[00:01] <plop> guest session is broken, too. All black screen and all i see is the mouse pointer
[00:02] <Bashing-om> plop: daftykins :: Reinstall the desk top ??
[00:02] <rocko2_> my name is greg burton
[00:03] <plop> i did sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[00:03] <rocko2_> I did apt-get install anarchism
[00:03] <rocko2_> fosho
[00:03] <rocko2_> new ops
[00:04] <sammy> oh so hrm. I wonder why my battery/power applet as well as fn brightness controls would disappear randomly, and reappear after a reboot
[00:04] <Bashing-om> plop: Good. I had in mind -> sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop <- .
[00:04] <sammy> in xfce, btw. though I guess I could fire up gnome or unity but I think its some special samsung-tools driver or otherwise specific laptop-py type thing that isn't getting loaded?
[00:05] <plop> ok let me reboot and see
[00:07] <plop> did not work
[00:07] <plop> :(
[00:07] <plop> what do i do???
[00:11] <plop> anyone??
[00:11] <plop> solution? broken compiz missing launcher
[00:12] <Beldar> plop, what launcher and some history leading to this please.
[00:13] <plop> im missing my launcher and icons on ubuntu. The mouse pointer is still there but i can't even right click
[00:13] <Beldar> plop, some history leading to this please.
[00:13] <plop> i tried sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[00:14] <FlyingAce> Hey is the ubuntu download server down? the link just stays on loading is there any offical mirrors for the ubuntu Iso?
[00:14] <Beldar> FlyingAce, what release?
[00:14] <plop> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html
[00:15] <FlyingAce> the newest release (non beta)
[00:15] <daftykins> FlyingAce: try http://releases.ubuntu.com or http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/
[00:15] <ProfessorKaos64> If I update a kernel to a higher version in Ubuntu, would 'apt-mark hold linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic' hold the kernel release and prevent it from being upgraded/downgraded?
[00:15] <Beldar> FlyingAce, http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/
[00:15] <plop> http://askubuntu.com/questions/465216/unity-launcher-icon-edges-disappeared-in-14-04
[00:16] <plop> there's the history. read the links
[00:16] <plop> or open them
[00:18] <plop> will sudo apt-get update fix this?
[00:18] <daftykins> all update does is update package lists
[00:18] <plop> can i install them some how?
[00:18] <daftykins> 'them' ?
[00:19] <plop> the package lists
[00:19] <plop> sudo apt-get install update?
[00:20] <FlyingAce> Hmm still cannot get it to load Beldar  trying this version (32 bit) http://releases.ubuntu.com/trusty/  upon clicking the link it's just saying "connecting" in an infinite loop
[00:21] <plop> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  # Installs updates
[00:21] <plop> this blows
[00:21] <plop> why did the compiz went crazy?
[00:22] <plop> I was using codeblocks and everything was fine
[00:23] <plop> hopefully updating ubuntu will fix this
[00:23] <daftykins> plop: what was the guest session result?
[00:23] <daftykins> i doubt it
[00:23] <plop> fail
[00:23] <daftykins> if it didn't work in the guest session, something is up with your install
[00:23] <plop> everything was black besides the mouse pointer
[00:23] <daftykins> plop: run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[00:23] <plop> i did
[00:23] <daftykins> plop: also tell me your version
[00:24] <plop> ubuntu 14.04
[00:24] <daftykins> 64-bit?
[00:24] <plop> yes
[00:24] <plop> installing update now
[00:24] <ramza099> hello i was just here i tried to follow instructions and im getting this
[00:24] <daftykins> installing what? you said you'd already run it
[00:24] <ramza099> Could not open "\EFI\BOOT\fallback.efi
[00:24] <FlyingAce> great never mind I got it to download it was just firefox being a douche for some reason which is odd cannot believe IE could download it but firefox didnt want to lol
[00:24] <plop> im running sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:24] <daftykins> FlyingAce: good news.
[00:25] <daftykins> plop: ok, how much is it getting?
[00:25] <plop> a lot
[00:25] <ramza099> is there any other way install ubuntu this is so hard and nobody will reply to my forum post
[00:25] <plop> 12%
[00:25] <daftykins> plop: how big did it say, size wise?
[00:25] <ramza099> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2236258
[00:25] <plop> 5,912 kb
[00:26] <daftykins> !nomodeset | ramza099
[00:26] <daftykins> ramza099: it would be nice if you could take a picture of this 'blurry' image with a camera to share
[00:26] <daftykins> plop: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[00:26] <daftykins> (once you're done)
[00:26] <plop> ok
[00:26] <Cosmologicon> Really basic question, so ELI5: I'm running an Ubuntu server. The lighttpd version in the repo is 1.4.28, and I want a bugfix that appears in 1.4.32. What should I do? Install from source? Or is there like some other repo I can get it from?
[00:27] <ramza099> yes but i dont know where to nomodeset and when i tried press right shift after bios im not getting anything
[00:27] <daftykins> Cosmologicon: what do you mean 'ELI5' ?
[00:27] <plop> but how can i pase anything here? im using my laptop and my computer has ubuntu with broken compiz
[00:27] <plop> *paste
[00:27] <daftykins> ramza099: i linked you to the webpage of how to learn how to do this, click the link above
[00:27] <Cosmologicon> daftykins: Explain like I'm 5. I use Ubuntu but I'm pretty bad at it.
[00:27] <daftykins> Cosmologicon: what version are you on?
[00:27] <ramza099> i looked at it i dont understand
[00:28] <daftykins> plop: my command will do it, then you copy the link it produces and share the link here.
[00:28] <plop> ok
[00:28] <ramza099> it doesnt tell me where to type nomodeset
[00:28] <plop> the update is 1hr long
[00:28] <Cosmologicon> daftykins: 12.04 precise
[00:29] <daftykins> ramza099: YES it DOES. scroll down to "How to enable kernel options..."
[00:29] <ramza099> yeah i read that i dont think im getting that screen i go stright to grub
[00:30] <daftykins> Cosmologicon: ultimately, if you've already upgraded and that's the latest version you've got... you'll have to wait until someone creates a package with a newer version. Or, you could install a newer version of ubuntu and that may include it
[00:30] <daftykins> ramza099: ok, so you get GRUB's menu?
[00:30] <Cosmologicon> daftykins: the version I want is from Nov 2012. Will I be waiting long?
[00:31] <ramza099> yes i do get to grub
[00:31] <daftykins> Cosmologicon: i have no way of knowing, you could look for a PPA of the software you want but it will not be supported by us. type !ppa for more info
[00:31] <Cosmologicon> !ppa
[00:32] <Cosmologicon> daftykins: thanks I'll check it out
[00:32] <xangua> Cosmologicon: trusty has version 1.4.33
[00:32] <daftykins> ramza099: ok, so now go into advanced options, highlight the newest kernel and press the letter 'e' to edit, then where it says "quiet splash" add "nomodeset" after it and hit F10 to reboot
[00:32] <Cosmologicon> xangua: awesome thanks. looks like I should just update the os
[00:32] <daftykins> *nod*
[00:32] <daftykins> Cosmologicon: what kind of system is it? VPS? physical box at home?
[00:32] <Cosmologicon> daftykins: vps
[00:32] <ramza099> hmm ok let me try that thank you so much
[00:33] <daftykins> er, F10 to boot, not reboot
[00:35] <mdbgarcia> Help please .. I m not speak english  and im lokinfor channels brazilians
[00:36] <daftykins> mdbgarcia: #ubuntu-brazil ?
[00:36] <daftykins> !brazil
[00:36] <mdbgarcia> tks
[00:36] <daftykins> ah ^
[00:37] <ne0> hi
[00:38] <daftykins> ne0: hello, ask a question if you have one
[00:39] <ramza099> ok im back i tired it, i typed nomodeset after splash and it set it did not reconize the command
[00:40] <daftykins> ramza099: give it another try following this - http://askubuntu.com/questions/38780/how-do-i-set-nomodeset-after-ive-already-installed-ubuntu
[00:42] <ramza099> ok im going try again
[00:45] <ramza099_> im back it wont let me do the shift it just shows could not boot efi bott fallback
[00:49] <Bashing-om> ramza099_: Maybe: You are booting in UEFI mode, and you did the actuall install in MBR mode ? such that now the boot manager is looking for boot code that does not exist ???
[00:50] <daftykins> seems likely
[00:51] <qwerkus> I everyone; this is an nth question about win7 messing up grub. I have a dual boot win7 - latest ubuntu in EFI, and each and every time I boot up win 7,  it screws up grub to the point I can start without a live usb stick. Any Ideas / known issues ?
[00:51] <qwerkus> *can't - sorry
[00:52] <Aki-Thinkpad> I'm about to install the dev version of ubuntu, and I am trying to free up space on my ssd. my disk analyzer shows only 16 gb used, but my 80 gb ssd only shows 37 gb available. What happened to the other 25 gb?
[00:52] <Aki-Thinkpad> I deleted some files externally from a live cd
[00:53] <Beldar> ramza099_: Have the mods change your thread header to include uefi and run the bootrepair the boot info summary only not the repair and post that in your thread. Post the url of that summary here as well. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[00:53] <daftykins> Aki-Thinkpad: we do not support the dev version (14.10) in here, please join #ubuntu+1
[00:53] <Aki-Thinkpad> daftykins, read my post; this isnt about the dev version
[00:53] <daftykins> Aki-Thinkpad: i did read it, but just be aware.
[00:53] <Beldar> Aki-Thinkpad, You can't delete files from the live.
[00:54] <Beldar> reboot it
[00:54] <Aki-Thinkpad> Beldar, so where did they go?
[00:54] <daftykins> Aki-Thinkpad: pastebin your "df -h"
[00:54] <Aki-Thinkpad> I did.
[00:54] <Aki-Thinkpad> okay
[00:55] <Beldar> Aki-Thinkpad, Did you delete files from the install using the live?
[00:55] <Aki-Thinkpad> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7860730/
[00:55] <Aki-Thinkpad> while I was live, I sudo'd nautilus, went into my 14.04 filesystem, and deleted a bunch of movies and stuff
[00:55] <daftykins> Aki-Thinkpad: line 1 should answer your queries
[00:56] <daftykins> er line 2 even
[00:56] <Aki-Thinkpad> daftykins, stop trying to help me; you didnt read the initial post
[00:56] <daftykins> yes i did
[00:56] <Aki-Thinkpad> Then you misunderstood. I realize what it says
[00:57] <Aki-Thinkpad> but when I do a disk analysis, it only accounts for 16 gigs
[00:57] <daftykins> is there a particular reason why you believe presenting attitude will work well for you?
[00:57] <daftykins> so what does the disk usage analyser show?
[00:57] <daftykins> what does a "du -h" in your ~ say as the total size?
[01:00] <Aki-Thinkpad> daftykins, What attitude?
[01:00] <daftykins> waiting for an answer
[01:02] <Aki-Thinkpad> daftykins, 6.6 gigs
[01:03] <Aki-Thinkpad> http://i.imgur.com/UlNy8Eu.jpg
[01:04] <Aki-Thinkpad> Anyways, I found the answer; the items were placed in the trash trash
[01:04] <rypervenche> Good ol' Ubuntu
[01:04] <Aki-Thinkpad> :P
[01:05] <daftykins> Aki-Thinkpad: you should delete via command line in future
[01:05] <daftykins> and never use sudo with graphical applications
[01:05] <Aki-Thinkpad> daftykins, Thanks. You should also be a bit slower to recommendation, to make sure you understand the issue.
[01:06] <daftykins> Aki-Thinkpad: you're lucky you got responses at all, don't you dare give me that attitude
[01:06] <Aki-Thinkpad> What attitude?
[01:06] <daftykins> goodbye.
[01:07] <krzychu> how to instal video and audio codec on linux ?
[01:07] <krzychu> hi
[01:08] <segaboy81> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:08] <anonlib> hello
[01:09] <segaboy81> hi anonlib
[01:09] <anonlib> hi
[01:10] <Aki-Thinkpad> krzychu, Also what you can do, is press the windows key, type in "Ubuntu Software Center", and search for "codec". You will find the package there.
[01:10] <anonlib> does someone knows a good dreammcast emulator ?
[01:10] <daniel31> morning all. i'm having problems bootling a 14.04 liveusb for a hard drive install. it's a pentium m, so naturally i'm getting the 'wrong kernel; use forcepae' error. here's the rub: i hit tab because its a yumi liveusb and enter forcepae at the end of the string. but I still get the error which prevents boot. this is strange because I was able to boot and run mint-xfce yesterday using forcepae, but I dont like mint xfce, and I prefer to use vanilla ubuntu…
[01:11] <segaboy81> anonlib, I've had success in the past running NullDC in Wine.  Other than that, nothing really has good enough compatibility.
[01:11] <daftykins> daniel31: you would hit enter on YUMI's menu, then edit the boot line of the ubuntu menu i'd think
[01:12] <daniel31> boot string is: >.config /multiboot/ubuntu-14.04-desktop-i386/isolinux/isolinux.cfg /multiboot/ubuntu-14.04-desktop-i386/isolinux forcepae. ive also tried the above but ending in —forcepae instead.
[01:13] <daniel31> daftykins I think the edit key is tab. I press it and the above boot string comes up...
[01:15] <daftykins> daniel31: but you're doing that from YUMI's menu?
[01:16] <daniel31> yes, thats what i'm attempting… if theres a way to access ubuntus own boot menu from yumi, I havent found it… :-S
[01:17] <daftykins> daniel31: so you press enter on the ubuntu choice... then you get the logo with the little man? you press a key then for options
[01:18] <daniel31> no, this is before pressing enter on the ubuntu option. the logo and the little man - thats the screen that goes away again after a time, right? what is the key that I should be pressing on tht screen?
[01:19] <daftykins> daniel31: any, i hit enter. and no, you can't do this extra line thing from YUMI
[01:19] <daniel31> I understand now daftykins. think you just solved my problem. we'll see...
[01:21] <plop> the update is done. I do this now: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:22] <daftykins> plop: wow, i could've sworn you said it was downloading 5MB but that took forever
[01:22] <plop> yeah, sorry man
[01:22] <daftykins> :D
[01:23] <daftykins> do you have a friend shouting the 0's and 1's to you or something? :>
[01:23] <plop> lol
[01:23] <plop> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7860902
[01:24] <daftykins> and so we find the answer
[01:24] <plop> what is the problem?
[01:25] <daftykins> actually no, hrmm you're using the nvidia driver
[01:25] <plop> yeah
[01:25] <plop> i need it
[01:25] <plop> it was working fine
[01:25] <daftykins> and yet you've got added to the boot line "nomodeset modeset.nouveau=0"
[01:25] <plop> yeah
[01:26] <plop> it was used to fix the slow issue on ubuntu
[01:26] <mga_> q
[01:26] <daftykins> plop: well, do a clean reboot and see if anything has changed since your updates went on
[01:27] <plop> ok
[01:28] <Jeffrey_f> Is there a good ubuntu based instructional on creating and rsyslog server?  Also, one or more of the devices (ie laptops) may wander off premises and not be able to contact the syslog server for a period of time, what happens then?
[01:29] <plop> same issue
[01:29] <plop> update fixed nothing
[01:29] <daniel31> btw I came across this handy tool the other day: http://sprunge.us. its like pastebin, only you can paste to it using curl and read from it using wget… very handy in a non-ubuntu or non-pastebinit-useable situation
[01:30] <mga_> hello
[01:30] <daniel31> anyway daftykins you have solved my problem thanks very much. I didnt realise that screen was where you went to put in boot options - I always assumed it was just a loading screen lol!!!
[01:30] <daftykins> plop: seems you have two screens, pull one and reboot
[01:30] <ProfessorKaos64_> Since may, and I have verified this on several snapshots, Mednafen always installed 0.9.x on 14.04 LTS. According to "http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=mednafen", it is 0.8.x. What gives? Never had this issue before.
[01:30] <daftykins> daniel31: :) no problem, enjoy
[01:30] <plop> ok
[01:31] <daftykins> !info mednafen
[01:31] <ProfessorKaos64_> I've been using 0.9.x in my retro gaming project since may...
[01:31] <ProfessorKaos64_> So I have no idea how that is true
[01:31] <ProfessorKaos64_> its 14.04 LTS , not saucy aka old as time..
[01:32] <daftykins> ProfessorKaos64_: sure you don't have a PPA of some kind added?
[01:32] <ProfessorKaos64_> is that in sources.d?
[01:32] <ProfessorKaos64_> This only happened since yesterday
[01:33] <ProfessorKaos64_> I did 'scratch installs' all day last night, and had 0 issues, and I didn't change an y install code in my project
[01:33] <plop> done what you asked. Still an issue
[01:34] <daftykins> plop: you could run "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" again, but i'm out of ideas, are you sure there's nothing you know of that you did between when it was working and now?
[01:34] <ProfessorKaos64_> We are soon implemented experimental sdl2 support / mednafen in soon anyway from source compile, but just very strange
[01:34] <plop> installed SDL2
[01:34] <plop> i have SDL in my "/" directory
[01:35] <daftykins> plop: and what did that involve?
[01:35] <daftykins> commands or packages wise
[01:36] <plop> LSDL2 installation
[01:36] <plop> let me see if i can find the sight
[01:36] <plop> site
[01:37] <plop> http://askubuntu.com/questions/344512/what-is-the-general-procedure-to-install-development-libraries-in-ubuntu
[01:37] <plop> this ^
[01:37] <plop> i followed that
[01:38] <plop> and installed synpoiss
[01:38] <plop> or something like that
[01:38] <plop> a package installer
[01:39] <plop> i have libsdl installed
[01:40] <jcstarken> 14.04 best music player thank you
[01:40] <plop> shold i uninstall sdl?
[01:40] <plop> or libsdl?
[01:41] <daftykins> plop: "history | grep sdl" or whatever package name you think you put on to see what you previously ran
[01:41] <plop> ok
[01:42] <daftykins> plop: it wouldn't hurt to undo whatever you did, to try
[01:42] <plop> it shows: apt-cache search libsdl2
[01:42] <plop> remove libsdl?
[01:43] <daftykins> plop: only if that's what you installed before things broke
[01:43] <plop> ok
[01:48] <brasileiro> hi everyone... anyone would happen to know the cause of this error? (firefox:6403): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_structure_new_empty: assertion 'gst_structure_validate_name (name)' failed
[01:49] <nvidia> hi, should I install nvidia-prime if I have a nvidia gfx card? What is nvidia-prime?
[01:49] <plop> great
[01:49] <plop> the screen is black
[01:49] <plop> i see nothing
[01:50] <ChogyDan> hey folks, I'm trying to switch from kubuntu to xubuntu session, but when I log out of kubuntu, I just get a blank screen.  Restarting lightdm just puts me back into kubuntu.  Is it my computer?
[01:50] <nvidia> plop: what have you done?
[01:50] <plop> remove sdl2 and mercuil
[01:50] <segaboy81> try sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[01:51] <nvidia> hi, should I install nvidia-prime if I have a nvidia gfx card? What is nvidia-prime?
[01:51] <plop> i followed this garbage http://askubuntu.com/questions/344512/what-is-the-general-procedure-to-install-development-libraries-in-ubuntu
[01:51] <plop> look what it got me
[01:51] <daftykins> nvidia: no, nvidia-prime is for optimus setups
[01:52] <Beldar> nvidia, We see your inquiry don't just repeat so fast. Post your hardware in this ask for help.
