[00:00] <TJ-> zaltekk: I asked earlier:  "Does the system have only one audio device? sometimes an HDMI audio device gets listed first and becomes the default device" ... looking at that output, that could be what has happened. the module has found the devices, but HDMI is the first device configured
[00:00] <TJ-> zaltekk: look at offset 21.86 seconds
[00:00] <zaltekk> TJ-: no devices are displayed by aplay -l
[00:00] <zaltekk> so it isn't an issue of selecting the correct device
[00:00] <zaltekk> i can't play audio over hdmi right now either
[00:00] <TJ-> zaltekk: So alsa is not finding the kernel-configured devices
[00:01] <TJ-> zaltekk: that helps narrow the issue down
[00:01] <zaltekk> shit.
[00:01] <zaltekk> TJ-:
[00:01] <zaltekk> as root i see them with aplay -l
[00:01] <zaltekk> *sigh* shouldn've tried that a long time ago
[00:01] <OerHeks> Nimble, so you want to fool an SSH login ? like http://www.janusz.nl/how-to-deploy-kippo-ssh-honeypot-on-ubuntu/
[00:01] <Nimble> I guess
[00:01] <Nimble> I want to maintain a tunnel with a computer
[00:02] <Nimble> but I don't want the user on the other side of the tunnel to have a legitimate shell
[00:02] <okabe> is there a way to add other directories for dash to index?
[00:02] <Nimble> I'm setting up a reverse shell
[00:02] <Nimble> to get through a NAT
[00:02] <theToastIsDone> hi guys... i guess this is a generic bash question about finding and copying files... is there a better channel to do that in?
[00:02] <zaltekk> all for not. somehow i got removed from the audio group when installing and reinstalling packages
[00:03] <zaltekk> and users
[00:03] <TJ-> zaltekk: aha!
[00:03] <zaltekk> no idea what could've done that. i removed the kubuntu package because i never leave i3 now
[00:03] <Nimble> OerHeks, nothing shows up on that page. Is the content loaded by javascript? If so, that's disappointing.
[00:03] <zaltekk> i wonder if that somehow removed me from groups
[00:04] <Bashing-om> zaltekk: :: TJ- ; Not for naught, I found the exercise instructive !
[00:04] <OerHeks> Nimble, i think so yes, just an blog
[00:04] <zaltekk> going to restart back to the stock kernel module and see if it works(i assume it will)
[00:04] <TJ-> zaltekk: I can imagine a scenario if a package removed and recreated the audio group, but I can't imagine such a core user account having that done to it
[00:05] <Nimble> OerHeks, okay, well I don't care about faking a whole shell as the user will not actually be needing anything other than to keep the connection alive
[00:05] <Nimble> so I don't want to set up a full blown honeypot
[00:06] <Nimble> OerHeks, I've seen some people say that you can use /bin/false or /usr/sbin/nologin as the default shell for a user, but those programs exit
[00:06] <Vyse007> Guys, my localtime is always 4 hours behind the Universal time and the RTC time as shown by 'timedatectl status'. How do I fix this?
[00:06] <Nimble> and I'm not sure if that will also close the connection
[00:06] <TJ-> Nimble: Surely you just need something like "command="sleep 172800" " in "~/.ssh/authorized_keys" of the remote server?
[00:07] <Nimble> TJ-, well, O
[00:07] <Nimble> whoops
[00:07] <TJ-> Nimble: That's how I do it for relayed reverse remote SSH support
[00:07] <Nimble> TJ-, well, I'd prefer that the other end can't adjust it at all
[00:07] <Bashing-om> Vyse007: Dual booting with Windows ?
[00:08] <Vyse007> Bashing-om: Nope, running in VM.
[00:08] <ObrienDave> jon-work, 14.04.1 is available through sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:08] <Nimble> I don't want other curious admins poking around at what's on the user's screen session and being able to get a shell to a different computer
[00:08] <TJ-> Nimble: Use a RemoteForward as well? have a separate account to connect to, then use RemoteForward and 'nc' to link them over a TCP localhost connection on the remote host?
[00:08] <jon-work> ObrienDave, it doesn't work for me. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[00:09] <Nimble> is RemoteForward the -R option?
[00:09] <ObrienDave> jon-work, try, cat /etc/issue
[00:09] <jon-work> Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l
[00:09] <paulo_> hello
[00:10] <ObrienDave> jon-work, ok, you'll have to wait for the official release
[00:10] <k1l_> !ltsupgrade | jon-work
[00:10] <jon-work> lol?
[00:10] <jon-work> is today not july 24th?
[00:10] <k1l_> jon-work: apt-get dist-upgrade will not make it to 14.04
[00:10] <jon-work> 14.04.1?
[00:10] <k1l_> jon-work: you need "do-release-upgrade" for that if you are on 12.04
[00:11] <jon-work> Ubuntu 14.04.1 is due for release on 24th July,
[00:11] <jon-work> what does this mean?
[00:11] <Nimble> TJ-, do you mean the -R option?
[00:11] <paulo_> I need a kernel's debugging symbols. how do I get this without debugging?
[00:11] <k1l_> jon-work: you run the wrong commands.
[00:11] <jon-work> so 14.04.1 is not going to be released on july 24th, is that right?
[00:11] <k1l_> jon-work: stop
[00:11] <TJ-> Nimble: have you ever seen pwnat? ( http://samy.pl/pwnat/  )
[00:12] <k1l_> jon-work: do a "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[00:12] <zaltekk> TJ-: not sure. like i said, i removed a lot of the core "desktop" packages
[00:12] <Nimble> never, TJ-
[00:12] <zaltekk> and xorg was pratically reinstalled
[00:12] <blur702> When adding a virtual host to apache, where do I add the directives? I'm just used to adding the < virtualhost> info in the apache.conf..
[00:12] <jon-work> Checking for a new Ubuntu release
[00:12] <jon-work> No new release found
[00:12] <Nimble> but I'll check it out, it looks like I might be able to use it
[00:13] <k1l_> jon-work: right: no announcement so far: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2014-July/date.html
[00:13] <usr_> Today is 14.04.1 Release Date.  Where is 12.04 to 14.04 update?
[00:13] <jon-work> lol
[00:13] <Nimble> TJ-, this looks like it will solve several other issues for me that I haven't even gotten to yet, so thanks a lot!
[00:14] <angel_> hi, i have an ubuntu live usb and an acer aspire p3 that i want to format but i can't get it to boot from the usb
[00:14] <ObrienDave> angel_, you need to set USB booting up in BIOS
[00:14] <zaltekk> also, it's working fine now
[00:14] <zaltekk> glad to see there wasn't a real issue
[00:15] <TJ-> zaltekk: *phew* I hate audio issues, avoid them like the plague - worst things ever to diagnose over IRC!
[00:15] <anonymous__> should we ddos brazzers again?
[00:15] <gunarm> i got a RNX-N600UBE usb wifi adapter and I'm trying to get it working, plugging it in didn't do anything, https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Rosewill_RNX-N600UBE_v1 has a linux driver but says "for kernel 2.6.31 or below"
[00:16] <gunarm> and https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Rosewill_RNX-N600UBE_v1 says "USB ID first seen in kernel v2.6.31"
[00:16] <zaltekk> sadly i overlooked checking the audio group because i knew i was already in it
[00:16] <TJ-> zaltekk: I know the feeling... I remind myself every time I waste an hour only to find a cable is faulty :)
[00:17] <gunarm> which implies to me it should now be supported by the kernel... (but i'm iffy on how that works)  if it should be supported by the kernel already.... what do I do to make it show up in ifconfig?
[00:18] <gunarm> angel_, have you used ubuntu on that laptop before?  I am using aspire s3 as we speak but man it was a struggle to get things working right in ubuntu
[00:18] <TJ-> gunarm: first thing to do is get the exact manufacturer:device ID using "lsusb" (it looks like e.g. A4F2:052C)
[00:21] <TJ-> gunarm: Second thing to do is search which kernel driver is responsible for that device ID, using "grep -i '148f.*3572' /lib/modules/`uname -r`/modules*" (you may need to replace the search term values 148f and 3572)
[00:21] <gunarm> 148f:5572
[00:21] <angel_> gunarm, yes i have been using ubuntu for 7 years.
[00:21] <TJ-> gunarm: third thing is to check that kernel module is loaded using "lsmod | grep rt2800usb" (if "rt2800usb" was the module reported)
[00:21] <angel_> ObrienDave, found a youtube tutorial on how to get bios, thanks
[00:22] <TJ-> gunarm: if "lsmod..." returns no results the kernel module isn't loaded, if it returns results, the kernel module (driver) is loaded and you can move on to looking at the system configuration
[00:23] <ObrienDave> angel_, you need to set 1, CD/DVD 2, external HD 3, internal HD. or something like that
[00:24] <TJ-> gunarm: assuming all that checks out, then you list all the wireless interfaces with "iwconfig" and identify the wireless interface name (probably wlan0)
[00:25] <gunarm> angel_, i meant have you been using it on *that* laptop, since I had problems with aspires
[00:25] <gunarm> TJ-, hrm so if grepping the modules  folder doesn't find anything, it might not be supported?
[00:25] <ObrienDave> angel_, you need to set, #1 CD/DVD, #2 external HD, #3 internal HD. or something like that
[00:26] <ObrienDave> angel_, for clarification :)
[00:26] <TJ-> gunarm: Yes. which Ubuntu release do you have there? "cat /etc/issue && uname -r"
[00:27] <gunarm> TJ-, 12.04.4   3.2.0-67-generic
[00:28] <TJ-> gunarm: That's why, it's too old. The 5572 support was introduced in kernel v3.10, see https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Ralink_RT5572
[00:29] <gunarm> TJ-, does that mean i'll need to leave the 12.04 lts if I want support for it?
[00:29] <gunarm> or rebuild my kernel i guess?
[00:29] <TJ-> gunarm: You could install the Trusty HardWare Enablement pack (HWE), which would support it. See here for details of HWE for 12.04. Take note that all but the Trusty (14.04.1) HWE have not support/runs out next month. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[00:30] <gunarm> great thanks.  better than nothing!
[00:31] <TJ-> gunarm: You'll want "linux-generic-lts-trusty" and "xserver-xorg-lts-trusty" if you go that route
[00:33] <angel_> gunarm, no, never, its new.
[00:33] <angel_> ObrienDave, but now i get an error that my kernel image is corrupted
[00:34] <ObrienDave> angel_, did the USB boot ok?
[00:35] <angel_> ObrienDave, yes i am at unetbootin
[00:36] <angel_> restarted the coputer and i see the unetbootin options
[00:36] <angel_> but it  stays there
[00:36] <gunarm> TJ-, i notice that page says HWE is only compatible with x86 and I have x86_64
[00:36] <ObrienDave> angel_, sounds like a bad transfer to USB, try again or burn ISO to DVD
[00:37] <angel_> ObrienDave, it doesn't have cd dvd drive, just usb
[00:37] <ObrienDave> angel_, then try transfer to USB again or use a different utility
[00:37] <gunarm> angel_, mine was brand new also, it basically worked but a few things like touchpad didn't work, also the internal wifi card lost connection all the time but I finally figured out that's not ubuntus fault just shoddy parts
[00:38] <gunarm> http://www.linlap.com/acer that page helped me but it doesn't have one for p3 so maybe its pretty compatible
[00:38] <angel_> ObrienDave, what do you mean transfer to usb again?
[00:38] <angel_> and acer aspire p3 has one usb port, one hdmi and thats it
[00:38] <ObrienDave> angel_, use unetbootin to remake the USB or a different utility like tuxboot
[00:39] <it_> hello all
[00:39] <ObrienDave> angel_, what OS is on the laptop?
[00:40] <jay_> Anyone who's heard my issues still around?
[00:40] <angel_> ObrienDave, windows 8
[00:40] <jay_> Yo OerHeks: I uninstalled just about all of my ppas
[00:41] <ObrienDave> angel_, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/#USB-Creators
[00:41] <jay_> Can someone help me with some graphics issues?
[00:42] <ObrienDave> !ask | jay_
[00:42] <ObrienDave> !uefi | angel_
[00:43] <TJ-> gunarm: The "x86" means Intel/AMD x86 processor types (32-bit ix86 and 64-bit amd64)
[00:43] <ObrienDave> angel_, do you want to replace Win8 or run alongside?
[00:44] <gunarm> TJ-, thank you
[00:44] <gunarm> TJ-, so like as opposed to ARM or something then
[00:44] <TJ-> gunarm: You took the example right out of my mouth :)
[00:44] <jay_> I've had a huge amount of issues today mainly pertaining to graphics. My X environment got wiped out and I had to reinstall everything pertaining to X (I probably forgot about a lot of stuff). I'm just trying to get my environment back to normal. My first question is about drivers: I have intel integrated 4400 graphics but glxinfo as well as "Details" tells me that my Driver is "Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x300)" is this what it should be or should it be intel d
[00:44] <gunarm> TJ-, ;)
[00:45] <ObrienDave> jay_, that would probably depend on the mobo manufacturer
[00:45] <TJ-> jay_: When packages go missing, you can repair the stack simply with, for example, "sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop" (or "kubuntu-desktop", or "lubtuntu-desktop" depending on which Flavour is required)
[00:46] <okabe> is it possible to add other directories for dash to index?
[00:46] <ObrienDave> or xubuntu-desktop ;P
[00:46] <jay_> TJ-: Will that overwrite anything? Also I was having some issues with PPAs breaking things by installing other packages (I think)
[00:48] <TJ-> jay_: It will reinstall all packages that are part of the "ubuntu-desktop" ... if PPAs have installed newer packages that might throw a spanner into the works.
[00:49] <jay_> TJ-: About the PPAs. I called ppa-purge on almost all of them, but they still show up in Ubuntu Software Center
[00:49] <TJ-> jay_: The package for the intel drivers should be "xserver-xorg-video-intel"
[00:50] <TJ-> jay_: Are they ticked in the software sources list, or unticked. If unticked, that means they are known but not in use
[00:50] <chrstphrchvz> Does the size of /boot/grub vary by installation or over time, making it undesirable for separate partition? see description: http://ur1.ca/htmwi (Unsure if a support or development question, since I am seeking knowledge/opinion.)
[00:50] <superdave321> Anyone able to help with ajenti?
[00:52] <jay_> TJ-: They're not even in the list, though ubuntu-x-swwat ppa is in there and is check, is that an issue? Also I tried to apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel and I got "xserver-xorg-video-intel set to manually installed.
[00:52] <TJ-> chrstphrchvz: Yes, it can vary slightly as newer kernels are installed, if older kernels aren't also removed. I generally use a 512MB /boot/ file-system partition
[00:52] <angel_> ObrienDave, replace w8
[00:53] <TJ-> jay_: My guess would be the x-swat PPA would be providing all the X stack, so if you're using it, keep it... don't try to back out to the main archive unless you want more breakage
[00:53] <Timon_Crazy> All system administrators to congratulate "SysAdmin Day" (the last Friday of July)!
[00:54] <jay_> TJ-: Okay. and about the the intel drivers?
[00:54] <TJ-> jay_: " set to manually installed" simply means the dependency system now thinks it ought not to remove that package, even if you remove all the packages that depend on it - the rest of the X server stack!
[00:54] <ReversePhase> How can I give all users access to /dev/udp ?
[00:55] <jay_> TJ-: So in theory it _should_ be reporting that my drivers are intel?
[00:56] <TJ-> jay_: usually, when you "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" that depends on the xorg-xserver which in turn depends on the various xserver packages, so removing "ubuntu-desktop" would have apt tell you that all the dependent packages can be "autoremove"-d. When one of those packages is "manually installed" "apt-get autoremove" won't remove it
[00:56] <Bashing-om> chrstphrchvz: A separate /boot is something of an anachronism, dating back to limited PC BIOSes that could only handle small disks, so the boot files had to be at the start of the disk. Nowadays, this is no longer applicable .
[00:56] <TJ-> jay_: that may depend on the X server's "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" if there is one. If there isn't and therefore the X server os auto-detecting, then I'd expect it to use the Intel driver
[00:57] <TJ-> jay_: Assuming the intel driver(s) from x-swat do support that chipset, which I'd imagine they ought to
[00:57] <jay_> TJ-: There's no xorg.conf
[00:57] <chrstphrchvz> TJ-, I mean specifically /boot/grub rather than /boot (i.e. as an alternative). E.g. I can keep /boot on my root partition, and use a separate /boot/grub, but is a good idea? (I know it works.)
[00:58] <TJ-> chrstphrchvz: You're asking to confuse GRUB, since it expects /boot/ and /boot/grub/ to be in the same root file-system
[00:59] <TJ-> chrstphrchvz: but specifically, grub/ doesn't vary much in size, it contains the GRUB loadable modules, the saved environment, and grub.cfg
[00:59] <angel_> does someone here owns an acer aspire p3?
[01:03] <jay_> TJ-: On a slightly unrelated note. Workspace switcher use to be really fluid, if I went up I could see the programs in front of my move down, moreso the small boxes on the workspace display in the center of my screen were the actual copies of my desktop. I could see the background, the various windows open, etc. Now when I switch workspaces the result is instantanious and theres no fluidity at all. The small boxes representing the 4 workspaces have also now turned 
[01:03] <jay_> me*
[01:04] <chrstphrchvz> Bashing-om, GRUB is (theoretically) able to boot LVM etc. (what it is typically installed with nowadays) without a /boot partition, but it can result in "core.img unusually large" and failing to install (see description for cases).
[01:04] <TJ-> jay_: That sounds like a result if the slower 2D software graphics driver being used
[01:04] <ice9> bluetooth on/off status is reset when logoff, how to keep it?
[01:04] <angel_> does someone here know how to iinstall ubuntu on a tablet with one usb slot?
[01:05] <MrMadMan> angel_,  depends on the tablet and its hardware
[01:06] <jay_> TJ-: Okay, so how do you propose I switch back to intel drivers?
[01:06] <chrstphrchvz> TJ-, how is it confusing GRUB? grub-install is OK with it once mounted properly (and in fstab), and even manually specifying a /boot/grub partition at install time is OK.
[01:06] <angel_> MrMadMan, acer aspire p3. the problem is that i get to the unetbootin options but once there i can't click any options
[01:06] <ReversePhase> any way to allow the www-data user access to  /dev/udp ?
[01:07] <TJ-> chrstphrchvz: the update-grub scripts might generate incorrect UUIDs in some circumstances
[01:07] <Bashing-om> chrstphrchvz: LVM is out of my sphere of knowledge, No idea how one would boot up a full LVM system .
[01:08] <TJ-> Bashing-om: GRUB has raid and lvm modules, it can initialise a PV->VG->LV to find file-systems
[01:09] <MrMadMan> angel_,  you have just tried to exstract the iso and then sync it to usb ?  I am not that good with that tablet in fact never seen on or tried to install any thing on it
[01:09] <DarkAceXtreme> am I able to transfer/duplicate my current Ubuntu system to another drive?
[01:10] <ObrienDave> DarkAceXtreme, with a cloning utility like clonezilla, yes
[01:10] <MrMadMan> angel_, I also think that you might need a keyboard just to get to the OS or set it up so that it goes to install auto style
[01:10] <DarkAceXtreme> sounds neat
[01:11] <jay_> TJ-: Should I reinstall ubuntu desktop to get the intel drivers or is there something I should setup with xorg.conf?
[01:12] <ObrienDave> DarkAceXtreme, works good, i just used clonezilla to transfer Win7 and Xubuntu to a 1.5TB drive. no problems except for time involved LOL
[01:12] <DarkAceXtreme> heh, sounds like it could take a while
[01:12] <TJ-> jay_: I'm not sure, the drivers should be auto-loaded by the X server. If they aren't, check "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for diagnostic information, warnings, errors, etc.
[01:12] <angel_> MrMadMan, the problem is i have only one usb slot so i can't plug a keyboard
[01:13] <TJ-> angel_: USB hub?
[01:13] <ObrienDave> DarkAceXtreme, hours and hours
[01:13] <angel_> TJ- ??
[01:13] <MrMadMan> angel_, there is no way to use usb hubs ?
[01:13] <TJ-> angel_: tablet <> USB HUB > USB devices
[01:13] <MrMadMan> or make a compiled example via buildroot
[01:14] <jay_> TJ-: My log is filled with a bunch of this error: FBDEV(0): FBIOPUTCMAP: Invalid argument
[01:14] <angel_> MrMadMan, TJ-  didn't knew they were called that
[01:14] <TJ-> jay_: That doesn't look good
[01:14] <MrMadMan> angel_,  that what was called that ?
[01:15] <jay_> TJ-: I agree... Also when I grep for intel I get http://pastebin.com/6j4a7LcT
[01:15] <TJ-> jay_: can you pastebin "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" ?
[01:16] <TJ-> jay_: I think that error is caused by a mismatch between libdrm and the X server drivers
[01:16] <angel_> MrMadMan, TJ- ok i will try to get a usb hub but i don't have one right now. is there a way to get the tablet to boot?
[01:16] <ObrienDave> DarkAceXtreme, http://clonezilla.org/clonezilla-live.php
[01:17] <jay_> TJ-: Here's the entire log http://pastebin.com/pCKxnEev
[01:17] <DarkAceXtreme> ObrienDave, thanks. I'm thinking about buying a new 2TB hard drive, because I want to play some games that are windows-only, and Direct X isn't very stable in virtualbox yet :P
[01:17] <DarkAceXtreme> and I don't know if it's safe to partition my current primary drive
[01:18] <ObrienDave> DarkAceXtreme, never will be stable in a VM ;P
[01:18] <MrMadMan> angel_,  you could make a OS that boots right to you DM or nodm ect.  look at things like buildroot and chroot and UCK and also remastersys
[01:18] <TJ-> angel_: I don't know, never investigated, you'd need to read up what other owners of that device have experienced
[01:18] <DarkAceXtreme> and if it is, it still is probably dangerous to have Windows on the same drive as anything else :P
[01:18] <DarkAceXtreme> because thanks Microsoft
[01:18] <MrMadMan> IE build the iso / img then boot right to it
[01:18] <MrMadMan> then use ubiqity to intall
[01:19] <MrMadMan> or something like that
[01:19] <angel_> MrMadMan, i don't understand you
[01:19] <mahem1_> Hey all, so I am having this wierd issue with kWin key bindings using the  "Global Keyboard Shortcuts" app. Is this the right place to ask?
[01:19] <ObrienDave> remastersys is dead. look into relinux
[01:19] <TJ-> jay_: It seems that the fbdev driver is being loaded in preference to the intel driver
[01:20] <MrMadMan> ObrienDave, just was a example there was better ones lol
[01:20] <angel_> how can i boot a tablet with a live usb?
[01:20] <ObrienDave> MrMadMan, yes, i know :)
[01:20] <MrMadMan> ObrienDave, I am more a fan of buildroot
[01:20] <jay_> TJ-: I see.... can I specify preference somewhere?
[01:21] <ObrienDave> MrMadMan, been looking at that. interesting
[01:21] <MrMadMan> or yocto is also nice ObrienDave
[01:22] <MrMadMan> ObrienDave,  there is also spindle but that is just scripts that are for the pi.  But could alter real easy
[01:23] <MrMadMan> ObrienDave, https://github.com/asb/spindle << spindle
[01:23] <ObrienDave> MrMadMan, thanks
[01:23] <TJ-> jay_: It is auto-determined. The only clue I see is "vesa: Ignoring device with a bound kernel driver" ... can you pastebin "sudo lspci -nnvvvk" ?
[01:24] <angel_> how can i boot a tablet with a live usb?
[01:24] <jay_> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/qRL50CkK
[01:26] <happyfr0gg> Hello! I am using Xchat in Ubuntu Precise. In the channel list area I see the various channels listed in orange, white, and red. What does this mean?
[01:28] <TJ-> jay_: strange, the kernel is using the i915 driver... not sure why the fbdev driver is being used by the X server. it could be the libdrm mismatch I mentioned.
[01:28] <angel_> hi .how can i boot a tablet with a live usb?
[01:28] <MrMadMan> angel_,  I told you you just need to do the research
[01:28] <happyfr0gg> angel
[01:29] <angel_> MrMadMan, can you help me understand what you said?
[01:29] <TJ-> angel_: I think you should give up unless you are a Linux hacker. From what I've just read, it is all but impossible to get an input device to work even if the tablet boots from a Live USB since there is no way to interact with the installer
[01:30] <MrMadMan> angel_, I can not guide you on how to make a OS but other apps can along with youtube and google.  It would just take to long and flood the channel
[01:30] <tdannecy> angel_: You should check out the XDA forums to see if there's an Ubuntu rom that's built for your tablet. Depending on your model, it could be a very difficult process.
[01:30] <MrMadMan> tdannecy,  it is a i5
[01:30] <MrMadMan> not arm
[01:30] <angel_> MrMadMan, i don't think thats what i need.
[01:31] <tdannecy> MrMadMan: I don't understand your message.
[01:31] <angel_> TJ-, thats sounds bad is there no other option?
[01:31] <angel_> tdannecy, let me google xda
[01:31] <MrMadMan> angel_,  well then wait and get a usbhub.  as that would help or spin up a distro with a user and DM that you can loginto with out a keyboard
[01:32] <jay_> TJ-: So what should I do? libgl1-mesa-dri, libgl1-mesa-glx, and libglapi-mesa all have available updates
[01:32] <MrMadMan> angel_,  I suggest maiilit or onboard so that you can use with no keyboard to install
[01:33] <jay_> TJ-: Though I think that caused issues last time because it broke compatability with other stuff cause the updates come from the x-updates PPA
[01:33] <angel_> MrMadMan, are those live usb creators?
[01:33] <MrMadMan> if you spin up your own distro so that there is a user and what not that you can sign in and install via ubiqity << spelling is wrong
[01:33] <ObrienDave> angel_, http://forum.xda-developers.com/ find your tablet model and carrier in the forums
[01:34] <TJ-> jay_: I'm not sure, I tend to keep the X server packages in sync so don't hit those kinds of issues.
[01:34] <jay_> TJ-: How do I do that lol
[01:35] <MrMadMan> angel_,  no I am saying that you make a OS of Ubuntu via virtual box clone it / make a loader and that has a user and also has some tools installed then... use DD and also sync to a usb and boot it stright to the OS. IE no installer.  Something that is set up already .
[01:35] <jay_> TJ-: I suppose I should also mention on on 12.04
[01:35] <TJ-> jay_: Don't use bleeding-edge PPAs , just use the main archives or the HardWare Enablement stacks
[01:35] <jay_> TJ-: So should I purge the xorg ppa and just reinstall desktop or something?
[01:36] <TJ-> angel_: to create the bootable installer USB image, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[01:36] <angel_> TJ-, i already have that
[01:36] <angel_> i used unetbootin
[01:37] <angel_> but when i boot it stays on the unetbootin options
[01:37] <MrMadMan> angel_,  or you can use many different tools that are out there to clone the OS (the one that is in the VM ) then use all that to make a img or so or whatever and just load stright to the OS.  BUT and this is a big but.  you have to make sure that there is no hard core dependences  on the bootloader
[01:37] <TJ-> jay_: That would be my preference, but you might shed more tears getting back to a sane dependency state... and in the interim learn how to use the console :)
[01:37] <TJ-> angel_: OK, so what happens when you configure the P3 to boot from USB, with the USB device plugged in?
[01:37] <superdave321> Would anyone help me decode this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7851138/
[01:37] <MrMadMan> TJ-,  her ( angel_  ) only has one usb port so no keyboard
[01:38] <MrMadMan> or his *
[01:38] <angel_> TJ-, it boots to unetbootin options then stays there
[01:38] <rocko2_> is it true you can't use skype on 64 bit ubuntu?
[01:38] <TJ-> angel_: Have you tried booting another PC from that USB device? Does it do the same thing? Of so, sounds like the creation process went wrong, so redo it and test it again
[01:38] <jay_> TJ-: Alright....well what's the easiest solution here? Not counting reinstalling Ubuntu
[01:39] <arul> totally untrue
[01:39] <MrMadMan> angel_,  tried to cp iso to usb then exstract it then run sync so it boots with out unetbootin ?
[01:39] <arul> just skyping on 64bit ubuntu :)
[01:39] <TJ-> jay_: I'd purge the PPAs and their packages and try to get a sane 12.04 configuration first
[01:39] <jay_> TJ-: Also why would there be dependency issues? After sudo apt-get reeinstall ubuntu-desktop and then just update stuff?
[01:40] <MrMadMan> angel_,  but no to less you are going to need a virtual keyboard to install (users enter keys ect )
[01:40] <tdannecy> superdave321: I can take a crack at it. Can I PM you?
[01:40] <MrMadMan> none to less *
[01:40] <TJ-> jay_: If any PPA package get left behind after the purge, downgrade of packages to satisfy dependencies of the 'stock' package version might break
[01:40] <superdave321> tdannecy sure! thanks
[01:42] <TJ-> angel_: This thread seems to indicate that some P3 users have had success. Have you tried posting a question there asking how they did it? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2195828
[01:43] <jay_> TJ-: So when trying to purge x-updates I get E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:43] <TJ-> jay_: another package manager is running
[01:43] <MrMadMan> TJ-,  again his/her/whatever doen not have a KEYBOARD to hook into if the USB is taken with install media
[01:44] <MrMadMan> TJ-,  "angel" is whom i and talking about
[01:44] <TJ-> MrMadMan: I *am* aware of that... however, at least one user reports booting 14.04 live on that device and the only thing not working was sound, but that then worked subsequently.
[01:45] <n1ck0> good evening, anyone awake?
[01:45] <n1ck0> need a bit of help with a network applet
[01:45] <jay_> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/EnpDji8B
[01:45] <jay_> seemed to change a lot
[01:45] <jay_> I'll reboot and report back
[01:45] <TJ-> angel_: MrMadMan: My expectation would be that as the keyboards are Bluetooth, as long as the installer auto-starts from the boot-manager, it'll auto-connect to a/the BT keyboard
[01:46] <MrMadMan> TJ-,  good point about the BT I did not know that there was one in the playing field
[01:47] <TJ-> angel_: The key thing would be to choose the "Try Ubuntu" option to load the live environment, then install using the "Install Ubuntu" icon on the desktop
[01:47] <meganerd> TJ-: it depends on the BTB keyboards and the implementation.  On my system the bluetooth keyboard is not available until the login screen
[01:47] <TJ-> MrMadMan: From what I read, that device has 2 BT keyboards. One is some kind of slip-on cover which doesn't initially pair since the default pass-code is wrong - the thread I gave details how to fix that though
[01:47] <MrMadMan> meganerd, upstart/systemd
[01:48] <MrMadMan> TJ-,  I see says the blind man
[01:48] <meganerd> MrMadMan: there is no systemd yet
[01:48] <TJ-> meganerd: That would be fine, the "Try Ubuntu" option does auto-login to the 'ubuntu' user
[01:49] <snowrichard> flashplugin installer is hanging at the download
[01:49] <meganerd> TJ-: I have a logitech k810 that periodically needs repairing.  I am not a fan of BT only keyboards.
[01:49] <meganerd> TJ-: it *should* work, I just have extensive experiences of it not working :)
[01:49] <Brad___> hi all, so my goal is to get a job relating to network administration what degrees should i try to get for this field?
[01:50] <somsip> Brad___: finding the correct IRC channel to ask this question is your first task
[01:50] <TJ-> meganerd: The user(s) with the same Aspire P3 as angel_ report it does, so there is hope :)
[01:50] <meganerd> Brad___: wrong channel.  At a start the Cisco courses are where I would look.  If you want to play around first, have a look at lartc.org
[01:50] <jay_> TJ-: No luck :(
[01:51] <TJ-> Brad___: try ##networking
[01:51] <TJ-> jay_: :(
[01:51] <TJ-> jay_: Are all the packages plain ole 12.04 now? What is the X org log showing, the same error?
[01:51] <meganerd> Brad___: wrong channel.  At a start the Cisco courses are where I would look.  If you want to play around first, have a look at lartc.org
[01:51] <Brad___> i had no idea these channels existed, this was the only channel i knew of when i need help with my server, thanks guys!
[01:51] <jay_> TJ-: Yeah same error it looks like
[01:53] <jay_> TJ-: How do I check if they're all standard 12.04 packages?
[01:53] <TJ-> jay_: You don't have "nomodeset" on the kernel command-line, do you ("cat /proc/cmdline") ?
[01:53] <TJ-> jay_: if you've removed all the PPAs and those packages downgraded I'd think they should be the 12.04 archive packages
[01:53] <jay_> TJ-: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-32-generic root=UUID=af30df8b-eabe-4a2b-99f6-32bc2e4aa914 ro acpi_backlight=vendor
[01:56] <TJ-> jay_: So, do you have the Xserver HWE packages installed, it looks as if you have the HWE linux kernel packages from Trusty
[01:56] <jay_> TJ-: What packages are those?
[01:58] <TJ-> jay_: I *think* they are  "linux-generic-lts-trusty" and "xserver-xorg-lts-trusty" and  "libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-trusty" plus their 'recommends'
[01:58] <jay_> TJ-: Don't I want precise if I'm on 12.04?
[01:58] <TJ-> jay_: as in "sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-trusty xserver-xorg-lts-trusty libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-trusty"
[01:59] <TJ-> jay_: Your Xorg log shows the system is on kernel 3.13, which is from Trusty, which suggests you have installed either a custom kernel or the Trusty HWE
[01:59] <TJ-> jay_: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[02:00] <agliodbs> hey, I just launched a precise64 Vagrant VM, and got a warning about the HWE going EOL.  I'm concerned about this because I'm preparing the VM for a class, and I don't want all of the students to see a critical warning when they log in.  Is this some kind of side effect of having a host machine on a later version of Ubunut?
[02:00] <agliodbs> Ubuntu that is
[02:00] <jay_> TJ-: So that sounds like I screwed up then? This all started when I updated my hardware stack this morning
[02:01] <freshair> hey all, how are we?
[02:03] <TJ-> jay_: did you use the command I just showed to update the hardware stack?
[02:03] <jay_> TJ-: No, should I do that even though I'm running 12.04?
[02:04] <TJ-> The HWE *is* for 12.04, that's the point of it
[02:05] <usuario> :)
[02:05] <TJ-> jay_: The HWE brings more modern hardware support to an older LTS release (12.04) by packaging the latest release's kernel and X server packages specifically for 12.04, and continuing to provide support for that 12.04.5 stack until the end of the 12.04 LTS support period
[02:06] <meganerd> agliodbs: you should not need the HWE stack in a VM
[02:06] <jay_> TJ-: Ah I see, just ran that. Rebooting now
[02:06] <coventry> Is there any way to play quicktime movies on ubuntu?  I'm getting "VLC does not support the audio or video format "twos".  Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this.
[02:06] <freshair> Does anyone know if there is a up to date repo of the linux-ck kernel patch for Ubuntu?
[02:06] <meganerd> freshair: what is it that you want to do?
[02:06] <meganerd> freshair: I thought that Con's work is all upstream now?
[02:07] <agliodbs> meganerd: yeah, I'm more concerned about disabling the warning.  It will confuse my students.
[02:07] <freshair> meganerd: Does that mean it is not being updated?
[02:07] <meganerd> freshair: that means that it is no longer a separate thing.
[02:07] <jay_> TJ-: You. Are. Awesome.
[02:08] <freshair> meganerd: so, I just need to apply the latest 3.15/6 linux kernel>
[02:08] <meganerd> freshair: it would help to know what you want those patches to do?
[02:08] <TJ-> jay_: It worked?
[02:08] <jay_> TJ-: Yeah it appears so!
[02:08] <jay_> TJ-: One quick thing though
[02:08] <freshair> meganerd: I have an old system and am looking to try and squeeze out a bit more from the scheduler etc since I've heard it can help
[02:09] <TJ-> jay_: ... and 8 hours later... :p
[02:09] <meganerd> agliodbs: I don't have any 12.04 VMs anymore, so I am not sure why you are getting that error.   Is your base VM using the 12.10 HWE?
[02:09] <freshair> Currently on the -pk 3.15 kernel but it fails to shutdown properly at times
[02:09] <jay_> TJ-: Earlier I tried to backup my compiz settings, and when I reapplied them shit got screwed up. My old background is still there on my lockscreen but not when I log in. Does that mean my old settings are still there somewhere or are the lockscreen and desktop controlled differently?
[02:09] <jay_> TJ-: :D
[02:09] <meganerd> freshair: just use the regular kernel, you are not going to see any perceptible difference
[02:09] <agliodbs> meganerd: no, it's the ubuntu/precise64 box from virtualbox.  Supposedly created by Canonical.  I suspect it's running the 12.04.2 HWE
[02:09] <TJ-> agliodbs: I'd think the warning is coming from the motd scripts. Check in "/etc/update-motd.d/" and disable it if you really need to
[02:10] <agliodbs> TJ-: thanks.
[02:10] <meganerd> agliodbs: HWEs are *for* 12.04, they bring newer kernels and X drivers to the older LTS release
[02:10] <freshair> meganerd: what version of the kernel is on the stock Ubuntu 14.04?
[02:10] <TJ-> jay_: As I recall the greeter background setting is kept separately, but although I once knew where to find it for lightdm, I have forgotten now :)
[02:10] <meganerd> freshair: 3.13
[02:10] <freshair> Cheerio, I shall try installing 3.15 official kernel maybe?
[02:11] <TJ-> agliodbs: The HWEs aren't recommended for VM guests though so you should'nt really need/have them at all
[02:11] <jay_> TJ-: Not a problem. I'm just happy to have things behaving normally again :)
[02:11] <meganerd> freshair: you might want to change out your DE for something simplier if performance is a problem.  How old of a system are we talking about?
[02:11] <jay_> TJ-: Thanks so much for all the help man. Seriously I've been at this ALL day
[02:11] <freshair> 2008 C2D laptop
[02:11] <TJ-> jay_: I know what it is like, glad you're sorted :)
[02:11] <meganerd> freshair: so like a core2duo?
[02:11] <agliodbs> TJ-: OK, I'll see if I can disable it in motd
[02:11] <freshair> meganerd: honestly, it's just an excercise to try and tinker around
[02:11] <agliodbs> otherwise I'll be back here tommorrow ...
[02:11] <freshair> meganerd: yep
[02:12] <meganerd> agliodbs: just remove the HWE packages
[02:12] <newbie18> I am new to the pxe with preseed, which option will automatically set hostname as the one queried from dns/dhcp? right now it stops waiting a press "enter " to go ahead
[02:12] <agliodbs> meganerd: oh, that's an even better idea.  I'll also confirm the box owner and try to get them to fix the box.
