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Myrttihttp://www.denofgeek.com/tv/doctor-who/31460/peter-capaldis-first-doctor-who-story-to-get-cinema-release00:05
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mappsyo05:07
daftykinsmornin05:09
mappssup05:11
mapps:D05:11
daftykinshmm trying to work out why ubuntu doesn't give me any sound devices with this HP craptop05:12
mappsdafty05:12
daftykinsalso my cat is going manic _nuts_ playful right now O_O05:12
mappswhy is shoutcast giving streamurl as my old ip05:13
mappsive changed the conf file05:13
mappschecked what its reading05:13
mappsany ideas:(05:13
daftykinsnever dealt with it before, so newp05:13
mappsany ideas in general05:14
mappswhy it might be caching or ignoring updated conf05:14
mappslike any linux thing05:14
daftykinsi reckon it's hardcoded on some config you've missed05:27
mappscan ishow u my config and that?05:28
daftykinswell if the old IP doesn't show up in it, i'd be hard pushed for any ideas :D05:30
mappsk:(05:30
mappsthught maybe i missed something05:31
mappscant see it though05:31
daftykinsare you grep'ing the first octet?05:34
mappsfrom where05:34
daftykinsthat'd be the easiest way if it's a long config05:34
daftykinswell, "grep 9x configfile"05:34
mappssec05:34
daftykinsassuming '9x' would be the first part of your old IP05:37
mappshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7862610/ -- shows the shoutcast processes and the files05:38
mapps part of your old IP05:38
mappshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7862611/05:38
mappsshows the config and youll see its the one its readng05:38
mapps:<05:38
daftykinslog give any clue?05:39
mappsnah05:41
mapps:(05:41
mappsits running05:41
mappshttp://frogs.zapto.org:8000/index.html?sid=105:41
mappsbut you can see streamUrl is wrong05:42
daftykinsmapps: why don't you log in on that page and check the settings05:47
mappsi have05:47
mappsi cant figure anything out05:47
mappsi tried force reload config and it just stops05:48
daftykinsserver login or admin login?05:48
mappson shoutcast? tried both05:48
daftykinswell there's got to be something in there05:49
mappssec05:49
daftykinsit's clear it's being configured somewhere - and statically too, given how it's not changing :>05:49
mappsyea05:49
mappsthe password is in the pastebin05:49
mappswanna try?:P it wont be any diff05:50
mappsi dont get whats happening mate05:50
mappsthats my old IP havent had it since i switched from o205:50
daftykinsthat file before you pastebin'd, was it /home/shoutcast/shoutcast/sc_serv_basic.conf ?05:54
mappsyeo05:55
mappsmark@frogs:~$ cat /home/shoutcast/shoutcast/sc_serv_basic.conf | pastebinit05:55
mapps100%05:56
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brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:59
foobarryubuntu alternate install is confusign sometimes09:58
foobarryneed to do it three times because it often runs ahead without partitining stage10:00
foobarryconfigure raid, about to do lvm,  suddenly installing packages,10:01
foobarryhaving a nightmare trying to install grub onto a machine after cofniguring sw raid10:44
foobarryseems realted to GPT10:56
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foobarryugh #127432012:12
foobarrybug 127432012:13
lubotu3bug 1274320 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "Error: diskfilter writes are not supported" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127432012:13
* popey waves13:16
Myrttiooh, finally it works13:20
Myrttithanks popey13:20
popeywat?13:26
* popey has been afk for a week so no idea what's going on ☻13:26
Myrttioh, now it's gone the other way13:28
Myrttipopey: irssi 0.8.17rc is what's going on13:29
popeyye olde irssi here13:29
foobarrywww13:29
popey.oO( I should probably update )13:30
foobarryugh lag13:30
* Myrtti compiled hers few days back13:30
foobarryMyrtti: is it going to the repos?13:30
