[00:05] <nfk> I used manual partition layout to have swap on an lvm2 logical volume and during boot it takes something like 10 seconds for the system to find the swap partition to check for a resume image - surely it taking this long can't be normal
[00:24] <DarthFrog> nfk:  How much RAM do you have?
[00:27] <nfk> 2GB
[00:29] <DarthFrog> Hmm, you probably need swap with that amount.
[00:29] <nfk> since when is ram a concern when talking about lvm and clearly early into the boot?
[00:29] <nfk> are you trolling me?
[00:29] <DarthFrog> If you have plenty of RAM, you don't need swap.
[00:29] <DarthFrog> I have 16 GB and no swap.
[00:29] <nfk> i just said it takes a long time during boot sequence to find the swap
[00:30] <nfk> and i don't need it for swap, i need it for hibernation
[00:30] <DarthFrog> I'm wondering why you included it in the LVM volume and not its own partition?  Or is it a swap file in that volume?
[00:30] <nfk> no, i made it a logical volume, is that so unique?
[00:30] <nfk> i'm pretty sure i have been doing that for years
[00:31] <DarthFrog> Unique?  Can't say.  Additional unnecessary overhead?  Definitely.
[00:32] <nfk> no, overhead is your presence on IRC
[00:32] <DarthFrog> OK, have fun.
[00:59] <SavageCat_FTP> Hello. How do I install a patch file to the /usr/src/ directory? I'm trying to get a Genius graphics tablet to work properly on Kubuntu and I hope that install this patch to the kernal does it. I can't seem to paste or create anything to root.
[01:55] <ChogyDan> hey guys, when I log out, I just get a blank screen.  I would like to get to the user login screen
[02:50] <sebastian__> hello?
[07:49] <imie> Hello. Is Kubuntu 14.10 with KDE 5 Plasma usable?
[07:57] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:09] <soee> imie: yes it is
[08:27] <Johnny> hi
[08:28] <Guest72326> I have a big problem on installing kubuntu, and my laptop is crashed, anyone can help?
[12:40] <imie> Hello. I installed KDE on Ubuntu, and want to hide Ubuntu-specific apps in Start Menu, all at once. How can I do it?
[12:42] <7JTAADD4U> @imie you probably just have to right click on kicker startmenu and then on edit menu entries
[12:42] <7JTAADD4U> there you can hide and move them all the way you want
[12:43] <imie> 7JTAADD4U: But I don't want to unistall them.
[12:43] <imie> 7JTAADD4U: I want still be able to run them under Unity DE.
[12:43] <7JTAADD4U> that does not uninstall them
[12:43] <7JTAADD4U> that just hides them from the kde startmenu
[12:43] <7JTAADD4U> should not affect unity at all
[12:44] <imie> 7JTAADD4U: Go to Apps -> Internet and RMB on anything - there is no option to "hide"
[12:44] <7JTAADD4U> no you need to right click on the icon of your kicker startmenu
[12:45] <imie> 7JTAADD4U: Now i get it. Thank You
[12:46] <7JTAADD4U> @imie should look similar to this http://www.linux-community.de/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/internal/artikel/print-artikel/easylinux/2009/03/k-wie-kde-und-komfort/abbildung-2/756131-1-ger-DE/Abbildung-2_lightbox.png
[12:48]  * alberto just installed kubuntu 14.04
[12:48] <alberto> any suggestion of what software is a *must* for normal desktop usage? i got a ATI card.
[13:02] <ivan__> ubuntu-it
[13:03] <ivan__> kubuntu-it?
[13:04] <Graf_Westerholt> !it ivan__
[13:04] <ivan__> for italian channel who is the channel
[13:04] <Graf_Westerholt> !it | ivan__
[13:14] <tygrys> yo
[13:20] <alberto> !it | alberto
[13:20] <alberto> !es | alberto
[13:44] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[15:38] <skinux> I'm trying to execute a .run file, but it keeps saying access denied
[15:38] <skinux> I already chmod 755 and +x the file
[15:45] <skinux> If I try using sudo it says command not found
[15:49] <BluesKaj> skinux, use the package manager to install sudo
[15:49] <skinux> sudo is already installed
[15:51] <qdata> make any difference if you sudo sh ./therun.run (assuming you're in the same directory)
[15:51] <skinux> It's actually a .bin file
[15:52] <skinux> However, that resulted in a syntax error
[15:53] <qdata> well .run is usually a script and .bin are either data or executable binaries
[15:54] <skinux> Is this case, I'm sure it's an executable binary, but it's not executing
[15:56] <qdata> could be any number of reasons for it, one of the most semi-common is it is corrupted by a downloading glitch in ftp
[15:58] <skinux> Second attempt is downloading a .run file. I don't know how I got a .bin file, but I did.
[15:59] <skinux> Are .run files encoded scripts or are they easily readable using text editor?
[15:59] <qdata> another is libraries it's linked against are either different on your machine from the one it was built on, or missing entirely, though mostly when I've seen that a program will start then immediately sgfault
[16:00] <qdata> if a .run is a script you can open it in a text editor and read it
[16:00] <skinux> I've opened .run files before and saw what looked like a bunch of encryption or something.
[16:01] <qdata> the very first line at the top should have a line that defines its interpreter
[16:02] <qdata> but I', no expert either, just trying to give you some ideas
[16:04] <qdata> but most of the time I've had a problem like that it was either mangled in the process of obtaining the file or it was bad on at the source in the first place
[16:05] <qdata> ughh - can't type today - need another coffee.....