[02:12] <agliodbs> later
[02:13] <meganerd> freshair: I have a core2duo kicking around that works great, though I have 8 GB of RAM in it.  RAM and an SSD are going to breath new life into that system, regardless of the OS
[02:13] <TJ-> freshair: I second what meganerd recommends :)
[02:13] <freshair> Indeed. Thanks mate. Back to normal kernel - saves me time I guess :-)
[02:14] <freshair> I am just so used to trying out kernels for the android phone you know?
[02:14] <freshair> It
[02:15] <freshair> *It's a bad habit carried over I guess
[02:15]  * TJ- hides the v3.16-rc6-utopic mainline kernel he's just installed :p
[02:16] <meganerd> freshair: if you really want to mess around with a low latency kernel (mostly used by us "pro" audio guys, there are packages that you can get from here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[02:16] <newbie18> hey guys, help me please ^^^
[02:16] <meganerd> TJ-: right with ya TJ
[02:16] <freshair> meganerd: Thanks matey. I might try 2.6.15 first ;-)    [just joking]
[02:16] <Matriks404> try 0.01
[02:17] <meganerd> Matriks404: it probably won't boot
[02:17] <Matriks404> meganerd: yeah, I know :D
[02:18] <meganerd> freshair: you can try it, just don't expect a lot of support :)  You should be able to choose an older kernel from the grub boot menu if things mess uop
[02:18] <meganerd> freshair: I used to be a kernel junkie (especially the low latency patches for low latency audio mixing), at least until the kids showed up
[02:19] <freshair> meganerd: I can understand. Now you get to tinker with their behaviour so to speak
[02:22] <freshair> silly questions, what is the theoretical difference between mainline vs stable?
[02:23] <TJ-> freshair: mainline is the active master HEAD development branch, stable is a full release possibly with backported bug fixes
[02:24] <freshair> Lovely! Perhaps that's why android OS is behind in their kernel versions
[02:24] <meganerd> freshair: android is behind due to their development cycle and project management
[02:25] <meganerd> freshair: just look at cyanogen's stuff
[02:25] <freshair> But I imagine the devices wouldn;t benefit much from the newer versions would they?
[02:25] <meganerd> freshair: probably not noticeably
[02:25] <TJ-> freshair: Mostly it's because Android kernel is still a fork of mainline, and also so many drivers are out-of-tree or rely on userspace binary blobs so they fix on one version and then have to stick with it
[02:25] <freshair> ah but security might be an issue right?
[02:26] <meganerd> freshair: security is often backported, even to old 2.4 kernels IIRC.
[02:26] <freshair> that's good to know
[02:26] <TJ-> freshair: the delta is getting much smaller now as mainline incorporates Android concepts, if not their original implementations
[02:26] <meganerd> freshair: of course there is no guarantee that Android does that.  I both love and hate Google
[02:27] <freshair> well, it could be worse right?
[02:27] <meganerd> freshair: it could always be worse.
[02:27] <meganerd> anyway, gotta run.  Best of luck with your kernel adventures.
[02:28] <freshair> thanks, have a good one
[02:28] <lnx_usr> Hi! When 12.04 to 14.4 release will be available?
[02:30] <gunarm> tj
[02:30] <TJ-> lnx_usr: it should be available now, release date for 14.04.1 was 24th
[02:30] <gunarm> oops sorry still had that on my buffer;p
[02:32] <lnx_usr> TJ-: No new release found
[02:33] <TJ-> lnx_usr: was that "do-releae-upgrade" ?
[02:33] <lnx_usr> yes
[02:33] <TJ-> lnx_usr: Have you upgraded all packages recently to ensure d-r-u is the latest?
[02:35] <lnx_usr> All softaware up to date
[02:35] <gunarm> TJ-, after installing the HWE and rebooting, the network card works, but everything is in low resolution, I did "sudo apt-get install" and it says nvidia-settings and screen-resolution-extra are no longer required.  Any thoughts on that one?
[02:37] <TJ-> gunarm: Hmmm, I wonder if you need a newer nvidia binary driver package?
[02:42] <wheatthin> I'm not sure about that. No longer required..  are you using nvidia-updates ?
[02:50] <ramza099> hello i need help
[02:51] <ramza099> i try boot from live cd and i get flickering screen when i try install
[02:52] <linux__> server irc.oltreirc.net
[02:54] <Bashing-om> ALL: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.announce/186 <- 14.04.1 released; should be hitting the mirrors right soon now !
[02:56] <t2mkn> echo "1782 0003" > /sys/bus/usb-serial/drivers/option1/new_id it creates ttyUSB0 how can I change it to ttyUSB_lct_modem ?
[02:58] <gunarm> TJ-, just fyi, installing the binary drivers fixed it and everything works great now.  thanks for the help
[02:58] <TJ-> Bashing-om: what is weird is packages.ubuntu.com shows the latest version in precise-updates of "update-manager-core" is 1:0.156.14.15, yet my 12.04 servers have  1:0.156.14.16 from precise-proposed, and that "/var/lib/update-manager/meta-release-lts" doesn't list trusty
[02:59] <TJ-> gunarm: glad to hear it :)
[03:00] <Nimble> t2mkn, https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/66901/how-to-bind-usb-device-under-a-static-name
[03:01] <zykotick9> gunarm: (my opinion only) but, to bad you had to "break" your entire install, just to get graphics working... best of luck with the next kernel update (you might need it)
[03:03] <t2mkn> Nimble: just what i was looking for :) thanks.
[03:04] <Nimble> np, I work a lot with serial devices and I know they can be a pain :)
[03:19] <rocko2_> is it true that skype doesn't work on ubuntu 64?
[03:23] <Nimble> rocko2_, if skype is only compiled for 32 bit then you can install the appropriate 32 bit libraries and it should run
[03:23] <Nimble> so theoretically it should
[03:23] <somsip> rocko2_: works fine here
[03:24] <rocko2_> your using ubuntu 64bit?
[03:25] <IvanPaes> rocko2_,  I am using skype on ubuntu 14.04 64-bit version.
[03:26] <makudesu> hello
[03:26] <IvanPaes> Installed by the control programs. :)
[03:26] <somsip> rocko2_: yep
[03:27] <makudesu> can i ask a quextion
[03:27] <somsip> makudesu: go ahead
[03:27] <makudesu> ping ghartz
[03:27] <makudesu> dfa
[03:27] <makudesu> anyone
[03:28] <somsip> makudesu: so - your question is?
[03:28] <makudesu> what is the difference between using /etc/network/interfacve and wpa)supplicasnt
[03:30] <GZA-Genius> forgive me I am still learning and HP does not have much documentation for SW and tools unless your running RH or SUSE, I am getting a error on line 38 when starting this init.d script can someone help me out... http://paste.debian.net/111557/
[03:37] <happyfr0gg> I need help in resolving unmet dependencies. I am trying to install the latest HWE.
[03:40] <marcuspbaird> hi all
[03:40] <marcuspbaird> on ubuntu 14.04 how do I upgrade to 14.04.1
[03:40] <marcuspbaird> or is it done already
[03:41] <happyfr0gg> I was trying to install 12.04.5 HWE (Trusty kernel/graphics) but ran into unmet dependencies.  How do I resolve these unmet dependencies??
[03:41] <Bashing-om> marcuspbaird: if you are fully updated, what returns from terminal command -> lsb_release -a <- ?
[03:42] <marcuspbaird> I installed it yesterday
[03:42] <marcuspbaird> so should it already be at the latest version
[03:43] <Bashing-om> marcuspbaird: Fresh install, run -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade , sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ... should then have 14.01.1.
[03:44] <marcuspbaird> ok thanks
[03:44] <marcuspbaird> so sudo apt dist upgrade
[03:44] <rww> no.
[03:46] <marcuspbaird> I haven't used unity for a bit so just need to figure it out again
[03:46] <Bashing-om> marcuspbaird: Yeah but that command has nothing to do with a release upgrade .. just is apt-get's smart mode in package management. (will install the latest kernel)
[03:46] <marcuspbaird> ok nods
[03:46] <happyfr0gg> marcuspbaird - run those commands in the order that Bashing-om described.
[03:46] <marcuspbaird> am now
[03:46] <rocko2_> how do I use virtual machines on ubuntu?
[03:47] <marcuspbaird> thanks
[03:47] <marcuspbaird> virtual box rocko
[03:47] <happyfr0gg> marcuspbaird - you're welcome.
[03:47] <marcuspbaird> should be in the software centure
[03:47] <marcuspbaird> center
[03:48] <rocko2_> virtualbox doesn't work
[03:48] <marcuspbaird> it should work
[03:48] <marcuspbaird> what are u trying to install in it
[03:48] <rocko2_> I will pastebin the error marcuspbaird
[03:49] <marcuspbaird> thats prob over my head
[03:49] <marcuspbaird> I norm find its just setting the distro to the wrong one
[03:49] <marcuspbaird> or trying to get a 64 bit on a 32 bit machine
[03:49] <happyfr0gg> rocko2 - try this link --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualMachines
[03:50] <Bashing-om> marcuspbaird: Not necessasarily be available in USC ,, see : http://lwn.net/Articles/563966/ .
[03:50] <marcuspbaird> ok thanks
[03:50] <marcuspbaird> I be off all the trolls see me
[03:50] <marcuspbaird> or
[03:50] <marcuspbaird> lol
[03:51] <happyfr0gg>  I was trying to install 12.04.5 HWE (Trusty kernel/graphics) but ran into unmet dependencies.  How do I resolve these unmet dependencies??
[03:51] <marcuspbaird> not related but I bought Sid Meier’s Colonization.
[03:52] <marcuspbaird> a while back and noticed linux has it now will steam just port it over
[03:57] <teaearlgraycold> Is it a bad idea to upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04.1? Should I wipe the machine and do it fresh?
[03:59] <Bashing-om> happyfr0gg: Have you run update/upgrade, got the errors as the package manager sees them, maybe try and install the dependency(s).
[04:00] <happyfr0gg> teaearlgraycold - to answer both of your questions, no.
[04:01] <teaearlgraycold> happyfr0gg, I don't really have anywhere to upgrade the machine to - as it is my upgrade box atm
[04:01] <teaearlgraycold> sorry
[04:01] <Bashing-om> teaearlgraycold: If you revert the current install to as close to default as possible- disable any svreen saver - , update the system; should be no problem updating from 12.04 .
[04:01] <teaearlgraycold> I mean backup as it's my backup box
[04:02] <teaearlgraycold> Bashing-om, it's ubuntu server
[04:03] <teaearlgraycold> Could dependencies break for services?
[04:03] <happyfr0gg> Bashing-om - will upgrading my system via the terminal only upgrade the HWE or the entire system to 14.04+?
[04:04] <Ben64> happyfr0gg: depends what you type
[04:04] <teaearlgraycold> Well I guess I'll just go yolo
[04:04] <rocko2_> I think I am infected
[04:04] <rocko2_> is there viruses for ubuntu?
[04:04] <teaearlgraycold> rocko2_, it's possible...
[04:05] <rww> ubottu: virus
[04:05] <Ben64> rocko2_: extremely unlikely. what makes you think you're infected?
[04:05] <Bashing-om> happyfr0gg: You can do either HWE update, or release upgrade to 14.04.1 .
[04:05] <Ozera||> Does anyone know how to fix the Google Talk plugin crash for Chrome users on Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[04:07] <Bashing-om> happyfr0gg: BUT, as you know, before doing anything, those faults in the package management system need to be addressed .
[04:08] <gypsy> hey guys
[04:11] <iampoz> hi guys, I am having a problem finding where I installed an application
[04:11] <iampoz> its call minitube, I installed it from source
[04:12] <Beldar> iampoz, It's in the ubuntu repos, why from source?
[04:13] <iampoz> repos is not latest version
[04:13] <iampoz> to many bugs in the repos versions
[04:13] <Beldar> iampoz, Technically that would be 3rd party and not supported here.
[04:13] <jellow> iampoz, can you run from terminal;  whereis minitube
[04:14] <iampoz> thanks Jellow!
[04:14] <Ozera||> Does anyone have a fix for google-tal plugin crash for ubuntu 12.04 ?
[04:15] <tonyt> Ozera|| not that my question has anything to do with your question but im cusios, why are you still running 12.04?
[04:16] <Ozera||> tonyt, I haven't upgraded. I really want to get Windows on this machine, but I ran into a problem with the windows installer. I am missing some media drivers, but it won't tell me which ones
[04:17] <Ozera||> It's like i'm stuck with this fucking machine
[04:17] <tonyt> oh ok. i would assume the windows install image your using would contain the drivers you need
[04:18] <tonyt> hear ya . sucks
[04:18] <Ozera||> Maybe its a bad windows iso? I'm not sure
[04:19] <Ozera||> I tried updating my machine to see if it download said media drivers...but it only created more problems like this google-talk plugin crash
[04:20] <Ben64> Ozera||: ##windows if you need help installing windows
[04:23] <_gypsy_> can i play wow on ubuntu?
[04:23] <Ben64> _gypsy_: probably with wine
[04:24] <_gypsy_> legit
[04:25] <aural_> I need help to recover xorg-x11 desktop without killing/restarting X. I pushed ctrl+alt+f1 and then returned to X with ctrl+alt+f8. I've done this before, but now it is showing black/blank screen. I think the reason may be because this computer is configured to display the desktop on four monitors (2x2) but at this time I only have one monitor connected. I have a known working/functional desktop with the one monitor right now (prior to l
[04:26] <aural_> I am using XFCE.
[04:26] <Ben64> aural_: usually x would be on f7, not f8
[04:27] <aural_> Ben64: I know, however, my computer it displays with F8.
[04:28] <Ozera||> Does anyone know where I can find older google-talk plugin versions?
[04:29] <aural_> Maybe I can try adjusting the resolution? What is a command line tool that can be used to set the resolution?
[04:30] <rww> xrandr, I believe
[04:30] <anuvrat> hi I just installed ubuntu 14. Nexus 5 is not getting detected. please help
[04:34] <Beldar> anuvrat, What android release is it running?
[04:34] <rocko2_> how do I add myself to a group?
[04:34] <anuvrat> 4.4.4
[04:35] <ldrancer> hey
[04:35] <ldrancer> why do you morons think you can do anything on a computer?
[04:36] <rocko2_> ldlework troll alert!
[04:36] <Beldar> anuvrat, Should work, do have the usb debug on?
[04:36] <rocko2_> !ops
[04:36] <rww> howdy
[04:36] <ldlework> hahaha why would you highlight me?
[04:37] <ldlework> I'd like an answer to his question, in fact.
[04:37] <ldlework> ;)
[04:37] <ldrancer> im going to make girls, food.
[04:37] <ldrancer> there rights and totally doable am i rights or whats?
[04:37] <ldrancer> i heard this on the internets
[04:37] <rww> ldrancer: Do you have an Ubuntu support question? If not, please take the chatter elsewhere.
[04:37] <ldrancer> rights be beezings right?  and do thigns on comptuer is what i heard you can do with bitcoin
[04:37] <ldrancer> STFU FAGGOT IM ON A CPU
[04:41] <Beldar> anuvrat, http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/11/10/enable-developer-options-nexus-5-kitkat/  for the usb debug option
[04:41] <Beldar> rocko2_ Helps if you state why and what group.
[04:44] <rocko2_> I get this error when I try and run virt-manager http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=kwmRh7L8 Beldar
[04:45] <kanhiay> hi, all, I have windows xp 32 bit on virtual guest, and  i want to send print command to linux printer which is working flawlessly
[04:45] <Beldar> rocko2_, Not sure myself, others might know, try to give related details is all.
[04:45] <whoever> kanhiay: are you using cups
[04:46] <kanhiay> i don;t know, whoever
[04:46] <rocko2_> it works when I use sudo virt-manager Beldar
[04:46] <whoever> kanhiay: is it a network or loacal printer
[04:46] <rocko2_> but then it uses / paritition instead of home parition which I don't want it to do Beldar
[04:46] <kanhiay> whoever: it is local printer but likely to be shared on network in future, i am new to linux and i am learning
[04:46] <Ben64> rocko2_: sounds like you need to add yourself to the 'libvirtd' group
[04:47] <Beldar> rocko2_, As I said not sure myself, note getting an answer to give more info does not mean help other that to give more info for help.
[04:47] <whoever> kanhiay: so you want to print to th printer from your xp guest ?
[04:47] <kanhiay> whoever: i installed hp-lip gui and installed printer using hp-lip
[04:47] <kanhiay> whoever: yes,
[04:47] <rocko2_> I checked the groups I belong to and it says I am already a member Ben64
[04:47] <kanhiay> exactly, because i have a software which is not working in Linux, i also tried wine, but it is not working
[04:48] <whoever> kanhiay:  in the settings , you need to share it  under devices, if not  you need to configure it in cups
[04:48] <kanhiay> whoever: on wine, it installs without any problem, but doesn't start at all
[04:48] <whoever> kanhiay: you don't need wine
[04:49] <kanhiay> whoever: is it possible to share same printer in linux and virtual xp, without much hurdle
[04:49] <whoever>  in xp   go to add printer and browse , do you see it there
[04:49] <whoever> kanhiay: yes
[04:50] <whoever> kanhiay: i have done simler before but it was between two native boxes linux with the local printer, and windows printed to it
[04:51] <kanhiay> whoever: then it will not be available in linux at the same time, am i right ?
[04:51] <_gypsy_> what flashplayer works for chrome
[04:51] <_gypsy_> adobe*
[04:51] <kanhiay> whoever: what to do, when i want to share the same printer on network
[04:51] <whoever> kanhiay: wrong cups has a print que
[04:52] <kanhiay> _gypsy_: chrome need not a flashplayer, it has a built in player to play flash
[04:52] <kanhiay> whoever: thanks, how to know cups has been installed or not
[04:52] <whoever> kanhiay: you will just navigate to the printer  in network
[04:52] <_gypsy_> whenever i try to play a video on facebook it says i need adobe flashplayer
[04:52] <_gypsy_> kanhiay,
[04:52] <kanhiay> whoever: and how to make it active
[04:53] <kanhiay> whoever: thanks a lot
[04:53] <kostkon> !info pepperflashplugin-nonfree | _gypsy_, chrome or chromium? if you mean chromium, then this package
[04:53] <whoever> you may also need samba for this to work I haven't done it without samba because i was always running a file share
[04:53] <_gypsy_> yes chromium
[04:53] <whoever> kanhiay: so whan your browse your network, from the guest do you see th printer
[04:54] <kostkon> _gypsy_, then install the above package and restart chromium
[04:54] <whoever> hint it will probably be inside your ubuntu hose node
[04:54] <_gypsy_> i will try thanks
[04:55] <whoever> kanhiay: if you setup samba , you don't realy need to wory about the file share part
[04:55] <whoever> kanhiay: do you have samba set up
[04:55] <whoever> or installed
[04:55] <kanhiay> whoever: i am going to install samba, from ubuntu
[04:55] <kanhiay> software centre
[04:55] <whoever> ok
[04:56] <whoever> it should make it so you can at least find the printer from network
[04:56] <whoever> also make sure your guest and host are on the same sub net or you will create more  problms for yourself
[04:57] <whoever> kanhiay: are you in the US
[04:57] <kanhiay> whoever: no i am from INdia
[04:58] <whoever> kanhiay: ok, fyi  its almost midnight here , and i'm gonna head to bed soon, so if i disappear just pm me and ill get back to you
[04:58] <anuvrat> Upon plugging my nexus 5 to a freshly installed ubuntu 14 I am getting Unable to open MTP device '[usb:001,035]' error
[04:59] <whoever> so setup samba, which in your case to get it working all you will need to do in install and start the deamond
[05:00] <kanhiay> whoever: no thanks dear, i am not going to be a nightmare for you, have sweet dreams
[05:00] <whoever> and you should beable to find the printer for xp browse network to add it
[05:01] <whoever> kanhiay: I'm sure you won't but just letting you know some of the things I ran into when setting it up
[05:01] <whoever> Kanttori: it can be a real pain going the other way(print to windows printer from linux )
[05:02] <_gypsy_> kanhiay thanks man it worked perf
[05:02] <sec_> how downgrade gdb?
[05:06] <Lost_x_out> !seen ObrienDave
[05:08] <anuvrat> hi, I am unable to see my nexus 5 in the output of lsusb when I plug it in. Nor is it getting mounted.
[05:09] <Beldar> anuvrat, Did you see my responses?
[05:09] <Lost_x> hi beldar
[05:10] <anuvrat> Beldar, Hi
[05:10] <anuvrat> I did.
[05:10] <ryankrizan> Does anyone know how to get workspaces to work with Gnome-shell on Ubuntu 14.04? Gnome does not create new workspaces in the dock like it should. Only shows the 1 main workspace.
[05:10] <Beldar> anuvrat, And, might it help to answer? This should plug and play is all.
[05:11] <anuvrat> Beldar, I don't think I need to have the developer options on in order to have it get mounted as a media device ... do I?
[05:11] <Lost_x> Beldar: sir, we have this problem yesterday installing ubuntu14.04lts 64bit. the machine have a previous os windows7 32bit. the machine is uefi enabled 64bit. we can not see the alongside isntallation option of the installer.
[05:11] <anuvrat> Beldar, It works perfectly on another machine running ubuntu 13.10
[05:12] <Beldar> anuvrat, Does not hurt to check, with oem installs one never knows.
[05:12] <Nimble> it should just work without developer options
[05:12] <Nimble> is your USB cable good?
[05:12] <Nimble> does your phone charge when it gets plugged in?
[05:12] <anuvrat> Nimble, yes and yes
[05:13] <Lost_x> Beldar: now that i use the disk management of windows to delete the volumes that we created yesterday and just make it into volume in ntfs format
[05:13] <Nimble> ah, mtp errors
[05:13] <Nimble> wonderful
[05:13] <anuvrat> Nimble, same cable same phone works on ubuntu 13.10 but does not on 14
[05:13] <Lost_x> Beldar: now, the "install alongside windows" option of the installer appears
[05:13] <Nimble> I had a similar problem with my phone on 12.04 that got fixed in a later update
[05:13] <meganerd> anuvrat: do you have mtp-tools installed?
[05:14] <anuvrat> meganerd, yes found it in one of the search results ... installed it ...
[05:15] <RockyEx> Hi there all, I'm running Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS 8 core 14GB ram virtual server. It is running some heavy processes like schedule jobs
[05:15] <RockyEx> I'm getting: kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt
[05:15] <anuvrat> meganerd, Nimble, Beldar  dmesg goes into an infinite loop printing https://dpaste.de/JUCu
[05:15] <RockyEx> time to time
[05:16] <RockyEx> What is the issue
[05:16] <anuvrat> meganerd, Nimble, Beldar it says unable to open mtp device ...
[05:17] <Nimble> how bizarre
[05:17] <anuvrat> and nexus 5 is also not visible in lsusb
[05:17] <Nimble> it does that after plugging it in?
[05:17] <meganerd> anuvrat: can you run mtp-detect from the command line?
[05:18] <anuvrat> meganerd, https://dpaste.de/Xqyy
[05:19] <meganerd> anuvrat: that is all I have.  Gotta get to bed.  FWIW I got tired of the MTP dance when USB mass storage went away.  I just use sftp or dropbox to get files onto my phone
[05:19] <meganerd> anuvrat: mtp and I have a long unhappy history
[05:19] <anuvrat> it tried to open nautilus but came down with the following error message dialogs https://dpaste.de/DUTW
[05:19] <gr33n7007h> sup!
[05:20] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, how's it going?
[05:20] <Nimble> anuvrat, as a workaround you might try using jmtpfs
[05:21] <gr33n7007h> G3t a r3aL 0S
[05:21] <anuvrat> mtp-detect threw this error this time Unable to open ~/.mtpz-data for reading, MTPZ disabled.libmtp version: 1.1.6
[05:22] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: i deleted the volume that was created yesterday using the windows disk management utility
[05:22] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, ok, so where are we now with this install?
[05:22] <Lost_x> when i restarted to boot the ubuntu installer, there is this new option - Install ubuntu inside windows7
[05:23] <Lost_x> back in windows
[05:23] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, inside???
[05:23] <greylurk> Has anyone done an ext4->btrfs migration on their root partition?  Is it worth it, or should I just backup /home, reformat and reinstall?
[05:23] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: are we going to start from zero?
[05:23] <Lost_x> i can reinstall windows again
[05:24] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, don't understand the "inside"
[05:24] <Lost_x> ang make new partitions
[05:25] <pdevine> apt-get dist-upgrade just blew chunks for me on the new linux-image-3.13.0-32-generic kernel
[05:25] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: when i chose that option it just reastrated back to windows
[05:25] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: maybe that will be the wubi type installation
[05:25] <pdevine> anyone else seeing a problem?
[05:26] <meganerd> greylurk:
[05:26] <meganerd> greylurk: I would do a clean install with btrfs on /
[05:26] <LostNva> are you installing linux into virtualbox in windows.....trying to understand, curious
[05:26] <Lost_x> i will reinstallt the window
[05:26] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, let's boot the DVD and see
[05:27] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, please, no wubi. lol
[05:27] <meganerd> greylurk: I am not sure if the conversion will do nifty things like having / and /home on different subvolumes (which allows independent snapshotting)
[05:27] <Lost_x> ok
[05:27] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, let me know when you get to the "where to install"
[05:28] <greylurk> Actually, I've got /home on a separate ext4 partition right now (backup would just be for double-safety)
[05:28] <greylurk> But I'll take your word that there might be other "nifty" things that the clean install would do.
[05:28] <meganerd> greylurk: it can be handy to have them on the same partition, but different subvolumes
[05:28] <Lost_x> ok dave
[05:29] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: we are using the 64bit installer of ubuntu
[05:29] <greylurk> I like having them on different partitions, just because it makes it relatively easy to switch linux distros if I want.
[05:29] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, yes
[05:29] <Lost_x> the machine is 64bit, the windows7 is 32bit,
[05:30] <greylurk> Even when I get a new ubuntu release, I just reformat root, mount /home in it's correct spot, and I've got a clean install.
[05:30] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, that's fine
[05:30] <meganerd> greylurk: that is fine, but no other distro uses btrfs this way, so if you really want btrfs on root then it is a non-portable solution anyway
[05:30] <meganerd> greylurk: it is doable but there are extra streps
[05:31] <meganerd> greylurk: I guess what I am saying is that just having / as btrfs is kind of pointless.
[05:32] <meganerd> greylurk: in that use case it is just a filesystem, though you do get per block checksumming.  THe clean install makes things like apt-btrfs-snapshot work
[05:33] <meganerd> greylurk: if this is your only real machine, I would put Ubuntu in a VM with btrfs, and then play with the btrfs features there.
[05:35] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, please go straight into install. i want to do the partitions in the installer
[05:35] <santhosh> hai
[05:36] <Lost_x> ObrienDave: brb, boss is calling
[05:37] <ObrienDave> k
[05:37] <greylurk> meganerd: What does the @home subvolume buy you over having home on a separate partition?
[05:37] <meganerd> greylurk: apt-btrfs-snapshot
[05:38] <meganerd> greylurk: not having to partition out disk space in advance.  You get all the space of the device and can dynamically change quotas
[05:39] <greylurk> meganerd: so just the ability to roll back installs?
[05:39] <meganerd> greylurk: your question is deceptively simple.  btrfs has a lot going on under the hood.  If you are not interested in any of the advanced features, then it doesn't matter, though I wonder why you would want to move to it.
[05:40] <greylurk> meganerd: i'm mostly interested in the copy-on-write features.  I'm working quite a bit with lxc, and it seems like it's very useful for cloning containers.
[05:40] <meganerd> greylurk: the ubuntu install default is a good starting point IMHO.
[05:41] <meganerd> greylurk: I didn't think lxc and docker had stable support for btrfs yet?
[05:41] <greylurk> meganerd: lxc explicitly recommends using btrfs, I don't know about docker.
[05:41] <meganerd> greylurk: I use the per block checksumming and remote replication of snapshots mostly.
[05:43] <meganerd> greylurk: like I said, there is a lot going on under the hood.  You can of course carry on, business as usual, but since my home directory has a lot to gain by being on top of btrfs, it makes sense to me to not partition out the device.
[05:44] <roasted> How often does Unity index new files on your system?
[05:46] <meganerd> greylurk: I am heading out now, it should not hurt to do the conversion, though I have not tested this recently.  I do clean installs.  Get familiar with the documentation on btrfs, chances are there are ways to leverage it's features that you have not thought of yet.
[05:47] <greylurk> meganerd: yeah, i was just looking at the deletion of subvolumes and how that might assist with another problem.
[05:50] <LogicGates> hi there
[05:52] <rockerball_> Hi
[05:57] <pdevine> why hello
[06:02] <sam__> hey
[06:06] <Megatron2000> hi
[06:06] <Megatron2000> so.. can you install ubuntu via bios online these days?
[06:08] <Beldar> Megatron2000, Does that translate to a net install?
[06:09] <Megatron2000> idk, I suppose so \o/
[06:09] <Beldar> !mini | Megatron2000
[06:09] <Megatron2000> I just want to not have to burn a DVD or "burn" an image to a USB
[06:10] <Beldar> Megatron2000, If you have grub 2 you can boot the iso with it
[06:11] <Beldar> Megatron2000, One of your best tools is a live dvd/usb anyway
[06:11] <Megatron2000> hmm okay. No netinstall via bios then I suppose?
[06:12] <Beldar> Megatron2000, If you can explain what that is it would help me.
[06:15] <Megatron2000> some mobos has the ability to connect to an ip and install the OS from there, afaik
[06:15] <meganerd> Megatron2000: you can PXE boot the mini installer, no USB or CD/DVD
[06:15] <Megatron2000> :D
[06:15] <Megatron2000> this is weird. I have both the id_rsa and id_rsa.pub files in ~/.ssh. But I can't ssh to localhost "Permission denied (publickey).". Is something missing?
[06:16] <ts9i> Megatron2000: ssh-copy-id localhost
[06:16] <Megatron2000> are there official ubuntu PXE servers?
[06:16] <Megatron2000> ts9i: what does that do?
[06:16] <ts9i> adds the key authorized_keys which is what you need
[06:17] <ts9i> *into
[06:17] <meganerd> Megatron2000: nothing to do with the motherboard actually.  PXE enabled network card, but you need to have infrastructure to support it (dhcp server that supports options) and a tftp server
[06:18] <meganerd> Megatron2000: I have no idea what you mean by "are there official ubuntu PXE servers"?
[06:19] <meganerd> Megatron2000: PXE is a link local technology, which means that the DHCP server has to be local, that is connected to the same switch (well technically broadcast domain) as the machine that you want to network boot.
[06:19] <meganerd> Megatron2000: so the short answer is "not easily".
[06:20] <meganerd> Megatron2000: the less short answer is that it is doable (I in fact have this very setup in my house and in the office).  You will need to do some research.
using ltsp
[06:22] <Mekhami> hey i'm running ubuntu on a vm using virtualbox. can i access the files from there in my host os? i can't find 'em (at first glance)
[06:22] <santhosh> the concept belongs to ltsp
[06:22] <meganerd> santhosh: except if you don't want the other stuff that ltsp provides.  It also likes to be on it's own broadcast domain
[06:22] <meganerd> santhosh: no it doesn't
[06:22] <santhosh> eacuse same local pxe and dhcp it is in ltsp
[06:23] <meganerd> santhosh: dhcp server and tftp are all you need
create nfs server
[06:23] <santhosh> yes
[06:25] <meganerd> santhosh: ltsp does a whole lot more.  If you just want to install (or have utilities like systemrescuecd, lenovo bios update ISOs, spinrite, etc) then ltsp is not what you want.
[06:27] <meganerd> g'night all
[06:27] <DanaG> hmm, I'm getting a gpg error (citing debugsym repo)on updating package lists.  I've done the following about three times, with no change:   apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys ECDCAD72428D7C01
[06:28] <mantas> hello. After unexpected reboot I am getting "ERROR: asr: reading /dev/sdc[Input/output error]" on boot. The HDD is dead or just need fsck?
[06:32] <santhosh> The HDD is dead  ithink reinstall new one
[06:34] <DanaG> mantas:what is 'asr'?  Doesn't sould like any IDE or SATA controller driver I've ever seen.
[06:36] <mantas> DanaG don't know... next error is the same but now "ERROR: isw: reading /dev/sdc[Input/output error]"
[06:36] <DanaG> ah, 'isw' is Intel FakeRAID.
[06:37] <mantas> yes this drive is in fake raid
[06:37] <DanaG> hmm, mirroring, or striping?  hope it's mirroring...
[06:37] <DanaG> Consider trying "smartctl --all /dev/sdc"
[06:37] <mantas> from live cd?
[06:38] <DanaG> You can apt-get update, and then apt-get install smartmontools.
[06:38] <DanaG> (even on LiveCD.)
[06:40] <happyfr0gg> Could somebody help me to figure out the meaning of this??? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7853052/
[06:40] <ADW>  Anyone here familiar with FreeNAS?
[06:42] <ObrienDave> happyfr0gg, sudo apt-get install -f
[06:42] <ObrienDave> tells you at the bottom what it means
[06:42] <DanaG> adw:I've used it, but they do have their own channel.
[06:42] <DanaG> Trying to mount NFS or something from Linux?
[06:43] <ADW> yes, how did you know? lol
[06:43] <ADW> is it #freenas
[06:44] <DanaG> adw:Yup.  I'm using NFS mounted from it; the biggest trick is that the paths are absolute.  /mnt/somepool/dir1/dir2/...
[06:45] <ADW> okay, got it. I just set up the nas this evening. Have you had good stability with yours?
[06:45] <DanaG> I've been experimenting with mine a lot lately, so I can't judge too well.  Plus, I'm running it inside Ubuntu via VT-d, which is rather an edge (and non-advised) use case.
[06:47] <ADW> Fair enough. The more I'm reading on it, the more im impressed that this is open-source software
[06:48] <ADW> 10 years ago this type device was reserved for datacenters haha
[06:48] <DanaG> If you're considering buying hardware, note that ECC memory is _highly_ advised.  (Might still be good to move to #freenas)
[06:48] <happyfr0gg> ObrienDave - I typed into the terminal 'hwe-support-status --verbose'. It gave me the unmet dependencies error. I typed in what you suggested and then typed in 'hwe-support-status --verbose' again and I encounter the same problem.
[06:50] <ADW> alright, noted. I ordered two 1tb WD "red" drives, apparently they are better designed for this type use. Only specific motherboards take ecc ram, right? Like server and workstation boards?
[06:50] <meldron> hi guys, i just wanted to do a release upgrade, but I got this message: Processing was halted because there were too many errors. No I'm a little bit in panic mode. what should I do now?
[06:50] <ObrienDave> happyfr0gg, you have broken packages and unmet dependencies. they need to be resolved.
[06:51] <happyfr0gg> ObrienDave - that is what I am trying to figure out. I can't make sense of which packages are broken and what dependencies need resolving.
[06:51] <Beldar> meldron, The closer to a stock setup the more likely you will succeed. Have you added additional repos and apps/packages?
[06:52] <meldron> Beldar: yes i did
[06:52] <meldron> Beldar: i thought release upgrade disables all additional ppas
[06:52] <Beldar> meldron, Probably the issue, you can do a ppa-purge
[06:52] <Beldar> meldron, Yes but not the installed packages
[06:53] <EzioNix> Hi guys!
[06:53] <meldron> Beldar: ah okay
[06:53] <Beldar> !ppa-purge | meldron
[06:53] <ObrienDave> happyfr0gg, sorry, just a bit beyond my knowledge
[06:53] <meldron> Beldar: may be it's time the create a bootable device
[06:54] <Beldar> meldron, You should always have one really, not sure your reasoning in it's use however.
[06:54] <Faryshta> Hi. I am trying to install ubuntu 14.04 on a tablet but I can't get it to boot
[06:54] <DanaG> Yeah, PPA-induced breakage may require using Aptitude.  It can show you all the dependencies, then let you downgrade stuff to satisfy the dependencies.  It takes some getting used to the interface, though.
[06:55] <EzioNix> anyone here install Hackintosh on HP 14 Chromebook?
[06:55] <meldron> Beldar: i'm afraid it will be bricked after i do a reboot
[06:55] <Beldar> DanaG, Are you aware of ppa-purge?
[06:55] <meldron> so purge, then? upgrade again? apt-get -f install?
[06:55] <DanaG> Yup, I've used it, but sometimes I still need aptitude.
[06:55] <ObrienDave> EzioNix, hackintosh is not supported here
[06:55] <Faryshta> How can i install ubuntu 14.04 on an acer aspire p3 tablet?
[06:56] <Beldar> meldron, Look at the link I had the bot give you on ppa-purge
[06:56] <makara> hi. Every second time I start 14.04 Desktop the pointer stutters via mouse but not the trackpad
[06:56] <meldron> Beldar: i mean to complete my release upddate
[06:56] <EzioNix>  anyone here install Hackintosh on HP 14 Chromebook
[06:56] <happyfr0gg> ObrienDave - no problem. I will just make notes and then come back later with a fresh brain. I am fried right now after reading so many pages online.
[06:57] <ObrienDave> happyfr0gg, understood and good luck
[06:57] <Beldar> meldron, without knowing exactly what that means can't really help, and maybe even kow still not helpful.
[06:57] <happyfr0gg> Thanks.
[06:57] <Beldar> knowing*
[06:57] <meldron> 13.10 -> 14.04
[06:58] <ObrienDave> EzioNix, hackintosh is NOT supported here
[06:58] <Beldar> meldron, You are describing what sounds like a broken upgrade right?
[07:00] <DanaG> EzioNix: you probably want other IRC networks entirely, actually.  Most aren't even on Freenode.
[07:00] <Faryshta> has anyone here been able to install ubuntu on an acer aspire p3 tablet?
[07:01] <EzioNix> so its a crime to talk about it even
[07:01] <EzioNix> fair
[07:01] <EzioNix> has anyone managed to get Ubuntu working natively on HP Chromebook 14
[07:01] <EzioNix> hopefully this is more to your speed Obrien
[07:02] <Beldar> Faryshta, Are you aware of the uefi setup?
[07:03] <Faryshta> Beldar, yes acer tablets come with dual bios, so i am using legacy
[07:03] <Faryshta> Beldar, the problem is not in windows but ubuntu this time
[07:04] <Beldar> Faryshta, Is windows still there?
