  If you are not interested in any of the advanced features, then it doesn't matter, though I wonder why you would want to move to it.05:39
greylurkmeganerd: i'm mostly interested in the copy-on-write features.  I'm working quite a bit with lxc, and it seems like it's very useful for cloning containers.05:40
meganerdgreylurk: the ubuntu install default is a good starting point IMHO.05:40
meganerdgreylurk: I didn't think lxc and docker had stable support for btrfs yet?05:41
greylurkmeganerd: lxc explicitly recommends using btrfs, I don't know about docker.05:41
meganerdgreylurk: I use the per block checksumming and remote replication of snapshots mostly.05:41
meganerdgreylurk: like I said, there is a lot going on under the hood.  You can of course carry on, business as usual, but since my home directory has a lot to gain by being on top of btrfs, it makes sense to me to not partition out the device.05:43
roastedHow often does Unity index new files on your system?05:44
meganerdgreylurk: I am heading out now, it should not hurt to do the conversion, though I have not tested this recently.  I do clean installs.  Get familiar with the documentation on btrfs, chances are there are ways to leverage it's features that you have not thought of yet.05:46
greylurkmeganerd: yeah, i was just looking at the deletion of subvolumes and how that might assist with another problem.05:47
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LogicGateshi there05:50
rockerball_Hi05:52
pdevinewhy hello05:57
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sam__hey06:02
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Megatron2000hi06:06
Megatron2000so.. can you install ubuntu via bios online these days?06:06
BeldarMegatron2000, Does that translate to a net install?06:08
Megatron2000idk, I suppose so \o/06:09
Beldar!mini | Megatron200006:09
ubottuMegatron2000: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD06:09
Megatron2000I just want to not have to burn a DVD or "burn" an image to a USB06:09
BeldarMegatron2000, If you have grub 2 you can boot the iso with it06:10
BeldarMegatron2000, One of your best tools is a live dvd/usb anyway06:11
Megatron2000hmm okay. No netinstall via bios then I suppose?06:11
BeldarMegatron2000, If you can explain what that is it would help me.06:12
Megatron2000some mobos has the ability to connect to an ip and install the OS from there, afaik06:15
meganerdMegatron2000: you can PXE boot the mini installer, no USB or CD/DVD06:15
Megatron2000:D06:15
Megatron2000this is weird. I have both the id_rsa and id_rsa.pub files in ~/.ssh. But I can't ssh to localhost "Permission denied (publickey).". Is something missing?06:15
ts9iMegatron2000: ssh-copy-id localhost06:16
Megatron2000are there official ubuntu PXE servers?06:16
Megatron2000ts9i: what does that do?06:16
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ts9iadds the key authorized_keys which is what you need06:16
ts9i*into06:17
meganerdMegatron2000: nothing to do with the motherboard actually.  PXE enabled network card, but you need to have infrastructure to support it (dhcp server that supports options) and a tftp server06:17
meganerdMegatron2000: I have no idea what you mean by "are there official ubuntu PXE servers"?06:18
meganerdMegatron2000: PXE is a link local technology, which means that the DHCP server has to be local, that is connected to the same switch (well technically broadcast domain) as the machine that you want to network boot.06:19
meganerdMegatron2000: so the short answer is "not easily".06:19
meganerdMegatron2000: the less short answer is that it is doable (I in fact have this very setup in my house and in the office).  You will need to do some research.06:20
santhosh<meganerd>using ltsp06:21
Mekhamihey i'm running ubuntu on a vm using virtualbox. can i access the files from there in my host os? i can't find 'em (at first glance)06:22
santhoshthe concept belongs to ltsp06:22
meganerdsanthosh: except if you don't want the other stuff that ltsp provides.  It also likes to be on it's own broadcast domain06:22
meganerdsanthosh: no it doesn't06:22
santhosheacuse same local pxe and dhcp it is in ltsp06:22
meganerdsanthosh: dhcp server and tftp are all you need06:23
santhosh<Mekhami>create nfs server06:23
santhoshyes06:23
meganerdsanthosh: ltsp does a whole lot more.  If you just want to install (or have utilities like systemrescuecd, lenovo bios update ISOs, spinrite, etc) then ltsp is not what you want.06:25
meganerdg'night all06:27
DanaGhmm, I'm getting a gpg error (citing debugsym repo)on updating package lists.  I've done the following about three times, with no change:   apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys ECDCAD72428D7C0106:27
mantashello. After unexpected reboot I am getting "ERROR: asr: reading /dev/sdc[Input/output error]" on boot. The HDD is dead or just need fsck?06:28
santhoshThe HDD is dead  ithink reinstall new one06:32
DanaGmantas:what is 'asr'?  Doesn't sould like any IDE or SATA controller driver I've ever seen.06:34
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mantasDanaG don't know... next error is the same but now "ERROR: isw: reading /dev/sdc[Input/output error]"06:36
DanaGah, 'isw' is Intel FakeRAID.06:36
mantasyes this drive is in fake raid06:37
DanaGhmm, mirroring, or striping?  hope it's mirroring...06:37
DanaGConsider trying "smartctl --all /dev/sdc"06:37
mantasfrom live cd?06:37
DanaGYou can apt-get update, and then apt-get install smartmontools.06:38
DanaG(even on LiveCD.)06:38
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happyfr0ggCould somebody help me to figure out the meaning of this??? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7853052/06:40
ADW Anyone here familiar with FreeNAS?06:40
ObrienDavehappyfr0gg, sudo apt-get install -f06:42
ObrienDavetells you at the bottom what it means06:42
DanaGadw:I've used it, but they do have their own channel.06:42
DanaGTrying to mount NFS or something from Linux?06:42
ADWyes, how did you know? lol06:43
ADWis it #freenas06:43
DanaGadw:Yup.  I'm using NFS mounted from it; the biggest trick is that the paths are absolute.  /mnt/somepool/dir1/dir2/...06:44
ADWokay, got it. I just set up the nas this evening. Have you had good stability with yours?06:45
DanaGI've been experimenting with mine a lot lately, so I can't judge too well.  Plus, I'm running it inside Ubuntu via VT-d, which is rather an edge (and non-advised) use case.06:45
ADWFair enough. The more I'm reading on it, the more im impressed that this is open-source software06:47
ADW10 years ago this type device was reserved for datacenters haha06:48
DanaGIf you're considering buying hardware, note that ECC memory is _highly_ advised.  (Might still be good to move to #freenas)06:48
happyfr0ggObrienDave - I typed into the terminal 'hwe-support-status --verbose'. It gave me the unmet dependencies error. I typed in what you suggested and then typed in 'hwe-support-status --verbose' again and I encounter the same problem.06:48
ADWalright, noted. I ordered two 1tb WD "red" drives, apparently they are better designed for this type use. Only specific motherboards take ecc ram, right? Like server and workstation boards?06:50
meldronhi guys, i just wanted to do a release upgrade, but I got this message: Processing was halted because there were too many errors. No I'm a little bit in panic mode. what should I do now?06:50
ObrienDavehappyfr0gg, you have broken packages and unmet dependencies. they need to be resolved.06:50
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happyfr0ggObrienDave - that is what I am trying to figure out. I can't make sense of which packages are broken and what dependencies need resolving.06:51
Beldarmeldron, The closer to a stock setup the more likely you will succeed. Have you added additional repos and apps/packages?06:51
meldronBeldar: yes i did06:52
meldronBeldar: i thought release upgrade disables all additional ppas06:52
Beldarmeldron, Probably the issue, you can do a ppa-purge06:52
Beldarmeldron, Yes but not the installed packages06:52
EzioNixHi guys!06:53
meldronBeldar: ah okay06:53
Beldar!ppa-purge | meldron06:53
ObrienDavehappyfr0gg, sorry, just a bit beyond my knowledge06:53
ubottumeldron: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html06:53
meldronBeldar: may be it's time the create a bootable device06:53
Beldarmeldron, You should always have one really, not sure your reasoning in it's use however.06:54
FaryshtaHi. I am trying to install ubuntu 14.04 on a tablet but I can't get it to boot06:54
DanaGYeah, PPA-induced breakage may require using Aptitude.  It can show you all the dependencies, then let you downgrade stuff to satisfy the dependencies.  It takes some getting used to the interface, though.06:54
EzioNixanyone here install Hackintosh on HP 14 Chromebook?06:55
meldronBeldar: i'm afraid it will be bricked after i do a reboot06:55
BeldarDanaG, Are you aware of ppa-purge?06:55
meldronso purge, then? upgrade again? apt-get -f install?06:55
DanaGYup, I've used it, but sometimes I still need aptitude.06:55
ObrienDaveEzioNix, hackintosh is not supported here06:55
FaryshtaHow can i install ubuntu 14.04 on an acer aspire p3 tablet?06:55
Beldarmeldron, Look at the link I had the bot give you on ppa-purge06:56
makarahi. Every second time I start 14.04 Desktop the pointer stutters via mouse but not the trackpad06:56
meldronBeldar: i mean to complete my release upddate06:56
EzioNix anyone here install Hackintosh on HP 14 Chromebook06:56
happyfr0ggObrienDave - no problem. I will just make notes and then come back later with a fresh brain. I am fried right now after reading so many pages online.06:56
ObrienDavehappyfr0gg, understood and good luck06:57
Beldarmeldron, without knowing exactly what that means can't really help, and maybe even kow still not helpful.06:57
happyfr0ggThanks.06:57
Beldarknowing*06:57
meldron13.10 -> 14.0406:57
ObrienDaveEzioNix, hackintosh is NOT supported here06:58
Beldarmeldron, You are describing what sounds like a broken upgrade right?06:58
DanaGEzioNix: you probably want other IRC networks entirely, actually.  Most aren't even on Freenode.07:00
Faryshtahas anyone here been able to install ubuntu on an acer aspire p3 tablet?07:00
EzioNixso its a crime to talk about it even07:01
EzioNixfair07:01
EzioNixhas anyone managed to get Ubuntu working natively on HP Chromebook 1407:01
EzioNixhopefully this is more to your speed Obrien07:01
BeldarFaryshta, Are you aware of the uefi setup?07:02
FaryshtaBeldar, yes acer tablets come with dual bios, so i am using legacy07:03
FaryshtaBeldar, the problem is not in windows but ubuntu this time07:03
BeldarFaryshta, Is windows still there?07:04
EzioNixhas anyone managed to get Ubuntu working natively on HP Chromebook 14?07:04
FaryshtaBeldar, yes07:04
BeldarFaryshta, For best help here just describe to the channel what you have tried and where you are at for help.07:05
tiblockHi. Why my friend see this on website? http://puu.sh/aqdFA/d5e14cd552.jpg but really http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.1/ Is that kinda bug on website? He installed x64 on 2gb ram because there is no x86 ubuntu -_-07:05
FaryshtaBeldar, burned iso image with unetbootin, got an "error 8001 reading section" while booting07:06
Faryshtai googled and found this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/unable-creating-a-booting-usb-stick-4175419998/ which i followed and now i don't get it to boot07:06
Beldartiblock, 32bit server http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/07:07
BeldarFaryshta, The channel no me in particular, the "has anybody" is just not relevant is all.07:07
tiblockBeldar, yes, but website says "64-bit only" http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server07:07
tiblockBeldar, he says there is no x86 ubuntu07:08
Beldartiblock, My link is an official canonical link.07:08
FaryshtaBeldar, so can you help me?07:08
tiblockBeldar, mine too07:08
BeldarFaryshta, If I could I would be doing so, and I have helped you in letting you know what the channel needs to help you.07:09
DanaGI've never found unetbootin very reliable.  More reliable on Windows is "LiLi USB Creator".07:09
FaryshtaBeldar, well then let me keep asking07:09
DanaGI'm not sure if there's an official one, but that one works.07:09
Beldarnot me is all Faryshta07:09
Faryshtahas anyone here been able to install ubuntu on an acer aspire p3 tablet?07:09
tiblockBeldar, go to ubuntu.com click Download->server and see "64-bit only"07:10
BeldarFaryshta, THat is not how the channel works bro.07:10
meldronBeldar: yes07:11
Beldartiblock, I cannot make it any clearer the link is a canonical link use it or not. ;)07:11
meldronBeldar:  Processing was halted because there were too many errors. while i did do-release-upgrade07:11
tiblockBeldar, i think we didnt understand each other. My question is "why website says there is no 32 bit version of ubuntu?"07:12
BeldartiblockI understand you clearly.07:12
ObrienDavetiblock, http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/file?info_hash=%F9%BB%9A%98%DDk%A9%EB%C3%21%0C%C4j%F2%05dM%AD%DCx07:12
ObrienDavethat is the i386 server07:12
Beldartiblock, This is support, there is a 32 bit, we are not here to dissect website info.07:13
tiblockObrienDave, yes, thank you. But why http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server says "64-bit only". New users (like my friend) thinks that 32 bit ubuntu is not exists.07:13
ObrienDavetiblock, i would not know why07:13
tiblockObrienDave, Beldar, okay, i will find somebody who deals with website. Thank you.07:14
TariusHello people. I need copy data from one harddisc to another one with all folders,files and HARDLINKS. is this possible using command "cp -a src/* dst" ?? Copy that hardlinks between two hdds ?07:14
Beldarmeldron, Most likely to get help, you will need that failure errors in detail.07:14
meldronBeldar: there were no other error messages07:14
ptmannow that 14.04.1 is out, shouldn't do-release-upgrade work on precise?07:15
Beldarmeldron, Outside my area or want to help to be honest.07:15
Faryshtahas anyone here been able to install ubuntu on an acer tablet?07:18
tiblockptman, update manager updater kernel to 3.2 but its still 12.04.4 and do-release-upgrade says no new versions07:18
ptmantiblock, yes, that's my experience as well07:19
TariusI need migrate one disk content to another. Source HDD contains many hardlinks and I Need this copy to destination disc.07:19
ptmantiblock, I'm wondering why07:19
ptmantiblock, I've seen many times, that do-release-upgrade won't work until 14.04.1 is out07:19
ptmantiblock, well, now it is, so what is still missing?07:19
tiblockptman, in case you find answer, tell me too.07:20
ObrienDaveLost_x, you still here?07:20
geirhaptman, tiblock: «Users of Ubuntu 12.04 will soon be offered an automatic upgrade to 14.04.1 via Update Manager.» http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2014/07/25/ubuntu-14-04-1-lts-released/07:20
Tariuscommand cp -a src/* dst work and copy data with hardlinks correctly bud I try this on single disc. Work this command betwen two HDDs and make correct hardlinks on destination HDD ?07:20
tiblockgeirha, yuor url says i need to register. Man ubuntu's website sux.07:21
geirhatiblock: register to see the fridge? odd07:21
ptmangeirha, thank you, but that doesn't really improve that much over what we can observe right now: 1) it doesn't work, 2) probably canonical will fix it at some point in the future07:21
tiblockgeirha, and also ubuntu's website says x86 not exists http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server07:22
ptmantiblock, I didn't have to07:22
geirhaptman: Give it a day, it'll come around. That's what I interpret from it07:22
ptmantiblock, I believe very few server operating system vendors support 32bit x86 anymore07:22
ptmangeirha, thank you, let's hope the wait is short07:24
ObrienDavehttp://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.1/07:24
ObrienDavego get it, sheesh07:24
BeldarObrienDave, That would not allow complaining. ;)07:25
tiblockptman, well let me chose what hardware i have, not ubuntu.com. He dont know where and on what hardware i will install it. I think they need test x64 so they lie "WE HAVE ONLY x64, GET IT"07:25
ObrienDaveBeldar, i guess so, dang07:25
ObrienDavetiblock, give it a rest, we gave you the links07:25
Beldarwaiter I ordered 20 french fries and got 19 I want to see the manager07:26
ObrienDavefor sure,07:27
ObrienDaveat least my link quieted down the nay-sayers ;P07:28
tiblockObrienDave, i not searching download link, i asking why website lying. Its like you bought candy for 1$ and tell your friend its good. He go and buy it but pays 10$ and you go to shop, and sellers tell to everybody its 10$. And you say "but it really 1$" and he tells "go get it for 1$, sheesh. I will sell it for you for 1$ now go away"07:28
ObrienDavetiblock, OMG give it a rest07:29
tiblockObrienDave, and he tell you this too07:29
ObrienDavego take a chill pill, get some nookie, have a beer, whatever07:30
krejsiHi, how do I partition automaticly with kickstart so /boot is on the first partition and the rest is LVM?07:30
geirhaWhen the time comes to drop 32-bit support completely, upgrading a 32-bit install to a 64-bit install will be hard. Best not encourage anyone to get the 32-bit server07:31
Beldargeirha, No encouragement just stating it is available, and that is an opinion.07:32
Beldarbased on no evidence of dropped support07:32
geirhaI'm just guessing at the reasoning. It makes sense to me to not display the 32-bit version.07:34
pdevinecloud image #fail07:34
ObrienDaveBeldar, you just like to stir up trouble ;P07:35
BeldarObrienDave, Heh, yeah that critical thinking is a burden. ;)07:35
ObrienDavedon't i know it LOL07:35
buuAnyone have an idea on how to force a hdmi monitor into 'off' or 'powersave' mode?07:36
buuAside from xset dpms07:36
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BeldarFrom the ubuntu website alternative downloads http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads07:38
Beldar32 bit server07:38
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vaderwhatsup07:42
ObrienDave6' 6"07:43
Faryshtahas anyone here been able to install ubuntu on an acer tablet?07:45
EtaleHi all. I just a brand new laptop, and I'm trying to get Ubuntu to dual boot with Windows 8. I burned 14.04 LTS to a DVD. The problem is now that I reboot into it,07:50
Etaleafter clicking on the "install ubuntu", it gets stuck on the "ubuntu" logo...07:50
ObrienDaveetale, reboot DVD and see if you can check disk integrity, sounds like a bad burn to DVD07:51
BeldarEtale, Couple things, have you made a unallocated space using the W8 disk manager and are you using the uefi wiki?07:51
krejsiHow do I create a preseed script?'07:52
EtaleObrienDave, I checked integrity...07:52
Beldarand checking the burn, and imaging windows for safety Etale07:52
EtaleBeldar, what are all these things?07:53
Beldar!uefi | Etale07:53
ubottuEtale: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI07:53
BeldarEtale, Windows has a partitioner, you need to make a unallocated space for the ubuntu install with it.07:53
EtaleI thought that I can deal with the partitions during the installation, no?07:54
BeldarEtale, Chances are no, and not a good idea anytime really.07:54
malibuyanslm07:55
BeldarEtale, another valuable link. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214729507:55
EtaleOkay, I'll take some time now to read through these things07:56
blahbrhi07:57
BeldarEtale, Imaging W8 to an external will save your booty if something goes wrong, and making a recovery disc in windows if you are without one or an install is good insurance as well.07:57
Beldarinstall disc*07:57
volkanHow can I fix the following error?07:59
volkanErrors were encountered while processing:07:59
volkan /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6-dev-i386_2.19-0ubuntu6_amd64.deb07:59
brontosaurusrexvolkan, was that when updating?08:01
volkanbrontosaurusrex,  A few hours ago I updated Ubuntu. Now, I am getting this error.08:02
brontosaurusrexi'd try "apt-get autoremove" and update again08:02
cyborgcygnusboot-repair made one of my 4tb ntfs hdd not mountable in windows or linux. Looked at it in gparted & it had boot + hidden ticked on its partition, I unticked hidden but it did nothing. Can I fix this with gparted without formatting it?08:03
brontosaurusrexsudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade08:03
truongduthanh208:04
brontosaurusrex^ volkan08:04
volkanbrontosaurusrex, "E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f." Should I use -f?08:04
brontosaurusrexvolkan, probably08:04
volkanbrontosaurusrex, Same error, "Errors were encountered while processing:/var/cache/apt/archives/libc6-dev-i386_2.19-0ubuntu6_amd64.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"08:05
brontosaurusrexvolkan, exact command line you are using?08:05
volkanbrontosaurusrex, Ubuntu's Terminal08:07
pdevineI just discovered something fun out about the Ubuntu Cloud Image08:07
pdevineit uses a single ext4 partition for the entire disk08:08
mekhamihey i have a CRITICAL error08:08
pdevineand the disk is formatted MBR instead of GPT08:08
mekhamii just installed ubuntu08:08
mekhamiand i'm using a zowie celeritas keyboard08:08
mekhamiand my ctrl/alt/shift keys are not working as modifiers08:08
trijntjemekhami: how do you know?08:10
mekhamibecause i can't shift-anything, ctrl-anything, or alt-anything08:10
mekhamiwhat the fuck kind of question is that08:10
SirLagzmekhami: have you tried a different keyboard ?08:10
trijntjemekhami: be specific, which shortcuts have you tried in which programs?08:10
mekhamiall of them08:10
volkanbrontosaurusrex, There is an error icon on the toolbar. "Check if you are using third party repositories. If so disable them, since they are a common source of problems.Furthermore run the following command in a Terminal: apt-get install -f"08:10
mekhamiand i don't have a different computer08:11
mekhamierr, different keyboard08:11
DJonesOscar119/w 2108:11
DJonesGrr08:11
ObrienDavevolkan, sudo apt-get install -f08:11
mekhamii mean from start to finish i cannot use shift ctrl or alt as modifiers for keys on my keyboard ever for anything08:11
trijntjemekhami: thats not being specific, give examples please. Shortcut and program08:11
mekhamihere's the example08:11
mekhamiin case you weren't listening08:11
mekhamiEVERYTHING08:12
mekhamithere ya go08:12
SirLagzmekhami: does ctrl-alt-f2 work ?08:12
blaaaI am using aa-logprof to generate an apparmor profile, I get warnings about a service connecting to a postgres socket, but aa-logprof does not generate a profile for that...08:12
volkanObrienDave, http://pastie.org/941957108:12
mekhamino what's it supposed to do08:12
mekhamiusing alt by itself brings up08:12
trijntjefine, figure it out for yourself if you don't want help08:12
mekhami'type your command'08:12
mekhamiso when i do ctrl-alt-f208:12
mekhamiit does the same thing08:12
SirLagzok...so ctrl isn't working then I guess08:12
mekhamineither is alt or sh ift...08:12
yogesh#vlead08:13
SirLagzmekhami: is this a laptop ? desktop ?08:13
mekhamiand trijntje try being helpful and i'll accept help, you asked some really useless vague ambiguous questions. waste someone else's time08:13
mekhamiSirLagz: desktop08:13
svetlanawhere do I view the file with the DE options in the lightdm menu please?08:13
trijntjemekhami: so at least the alt key isn't broken, thats why I asked you multiple times to be specific08:13
SirLagzmekhami: if you open a terminal, and hit CTRL-D, does the terminal close ?08:13
mekhamitrijntje: none of the keys are 'broken' they worked 20 minutes ago on windows.08:13
mekhamiSirLagz: idk how to open terminal without ctrl-alt-t08:14
mekhamiSirLagz: i am unfamiliar with the basic ui here, i used gnome kde before and it's different08:14
Fuchssvetlana: depending on version: either /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d  or /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d08:14
SirLagzdo the same thing that brought up the "type your command" window, then type in terminal08:14
svetlanaok Fuchs08:15
SirLagzmekhami: are you using unity ?08:15
trijntjemekhami: hit the windwos key, then type terminal08:15
ObrienDavevolkan, sounds like a bad d/l08:15
mekhamino, ctrl-d does not close the terminal08:15
mekhamii just type the letter 'd'08:15
mekhamicause as i said before08:15
mekhamithe ctrl and shift and alt keys are not working as modifiers08:15
volkanObrienDave, what should I do?08:15
SirLagzright. just checking to see if it was a specific application.08:15
mekhamii said it was with everything. i meant everything.08:16
ObrienDavevolkan, i'm not really sure, sorry08:16
volkanObrienDave, ok, thanks08:17
SirLagzmekhami: never know with some people...08:17
mekhamiSirLagz: sure. now you know, i'm not crazy.08:17
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ObrienDavemekhami, have you accidentally changed keyboard layouts?08:17
mekhamino.08:18
mekhamiit has something to do with the zowie celeritas keyboard08:18
mekhamiit does not supported by the linux kernel i thnk08:18
SirLagzmekhami: open a terminal, run xev, and see if pressing the modifiers brings anything up in the terminal08:18
mekhamiSirLagz: yes, it does, but it releases immediately08:19
SirLagzmekhami: that's not a problem. as long as it registers.08:19
ObrienDavemekhami, has it ever worked properly on anything?08:19
mekhamiObrienDave: on windows 20 minutes ago.08:19
ObrienDavek08:20
SirLagzmekhami: what keycode is coming up ?08:20
volkanObrienDave, This worked: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=206835208:20
mekhamictrl - 3708:20
trijntjemekhami: i've done some googling, looks like its a known bug with the keyboards that the company has no intention on fixing08:21
mekhamitrijntje: is there no fix for me on my side08:21
mekhamiSirLagz: shift - 5008:21
SirLagzmekhami: well since the keyboard is working and is registering keycodes properly, there's probably something you can do...08:21
mekhamiSirLagz: alt - 6408:21
ObrienDavevolkan, glad you have it sorted out08:22
SirLagzmekhami: sounds about right08:22
bcverymekhami, SirLagz, Same issue (same keyboard), thread marked solved: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=195795808:22
DanaGhmm, the only case I've seen ALL modifier keys break was when I switched focus out of vmware, and I dared to have touched my keyboard settings.08:22
SirLagzbcvery: cool08:23
trijntjemekhami: here someone says they fixed it by using 'usbkbd' drivers, not sure what those are though. http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.input/2853608:23
mekhamibcvery: not really 'solved' as it says i have to use physical adapters which i don't own08:23
DanaGSet "right alt is altgr" or set "unicode keypad"... oops, now vmware can't comprehend the keyboard settings, and thus decides to wipe out all the modifiers.08:23
DanaGThaaaaanks, vmware.08:23
DanaGHow about I go to your office and pry all the modifer keys off your keyboards?08:23
SirLagzDanaG: lol. nice.08:24
mekhamii'm gonna rage if i have to buy a new keyboard to use my computer.08:24
mekhami130 dollar keyboard 'oops we don't support linux'08:24
DanaGmekhami: try opening terminal and running 'xev'.08:24
SirLagzmekhami: back to the xev stuff, what happens if you do something like "ctrl-t" ?08:25
SirLagzmekhami: do the codes come up in the order of you pressing ctrl-t ?08:25
mekhamisirlagz let me try to explain what happens cause i'm not entirely sure myself08:26
SirLagzmekhami: feel free to pastebin the output if you want08:27
mekhamiwhen i press ctrl i get keypress and keyrelease instantly08:27
mekhamiSirLagz: i can't copypaste for obvious reasons...08:27
mekhamiactually i can right click in terminal that's useful08:28
SirLagzmekhami: hightlight in terminal will copy08:28
mekhamihttp://pastebin.com/pALTBk7M08:28
SirLagzmekhami: ok, so same issue that my google searches turned up08:29
SirLagzmekhami: I don't know how much more I can help then, sorry =/08:29
trijntjemekhami: you could try using the usbkdb driver that I linked to, not sure if its still available though08:30
svetlana!info xlockmore all08:31
ubottu'all' is not a valid distribution: extras, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed08:31
svetlana!info xlockmore08:31
ubottuPackage xlockmore does not exist in trusty08:31
svetlanawhy is it not in the latest release?08:31
Faryshtahas anyone here been able to install ubuntu on an acer tablet?08:31
mekhamitrijntje: i'm not sure how i can install those drivers. idk how. could you help with that part/08:32
cfhowlett!info xlockmore-gl08:33
ubottuPackage xlockmore-gl does not exist in trusty08:33
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trijntjemekhami: wait, I have a better idea how to fix it. Go to accesibility settings, and turn on sticky keys08:34
SirLagztrijntje: genious.08:34
SirLagzingenious*08:34
willwork4fooFaryshta: I've had ubuntu Touch on an ASUS Nexus 7 - I think you need to stick to the compatible devices list.08:34