[01:53] <nvidia> sorry, I got a bit greedy :)
[01:54] <Neldogz> how can i uninstall a module in Ubutu?
[01:54] <Neldogz> ubuntu
[01:55] <plop> what was that fix? in grub nomouse?
[01:55] <plop> nosomehting
[01:55] <daftykins> nomodeset? 0o you already have that
[01:55] <Bashing-om> plop: nomodeset (??).
[01:55] <daftykins> Neldogz: like what module?
[01:55] <plop> its missing in grub
[01:56] <plop> is there another one in grub?
[01:56] <Bashing-om> plop: nomodeset is a special use case ..
[01:56] <plop> well, i delete quite splash and replace it with something?
[01:56] <medaiss> what is nomouse?
[01:57] <jcstarken> Neldogz: -r option
[01:57] <plop> it worked before
[01:57] <Neldogz> thanks jcstarken
[01:57] <Neldogz> that worked
[01:57] <Bashing-om> plop: If ya want to boot and see the boot messages, replace "quiet splash" with the term text .
[01:58] <plop> it was when i had an nvidia issue. super helped me before
[01:58] <Neldogz> i manually installed a network card driver from realtek thinking it was going to fix a pme event that i was having.. instead now i have no network connectivity
[01:58] <ChogyDan> Im still having trouble logging out of kde.  Is there a command line way to switch to xubuntu? or get to the use login screen?
[01:58] <Neldogz> i yanked the module but still no network connectivity
[01:58] <Neldogz> hmm its still loading
[01:58] <Neldogz> i guess i didnt uninstall it
[01:59] <Neldogz> wouldn't sudo modprobe -r r8168 remove the driver?
[01:59] <daftykins> Neldogz: check it's not in /etc/modules and consider blacklisting maybe
[01:59] <plop> what do i do now about the missing unity now?
[01:59] <Neldogz> checking
[01:59] <plop> reinstall ubuntu
[01:59] <daftykins> plop: no idea what you've done with your install, i'd give up and nuke it by now
[01:59] <plop> i installed sdl2
[01:59] <plop> and this crap happened
[01:59] <daftykins> plop: but did you remove that?
[01:59] <plop> yes
[01:59] <Bashing-om> plop: If ya set the boot paramater "nomodeset" will boot with the fall back graphics driver .. is that what you have in mind ?
[02:00] <daftykins> plop: oh well backup /home and reinstall
[02:00] <Neldogz> daftykins, its not there.. the only things i see in there are lp and rtc
[02:00] <daftykins> Bashing-om: it's way worse than that really
[02:00] <daftykins> Neldogz: good stuff
[02:00] <plop> i'll try bashing-om
[02:00] <daftykins> it's not going to help your situation
[02:01] <daftykins> plop: actually you could try reinstalling the nvidia driver, "dpkg -l | grep nvidia"
[02:01] <plop> ok
[02:02] <daftykins> obviously that's not the reinstall command, i just need output from that first
[02:02] <plop> ok now what?
[02:02] <plop> reboot?
[02:03] <daftykins> read what i said sir
[02:03] <plop> oh
[02:03] <plop> sorry
[02:05] <segaboy81> daftykins: it might be more helpful to let plop know that dpkg -l | grep nvidia searches his packages and pipes that list to grep, which filters it for the term nvidia...  this way he's not in the dark.
[02:07] <daftykins> segaboy81: we don't always all have the time to teach every single action we instruct.
[02:07] <daftykins> consider that i'm actually living whilst here too ;)
[02:08] <svetlana> when I run "sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser" I don't see seamonkey in the list; how do I add it? it is already installed
[02:08] <segaboy81> ^^ Fair enough, sir.  :)
[02:08] <nvidia> how is 62 degree celsius for a temp when gaming in ubuntu?
[02:08] <nvidia> gpu temp
[02:08] <plop> ok here's what's going on. I have the graphics card working and I have the dual monitor working. The only issue is the unity launcher is missing.
[02:09] <plop> the black screen disappered somehow
[02:09] <plop> i installed libsdl and this problem appeared.
[02:09] <daftykins> plop: can you use paste.ubuntu.com to show me the output of the command i asked for above, now?
[02:10] <daftykins> "dpkg -l | grep nvidia"
[02:10] <plop> ok
[02:11] <plop> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7861197
[02:11] <plop> by the way, the grep thing for nvidia did nothing
[02:12] <daftykins> no output at all?
[02:12] <plop> yeah
[02:12] <plop> i think the nvidia files got shot down
[02:13] <plop> i may need to reinstall it
[02:13] <daftykins> yeah you've removed it
[02:13] <daftykins> lol why didn't you say O_O
[02:13] <plop> how?
[02:13] <plop> how did i removed it?
[02:13] <daftykins> yip you're running with nouveau again right now
[02:13] <daftykins> i have no idea
[02:13] <Bashing-om> svetlana: -> sudo update-alternatives --get-selections (??) .
[02:13] <daftykins> actually no the module isn't there
[02:14] <plop> crap
[02:14] <plop> well i have the drivers in the downloads file
[02:14] <daftykins> plop: can you pastebin "apt-cache search nvidia"
[02:14] <plop> ok
[02:15] <plop> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7861225
[02:15] <dan_cantlogin> hey guys, I need help.  I was trying to login to a different session, and I tried disabling autologin on kde.  Now there is no loging in, lightdm fails to start up bootup.  I can ask it to start, but it doesn't do much.  Any tips/hints appreciated
[02:15] <plop> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7861225/
[02:16] <Vampire-Bill> Is this the channel for asking coding question 14.04lts
[02:16] <daftykins> plop: nah that's the same paste as last time
[02:16] <plop> oh
[02:16] <wheatthin> Dan, were you using lightdm or kdm?
[02:16] <svetlana> Bashing-om, seamonkey is not there either.
[02:16] <wheatthin> dan_cantlogin, *
[02:17] <plop> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7861233/
[02:17] <dan_cantlogin> wheatthin: no idea.  I assumed everyone used lightdm
[02:17] <segaboy81> dan_cantlogin, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[02:17] <segaboy81> <[02:17] <Vampire-Bill> dan_cantlogin: are you logged in to gui
[02:17] <wheatthin> dan_cantlogin, I'm personally using gdm as well :)
[02:17] <daftykins> plop: you keep doing the same thing lol, what's going on - run this then "apt-cache search nvidia | pastebinit"
[02:17] <plop> ok sorry
[02:18] <xangua> svetlana: seamonkey hasn't been in ubuntu repositories since more than 2 years I believe
[02:18] <dan_cantlogin> Vampire-Bill: no... that's the problem at the moment
[02:18] <wheatthin> dan_cantlogin, you can try service kdm start from the console
[02:18] <svetlana> xangua, ok.
[02:18] <plop> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7861240
[02:18] <wheatthin> dan_cantlogin, was it kubuntu that you've installed?
[02:18] <svetlana> xangua, any idea why they dropped it?
[02:18] <plop> it should be different
[02:19] <wheatthin> or was kde a secondary desktop environment?
[02:19] <daftykins> plop: "sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-304"
[02:19] <plop> ok
[02:20] <dan_cantlogin> segaboy81: tryied reconfiguring and reinstalling lightdm.  Hasn't helped
[02:20] <Vampire-Bill> dan_cantlogin: CTRL-ALT-F1
[02:20] <plop> its installing something
[02:20] <wheatthin> dan_cantlogin, ^^
[02:20] <dan_cantlogin> wheatthin: I was using kubuntu, then I installed xubuntu.  I've done that in the past, and had no issues
[02:20] <segaboy81> dan_cantlogin:  have you tried purging the package first?  This way the configs are flushed along with the uninstall.
[02:21] <wheatthin> dan_cantlogin, k, well there's the problem.. I don't think your xubuntu is using lightdm manager.. I could be wrong
[02:21] <segaboy81> dan_cantlogin: actually, that might ask you to uninstall your whole system...  sorry, no access to Ubuntu irght now.
[02:22] <dan_cantlogin> segaboy81: sudo apt-get remove --purge lightdm was the command use. Vampire-Bill I'm on tty1 with irssi :/
[02:22] <wheatthin> dan_cantlogin, was there an incomplete install?
[02:23] <wheatthin> dan_cantlogin, change profiles using tasksel?
[02:23] <segaboy81> dan_cantlogin:  how about installing gdm or xdm temporarily so you can at least login to an x session?
[02:23] <steve028> I am not able to see the menu bar on my desktop.  Any ideas?  I have tried unity --reset but it says it is deprecated
[02:24] <Vampire-Bill> steve028: version?
[02:24] <steve028> 14.04
[02:24] <segaboy81> steve028: radeon card?
[02:25] <steve028> sorry 13.10
[02:25] <steve028> its in virtual box
[02:25] <plop> do i reboot?
[02:26] <svetlana> I run "xz -d filename.xz". Where does it decompress it to?
[02:26] <steve028> I am unable to launch a terminal with ctrl-alt-t and I can't move, minimize or close windows
[02:26] <segaboy81> steve028:  did you install the virtualbox-utilities package?  i think it has some big trouble with compiz if you don't have it.
[02:26] <dan_cantlogin> segaboy81: xdm works! kinda.  It just logs me back into kubuntu, but it is a start.  Thanks all
[02:26] <svetlana> steve028, try ctrl-alt-f1, ctrl-alt-f2, etc. do you see terminals there?
[02:26] <Vampire-Bill> steve028: system settings-apperance-behavior
[02:26] <svetlana> dan_cantlogin, hi.
[02:26] <steve028> I am heping a friend and I am not exactly sure what they did but things were working normal recently so I don't think the virtualbox-utilities are it
[02:27] <segaboy81> dan_cantlogin: *bows*
[02:27] <svetlana> dan_cantlogin, you're not using lightdm I can see. could you tell me why please? I'd like to see the context.
[02:27] <Neldogz> ok now im totally stuck,, I manually tried to install a driver from realtek's website on 14.04 and now i have no network connectivity. Can someone give me an idea how to completely uninstall?
[02:27] <steve028> I will give that a try Vampire-Bill
[02:27] <plop> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:27] <plop> it worked!!!!
[02:27] <svetlana> plop: hi.
[02:27] <plop> yes!!!
[02:27] <svetlana> :)
[02:27] <svetlana> what did?
[02:27] <plop> finally
[02:27] <plop> long story
[02:27] <plop> the launcher was missing due to nvidia being a jerk
[02:28] <dan_cantlogin> svetlana: because it isn't working.  I don't really understand the question.  But I think I may need to reinstall and get back to lightdm, fwiw
[02:28] <Bashing-om> steve028: Are you aware that 13.10 is End_Of_Life, and you are beating on a dead horse ??
[02:29] <steve028> I hope it is not a dead hores
[02:29] <steve028> horse*
[02:29] <segaboy81> dan_cantlogin:  sudo rm /etc/lightdm.conf && sudo apt-get install lightdm
[02:29] <daftykins> plop: no, it wasn't nvidia, it was what you did to break your system
[02:29] <daftykins> :)
[02:29] <Vampire-Bill> dan_cantlogin: sudo apt-get --purge remove
[02:29] <segaboy81> I think that's where the config file is... but I haven't used lightdm in a couple of years...
[02:29] <svetlana> dan_cantlogin, you can purge lightdm and install it again if you like. It could work then (without a complete OS reinstall).
[02:29] <plop> but what did i do??
[02:29] <plop> how did i break my system???
[02:29] <wheatthin> svetlana, he already tried purging..
[02:30] <steve028> ok, forget what I said before it is 14.04...
[02:30] <daftykins> plop: messing with SDL
[02:30] <svetlana> plop: I don't know.
[02:30] <plop> darnSDL
[02:30] <plop> no more SDL
[02:30] <plop> SFML
[02:30] <wheatthin> dan_cantlogin, how did you install xubuntu?
[02:30] <steve028> and system settings-apperance-behavior
[02:30] <steve028> does not work
[02:30] <svetlana> wheatthin, I see. maybe we need to check its logs? or restart the lightdm service?
[02:30] <Bashing-om> steve028: 13.10 no longer has support, software respository is clossing down.
[02:30] <plop> SFML is the way to go to make games
[02:30] <steve028> Sorry Bashing-om but it is 14.04
[02:31] <wheatthin> svetlana, I believe he wasn't able to start the service.. What he did was installing xubuntu packages over kubuntu, and it switched from kdm to whatever
[02:31] <nvidia> panic! I have a ssd-disk .. I ran fstrim -v / and the program just stands still
[02:31] <Bashing-om> steve028: : )) .
[02:31] <plop> thanks for the help daftykins
[02:31] <plop> good night
[02:31] <steve028> is there a way to reset the desktop configuration?
[02:31] <nvidia> I don't dare to ctrl+c the program
[02:31] <nvidia> is trimming really necessary?
[02:31] <Vampire-Bill> steve028: I do not do the virtual box thing sorry that was all I had for it
[02:32] <Neldogz> wouldn't modprobe -r modulename uninstall a driver in Ubuntu?
[02:32] <Vampire-Bill> nvidia:ssd old or newer
[02:32] <steve028> ok thanks
[02:32] <wheatthin> Neldogz, negative, it just unloads it
[02:33] <nvidia> Vampire-Bill: newer
[02:33] <nvidia> the hdd-lamp is lit :s
[02:33] <nvidia> s/lamp/led
[02:33] <Neldogz> wheatthin, how can i completely uninstall.. i have tried also to simply blacklist the r8186 realtek nic card but it keeps loading
[02:33] <Vampire-Bill> nvidia:ssd then as along as you are running up-to-date drivers for it no
[02:33] <wheatthin> Neldogz, and that is temporary, unless you block it from unloading
[02:33] <wheatthin> Neldogz, did the src come with an uninstaller?
[02:34] <Vampire-Bill> nvidia:is to cut down on read write amounts to help extend life of ssd
[02:34] <wheatthin> rmod will delete it I believe
[02:34] <nvidia> Vampire-Bill: what did you answer no to?
[02:34] <wheatthin> sorry nope
[02:34] <daftykins> plop: my pleasure, cya
[02:34] <Vampire-Bill> nvidia:trimming
[02:34] <Neldogz> wheatthin, it doesn't appear to have one. I installed the driver using an autorun.sh script
[02:34] <Neldogz> rebooted, and now no network connectivity
[02:34] <nvidia> Vampire-Bill: no, as in "not needed"?
[02:34] <Vampire-Bill> nvidia:correct
[02:35] <krzychu> how to change resolution not from monitor list in linux ?
[02:35] <Vampire-Bill> nvidia:how much ram are you runnning
[02:35] <krzychu> my monitor is full hd
[02:36] <krzychu> but i want hd ready resolution on it
[02:36] <wheatthin> Neldogz, I bet it has an --uninstall option
[02:36] <krzychu> hd ready is not on list
[02:36] <daftykins> krzychu: what graphics hardware?
[02:36] <Guest2612> where am I
[02:36] <krzychu> GeForce 6200
[02:36] <nvidia> Vampire-Bill: It's new. 32 I think
[02:36] <nvidia> 32gb
[02:37] <segaboy81> 32gb!!!!
[02:37] <daftykins> krzychu: ah, that's quite an old card. how is your monitor connected? what cable type?
[02:37] <krzychu> D-SUB
[02:37] <sakokap> what does EDID checksum is invalid mean? i get this when i start lubuntu.
[02:37] <Vampire-Bill> nvidia:then no for sure not needed trim mainly older ssd and system below 2gig of ram
[02:37] <daftykins> krzychu: can you run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" ?
[02:37] <Guest2612> exit
[02:37] <Neldogz> wheatthin, it says make: unrecognized option '--uninstall' .. i tried sudo ./autorun.sh --uninstall
[02:38] <nvidia> :9 ty
[02:38] <krzychu> i dont understand
[02:38] <daftykins> krzychu: open the terminal and run those commands please
[02:38] <wheatthin> hmm  Neldogz and it's the realtek drivers?
[02:39] <daftykins> krzychu: the last will give you a link to paste to me so i can see a log file
[02:39] <krzychu> i am affraid to do this
[02:39] <Vampire-Bill> krzychu: why
[02:39] <reisio> 'cause look at daftykins
[02:39] <reisio> he's like to suck your blood!
[02:39] <Vampire-Bill> krzychu: all he is asking is that you update system than install app
[02:40] <reisio> daftykins: what'd you tell him to do, /usr/bin/deblood?!
[02:40] <Neldogz> wheatthin, thats correct.. This is a link to what i downloaded  and installed: http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=13&PFid=5&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false
[02:40] <wheatthin> Neldogz, and you've tried    rmmod <modulename>   ?
[02:40] <daftykins> reisio: ;_;
[02:40] <daftykins> krzychu: ok nevermind then
[02:41] <daftykins> krzychu: it's perfectly safe but i don't have the time to explain it step by step right now.
[02:41] <krzychu> how to it simple ?
[02:41] <krzychu> do
[02:41] <daftykins> that's not a grammatically correct sentence
[02:41] <wheatthin> aww :P Poor daftykins :)
[02:41] <Neldogz> wheatthin, yes i issued rmmod -r modulename.. i even tried rmmod -b modulename to blacklist it.. however i will reboot.. and lsmod shows it loaded again
[02:41] <reisio> krzychu: CTRL+ALT+t, sudo rmmod foo
[02:41] <krzychu> i am from poland
[02:42] <daftykins> wheatthin: all.. all i wanted to do was help *cries*
[02:42] <wheatthin> Neldogz, and you've went to the blacklist file itself and tried to put it in?
[02:42] <daftykins> !pl | krzychu
[02:42] <wheatthin> Neldogz, cause I dont' think it's appending
[02:42] <Neldogz> yes I have also tried that too.. i inserted blacklist r8168  rebooted.. and lsmod shows it loaded
[02:43] <Neldogz> i am blacklisting at : /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[02:43] <Neldogz> is that the right location
[02:43] <Neldogz> ?
[02:43] <wheatthin> Neldogz, go in and delete it manually after modprobe -r
[02:43] <wheatthin> yup
[02:43] <krzychu> i speak inglish but not very well
[02:44] <krzychu> english
[02:44] <Neldogz> wheatthin, from the modules folder yes?
[02:44] <wheatthin> yup
[02:44] <Neldogz> ok doing that now
[02:45] <krzychu> next problem is install xvid and mp3 codec ?
[02:45] <wheatthin> xvid? :P
[02:45] <krzychu> mpeg
[02:46] <wheatthin> krzychu, have you looked at the vlc tutorial?
[02:46] <wheatthin> it includes all that crazy stuff
[02:46] <reisio> krzychu: ffmpeg, libx264, libfdk_aac
[02:46] <krzychu> i try install ffmpeg
[02:46] <krzychu> but not work
[02:47] <krzychu> gstreamer
[02:47] <wheatthin> krzychu, you trying to watch a dvd?
[02:47] <reisio> krzychu: sure it works
[02:48] <Snakes> hey all; I am reinstalling, and my support issue is... what apps should I download? I always forget what is out there, and its been awhile since I browsed and I want some new good ones.
[02:48] <Neldogz> wheatthin, i think i found it.. does this path sound right to you? /lib/modules/3.13.0-24-generic/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/realtek/r8186.ko
[02:49] <wheatthin> Snakes, just for reference, check out the apps from our repos only :)
[02:49] <wheatthin> that's all we support :P
[02:49] <reisio> Snakes: you on ordinary Ubuntu?
[02:49] <Bashing-om> krzychu: Have you -> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras <- to install the nonfree codec's ?