[07:04] <EzioNix> has anyone managed to get Ubuntu working natively on HP Chromebook 14?
[07:04] <Faryshta> Beldar, yes
[07:05] <Beldar> Faryshta, For best help here just describe to the channel what you have tried and where you are at for help.
[07:05] <tiblock> Hi. Why my friend see this on website? http://puu.sh/aqdFA/d5e14cd552.jpg but really http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.1/ Is that kinda bug on website? He installed x64 on 2gb ram because there is no x86 ubuntu -_-
[07:06] <Faryshta> Beldar, burned iso image with unetbootin, got an "error 8001 reading section" while booting
[07:06] <Faryshta> i googled and found this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/unable-creating-a-booting-usb-stick-4175419998/ which i followed and now i don't get it to boot
[07:07] <Beldar> tiblock, 32bit server http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/
[07:07] <Beldar> Faryshta, The channel no me in particular, the "has anybody" is just not relevant is all.
[07:07] <tiblock> Beldar, yes, but website says "64-bit only" http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[07:08] <tiblock> Beldar, he says there is no x86 ubuntu
[07:08] <Beldar> tiblock, My link is an official canonical link.
[07:08] <Faryshta> Beldar, so can you help me?
[07:08] <tiblock> Beldar, mine too
[07:09] <Beldar> Faryshta, If I could I would be doing so, and I have helped you in letting you know what the channel needs to help you.
[07:09] <DanaG> I've never found unetbootin very reliable.  More reliable on Windows is "LiLi USB Creator".
[07:09] <Faryshta> Beldar, well then let me keep asking
[07:09] <DanaG> I'm not sure if there's an official one, but that one works.
[07:09] <Beldar> not me is all Faryshta
[07:09] <Faryshta> has anyone here been able to install ubuntu on an acer aspire p3 tablet?
[07:10] <tiblock> Beldar, go to ubuntu.com click Download->server and see "64-bit only"
[07:10] <Beldar> Faryshta, THat is not how the channel works bro.
[07:11] <meldron> Beldar: yes
[07:11] <Beldar> tiblock, I cannot make it any clearer the link is a canonical link use it or not. ;)
[07:11] <meldron> Beldar:  Processing was halted because there were too many errors. while i did do-release-upgrade
[07:12] <tiblock> Beldar, i think we didnt understand each other. My question is "why website says there is no 32 bit version of ubuntu?"
[07:12] <Beldar> tiblockI understand you clearly.
[07:12] <ObrienDave> tiblock, http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/file?info_hash=%F9%BB%9A%98%DDk%A9%EB%C3%21%0C%C4j%F2%05dM%AD%DCx
[07:12] <ObrienDave> that is the i386 server
[07:13] <Beldar> tiblock, This is support, there is a 32 bit, we are not here to dissect website info.
[07:13] <tiblock> ObrienDave, yes, thank you. But why http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server says "64-bit only". New users (like my friend) thinks that 32 bit ubuntu is not exists.
[07:13] <ObrienDave> tiblock, i would not know why
[07:14] <tiblock> ObrienDave, Beldar, okay, i will find somebody who deals with website. Thank you.
[07:14] <Tarius> Hello people. I need copy data from one harddisc to another one with all folders,files and HARDLINKS. is this possible using command "cp -a src/* dst" ?? Copy that hardlinks between two hdds ?
[07:14] <Beldar> meldron, Most likely to get help, you will need that failure errors in detail.
[07:14] <meldron> Beldar: there were no other error messages
[07:15] <ptman> now that 14.04.1 is out, shouldn't do-release-upgrade work on precise?
[07:15] <Beldar> meldron, Outside my area or want to help to be honest.
[07:18] <Faryshta> has anyone here been able to install ubuntu on an acer tablet?
[07:18] <tiblock> ptman, update manager updater kernel to 3.2 but its still 12.04.4 and do-release-upgrade says no new versions
[07:19] <ptman> tiblock, yes, that's my experience as well
[07:19] <Tarius> I need migrate one disk content to another. Source HDD contains many hardlinks and I Need this copy to destination disc.
[07:19] <ptman> tiblock, I'm wondering why
[07:19] <ptman> tiblock, I've seen many times, that do-release-upgrade won't work until 14.04.1 is out
[07:19] <ptman> tiblock, well, now it is, so what is still missing?
[07:20] <tiblock> ptman, in case you find answer, tell me too.
[07:20] <ObrienDave> Lost_x, you still here?
[07:20] <geirha> ptman, tiblock: «Users of Ubuntu 12.04 will soon be offered an automatic upgrade to 14.04.1 via Update Manager.» http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2014/07/25/ubuntu-14-04-1-lts-released/
[07:20] <Tarius> command cp -a src/* dst work and copy data with hardlinks correctly bud I try this on single disc. Work this command betwen two HDDs and make correct hardlinks on destination HDD ?
[07:21] <tiblock> geirha, yuor url says i need to register. Man ubuntu's website sux.
[07:21] <geirha> tiblock: register to see the fridge? odd
[07:21] <ptman> geirha, thank you, but that doesn't really improve that much over what we can observe right now: 1) it doesn't work, 2) probably canonical will fix it at some point in the future
[07:22] <tiblock> geirha, and also ubuntu's website says x86 not exists http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[07:22] <ptman> tiblock, I didn't have to
[07:22] <geirha> ptman: Give it a day, it'll come around. That's what I interpret from it
[07:22] <ptman> tiblock, I believe very few server operating system vendors support 32bit x86 anymore
[07:24] <ptman> geirha, thank you, let's hope the wait is short
[07:24] <ObrienDave> http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.1/
[07:24] <ObrienDave> go get it, sheesh
[07:25] <Beldar> ObrienDave, That would not allow complaining. ;)
[07:25] <tiblock> ptman, well let me chose what hardware i have, not ubuntu.com. He dont know where and on what hardware i will install it. I think they need test x64 so they lie "WE HAVE ONLY x64, GET IT"
[07:25] <ObrienDave> Beldar, i guess so, dang
[07:25] <ObrienDave> tiblock, give it a rest, we gave you the links
[07:26] <Beldar> waiter I ordered 20 french fries and got 19 I want to see the manager
[07:27] <ObrienDave> for sure,
[07:28] <ObrienDave> at least my link quieted down the nay-sayers ;P
[07:28] <tiblock> ObrienDave, i not searching download link, i asking why website lying. Its like you bought candy for 1$ and tell your friend its good. He go and buy it but pays 10$ and you go to shop, and sellers tell to everybody its 10$. And you say "but it really 1$" and he tells "go get it for 1$, sheesh. I will sell it for you for 1$ now go away"
[07:29] <ObrienDave> tiblock, OMG give it a rest
[07:29] <tiblock> ObrienDave, and he tell you this too
[07:30] <ObrienDave> go take a chill pill, get some nookie, have a beer, whatever
[07:30] <krejsi> Hi, how do I partition automaticly with kickstart so /boot is on the first partition and the rest is LVM?
[07:31] <geirha> When the time comes to drop 32-bit support completely, upgrading a 32-bit install to a 64-bit install will be hard. Best not encourage anyone to get the 32-bit server
[07:32] <Beldar> geirha, No encouragement just stating it is available, and that is an opinion.
[07:32] <Beldar> based on no evidence of dropped support
[07:34] <geirha> I'm just guessing at the reasoning. It makes sense to me to not display the 32-bit version.
[07:34] <pdevine> cloud image #fail
[07:35] <ObrienDave> Beldar, you just like to stir up trouble ;P
[07:35] <Beldar> ObrienDave, Heh, yeah that critical thinking is a burden. ;)
[07:35] <ObrienDave> don't i know it LOL
[07:36] <buu> Anyone have an idea on how to force a hdmi monitor into 'off' or 'powersave' mode?
[07:36] <buu> Aside from xset dpms
[07:38] <Beldar> From the ubuntu website alternative downloads http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[07:38] <Beldar> 32 bit server
[07:42] <vader> whatsup
[07:43] <ObrienDave> 6' 6"
[07:45] <Faryshta> has anyone here been able to install ubuntu on an acer tablet?
[07:50] <Etale> Hi all. I just a brand new laptop, and I'm trying to get Ubuntu to dual boot with Windows 8. I burned 14.04 LTS to a DVD. The problem is now that I reboot into it,
[07:50] <Etale> after clicking on the "install ubuntu", it gets stuck on the "ubuntu" logo...
[07:51] <ObrienDave> etale, reboot DVD and see if you can check disk integrity, sounds like a bad burn to DVD
[07:51] <Beldar> Etale, Couple things, have you made a unallocated space using the W8 disk manager and are you using the uefi wiki?
[07:52] <krejsi> How do I create a preseed script?'
[07:52] <Etale> ObrienDave, I checked integrity...
[07:52] <Beldar> and checking the burn, and imaging windows for safety Etale
[07:53] <Etale> Beldar, what are all these things?
[07:53] <Beldar> !uefi | Etale
[07:53] <Beldar> Etale, Windows has a partitioner, you need to make a unallocated space for the ubuntu install with it.
[07:54] <Etale> I thought that I can deal with the partitions during the installation, no?
[07:54] <Beldar> Etale, Chances are no, and not a good idea anytime really.
[07:55] <malibuyan> slm
[07:55] <Beldar> Etale, another valuable link. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[07:56] <Etale> Okay, I'll take some time now to read through these things
[07:57] <blahbr> hi
[07:57] <Beldar> Etale, Imaging W8 to an external will save your booty if something goes wrong, and making a recovery disc in windows if you are without one or an install is good insurance as well.
[07:57] <Beldar> install disc*
[07:59] <volkan> How can I fix the following error?
[07:59] <volkan> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:59] <volkan>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6-dev-i386_2.19-0ubuntu6_amd64.deb
[08:01] <brontosaurusrex> volkan, was that when updating?
[08:02] <volkan> brontosaurusrex,  A few hours ago I updated Ubuntu. Now, I am getting this error.
[08:02] <brontosaurusrex> i'd try "apt-get autoremove" and update again
[08:03] <cyborgcygnus> boot-repair made one of my 4tb ntfs hdd not mountable in windows or linux. Looked at it in gparted & it had boot + hidden ticked on its partition, I unticked hidden but it did nothing. Can I fix this with gparted without formatting it?
[08:03] <brontosaurusrex> sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:04] <truongduthanh> 2
[08:04] <brontosaurusrex> ^ volkan
[08:04] <volkan> brontosaurusrex, "E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f." Should I use -f?
[08:04] <brontosaurusrex> volkan, probably
[08:05] <volkan> brontosaurusrex, Same error, "Errors were encountered while processing:/var/cache/apt/archives/libc6-dev-i386_2.19-0ubuntu6_amd64.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[08:05] <brontosaurusrex> volkan, exact command line you are using?
[08:07] <volkan> brontosaurusrex, Ubuntu's Terminal
[08:07] <pdevine> I just discovered something fun out about the Ubuntu Cloud Image
[08:08] <pdevine> it uses a single ext4 partition for the entire disk
[08:08] <mekhami> hey i have a CRITICAL error
[08:08] <pdevine> and the disk is formatted MBR instead of GPT
[08:08] <mekhami> i just installed ubuntu
[08:08] <mekhami> and i'm using a zowie celeritas keyboard
[08:08] <mekhami> and my ctrl/alt/shift keys are not working as modifiers
[08:10] <trijntje> mekhami: how do you know?
[08:10] <mekhami> because i can't shift-anything, ctrl-anything, or alt-anything
[08:10] <mekhami> what the fuck kind of question is that
[08:10] <SirLagz> mekhami: have you tried a different keyboard ?
[08:10] <trijntje> mekhami: be specific, which shortcuts have you tried in which programs?
[08:10] <mekhami> all of them
[08:10] <volkan> brontosaurusrex, There is an error icon on the toolbar. "Check if you are using third party repositories. If so disable them, since they are a common source of problems.Furthermore run the following command in a Terminal: apt-get install -f"
[08:11] <mekhami> and i don't have a different computer
[08:11] <mekhami> err, different keyboard
[08:11] <DJones> Oscar119/w 21
[08:11] <DJones> Grr
[08:11] <ObrienDave> volkan, sudo apt-get install -f
[08:11] <mekhami> i mean from start to finish i cannot use shift ctrl or alt as modifiers for keys on my keyboard ever for anything
[08:11] <trijntje> mekhami: thats not being specific, give examples please. Shortcut and program
[08:11] <mekhami> here's the example
[08:11] <mekhami> in case you weren't listening
[08:12] <mekhami> EVERYTHING
[08:12] <mekhami> there ya go
[08:12] <SirLagz> mekhami: does ctrl-alt-f2 work ?
[08:12] <blaaa> I am using aa-logprof to generate an apparmor profile, I get warnings about a service connecting to a postgres socket, but aa-logprof does not generate a profile for that...
[08:12] <volkan> ObrienDave, http://pastie.org/9419571
[08:12] <mekhami> no what's it supposed to do
[08:12] <mekhami> using alt by itself brings up
[08:12] <trijntje> fine, figure it out for yourself if you don't want help
[08:12] <mekhami> 'type your command'
[08:12] <mekhami> so when i do ctrl-alt-f2
[08:12] <mekhami> it does the same thing
[08:12] <SirLagz> ok...so ctrl isn't working then I guess
[08:12] <mekhami> neither is alt or sh ift...
[08:13] <yogesh> #vlead
[08:13] <SirLagz> mekhami: is this a laptop ? desktop ?
[08:13] <mekhami> and trijntje try being helpful and i'll accept help, you asked some really useless vague ambiguous questions. waste someone else's time
[08:13] <mekhami> SirLagz: desktop
[08:13] <svetlana> where do I view the file with the DE options in the lightdm menu please?
[08:13] <trijntje> mekhami: so at least the alt key isn't broken, thats why I asked you multiple times to be specific
[08:13] <SirLagz> mekhami: if you open a terminal, and hit CTRL-D, does the terminal close ?
[08:13] <mekhami> trijntje: none of the keys are 'broken' they worked 20 minutes ago on windows.
[08:14] <mekhami> SirLagz: idk how to open terminal without ctrl-alt-t
[08:14] <mekhami> SirLagz: i am unfamiliar with the basic ui here, i used gnome kde before and it's different
[08:14] <Fuchs> svetlana: depending on version: either /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d  or /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d
[08:14] <SirLagz> do the same thing that brought up the "type your command" window, then type in terminal
[08:15] <svetlana> ok Fuchs
[08:15] <SirLagz> mekhami: are you using unity ?
[08:15] <trijntje> mekhami: hit the windwos key, then type terminal
[08:15] <ObrienDave> volkan, sounds like a bad d/l
[08:15] <mekhami> no, ctrl-d does not close the terminal
[08:15] <mekhami> i just type the letter 'd'
[08:15] <mekhami> cause as i said before
[08:15] <mekhami> the ctrl and shift and alt keys are not working as modifiers
[08:15] <volkan> ObrienDave, what should I do?
[08:15] <SirLagz> right. just checking to see if it was a specific application.
[08:16] <mekhami> i said it was with everything. i meant everything.
[08:16] <ObrienDave> volkan, i'm not really sure, sorry
[08:17] <volkan> ObrienDave, ok, thanks
[08:17] <SirLagz> mekhami: never know with some people...
[08:17] <mekhami> SirLagz: sure. now you know, i'm not crazy.
[08:17] <ObrienDave> mekhami, have you accidentally changed keyboard layouts?
[08:18] <mekhami> no.
[08:18] <mekhami> it has something to do with the zowie celeritas keyboard
[08:18] <mekhami> it does not supported by the linux kernel i thnk
[08:18] <SirLagz> mekhami: open a terminal, run xev, and see if pressing the modifiers brings anything up in the terminal
[08:19] <mekhami> SirLagz: yes, it does, but it releases immediately
[08:19] <SirLagz> mekhami: that's not a problem. as long as it registers.
[08:19] <ObrienDave> mekhami, has it ever worked properly on anything?
[08:19] <mekhami> ObrienDave: on windows 20 minutes ago.
[08:20] <ObrienDave> k
[08:20] <SirLagz> mekhami: what keycode is coming up ?
[08:20] <volkan> ObrienDave, This worked: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2068352
[08:20] <mekhami> ctrl - 37
[08:21] <trijntje> mekhami: i've done some googling, looks like its a known bug with the keyboards that the company has no intention on fixing
[08:21] <mekhami> trijntje: is there no fix for me on my side
[08:21] <mekhami> SirLagz: shift - 50
[08:21] <SirLagz> mekhami: well since the keyboard is working and is registering keycodes properly, there's probably something you can do...
[08:21] <mekhami> SirLagz: alt - 64
[08:22] <ObrienDave> volkan, glad you have it sorted out
[08:22] <SirLagz> mekhami: sounds about right
[08:22] <bcvery> mekhami, SirLagz, Same issue (same keyboard), thread marked solved: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1957958
[08:22] <DanaG> hmm, the only case I've seen ALL modifier keys break was when I switched focus out of vmware, and I dared to have touched my keyboard settings.
[08:23] <SirLagz> bcvery: cool
[08:23] <trijntje> mekhami: here someone says they fixed it by using 'usbkbd' drivers, not sure what those are though. http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.input/28536
[08:23] <mekhami> bcvery: not really 'solved' as it says i have to use physical adapters which i don't own
[08:23] <DanaG> Set "right alt is altgr" or set "unicode keypad"... oops, now vmware can't comprehend the keyboard settings, and thus decides to wipe out all the modifiers.
[08:23] <DanaG> Thaaaaanks, vmware.
[08:23] <DanaG> How about I go to your office and pry all the modifer keys off your keyboards?
[08:24] <SirLagz> DanaG: lol. nice.
[08:24] <mekhami> i'm gonna rage if i have to buy a new keyboard to use my computer.
[08:24] <mekhami> 130 dollar keyboard 'oops we don't support linux'
[08:24] <DanaG> mekhami: try opening terminal and running 'xev'.
[08:25] <SirLagz> mekhami: back to the xev stuff, what happens if you do something like "ctrl-t" ?
[08:25] <SirLagz> mekhami: do the codes come up in the order of you pressing ctrl-t ?
[08:26] <mekhami> sirlagz let me try to explain what happens cause i'm not entirely sure myself
[08:27] <SirLagz> mekhami: feel free to pastebin the output if you want
[08:27] <mekhami> when i press ctrl i get keypress and keyrelease instantly
[08:27] <mekhami> SirLagz: i can't copypaste for obvious reasons...
[08:28] <mekhami> actually i can right click in terminal that's useful
[08:28] <SirLagz> mekhami: hightlight in terminal will copy
[08:28] <mekhami> http://pastebin.com/pALTBk7M
[08:29] <SirLagz> mekhami: ok, so same issue that my google searches turned up
[08:29] <SirLagz> mekhami: I don't know how much more I can help then, sorry =/
[08:30] <trijntje> mekhami: you could try using the usbkdb driver that I linked to, not sure if its still available though
[08:31] <svetlana> !info xlockmore all
[08:31] <svetlana> !info xlockmore
[08:31] <svetlana> why is it not in the latest release?
[08:31] <Faryshta> has anyone here been able to install ubuntu on an acer tablet?
[08:32] <mekhami> trijntje: i'm not sure how i can install those drivers. idk how. could you help with that part/
[08:33] <cfhowlett> !info xlockmore-gl
[08:34] <trijntje> mekhami: wait, I have a better idea how to fix it. Go to accesibility settings, and turn on sticky keys
[08:34] <SirLagz> trijntje: genious.
[08:34] <SirLagz> ingenious*
[08:34] <willwork4foo> Faryshta: I've had ubuntu Touch on an ASUS Nexus 7 - I think you need to stick to the compatible devices list.
[08:34] <SirLagz> genius ? ingenius ? i don't know anymore. it's late. Hometime ! talk to you later
[08:35] <mekhami> trijntje: oh god. horrible windows memories.
[08:35] <samurai> scusate  come si entra nel canale ubuntu-vhat
[08:35] <dexx> good day everyone
[08:35] <trijntje> SirLagz: thanks, I hope it works
[08:35] <samurai> join ubuntu-it-cht?
[08:35] <ObrienDave> !it | samurai
[08:35] <Faryshta> willwork4foo, cool. i have an acer aspire p3 but haven't been able to get it to boot
[08:35] <Guest79083> I am trying to install 14.04 on a PC but it hangs on "Preparing to install Ubuntu". Tried to repartition/reformat the SSD disk but still the same.
[08:35] <trijntje> mekhami: it should only apply to modifier keys, so it should solve your problem nicely
[08:36] <samurai> join ubuntu-it
[08:36] <Faryshta> willwork4foo, which steps you followed to install it?
[08:36] <mekhami> trijntje: it does, but not necessarily 'nicely' haha
[08:36] <trijntje> mekhami: not nicely? What kind of side effects do you get?
[08:36] <mekhami> trijntje: for instance if i do ctrl+alt+t, terminal pops up, but it holds one of the modifiers for the next keystrokeo as well, not sure which
[08:36] <mekhami> Also
[08:37] <mekhami> if i press shift and another key too quickly it acts like caps lock
[08:37] <willwork4foo> Faryshta: http://developer.ubuntu.com/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/
[08:37] <mekhami> not sure what that's all about
[08:37] <stclaws> I thought that this hanging on "Preparing to install" was gone in Ubuntu 14. Any clue anyone?
[08:37] <trijntje> mekhami: I've never used it myself, but it looks like there are a lot of sliders and check boxes to work with, try playing with those
[08:39] <trijntje> mekhami: you could also file a but with this workaround so other people can find out about it, and maybe complain to the company? If enough people do they might do something about it
[08:39] <mekhami> trijntje: it's a chinese company i think they give zero shits
[08:40] <Faryshta> willwork4foo, can't find my device there
[08:40] <dexx> ladies and gentlemen, I need to install xte but I can't seem to locate it, any ideas?
[08:42] <willwork4foo> Faryshta: then it won't work.....
[08:45] <trijntje> mekhami: at least file a bug, google searches bug reports, so it might help some other people who run into the same issue
[08:47] <GhostRecon> hi!!! :D
[08:48] <stclaws> Could someone point me to possible causes why 14.04 would hang on "Preparing to install Ubuntu". I tried to repartition/reformat the SSD disk but still the same. Can't find any solution.
[08:48] <GhostRecon> i <3 windows
[08:48] <cfhowlett> Faryshta so no one has attempted to install or no one has reported on it.  either way support is in #ubuntu-touch - not here
[08:48] <cfhowlett> !touch
[08:49] <GhostRecon> WINDOWS WINDOW WINDOWS C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32!
[08:49] <trijntje> some people have too much free time
[08:50] <cynicallemon> some people use a bad OS too
[08:50] <surfer77> #channelStarter_supporters
[08:50] <surfer77> You want to start a new Channel with more than 3 people?! no problem we're getting on it for free, so that you got it made!
[08:51] <cfhowlett> !spam | surfer77
[08:51] <hebz0rl> hi how can i get the version for an update for a specific packageß
[08:51] <hebz0rl> -ß +?
[08:51] <cfhowlett> k1l_ you are seriously on the case!  many thanks.
[08:51] <ObrienDave> k1l_ has faster fingers than cfhowlett ;P
[08:52] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave hebz0rl apt-cache policy will display
[08:53] <hebz0rl> cfhowlett, thx!
[08:53] <cfhowlett> hebz0rl happy2help
[08:54] <giorgiodinapoli> can any one help me with the vswithc stugg
[08:54] <giorgiodinapoli> stuff
[08:55] <drops> salut
[08:55] <drops> didli?
[08:55] <cfhowlett> !it|drops
[08:56] <drops> non
[08:56] <drops> didli?
[08:57] <krejsi> Hi, how do I partition automaticly with preseed so /boot is on the first partition and the rest is LVM?
[08:57] <drops> je cherche didli
[08:57] <cfhowlett> !fr | dropdrive
[08:58] <cfhowlett> !drops
[08:58] <drops> je tape se ou
[09:02] <krejsi> Hi, someone please help me with inserting a /boot partition of ext2 at the beginning of this preseed script http://pastebin.com/n1HYLj8G
[09:11] <krejsi> is it possible to have a /boot partition and a lvm partition on the next part?
[09:23] <manuel> Hi, i'm trying to edot my Hotspot Configuration through nm-connection-editor. But some options (i want to change) dont get saved. Now, i would be fine editing the corresponding file directly under /etc/NM/system-connections/Hotspot - My Question is there any reference as to the available options/Settings that go into that file?
[09:26] <coreder_> I'm getting a error when I open Vidalia
[09:26] <coreder_> it says tor already running
[09:28] <cynicallemon> coreder_, kill the process by issuing a "killall vidalia" and relaunch it
[09:29] <svector> Hi, any ideas why my grails 2.3 application is generating jUnit tests not Spock?
[09:29] <svector> Sorry guy wrong channel
[09:29] <svector> *guys
[09:29] <svetlana> that's ok
[09:29] <coreder_> cynicallemon: I get the same error.
[09:30] <svetlana> coreder_, maybe you also have tor running? `pgrep tor` should tell
[09:31] <cfhowlett> !info tor
[09:31] <cynicallemon> coreder_, ok, i then usually open the vidalia settings and uncheck "start the tor software..." in general section/tab
[09:32] <coreder_> svetlana: You were right. It showed two PID. I killed them both with kill -9 pid and launchd vidalia. It didn't work. Same error.
[09:32] <svetlana> look at what cynicallemon said and see if it gets you anywhere
[09:32] <coreder_> cynicallemon: it's already unchecked.
[09:32] <svetlana> hmm
[09:33] <cynicallemon> coreder_, also you need to select "use tcp connection" in advanced
[09:33] <coreder_> cynicallemon: "Vidalia was unable to start Tor. Check your settings to ensure the correct name and location of your Tor executable is specified." This is the error I get.
[09:34] <coreder_> cynicallemon: I selected it. Still not working.
[09:34] <coreder_> cynicallemon: Same error.
[09:35] <cynicallemon> have you fully exited vidalia?
[09:35] <coreder_> cynicallemon: I gave killall vidalia.
[09:37] <cynicallemon> coreder_, what does "ps aux | grep vidalia" show?
[09:37] <coreder_> cynicallemon: 32226  0.0  0.0  16996   916 pts/4    S+   15:07   0:00 grep --color=auto vidalia
[09:38] <coreder_> cynicallemon: but, kill -9 32226
[09:38] <coreder_> bash: kill: (32226) - No such process
[09:38] <cynicallemon> thats fine, just showing the grep so vidalia is inactive
[09:39] <coreder_> cynicallemon: $ whereis tor
[09:39] <coreder_> tor: /usr/bin/tor /usr/sbin/tor /etc/tor /usr/bin/X11/tor /usr/share/tor /usr/share/man/man1/tor.1.gz
[09:39] <cynicallemon> coreder_, i assume you are in the tor group
[09:39] <coreder_> should I change where it starts in vidalia?
[09:40] <coreder_> cynicallemon: I am not sure. How do I check?
[09:40] <cynicallemon> coreder_, just type "groups" at the command line
[09:41] <coreder_> cynicallemon: I don't see tor there
[09:41] <cynicallemon> coreder_, im on debian and the group is debian-tor
[09:41] <Pando> hi
[09:42] <coreder_> cynicallemon: groups |grep *tor returns nothing
[09:42] <WangWei> When I start to develop a scope app, I receive package 'libunity-scopes>=0.5.0' not found
[09:42] <llutz_> cynicallemon: thats the user/group tor runs as, no need to be member of that group to use tor
[09:42] <WangWei> How can I solve it
[09:42] <coreder_> cynicallemon: so I guess I'm not in the tor group.
[09:42] <Pando> I'm running ubuntu 13.04 64-bit, and I'm having trouble installing the blt package, the extension library for Tcl/Tk
[09:42] <Pando> aptitude only get 404 Not Found errors
[09:43] <Pando> and going on http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/amd64/blt/download, every single mirror seems to 404 too
[09:43] <llutz_> Pando: isn't 13.04 EOL now?
[09:43] <Pando> is there something weird going on with this package ?
[09:43] <llutz_> !eol | Pando
[09:44] <coreder_> cynicallemon: is there anything I can do?
[09:44] <cynicallemon> llutz_, the user should still be a member of the tor group
[09:44] <llutz_> cynicallemon: why?
[09:44] <coreder_> cynicallemon: I can run tor from the terminal, but my ISP blocks access to it.
[09:45] <coreder_> cynicallemon: I need vidalia to add the bridges
[09:45] <Pando> well, it would be a shame to have to upgrade the entire os for one package, but, well
[09:45] <coreder_> cynicallemon: if you can help me add the bridges from the commandline, that's fine.
[09:47] <llutz_> cynicallemon: oh its a vidalia thing, sry you're right
[09:48] <cynicallemon> llutz_, i know :)
[09:48] <FarLight> I made a ttf and am trying to install it
[09:48] <FarLight> it opens okay in the font-viewer but when I click install it says install failed
[09:48] <FarLight> is there any place I can check for logged errors?
[09:48] <FarLight> or get it to output some kind of error?
[09:49] <coreder_> cynicallemon: how do I add myself in debian-tor?
[09:50] <cynicallemon> coreder_, depends what group runs the vidalia process on ubuntu, you could try debian-tor
[09:50] <coreder_> cynicallemon: useradd -G debian-tor coreder
[09:50] <coreder_> useradd: user 'coreder' already exists
[09:50] <cynicallemon> useradd -a -G debian-tor coreder
[09:50] <yecril71pl> How do I create a multipart zip?
[09:51] <coreder_> cynicallemon: useradd: invalid option -- 'a'
[09:52] <cynicallemon> usermod -a -G debian-tor coreder
[09:52] <wlxead> lala
[09:52] <wlxead> ?
[09:53] <jelly-home> yecril71pl: zip command manual refers to a separate zipsplit utility
[09:53] <wlxead> 神兽！
[09:53] <cfhowlett> !cn|wlxead
[09:54] <cfhowlett> !kylin | wlxead
[09:54] <coreder_> cynicallemon: I still don't get anything in groups |grep *tor
[09:54] <yecril71pl> I cannot create the zip in the first place
[09:54] <yecril71pl> The archive manager says it has encountered an unidentified problem
[09:54]  * cfhowlett thinks the Ubuntu Kylin factioid should be written in Mandarin like !cn
[09:54] <yecril71pl> So the path to create the zip and then split it does not really work
[09:55] <meldron> hi guys, how can i configure that my monitor is turned off if the screen is locked (14.04, it worked in 13.10)
[09:55] <cynicallemon> coreder_, if the usermod command did not error then it added you to the debian-tor group, you will have to logout and login again for it to take effect
[09:55] <blackyboy> Audio not working in ubuntu 14.04, before its worked fine .
[09:55] <jelly-home> yecril71pl: is among the files you're trying to archive one equal or larger than 2GiB?
[09:56] <jethar> What is difference between 14.04.1 and 14.04 besides security update. If I install 14.04 with "get updates" at install do I get same thing as 14.04.1
[09:56] <cynicallemon> jethar - basically yes
[09:56] <yecril71pl> No, but du says over 5 GiB.
[09:57] <cfhowlett> jethar not quite.  apt-get dist-upgrades will make your system equivalent to 14.04.1
[09:57] <yecril71pl> Well, I am not sure actually
[09:57] <cfhowlett> ... assuming you currently have 14.04 installed
[09:57] <cynicallemon> lol
[09:58] <jethar> cfhowlett: in terms of installed software and others libraries would it make a difference except for version change.
[09:58] <k1l> jethar: think of it as service packs on windows. if you run the updates you are on the same pace. but its easier not to load all updates if you do a fresh install
[09:58] <coreder_> cynicallemon: I logged out and logged in. I'm now part of debian-tor, but vidalia returns the same error
[09:59] <k1l> jethar: you need "apt-get dist-upgrade" to get all updates. it doesnt make you from 13.10 to 14.04.
[09:59] <jethar> k1l: and cynicallemon: thanks.
[10:00] <cynicallemon> coreder_, is the start tor unchecked still, and use tcp connection selected still?
[10:01] <yecril71pl> Is Question #252160
[10:01] <jethar> k1l: just one more point. In case of move from 13.30 to 14.04 ppa repositories would change,. But for 14.04 to 14.04.1 they would remain same. Wouldn't they
[10:01] <coreder_> cynicallemon: start tor still unchecked, Use TCP connection checked.
[10:01] <cfhowlett> jethar correct
[10:01] <k1l> jethar: its only "trusty" technical
[10:02] <cynicallemon> coreder_, and path is /usr/bin/tor?
[10:03] <coreder_> cynicallemon: it's /usr/sbin/tor
[10:03] <cynicallemon> coreder_, sorry thats what i meant
[10:03] <coreder_> cynicallemon: yes.
[10:04] <cynicallemon> coreder_, in advanced section what is the settings for "tor config file" and "data directory"?
[10:06] <coreder_> cynicallemon: /home/coreder/.vidalia/torrc the file is empty
[10:07] <cynicallemon> coreder_, yeah i think that file is usually empty unless you add some customizations
[10:09] <coreder_> cynicallemon: is it possible to add bridges to tor without vidalia?
[10:09] <coreder_> I need vidalia just to add the bridges
[10:10] <coreder_> cynicallemon: tor starts fine, it's just vidalia that doesn't.
[10:10] <cynicallemon> coreder_, make sure the tcp connection has ip address of 127.0.0.1 and port of 9051 - i also my authentication password randomly generated too
[10:11] <coreder_> cynicallemon: TCP connection has the same config, and password is already set to random
[10:11] <cynicallemon> ok
[10:12] <cynicallemon> i also specified my data directory as /home/<user>/.tor - think it was /tmp by default
[10:13] <coreder_> cynicallemon: the data dir is empty.
[10:13] <coreder_> cynicallemon: should I specify it as you said?
[10:14] <cynicallemon> coreder_, yeah, it won't hurt
[10:14] <jhpy1024> Hey guys, I'm running Xubuntu 14.04 64bit and scrolling in the terminal is choppy and slow
[10:14] <jhpy1024> But scrolling seems fine everywhere else
[10:14] <coreder_> cynicallemon: Fine. I just did that.
[10:14] <jhpy1024> This happens in both xfce4's terminal and gnome-terminal
[10:15] <jhpy1024> (by slow scrolling I mean slow scrolling in vim)
[10:15] <cynicallemon> coreder_, all i can now suggest is just to reboot maybe, to freshen the system and see if it works - else im out of suggestions
[10:16] <coreder_> cynicallemon: thanks for all the help. I know this problem is weird. I guess I should post in the forums!
[10:16] <jhpy1024> I'm pretty sure it's not Vim because I've ran Vim with the default config ("vim -u NONE") and the slow scrolling is still there
[10:17] <cynicallemon> coreder_, vidalia is a pain on debian based systems
[10:18] <cynicallemon> coreder_, did you install vidalia from ubuntu repos?
[10:18] <coreder_> cynicallemon: yes. I did apt-get install vidalia
[10:18] <coreder_> cynicallemon: I'm on lubuntu, if that helps.
[10:19] <coreder_> cynicallemon: any idea under what category I can post in Ubuntu forums?
[10:19] <volkan> Can anyone chack this error please? http://pastie.org/9419804
[10:19] <feitingen> i'd like to test a heavily fragmented filesystem against a defragmented filesystem, do you know if there is such a thing as a filesystem fragmenter? (a de-defrag tool) any filesystem with posix support (not fat32) is good
[10:20] <MonkeyDust> volkan  try sudo apt-get update, first
[10:20] <cynicallemon> coreder_, i actually downloaded using tor projects repos so that maybe another avenue to explore
[10:21] <volkan> MonkeyDust, I did
[10:23] <MonkeyDust> volkan  try   sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:23] <coreder_> cynicallemon: I shall try that too. Thanks :)
[10:24] <volkan> MonkeyDust, http://pastie.org/9419810
[10:26] <MonkeyDust> volkan  libc means library for C (language) and gcc is related to that too, search in that direction
[10:32] <honglou> test
[10:33] <svetlana> hi it works
[10:34] <ObrienDave> \o/
[10:34] <Guest47064> can anyone say when do-release-upgrade is going to work for the LTS.. 14.04.1 has supposedly been released which is when it should work..
[10:34] <Guest47064> or is there a cache that I need to refresh or sometghing?
[10:34] <ObrienDave> when it works
[10:35] <cfhowlett> Guest47064 "when it's done" ... chillax.
[10:35] <ObrienDave> i'll do the snarky cfhowlett ;P
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> volkan  are you a developer?
[10:36] <volkan> MonkeyDust, no
[10:36]  * cfhowlett defers to ObrienDave's superior snark ability
[10:36] <ObrienDave> rofl
[10:36] <ObrienDave> you promised to be good :))
[10:37] <MonkeyDust> volkan  because all the failing packages end in -dev
[10:37] <Guest38675> Hallo. Ich habe gerade von Ubuntu 10.04 auf 12.04 geupdatet. Wenn ich den Rechner hochfahre, habe ich Probleme mit der Grafikdarstellung. Alles flackert und ich habe 4 Mauszeiger. Unmöglich etwas zu lesen. Irgendeine Idee
[10:38] <cfhowlett> !de|Guest38675
[10:38] <volkan> MonkeyDust,  I updated Ubuntu this morning and it asked me if I want  to remove unused things and I clicked the remove button
[10:38] <Guest38675> Oh, Sorry aber man hatte mich schon nach hier geschickt
[10:38] <volkan> After that, this happened
[10:39] <sonne> any idea why my precise servers don't see the trusty upgrade yet?
[10:39] <sonne> do-release-upgrade -c yields "No new release found"
[10:40] <MonkeyDust> volkan  updated from... to... ?
[10:40] <maxvi> I need something like this http://www.cadkas.com/downengcad4font2dxf.php but console variant for linux to create single line vector from a text.
[10:40] <Guest47064> sonne: AFAICT the relevant monkey hasn't flipped the switch yet
[10:40] <volkan> MonkeyDust, No, it was just a softwqare update
[10:41] <maxvi> or any php/python suggestion
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> volkan  what's the outcome of   cat /etc/issue
[10:41] <volkan> MonkeyDust, volkan@volkan:~$ cat /etc/issue
[10:41] <volkan> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[10:42] <MonkeyDust> volkan  ok
[10:42] <sonne> Guest47064, but it should be there theoretically, shouldn't it?