Myrtti0.8.16 is backported in Debian wheezy13:30
* foobarry realised his irssi is on a centos5 server. meh13:31
Myrtti0.8.17rc is just a rc13:31
Myrttithanks foobarry13:31
Myrttithat works now then too.13:31
foobarrymy wife phoned from the wool show. gushing with excitement13:33
Myrttihehe13:40
MyrttiI'm just happy I didn't go, I've got enough to spin13:40
popeythats probably the longest I've been away from irc for some years13:40
foobarryshe bought some carders and will buy the wheel online13:40
Myrttiand my spinning mojo has taken a dent recently so I've not spun for a good while either13:40
foobarrypopey: spain?13:40
popeyfoobarry: isle of wight13:43
foobarrysame kind of weather last week \o/13:44
foobarryworried the sunshine will run out by 2 aug13:45
foobarrywhen i'm in devon13:45
PendulumMyrtti: Is there actually such thing as "enough" wool?14:09
Myrttiof course there is. When you don't know what you'd do with them, then you've got too much.14:10
PendulumI assume you mean you don't know what you'd do once having spun it? Sell the extra. I suspect you can get a decent price for handspun wool, even more if you dye it. (I have a couple friends who've done this)14:13
popeyczajkowski: did you fix your laptop?14:19
czajkowskipopey: nope :(14:21
czajkowskibeen a long week of oddness14:21
czajkowskibeen working wiht the unity devloper all week14:22
czajkowskicannot get the debugging symbols to work14:22
czajkowskipopey: I may be paying you a visit this weke14:22
popeyczajkowski: ok! ☻14:22
czajkowskipopey: lunch will be on me!14:23
popeyhah ☻14:23
czajkowskipopey: or come here and have hens and a lamp dog to entertain you14:23
czajkowskiif you fancy hiding from the kids14:23
czajkowskiany day bar Monday14:23
popeymay well do that!14:23
popeydirecthex: how are the excitible states?14:37
directhexhot14:37
popey\o/14:38
popeyhot here too14:38
daftykinsdirecthex: did you actually move there? :o14:46
directhexdaftykins, just working out of the boston office until tuesday14:47
daftykinsooh fancy14:47
daftykinsguys, any thoughts on an HP G6000 laptop, with an nvidia MCP67 chipset. lspci doesn't even show up its' onboard audio14:47
daftykinsno BIOS options about onboard audio, loaded defaults anyway14:48
daftykinsthere seems to be talk of people messing with alsa versions online, but this device is missing in both 12.04 and 14.0414:49
directhexnot in lspci is pretty major14:53
directhexeven devices with no drivers should be in lspci14:53
daftykinsmmm14:53
daftykinsi did just have it completely apart, but i doubt audio is something that's separate14:54
daftykinshttps://www.dropbox.com/s/9tjsw2vfrsix8os/IMG_20140726_164909.jpg15:54
daftykinsnow there's how to cope with this weather15:54
SuperEngineerhmmm - so nor paying corporation tax helps cope with the weather huh?.... must give that a try sometime15:57
SuperEngineersub nor/not15:57
daftykinswhat do you mean?15:58
daftykinsthat branch being on Guernsey would likely be operating outside of UK jurisdiction anywho :)15:59
SuperEngineerbut of course, it all makes sense now... why didn't I think of that....16:00
SuperEngineerNOT!16:00
daftykins:D16:00
daftykinsare Costa being sneaky and getting around taxes, in England or something?16:01
SuperEngineerOn a lighter mood... been annoyed by missing the skype notification icon - but no time to fix16:01
SuperEngineer1 search in browser, 1 follow appropriate link, 1 easty fix16:02
SuperEngineer...& 1 big thank you to Ask Ubuntu16:02
daftykinsyay :D16:03
daftykinsi'm playing find the missing audio device16:03
daftykinsconfirmed not present across ubuntu and windows, so it's got to be hardware16:03
SuperEngineerdaftykins: don't bother... I've got your missing audio device here & holding it to ransom16:03
SuperEngineer;)16:04
daftykinsyou scoundrel!16:04
daftykinsWARNING - Sector repair completed: port=7, LBA=0x3FFFFFD216:07
daftykinssomeone i know has a dead disk again16:07