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SirLagzgenius ? ingenius ? i don't know anymore. it's late. Hometime ! talk to you later08:34
mekhamitrijntje: oh god. horrible windows memories.08:35
samuraiscusate  come si entra nel canale ubuntu-vhat08:35
dexxgood day everyone08:35
trijntjeSirLagz: thanks, I hope it works08:35
samuraijoin ubuntu-it-cht?08:35
ObrienDave!it | samurai08:35
ubottusamurai: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)08:35
Faryshtawillwork4foo, cool. i have an acer aspire p3 but haven't been able to get it to boot08:35
Guest79083I am trying to install 14.04 on a PC but it hangs on "Preparing to install Ubuntu". Tried to repartition/reformat the SSD disk but still the same.08:35
trijntjemekhami: it should only apply to modifier keys, so it should solve your problem nicely08:35
samuraijoin ubuntu-it08:36
Faryshtawillwork4foo, which steps you followed to install it?08:36
mekhamitrijntje: it does, but not necessarily 'nicely' haha08:36
trijntjemekhami: not nicely? What kind of side effects do you get?08:36
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mekhamitrijntje: for instance if i do ctrl+alt+t, terminal pops up, but it holds one of the modifiers for the next keystrokeo as well, not sure which08:36
mekhamiAlso08:36
mekhamiif i press shift and another key too quickly it acts like caps lock08:37
willwork4fooFaryshta: http://developer.ubuntu.com/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/08:37
mekhaminot sure what that's all about08:37
stclawsI thought that this hanging on "Preparing to install" was gone in Ubuntu 14. Any clue anyone?08:37
trijntjemekhami: I've never used it myself, but it looks like there are a lot of sliders and check boxes to work with, try playing with those08:37
trijntjemekhami: you could also file a but with this workaround so other people can find out about it, and maybe complain to the company? If enough people do they might do something about it08:39
mekhamitrijntje: it's a chinese company i think they give zero shits08:39
Faryshtawillwork4foo, can't find my device there08:40
dexxladies and gentlemen, I need to install xte but I can't seem to locate it, any ideas?08:40
willwork4fooFaryshta: then it won't work.....08:42
trijntjemekhami: at least file a bug, google searches bug reports, so it might help some other people who run into the same issue08:45
GhostReconhi!!! :D08:47
stclawsCould someone point me to possible causes why 14.04 would hang on "Preparing to install Ubuntu". I tried to repartition/reformat the SSD disk but still the same. Can't find any solution.08:48
GhostReconi <3 windows08:48
cfhowlettFaryshta so no one has attempted to install or no one has reported on it.  either way support is in #ubuntu-touch - not here08:48
cfhowlett!touch08:48
ubottuInformation about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch08:48
GhostReconWINDOWS WINDOW WINDOWS C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32!08:49
trijntjesome people have too much free time08:49
cynicallemonsome people use a bad OS too08:50
surfer77#channelStarter_supporters08:50
surfer77You want to start a new Channel with more than 3 people?! no problem we're getting on it for free, so that you got it made!08:50
cfhowlett!spam | surfer7708:51
ubottusurfer77: Please don't spam08:51
hebz0rlhi how can i get the version for an update for a specific packageß08:51
hebz0rl-ß +?08:51
cfhowlettk1l_ you are seriously on the case!  many thanks.08:51
ObrienDavek1l_ has faster fingers than cfhowlett ;P08:51
cfhowlettObrienDave hebz0rl apt-cache policy will display08:52
hebz0rlcfhowlett, thx!08:53
cfhowletthebz0rl happy2help08:53
giorgiodinapolican any one help me with the vswithc stugg08:54
giorgiodinapolistuff08:54
dropssalut08:55
dropsdidli?08:55
cfhowlett!it|drops08:55
ubottudrops: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)08:55
dropsnon08:56
dropsdidli?08:56
krejsiHi, how do I partition automaticly with preseed so /boot is on the first partition and the rest is LVM?08:57
dropsje cherche didli08:57
cfhowlett!fr | dropdrive08:57
ubottudropdrive: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.08:58
cfhowlett!drops08:58
dropsje tape se ou08:58
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krejsiHi, someone please help me with inserting a /boot partition of ext2 at the beginning of this preseed script http://pastebin.com/n1HYLj8G09:02
krejsiis it possible to have a /boot partition and a lvm partition on the next part?09:11
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manuelHi, i'm trying to edot my Hotspot Configuration through nm-connection-editor. But some options (i want to change) dont get saved. Now, i would be fine editing the corresponding file directly under /etc/NM/system-connections/Hotspot - My Question is there any reference as to the available options/Settings that go into that file?09:23
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coreder_I'm getting a error when I open Vidalia09:26
coreder_it says tor already running09:26
cynicallemoncoreder_, kill the process by issuing a "killall vidalia" and relaunch it09:28
svectorHi, any ideas why my grails 2.3 application is generating jUnit tests not Spock?09:29
svectorSorry guy wrong channel09:29
svector*guys09:29
svetlanathat's ok09:29
coreder_cynicallemon: I get the same error.09:29
svetlanacoreder_, maybe you also have tor running? `pgrep tor` should tell09:30
cfhowlett!info tor09:31
ubottutor (source: tor): anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.4.20-1 (trusty), package size 725 kB, installed size 2634 kB09:31
cynicallemoncoreder_, ok, i then usually open the vidalia settings and uncheck "start the tor software..." in general section/tab09:31
coreder_svetlana: You were right. It showed two PID. I killed them both with kill -9 pid and launchd vidalia. It didn't work. Same error.09:32
svetlanalook at what cynicallemon said and see if it gets you anywhere09:32
coreder_cynicallemon: it's already unchecked.09:32
svetlanahmm09:32
cynicallemoncoreder_, also you need to select "use tcp connection" in advanced09:33
coreder_cynicallemon: "Vidalia was unable to start Tor. Check your settings to ensure the correct name and location of your Tor executable is specified." This is the error I get.09:33
coreder_cynicallemon: I selected it. Still not working.09:34
coreder_cynicallemon: Same error.09:34
cynicallemonhave you fully exited vidalia?09:35
coreder_cynicallemon: I gave killall vidalia.09:35
cynicallemoncoreder_, what does "ps aux | grep vidalia" show?09:37
coreder_cynicallemon: 32226  0.0  0.0  16996   916 pts/4    S+   15:07   0:00 grep --color=auto vidalia09:37
coreder_cynicallemon: but, kill -9 3222609:38
coreder_bash: kill: (32226) - No such process09:38
cynicallemonthats fine, just showing the grep so vidalia is inactive09:38
coreder_cynicallemon: $ whereis tor09:39
coreder_tor: /usr/bin/tor /usr/sbin/tor /etc/tor /usr/bin/X11/tor /usr/share/tor /usr/share/man/man1/tor.1.gz09:39
cynicallemoncoreder_, i assume you are in the tor group09:39
coreder_should I change where it starts in vidalia?09:39
coreder_cynicallemon: I am not sure. How do I check?09:40
cynicallemoncoreder_, just type "groups" at the command line09:40
coreder_cynicallemon: I don't see tor there09:41
cynicallemoncoreder_, im on debian and the group is debian-tor09:41
Pandohi09:41
coreder_cynicallemon: groups |grep *tor returns nothing09:42
WangWeiWhen I start to develop a scope app, I receive package 'libunity-scopes>=0.5.0' not found09:42
llutz_cynicallemon: thats the user/group tor runs as, no need to be member of that group to use tor09:42
WangWeiHow can I solve it09:42
coreder_cynicallemon: so I guess I'm not in the tor group.09:42
PandoI'm running ubuntu 13.04 64-bit, and I'm having trouble installing the blt package, the extension library for Tcl/Tk09:42
Pandoaptitude only get 404 Not Found errors09:42
Pandoand going on http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/amd64/blt/download, every single mirror seems to 404 too09:43
llutz_Pando: isn't 13.04 EOL now?09:43
Pandois there something weird going on with this package ?09:43
llutz_!eol | Pando09:43
ubottuPando: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades09:43
coreder_cynicallemon: is there anything I can do?09:44
cynicallemonllutz_, the user should still be a member of the tor group09:44
llutz_cynicallemon: why?09:44
coreder_cynicallemon: I can run tor from the terminal, but my ISP blocks access to it.09:44
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coreder_cynicallemon: I need vidalia to add the bridges09:45
Pandowell, it would be a shame to have to upgrade the entire os for one package, but, well09:45
coreder_cynicallemon: if you can help me add the bridges from the commandline, that's fine.09:45
llutz_cynicallemon: oh its a vidalia thing, sry you're right09:47
cynicallemonllutz_, i know :)09:48
FarLightI made a ttf and am trying to install it09:48
FarLightit opens okay in the font-viewer but when I click install it says install failed09:48
FarLightis there any place I can check for logged errors?09:48
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FarLightor get it to output some kind of error?09:48
coreder_cynicallemon: how do I add myself in debian-tor?09:49
cynicallemoncoreder_, depends what group runs the vidalia process on ubuntu, you could try debian-tor09:50
coreder_cynicallemon: useradd -G debian-tor coreder09:50
coreder_useradd: user 'coreder' already exists09:50
cynicallemonuseradd -a -G debian-tor coreder09:50
yecril71plHow do I create a multipart zip?09:50
coreder_cynicallemon: useradd: invalid option -- 'a'09:51
cynicallemonusermod -a -G debian-tor coreder09:52
wlxeadlala09:52
wlxead?09:52
jelly-homeyecril71pl: zip command manual refers to a separate zipsplit utility09:53
wlxead神兽!09:53
cfhowlett!cn|wlxead09:53
ubottuwlxead: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw09:53
cfhowlett!kylin | wlxead09:54
ubottuwlxead: Ubuntu Kylin is a variant of Ubuntu that focuses on Chinese users. It is a formal part of Ubuntu. For more information, see http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/ubuntukylin09:54
coreder_cynicallemon: I still don't get anything in groups |grep *tor09:54
yecril71plI cannot create the zip in the first place09:54
yecril71plThe archive manager says it has encountered an unidentified problem09:54
* cfhowlett thinks the Ubuntu Kylin factioid should be written in Mandarin like !cn09:54
yecril71plSo the path to create the zip and then split it does not really work09:54
meldronhi guys, how can i configure that my monitor is turned off if the screen is locked (14.04, it worked in 13.10)09:55
cynicallemoncoreder_, if the usermod command did not error then it added you to the debian-tor group, you will have to logout and login again for it to take effect09:55
blackyboyAudio not working in ubuntu 14.04, before its worked fine .09:55
jelly-homeyecril71pl: is among the files you're trying to archive one equal or larger than 2GiB?09:55
jetharWhat is difference between 14.04.1 and 14.04 besides security update. If I install 14.04 with "get updates" at install do I get same thing as 14.04.109:56
cynicallemonjethar - basically yes09:56
yecril71plNo, but du says over 5 GiB.09:56
cfhowlettjethar not quite.  apt-get dist-upgrades will make your system equivalent to 14.04.109:57
yecril71plWell, I am not sure actually09:57
cfhowlett... assuming you currently have 14.04 installed09:57
cynicallemonlol09:57
jetharcfhowlett: in terms of installed software and others libraries would it make a difference except for version change.09:58
k1ljethar: think of it as service packs on windows. if you run the updates you are on the same pace. but its easier not to load all updates if you do a fresh install09:58
coreder_cynicallemon: I logged out and logged in. I'm now part of debian-tor, but vidalia returns the same error09:58
k1ljethar: you need "apt-get dist-upgrade" to get all updates. it doesnt make you from 13.10 to 14.04.09:59
jethark1l: and cynicallemon: thanks.09:59
cynicallemoncoreder_, is the start tor unchecked still, and use tcp connection selected still?10:00
yecril71plIs Question #25216010:01
jethark1l: just one more point. In case of move from 13.30 to 14.04 ppa repositories would change,. But for 14.04 to 14.04.1 they would remain same. Wouldn't they10:01
coreder_cynicallemon: start tor still unchecked, Use TCP connection checked.10:01
cfhowlettjethar correct10:01
k1ljethar: its only "trusty" technical10:01
cynicallemoncoreder_, and path is /usr/bin/tor?10:02
coreder_cynicallemon: it's /usr/sbin/tor10:03
cynicallemoncoreder_, sorry thats what i meant10:03
coreder_cynicallemon: yes.10:03
cynicallemoncoreder_, in advanced section what is the settings for "tor config file" and "data directory"?10:04
coreder_cynicallemon: /home/coreder/.vidalia/torrc the file is empty10:06
cynicallemoncoreder_, yeah i think that file is usually empty unless you add some customizations10:07
coreder_cynicallemon: is it possible to add bridges to tor without vidalia?10:09
coreder_I need vidalia just to add the bridges10:09
coreder_cynicallemon: tor starts fine, it's just vidalia that doesn't.10:10
cynicallemoncoreder_, make sure the tcp connection has ip address of 127.0.0.1 and port of 9051 - i also my authentication password randomly generated too10:10
coreder_cynicallemon: TCP connection has the same config, and password is already set to random10:11
cynicallemonok10:11
cynicallemoni also specified my data directory as /home/<user>/.tor - think it was /tmp by default10:12
coreder_cynicallemon: the data dir is empty.10:13
coreder_cynicallemon: should I specify it as you said?10:13
cynicallemoncoreder_, yeah, it won't hurt10:14
jhpy1024Hey guys, I'm running Xubuntu 14.04 64bit and scrolling in the terminal is choppy and slow10:14
jhpy1024But scrolling seems fine everywhere else10:14
coreder_cynicallemon: Fine. I just did that.10:14
jhpy1024This happens in both xfce4's terminal and gnome-terminal10:14
jhpy1024(by slow scrolling I mean slow scrolling in vim)10:15
cynicallemoncoreder_, all i can now suggest is just to reboot maybe, to freshen the system and see if it works - else im out of suggestions10:15
coreder_cynicallemon: thanks for all the help. I know this problem is weird. I guess I should post in the forums!10:16
jhpy1024I'm pretty sure it's not Vim because I've ran Vim with the default config ("vim -u NONE") and the slow scrolling is still there10:16
cynicallemoncoreder_, vidalia is a pain on debian based systems10:17
cynicallemoncoreder_, did you install vidalia from ubuntu repos?10:18
coreder_cynicallemon: yes. I did apt-get install vidalia10:18
coreder_cynicallemon: I'm on lubuntu, if that helps.10:18
coreder_cynicallemon: any idea under what category I can post in Ubuntu forums?10:19
volkanCan anyone chack this error please? http://pastie.org/941980410:19
feitingeni'd like to test a heavily fragmented filesystem against a defragmented filesystem, do you know if there is such a thing as a filesystem fragmenter? (a de-defrag tool) any filesystem with posix support (not fat32) is good10:19
MonkeyDustvolkan  try sudo apt-get update, first10:20
cynicallemoncoreder_, i actually downloaded using tor projects repos so that maybe another avenue to explore10:20
volkanMonkeyDust, I did10:21
MonkeyDustvolkan  try   sudo dpkg --configure -a10:23
coreder_cynicallemon: I shall try that too. Thanks :)10:23
volkanMonkeyDust, http://pastie.org/941981010:24
MonkeyDustvolkan  libc means library for C (language) and gcc is related to that too, search in that direction10:26
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hongloutest10:32
svetlanahi it works10:33
ObrienDave\o/10:34
Guest47064can anyone say when do-release-upgrade is going to work for the LTS.. 14.04.1 has supposedly been released which is when it should work..10:34
Guest47064or is there a cache that I need to refresh or sometghing?10:34
ObrienDavewhen it works10:34
cfhowlettGuest47064 "when it's done" ... chillax.10:35
ObrienDavei'll do the snarky cfhowlett ;P10:35
MonkeyDustvolkan  are you a developer?10:35
volkanMonkeyDust, no10:36
* cfhowlett defers to ObrienDave's superior snark ability10:36
ObrienDaverofl10:36
ObrienDaveyou promised to be good :))10:36
MonkeyDustvolkan  because all the failing packages end in -dev10:37
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Guest38675Hallo. Ich habe gerade von Ubuntu 10.04 auf 12.04 geupdatet. Wenn ich den Rechner hochfahre, habe ich Probleme mit der Grafikdarstellung. Alles flackert und ich habe 4 Mauszeiger. Unmöglich etwas zu lesen. Irgendeine Idee10:37
cfhowlett!de|Guest3867510:38
ubottuGuest38675: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!10:38
volkanMonkeyDust,  I updated Ubuntu this morning and it asked me if I want  to remove unused things and I clicked the remove button10:38
Guest38675Oh, Sorry aber man hatte mich schon nach hier geschickt10:38
volkanAfter that, this happened10:38
sonneany idea why my precise servers don't see the trusty upgrade yet?10:39
sonnedo-release-upgrade -c yields "No new release found"10:39
MonkeyDustvolkan  updated from... to... ?10:40
maxviI need something like this http://www.cadkas.com/downengcad4font2dxf.php but console variant for linux to create single line vector from a text.10:40
Guest47064sonne: AFAICT the relevant monkey hasn't flipped the switch yet10:40
volkanMonkeyDust, No, it was just a softwqare update10:40
maxvior any php/python suggestion10:41
MonkeyDustvolkan  what's the outcome of   cat /etc/issue10:41
volkanMonkeyDust, volkan@volkan:~$ cat /etc/issue10:41
volkanUbuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l10:41
MonkeyDustvolkan  ok10:42
sonneGuest47064, but it should be there theoretically, shouldn't it?10:42
Guest47064sonne: yes, I'm waiting the same too :)10:43
sonnealright :)10:43
maxvihow can I convert the image http://smages.com/images/untitlljl.png to vector spline10:44
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MonkeyDustmaxvi  try inkscape or gimp10:44
TJ-sonne: you can watch this URL for when Trusty shows up: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts10:47
sonneah!10:47
maxviMonkeyDust: I need console suggestion.10:48
sonnei thought it was somehow automatic that even.04.1 releases were LTS and ready for upgrades10:48
langhunhi10:48
sonneTJ-, as far as you know, does it mean that 14.04.1 hasn't yet been formally declared as lts, or that it's not ready and we have no idea when it will be?10:49
ObrienDavesonne, it's like rolling releases. not everyone is getting informed at the same time10:49
sonneObrienDave, i see10:50
MonkeyDustmaxvi  missed that part in your question10:50
TJ-sonne: Trusty is an LTS release. Adam conrad announced this morning that the 14.04.1 release is done, but for some reason neither the main archive nor the release-meta have been published10:50
langhunmy wiress card driver is loaded  but  cant  use it10:50
sonneTJ-, i see10:50
sonnejust a formal issue then10:50
andieok, i need some help10:50
sonnei'm glad :)10:50
langhunno  ra010:50
andiehow can i change alternate users password via terminal?10:51
andiecan i change a particular user password via sudoe?10:52
cfhowlett!password10:52
ubottuForgot your password? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords10:52
NetBillyHello. I have an ubuntu 10.10 server with uptime 783 days. I tried to live convert it to vmware, which completed with no errors, but booting up the new VM gives error: 'init: ureadahead main process (342) terminated with status 5'10:52
bcverymaxvi, I don't know much about the program, but Inkscape can be used from terminal (Source: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Frequently_asked_questions#Can_Inkscape_be_used_from_the_command_line.3F)10:52
andieubottu: does that work for an another user?10:52
ubottuandie: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)10:52
NetBillyI checked fstab, and removed everything that doesn't point to sda, except swap, still give same problem. Any ideas?10:52
andieNetBilly: is there a way to change a local user password via sudo from another account?10:53
NetBillyI can only get onto the file system using recovery boot cd10:53
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TJ-sonne: The upgrade does show up if you use "do-release-upgrade --proposed"10:54
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andiehow to i change another users password via root via terminal10:54
cfhowlettandie http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/12/how-to-change-password-on-ubuntu/10:55
svetlanause "passwd username"10:55
andiehow to i change another users password via root via terminal? =(10:55
andiecfhowlett: yet?10:55
svetlanawhy do people rely on the web? :)10:55
svetlanaandie, see what I said above10:55
NetBillyandie: sudo passwd andie10:55
cfhowlettandie dude ... READ  http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/12/how-to-change-password-on-ubuntu/10:55
andiecfhowlett: yes?10:55
andiecfhowlett: ok10:55
svetlanacfhowlett, no.10:55
svetlanaandie, use "passwd username"10:55
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andiecfhowlett: you10:58
andiecfhowlett: you will see if this works in a min10:58
langhunjerry@langhun-pc:~$ lsmod |grep mt76010:59
langhunmt7601Usta            814672  010:59
langhunjerry@langhun-pc:~$ ifconfig10:59
langhuneth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 94:de:80:7b:e8:f010:59
langhun          inet addr:192.168.1.2  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0          inet6 addr: fe80::96de:80ff:fe7b:e8f0/64 Scope:Link10:59
langhun          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:110:59
langhun          RX packets:2018 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:010:59
unopastelanghun you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted10:59
* ObrienDave sharpens up the snarky stick10:59
sonneTJ-, what is the difference exactly?11:02
TJ-sonne: packages in -proposed will be promoted to the main repository barring bugs/problems being found in them (rare).  The delay in the upgrade appearing is that the packages haven't been promoted as yet11:04
sonneTJ-, i see11:04
sonnethanks11:04
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TJ-sonne: Just for completeness, when doing a --proposed upgrade, the UpdateManager.MetaReleaseCore fetches http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts-proposed (where you'll see Trusty listed). That list will move to .../meta-release-lts for do-release-upgrade to 'see' Trusty11:13
halvorhello11:14
halvori tried everything to get an intel wireless working on 14.04, but no luck11:14
halvorit's N 726011:14
halvoris there any guide on how to get this working that i haven't seen yet?11:14
TJ-halvor: Does the system have any network connection currently, via Ethernet?11:15
halvoryes, via ethernet11:15
halvorit's a lenovo l440 laptop, by the way11:15
halvorgot the linux-firmware package installed11:15
halvorcopied the firmware files from intel to /lib/firmware/11:16
saizaiSorry if this is a duplicate, but I’ve checked online and not found an answer: why is running sudo do-release-upgrade on my 12.04 LTS server not finding 14.04.01? AFAICT it was released yesterday.11:16
halvornothing helped11:16
saizai*14.04.1 that is11:16
TJ-halvor: Can you "lspci -vvvnnk | pastebinit"11:16
halvorTJ-: with the | pastebinit11:17
halvor?11:17
saizai(FWIW, do-upgrade-release -dc does find 14.04, but not 14.04.1)11:18
TJ-saizai:  Adam Conrad announced this morning that the 14.04.1 release is done, but the meta-release-lts notification hasn't yet been updated at http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts11:18
saizaiTJ-: Ah, thanks. Any ETA on that?11:18
TJ-halvor: Trusty should have pastebinit installed, which will automatically pastebin the output for you11:18
booliestcan anyone point me to a 14.04.1 download?11:18
TJ-saizai: 10 hours ago :)11:18
saizaiso I’m not missing something then, it actually is behind :p11:19
TJ-saizai: Lots of people asking the same question, all impatient :)11:20
saizaieh, no worries, just wondering what the ETA was ;)11:20
halvorTJ-:  http://pastebin.com/rVjCkzbR11:20
saizaiI don’t mind waiting, just thought I missed something11:20
booliestcan anyone point me to a 14.04.1 download?11:21
ObrienDavehttp://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.1/11:22
TJ-halvor: I don't see a kernel module for that device (10ec:818b) in the kernel, let me cross-check11:23
booliestthanks ObrienDave11:23
halvorTJ-: how can i set up the kernel module to load?11:23
compdocjust updated my 14.04 server, and now its 14.04.1   :)11:24
TJ-halvor: Are we talking at cross-purposes here? You said the device is a " N 7260" but the 'lspci' output only shows a Realtek RTL8192EE for wireless11:25
halvorTJ-: the specs of the laptop say that it has an intel wireless chip11:26
TJ-halvor: It doesn't according to that 'lspci'11:26
halvorTJ-: you are right. how could I install the needed drivers to get it working then?11:27
TJ-halvor: Only the upstream mainline kernel has support for that, in the 'r8192ee' module11:27
TJ-halvor I have the very latest linux v3.16 release candidate 6 kernel here, and it shows it has r8192ee included11:28
halvorTJ-: is there an easy way to get the latest kernel? or it is neccessary to compile it?11:28
TJ-halvor: You could install that from the Ubuntu Mainline kernel archives. see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds11:28
TJ-halvor: The Ubuntu mainline kernel are Ubuntu packaged builds of the upstream kernel with no additional Ubuntu patches11:29
karab44hello11:29
halvorTJ-: thanks, i think that will do it11:29
karab44I just returned from holiday and Ubuntu 14.04 don't want to update11:29
paulo_Hello11:30
karab44it says that there's no internet connection... well how's that possible I can chat on IRC ?11:30
halvorTJ-: i need both the image and the headers, right?11:30
paulo_I'm trying to download my kernel sources through  apt-get source linux-image-3.13.0-24-generic11:30
paulo_but it's giving me linux_3.13.0-3211:30
TJ-halvor: Yes, the _all.deb and $ARCH.deb packages11:30
TJ-halvor: usually its 3 packages required (generic or lowlatency variations)11:31
halvorTJ-: linux-headers-3.16.0-031600rc6-generic_3.16.0-031600rc6.201407210035_amd64.deb, linux-headers-3.16.0-031600rc6_3.16.0-031600rc6.201407210035_all.deb, linux-image-3.16.0-031600rc6-generic_3.16.0-031600rc6.201407210035_amd64.deb11:32
halvorTJ-: is that the right 3?11:32
Somayai tried to install ubuntu 14.04 using unetbootin along side my windows but it says no os deteced.what should i do?11:33
TJ-halvor: Yes11:33
halvorTJ-: i go with the generic11:33
TJ-paulo_: That is because all the binary packages are built from the same source package (source isn't versioned)11:34
Somayaanyone can help me?11:34
paulo_TJ-: I don't get what you mean. so *-24 is the same as *-35?11:34
TJ-paulo_: If you want the exact source you'll need to use the kernel git repositories11:35
karab44after I done apt-get update apt-get upgrade much different packages has been updated than these shown in update manager... Why is that?11:35
SomayaTJ , can you help me?11:36
TJ-paulo_: No. binary versioned packages are built using source-code from the source package. A source package contains the latest patches at all times.11:36
paulo_ok. thanks11:37
TJ-Somaya: Sorry, no, I'm working on other things here11:37
Somayaanyone else can't help me?11:38
reversiblean /nick reversiblean11:39
ObrienDaveSomaya, uefi machine?11:39
reversiblean     /msg nickserv register secretofkells7 reversiblean@live.com11:39
ObrienDave!uefi | Somaya11:40
ubottuSomaya: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI11:40
MonkeyDustreversiblean  change your password!11:40
reversibleanthx11:40
yeatsreversiblean: no spaces before the / for commands11:40
reversibleanok11:40
ObrienDaveegads ;P11:41
reversibleanoops11:41
SomayaObrienDave,ubottu,tnx11:41
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ObrienDaveSomaya, http://itsfoss.com/install-ubuntu-1404-dual-boot-mode-windows-8-81-uefi/11:43
tracyonehow can know /dev/sda is a hard disk or USB Disk11:45
MonkeyDusttracyone  lsblk or lsusb11:46
tracyonelsblk only list "NAME    MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT"11:47
YevgenyI need help with expect script11:47
Yevgenyany body skilled at Expect scripting?11:47
karab44ok software updater started to work after apt-getting updates in terminal11:47
MonkeyDustYevgeny  how is that ubuntu related?11:48
paulo_TJ-: there are two 3.13.0-24 in git, 3.13.0-24.46 and 3.13.0-24.4711:48
paulo_is there a way to get the commit hash of the running kernel via a shell command?11:49
paulo_nevermind found it11:49
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jnhghyis there a terminal command to see if my motherboard is soket 775?11:50
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paulo_now I have two tags left: Ubuntu-3.13.0-24.46 and Ubuntu-3.13.0-24.46^{}11:51
ObrienDavejnhghy, you can look that up on the net by your motherboard model #11:52
jnhghy ObrienDave: I see, thanks :)11:52
paulo_TJ-: why are there two tags of almost the same name?11:52
