| elfy | knome: updated the torrent links | 06:17 |
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| elfy | ochosi: ^^ | 06:18 |
| ochosi | thanks a bunch elfy! | 09:30 |
| knome | elfy, cheers | 10:25 |
| brainwash | is this a regression caused by the recent xfpm sru update? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2236184 | 12:07 |
| bluesabre | shouldn't be. The update doesn't change the functionality of xfpm, and keeps the default setting of letting logind do its own thing | 12:10 |
| bluesabre | if the system is suspending on lid close, it's logind | 12:11 |
| bluesabre | right ochosi ^ ? | 12:11 |
| ochosi | lemme check, currently distracted | 12:13 |
| brainwash | just noticed this forum thread, made me wonder | 12:13 |
| ochosi | just read through that now | 12:23 |
| brainwash | the thread starter mentions that this was caused by a very recent update | 12:24 |
| elfy | also mentions systemd - if they're running with systemd - do they get the same issue if running upstart | 12:25 |
| brainwash | but it's xubuntu 14.04 | 12:25 |
| elfy | but we use upstart not systemd - no-one uses systemd at present - other than those testing it | 12:26 |
| brainwash | they call it systemd, but it's only logind | 12:27 |
| elfy | aah ok - not read it properly | 12:27 |
| brainwash | so we got this one report here, maybe it's indeed a regression, maybe not | 12:28 |
| brainwash | at least the black screen madness is fixed now :) | 12:28 |
| ochosi | i can't look at the exact changeset for xfpm now as i'm focussing on other things atm, but this shouldn't be a regression | 12:32 |
| ochosi | all it should do is let logind handle the suspending in case it's also set to lock the session | 12:33 |
| ochosi | but if you set it to not suspend, it should still follow that setting | 12:34 |
| brainwash | ok then | 12:36 |
| ochosi | so xfpm should take precedence in all cases but one, which is if it is set to suspend+lock, then it'll let logind do its thing | 12:39 |
| brainwash | oh.. bug 1347272 | 12:40 |
| ubottu | bug 1347272 in dbus (Ubuntu) "DBus communication problems affecting multiple packages" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1347272 | 12:40 |
| brainwash | some sort of meta bug report | 12:40 |
| brainwash | marked as critical... | 12:42 |
| brainwash | where is ali1234? =S | 12:43 |
| bluesabre | yay, a bug report that reports existing bugs | 12:43 |
| elfy | bluesabre: just double checking that mugshot has changed to only use a camera or browse now? | 12:50 |
| elfy | testcase is still referring to slect from stock | 12:51 |
| bluesabre | elfy, select from stock is only visible when the stock photos directory is present (there is a gnome package that installs these items) | 13:04 |
| elfy | ok - so in general for US it is not? | 13:05 |
| bluesabre | yes, unless we want to add some faces at some point :) | 13:05 |
| bluesabre | /usr/share/pixmaps/faces/ | 13:05 |
| elfy | ok - we can change the test when/if that happens | 13:06 |
| bluesabre | cool | 13:06 |
| elfy | in the meantime - elfy reports testcase bug and fixes it :p | 13:06 |
| bluesabre | :D | 13:06 |
| elfy | sigh - seems that mimetypes or something are all mucked up somehow - text file default is abiword | 13:15 |
| brainwash | right, we were thinking about this, gdm installs some stock photos for gnome | 13:15 |
| elfy | purging abiword to deal with that | 13:16 |
| brainwash | elfy: clean user account? | 13:16 |
| elfy | brainwash: we might be thinking about it - but at present the option doesn't appear in mugshot | 13:17 |
| elfy | this is more or less a clean account | 13:17 |
| elfy | sigh now it wants to use lo writer | 13:17 |
| brainwash | what a mess :) | 13:17 |