[02:49] <Snakes> reisio: yeppers
[02:50] <Snakes> Bashing-om: oh yah!  okay its installing :) Anything else?
[02:50] <reisio> Snakes: firefox, gnome-mplayer, supertux, deluge, moon-buggy
[02:50] <Bashing-om> Snakes: synaptic
[02:50] <reisio> Snakes: screen, moreutils, rename
[02:51] <xangua> teeworlds :D
[02:51] <Neldogz> wheatthin, i deleted that ko file and the module is still loading
[02:51] <Neldogz> at this point I am lost
[02:51] <Snakes> Bashing-om: ah, synaptic! reisio errmmmm screen, moreutils, rename? Sounds interesting; what are they?
[02:52] <sydney> Snakes: supertux,yes!!
[02:52] <reisio> Snakes: proper things you want
[02:52] <sydney> snpreferably the git version ;)
[02:52] <Snakes> sydney: IT WIll  MAKE ME WASTE TIMES!!!!!! :((((((
[02:52] <sydney> :D
[02:52] <reisio> Snakes: yay!
[02:52] <Snakes> ;_;
[02:53] <sydney> reisio: do you use the git version of supertux?
[02:53] <shellox> hi, has anyone here a high-res laptop(2560 x 1440 @13,14 inch) running with ubuntu?
[02:53] <reisio> sydney: nope, does it have more levels?
[02:53] <Beldar> Snakes, This 14.10?
[02:53] <shellox> try to find hardware, but it looks like if the most devices aren't very well supported or are very expensive
[02:53] <reisio> shellox: probably someone has
[02:54] <reisio> shellox: nah, GNU/Linux supports more hardware than any other OS
[02:54] <sydney> reisio: might,what version are you using? 1.3?
[02:54] <Snakes> Beldar: technically, but its using the 14.04 repos
[02:54] <shellox> reisio: i've bad experience with nvidea graphics and shitty wifi driver
[02:54] <reisio> sydney: I'd be using version 0.1.3 yeah if it were installed ATM
[02:54] <Beldar> All you helpers notice that
[02:54] <Snakes> Beldar: I 'm going to go grab the core apps so I can test
[02:54] <reisio> shellox: try another driver
[02:54] <krzychu> what can i do on linux ?
[02:54] <reisio> krzychu: anything, and more :)
[02:55] <krzychu> this system is only for a while
[02:55] <sydney> reisio: it has wwaayy more levels,and wwaayy better graphics :P
[02:55] <reisio> sydney: cool
[02:55] <krzychu> on old pc
[02:55] <reisio> I'll try it out next time I'm apt
[02:55] <reisio> open source games, they're bound to improve aren't they :)
[02:55] <reisio> krzychu: no matter
[02:55] <krzychu> becouse i cant pay 150$ for windows 8
[02:55] <krzychu> because
[02:55] <reisio> krzychu: Windows 8 is $99
[02:56] <sydney> reisio:  :) What version of ubuntu are you using?
[02:56] <reisio> krzychu: but it's not really worth it :)
[02:56] <reisio> sydney: none :)
[02:56] <krzychu> this for my mother pc
[02:56] <sydney> reisio: oh :P
[02:56] <Neldogz> wheatthin, i deleted that ko file and the module is still loading
[02:56] <reisio> krzychu: you can make GNU/Linux look and work just like any version of Windows, except for the virus support
[02:56] <sydney> reisio: then what are you using?
[02:56] <reisio> that's harder
[02:56] <krzychu> only for www
[02:56] <reisio> krzychu: all set then
[02:56] <reisio> sydney: something else
[02:56] <sydney> figures :P
[02:57] <rauldo> Hey...I'm in the partitioning step in the installation (14.04) in a windows preinstalled laptop. it says that it can't find an operative system... but I still can see windows partitions there. can I continue? I want to be able to dual boot
[02:58] <rauldo> also i can see a efi partition there
[02:58] <reisio> rauldo: you did the 'install alongside' option?
[02:59] <rauldo> windows was not detected... so there wasn't that option
[02:59] <wheatthin> Neldogz, I think you have to update-initramfs -u
[02:59] <reisio> rauldo: ah, okay
[02:59] <wheatthin> after removing a kernel module.
[02:59] <daftykins> rauldo: is it win8? you've booted in the wrong mode, i suspect
[02:59] <reisio> rauldo: if you do custom, and tell it the partition space to use, you'll be fine
[02:59] <genoobie> hey I know this is a trivial problem
[02:59] <reisio> genoobie: yarp
[03:00] <genoobie> but 14.04 has experienced an internal error
[03:00] <Neldogz> wheatthin, trying now
[03:00] <Beldar> rauldo, Use the W8 disk manager to reszie and make an unallocated space to install ubuntu to.
[03:00] <Beldar> resize*
[03:00] <reisio> should probably wait until he confirms it's 8 :p
[03:00] <genoobie> update-notifier-common 0.154.1
[03:00] <rauldo> daftikins: i have booted in uefi mode
[03:00] <reisio> rauldo: what is the install media?
[03:00] <sakokap> reisio oh yeah? then why cant we have  click sounds every time we press the keys? theres clickey for windows but none for linux.
[03:00] <rauldo> it's a usb
[03:00] <reisio> k
[03:01] <reisio> sakokap: sure there is
[03:01] <genoobie> should I try a previous version?  How would I fix this...
[03:01] <genoobie> in the path apt.check.py
[03:01] <genoobie> so it's a script?
[03:01] <genoobie> then in the right hand part of the panel there appears an !
[03:01] <rauldo> Beldar: i have resized win's ntfs partition using the ubuntu installation tool
[03:02] <rauldo> i have rebooted and at last windows haven't been corrupted
[03:02] <Neldogz> wheatthin, ..ok so this is what has been done.. r8168 module blacklisted.. modprobe -r r8168 and update-initramfs -u issued
[03:02] <Beldar> rauldo, Than do a manual install in the unallocated space, if you see it.
[03:02] <reisio> genoobie: what?
[03:02] <wheatthin> Neldogz, and it's still loading? hmm You sure you deleted the right module?
[03:03] <rauldo> ok... but what about the bootloader... should it be in /dev/sda?
[03:03] <sakokap> reisio whats it called?
[03:03] <rauldo> like in legacy mode?
[03:03] <genoobie> so there's a problem with "update-notifier/apt.check.py
[03:03] <reisio> sakokap: you want to hear a sound on every keypress?
[03:03] <krzychu> bye
[03:04] <genoobie> causes a crash and as a result I get an "!" in the lower right corner (because the update notifier is trying to tell me to update or something)
[03:04] <genoobie> at any rate, not sure how to solve this
[03:04] <reisio> genoobie: and if you run it from a terminal?
[03:04] <sakokap> reisio  yes
[03:05] <genoobie> reisio, the command? update-notifier?
[03:05] <reisio> sakokap: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/conspy/+bug/1071836
[03:05] <reisio> sakokap: apparently built into X :p
[03:05] <reisio> take that Windows!
[03:05] <reisio> genoobie: whatever command you think is failing
[03:05] <genoobie> warning already running
[03:05] <genoobie> update-notifier
[03:06] <rauldo> Beldar, reisio, should I install the bootloader in /dev/sda?
[03:06] <Neldogz> wheatthin, finally its no longer loading
[03:06] <Neldogz> but i also dont have network connectivity
[03:07] <reisio> Beldar: hang on
[03:07] <Neldogz> wheatthin, the realtek nic was working after installing ubuntu.. how can i tell ubuntu to use the old driver
[03:07] <sakokap> reisio will this work on lubuntu?
[03:07] <genoobie> so reisio when I type update-notifier, it says, already running
[03:07] <reisio> Beldar: whoops
[03:07] <reisio> rauldo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[03:08] <wheatthin> Neldogz, by reinstalling the current kernel with --purge
[03:08] <reisio> genoobie: what about /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check.py
[03:09] <Neldogz> ok, let me try
[03:09] <wheatthin> Neldogz, sudo apt-get install --reinstall --purge <kernel package>
[03:09] <reisio> sydney: I'll try 0.3.4 :)
[03:09] <sydney> reisio: there you go. :)
[03:10] <reisio> (since I'm not on a system I can git with atm)
[03:10] <genoobie> reisio, returns "0;0" and no errors
[03:10] <wheatthin> reisio, that's why I keep an open vm :)
[03:10] <Neldogz> thanks wheatthin.. using secondary card to get to apt-get
[03:12] <genoobie> Looks like a known bugs
[03:12] <Neldogz> wheatthin, dumb question.. how do i figure out the kernel package name?
[03:12] <genoobie> bug.  Wait for an update?
[03:12] <genoobie> uname -r
[03:12] <genoobie> Neldogz, uname -r
[03:13] <genoobie> oh wait, you mean kernel version?
[03:13] <daftykins> _package_
[03:13] <daftykins> the clue was in the question
[03:13] <daftykins> Neldogz: glue 'uname -r' on the end of "linux-image-"
[03:13] <reisio> wheatthin: well I have boxes I can use, I just prefer not to do something fun on my non-primary enviro
[03:14] <genoobie> just did lubuntu installs on very similar machines...no crash on the other machine
[03:14] <wheatthin> yeah I hear ya.. I'm on a dual quad xeon with (only 10gb of ram) but still have a vm just chilling in the background to ssh into
[03:14] <Neldogz> thank you.. reinstalling now
[03:15] <SMiller> Hello. How does one place a patch in the root of the source tree (/usr/src/linux) since I downloaded the patch online to the /home/ directory and can't seem to copy and paste it to root, nor can I find a terminal command that works yet to do it.
[03:15] <wheatthin> Umm isn't there a patch command itself?
[03:16] <SMiller> wheathin: you mean "patch"?
[03:16] <sakokap> reisio i did the first command on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/conspy/+bug/1071836 and it says No such schema 'org.gnome.settings-daemon.peripherals.keyboard'
[03:16] <reisio> SMiller: sudo mv foo, sudo cp foo, etc.
[03:16] <reisio> sakokap: then read the rest of it
[03:18] <Neldogz> wheatthin, so machien is back up but network card doesnt work after reinstalling the kernel
[03:19] <wheatthin> now unblacklist the module :)
[03:22] <Neldogz> nope doesnt work
[03:22] <Neldogz> I guess at this point I am goign to give up
[03:23] <Neldogz> probably faster just to reinstall ubuntu
[03:25] <SMiller> reisio: yep, it did it. Thanks.
[03:26] <Neldogz> wheatthin, you fixed it
[03:26] <Neldogz> its working now
[03:27] <Neldogz> thank you for all your help!! i would of never got this to work. Also learned a few more advanced things in Ubuntu
[03:28] <wheatthin> :)
[03:28] <wheatthin> you're welcome
[03:29] <Neldogz> your a rockstar.. i mean it.. thanks again wheatthin!
[03:29] <sakokap>  i want to hear key clicks on lubuntu not visual cues.
[03:32] <reisio> sakokap: you read that whole thing I linked?
[03:33] <sakokap> reisio yes
[03:33] <scragnolng> ahh it's a wonderful day
[03:34] <genoobie> oh well
[03:34] <Akiva-Thinkpad> I have an old deb, configure-trackpoint. It is not installing from the software center, but I know it can install. what is the sudo force install command?
[03:34] <genoobie> here's one more question.  I had 11.04 and it seemed to run a bit more smoothly than 14.04
[03:35] <stormchaser-3000> hi
[03:35] <stormchaser-3000> um
[03:35] <stormchaser-3000> can anyone tell me how to update my graphics drivers?
[03:35] <mikeyj> I have a usb flash drive and no matter how much stuff I delete the free space doesn't update?
[03:35] <genoobie> stormchaser-3000, apt-get update && apt-get install?
[03:35] <stormchaser-3000> genoobie: no i mean likw what packages to isntall
[03:36] <stormchaser-3000> install*
[03:36] <stormchaser-3000> like*
[03:37] <wheatthin> stormchaser-3000, which graphics card do you own?
[03:37] <stormchaser-3000> um i don't know what is the command to find out
[03:37] <stormchaser-3000> i know i have intell
[03:37] <stormchaser-3000> intel*
[03:37] <sakokap> key-click issue unresolved - CONFIRMED
[03:38] <reisio> sakokap: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/linux.gentoo.user/k9LTAWcvUtE
[03:38] <wheatthin> !intel
[03:38] <wheatthin> !gpu
[03:38] <wheatthin> grr
[03:38] <wheatthin> lolol
[03:39] <stormchaser-3000> um is there a netsplit or is the bot on?
[03:39] <mnathani> is it safe to install ubuntu server 14.04 on a machine that already has windows 8?  I intend to dual boot using a different drive. Will Grub be smart enough to detect windows and add those boot options?
[03:39] <reisio> stormchaser-3000: does it matter?
[03:39] <reisio> mnathani: if it isn't, it will be easily fixed
[03:39] <stormchaser-3000> reisio: nvm i was wondering because !intel and !gpu werent working
[03:40]  * reisio shrugs
[03:40] <mulga> !worth 1
[03:40] <wheatthin> lol
[03:40] <mulga> !help
[03:40] <mulga> bot down?
[03:40] <stormchaser-3000> !intel
[03:41] <stormchaser-3000> well
[03:41] <wheatthin> stormchaser-3000, this might help if you scroll down a bit http://askubuntu.com/questions/166224/how-do-i-install-the-intel-graphics-driver-in-my-system
[03:41] <reisio> bot is fine
[03:41] <stormchaser-3000> ok
[03:41] <mulga> lol whoops, wrong #chan
[03:42] <mikeyj> I found out the reason is because it puts the deleted files into a hidden .trashes folder
[03:42] <mikeyj> kthxbye
[03:42] <reisio> /msg ubottu search intel
[03:43] <stormchaser-3000> ok
[03:43] <stormchaser-3000> so
[03:43] <stormchaser-3000> here are my specific drivers
[03:43] <guest-ZZzvVx> How do I turn on wireless?  I'm not given the option in the networking widget and the wireless button on my laptop does not work in ubuntu.  I'm using 12.04.04
[03:43] <stormchaser-3000> Intel® Pentium(R) M processor 1.86GHz
[03:43] <stormchaser-3000> prosseser
[03:43] <stormchaser-3000> Intel® 915GM x86/MMX/SSE2
[03:43] <stormchaser-3000> graphics
[03:43] <reisio> stormchaser-3000: what about them?
[03:44] <stormchaser-3000> well i need to update them but i will try what wheatthin posted
[03:44] <reisio> why do you need to update them?
[03:45] <wheatthin> stormchaser-3000, I wouldn't expect any significant changes
[03:45] <kostkon> stormchaser-3000, you can get the latest intel drivers by using the intel driver installer http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/03/intel-linux-driver-installer-1-0-4
[03:46] <reisio> it's quite unlikely you need drivers you can't get from Ubuntu repos
[03:47] <stormchaser-3000> kostkon: ok thanks
[03:48] <stormchaser-3000> eh i don't know if i can get drivers
[03:48] <stormchaser-3000> on a dell latitude d610
[03:49] <guest-ZZzvVx> Is there a keyboard shortcut for opening a terminal in 12.04?
[03:50] <reisio> guest-ZZzvVx: not CTRL+ALT+t?
[03:50] <reisio> stormchaser-3000: I'd be incredibly surprised if you couldn't
[03:51] <reisio> hugely, massively so
[03:51] <guest-ZZzvVx> reisio: Not working for me... :(  Turned off my touchpad in my main login to use a mouse, and trying to work without the mouse.
[03:53] <sakokap> i think the DO WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT TO PUBLIC LICENSE near the end of  https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/linux.gentoo.user/k9LTAWcvUtE is good. i just do not know what to do with it.
[03:53] <reisio> guest-ZZzvVx: nohup gnome-terminal > /dev/null &
[03:54] <reisio> sakokap: well you have to copy it into a file and run it and whatnot :)
[03:54] <Akiva-Thinkpad> is there a widget layer available in ubuntu to download beyond the compiz implimentation?
[03:55] <Vampire-Bill> how to get your name blue?
[03:55] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Vampire-Bill, what do you mean?
[03:55] <reisio> Akiva-Thinkpad: hrmm?
[03:55] <guest-ZZzvVx> reisio: Can't get to terminal to run anything in my main account. I'm in guest now.
[03:56] <Akiva-Thinkpad> reisio, something like guake, but for any application
[03:56] <reisio> guest-ZZzvVx: hrmm?
[03:56] <Akiva-Thinkpad> I'd like to put my irc client in there
[03:56] <reisio> Akiva-Thinkpad: ah
[03:56] <reisio> Akiva-Thinkpad: yeah, there are loads, really
[03:56] <reisio> Akiva-Thinkpad: like superkaramba, I think
[03:56] <reisio> Akiva-Thinkpad: 'launcher', 'panel', etc.
[03:56] <reisio> Akiva-Thinkpad: also...
[03:56] <Vampire-Bill> Akiva-Thinkpad: my name is gray and yours and all others are blue
[03:57] <guest-ZZzvVx> reisio: Wasn't sure what to do with nohup.  Is there any other potential keyboard shortcut to pull up the terminal other than ctl-alt-t?
[03:57] <reisio> Akiva-Thinkpad: http://alternativeto.net/SearchResult.aspx?search=gnome-do
[03:57] <reisio> guest-ZZzvVx: you could probably ALT+F2, then type in gnome-terminal
[03:57] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Vampire-Bill, Oh okay; I understand. it depends on your irc client. This chat room is called, "IRC",
[03:57] <sakokap> reisio ok i have it pasted into leafpad. now what?
[03:58] <Vampire-Bill> Akiva-Thinkpad: ok thank you
[03:58] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Vampire-Bill, and different clients, either desktop or browser based, will colour the names differently, if at all.
[03:58] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Vampire-Bill, Np; are you in a web browser chatting?
[03:58] <reisio> sakokap: let's see
[03:58] <Vampire-Bill> Akiva-Thinkpad: no xchat
[03:58] <guest-ZZzvVx> reisio: I'm using xfce
[03:59] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Vampire-Bill, Do yourself a favour, and install hexchat; its a bit more updated as far as I know. Then go and visit #hexchat for help configuring it
[03:59] <hjax> Fudge: success
[03:59] <guest-ZZzvVx> reisio: Ah, that should do.  Will try with that now.
[03:59] <Jeffrey_f> Anyone have a decent rsyslog web gui?
[03:59] <Vampire-Bill> Akiva-Thinkpad: ok thank you
[03:59] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Vampire-Bill, good luck
[04:01] <hjax> i highly recommend hexchat, after downloading it i never looked back
[04:05] <Fudge> idneed hjax
[04:05] <Fudge> indeed
[04:06] <Fudge> Q may not be so onmnipitent though loL he did not make it back to the main network
[04:06] <Vampire-Bill> Akiva-Thinkpad: this is different thank you
[04:07] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Vampire-Bill, Today; you are a winner. Congratulations.
[04:07] <Akiva-Thinkpad> !cookie Vampire-Bill
[04:07] <Akiva-Thinkpad> !cookie
[04:07] <Akiva-Thinkpad> err, something like that anyways.
[04:09] <sakokap>  reisio ok i have it pasted into leafpad. now what?
[04:14] <cemotyz09> Sakokap I think you have to save it as a .py extension and then run it
[04:16] <sakokap> reisio how to run it?
