=== chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [11:49] hi [11:51] I have something to say about the quality in Ubuntu, which would not be even distro specific, but I don't know where to port that : the Category line in desktop files through the different Desktop Managers and through the applicaitons is a HUGE MESS ! [11:52] I have fired Xubuntu in Virtualbox to see something, and seeking for the language-selector to put it into my language, I realized that the menu entry is not there though the program is installed [11:53] what the heck? I have looked into the destop file and of course a long list of categories, but nothing that allows it to display in the Xfce or Whiskermenus! and what about Synaptic? I installed it, but I can try to launch it, it won't start! something wrong with pkexec not started in Xubuntu [11:53] this is Trusty, and LTS it is supposed to be working out of the box. [11:53] and the desktop files through all the distros I know of are a mess [11:54] this is something which should be done straight, in order to provide a good user experience, not a mess looking into /usr/share/applications each time a program is not found in the menus [11:54] thanks for reading and passing the message. === _salem is now known as salem_ === salem_ is now known as _salem === zequence_ is now known as zequence === mhall119 is now known as mhall119|upgradi [22:13] when I am testing an iso and the installer crashes, how can I go in and retrieve the log file? I just filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1349007 and I am wondeing how I could possibly attach more useful information to my reports. [22:13] Launchpad bug 1349007 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Packages.gz corrupt during utopic-daily amd64 mini.iso install" [Undecided,New]