[10:43] <Guest47064> sonne: yes, I'm waiting the same too :)
[10:43] <sonne> alright :)
[10:44] <maxvi> how can I convert the image http://smages.com/images/untitlljl.png to vector spline
[10:44] <MonkeyDust> maxvi  try inkscape or gimp
[10:47] <TJ-> sonne: you can watch this URL for when Trusty shows up: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts
[10:47] <sonne> ah!
[10:48] <maxvi> MonkeyDust: I need console suggestion.
[10:48] <sonne> i thought it was somehow automatic that even.04.1 releases were LTS and ready for upgrades
[10:48] <langhun> hi
[10:49] <sonne> TJ-, as far as you know, does it mean that 14.04.1 hasn't yet been formally declared as lts, or that it's not ready and we have no idea when it will be?
[10:49] <ObrienDave> sonne, it's like rolling releases. not everyone is getting informed at the same time
[10:50] <sonne> ObrienDave, i see
[10:50] <MonkeyDust> maxvi  missed that part in your question
[10:50] <TJ-> sonne: Trusty is an LTS release. Adam conrad announced this morning that the 14.04.1 release is done, but for some reason neither the main archive nor the release-meta have been published
[10:50] <langhun> my wiress card driver is loaded  but  cant  use it
[10:50] <sonne> TJ-, i see
[10:50] <sonne> just a formal issue then
[10:50] <andie> ok, i need some help
[10:50] <sonne> i'm glad :)
[10:50] <langhun> no  ra0
[10:51] <andie> how can i change alternate users password via terminal?
[10:52] <andie> can i change a particular user password via sudoe?
[10:52] <cfhowlett> !password
[10:52] <NetBilly> Hello. I have an ubuntu 10.10 server with uptime 783 days. I tried to live convert it to vmware, which completed with no errors, but booting up the new VM gives error: 'init: ureadahead main process (342) terminated with status 5'
[10:52] <bcvery> maxvi, I don't know much about the program, but Inkscape can be used from terminal (Source: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Frequently_asked_questions#Can_Inkscape_be_used_from_the_command_line.3F)
[10:52] <andie> ubottu: does that work for an another user?
[10:52] <NetBilly> I checked fstab, and removed everything that doesn't point to sda, except swap, still give same problem. Any ideas?
[10:53] <andie> NetBilly: is there a way to change a local user password via sudo from another account?
[10:53] <NetBilly> I can only get onto the file system using recovery boot cd
[10:54] <TJ-> sonne: The upgrade does show up if you use "do-release-upgrade --proposed"
[10:54] <andie> how to i change another users password via root via terminal
[10:55] <cfhowlett> andie http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/12/how-to-change-password-on-ubuntu/
[10:55] <svetlana> use "passwd username"
[10:55] <andie> how to i change another users password via root via terminal? =(
[10:55] <andie> cfhowlett: yet?
[10:55] <svetlana> why do people rely on the web? :)
[10:55] <svetlana> andie, see what I said above
[10:55] <NetBilly> andie: sudo passwd andie
[10:55] <cfhowlett> andie dude ... READ  http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/12/how-to-change-password-on-ubuntu/
[10:55] <andie> cfhowlett: yes?
[10:55] <andie> cfhowlett: ok
[10:55] <svetlana> cfhowlett, no.
[10:55] <svetlana> andie, use "passwd username"
[10:58] <andie> cfhowlett: you
[10:58] <andie> cfhowlett: you will see if this works in a min
[10:59] <langhun> jerry@langhun-pc:~$ lsmod |grep mt760
[10:59] <langhun> mt7601Usta            814672  0
[10:59] <langhun> jerry@langhun-pc:~$ ifconfig
[10:59] <langhun> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 94:de:80:7b:e8:f0
[10:59] <langhun>           inet addr:192.168.1.2  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0          inet6 addr: fe80::96de:80ff:fe7b:e8f0/64 Scope:Link
[10:59] <langhun>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[10:59] <langhun>           RX packets:2018 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[10:59] <unopaste> langhun you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[10:59]  * ObrienDave sharpens up the snarky stick
[11:02] <sonne> TJ-, what is the difference exactly?
[11:04] <TJ-> sonne: packages in -proposed will be promoted to the main repository barring bugs/problems being found in them (rare).  The delay in the upgrade appearing is that the packages haven't been promoted as yet
[11:04] <sonne> TJ-, i see
[11:04] <sonne> thanks
[11:13] <TJ-> sonne: Just for completeness, when doing a --proposed upgrade, the UpdateManager.MetaReleaseCore fetches http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts-proposed (where you'll see Trusty listed). That list will move to .../meta-release-lts for do-release-upgrade to 'see' Trusty
[11:14] <halvor> hello
[11:14] <halvor> i tried everything to get an intel wireless working on 14.04, but no luck
[11:14] <halvor> it's N 7260
[11:14] <halvor> is there any guide on how to get this working that i haven't seen yet?
[11:15] <TJ-> halvor: Does the system have any network connection currently, via Ethernet?
[11:15] <halvor> yes, via ethernet
[11:15] <halvor> it's a lenovo l440 laptop, by the way
[11:15] <halvor> got the linux-firmware package installed
[11:16] <halvor> copied the firmware files from intel to /lib/firmware/
[11:16] <saizai> Sorry if this is a duplicate, but I’ve checked online and not found an answer: why is running sudo do-release-upgrade on my 12.04 LTS server not finding 14.04.01? AFAICT it was released yesterday.
[11:16] <halvor> nothing helped
[11:16] <saizai> *14.04.1 that is
[11:16] <TJ-> halvor: Can you "lspci -vvvnnk | pastebinit"
[11:17] <halvor> TJ-: with the | pastebinit
[11:17] <halvor> ?
[11:18] <saizai> (FWIW, do-upgrade-release -dc does find 14.04, but not 14.04.1)
[11:18] <TJ-> saizai:  Adam Conrad announced this morning that the 14.04.1 release is done, but the meta-release-lts notification hasn't yet been updated at http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts
[11:18] <saizai> TJ-: Ah, thanks. Any ETA on that?
[11:18] <TJ-> halvor: Trusty should have pastebinit installed, which will automatically pastebin the output for you
[11:18] <booliest> can anyone point me to a 14.04.1 download?
[11:18] <TJ-> saizai: 10 hours ago :)
[11:19] <saizai> so I’m not missing something then, it actually is behind :p
[11:20] <TJ-> saizai: Lots of people asking the same question, all impatient :)
[11:20] <saizai> eh, no worries, just wondering what the ETA was ;)
[11:20] <halvor> TJ-:  http://pastebin.com/rVjCkzbR
[11:20] <saizai> I don’t mind waiting, just thought I missed something
[11:21] <booliest> can anyone point me to a 14.04.1 download?
[11:22] <ObrienDave> http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.1/
[11:23] <TJ-> halvor: I don't see a kernel module for that device (10ec:818b) in the kernel, let me cross-check
[11:23] <booliest> thanks ObrienDave
[11:23] <halvor> TJ-: how can i set up the kernel module to load?
[11:24] <compdoc> just updated my 14.04 server, and now its 14.04.1   :)
[11:25] <TJ-> halvor: Are we talking at cross-purposes here? You said the device is a " N 7260" but the 'lspci' output only shows a Realtek RTL8192EE for wireless
[11:26] <halvor> TJ-: the specs of the laptop say that it has an intel wireless chip
[11:26] <TJ-> halvor: It doesn't according to that 'lspci'
[11:27] <halvor> TJ-: you are right. how could I install the needed drivers to get it working then?
[11:27] <TJ-> halvor: Only the upstream mainline kernel has support for that, in the 'r8192ee' module
[11:28] <TJ-> halvor I have the very latest linux v3.16 release candidate 6 kernel here, and it shows it has r8192ee included
[11:28] <halvor> TJ-: is there an easy way to get the latest kernel? or it is neccessary to compile it?
[11:28] <TJ-> halvor: You could install that from the Ubuntu Mainline kernel archives. see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[11:29] <TJ-> halvor: The Ubuntu mainline kernel are Ubuntu packaged builds of the upstream kernel with no additional Ubuntu patches
[11:29] <karab44> hello
[11:29] <halvor> TJ-: thanks, i think that will do it
[11:29] <karab44> I just returned from holiday and Ubuntu 14.04 don't want to update
[11:30] <paulo_> Hello
[11:30] <karab44> it says that there's no internet connection... well how's that possible I can chat on IRC ?
[11:30] <halvor> TJ-: i need both the image and the headers, right?
[11:30] <paulo_> I'm trying to download my kernel sources through  apt-get source linux-image-3.13.0-24-generic
[11:30] <paulo_> but it's giving me linux_3.13.0-32
[11:30] <TJ-> halvor: Yes, the _all.deb and $ARCH.deb packages
[11:31] <TJ-> halvor: usually its 3 packages required (generic or lowlatency variations)
[11:32] <halvor> TJ-: linux-headers-3.16.0-031600rc6-generic_3.16.0-031600rc6.201407210035_amd64.deb, 	linux-headers-3.16.0-031600rc6_3.16.0-031600rc6.201407210035_all.deb, linux-image-3.16.0-031600rc6-generic_3.16.0-031600rc6.201407210035_amd64.deb	
[11:32] <halvor> TJ-: is that the right 3?
[11:33] <Somaya> i tried to install ubuntu 14.04 using unetbootin along side my windows but it says no os deteced.what should i do?
[11:33] <TJ-> halvor: Yes
[11:33] <halvor> TJ-: i go with the generic
[11:34] <TJ-> paulo_: That is because all the binary packages are built from the same source package (source isn't versioned)
[11:34] <Somaya> anyone can help me?
[11:34] <paulo_> TJ-: I don't get what you mean. so *-24 is the same as *-35?
[11:35] <TJ-> paulo_: If you want the exact source you'll need to use the kernel git repositories
[11:35] <karab44> after I done apt-get update apt-get upgrade much different packages has been updated than these shown in update manager... Why is that?
[11:36] <Somaya> TJ , can you help me?
[11:36] <TJ-> paulo_: No. binary versioned packages are built using source-code from the source package. A source package contains the latest patches at all times.
[11:37] <paulo_> ok. thanks
[11:37] <TJ-> Somaya: Sorry, no, I'm working on other things here
[11:38] <Somaya> anyone else can't help me?
[11:39] <reversiblean>  /nick reversiblean
[11:39] <ObrienDave> Somaya, uefi machine?
[11:39] <reversiblean>      /msg nickserv register secretofkells7 reversiblean@live.com
[11:40] <ObrienDave> !uefi | Somaya
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> reversiblean  change your password!
[11:40] <reversiblean> thx
[11:40] <yeats> reversiblean: no spaces before the / for commands
[11:40] <reversiblean> ok
[11:41] <ObrienDave> egads ;P
[11:41] <reversiblean> oops
[11:41] <Somaya> ObrienDave,ubottu,tnx
[11:43] <ObrienDave> Somaya, http://itsfoss.com/install-ubuntu-1404-dual-boot-mode-windows-8-81-uefi/
[11:45] <tracyone> how can know /dev/sda is a hard disk or USB Disk
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> tracyone  lsblk or lsusb
[11:47] <tracyone> lsblk only list "NAME    MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT"
[11:47] <Yevgeny> I need help with expect script
[11:47] <Yevgeny> any body skilled at Expect scripting?
[11:47] <karab44> ok software updater started to work after apt-getting updates in terminal
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> Yevgeny  how is that ubuntu related?
[11:48] <paulo_> TJ-: there are two 3.13.0-24 in git, 3.13.0-24.46 and 3.13.0-24.47
[11:49] <paulo_> is there a way to get the commit hash of the running kernel via a shell command?
[11:49] <paulo_> nevermind found it
[11:50] <jnhghy> is there a terminal command to see if my motherboard is soket 775?
[11:51] <paulo_> now I have two tags left: Ubuntu-3.13.0-24.46 and Ubuntu-3.13.0-24.46^{}
[11:52] <ObrienDave> jnhghy, you can look that up on the net by your motherboard model #
[11:52] <jnhghy>  ObrienDave: I see, thanks :)
[11:52] <paulo_> TJ-: why are there two tags of almost the same name?
[11:55] <Somaya> but my system is 32bit i can't use uefi
[11:55] <roknrola> anyone for a question?
[11:56] <compdoc> sure. what is the meaning of life?
[11:56] <roknrola> you find your own
[11:56] <roknrola> what about my question
[11:56] <compdoc> you havent asked one
[11:57] <roknrola> ok. so i have 14.04. have my distro automatically upgrade to 14.04.1?
[11:57] <cfhowlett> roknrola not unless you set it to do.
[11:58] <compdoc> i manually upgraded 14.04 to 14.04.1
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> compdoc  you should add that you have 14.04 server
[11:58] <roknrola> under lsb_release -a it says Description:	Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[11:58] <Somaya> i couldn't solve my problem
[11:58] <Yevgeny> MonkeyDust: I use expect in a bash script
[11:59] <MonkeyDust> Yevgeny  i guess #bash is more what you want
[11:59] <compdoc> MonkeyDust, do you have desktop? didnt 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' work for you?
[12:00] <Somaya> is there anyone to help me?
[12:00] <cfhowlett> !ask | Somaya
[12:00] <MonkeyDust> compdoc  no, i returned to 12.04.3 ... even 12.04.4 doesnt suit my hardware
[12:01] <compdoc> Somaya, do you dual boot?
[12:01] <ObrienDave> Somaya, do you have the 32bit ISO or a 64bit?
[12:01] <Somaya> i tried to install ubuntu14.04 using unetbootin along side my windows but it says there is no os detected
[12:02] <Somaya> 32bit
[12:02] <Somaya> yes i want dual boot
[12:03] <ObrienDave> Somaya, have you tried to boot the computer after you saw the no os message? (normally)
[12:03] <Somaya> it says to erase the disk and i don't want to
[12:03] <compdoc> I think I once read that 32bit ubuntu doesnt support uefi
[12:04] <AlexPortable> sudo mount -t udf /dev/sr0 /mnt
[12:04] <AlexPortable> mount: /dev/sr0: can't read superblock
[12:04] <AlexPortable> how can i make it read anyway>?
[12:04] <Somaya> i quieted the installition
[12:05] <Somaya> obrienDave, what should i do?
[12:06] <idowi> how do i reply with quote on the forums?
[12:06] <ObrienDave> no, take the USB/DVD out and reboot. let's see if the computer is still ok first
[12:07] <ObrienDave> Somaya, ^^^
[12:07] <Somaya> yes
[12:07] <Somaya> it is ok and i have my windows
[12:08] <Somaya> obrienDave , did you got my answer?
[12:09] <ObrienDave> ok good, sec
[12:09] <Somaya> now what should i do?
[12:09] <ObrienDave> what OS is running now Win7?
[12:10] <Somaya> no it is windows 8
[12:10] <ObrienDave> then are you sure it's 32bit?
[12:11] <Somaya> yes i am sure
[12:11] <ObrienDave> ok, sec
[12:11] <Somaya> and my ram is 1 GB
[12:11] <cfhowlett> !
[12:11] <cfhowlett> 1 gig!
[12:11] <Somaya> yes
[12:12] <Somaya> why you asked?
[12:12] <cfhowlett> Somaya expect less than optimal performance due limited ram.  consider lubuntu or xubuntu
[12:12]  * ObrienDave suggests Xubuntu
[12:13] <paulo_> Are utopic and trusty ubuntu "versions"?
[12:13] <paulo_> what is the proper term?
[12:13] <Fuchs> yes
[12:13] <cfhowlett> !flavors | paulo_
[12:13] <Fuchs> releases or versions. I'd go with versions.
[12:13] <yecril71pl> I cannot see any keyboard layouts I could add
[12:13] <paulo_> For example, I want to say, don't use trusty, use another Ubuntu "version"
[12:14] <Somaya> obrienDave you mean i should use Xubuntu
[12:14] <paulo_> is version the right word?
[12:14] <yecril71pl> I can see them in unity but not when on the classic desktop
[12:14] <paulo_> ok, I think i'll use release
[12:15] <ObrienDave> Somaya, that is what i'm using now. 1GB ram the minimum for Ubuntu/Unity
[12:15] <yecril71pl> Oh, I see: Xkb extension not present over Xvnc
[12:15] <przemek> hello anyone could give me an example of LOA document? to
[12:16] <przemek> I need this in order to announcement own ipv4
[12:16] <cfhowlett> paul_ "release"
[12:16] <paulo_> przemek: that's very off topic
[12:16] <przemek> paulo_:  yes ineed your are right in this regards...
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> przemek  type / #ubuntu-offtopic, ask again there
[12:16] <cfhowlett> przemek or ##linux
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> przemek  type /j #ubuntu-offtopic, ask again there
[12:21] <loa> przemek, i can't, sorry.
[12:22] <yecril71pl> Why can´t I see the free space on disk in the Disk Utility?
[12:22] <yecril71pl> It says Available: -
[12:25] <WolfInSheepskin> hey gays
[12:25] <WolfInSheepskin> I think ubuntu has no future
[12:25]  * ObrienDave looks for snarky rock
[12:25] <WolfInSheepskin> For a simple reason
[12:25] <WolfInSheepskin> UPDATES
[12:26] <WolfInSheepskin> How do you think this will end?
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> WolfInSheepskin  thank you for sharing your thoughts with us, but not in this channel please
[12:26] <WolfInSheepskin> where is the ubuntu chat channel=
[12:26] <bgardner> !ot | WolfInSheepskin
[12:27] <ice9> how to review release notes of an update before installing it?
[12:27] <WolfInSheepskin> ok thx
[12:27] <AlexPortable> sudo mount -t udf /dev/sr0 /mnt
[12:27] <AlexPortable> mount: /dev/sr0: can't read superblock
[12:27] <AlexPortable> how can i make it read anyway>?
[12:27] <mmiller13> If a file system is corrupted on a usb device and unable to mount can you still view that device? Or can you force mount?
[12:27] <compdoc> ubuntu has a long future. thats just stupid
[12:27] <reversiblean_> test
[12:27] <renebarbosa> it has no future due to updates?
[12:27] <renebarbosa> o_O
[12:27] <k1l> dont mind the trolls
[12:27] <ObrienDave> wow
[12:28] <renebarbosa> k1l, really
[12:28] <ObrienDave> *must. not. feed. trolls*
[12:29] <yecril71pl> How can questions be made into bugs?
[12:29] <cfhowlett> renebarbosa don't fall prey Fear Uncertainty and Doubt (FUD).
[12:29] <fesef> does anyone know why my ext4 partition/system won't boot when I add data=journal in fstab under Ubuntu 14.04 ? Regards.
[12:30] <renebarbosa> fesef, you probably will need to enter in recovery mode and run tune2fs -o journal_data in that partition
[12:31] <MonkeyDust> !bug | yecril71pl
[12:32] <fesef> renebarbosa: oh, thank you.
[12:32] <fesef> renebarbosa: i will try it out immediatelly.
[12:34] <reversiblean> Do you guys upgrade to upstream kernels or  use the default kernel. I'm not sure if I should upgrade or not.
[12:35] <cfhowlett> reversiblean default works just fine the majority of users.  If you're not sure you need it, you probably don't need it.
[12:35] <mcdowell_> exit
[12:37] <ryadav> how to install sticky notes?
[12:37] <renebarbosa> ryadav, apt-get Install xpad
[12:39] <ryadav> Its giving invalid operation install
[12:39] <renebarbosa> sorry
[12:39] <renebarbosa> try apt-get install xpad
[12:39] <AlexPortable> mmiller13: no idea, it's a cd
[12:40] <renebarbosa> not "Install' with the first letter in upper case
[12:40] <mmiller13> It's a hd
[12:40] <AlexPortable> mmiller13: ?
[12:41] <mmiller13> I have a hard drive and the filesystem is not recognized; I get an error message: [ 1512.202655] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdc] Very big device. Trying to use READ CAPACITY(16).
[12:41] <ryadav> sorry but its giving
[12:41] <ryadav> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[12:41] <ryadav> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[12:41] <cfhowlett> !aptlock|ryadav
[12:42] <AlexPortable> mmiller13: sorry, thought you were replying to my question
[12:42] <Pici> ryadav: cfhowlett: no, just use sudo apt-get install xpad
[12:42] <mmiller13> What was your question
[12:43] <ryadav> thanks pici.
[12:43] <ryadav> it works.
[12:45] <Voyage>  is there a good screen recording sofware?
[12:45] <yecril71pl> Bug #1348621 reported
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> Voyage  recordmydesktop and byzanz
[12:48] <ObrienDave> Voyage, http://www.getdeb.net/app/SimpleScreenRecorder
[12:49] <magesing> Hi everyone, I have installed Unigraphics NX  7.5 on my system, and their support tells me I need to install version 319.32 of the NVIDIA driver for it to work properly... How can I install a specific nvidia driver on ubuntu?
[12:49] <Voyage> MonkeyDust,  any words about kazam?
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> Voyage  yes, that too is a screen recorder, try it, maybe you'll like it
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> Voyage  try a few, then stick to the one you prefer
[12:51] <reversiblean> When and how new kernel updates are released on Ubuntu? Why trusty still use an old kernel instead of the latest stable linux kernel?
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> !latest | reversiblean here's why
[12:51] <cfhowlett> !sru
[12:52] <reversiblean> OK I will check it out.
[12:54] <reversiblean> But what if the new kernel fix issues I was having.
[12:54] <cfhowlett> reversiblean compile and install from source.
[12:56] <reversiblean> I had already tested 3.14 trusty kernel and it fixed the problem. But I'm not sure if that kernel is compatible with the rest of the system and apps.
[13:02] <adminewb> (trusty/unity desktop) found and installed package indicator-multiload; now what?
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> adminewb  depends on what you are doing and what you want to achieve
[13:03] <adminewb> put some load indicators in the panel, what else?
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> adminewb  please stay plotie, we're not psychics
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> polite*
[13:05] <FuzzyWhirlpool> ///
[13:05] <adminewb> rhetorical questions=impolite, it appears
[13:05] <FuzzyWhirlpool> sorry, guys.
[13:06] <ObrienDave> ooooo, detecting snarkiness ;P
[13:06] <magesing> how can I do what the "Additional drivers" tool does from the command line?
[13:07] <adminewb> already went to the launchpad home page, no docs to be found
[13:07] <robairt> My chrome keeps crashing this morning =/
[13:07] <jethar> thanks Laif
[13:07] <magesing> I'm using the tool to mess with my video drivers... so I want to be able to reverse what it does without graphics just in-case it breakes em.
[13:09] <robairt> hmm maybe because I was on page 53 of reddit
[13:10] <adminewb> I take it no one uses indicator-multiload
[13:10] <adminewb> are there better ways to achieve roughly the same thing?
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> adminewb  just installed it (in precise), looks nice
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> adminewb  what happens if you enter 'indicator-multiload' in a terminal?
[13:12] <nvidia> hi
[13:13] <adminewb> just now, it appears to monitor just cpu in the panel
[13:13] <hellyeah> hey
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> adminewb  ok, click on the icon > preferences > select what you want
[13:13] <nvidia> I tried to install nvidia's driver from their website. All I have now is a black screen.
[13:13] <hellyeah> what does persistance stands for
[13:13] <hellyeah> i will do live usb and ask me about persistance?
[13:13] <hellyeah> what do i need to do?
[13:13] <adminewb> so then, this executable belongs in one's .profile or such like?
[13:14] <Nikkolo> hey i have a question about cronjobs
[13:14] <ObrienDave> hellyeah, it's for storage on a USB drive
[13:14] <Pici> hellyeah: If you want to save files on the usb and have them be there the next time you use it elsewhere.
[13:14] <nvidia> I wasn't happy with nvidia-current-update since it's obsolete. Current version is 340, and the one that comes with ubuntu is 304 .. I mean, are you kidding me?
[13:14] <adminewb> I see, thanks
[13:14] <Corey84> is there currently or in the works a ubuntu version of kmod-wl  for broadcom
[13:14] <hellyeah> is it necessary to use that?
[13:15] <Nikkolo> if i run a command like "tar  -czf name.tar /home/custom/
[13:15] <Nikkolo> where the tar is saved?
[13:15] <hellyeah> under custom
[13:15] <Corey84> cd /filename
[13:15] <Nikkolo> but witg cronjob
[13:16] <Pici> Nikkolo: likely in your user's home.  You should really provide an absolute path to the tar though.
[13:16] <Corey84> Nikkolo, tar -czf /home/custom && cd will put you there
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> Nikkolo  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto#How_Anacron_is_Arranged
[13:16] <ObrienDave> hellyeah, if you don't need to store things on the USB, then no you don't need persistance
[13:17] <Corey84> using a downstream distro and having isssues with b43 &  bcmwl on anything pass 3.14 is canonical dropping support?
[13:18] <Nikkolo> so i need to put on cronjob command "tar -cfz name.tar /home/custom && cd" ?
[13:19] <Pici> Nikkolo: do: tar -cfz /path/to/name.tar /home/custom
[13:19] <FuzzyWhirlpool> ver FuzzyWhirlpool
[13:19] <digidog> hey guys :-) does aynone know how to get rme firface UFX audio interface supported in latest 14.04
[13:19] <magesing> How can I benchmark my systems opengl performance? I want to check if my video-card is playing nicely with the drivers I have installed for it
[13:19] <adminewb> never heard of vala before, and installing the indicators applet didn't bring in boat loads of run time; someone have some overview reference stuff on vala?
[13:21] <setzer22> Hello
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> adminewb  if you don't know what it is or does, why do you want it?
[13:22] <Nikkolo> pici with the code you wrote it will call the tar with folder name? "im pretty noob to ubuntu" i just started to use it :)
[13:22] <setzer22> Does anyone know how to install ubuntu without a desktop environment? I just want the kernel, the drivers, and of course the ubuntu repositories, but I want to build the "desktop environment" by myself with openbox
[13:22] <adminewb> found a wikipedia entry, answered my own question re: vala
[13:22] <iem> Hi there all, what just trying to reisntall unity* after what appears to be a good hosing from what was meant to be an atempt at install the lowlatancy kernel and now apt-get is telling me that I have some how created an imposiable situation by the way of un-met dependancies. Anyone got any ideas? And is install installing the lowlatacny Kernel usually meant to hose your desktop enviroment? And oh it's Ubuntu 14.04. Thanks for read
[13:23] <Pici> Nikkolo: The first argument to tar -cfz is the location of the tar file you want to create. You can put any valid path in there.
[13:23] <adminewb> why, because I don't like to be gobsmacked randomly by something installed on my system I wasn't even aware of
[13:25] <Nikkolo> oh i alyway did tar -czf name.tar, this make the tar in the current path im right? but if i do /custom2/name.tar it will create the tar T custom2 with name nMe.tar?
[13:25] <krejsi> I have ubuntu 14.04 desktop installation usb. How do I choose to use my preseed file?
[13:25] <Nikkolo> name.tar*
[13:26] <Nikkolo> ty pici :) and ty to others for helping noobs like me :P
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> Nikkolo  in time, you'll be helping others
[13:31] <nvidia> how do I install the latest nvidia driver on ubuntu with apt-get? There's only version 304 or so available, latest is 340 and I need that since it fixes a bug
[13:32] <nvidia> test.. can anyone see this?
[13:32] <nith1210> Yes we see this.
[13:33] <nith1210> nvidia: I recommend the xorg edgers PPA, which has 340 in it. It'll be less stable than the default though as it's basically where they're testing the newest stuff.
[13:33] <nith1210> nvidia: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[13:33] <jellow> nvidia, Have you searched for a PPA for latest unstable version?
[13:33] <nith1210> nvidia: They do have the 340 driver there.
[13:35] <nvidia> can it be installed without getting autmated updates? I don't want it to update one day and destroy my system :D
[13:35] <iem> Okay I just tried apt-get install compiz* wow that's a lot of stuff!
[13:36] <jeffreylevesque> When I start my machine I get 'Status: 0xc0000225'
[13:36] <jeffreylevesque> 'Info: The boot selection failed because a required device is inaccessible'
[13:36] <nith1210> nvidia: The easiest way I know of to do that would be to install the ppa, install the driver, then disable the ppa.
[13:36] <jeffreylevesque> wrong channel
[13:36] <jeffreylevesque> sorry
[13:37] <trijntje> nvidia: just go to the ppa, download the deb manually and install it
[13:37] <nvidia> yaaay
[13:37] <Corey84> or sudo apt-get install nvidia-340-updates nvidia
[13:37] <nith1210> nvidia: If you download the deb's manually, you had better get all of the dependency's.
[13:38] <niko> /28/90
[13:38] <nvidia> Corey84: ther aren't such a package
[13:38] <trijntje> nvidia: you still shouldn't do that though, one of the reasons linux is more secure then windows is that you get automatic updates for all software
[13:38] <nvidia> but I can't stick with version 304 when 430 is out, that's madness :O
[13:39] <nvidia> especially when we're talking graphics drivers
[13:39] <nith1210> nvidia: actually it makes sense if you're after stability.
[13:39] <Corey84> apt-cache search nvidia-* then and find the latest you can use and install it nvidia keep in mind not always best to use bleeding edge drivers too early
[13:39] <Corey84> no kernel or wifi geeks in house i guess
[13:40] <iem> So is there a magic command for reinstalling unity and all it's dependancies?
[13:40] <Corey84> try 331 nvidia
[13:40] <Corey84> that IS in the repos
[13:40] <nvidia> Corey84: I suppose. thanks
[13:40] <Corey84> or 337
[13:41] <Corey84> and you mean 340 right not 430
[13:41] <trijntje> iem: what are you trying to do?
[13:41] <nith1210> iem: sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity
[13:41] <Corey84> ^^
[13:41] <nvidia> Corey84: is 337 isn't in the repo? :P (340, yeah)
[13:41] <trijntje> nith1210: does that also reinstall all dependencies?
[13:42] <Corey84> then 331 for sure then
[13:42] <nith1210> trijntje: it won't reinstall dependencies, but if something's broken it'll pull them down.
[13:42] <nith1210> trijntje: sorry, by broken, I mean missing
[13:43] <Corey84> or not fully installed/removed too
[13:43] <nith1210> Corey84: Not that I'll have the answer, but what was your question? I think I joined after it.
[13:43] <fredde> Hello ! I got a little bit of a boot problem. I run win xp and installed first Mint 17 but then I wanted to try Ubuntu. So I am tripple booting and it works fine, but I don't have use for Mint so I want to uninstall it. How do I proceed ?
[13:44] <nvidia> Corey84: 331-updates, any reason not to take that one instead of just 331 (without updates)?
[13:44] <adminewb> fredde, what is your boot loader?
[13:44] <fredde> grub
[13:44] <iem> Cool nith1210, super cool
[13:44] <iem> :)!
[13:44] <Corey84> having issues gettign b43 to stick across reboots in 3.14+ kernels having to modprobe EVERY BOOT
[13:45] <iem> trijntje: reinsatll unity
[13:45] <trijntje> iem: but why? What problem do you have, and why do you thing reinstalling will fix it?
[13:46] <adminewb> fredde, for grub, seems you should be able to just remove its boot entries from grub's config, and then decommission all the disk partitions that are dedicated to Mint; make sense?
[13:46] <Corey84> fredde, find me in #linuxmint-help (same nick) thats easy and more mint related
[13:46] <trijntje> adminewb: won't grub break? The grub files are on /boot on the mint partition, so if you remove those the pc won't be able to boot ubuntu
[13:47] <nith1210> Corey84: Sorry, they only thing I know if is if you have it blacklisted by accident in /etc/modprobe.d
[13:47] <fredde> W
[13:47] <adminewb> fredde, understood, maybe Corey84 has a more comprehensive answer
[13:48] <guest-2XjFwJ> After upgrading to 14.04 I can no longer login. I get invalid login error.
[13:48] <fredde> yepp thanx anyway =)
[13:48] <Corey84> System:    Host linux-devbox Kernel 3.16.0-031600rc6-lowlatency x86_64 (64 bit gcc 4.6.3)
[13:48] <Corey84>            Desktop Xfce 4.11.6 (Gtk 2.24.23) dm mdm Distro Linux Mint 17 Qiana
[13:48] <Corey84> fredde, see you over on spotchat
[13:49] <trijntje> guest-2XjFwJ: what is the exact error you get? Sounds like you forgot your password
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> guest-2XjFwJ  try this:   ctrl-alt F1 > enter password > sudo chown -R youruser:youruser /home/youruser
[13:49] <guest-2XjFwJ> trijntje, and MonkeyDust I didn't forget my password and I cannot login in via tty or ssh.
[13:50] <Corey84> its fine on 3.14 and no explicit changes unless its in the buildlog and i missed will check tho
[13:50] <DerekKeyPL> Hi all. I'm new here, so hello :)
[13:50] <shoerain> Can I run something like `sudo service nginx log` (assuming nginx is an upstart service) to start tailing the log for upstart? Would be convenient over `tail -F /var/log/upstart/nginx.log` -- this is on ubuntu 12.04
[13:50] <trijntje> guest-2XjFwJ: if you login via tty, don't use any capitals in your username
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> guest-2XjFwJ  then make sure your caps lock is not switched on
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> trijntje  was faster :)
[13:51] <nvidia> cuda c++ is supported in just two nvidia-driver versions newer than the one that ubuntu provides D: .. or has anyone else used cuda c++ with the drivers from ubuntu's repo?
[13:51] <guest-2XjFwJ> trijntje, MonkeyDust I do not have caps lock enable and the exact error is login invalid.
[13:52] <guest-2XjFwJ> I can log into my VPN which has the same password, so I know that my password is fine. trijntje MonkeyDust
[13:53] <nvidia> wait.. that's one version more even. 332 supports cuda, 331 is the one ubuntu supports :(
[13:53] <guest-2XjFwJ> MonkeyDust, how would I chown using chroot and live disk?
[13:54] <guest-2XjFwJ> user id
[13:55] <guest-2XjFwJ> uid:gid maybe?
[13:55] <guest-2XjFwJ> and then I don't need chroot right?
[13:55] <iem> trijntje: Errr after tring to install the lowlatacy kernel the desktop got hosed, so I guess I was just hoping to get some sort of desktop back some how
[13:56] <trijntje> guest-2XjFwJ: thats weird, I get another error when I try to login with the worng password
[13:56] <Corey84> nvidia, its updated as 331 is a snapshot IIRC
[13:56] <nith1210> nvidia: have you tried the nvidia-cuda-dev package?
[13:56] <loa> how i can open samba folders in nautilus?
[13:56] <Corey84> nith1210, no dice in /etc/modprobe.d
[13:56] <trijntje> iem: did you add a PPA or something? If not you should just switch back to a previous kernel and everything should be fine
[13:56] <loa> i forgot this =/
[13:56] <guest-2XjFwJ> so maybe the user doesn't exist trijntje
[13:57] <Corey84> connect to server option loa
[13:57] <trijntje> loa: file -> connect to server
[13:57] <nvidia> nith1210: I just heard about it :)
[13:57] <Corey84> same as you'd do for a VM loa
[13:57] <nith1210> nvidia: apt-cache search cuda
[13:57] <loa> Corey84, TriJetScud so i can't just hit ctrl+L and enter something like smb:\\192.168.0.1 ?
[13:58] <loa> i remember such thing
[13:58] <trijntje> loa: smb:\\ could work
[13:58] <iem> Yeah I use a ppa or two but they were only meant to be for a few things but looks like unity stuff is in there as well
[13:58] <cipher__> can anyone recommend an alternative to dovecot, it is not complying with setup?
[13:58] <trijntje> !ppapurge
[13:58] <Corey84> dovecot is for ?
[13:59] <cipher__> mail
[13:59] <guest-2XjFwJ> trijntje, yep I am not in the passwd file
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> cipher__  is that a server? if yes, better ask in #ubuntu-server
[13:59] <nith1210> Corey84: What version of ubuntu are you using and do you have a blacklist entry for bcm43xxx? I find a note about b43 in my blacklist.conf.
[14:00] <iem> trijntje: Maybe I turn off the ppa's before I run apt-get install --reinstall-unity?
[14:00] <trijntje> guest-2XjFwJ: thats weird, and this happened after an upgrade?
[14:00] <Corey84> nith1210, trusty and that is foro the propreitary Not B43 (the o/s driver)
[14:01] <guest-2XjFwJ> yes, do-release-upgrade trijntje
[14:01] <Corey84> if you read the line it says replaced BY b43 lol
[14:01] <trijntje> iem: you have to purge the ppa's, that way it will remove all packages from those ppa. If you just disable them you wont get new updates, but you will keep the weird packages you got from the ppa
[14:01] <nith1210> Corey84: right, which might also mean that they conflict hense the blacklist on the older driver.
[14:01] <Corey84> release-upgrade ?
[14:01] <Drecondius> I know the bcm divers don't work for my Wi-Fi adapter
[14:01] <nith1210> Corey84: do you have anything in dmesg about the driver?
[14:01] <iem> trijntje: kay roger that, thanks!
[14:01] <Corey84> they do for me but i hate them
[14:02] <Drecondius> Is it a Belkin f9l1101
[14:02] <liquidAnger> hi all
[14:02] <Corey84> and niether one works post 3.14.12 on ubuntu kernels only my RPM boxes when using kmod-wl
[14:02] <trijntje> guest-2XjFwJ: is there any user with UUID > 1000 in that file?
[14:03] <trijntje> guest-2XjFwJ: in this column: cat /etc/passwd | cut -d ':' -f 3
[14:03] <guest-2XjFwJ> desktopadmin but I don't have access to that trijntje
[14:04] <trijntje> guest-2XjFwJ: is this your own PC, or is someone else the administrator?
[14:04] <trijntje> /owner/whatever
[14:04] <guest-2XjFwJ> maybe I will drop to root from recovery
[14:04] <trijntje> guest-2XjFwJ: what is the output of ls /home
[14:05] <trijntje> are your files still there?
[14:05] <guest-2XjFwJ> trijntje, I am using guest account so I can't ls /home
[14:05] <guest-2XjFwJ> which is ironic since I can cat /etc/passwd trijntje
[14:06] <Dom951> italiani online?
[14:06] <guest-2XjFwJ> trijntje, the computer is my work computer, but this is a bank holiday so...
[14:06] <nvidia> why isn't nvidia 340 supported  by ubuntu (yet)?
[14:06] <guest-2XjFwJ> Dom951, l'inglessi solo
[14:06] <serdem420> hey guys, i installed apache2 with mod_python
[14:06] <paulo_> pls recommend a downloader, one with continue capablility
[14:07] <serdem420> but when i type url it shows the python code. it doesn't run it.