[04:18] <daftykins> sakokap: open a terminal, "python file.py" i think
[04:18] <cemotyz09> i only know sh <filelocation> in terminal im not sure if a .py can be run by double clicking in file manager
[04:19] <cemotyz09> omitting the <> of course
[04:19] <SchrodingersScat> cemotyz09: if the first line is proper, should be able to chmod +x and run it
[04:20] <cemotyz09> didn't know it was different daftykins thanks, learn something new everyday
[04:23] <sakokap> reisio python: can't open file 'keypress.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory
[04:24] <cemotyz09> you have to already be in the directory or use full file path probably
[04:26] <xtriz> i have created a new user in which default groups should i add him such that he is able to administrate the system ?
[04:27] <rauldo> xtriz: root
[04:28] <xtriz> rauldo, ok
[04:28] <xtriz> before it was the group wheel ?
[04:29] <rauldo> sorry... i'm not a native english... and the translator can't helpme to understand that
[04:30] <daftykins> xtriz: i think you want the group 'admin'
[04:30] <xtriz> rauldo, i meant to say that, previously we had to add the user to group wheel to get the root priviledges
[04:30] <xtriz> daftykins, ok :)
[04:31] <rauldo> oh
[04:34] <edition> in ubuntu, is it better to static link  with SDL2?
[04:34] <sakokap> cemotyz09 /home/bong/desktop python keypress.py
[04:34] <sakokap> bash: /home/bong/desktop: No such file or directory
[04:35] <cemotyz09> if thats where it is it would be "python /home/bong/desktop/keypress.py"
[04:35] <Pinkamena_D> after getting 404s for apt-get update I was instructed to do a do-release-upgrade
[04:36] <Pinkamena_D> not my box is giving the "gave up waiting for root device" error
[04:36] <Pinkamena_D> now*
[04:36] <Pinkamena_D> how I can I find the list of devices and such in busybox so that I can tell grub the right one
[04:37] <cemotyz09> sakokap if you're using ubuntu 14.04 the script doesn't work either way it complains about invalid syntax for the first line, i don't know anything about scripting to help you with that though
[04:38] <daftykins> Pinkamena_D: you're going to have to boot a live session to repair that one
[04:39] <ANON-BnB> "Hello
[04:40] <daftykins> hi"
[04:41] <vu_> hi! I was wondering if we can access http://localhost:8080 from another computer in the same network? I'm using Ubuntu 12.04
[04:41] <Pinkamena_D> wow, way to kill the server.
[04:42] <sakokap> cemotyz09 ur right. im on 14.04. no luck here huh?
[04:43] <cemotyz09> yeah i don't know how to script so don't know why it says that's the wrong format
[04:44] <cemotyz09> er.. syntax
[04:51] <sakokap> cemotyz09 thanks anyway and also to reisio. :)
[04:51] <cemotyz09> no prob
[05:03] <Obiwantje> guys - I have a question- when I use system monitor and press the "resources" tab - I get a nice graph of CPU/NW/MEM - I would like something similar for total I/O - so not like iotop where I see momentary but in a line graph - does any one of you know of a tool that has this?
[05:12] <nvidia> hi.. when  shut down the computer, it refuses.. some process (unknown what process) won't terminate. How do i troubleshoot this?
[05:12] <nvidia> it's a quick red message while I'm trying to shut it down.. "killing processes .. fail" .. and then comp is shut down already
[05:13] <genoobie> how do I know which driver is being used right at the moment for my vga?
[05:13] <badbugz> genoobie, lscpi -nn -v
[05:13] <genoobie> badbugz, doesn't that give you the one at boot time?
[05:14] <genoobie> trying different video drivers and I want to see if the switch made in the GUI has actually taken effect.
[05:15] <genoobie> brb going to reboot
[05:17] <rocko2_> what version of gnome is 12.04?
[05:19] <Beldar> rocko2_, Are you running 12.04?
[05:19] <rocko2_> yes
[05:19] <rocko2_> trisquel
[05:20] <Beldar> rocko2_, look at the gnome-shell version in the software center that will tell you
[05:20] <Ozera||> I have been trying to install Windows 7 onto my Ubuntu 12.04 machine via a Win7 USB. I used unetbootin-linux-429 and gparted (also win7 64bit iso) to create the usb.
[05:20] <Ozera||> Upon booting from the USB, the windows installer tells me that I missing media drivers. This is the exact error: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2755139
[05:20] <Ozera||> anyone know whats up with these drivers?
[05:21] <Beldar> rocko2_, trisquel is not supported here they have a channel
[05:25] <genoobie> okay
[05:25] <badbugz> genoobie, lspci -nn -v
[05:25] <genoobie> the additional drivers gui seems bugged
[05:25] <badbugz> look for kernel driver in use
[05:25] <genoobie> badbugz, but that's at boot
[05:25] <genoobie> I'm using the "additional drivers" gui interface to change the driver
[05:25] <badbugz> genoobie, i fail to parse you
[05:25] <genoobie> when I reboot the driver hasn't changed
[05:26] <genoobie> I am trying to use a legacy nvidia driver vs Xorg
[05:26] <Beldar> Ozera||, That is a ##windows issue.
[05:26] <Ozera||> Beldar, they told me it was a ##ubuntu issue
[05:27] <badbugz> genoobie, what is your current working "kernel driver in use" ?
[05:27] <Beldar> Ozera||, Hardly, a windows install is a windows install, nothing to do with linux.
[05:28] <solarfly> anyone know of a program (command-line or otherwise) that lets me see mouse button press codes? I want to see if there's a way to map a gaming mouse button to actions in my linux environment
[05:29] <badbugz> solarfly, xev
[05:29] <solarfly> ah, that's the one! thanks badbugz
[05:29] <badbugz> np
[05:30] <genoobie> lshw -c video shows nouveua
[05:30] <Beldar> Ozera||, You can call microsoft help.
[05:30] <genoobie> nouveau I mean
[05:30] <badbugz> so what's wrong with nouveua?
[05:30] <genoobie> but I just used the gui to change it to nvidia
[05:31] <genoobie> badbugz, jumpy on some video / flash
[05:31] <badbugz> genoobie, first off, check if your chip is supported by the nvidia driver
[05:31] <genoobie> badbugz, it is
[05:31] <solarfly> badbugz confirmed what I was thinking, the thumb trigger on my corsair isn't recognized by X
[05:32] <Beldar> Ozera||, MS Support, 1 (800) 642-7676
[05:32] <solarfly> I could probably use windows to write a hardware profile to the mouse that simply outputs a keyboard combination to launch my terminal
[05:33] <genoobie> brb
[05:35] <Ozera||> Beldar, ... thanks for the help
[05:36] <Beldar> Ozera||, No problem. ;)
[05:44] <jhon> visit this website www.SoccerTips4Sure.com i won nice money , they are very good
[05:49] <mnathani> I just installed ubuntu server, but I dont get the login prompt after reboot
[05:49] <mnathani> last line is : adding swap on /dev/sdb1
[05:50] <mnathani> does it matter if I only have 8gb of swap with 24 GB of ram?
[05:53] <raj> is my date/time synched to any server by default?
[05:54] <patrick_> does linux support needforspeed racing game?
[05:54] <patrick_> or its only windows ?
[05:55] <solarfly> vi +228 helper.sh
[05:55] <solarfly> woops, sorry
[05:55] <patrick_> does linux support needforspeed racing game?
[05:56] <patrick_> heh
[05:56] <patrick_> nobody can answer?
[05:58] <patrick_> does linux support needforspeed racing game?
[05:58] <patrick_> or its only windows ?
[05:59] <daftykins> persistent little fellow aren't we?
[05:59] <solarfly> patrick, did you try google? http://bit.ly/1kg4EYn
[05:59] <daftykins> look up the game.
[05:59] <solarfly> I mean seriously
[05:59] <patrick_> sorry
[05:59] <solarfly> patrick the link I just put goes to NFS2 youtube running on Ubuntu
[06:00] <cfhowlett> Trying to upgrade 12.04 to 14.04.1 from ISO image ... no longer possible?  tutorial link?  thanks in advance.
[06:00] <patrick_> ok thanks
[06:06] <Artemis3> patrick_, does the game says its for linux?
[06:21] <cfhowlett> Trying to upgrade 12.04 to 14.04.1 from ISO image, no USB ... is this still possible?  is there a tutorial link?  thanks in advance.
[06:34] <debian88> Hi there
[06:34] <debian88> how shall I use Gparted to wipe a usb drive completely.
[06:35] <cfhowlett> debian88 gparted isn't the right tool for that.  try bleachbit
[06:36] <debian88> I've used gparted to do that before , just forgot the method these days
[07:01] <gartral> jey all, anyone here have a t-mobile 3g/4g account and having problems? I'm getting an http 400 error on every page I try to visit.. it's very frustrating
[07:05] <k9-> need some cracker
[07:21] <terp_> test
[07:24] <solarfly> terp_: all your tests are belong to us
[07:31] <k9-> need someone to crack md5 hashes
[07:33] <imie> I want to download Kubuntu 14.10 via BitTorrent but I don't see the link.
[07:36] <Bigpet>  can you guys tell me how the pkg-config file is usually provided for in lib packages?
[07:36] <Bigpet> is that done by upstream with some make target to generate a *.pc file
[07:36] <Bigpet> or is that the packagers task?
[07:41] <miggym> @find pyscho-pass 02 720p
[07:44] <nikitha> anyone using oracle database on ubuntu 14.04 ?
[07:46] <imie> Hello. Is Kubuntu with KDE 5 Plasma usable?
[07:46] <Beldar> !ask | nikitha
[07:47] <nikitha> ubottu: i obey
[07:48] <nikitha> ubottu: i will follow ur directions
[07:48] <nikitha> ubottu: i was testing ...
[07:49] <nikitha> Beldar: i want to install oracle db on ubntu 14.04 ? please help, few say that oracle directly wont support to install on ubuntu for that there is oracle enterprise linux (oel) is there, but could you help any version oracle can be installed on ubuntu 14.04 ?
[07:51] <Bigpet> nikitha: why don't you try and then ask when you are running into problems
[07:52] <Beldar> nikitha, This channel is a state the issue for help no please help me. I was just prompting you to address the actual issue.
[07:54] <gabkdlly> imie: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/14.10/alpha-1/
[07:55] <gabkdlly> imie: I have not tested Kubuntu, but at this link you will find torrents for the current alpha.
[07:57] <imie> gabkdlly: Thank You.
[08:06] <Abhishek_> I have multi monitor setup (ATI Radeon HD7730M laptop + 22" screen) and the login screen doesn't come in the proper resolution/setup like post-login. When I press enter after entering my password, I see the wallpaper tiled strangely, before it shows my desktop.
[08:15] <miggym> Abhishek_: i had a similar problem
[08:15] <dreamon> when will be possible to update 12.04.4 to 14.04.1 ?
[08:15] <miggym> Abhiskek_: installing a patched lightdm greeter solved it for me: https://launchpad.net/~kalgasnik/+archive/ubuntu/lightdm-gtk-greeter-background
[08:16] <hipitihop_> After an momentary power cut my boot process shows various SError on my ata1: including status: {DRDY} and Dispar BadCRC, can someone point me at how to resolve this please
[08:19] <hipitihop_> is there an image pastebin ? I have taken a screen shot
[08:20] <imran_> i need to create a xml file for fonts named .fonts.conf in my home directory but where exactly i am not sure
[08:23] <Abhishek_> miggym: Do I have to perform any additional steps after installing that package?
[08:23] <imran_> i need to create a xml file for fonts named .fonts.conf in my home directory but where exactly i am not sure
[08:29] <miggym> Abhishek_: i rebooted after i installed and the messed up login resolutions was fixed for me. if your experience differs, you probably have to try something else entirely
[08:29] <Abhishek_> k
[08:31] <Lartza> How do I configure ntp to just synchronize my clock and not serve time?
[08:31] <Lartza> Does noserve still break something?
[08:32] <Lartza> also I just realized I have ufw so it should be impossible to sync nvm :P
[08:34] <imran_> does any one know here where to place the .conf.font xml file?
[08:35] <imran_> *.fonts.conf
[08:35] <Guido1> i heard something about a free ubuntu cloud account where i can upload files. where can i find more information on it? Iḿ searching for backup for 1 TB
[08:36] <imran_> ubuntu one file storage is closing down
[08:37] <Loshki> Guido1: Ubuntu one shut down. Try http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/three-alternatives-ubuntu-one
[08:38] <gabkdlly> dreamon: Last time I checked, urrent images let you install while leaving your /home/ directory intact. The installer will try to reinstall all the packages that you had installed, but in my experience that does not always work. Does this meet your needs ?
[08:38] <abailarri> Hello. After to update my ubuntu 14, the network icon of the top panel desapared. Anyone know how to put again?
[08:39] <Guido1> Loshki: thanks. Do you have an advice what the best option is to backup 1 TB? I heard that DVDs and CDs stay longer good than HDDs, but 1 TB would be quite a lot of disks
[08:40] <meganerd> Guido1: 3-2-1
[08:41] <Guido1> meganerd: what is "3-2-1"?
[08:41] <meganerd> Guido1: 3 copies (at least) of your data, on 2 different media, with at least 1 offsite
[08:41] <dreamon> gabkdlly, No I want simply update by normal usage of system update.. thought it would be released on 24.july.. but still nothin to update
[08:42] <meganerd> Guido1: 1tb is an interesting amount of data to backup.  WHat is your budget?
[08:42] <Guido1> meganerd: okee, bit expencive for me. which media do you suggest?
[08:42] <Guido1> meganerd: I'm a student zo a quite smal amount
[08:42] <meganerd> Guido1: I use a drive array and offsite via rackspace
[08:43] <meganerd> Guido1: a btrfs raid one array might be a good start, though you really want to look at having a copy somewhere else.
[08:45] <Guido1> meganerd: what is " btrfs raid one array "? is there a special type of HDD or other media which is better for a backup?
[08:45] <Loshki> Guido1: With a cloud service, how long is it gonna take you to upload 1TB? I think the only affordable solution is hard drive copies. What are the data, may I ask?
[08:46] <Guido1> the main problem I see is that the HDD fails after some time and in case of that I need a backup
[08:46] <meganerd> Guido1: btrfs is a file system that is slightly more resistant to damage over time.  basically there are two normal hard drives that btrfs keeps a copy of your data on each drive
[08:46] <dominik> hello. can u tell me what i have to do to prevent laptop from suspending while download sth in web browser?
[08:47] <meganerd> Guido1: btrfs does per block checksumming so if there is damage to a file, and there is a duplicate, the file system just fixes the damage in the background.
[08:47] <meganerd> gotta run, ciao
[08:48] <Guido1> Loshki: one 1 TB drive with multimedia. I also have an 300 GB data drive and 500 GB free. so i can backup the data. i'm mainly using external drives so spred along comuters there are also some 100 GB free space
[08:49] <Guido1> the main problem for me is that drives stop working - mechanical error
[08:50] <snufft> ?paste
[08:50] <snufft> hey guys
[08:51] <snufft> would anyone have the foggiest as to why I'm getting such bad ping on a server? the server itself is a 4 day old vps and I only installed mysql and nginx. it's not even serving anything yet: http://pastebin.com/eqdupTjh
[08:51] <snufft> if anyone else could ping it and tell me if they're getting similar results, that'd be great :)
[08:52] <snufft> cpu usage is at 0% on the machine, memory usage is less than 10%
[08:53] <snufft> it just cycles like that forever, huge latency  that tapers down to something normal, then huge latency that tapers down into normal, repeat
[08:53] <alxy> hello... Im eperiencing exactly this error here: http://www.queryadmin.com/921/connect-unix-var-run-php5-fpm-sock-failed/ However, I dont want to switch from sockets to tcp connection. Is there an chance to get this working without having to change? I found out the following: I can start/restart the service and it appears to work properly (no errors). However, I cant find it directly after the start in the process list: http://paste.ub
[08:54] <Loshki> Guido1: yes, drives fail, like all media. I think the most affordable answer is (software) raid over multiple hard drives, which have never been cheaper...
[08:55] <Guido1> Loshki: but how does software help in case the read heads are damaged?
[08:55] <s3jjss> can I use mutt directly without installing anything else on the server to send to external email addresses?
[08:56] <s3jjss> I just want to email some files... no imap/pop mail required
[08:57] <s3jjss> i tried mail but it did not send any mail
[08:57] <Guido1> and i have the idea that drives survive the same time. so if one is pbroken itś likely that the other brakes soon too or has it to do with the amount of use and are ther DRIVES WHICH LAST LONGER? (HDD, SSD, real and virtual storrage, ...)
[08:58] <Loshki> Guido1: please read up on raid1 at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO-1.html#ss1.2
[09:02] <Loshki> Guido1: No-one really knows which drives last longest. So set your disks up in raid, and use as many different drive manufacturers as possible, to try & increase the distribution of failure times. And monitor them using SMART...
[09:08] <Loshki> s3jjss: mail requires that you also configur a backend (e.g. sendmail) to do the heavy lifting. Apparently so too does mutt --> http://dev.mutt.org/trac/wiki/MuttFaq/Sendmail, so the answer is no. If you have browser access most services e.g. gmail don't require sendmail support, so should work.
[09:09] <Loshki> And...I'm talking to myself...
[09:45] <Battistino> hello
[09:51] <potatoe2> hello, i have a few questions
[09:51] <potatoe2> i have a botched ssd (for some reason)
[09:51] <potatoe2> my data partition is mounting fine
[09:51] <potatoe2> and i can dd it off if i want to
[09:51] <potatoe2> but its not booting
[09:52] <potatoe2> i dont actually know much about the EFI boot system because I use legacy mode grub2 on gentoo as a default computer
[09:52] <potatoe2> can someone tell me how to make it boot grub (even into rescue mode)
[09:53] <sennn> hi
[09:56] <biledemon> Hello. I've understand the recommended swap size is as much as your RAM, but is it ok to have less than that? I'm not going to be using hibernate.
[09:57] <jelly-home> biledemon: yes, it's ok.  In fact, if you're not going to use it for hibernation, you can easily limit the size to not more than 2GB
[09:57] <Ben64> biledemon: depends on how much ram you have and what you plan to be doing kind of
[09:58] <biledemon> I have 8gb. I will be doing a lot of gaming.
[09:59] <Ben64> biledemon: yeah then you don't need 8GB of swap, 2GB would be fine, like jelly-home said
[09:59] <Ben64> it's more of a concern if you have a low amount of ram, like 1GB or 2GB maybe
[09:59] <biledemon> Ben64, Good to hear! 8 felt a bit unnecessary
[10:01] <Ben64> biledemon: i actually have 8GB of ram myself, and a 2GB swap partition, which is almost always unused
[10:01] <usbctrl> is update-rc.d still a valid way on 14.04?
[10:02] <sennn> why ubuntu not based on Gentoo?
[10:02] <usbctrl> gentuntu
[10:02] <trijntje> sennn: because its based on debian
[10:03] <alex_vincen>  Anytime when I connect to a website that use google fonts library, it takes long time to connect fonts.googleapis.com. Is there any way to solve this problem?
[10:03] <usbctrl> trijntje, you seem to know things. is update-rc.d still ok or is there better method these days?
[10:04] <trijntje> usbctrl: I'm afraid I dont know about that, sorry
[10:04] <usbctrl> trijntje, all good
[10:06] <sennn> trijntje: i mean why not use gentoo instead of Debian ?
[10:07] <trijntje> sennn: because gentoo is all about compiling stuf yourself, which is not sensible for 99% of ubuntu users
[10:09] <sennn> why not release ubuntu distri like Chromium OS does?