SuperEngineerSomeone I know [that ugly bloke in the mirror actually] is hunting for graphic equaliser s/w - suggestions anyone?16:12
SuperEngineer[copying/converting old cassettes onto hard disk - doing it via Audicity - but need to "improve" some of the sound16:13
daftykinsi'm no use there i'm afraid16:14
SuperEngineerthanks anyway16:17
daftykinshmm this laptop is now peaking at 70 deg C under load16:17
daftykinsnot bad for a 65nm Athlon64 X216:17
SuperEngineerdaftykins: 1/ start task 2/ put it in the fridge 3/ be impressed ;)16:24
SuperEngineer[4/ say bye bye to all the perishable food!]16:24
daftykinsthat's actually a fine temp for a 65nm thing of this age16:25
* SuperEngineer puts match under work's laptop to see if it it helps [it'll certainly help *me* :D ]16:26
daftykinshaha, is it old?16:27
SuperEngineernope - but it's got the spec of an OLD machine!!16:27
SuperEngineer[power it on - wait 10 mins for available desktop!]16:28
SuperEngineer...& we're s'posed to be a tech company!16:28
SuperEngineer[pity they didn't tell the a'hole who got conned by HP]16:29
daftykins:S16:30
daftykinssure there's no hardware fault?16:30
SuperEngineernone - & proved.  Only hardware fault is it's spec16:30
SuperEngineer[or lack of spec]16:30
daftykinshow bad are we talking?16:31
SuperEngineerbad enough for every engineer & area manager to agree with me16:31
SuperEngineer[not bad for a multi-national tech company huh?]16:32
daftykins:D16:33
daftykinspenguin42: hi sir o/ good day?16:33
penguin42excellent16:34
* penguin42 has been to a mini Makers fair, ManLUG and is full of ice cream16:34
penguin42what could be better?16:34
daftykins:D16:34
daftykinssounds good16:34
penguin42and yourself?16:35
SuperEngineerpenguin42: what would be better is if you sent me some of that ice cream [pre-digestion of course]16:35
penguin42SuperEngineer: You can get some from http://www.gingerscomfortemporium.com/16:36
daftykinspenguin42: living on a funky time sadly, so barely up and showered before taking a look at this HP laptop i've been dealing with, that has lost its' onboard audio O_O doesn't even show up in lspci16:36
penguin42daftykins: Hmm that's odd16:36
daftykinsnaturally, no enable/disable BIOS entries... i even updated it just now, reset to defaults... swapped the hard disk and confirmed it's gone in Windows too16:37
daftykinsi really don't know what to think16:37
daftykinsi did have it completely apart for resolving overheating16:37
daftykinshttps://www.dropbox.com/s/ztneywnqgg4un4w/IMG_20140725_184221.jpg16:37
penguin42that's odd because it's at least partially in the chipset16:38
MyrttiI've said this before and I'll say it again, I hate thrips16:38
penguin42daftykins: intel cpu/chipset?16:38
daftykinsone part of which was removing that front edge header, but i sincerely doubt that board is more than a headphone + mic jack breakout board16:38
daftykinspenguin42: AMD Athlon64 X2 on an nvidia MCP67 chipset16:38
daftykinstypically it seems people would see an nvidia high definition audio controller device16:38
daftykinsi see nothing at all16:38
penguin42daftykins: does /sys/class/sound/card* exist at all?16:40
daftykinsi'm prime95'ing in Windows at present, but can reboot to see... would that also be equivalent to my knowledge of "aplay -l" giving 'no soundcards' ?16:40
penguin42daftykins: Probably16:41
penguin42daftykins: But yeh it is odd for it to disappear from the lspci - assuming that's how it appeared before16:42
daftykinssadly i didn't even know if audio was working prior to my taking it apart16:42
penguin42yeh that's when it gets tricky16:42
daftykinsthe owner's ubuntu install does have youtube video history in browsers16:42
daftykinsso you'd think they'd not watch videos without sound :D16:42
penguin42daftykins: Do you have old /var/log/messages?16:43
daftykinspenguin42: i'll fire up her old install and see what that has :) thanks16:43