[14:07] <trijntje> guest-2XjFwJ: hm, I dont think we can help you break into a computer that isn't yours. Sorry
[14:07] <guest-2XjFwJ> trijntje, it is my computer and I am not breaking in. Thanks for the help. I will just drop to root shell.
[14:08] <Corey84> nvidia, its buggy as hell thats why and again i warn of using newest drivers too early
[14:08] <Corey84> nvidia isnt known for thorough linux testing pre-release
[14:08] <guest-2XjFwJ> I am stoked about people assuming you are both stupid and up to no good.
[14:08] <nvidia> alrightey :)
[14:08] <adminewb> paulo_, using here aria2c for some things, you have something particular in mind? gui? shell command?
[14:08] <nvidia> how do I check what graphic driver I'm currently using?
[14:08] <trijntje> guest-2XjFwJ: good luck. I trust your not trying to do something illegal, but your company might have suspended your account for some reasone we don't know about
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> Corey84  true, Thorvalds publicly gave 'the finger' to nvidia
[14:09] <Corey84> lol MonkeyDust and the NSA about selinux backdoors
[14:10] <nvidia> MonkeyDust: I can understand why
[14:10] <daftykins> nvidia: /var/log/Xorg.0.log will show what driver X settled on
[14:10] <paulo_> adminewb: shell is ok. Does it make multiple connections for faster speed?
[14:11] <adminewb> aria2c can do multiple ftp connections to any number of hosts, yes
[14:11] <adminewb> also it does metalink and bittorrent
[14:13] <RPR> Does anyone know how to tell Ubuntu to not hijack the Alt key for a the command window.  So many applications use the Alt key to do useful things, it makes no sense to me to have Ubuntu hijack it.
[14:14] <adminewb> RPR maybe you need to switch to another desktop? and not use unity
[14:14] <trijntje> RPR: you have to use compizxconfig settings manager for that
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> RPR  that's one way of seeing it, you can alos say that the applications hijack it
[14:15] <RPR> MonkeyDust, seriously?  Depends on how old you are I guess.  The Alt key has been widely used, for I don't know years and years.
[14:15] <brasileiro> hi everyone... I'm having waves of high CPU usage and fan activity especially when watching videos (fiefox flash videos, VLC, mplayer, you name it)... the thing is that firefox goes as high as 70% of CPU usage even thou I'm using optirun (bumblebee) to run it... my hardware is pretty good (intel i7, nvidia GT650M, 6gb DDR3) so it shouldn't be happening.. any ideas??
[14:16] <clin> hi, how do I setup a new font in .Xresources. I can run  xterm -fa "Monaco" -fs 12 and it opens new xterm with Monaco font. What should be there in .Xresources file to always use this font?
[14:16] <krejsi> I have ubuntu 14.04 desktop installation usb. How do I choose to use my preseed file when I boot with the USB? It just asks me to either try ubuntu or install ubuntu
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> RPR  true, but there's only a limited number of keys on a keyboard, some have double uses
[14:17] <adminewb> ... so it occurs to me there's a related question: can trusty users each configure their own kind of DE, but still be able to switch between their graphical terminals with Ctrl-Alt-Fx?
[14:18] <nvidia> brasileiro: you need hardware acceleration .. your CPU is doing what your GPU should be doing.
[14:18] <brasileiro> nvidia, but i'm already using bumblebee to open firefox... and using HTML5 to play the flash videos
[14:18] <nvidia> brasileiro: sudo apt-get install nvidia-331-updates    and then sudo nvidia-xconfig and you're done
[14:19] <nvidia> brasileiro: what's bumblebee?
[14:19] <adminewb> !optirun
[14:19] <cfhowlett> !info bumblebee
[14:19] <kstenger> hello, I'am trying to repair a broken usb which only holds the /boot partition with grub in it. I've followed all the instructions to chroot into my system as it should be, mounting every mountpoint, chrooting into it, then grub-install to the usb stick device, then update-grub. Everything goes out smoothly, but in the end, the only OS detected by grub is the Win7 I have at another partition of my harddrive, and not the linux one. Linux is installed into a
[14:19] <Synchunk> kty
[14:19] <brasileiro> nvidia, the project to run Optimus NVIDIA GPU
[14:20] <brasileiro> nvidia, like GT650M (mine)
[14:20] <daftykins> i believe nvidia-prime is a more valid choice than bumblebee now
[14:20] <brasileiro> daftykins, i've heard it has some issues regarding hibernation... =/
[14:21] <trijntje> kstenger: your message got truncated, please split it up in smaller chunks. "Linux is installed into a.."
[14:21] <daftykins> oh? proof's in the pudding
[14:21] <mrgoodcat> my /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/hud/hud-service is pegging out my cpu at 97%. anybody have any idea what this is or what i can do about it?
[14:21] <kstenger> Linux is installed into an encrypted partition. Any idea on why this could be happening or what could I do for grub to realize about both OSs (or even only the linux one)
[14:21] <kstenger> sorry
[14:21] <nvidia> I have a nvidia gfx card.. should I install nvidia-prime?
[14:21] <RPR> MonkeyDust, Yes limited number of keys.  But Ubuntu didn't hijack "a" key.  They hijacked an entire Meta key of which there are far, far fewer, like what 3-4.   Anyway, it makes no sense.
[14:23] <adminewb> kstenger, could grub be missing a module that tells it about your partitioning scheme?
[14:23] <mrgoodcat> its also using more than 1GB of RAM
[14:23] <adminewb> or encryption, for that matter
[14:23] <kstenger> adminewb: I don't think so, since it was already working before the usb stick got broken, but how can I check?
[14:24] <adminewb> kstenger in what way is your usb stick broken
[14:25] <Corey84> nvidia-prime IIRC is for multi-cards
[14:25] <trijntje> RPR: like I said, you can control this behaviour with compizconfig settings manager
[14:25] <wheatthin> hmm when i change the background image in gnome-shell and try to switch to a different desktop window it shows the previous background image instead
[14:25] <wheatthin> then I select the desktop number, and it goes to normal
[14:25] <trijntje> mrgoodcat: file a bug, kill the process
[14:26] <kstenger> adminewb: there was an update wich entered a loop state, didn't allow to cancel or anything, it was complaining about how grub was installed and it was not compatible with newer versions anymore (something about the MBR I think) (sorry to not be more precise at this point)
[14:26] <kstenger> adminewb: after this update grub didn't work anymore
[14:26] <MonkeyDust> RPR  or create a custom distro without hijacked key combination
[14:27] <adminewb> kstenger, so your usb drive has multiple MBR style partitions on it? or did
[14:27] <brasileiro> daftykins, gonna try nvidia-prime
[14:27] <brasileiro> daftykins, thanks for the help =)
[14:27] <RPR> trijntje, Already did my 40 yrs of wandering in the desert of compizconfig looking for it to no avail.  However, it turns out under "Settings" "Keyboard" (now that was obvious) "Launchers"  I found it.
[14:28] <trijntje> RPR: its in the unity plugin
[14:28] <nvidia> should you install nvidia-prime if you have a nvidia card?
[14:29] <kstenger> adminewb: I don't know, I didn't do the original install, and this took me by surprise, I did a backup, but I don;t know how useful it could be
[14:29] <kstenger> adminewb: it should only have a single boot option for the linux OS I think (don;t know if this helps)
[14:30] <RPR> MonkeyDust, not a serious answer.  I'm suggesting the Unity Hud should use ONE key to pop it up.  Does that make sense to you?  Instead of hijacking 33% or 25% of ALL key combos to pop it up ... Just use ONE.  Say Alt-H.  Why does that not seem reasonable?
[14:30] <MonkeyDust> RPR  great idea! contact the appropriate people for it, on ubuntu.com
[14:30] <kstenger> where can I read about it adminewb?
[14:31] <trijntje> RPR: the HUD only triggers when you TAP the alt key, not when you keep it pressed, like you would do for shortcuts in most programs
[14:31] <adminewb> kstenger: well it sounds as though this isn't a related issue for you, but my grub.cfg has "insmod" module load commands for such items as "part_gpt" so it can read partition tables on a gpt disk, say
[14:32] <adminewb> kstenger, there'd also be special modules associated with encrypted partition, I expect
[14:32] <adminewb> grub docs are spread here and there, I'd have to google it
[14:33] <kstenger> adminewb: thanks for the hints. I'm just wondering why if the liveCD detects the encrypted partitions and all, let's you mount them etc, then the grub-install tool won't find them. but i'll google about it, thanks!
[14:34] <adminewb> sure
[14:35] <RPR> trijntje, It should be the opposite.  i.e Assume the user knows how to type.  It should be a long hold (>1 sec) to pop the hub.  I use all 10 keys to type.  Ubuntu interprets my typing speed as a tap.
[14:35] <Corey84> kstenger, the issue with crypto drive
[14:35] <kstenger> adminewb: the modules you are talking about are of grub or kernel-wide?
[14:36] <kstenger> Corey84: yes?
[14:36] <Corey84> kstenger, mounting and installing grub to crypted drive?
[14:36] <adminewb> kstenger, those are grub modules I'm referring to not linux
[14:36] <trijntje> RPR: I dont understand what you are saying. I never use the alt key except to open the HUD, what do you use it for, and in which programs?
[14:36] <kstenger> Corey84: no, the encrypted drive is in my harddrive, the usb stick is not encrypted
[14:36] <Corey84> if so are you using ecryptfs or cryptsetup
[14:36] <kstenger> the usb stick holds /boot, the HD holds / etc.
[14:36] <Corey84> but you are putting grub where
[14:37] <Corey84> /boot CANT bee crypted on ubuntu
[14:37] <RPR> trijntje, almost every program I know of has Alt key shortcuts.  Which ones do you use which don't leverage the Alt key?
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> RPR  apparentally, nobody uses the keyboard the way you do
[14:37] <kstenger> grub goes on /boot, on the stock, it's not encrypted
[14:37] <kstenger> stick
[14:37] <Corey84> the kernels lack the crypt read ahead modules
[14:38] <ice9> how to upgrade to 14.04.1 from 14.04
[14:38] <Corey84> grub to usb /boot only holds the boot info
[14:38] <trijntje> RPR: can you give some examples? What kind of things can you do with the alt key that you cant do with the HUD?
[14:38] <kstenger> Corey84: yes, that's what i'm trying to recover
[14:38] <trijntje> ice9: thats automatic
[14:38] <RPR> Firefox, Chrome, Emacs, LibreXXX ...
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> ice9: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist0upgrade
[14:38] <Corey84> ice9, you dont ---doid you mean 12.04 > 14.04 perhaps
[14:38] <Beldar> ice9, it is done automatically with standard updates.
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> ice9: its just a point release, they use the same repos. Its not a new ubuntu release
[14:39] <Corey84> nvm missed the .1 part
[14:39] <ice9> but it won't show 14.04.1 in lsb_release -a?
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> ice9: why does it matter what that says?
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> ice9: as long as you are fully updated from the Trusty repos, you are fine
[14:40] <Corey84> again its a point release lsb_release -a is for major releases IIRC
[14:40] <ice9> thanks all
[14:40] <ice9> got it
[14:40] <trijntje> RPR: so what shortcut do you want to use in firefox that you cant use now? I've seriously never heard anyone with this problem before
[14:41] <Corey84> so you lost /boot on the usb ? and the hd is encrypted? kstenger
[14:41] <kstenger> Corey84: yes
[14:41] <Pici> Uh... you will see 14.04.1 in lsb_release -a...
[14:42] <RPR> trijntje, Have you ever tried to use the Alt key within any program / application?  Anyway just google "Unity Alt key disable"  and hear the voices.
[14:42] <trijntje> RPR: no I haven't, thats why I am asking you to be explicit about what you are trying to do
[14:42] <Corey84> mount the crypt (via live installer) as WELL as usb that will hold /boot and run a chrooted grub-install /dev/sdX (the usb) and then grub-install --recheck /dev/sdX (the  usb again ) and then update-grub
[14:43] <Corey84> to mount it you need to unlock it tho
[14:43] <kstenger> adminewb: Corey84: is this an option i should add to my grub-install command? --modules=dm-crypt
[14:43] <Corey84> no need if on 13.04+ its in the kernel already
[14:44] <adminewb> kstenger, my knowledge of grub-install options is too superficial
[14:44] <Corey84> hang tight ill give a cmd by cmd pastie
[14:44] <kstenger> Corey84: I did just as you said above, and the only detected OS is windows :(
[14:44] <iaam> Hi there all now i am getting a unable to load session when trying to log into ubuntu (14.04)
[14:45] <thegoat> is there a way to bind nfs to a certain IP?
[14:46] <kstenger> Corey84:  I did   grub-install --recheck --boot-directory=/mnt/boot/ /dev/sdc    then   update-grub
[14:46] <kstenger> Corey84: I also tried  with --root-directory=/mnt instead
[14:46] <kstenger> both same result
[14:46] <WolfGeek> I have a very strange problem across multiple 14.04LTS servers.  SSH via public key is failing with Permission Denied.  The auth.log shows that sshd can't open the authorized_keys files.  Permissions and ownership is absolutely correct.  Here's the kicker.  As soon as I do an 'ls -l' on the file or a 'stat' on the file, it starts working right away.  It keeps working for some length of time (haven't measured it exactly yet) and then st
[14:46] <Corey84> is it lvm by chance
[14:46] <WolfGeek> any clues?
[14:47] <kstenger> Corey84: I think so, yes
[14:47] <trijntje> WolfGeek: your message was too long and got truncated. please split it up
[14:47] <Corey84> you never mounted /dev then hang on pastie on the way
[14:47] <kstenger> yes, i did mount it on /mnt/boot
[14:47] <ice9> how do I reset Ubuntu's repositories?
[14:48] <trijntje> ice9: do you mean remove PPA's you added?
[14:48] <trijntje> !ppapurge
[14:48] <kstenger> Corey84: I also tried re-creating my whole directory structure into mnt and chrooting into it
[14:48] <WolfGeek> I have a very strange problem across multiple 14.04LTS servers.
[14:49] <WolfGeek> SSH via public key is failing with Permission Denied.
[14:49] <ice9> trijntje: remove every thing and set the original repos that are defined in fresh intallation
[14:49] <WolfGeek> The auth.log shows that sshd can't open the authorized_keys files.
[14:49] <trijntje> WolfGeek: wo got till "measured it exactly yet) and then st"
[14:49] <WolfGeek> Permissions and ownership is absolutely correct.
[14:49] <Corey84> kstenger,  try this and report any errors http://pastie.org/9420314
[14:49] <Corey84> openssh-server installed?
[14:49] <WolfGeek> Here's the kicker.  As soon as I do an 'ls -l' on the file or a 'stat' on the file, it starts working right away.
[14:49] <Corey84> WolfGeek, ^^
[14:49] <WolfGeek> It keeps working for some length of time (haven't measured it exactly yet) and then stops again with the same problem.
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> WolfGeek: do you have read access to ~/.ssh on the server ?
[14:49] <WolfGeek> sorry
[14:49] <WolfGeek> yes,
[14:50] <trijntje> ice9: that depends, if you only added ppa's you can remove them all using ppapurge. If you did something else there is no easy way to fix it as far as I know
[14:50] <Beldar> ice9, run this command given to you earlier than check again, sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> WolfGeek: have you used:    ssh -v user@server
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> WolfGeek: is the ssh server running on the server? it's not installed by default
[14:51] <kstenger> Corey84: cp /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/etc/resolv.conf  <--- this is something I never did, trying now
[14:52] <kstenger> Corey84: the /mnt/mapper ... devices where already mounted by the liveCD, do you think i need to remount them as you do in the pastie?
[14:52] <WolfGeek> yes, I've done ssh -v, ssh is running, openssh is installed.  Let me say again, as soon as I do an 'ls' on the authorized_keys file, I can ssh in using my key successfully.  ssh is working....
[14:54] <WolfGeek> basically ssh is getting a permission denied on the file UNTIL I force the OS to stat the file.  Then it works fine.  Very strange problem.
[14:55] <jhutchins> What init system does 12.04 use?
[14:55] <jhutchins> Is that upstart or systemd?
[14:55] <ljunggren> ge
[14:56] <ljunggren> jaeg
[14:57] <WolfGeek> Anyone?  I've been fighting this for 2 days now.  I could really use some help....
[14:58] <jhutchins> WolfGeek: Anything unusual about the filesystem?  Straight ext3/4 or LVM or what?
[14:59] <stan_man_can> The name of my database changed so I’m trying to do a bulk update in all my websites. I’ve tried “find /var/www/hosting/www -type f -exec sed - ‘/s/mysql_select_db\(\”table1\”\)/mysql_select_db\(\”table2\”\)/g’ {} \; and it’s nt working, no errors
[14:59] <WolfGeek> jhutchins: straight ext4
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> WolfGeek: i'd delete ~/.ssh on the server then scp a fresh copy over and start from scratch
[15:00] <WolfGeek> ActionParsnip:  I'll try that.  It's doing the same thing for multiple users.  However their  ~/.ssh was setup by puppet, so maybe something strange there.  Although I never had this problem with 12.04LTS
[15:02] <Corey84> kstenger, i was afk sorry
[15:02] <Corey84> first part is so you have  a dns resolver file
[15:02] <Corey84> the live usb shouldnt have mounted crypted drive parts
[15:03] <Corey84> unless possibly it was merely lvm'ed not encrypted as you thought
[15:03] <Corey84> a lsblk paste once n=mounted work help
[15:04] <kstenger> Corey84: np, I think this actually doesn't differ from what I've done before, except for mounting the partitions by hand instead of relying on the ubuntu liveCD (which does it wonderfully) and copying the resolv.conf file
[15:04] <Corey84> for crypto the installer blows tbh
[15:04] <kstenger> Corey84: but since I'm inside the shell over the actual root partition, the cp is meaningless
[15:04] <kstenger> tbh?
[15:05] <Corey84> try apt update without it and tell me its meaningless
[15:05] <Corey84> youll get dns not found errors out your tail end
[15:05] <Corey84> tbh = to be honest
[15:05] <SchrodingersScat> 0sRLGFJTDpjM5/vMM9qvH/
[15:06] <kstenger> i mean the file is the same, because / is the same partition as /mnt :)
[15:06] <kstenger> the live cd allowed me into a shell over the sda root partition
[15:06] <Corey84> its still only in memory unless you have fully booted it at least once already
[15:07] <kstenger> ok, but how will the cp change anything if the partition is just mounted twice, once in / and another in /mnt
[15:08] <Corey84> do you see ONLY ubuntu ~#/  at the shell  and does running ls from right there give you the default bin etc dev folders ? if not the sheell is merely an illusion
[15:08] <k9-> can someone help em to crack a Wordpress hash?
[15:08] <Corey84> the install in in /mnt (which presently has no resolv.conf) until first run is activated
[15:08] <k9-> can someone help em to crack a Wordpress hash?
[15:09] <cfhowlett> k9- we don't do cracking here.
[15:09] <Corey84> ^^
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> k9-  how legal is that?
[15:09] <k9-> Not legal
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> k9-  ask in the NSA channel, they have specialists
[15:09] <cfhowlett> k9- then absolutely unsupported in this channel.
[15:09] <Corey84> try #blackterminal or #pentesting  if you must but its OFFTOPIC here
[15:10] <MoonSlime> just a quick question = (14.04/Laptop) under 'Details' it states Graphics Intel Sandybridge Mobile, and under 'Additional Drivers' Whistler HD 6730M Using X.Org X server? am i using the ATI card?
[15:10] <k9-> MonkeyDust, channel is unavailable?
[15:10] <Corey84> MoonSlime, use inxi -Gxx to get that info for sure install inxi if need be
[15:11] <MoonSlime> thanks Corey84
[15:11] <Corey84> i.e.
[15:11] <MonkeyDust> k9-  then you're out of luck! don't ask again here
[15:11] <Corey84> Graphics:  Card Intel Mobile 4 Series Integrated Graphics Controller bus-ID 00:02.0 chip-ID 8086:2a42
[15:11] <Corey84>            Display Server X.Org 1.15.1 drivers intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution 1280x800@60.0hz
[15:11] <Corey84>            GLX Renderer Mesa DRI Mobile Intel GM45 Express
[15:11] <Corey84>            GLX Version 2.1 Mesa 10.1.3 Direct Rendering Yes
[15:11] <DarkAceXtreme> how do I find my monitor device name?
[15:11] <Corey84> MoonSlime,  that was /exec -o inxi -Gxx in hexchat to display here btw
[15:12] <Corey84> lspci or lsusb should give it
[15:12] <Corey84> or also lshw or hardinfo (needs installed first tho)
[15:12] <MoonSlime> learn something new every day here thanks again Corey84
[15:12] <Corey84> np
[15:13] <Corey84> being in 166 channels has its benies lol
[15:13] <MoonSlime> im in 2
[15:14] <Corey84> 7 servers and 166 here lol used to be much more
[15:16] <kstenger> Corey84: I'll be back in an hour or so will be afk in the meantime, I'm sure testing step by step your guide, if you are still here i'll report back to you, thank you so much for your time
[15:16] <MoonSlime> 22:16:55 libtorsocks(4627): WARNING: The symbol res_query() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!
[15:16] <MoonSlime>   Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_query() with the reported error: Not Found
[15:17] <MoonSlime> 22:16:55 libtorsocks(4627): WARNING: The symbol res_search() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!
[15:17] <MoonSlime>   Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_search() with the reported error: Not Found
[15:17] <MoonSlime> 22:16:55 libtorsocks(4627): WARNING: The symbol res_send() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!
[15:17] <MoonSlime>   Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_send() with the reported error: Not Found
[15:17] <MoonSlime> 22:16:55 libtorsocks(4627): WARNING: The symbol res_querydomain() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!
[15:17] <MoonSlime>   Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_querydomain() with the reported error: Not Found
[15:17] <MoonSlime> 22:16:55 libtorsocks(4628): WARNING: The symbol res_query() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!
[15:17] <MoonSlime>   Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_query() with the reported error: Not Found
[15:17] <MoonSlime> 22:16:55 libtorsocks(4628): WARNING: The symbol res_search() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!
[15:17] <MoonSlime>   Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_search() with the reported error: Not Found
[15:17] <MoonSlime> 22:16:55 libtorsocks(4628): WARNING: The symbol res_send() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!
[15:17] <MoonSlime>   Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_send() with the reported error: Not Found
[15:17] <MoonSlime> 22:16:55 libtorsocks(4628): WARNING: The symbol res_querydomain() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> !paste | MoonSlime
[15:17] <MoonSlime>   Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_querydomain() with the reported error: Not Found
[15:17] <Church> MoonSlime: for long pastes use some web pastebin
[15:17] <MoonSlime> 22:16:55 libtorsocks(4628): WARNING: The symbol res_query() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!
[15:17] <MoonSlime>   Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_query() with the reported error: Not Found
[15:17] <MoonSlime> 22:16:55 libtorsocks(4628): WARNING: The symbol res_search() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!
[15:17] <stan_man_can> lol
[15:17] <MoonSlime>   Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_search() with the reported error: Not Found
[15:17] <MoonSlime> 22:16:55 libtorsocks(4628): WARNING: The symbol res_send() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!
[15:17] <MoonSlime>   Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_send() with the reported error: Not Found
[15:18] <MoonSlime> 22:16:55 libtorsocks(4628): WARNING: The symbol res_querydomain() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!
[15:18] <MoonSlime>   Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_querydomain() with the reported error: Not Found
[15:18] <MoonSlime> 22:16:55 libtorsocks(4629): WARNING: The symbol res_query() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!
[15:18] <MoonSlime>   Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_query() with the reported error: Not Found
[15:18] <Busserl> thank you MoonSlime
[15:18] <MoonSlime> 22:16:55 libtorsocks(4629): WARNING: The symbol res_search() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!
[15:18] <MoonSlime>   Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_search() with the reported error: Not Found
[15:18] <MoonSlime> 22:16:55 libtorsocks(4629): WARNING: The symbol res_send() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!
[15:18] <MoonSlime>   Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_send() with the reported error: Not Found
[15:18] <MoonSlime> 22:16:55 libtorsocks(4629): WARNING: The symbol res_querydomain() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> !ops
[15:18] <MoonSlime>   Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_querydomain() with the reported error: Not Found
[15:18] <MoonSlime> 22:16:55 libtorsocks(4630): WARNING: The symbol res_query() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!
[15:18] <MoonSlime>   Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_query() with the reported error: Not Found
[15:18] <MoonSlime> 22:16:55 libtorsocks(4630): WARNING: The symbol res_search() was not found in any shared library with the reported error: Not Found!
[15:18] <MoonSlime>   Also, we failed to find the symbol __res_search() with the reported error: Not Found
[15:20] <Corey84> wish more channels had that in a bot command
[15:20] <phunyguy> our paste bot is broken it seems
[15:21] <phunyguy> (I am not a bot)
[15:21] <phunyguy> or did you mean the ops trigger?
[15:21] <Corey84> im meant ubottu lol
[15:21] <phunyguy> ahh.  carry on then. :)
[15:23] <Urchin> is it possible to go from 12.04 to 14.04 directly?
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> Urchin: yes
[15:23] <phunyguy> Urchin: sudo do-release-upgrade
[15:23] <phunyguy> (do you still need the -d option?)
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> Urchin: LTS to LTS upgrades are supported
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> phunyguy: -d is the (d)ev release, which is utopic (Ubuntu 12.10)
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> oops 14.10
[15:24] <Urchin> but I can't find the option to do so
[15:24] <phunyguy> ActionParsnip: yes that wasn't true for 12.04 though.  The dev release for 12.04 is 14.04 until 14.04.1 which was released this week.
[15:24] <phunyguy> the upgrade path to 14.04 was considered "dev" until then
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> phunyguy: until it goes to the first point release, the -d option is needed. When it went to 14.04.1 it will be offered
[15:24] <cfhowlett> Urchin upgrade manager settings : Long Term Support release
[15:25] <phunyguy> ActionParsnip: exactly.
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> phunyguy: and its 14.04.1 now, so -d isnt needed
[15:25] <phunyguy> that was what I asked.
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> phunyguy: ahh i see, wel....answer :)
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> answered
[15:26] <TJ-> phunyguy: ActionParsnip: The default 12.04 > 14.04.1 release upgrade isn't yet available... not until Trusty is added to http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts
[15:26] <phunyguy> And there we go.
[15:26] <phunyguy> Thanks TJ-
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> oh, my mistake
[15:26] <phunyguy> so you still need the -d option for do-release-upgrade to get to 14.04
[15:26] <Urchin> it's already set to upgrade to LTS
[15:26] <TJ-> phunyguy: It *is* available in proposed though, as per http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts-proposed
[15:26] <Urchin> but I can't find the upgrade to the next lts
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> TJ-: tbh, I always clean install. Upgrades can be so messy
[15:27] <TJ-> phunyguy: No, you want --proposed if you can't wait :)
[15:27] <cfhowlett> TJ- agreed - clean install has been way less painful
[15:27] <phunyguy> TJ-: pretty sure -p option uses the proposed version of the updater, not the dev release
[15:28] <phunyguy> TJ-: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man8/do-release-upgrade.8.html  -> -d, --devel-release - Check if upgrading to the latest devel release is possible
[15:29] <TJ-> Upgrades depend on the complexity of the configuration. May be OK for simpler configurations but if you've got a lot of customisation the Debian installer scripts have been written to take care of those - that's why Ubuntu focuses on LTS > LTS upgrade support only (besides release A > B), otherwise we'd need scripts for every combination.
[15:29] <TJ-> phunyguy: Yes... and the devel release currently is Utopic
[15:29] <phunyguy> TJ-: that half-true
[15:29] <phunyguy> TJ-: the dev release as far as 12.04 is concerned, is 14.04
[15:30] <TJ-> phunyguy: The --devel release meta is at http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-development
[15:30] <suriya> Hi
[15:31] <TJ-> phunyguy: I was reading the source code earlier in UpdateManager.MetaReleaseCore to figure all this out, since we're getting a *lot* of questions about it since Adam Conrad published the announcement in the early hours
[15:32] <phunyguy> TJ-: oh yeah?  I actually tested the scenarios.
[15:32] <bullicon> how can you tell if a distro has been patched?
[15:32] <phunyguy> sat down with ikonia and did it.
[15:32] <bullicon> if ubuntu has been patched
[15:33] <bullicon> or its a fresh install
[15:33] <phunyguy> bullicon: load the update manager and see what is pending...
[15:33] <bullicon> its a server
[15:35] <phunyguy> bullicon: so run `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -s"
[15:35] <Urchin> how much trouble should I expect with the update if the current install is so large that I don't even know what I have any more
[15:35] <phunyguy> to see what is missing
[15:35] <bullicon> phunyguy ta
[15:35] <phunyguy> Urchin: backup your important stuff.... then run the upgrade.  If it fails, install fresh and restore your backups.
[15:37] <Urchin> btw, last time I did this, I had stuff falling apart during upgrade, are there any special caveats about X or window managers?
[15:38] <phunyguy> Urchin: I wish I could be more help.... you will just have to try and see.  Just make sure your backups are solid.
[15:38] <Urchin> ok
[15:40] <Urchin> I've tried do-release-upgrade sandbox and found that it complained about the filesystem (I'm running XFS), is it still supported as usual?
[15:40] <phunyguy> TJ-: it turns out we were both right http://paste.ubuntu.com/7856744/
[15:41] <phunyguy> that is on a 12.04 box
[15:41] <daftykins> it'll work straight off soon though, right?
[15:41] <daftykins> and start appearing in MOTDs?
[15:41] <ragabash> ?
[15:42] <phunyguy> TJ-: in this scenario, the updater is in "proposed" state, which points to the new release.  When 14.04 was first released, this was not the case, and the -d option was required.
[15:42] <phunyguy> TJ-: so maybe you were more correct, as perhaps the -p option uses a newer version of the updater... but I am not sure there.
[15:43] <phunyguy> daftykins: yes very soon.
[15:43] <ragabash> o que é exatamente este programa?
[15:44] <daftykins> but we should still tell people not to run it with -d, right?
[15:44] <phunyguy> !es | ragabash
[15:44] <phunyguy> daftykins: I think they both accomplish the same thing
[15:44] <Urchin> wait, did point release for 14.04 come or not?
[15:44] <phunyguy> Urchin: yes.
[15:44] <daftykins> phunyguy: would there not come a time where someone running with -d on 12.04 would take them to 14.10?
[15:44] <TJ-> phunyguy: I'm going by the code on a 12.04 server... they start off with the base URLs for normal and LTS, and then add on "-proposed" or "-development" suffixes in order to fetch the currently valid lists, then those are filters by "Date:" field so only valid entries have dates > than current_date
[15:44] <phunyguy> Urchin: I think the next round of updates should make 14.04 the stable upgrade path.
[15:45] <phunyguy> daftykins: no as the next step would be 14.04 regardless
[15:45] <pa> how bad is it to symlink /etc/sudoers ?
[15:45] <daftykins> phunyguy: sounds like i need to stop telling people off for advising to run with -d then :O
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> pa  to where?
[15:46] <pa> to somewhere else where there's a custom sudoers file
[15:46] <phunyguy> daftykins: it is a very weird subject
[15:47] <cdmsn> I do some operations in a bash script with sudo and it works fine.. the next minute I get: sudo: unknown user: vagrant sudo: unable to initialize policy plugin. Any thoughts on this?
[15:47] <phunyguy> daftykins: These things are commonly confused... but there are specific supported upgrade paths.  The only time it would skip releases, is if an intermediate release was no longer supported.  For example, when 12.10 was still supported and 13.04 wasn't... you went directly from 12.10 to 13.10... but before that you would need 13.04 first.
[15:48] <ljunggren> Hi, is there a known bug of the installer? I have had all previous versions of Ubuntu installed fine but this 14.04 just hangs at first step after pressing "next" when there is checks for internet connection etc . Can someone help me?
[15:48] <phunyguy> daftykins: with that being said, there would be no "dev" release as far as 12.04 is concerned.... it would /only/ care about 14.04
[15:49] <daftykins> phunyguy: ah ok, thanks for the info :)
[15:49] <phunyguy> ikonia and I sat down in -ops and hashed this out when 14.04 was released.
[15:50] <daftykins> i figured things are pretty different once 14.04.1 is out
[15:50] <phunyguy> but now you peaked my interest.  I am going to set up a test VM with 12.04.4, and when 14.04 upgrade path becomes stable, I will test these theories.
[15:50] <phunyguy> but I am 99.9999% sure that it will still want 14.04 first.
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> ljunggren: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[15:51] <ljunggren> Yeah it's right
[15:51] <TJ-> phunyguy: the output you showed could display a bug :) The UpdateManager.MetaReleaseCore.__init() by default sets the suffixes for Proposed and Development to "-development", then reads the config file "/etc/update-manager/meta-release" to override those, which *should*  correct the "-proposed" entry
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> ljunggren: are you using USB or CD?
[15:51] <ljunggren> It works now after letting it sit 35 minutes . Too long lol. It's USB . ActionParsnip
[15:52] <phunyguy> TJ-: hmm? so which one is incorrect?
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> ljunggren: weird, could try without web access. I always do. Get the OS installed then update
[15:52] <ljunggren> Ive tried several times and waited 15 minutes - 20 minutes each time
[15:52] <ljunggren> Yeah thanks anyway! Have a good day
[15:52] <Urchin> phunyguy: when's the upgrade path due to become stable?
[15:52] <phunyguy> Urchin: I don't have specifics.
[15:53] <cfhowlett> Urchin you can torrent the ISO and set it as the software source then upgrade from there
[15:53] <phunyguy> cfhowlett: or use the updater with the -p or -d option...
[15:54] <TJ-> phunyguy: It's damned confusing. If you're going to do a test, copy the current meta-release* files from the server and host them on your own HTTP server, and customise the test VM "/etc/update-manager/meta-release" to point to them... otherwise the Ubuntu files might change whilst you are testing :)
[15:55] <Urchin> cfhowlett: that's not what I want, and besides, it would lack all the software I have
[15:55] <fALSO> Where can I get support about Ubuntu's g++/linker ?
[15:55] <fALSO> In the latest Ubuntu version... it seems that to link against some lib
[15:55] <fALSO> you need to put it at the end of the g++ command line
[15:55] <paulo_> what is the latest trusty kernel?
[15:55] <fALSO> this is very WEIRD
[15:56] <Urchin> fALSO: are you a beginner?
[15:56] <fALSO> nop
[15:56] <fALSO> I know what I am doing...
[15:56] <fALSO> Just tried the same with debian and works correctly
[15:56] <fALSO> if you do for examploe
[15:56] <fALSO> g++ -lcrypt bleh.c -o bleh
[15:56] <TJ-> fALSO: Could you please combine your comments into single lines rather than hitting Enter after each sub-sentence, thank you :)
[15:56] <fALSO> it givens undefined symbols to 'crypt'
[15:56] <fALSO> if you do
[15:56] <fALSO> g++ bleh.c -o bleh -lcrypt
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> fALSO  don't abuse the enter key, it has rights too
[15:57] <fALSO> it builds... but the binary isnt OK
[15:57] <fALSO> OK... SORRY
[15:57] <TJ-> fALSO: GNU gcc g++ changed the ordering of libraries ages ago - the library list should come *after* the compilation unit
[15:57] <fALSO> what do you mean by AGES ago ?
[15:57] <Urchin> fALSO: they may have started actually using standards, libs go at the end (at least they did in C)
[15:57] <fALSO> just tried it on the LATEST debian and it still works
[15:57] <walkerpp> Hi all. I had two partition one was windows and another ubuntu. I reinstalled windows and it has overwritten ubuntu's bootloader. How do I make in recognise the Ubuntu partition again? Thank you
[15:58] <fALSO> gcc version 4.7.2 (Debian 4.7.2-5)
[15:58] <fALSO> 16:48 <@fALSO> no debian ainda nao foderam o gcc pelos vistos
[15:58] <xangua> !grub | walkerpp
[15:58] <cfhowlett> walkerpp you need to reinstall grub2
[15:58] <Urchin> fALSO: latest debian will be older
[15:58] <fALSO> Ok... but that change BREAKS "A TON" of packages
[15:58] <fALSO> and also putting it at the end is linking but the binary isnt OK
[15:58] <TJ-> fALSO: see "-l library" of https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Link-Options.html#Link-Options
[15:59] <walkerpp> cfhowlett: is grub2 dependable?
[15:59] <TJ-> fALSO: show us a pastebin of the output that is incorrect
[15:59] <phunyguy> TJ-: I don't want to mess with those files.  I want to test what the user sees.
[15:59] <Urchin> fALSO: putting it at the end is the standard, gcc allowing them to be put at the beginning was a mistake, if you fell for it, tough
[15:59] <walkerpp> walkerpp: I am using ubuntu 14.04 though
[16:00] <fALSO> Me and probably a TON of open source packages
[16:00] <fALSO> That wont build now...
[16:00] <cfhowlett> walkerpp and 14.04 uses grub2.  reinstall
[16:00] <TJ-> phunyguy: My point is, if you do multiple tests, and the Ubuntu server meta-release-lts is updated on the live server, you may see different results on different test runs and not realise the test is based on different inputs
[16:01] <walkerpp> cfhowlett: aha, so I should make a ubuntu14.04 live usb and do a boot repair?
[16:01] <phunyguy> TJ-: I was talking more just a general test on what happens when the upgrade path to 14.04 goes stable, and you still pass the -d option.
[16:01] <cfhowlett> walkerpp exactomundo
[16:02] <TJ-> phunyguy: Ahhh, I thought you meant whilst we're in limbo ... since this is an edge-case the update-manager devs don't seem to have covered, and could lead to unexpected results/tears
[16:02] <phunyguy> TJ-: well that is why it is the dev version.  It's not ready until it's ready. :)
[16:02] <walkerpp> cfhowlett: I wish there was some way I can get it running without downloading ubuntu again
[16:04] <cfhowlett> walkerpp USB's are cheap.  one should always have a live ubuntu USB within reach.
[16:04] <TJ-> phunyguy: I think when the upgrader is only considering LTS releases, it also checks the "Supported:" field. If that is false (0) it'll ignore the release, which explains your "-d" output... Utopic is in the -development list but has "Supported: 0"
[16:05] <walkerpp> cfhowlett: going to use this for time being http://www.ubuntugeek.com/use-the-windows-bootloader-to-dual-boot-windows-vista-and-ubuntu.html
[16:05] <walkerpp> hope this works
[16:05] <phunyguy> TJ-: I think it does that regardless of LTS
[16:05] <Urchin> fALSO: bottom line is, it's unintuitive but correct behavior, fix your packages
[16:06] <fALSO> i changed the linking to the end... but the package doesnt work correctly after it
[16:06] <phunyguy> TJ-: afaict it looks for supported: 1 on any release, and will go to the next supported version... not the latest supported.