[10:10] <jelly-home> sennn: what does chromium os do?
[10:10] <trijntje> sennn: these questions do not make much sense, I dont even know how chromium os is released
[10:11] <sennn> alright then
[10:16] <sennn> since 2009 ubuntu said the team was working on android compatibility,what it can do now?
[10:17] <bekks> sennn: Whats your actual question?
[10:17] <bekks> sennn: What do you want to do?
[10:17] <ImJune> hello using rythmbox causes me to lose audio
[10:17] <ImJune> any suggestions
[10:19] <sennn> we need android apps Compatible with ubuntu
[10:19] <trijntje> sennn: http://www.ubuntu.com/phone
[10:19] <ImJune> I would like to get ubuntu running on my old galaxy s
[10:19] <ImJune> would be great
[10:21] <sennn> not just phone ,i mean ubuntu laptop  desktop have android Application Compatibility Layer !
[10:22] <trijntje> too much work, and whats the point? People who want to use android apps are better of using android
[10:30] <usbctrl> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPCj6rm2cLg :)
[10:32] <usbctrl> more seriously is anyone using CMU sphinx?
[10:32] <usbctrl> (under ubuntu)
[10:33] <bekks> usbctrl: Whats "CMU sphinx"?
[10:33] <usbctrl> bekks, speech recognition
[10:33] <bekks> usbctrl: And whats your question about it? :)
[10:33] <usbctrl> bekks, omg. are you using it?
[10:34] <usbctrl> (is it any good) ?
[10:34] <bekks> usbctrl: I was using it a long time ago, and it works.
[10:34] <usbctrl> bekks, if you watch the youtube video, it doesn't pick up the user's voice at all
[10:34] <usbctrl> bekks, i did too some 5 odd years back
[10:34] <bekks> I wont watch the video :)
[10:34] <bekks> usbctrl: Do you have a specific question about it?
[10:35] <usbctrl> bekks, nah
[10:35] <usbctrl> bekks, if you're using it currently, i am interested how good it is
[10:35] <bekks> usbctrl: It works. You have to test it out yourself to see wether it meets your requirements.
[10:36] <usbctrl> bekks, i am sick of typing on irc
[10:36] <usbctrl> bekks, np
[10:36] <usbctrl> i'll give it a go
[10:36] <samurai> ciao a tutti vorrei installare kde 3.14
[10:36] <samurai> uso xubuntu
[10:37] <bekks> !it | samurai
[10:42] <IChaseTrains> Hi, keyboard shortcuts won't work in xubuntu for the first 30 sec or so after xubuntu has started up.. but I can easily and quickly start applications trough the application menu (and the programs starts immediately). The shortcuts I've executed are executed all at once about 30 sec later (and after 30 sec, every shortcuts starts instantly). How do I troubleshoot this?
[10:42] <stalkerf> hello
[10:44] <mojtaba> Hi, I have script and I want to run some part of it, if it is not copied in home directory. (The script is going to cooy itself to home directory.) hence that part of the code should run once.
[10:44] <mojtaba> How can I compare some part of strings with each other?
[10:47] <z3r0> hello
[10:48] <_odie> hi, i'm using the proprietary fglrx driver on a 14.04 installation. to really activate the driver power profiles i had to manually exec `aticonfig --initial`. now after suspend the driver does not load correctly (the fan still spins and doesn't go into powersave mode as on bootup)
[10:51] <_odie> the fanspeed with aticonfig --pplib-cmd "get fanspeed 0" is 35% instead of the usual 10%
[10:59] <reversiblean> Ubuntu Online Accounts cannot authorize freenode account when a password is entered.
[11:01] <shadej> good evening
[11:01] <shadej> I have a dual boot pc( windows and ubuntu) now I want to remove the ubuntu, how can I?
[11:02] <ikonia_> shadej: delete the partition and re-apply the windows boot loader
[11:02] <reversiblean> Here's how: Delete windows partition and boot back to ubuntu :D
[11:02] <ikonia> reversiblean: don't be stupid
[11:02] <shadej> ikonia_: sorry for not clarifying  but I dont have windows CD I want to do it using ubuntu itself
[11:03] <ikonia> reversiblean: he didn't ask for that
[11:03] <ikonia> shadej: that's not going to be realistic
[11:03] <ikonia> shadej: the guy in ##windows can walk you through options to replace the windows boot loader
[11:04] <trijntje> shadej: you can use ubuntu to restore the windows bootloader
[11:04] <reversiblean> Why Ubuntu online accounts cannot authorize a freenode account when the password field is filled?
[11:05] <shadej> trijntje: okay how?
[11:05] <ikonia> reversiblean: ubuntu is nothing to do with ubuntu
[11:05] <ikonia> shadej: you have to be very careful with dd
[11:05] <reversiblean> mean?
[11:05] <cnu-> When compiling a modified kernel as in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel , will it overwrite the old one? I want it to have a new name, so I can boot the official one when I break something
[11:05] <ikonia> shadej: you put the windows boot loader "file" that grub is using back onto the mbr of the disk
[11:05] <trijntje> shadej: you can use a program called ms-sys, you can download it from sourceforge
[11:05] <ikonia> shadej: there are easier ways/tools to do it that the guys in ##windows can explain
[11:06] <ikonia> cnu-: you shouldn't really be doing it if that's the question you're asking
[11:06] <ikonia> reversiblean: meaning freenode does not set any auth linked against ubuntu services
[11:06] <shadej> ikonia: okay going to ##windows
[11:07] <reversiblean> then why ubuntu add that password field if it does not work?
[11:07] <ikonia> reversiblean: ubuntu is nothing to do with freenode from an auth system
[11:09] <reversiblean> ikonia: I understand but features in the online accounts belongs to ubuntu.
[11:09] <ImJune> Hi hi
[11:09] <ikonia> reversiblean: what features ?
[11:09] <ikonia> reversiblean: can you take a screen shot of what you are talking abot please.
[11:09] <ikonia> about
[11:09] <ImJune> Oh god
[11:10] <ImJune> very buggy this 14.04lts
[11:10] <ImJune> but its pretty
[11:10] <ikonia> ImJune: if you want help - just state your problem
[11:10] <legend> I was upgrading "firefox" from terminal. The package to be updgraded was about 39 MB. Then i accidentally i closed the terminal when package was about 80% downloaded. Now can i resume that package from 80% ? It not, how do i clean the broken download that is present somewhere in hard disk ?
[11:10] <ikonia> legend: it will restart the download
[11:11] <ikonia> legend: just re-do the apt-get command
[11:13] <legend> ikonia, I am issuing this command:- "sudo apt-get install firefox". Am i doing this right ? I can see that package is downloading right from start i.e 1%, 2% etc.
[11:14] <ikonia> legend: correct
[11:14] <ikonia> legend: however firefox should already be installed
[11:14] <ikonia> legend: so that should do nothing
[11:14] <ikonia> legend: is this an ubuntu install or some other version ?
[11:16] <legend> ikonia, Firefox is already installed on this old ubuntu machine. I am just trying to updgrade Firefox "only" from version 23 to version version 31 which is the latest i guess.
[11:16] <ikonia> legend: "install" will not "upgrade" anything
[11:17] <ikonia> legend: if you do "install" and the package is already installed it should say " package already installed"
[11:17] <ikonia> legend: where are you trying to get an upgraded package from ?
[11:19] <geirha> actually, if there is a newer version available, running apt-get install a package will upgrade that package
[11:19] <legend> ikonia: Believe me, i did it earlier by same route. I read somewhere in forum that if the current package on a ubuntu system is older version that "sudo apt-get install pakage_name" command upgrade the selected package from older version to newest version. I just did it with chromium browser and it worked!
[11:19] <legend> geirha, Yes :)
[11:20] <Janusz> Hello. Is it possible to install KDE 5 Plasma on Ubuntu 14.04?
[11:21] <ikonia> legend: it really shouldn't
[11:21] <ikonia> install should not "upgrade" anything
[11:21] <geirha> it installs a newer version if available, else it will say already installed
[11:22] <ImJune> I guess my audio is only broken for playing mp3 files
[11:22] <ikonia> legend: and again - where are you trying to get the upgraded package from
[11:22] <ikonia> geirha: that is not listed in the man page nor expected behaviour
[11:22] <ImJune> I have been cranking away trying to fix this on my own
[11:22] <geirha> ikonia: yes it is
[11:22] <ImJune> 2014 imac
[11:22] <ikonia> the only time this would happen if a different repo is providing it
[11:23] <legend> ikonia, A second
[11:23] <geirha> man apt-get, under install: «This is also the target to use if you want to upgrade one or more already-installed packages without upgrading every package you have on your system.»
[11:23] <ikonia> geirha: got it in the man page - good spot
[11:24] <ikonia> geirha: the syntax for the was upgrade $package so I don't understand why install i snow doing this
[11:26] <geirha> I've used that feature since at least 8.04, and on occation I've written upgrade pkgname instead of install pkgname, and only the latter has worked for me.
[11:26] <ImJune> Im abck
[11:26] <ImJune> back
[11:28] <imran_> i am unable to generate a pgp key?
[11:28] <reversiblean> Why isn't the low resolution boot splash after installing nvidia not fixed by default? I fixed mine by adding GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX var in grub config. But I'm not sure if it's the best solution.
[11:28] <imran_> in ubuntu?
[11:29] <snufft> would anyone have any idea why this is happening? The machine is at 0% load and only has an install of mysql and nginx on it.... it's not even serving anything :( http://pastebin.com/eqdupTjh
[11:29] <imran_> i am unable to generate a pgp key ? in ubuntu?
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> !pgp
[11:31] <geirha> snufft: Last time I got weird behavior like that, it turned out another machine by accident had gotten the same IP address
[11:31] <imran_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/100281/how-do-i-make-a-pgp-key
[11:31] <imran_> not working
[11:31] <snufft> geirha, thank you very much :) that would explain a couple of other things as well :)
[11:31] <snufft> geirha++
[11:31] <legend> ikonia, Here is my old version of Firefox:- http://i.imgur.com/2NHj03v.png    .And here is upgrading of firefox package from same apt-get install package_name command:- http://i.imgur.com/IaGI9Su.png
[11:32] <k1l> imran_: _what_ is not working. give more details and error messages
[11:32] <legend> And thank you ikonia and geirha for the help. Firefox is up to date now.
[11:33] <ikonia> legend: I'm not asking the versions
[11:33] <ikonia> legend: I'm asking "where did you get the package" to do the upgrade
[11:33] <imran_> i followed the instructions to generate a gpg key using passwords and keys
[11:33] <legend> From conventional ubuntu official repositories i guess.
[11:34] <imran_> but after entering all details i don't see the key
[11:34] <imran_> listed
[11:34] <ikonia> snufft: your network sucks
[11:34] <ikonia> snufft: 64 bytes from 23.95.25.246: icmp_seq=5 ttl=52 time=156 ms
[11:34] <snufft> ikonia, is it dropping any packets for you?
[11:35] <ikonia> snufft: no
[11:35] <geirha> legend: apt-cache policy firefox   says where the various versions come from
[11:35] <imran_> @kill so what should i do?
[11:35] <ikonia> snufft: your isp has ICMP echo disabled at one of the edge routers though
[11:35] <imran_> @kll
[11:36] <ikonia> snufft: http://pastebin.com/H48NGCJF
[11:36] <ikonia> snufft: see where performance sucks and data is lost
[11:36] <imran_> k1L
[11:37] <snufft> ikonia, what command is this from?
[11:37] <ikonia> mtr
[11:38] <legend> geirha, ty.
[11:38] <legend> ikonia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7864904/
[11:38] <ikonia> legend: and you're running preceise ?
[11:39] <legend> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS Codename: Precise
[11:39] <pixlepix> Running Ubuntu 14.04 on an Early 2011 (8 1) Macbook Pro. I can't seem to install proprietary drivers for my graphics card.
[11:41] <pixlepix> Going into the 'Additional Drivers' section, only one airport driver appears
[11:41] <imran_> thanks i got where the keys are stored
[11:41] <TrainChasert> hi. when I start xfce it takes time before my pressed keyboard shortcuts is executed. After 30 sec after boot, they all start at once (the ones I started via shortcuts). After that, all shortcuts executes immediately. Help please :D
[11:42] <pixlepix> Graphics card details: http://pastebin.com/1WfycME0
[11:42] <Shafiq> I just installed XChat-Gnome IRC on my machine, saying hallo to the world
[11:43] <TrainChasert> well, hello
[11:43] <imran_> hello
[11:43] <imran_> shafiq hello
[11:43] <imran_> #imran
[11:43] <Shafiq> can some one tell me how can i connect to irc://irc.freenode.net/django-sprint
[11:43] <imran_> how do i tag someone here
[11:44] <ikonia> Shafiq: /join #dhango-sprint
[11:44] <imran_> bye amigos
[11:44] <Shafiq> it worked @ikonia
[11:44] <Shafiq> thanks
[11:48] <usbctrl> i am using 14.04. how to resize my cursor size?
[11:49] <usbctrl> unity tweak tool doesn't seem to be doing it
[11:50] <ubuntu_> sports
[11:50] <plasku> Hi folks, Is it possible to shrink the 14.04 desktop ISO to fit on a 1G usb stick?
[11:50] <ikonia> plasku: no
[11:50] <ikonia> plasku: the image size is the image size
[11:50] <ikonia> plasku: if it doesn't fit on your device, you need a bigger device
[11:50] <usbctrl> hey ikonia how are you buddy
[11:51] <plasku> ikonia: rats :) can I use the minimal ISO, and "upgrade" it to the normal Unity desktop one?
[11:51] <plasku> hmm, or I guess I'll just do a net install.
[11:51] <ikonia> plasku: I wouldn't suggest that unless you know what you are doing
[11:51] <usbctrl> hmm how big is the iso?
[11:51] <ikonia> plasku: I'd suggest buying media that fits the image
[11:51] <ikonia> usbctrl: I though it was under 1GB
[11:52] <plasku> It's about 984 Mb, not big enough to fit on my stick.
[11:52] <usbctrl> plasku, do a pxe install
[11:52] <ikonia> that seems overkill
[11:52] <usbctrl> why
[11:53] <ikonia> you need a second machine, with a full network boot system setup
[11:53] <plasku> I have that
[11:53] <ikonia> rather than paying $12 for a usb stick or DVD media
[11:53] <pmjdebru1jn> hi folks
[11:53] <usbctrl> sure we don't know what his options are.
[11:53] <usbctrl> why are you assuming
[11:53] <pmjdebru1jn> my Unity desktop is stuck after login merely showing my wallpaper
[11:53] <plasku> I'm stuck in this apartment, can't buy a usb stick from here.
[11:53] <ikonia> I'm not assuming anything
[11:53] <ikonia> plasku: amazon.com
[11:53] <pmjdebru1jn> google tells me to reinstall the ubuntu-desktop package, which doesn't seem to help
[11:53] <plasku> I live in Norway, and it'd take forever
[11:53] <ikonia> plasku: there are online etailers in norway
[11:54] <usbctrl> so what's a good way to fix my cursor size?
[11:54] <usbctrl> 14.04 ubuntu
[11:54] <usbctrl> ta
[11:55] <usbctrl> unity tweak tool doesn't do mouse cursor resize?
[11:56] <reversiblean> pmjdebru1jn: this might help http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears
[11:58] <usbctrl> $ gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Interface cursor-scale-factor 1.35
[11:58] <usbctrl> ^ seems to work
[11:58]  * usbctrl spoke too soon
[11:58] <pmjdebru1jn> reversiblean: I've removed all compiz configs from my homedir, and that doesn't fix it?
[11:58] <usbctrl> it's non-uniform
[12:00] <pmjdebru1jn> hmmmmr
[12:01] <usbctrl> on some apps like firefox, gnome-terminal the cursor gets big but on chrome, it gets back to the original size
[12:02] <reversiblean> pmjdebru1jn: you better ask someone else : ) I'm no expert in this.
[12:02] <usbctrl> pmjdebru1jn, love the looks of 14.04
[12:04] <usbctrl> WHERE ARE THE CONFIG FOR MOUSE CURSOR SIZE?
[12:04] <Tzunamii> mmm... caps
[12:05] <usbctrl> NOT UNIFORM
[12:07] <ikonia> please don't type in caps
[12:08] <AAmit>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER AAmit ciwdxpthsugs
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[12:09] <usbctrl> ahh right.
[12:09] <hanshenrik> err
[12:09] <hanshenrik> you friggin nggars
[12:09] <hanshenrik> still dont know how to make a friggin wifi driver
[12:09] <hanshenrik> err, i mean, i have a problem
[12:09] <hanshenrik> on my dualboot ubuntu & windows laptop, Windows 7 has much better range on wifi
[12:10] <hanshenrik> at my current room, Linux cannot connect at all
[12:10] <hanshenrik> i have to go downstairs to connect from linux
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> usbctrl  try this http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/10/how-to-change-mouse-cursor-size-and.html  <-- 12.04, may be the same for 14.04
[12:10] <usbctrl> MonkeyDust, ta
[12:10] <usbctrl> actually i think i've already tried this one MonkeyDust
[12:11] <usbctrl> let me re-read it
[12:11] <MonkeyDust> usbctrl  first hit in the search engine
[12:11] <usbctrl> yep
[12:11] <usbctrl> :)
[12:11] <ImJune> terrible
[12:11] <ImJune> I have done everything
[12:12] <ImJune> sound seems to be broken for playing MP3 on anything and broken in chrome only
[12:12] <BhAwN> Which command line browser should I use with my Ubuntu 14.04?
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> BhAwN  lynx and links2 come to mind
[12:13] <usbctrl> MonkeyDust, the change is not instantaneous as advised by the blogger.
[12:13] <Pici> BhAwN: w3m is the default that comes with ubuntu server.
[12:13] <BhAwN> They any good?
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> BhAwN  they're good if you like them
[12:14] <ImJune> hmm if I pay for ubuntu there will be people whom fix this for me?
[12:14] <ImJune> lol
[12:14] <ImJune> I can pay no problem
[12:15] <pmjdebru1jn> usbctrl: ?
[12:16] <usbctrl> pmjdebru1jn, ??
[12:16] <BhAwN> lynx supports https?
[12:16] <BhAwN> and other stuff?
[12:16] <usbctrl> sure it should
[12:16] <usbctrl> at least the font in non-uniform across apps
[12:17] <usbctrl> maybe i need a reboot
[12:17] <usbctrl> but wait that was windows
[12:17] <pmjdebru1jn> 14:02 < usbctrl> pmjdebru1jn, love the looks of 14.04
[12:17] <usbctrl> anyway...
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> usbctrl  idd, reboot = the windows-trick
[12:18] <usbctrl> pmjdebru1jn, ahh. coming from various distros and other OSes, 14.04 is quite nice
[12:18] <usbctrl> MonkeyDust, i'll do that actually.
[12:18] <usbctrl> :)
[12:18] <pmjdebru1jn> it sure is
[12:22] <ImJune> yepp its official ubuntu on Imac is a match made in hell
[12:22] <blaaa> I think apparmor has some major issues on 14.04... partly completed profiles and most importantly not working tools, even aa-logprof is stuck now on my computer...
[12:23] <arun__> hi guys
[12:23] <arun__> where can I get Pbuilder support ?