Somayabut my system is 32bit i can't use uefi11:55
roknrolaanyone for a question?11:55
compdocsure. what is the meaning of life?11:56
roknrolayou find your own11:56
roknrolawhat about my question11:56
compdocyou havent asked one11:56
roknrolaok. so i have 14.04. have my distro automatically upgrade to 14.04.1?11:57
cfhowlettroknrola not unless you set it to do.11:57
compdoci manually upgraded 14.04 to 14.04.111:58
MonkeyDustcompdoc  you should add that you have 14.04 server11:58
roknrolaunder lsb_release -a it says Description:Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS11:58
Somayai couldn't solve my problem11:58
YevgenyMonkeyDust: I use expect in a bash script11:58
MonkeyDustYevgeny  i guess #bash is more what you want11:59
compdocMonkeyDust, do you have desktop? didnt 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' work for you?11:59
Somayais there anyone to help me?12:00
cfhowlett!ask | Somaya12:00
ubottuSomaya: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience12:00
MonkeyDustcompdoc  no, i returned to 12.04.3 ... even 12.04.4 doesnt suit my hardware12:00
compdocSomaya, do you dual boot?12:01
ObrienDaveSomaya, do you have the 32bit ISO or a 64bit?12:01
Somayai tried to install ubuntu14.04 using unetbootin along side my windows but it says there is no os detected12:01
Somaya32bit12:02
Somayayes i want dual boot12:02
ObrienDaveSomaya, have you tried to boot the computer after you saw the no os message? (normally)12:03
Somayait says to erase the disk and i don't want to12:03
compdocI think I once read that 32bit ubuntu doesnt support uefi12:03
AlexPortablesudo mount -t udf /dev/sr0 /mnt12:04
AlexPortablemount: /dev/sr0: can't read superblock12:04
AlexPortablehow can i make it read anyway>?12:04
Somayai quieted the installition12:04
SomayaobrienDave, what should i do?12:05
idowihow do i reply with quote on the forums?12:06
ObrienDaveno, take the USB/DVD out and reboot. let's see if the computer is still ok first12:06
ObrienDaveSomaya, ^^^12:07
Somayayes12:07
Somayait is ok and i have my windows12:07
SomayaobrienDave , did you got my answer?12:08
ObrienDaveok good, sec12:09
Somayanow what should i do?12:09
ObrienDavewhat OS is running now Win7?12:09
Somayano it is windows 812:10
ObrienDavethen are you sure it's 32bit?12:10
Somayayes i am sure12:11
ObrienDaveok, sec12:11
Somayaand my ram is 1 GB12:11
cfhowlett!12:11
cfhowlett1 gig!12:11
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Somayayes12:11
Somayawhy you asked?12:12
cfhowlettSomaya expect less than optimal performance due limited ram.  consider lubuntu or xubuntu12:12
* ObrienDave suggests Xubuntu12:12
paulo_Are utopic and trusty ubuntu "versions"?12:13
paulo_what is the proper term?12:13
Fuchsyes12:13
cfhowlett!flavors | paulo_12:13
Fuchsreleases or versions. I'd go with versions.12:13
ubottupaulo_: !Ubuntu-GNOME, !Kubuntu, !Xubuntu and !Lubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with GNOME, KDE, Xfce, and LXDE (respectively) installed as default, instead of Unity. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, and !Mythbuntu.12:13
yecril71plI cannot see any keyboard layouts I could add12:13
paulo_For example, I want to say, don't use trusty, use another Ubuntu "version"12:13
SomayaobrienDave you mean i should use Xubuntu12:14
paulo_is version the right word?12:14
yecril71plI can see them in unity but not when on the classic desktop12:14
paulo_ok, I think i'll use release12:14
ObrienDaveSomaya, that is what i'm using now. 1GB ram the minimum for Ubuntu/Unity12:15
yecril71plOh, I see: Xkb extension not present over Xvnc12:15
przemekhello anyone could give me an example of LOA document? to12:15
przemekI need this in order to announcement own ipv412:16
cfhowlettpaul_ "release"12:16
paulo_przemek: that's very off topic12:16
przemekpaulo_:  yes ineed your are right in this regards...12:16
MonkeyDustprzemek  type / #ubuntu-offtopic, ask again there12:16
cfhowlettprzemek or ##linux12:16
MonkeyDustprzemek  type /j #ubuntu-offtopic, ask again there12:16
loaprzemek, i can't, sorry.12:21
yecril71plWhy can´t I see the free space on disk in the Disk Utility?12:22
yecril71plIt says Available: -12:22
WolfInSheepskinhey gays12:25
WolfInSheepskinI think ubuntu has no future12:25
* ObrienDave looks for snarky rock12:25
WolfInSheepskinFor a simple reason12:25
WolfInSheepskinUPDATES12:25
WolfInSheepskinHow do you think this will end?12:26
MonkeyDustWolfInSheepskin  thank you for sharing your thoughts with us, but not in this channel please12:26
WolfInSheepskinwhere is the ubuntu chat channel=12:26
bgardner!ot | WolfInSheepskin12:26
ubottuWolfInSheepskin: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!12:26
ice9how to review release notes of an update before installing it?12:27
WolfInSheepskinok thx12:27
AlexPortablesudo mount -t udf /dev/sr0 /mnt12:27
AlexPortablemount: /dev/sr0: can't read superblock12:27
AlexPortablehow can i make it read anyway>?12:27
mmiller13If a file system is corrupted on a usb device and unable to mount can you still view that device? Or can you force mount?12:27
compdocubuntu has a long future. thats just stupid12:27
reversiblean_test12:27
renebarbosait has no future due to updates?12:27
renebarbosao_O12:27
k1ldont mind the trolls12:27
ObrienDavewow12:27
renebarbosak1l, really12:28
ObrienDave*must. not. feed. trolls*12:28
yecril71plHow can questions be made into bugs?12:29
cfhowlettrenebarbosa don't fall prey Fear Uncertainty and Doubt (FUD).12:29
fesefdoes anyone know why my ext4 partition/system won't boot when I add data=journal in fstab under Ubuntu 14.04 ? Regards.12:29
renebarbosafesef, you probably will need to enter in recovery mode and run tune2fs -o journal_data in that partition12:30
MonkeyDust!bug | yecril71pl12:31
ubottuyecril71pl: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.12:31
fesefrenebarbosa: oh, thank you.12:32
fesefrenebarbosa: i will try it out immediatelly.12:32
reversibleanDo you guys upgrade to upstream kernels or  use the default kernel. I'm not sure if I should upgrade or not.12:34
cfhowlettreversiblean default works just fine the majority of users.  If you're not sure you need it, you probably don't need it.12:35
mcdowell_exit12:35
ryadavhow to install sticky notes?12:37
renebarbosaryadav, apt-get Install xpad12:37
ryadavIts giving invalid operation install12:39
renebarbosasorry12:39
renebarbosatry apt-get install xpad12:39
AlexPortablemmiller13: no idea, it's a cd12:39
renebarbosanot "Install' with the first letter in upper case12:40
mmiller13It's a hd12:40
AlexPortablemmiller13: ?12:40
mmiller13I have a hard drive and the filesystem is not recognized; I get an error message: [ 1512.202655] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdc] Very big device. Trying to use READ CAPACITY(16).12:41
ryadavsorry but its giving12:41
ryadavE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)12:41
ryadavE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?12:41
cfhowlett!aptlock|ryadav12:41
ubotturyadav: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »12:41
AlexPortablemmiller13: sorry, thought you were replying to my question12:42
Piciryadav: cfhowlett: no, just use sudo apt-get install xpad12:42
mmiller13What was your question12:42
ryadavthanks pici.12:43
ryadavit works.12:43
Voyage is there a good screen recording sofware?12:45
yecril71plBug #1348621 reported12:45
ubottubug 1348621 in gnome-disk-utility (Ubuntu) "Available space is not shown" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134862112:45
MonkeyDustVoyage  recordmydesktop and byzanz12:48
ObrienDaveVoyage, http://www.getdeb.net/app/SimpleScreenRecorder12:48
magesingHi everyone, I have installed Unigraphics NX  7.5 on my system, and their support tells me I need to install version 319.32 of the NVIDIA driver for it to work properly... How can I install a specific nvidia driver on ubuntu?12:49
VoyageMonkeyDust,  any words about kazam?12:49
MonkeyDustVoyage  yes, that too is a screen recorder, try it, maybe you'll like it12:50
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MonkeyDustVoyage  try a few, then stick to the one you prefer12:50
reversibleanWhen and how new kernel updates are released on Ubuntu? Why trusty still use an old kernel instead of the latest stable linux kernel?12:51
MonkeyDust!latest | reversiblean here's why12:51
ubottureversiblean here's why: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.12:51
cfhowlett!sru12:51
ubottuStable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates12:51
reversibleanOK I will check it out.12:52
reversibleanBut what if the new kernel fix issues I was having.12:54
cfhowlettreversiblean compile and install from source.12:54
reversibleanI had already tested 3.14 trusty kernel and it fixed the problem. But I'm not sure if that kernel is compatible with the rest of the system and apps.12:56
adminewb(trusty/unity desktop) found and installed package indicator-multiload; now what?13:02
MonkeyDustadminewb  depends on what you are doing and what you want to achieve13:03
adminewbput some load indicators in the panel, what else?13:03
MonkeyDustadminewb  please stay plotie, we're not psychics13:04
MonkeyDustpolite*13:04
FuzzyWhirlpool///13:05
adminewbrhetorical questions=impolite, it appears13:05
FuzzyWhirlpoolsorry, guys.13:05
ObrienDaveooooo, detecting snarkiness ;P13:06
magesinghow can I do what the "Additional drivers" tool does from the command line?13:06
adminewbalready went to the launchpad home page, no docs to be found13:07
robairtMy chrome keeps crashing this morning =/13:07
jetharthanks Laif13:07
magesingI'm using the tool to mess with my video drivers... so I want to be able to reverse what it does without graphics just in-case it breakes em.13:07
robairthmm maybe because I was on page 53 of reddit13:09
adminewbI take it no one uses indicator-multiload13:10
adminewbare there better ways to achieve roughly the same thing?13:10
MonkeyDustadminewb  just installed it (in precise), looks nice13:11
MonkeyDustadminewb  what happens if you enter 'indicator-multiload' in a terminal?13:12
nvidiahi13:12
adminewbjust now, it appears to monitor just cpu in the panel13:13
hellyeahhey13:13
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MonkeyDustadminewb  ok, click on the icon > preferences > select what you want13:13
nvidiaI tried to install nvidia's driver from their website. All I have now is a black screen.13:13
hellyeahwhat does persistance stands for13:13
hellyeahi will do live usb and ask me about persistance?13:13
hellyeahwhat do i need to do?13:13
adminewbso then, this executable belongs in one's .profile or such like?13:13
Nikkolohey i have a question about cronjobs13:14
ObrienDavehellyeah, it's for storage on a USB drive13:14
Picihellyeah: If you want to save files on the usb and have them be there the next time you use it elsewhere.13:14
nvidiaI wasn't happy with nvidia-current-update since it's obsolete. Current version is 340, and the one that comes with ubuntu is 304 .. I mean, are you kidding me?13:14
adminewbI see, thanks13:14
Corey84is there currently or in the works a ubuntu version of kmod-wl  for broadcom13:14
hellyeahis it necessary to use that?13:14
Nikkoloif i run a command like "tar  -czf name.tar /home/custom/13:15
Nikkolowhere the tar is saved?13:15
hellyeahunder custom13:15
Corey84cd /filename13:15
Nikkolobut witg cronjob13:15
PiciNikkolo: likely in your user's home.  You should really provide an absolute path to the tar though.13:16
Corey84Nikkolo, tar -czf /home/custom && cd will put you there13:16
MonkeyDustNikkolo  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto#How_Anacron_is_Arranged13:16
ObrienDavehellyeah, if you don't need to store things on the USB, then no you don't need persistance13:16
Corey84using a downstream distro and having isssues with b43 &  bcmwl on anything pass 3.14 is canonical dropping support?13:17
Nikkoloso i need to put on cronjob command "tar -cfz name.tar /home/custom && cd" ?13:18
PiciNikkolo: do: tar -cfz /path/to/name.tar /home/custom13:19
FuzzyWhirlpoolver FuzzyWhirlpool13:19
digidoghey guys :-) does aynone know how to get rme firface UFX audio interface supported in latest 14.0413:19
magesingHow can I benchmark my systems opengl performance? I want to check if my video-card is playing nicely with the drivers I have installed for it13:19
adminewbnever heard of vala before, and installing the indicators applet didn't bring in boat loads of run time; someone have some overview reference stuff on vala?13:19
setzer22Hello13:21
MonkeyDustadminewb  if you don't know what it is or does, why do you want it?13:22
Nikkolopici with the code you wrote it will call the tar with folder name? "im pretty noob to ubuntu" i just started to use it :)13:22
setzer22Does anyone know how to install ubuntu without a desktop environment? I just want the kernel, the drivers, and of course the ubuntu repositories, but I want to build the "desktop environment" by myself with openbox13:22
adminewbfound a wikipedia entry, answered my own question re: vala13:22
iemHi there all, what just trying to reisntall unity* after what appears to be a good hosing from what was meant to be an atempt at install the lowlatancy kernel and now apt-get is telling me that I have some how created an imposiable situation by the way of un-met dependancies. Anyone got any ideas? And is install installing the lowlatacny Kernel usually meant to hose your desktop enviroment? And oh it's Ubuntu 14.04. Thanks for read13:22
PiciNikkolo: The first argument to tar -cfz is the location of the tar file you want to create. You can put any valid path in there.13:23
adminewbwhy, because I don't like to be gobsmacked randomly by something installed on my system I wasn't even aware of13:23
Nikkolooh i alyway did tar -czf name.tar, this make the tar in the current path im right? but if i do /custom2/name.tar it will create the tar T custom2 with name nMe.tar?13:25
krejsiI have ubuntu 14.04 desktop installation usb. How do I choose to use my preseed file?13:25
Nikkoloname.tar*13:25
Nikkoloty pici :) and ty to others for helping noobs like me :P13:26
MonkeyDustNikkolo  in time, you'll be helping others13:29
nvidiahow do I install the latest nvidia driver on ubuntu with apt-get? There's only version 304 or so available, latest is 340 and I need that since it fixes a bug13:31
nvidiatest.. can anyone see this?13:32
nith1210Yes we see this.13:32
nith1210nvidia: I recommend the xorg edgers PPA, which has 340 in it. It'll be less stable than the default though as it's basically where they're testing the newest stuff.13:33
nith1210nvidia: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa13:33
jellownvidia, Have you searched for a PPA for latest unstable version?13:33
nith1210nvidia: They do have the 340 driver there.13:33
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nvidiacan it be installed without getting autmated updates? I don't want it to update one day and destroy my system :D13:35
iemOkay I just tried apt-get install compiz* wow that's a lot of stuff!13:35
jeffreylevesqueWhen I start my machine I get 'Status: 0xc0000225'13:36
jeffreylevesque'Info: The boot selection failed because a required device is inaccessible'13:36
nith1210nvidia: The easiest way I know of to do that would be to install the ppa, install the driver, then disable the ppa.13:36
jeffreylevesquewrong channel13:36
jeffreylevesquesorry13:36
trijntjenvidia: just go to the ppa, download the deb manually and install it13:37
nvidiayaaay13:37
Corey84or sudo apt-get install nvidia-340-updates nvidia13:37
nith1210nvidia: If you download the deb's manually, you had better get all of the dependency's.13:37
niko/28/9013:38
nvidiaCorey84: ther aren't such a package13:38
trijntjenvidia: you still shouldn't do that though, one of the reasons linux is more secure then windows is that you get automatic updates for all software13:38
nvidiabut I can't stick with version 304 when 430 is out, that's madness :O13:38
nvidiaespecially when we're talking graphics drivers13:39
nith1210nvidia: actually it makes sense if you're after stability.13:39
Corey84apt-cache search nvidia-* then and find the latest you can use and install it nvidia keep in mind not always best to use bleeding edge drivers too early13:39
Corey84no kernel or wifi geeks in house i guess13:39
iemSo is there a magic command for reinstalling unity and all it's dependancies?13:40
Corey84try 331 nvidia13:40
Corey84that IS in the repos13:40
nvidiaCorey84: I suppose. thanks13:40
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Corey84or 33713:40
Corey84and you mean 340 right not 43013:41
trijntjeiem: what are you trying to do?13:41
nith1210iem: sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity13:41
Corey84^^13:41
nvidiaCorey84: is 337 isn't in the repo? :P (340, yeah)13:41
trijntjenith1210: does that also reinstall all dependencies?13:41
Corey84then 331 for sure then13:42
nith1210trijntje: it won't reinstall dependencies, but if something's broken it'll pull them down.13:42
nith1210trijntje: sorry, by broken, I mean missing13:42
Corey84or not fully installed/removed too13:43
nith1210Corey84: Not that I'll have the answer, but what was your question? I think I joined after it.13:43
freddeHello ! I got a little bit of a boot problem. I run win xp and installed first Mint 17 but then I wanted to try Ubuntu. So I am tripple booting and it works fine, but I don't have use for Mint so I want to uninstall it. How do I proceed ?13:43
nvidiaCorey84: 331-updates, any reason not to take that one instead of just 331 (without updates)?13:44
adminewbfredde, what is your boot loader?13:44
freddegrub13:44
iemCool nith1210, super cool13:44
iem:)!13:44
Corey84having issues gettign b43 to stick across reboots in 3.14+ kernels having to modprobe EVERY BOOT13:44
iemtrijntje: reinsatll unity13:45
trijntjeiem: but why? What problem do you have, and why do you thing reinstalling will fix it?13:45
adminewbfredde, for grub, seems you should be able to just remove its boot entries from grub's config, and then decommission all the disk partitions that are dedicated to Mint; make sense?13:46
Corey84fredde, find me in #linuxmint-help (same nick) thats easy and more mint related13:46
trijntjeadminewb: won't grub break? The grub files are on /boot on the mint partition, so if you remove those the pc won't be able to boot ubuntu13:46
nith1210Corey84: Sorry, they only thing I know if is if you have it blacklisted by accident in /etc/modprobe.d13:47
freddeW13:47
adminewbfredde, understood, maybe Corey84 has a more comprehensive answer13:47
guest-2XjFwJAfter upgrading to 14.04 I can no longer login. I get invalid login error.13:48
freddeyepp thanx anyway =)13:48
Corey84System:    Host linux-devbox Kernel 3.16.0-031600rc6-lowlatency x86_64 (64 bit gcc 4.6.3)13:48
Corey84           Desktop Xfce 4.11.6 (Gtk 2.24.23) dm mdm Distro Linux Mint 17 Qiana13:48
Corey84fredde, see you over on spotchat13:48
trijntjeguest-2XjFwJ: what is the exact error you get? Sounds like you forgot your password13:49
MonkeyDustguest-2XjFwJ  try this:   ctrl-alt F1 > enter password > sudo chown -R youruser:youruser /home/youruser13:49
guest-2XjFwJtrijntje, and MonkeyDust I didn't forget my password and I cannot login in via tty or ssh.13:49
Corey84its fine on 3.14 and no explicit changes unless its in the buildlog and i missed will check tho13:50
DerekKeyPLHi all. I'm new here, so hello :)13:50
shoerainCan I run something like `sudo service nginx log` (assuming nginx is an upstart service) to start tailing the log for upstart? Would be convenient over `tail -F /var/log/upstart/nginx.log` -- this is on ubuntu 12.0413:50
trijntjeguest-2XjFwJ: if you login via tty, don't use any capitals in your username13:50
MonkeyDustguest-2XjFwJ  then make sure your caps lock is not switched on13:50
MonkeyDusttrijntje  was faster :)13:51
nvidiacuda c++ is supported in just two nvidia-driver versions newer than the one that ubuntu provides D: .. or has anyone else used cuda c++ with the drivers from ubuntu's repo?13:51
guest-2XjFwJtrijntje, MonkeyDust I do not have caps lock enable and the exact error is login invalid.13:51
guest-2XjFwJI can log into my VPN which has the same password, so I know that my password is fine. trijntje MonkeyDust13:52
nvidiawait.. that's one version more even. 332 supports cuda, 331 is the one ubuntu supports :(13:53
guest-2XjFwJMonkeyDust, how would I chown using chroot and live disk?13:53
guest-2XjFwJuser id13:54
guest-2XjFwJuid:gid maybe?13:55
guest-2XjFwJand then I don't need chroot right?13:55
iemtrijntje: Errr after tring to install the lowlatacy kernel the desktop got hosed, so I guess I was just hoping to get some sort of desktop back some how13:55
trijntjeguest-2XjFwJ: thats weird, I get another error when I try to login with the worng password13:56
Corey84nvidia, its updated as 331 is a snapshot IIRC13:56
nith1210nvidia: have you tried the nvidia-cuda-dev package?13:56
loahow i can open samba folders in nautilus?13:56
Corey84nith1210, no dice in /etc/modprobe.d13:56
trijntjeiem: did you add a PPA or something? If not you should just switch back to a previous kernel and everything should be fine13:56
loai forgot this =/13:56
guest-2XjFwJso maybe the user doesn't exist trijntje13:56
Corey84connect to server option loa13:57
trijntjeloa: file -> connect to server13:57
nvidianith1210: I just heard about it :)13:57
Corey84same as you'd do for a VM loa13:57
nith1210nvidia: apt-cache search cuda13:57
loaCorey84, TriJetScud so i can't just hit ctrl+L and enter something like smb:\\192.168.0.1 ?13:57
loai remember such thing13:58
trijntjeloa: smb:\\ could work13:58
iemYeah I use a ppa or two but they were only meant to be for a few things but looks like unity stuff is in there as well13:58
cipher__can anyone recommend an alternative to dovecot, it is not complying with setup?13:58
trijntje!ppapurge13:58
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html13:58
Corey84dovecot is for ?13:58
cipher__mail13:59
guest-2XjFwJtrijntje, yep I am not in the passwd file13:59
MonkeyDustcipher__  is that a server? if yes, better ask in #ubuntu-server13:59
nith1210Corey84: What version of ubuntu are you using and do you have a blacklist entry for bcm43xxx? I find a note about b43 in my blacklist.conf.13:59
iemtrijntje: Maybe I turn off the ppa's before I run apt-get install --reinstall-unity?14:00
trijntjeguest-2XjFwJ: thats weird, and this happened after an upgrade?14:00
Corey84nith1210, trusty and that is foro the propreitary Not B43 (the o/s driver)14:00
guest-2XjFwJyes, do-release-upgrade trijntje14:01
Corey84if you read the line it says replaced BY b43 lol14:01
trijntjeiem: you have to purge the ppa's, that way it will remove all packages from those ppa. If you just disable them you wont get new updates, but you will keep the weird packages you got from the ppa14:01
nith1210Corey84: right, which might also mean that they conflict hense the blacklist on the older driver.14:01
Corey84release-upgrade ?14:01
DrecondiusI know the bcm divers don't work for my Wi-Fi adapter14:01
nith1210Corey84: do you have anything in dmesg about the driver?14:01
iemtrijntje: kay roger that, thanks!14:01
Corey84they do for me but i hate them14:01
DrecondiusIs it a Belkin f9l110114:02
liquidAngerhi all14:02
Corey84and niether one works post 3.14.12 on ubuntu kernels only my RPM boxes when using kmod-wl14:02
trijntjeguest-2XjFwJ: is there any user with UUID > 1000 in that file?14:02
trijntjeguest-2XjFwJ: in this column: cat /etc/passwd | cut -d ':' -f 314:03
guest-2XjFwJdesktopadmin but I don't have access to that trijntje14:03
trijntjeguest-2XjFwJ: is this your own PC, or is someone else the administrator?14:04
trijntje/owner/whatever14:04
guest-2XjFwJmaybe I will drop to root from recovery14:04
trijntjeguest-2XjFwJ: what is the output of ls /home14:04
trijntjeare your files still there?14:05
guest-2XjFwJtrijntje, I am using guest account so I can't ls /home14:05
guest-2XjFwJwhich is ironic since I can cat /etc/passwd trijntje14:05
Dom951italiani online?14:06
guest-2XjFwJtrijntje, the computer is my work computer, but this is a bank holiday so...14:06
nvidiawhy isn't nvidia 340 supported  by ubuntu (yet)?14:06
guest-2XjFwJDom951, l'inglessi solo14:06
serdem420hey guys, i installed apache2 with mod_python14:06
paulo_pls recommend a downloader, one with continue capablility14:06
serdem420but when i type url it shows the python code. it doesn't run it.14:07
trijntjeguest-2XjFwJ: hm, I dont think we can help you break into a computer that isn't yours. Sorry14:07
guest-2XjFwJtrijntje, it is my computer and I am not breaking in. Thanks for the help. I will just drop to root shell.14:07
Corey84nvidia, its buggy as hell thats why and again i warn of using newest drivers too early14:08
Corey84nvidia isnt known for thorough linux testing pre-release14:08
guest-2XjFwJI am stoked about people assuming you are both stupid and up to no good.14:08
nvidiaalrightey :)14:08
adminewbpaulo_, using here aria2c for some things, you have something particular in mind? gui? shell command?14:08
nvidiahow do I check what graphic driver I'm currently using?14:08
trijntjeguest-2XjFwJ: good luck. I trust your not trying to do something illegal, but your company might have suspended your account for some reasone we don't know about14:08
MonkeyDustCorey84  true, Thorvalds publicly gave 'the finger' to nvidia14:09
Corey84lol MonkeyDust and the NSA about selinux backdoors14:09
nvidiaMonkeyDust: I can understand why14:10
daftykinsnvidia: /var/log/Xorg.0.log will show what driver X settled on14:10
paulo_adminewb: shell is ok. Does it make multiple connections for faster speed?14:10
adminewbaria2c can do multiple ftp connections to any number of hosts, yes14:11
adminewbalso it does metalink and bittorrent14:11
RPRDoes anyone know how to tell Ubuntu to not hijack the Alt key for a the command window.  So many applications use the Alt key to do useful things, it makes no sense to me to have Ubuntu hijack it.14:13
adminewbRPR maybe you need to switch to another desktop? and not use unity14:14
trijntjeRPR: you have to use compizxconfig settings manager for that14:14
MonkeyDustRPR  that's one way of seeing it, you can alos say that the applications hijack it14:14
RPRMonkeyDust, seriously?  Depends on how old you are I guess.  The Alt key has been widely used, for I don't know years and years.14:15
brasileirohi everyone... I'm having waves of high CPU usage and fan activity especially when watching videos (fiefox flash videos, VLC, mplayer, you name it)... the thing is that firefox goes as high as 70% of CPU usage even thou I'm using optirun (bumblebee) to run it... my hardware is pretty good (intel i7, nvidia GT650M, 6gb DDR3) so it shouldn't be happening.. any ideas??14:15
clinhi, how do I setup a new font in .Xresources. I can run  xterm -fa "Monaco" -fs 12 and it opens new xterm with Monaco font. What should be there in .Xresources file to always use this font?14:16
krejsiI have ubuntu 14.04 desktop installation usb. How do I choose to use my preseed file when I boot with the USB? It just asks me to either try ubuntu or install ubuntu14:16
MonkeyDustRPR  true, but there's only a limited number of keys on a keyboard, some have double uses14:16
adminewb... so it occurs to me there's a related question: can trusty users each configure their own kind of DE, but still be able to switch between their graphical terminals with Ctrl-Alt-Fx?14:17
nvidiabrasileiro: you need hardware acceleration .. your CPU is doing what your GPU should be doing.14:18
brasileironvidia, but i'm already using bumblebee to open firefox... and using HTML5 to play the flash videos14:18
nvidiabrasileiro: sudo apt-get install nvidia-331-updates    and then sudo nvidia-xconfig and you're done14:18
nvidiabrasileiro: what's bumblebee?14:19
adminewb!optirun14:19
cfhowlett!info bumblebee14:19
ubottubumblebee (source: bumblebee): NVIDIA Optimus support for Linux. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.2.1-5 (trusty), package size 43 kB, installed size 231 kB (Only available for linux-any)14:19
kstengerhello, I'am trying to repair a broken usb which only holds the /boot partition with grub in it. I've followed all the instructions to chroot into my system as it should be, mounting every mountpoint, chrooting into it, then grub-install to the usb stick device, then update-grub. Everything goes out smoothly, but in the end, the only OS detected by grub is the Win7 I have at another partition of my harddrive, and not the linux one. Linux is installed into a14:19
Synchunkkty14:19
brasileironvidia, the project to run Optimus NVIDIA GPU14:19
brasileironvidia, like GT650M (mine)14:20
daftykinsi believe nvidia-prime is a more valid choice than bumblebee now14:20
brasileirodaftykins, i've heard it has some issues regarding hibernation... =/14:20
trijntjekstenger: your message got truncated, please split it up in smaller chunks. "Linux is installed into a.."14:21
daftykinsoh? proof's in the pudding14:21
mrgoodcatmy /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/hud/hud-service is pegging out my cpu at 97%. anybody have any idea what this is or what i can do about it?14:21
