[11:49] <melodie_> hi
[11:51] <melodie_> I have something to say about the quality in Ubuntu, which would not be even distro specific, but I don't know where to port that : the Category line in desktop files through the different Desktop Managers and through the applicaitons is a HUGE MESS !
[11:52] <melodie_> I have fired Xubuntu in Virtualbox to see something, and seeking for the language-selector to put it into my language, I realized that the menu entry is not there though the program is installed
[11:53] <melodie_> what the heck? I have looked into the destop file and of course a long list of categories, but nothing that allows it to display in the Xfce or Whiskermenus! and what about Synaptic? I installed it, but I can try to launch it, it won't start! something wrong with pkexec not started in Xubuntu
[11:53] <melodie_> this is Trusty, and LTS it is supposed to be working out of the box.
[11:53] <melodie_> and the desktop files through all the distros I know of are a mess
[11:54] <melodie_> this is something which should be done straight, in order to provide a good user experience, not a mess looking into /usr/share/applications each time a program is not found in the menus
[11:54] <melodie_> thanks for reading and passing the message.
[22:13] <average_guy> when I am testing an iso and the installer crashes, how can I go in and retrieve the log file?  I just filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1349007  and I am wondeing how I could possibly attach more useful information to my reports.