| elfy | yep | 13:18 |
| elfy | installing windows to deal with it | 13:18 |
| knome | i've always felt like mime type associations never were the strong selling point of *any* OS... | 13:18 |
| elfy | mmm - so properties on the file is pointing to mousepad | 13:19 |
| bluesabre | elfy, fixed released: bug 1347705 | 15:51 |
| ubottu | bug 1347705 in shimmer-themes (Ubuntu) "Split theme packages do not properly declare conflicts" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1347705 | 15:51 |
| bluesabre | but, maybe not built in the archive yet... | 15:57 |
| elfy | awesome - I'll wait for it :) | 16:01 |
| ochosi | great bluesabre, thanks! | 16:13 |
| bluesabre | it's in the archive now | 16:27 |
| elfy | upgraded those | 16:52 |
| elfy | it's formatted / to ntfs - is that right :p | 16:53 |
| bluesabre | :D | 18:45 |
| Unit193 | Going to release the release announcement? | 18:45 |
| bluesabre | We probably should at some point, eh? | 18:48 |
| bluesabre | ochosi knome elfy ^ | 18:49 |
| knome | i dunno | 18:49 |
| knome | has somebody from the release team "signed off" that the article is okay? | 18:49 |
| knome | i can publish it if ACK'd | 18:50 |
| bluesabre | is the photo caption css fixed? looks to be wider than the photo | 18:50 |
| knome | any photo should have the same issue, so... | 18:50 |
| elfy | I'm not sure if it should have ALL of the stuff from the lts release announcement | 18:52 |
| elfy | not had time to fiddle with it anymore | 18:52 |
| ochosi | me neither, but otoh it doesn't hurt | 18:52 |
| knome | we need pleia2 for a css fix | 18:52 |
| ochosi | from my pov it's okayish, but i have little xp with release announcements | 18:52 |
| ochosi | g2g | 18:53 |
| ochosi | ttyl | 18:53 |
| elfy | well it's got the correct dl link in it and the sru fixes | 18:53 |
| bluesabre | Yeah, everything looks good to me | 18:54 |
| elfy | bluesabre: you're editing it - can you blitz all the other efforts and thanks bit from it | 18:54 |
| knome | i'll do a manual fix for the image | 18:54 |
| bluesabre | not editing now | 18:54 |
| knome | ...once sean releases the edit lock ;) | 18:54 |
| knome | says to me you are | 18:55 |
| elfy | and me | 18:55 |
| knome | please leave the edit page whenever you're not editing | 18:55 |
| bluesabre | knome, feel free to destroy as elfy indicated above | 18:55 |
| bluesabre | I left | 18:55 |
| bluesabre | and logged out to make sure | 18:55 |
| knome | the image is manually fixed now | 18:56 |
| knome | it looks crap in the editor | 18:56 |
| knome | but who cares! | 18:56 |
| knome | i've also left the edit page | 18:56 |
| elfy | telling me you've not | 18:57 |
| knome | lol | 18:57 |
| knome | just go ahead | 18:57 |
| knome | and let's see if it saved the stuff or not ;) | 18:57 |
| elfy | all done | 18:58 |
| knome | yep, now it tells me you are editing | 18:58 |
| elfy | lol | 18:58 |
| elfy | just go ahead | 18:58 |
| elfy | :p | 18:58 |
| knome | nope | 18:59 |
| knome | i'm all fine | 18:59 |
| knome | just hit publish once you are done | 18:59 |
| elfy | looks ok to me then | 18:59 |
| elfy | published | 19:00 |
| elfy | I suppose front page should reflect .1 | 19:00 |
| * Unit193 waits for http://xubuntu.org/news/category/news/ | 19:01 | |
| Unit193 | knome: Hope you don't mind. | 19:02 |
| knome | what page? | 19:02 |
| knome | oh, front | 19:02 |
| * knome facepalms | 19:02 | |
| knome | elfy, better? | 19:05 |
| knome | Unit193, great, ta for #x | 19:05 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: care to update http://xubuntu.org/news/screen-locking-in-xubuntu-14-04/ with the post-bugfix fix details? | 19:06 |
| elfy | thanks knome :) | 19:11 |
| knome | np | 19:11 |