kstengerLinux is installed into an encrypted partition. Any idea on why this could be happening or what could I do for grub to realize about both OSs (or even only the linux one)14:21
kstengersorry14:21
nvidiaI have a nvidia gfx card.. should I install nvidia-prime?14:21
RPRMonkeyDust, Yes limited number of keys.  But Ubuntu didn't hijack "a" key.  They hijacked an entire Meta key of which there are far, far fewer, like what 3-4.   Anyway, it makes no sense.14:21
adminewbkstenger, could grub be missing a module that tells it about your partitioning scheme?14:23
mrgoodcatits also using more than 1GB of RAM14:23
adminewbor encryption, for that matter14:23
kstengeradminewb: I don't think so, since it was already working before the usb stick got broken, but how can I check?14:23
adminewbkstenger in what way is your usb stick broken14:24
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Corey84nvidia-prime IIRC is for multi-cards14:25
trijntjeRPR: like I said, you can control this behaviour with compizconfig settings manager14:25
wheatthinhmm when i change the background image in gnome-shell and try to switch to a different desktop window it shows the previous background image instead14:25
wheatthinthen I select the desktop number, and it goes to normal14:25
trijntjemrgoodcat: file a bug, kill the process14:25
kstengeradminewb: there was an update wich entered a loop state, didn't allow to cancel or anything, it was complaining about how grub was installed and it was not compatible with newer versions anymore (something about the MBR I think) (sorry to not be more precise at this point)14:26
kstengeradminewb: after this update grub didn't work anymore14:26
MonkeyDustRPR  or create a custom distro without hijacked key combination14:26
adminewbkstenger, so your usb drive has multiple MBR style partitions on it? or did14:27
brasileirodaftykins, gonna try nvidia-prime14:27
brasileirodaftykins, thanks for the help =)14:27
RPRtrijntje, Already did my 40 yrs of wandering in the desert of compizconfig looking for it to no avail.  However, it turns out under "Settings" "Keyboard" (now that was obvious) "Launchers"  I found it.14:27
trijntjeRPR: its in the unity plugin14:28
nvidiashould you install nvidia-prime if you have a nvidia card?14:28
kstengeradminewb: I don't know, I didn't do the original install, and this took me by surprise, I did a backup, but I don;t know how useful it could be14:29
kstengeradminewb: it should only have a single boot option for the linux OS I think (don;t know if this helps)14:29
RPRMonkeyDust, not a serious answer.  I'm suggesting the Unity Hud should use ONE key to pop it up.  Does that make sense to you?  Instead of hijacking 33% or 25% of ALL key combos to pop it up ... Just use ONE.  Say Alt-H.  Why does that not seem reasonable?14:30
MonkeyDustRPR  great idea! contact the appropriate people for it, on ubuntu.com14:30
kstengerwhere can I read about it adminewb?14:30
trijntjeRPR: the HUD only triggers when you TAP the alt key, not when you keep it pressed, like you would do for shortcuts in most programs14:31
adminewbkstenger: well it sounds as though this isn't a related issue for you, but my grub.cfg has "insmod" module load commands for such items as "part_gpt" so it can read partition tables on a gpt disk, say14:31
adminewbkstenger, there'd also be special modules associated with encrypted partition, I expect14:32
adminewbgrub docs are spread here and there, I'd have to google it14:32
kstengeradminewb: thanks for the hints. I'm just wondering why if the liveCD detects the encrypted partitions and all, let's you mount them etc, then the grub-install tool won't find them. but i'll google about it, thanks!14:33
adminewbsure14:34
RPRtrijntje, It should be the opposite.  i.e Assume the user knows how to type.  It should be a long hold (>1 sec) to pop the hub.  I use all 10 keys to type.  Ubuntu interprets my typing speed as a tap.14:35
Corey84kstenger, the issue with crypto drive14:35
kstengeradminewb: the modules you are talking about are of grub or kernel-wide?14:35
kstengerCorey84: yes?14:36
Corey84kstenger, mounting and installing grub to crypted drive?14:36
adminewbkstenger, those are grub modules I'm referring to not linux14:36
trijntjeRPR: I dont understand what you are saying. I never use the alt key except to open the HUD, what do you use it for, and in which programs?14:36
kstengerCorey84: no, the encrypted drive is in my harddrive, the usb stick is not encrypted14:36
Corey84if so are you using ecryptfs or cryptsetup14:36
kstengerthe usb stick holds /boot, the HD holds / etc.14:36
Corey84but you are putting grub where14:36
Corey84/boot CANT bee crypted on ubuntu14:37
RPRtrijntje, almost every program I know of has Alt key shortcuts.  Which ones do you use which don't leverage the Alt key?14:37
MonkeyDustRPR  apparentally, nobody uses the keyboard the way you do14:37
kstengergrub goes on /boot, on the stock, it's not encrypted14:37
kstengerstick14:37
Corey84the kernels lack the crypt read ahead modules14:37
ice9how to upgrade to 14.04.1 from 14.0414:38
Corey84grub to usb /boot only holds the boot info14:38
trijntjeRPR: can you give some examples? What kind of things can you do with the alt key that you cant do with the HUD?14:38
kstengerCorey84: yes, that's what i'm trying to recover14:38
trijntjeice9: thats automatic14:38
RPRFirefox, Chrome, Emacs, LibreXXX ...14:38
ActionParsnipice9: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist0upgrade14:38
Corey84ice9, you dont ---doid you mean 12.04 > 14.04 perhaps14:38
Beldarice9, it is done automatically with standard updates.14:38
ActionParsnipice9: its just a point release, they use the same repos. Its not a new ubuntu release14:39
Corey84nvm missed the .1 part14:39
ice9but it won't show 14.04.1 in lsb_release -a?14:39
ActionParsnipice9: why does it matter what that says?14:39
ActionParsnipice9: as long as you are fully updated from the Trusty repos, you are fine14:40
Corey84again its a point release lsb_release -a is for major releases IIRC14:40
ice9thanks all14:40
ice9got it14:40
trijntjeRPR: so what shortcut do you want to use in firefox that you cant use now? I've seriously never heard anyone with this problem before14:40
Corey84so you lost /boot on the usb ? and the hd is encrypted? kstenger14:41
kstengerCorey84: yes14:41
PiciUh... you will see 14.04.1 in lsb_release -a...14:41
RPRtrijntje, Have you ever tried to use the Alt key within any program / application?  Anyway just google "Unity Alt key disable"  and hear the voices.14:42
trijntjeRPR: no I haven't, thats why I am asking you to be explicit about what you are trying to do14:42
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Corey84mount the crypt (via live installer) as WELL as usb that will hold /boot and run a chrooted grub-install /dev/sdX (the usb) and then grub-install --recheck /dev/sdX (the  usb again ) and then update-grub14:42
Corey84to mount it you need to unlock it tho14:43
kstengeradminewb: Corey84: is this an option i should add to my grub-install command? --modules=dm-crypt14:43
Corey84no need if on 13.04+ its in the kernel already14:43
adminewbkstenger, my knowledge of grub-install options is too superficial14:44
Corey84hang tight ill give a cmd by cmd pastie14:44
kstengerCorey84: I did just as you said above, and the only detected OS is windows :(14:44
iaamHi there all now i am getting a unable to load session when trying to log into ubuntu (14.04)14:44
thegoatis there a way to bind nfs to a certain IP?14:45
kstengerCorey84:  I did   grub-install --recheck --boot-directory=/mnt/boot/ /dev/sdc    then   update-grub14:46
kstengerCorey84: I also tried  with --root-directory=/mnt instead14:46
kstengerboth same result14:46
WolfGeekI have a very strange problem across multiple 14.04LTS servers.  SSH via public key is failing with Permission Denied.  The auth.log shows that sshd can't open the authorized_keys files.  Permissions and ownership is absolutely correct.  Here's the kicker.  As soon as I do an 'ls -l' on the file or a 'stat' on the file, it starts working right away.  It keeps working for some length of time (haven't measured it exactly yet) and then st14:46
Corey84is it lvm by chance14:46
WolfGeekany clues?14:46
kstengerCorey84: I think so, yes14:47
trijntjeWolfGeek: your message was too long and got truncated. please split it up14:47
Corey84you never mounted /dev then hang on pastie on the way14:47
kstengeryes, i did mount it on /mnt/boot14:47
ice9how do I reset Ubuntu's repositories?14:47
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trijntjeice9: do you mean remove PPA's you added?14:48
trijntje!ppapurge14:48
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html14:48
kstengerCorey84: I also tried re-creating my whole directory structure into mnt and chrooting into it14:48
WolfGeekI have a very strange problem across multiple 14.04LTS servers.14:48
WolfGeekSSH via public key is failing with Permission Denied.14:49
ice9trijntje: remove every thing and set the original repos that are defined in fresh intallation14:49
WolfGeekThe auth.log shows that sshd can't open the authorized_keys files.14:49
trijntjeWolfGeek: wo got till "measured it exactly yet) and then st"14:49
WolfGeekPermissions and ownership is absolutely correct.14:49
Corey84kstenger,  try this and report any errors http://pastie.org/942031414:49
Corey84openssh-server installed?14:49
WolfGeekHere's the kicker.  As soon as I do an 'ls -l' on the file or a 'stat' on the file, it starts working right away.14:49
Corey84WolfGeek, ^^14:49
WolfGeekIt keeps working for some length of time (haven't measured it exactly yet) and then stops again with the same problem.14:49
ActionParsnipWolfGeek: do you have read access to ~/.ssh on the server ?14:49
WolfGeeksorry14:49
WolfGeekyes,14:49
trijntjeice9: that depends, if you only added ppa's you can remove them all using ppapurge. If you did something else there is no easy way to fix it as far as I know14:50
Beldarice9, run this command given to you earlier than check again, sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade14:50
ActionParsnipWolfGeek: have you used:    ssh -v user@server14:50
ActionParsnipWolfGeek: is the ssh server running on the server? it's not installed by default14:50
kstengerCorey84: cp /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/etc/resolv.conf  <--- this is something I never did, trying now14:51
kstengerCorey84: the /mnt/mapper ... devices where already mounted by the liveCD, do you think i need to remount them as you do in the pastie?14:52
WolfGeekyes, I've done ssh -v, ssh is running, openssh is installed.  Let me say again, as soon as I do an 'ls' on the authorized_keys file, I can ssh in using my key successfully.  ssh is working....14:52
WolfGeekbasically ssh is getting a permission denied on the file UNTIL I force the OS to stat the file.  Then it works fine.  Very strange problem.14:54
jhutchinsWhat init system does 12.04 use?14:55
jhutchinsIs that upstart or systemd?14:55
ljunggrenge14:55
ljunggrenjaeg14:56
WolfGeekAnyone?  I've been fighting this for 2 days now.  I could really use some help....14:57
jhutchinsWolfGeek: Anything unusual about the filesystem?  Straight ext3/4 or LVM or what?14:58
stan_man_canThe name of my database changed so I’m trying to do a bulk update in all my websites. I’ve tried “find /var/www/hosting/www -type f -exec sed - ‘/s/mysql_select_db\(\”table1\”\)/mysql_select_db\(\”table2\”\)/g’ {} \; and it’s nt working, no errors14:59
WolfGeekjhutchins: straight ext414:59
ActionParsnipWolfGeek: i'd delete ~/.ssh on the server then scp a fresh copy over and start from scratch14:59
WolfGeekActionParsnip:  I'll try that.  It's doing the same thing for multiple users.  However their  ~/.ssh was setup by puppet, so maybe something strange there.  Although I never had this problem with 12.04LTS15:00
Corey84kstenger, i was afk sorry15:02
Corey84first part is so you have  a dns resolver file15:02
Corey84the live usb shouldnt have mounted crypted drive parts15:02
Corey84unless possibly it was merely lvm'ed not encrypted as you thought15:03
Corey84a lsblk paste once n=mounted work help15:03
kstengerCorey84: np, I think this actually doesn't differ from what I've done before, except for mounting the partitions by hand instead of relying on the ubuntu liveCD (which does it wonderfully) and copying the resolv.conf file15:04
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Corey84for crypto the installer blows tbh15:04
kstengerCorey84: but since I'm inside the shell over the actual root partition, the cp is meaningless15:04
kstengertbh?15:04
Corey84try apt update without it and tell me its meaningless15:05
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Corey84youll get dns not found errors out your tail end15:05
Corey84tbh = to be honest15:05
SchrodingersScat0sRLGFJTDpjM5/vMM9qvH/15:05
kstengeri mean the file is the same, because / is the same partition as /mnt :)15:06
kstengerthe live cd allowed me into a shell over the sda root partition15:06
Corey84its still only in memory unless you have fully booted it at least once already15:06
kstengerok, but how will the cp change anything if the partition is just mounted twice, once in / and another in /mnt15:07
Corey84do you see ONLY ubuntu ~#/  at the shell  and does running ls from right there give you the default bin etc dev folders ? if not the sheell is merely an illusion15:08
k9-can someone help em to crack a Wordpress hash?15:08
Corey84the install in in /mnt (which presently has no resolv.conf) until first run is activated15:08
k9-can someone help em to crack a Wordpress hash?15:08
cfhowlettk9- we don't do cracking here.15:09
Corey84^^15:09
MonkeyDustk9-  how legal is that?15:09
k9-Not legal15:09
MonkeyDustk9-  ask in the NSA channel, they have specialists15:09
cfhowlettk9- then absolutely unsupported in this channel.15:09
Corey84try #blackterminal or #pentesting  if you must but its OFFTOPIC here15:09
MoonSlimejust a quick question = (14.04/Laptop) under 'Details' it states Graphics Intel Sandybridge Mobile, and under 'Additional Drivers' Whistler HD 6730M Using X.Org X server? am i using the ATI card?15:10
k9-MonkeyDust, channel is unavailable?15:10
Corey84MoonSlime, use inxi -Gxx to get that info for sure install inxi if need be15:10
MoonSlimethanks Corey8415:11
Corey84i.e.15:11
MonkeyDustk9-  then you're out of luck! don't ask again here15:11
Corey84Graphics:  Card Intel Mobile 4 Series Integrated Graphics Controller bus-ID 00:02.0 chip-ID 8086:2a4215:11
Corey84           Display Server X.Org 1.15.1 drivers intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution 1280x800@60.0hz15:11
Corey84           GLX Renderer Mesa DRI Mobile Intel GM45 Express15:11
Corey84           GLX Version 2.1 Mesa 10.1.3 Direct Rendering Yes15:11
DarkAceXtremehow do I find my monitor device name?15:11
Corey84MoonSlime,  that was /exec -o inxi -Gxx in hexchat to display here btw15:11
Corey84lspci or lsusb should give it15:12
Corey84or also lshw or hardinfo (needs installed first tho)15:12
MoonSlimelearn something new every day here thanks again Corey8415:12
Corey84np15:12
Corey84being in 166 channels has its benies lol15:13
MoonSlimeim in 215:13
Corey847 servers and 166 here lol used to be much more15:14
kstengerCorey84: I'll be back in an hour or so will be afk in the meantime, I'm sure testing step by step your guide, if you are still here i'll report back to you, thank you so much for your time15:16
MoonSlime22:16:55 libtorsocks(4627): WARNING: The symbol res_query() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!15:16
MoonSlime  Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_query() with the reported error: Not Found15:16
MoonSlime22:16:55 libtorsocks(4627): WARNING: The symbol res_search() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!15:17
MoonSlime  Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_search() with the reported error: Not Found15:17
MoonSlime22:16:55 libtorsocks(4627): WARNING: The symbol res_send() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!15:17
MoonSlime  Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_send() with the reported error: Not Found15:17
MoonSlime22:16:55 libtorsocks(4627): WARNING: The symbol res_querydomain() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!15:17
MoonSlime  Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_querydomain() with the reported error: Not Found15:17
MoonSlime22:16:55 libtorsocks(4628): WARNING: The symbol res_query() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!15:17
MoonSlime  Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_query() with the reported error: Not Found15:17
MoonSlime22:16:55 libtorsocks(4628): WARNING: The symbol res_search() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!15:17
MoonSlime  Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_search() with the reported error: Not Found15:17
MoonSlime22:16:55 libtorsocks(4628): WARNING: The symbol res_send() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!15:17
MoonSlime  Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_send() with the reported error: Not Found15:17
MoonSlime22:16:55 libtorsocks(4628): WARNING: The symbol res_querydomain() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!15:17
MonkeyDust!paste | MoonSlime15:17
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MoonSlime  Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_querydomain() with the reported error: Not Found15:17
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MoonSlime22:16:55 libtorsocks(4628): WARNING: The symbol res_query() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!15:17
MoonSlime  Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_query() with the reported error: Not Found15:17
MoonSlime22:16:55 libtorsocks(4628): WARNING: The symbol res_search() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!15:17
stan_man_canlol15:17
MoonSlime  Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_search() with the reported error: Not Found15:17
MoonSlime22:16:55 libtorsocks(4628): WARNING: The symbol res_send() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!15:17
MoonSlime  Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_send() with the reported error: Not Found15:17
MoonSlime22:16:55 libtorsocks(4628): WARNING: The symbol res_querydomain() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!15:18
MoonSlime  Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_querydomain() with the reported error: Not Found15:18
MoonSlime22:16:55 libtorsocks(4629): WARNING: The symbol res_query() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!15:18
MoonSlime  Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_query() with the reported error: Not Found15:18
Busserlthank you MoonSlime15:18
MoonSlime22:16:55 libtorsocks(4629): WARNING: The symbol res_search() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!15:18
MoonSlime  Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_search() with the reported error: Not Found15:18
MoonSlime22:16:55 libtorsocks(4629): WARNING: The symbol res_send() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!15:18
MoonSlime  Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_send() with the reported error: Not Found15:18
MoonSlime22:16:55 libtorsocks(4629): WARNING: The symbol res_querydomain() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!15:18
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MoonSlime  Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_querydomain() with the reported error: Not Found15:18
MoonSlime22:16:55 libtorsocks(4630): WARNING: The symbol res_query() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!15:18
MoonSlime  Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_query() with the reported error: Not Found15:18
MoonSlime22:16:55 libtorsocks(4630): WARNING: The symbol res_search() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!15:18
MoonSlime  Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_search() with the reported error: Not Found15:18
Corey84wish more channels had that in a bot command15:20
phunyguyour paste bot is broken it seems15:20
phunyguy(I am not a bot)15:21
phunyguyor did you mean the ops trigger?15:21
Corey84im meant ubottu lol15:21
phunyguyahh.  carry on then. :)15:21
Urchinis it possible to go from 12.04 to 14.04 directly?15:23
ActionParsnipUrchin: yes15:23
phunyguyUrchin: sudo do-release-upgrade15:23
phunyguy(do you still need the -d option?)15:23
ActionParsnipUrchin: LTS to LTS upgrades are supported15:23
ActionParsnipphunyguy: -d is the (d)ev release, which is utopic (Ubuntu 12.10)15:23
ActionParsnipoops 14.1015:23
Urchinbut I can't find the option to do so15:24
phunyguyActionParsnip: yes that wasn't true for 12.04 though.  The dev release for 12.04 is 14.04 until 14.04.1 which was released this week.15:24
phunyguythe upgrade path to 14.04 was considered "dev" until then15:24
ActionParsnipphunyguy: until it goes to the first point release, the -d option is needed. When it went to 14.04.1 it will be offered15:24
cfhowlettUrchin upgrade manager settings : Long Term Support release15:24
phunyguyActionParsnip: exactly.15:25
ActionParsnipphunyguy: and its 14.04.1 now, so -d isnt needed15:25
phunyguythat was what I asked.15:25
ActionParsnipphunyguy: ahh i see, wel....answer :)15:25
ActionParsnipanswered15:25
TJ-phunyguy: ActionParsnip: The default 12.04 > 14.04.1 release upgrade isn't yet available... not until Trusty is added to http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts15:26
phunyguyAnd there we go.15:26
phunyguyThanks TJ-15:26
ActionParsnipoh, my mistake15:26
phunyguyso you still need the -d option for do-release-upgrade to get to 14.0415:26
Urchinit's already set to upgrade to LTS15:26
TJ-phunyguy: It *is* available in proposed though, as per http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts-proposed15:26
Urchinbut I can't find the upgrade to the next lts15:26
ActionParsnipTJ-: tbh, I always clean install. Upgrades can be so messy15:26
TJ-phunyguy: No, you want --proposed if you can't wait :)15:27
cfhowlettTJ- agreed - clean install has been way less painful15:27
phunyguyTJ-: pretty sure -p option uses the proposed version of the updater, not the dev release15:27
phunyguyTJ-: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man8/do-release-upgrade.8.html  -> -d, --devel-release - Check if upgrading to the latest devel release is possible15:28
TJ-Upgrades depend on the complexity of the configuration. May be OK for simpler configurations but if you've got a lot of customisation the Debian installer scripts have been written to take care of those - that's why Ubuntu focuses on LTS > LTS upgrade support only (besides release A > B), otherwise we'd need scripts for every combination.15:29
TJ-phunyguy: Yes... and the devel release currently is Utopic15:29
phunyguyTJ-: that half-true15:29
phunyguyTJ-: the dev release as far as 12.04 is concerned, is 14.0415:29
TJ-phunyguy: The --devel release meta is at http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-development15:30
suriyaHi15:30
TJ-phunyguy: I was reading the source code earlier in UpdateManager.MetaReleaseCore to figure all this out, since we're getting a *lot* of questions about it since Adam Conrad published the announcement in the early hours15:31
phunyguyTJ-: oh yeah?  I actually tested the scenarios.15:32
bulliconhow can you tell if a distro has been patched?15:32
phunyguysat down with ikonia and did it.15:32
bulliconif ubuntu has been patched15:32
bulliconor its a fresh install15:33
phunyguybullicon: load the update manager and see what is pending...15:33
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bulliconits a server15:33
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phunyguybullicon: so run `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -s"15:35
Urchinhow much trouble should I expect with the update if the current install is so large that I don't even know what I have any more15:35
phunyguyto see what is missing15:35
bulliconphunyguy ta15:35
phunyguyUrchin: backup your important stuff.... then run the upgrade.  If it fails, install fresh and restore your backups.15:35
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Urchinbtw, last time I did this, I had stuff falling apart during upgrade, are there any special caveats about X or window managers?15:37
phunyguyUrchin: I wish I could be more help.... you will just have to try and see.  Just make sure your backups are solid.15:38
Urchinok15:38
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UrchinI've tried do-release-upgrade sandbox and found that it complained about the filesystem (I'm running XFS), is it still supported as usual?15:40
phunyguyTJ-: it turns out we were both right http://paste.ubuntu.com/7856744/15:40
phunyguythat is on a 12.04 box15:41
daftykinsit'll work straight off soon though, right?15:41
daftykinsand start appearing in MOTDs?15:41
ragabash?15:41
phunyguyTJ-: in this scenario, the updater is in "proposed" state, which points to the new release.  When 14.04 was first released, this was not the case, and the -d option was required.15:42
phunyguyTJ-: so maybe you were more correct, as perhaps the -p option uses a newer version of the updater... but I am not sure there.15:42
phunyguydaftykins: yes very soon.15:43
ragabasho que é exatamente este programa?15:43
daftykinsbut we should still tell people not to run it with -d, right?15:44
phunyguy!es | ragabash15:44
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phunyguydaftykins: I think they both accomplish the same thing15:44
Urchinwait, did point release for 14.04 come or not?15:44
phunyguyUrchin: yes.15:44
daftykinsphunyguy: would there not come a time where someone running with -d on 12.04 would take them to 14.10?15:44
TJ-phunyguy: I'm going by the code on a 12.04 server... they start off with the base URLs for normal and LTS, and then add on "-proposed" or "-development" suffixes in order to fetch the currently valid lists, then those are filters by "Date:" field so only valid entries have dates > than current_date15:44
phunyguyUrchin: I think the next round of updates should make 14.04 the stable upgrade path.15:44
phunyguydaftykins: no as the next step would be 14.04 regardless15:45
pahow bad is it to symlink /etc/sudoers ?15:45
daftykinsphunyguy: sounds like i need to stop telling people off for advising to run with -d then :O15:45
MonkeyDustpa  to where?15:46
pato somewhere else where there's a custom sudoers file15:46
phunyguydaftykins: it is a very weird subject15:46
cdmsnI do some operations in a bash script with sudo and it works fine.. the next minute I get: sudo: unknown user: vagrant sudo: unable to initialize policy plugin. Any thoughts on this?15:47
phunyguydaftykins: These things are commonly confused... but there are specific supported upgrade paths.  The only time it would skip releases, is if an intermediate release was no longer supported.  For example, when 12.10 was still supported and 13.04 wasn't... you went directly from 12.10 to 13.10... but before that you would need 13.04 first.15:47
ljunggrenHi, is there a known bug of the installer? I have had all previous versions of Ubuntu installed fine but this 14.04 just hangs at first step after pressing "next" when there is checks for internet connection etc . Can someone help me?15:48
phunyguydaftykins: with that being said, there would be no "dev" release as far as 12.04 is concerned.... it would /only/ care about 14.0415:48
daftykinsphunyguy: ah ok, thanks for the info :)15:49
phunyguyikonia and I sat down in -ops and hashed this out when 14.04 was released.15:49
daftykinsi figured things are pretty different once 14.04.1 is out15:50
phunyguybut now you peaked my interest.  I am going to set up a test VM with 12.04.4, and when 14.04 upgrade path becomes stable, I will test these theories.15:50
phunyguybut I am 99.9999% sure that it will still want 14.04 first.15:50
ActionParsnipljunggren: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?15:51
ljunggrenYeah it's right15:51
TJ-phunyguy: the output you showed could display a bug :) The UpdateManager.MetaReleaseCore.__init() by default sets the suffixes for Proposed and Development to "-development", then reads the config file "/etc/update-manager/meta-release" to override those, which *should*  correct the "-proposed" entry15:51
ActionParsnipljunggren: are you using USB or CD?15:51
ljunggrenIt works now after letting it sit 35 minutes . Too long lol. It's USB . ActionParsnip15:51
phunyguyTJ-: hmm? so which one is incorrect?15:52
ActionParsnipljunggren: weird, could try without web access. I always do. Get the OS installed then update15:52
ljunggrenIve tried several times and waited 15 minutes - 20 minutes each time15:52
ljunggrenYeah thanks anyway! Have a good day15:52
Urchinphunyguy: when's the upgrade path due to become stable?15:52
phunyguyUrchin: I don't have specifics.15:52
cfhowlettUrchin you can torrent the ISO and set it as the software source then upgrade from there15:53
phunyguycfhowlett: or use the updater with the -p or -d option...15:53