[16:38] <skinux> I know why it is. The download link shows .run, but it downloads a .bin file. I renamed to .run and ran through sh. It found a syntax error.
[17:33] <dan_> Just installed and updated 14.04. I have enabled kwallet and created/opened a wallet but K network manager (plasmoid) isn't saving my wifi passwords
[17:34] <dan_> I have noticed that NM isn't listed as an app connected to or authorized to connect to kwallet but I don't see any way to add it
[17:36] <dan_> Surely ONE of you is using wifi? :)
[17:37] <dan_> I suppose I could try reverting to an older NM version say from 13.04 but I'd prefer to get the current version working if possible
[17:38] <BluesKaj> dan_, i don't use kwallet, but wifi pw is enabled in NM here on 14.10
[17:40] <dan_> BluesKaj: I'd prefer not to use kwallet if NM could remember passwords without it but thats not the case
[17:41] <BluesKaj> dan you can turn kwallet  off if you wish
[17:42] <dan_> BluesKaj: The prob is getting NM to reember passwords. It doesn't with/without kwallet
[17:44] <BluesKaj> I understand that
[17:45] <dan_> Have we not got any 14.04 wifi users in here? I can't use wicd as I need tethering support
[17:49] <BluesKaj> dan_, which security are you using ?
[17:50] <dan_> WPA/WPA2 personal
[17:52] <dan_> NM doesn't offer to store passwords no can I see any such options to enable that
[17:54] <BluesKaj> dan_, is there a NM icon in the system tray
[17:54] <BluesKaj> ?
[17:56] <dan_> yes
[17:57] <BluesKaj> if so click on it then choose the wrench icon to manage connections, then add in the wifi tab and then the security tab, which should show password fielf
[17:57] <BluesKaj> field
[17:58] <BluesKaj> field rather
[17:58] <BluesKaj> ... detting tired
[17:58] <BluesKaj> err
[17:58] <dan_> Yes, I know about that but its blank, even though I'm connected (I jhad to type it in to connect)
[18:00] <BluesKaj> guess you should file a bug then
[18:19] <victor> asad
[18:20] <victor> helo
[18:20] <BluesKaj> hi victor
[18:25] <victor> what is the activity manager of kubuntu
[18:27] <dan_> victor: Hit CTRL+ESC
[18:29] <victor> thx dan
[18:29] <victor> i didnt knew that
[18:30] <victor> activity manager is wich process?
[18:30] <victor> kactivitymangaer?
[18:30] <victor> kactivitymangaerd?
[18:34] <aguitel_> how disable automatic upgrades?
[18:43] <victor> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[18:46] <BluesKaj> aguitel_, turn them off in muon
[18:48] <aguitel_> BluesKaj:  a ok thanks
[18:51] <dan_> How do I manage kded modules?
[18:57] <abhi_rsd_> my bluetooth headset does not set to a2dp
[18:58] <abhi_rsd_> it plays on telephony
[18:58] <abhi_rsd_> with  inferior quality
[20:56] <lolmaus> How do i make Konsole be a login shell?
[20:59] <lolmaus> Currently i have to do `bash -l` every time i start Konsole and that's annoying.
[21:26] <__dan__> hi guys was wondering if any of you can help me disable one of my mouse buttons on kubuntu 14.04 ?
[21:27] <__dan__> maybe an odd request I know, it's a bluetooth mouse, I got a command that works (xinput set-button-map) but would like to apply the settings permanently
[21:28] <__dan__> i made a udev rule that triggers but doesn't seem to work - everything i find on the net seems to be 4+ years old and figured i would come here and see if i could get some help in this decade :) thx
[22:07] <lolmaus> Hey __dan__
[22:07] <lolmaus> Just create a file under:
[22:07] <lolmaus> /etc/X11/Xsession.d
[22:09] <lolmaus> For example, /etc/X11/Xsession.d/81disable-middle-mouse-button
[22:09] <lolmaus> And put your `xinput set-button-map` there
[22:09] <lolmaus> Don't forget to +x the file.
[22:10] <__dan__> lolmaus: oooo that sounds way easier than every solution I've been considering :)
[22:11] <__dan__> will that trigger on boot or when i pair the mouse though?
[22:11] <lolmaus> __dan__: oh... I think it will trigger on boot.
[22:11] <lolmaus> But it might still be persistent.
[22:12] <lolmaus> Ok, no need to +x. It's sourced, not executed.
[22:12] <__dan__> one way to find out :)
[22:13] <__dan__> yeah none of the others are +x
[22:28] <__dan__> lolmaus: tbh not sure this is gonna work but i will give it a reboot anyway, brb :)
[22:28] <__dan__> lolmaus: either way appreciate your time
[22:45] <__dan__> lolmaus: no joy mate :( thx for trying tho, think i will continue down the udev route tbh, will keep you posted
[23:37] <TeraJL> i'm trying to decide between kubuntu and netrunner but i don't see any place talking about the advantes of any of those, any idea?
[23:53] <__dan__> TeraJL: although I haven't looked at netrunner in some time, it seems (if you're comparing the standard netrunner release) there is very little difference between them
[23:53] <__dan__> just some tweaked defaults and extra software by default
[23:54] <__dan__> looks quite nice but personally i just stick with kubuntu and tweak it how i like it