[12:23] <ikonia> blaaa: log bugs against any incoplete profile
[12:25] <suore> Hellow i have problem with my desktop
[12:25] <suore> https://www.dropbox.com/s/9aykr6llnk5u5xy/Zrzut%20ekranu%20z%202014-07-26%2014%3A20%3A44.png
[12:25] <pmjdebru1jn> right
[12:25] <blaaa> @iconia: I'll look into it, I need to profile the services anyway so logging that is hardly an effort, but that will take time...
[12:25] <pmjdebru1jn> so wiping dconf seems to have helped
[12:26] <blaaa> @iconia: also the tools still not working is very inconvenient
[12:27] <blaaa> @ikonia: sorry, for my misspelling your nick
[12:28] <ikonia> blaaa: not a problem
[12:31] <user__> hey
[12:31] <ChaseTrains> Hi. I just want to know how I can troubleshoot the following issue: when xfce4 just has started and I use any of the keyboard shortcuts, nothing happens until about 30 seconds later (where all the pressed shortcuts are executed all at once). After that, for the rest of the session, shortcuts are executed immediately. It's not HDD/hardware-Busy/CPU-lag. If I start i.e. the webbrowser from the app-menu, it starts
[12:31] <ChaseTrains> immediately.
[12:31] <user__> what is this
[12:31] <MonkeyDust> user__  this is the ubuntu support channel
[12:32] <user__> what is Xchat
[12:32] <Giora> Irc client
[12:33] <jelly-home> user__: a program to connect to irc servers, old chat protocol
[12:33] <user__> is it just for evreyone or a specifit computer
[12:33] <jelly-home> everyone!
[12:33] <user__> specific*
[12:33] <user__> this  was built in
[12:33] <user__> i guess
[12:35] <user__> can you guys tell me how to use my comp.
[12:35] <user__> im not joking...wtf is this
[12:35] <ChaseTrains> user__: ?
[12:35] <Giora> user__, could you be more specific?
[12:35] <compdoc> user__, they are goosd for doig your taxes with, and thats about it
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> user__  the same way you learned how to use windows or mac: by using it
[12:35] <ChaseTrains> user__: it's a chat client, that connects to irc-chat servers
[12:35] <compdoc> *good
[12:35] <user__> idk what kind of comp it is
[12:36] <user__> it has a applications at the bottom
[12:36] <user__> they all suck
[12:36] <ChaseTrains> user__: is it a laptop or a desktop?
[12:36] <user__> desktop
[12:37] <user__> it has the game iagno
[12:37] <checoimg> Can some one help to convert an image sequence without having to read the whole AVCONV manual  ?
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> checoimg  you mean some kind of slide show? or an animated gif?
[12:39] <ChaseTrains> user__: where did you get the computer from?
[12:39] <checoimg> Just images
[12:39] <ChaseTrains> user__: did you install ubuntu by yourself?
[12:39] <checoimg> Images and convert to ... you know AVCONV
[12:39] <user__> i didnt install
[12:40] <ChaseTrains> user__: if you want to install new software, go to the ubuntu software center, it's like app-store or google-play
[12:40] <tiblock> Hi. Is do-release-upgrade done for 12.04?
[12:40] <user__> i saw xchat in an office setting
[12:40] <user__> network**
[12:40] <checoimg> PNG images
[12:41] <user__> i see Xfce 4
[12:41] <user__> so its an Xfce 4
[12:41] <user__> i guess
[12:41] <gnarlyJTO> hey
[12:41] <gnarlyJTO> koi hai
[12:42] <gnarlyJTO> any female for sex chat :)
[12:42] <checoimg> Ah  ?
[12:42] <checoimg> Wah  ?
[12:42] <gnarlyJTO> checoimg
[12:42] <gnarlyJTO> kia hua
[12:42] <checoimg> Why do you need an actual girl ?
[12:42] <Giora> gnarlyJTO you're in the wrong channel
[12:42] <checoimg> :P
[12:42] <gnarlyJTO> Lol
[12:42] <gnarlyJTO> I'm guy
[12:42] <gnarlyJTO> That's why I need a girl
[12:42] <checoimg> Just chat with someone and have  a pic
[12:42] <gnarlyJTO> :D
[12:43] <checoimg> LOL
[12:43] <gnarlyJTO> Are you female?
[12:43] <gnarlyJTO> checoimg
[12:43] <checoimg> Who's this guy ?
[12:43] <ChaseTrains> How do I find out what application it is that's executing in xfce4 (or any other desktop environment)? Google? If already know the answer, great :D. But I'm mainly asking for the method here.
[12:43] <checoimg> Here we don't mind gender
[12:43] <gnarlyJTO> Strange :P
[12:43] <gnarlyJTO> Lol
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> gnarlyJTO  alt-f4 shows a list of all the pretty girls
[12:44] <checoimg> dude are you from the past  ?
[12:44] <checoimg> yeah
[12:44] <gnarlyJTO> Lol :D
[12:44] <gnarlyJTO> hahaha.
[12:44] <checoimg> I didn't remember that
[12:44] <gnarlyJTO> There are 1537 people in this room
[12:44] <gnarlyJTO> nobody wants sex chat :P
[12:44] <gnarlyJTO> haha lol
[12:44] <checoimg> I started calling Ubuntu : Uterus Linux
[12:45] <checoimg> Maybe you can chat with Ubuntu
[12:45] <Giora> gnarlyJTO, this channel isn't the place for those chats
[12:45] <checoimg> He knows
[12:45] <checoimg> Don't give him so much credit
[12:45] <yabbouno> im trying ti install a midi keyboard, it is connected to my pc, but i think i cant run JACK server because "amidi -l" says "no sound card found" true ?
[12:45] <Giora> Alright
[12:46] <yabbouno> what can i do
[12:46] <yabbouno> :(
[12:46] <checoimg> So nobody uses AVCONV  ?
[12:46] <abailarri> Hello. After to update my ubuntu 14, the network icon of the top panel desapared. Anyone know how to put again?
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> yabbouno  #ubuntustudio is multimedia dedicated, better ask there, i guess
[12:47] <yabbouno> thank you MonkeyDust
[12:47] <thesecret> hello..
[12:47] <thesecret> any body help me
[12:47] <checoimg> The harder Ubuntu make sit for me the harder I'll erase this crapware.
[12:48] <checoimg> bye
[12:48] <thesecret> how to install flash plugin on ubuntu 10.04?
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> thesecret  10.04 desktop is no longer supported
[12:49] <thesecret> so what i can do to update my ubuntu?
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> thesecret  upgrade to 12.04 or 14.04 is an option
[12:50] <Urchin[emacs]> thesecret: first, back up your data
[12:50] <alberto> he will face issues
[12:50] <alberto> a lot of them
[12:50] <alberto> tried that, failed
[12:50] <alberto> upgrade is not an option, from 10 to 14 most of the core is changed
[12:51] <alberto> T_T
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> thesecret  frsh install of 12.04 or 14.04 would be the fastest, cleanest and easiest
[12:51] <Urchin[emacs]> I managed an update from 10.04 to 12.04
[12:51] <alberto> broke all my Ubuntu, ended on Ubuntu 14 fresh install
[12:51] <Giora> It would be easier then to update one version at a time
[12:51] <alberto> Urchin[emacs], do you know Linux and advanced stuff to fix it?
[12:52] <Urchin[emacs]> alberto: well enough
[12:52] <alberto> because if he's asking about a flash plugin maybe he isn't an advanced user :)
[12:52] <Urchin[emacs]> I did face issues during and after upgrade
[12:52] <Urchin[emacs]> just about everything died during upgrade except x and update manager
[12:52] <ChaseTrains> apt-get purge ..   does that imply remove?
[12:53] <Giora> Shouldn't it be apt-get remove --purge?
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> apt-get purge works too
[12:53] <alberto> thesecret, i won't recommend flash on that version of ubuntu due the issues, there is no updates and you may have to do all manually
[12:54] <alberto> thesecret, i can help you but still... isn't recommended
[12:54] <ChaseTrains> session saving... it doesn't save the application states, right? But merely starting the software next bootup?
[12:54] <thesecret> alberto,, \it doesnt matter,,i want to try
[12:55] <thesecret> alberto,, so all of i can do is update manually my ubuntu?
[12:56] <alberto> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:57] <thesecret> alberto,, can i know any risk if i do that command?
[12:58] <alberto> thesecret, it will enable restricted software (private) dunno if the repos are up
[12:58] <alberto> thesecret, then do this: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[12:58] <Giora> Even if they aren't he could use the archived repos
[12:58] <alberto> wait, this one sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras does have flash
[12:58] <alberto> Giora, yes
[13:01] <thesecret> E: Malformed line 56 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (URI parse)
[13:01] <thesecret> E: The list of sources could not be read
[13:01] <thesecret> E: The list of sources could not be read
[13:02] <thesecret> alberto,,thats message appear
[13:02] <thesecret> E: Malformed line 56 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (URI parse)
[13:02] <thesecret> E: Malformed line 56 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (URI parse)
[13:02] <thesecret> E: The list of sources could not be read
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> thesecret  use pastebin please
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> thesecret  and what's in that line, in that file?
[13:04] <thesecret> monkeydust,, how to check it?
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> thesecret  open the file and read it
[13:05] <thesecret> what file?
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> thesecret  /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:07] <thesecret> monkeydust    it says permission denied
[13:07] <Giora> Use sudo
[13:07] <arun_> guys, anyone used pbuilder here?
[13:09] <thesecret> giora,,  command not found
[13:09] <Giora> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:09] <Giora> That should work for you
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> thesecret  make gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> thesecret  make that gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:11] <Con7e> Hello people
[13:12] <Con7e> I am looking for a hassle free ditro
[13:12] <Con7e> *distro
[13:12] <Con7e> But has to NOT be ubuntu
[13:12] <Con7e> (Hate unity)
[13:12] <Con7e> Any ideas?
[13:12] <thesecret> monkeydust,, nothing happen,, maybe i must root?
[13:12] <Giora> You could install gnome/kde/xfce/lxde instead
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> Con7e  this is ubuntu only, if you don't like unity, do'nt use it
[13:13] <Con7e> MonkeyDust: so there is a channel for every ubuntu distro?
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> Con7e  http://i.imgur.com/3N5f6.jpg
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> Con7e  simply install a different DE, logout, switch, login
[13:13] <tr33m4n> Monkeydust https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[13:14] <tr33m4n> *Con7e
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> tr33m4n  you're addressing the wrong person
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> :)
[13:14] <tr33m4n> Realised :P
[13:15] <Con7e> tr33m4n: cool, thanks man
[13:15] <Urchin[emacs]> you can even not use any DE
[13:16] <Urchin[emacs]> and just run a window manager
[13:18] <Con7e> Urchin[emacs]: I was tempted by awesome windows manager
[13:18]  * Urchin[emacs] is running ratpoison
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> sweet name...
[13:19] <Urchin[emacs]> one problem with that is that people start asking if you're running arch
[13:19] <rebeca_> hello
[13:19] <dogman> hi, I have a hung screen session
[13:19] <rebeca_> hola
[13:19] <dogman> I can run screen -D -RR <session_name> and it hangs
[13:19] <m1dnight_> Con7e: xubuntu, perhaps
[13:19] <m1dnight_> that's ubuntu with xfce
[13:19] <dogman> I can run strace -p <pid> and it prints only "Process 2893 attached - interrupt to quit"
[13:20] <Urchin[emacs]> dogman: so kill it
[13:20] <dogman> how do I reattach to it D:
[13:20] <Con7e> m1dnight_: I don't know why but I can't get it to run :(
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> dogman  i use screen too, try screen -dr
[13:20] <m1dnight_> ow, that's strane
[13:20] <Con7e> Once installed, I get a black screen with a dash
[13:20] <dogman> I think -dr is a subset of what -D -RR does
[13:20] <Con7e> It's the only distro I can't install
[13:20] <Con7e> Or better, run
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> dogman  try it to find out
[13:20] <dogman> it hangs
[13:20] <Con7e> Because I can install it just fine
[13:20] <Urchin[emacs]> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[13:21] <Urchin[emacs]> you get everything xubuntu comes with
[13:21] <ChaseTrains> I want to run xfsettingsd as a non-daemon (because of a bug) instead as a daemon (you give it parameters --no-daemon). Can that be done (since only daemon can run in the background)?
 & ?
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> dogman  try -d -RR (lowercase d)
[13:22] <tr33m4n> ChaseTrains, I'd imagine so yes... Follow the command with '&'
[13:22] <dogman> this hangs too
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> dogman  try -D -R (single R)
[13:23] <dogman> =/
[13:23] <tr33m4n> eg. xfsettingsd --no-daemon &
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> dogman  try -R (only that)
[13:26] <dogman> screen -R 2893 seems to create a new screen
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> dogman  screen -ls ... how many sessions does it show?
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> or -list
[13:28] <dogman> the  6 i expect
[13:28] <dogman> if I run screen -R 2893 and then detach instead of terminating, it shows an additional screen with some pid other than 2893 and the name 2893
[13:28] <MonkeyDust> dogman  did you start a screen session inside another screen session?
[13:28] <dogman> no
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> odd
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> dogman  try screen -D [session number]
[13:31] <dogman> yeah the man pages suggest -R should not do that
[13:31] <dogman> weird
[13:31] <dogman> -D hangs
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> dogman  try screen -x
[13:35] <dogman> this hangs
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> dogman  at this point, i'd do killall screen
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> dogman  open a new terminal tab, what does      ps aux | grep screen      show
[13:38] <dogman> my hung instance of screen -x and the grep process
[13:39] <MonkeyDust> can you kill the screen process?
[13:39] <alberto> how to install Gnome 3 latest?
[13:40] <dogman> sure
[13:40] <dogman> I could also have killed it with ^C >_>
[13:41] <Urchin[emacs]> dogman: kill it, start a new one
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> dogman  screen commands all fail, so that's the only thing left
[13:46] <ChaseTrains> hi. How do I edit the parameters for xfsettingsd? I've tried to edit /etc/xdg[or something]/autostart/xfsettingsd.desktop with no effect. I want to add the --no-daemon argument
[13:48] <stonelinks> Hello, how do I temporarily start or stop network-manager?
[13:49] <alberto> There is a way to have opengl support on console?
[13:49] <stonelinks> Like it is a service right, so shouldn't it be in /etc/init.d? Or available as an upstart command?
[13:49] <alberto> like images and that stuff wich i see on Opensure?
[13:50] <kingplusplus> please how do you use Ubuntu? As guest OS or as Host OS? I do a lot of development with 3 monitors in my workspace and now i found out that I would be needing windows as much as I need unbuntu probably using both everyday
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> kingplusplus  if you need ubuntu alot, use it as a host
[13:53] <ChaseTrains> xfsettingsd is started somehow.. but not via /etc/xdg/autostart/xfsettingsd.desktop . How do I find what's starting it?
[13:55] <kingplusplus> MonkeyDust, thanks in the past I used virtualbox to run windows and it was slow as hell trying to run photoshop and dreamweaver has made my Ubuntu a little slower
[13:55] <zyntux> harro
[13:55] <stonelinks> kingplusplus ubuntu host and windows guest will be faster than the opposite
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> kingplusplus  yes, dreamweaver and photoshop are windows applications, not sure how you use them in ubuntu ... or am i misunderstanding something?
[13:57] <kingplusplus> MonkeyDust, I am using them in the guest i.e windows then. When I launch dreamweaver i find out the whole systems struggles by dragging
[14:00] <MonkeyDust> kingplusplus  if you need windows alot for development, whay have it as a virtual machine? why not dualboot install windows and ubuntu?
[14:00] <MonkeyDust> why*
[14:01] <m1dnight_> what MonkeyDust said, dual boot is easy
[14:01] <kingplusplus> MonkeyDust, thats very right... for the purpose of work, I need windows, for my personal I need Ubuntu which makes both equally as important
[14:02] <kingplusplus> I also need a personal server. Maybe its better to dedicate another system for ubuntu to prevent rebooting
[14:02] <alberto> There is a way to have background images on tty's ?
[14:04] <m1dnight_> have you googled, alberto ?
[14:04] <m1dnight_> I find 3 results that seem decent
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> kingplusplus  tip: there's also #ubuntu-server
[14:05] <kingplusplus> MonkeyDust, yeah thats true
[14:05] <alberto> m1dnight_, nvm is called Framebuffer
[14:06] <shiibby> having some serious troubles with ubuntu
[14:07] <shiibby> some help??
[14:07] <AcidRain> ubuntu is leet
[14:07] <AcidRain> what you need?
[14:07] <shiibby> software center
[14:07] <AcidRain> what about it?
[14:07] <shiibby> kind off dont want to work
[14:07] <shiibby> at all
[14:08] <shiibby> sorry for being a noob
[14:08] <AcidRain> still not sure what your issue is
[14:08] <oriiiiiiiin> Are you getting any error messages or is it just not launching?
[14:08] <shiibby> it lauchs ok
[14:09] <shiibby> but everytime i try to download something
[14:09] <shiibby> even using sudo apt-get etc...  i cant
[14:10] <AcidRain> why cant u?
[14:10] <shiibby> in software center says failed to doenload repository information
[14:10] <shiibby> download*
[14:10] <AcidRain> sudo apt-get update?
[14:10] <shiibby> i tried
[14:11] <shiibby> after the update is there any other command i have to do?
[14:11] <AcidRain> and the error message was?
[14:11] <oriiiiiiiin> pastebin the error message you get from sudo apt-get update
[14:11] <tr33m4n> are you using irc on the Ubuntu system?
[14:11] <tr33m4n> *shiibby
[14:11] <shiibby> yes
[14:12] <tr33m4n> so, no internet issues then
[14:12] <shiibby> tr33m4n
[14:12] <shiibby> exectally
[14:12] <shiibby> maybe is the distro
[14:12] <shiibby> running blackbuntu for a class im takking
[14:12] <shiibby> can that be it?
[14:13] <oriiiiiiiin> you can troubleshoot it or you can make random guesses lol
[14:13] <shiibby> lol
[14:13] <oriiiiiiiin> show us the exact error and we can narrow it down
[14:13] <shiibby> tks anyways
[14:14] <tr33m4n> shiibby, blackbuntu is a different distro than Ubuntu, please seek help from their support channels
[14:14] <shiibby> gonna keep google it
[14:14] <shiibby> sorry bro
[14:14] <tr33m4n> No worries
[14:14] <shiibby> i think i misundertud then
[14:14] <shiibby> but its based in ubuntu right?
[14:14] <shiibby> tks u guys anyways
[14:15] <shiibby> long live linux!
[14:15] <tr33m4n> Yes, but the amount of changes they could have made to the way your system connects and uses the internet are infinite
[14:15] <shiibby> i thoght it culd be it
[14:15] <rava> hi every body
[14:16] <PRC_Boy> hello
[14:16] <shiibby> tks from brasil! Going back to ubuntu now!
[14:16] <Guest38510> hiiiiiiiiiii
[14:16] <tr33m4n> All the best shiibby :)
[14:24] <hermntt> Hey guys, trying to boot 14.04 server onto my HP N54l machine on a usb
[14:24] <hermntt> it detects the drive and tries to boot from it, but i just get a flashing cursor
[14:25] <hermntt> I used unetbootin to put the install on the usb so I'm fairly certain the files are okay.  Any idea of how I can troubleshoot this?
[14:27] <physixer> possibly FAQ last 48 hours: do-release-upgrade on 12.04 still doesn't offer 14.04.1. Any ideas when it'll happen?
[14:28] <Beldar> physixer, Some repos are not synced daily, I have it here.