TJ-phunyguy: It's damned confusing. If you're going to do a test, copy the current meta-release* files from the server and host them on your own HTTP server, and customise the test VM "/etc/update-manager/meta-release" to point to them... otherwise the Ubuntu files might change whilst you are testing :)15:54
Urchincfhowlett: that's not what I want, and besides, it would lack all the software I have15:55
fALSOWhere can I get support about Ubuntu's g++/linker ?15:55
fALSOIn the latest Ubuntu version... it seems that to link against some lib15:55
fALSOyou need to put it at the end of the g++ command line15:55
paulo_what is the latest trusty kernel?15:55
fALSOthis is very WEIRD15:55
UrchinfALSO: are you a beginner?15:56
fALSOnop15:56
fALSOI know what I am doing...15:56
fALSOJust tried the same with debian and works correctly15:56
fALSOif you do for examploe15:56
fALSOg++ -lcrypt bleh.c -o bleh15:56
TJ-fALSO: Could you please combine your comments into single lines rather than hitting Enter after each sub-sentence, thank you :)15:56
fALSOit givens undefined symbols to 'crypt'15:56
fALSOif you do15:56
fALSOg++ bleh.c -o bleh -lcrypt15:56
MonkeyDustfALSO  don't abuse the enter key, it has rights too15:57
fALSOit builds... but the binary isnt OK15:57
fALSOOK... SORRY15:57
TJ-fALSO: GNU gcc g++ changed the ordering of libraries ages ago - the library list should come *after* the compilation unit15:57
fALSOwhat do you mean by AGES ago ?15:57
UrchinfALSO: they may have started actually using standards, libs go at the end (at least they did in C)15:57
fALSOjust tried it on the LATEST debian and it still works15:57
walkerppHi all. I had two partition one was windows and another ubuntu. I reinstalled windows and it has overwritten ubuntu's bootloader. How do I make in recognise the Ubuntu partition again? Thank you15:57
fALSOgcc version 4.7.2 (Debian 4.7.2-5)15:58
fALSO16:48 <@fALSO> no debian ainda nao foderam o gcc pelos vistos15:58
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ubottuwalkerpp: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub215:58
cfhowlettwalkerpp you need to reinstall grub215:58
UrchinfALSO: latest debian will be older15:58
fALSOOk... but that change BREAKS "A TON" of packages15:58
fALSOand also putting it at the end is linking but the binary isnt OK15:58
TJ-fALSO: see "-l library" of https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Link-Options.html#Link-Options15:58
walkerppcfhowlett: is grub2 dependable?15:59
TJ-fALSO: show us a pastebin of the output that is incorrect15:59
phunyguyTJ-: I don't want to mess with those files.  I want to test what the user sees.15:59
UrchinfALSO: putting it at the end is the standard, gcc allowing them to be put at the beginning was a mistake, if you fell for it, tough15:59
walkerppwalkerpp: I am using ubuntu 14.04 though15:59
fALSOMe and probably a TON of open source packages16:00
fALSOThat wont build now...16:00
cfhowlettwalkerpp and 14.04 uses grub2.  reinstall16:00
TJ-phunyguy: My point is, if you do multiple tests, and the Ubuntu server meta-release-lts is updated on the live server, you may see different results on different test runs and not realise the test is based on different inputs16:00
walkerppcfhowlett: aha, so I should make a ubuntu14.04 live usb and do a boot repair?16:01
phunyguyTJ-: I was talking more just a general test on what happens when the upgrade path to 14.04 goes stable, and you still pass the -d option.16:01
cfhowlettwalkerpp exactomundo16:01
TJ-phunyguy: Ahhh, I thought you meant whilst we're in limbo ... since this is an edge-case the update-manager devs don't seem to have covered, and could lead to unexpected results/tears16:02
phunyguyTJ-: well that is why it is the dev version.  It's not ready until it's ready. :)16:02
walkerppcfhowlett: I wish there was some way I can get it running without downloading ubuntu again16:02
cfhowlettwalkerpp USB's are cheap.  one should always have a live ubuntu USB within reach.16:04
TJ-phunyguy: I think when the upgrader is only considering LTS releases, it also checks the "Supported:" field. If that is false (0) it'll ignore the release, which explains your "-d" output... Utopic is in the -development list but has "Supported: 0"16:04
walkerppcfhowlett: going to use this for time being http://www.ubuntugeek.com/use-the-windows-bootloader-to-dual-boot-windows-vista-and-ubuntu.html16:05
walkerpphope this works16:05
phunyguyTJ-: I think it does that regardless of LTS16:05
UrchinfALSO: bottom line is, it's unintuitive but correct behavior, fix your packages16:05
fALSOi changed the linking to the end... but the package doesnt work correctly after it16:06
phunyguyTJ-: afaict it looks for supported: 1 on any release, and will go to the next supported version... not the latest supported.16:06
fALSOit seems that there is also a problem with -lcrypt on Ubuntu16:06
phunyguyif there is no more with 1, it does to the next dev version.  So in either case, it will still go to 14.04 fierst.16:06
phunyguyfirst*16:06
UrchinfALSO: that's Ubuntu 14.04, right?16:07
fALSOyes urchin16:07
phunyguyTJ-: when 14.10 becomes stable, the upgrade path from 12.04 to 14.01 would still be 12.04 -> 14.04 -> 14.10 if you so choose.16:08
phunyguy14.10***16:08
phunyguyadding the -d option beforehand will not change that 14.04 intermediate step.16:09
TJ-phunyguy: MetaReleaseCore.parse() reads all the possible releases into 'dists' then locates itself in that list as 'current_dist', then it looks for the first release with a date > 'current_dist.date'. So, yes, 12.04's first >date will always be Trusty16:12
TJ-phunyguy: I missed the 'break' on >date in the loop that tests the dates which, if missing, would take it on to the last entry in the meta-release* file16:13
phunyguyTJ-: I ran another small test.  Interestingly enough, if you are prompting to install any version instead of LTS.... it wants to go to 12.10.  Even adding the -d or -p option does that16:14
brasileirohi, if anyone can help me, I'm having a lag problem on my Ubuntu 14.04 that seems a lot like the problem described here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1439861 I'm the author of the second post..16:15
TJ-phunyguy: that makes sense based on http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-{development,proposed}16:15
phunyguyTJ-: so adding the -d option after 14.04 path becomes stable... is harmless.16:16
phunyguydaftykins: ^16:16
walterppwill this work for me http://sourceforge.net/projects/boot-repair-cd/files/ ?16:16
walterpprepairing the grub216:16
TJ-phunyguy: Could be argued to be a bug in the code though since it certainly isn't the user's intention :)16:16
phunyguyTJ-: well if the user has it set to "any" release and hasn't upgraded yet.... they have bigger issues anyway ;)16:16
cfhowlettwalterpp it's on sourceforuge NOT from ubuntu.  do the math.16:16
phunyguyI just wanted to test that16:17
anonymous___Hello Everyone16:17
Urchin[emacs]I'm still mulling over weather I want to do the upgrade via command line or trough gui (and which gui), any suggestions?16:17
TJ-phunyguy: I assume it is taking some time to get all the mirrors updated before the meta-release-lts files are updated16:17
walterppcfhowlett: lol, that doesn't make sense it's here too https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair16:17
phunyguyTJ-: I don't think they will be.  If you look, even warty is still in there16:18
pseudoi need a bridge-start script to run before openvpn on startup - what is the best way to acieve this behavior with ubuntu's init system? /etc/default/openvpn /etc/init.d/openvpn - if i edit these files, will an apt-get upgrade overwrite them. is there a better way to do this?16:18
cfhowlettUrchin[emacs] same outcome.  do what you're comfortable with16:19
phunyguyTJ-: once the release is moved to old-releases, which is probably where 12.10 is, that upgrade path is no longer valid. which is why I said, if you have it set to any, and haven't upgraded yet, you will have bigger issues16:19
TJ-phunyguy: The files always extend, they don't get truncated. Tests may be run from old-releases, for example. But, for the upgrades not to break for *everyone* every mirror will need to ensure it has the 14.04.1 packages and lists16:19
phunyguyoh yes, that makes sense.16:20
Urchin[emacs]cfhowlett: last time I did it, I did it in gui, and most of the environment *died* during the upgrade, I want to be sure that screen continues running troughout (if I use screen, or should I use straight xterm, or maybe just one of the virtual terminals)16:22
cfhowlettUrchin[emacs] running it from CLI will free up your gui for other things16:22
gregmarkDoes anybody know where I can find a raring ringtail (13.04) repo that I can mirror? It's disappeared from the official mirrors.16:24
cfhowlett!archives|gregmark16:24
cfhowlett!archive16:24
gregmarkcfhowlett: gone!16:24
MagentiumGood Evening, Morning, Night, or Afternoon to everyone from Australia!16:25
gregmarkhttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/16:25
gregmarksee for yourself, no raring16:25
cfhowlettgregmark it'll be in the oldreleases.ubuntu.com archives (or something similar) though why you'd want a no longer supported version ...16:25
Urchin[emacs]cfhowlett: I don't expect things working well in gui from the experience of upgrading from 10.04 to 12.0416:25
phunyguy!oldreleases16:25
TJ-gregmark: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/16:25
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cfhowlett!cookie|TJ-16:25
ubottuTJ-: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!16:25
gregmarkTJ: thanks16:25
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paulo_what is trusty's current kernel?16:25
compdocwe dont allow cookies in here16:25
phunyguygregmark: you will have to manually edit the repos16:25
compdocLinux 3.13.0-32-generic #57-Ubuntu16:26
phunyguyTJ-: well played :)16:26
gregmarkphunyguy: you mean the sources.list or are you talking about something else?16:26
phunyguygregmark: if that is what you are asking about, yes16:26
TJ-gregmark: something like "sudo sed -i 's,http://.*archive\.ubuntu,http://old-releases.ubuntu,' /etc/apt/sources.list"16:28
MagentiumWhat are we trying to do?16:28
MRMEhello my laptop have 12 gb ram and 1500gb how do you suggest me partitioning it /16:36
MRMEvar16:36
MRMEvar16:37
loctauxphilippeMRME, One partition for Ubuntu!16:37
MRME/boot/home/tmp/ usrvar /srv /opt   /usr/local16:37
loctauxphilippeMRME, And noting else!16:37
MRMEhow much gb do i give those directories16:37
MRMEbtw the laptop contains 2 hd 750 +75016:38
loctauxphilippeMRME, Just let the Ubuntu installer do his work...16:38
MRMEdidn't work well with the 2 hdd16:38
MRMEthe other hd stayed ntfs ;)16:38
MRMEso i had to do it manually16:39
MRMEany suggestions ?16:39
daftykinsloctauxphilippe: please don't give bad advice.16:39
OerHeksMRME, let the ubuntu installer partition the free space, that will do16:39
TJ-MRME: do you want the disks to be RAID-1 mirrors?16:40
MRMEnop16:40
MRMEi don't really know what does that meen16:40
MRMEi want to use it as a personal laptop and ill use some virtual machines16:41
TJ-MRME:  it means both disks have identical images, so if one fails the system can continue operations as normal until the failed disk is replaced16:41
MRME12 gb ram ? how much do i need to the swap16:41
genoobieokay, stupid question, I am trying to run minecraft for my kid16:41
MRMEno16:41
genoobiewhen I use the Xorg driver, all seems OK, when I use the nVidia driver, cannot init gxl16:41
TJ-MRME: If the system is intended to hibernate, You'd want at least 12.5GB of swap16:41
MRMEcool16:42
MRMEwhat about the root directory ? how many gb??16:42
MRMEi have 1500 750+75016:42
genoobieTJ-, still couldn't figure out why the wireless started working :/16:42
TJ-MRME: if there is a chance you might upgrade the RAM later, you might want to allocate more to swap now16:42
TJ-genoobie: As long as it is still working reliably now!16:42
genoobieyeah, but god forbid I reinstall16:42
MRMEcool ill give it 3216:42
TJ-genoobie: I did wonder - after you'd gone - if the NIC was stuck in ad-hoc mode rather than managed. That'd explain why scans didn't report anything16:43
TJ-genoobie: and the boot to 3.0 cleared that state16:43
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MRMEwhat about those /boot/home/tmp/ usrvar /srv /opt   /usr/local  directories how much should i should i assign to them16:43
genoobieTJ-, perhaps16:43
Guest52705what a fuck...16:43
genoobienot sure if that was the fix16:44
genoobiethe drop in enumeration occurred at the same time16:44
TJ-MRME with that amount of disk space you might be better off doing an LVM install, that way you can expand volumes later if you need to without running into partitioning limits16:44
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MRMETJ- do you suggest any tutioral or article for LVM install or do i do my own searches ?16:46
cfhowlett!lvm16:46
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto16:46
kstengerCorey84: I'm back sorry for the delay, back to the grub-on-a-stick thing, I just followed your steps. update-grub complains with: /var/lock/lvm: mkdir failed No such file or directory File-based locking initialization failed.    (also i saw the /var/lock directory is empty, maybe I should mount it before chrooting?)16:47
MRMEubottu thanks16:48
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)16:48
MRMEubottu i can't believe it haha16:48
ubottuMRME: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:48
Corey84kstenger, then something in your lvm is messed up16:48
Corey84or you arent following the (continue mounting rest of LVM) part of paste16:49
TJ-MRME:  in addition, there is a nice LVM overview at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lvm16:49
kstengerah, i might have missed some mountpoint16:49
kstengerlet me check16:49
Corey84at a minumum you need / /boot /var /usr /dev /proc /sys mounted16:49
MRMETJ- alright ill go to LVM but as a start or default size to use ?16:50
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MRMETJ- for the directories i mentioned16:50
Corey84MRME, any other systems onboard the hdd ? also size of hd16:50
MRME@corey84 2 hdd 750+750 and 12gb ram i don't have any other systems but i have partition which contains the recovery16:51
kstengerCorey84: /var has contents, but /var/lock has not, is it usual for this directory to be a separate mountpoint?16:51
MRMEcorey84 /boot/home/tmp/ usrvar /srv /opt   /usr/local how much do i assign to them16:51
TJ-MRME: The point of LVM is, it is a container that disk space is allocated to. Whole-disk partitions are allocated to Physical Volumes (PVs). PVs are allocated to Volume Groups (VGs). Within VGs Logical Volumes (LVs) are created to contain the file-systems. LVs can be extended using free 'extents' in the parent VG, new LVs created at will, and snapshots of existing LVs taken very easily.16:52
Corey84are you spliting the hdds by chance or using 2nd one purely for backups and /home?16:52
Corey84TJ-, i use LVMs and have a good grasp of them too but that was a bit confusing on first read16:53
Corey84MRME, my current setup on a 640G http://pastebin.com/JqmHLQGG16:54
MRMEcorey84 i don't really know i don't need backups16:55
TJ-MRME: I have /boot/ = ~512MB,  /tmp/ = 6GB, /usr/local/ = 18GB, /opt/ = 4GB, / = 12GB, /var/ = 6GB ... and /home/ a large amount based on intended usage16:55
MRMEcorey84 its a personal computer16:55
Corey84mine too (a laptop )16:55
MRMEtj- ill do the lvm later on am a newbie16:55
MRMEso ill start with normal partitioning and install16:55
TJ-MRME: You'd have to reinstall then.16:55
Corey84^^16:56
MRMEtj- its ok am doing this to leran16:56
MRMElearn *16:56
Corey84MRME, see my layout?16:56
TJ-MRME: OK ... if you just choose "LVM" in the installer when offered the choice, it will do a default LVM install... which you can customise later at will16:56
MRMEcorey84 ill do the same or do you suggest me to increase something because i have a larger storage16:57
Corey84install system-config-lvm once installed tho to make gui control of lvm easier16:57
Corey84increase /home on yours if anything16:57
MRMEthx a lot guys ill be back in 45 min dinner and the family waiting for me haha16:57
Corey84mine is also set for dev work16:58
MRMEsuch a great community16:58
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brasileirohi, if anyone can help me, I'm having a lag problem on my Ubuntu 14.04 that seems a lot like the problem described here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1439861 I'm the author of the second post..17:01
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patarrhello. I am running nvidia drivers on 14.04 and I can't log in after enabling Xinerama.17:11
patarrIf I dont have xinerama, I set up the other displays as new X screens.17:11
patarrI log in, and they're black screens but I can put my cursor in them. (The cursor is that class X)17:12
patarrIf I enable xinerama, after i put in my login credentials i just see the ubuntu wallpaper on all screens and get nowhere from there.17:12
TJ-patarr: Is that using Unity?17:13
patarrWhat?17:13
pankajhi17:19
pankajhow to recover loss data from hard disk17:20
LadonIs there a method to automatically have all new files owned by Ladon:Ladon w/ a chmod of 666 or 777?17:20
TJ-patarr: xinerama disables 3D acceleration, which would cause the Unity Desktop Environment to have problems. Also, I had to move to KDE because Unity couldn't handle multi-monitor setups at all well17:20
LadonI run into permissions errors with automation constantly. I don't want to have to go into terminal and manually fix it every time.17:20
Ladon(for, say, /mnt/*)17:20
TJ-Ladon: The shell can/does set a umask which controls the permissions of newly created files by that user17:21
pankajwhy are my laptop startup very slow17:21
pankajplease tell me17:22
LadonTJ-, would that be in the fstab file? I can't find semi-laymen documentation for how to set up the umask17:22
yeats!details | pankaj17:22
ubottupankaj: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)17:22
TJ-pankaj: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery17:22
TJ-Ladon: "man bash" then "/    umask"17:23
pankajwhy are my laptop startup very slow in xubuntu17:24
patarrTJ-: funny you say that. First thing I did was apt-get kde on one of the tty terminals to see if i can reboot and get in.17:24
SevithIs it possible to disable the screen from locking when too much time lapses? It seems like after 15 minutes the screen auto locks even though i thought I had that disabled in the power options and screen saver17:24
legendHas there been native Flash support for ubuntu like Adobe Flash player for Windows ? Or Adobe Flash player like for Linux which is open source ?17:25
patarrTJ-: I also saw this. What are your thoughts on this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/184907/cant-login-to-unity-3d-after-enabling-xinerama-for-a-short-moment17:25
legend*Is there17:25
cfhowlett!flash | legend17:25
ubottulegend: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash17:25
SevithIs it possible to disable the screen from locking when too much time lapses? It seems like after 15 minutes the screen auto locks even though i thought I had that disabled in the power options and screen saver17:26
pankajplease tell me17:26
kdzhello there, i reinstalled ubuntu but i have permission issues17:27
TJ-patarr: well, the answer seems to show the same before and after for "Composite" - I assume that is a typo, but it makes sense *if* a custom xorg.conf has been created17:27
kdzhow do i take ownership of folders and files inside folders?17:27
rawrmonsterWhat is an easy to tell what the resolution of your screen is minus the space that the hud and top bar are taking up?17:27
legendcfhowlett, Is there any Open Source replacement for Adobe Flash Player which works natively with Linux ?17:27
pankajhi17:27
TJ-patarr: I'm running 3 GPUS > 6 monitors here - Unity can't cope with that config17:27
yeatskdz: 'sudo chown -R user:user /path/to/folder'17:27
cfhowlett!gnash | legend17:27
ubottulegend: Gnash is an open-source Flash replacement. It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/17:27
patarrTJ-: and you got that working on linux? Color me impressed. I'm having nothing but headache.17:27
kdzyeats thanks17:28
legendThank you.17:28
pankajplease tell me why are my laptop startup very slow17:28
pankajin xubuntu17:28
Sevithidk17:28
Sevithshitty laptop ?17:28
pankajesar17:28
cfhowlettpankaj define "very slow"17:29
TJ-patarr: what GPUs do you have (do they all use the same driver) ?17:29
kdzyeats that worked, how do iautomount my drives?17:30
yeats!fstab | kdz17:30
ubottukdz: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions17:30
pankajif open laptop then loading xubuntu very slow17:30
pankajplease tell me17:31
pankaj?17:31
NGC3982Tell you what?17:31
pankajhow to resolve issue17:31
kdzyeats do u know of a gui way to do it?17:31
cfhowlettHEY pankaj: if you don't answer questions, you probably don't get helped.  What is "very slow"?17:31
pankajloading xubuntu time taken17:32
TJ-pankaj: check the log for indications of disk or other errors. See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxLogFiles#Kernel_Log17:32
Chewy455 /msg NickServ identify test17:32
Chewy455oops17:33
Chewy455Anyway17:33
yeatskdz: I recommend taking the time to learn the format/syntax of /etc/fstab, but if you want GUI, this might point you to something useful: http://superuser.com/questions/346606/is-there-any-gui-tool-to-configure-etc-fstab17:33
Chewy455Luckily I didn't put the real password17:33
AcidRainhow would i search all files in a only a given directory, for the text of "$userid"17:33
kdzyeats where have u been all my life, i had to reinstall ubunt cause of a problem :P17:34
yeatskdz: happy to help ;-)17:34
TJ-AcidRain: "grep -n "$userid" /path/to/dir/*"17:34
Chewy455Anyway, my darlings, I hope I'm not asking too much. I can't pay. But I seriously need help if possible with my ubuntu 14.04LTS in a virtualbox installation and remoting into it17:34
AcidRainTJ-: thanks you!17:34
Chewy455It seems there is a bug. Because I'm just getting a gray screen when remoting into it.17:35
yeatsAcidRain: you can also do 'grep -R' which recursively searches all subdirectories too17:35
Chewy455wait one moment17:35
TJ-AcidRain: to also search sub-directories, add "-r": "grep -rn "$userid" /path/to/dir/*"17:35
SevithIs it possible to disable the screen from locking when too much time lapses? It seems like after 15 minutes the screen auto locks even though i thought I had that disabled in the power options and screen saver17:35
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JokesOnYou77Hi all.  I ran a normal system update and now I can't load graphics drivers.  The first error in the boot sequence appears to be Read Required Files In Advance.  How can I debug and find what file is breaking this?17:36
Sevithhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/24/ebola-virus-disease-facts-west-africa_n_5617585.html17:36
yeatsChewy455: how are you "remoting in"?17:36
Sevith? really?17:36
yeats!ot | Sevith17:36
ubottuSevith: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:36
AcidRainTJ-: good god. i got bombarded with the text of all files. how can i ONLY return the filename?17:36
TJ-AcidRain: "grep -L ..."17:36
Chewy455Over a notebook using wifi to the router which is my own router separate from the normal network. I tried ultravnc viewer and tight vnc viewer over windows 7 starter17:37
TJ-AcidRain: "man grep" !17:37
Chewy455erm I also installed vnc4server17:37
Chewy455started it17:37
Chewy455I also allowed port 5900 and port 5901 whichever one it is plus one as I tried the natural defaultubuntu desktop sharing after. As I'm trying to stick as much to terminal as possible17:38
NilBudPossible to upgrade from 14.04 to 14.04.1 via update manager?17:38
SevithHow is that an off topic question?17:38
SevithI just read a bug report on it17:38
SevithI was wondering if it is solved. Or if there i a work around THANKS17:38
cfhowlettSevith you huffpo link re: ebola is off-topic17:38
Sevith!ot | yeats17:38
ubottuyeats: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:38
SevithYeah that was the wrong channel lol...my bad17:39
zivesterdoes anyone know when 14.04.1 will be released to update-manager ?17:39
zivesterassuming i should wait for that for my 12.04 upgrade17:39
yeatszivester: no need to wait17:39
zivesterare you recommending sudo update-manager -d ?17:40
TJ-zivester: I think we're wating for all the mirrors to sync17:40
yeatszivester: no - 14.04 is not a development release - you should be able to upgrade normally17:40
TJ-zivester: when Trusty appears in this meta-release file, it'll be available: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts17:40
zivesterahh.. then update-manager should prompt me... does that usually take a couple days? i have some free time today so was hoping to do it now17:41
yeatszivester: 14.04 was release in April (am I missing something?)17:42
lloydm14.10 is available?17:42
TJ-zivester: It's showing in -proposed, but it takes time for the mirrors to all catch up17:42
zivesterthanks TJ-17:42
cfhowlett!utopic | lloydm17:42
ubottulloydm: Ubuntu 14.10 (Utopic Unicorn) is the next development release of Ubuntu due for release in October 2014. Support in #ubuntu+1. For more info, see the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/136317:42
zivesteryeats: 12.04 only gets update on 14.04.1 ... which seems to be syncing currently17:42
lloydmI just got told bu update manager that 14.10 is available.17:42
yeatsoh - huh, I didn't know that - my bad17:42
cfhowlettlloydm you've enabled development versions in your update manager17:43
bazhanglloydm, 1404.117:43
JokesOnYou77I ran a normal system update and now I can't load graphics drivers.  The first error in the boot sequence appears to be Read Required Files In Advance.  How can I debug and find what file is breaking this?17:43
Ladonokay, I'm lost after looking at the mount(8) and fstab wiki ... I just want all of my ext4 /mnt/ points to have rwx permissions across the board. When I follow what I see posted they fail to mount on boot17:44
genoobiehey all17:44
genoobietrying to figure out a bit of video stuff17:44
genoobieand get my kid on minecraft17:44
Chewy45514.04 you mean?17:44
genoobietried using the proprietary video driver (nVidia 8200M) versus Xorg17:44
genoobieseems a bit "glitchy"17:45
genoobieany suggestions on advantages / disadvantages of Xorg vs nVidia driver?17:45
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genoobieI could also use the "legacy" driver (considering the hardware is 6-7 years old)17:45
genoobiejust try each one?17:46
genoobieafter switching to the proprietary driver, the minecraft app seems to get stuck17:46
genoobiebrb17:46
TJ-Ladon: you can test fstab entries without rebooting, using "sudo mount -a"17:47
Ladonwell, when I run getfacl it tells me that I'm the owner/group and that u/g/o is all rwx17:48
Ladonbut that's not the case17:48
Eisromanhi hackers17:48
TJ-JokesOnYou77: It is probable that the kernel version was updated but the video driver (possibly proprietary package) wasn't, and therefore broke something. If the system boots to a text terminal you can look in "/var/log/kern.log", "/var/log/boot.log" and possibly "/va/log/Xorg.0.log" for clues17:48
cfhowlettEisroman no hackers here - check your channel.17:48
Eisromanok17:49
Chewy455Even after the update of 14.04 I'm still on a gray screen17:49
TJ-cfhowlett: There certainly are! Me for one!17:49
Chewy455When trying to remote into my virtualbox ubuntu17:50
hernande__sdfsdfs17:51
TJ-Chewy455: Can you SSH in and look at the logs for clues?17:51
Chewy455I'm not ssh'ng into it17:51
Chewy455but sure. Which logs do you want?17:52
dexxhello gentlemen17:52
Chewy455and put it into pastebin.ca or where?17:52
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Chewy455(has never had to use Ubuntu IRC before)17:52
Chewy455ok I'll just do it :)17:53
TJ-Chewy455: not so much which logs I want, but I was suggesting you may find clues in the logs. What I'd do is SSH in, then try to connect via VNC, then do "ls -latr /var/log/" to list the logs files with most recently changed last, then investigate the log-files/directories changed at the the time the VNC connection occurred17:53
JokesOnYou77TJ-, Thank you.  I've got a term emulator.  I've already --purge nvidia-* AND downloaded an older kernel image.  Nothing appears to have helped :/17:53
TJ-JokesOnYou77: OK, so the GUI (X server) fails to start? I'd look in "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" if that is the case17:54
TJ-JokesOnYou77: You might also find useful clues for the Display Manager in log-files in "/var/log/lightdm/"17:54
TJ-JokesOnYou77: You may need 'sudo' to "ls" or read some of those17:55
JokesOnYou77TJ-, in kern.log I have a few failed messages. wl: module verification failed: signature and/or required key missing - tainting kernel17:55
walkerppHi all. I am on live ubuntu and I want to fix my grub that I overwrote with windows installation. Can anyone please tell me what I have to do now?17:55