daftykinsi've a feeling i'll be taking it apart again, but i doubt there's anything to be seen or done inside16:44
daftykinsmy pics aren't quite complete enough to show16:44
daftykinspenguin42: there's the set in case it may give you any ideas - https://www.dropbox.com/sh/sdew7skkm4nqvtu/AAA0XrUF4J0Cd2pmw3lSCaZ6a16:44
penguin42daftykins: Two things come to mind 1) I assume it's not stupid enough to hide it when you use the keyboard mute/projector/some other combo (!)  2) That cable to the front headphone sockets seems to have an awful lot of wires16:45
daftykinshmm that's worth a try, let's try the Fn+mute combo16:47
daftykinsseems more software layer in my experience though16:47
daftykinsLOL16:48
daftykinsoh my word.16:48
daftykinsso just then i quit prime95 and shutdown Windows, considering to swap for the original HDD16:48
daftykinsbooted back up...16:48
daftykins"new hardware found"16:48
daftykinsoh look a modem, an audio controller and an audio device :)16:48
daftykinsthat really is odd.16:49
penguin42daftykins: Hmm, the modem is often combined - it's all soft16:50
daftykinssuch quirky things :)16:51
daftykinsfor the longest time this system was taking 45+ seconds to get from POST logo to booting the OS16:51
daftykinsturned out to be a dead DVD, i've ordered another from ebay for £9.9916:51
daftykinspenguin42: thanks for your insight regardless :) lets see what ubuntu does now16:52
daftykinsi installed 14.04 whilst in this state, so i wonder if it'll just appear automagically16:52
SuperEngineerdaftykins: only if you clap your heels together twice whilst rebooting... if you don't.... welll -don't blamre me16:55
penguin42daftykins: Actually, something else you can try power it off, and then boot ubuntu; see if it finds it, if it doesn't try booting windows and then back into windows16:57
daftykinsto see if it's Windows provoked, yeah good plan16:57
daftykinsjust powered off and swapping drive back now16:57
penguin42daftykins: Well I was wondering if Windows is settings something up/loading firmware16:57
daftykinsnow, do i boot 12.04 or 14.04 first :>16:59
daftykinsi went as far as installing an nvidia proprietary driver thinking it might enable the device16:59
daftykinsyeah got a startup sound just then :)17:00
daftykinsthere it is, exact PCI bus identifier i expected it should come up on too17:00
daftykinshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7867104/17:01
penguin42don't let it escape!17:01
daftykins:D17:02
* daftykins nails it down17:02
daftykinsvery pleased that's sorted :D17:04
daftykinsstill no idea what to do with this old machine though17:04
Myrttihttps://flic.kr/p/othe3C18:55
Azelphurthat's a lot of dead trees18:56
Myrttiits also lovely for a weekend breakfast or garden evening18:57
Azelphurindeed :)18:57
MyrttiI don't subscribe for the weekday ones18:57
daftykinsi don't even read the single free local paper i get weekly18:57
AzelphurI won magnets at a tombola, I'm happy. XD18:58
MyrttiI don't read our two either18:58
daftykinsi missed my favourite local event :(18:58
daftykinsdidn't know the day it was on!18:58
penguin42?18:58
Myrttimost of it is just ads and especially real estate ads18:59
Myrttibut Guardian doesnt seem to disappoint ever18:59
Myrttigood story about Evan Davis today19:01
Myrttiand tomato recipies19:01
Myrttihttps://plus.google.com/100833008366289253433/posts/D95SSuaXcY919:02
maps|wrkback19:09
maps|wrkbusy working hard as ever19:09
maps|wrk:D19:09
daftykins;)19:09
maps|wrkdebating reinstalling shoutcast19:09
maps|wrkor going with icecast19:10
maps|wrktough decisions19:10
maps|wrk:)19:10
daftykinslol19:11
daftykinsjust get it done19:12
maps|wrkhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-2705324/How-travel-private-jet-cost-commercial-flight.html19:13
maps|wrkneatttttt19:13
penguin42you need to get a group together for it19:18
maps|wrkfly like a VIP19:19