[16:06] <fALSO> it seems that there is also a problem with -lcrypt on Ubuntu
[16:06] <phunyguy> if there is no more with 1, it does to the next dev version.  So in either case, it will still go to 14.04 fierst.
[16:06] <phunyguy> first*
[16:07] <Urchin> fALSO: that's Ubuntu 14.04, right?
[16:07] <fALSO> yes urchin
[16:08] <phunyguy> TJ-: when 14.10 becomes stable, the upgrade path from 12.04 to 14.01 would still be 12.04 -> 14.04 -> 14.10 if you so choose.
[16:08] <phunyguy> 14.10***
[16:09] <phunyguy> adding the -d option beforehand will not change that 14.04 intermediate step.
[16:12] <TJ-> phunyguy: MetaReleaseCore.parse() reads all the possible releases into 'dists' then locates itself in that list as 'current_dist', then it looks for the first release with a date > 'current_dist.date'. So, yes, 12.04's first >date will always be Trusty
[16:13] <TJ-> phunyguy: I missed the 'break' on >date in the loop that tests the dates which, if missing, would take it on to the last entry in the meta-release* file
[16:14] <phunyguy> TJ-: I ran another small test.  Interestingly enough, if you are prompting to install any version instead of LTS.... it wants to go to 12.10.  Even adding the -d or -p option does that
[16:15] <brasileiro> hi, if anyone can help me, I'm having a lag problem on my Ubuntu 14.04 that seems a lot like the problem described here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1439861 I'm the author of the second post..
[16:15] <TJ-> phunyguy: that makes sense based on http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-{development,proposed}
[16:16] <phunyguy> TJ-: so adding the -d option after 14.04 path becomes stable... is harmless.
[16:16] <phunyguy> daftykins: ^
[16:16] <walterpp> will this work for me http://sourceforge.net/projects/boot-repair-cd/files/ ?
[16:16] <walterpp> repairing the grub2
[16:16] <TJ-> phunyguy: Could be argued to be a bug in the code though since it certainly isn't the user's intention :)
[16:16] <phunyguy> TJ-: well if the user has it set to "any" release and hasn't upgraded yet.... they have bigger issues anyway ;)
[16:16] <cfhowlett> walterpp it's on sourceforuge NOT from ubuntu.  do the math.
[16:17] <phunyguy> I just wanted to test that
[16:17] <anonymous___> Hello Everyone
[16:17] <Urchin[emacs]> I'm still mulling over weather I want to do the upgrade via command line or trough gui (and which gui), any suggestions?
[16:17] <TJ-> phunyguy: I assume it is taking some time to get all the mirrors updated before the meta-release-lts files are updated
[16:17] <walterpp> cfhowlett: lol, that doesn't make sense it's here too https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[16:18] <phunyguy> TJ-: I don't think they will be.  If you look, even warty is still in there
[16:18] <pseudo> i need a bridge-start script to run before openvpn on startup - what is the best way to acieve this behavior with ubuntu's init system? /etc/default/openvpn /etc/init.d/openvpn - if i edit these files, will an apt-get upgrade overwrite them. is there a better way to do this?
[16:19] <cfhowlett> Urchin[emacs] same outcome.  do what you're comfortable with
[16:19] <phunyguy> TJ-: once the release is moved to old-releases, which is probably where 12.10 is, that upgrade path is no longer valid. which is why I said, if you have it set to any, and haven't upgraded yet, you will have bigger issues
[16:19] <TJ-> phunyguy: The files always extend, they don't get truncated. Tests may be run from old-releases, for example. But, for the upgrades not to break for *everyone* every mirror will need to ensure it has the 14.04.1 packages and lists
[16:20] <phunyguy> oh yes, that makes sense.
[16:22] <Urchin[emacs]> cfhowlett: last time I did it, I did it in gui, and most of the environment *died* during the upgrade, I want to be sure that screen continues running troughout (if I use screen, or should I use straight xterm, or maybe just one of the virtual terminals)
[16:22] <cfhowlett> Urchin[emacs] running it from CLI will free up your gui for other things
[16:24] <gregmark> Does anybody know where I can find a raring ringtail (13.04) repo that I can mirror? It's disappeared from the official mirrors.
[16:24] <cfhowlett> !archives|gregmark
[16:24] <cfhowlett> !archive
[16:24] <gregmark> cfhowlett: gone!
[16:25] <Magentium> Good Evening, Morning, Night, or Afternoon to everyone from Australia!
[16:25] <gregmark> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[16:25] <gregmark> see for yourself, no raring
[16:25] <cfhowlett> gregmark it'll be in the oldreleases.ubuntu.com archives (or something similar) though why you'd want a no longer supported version ...
[16:25] <Urchin[emacs]> cfhowlett: I don't expect things working well in gui from the experience of upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04
[16:25] <phunyguy> !oldreleases
[16:25] <TJ-> gregmark: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[16:25] <phunyguy> :(
[16:25] <cfhowlett> !cookie|TJ-
[16:25] <gregmark> TJ: thanks
[16:25]  * TJ- plays phunyguy's bot :p
[16:25] <paulo_> what is trusty's current kernel?
[16:25] <compdoc> we dont allow cookies in here
[16:25] <phunyguy> gregmark: you will have to manually edit the repos
[16:26] <compdoc> Linux 3.13.0-32-generic #57-Ubuntu
[16:26] <phunyguy> TJ-: well played :)
[16:26] <gregmark> phunyguy: you mean the sources.list or are you talking about something else?
[16:26] <phunyguy> gregmark: if that is what you are asking about, yes
[16:28] <TJ-> gregmark: something like "sudo sed -i 's,http://.*archive\.ubuntu,http://old-releases.ubuntu,' /etc/apt/sources.list"
[16:28] <Magentium> What are we trying to do?
[16:36] <MRME> hello my laptop have 12 gb ram and 1500gb how do you suggest me partitioning it /
[16:36] <MRME> var
[16:37] <MRME> var
[16:37] <loctauxphilippe> MRME, One partition for Ubuntu!
[16:37] <MRME> /boot/home/tmp/ usrvar /srv /opt   /usr/local
[16:37] <loctauxphilippe> MRME, And noting else!
[16:37] <MRME> how much gb do i give those directories
[16:38] <MRME> btw the laptop contains 2 hd 750 +750
[16:38] <loctauxphilippe> MRME, Just let the Ubuntu installer do his work...
[16:38] <MRME> didn't work well with the 2 hdd
[16:38] <MRME> the other hd stayed ntfs ;)
[16:39] <MRME> so i had to do it manually
[16:39] <MRME> any suggestions ?
[16:39] <daftykins> loctauxphilippe: please don't give bad advice.
[16:39] <OerHeks> MRME, let the ubuntu installer partition the free space, that will do
[16:40] <TJ-> MRME: do you want the disks to be RAID-1 mirrors?
[16:40] <MRME> nop
[16:40] <MRME> i don't really know what does that meen
[16:41] <MRME> i want to use it as a personal laptop and ill use some virtual machines
[16:41] <TJ-> MRME:  it means both disks have identical images, so if one fails the system can continue operations as normal until the failed disk is replaced
[16:41] <MRME> 12 gb ram ? how much do i need to the swap
[16:41] <genoobie> okay, stupid question, I am trying to run minecraft for my kid
[16:41] <MRME> no
[16:41] <genoobie> when I use the Xorg driver, all seems OK, when I use the nVidia driver, cannot init gxl
[16:41] <TJ-> MRME: If the system is intended to hibernate, You'd want at least 12.5GB of swap
[16:42] <MRME> cool
[16:42] <MRME> what about the root directory ? how many gb??
[16:42] <MRME> i have 1500 750+750
[16:42] <genoobie> TJ-, still couldn't figure out why the wireless started working :/
[16:42] <TJ-> MRME: if there is a chance you might upgrade the RAM later, you might want to allocate more to swap now
[16:42] <TJ-> genoobie: As long as it is still working reliably now!
[16:42] <genoobie> yeah, but god forbid I reinstall
[16:42] <MRME> cool ill give it 32
[16:43] <TJ-> genoobie: I did wonder - after you'd gone - if the NIC was stuck in ad-hoc mode rather than managed. That'd explain why scans didn't report anything
[16:43] <TJ-> genoobie: and the boot to 3.0 cleared that state
[16:43] <MRME> what about those /boot/home/tmp/ usrvar /srv /opt   /usr/local  directories how much should i should i assign to them
[16:43] <genoobie> TJ-, perhaps
[16:43] <Guest52705> what a fuck...
[16:44] <genoobie> not sure if that was the fix
[16:44] <genoobie> the drop in enumeration occurred at the same time
[16:44] <TJ-> MRME with that amount of disk space you might be better off doing an LVM install, that way you can expand volumes later if you need to without running into partitioning limits
[16:44] <TJ-> !language | Guest52705
[16:46] <MRME> TJ- do you suggest any tutioral or article for LVM install or do i do my own searches ?
[16:46] <cfhowlett> !lvm
[16:47] <kstenger> Corey84: I'm back sorry for the delay, back to the grub-on-a-stick thing, I just followed your steps. update-grub complains with: /var/lock/lvm: mkdir failed No such file or directory File-based locking initialization failed.    (also i saw the /var/lock directory is empty, maybe I should mount it before chrooting?)
[16:48] <MRME> ubottu thanks
[16:48] <MRME> ubottu i can't believe it haha
[16:48] <Corey84> kstenger, then something in your lvm is messed up
[16:49] <Corey84> or you arent following the (continue mounting rest of LVM) part of paste
[16:49] <TJ-> MRME:  in addition, there is a nice LVM overview at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lvm
[16:49] <kstenger> ah, i might have missed some mountpoint
[16:49] <kstenger> let me check
[16:49] <Corey84> at a minumum you need / /boot /var /usr /dev /proc /sys mounted
[16:50] <MRME> TJ- alright ill go to LVM but as a start or default size to use ?
[16:50] <MRME> TJ- for the directories i mentioned
[16:50] <Corey84> MRME, any other systems onboard the hdd ? also size of hd
[16:51] <MRME> @corey84 2 hdd 750+750 and 12gb ram i don't have any other systems but i have partition which contains the recovery
[16:51] <kstenger> Corey84: /var has contents, but /var/lock has not, is it usual for this directory to be a separate mountpoint?
[16:51] <MRME> corey84 /boot/home/tmp/ usrvar /srv /opt   /usr/local how much do i assign to them
[16:52] <TJ-> MRME: The point of LVM is, it is a container that disk space is allocated to. Whole-disk partitions are allocated to Physical Volumes (PVs). PVs are allocated to Volume Groups (VGs). Within VGs Logical Volumes (LVs) are created to contain the file-systems. LVs can be extended using free 'extents' in the parent VG, new LVs created at will, and snapshots of existing LVs taken very easily.
[16:52] <Corey84> are you spliting the hdds by chance or using 2nd one purely for backups and /home?
[16:53] <Corey84> TJ-, i use LVMs and have a good grasp of them too but that was a bit confusing on first read
[16:54] <Corey84> MRME, my current setup on a 640G http://pastebin.com/JqmHLQGG
[16:55] <MRME> corey84 i don't really know i don't need backups
[16:55] <TJ-> MRME: I have /boot/ = ~512MB,  /tmp/ = 6GB, /usr/local/ = 18GB, /opt/ = 4GB, / = 12GB, /var/ = 6GB ... and /home/ a large amount based on intended usage
[16:55] <MRME> corey84 its a personal computer
[16:55] <Corey84> mine too (a laptop )
[16:55] <MRME> tj- ill do the lvm later on am a newbie
[16:55] <MRME> so ill start with normal partitioning and install
[16:55] <TJ-> MRME: You'd have to reinstall then.
[16:56] <Corey84> ^^
[16:56] <MRME> tj- its ok am doing this to leran
[16:56] <MRME> learn *
[16:56] <Corey84> MRME, see my layout?
[16:56] <TJ-> MRME: OK ... if you just choose "LVM" in the installer when offered the choice, it will do a default LVM install... which you can customise later at will
[16:57] <MRME> corey84 ill do the same or do you suggest me to increase something because i have a larger storage
[16:57] <Corey84> install system-config-lvm once installed tho to make gui control of lvm easier
[16:57] <Corey84> increase /home on yours if anything
[16:57] <MRME> thx a lot guys ill be back in 45 min dinner and the family waiting for me haha
[16:58] <Corey84> mine is also set for dev work
[16:58] <MRME> such a great community
[17:01] <brasileiro> hi, if anyone can help me, I'm having a lag problem on my Ubuntu 14.04 that seems a lot like the problem described here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1439861 I'm the author of the second post..
[17:11] <patarr> hello. I am running nvidia drivers on 14.04 and I can't log in after enabling Xinerama.
[17:11] <patarr> If I dont have xinerama, I set up the other displays as new X screens.
[17:12] <patarr> I log in, and they're black screens but I can put my cursor in them. (The cursor is that class X)
[17:12] <patarr> If I enable xinerama, after i put in my login credentials i just see the ubuntu wallpaper on all screens and get nowhere from there.
[17:13] <TJ-> patarr: Is that using Unity?
[17:13] <patarr> What?
[17:19] <pankaj> hi
[17:20] <pankaj> how to recover loss data from hard disk
[17:20] <Ladon> Is there a method to automatically have all new files owned by Ladon:Ladon w/ a chmod of 666 or 777?
[17:20] <TJ-> patarr: xinerama disables 3D acceleration, which would cause the Unity Desktop Environment to have problems. Also, I had to move to KDE because Unity couldn't handle multi-monitor setups at all well
[17:20] <Ladon> I run into permissions errors with automation constantly. I don't want to have to go into terminal and manually fix it every time.
[17:20] <Ladon> (for, say, /mnt/*)
[17:21] <TJ-> Ladon: The shell can/does set a umask which controls the permissions of newly created files by that user
[17:21] <pankaj> why are my laptop startup very slow
[17:22] <pankaj> please tell me
[17:22] <Ladon> TJ-, would that be in the fstab file? I can't find semi-laymen documentation for how to set up the umask
[17:22] <yeats> !details | pankaj
[17:22] <TJ-> pankaj: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[17:23] <TJ-> Ladon: "man bash" then "/    umask"
[17:24] <pankaj> why are my laptop startup very slow in xubuntu
[17:24] <patarr> TJ-: funny you say that. First thing I did was apt-get kde on one of the tty terminals to see if i can reboot and get in.
[17:24] <Sevith> Is it possible to disable the screen from locking when too much time lapses? It seems like after 15 minutes the screen auto locks even though i thought I had that disabled in the power options and screen saver
[17:25] <legend> Has there been native Flash support for ubuntu like Adobe Flash player for Windows ? Or Adobe Flash player like for Linux which is open source ?
[17:25] <patarr> TJ-: I also saw this. What are your thoughts on this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/184907/cant-login-to-unity-3d-after-enabling-xinerama-for-a-short-moment
[17:25] <legend> *Is there
[17:25] <cfhowlett> !flash | legend
[17:26] <Sevith> Is it possible to disable the screen from locking when too much time lapses? It seems like after 15 minutes the screen auto locks even though i thought I had that disabled in the power options and screen saver
[17:26] <pankaj> please tell me
[17:27] <kdz> hello there, i reinstalled ubuntu but i have permission issues
[17:27] <TJ-> patarr: well, the answer seems to show the same before and after for "Composite" - I assume that is a typo, but it makes sense *if* a custom xorg.conf has been created
[17:27] <kdz> how do i take ownership of folders and files inside folders?
[17:27] <rawrmonster> What is an easy to tell what the resolution of your screen is minus the space that the hud and top bar are taking up?
[17:27] <legend> cfhowlett, Is there any Open Source replacement for Adobe Flash Player which works natively with Linux ?
[17:27] <pankaj> hi
[17:27] <TJ-> patarr: I'm running 3 GPUS > 6 monitors here - Unity can't cope with that config
[17:27] <yeats> kdz: 'sudo chown -R user:user /path/to/folder'
[17:27] <cfhowlett> !gnash | legend
[17:27] <patarr> TJ-: and you got that working on linux? Color me impressed. I'm having nothing but headache.
[17:28] <kdz> yeats thanks
[17:28] <legend> Thank you.
[17:28] <pankaj> please tell me why are my laptop startup very slow
[17:28] <pankaj> in xubuntu
[17:28] <Sevith> idk
[17:28] <Sevith> shitty laptop ?
[17:28] <pankaj> esar
[17:29] <cfhowlett> pankaj define "very slow"
[17:29] <TJ-> patarr: what GPUs do you have (do they all use the same driver) ?
[17:30] <kdz> yeats that worked, how do iautomount my drives?
[17:30] <yeats> !fstab | kdz
[17:30] <pankaj> if open laptop then loading xubuntu very slow
[17:31] <pankaj> please tell me
[17:31] <pankaj> ?
[17:31] <NGC3982> Tell you what?
[17:31] <pankaj> how to resolve issue
[17:31] <kdz> yeats do u know of a gui way to do it?
[17:31] <cfhowlett> HEY pankaj: if you don't answer questions, you probably don't get helped.  What is "very slow"?
[17:32] <pankaj> loading xubuntu time taken
[17:32] <TJ-> pankaj: check the log for indications of disk or other errors. See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxLogFiles#Kernel_Log
[17:32] <Chewy455>  /msg NickServ identify test
[17:33] <Chewy455> oops
[17:33] <Chewy455> Anyway
[17:33] <yeats> kdz: I recommend taking the time to learn the format/syntax of /etc/fstab, but if you want GUI, this might point you to something useful: http://superuser.com/questions/346606/is-there-any-gui-tool-to-configure-etc-fstab
[17:33] <Chewy455> Luckily I didn't put the real password
[17:33] <AcidRain> how would i search all files in a only a given directory, for the text of "$userid"
[17:34] <kdz> yeats where have u been all my life, i had to reinstall ubunt cause of a problem :P
[17:34] <yeats> kdz: happy to help ;-)
[17:34] <TJ-> AcidRain: "grep -n "$userid" /path/to/dir/*"
[17:34] <Chewy455> Anyway, my darlings, I hope I'm not asking too much. I can't pay. But I seriously need help if possible with my ubuntu 14.04LTS in a virtualbox installation and remoting into it
[17:34] <AcidRain> TJ-: thanks you!
[17:35] <Chewy455> It seems there is a bug. Because I'm just getting a gray screen when remoting into it.
[17:35] <yeats> AcidRain: you can also do 'grep -R' which recursively searches all subdirectories too
[17:35] <Chewy455> wait one moment
[17:35] <TJ-> AcidRain: to also search sub-directories, add "-r": "grep -rn "$userid" /path/to/dir/*"
[17:35] <Sevith> Is it possible to disable the screen from locking when too much time lapses? It seems like after 15 minutes the screen auto locks even though i thought I had that disabled in the power options and screen saver
[17:36] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all.  I ran a normal system update and now I can't load graphics drivers.  The first error in the boot sequence appears to be Read Required Files In Advance.  How can I debug and find what file is breaking this?
[17:36] <Sevith> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/24/ebola-virus-disease-facts-west-africa_n_5617585.html
[17:36] <yeats> Chewy455: how are you "remoting in"?
[17:36] <Sevith> ? really?
[17:36] <yeats> !ot | Sevith
[17:36] <AcidRain> TJ-: good god. i got bombarded with the text of all files. how can i ONLY return the filename?
[17:36] <TJ-> AcidRain: "grep -L ..."
[17:37] <Chewy455> Over a notebook using wifi to the router which is my own router separate from the normal network. I tried ultravnc viewer and tight vnc viewer over windows 7 starter
[17:37] <TJ-> AcidRain: "man grep" !
[17:37] <Chewy455> erm I also installed vnc4server
[17:37] <Chewy455> started it
[17:38] <Chewy455> I also allowed port 5900 and port 5901 whichever one it is plus one as I tried the natural defaultubuntu desktop sharing after. As I'm trying to stick as much to terminal as possible
[17:38] <NilBud> Possible to upgrade from 14.04 to 14.04.1 via update manager?
[17:38] <Sevith> How is that an off topic question?
[17:38] <Sevith> I just read a bug report on it
[17:38] <Sevith> I was wondering if it is solved. Or if there i a work around THANKS
[17:38] <cfhowlett> Sevith you huffpo link re: ebola is off-topic
[17:38] <Sevith> !ot | yeats
[17:39] <Sevith> Yeah that was the wrong channel lol...my bad
[17:39] <zivester> does anyone know when 14.04.1 will be released to update-manager ?
[17:39] <zivester> assuming i should wait for that for my 12.04 upgrade
[17:39] <yeats> zivester: no need to wait
[17:40] <zivester> are you recommending sudo update-manager -d ?
[17:40] <TJ-> zivester: I think we're wating for all the mirrors to sync
[17:40] <yeats> zivester: no - 14.04 is not a development release - you should be able to upgrade normally
[17:40] <TJ-> zivester: when Trusty appears in this meta-release file, it'll be available: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts
[17:41] <zivester> ahh.. then update-manager should prompt me... does that usually take a couple days? i have some free time today so was hoping to do it now
[17:42] <yeats> zivester: 14.04 was release in April (am I missing something?)
[17:42] <lloydm> 14.10 is available?
[17:42] <TJ-> zivester: It's showing in -proposed, but it takes time for the mirrors to all catch up
[17:42] <zivester> thanks TJ-
[17:42] <cfhowlett> !utopic | lloydm
[17:42] <zivester> yeats: 12.04 only gets update on 14.04.1 ... which seems to be syncing currently
[17:42] <lloydm> I just got told bu update manager that 14.10 is available.
[17:42] <yeats> oh - huh, I didn't know that - my bad
[17:43] <cfhowlett> lloydm you've enabled development versions in your update manager
[17:43] <bazhang> lloydm, 1404.1
[17:43] <JokesOnYou77> I ran a normal system update and now I can't load graphics drivers.  The first error in the boot sequence appears to be Read Required Files In Advance.  How can I debug and find what file is breaking this?
[17:44] <Ladon> okay, I'm lost after looking at the mount(8) and fstab wiki ... I just want all of my ext4 /mnt/ points to have rwx permissions across the board. When I follow what I see posted they fail to mount on boot
[17:44] <genoobie> hey all
[17:44] <genoobie> trying to figure out a bit of video stuff
[17:44] <genoobie> and get my kid on minecraft
[17:44] <Chewy455> 14.04 you mean?
[17:44] <genoobie> tried using the proprietary video driver (nVidia 8200M) versus Xorg
[17:45] <genoobie> seems a bit "glitchy"
[17:45] <genoobie> any suggestions on advantages / disadvantages of Xorg vs nVidia driver?
[17:45] <genoobie> I could also use the "legacy" driver (considering the hardware is 6-7 years old)
[17:46] <genoobie> just try each one?
[17:46] <genoobie> after switching to the proprietary driver, the minecraft app seems to get stuck
[17:46] <genoobie> brb
[17:47] <TJ-> Ladon: you can test fstab entries without rebooting, using "sudo mount -a"
[17:48] <Ladon> well, when I run getfacl it tells me that I'm the owner/group and that u/g/o is all rwx
[17:48] <Ladon> but that's not the case
[17:48] <Eisroman> hi hackers
[17:48] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: It is probable that the kernel version was updated but the video driver (possibly proprietary package) wasn't, and therefore broke something. If the system boots to a text terminal you can look in "/var/log/kern.log", "/var/log/boot.log" and possibly "/va/log/Xorg.0.log" for clues
[17:48] <cfhowlett> Eisroman no hackers here - check your channel.
[17:49] <Eisroman> ok
[17:49] <Chewy455> Even after the update of 14.04 I'm still on a gray screen
[17:49] <TJ-> cfhowlett: There certainly are! Me for one!
[17:50] <Chewy455> When trying to remote into my virtualbox ubuntu
[17:51] <hernande__> sdfsdfs
[17:51] <TJ-> Chewy455: Can you SSH in and look at the logs for clues?
[17:51] <Chewy455> I'm not ssh'ng into it
[17:52] <Chewy455> but sure. Which logs do you want?
[17:52] <dexx> hello gentlemen
[17:52] <Chewy455> and put it into pastebin.ca or where?
[17:52] <Chewy455> (has never had to use Ubuntu IRC before)
[17:53] <Chewy455> ok I'll just do it :)
[17:53] <TJ-> Chewy455: not so much which logs I want, but I was suggesting you may find clues in the logs. What I'd do is SSH in, then try to connect via VNC, then do "ls -latr /var/log/" to list the logs files with most recently changed last, then investigate the log-files/directories changed at the the time the VNC connection occurred
[17:53] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, Thank you.  I've got a term emulator.  I've already --purge nvidia-* AND downloaded an older kernel image.  Nothing appears to have helped :/
[17:54] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: OK, so the GUI (X server) fails to start? I'd look in "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" if that is the case
[17:54] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: You might also find useful clues for the Display Manager in log-files in "/var/log/lightdm/"
[17:55] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: You may need 'sudo' to "ls" or read some of those
[17:55] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, in kern.log I have a few failed messages. wl: module verification failed: signature and/or required key missing - tainting kernel
[17:55] <walkerpp> Hi all. I am on live ubuntu and I want to fix my grub that I overwrote with windows installation. Can anyone please tell me what I have to do now?
[17:56] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: Those are for out-of-tree kernel modules and Secure Boot signing - you can safely ignore those
[17:56] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, No need for kid gloves btw, I'm not adept at boot time debugging, but I practically live in the terminal
[17:56] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, ok.
[17:56] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: Oh, that's a nice change :)
[17:56] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, the other fail message in kern.log is ioapc: probe of 0000:00:13.0 failed with error -22
[17:57] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: If the X server didn't even start, then Xorg.0.log won't be from the current boot... so use log-file timestamps as indications as to which logs are being updated for the current boot attempt
[17:57] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, Something in power management?
[17:57] <Ladon> grrr, I used setfacl -d -m u::rwx,g::rwx,o::rwx /mnt/
[17:57] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, Nah, this is in kern.log
[17:57] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: Aha! very often an external GPU is on 00:13
[17:57] <Ladon> and it's still not working! I can't delete newly added files remotely
[17:57] <Ladon> I'm trying to run this headless/with rdp :o
[17:57] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, AHHA!
[17:57] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: What is your system GPU configuration?
[17:58] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: my bet is, you haven't told the kernel to re-calculate the PCI bridges so theres not enough IOMEM address space
[17:58] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: what does "cat /proc/cmdline" show?
[17:58] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, It's a 2009 Mac Pro (I know, it's just what I've got to work with :/ ) The gpu is a GeForce 120
[17:59] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: is that GPU the 00:13 device? check what address the PCI devices are on with "lspci -nn"
[17:59] <adm001mi> hey all, I got a question... what does ubuntu do for cpufreq/cooling out of the box?
[17:59] <adm001mi> when it comes to laptops that is
[18:00] <MRME> can i do an lvm installatin without affecting all my hdd ?
[18:01] <MRME> TJ- i decided to reinstall it with lvm how can i guarantee the recovery partition does wipe or deleted
[18:01] <kdz> my VM doesnt want to start :(
[18:02] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, proc/cmdline => BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.13.--24-generic root=UUID=blah-blah ro
[18:02] <TJ-> MRME: You want to retain the existing installations? It is a long time since I did a desktop install so I can't recall now.... but I *think* LVM partitioning choice comes after the choice for installing alongside another OS... but as I say, I can't recall now so don't take my word on it
[18:03] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: is 00:13 (00:0d) the GPU?
[18:03] <Chewy455> I'm trying to upload the original :1.log file of the vnc server. However for some reason pastebin has a problem
[18:03] <fisch246> Is there a reason why 14.04.1 hasn't been released to the server repos yet?
[18:03] <MRME> TJ- no a new fresh install
[18:04] <MRME> but i don't want the custom windows recovery that came with my laptop to be deleted
[18:04] <eeee> fisch246: it's there
[18:04] <MRME> i guess i solved it
[18:04] <fallen_> i
[18:04] <fisch246> eeee: when I run "sudo do-release-upgrade" it can still not find an update
[18:04] <TJ-> fisch246: awaiting mirror servers to sync
[18:04] <Chewy455> ok boom I found justpaste.it
[18:04] <Chewy455> c7o6n5f4u3s2e1d0
[18:04] <Chewy455> oops
[18:04] <ntrnx64> i guess you take a "image" of this recovery partition?
[18:04] <eeee> fisch246: you have to run the normal update that was made
[18:05] <fisch246> eeee: meaning?
[18:05] <Chewy455> justpaste.it/gdj5
[18:05] <eeee> top right corner, about this computer > check for updates
[18:05] <fisch246> eeee: I'm referring to servers not desktop
[18:05] <TJ-> fisch246: You're waiting for 12.04 > 14.04 aren't you?
[18:05] <fisch246> TJ-: yes 12.04.4 > 14.04.1
[18:05] <eeee> fisch246: run apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade / apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:05] <TJ-> fisch246: awaiting mirror servers to sync
[18:06] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, 00:13.0 PIC [0800]: Intel Corporation 7500/5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub I/OxAPIC Interrupt Controller [8086:342d] (rev 13)
[18:06] <Chewy455> There is the log file to my vnc server which has problems.
[18:06] <TJ-> eeee: that is incorrect. fisch246 is waiting on do-release-upgrade
[18:06] <eeee> TJ-: he is on 12.04 ?
[18:06] <fallen_> :
[18:06] <MRME> the boot must be ex ? 2 or or 3 or 4 ?
[18:06] <fisch246> TJ-: alright, is there an estimate of how long it will be?
[18:06] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: Hmmm, OK, Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller ... I'm pretty sure that shouldn't fail, and is vital
[18:07] <MRME> TJ- the boot is only 500 i can't chose ext4 ? should i choose 2 or 3 /
[18:07] <TJ-> fisch246: None, we're all waiting with baited breath. When Trusty appears in the list here it'll be ready: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts
[18:07] <eeee> fisch246: you're on 12.04?
[18:07] <TJ-> eeee: Yes
[18:07] <eeee> oh ok
[18:07] <fisch246> TJ-: cool thanks! a place I can check :D
[18:07] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, Actually, I'm not seeing a gpu at all in lspci -nn
[18:08] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: How are you seeing anything then?!
[18:08] <compdoc> Chewy455, realvnc?
[18:08] <compdoc> there are easier ones
[18:08] <Chewy455> I choe apt-get vnc4server
[18:08] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: is that 14.04 ? Can you do "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg" ?
[18:08] <Chewy455> *chose
[18:08] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, I have no idea lol
[18:08] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: "cat /etc/issue"
[18:08] <compdoc> vnc4server is nice
[18:09] <OerHeks> lspci | grep -i VGA
[18:09] <Ace> hello, happy friday everybody. can somebody tell how easy it would be to allow usr/bin/acestreamplayer in AppArmor (i guess i would have to edit my Default apparrmor profile)
[18:09] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, hang on let me ssh in
[18:10] <Chewy455> Yeah. Just it is just giving me a gray screen.
[18:10] <MRME> Should /boot partition be formated in ext2 or ext4?
[18:10] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> I was going to use KDE as my desktop env and ended up not wanting to use it so i did (sudo apt-get remove kde-full) and now when i turn my computer restarts i have this blueish page asking me to type my password. Does anyone know how i can get the default login page back?
[18:10] <fisch246> TJ-: time for me spam f5 for the rest of the day :3
[18:10] <nickhilr1> Hi.. my pc is running on a 64bit amd processor and have 12Gs ram, how much swap area must i allocate while installing ubuntu?   i am new to linux and about to install ubuntu 14.04 64bit on my pc
[18:10] <compdoc> Chewy455, which version of ubunu
[18:10] <Chewy455> 14.04
[18:10] <Chewy455> LTS
[18:10] <nickhilr1> yes
[18:11] <Chewy455> And tight vnc or ultra vnc trying to login onto the virtualbox server. Local network
[18:11] <patarr> TJ-: whoops sent you a message in the wrong channel ;)
[18:11] <compdoc> Chewy455, vncserver wont work on 14.04
[18:11] <Chewy455> On a windows 7 starter notebook
[18:11] <Chewy455> Ok
[18:12] <Chewy455> What do you suppose I should do Doc?
[18:12] <compdoc> you need a 2D desktop, and Unity is only 3D now
[18:12] <Ozera||> Does anyone know how to use unetbootin on ubuntu 12.04? It won't show all directories so I can't select my iso
[18:12] <TJ-> patarr: whoops! replied to you in the wrong channel :p
[18:13] <bekks> Ozera||: Which directory isnt shown?
[18:13] <Chewy455> So find another distro or what? Because I set it up to use gnome relative to a tutorial I was following
[18:13] <Chewy455> My apologies for my ignorance.
[18:14] <compdoc> Chewy455, well what I was forced to do is install Ubuntu Server, and the mate desktop, but any of the other supported versions of Ubuntu should work. like ubuntu-gnome. I like Mate because you can install any of the same gnome programs that work on Unity
[18:14] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> I was going to use KDE as my desktop env and ended up not wanting to use it so i did (sudo apt-get remove kde-full) and now when i turn my computer restarts i have this blueish page asking me to type my password. Does anyone know how i can get the default login page back?
[18:14] <patarr> GuyThatNeedsHelp: you'd need to re enable lightdm and its login manager somehow I think
[18:14] <patarr> TJ-: i will go and check :)
[18:15] <Chewy455> wait wait. I'll show you my xstartup. Becaue what you're saying sounds liek what I've tried
[18:15] <Chewy455> *like
[18:15] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7857928/
[18:16] <Ozera||> bekks, it only shows "Computer" and "root" under that
[18:16] <bekks> Ozera||: So doubleclick on root.
[18:16] <Ozera||> bekks, and in root, it only shows a folder called 'sketchbook'
[18:16] <compdoc> Chewy455, Ive tried for a long time to get the current Unity to work in vncserver, becuase I like it
[18:16] <compdoc> but it wont
[18:17] <Chewy455> paste.ubuntu.com/7857943/
[18:17] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, I've never seen pastbinit before.  THIS IS AWESOME
[18:17] <Ozera||> bekks, the only folder in / is 'sketchbook;
[18:17] <Chewy455> Well in the tutorial I had to apt-get the gnome desktop for the vnc server connection
[18:18] <Chewy455> and also ech time I specified 1024x600 well I chose that as I was araid highr would be overkill or something.
[18:18] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: OK, so the GPU is "05:00.0" ... I'm suspicious of the " ioapc: probe of 0000:00:13.0 failed with error -22" but that *just may* be expected on a Mac... "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg" and lets see if there's anything else there
[18:20] <aa> hola
[18:20] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7857968/
[18:21] <DrShoggoth> does anybody know a good tool to extract a cue sheet from a cd image?   Besides for burning it and re-ripping of course
[18:21] <compdoc> Chewy455, this is my current xstart. Maybe you can use 'gnome-classic' at the bottom instead:    http://paste.ubuntu.com/7857970/
[18:21] <compdoc> and gnome-panel
[18:21] <DrShoggoth> mkcue                                                                                             - Generates a CUE sheet from a CD    <---- I'm thinking I should have checked the repository first... ignore my question :)
[18:22] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, # cat /etc/issue => Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[18:23] <slipttees> I'm trying to install nautilus-dropbox .... just that it does not complete the install my dpkg is locked, asking to run dpkg - configure-a only time I've ever done several and not conclude, how can you ignoring it and removing this package?
[18:23] <Cuby96> hi, im having a problem with the sound. can someone help me please?
[18:23] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, Also, fyi, I'm on gnome
[18:24] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: OK, the GPU driver is the open-source Nvidia nouveau. Can you check if there is a custom "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" - if there is, pastebinit ?
[18:25] <patarr> TJ-: failed to obtain gnome-session instance unknown parameter XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP
[18:25] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, I actually purged that driver too before I got on the chat.  So right now I have no graphics driver at all and I'm on kernel image 13.3.0-24 (BUt i have the more recent images available)
[18:26] <DrShoggoth> ok... so that doesn't work, it has to be a real cdrom, so back to needing a way to extract a cue or toc from a cd image
[18:26] <Chewy455> Doc it's baautiful. It's a connection. But it seems like it's just showing me the terminal is that normal?
[18:26] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, No custom xorg.conf.  I've just been letting gdm do the work for me.
[18:26] <patarr> TJ-: but like... why the hell is touching something gnome related when Im running KDE.
[18:26] <Chewy455> *beautiful
[18:27] <Chewy455> ah yes of course.xterminal emulator
[18:27] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: OK... I was wondering if xorg.conf had a custom nvidia entry which would of course fail if the kernel driver is nouveau.
[18:27] <slipttees> I'm trying to install nautilus-dropbox .... just that it does not complete the install my dpkg is locked, asking to run dpkg --configure -a every time. But I've ever done several times and won't work , how can you ignoring it and removing this package?
[18:28] <mrme> is it ok to give /boot 6 gb and give ext 4 type ?
[18:28] <TJ-> patarr: I don't know, that error log gets all sorts of weird reports, no datestamps, no process names... so rarely helpful!
[18:28] <Cuby96> hi, im having a problem with the sound. can someone help me please?.
[18:28] <bekks> mrme: 6GB is wasting 5.5GB at least :)
[18:28] <TJ-> mrme: You'll never use 600MB let alone 6GB for /boot/
[18:28] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, I can install nvidia-current if you think it would help.  If I reboot, any thoughts on which kernel image I should use?
[18:28] <patarr> TJ-: I tried enabling Composition in Xorg. Didn't work. Now I'm truly stumped. :'(
[18:28] <mrme> TJ- so i give it 512 ?
[18:29] <mrme> TJ- and ext 2 ?
[18:29] <nickhilr1> i am new to linux and about to install ubuntu 14.04 64bit on my pc running on a 64bit amd processor and have 12Gs ram, how much swap area must i allocate while installing ubuntu?
[18:29] <nickhilr1> anyone
[18:29] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, I also added the xorg-edgers ppa for more current drivers, I was hoping that would fix the problem but it doesn't seem to have helped yet
[18:29] <Chewy455> ok doc I just done an apt-get update through that terminal. And it updated something. So is that applied. Or must I do that on the original user account?