TJ-JokesOnYou77: Those are for out-of-tree kernel modules and Secure Boot signing - you can safely ignore those17:56
JokesOnYou77TJ-, No need for kid gloves btw, I'm not adept at boot time debugging, but I practically live in the terminal17:56
JokesOnYou77TJ-, ok.17:56
TJ-JokesOnYou77: Oh, that's a nice change :)17:56
JokesOnYou77TJ-, the other fail message in kern.log is ioapc: probe of 0000:00:13.0 failed with error -2217:56
TJ-JokesOnYou77: If the X server didn't even start, then Xorg.0.log won't be from the current boot... so use log-file timestamps as indications as to which logs are being updated for the current boot attempt17:57
JokesOnYou77TJ-, Something in power management?17:57
Ladongrrr, I used setfacl -d -m u::rwx,g::rwx,o::rwx /mnt/17:57
JokesOnYou77TJ-, Nah, this is in kern.log17:57
TJ-JokesOnYou77: Aha! very often an external GPU is on 00:1317:57
Ladonand it's still not working! I can't delete newly added files remotely17:57
LadonI'm trying to run this headless/with rdp :o17:57
JokesOnYou77TJ-, AHHA!17:57
TJ-JokesOnYou77: What is your system GPU configuration?17:57
TJ-JokesOnYou77: my bet is, you haven't told the kernel to re-calculate the PCI bridges so theres not enough IOMEM address space17:58
TJ-JokesOnYou77: what does "cat /proc/cmdline" show?17:58
JokesOnYou77TJ-, It's a 2009 Mac Pro (I know, it's just what I've got to work with :/ ) The gpu is a GeForce 12017:58
TJ-JokesOnYou77: is that GPU the 00:13 device? check what address the PCI devices are on with "lspci -nn"17:59
adm001mihey all, I got a question... what does ubuntu do for cpufreq/cooling out of the box?17:59
adm001miwhen it comes to laptops that is17:59
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MRMEcan i do an lvm installatin without affecting all my hdd ?18:00
MRMETJ- i decided to reinstall it with lvm how can i guarantee the recovery partition does wipe or deleted18:01
kdzmy VM doesnt want to start :(18:01
JokesOnYou77TJ-, proc/cmdline => BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.13.--24-generic root=UUID=blah-blah ro18:02
TJ-MRME: You want to retain the existing installations? It is a long time since I did a desktop install so I can't recall now.... but I *think* LVM partitioning choice comes after the choice for installing alongside another OS... but as I say, I can't recall now so don't take my word on it18:02
TJ-JokesOnYou77: is 00:13 (00:0d) the GPU?18:03
Chewy455I'm trying to upload the original :1.log file of the vnc server. However for some reason pastebin has a problem18:03
fisch246Is there a reason why 14.04.1 hasn't been released to the server repos yet?18:03
MRMETJ- no a new fresh install18:03
MRMEbut i don't want the custom windows recovery that came with my laptop to be deleted18:04
eeeefisch246: it's there18:04
MRMEi guess i solved it18:04
fallen_i18:04
fisch246eeee: when I run "sudo do-release-upgrade" it can still not find an update18:04
TJ-fisch246: awaiting mirror servers to sync18:04
Chewy455ok boom I found justpaste.it18:04
Chewy455c7o6n5f4u3s2e1d018:04
Chewy455oops18:04
ntrnx64i guess you take a "image" of this recovery partition?18:04
eeeefisch246: you have to run the normal update that was made18:04
fisch246eeee: meaning?18:05
Chewy455justpaste.it/gdj518:05
eeeetop right corner, about this computer > check for updates18:05
fisch246eeee: I'm referring to servers not desktop18:05
TJ-fisch246: You're waiting for 12.04 > 14.04 aren't you?18:05
fisch246TJ-: yes 12.04.4 > 14.04.118:05
eeeefisch246: run apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade / apt-get dist-upgrade18:05
TJ-fisch246: awaiting mirror servers to sync18:05
JokesOnYou77TJ-, 00:13.0 PIC [0800]: Intel Corporation 7500/5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub I/OxAPIC Interrupt Controller [8086:342d] (rev 13)18:06
Chewy455There is the log file to my vnc server which has problems.18:06
TJ-eeee: that is incorrect. fisch246 is waiting on do-release-upgrade18:06
eeeeTJ-: he is on 12.04 ?18:06
fallen_:18:06
MRMEthe boot must be ex ? 2 or or 3 or 4 ?18:06
fisch246TJ-: alright, is there an estimate of how long it will be?18:06
TJ-JokesOnYou77: Hmmm, OK, Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller ... I'm pretty sure that shouldn't fail, and is vital18:06
MRMETJ- the boot is only 500 i can't chose ext4 ? should i choose 2 or 3 /18:07
TJ-fisch246: None, we're all waiting with baited breath. When Trusty appears in the list here it'll be ready: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts18:07
eeeefisch246: you're on 12.04?18:07
TJ-eeee: Yes18:07
eeeeoh ok18:07
fisch246TJ-: cool thanks! a place I can check :D18:07
JokesOnYou77TJ-, Actually, I'm not seeing a gpu at all in lspci -nn18:07
TJ-JokesOnYou77: How are you seeing anything then?!18:08
compdocChewy455, realvnc?18:08
compdocthere are easier ones18:08
Chewy455I choe apt-get vnc4server18:08
TJ-JokesOnYou77: is that 14.04 ? Can you do "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg" ?18:08
Chewy455*chose18:08
JokesOnYou77TJ-, I have no idea lol18:08
TJ-JokesOnYou77: "cat /etc/issue"18:08
compdocvnc4server is nice18:08
OerHekslspci | grep -i VGA18:09
Acehello, happy friday everybody. can somebody tell how easy it would be to allow usr/bin/acestreamplayer in AppArmor (i guess i would have to edit my Default apparrmor profile)18:09
JokesOnYou77TJ-, hang on let me ssh in18:09
Chewy455Yeah. Just it is just giving me a gray screen.18:10
MRMEShould /boot partition be formated in ext2 or ext4?18:10
GuyThatNeedsHelpI was going to use KDE as my desktop env and ended up not wanting to use it so i did (sudo apt-get remove kde-full) and now when i turn my computer restarts i have this blueish page asking me to type my password. Does anyone know how i can get the default login page back?18:10
fisch246TJ-: time for me spam f5 for the rest of the day :318:10
nickhilr1Hi.. my pc is running on a 64bit amd processor and have 12Gs ram, how much swap area must i allocate while installing ubuntu?   i am new to linux and about to install ubuntu 14.04 64bit on my pc18:10
compdocChewy455, which version of ubunu18:10
Chewy45514.0418:10
Chewy455LTS18:10
nickhilr1yes18:10
Chewy455And tight vnc or ultra vnc trying to login onto the virtualbox server. Local network18:11
patarrTJ-: whoops sent you a message in the wrong channel ;)18:11
compdocChewy455, vncserver wont work on 14.0418:11
Chewy455On a windows 7 starter notebook18:11
Chewy455Ok18:11
Chewy455What do you suppose I should do Doc?18:12
compdocyou need a 2D desktop, and Unity is only 3D now18:12
Ozera||Does anyone know how to use unetbootin on ubuntu 12.04? It won't show all directories so I can't select my iso18:12
TJ-patarr: whoops! replied to you in the wrong channel :p18:12
bekksOzera||: Which directory isnt shown?18:13
Chewy455So find another distro or what? Because I set it up to use gnome relative to a tutorial I was following18:13
Chewy455My apologies for my ignorance.18:13
compdocChewy455, well what I was forced to do is install Ubuntu Server, and the mate desktop, but any of the other supported versions of Ubuntu should work. like ubuntu-gnome. I like Mate because you can install any of the same gnome programs that work on Unity18:14
GuyThatNeedsHelpI was going to use KDE as my desktop env and ended up not wanting to use it so i did (sudo apt-get remove kde-full) and now when i turn my computer restarts i have this blueish page asking me to type my password. Does anyone know how i can get the default login page back?18:14
patarrGuyThatNeedsHelp: you'd need to re enable lightdm and its login manager somehow I think18:14
patarrTJ-: i will go and check :)18:14
Chewy455wait wait. I'll show you my xstartup. Becaue what you're saying sounds liek what I've tried18:15
Chewy455*like18:15
JokesOnYou77TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7857928/18:15
Ozera||bekks, it only shows "Computer" and "root" under that18:16
bekksOzera||: So doubleclick on root.18:16
Ozera||bekks, and in root, it only shows a folder called 'sketchbook'18:16
compdocChewy455, Ive tried for a long time to get the current Unity to work in vncserver, becuase I like it18:16
compdocbut it wont18:16
Chewy455paste.ubuntu.com/7857943/18:17
JokesOnYou77TJ-, I've never seen pastbinit before.  THIS IS AWESOME18:17
Ozera||bekks, the only folder in / is 'sketchbook;18:17
Chewy455Well in the tutorial I had to apt-get the gnome desktop for the vnc server connection18:17
Chewy455and also ech time I specified 1024x600 well I chose that as I was araid highr would be overkill or something.18:18
TJ-JokesOnYou77: OK, so the GPU is "05:00.0" ... I'm suspicious of the " ioapc: probe of 0000:00:13.0 failed with error -22" but that *just may* be expected on a Mac... "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg" and lets see if there's anything else there18:18
aahola18:20
JokesOnYou77TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7857968/18:20
DrShoggothdoes anybody know a good tool to extract a cue sheet from a cd image?   Besides for burning it and re-ripping of course18:21
compdocChewy455, this is my current xstart. Maybe you can use 'gnome-classic' at the bottom instead:    http://paste.ubuntu.com/7857970/18:21
compdocand gnome-panel18:21
DrShoggothmkcue                                                                                             - Generates a CUE sheet from a CD    <---- I'm thinking I should have checked the repository first... ignore my question :)18:21
JokesOnYou77TJ-, # cat /etc/issue => Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l18:22
sliptteesI'm trying to install nautilus-dropbox .... just that it does not complete the install my dpkg is locked, asking to run dpkg - configure-a only time I've ever done several and not conclude, how can you ignoring it and removing this package?18:23
Cuby96hi, im having a problem with the sound. can someone help me please?18:23
JokesOnYou77TJ-, Also, fyi, I'm on gnome18:23
TJ-JokesOnYou77: OK, the GPU driver is the open-source Nvidia nouveau. Can you check if there is a custom "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" - if there is, pastebinit ?18:24
patarrTJ-: failed to obtain gnome-session instance unknown parameter XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP18:25
JokesOnYou77TJ-, I actually purged that driver too before I got on the chat.  So right now I have no graphics driver at all and I'm on kernel image 13.3.0-24 (BUt i have the more recent images available)18:25
DrShoggothok... so that doesn't work, it has to be a real cdrom, so back to needing a way to extract a cue or toc from a cd image18:26
Chewy455Doc it's baautiful. It's a connection. But it seems like it's just showing me the terminal is that normal?18:26
JokesOnYou77TJ-, No custom xorg.conf.  I've just been letting gdm do the work for me.18:26
patarrTJ-: but like... why the hell is touching something gnome related when Im running KDE.18:26
Chewy455*beautiful18:26
Chewy455ah yes of course.xterminal emulator18:27
TJ-JokesOnYou77: OK... I was wondering if xorg.conf had a custom nvidia entry which would of course fail if the kernel driver is nouveau.18:27
sliptteesI'm trying to install nautilus-dropbox .... just that it does not complete the install my dpkg is locked, asking to run dpkg --configure -a every time. But I've ever done several times and won't work , how can you ignoring it and removing this package?18:27
mrmeis it ok to give /boot 6 gb and give ext 4 type ?18:28
TJ-patarr: I don't know, that error log gets all sorts of weird reports, no datestamps, no process names... so rarely helpful!18:28
Cuby96hi, im having a problem with the sound. can someone help me please?.18:28
bekksmrme: 6GB is wasting 5.5GB at least :)18:28
TJ-mrme: You'll never use 600MB let alone 6GB for /boot/18:28
JokesOnYou77TJ-, I can install nvidia-current if you think it would help.  If I reboot, any thoughts on which kernel image I should use?18:28
patarrTJ-: I tried enabling Composition in Xorg. Didn't work. Now I'm truly stumped. :'(18:28
mrmeTJ- so i give it 512 ?18:28
mrmeTJ- and ext 2 ?18:29
nickhilr1i am new to linux and about to install ubuntu 14.04 64bit on my pc running on a 64bit amd processor and have 12Gs ram, how much swap area must i allocate while installing ubuntu?18:29
nickhilr1anyone18:29
JokesOnYou77TJ-, I also added the xorg-edgers ppa for more current drivers, I was hoping that would fix the problem but it doesn't seem to have helped yet18:29
Chewy455ok doc I just done an apt-get update through that terminal. And it updated something. So is that applied. Or must I do that on the original user account?18:29
Chewy455And do you have any tips or what to search for further to watch the logs of terminals being used in thi way?18:30
Chewy455*this18:30
TJ-JokesOnYou77: The nouveau driver is part of the kernel package, and the related xorg drivers. What do you mean by having "purged" it?18:30
bekksmrme: 512M, ext4.18:30
samsul!swap18:30
TJ-mrme: 512MB for /boot/ is fine ^^^ as bekks says18:30
ubottuswap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info18:30
patarrTJ-: perhaps try Twinview?18:31
JokesOnYou77TJ-, apt-get remove --purge18:31
Chewy455Doc you're super cool love you. Seriously. I can even use my Nano in it :)18:31
compdocChewy455, apt-get update doesnt do anything but refresh the server list that ubuntu uses to download the updates from18:32
mrmebekks i got box that says the size you entered is smaller than the minimum size of the partition please enter a larger size to continue18:32
compdoc Chewy455, try:  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade18:32
Chewy455Oh I thought it updates the current installed packages18:32
Chewy455ok18:32
TJ-patarr: Have you tried the Guest log-in in case it is a per-user setting causing this, at least it would help narrow down the possibilities18:32
bekksmrme: 512 != 512M18:32
mrmeyes ! i guess you can't assign ext4 ? maybe i need to use ext2 with 512 M18:33
Chewy455boooom!18:33
bekksmrme: Of course you can assign ext4.18:33
Chewy455It' on its own mission :D18:33
compdoclol18:33
Chewy455And that applies across the whole VM?18:33
JokesOnYou77TJ-, apt-get remove --purge noveau-firmware xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xsever-xorg-video-nouveau-dbg18:33
TJ-JokesOnYou77: I think you should ensure all package dependencies are good with "apt-get -f install" then try "service lightdm start" (all with "sudo " prefix) and then "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"18:33
compdocit applies to the OS18:33
sliptteesI'm trying to install nautilus-dropbox .... just that it does not complete the install my dpkg is locked, asking to run dpkg --configure -a every time. But I've ever done several times and won't work , how can you ignoring it and removing this package?18:34
Chewy455:D18:34
Chewy455:D:D:D:D18:34
TJ-JokesOnYou77: Ouch... that may well have double-broke the poor X server18:34
kstengerI'm trying to reinstall a /boot partition with grub on an usb stick for which grub got broken after an update. I did everything in http://pastie.org/9420314 however grub-install is still not finding any instance of linux. I need serious help with this, as I've done all the necesary steps, and folowed every posible guide so far.18:34
patarrAre Lubuntu Kubuntu and the likes behind Ubuntu in any way? Or do they still use the same repos but just come with different packages installed?18:34
Chewy455I mean sadly I wasn't able to get what I wanted done today. But I mean with OS technology it's fogivable. But you sincerely helped me. I'm so grateful buddy :)18:35
Chewy455*forgivable18:35
Chewy455*Open Source18:35
mrmebeaks alright it worked when i changed from primary to logical18:35
JokesOnYou77TJ-, :/18:35
mrmebekks alright it worked when i changed from primary to logical18:36
JokesOnYou77TJ-, apt-get -f install did nothing18:36
JokesOnYou77TJ-, I don't have lightdm, but I'll try with gdm18:36
bekksmrme: that doesnt matter, I guess you changed another parameter as well.18:36
loahow i can stop samba in ubuntu?18:36
TJ-JokesOnYou77: "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" should ensure all the dependencies are in place (assuming you're using Unity - otherwise replace 'ubuntu-desktop' with the one you're using)18:36
JokesOnYou77TJ-, The base install was server addition.  Everything else was built on top of that.  So should I reinstall nouveau?18:37
LeMikehm. ubuntu or debian? I dunno if I switch to debian. if debian is up to date like ubuntu with it's packages then I would love to! is it?18:37
mrmebeaks maybe ok do i assign all other free space to home ?18:37
TJ-JokesOnYou77: hang on, let me check on the top package required18:37
compdocsudo status smbd, sudo stop smbd18:37
JokesOnYou77TJ-, sudo apt-get install gnome, everything is newest version.  (I think that's the right metapackage)18:37
TJ-JokesOnYou77: "apt-get install xserver-xorg" *should* pull in "xserver-xorg-video-all" which depends on "xserver-xorg-video-nouveau"18:38
Chewy455Ok. Now I can go forward until I hit a brick wall. This should help me with my libpcap and tcpdump computer forensic book. I should head off as my ex wants to watch ramseys kitchen nightmares with me. Thank you all and Especially Doc. I'll try and pop in more often. This place is wonderful.18:39
* Chewy455 smiles and waves18:39
TJ-JokesOnYou77: Assuming the packages are installed, do the 'gdm' start test and lets look at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log"18:39
nickhilr1ubottu: thanks18:40
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)18:40
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karinHey guys is anybody having flash problems since updating to 14.04?18:40
bekkskarin: Whats your actual question? :)18:41
Gin^Got a rather strange issue perhaps someone could help me identify the problem too. Occationally, more often then once every few minutes, keyboard gets stuck spamming the letter 'A' in any application I have open for the time beeing. Disconnecting the keyboard does not solve the problem. Though a quick double tap on A key does. Any ideas on whats causing this?18:42
JokesOnYou77TJ-, What is the datestamp in the log files?  Is it unix time?18:42
dexxgentlemen, does anyone use Autodesk Maya 2015?18:42
bekksGin^: That sounds like a defective A key on the keyboard.18:42
dexx(and ladies, of course)18:42
TJ-JokesOnYou77: yes18:42
mrmeif i have two hard disk can i assign storage from both hard disk to home ?18:43
chris112ubuntu gnome keeps forgetting display configuration. how can i fix that?18:43
bekksmrme: No.18:43
destreubuntu gnome keeps forgetting display configuration. how can i fix that?18:43
bpromptGin^:    yeah... just open up the keyboard, give it some clean up while at it =), and check the rubbier or metal spring in the letter A, since it seems to somewhat be getting stuck18:44
karinHi bekks, since I updated, Chrome doesn't work with flash videos online, YouTube runs smooth tho and I have no problems with Firefox, I've heard this is a common problem and that 14.04 fixed it for some people but it didn't work with me!18:44
Gin^bekks: tried they keyboard on a windows 8 installation, aswell as a LM installation without any issues. Are Ubuntu prone to be more affected by keyboard hardware issues?18:44
mrmebekks so what can i do with the other hard disk in my laptop :/ what do i assign it for18:44
bekksmrme: something like /data for example.18:44
TJ-Gin^: I suppose it could be some of the Accessibility 'sticky keys' settings affecting that, though I doubt it. Sounds more like the keyboard isn't sending the key-up event so the auto-repeat kicks in. Are you able to try a different external keyboard?18:44
Gin^bprompt: see my answer to beeks18:44
bekksGin^: No, it isnt. Did you try another keyboard?18:45
bekkskarin: I am using Chrome on 14.04 without any issues.18:45
Gin^bekks: Not for the time beeing, Im rather short on keyboard these days :P18:45
TJ-Gin^: I remember a long time ago there used to be an issue that if you held down the Ctrl key (I think it was) for a time it engaged the stick-keys or some other accessibility feature, which caused weird behaviour18:45
mrmebeaks right now my laptop is 1500 gb 750+750 i assigned 50gb to / and 20gb /opt 30gb /var /usr /tmp /usr/local /srv / 512mb /boot i still have 500 gb from the first hard disk and 750 from the other hard disk18:45
mrmebekks right now my laptop is 1500 gb 750+750 i assigned 50gb to / and 20gb /opt 30gb /var /usr /tmp /usr/local /srv / 512mb /boot i still have 500 gb from the first hard disk and 750 from the other hard disk18:46
Gin^TJ-: Thanks, gonna look at the accessibility options, and try find a old keyboard somewhere18:46
karinWhere did you get chrome, bekks, official page?18:46
mrmeTJ- please read my last statement its my last question18:46
JokesOnYou77TJ-, Starting gdm has no effect on the Xorg log file.  Nothing changes at all18:46
bekksmrme: You are wasting space. An Ubuntu installation runs perfectly with 20GB overall.18:46
TJ-JokesOnYou77: which suggests gdm isn't doing much18:47
mrmealright what do you suggest me to do with the storage i have ? ubuntu says i need to mount it to something or i will not use it18:47
TJ-JokesOnYou77: maybe its stuck in the 'started' state? Have you tried "service gdm stop && service gdm start" ?18:47
genoobiehey all18:48
bekksmrme: I suggest not wasting space. :) 512M for /boot, 20G for /, 4G for /home, and the space left on the harddisks for /data and /data218:48
walterwojCan someone help me with an error while updating.  I keep getting: fatal error, aborting:  reading files list for package 'libxres1:i386': Input/output error18:48
genoobiejust isntalled lubuntu, running into a few problems18:48
destreGin^:    yeah... just open up the keyboard, give it some clean up while at it =), and check the rubbier or metal spring in the letter A, since it seems to somewhat be getting stuck18:48
mrmebekks i don't have any /data and /data2 in the mount choices18:48
bekksmrme: You can create them.18:48
destreGin^:    yeah... just open up the keyboard, give it some clean up while at it =), and check the rubbier or metal spring in the letter A, since it seems to somewhat be getting stuck18:48
Gin^destre: Will do, The question for asking was that it runs flawless on 2 other installations.18:49
genoobieat any rate, the issue is do I use a "proprietary" video driver or Xorg18:49
JokesOnYou77TJ-, trying to stop gdm gives Unknown Instance18:49
destreTJ-, Starting gdm has no effect on the Xorg log file.  Nothing changes at all18:49
genoobiewhen I use the proprietary driver and run minecraft it crashes / gets stuck18:49
mrmebekks ohhh ok :D what about the other partitions /tmp /srv .... do i need to give them anything ?18:49
genoobieXorg, no such problem18:49
bekksmrme: you dont need them.18:49
JokesOnYou77TJ-, Thoughts on vdpau-driver?18:49
genoobieis there any advantage to using a proprietary driver vs x?18:49
TJ-JokesOnYou77: OK, you're sure your system is using gdm not lightdm?18:49
mrmebeaks thanks just curious then who needs them ?18:50
TJ-genoobie: For Nvidia, very often much much better 3D acceleration performance18:50
bekksmrme: people that run servers, and have to put data on a dedicated filesystem.18:50
destreTJ-, Starting gdm has no effect on the Xorg log file.  Nothing changes at all18:50
JokesOnYou77TJ-, It's ubuntu server.  It doesn't even have lightdm installed18:50
TJ-JokesOnYou77: OK, so you've customised the X server startup then?18:51
mrmebeaks thanks alot you taught me a lot18:51
JokesOnYou77TJ-, Nope, I just installed the gnome metapackage which set up gdm18:51
genoobieso TJ- can I "fix" the crashing problem with minecraft or other compatibility?  I was using the latest 331 driver, but there is an option for a legacy driver.  Considering the hardware is 6-7 years old, would that be a better approach?18:51
mrmebeaks thanks a lot you taught me a lot *18:51
kdzminecraft works well on windows18:51
JokesOnYou77TJ-, I thought about going with no startup manager, but gdm was easier18:51
TJ-genoobie: If the latest driver supports the GPU, then keep it. Something else will be at issue... possibly lack of GPU memory, for example18:52
syntroPiJokesOnYou77, maybe you also can look at the log files in /var/log/gdm/ ?18:52
walterwojhas anyone else had any trouble with updating libxres1:i386 ?18:52
genoobieoh, hrm18:52
genoobieTJ-, any way to address that issue?18:52
TJ-genoobie: Usually no, unless the GPU is replaced18:52
TJ-genoobie: but it pays to identify the true cause first. I'd be looking for a minecraft debug logging option18:53
genoobieTJ-, well it doesn't "crash" the computer just freezes up18:53
genoobiethe GPU is supported in the driver18:54
TJ-genoobie: overheating?18:54
genoobieany way to log that temperature?18:54
genoobieI can see the temp in nvidia-settings18:54
syntroPiJokesOnYou77, are you using the default ubuntu-gnome-desktop from trusty (gnome 3.10)? or are you using any gnome3-staging ppas with gnome 3.12 (those caused on my system a similar problem)?18:54
TJ-genoobie: The nvidia-settings GUI allows you to see the temperatures18:54
genoobieTJ-, yes, but if it "crashes" I won't know what the temp is when it dies18:55
genoobieTJ-, it's quite possible that it's overheating18:55
JokesOnYou77syntroPi, I'm on 3.10, but I do have that ppa installed, maybe purge that ppa?18:55
genoobieTJ-, wouldn't you expect Xorg to have the same result?18:55
TJ-genoobie: No, since it doesn't exercise the GPU in the same way18:56
genoobieGotcha, thanks18:56
genoobienow when the computer freezes what options do I have18:56
destreCan someone help me with an error while updating.  I keep getting: fatal error, aborting:  reading files list for package 'libxres1:i386': Input/output error18:56
TJ-genoobie: this is one of the problems with proprietary drivers, they don't expose standard interface for monitoring temperatures18:56
genoobiectrl-alt-del doesn't do anything18:56
TJ-genoobie: I'd bet (weakly) on overheating18:57
genoobieokay.18:57
genoobieI could set the fan on full and see if that helps.18:57
walterwojdestre: That is me your quoting...18:57
syntroPiJokesOnYou77, i used that ppa and did a dist-upgrade on it to get 3.12. then i got that issue that gdm login didnt show up (just black screen with mouse). after i ppa-purge ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3-staging and reverting back to the stock 3.10 that issue disappeared for me18:57
genoobieso TJ- not really much of a solution is there.18:58
genoobieTJ-, the idling temp is about 6018:58
pschmittHi, I'm having some trouble with dm-crypt18:58
pidybineed GPS for Ubuntu, any idea?18:58
pidybiGPS map&guide 818:58
pschmittis cryptsetup supposed to read its config from /etc/crypptab just like mount does with /etc/fstab?18:59
JokesOnYou77syntroPi, I can try that.  But the issue that I'm having is that X isn't even starting18:59
TJ-genoobie: my GPUs are @ 57, 74, 6618:59
walterwojanyone know about fixing read errors while upgrading?18:59
d45611hi folks.  I'm ssh'ing into a machine running Ubuntu 14.04.  When I start screen it wont start in 256 colors.  it gives me this error -bash: screen-256color: command not found.  I researched this problem and it looks like the Terminal program on my mac is running XTerm 256 colors.  Do I need to edit a file on the remote machine to correspond with this?  If so, how can I do this please?18:59
kstengerplease if you may check this out http://askubuntu.com/questions/502665/fix-broken-grub-on-usb-stick-mounting-lvm-from-the-hardrive18:59
TJ-pschmitt: the cryptdisk tools do19:00
pschmittcryptdisk?19:00
pschmittkstenger: this is very different from the issue i am encountering19:01
TJ-pschmitt: The scripts that come with cryptsetup that handle boot-time unlocking19:01
kstengerpschmitt: this is my issue, sorry they seem related :)19:01
JokesOnYou77TJ-, I rebooted, in kern.log does this mean anything to you: noveau 0000:05:00.0 registered panic notifier19:01
TJ-JokesOnYou77: That is usually the final message from the driver; normal19:01
syntroPiJokesOnYou77, hmm have you tried starting it in recovery mode (from grub) and then "resume"? that kinda worked on my system when i had that issue.19:01
syntroPion same kernel ofc19:02
JokesOnYou77syntroPi, I did in fact try that.  I've also tried different kernel versions19:02
JokesOnYou77syntroPi, Good catch though19:03
syntroPiJokesOnYou77, what do you mean by Xorg isnt even starting? Empty Xorg.0.log?19:03
syntroPion my sys it partially started then froze19:03
syntroPiso i hat some lines in there19:03
genoobieTJ-, the screen definitely looks better with the Nvidia driver running19:04
AcidRaingrep -l  "$userid" /var/www/wwb/*.php | cut -d: -f1       this appears to return all files. even when it doesnt match19:05
TJ-JokesOnYou77: sounds like you need to debug the gdm startup scripts... something in its config may have it disabled19:05
patarrAre Lubuntu Kubuntu and the likes behind Ubuntu in any way? Or do they still use the same repos but just come with different packages installed?19:05
JokesOnYou77syntroPi, running sudo service start gdm, no lines are added to Xorg.0.log19:05