maps|wrkyea just came on my private jet19:19
maps|wrk:D19:19
daftykinsjets are apparently tough to buy lately due to too many rich Russian oligarchs and so on19:19
daftykinsaccording to someone i know whose daughter works for the owner of Specsavers (Specsavers started in Guernsey, little fact for you ;) )19:20
maps|wrk;)19:28
maps|wrkah well il be ok not in the market for one any time soon19:28
daftykins:D19:29
daftykinsmaps|wrk: this laptops audio miraculously appeared of its' own accord \o/19:29
maps|wrkhahaha nice19:30
maps|wrkwhat OS19:30
daftykinsseveral :) the device had disappeared in them all19:30
maps|wrkhow odd?19:31
daftykinsindeed!19:31
Azelphuryay, magnets. https://www.dropbox.com/s/qstk382okouwxa4/2014-07-26.jpg19:35
Azelphurwon it at a tombola today, had to play with it :x19:35
daftykins:D19:35
Azelphurand now I have a cool looking phone stand, so win win19:35
daftykinsDustin of Arizona has once again visited Best Buy and signed up my email address to his retail shenanigans19:36
daftykinshe shall pay for this insult19:36
maps|wrklol19:37
maps|wrkwhats your email like name@aol.com :D19:37
foobarryi get the same problems19:38
AzelphurI get loads of bounced mail in my inbox from people spoofing my domain :<19:38
foobarryUS political parties, job interview, the lot19:38
maps|wrkim just curious what domain Azelphur  and what is the user for the email daftykins  ? ones people are liely to use19:38
maps|wrksomename@obviousdomain?19:39
Azelphurmaps|wrk: azelphur.com19:39
maps|wrkhm19:39
maps|wrkspoofing it..do you mean just fillng forms in with x@azeplphur or something more sinister?19:39
Azelphursomeone continually spoofs [hex-string]@azelphur.com to spam people \o/19:39
Azelphurmaps|wrk: email does no verification on the sender, you can set the "from" address to anything you want19:39
maps|wrkyea19:40
daftykinsmaps|wrk: yeah <first initial><surname>@provider - tonnes of people in the US have the same with a digit after it, i was the first so they keep messing up and putting mine in19:40
daftykinsi've managed to track down one to her place of work once19:40
penguin42Azelphur: I think some of the domain key stuff is supposed to help that now but not tried19:41
daftykinsshe kept doing it after apologising and a long break, signing up to online purchasers thinking i'd keep politely forwarding the emails19:41
maps|wrkah19:41
maps|wrkyou got a common name eh:D19:41
daftykinsso what i did was used the sites' password reset and cancelled her orders.19:41
foobarrylots of people forget they are fred.oobarry instead of foobarry@19:41
Azelphurpenguin42: makes no difference19:41
daftykinsnah it's a pretty rare surname as it goes 0o19:41
Azelphurafaik19:41
foobarrydaftykins: not always possible given the amount i get19:41
daftykinsfoobarry: *nod*19:41
daftykinsi like to go on my little revenge missions19:42
maps|wrkooh19:42
maps|wrknot steve jones19:42
maps|wrkor something19:42
maps|wrkheh19:42
maps|wrkhmm domain key eh,19:42
foobarryarrghararara19:46
foobarrywoops. lag, sorry19:46
foobarryhow do you display subtitles in ripped movies? have i screwed up?19:46
daftykinswhat format? what's your player? was it handbrake?19:46
daftykinshere be variables19:47
foobarryhandbrake19:47
foobarrydvd->mp4 high prpfile19:47
* foobarry sobs quietly19:48
daftykinsdepends if that profile specifies any subtitle setup really19:48
daftykinsactually i don't know if mp4 as a container supports subs19:48
daftykinsi know matroska does (mkv)19:48
foobarry:'(19:49
daftykinsuse something like mediainfo to read the file and see what it contains19:49
foobarryHard Burn: This means the subtitles are written on top of the image permanently. They cannot be turned on or off like on the DVD.19:50
foobarrySoft Subtitles: This means the subtitles will appear as separate selectable tracks in your output file. With the correct playback software, you’ll be able to enable / disable these subtitles as required.19:50