[18:30] <Chewy455> And do you have any tips or what to search for further to watch the logs of terminals being used in thi way?
[18:30] <Chewy455> *this
[18:30] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: The nouveau driver is part of the kernel package, and the related xorg drivers. What do you mean by having "purged" it?
[18:30] <bekks> mrme: 512M, ext4.
[18:30] <samsul> !swap
[18:30] <TJ-> mrme: 512MB for /boot/ is fine ^^^ as bekks says
[18:31] <patarr> TJ-: perhaps try Twinview?
[18:31] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, apt-get remove --purge
[18:31] <Chewy455> Doc you're super cool love you. Seriously. I can even use my Nano in it :)
[18:32] <compdoc> Chewy455, apt-get update doesnt do anything but refresh the server list that ubuntu uses to download the updates from
[18:32] <mrme> bekks i got box that says the size you entered is smaller than the minimum size of the partition please enter a larger size to continue
[18:32] <compdoc>  Chewy455, try:  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:32] <Chewy455> Oh I thought it updates the current installed packages
[18:32] <Chewy455> ok
[18:32] <TJ-> patarr: Have you tried the Guest log-in in case it is a per-user setting causing this, at least it would help narrow down the possibilities
[18:32] <bekks> mrme: 512 != 512M
[18:33] <mrme> yes ! i guess you can't assign ext4 ? maybe i need to use ext2 with 512 M
[18:33] <Chewy455> boooom!
[18:33] <bekks> mrme: Of course you can assign ext4.
[18:33] <Chewy455> It' on its own mission :D
[18:33] <compdoc> lol
[18:33] <Chewy455> And that applies across the whole VM?
[18:33] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, apt-get remove --purge noveau-firmware xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xsever-xorg-video-nouveau-dbg
[18:33] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: I think you should ensure all package dependencies are good with "apt-get -f install" then try "service lightdm start" (all with "sudo " prefix) and then "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[18:33] <compdoc> it applies to the OS
[18:34] <slipttees> I'm trying to install nautilus-dropbox .... just that it does not complete the install my dpkg is locked, asking to run dpkg --configure -a every time. But I've ever done several times and won't work , how can you ignoring it and removing this package?
[18:34] <Chewy455> :D
[18:34] <Chewy455> :D:D:D:D
[18:34] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: Ouch... that may well have double-broke the poor X server
[18:34] <kstenger> I'm trying to reinstall a /boot partition with grub on an usb stick for which grub got broken after an update. I did everything in http://pastie.org/9420314 however grub-install is still not finding any instance of linux. I need serious help with this, as I've done all the necesary steps, and folowed every posible guide so far.
[18:34] <patarr> Are Lubuntu Kubuntu and the likes behind Ubuntu in any way? Or do they still use the same repos but just come with different packages installed?
[18:35] <Chewy455> I mean sadly I wasn't able to get what I wanted done today. But I mean with OS technology it's fogivable. But you sincerely helped me. I'm so grateful buddy :)
[18:35] <Chewy455> *forgivable
[18:35] <Chewy455> *Open Source
[18:35] <mrme> beaks alright it worked when i changed from primary to logical
[18:35] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, :/
[18:36] <mrme> bekks alright it worked when i changed from primary to logical
[18:36] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, apt-get -f install did nothing
[18:36] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, I don't have lightdm, but I'll try with gdm
[18:36] <bekks> mrme: that doesnt matter, I guess you changed another parameter as well.
[18:36] <loa> how i can stop samba in ubuntu?
[18:36] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" should ensure all the dependencies are in place (assuming you're using Unity - otherwise replace 'ubuntu-desktop' with the one you're using)
[18:37] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, The base install was server addition.  Everything else was built on top of that.  So should I reinstall nouveau?
[18:37] <LeMike> hm. ubuntu or debian? I dunno if I switch to debian. if debian is up to date like ubuntu with it's packages then I would love to! is it?
[18:37] <mrme> beaks maybe ok do i assign all other free space to home ?
[18:37] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: hang on, let me check on the top package required
[18:37] <compdoc> sudo status smbd, sudo stop smbd
[18:37] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, sudo apt-get install gnome, everything is newest version.  (I think that's the right metapackage)
[18:38] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: "apt-get install xserver-xorg" *should* pull in "xserver-xorg-video-all" which depends on "xserver-xorg-video-nouveau"
[18:39] <Chewy455> Ok. Now I can go forward until I hit a brick wall. This should help me with my libpcap and tcpdump computer forensic book. I should head off as my ex wants to watch ramseys kitchen nightmares with me. Thank you all and Especially Doc. I'll try and pop in more often. This place is wonderful.
[18:39]  * Chewy455 smiles and waves
[18:39] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: Assuming the packages are installed, do the 'gdm' start test and lets look at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[18:40] <nickhilr1> ubottu: thanks
[18:40] <karin> Hey guys is anybody having flash problems since updating to 14.04?
[18:41] <bekks> karin: Whats your actual question? :)
[18:42] <Gin^> Got a rather strange issue perhaps someone could help me identify the problem too. Occationally, more often then once every few minutes, keyboard gets stuck spamming the letter 'A' in any application I have open for the time beeing. Disconnecting the keyboard does not solve the problem. Though a quick double tap on A key does. Any ideas on whats causing this?
[18:42] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, What is the datestamp in the log files?  Is it unix time?
[18:42] <dexx> gentlemen, does anyone use Autodesk Maya 2015?
[18:42] <bekks> Gin^: That sounds like a defective A key on the keyboard.
[18:42] <dexx> (and ladies, of course)
[18:42] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: yes
[18:43] <mrme> if i have two hard disk can i assign storage from both hard disk to home ?
[18:43] <chris112> ubuntu gnome keeps forgetting display configuration. how can i fix that?
[18:43] <bekks> mrme: No.
[18:43] <destre> ubuntu gnome keeps forgetting display configuration. how can i fix that?
[18:44] <bprompt> Gin^:    yeah... just open up the keyboard, give it some clean up while at it =), and check the rubbier or metal spring in the letter A, since it seems to somewhat be getting stuck
[18:44] <karin> Hi bekks, since I updated, Chrome doesn't work with flash videos online, YouTube runs smooth tho and I have no problems with Firefox, I've heard this is a common problem and that 14.04 fixed it for some people but it didn't work with me!
[18:44] <Gin^> bekks: tried they keyboard on a windows 8 installation, aswell as a LM installation without any issues. Are Ubuntu prone to be more affected by keyboard hardware issues?
[18:44] <mrme> bekks so what can i do with the other hard disk in my laptop :/ what do i assign it for
[18:44] <bekks> mrme: something like /data for example.
[18:44] <TJ-> Gin^: I suppose it could be some of the Accessibility 'sticky keys' settings affecting that, though I doubt it. Sounds more like the keyboard isn't sending the key-up event so the auto-repeat kicks in. Are you able to try a different external keyboard?
[18:44] <Gin^> bprompt: see my answer to beeks
[18:45] <bekks> Gin^: No, it isnt. Did you try another keyboard?
[18:45] <bekks> karin: I am using Chrome on 14.04 without any issues.
[18:45] <Gin^> bekks: Not for the time beeing, Im rather short on keyboard these days :P
[18:45] <TJ-> Gin^: I remember a long time ago there used to be an issue that if you held down the Ctrl key (I think it was) for a time it engaged the stick-keys or some other accessibility feature, which caused weird behaviour
[18:45] <mrme> beaks right now my laptop is 1500 gb 750+750 i assigned 50gb to / and 20gb /opt 30gb /var /usr /tmp /usr/local /srv / 512mb /boot i still have 500 gb from the first hard disk and 750 from the other hard disk
[18:46] <mrme> bekks right now my laptop is 1500 gb 750+750 i assigned 50gb to / and 20gb /opt 30gb /var /usr /tmp /usr/local /srv / 512mb /boot i still have 500 gb from the first hard disk and 750 from the other hard disk
[18:46] <Gin^> TJ-: Thanks, gonna look at the accessibility options, and try find a old keyboard somewhere
[18:46] <karin> Where did you get chrome, bekks, official page?
[18:46] <mrme> TJ- please read my last statement its my last question
[18:46] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, Starting gdm has no effect on the Xorg log file.  Nothing changes at all
[18:46] <bekks> mrme: You are wasting space. An Ubuntu installation runs perfectly with 20GB overall.
[18:47] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: which suggests gdm isn't doing much
[18:47] <mrme> alright what do you suggest me to do with the storage i have ? ubuntu says i need to mount it to something or i will not use it
[18:47] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: maybe its stuck in the 'started' state? Have you tried "service gdm stop && service gdm start" ?
[18:48] <genoobie> hey all
[18:48] <bekks> mrme: I suggest not wasting space. :) 512M for /boot, 20G for /, 4G for /home, and the space left on the harddisks for /data and /data2
[18:48] <walterwoj> Can someone help me with an error while updating.  I keep getting: fatal error, aborting:  reading files list for package 'libxres1:i386': Input/output error
[18:48] <genoobie> just isntalled lubuntu, running into a few problems
[18:48] <destre> Gin^:    yeah... just open up the keyboard, give it some clean up while at it =), and check the rubbier or metal spring in the letter A, since it seems to somewhat be getting stuck
[18:48] <mrme> bekks i don't have any /data and /data2 in the mount choices
[18:48] <bekks> mrme: You can create them.
[18:48] <destre> Gin^:    yeah... just open up the keyboard, give it some clean up while at it =), and check the rubbier or metal spring in the letter A, since it seems to somewhat be getting stuck
[18:49] <Gin^> destre: Will do, The question for asking was that it runs flawless on 2 other installations.
[18:49] <genoobie> at any rate, the issue is do I use a "proprietary" video driver or Xorg
[18:49] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, trying to stop gdm gives Unknown Instance
[18:49] <destre> TJ-, Starting gdm has no effect on the Xorg log file.  Nothing changes at all
[18:49] <genoobie> when I use the proprietary driver and run minecraft it crashes / gets stuck
[18:49] <mrme> bekks ohhh ok :D what about the other partitions /tmp /srv .... do i need to give them anything ?
[18:49] <genoobie> Xorg, no such problem
[18:49] <bekks> mrme: you dont need them.
[18:49] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, Thoughts on vdpau-driver?
[18:49] <genoobie> is there any advantage to using a proprietary driver vs x?
[18:49] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: OK, you're sure your system is using gdm not lightdm?
[18:50] <mrme> beaks thanks just curious then who needs them ?
[18:50] <TJ-> genoobie: For Nvidia, very often much much better 3D acceleration performance
[18:50] <bekks> mrme: people that run servers, and have to put data on a dedicated filesystem.
[18:50] <destre> TJ-, Starting gdm has no effect on the Xorg log file.  Nothing changes at all
[18:50] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, It's ubuntu server.  It doesn't even have lightdm installed
[18:51] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: OK, so you've customised the X server startup then?
[18:51] <mrme> beaks thanks alot you taught me a lot
[18:51] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, Nope, I just installed the gnome metapackage which set up gdm
[18:51] <genoobie> so TJ- can I "fix" the crashing problem with minecraft or other compatibility?  I was using the latest 331 driver, but there is an option for a legacy driver.  Considering the hardware is 6-7 years old, would that be a better approach?
[18:51] <mrme> beaks thanks a lot you taught me a lot *
[18:51] <kdz> minecraft works well on windows
[18:51] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, I thought about going with no startup manager, but gdm was easier
[18:52] <TJ-> genoobie: If the latest driver supports the GPU, then keep it. Something else will be at issue... possibly lack of GPU memory, for example
[18:52] <syntroPi> JokesOnYou77, maybe you also can look at the log files in /var/log/gdm/ ?
[18:52] <walterwoj> has anyone else had any trouble with updating libxres1:i386 ?
[18:52] <genoobie> oh, hrm
[18:52] <genoobie> TJ-, any way to address that issue?
[18:52] <TJ-> genoobie: Usually no, unless the GPU is replaced
[18:53] <TJ-> genoobie: but it pays to identify the true cause first. I'd be looking for a minecraft debug logging option
[18:53] <genoobie> TJ-, well it doesn't "crash" the computer just freezes up
[18:54] <genoobie> the GPU is supported in the driver
[18:54] <TJ-> genoobie: overheating?
[18:54] <genoobie> any way to log that temperature?
[18:54] <genoobie> I can see the temp in nvidia-settings
[18:54] <syntroPi> JokesOnYou77, are you using the default ubuntu-gnome-desktop from trusty (gnome 3.10)? or are you using any gnome3-staging ppas with gnome 3.12 (those caused on my system a similar problem)?
[18:54] <TJ-> genoobie: The nvidia-settings GUI allows you to see the temperatures
[18:55] <genoobie> TJ-, yes, but if it "crashes" I won't know what the temp is when it dies
[18:55] <genoobie> TJ-, it's quite possible that it's overheating
[18:55] <JokesOnYou77> syntroPi, I'm on 3.10, but I do have that ppa installed, maybe purge that ppa?
[18:55] <genoobie> TJ-, wouldn't you expect Xorg to have the same result?
[18:56] <TJ-> genoobie: No, since it doesn't exercise the GPU in the same way
[18:56] <genoobie> Gotcha, thanks
[18:56] <genoobie> now when the computer freezes what options do I have
[18:56] <destre> Can someone help me with an error while updating.  I keep getting: fatal error, aborting:  reading files list for package 'libxres1:i386': Input/output error
[18:56] <TJ-> genoobie: this is one of the problems with proprietary drivers, they don't expose standard interface for monitoring temperatures
[18:56] <genoobie> ctrl-alt-del doesn't do anything
[18:57] <TJ-> genoobie: I'd bet (weakly) on overheating
[18:57] <genoobie> okay.
[18:57] <genoobie> I could set the fan on full and see if that helps.
[18:57] <walterwoj> destre: That is me your quoting...
[18:57] <syntroPi> JokesOnYou77, i used that ppa and did a dist-upgrade on it to get 3.12. then i got that issue that gdm login didnt show up (just black screen with mouse). after i ppa-purge ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3-staging and reverting back to the stock 3.10 that issue disappeared for me
[18:58] <genoobie> so TJ- not really much of a solution is there.
[18:58] <genoobie> TJ-, the idling temp is about 60
[18:58] <pschmitt> Hi, I'm having some trouble with dm-crypt
[18:58] <pidybi> need GPS for Ubuntu, any idea?
[18:58] <pidybi> GPS map&guide 8
[18:59] <pschmitt> is cryptsetup supposed to read its config from /etc/crypptab just like mount does with /etc/fstab?
[18:59] <JokesOnYou77> syntroPi, I can try that.  But the issue that I'm having is that X isn't even starting
[18:59] <TJ-> genoobie: my GPUs are @ 57, 74, 66
[18:59] <walterwoj> anyone know about fixing read errors while upgrading?
[18:59] <d45611> hi folks.  I'm ssh'ing into a machine running Ubuntu 14.04.  When I start screen it wont start in 256 colors.  it gives me this error -bash: screen-256color: command not found.  I researched this problem and it looks like the Terminal program on my mac is running XTerm 256 colors.  Do I need to edit a file on the remote machine to correspond with this?  If so, how can I do this please?
[18:59] <kstenger> please if you may check this out http://askubuntu.com/questions/502665/fix-broken-grub-on-usb-stick-mounting-lvm-from-the-hardrive
[19:00] <TJ-> pschmitt: the cryptdisk tools do
[19:00] <pschmitt> cryptdisk?
[19:01] <pschmitt> kstenger: this is very different from the issue i am encountering
[19:01] <TJ-> pschmitt: The scripts that come with cryptsetup that handle boot-time unlocking
[19:01] <kstenger> pschmitt: this is my issue, sorry they seem related :)
[19:01] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, I rebooted, in kern.log does this mean anything to you: noveau 0000:05:00.0 registered panic notifier
[19:01] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: That is usually the final message from the driver; normal
[19:01] <syntroPi> JokesOnYou77, hmm have you tried starting it in recovery mode (from grub) and then "resume"? that kinda worked on my system when i had that issue.
[19:02] <syntroPi> on same kernel ofc
[19:02] <JokesOnYou77> syntroPi, I did in fact try that.  I've also tried different kernel versions
[19:03] <JokesOnYou77> syntroPi, Good catch though
[19:03] <syntroPi> JokesOnYou77, what do you mean by Xorg isnt even starting? Empty Xorg.0.log?
[19:03] <syntroPi> on my sys it partially started then froze
[19:03] <syntroPi> so i hat some lines in there
[19:04] <genoobie> TJ-, the screen definitely looks better with the Nvidia driver running
[19:05] <AcidRain> grep -l  "$userid" /var/www/wwb/*.php | cut -d: -f1       this appears to return all files. even when it doesnt match
[19:05] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: sounds like you need to debug the gdm startup scripts... something in its config may have it disabled
[19:05] <patarr> Are Lubuntu Kubuntu and the likes behind Ubuntu in any way? Or do they still use the same repos but just come with different packages installed?
[19:05] <JokesOnYou77> syntroPi, running sudo service start gdm, no lines are added to Xorg.0.log
[19:05] <AcidRain> however, the word "userid" was found in the file. but im searching for "$userid"
[19:05] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, I think you're right. Is there a way to test that theory?  # startx ?
[19:06] <AcidRain> actually that doesnt work at all. it returns all files in the dir
[19:06] <Slagwag> hey ubuntuers
[19:06] <TJ-> AcidRain: "$userid" is expanded by the shell into the contents of the variable "userid" - if that is empty, you're doing an empty search. You need to *escape* the $ sign with "\$userid" or use single quotes '$userid'
[19:06] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, rsyslogd-2039: Could no open output pipe '/dev/xconsole': No such file or directory [try http://www.rsyslog.com/e/2039 ]
[19:07] <AcidRain> TJ-: wow. thx again
[19:07] <Slagwag> im struggling to get apt-get working with a proxy. I have to use a corporate proxy with authentication. So far everything I reado nline hasn't worked so im a bit stumped. I tried this: export http_proxy="http://"FirstName.Last@company.com":MyPassword@proxy.address.com:80"
[19:07] <_1_Daniel> Hola
[19:07] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: Long time since I had to debug the init scripts... I usually read them, and deduce which configs they are reading that control conditional actions, and then go read the config files themselves to understand how the service script would behave
[19:08] <_1_Daniel> Ok
[19:08] <Slagwag> i also tried adding to /etc/apt/apt.conf and putting aquire::http::proxy - then puttin in that http path
[19:08] <_1_Daniel> Espanp
[19:08] <syntroPi> JokesOnYou77, what about the log files in /var/log/gdm/
[19:08] <_1_Daniel> Espano
[19:09] <TJ-> Slagwag: "man apt.conf" "/    http" says its format is  " http://[[user][:pass]@]host[:port]/"
[19:10] <Slagwag> yea i know
[19:10] <Slagwag> that is that format
[19:11] <TJ-> Slagwag: what kind of authentication is required?
[19:11] <Slagwag> user and pass but it is AD based so the User name is my full email with domain
[19:11] <Slagwag> OR
[19:11] <Slagwag> Domain\user
[19:11] <Slagwag> but neither work when I add that
[19:12] <Slagwag> however I am able to run yum update by putting in that same credential set into a centos box
[19:12] <Slagwag> in the yum.conf file
[19:12] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, syntroPi /var/log/gdm/:0-slave.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/7858340
[19:12] <Slagwag> though its a different http_proxy format
[19:13] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, syntroPi Sorry, meant :0-greeter.log
[19:13] <Slagwag> but when you have an @ sign or any punctuation in the username you have to put it in quotes therefore it is "http://"secondquote":Password@host:port"
[19:14] <Etale> Howdy y'all. I was here yesterday, but I'm still stuck. I have a new Lenovo computer, which comes with Windows 8. It's got an SSD harddrive. I'm trying to install Ubuntu so that it will dual boot.
[19:14] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: see bug #1184823
[19:14] <Etale> Right now whenever I'm booting from the Ubuntu disk it stays stuck on the logo screen.
[19:14] <Etale> I checked the DVD for problems and it has none.
[19:15] <Etale> I understand that this probably has something to do with EFI...? I'm clueless about these things.
[19:15] <Fishscene> Etale, during the boot, (before it freezes), press [esc] to show more details on the boot process.
[19:15] <Etale> I'm there now, Fishscene.
[19:15] <Etale> I changed the Boot Mode to "Diagnostics". (Before that it was "quick".) Still same result.
[19:16] <TJ-> Slagwag: Have  you seen/tried this: http://serverfault.com/questions/175495/apt-get-through-ntlm-authenticated-proxy
[19:17] <d45611> hi folks.  I'm ssh'ing into a machine running Ubuntu 14.04.  When I start screen it wont start in 256 colors.  it gives me this error -bash: screen-256color: command not found.  I researched this problem and it looks like the Terminal program on my mac is running XTerm 256 colors.  Do I need to edit a file on the remote machine to correspond with this?  If so, how can I do this please?
[19:18] <Slagwag> Acquire::http::Proxy "http://MYDOMAIN\MYNAME:MYPASS@MY.PROXY.COM:MYPORT";
[19:18] <Slagwag> thats exactly what i did
[19:18] <Fishscene> Etale: hmm… I'm not familiar with EFI on Lenovo's, but some machines offer a BIOS/EFI boot mode. WARNING: I have no idea if that setting (if it exists) will mess up your Windows 8 boot.
[19:18] <Fishscene> Aside from that, I'm not going to be of much help at all. :S
[19:18] <TJ-> Slagwag: Is there any clue as to why it is failing, either on the client or on the proxy server event logs?
[19:19] <Slagwag> COuld not connect to and Unable connect to errors
[19:19] <Slagwag> Its as if it is not even attempting the proxy
[19:19] <TJ-> Slagwag: That sounds more like it, yes
[19:20] <TJ-> Slagwag: Have you confirmed the DNS name of the proxy resolves
[19:21] <Etale> Okay, I now disabled "secure boot". Let's see if it works.
[19:21] <Slagwag> yup
[19:21] <Slagwag> i tried via IP too
[19:21] <TJ-> Etale: Have you tried holding down the Space key as the installer starts to get to the boot menu? Does that work, or does it freeze before that?
[19:21] <Slagwag> hmm
[19:22] <TJ-> Slagwag: Can you manually access the proxy server using, say, curl?
[19:22] <Etale> TJ-, when you say boot menu, do you mean the BIOS menu, or the menu that has "try ubuntu" as one of the options?
[19:22] <Etale> Wait..
[19:22] <Etale> I think it works...?
[19:22] <TJ-> Etale The boot menu on the installer ISO image on DVD/USB :)
[19:23] <OerHeks> Etale, i cannot read back enough, but did you disable fastboot in windows 8? this can hog up in partitioning issues.
[19:23] <Etale> TJ-, I get that anyway.
[19:23] <Etale> OerHeks, yes.
[19:23] <Etale> Well, "quick boot".
[19:23] <OerHeks> Etale, indeed, quickboot, oke, continue
[19:24] <TJ-> Etale: OK, so it is whilst the kernel is starting and the splash screen is displayed. You can press Escape as soon as the splash-screen appears to have it go away again, to see te boot messages
[19:24] <normalhum> !sync
[19:24] <destre> Are Lubuntu Kubuntu and the likes behind Ubuntu in any way? Or do they still use the same repos but just come with different packages installed?
[19:25] <TJ-> destre: different package mixes
[19:25] <Etale> Hold on guys. I'm trying to see whether this works or not. It sorta seemed like it did, but then it ejected the DVD and then it complained that there's no "live file system"? I'll try again.
[19:25] <TJ-> Etale: The ejection would cause that :D
[19:26] <normalhum> !sync
[19:26] <normalhum> !sync
[19:26] <normalhum> !sync
[19:26] <normalhum> !sync
[19:26] <normalhum> !sync
[19:26] <normalhum> !sync
[19:26] <normalhum> !sync
[19:26] <unopaste> normalhum you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[19:27] <normalhum> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7858458/
[19:27] <loa> is nautilus woking with samba mounts bad or it is just me?
[19:27] <syntroPi> JokesOnYou77, hmm not quite sure on that one, is '/var/log/gdm/:0.log' empty then?
[19:28] <normalhum> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7858458/
[19:28] <Etale> No, nada...
[19:28] <normalhum> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7858458/
[19:28] <Etale> Stuck on the logo screen again.
[19:28] <normalhum> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7858456/
[19:28] <Ben64> !ops | normalhum
[19:29] <Etale> When clicking escape, I see a bunch of things it tried doing. It ended with a "Starting Recovery options if display manager fails to start" and then "Ending Recovery options if display manager fails to start".
[19:30] <normalhum> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7858466/
[19:30] <Etale> Hmm... I'll try burning the DVD from a different computer...
[19:30] <Etale> Maybe it's just bad data?
[19:31] <syntroPi> JokesOnYou77, you also may try nvidia-331 instead of nvidia-current (which depends on nvidia-304)
[19:32] <AaronCampbell> Ever since the update to Thunderbird 31 (I just did it a couple days ago via the software updater from the standard repo), clicking "reply" on an E-Mail opens a message like normal except the From or Reply-to isn't filled into the To field. Has anyone else seen this?
[19:32] <optrusty> !software ubuntu-desktop
[19:33] <rawrmonster> Im pretty sure this is a bug with unity but when i try and open wine programs full screen even with the virtual desktop it fails to go full screen and is blocked in by the unity bar and the top bar as well. In any other desktop enviroment it works perfectly. Am I just doing something wrong? Is there a way to fix this?
[19:33] <dickfeynman> Is the 14.04.1 release out? I'm not getting any upgrade notification from the software-updater.
[19:34] <compdoc> yes
[19:34] <Ben64> dickfeynman: should be out, yeah. what version of ubuntu do you have?
[19:34] <dickfeynman> Ben64: I have 12.04 LTS
[19:35] <compdoc> I had to turn off update notifications because there are so many, it was driving me crazy
[19:35] <compdoc> but I have 14.04.1
[19:35] <Etale> This person claims that Ubuntu 14.04 is incompatible with Thinkpad 440p?
[19:35] <xangua> compdoc: security updates are important
[19:35] <Etale> *T440p
[19:35] <Etale> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/246834
[19:36] <Ben64> dickfeynman: hmm, i'm not getting a notice about 14.04 either
[19:37] <Bashing-om> dickfeynman: Ben64 :; Phased updates from the update manager ? .. maybe try from terminal, see what then resulrs .
[19:38] <Etale> How are the different Ubuntu versions different? Is 12 any worse than 14? Aren't the kernels identical?
[19:39] <SharkMa-san> naturally 14 has a newer version of the kernel
[19:39] <Ben64> Etale: 12.04 was released in 2012, 14.04 was released in 2014. you can use 14.04's kernel on 12.04, but 14.04 has all newer packages than 12.04
[19:41] <SharkMa-san> at least for me there is a lot more support for stuff in 14.04, for example the docking station works for me but doesn't in 12.04
[19:41] <SharkMa-san> the laptop in question is a dell model that is also being shipped with ubuntu
[19:42] <SharkMa-san> and yes, it's shipped with 12.04
[19:45] <ballock> Happy SysAdmin day to whoever sysadmin on the channel.
[19:45] <ballock> And while I'm typing, anybody used the GRUB_BADRAM setting? Grub doesn't print a thing when I set it.
[19:47] <JokesOnYou77> syntroPi, I'll give that a try as well.  I'm currently playing with changning gnome version
[19:48] <baegle> Trying to use iwconfig to change my AP but I think NetworkManager is preventing me
[19:48] <baegle> How do I FORCE my wireless card to reassociate with a specified AP by mac addr of the AP?
[19:52] <zenpac> Anyone ever have problems with dbus?
[19:52] <compiledkernel> not usually, no.
[19:52] <zenpac> Sometimes it gets in a wonky state and needs to be restarted?
[19:53] <zenpac> compiledkernel: I just logged into my Virt/Qemu system and I could not start virt-manager because of a dbus errror.
[19:53] <compiledkernel> hmmmm
[19:53] <zenpac> http://askubuntu.com/questions/354967/glib-gerror-no-d-bus-daemon-running seems to have fixed it..
[19:54] <zenpac> I'm just trying to see what I did wrong, and how NOT to do it in the future.
[19:57] <AaronCampbell> Ever since the update to Thunderbird 31 (I just did it a couple days ago via the software updater from the standard repo), clicking "reply" on an E-Mail opens a message like normal except the From or Reply-to isn't filled into the To field and I can't even click into it to fill it myself. Has anyone else seen this?
[19:57] <sockyreds> Hi, I'm using latest Ubuntu desktop version. Remote Desktop sharing with windows/RealVnc is very slow on the same local network
[19:57] <adeschamps> exit
[19:58] <kdz> sigh vbox and NAT is crap
[19:59] <bekks> Works like a charm here.
[20:00] <sockyreds> any clue/help in right direction to fix performance issue?
[20:02] <nosfet> does anyone know how to take advantage harddrives with ssd caches ?
[20:02] <plinio_> .net
[20:02] <SharkMa-san> btw, is there a list of Ubuntu IRC channels anywhere? I've been wondering if there is a Finnish one
[20:03] <genii> !fi
[20:04] <svip> How do I verify which version of Ubuntu I am running?  I am pretty sure I am running 12.04 precise, but I cannot upgrade (it claims to be the newest version).
[20:04] <Ben64> svip: cat /etc/issue
[20:04] <SharkMa-san> ah, that was the command... but it still would be helpful to have the list available in IRC info page
[20:04] <SharkMa-san> or a link to it
[20:04] <svip> Ben64: Yeah, I am running 12.04.4 LTS, but update-manager --dist-upgrade won't upgrade.
[20:05] <Ben64> svip: i don't think thats the correct command
[20:05] <zenpac> How does one list service start states in 14.0X?
[20:05] <zenpac> chkconfig is no more.
[20:05] <Ben64> svip: try "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[20:06] <svip> Ben64: I get a 404 from that.
[20:06] <Ben64> svip: 404? huh?
[20:06] <svip> http://askubuntu.com/questions/462326/upgrade-ubuntu-server-11-04-signature-error
[20:06] <svip> I get this error.
[20:07] <Ben64> that wouldn't happen on 12.04
[20:07] <svip> Ben64: Well, it happens here.
[20:07] <Ben64> pastebin your actual error
[20:08] <svip> Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7858749/
[20:08] <Ben64> svip: according to that, you're on 12.10
[20:09] <svip> Ben64: Wat.
[20:09] <Ben64> line 9. says quantal
[20:09] <svip> Ben64: But cat /etc/issue says 12.04.4 LTS!
[20:09] <svip> But all lines in /etc/apt/sources.list says precise.
[20:09] <svip> o_O
[20:09] <Ben64> actually, it may be trying to upgrade to 12.10
[20:09] <svip> Isn't it because it is trying to upgrade to quantal?
[20:09] <Ben64> which is still very weird
[20:10] <Pici> svip: Are you trying to upgrade to a new release? or just perform a dist-upgrade?
[20:10] <svip> Pici: Upgrade to a new release.
[20:10] <svip> I believe it is time to move on from 12.04.4 LTS.
[20:10] <Ben64> svip: open the update manager, go to settings, make sure it's set to upgrade to LTS only
[20:11] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, So I upgraded a bunch of stuff and sort of got X to work again (still no gdm) but now I have no virtual terminals.  WHen I ctrl-alt-F2 I get nothing
[20:11] <Pici> svip: or modify /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades to lts
[20:12] <svip> Pici,Ben64: Well, I changed it to lts (I had changed it to see if anything was working).
[20:12] <svip> Now I get a different message.
[20:12] <svip> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7858769/
[20:13] <svip> Pici,Ben64: Yeah, update-manager also says the system is up to date.
[20:13] <MarcGuay> Hi folks.  Ubuntu 14.04.  I'd like to change the Dash shortcut key, any ideas?
[20:13] <Ben64> weird, i guess it isn't prompting yet, even though 14.04.1 is out. you can still do the upgrade by "sudo do-release-upgrade -d"
[20:14] <dfosco_> Hi, I just did a clean install of 14.04 on my laptop and I am having trouble getting the bluetooth to work.  In the systems settings for bluetooth, everything is gray.  I think I remember doing something with modprobe last time I had this issue.  Any ideas?
[20:14] <svip> Ben64: Woo.
[20:15] <nvidia> Hi, I installed a new graphic driver and CTRL+ALT+F1..F6 is now in a terrible resolution (something like 480x300.. it was 2000x something before. Any idea what's going on and how to get the high resolution? :O
[20:15] <daftykins> nvidia: that doesn't impact functionality, it's just a fact of life with proprietary graphics drivers
[20:15] <daftykins> TTYs become non-native resolution
[20:15] <patarr> Is anyone in this channel successfully running a 3+ multi monitor configuration? If so, please let me know what cards you're using.
[20:16] <nvidia> daftykins: but I assume it can be fixed?
[20:16] <ImJune> anyone hom
[20:16] <ImJune> e
[20:16] <daftykins> nvidia: sure, uninstall your nvidia driver and go back to nouveau :)
[20:16] <ImJune> :)
[20:16] <svip> Ben64: Oh. :( I did not have enough space for the upgrade.
[20:17] <Ben64> svip: :(
[20:17] <nvidia> patarr: you might have to use older graphics driver, because NVidia has limited the amount of screens you can have with one card to match the limit of the window driver (for whatever reason).
[20:17] <Rape> hi
[20:17] <patarr> nvidia: I'm running legacy drivers... lmao. These are terrible old quadro cards.
[20:17] <ImJune> I have an IMAC 2013 model, headphone jack does not work know any possible fixes anyone?
[20:17] <patarr> nvs series
[20:17] <nvidia> patarr: it was part of an update of their driver: "limit the amount of screens so that it matches that of other operating systems [windows]"
[20:18] <SharkMa-san> isn't ctrl + alt + f1 - f6 to open a terminal?
[20:18] <patarr> nvidia: I would really only be running 3.
[20:18] <SharkMa-san> so why should it need a high resolution
[20:18] <patarr> But so far, I have had nothing but trouble with these damn drivers. It could probably be cause im using old obscure cards.. But thats why im asking people in this channel to see what support is like for newer cards.
[20:18] <patarr> Should I get some GTX cards or something?
[20:18] <nvidia> SharkMa-san: because it's 480x300 now?
[20:19] <SharkMa-san> I get a normal DOS like text prompt
[20:19] <svip> Ben64: I guess 25GB for / is too little. :[
[20:19] <Ben64> patarr: 3 monitors should work on any recent nvidia card that supports that, 4 or more may be a problem
[20:19] <nvidia> Ben64: idk \o/
[20:20] <daftykins> SharkMa-san: no it's a TTY, not a normal terminal application
[20:21] <daftykins> nvidia: look up "ubuntu <your version> nvidia driver native resolution tty" - but it's not an actual problem so i consider it outside support
[20:22] <SharkMa-san> daftykins: well, I had no idea what it was called, but that's it
[20:22] <imran_> how do i initiate upgrade to the new point .1 release for 14.01
[20:22] <SharkMa-san> I've used it several times after having problems with x to get back to the login screen
[20:22] <Bashing-om> svip: "I guess 25GB for / is too little" most likely not // as I run "/dev/sda1       4.7G  2.0G  2.6G  44% /
[20:23] <svip> Heh.
[20:23] <svip> Well, if I could tell do-upgrade-release to use a different partition, it would be fine.
[20:23] <Bashing-om> svip: Ya might check and see if /boot full is causing the proble, -> df -h <- .
[20:23] <patarr> I hear a lot of should work. But does anyone actually have Xinerama on Nvidia with 3 screens?
[20:24] <svip> Bashing-om: df -h and du -sh are my pals!
[20:24] <nvidia> patarr: I don't know :/. All I've read is the thing I said. I've never used two screens.
[20:25] <nvidia> patarr: oh, sorry, thought you highligthed me on purpose :p
[20:25] <genii> svip: In a pinch I've used union mount to a dir on another partition for /boot just to get stuff installed. But it's a dirty, dirty workaround.
[20:25] <imran_> how do i initiate upgrade to the new point .1 release for 14.01
[20:25] <patarr> lmfao you must get highlighted a lot :P
[20:28] <xangua> imran_: there is no ubuntu 14.01
[20:28] <xangua> imran_: if you are using ubuntu 14.04 and keep up to date with security updates you already are in the point release
[20:29] <imran_> oops 14.04
[20:29] <imran_> how do i confirm that?
[20:29] <Pici> imran_: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:29] <eeee> type lsb_release -a
[20:30] <imran_> lsb_release -a
[20:30] <imran_> tnx
[20:32] <miqui> anyone here have experience with sshs?
[20:33] <miqui> sorry, sshfs...
[20:33] <daftykins> miqui: ask the next question as if someone had said "yes!"
[20:33] <Rohan_m> anyone help me in basic http request
[20:33] <reisio> daftykins: oh I like that one
[20:34] <daftykins> reisio: ;)
[20:34] <Pici> Rohan_m: what do you mean?
[20:34] <miqui> trying to use sshfs to mount a remote dir and simply be able to create  and rw files on the remote fs..
[20:35] <dominik> hello. I am new user of ubuntu. earlier i was using manjaro but new laptop do not like manjaro one. Can  u tell me what i have to do here after clear instalation of ubuntu ( 14.04 with unity) on laptop?
[20:35] <aetherix> Hey I'm looking for a linux alternative for snagit. Any good screen capturing software that you would recommend?
[20:36] <Rohan_m> Pici: when i send  http://mywpge.com/process.php?var=6+6  I only get 6 there not 6+6
[20:37] <aetherix> dominik, I would recommend installing the latest updates.
[20:37] <nvidia> is there a "quick" setup to make unity behave more like a normal desktop? (look more like windows or something)? I mean, the window's menu bar is at the top of the screen now, etc
[20:37] <xangua> nvidia: sudo apt-get install xubuntu kubuntu lubuntu, you choose
[20:37] <dominik> yeah yeah i know i done it. but whats more? i used earlier manjaro with kde and xfce.
[20:38] <xangua> they are more 'traditional' desktop enviroments
[20:38] <aetherix> dominik, what are you looking for specifically?
[20:39] <nvidia> i like the unity application tray though.. I suppose you can't have it in xubuntu?
[20:39] <ramio> hello what is the command for c++ ??
[20:39] <nvidia> ramio: g++
[20:39] <miqui> gcc
[20:39] <Guest87698> Do you mean he gcc command to cimple a cpp file?