AcidRainhowever, the word "userid" was found in the file. but im searching for "$userid"19:05
JokesOnYou77TJ-, I think you're right. Is there a way to test that theory?  # startx ?19:05
AcidRainactually that doesnt work at all. it returns all files in the dir19:06
Slagwaghey ubuntuers19:06
TJ-AcidRain: "$userid" is expanded by the shell into the contents of the variable "userid" - if that is empty, you're doing an empty search. You need to *escape* the $ sign with "\$userid" or use single quotes '$userid'19:06
JokesOnYou77TJ-, rsyslogd-2039: Could no open output pipe '/dev/xconsole': No such file or directory [try http://www.rsyslog.com/e/2039 ]19:06
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AcidRainTJ-: wow. thx again19:07
Slagwagim struggling to get apt-get working with a proxy. I have to use a corporate proxy with authentication. So far everything I reado nline hasn't worked so im a bit stumped. I tried this: export http_proxy="http://"FirstName.Last@company.com":MyPassword@proxy.address.com:80"19:07
_1_DanielHola19:07
TJ-JokesOnYou77: Long time since I had to debug the init scripts... I usually read them, and deduce which configs they are reading that control conditional actions, and then go read the config files themselves to understand how the service script would behave19:07
_1_DanielOk19:08
Slagwagi also tried adding to /etc/apt/apt.conf and putting aquire::http::proxy - then puttin in that http path19:08
_1_DanielEspanp19:08
syntroPiJokesOnYou77, what about the log files in /var/log/gdm/19:08
_1_DanielEspano19:08
TJ-Slagwag: "man apt.conf" "/    http" says its format is  " http://[[user][:pass]@]host[:port]/"19:09
Slagwagyea i know19:10
Slagwagthat is that format19:10
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TJ-Slagwag: what kind of authentication is required?19:11
Slagwaguser and pass but it is AD based so the User name is my full email with domain19:11
SlagwagOR19:11
SlagwagDomain\user19:11
Slagwagbut neither work when I add that19:11
Slagwaghowever I am able to run yum update by putting in that same credential set into a centos box19:12
Slagwagin the yum.conf file19:12
JokesOnYou77TJ-, syntroPi /var/log/gdm/:0-slave.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/785834019:12
Slagwagthough its a different http_proxy format19:12
JokesOnYou77TJ-, syntroPi Sorry, meant :0-greeter.log19:13
Slagwagbut when you have an @ sign or any punctuation in the username you have to put it in quotes therefore it is "http://"secondquote":Password@host:port"19:13
EtaleHowdy y'all. I was here yesterday, but I'm still stuck. I have a new Lenovo computer, which comes with Windows 8. It's got an SSD harddrive. I'm trying to install Ubuntu so that it will dual boot.19:14
TJ-JokesOnYou77: see bug #118482319:14
ubottubug 1184823 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashed with signal 5 in _cogl_set_error()" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118482319:14
EtaleRight now whenever I'm booting from the Ubuntu disk it stays stuck on the logo screen.19:14
EtaleI checked the DVD for problems and it has none.19:14
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EtaleI understand that this probably has something to do with EFI...? I'm clueless about these things.19:15
FishsceneEtale, during the boot, (before it freezes), press [esc] to show more details on the boot process.19:15
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EtaleI'm there now, Fishscene.19:15
EtaleI changed the Boot Mode to "Diagnostics". (Before that it was "quick".) Still same result.19:15
TJ-Slagwag: Have  you seen/tried this: http://serverfault.com/questions/175495/apt-get-through-ntlm-authenticated-proxy19:16
d45611hi folks.  I'm ssh'ing into a machine running Ubuntu 14.04.  When I start screen it wont start in 256 colors.  it gives me this error -bash: screen-256color: command not found.  I researched this problem and it looks like the Terminal program on my mac is running XTerm 256 colors.  Do I need to edit a file on the remote machine to correspond with this?  If so, how can I do this please?19:17
SlagwagAcquire::http::Proxy "http://MYDOMAIN\MYNAME:MYPASS@MY.PROXY.COM:MYPORT";19:18
Slagwagthats exactly what i did19:18
FishsceneEtale: hmm… I'm not familiar with EFI on Lenovo's, but some machines offer a BIOS/EFI boot mode. WARNING: I have no idea if that setting (if it exists) will mess up your Windows 8 boot.19:18
FishsceneAside from that, I'm not going to be of much help at all. :S19:18
TJ-Slagwag: Is there any clue as to why it is failing, either on the client or on the proxy server event logs?19:18
SlagwagCOuld not connect to and Unable connect to errors19:19
SlagwagIts as if it is not even attempting the proxy19:19
TJ-Slagwag: That sounds more like it, yes19:19
TJ-Slagwag: Have you confirmed the DNS name of the proxy resolves19:20
EtaleOkay, I now disabled "secure boot". Let's see if it works.19:21
Slagwagyup19:21
Slagwagi tried via IP too19:21
TJ-Etale: Have you tried holding down the Space key as the installer starts to get to the boot menu? Does that work, or does it freeze before that?19:21
Slagwaghmm19:21
TJ-Slagwag: Can you manually access the proxy server using, say, curl?19:22
EtaleTJ-, when you say boot menu, do you mean the BIOS menu, or the menu that has "try ubuntu" as one of the options?19:22
EtaleWait..19:22
EtaleI think it works...?19:22
TJ-Etale The boot menu on the installer ISO image on DVD/USB :)19:22
OerHeksEtale, i cannot read back enough, but did you disable fastboot in windows 8? this can hog up in partitioning issues.19:23
EtaleTJ-, I get that anyway.19:23
EtaleOerHeks, yes.19:23
EtaleWell, "quick boot".19:23
OerHeksEtale, indeed, quickboot, oke, continue19:23
TJ-Etale: OK, so it is whilst the kernel is starting and the splash screen is displayed. You can press Escape as soon as the splash-screen appears to have it go away again, to see te boot messages19:24
normalhum!sync19:24
destreAre Lubuntu Kubuntu and the likes behind Ubuntu in any way? Or do they still use the same repos but just come with different packages installed?19:24
ubottuHelpful information for filing a sync request can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess19:24
TJ-destre: different package mixes19:25
EtaleHold on guys. I'm trying to see whether this works or not. It sorta seemed like it did, but then it ejected the DVD and then it complained that there's no "live file system"? I'll try again.19:25
TJ-Etale: The ejection would cause that :D19:25
normalhum!sync19:26
ubottuHelpful information for filing a sync request can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess19:26
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unopastenormalhum you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted19:26
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normalhumhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7858458/19:27
loais nautilus woking with samba mounts bad or it is just me?19:27
syntroPiJokesOnYou77, hmm not quite sure on that one, is '/var/log/gdm/:0.log' empty then?19:27
normalhumhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7858458/19:28
EtaleNo, nada...19:28
normalhumhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7858458/19:28
EtaleStuck on the logo screen again.19:28
normalhumhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7858456/19:28
Ben64!ops | normalhum19:28
ubottunormalhum: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang19:28
EtaleWhen clicking escape, I see a bunch of things it tried doing. It ended with a "Starting Recovery options if display manager fails to start" and then "Ending Recovery options if display manager fails to start".19:29
normalhumhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7858466/19:30
EtaleHmm... I'll try burning the DVD from a different computer...19:30
EtaleMaybe it's just bad data?19:30
syntroPiJokesOnYou77, you also may try nvidia-331 instead of nvidia-current (which depends on nvidia-304)19:31
AaronCampbellEver since the update to Thunderbird 31 (I just did it a couple days ago via the software updater from the standard repo), clicking "reply" on an E-Mail opens a message like normal except the From or Reply-to isn't filled into the To field. Has anyone else seen this?19:32
optrusty!software ubuntu-desktop19:32
rawrmonsterIm pretty sure this is a bug with unity but when i try and open wine programs full screen even with the virtual desktop it fails to go full screen and is blocked in by the unity bar and the top bar as well. In any other desktop enviroment it works perfectly. Am I just doing something wrong? Is there a way to fix this?19:33
dickfeynmanIs the 14.04.1 release out? I'm not getting any upgrade notification from the software-updater.19:33
compdocyes19:34
Ben64dickfeynman: should be out, yeah. what version of ubuntu do you have?19:34
dickfeynmanBen64: I have 12.04 LTS19:34
compdocI had to turn off update notifications because there are so many, it was driving me crazy19:35
compdocbut I have 14.04.119:35
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EtaleThis person claims that Ubuntu 14.04 is incompatible with Thinkpad 440p?19:35
xanguacompdoc: security updates are important19:35
Etale*T440p19:35
Etalehttps://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/24683419:35
Ben64dickfeynman: hmm, i'm not getting a notice about 14.04 either19:36
Bashing-omdickfeynman: Ben64 :; Phased updates from the update manager ? .. maybe try from terminal, see what then resulrs .19:37
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EtaleHow are the different Ubuntu versions different? Is 12 any worse than 14? Aren't the kernels identical?19:38
SharkMa-sannaturally 14 has a newer version of the kernel19:39
Ben64Etale: 12.04 was released in 2012, 14.04 was released in 2014. you can use 14.04's kernel on 12.04, but 14.04 has all newer packages than 12.0419:39
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SharkMa-sanat least for me there is a lot more support for stuff in 14.04, for example the docking station works for me but doesn't in 12.0419:41
SharkMa-santhe laptop in question is a dell model that is also being shipped with ubuntu19:41
SharkMa-sanand yes, it's shipped with 12.0419:42
ballockHappy SysAdmin day to whoever sysadmin on the channel.19:45
ballockAnd while I'm typing, anybody used the GRUB_BADRAM setting? Grub doesn't print a thing when I set it.19:45
JokesOnYou77syntroPi, I'll give that a try as well.  I'm currently playing with changning gnome version19:47
baegleTrying to use iwconfig to change my AP but I think NetworkManager is preventing me19:48
baegleHow do I FORCE my wireless card to reassociate with a specified AP by mac addr of the AP?19:48
zenpacAnyone ever have problems with dbus?19:52
compiledkernelnot usually, no.19:52
zenpacSometimes it gets in a wonky state and needs to be restarted?19:52
zenpaccompiledkernel: I just logged into my Virt/Qemu system and I could not start virt-manager because of a dbus errror.19:53
compiledkernelhmmmm19:53
zenpachttp://askubuntu.com/questions/354967/glib-gerror-no-d-bus-daemon-running seems to have fixed it..19:53
zenpacI'm just trying to see what I did wrong, and how NOT to do it in the future.19:54
AaronCampbellEver since the update to Thunderbird 31 (I just did it a couple days ago via the software updater from the standard repo), clicking "reply" on an E-Mail opens a message like normal except the From or Reply-to isn't filled into the To field and I can't even click into it to fill it myself. Has anyone else seen this?19:57
sockyredsHi, I'm using latest Ubuntu desktop version. Remote Desktop sharing with windows/RealVnc is very slow on the same local network19:57
adeschampsexit19:57
kdzsigh vbox and NAT is crap19:58
bekksWorks like a charm here.19:59
sockyredsany clue/help in right direction to fix performance issue?20:00
nosfetdoes anyone know how to take advantage harddrives with ssd caches ?20:02
plinio_.net20:02
SharkMa-sanbtw, is there a list of Ubuntu IRC channels anywhere? I've been wondering if there is a Finnish one20:02
genii!fi20:03
ubottuTämä kanava on tarkoitettu vain englanninkieliselle keskustelulle. Jos haluat suomenkielistä apua (K)ubuntun ongelmiin, liity kanavalle #ubuntu-fi / #kubuntu-fi :-)20:03
svipHow do I verify which version of Ubuntu I am running?  I am pretty sure I am running 12.04 precise, but I cannot upgrade (it claims to be the newest version).20:04
Ben64svip: cat /etc/issue20:04
SharkMa-sanah, that was the command... but it still would be helpful to have the list available in IRC info page20:04
SharkMa-sanor a link to it20:04
svipBen64: Yeah, I am running 12.04.4 LTS, but update-manager --dist-upgrade won't upgrade.20:04
Ben64svip: i don't think thats the correct command20:05
zenpacHow does one list service start states in 14.0X?20:05
zenpacchkconfig is no more.20:05
Ben64svip: try "sudo do-release-upgrade"20:05
svipBen64: I get a 404 from that.20:06
Ben64svip: 404? huh?20:06
sviphttp://askubuntu.com/questions/462326/upgrade-ubuntu-server-11-04-signature-error20:06
svipI get this error.20:06
Ben64that wouldn't happen on 12.0420:07
svipBen64: Well, it happens here.20:07
Ben64pastebin your actual error20:07
svipBen64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7858749/20:08
Ben64svip: according to that, you're on 12.1020:08
svipBen64: Wat.20:09
Ben64line 9. says quantal20:09
svipBen64: But cat /etc/issue says 12.04.4 LTS!20:09
svipBut all lines in /etc/apt/sources.list says precise.20:09
svipo_O20:09
Ben64actually, it may be trying to upgrade to 12.1020:09
svipIsn't it because it is trying to upgrade to quantal?20:09
Ben64which is still very weird20:09
Picisvip: Are you trying to upgrade to a new release? or just perform a dist-upgrade?20:10
svipPici: Upgrade to a new release.20:10
svipI believe it is time to move on from 12.04.4 LTS.20:10
Ben64svip: open the update manager, go to settings, make sure it's set to upgrade to LTS only20:10
JokesOnYou77TJ-, So I upgraded a bunch of stuff and sort of got X to work again (still no gdm) but now I have no virtual terminals.  WHen I ctrl-alt-F2 I get nothing20:11
Picisvip: or modify /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades to lts20:11
svipPici,Ben64: Well, I changed it to lts (I had changed it to see if anything was working).20:12
svipNow I get a different message.20:12
sviphttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7858769/20:12
svipPici,Ben64: Yeah, update-manager also says the system is up to date.20:13
MarcGuayHi folks.  Ubuntu 14.04.  I'd like to change the Dash shortcut key, any ideas?20:13
Ben64weird, i guess it isn't prompting yet, even though 14.04.1 is out. you can still do the upgrade by "sudo do-release-upgrade -d"20:13
dfosco_Hi, I just did a clean install of 14.04 on my laptop and I am having trouble getting the bluetooth to work.  In the systems settings for bluetooth, everything is gray.  I think I remember doing something with modprobe last time I had this issue.  Any ideas?20:14
svipBen64: Woo.20:14
nvidiaHi, I installed a new graphic driver and CTRL+ALT+F1..F6 is now in a terrible resolution (something like 480x300.. it was 2000x something before. Any idea what's going on and how to get the high resolution? :O20:15
daftykinsnvidia: that doesn't impact functionality, it's just a fact of life with proprietary graphics drivers20:15
daftykinsTTYs become non-native resolution20:15
patarrIs anyone in this channel successfully running a 3+ multi monitor configuration? If so, please let me know what cards you're using.20:15
nvidiadaftykins: but I assume it can be fixed?20:16
ImJuneanyone hom20:16
ImJunee20:16
daftykinsnvidia: sure, uninstall your nvidia driver and go back to nouveau :)20:16
ImJune:)20:16
svipBen64: Oh. :( I did not have enough space for the upgrade.20:16
Ben64svip: :(20:17
nvidiapatarr: you might have to use older graphics driver, because NVidia has limited the amount of screens you can have with one card to match the limit of the window driver (for whatever reason).20:17
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Rapehi20:17
patarrnvidia: I'm running legacy drivers... lmao. These are terrible old quadro cards.20:17
ImJuneI have an IMAC 2013 model, headphone jack does not work know any possible fixes anyone?20:17
patarrnvs series20:17
nvidiapatarr: it was part of an update of their driver: "limit the amount of screens so that it matches that of other operating systems [windows]"20:17
SharkMa-sanisn't ctrl + alt + f1 - f6 to open a terminal?20:18
patarrnvidia: I would really only be running 3.20:18
SharkMa-sanso why should it need a high resolution20:18
patarrBut so far, I have had nothing but trouble with these damn drivers. It could probably be cause im using old obscure cards.. But thats why im asking people in this channel to see what support is like for newer cards.20:18
patarrShould I get some GTX cards or something?20:18
nvidiaSharkMa-san: because it's 480x300 now?20:18
SharkMa-sanI get a normal DOS like text prompt20:19
svipBen64: I guess 25GB for / is too little. :[20:19
Ben64patarr: 3 monitors should work on any recent nvidia card that supports that, 4 or more may be a problem20:19
nvidiaBen64: idk \o/20:19
daftykinsSharkMa-san: no it's a TTY, not a normal terminal application20:20
daftykinsnvidia: look up "ubuntu <your version> nvidia driver native resolution tty" - but it's not an actual problem so i consider it outside support20:21
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SharkMa-sandaftykins: well, I had no idea what it was called, but that's it20:22
imran_how do i initiate upgrade to the new point .1 release for 14.0120:22
SharkMa-sanI've used it several times after having problems with x to get back to the login screen20:22
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Bashing-omsvip: "I guess 25GB for / is too little" most likely not // as I run "/dev/sda1       4.7G  2.0G  2.6G  44% /20:22
svipHeh.20:23
svipWell, if I could tell do-upgrade-release to use a different partition, it would be fine.20:23
Bashing-omsvip: Ya might check and see if /boot full is causing the proble, -> df -h <- .20:23
patarrI hear a lot of should work. But does anyone actually have Xinerama on Nvidia with 3 screens?20:23
svipBashing-om: df -h and du -sh are my pals!20:24
nvidiapatarr: I don't know :/. All I've read is the thing I said. I've never used two screens.20:24
nvidiapatarr: oh, sorry, thought you highligthed me on purpose :p20:25
geniisvip: In a pinch I've used union mount to a dir on another partition for /boot just to get stuff installed. But it's a dirty, dirty workaround.20:25
imran_how do i initiate upgrade to the new point .1 release for 14.0120:25
patarrlmfao you must get highlighted a lot :P20:25
xanguaimran_: there is no ubuntu 14.0120:28
xanguaimran_: if you are using ubuntu 14.04 and keep up to date with security updates you already are in the point release20:28
imran_oops 14.0420:29
imran_how do i confirm that?20:29
Piciimran_: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade20:29
eeeetype lsb_release -a20:29
imran_lsb_release -a20:30
imran_tnx20:30
miquianyone here have experience with sshs?20:32
miquisorry, sshfs...20:33
daftykinsmiqui: ask the next question as if someone had said "yes!"20:33
Rohan_manyone help me in basic http request20:33
reisiodaftykins: oh I like that one20:33
daftykinsreisio: ;)20:34
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PiciRohan_m: what do you mean?20:34
miquitrying to use sshfs to mount a remote dir and simply be able to create  and rw files on the remote fs..20:34
dominikhello. I am new user of ubuntu. earlier i was using manjaro but new laptop do not like manjaro one. Can  u tell me what i have to do here after clear instalation of ubuntu ( 14.04 with unity) on laptop?20:35
aetherixHey I'm looking for a linux alternative for snagit. Any good screen capturing software that you would recommend?20:35
Rohan_mPici: when i send  http://mywpge.com/process.php?var=6+6  I only get 6 there not 6+620:36
aetherixdominik, I would recommend installing the latest updates.20:37
nvidiais there a "quick" setup to make unity behave more like a normal desktop? (look more like windows or something)? I mean, the window's menu bar is at the top of the screen now, etc20:37
xanguanvidia: sudo apt-get install xubuntu kubuntu lubuntu, you choose20:37
dominikyeah yeah i know i done it. but whats more? i used earlier manjaro with kde and xfce.20:37
xanguathey are more 'traditional' desktop enviroments20:38
aetherixdominik, what are you looking for specifically?20:38
nvidiai like the unity application tray though.. I suppose you can't have it in xubuntu?20:39
ramiohello what is the command for c++ ??20:39
nvidiaramio: g++20:39
miquigcc20:39
Guest87698Do you mean he gcc command to cimple a cpp file?20:39
dominiksome tweaks for batery ( sth like power managament ( for powersaving plan and normal work)20:39
ramiog++ project.cpp that is rigth command ?20:39
nvidiayes20:39
ramiook what about gcc that is for what ?20:40
nvidiaramio: g++ is a shorthand for gcc with certain parameters20:40
Guest87698gcc is a frontend for g++ and others20:40
miquiman gcc20:40
nvidiaramio: what guest said is more correct20:40
dominikand some other software what will be helpfull with using mine laptop:)20:40
Guest87698A.K.A you can use gcc for a bunch of diffferent languages vs. g++ which is c++ only20:41
nvidiaramio: gcc executes g++ in the background, but you'll have to give it parameters such as gcc -lang=c++  or something, iirc20:41
ramiook20:42
Guest87698nvidia: You can actuall just do {gcc source.cpp -o source.out}20:43
Guest87698And then20:43
Guest87698{source.out} to run it20:43
ramiothank you people but i have to go ^^ .....20:43
Guest87698Bye20:43
nvidianice, thanks20:43
nvidiabut any reason why i'd do that instead of g++?20:44
Guest87698Maybe if your sources contained multiple languages... honestly for just c++ there is no difference20:44
ImJuneOH lord20:45
ImJunemy nose is bleeding trying to get sound working properly on this IMAC20:45
reisio'cxx'20:45
Guest87698How old is it? Did the sound suddenly fail?20:46
ImJuneno20:46
ImJuneits new20:46
ImJune201420:46
Guest87698And does the IMAC have ubuntu?20:46
ImJunenot the newest20:46
ImJuneyes20:46
ImJuneLOL or I would not come here20:46
JokesOnYou77Hi all.  I got a new kernel image and now I can't start gdm.  I have ruled out the GPU as a problem.  I am able to run sudo startx and get a gnome session as root.  But I can't start gdm20:46
ImJunehmm20:47
Guest87698ImJune: Just checking20:47
ImJuneits ok20:47
aetherixdominik, if you look in the unity menu, you will find energy settings in the settings manager20:47
Guest87698If gdm is failing why not use lightdm?20:47
dominikyeah but its not that what im looking for:)20:47
maciek_sorry if you talking about compilers, clang is also good choice ?20:47
ImJunebasically the headphone jack is the issue20:48
aetherixdominik, and for application, have a look in the Ubuntu store. It's easy to browse them there.20:48
aetherixOh you need a specific setting?20:48
ImJunei5 iris pro20:48
dominikok. ty20:48
ImJunenot the newer one that is dual core20:48
JokesOnYou77I've tried lightdm but it fails when trying to start a gnome session20:48
ImJunethat one is crap20:48
Guest87698imJune: Did ubuntu ever have sound? The drivers might not be compatible. Did you do any updates?20:49
ImJuneI have done all the updates that the software center asks for20:49
ImJuneor ques me to do rather20:49
Guest87698Did the sound ever work?20:49
ImJuneyes20:49
ImJunebefore through speakers20:49
ImJunebut when I plug headphones in the speakers still played sound20:50
ImJuneI am on 14.04lts20:50
imran_exit20:50
RomanGalchinskiiwhat soundcard do u use?20:51
Guest87698Maybe your headphone jack isn't working. I have no idea. You might have to specify the sound output system like I did with wifi on this one laptop20:51
ImJuneNot sure let me check system profile20:51
ImJunethe jack is working fine20:51
ImJuneI had mavericks on it 2 days ago20:52
ImJuneworking perfect20:52
SharkMa-sansystem tray is one of the most annoying things in Unity... you need to install extra packages to get (older) programs to show up there... you'd think it would support the way gnome and kde have handled system tray icons, but no20:52
ImJunedamn this issue20:53
ImJunedo you know the terminal commands to check my soundcard20:53
ImJune?20:54
RomanGalchinskiipci/usb card?20:54
ImJuneits the internal sound card20:54
miquitried : sshfs -o IdentityFile=~/.ssh/myusr.pem -o allow_other,uid=1000,gid=0000 ubuntu@15.125.81.237:/dir ~/mydir20:55
Guest87698Try: sudo lshw. no garantees20:55
miquimnts...ok...but still cannot creata a file..20:55
ImJuneok20:55
JokesOnYou77 I got a new kernel image and now I can't start gdm.  I have ruled out the GPU as a problem.  I am able to run sudo startx and get a gnome session as root.  But I can't start gdm20:56
Guest87698That should tell you all your hardware20:56
ImJuneI think I am going to sell this fuckign machine20:57
bekks!language | ImJune20:57
ubottuImJune: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList20:57
Guest87698Have to leave. BYE20:57
ImJuneok20:58
ImJunesorry20:58
ImJune  description: Audio device              product: 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset High Definition Audio Controller              vendor: Intel Corporation              physical id: 1b              bus info: pci@0000:00:1b.0              version: 05              width: 64 bits              clock: 33MHz              capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list              configuration: driver=snd_hda_intel latency=0            20:58
ImJunethere is the specs20:58
RomanGalchinskiiimjune try lspci, what card do u see?20:58
ImJuneintel sound card20:58
ImJuneits intergrated of course20:59
ImJuneIm dead tired already trying to fix this21:00
ImJune6 am here in Japan21:00
ImJuneI would have better luck building a machine from scratch21:00
chief-imochheya. need some help on activating ttyS0. Gone through the serialconsole howto on ubuntu. created the /etc/init/ttyS0.conf file, but when trying to start getty, i get the message :start: unknown job: getty..21:01
ImJuneI built one for my mother in law for less than 300 usd installed ubuntu and everything works brilliant on it21:01
RomanGalchinskiitry system settings -> a sound -> put a priority on this sound card21:02
ImJuneok21:03
reisioImJune: what's the problem?21:03
ImJunethank you I will try21:03
RomanGalchinskiitry ctr+alt+t -> alsamixer and look at settings21:03
Bashing-omJokesOnYou77: Maybe a victum of this bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1347964 ; <-Precise w/Trusty HWE -> Trusty release upgrade fails : ubuntu-desktop fails to configure (importance:High → Critical) ??21:03
ubottuUbuntu bug 1347964 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "Precise w/Trusty HWE -> Trusty release upgrade fails : ubuntu-desktop fails to configure" [Critical,Triaged]21:03
ImJuneno go21:04
JokesOnYou77Bashing-om, I didn't upgrade form anything unfortunately, just apt-get upgrade and got a new kernel image21:07
ImJuneperhaps need a reboot21:08
ImJuneare you around often?21:08
ImJune@Roman_?21:08
ZZRMikeI just installed kubuntu 14.04 on my lenovo u430 and I'm having an issue with the wireless connection on it. If I'm tethered to my phone via wifi it works fine, but as soon as I try connecting to a regular router it works for a few seconds then stops working.21:09
theadminZZRMike: Sounds like a driver problem here, or maybe hardware.21:09
theadminZZRMike: Did it work fine in your previous OS?21:10
ImJuneGood bye21:10
ImJuneIm a human unfortunately I do need sleep21:10
ImJunebye21:10
ZZRMiketheadmin: it worked fine in windows21:10
theadminZZRMike: Okay then. Tether with your phone and find "Hardware Drivers" (or "Additional Drivers") in your settings for me, please21:11
theadminZZRMike: See if it's got anything for your wireless card21:11
ZZRMiketheadmin: nothing21:12
theadminZZRMike: That's not nice... Do you know your wireless card model?21:12
JokesOnYou77How do I debug gdm startup?  I need to see what it's doing as it starts21:12
ZZRMikeI just dug it up, it's the intel 726021:13
Bashing-omJokesOnYou77: Point is // were you on the Hardware Enablemant Stacj with release 12.04 , and the "kernel" upgraded with a hosed up desk top  ?21:13
Ozera||Anyone have an idea on how to install a win7 iso onto a usb using ubuntu 12.04 ? I tried winUSB which didn't burn the iso correctly and I also tried unetbootin which has an infinite boot sequence error . This is using ubuntu 12.0421:13
JokesOnYou77Bashing-om, ?21:13
JokesOnYou77Bashing-om, I'm ... not sure21:13
theadminZZRMike: okay I have no idea, haven't dealt with Intel cards under Linux, sorry21:14
JokesOnYou77Bashing-om, How do I tell?21:14
ZZRMiketheadmin: thanks anyway, I'll do some more digging around, I can't be the first person using *ubuntu with this nic21:14
Bashing-omJokesOnYou77: What returns -> lsb_release -a , uname -r <- .. to see the release and kernel you are running.21:15