foobarryHard Burn: This means the subtitles are written on top of the image permanently. They cannot be turned on or off like on the DVD.19:50
foobarrySoft Subtitles: This means the subtitles will appear as separate selectable tracks in your output file. With the correct playback software, you’ll be able to enable / disable these subtitles as required.19:50
foobarrywoops. terrible lag19:50
daftykinser, you're looping19:50
daftykinsheh19:50
daftykinsi've only ever heard of it termed hardcoded and softcoded19:50
foobarryhandbrake supports subtitles ripping but looks like i didn't do it19:50
daftykinsit's probably off as default, yeah19:50
foobarryboo19:51
daftykinsfoobarry: here be dragons, because when you select a subtitle set... one English will be "every word spoken" and one will be "only the foreign language bits"19:51
foobarryhmm19:51
foobarryso for forgein films? (i have a lot of these)19:51
foobarryah ok, i get it19:52
daftykinsnah like when someone foreign speaks19:52
foobarryso burned in for that maybe19:52
foobarrybut foeign films then produce a separate file19:52
daftykinsfoobarry: you might be able to just rip the subtitles from the disc now, and create a softcoded external subtitle file (such as .srt, or many other file extension types)19:52
daftykinsthen you can tell your player to load it19:52
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daftykinsfoobarry: or even just look the film up online, should be freely available types19:53
foobarrywould they be synced? i suppose19:53
daftykinsif they were the same edition yeah19:53
daftykinse.g. standard vs. director's cut or some such19:53
foobarrymy sw raid taking many hours to sync19:54
foobarry32% atm19:54
penguin42foobarry: Is it set to limit the resync rate or is it just huge?19:56
foobarry3tb in RAID119:56
foobarrystarted around lunchtime19:56
foobarryso par for the cours19:56
foobarryhad and awful time with GPT and RAID and GRUB19:56
penguin42oh, not tried that combo19:57
penguin42grub2?19:57
foobarryyeah19:57
foobarryhad to create a 1Mb partition on /dev/sd* (not the raided bit)19:57
penguin42I think I've got GRUB ok on RAID1 I did earlier this week, but not GPT19:57
foobarryobviously didn't have that space so had to start again19:57
foobarrygrubinstall wouldn't work otherwise19:58
daftykinsi like keeping RAID as storage only to avoid OS troubles19:59
foobarryi moved off usb today20:01
foobarrywhich was fialyfail20:01
foobarryyay the subs work, if slightly out of sync by 1sec or so20:01
foobarrydownloaded some20:01
foobarryoften need subs for america programmes too20:02
foobarrydue to recent trend of whispering and mumbling in films made by hollywood20:02
* penguin42 notes foobarry is getting old20:03
foobarryheh20:03
foobarryi was born old20:03
maps|wrkhttp://frogs.zapto.org:8000/listen.pls?sid=120:04
daftykinsi know what you mean, i often sit there on my XBMC HTPC hitting 'back' to try and catch what was said20:04
maps|wrkworking now20:04
maps|wrkCurrent Song:Aphex Twin - London-Rock Witch Next Song:Prince - The Ballad Of Dorothy Parker20:04
maps|wrkallthis time it was to do with the authhash key dafty LOL and not my config20:04
maps|wrk:D20:04
maps|wrkexplains why me editing the configs didnt fix it20:04
foobarrywatching the bonus features on hitch hikers bbc series20:06
foobarrythis is why i got plex :D20:06
daftykinsmaps|wrk: O_O how'd you find out?20:07
maps|wrkplex?20:07
maps|wrkgoogled something like shoutcast streamurl20:07
maps|wrkit was so long ago id forgotten about authhash and how its used for the shoutcast directory and the station name etc20:07
foobarryplex is a app for streaming media from your home srever20:07
foobarryzaphod had 2 penises?20:09
daftykinsi don't remember that!20:09
foobarryyou don't see them in the programme20:10
foobarrybut they were there20:10

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