[14:29] <physixer> that's sad to hear :(
[14:31] <Beldar> physixer, Why, you can call anyone you want, what is sad is you should know this.
[14:35] <Beldar> !md5sum | hermntt
[14:36] <linuxlue> hello
[14:37] <Beldar> hermntt, Not sure if the server install might need some graphic support for the text to show. blinking cursor generally means this, check the sum first.
[14:38] <gauravb7090> hey..I wanted to recover my lost admin password..Can anyone help please? I tried the recovery mode approach but it asks for a root maintainence password
[14:39] <gauravb7090> the rw init=/bin/bash gives me a blank screen
[14:40] <Beldar> gauravb7090, You can't recover the user password, did you make a root password?
[14:40] <stonelinks> Hey how do I stop/start network manager
[14:40] <eeee> stonelinks: sudo service network-manager stop/start
[14:40] <stonelinks> It isn't in upstart or /etc/init.d
[14:40] <eeee> (or, restart)
[14:40] <eeee> stonelinks: no that's init.d/networking
[14:40] <PRC_Boy> reinstall the OS
[14:40] <stonelinks> I'm on ubuntu GNOME 14.04
[14:41] <Beldar> !who | PRC_Boy
[14:41] <stonelinks> not vanilla ubuntu
[14:42] <stonelinks> And they have an IRC channel and told me they don't touch the networking stack and to come here
[14:42] <eeee> stonelinks: so ? i think it should work
[14:42] <Beldar> stonelinks, rea the channel you have answers.
[14:42] <Beldar> read*
[14:43] <eeee> stonelinks: to see all services type service --status-all
[14:43] <stonelinks> It isn't in /etc/init.d and it isn't in the tab complete list when I run the service
[14:43] <stonelinks> command and try to tab complete
[14:43] <stonelinks> Its running though
[14:44] <ph88> hey guys, i try to get a nice icon for my files so i try this http://askubuntu.com/a/56725  but no icon is showing
[14:46] <stonelinks> eeee it isn't in the list of upstart services
[14:47] <gauravb7090> hey can anyone help with the lost admin password please?
[14:48] <stonelinks> eeee but it is running.... http://paste.ubuntu.com/7866150/
[14:49] <saizai> http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts still not updated eh
[14:49] <sydney> gauravb7090: i would help,but have to go...
[14:49] <sydney> gauravb7090: do you want to find it,or change it? its impossible to 'find' it.
[14:50] <gauravb7090> ohh Can you please pass me on some links or something that'll help? or any other channel where I should try?
[14:50] <gauravb7090> change would be the option
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> gauravb7090  i guess yiu can do it, by bootin in recovery mode
[14:51] <sydney> gauravb7090: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[14:51] <stackj> How can I start a program from the terminal without logging output to the terminal?
[14:51] <gauravb7090> yeah I followed the instructions
[14:51] <stackj> I like to simulate a double click on a file.
[14:51] <gauravb7090> the rw init=/bin/bash gives me a blank screen
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[14:52] <MonkeyDust> stackj  add this after the command    2>/dev/null
[14:54] <stackj> MonkeyDust, more background: I like to create a desktop file for Telegram. My exec is "Exec=/opt/Telegram/Telegram" - but a terminal is opening at the same time. I don't want that.
[14:57] <MonkeyDust> stackj  and what is it supposed to do?
[14:57] <gauravb7090> PRC_Boy: Thanks for the link :) I got the root shell but not able to type in it…It shows a blinking cursor but it takes no input
[14:57] <sig-wall> hi. how to upgrade from ubuntu 12.10 if i have neither update-manager nor ubuntu-release-upgrader installed, and archive is dropped from mirror?
[14:58] <sig-wall> fetch cd?
[14:58] <stackj> MonkeyDust, it should just start up the program. Like I did a double click on it.
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> stackj  did you write the script yourself? if you're a developer, try #ubuntu-app-devel
[15:02] <stackj> MonkeyDust, I have solved it. The desktop file comprised the line "Terminal=true". I had cloned it from another desktop file (vim-note.desktop). Thanks for your help …
[15:03] <sig-wall> downloaded iso, it hasn't this packages :(
[15:03] <sig-wall> is it safe to just update entries in soruces.list and apt-get dist-upgrade?
[15:06] <tr33m4n> sig-wall, you can add the iso to the sources.list and it should update normally
[15:07] <Shafiq> can someone tell me how to address / tag the person ? like @Shafiq ?
[15:08] <Shafiq> bbye
[15:12] <oneliner> hello there, am a late adopter so please dont rant :D 13.10 has reached end of live but i have ppa's i cramed into this install to solve hardware issues; i did a lousy job at documenting which. Now the upgrade path is broken, how can i go about identifying resources on my machine that are ppa before upgrade?
[15:12] <daftykins> look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[15:12] <ikonia> oneliner: from that stance, I would suggest backing up your data and doing a clean install
[15:15] <cfhowlett_> 12.04 > 14.04 upgrade using .ISO as source: possible?
[15:15] <oneliner> ikonia i would really like to try to "sort it out", as in learning a little about "system integrity", daftykins this really looks promising, spot on, thanks
[15:15] <ikonia> oneliner: strongly advise against it
[15:16] <oneliner> ikonia thanks, i ll take that into account
[15:16] <DevDaemon> I am using ubuntu dekstop 12.04. Every thing is working fine but samba works in a sluggish way when I connect with windows file sharing server.
[15:17] <compdoc> DevDaemon, thats odd. Its always been very fast for me
[15:18] <cfhowlett_> !install > cfhowlett
[15:18] <oneliner> yeah there is one issue; these external ppa relate to ethernet and propietary video (nvidia),  if it is a requisite to remove them prior to upgrade, i need to know how to get at least a console screen
[15:19] <ikonia> console does not dpend on X11 video drivers
[15:19] <DevDaemon> compdoc, There is domain authentication and server is windows 2008 R2
[15:19] <ikonia> DevDaemon: so work it through, at what point in the connection/transfer is the latency
[15:21] <DevDaemon> ikonia, network is not the issue as the same server is acting for other services also which is working fine.
[15:21] <ikonia> I didn't say network was an issue
[15:21] <ikonia> I asked where the latency was
[15:21] <DevDaemon> I am confused could you please elaborate it.
[15:21] <oneliner> ikonia, daftykins thanks, see you peeps later
[15:22] <ikonia> at what point in your task is the performance poor - and then what part of the samba process does that relate to
[15:23] <DevDaemon> Thanks for the elaboration, I am facing it when I access any folder or while I open any file like in libre
[15:24] <ikonia> DevDaemon: ok, so is it the connection to the server or the actual transfer of the file that is slow to respond
[15:25] <DevDaemon> connection
[15:26] <Fuzzy> hey guys, ive got a question for you..
[15:26] <ikonia> DevDaemon: is the connection slow to make the initial connection, or slow to respond
[15:26] <DevDaemon> initial connection, after when I open a directory
[15:26] <Fuzzy> im planning on buying a headset (wireless) but which ones are fully supported by ubuntu?
[15:27] <ikonia> DevDaemon: opening a directory is transfer
[15:27] <Fuzzy> cant find any info on that
[15:27] <ikonia> DevDaemon: you need to seperate it into connection/response/authentication/transfer
[15:27] <DevDaemon> ok
[15:27] <DevDaemon> ok
[15:27] <ikonia> DevDaemon: find out which one is slow
[15:27] <ikonia> or how many of them are slow
[15:27] <segaboy81> Fuzzy:  I don't think it matters.  It only matters if your bluetooth reciever is compatible with Ubuntu
[15:27] <segaboy81> They usually use a2dp to connect.
[15:28] <ulkesh> Fuzzy: I'm using the Astro A50 which works well...it's pricey, though
[15:28] <DevDaemon> Only one ubuntu desktop access the windows share other are uses windows 7
[15:28] <TJ-> DevDaemon: what you have to isolate is this, is the delay caused by name resolution (DNS / NetBios), connection set-up, or data transfer. Lots of 'slow to respond' issues are due to name resolution delays
[15:28] <Fuzzy> im just really coutious coz i have a plantronics 780 (simulates 7.1) but only works as stereo... and badly
[15:29] <Fuzzy> ahh thx ulkesh
[15:29] <ulkesh> Fuzzy: It wants to use the optical S/PDIF for true surround, it has USB as a fallback for stereo
[15:29] <Fuzzy> ah ok
[15:31] <DevDaemon> TJ, I have mentioned the server ip address in host file.
[15:31] <ikonia> that is not name resolution
[15:31] <ikonia> break it down into the segments I suggest and work out which parts are slow
[15:31] <DevDaemon> ok
[15:32] <saizai> TJ-: who actually updates http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts ?
[15:33] <Fuzzy> do you need to configure anything special to get s/pdif  to work properly on ubuntu ulkesh ?
[15:33] <saizai> eg is there a pull request or bugtrack ID or something for it?
[15:33] <DevDaemon> ikonia, please suggest.
[15:34] <ulkesh> Fuzzy: No, you just choose the output/input properly in the sound settings UI...and make sure you're as up to date as possible...in 14.04 prior to some update (not sure which), the mic didn't work...it does now, flawlessly
[15:35] <Fuzzy> im on 14.04 so that shouldnt be an issue
[15:35] <ulkesh> Fuzzy: It definitely works, but I had to fiddle with getting the right input/output setting chosen, thankfully I only had a handful, but it took a little time during testing (I used teamspeak or mangler or skype to test)
[15:36] <ulkesh> Fuzzy: it's a $300 headset, hopefully will be the last one I buy for a very long time (i look at it as an investment)...been very happy with it
[15:36] <ulkesh> Fuzzy: very sturdy as well...sorry if this is a bit offtopic guys, if we want to chat more we can do it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:38] <Fuzzy> yea sorry about this.. this kinda started out as support question.. kind of still is..
[15:38] <ulkesh> Fuzzy: I made it offtopic i think,  you're fine :)
[15:38] <ph88> hey guys, i try to get a nice icon for my files so i try this http://askubuntu.com/a/56725  but no icon is showing
[15:39] <Fuzzy> i think minijack ones are always the best option.. but how would that work wireless
[15:41] <TJ-> saizai: I've been wondering that myself :)
[15:41] <DevDaemon> Thanks for support
[15:41] <saizai> TJ-: isn’t there a commit log somewhere?
[15:42] <creem> folks, how can I accuratly check the hashsomes of a burnt dvd of Ubuntu?
[15:42] <creem> cause they differ with what should the hashcodes actually be
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> !md5
[15:42] <TJ-> saizai: I've never heard of one, as far as I know it's scripted fired off by a core-dev
[15:42] <mulga> is this #chan officially endorsed by Ubuntu?
[15:42] <mulga> just curious
[15:42] <saizai> TJ-: are such core-devs present? :P
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> mulga  yes, his is the ubuntu suport channel
[15:43] <creem> well I run this command: md5sum /dev/sr0 and I get the wrong hashcodes
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> this*
[15:44] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | creem
[15:44] <mulga> MonkeyDust: ok, i see. cool. so just the same as the online forums for example? only diff platform
[15:44] <cfhowlett> oop!  sorry MonkeyDust didn't you had already sent it
[15:44] <eeee> creem: sometimes it doesn't work, checksum the iso
[15:44] <creem> i don't have the iso my friend
[15:44] <eeee> creem: run an integrity check
[15:45] <creem> I am only forced to use a live media, how is integrity check done on  a live media?
[15:45] <mulga> @ askubuntu.com i mean
[15:45] <cfhowlett> creem 2 step verification: the ISO to ensure you have  a clean download and the USB to ensure a clean burn.  Take no shortcuts = a whole lot less pain and confusion
[15:45] <creem> ok thanx
[15:45] <basketballl> how do i set up a screen saver
[15:50] <reborn> Good morning, i am trying to find a drivers install for HUION 580 (tablet graphic) since i googled it and it seem outdated, i am user ubuntu 14.04
[15:54] <cfhowlett> reborn doesn't seem to be well supported.
[15:54] <cfhowlett> or popular for that matter
[15:55] <reborn> hm, i need to clarify,  this tablet is working on ubuntu, but don't work on Krita
[15:55] <cfhowlett> reborn ask Krita support
[15:55] <cfhowlett> !info krita
[15:59] <tlanix> hello
[15:59] <tlanix> i have an issue with steam
[15:59] <tlanix> OpenGL GLX context is not using direct rendering
[15:59] <tlanix> i think my libs are not linked right or something
[15:59] <tlanix> how do i reinstall the 32bit library
[16:00] <zerosumvideogame> Have you rebooted? I get that now and then on Steam, reboot always fixes.
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> tlanix  there's also #ubuntu-steam
[16:06] <tlanix> how do i delay touchpad when typing in lubuntu 14.04
[16:07] <tlanix> im using obaif drivers
[16:19] <MrJerome> Has anyone here put Ubuntu on a Dell XPS13 (standard non-developer edition) ?
[16:20] <reisio> MrJerome: probably someone has
[16:20] <reisio> why do you ask? (:p)
[16:20] <cfhowlett> MrJerome no, but should be caveman-easy
[16:20] <MrJerome> I'm thinking about getting one and want to make sure everything will work properly
[16:21] <MrJerome> cfhowlett: lol
[16:22] <reisio> MrJerome: the "developer" edition comes with Ubuntu?
[16:22] <daftykins> MrJerome: look up the hardware for support, or the model for any comments on forums etc is the best approach i'd say
[16:22] <MrJerome> There is a Dell XPS13 Developer edition that comes with ubuntu preinstalled and one that comes with windows but has a better processor
[16:22] <daftykins> reisio: yeah Dell do an XPS13 with ubuntu
[16:22] <reisio> MrJerome: well processor support will not be an issue at all
[16:22] <daftykins> MrJerome: if everything else matches it should be fine
[16:22] <reisio> MrJerome: if the rest of the hardware is the same, you're good to go
[16:22] <MrJerome> And it is listed in the certified hardware list
[16:22] <cfhowlett> MrJerome the  drivers are readily available from dell, so adding them to plain vanilla ubuntu is easy
[16:23] <reisio> in fact unsurprisingly, GNU/Linux supports the vast majority of new processor features a few hundred thousand years before other OSes
[16:23] <reisio> we had 100% pure 64-bit systems easily 5 years ahead of the rest
[16:23] <reisio> we had 64-bit flash (ew, flash!) before anyone else
[16:23] <reisio> and we could even use it
[16:24] <MrJerome> Awesome I'll pick it up. I have a Lenovo laptop now, but suspend/resume crashes it among other problems
[16:24] <cfhowlett> MrJerome xps13 seems pretty nice, but it's not without issues ...
[16:25] <reisio> MrJerome: it wouldn't surprise me if you could fix that from the software side
[16:25] <reisio> but hey if you have extra money, throw it at your problem why not :p
[16:25] <reisio> cfhowlett: ...like... ... ? :p
[16:26] <MrJerome> Yep it's free for me. Yay work
[16:26] <cfhowlett> reisio duckduckgo is your friend ...
[16:26] <MrJerome> Plus the laptop is massive and I'm looking for something more portable
[16:26] <reisio> cfhowlett: people lacking vague scare tactics are my friends :p
[16:26] <reisio> MrJerome: ah, that's a good reason
[16:27] <reisio> they have fanless ultrabooks now
[16:27]  * reisio wantses one
[16:27] <cfhowlett> reisio hey I want one too, but coil whine and heating/fan seem to be pretty common complaints
[16:27] <MrJerome> Apparently Dell has found a fix for the coil whine this month
[16:28] <cfhowlett> MrJerome xps13?  NOT massive
[16:28] <ainx> what is a application for fix gpg key?
[16:28] <MrJerome> I mean my lenovo is massive
[16:28] <reisio> cfhowlett: isn't that something people complain about all the time for all OSes? :p
[16:29] <reisio> my problem with Dell preinstalled GNU/Linux boxes, at least last I checked, is that they are the same cost as boxes that come with an OS that would cost an ordinary person $100 extra
[16:29] <reisio> so really they're $100 overpriced :p
[16:30] <xangua> isn't oem windows $50¿
[16:32] <MrJerome> thanks for the help guys
[16:33] <reisio> xangua: probably on sale, but list is $99
[16:33] <reisio> even so, that'd still be $50 you lost
[16:33] <ChaseTrains> xfsettingsd is started without the --no-daemon argument in xubuntu, but I want it to be started with that argument. How do I set that? changing /etc/xgd/autostart/xfsettingsd.desktop doesn't change anything
[16:34] <hoofen> how can i remove swap with LVM?
[16:34] <reisio> why would you want to do that
[16:35] <hoofen> because I have an SSD that I want to preserve and enough RAM, reisio
[16:35] <Geralt> Hi, is it possible to downgrade a package on my system? In my case I want to downgrade Bash to version 4.2
[16:37] <reisio> Geralt: possible, yes
[16:37] <reisio> hoofen: k
[16:38] <reisio> hoofen: would be 'lvremove'
[16:39] <reisio> hoofen: and then you can absorb the space with lvresize, I dare say
[16:39] <reisio> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lvm
[16:39] <ChaseTrains> is there a way to just shut down a harddisk (it's not used)? I want to hear if my computer gets less noisy.
[16:41] <hoofen> reisio: so do I have to disable swap first or just go straight for removing the partition (they are still called that with LVM right?)
[16:41] <reisio> hoofen: you can disable it first if you want
[16:41] <reisio> and comment it out in /etc/fstab
[16:41] <reisio> hoofen: well technically they're probably called logical volumes, but partition wfm
[16:42] <reisio> no point getting caught up in minutia
[16:42] <reisio> (needlessly :p)
[16:42] <hoofen> so what should I change in /etc/fstab...
[16:43] <reisio> hoofen: there'll probably be a line for the swap 'partition'
[16:43] <reisio> just comment it out
[16:43] <reisio> # at beginning
[16:45] <hoofen> reisio: http://pastebin.com/aNyvZzGG
[16:45] <superstep> salve
[16:45] <SchrodingersScat> ChaseTrains: not sure about 'shut down' but there's a power setting to spin them down, and not sure what they do when unmounted
[16:46] <hmmmok> Hello. Could somebody help me make sure my linux machine has already the graphic's card's drivers installed? Thanks.
[16:46] <ChaseTrains> i solved it SchrodingersScat (hdparm can be used to "turn it off"). But do ubuntu spin down unused disks by default?
[16:47] <SchrodingersScat> ChaseTrains: don't think that was default on mine
[16:47] <ChaseTrains> :(
[16:47] <reversiblean> In ubuntu vlc when I jump in playback sound go off on ... this happens in arbitrary jump steps. version: VLC media player 2.1.4 Rincewind (revision 2.1.4-0-g2a072be)
[16:47] <reversiblean>  
[16:48] <reversiblean> Please can anybody have a look? http://pastebin.com/agFMsCBH
[16:48] <SchrodingersScat> reversiblean: how do you know that's not the file's problem?
[16:48] <reversiblean> I've tried with multiple files.
[16:49] <reisio> could just be too large a file for your hardware, too
[16:50] <reisio> ew, pulse
[16:50] <reversiblean> yup, may be. but this seems to affect every file.
[16:50] <reversiblean> I only tested .mp4 though.
[16:51] <reversiblean> once the sound is gone it won't come back. I have to jump back and fourth to get it back.
[16:52] <reisio> reversiblean: I'd check with 'mplayer'
[16:52] <reisio> if it's the same, you have a hardware problem
[16:52] <reisio> or... your pulse is insane, I'm not familiar with pulse
[16:52] <reversiblean> totem works fine
[16:53] <reversiblean> I've also tested their daily build. that did not fix either.