[20:39] <dominik> some tweaks for batery ( sth like power managament ( for powersaving plan and normal work)
[20:39] <ramio> g++ project.cpp that is rigth command ?
[20:39] <nvidia> yes
[20:40] <ramio> ok what about gcc that is for what ?
[20:40] <nvidia> ramio: g++ is a shorthand for gcc with certain parameters
[20:40] <Guest87698> gcc is a frontend for g++ and others
[20:40] <miqui> man gcc
[20:40] <nvidia> ramio: what guest said is more correct
[20:40] <dominik> and some other software what will be helpfull with using mine laptop:)
[20:41] <Guest87698> A.K.A you can use gcc for a bunch of diffferent languages vs. g++ which is c++ only
[20:41] <nvidia> ramio: gcc executes g++ in the background, but you'll have to give it parameters such as gcc -lang=c++  or something, iirc
[20:42] <ramio> ok
[20:43] <Guest87698> nvidia: You can actuall just do {gcc source.cpp -o source.out}
[20:43] <Guest87698> And then
[20:43] <Guest87698> {source.out} to run it
[20:43] <ramio> thank you people but i have to go ^^ .....
[20:43] <Guest87698> Bye
[20:43] <nvidia> nice, thanks
[20:44] <nvidia> but any reason why i'd do that instead of g++?
[20:44] <Guest87698> Maybe if your sources contained multiple languages... honestly for just c++ there is no difference
[20:45] <ImJune> OH lord
[20:45] <ImJune> my nose is bleeding trying to get sound working properly on this IMAC
[20:45] <reisio> 'cxx'
[20:46] <Guest87698> How old is it? Did the sound suddenly fail?
[20:46] <ImJune> no
[20:46] <ImJune> its new
[20:46] <ImJune> 2014
[20:46] <Guest87698> And does the IMAC have ubuntu?
[20:46] <ImJune> not the newest
[20:46] <ImJune> yes
[20:46] <ImJune> LOL or I would not come here
[20:46] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all.  I got a new kernel image and now I can't start gdm.  I have ruled out the GPU as a problem.  I am able to run sudo startx and get a gnome session as root.  But I can't start gdm
[20:47] <ImJune> hmm
[20:47] <Guest87698> ImJune: Just checking
[20:47] <ImJune> its ok
[20:47] <aetherix> dominik, if you look in the unity menu, you will find energy settings in the settings manager
[20:47] <Guest87698> If gdm is failing why not use lightdm?
[20:47] <dominik> yeah but its not that what im looking for:)
[20:47] <maciek_> sorry if you talking about compilers, clang is also good choice ?
[20:48] <ImJune> basically the headphone jack is the issue
[20:48] <aetherix> dominik, and for application, have a look in the Ubuntu store. It's easy to browse them there.
[20:48] <aetherix> Oh you need a specific setting?
[20:48] <ImJune> i5 iris pro
[20:48] <dominik> ok. ty
[20:48] <ImJune> not the newer one that is dual core
[20:48] <JokesOnYou77> I've tried lightdm but it fails when trying to start a gnome session
[20:48] <ImJune> that one is crap
[20:49] <Guest87698> imJune: Did ubuntu ever have sound? The drivers might not be compatible. Did you do any updates?
[20:49] <ImJune> I have done all the updates that the software center asks for
[20:49] <ImJune> or ques me to do rather
[20:49] <Guest87698> Did the sound ever work?
[20:49] <ImJune> yes
[20:49] <ImJune> before through speakers
[20:50] <ImJune> but when I plug headphones in the speakers still played sound
[20:50] <ImJune> I am on 14.04lts
[20:50] <imran_> exit
[20:51] <RomanGalchinskii> what soundcard do u use?
[20:51] <Guest87698> Maybe your headphone jack isn't working. I have no idea. You might have to specify the sound output system like I did with wifi on this one laptop
[20:51] <ImJune> Not sure let me check system profile
[20:51] <ImJune> the jack is working fine
[20:52] <ImJune> I had mavericks on it 2 days ago
[20:52] <ImJune> working perfect
[20:52] <SharkMa-san> system tray is one of the most annoying things in Unity... you need to install extra packages to get (older) programs to show up there... you'd think it would support the way gnome and kde have handled system tray icons, but no
[20:53] <ImJune> damn this issue
[20:53] <ImJune> do you know the terminal commands to check my soundcard
[20:54] <ImJune> ?
[20:54] <RomanGalchinskii> pci/usb card?
[20:54] <ImJune> its the internal sound card
[20:55] <miqui> tried : sshfs -o IdentityFile=~/.ssh/myusr.pem -o allow_other,uid=1000,gid=0000 ubuntu@15.125.81.237:/dir ~/mydir
[20:55] <Guest87698> Try: sudo lshw. no garantees
[20:55] <miqui> mnts...ok...but still cannot creata a file..
[20:55] <ImJune> ok
[20:56] <JokesOnYou77>  I got a new kernel image and now I can't start gdm.  I have ruled out the GPU as a problem.  I am able to run sudo startx and get a gnome session as root.  But I can't start gdm
[20:56] <Guest87698> That should tell you all your hardware
[20:57] <ImJune> I think I am going to sell this fuckign machine
[20:57] <bekks> !language | ImJune
[20:57] <Guest87698> Have to leave. BYE
[20:58] <ImJune> ok
[20:58] <ImJune> sorry
[20:58] <ImJune>   description: Audio device              product: 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset High Definition Audio Controller              vendor: Intel Corporation              physical id: 1b              bus info: pci@0000:00:1b.0              version: 05              width: 64 bits              clock: 33MHz              capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list              configuration: driver=snd_hda_intel latency=0            
[20:58] <ImJune> there is the specs
[20:58] <RomanGalchinskii> imjune try lspci, what card do u see?
[20:58] <ImJune> intel sound card
[20:59] <ImJune> its intergrated of course
[21:00] <ImJune> Im dead tired already trying to fix this
[21:00] <ImJune> 6 am here in Japan
[21:00] <ImJune> I would have better luck building a machine from scratch
[21:01] <chief-imoch> heya. need some help on activating ttyS0. Gone through the serialconsole howto on ubuntu. created the /etc/init/ttyS0.conf file, but when trying to start getty, i get the message :start: unknown job: getty..
[21:01] <ImJune> I built one for my mother in law for less than 300 usd installed ubuntu and everything works brilliant on it
[21:02] <RomanGalchinskii> try system settings -> a sound -> put a priority on this sound card
[21:03] <ImJune> ok
[21:03] <reisio> ImJune: what's the problem?
[21:03] <ImJune> thank you I will try
[21:03] <RomanGalchinskii> try ctr+alt+t -> alsamixer and look at settings
[21:03] <Bashing-om> JokesOnYou77: Maybe a victum of this bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1347964 ; <-Precise w/Trusty HWE -> Trusty release upgrade fails : ubuntu-desktop fails to configure (importance:High → Critical) ??
[21:04] <ImJune> no go
[21:07] <JokesOnYou77> Bashing-om, I didn't upgrade form anything unfortunately, just apt-get upgrade and got a new kernel image
[21:08] <ImJune> perhaps need a reboot
[21:08] <ImJune> are you around often?
[21:08] <ImJune> @Roman_?
[21:09] <ZZRMike> I just installed kubuntu 14.04 on my lenovo u430 and I'm having an issue with the wireless connection on it. If I'm tethered to my phone via wifi it works fine, but as soon as I try connecting to a regular router it works for a few seconds then stops working.
[21:09] <theadmin> ZZRMike: Sounds like a driver problem here, or maybe hardware.
[21:10] <theadmin> ZZRMike: Did it work fine in your previous OS?
[21:10] <ImJune> Good bye
[21:10] <ImJune> Im a human unfortunately I do need sleep
[21:10] <ImJune> bye
[21:10] <ZZRMike> theadmin: it worked fine in windows
[21:11] <theadmin> ZZRMike: Okay then. Tether with your phone and find "Hardware Drivers" (or "Additional Drivers") in your settings for me, please
[21:11] <theadmin> ZZRMike: See if it's got anything for your wireless card
[21:12] <ZZRMike> theadmin: nothing
[21:12] <theadmin> ZZRMike: That's not nice... Do you know your wireless card model?
[21:12] <JokesOnYou77> How do I debug gdm startup?  I need to see what it's doing as it starts
[21:13] <ZZRMike> I just dug it up, it's the intel 7260
[21:13] <Bashing-om> JokesOnYou77: Point is // were you on the Hardware Enablemant Stacj with release 12.04 , and the "kernel" upgraded with a hosed up desk top  ?
[21:13] <Ozera||> Anyone have an idea on how to install a win7 iso onto a usb using ubuntu 12.04 ? I tried winUSB which didn't burn the iso correctly and I also tried unetbootin which has an infinite boot sequence error . This is using ubuntu 12.04
[21:13] <JokesOnYou77> Bashing-om, ?
[21:13] <JokesOnYou77> Bashing-om, I'm ... not sure
[21:14] <theadmin> ZZRMike: okay I have no idea, haven't dealt with Intel cards under Linux, sorry
[21:14] <JokesOnYou77> Bashing-om, How do I tell?
[21:14] <ZZRMike> theadmin: thanks anyway, I'll do some more digging around, I can't be the first person using *ubuntu with this nic
[21:15] <Bashing-om> JokesOnYou77: What returns -> lsb_release -a , uname -r <- .. to see the release and kernel you are running.
[21:18] <theadmin> Ozera||: WinUSB works fine with legal Windows images, if you're using a pirated one you may run into issues though.
[21:18] <theadmin> I haven't had any issues with it, myself
[21:20] <dfosco> Hi, I have added a location to my clock applet, but when I press delete it doesn't go away.  Any ideas?
[21:20] <JokesOnYou77> Bashing-om, oh, I know my image version off the top of my head (I went through three versions while debugging his problem): 13.13.0-32-generic
[21:22] <Bashing-om> JokesOnYou77: OK, 13.13 is 'trusty'; so did you install 14.04, OR upgrade from 12.04 w/HES ??
[21:23] <JokesOnYou77> Bashing-om, I installed 14.04 server
[21:23] <Guest97258> cler
[21:24] <Guest97258> clear
[21:25] <Bashing-om> JokesOnYou77: Good, then that bug I referenced does not apply to you. W hat results when you boot the system to TTY1 .. and then from the terminal try and start GDM ??
[21:26] <ZZRMike> How do I tell ubuntu to use a different driver version for my network card?
[21:27] <JokesOnYou77> Bashing-om, It says started process then it gives a pid.  Then I get my prompt back.  And when I go back to the X view (whatever TTY7 is) it still shows the boot messages and at the bottom it shows Starting Gnome Display Manager    [Failed]
[21:27] <reisio> ZZRMike: the most straightforward way, IMO, is to uninstall or wholly disable the drivers you don't want to use, and do the opposite for those you do
[21:27] <reisio> ZZRMike: in Ubuntu that'd probably take the form of module blacklisting
[21:27] <OerHeks> !hcl > OerHeks
[21:29] <Bashing-om> JokesOnYou77: , not much to work with, huh .. Time to read the logs .. Take a read in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Anything there of note ?
[21:33] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: Still suffering? :(
[21:35] <TJ-> Bashing-om: My investigations earlier point to gdm not even trying to start X ... certainly no Xorg.0.log was being created... My thought was something in the GDM config files read by the init script was wrong
[21:35] <JokesOnYou77> Bashing-om, I started there actually. The error with gdm makes it so that X never actually gets started so the Xorg log never changes.
[21:35] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, you're back! MY hero!
[21:36] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: sorry... had to go make dinner :)
[21:37] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: Unfortunately I don't have any VMs here with GDM in so I can't test it
[21:37] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, Bashing-om I actually managed to get an X sessions with gnome to start.  But I can't get the gdm greeter, and the session that starts is under root.  I havne't been able to start X as me.  AND my .Xauthority file is owned by root.  I tried chowning it, and delting it but that didn't seem to fix the gdm problem
[21:37] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, :<
[21:39] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: what does this show? "pastebinit /etc/init/gdm.conf"
[21:40] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, What I'd really like is to be able to do is get print statements from the gdm start process
[21:41] <ImJune> now sound doesnt work at all
[21:41] <JokesOnYou77> TJ-, YOu read my mind, I've got it open in vim
[21:43] <ImJune> hmm
[21:43] <Novartis> What's the difference between .unix and .am?
[21:44] <JokesOnYou77> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7859416/
[21:44] <bekks> Novartis: In which context?
[21:44] <ImJune> If I roll back to an older kernel is it possible this sound issue may be resolved
[21:44] <curx> ? every time i hit startx for ubuntu it starts gnome  and i can't make out or see a damn thing how to fix pls!
[21:45] <jeffreylevesque> I have a windows machine.  I want to do dual boot.  I messed up the first time.  So, I'm wiping out the entire disk.  Might as well do things properly now.  Should I set up two disks?
[21:45] <Novartis> Trying to compile a daemon bekks, very unexperienced. Most tutorials are indicating I should make -f foo.unix, but I only have foo.am and foo.in to work with
[21:45] <bekks> curx: startx isnt used to start X for ages now. Use lightdm to start X.
[21:45] <Novartis> So I'm trying ./configure and some other things
[21:45] <reisio> Novartis: that is probably just meant to distinguish from a 'foo' that is not meant for unix
[21:45] <bekks> Novartis: File extension mean nothing in linux.
[21:45] <reisio> that is, 'make' the _unix version_ if there are multiple versions
[21:45] <reisio> many apps have different versions for different OSes
[21:46] <k1l> curx: start the lightdm and use the login screen to choose the desktop you want to run
[21:46] <ImJune> I will buy a USB sound card
[21:46] <ImJune> stuff this
[21:46] <reisio> ImJune: :)
[21:46] <reisio> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Configure_script
[21:47] <morgenman_> Hello! Can I get a reccomdation, I have a dell netbook with an atom processor and 1gb of ram and am currently running tiny7 on it. I have a hd with a plethora of hd movies in mp4 and mkv (regular and 10bit). I am going to be putting a media center distro, however I am not sure which one is the best for such low specs. Currently in the windoze, vlc will freeze up on pretty much any video larger than 480p {however wms plays my hd vid
[21:47] <curx> bekks k1l it's a screen rez error or undetected gpu or something
[21:47] <curx> is there a quick fix
[21:47] <Novartis> I've been looking at this reisio :) But I have no idea what .am or .in files are... But now bekks is saying that file extensions mean nothing so how do you even know what to compile without really reading into it?
[21:47] <bekks> curx: Not without telling us the exact, full error message.
[21:47] <k1l> curx: first make sure the file sin your /home belong to you user:user. then see what error that exactly is and show it to us
[21:48] <reisio> Novartis: usually there is a readme file
[21:48] <ImJune> crazy I install xubuntu on an old eee pc 1003hg (docomo model) it runs perfect fully functional
[21:48] <reisio> Novartis: otherwise it's just the commands there, './configure', 'make', and 'make install'
[21:48] <ImJune> 1,300 dollar machine and all these issues lol
[21:48] <morgenman_> how does it do on hd videos?
[21:48] <reisio> Novartis: alternatively, it could be quite a bad app that is hard to build :)
[21:49] <Novartis> Haha, that's possible, thanks Reisio :)
[21:49] <Novartis> And thanks Bekks ^_^
[21:49] <Ozera||> does anyone use unetbootin here?
[21:49] <curx> it's a previous hard drive for a old machine running a outdated distro of ubuntu  the screen rez and what not is not detected any suggestions ?
[21:50] <ImJune> I used unetbootin
[21:50] <ImJune> why
[21:50] <bekks> curx: Whats the exact, full error message?
[21:50] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: To debug the Upstart script, first do "initctl log-priority debug"
[21:51] <curx> is there a F key to hit to run in a safe mode
[21:51] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: Then try starting the service. I *think* the log goes to "/var/log/syslog" but I may be wrong there
[21:51] <Ozera||> ImJune, I tried using unetbootin for installing win7 iso onto my usb on a ubuntu 12.04 machine. When I from that usb, it gets stuck at unetbootin bootup menu
[21:52] <Ozera||> and it countdown from 10 to auto boot, but then it just starts the countdown again. Do you know how to fix/
[21:52] <curx> to dummy out my graphics card to make the screen rez somewhat usable
[21:52] <ImJune> I have only ever used that to install linux distros
[21:52] <bekks> curx: Whats the exact, full error message?
[21:52] <ImJune> I never heard of people using it to install windows
[21:52] <ImJune> can you burn a disc?
[21:53] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: To add complete line-by-line output to the gdm.conf Upstart job, at the top of the file (after comments) add "exec > /tmp/gdm.log 2>&1"  followed by  "set -x", save, and then try starting it and then check "/tmp/gdm.log"
[21:53] <Bashing-om> JokesOnYou77: See TJ-'s last 2 entries // also have you checked that all the files referenced in " /etc/init/gdm.conf " all all there ?
[21:53] <Ozera||> ImJune, I think my cd/dvd drive is broken. It won't recognize my dvd that I currently have in there
[21:53] <curx> bekks theres no error the drive was setup for a machine that had a small rez going into a bigger rez is there a dummy F key before boot so i can get some desent viewing screen when i boot gnome
[21:53] <Ozera||> DVD +R iirc
[21:54] <ImJune> oh no
[21:54] <k1l_> curx: rename the xorg.conf
[21:54] <ImJune> have you tried another disc
[21:54] <reisio> Ozera||: http://serverfault.com/questions/6714/how-to-make-windows-7-usb-flash-install-media-from-linux#answer-167060
[21:54] <k1l_> curx: but all that is just guessing. so get the demanded facts and error messages so you can actually recieve some help
[21:54] <ImJune> try that link he just posted
[21:55] <curx> thanks k1l
[21:55] <wooshmi> Hmm, guys, do you have any idea why my Software Updater for ubuntu is stuck on the launcher and I can't open it? (Just reinstalled 14.04)
[21:56] <Ozera||> reisio, ._. looks scary
[21:56] <nvidia> hi, how do I connect to a remote ubuntu machine (that is showing its login screen) graphically?
[21:56] <ImJune> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[21:57] <ImJune> found this
[21:57] <ImJune> wish they made one for 14.04 lts
[21:57] <morgenman_> hmm does anybody have a rec. for the mediacenter on crappy specs?
[21:58] <curx> sorry where is the xorg.conf file usualy located k1l
[21:58] <k1l_> /etc/X11/
[21:58] <reisio> Ozera||: it's very straightforward
[21:58] <Bashing-om> wooshmi: Any hints when updateing from the terminal ? -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade < -.
[21:59] <curx> sudo apt-get install update
[22:00] <wooshmi> Bashing-om: update returns "Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored or old ones used instead" and the upgrade doesn't do anything (0 upgraded / 0 ...)
[22:01] <pdo_fn14> wooshmi: are you using some dead repos?.
[22:02] <wooshmi> pdo_fn14: i've just added a repo in order to download smuxi - that's the only dead one
[22:02] <sydney> Why is ubutnu 14.04 so much slower than 12.04?
[22:02] <Ozera||> how do I isntall ms-sys after dling it from sourceforge?
[22:03] <Bashing-om> wooshmi: Well, that ain't good ..... can you pastebin the entire commands outputs , let's get things in context, see if we can find what the package manager is unhappy about.
[22:05] <wooshmi> Bashing-om: sure, I'm doing that right now. I'll send you the link
[22:05] <Bashing-om> wooshmi: k .
[22:06] <wooshmi> Bashing-om: here it is: http://pastebin.com/UJcmmzxB
[22:07] <Nivex> 14.04.1 is out (I see the CD images on the mirrors), but do-release-upgrade -c on a 12.04.4 box is still showing no upgrade available.
[22:07] <Bashing-om> wooshmi: look'n at your /UJcmmzxB .
[22:07] <TJ-> Nivex: waiting for the mirrors to sync I think, when Trusty appears in the meta list it'll be available: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts
[22:07] <ZZRMike> I created an ssh key using "ssh-keygen -t rsa" and then I on my server I went to ~/.ssh/ and appended the text from my public key to authorized_keys, but when I try to connect to my server it says "Permission denied (publickey)"
[22:07] <Nivex> TJ-: I've been mashing refresh on that URL already. :)
[22:08] <TJ-> Nivex: :) patience
[22:08] <ZZRMike> I'm assuming there's a step that I'm missing, but I can't figure out what it is =/
[22:08] <root___> thank u 1 million time k1l
[22:08] <Nivex> TJ-: I can only lose so many games of solitaire :)
[22:08] <curx> thank u k1l
[22:08] <TJ-> ZZRMike: Usually we transfer ssh keys using "ssh-copy-id"
[22:08] <curx> i have a screen again
[22:11] <Ozera||> I downloaded Unetbootin version 494, but how do I install it?
[22:11] <Ozera||> its an executable
[22:11] <Ozera||> or how do I run it
[22:11] <Bashing-om> wooshmi: "Err http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main amd64 Packages" and " Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/meebey/ppa/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found " // says we need to look at the 3rd pary fetches. ( bet it is s PPA that is not supported yet in trusty) .. pastebin -> tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* <- and let's see what we got.
[22:12] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: Did you "apt-get install gnome-shell" originally to get the GUI? I'm replicating your config here in a VM
[22:13] <Etale> Hi all, I'm back. If you recall I have a Lenovo T440p, and my installer was stuck on the logo
[22:13] <ZZRMike> TJ- I used that and it is still asking me for my user password upon login
[22:13] <Etale> Apparently, if I change the bios to Legacy, this no longer happens.
[22:13] <Etale> Is that a reasonable solution, just to keep it on legacy?
[22:13] <Etale> I want to dual boot with Windows 8.
[22:13] <ZZRMike> Etale: can you install in legacy mode and then reset bios after?
[22:13] <Etale> Another option there is to do "both" legacy and EFI, while trying Legacy first. Is that preferable? Are all of these options terrible?
[22:14] <Etale> Oh, maybe, ZZRMike...
[22:14] <TJ-> ZZRMike: So you copied over ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub ?
[22:14] <ZZRMike> TJ- Correct
[22:14] <David17059> Hello everybody-
[22:15] <TJ-> ZZRMike: first, try getting more debug info locally by using "ssh -vvv ..." If that doesn't give enough clues, on the server, check "/var/log/auth.log"
[22:16] <David17059> I'm having WiFi connectivity issues if anyone is able to assist, I'd Appreciate it immensely
[22:16] <David17059> I'm... a Linux noob lol
[22:16] <TJ-> Etale: Switching over to an EFI boot configuration is a rather convoluted operation
[22:17] <ZZRMike> David17059: What's your issue?
[22:17] <Etale> TJ-, ZZRMike, is there any downside to just staying with legacy forever?
[22:18] <ZZRMike> Etale: To be honest, I don't know. I would assume no, but my understanding of EFI is limited.
[22:18] <TJ-> Etale: It kind of defeats the point of EFI and might get annoying having to select between them, depends on how the UEFI firmware handles it
[22:19] <TJ-> Etale: As the disk is a GPT EFI bootable it'll default to to using EFI and starting the default OS
[22:19] <Etale> I don't understand anything. What is EFI even for? How is it helpful?
[22:20] <kikko> ciao a tutti
[22:20] <svip> Ben64: That upgrade did not go as smooth as I would have hoped... ;[ now when I log in, all I get is a black screen (I guess because my desktop background is black) with no panels or any error.
[22:20] <David17059> ZZRMike: I'm using an ubuntu based distro on an old netbook of mine. Though I was to do so before, I can't view any wifi networks only add them manually. (using the only network settings I can find "Edit Connections")
[22:20] <kikko> !list
[22:21] <TJ-> !efi | Etale
[22:21] <Bashing-om> Etale: For startrsd, support for larger hard drives, better partitoning, and is faster then 'legacy'when using UEFI (EFI) .
[22:21] <akurilin> What does it usually mean when you try to start an application from cmdline and you're told "Error: Can't open X display. It *is* running, yeah?"
[22:21] <akurilin> e.g. I can't use scrot right now
[22:22] <akurilin> Will work ok if I reboot
[22:22] <TJ-> Etale: when you had the system start the installer, were you able to 'lose' the splash and see kernel messages scrolling by until it froze?
[22:22] <svip> Changing session doesn't help either. :/  Same case with GNOME.
[22:22] <Etale> !efi
[22:22]  * TJ- wonders if that laptop has an issue with efifb (EFI FrameBuffer display driver)
[22:23] <ObrienDave> Etale, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface
[22:23] <Etale> So the downside to using legacy all the time is that the computer will be slower? Is that noticeable?
[22:23] <svip> It also said it couldn't load the splash screen, but I didn't consider that so problematic.
[22:24] <TJ-> Etale: Boot will be slightly slower, and more annoying since you'll have to manually select a BIOS-only boot (if the firmware allows that) to boot Ubuntu
[22:24] <TJ-> ubunt
[22:26] <ZZRMike> TJ- I tried running it with -vvv and it says "we sent a publickey packet, waiting for reply"  and then says "Authentications that can continue: publickey, password" then searches for other possible private keys and then reverts to password, any idea?
[22:28] <Pici> ZZRMike: Are the usernames the same on each system? If not, are you specifying the username in the connect string?
[22:29] <wojtekogarniamoc> mozna normalnie gadac tu ?:D
[22:29] <ZZRMike> Pici: same username, but I also tried specifying the username also
[22:29] <k1l_> !pl | wojtekogarniamoc
[22:30] <TJ-> ZZRMike: OK, so look at the server's "/var/log/auth.log"
[22:30] <Pici> ZZRMike: Do you have a password to the server? Typically I just trust ssh-copy-id to do the work for me if I can.
[22:32] <svip> How do I tell apt-get/aptitude to just remove all packages that depend on an abstract package?
[22:32] <ZZRMike> TJ-: I can't see anything that stands out, I've got "tail -f /var/log/auth.log" in another session
[22:32] <svip> Upgrading with texlive-full installed has made things rather weird.
[22:32] <svip> But I don't mind just getting rid of everything texlive for now.
[22:34] <Bashing-om> svip: How did you install 'texlive' ?
[22:35] <kikko> aiuto
[22:35] <kikko> non parlo inglese
[22:35] <svip> Bashing-om: apt-get install texlive-full
[22:36] <TJ-> ZZRMike: did you try removing the entry from authorized_keys and using 'ssh-copy-id' to put it back in?
[22:36] <ZZRMike> Pici: as in can I log in with a password?
[22:36] <Pici> ZZRMike: yes.
[22:36] <ZZRMike> TJ- no, I'll give that a try.
[22:36] <Bashing-om> svip: Then, if the package manager is in a hppsy state, one could do -> sudo apt-get remove texlive-full <- to remove it ( and leave the config files) .
[22:36] <kikko> italiano
[22:37] <svip> Bashing-om: That didn't work, so I just removed all the packages it was bothered about manually.
[22:37] <svip> Because it upgraded some of the packages, but not all.
[22:37] <svip> Bashing-om: I decided to purge, because I cannot really use tex configuration anyway.
[22:38] <codygman> What is an easy way to check the status of a running upstart program from a another upstart managed program? I know I could just use the output of the shell command "service programname status", but was wondering if there was a better way.
[22:39] <TJ-> codygman: It's usually "initctl status JOB" for Upstart only. 'service' handles sysV init scripts too.
[22:40] <Bashing-om> svip: OH no ! .. manually rm'n packages behind the package manager's back is not a good thing to do // What now returns from -> sudo apt-get -f install <- ?
[22:40] <codygman> TJ-: Oh okay.
[22:40] <svip> Bashing-om: No, I mean through the package manager, by telling specifically all the packages I wanted to remove.
[22:41] <ZZRMike> TJ-, Pici, figured it out, apparently ssh was configured to point at a different location for authorized_keys...
[22:41] <kikko> kikko(e.ballicu@gmail.com)
[22:41] <ZZRMike> Time to waddle over to the noob corner with my dunce cap
[22:41] <svip> Bashing-om: However, how do I step through the output of a command?  apt-get dist-upgrade is telling me it will delete 56 packages, but I cannot tell which.
[22:41] <svip> Scroll lock wasn't much help, because the output is simply too fast.
[22:42] <jackarius86> does anyone know why the reset command in aterm only resets what the screen is showing, and nothing before that?
[22:42] <Bashing-om> svip: OK, much better // So the PM removed texlive // yes ? .. now what is the particular problem ?
[22:42] <Etale> Okay, I'm back. To remind you I'm doing a dual boot Ubuntu Windows. I'm in the installation now. I'm at the stage of determining partitions. Should I allocate a partition to swap, or is that automatic?
[22:43] <ZZRMike> Etale: this is the guide that I used and it seems to have worked well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQzmI_30nJM
[22:43] <Etale> Thanks
[22:44] <kikko> !list
[22:44] <TJ-> ZZRMike:  :)
[22:45] <kikko> !bot
[22:45] <kikko> !alis
[22:46] <Etale> omg the music, ZZRMike!
[22:47] <svip> Bashing-om: That I cannot see what is going to be removed.
[22:47] <svip> Bashing-om: Because it is above the terminal's size.
[22:48] <svip> I don't just accept a dist-upgrade removing 52 packages without knowing what they are.
[22:48] <svip> But without X running, there are no scroll bars or whatever, I am just in a tty.
[22:48] <Etale> Okay, so he makes one which is ext2 mounted on boot that is only 256MB in size? Should I also have mine that small? Or does it depend on how much RAM I have? (Which is a lot: 16GB)
[22:48] <Etale> Sorry, 248MB.
[22:50] <Bashing-om> svip: Whoh, that much to be removed, can not be a good thing ! how about something like -> sudo apt-get remove -s texlive-full > go.txt <- which will "simulate" what it will do and post that info to the txt file 'go.txt' . Yeah, best look real close !
[22:50] <Etale> 65GB should be more than enough for the windows partition, right?
[22:51] <svip> Bashing-om: Ah, that worked.
[22:51] <svip> Bashing-om: By the way, I am past texlive now, and moved onto dist-upgrade.
[22:52] <Bashing-om> svip: Like you, we really want to know why that much and what is to be removed .. why oh why !
[22:53] <svip> Bashing-om: Eh, most of it was old packages, like apache2 and ubuntuone.
[22:53] <ProfessorKaos64> I saw the report that kernel 3.13.0-32 was released, but when I go to upgrade, it is held back. Is there a dependency I am missing?
[22:53] <Bashing-om> svip: Before 'dist-upgrade' have you run update and regular upgrade commands ?
[22:54] <svip> Bashing-om: Of course.
[22:54] <svip> I looked at the list of packages to remove, none of them worry me.
[22:55] <svip> They are just related to all sorts of utils I've installed, like ghostscript and imagemagick.
[22:55] <svip> None of them are system critical.
[22:57] <imduffy15> Hi all. I'm wanting to authenticate pam users against active directory. I have a few odd requirements though, 1) the machine cannot join the domain. 2) active directory can not be extended with unix identity management to expose a posix ldap. Any solutions?
[22:59] <Bashing-om> svip: Great ! Good to go, huh .
[23:01] <Bashing-om> ProfessorKaos64: To install the 'held' kernel; terminal commands -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade , sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <- .
[23:02] <ProfessorKaos64> ah dist upgrade, ok. It didn't seem to solve the sony hid regression anyway. I did an "install -y kernel.. blah blah" and specified the packages
[23:02] <ProfessorKaos64> that worked, but I got a black screen on reboot
[23:02] <ProfessorKaos64> restarted as was fine
[23:03] <Bashing-om> ProfessorKaos64: It's 'buntu, many roads to an end. Glad it worked out for ya.
[23:03] <ProfessorKaos64> Didn't fix this bug, but I was hopeful https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1326725
[23:03] <ProfessorKaos64> Another user report it may have, but I must have read it wrong (at the end by the ps3 user)
[23:04] <Bashing-om> ProfessorKaos64: Lemme have a read of it, see what pops into my mind.
[23:05] <ProfessorKaos64> ok, my rents are coming back down to my house, the last few comments are where the latest is, I'm nano_ex3 there
[23:05] <ProfessorKaos64> Could you send a PM to me if you find anything? I appreciate the help. I won't miss the PM vs. channel chatter
[23:06] <kingsley> How would you try to restore a missing mouse pointer and gnome task bar after upgrading? For what it's worth, I seem to recall having to configure the computer to use an old version of gnome to render all characters the last time I upgraded because the computer is old and underpowered.
[23:07] <vexati0n> it's 2014, old computers are illegal.
[23:13] <kingsley> vexati0n: I appreciate the irony.
[23:16] <Bashing-om> ProfessorKaos64: Not a thing I can add, looks like we got to wait for the smart folks to make the patch.
[23:18] <uniqdom> guys... i want to install debian in a laptop. It is an Acer, with Windows 8. I'm in the installation, in the partition step. the hdd already have 4 primary partitions. 1: ntfs 629MB, 2: efi 314MB, 3: ntfs 482GB and 4: ntfs 16GB. How to proceed?
[23:18] <uniqdom> i mean ubuntu* ...
[23:19] <uniqdom> should i resize 3, and create an extended partition? is that going to work?
[23:19] <Bashing-om> uniqdom: I am Winows Illitterate, but, Win8 = UEFI =GPT partitoning, and that 4 primary partitons no longer applies.
[23:19] <noob> help! I don't see the unity luancher
[23:19] <noob> *launcher
[23:20] <ramza099> ehllo can i get help here
[23:20] <Guest87567> i lost the unity launcher somehow
[23:20] <uniqdom> sure you can
[23:20] <uniqdom> Bashing-om: you mean that i can have 5 primary partitions?
[23:21] <ramza099> i try to install ubuntu from live cd but it screen flashes then it gets to desktop and its too blurry to see
[23:21] <ramza099> 14.04, processor amd a6-3620, radeon hd 6530d graphics
[23:22] <Bashing-om> uniqdom: Yepper .. and more .. MBR booting had that 4 primary partitions limitation .. UEFI does not .. boot up in UEFI mode and the installer should do just fine .
[23:22] <plop> my unity launcher is missing.
[23:23] <ramza099> i tried to lookup this problem but i cant find a answer
[23:23] <uniqdom> so can i resize partition number 3, and create a new primary partition there?
[23:23] <plop> something got changed and i don't know what
[23:24] <Bashing-om> ramza099: What is the graphics situation ? hybrid ? Nvidia ATI intel ? ...
[23:25] <ramza099> its a onboard ati
[23:26] <ramza099> hd 6530d graphics
[23:26] <plop> ....
[23:27] <Bashing-om>  ramza099 ATI, try booting with the "nomodeset" boot option: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 <- How to set NOMODESET and other kernel boot options in grub2 .
[23:28] <ramza099> ok ill look into that now
[23:28] <BhAwN> hey guys
[23:29] <uniqdom> Bashing-om, is it ok to set the bootloader to /dev/sda?
[23:31] <plop> i lost my icons and stuff on ubuntu. help. I tried everything. sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[23:31] <Bashing-om> plop: Maybe: to set compiz (unity) back to defaults use -> dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ <- , Then reload with...-> setsid unity < -.
[23:32] <BhAwN> hey guys
[23:32] <BhAwN> am new to irc thing
[23:32] <BhAwN> what is it good for?
[23:32] <plop> ok, will try
[23:33] <Bashing-om> uniqdom: Nope ... on bootloader IF UEFI should have a .efi partition for the bootloader. Bootloaader to 'sda' would apply for MBR booting !
[23:34] <uniqdom> ok :)
[23:34] <ramza099> where and when do i type nomodeset?
[23:34] <Jeffrey_f> BhAwN: IRC is like instant messaging, just with groups of people of common interest.
[23:34] <Bashing-om> BhAwN: IRC is many talk to many at the same time .. on any of thousands of channels.
[23:35] <BhAwN> so how do we find messages in this clusterfuck
[23:35] <BhAwN> all text
[23:35] <BhAwN> i can't even see my own messages
[23:35] <daftykins> BhAwN: first off please keep the talk family friendly, secondly, unfortunately this is a channel for ubuntu support only - not general chat. Please visit #ubuntu-offtopic or #freenode to talk about IRC in general
[23:35] <Jeffrey_f> BhAwN: are you chatting on the web interface or via a chat client??
[23:35] <Bashing-om> !language | BhAwN
[23:35] <BhAwN> Xchat
[23:36] <BhAwN> Okay. Sorry
[23:37] <Bashing-om> ramza099: Have you been able to boot up the liveDVD to the desk top ? and now you want to install the release ?
[23:37] <plop> that did not work
[23:38] <plop> any other ideas
[23:38] <ramza099> whenever i run live dvd i cannot see desktop its so blurry its unreadable
[23:38] <plop> compiz is broken somehow
[23:38] <Bashing-om> plop: A resolution issue ? in that the launcher is - of the screen - ??
[23:39] <plop> the resolution is fine i see the desktop background
[23:39] <plop> its the icons and stuff that are missing
[23:39] <plop> i can't even right click
[23:40] <plop> i could move the mouse
[23:41] <plop> im using my laptop to chat while my computer has a broken unity
[23:41] <Bashing-om> ramza099: OK, driver issue .. boot the liveDVD, soon as the bios screen clears depress the right sshift key -> language screen, escape key to accept the default -> boot options screen -> F6 key for the presets -> choose "nomodeset" space or enter to accept and then the escape key to exit; enter key to continue the boot process.
[23:43] <DJJeff> http://i.imgur.com/bq1xfNe.png
[23:43] <DJJeff> does this no longer work in 14.04?
[23:43] <DJJeff> having eth0:1 in /etc/network/interfaces
[23:43] <ramza099> ok im going to try
[23:45] <DJJeff> # ifconfig eth0:1 up
[23:45] <DJJeff> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address
[23:45] <DJJeff> not very detailed of an error
[23:51] <plop> i tried this http://askubuntu.com/questions/465216/unity-launcher-icon-edges-disappeared-in-14-04
[23:51] <plop> nothing works
[23:54] <Jeffrey_f> help version
[23:54] <plop> i tried this, too. http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[23:56] <Bashing-om> plop: Maybe " And a final note: the old "unity --reset-icons" command which resets the Unity Launcher icons to default still works with Ubuntu 14.04, 13.10 and 13.04. " ??
[23:56] <plop> i tried that, too
[23:56] <plop> I'll try again
[23:57] <daftykins> plop: i take it you tried a guest account and saw everything fine there?
[23:57] <svip> Why can't I hold down alt to drag windows? O_o
[23:57] <plop> no, did not tried that
[23:58] <plop> i get connection refused in some places when i typed unity --reset-icons
[23:59] <plop> let me try the guest account and see.