| knome | hmm | 19:16 |
| knome | i was thinking | 19:16 |
| bluesabre | careful | 19:16 |
| knome | we sometimes have some people join from the webchat asking the simplest question(s) | 19:16 |
| knome | what can we do to offer them the information on the website so they don't have to join IRC? | 19:17 |
| knome | or can we do anything about that? | 19:17 |
| bluesabre | http://xubuntu.org/news/category/faq/ | 19:17 |
| bluesabre | We don't update that very often, but maybe we can add something to that with general questions/answers | 19:18 |
| elfy | how simple a question is it | 19:18 |
| knome | yeah, but a link to another page is a bit meg | 19:18 |
| knome | *meh | 19:18 |
| SkippersBoss | Evening, sorry to interrupt. People will aways ask before looking into docs and manuals | 19:18 |
| bluesabre | :) | 19:19 |
| bluesabre | indeed | 19:19 |
| elfy | yep | 19:19 |
| bluesabre | or before typing on google | 19:19 |
| knome | elfy, i don't have anything specific in mind.. but i was thinking something what's in the FAQ or docs | 19:19 |
| SkippersBoss | precisely. | 19:19 |
| elfy | well | 19:19 |
| elfy | given that I've spent 7 years seeing that on the forum - you can lead a horse to water | 19:19 |
| elfy | I would prefer that *our* faq is specific things | 19:20 |
| knome | well i can't... ;) | 19:20 |
| SkippersBoss | so update the bot may be an answer to lead them to the right documentation | 19:20 |
| knome | new users do not know anything about the bot | 19:25 |
| elfy | they don't need to if I understand what SkippersBoss means | 19:25 |
| elfy | ! somefactoid to point them at a resource | 19:25 |
| ubottu | elfy: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 19:25 |
| elfy | oh do behave | 19:26 |
| SkippersBoss | Precisely | 19:26 |
| SkippersBoss | but lazyness also does play a part | 19:26 |
| elfy | yep | 19:26 |
| SkippersBoss | Internet can be a scary place if you want to look for a solution to - what we perceive to be an easy - problem | 19:28 |
| knome | maybe i don't understand either of you, or either of you don't understand me | 19:33 |
| knome | what if a new user comes to the channel, asks a question but nobody is available to control the bot? | 19:33 |
| knome | (or reply more naturally...) | 19:33 |
| elfy | there is that | 19:33 |
| elfy | but still - you could have a page anywhere you want - doesn't follow that they'll see it, read it, take any notice | 19:34 |
| elfy | and still ask the question | 19:34 |
| SkippersBoss | What we are trying to say is that there will always be people who are going to as first before cheicking out the docs | 19:34 |
| SkippersBoss | exactemundo | 19:35 |
| SkippersBoss | You cannot cater for every event | 19:35 |
| SkippersBoss | and you want to be careful that the docs are not covering every possible question and become cumbersome to manage/read | 19:36 |
| SkippersBoss | Besides you are aware that in http://xubuntu.org/help/ you admit yourself that IRC "is often the fastest way to get help. " | 19:44 |
| SkippersBoss | <ducking> :-) | 19:44 |
| Unit193 | I just read "bestest" there. :D | 19:44 |
| bluesabre | maybe we could add more details to the channel welcome message? | 19:44 |
| Unit193 | Meh, people don't read that or the topic. | 19:44 |
| SkippersBoss | U see my point. You have indicated there is documentation and IRC support . You also have indicated that there might not be some around to help them immediately | 19:48 |
| SkippersBoss | Speaking of the FAQ, I have the last listing as per May 2013 ? Is this right ? | 19:52 |
| bluesabre | the screen locking page could also be linked there when updated | 19:54 |
| elfy | and inxi | 19:55 |
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