theadminOzera||: WinUSB works fine with legal Windows images, if you're using a pirated one you may run into issues though.21:18
theadminI haven't had any issues with it, myself21:18
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dfoscoHi, I have added a location to my clock applet, but when I press delete it doesn't go away.  Any ideas?21:20
JokesOnYou77Bashing-om, oh, I know my image version off the top of my head (I went through three versions while debugging his problem): 13.13.0-32-generic21:20
Bashing-omJokesOnYou77: OK, 13.13 is 'trusty'; so did you install 14.04, OR upgrade from 12.04 w/HES ??21:22
JokesOnYou77Bashing-om, I installed 14.04 server21:23
Guest97258cler21:23
Guest97258clear21:24
Bashing-omJokesOnYou77: Good, then that bug I referenced does not apply to you. W hat results when you boot the system to TTY1 .. and then from the terminal try and start GDM ??21:25
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ZZRMikeHow do I tell ubuntu to use a different driver version for my network card?21:26
JokesOnYou77Bashing-om, It says started process then it gives a pid.  Then I get my prompt back.  And when I go back to the X view (whatever TTY7 is) it still shows the boot messages and at the bottom it shows Starting Gnome Display Manager    [Failed]21:27
reisioZZRMike: the most straightforward way, IMO, is to uninstall or wholly disable the drivers you don't want to use, and do the opposite for those you do21:27
reisioZZRMike: in Ubuntu that'd probably take the form of module blacklisting21:27
OerHeks!hcl > OerHeks21:27
ubottuOerHeks, please see my private message21:27
Bashing-omJokesOnYou77: , not much to work with, huh .. Time to read the logs .. Take a read in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Anything there of note ?21:29
TJ-JokesOnYou77: Still suffering? :(21:33
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TJ-Bashing-om: My investigations earlier point to gdm not even trying to start X ... certainly no Xorg.0.log was being created... My thought was something in the GDM config files read by the init script was wrong21:35
JokesOnYou77Bashing-om, I started there actually. The error with gdm makes it so that X never actually gets started so the Xorg log never changes.21:35
JokesOnYou77TJ-, you're back! MY hero!21:35
TJ-JokesOnYou77: sorry... had to go make dinner :)21:36
TJ-JokesOnYou77: Unfortunately I don't have any VMs here with GDM in so I can't test it21:37
JokesOnYou77TJ-, Bashing-om I actually managed to get an X sessions with gnome to start.  But I can't get the gdm greeter, and the session that starts is under root.  I havne't been able to start X as me.  AND my .Xauthority file is owned by root.  I tried chowning it, and delting it but that didn't seem to fix the gdm problem21:37
JokesOnYou77TJ-, :<21:37
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TJ-JokesOnYou77: what does this show? "pastebinit /etc/init/gdm.conf"21:39
JokesOnYou77TJ-, What I'd really like is to be able to do is get print statements from the gdm start process21:40
ImJunenow sound doesnt work at all21:41
JokesOnYou77TJ-, YOu read my mind, I've got it open in vim21:41
ImJunehmm21:43
NovartisWhat's the difference between .unix and .am?21:43
JokesOnYou77http://paste.ubuntu.com/7859416/21:44
bekksNovartis: In which context?21:44
ImJuneIf I roll back to an older kernel is it possible this sound issue may be resolved21:44
curx? every time i hit startx for ubuntu it starts gnome  and i can't make out or see a damn thing how to fix pls!21:44
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jeffreylevesqueI have a windows machine.  I want to do dual boot.  I messed up the first time.  So, I'm wiping out the entire disk.  Might as well do things properly now.  Should I set up two disks?21:45
NovartisTrying to compile a daemon bekks, very unexperienced. Most tutorials are indicating I should make -f foo.unix, but I only have foo.am and foo.in to work with21:45
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bekkscurx: startx isnt used to start X for ages now. Use lightdm to start X.21:45
NovartisSo I'm trying ./configure and some other things21:45
reisioNovartis: that is probably just meant to distinguish from a 'foo' that is not meant for unix21:45
bekksNovartis: File extension mean nothing in linux.21:45
reisiothat is, 'make' the _unix version_ if there are multiple versions21:45
reisiomany apps have different versions for different OSes21:45
k1lcurx: start the lightdm and use the login screen to choose the desktop you want to run21:46
ImJuneI will buy a USB sound card21:46
ImJunestuff this21:46
reisioImJune: :)21:46
reisiohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Configure_script21:46
morgenman_Hello! Can I get a reccomdation, I have a dell netbook with an atom processor and 1gb of ram and am currently running tiny7 on it. I have a hd with a plethora of hd movies in mp4 and mkv (regular and 10bit). I am going to be putting a media center distro, however I am not sure which one is the best for such low specs. Currently in the windoze, vlc will freeze up on pretty much any video larger than 480p {however wms plays my hd vid21:47
curxbekks k1l it's a screen rez error or undetected gpu or something21:47
curxis there a quick fix21:47
NovartisI've been looking at this reisio :) But I have no idea what .am or .in files are... But now bekks is saying that file extensions mean nothing so how do you even know what to compile without really reading into it?21:47
bekkscurx: Not without telling us the exact, full error message.21:47
k1lcurx: first make sure the file sin your /home belong to you user:user. then see what error that exactly is and show it to us21:47
reisioNovartis: usually there is a readme file21:48
ImJunecrazy I install xubuntu on an old eee pc 1003hg (docomo model) it runs perfect fully functional21:48
reisioNovartis: otherwise it's just the commands there, './configure', 'make', and 'make install'21:48
ImJune1,300 dollar machine and all these issues lol21:48
morgenman_how does it do on hd videos?21:48
reisioNovartis: alternatively, it could be quite a bad app that is hard to build :)21:48
NovartisHaha, that's possible, thanks Reisio :)21:49
NovartisAnd thanks Bekks ^_^21:49
Ozera||does anyone use unetbootin here?21:49
curxit's a previous hard drive for a old machine running a outdated distro of ubuntu  the screen rez and what not is not detected any suggestions ?21:49
ImJuneI used unetbootin21:50
ImJunewhy21:50
bekkscurx: Whats the exact, full error message?21:50
TJ-JokesOnYou77: To debug the Upstart script, first do "initctl log-priority debug"21:50
curxis there a F key to hit to run in a safe mode21:51
TJ-JokesOnYou77: Then try starting the service. I *think* the log goes to "/var/log/syslog" but I may be wrong there21:51
Ozera||ImJune, I tried using unetbootin for installing win7 iso onto my usb on a ubuntu 12.04 machine. When I from that usb, it gets stuck at unetbootin bootup menu21:51
Ozera||and it countdown from 10 to auto boot, but then it just starts the countdown again. Do you know how to fix/21:52
curxto dummy out my graphics card to make the screen rez somewhat usable21:52
ImJuneI have only ever used that to install linux distros21:52
bekkscurx: Whats the exact, full error message?21:52
ImJuneI never heard of people using it to install windows21:52
ImJunecan you burn a disc?21:52
TJ-JokesOnYou77: To add complete line-by-line output to the gdm.conf Upstart job, at the top of the file (after comments) add "exec > /tmp/gdm.log 2>&1"  followed by  "set -x", save, and then try starting it and then check "/tmp/gdm.log"21:53
Bashing-omJokesOnYou77: See TJ-'s last 2 entries // also have you checked that all the files referenced in " /etc/init/gdm.conf " all all there ?21:53
Ozera||ImJune, I think my cd/dvd drive is broken. It won't recognize my dvd that I currently have in there21:53
curxbekks theres no error the drive was setup for a machine that had a small rez going into a bigger rez is there a dummy F key before boot so i can get some desent viewing screen when i boot gnome21:53
Ozera||DVD +R iirc21:53
ImJuneoh no21:54
k1l_curx: rename the xorg.conf21:54
ImJunehave you tried another disc21:54
reisioOzera||: http://serverfault.com/questions/6714/how-to-make-windows-7-usb-flash-install-media-from-linux#answer-16706021:54
k1l_curx: but all that is just guessing. so get the demanded facts and error messages so you can actually recieve some help21:54
ImJunetry that link he just posted21:54
curxthanks k1l21:55
wooshmiHmm, guys, do you have any idea why my Software Updater for ubuntu is stuck on the launcher and I can't open it? (Just reinstalled 14.04)21:55
Ozera||reisio, ._. looks scary21:56
nvidiahi, how do I connect to a remote ubuntu machine (that is showing its login screen) graphically?21:56
ImJunehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure21:56
ImJunefound this21:57
ImJunewish they made one for 14.04 lts21:57
morgenman_hmm does anybody have a rec. for the mediacenter on crappy specs?21:57
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curxsorry where is the xorg.conf file usualy located k1l21:58
k1l_/etc/X11/21:58
reisioOzera||: it's very straightforward21:58
Bashing-omwooshmi: Any hints when updateing from the terminal ? -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade < -.21:58
curxsudo apt-get install update21:59
wooshmiBashing-om: update returns "Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored or old ones used instead" and the upgrade doesn't do anything (0 upgraded / 0 ...)22:00
pdo_fn14wooshmi: are you using some dead repos?.22:01
wooshmipdo_fn14: i've just added a repo in order to download smuxi - that's the only dead one22:02
sydneyWhy is ubutnu 14.04 so much slower than 12.04?22:02
Ozera||how do I isntall ms-sys after dling it from sourceforge?22:02
Bashing-omwooshmi: Well, that ain't good ..... can you pastebin the entire commands outputs , let's get things in context, see if we can find what the package manager is unhappy about.22:03
wooshmiBashing-om: sure, I'm doing that right now. I'll send you the link22:05
Bashing-omwooshmi: k .22:05
wooshmiBashing-om: here it is: http://pastebin.com/UJcmmzxB22:06
Nivex14.04.1 is out (I see the CD images on the mirrors), but do-release-upgrade -c on a 12.04.4 box is still showing no upgrade available.22:07
Bashing-omwooshmi: look'n at your /UJcmmzxB .22:07
TJ-Nivex: waiting for the mirrors to sync I think, when Trusty appears in the meta list it'll be available: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts22:07
ZZRMikeI created an ssh key using "ssh-keygen -t rsa" and then I on my server I went to ~/.ssh/ and appended the text from my public key to authorized_keys, but when I try to connect to my server it says "Permission denied (publickey)"22:07
NivexTJ-: I've been mashing refresh on that URL already. :)22:07
TJ-Nivex: :) patience22:08
ZZRMikeI'm assuming there's a step that I'm missing, but I can't figure out what it is =/22:08
root___thank u 1 million time k1l22:08
NivexTJ-: I can only lose so many games of solitaire :)22:08
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curxthank u k1l22:08
TJ-ZZRMike: Usually we transfer ssh keys using "ssh-copy-id"22:08
curxi have a screen again22:08
Ozera||I downloaded Unetbootin version 494, but how do I install it?22:11
Ozera||its an executable22:11
Ozera||or how do I run it22:11
Bashing-omwooshmi: "Err http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main amd64 Packages" and " Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/meebey/ppa/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found " // says we need to look at the 3rd pary fetches. ( bet it is s PPA that is not supported yet in trusty) .. pastebin -> tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* <- and let's see what we got.22:11
TJ-JokesOnYou77: Did you "apt-get install gnome-shell" originally to get the GUI? I'm replicating your config here in a VM22:12
EtaleHi all, I'm back. If you recall I have a Lenovo T440p, and my installer was stuck on the logo22:13
ZZRMikeTJ- I used that and it is still asking me for my user password upon login22:13
EtaleApparently, if I change the bios to Legacy, this no longer happens.22:13
EtaleIs that a reasonable solution, just to keep it on legacy?22:13
EtaleI want to dual boot with Windows 8.22:13
ZZRMikeEtale: can you install in legacy mode and then reset bios after?22:13
EtaleAnother option there is to do "both" legacy and EFI, while trying Legacy first. Is that preferable? Are all of these options terrible?22:13
EtaleOh, maybe, ZZRMike...22:14
TJ-ZZRMike: So you copied over ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub ?22:14
ZZRMikeTJ- Correct22:14
David17059Hello everybody-22:14
TJ-ZZRMike: first, try getting more debug info locally by using "ssh -vvv ..." If that doesn't give enough clues, on the server, check "/var/log/auth.log"22:15
David17059I'm having WiFi connectivity issues if anyone is able to assist, I'd Appreciate it immensely22:16
David17059I'm... a Linux noob lol22:16
TJ-Etale: Switching over to an EFI boot configuration is a rather convoluted operation22:16
ZZRMikeDavid17059: What's your issue?22:17
EtaleTJ-, ZZRMike, is there any downside to just staying with legacy forever?22:17
ZZRMikeEtale: To be honest, I don't know. I would assume no, but my understanding of EFI is limited.22:18
TJ-Etale: It kind of defeats the point of EFI and might get annoying having to select between them, depends on how the UEFI firmware handles it22:18
TJ-Etale: As the disk is a GPT EFI bootable it'll default to to using EFI and starting the default OS22:19
EtaleI don't understand anything. What is EFI even for? How is it helpful?22:19
kikkociao a tutti22:20
svipBen64: That upgrade did not go as smooth as I would have hoped... ;[ now when I log in, all I get is a black screen (I guess because my desktop background is black) with no panels or any error.22:20
David17059ZZRMike: I'm using an ubuntu based distro on an old netbook of mine. Though I was to do so before, I can't view any wifi networks only add them manually. (using the only network settings I can find "Edit Connections")22:20
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ubottuEtale: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI22:21
Bashing-omEtale: For startrsd, support for larger hard drives, better partitoning, and is faster then 'legacy'when using UEFI (EFI) .22:21
akurilinWhat does it usually mean when you try to start an application from cmdline and you're told "Error: Can't open X display. It *is* running, yeah?"22:21
akuriline.g. I can't use scrot right now22:21
akurilinWill work ok if I reboot22:22
TJ-Etale: when you had the system start the installer, were you able to 'lose' the splash and see kernel messages scrolling by until it froze?22:22
svipChanging session doesn't help either. :/  Same case with GNOME.22:22
Etale!efi22:22
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI22:22
* TJ- wonders if that laptop has an issue with efifb (EFI FrameBuffer display driver)22:22
ObrienDaveEtale, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface22:23
EtaleSo the downside to using legacy all the time is that the computer will be slower? Is that noticeable?22:23
svipIt also said it couldn't load the splash screen, but I didn't consider that so problematic.22:23
TJ-Etale: Boot will be slightly slower, and more annoying since you'll have to manually select a BIOS-only boot (if the firmware allows that) to boot Ubuntu22:24
TJ-ubunt22:24
ZZRMikeTJ- I tried running it with -vvv and it says "we sent a publickey packet, waiting for reply"  and then says "Authentications that can continue: publickey, password" then searches for other possible private keys and then reverts to password, any idea?22:26
PiciZZRMike: Are the usernames the same on each system? If not, are you specifying the username in the connect string?22:28
wojtekogarniamocmozna normalnie gadac tu ?:D22:29
ZZRMikePici: same username, but I also tried specifying the username also22:29
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TJ-ZZRMike: OK, so look at the server's "/var/log/auth.log"22:30
PiciZZRMike: Do you have a password to the server? Typically I just trust ssh-copy-id to do the work for me if I can.22:30
svipHow do I tell apt-get/aptitude to just remove all packages that depend on an abstract package?22:32
ZZRMikeTJ-: I can't see anything that stands out, I've got "tail -f /var/log/auth.log" in another session22:32
svipUpgrading with texlive-full installed has made things rather weird.22:32
svipBut I don't mind just getting rid of everything texlive for now.22:32
Bashing-omsvip: How did you install 'texlive' ?22:34
kikkoaiuto22:35
kikkonon parlo inglese22:35
svipBashing-om: apt-get install texlive-full22:35
TJ-ZZRMike: did you try removing the entry from authorized_keys and using 'ssh-copy-id' to put it back in?22:36
ZZRMikePici: as in can I log in with a password?22:36
PiciZZRMike: yes.22:36
ZZRMikeTJ- no, I'll give that a try.22:36
Bashing-omsvip: Then, if the package manager is in a hppsy state, one could do -> sudo apt-get remove texlive-full <- to remove it ( and leave the config files) .22:36
kikkoitaliano22:36
svipBashing-om: That didn't work, so I just removed all the packages it was bothered about manually.22:37
svipBecause it upgraded some of the packages, but not all.22:37
svipBashing-om: I decided to purge, because I cannot really use tex configuration anyway.22:37
codygmanWhat is an easy way to check the status of a running upstart program from a another upstart managed program? I know I could just use the output of the shell command "service programname status", but was wondering if there was a better way.22:38
TJ-codygman: It's usually "initctl status JOB" for Upstart only. 'service' handles sysV init scripts too.22:39
Bashing-omsvip: OH no ! .. manually rm'n packages behind the package manager's back is not a good thing to do // What now returns from -> sudo apt-get -f install <- ?22:40
codygmanTJ-: Oh okay.22:40
svipBashing-om: No, I mean through the package manager, by telling specifically all the packages I wanted to remove.22:40
ZZRMikeTJ-, Pici, figured it out, apparently ssh was configured to point at a different location for authorized_keys...22:41
kikkokikko(e.ballicu@gmail.com)22:41
ZZRMikeTime to waddle over to the noob corner with my dunce cap22:41
svipBashing-om: However, how do I step through the output of a command?  apt-get dist-upgrade is telling me it will delete 56 packages, but I cannot tell which.22:41
svipScroll lock wasn't much help, because the output is simply too fast.22:41
jackarius86does anyone know why the reset command in aterm only resets what the screen is showing, and nothing before that?22:42
Bashing-omsvip: OK, much better // So the PM removed texlive // yes ? .. now what is the particular problem ?22:42
EtaleOkay, I'm back. To remind you I'm doing a dual boot Ubuntu Windows. I'm in the installation now. I'm at the stage of determining partitions. Should I allocate a partition to swap, or is that automatic?22:42
ZZRMikeEtale: this is the guide that I used and it seems to have worked well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQzmI_30nJM22:43
EtaleThanks22:43
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Etaleomg the music, ZZRMike!22:46
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svipBashing-om: That I cannot see what is going to be removed.22:47
svipBashing-om: Because it is above the terminal's size.22:47
svipI don't just accept a dist-upgrade removing 52 packages without knowing what they are.22:48
svipBut without X running, there are no scroll bars or whatever, I am just in a tty.22:48
EtaleOkay, so he makes one which is ext2 mounted on boot that is only 256MB in size? Should I also have mine that small? Or does it depend on how much RAM I have? (Which is a lot: 16GB)22:48
EtaleSorry, 248MB.22:48
Bashing-omsvip: Whoh, that much to be removed, can not be a good thing ! how about something like -> sudo apt-get remove -s texlive-full > go.txt <- which will "simulate" what it will do and post that info to the txt file 'go.txt' . Yeah, best look real close !22:50
Etale65GB should be more than enough for the windows partition, right?22:50
svipBashing-om: Ah, that worked.22:51
svipBashing-om: By the way, I am past texlive now, and moved onto dist-upgrade.22:51
Bashing-omsvip: Like you, we really want to know why that much and what is to be removed .. why oh why !22:52
svipBashing-om: Eh, most of it was old packages, like apache2 and ubuntuone.22:53
ProfessorKaos64I saw the report that kernel 3.13.0-32 was released, but when I go to upgrade, it is held back. Is there a dependency I am missing?22:53
Bashing-omsvip: Before 'dist-upgrade' have you run update and regular upgrade commands ?22:53
svipBashing-om: Of course.22:54
svipI looked at the list of packages to remove, none of them worry me.22:54
svipThey are just related to all sorts of utils I've installed, like ghostscript and imagemagick.22:55
svipNone of them are system critical.22:55
imduffy15Hi all. I'm wanting to authenticate pam users against active directory. I have a few odd requirements though, 1) the machine cannot join the domain. 2) active directory can not be extended with unix identity management to expose a posix ldap. Any solutions?22:57
Bashing-omsvip: Great ! Good to go, huh .22:59
Bashing-omProfessorKaos64: To install the 'held' kernel; terminal commands -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade , sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <- .23:01
ProfessorKaos64ah dist upgrade, ok. It didn't seem to solve the sony hid regression anyway. I did an "install -y kernel.. blah blah" and specified the packages23:02
ProfessorKaos64that worked, but I got a black screen on reboot23:02
ProfessorKaos64restarted as was fine23:02
Bashing-omProfessorKaos64: It's 'buntu, many roads to an end. Glad it worked out for ya.23:03
ProfessorKaos64Didn't fix this bug, but I was hopeful https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/132672523:03
ubottuUbuntu bug 1326725 in linux (Ubuntu) "PS3 Sixaxis controller/joystick usb stopped working, regression in linux-image-extra-3.13.0-27-generic" [Medium,Confirmed]23:03
ProfessorKaos64Another user report it may have, but I must have read it wrong (at the end by the ps3 user)23:03
Bashing-omProfessorKaos64: Lemme have a read of it, see what pops into my mind.23:04
ProfessorKaos64ok, my rents are coming back down to my house, the last few comments are where the latest is, I'm nano_ex3 there23:05
ProfessorKaos64Could you send a PM to me if you find anything? I appreciate the help. I won't miss the PM vs. channel chatter23:05
kingsleyHow would you try to restore a missing mouse pointer and gnome task bar after upgrading? For what it's worth, I seem to recall having to configure the computer to use an old version of gnome to render all characters the last time I upgraded because the computer is old and underpowered.23:06
vexati0nit's 2014, old computers are illegal.23:07
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kingsleyvexati0n: I appreciate the irony.23:13
Bashing-omProfessorKaos64: Not a thing I can add, looks like we got to wait for the smart folks to make the patch.23:16
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uniqdomguys... i want to install debian in a laptop. It is an Acer, with Windows 8. I'm in the installation, in the partition step. the hdd already have 4 primary partitions. 1: ntfs 629MB, 2: efi 314MB, 3: ntfs 482GB and 4: ntfs 16GB. How to proceed?23:18
uniqdomi mean ubuntu* ...23:18
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uniqdomshould i resize 3, and create an extended partition? is that going to work?23:19
Bashing-omuniqdom: I am Winows Illitterate, but, Win8 = UEFI =GPT partitoning, and that 4 primary partitons no longer applies.23:19
noobhelp! I don't see the unity luancher23:19
noob*launcher23:19
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ramza099ehllo can i get help here23:20
Guest87567i lost the unity launcher somehow23:20
uniqdomsure you can23:20
uniqdomBashing-om: you mean that i can have 5 primary partitions?23:20
ramza099i try to install ubuntu from live cd but it screen flashes then it gets to desktop and its too blurry to see23:21
ramza09914.04, processor amd a6-3620, radeon hd 6530d graphics23:21
Bashing-omuniqdom: Yepper .. and more .. MBR booting had that 4 primary partitions limitation .. UEFI does not .. boot up in UEFI mode and the installer should do just fine .23:22
plopmy unity launcher is missing.23:22
ramza099i tried to lookup this problem but i cant find a answer23:23
uniqdomso can i resize partition number 3, and create a new primary partition there?23:23
plopsomething got changed and i don't know what23:23
Bashing-omramza099: What is the graphics situation ? hybrid ? Nvidia ATI intel ? ...23:24
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ramza099its a onboard ati23:25
ramza099hd 6530d graphics23:26
plop....23:26
Bashing-om ramza099 ATI, try booting with the "nomodeset" boot option: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 <- How to set NOMODESET and other kernel boot options in grub2 .23:27
ramza099ok ill look into that now23:28
BhAwNhey guys23:28
uniqdomBashing-om, is it ok to set the bootloader to /dev/sda?23:29
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plopi lost my icons and stuff on ubuntu. help. I tried everything. sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop23:31
Bashing-omplop: Maybe: to set compiz (unity) back to defaults use -> dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ <- , Then reload with...-> setsid unity < -.23:31
BhAwNhey guys23:32
BhAwNam new to irc thing23:32
BhAwNwhat is it good for?23:32
plopok, will try23:32
Bashing-omuniqdom: Nope ... on bootloader IF UEFI should have a .efi partition for the bootloader. Bootloaader to 'sda' would apply for MBR booting !23:33
uniqdomok :)23:34
ramza099where and when do i type nomodeset?23:34
Jeffrey_fBhAwN: IRC is like instant messaging, just with groups of people of common interest.23:34
Bashing-omBhAwN: IRC is many talk to many at the same time .. on any of thousands of channels.23:34
BhAwNso how do we find messages in this clusterfuck23:35
BhAwNall text23:35
BhAwNi can't even see my own messages23:35
daftykinsBhAwN: first off please keep the talk family friendly, secondly, unfortunately this is a channel for ubuntu support only - not general chat. Please visit #ubuntu-offtopic or #freenode to talk about IRC in general23:35
Jeffrey_fBhAwN: are you chatting on the web interface or via a chat client??23:35
Bashing-om!language | BhAwN23:35
ubottuBhAwN: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList23:35
BhAwNXchat23:35
BhAwNOkay. Sorry23:36
Bashing-omramza099: Have you been able to boot up the liveDVD to the desk top ? and now you want to install the release ?23:37
plopthat did not work23:37
plopany other ideas23:38
ramza099whenever i run live dvd i cannot see desktop its so blurry its unreadable23:38
plopcompiz is broken somehow23:38
Bashing-omplop: A resolution issue ? in that the launcher is - of the screen - ??23:38
plopthe resolution is fine i see the desktop background23:39
plopits the icons and stuff that are missing23:39
plopi can't even right click23:39
plopi could move the mouse23:40
plopim using my laptop to chat while my computer has a broken unity23:41
Bashing-omramza099: OK, driver issue .. boot the liveDVD, soon as the bios screen clears depress the right sshift key -> language screen, escape key to accept the default -> boot options screen -> F6 key for the presets -> choose "nomodeset" space or enter to accept and then the escape key to exit; enter key to continue the boot process.23:41
DJJeffhttp://i.imgur.com/bq1xfNe.png23:43
DJJeffdoes this no longer work in 14.04?23:43
DJJeffhaving eth0:1 in /etc/network/interfaces23:43
ramza099ok im going to try23:43
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DJJeff# ifconfig eth0:1 up23:45
DJJeffSIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address23:45
DJJeffnot very detailed of an error23:45
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plopi tried this http://askubuntu.com/questions/465216/unity-launcher-icon-edges-disappeared-in-14-0423:51
plopnothing works23:51
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Jeffrey_fhelp version23:54
plopi tried this, too. http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html23:54
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Bashing-omplop: Maybe " And a final note: the old "unity --reset-icons" command which resets the Unity Launcher icons to default still works with Ubuntu 14.04, 13.10 and 13.04. " ??23:56
plopi tried that, too23:56
plopI'll try again23:56
daftykinsplop: i take it you tried a guest account and saw everything fine there?23:57
svipWhy can't I hold down alt to drag windows? O_o23:57
plopno, did not tried that23:57
plopi get connection refused in some places when i typed unity --reset-icons23:58
ploplet me try the guest account and see.23:59

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