[16:54] <reversiblean> I mean ppa:videolan/master-daily
[16:55] <reversiblean> reisio: Do you have any idea about the 'pulse debug: underflow' message?
[16:56] <reisio> nope, sorry I don't use pulse
[16:56] <reisio> never saw the point
[16:59] <reversiblean> ok.. BTW intel have linux audio driver for my motherboard. I think it's better not try them. am i right?
[16:59] <ne0> hi
[17:01] <reisio> reversiblean: hrmm?
[17:04] <patrick-> i know this is unrelated but, playing needforspeed high graphic games on laptop is not good?
[17:04] <patrick-> i notice it overheats the cpu
[17:05] <patrick-> even when i put the graphics at low
[17:05] <reisio> patrick-: more you process, the hotter processors get
[17:05] <reisio> 't'was ever thus
[17:06] <patrick-> reisio, is it ok though?
[17:06] <patrick-> reisio, is it ok to play on laptop?
[17:06] <daftykins> patrick-: what makes you consider it to be overheating? does it power off?
[17:06] <patrick-> i check the temp
[17:06] <patrick-> the temp goes to 100
[17:06] <patrick-> which normal is like 50 and 60
[17:06] <daftykins> is it a few years old, the laptop?
[17:06] <patrick-> i can touch the computer is overheating
[17:06] <patrick-> last year
[17:07] <daftykins> did that game run fine under Windows, or overheat too?
[17:07] <reisio> 100 C?
[17:07] <patrick-> i got it last year tosiba intel corei7
[17:07] <daftykins> erk
[17:07] <patrick-> im running it on win8
[17:07] <reisio> IME things aren't broken till they're broken
[17:07] <reisio> but I also don't waste time playing computer games :p
[17:07] <daftykins> patrick-: then please do not concern us with non-ubuntu issues
[17:07] <reisio> ^
[17:08] <patrick-> what channel is there?
[17:08] <cfhowlett> patrick- ##windows
[17:08] <patrick-> on freenode for tech help?
[17:08] <daftykins> #hardware - or ##hardware
[17:08] <jackbnimb> hi.. currently running ubuntu 14.04.  see there is an update release 14.04.1.  will 14.04 update through the repositories automatically, or does the update need to be manually installed?
[17:08] <juniour> hi i have dual boot i cant mount window spartaion as rw mode in ubuntu help
[17:08] <juniour> plz
[17:08] <daftykins> jackbnimb: automatic
[17:08] <patrick-> but it wluld do the same in linux
[17:09] <patrick-> hello
[17:09] <jackbnimb> daftykins - thanks
[17:09] <daftykins> juniour: what happens? does it error saying it's unclean?
[17:09] <patrick-> its same thing
[17:09] <patrick-> this issue is nothing to do with windows
[17:09] <juniour> yep its hiberfiel.sys making problem
[17:09] <patrick-> its the lapto;
[17:09] <patrick-> laptop
[17:09] <cfhowlett> jackbnimb sudo apt-get dist-upgrade        will do it
[17:09] <daftykins> patrick-: nor is it to do with ubuntu, go and join hardware.
[17:09] <juniour> i tried remove_hiberfiel
[17:09] <patrick-> ok
[17:09] <daftykins> juniour: just boot Windows then shut it down properly. is it windows 8? you need to use the shift key to shutdown if so
[17:10] <juniour> yep i can disable fast hybrid booth there
[17:10] <juniour> but i want to override here only
[17:10] <daftykins> juniour: so you're intentionally making it more difficult? i'm sorry but that's unacceptable, resolve it in Windows.
[17:10] <cfhowlett> juniour DO NOT over ride your windows settings from ubuntu.  this is a bad idea.  BAD.
[17:11] <juniour> cfhowlett y bad idea
[17:11] <juniour> ?
[17:11] <daftykins> juniour: because it can break Windows, so please, do as instructed
[17:11] <reisio> reversiblean: so did you try mplayer?
[17:12] <juniour> cfhowlett this will not break windows its just hiber file snapshot of ram.
[17:12] <juniour> to make win fastboot
[17:12] <daftykins> juniour: so do as instructed, resolve Windows' state, boot back into ubuntu and try the mount again - then if there are still issues, share an error with us
[17:13] <cfhowlett> juniour when you break your windows (because you refuse to follow good advice) go to ##windows to get it repaired - not this channel.  good luck
[17:13] <juniour> i am asking something, u giving else ans
[17:13] <eeee> juniour: if you don't want to turn it off, for some reason, you can restart instead of shutting down windows, before booting into ubuntu to mount
[17:13] <eeee> juniour: they are giving you reasonable answers
[17:14] <juniour> i am asking to mount in ubuntu only dont want to restart or reboot
[17:14] <daftykins> juniour: but that's ridiculous
[17:14] <eeee> juniour: the whole filesystem is unstable, you only booting into ubuntu is rather dangerous since the /boot partition could get corrupted
[17:15] <daftykins> what is with people today, even a reboot is too much to ask =|
[17:15] <reisio> rebooting is a waste of time
[17:15] <ChaseTrains> is there a script that I can run when the whole system starts? Not .bashrc. I'm going to put "hdparm -y /dev/.." and "hdparm -S /dev/.."  there
[17:15] <eeee> next thing you know you'll be asking here about corrupted efi's and running dosfsck .. just do as they are telling you
[17:15] <eeee> it's for the best..
[17:16] <juniour> eeee i dont care for that i wan to learn like that thats y. as i know all aboot winds fasthybrid and disable it . but i mostly use linux so i want oleant how to achive that
[17:16] <juniour> hi
[17:16] <reisio> hi juniour
[17:16] <juniour> can any one know waht i am asking
[17:16] <juniour> ?
[17:17] <daftykins> you have been told what to do, you're on your own if you refuse to follow the advice.
[17:17] <juniour> yes i dont care. ifany one know plz tell me
[17:18] <eeee> juniour: do you want to mount in read-only, or you also want write?
[17:18] <daftykins> eeee: rw
[17:18] <r00t_> hey, newbie here.
[17:18] <juniour> eee rw
[17:18] <juniour> eeee rw
[17:18] <daftykins> but we shouldn't enable laziness
[17:18] <daftykins> r00t_: do you have a question?
[17:19] <ChaseTrains> where are the options for harddisk spin down time in xubuntu?
[17:19] <r00t_> no, hehe. just say hi to you all..
[17:19] <juniour> eeee i can mount as ro , but i need write permision also.
[17:19] <daftykins> !offtopic | r00t_
[17:19] <juniour> soud mount -ro -o device_name folders
[17:19] <ChaseTrains> found it
[17:19] <Rohan_m> I 'm coding in C and when i use function popen() it skips many part of code and goes directally to popen() statement
[17:20] <cfhowlett> juniour ubuntu refuses to mount win as a well intentioned user protection.  what you're after is against every rule of running dual/multi OS systems.
[17:20] <juniour> ohhh ok
[17:20] <eeee> juniour: yes what you're asking is absurd
[17:21] <juniour> y its against its my systeam i can do anything i can want
[17:21] <cfhowlett> juniour yep.  doesn
[17:21] <cfhowlett> you're right.  but it doesn't mean we have to help you break things.  ask ##linux or somewhere else
[17:21] <Rohan_m> eeee: I 'm coding in C and when i use function popen() it skips many part of code and goes directally to popen() statement
[17:21] <juniour> i dont care for break.
[17:21] <eeee> when you run windows afterwards it will mess it up
[17:22] <juniour> eeee i dont care for break or unstable. if u know can guide me
[17:22] <cfhowlett> juniour understood.  But you ARE trying to override ubuntu's built in safety measures so - ask somewhere else
[17:22] <juniour> hummm
[17:22] <juniour> ok
[17:23] <akincer> Is this the best channel to make a strong suggestion of better handling of /boot with regards to upgrades on the desktop? Just spent some time fixing my wife's laptop because /boot ran out of space and a kernel image was corrupted. It was non-trivial to fix and especially so for non-techies. This really has to be fixed going forward IMO
[17:23] <reisio> akincer: launchpad.net
[17:23] <reisio> I forget if the installer defaults ot no separate /boot
[17:23] <reisio> I believe it does
[17:23] <reisio> which would circumvent that issue
[17:24] <daftykins> akincer: ubuntu installs as a single partition these days, so it's unlikely your scenario will affect others.
[17:24] <daftykins> reisio: yep
[17:24] <akincer> good point. It was a default 12.04 install originally that was upgraded to 14.04
[17:24] <reisio> 'cept for maybe UEFI nonsense
[17:24] <damearin> Hello
[17:24] <reisio> not that there is really any excuse for an upgrade to break a system :)
[17:24] <reisio> damearin: 'lo
[17:24] <akincer> I've  never had a default install manage /boot well
[17:24] <reisio> I've never had a separate /boot
[17:24] <daftykins> akincer: yeah something as old as 12.04 would have had tonnes of kernels, was the 'corruption' more just an inability of the system to finish a kernel install due to lack of space?
[17:24] <reisio> there's no point :)
[17:25] <reisio> y'know, unless there is, which is rare
[17:25]  * cfhowlett /filesystem + /home + /swap
[17:25] <daftykins> i'd always done a separate /boot of 250MB+, but that's because i thought that the kernel being at the start of a mechanical disk made boot faster, but i've been told i'm wrong on that
[17:25] <akincer> daftykins: I think so, but I wasn't there during the upgrade process (she DID listen to my instructions to update when asked to do so (: ) So I'm merely theorizing since there was less than 11 megs left on /boot
[17:25] <reisio> you don't need separate /home, either, if you can update your distro without it breaking :)
[17:26] <daftykins> akincer: ah, and more than likely that space counted toward root's reserved 5% too
[17:26] <reisio> well in the very old days, certain data had to be early on the disk
[17:26] <reisio> but those days are long gone
[17:26] <reisio> mostly :p
[17:26] <daftykins> i think a separate /home makes a lot of sense regardless
[17:26] <reisio> and I like swap partitions 'cause they're handy, but swap files work just as well (for swap)
[17:26] <daftykins> but anywho, that's more general chat
[17:26] <reisio> daftykins: why's that?
[17:27] <akincer> For me, it's not a problem to fix. I'm more concerned about this kind of issue proliferating as less savvy users come on board which seems to be happening these days
[17:27] <fishcooker>  i have 2 interface .. first interface on from modem(internet) and the other to the AP.. how to routing the packet so that the client of ap can access the internet?
[17:27] <daftykins> reisio: well lets say it's a mechanical system hypothetically, i'd see sense in keeping the OS data at the start of the drive where it's faster... and let user data remain toward the end. i don't believe in upgrades though, so that way it's easier to clean install too preserving /home :)
[17:28] <akincer> although I'm REALLY glad I was with her when it broke so I didn't have to walk her through it
[17:28] <daftykins> fishcooker: standard ubuntu? i believe you can go through the network-manager and share the connection
[17:29] <daftykins> fishcooker: try this - http://askubuntu.com/questions/60980/how-to-share-a-wired-internet-connection-via-wifi
[17:32] <ChaseTrains> I'm trying to figure out whether hard disk spin down when idle is bad for the hard disk. Is it?
[17:33] <daftykins> yes, it can induce extra wear over time
[17:33] <daftykins> depends on the system type and usage
[17:35] <Bisono> help
[17:35] <Bisono> clear
[17:35] <daftykins> you have to ask a question first, Bisono
[17:35] <cfhowlett> !details|Bisono
[17:36] <RainMan28> I'm on 12.04 LTS and keep getting a warning that my Hareware Enablement Stack (HWE) is going out of support next week. When I try to do sudo apt-get upgrade it tells me there's no packages to upgrade. Also sudo do-release-upgrade finds nothing. What do I do?
[17:36] <Bisono> sorry guys, using irssi for the first time.. my bad.
[17:36] <Guest11565> Hi, I'm trying to resize my partition but it's not letting me go more then 44MB
[17:36] <cfhowlett> RainMan28 sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:36] <RainMan28> cfhowlett: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[17:37] <daftykins> Guest11565: can you share via paste.ubuntu.com some disk info? or a picture if you're using a graphical partition utility?
[17:37] <daftykins> Guest11565: e.g. "sudo parted -l"
[17:37] <Guest11565> not sure how... it's an lvm2 pv partition
[17:37] <cfhowlett> RainMan28 I'm not familiar with the HWE but see no reason why it would go out of support.  However, 14.04 is available.
[17:38] <daftykins> oh, i have no idea of LVM then.
[17:38] <daftykins> someone else will have to chip in
[17:38] <RainMan28> cfhowlett: yeah, I'm looking at this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/1204_HWE_EOL
[17:38] <RainMan28> cfhowlett: maybe I should try "update-manager -p" ?
[17:39] <Flannel> daftykins, Guest11565: a PV is identical to a regular partition, so that command is still meaningful.
[17:39] <cfhowlett> RainMan28 can't hurt
[17:39] <afrokarlsson> hi guys, where can i find channel list, can you help me?
[17:39] <eeee> !alis | afrokarlsson
[17:39] <reisio> afrokarlsson: /msg alis list *term*s*
[17:39] <abailarri> Hello. After to update my ubuntu 14, the network icon of the top panel desapared. Anyone know how to put again?
[17:40] <Guest11565> Model: ATA WDC WD15EARS-60M (scsi)
[17:40] <Guest11565> Disk /dev/sda: 1500GB
[17:40] <Guest11565> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B
[17:40] <Guest11565> Partition Table: msdos
[17:40] <Guest11565> Number  Start   End     Size    Type      File system  Flags
[17:40] <Guest11565>  1      1049kB  256MB   255MB   primary   ext2         boot
[17:40] <unopaste> Guest11565 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[17:40] <RainMan28> cfhowlett: ah that gives an error about x11 initialization failed
[17:40] <guna> hi
[17:40] <RainMan28> I have a version of ubuntu desktop 12.04 LTS installed on the machine but I only have ssh access to it
[17:41] <Guest18210> helllo
[17:41] <daftykins> Guest11565: that was not paste.ubuntu.com
[17:41] <reisio> 'lo
[17:42] <sai> Hi, I am using https://github.com/ignited/laravel-pdf. However, I am getting error that says "Permission Denied"
[17:42] <Guest11565> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7867382/
[17:42] <Guest11565> Sorry!
[17:42] <sai> I am installing on the ubuntu server
[17:42] <cfhowlett> !server | sai
[17:42] <awesomess3> is there an easy way to see which packages have been recently updated in the packages that you're about to install with `apt-get`?
[17:42] <daftykins> Guest11565: so... i'm seeing a full disk, what exactly are you trying to achieve?
[17:43] <Guest11565> I want to resize it, it's not full though
[17:43] <Guest11565> trying to make room for a windows install to dual boot
[17:43] <daftykins> Guest11565: i mean full as in all the space is allocated, do you mean you want to shrink one?
[17:43] <daftykins> aaaaah
[17:43] <Guest11565> yea shring
[17:43] <daftykins> ok, now we're getting somewhere
[17:43] <Guest11565> shrink
[17:44] <Guest11565> I'm still new to linux
[17:44] <daftykins> you really should've installed Windows first, but oh well
[17:44] <daftykins> do you have much data/configuration on this ubuntu install?
[17:44] <Guest11565> only using I think less than 20 gb
[17:44] <sai_> thank you.
[17:45] <RainMan28> can anyone help me upgrade 12.04.4 LTS to 14.04 LTS via SSH? I keep getting an annoying message about no upgrade available and how my HWE is EOL on 8/7/14.
[17:45] <daftykins> RainMan28: did you run dist-upgrade yet as suggested?
[17:45] <RainMan28> yes
[17:45] <RainMan28> daftykins: says no upgrade available
[17:45] <daftykins> and no new kernel?
[17:45] <daftykins> hmm
[17:45] <awesomess3> If you have a host of .deb files to install, how could you know which order to install them in if you had to install each one one-by-one?
[17:45] <mkanyicy> !upgrade
[17:46] <mkanyicy> !upgrade | RainMan28
[17:46] <RainMan28> that upgrade link doesn't have instructions for going from 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS
[17:47] <daftykins> Guest11565: if you had an external disk to backup to, as a new user i think it'd be far less painful for you to backup and wipe the disk, then install Windows first and ubuntu after. but if you want to continue, you'll need to boot a live session ideally (of ubuntu) then resize from inside that
[17:48] <Guest11565> I don't have a spare drive, already on a live cd. Problem is it's not letting me resize more than 44mb
[17:48] <RainMan28> doing sudo do-release-upgrade returns "Checking for a new Ubuntu release. No new release found." I have confirmed I'm on 12.04 LTS...why does it not see the 14.04 LTS?
[17:48] <daftykins> Guest11565: as in it will only let you shrink down by 44MB? what are you using to try this?
[17:48] <cfhowlett> RainMan28 my 12.04 doesn't see 14.04 either - something I was assured would take place at the .1 release.
[17:49] <Guest11565> using gparted and yea, just stops at 44mb
[17:49] <Guest11565> freespace following mib
[17:49] <RainMan28> cfhowlett: yeah, and I keep getting the HWE EOL warning...any idea why we aren't able to see 14.04?
[17:49] <alex72gr> server irc.gimp.org
[17:49] <InspectorCluseau> I upgraded my kubuntu 12.04 to 14.04.1 with no issues
[17:49] <Flannel> Guest11565: Before resizing the LVM PV, you'll need to resize the LVM LV/VG inside of it.  Here's a reasonable tutorial on it: http://blog.shadypixel.com/how-to-shrink-an-lvm-volume-safely/
[17:50] <cfhowlett> RainMan28 no idea.
[17:50] <Flannel> (By resizing the LV, you'll automatically resize the VG that it is contained within)
[17:50] <RainMan28> cfhowlett: are you able to run "update-manager" from the CLI on your install?
[17:50] <Rohan_m> I need a help with C programming
[17:50] <daftykins> Rohan_m: that's not appropriate here, find a channel for C
[17:50] <cfhowlett> rohan wrong channel
[17:51] <rww> Rohan_m: identify to NickServ and /join ##c
[17:51] <rww> !register
[17:52] <Flannel> RainMan28: Just for the record (despite what the message says), your 12.04 is still supported, and you'll still get updates after that date, you'll just transition (and it'll be *quite* the transition) onto 14.04 kernels/etc
[17:53] <Guest11565> I don't understand this command e2fsck -f /dev/polar/root how do I find the volume group and logical volume names to put in?
[17:53] <RainMan28> Flannel: thanks, but is it true that I will stop receiving updates for the kernel and graphics stack from August 7th?
[17:53] <RainMan28> Flannel: the wiki seems to say that kernel and graphics stack won't update anymore
[17:54] <Guest11565> ok I know the vg name, do I keep root in the command?
[17:54] <Flannel> RainMan28: the 12.04 kernel/graphics won't be updated, and you'll be transitioned into newer kernel/graphics *within* 12.04 (this is that whole 12.04.5 HWE thing)
[17:54] <RainMan28> ok
[17:54] <daftykins> Guest11565: hit the first character of paths then hit tab to auto complete, to check they're there
[17:55] <RainMan28> Flannel: so I can just ignore the warning message on login for now and just stick to the normal apt-get update and apt-get upgrade commands?
[17:55] <Flannel> RainMan28: "root" in that is the LV's name (read the following paragraph, where he talks about /dev/<volume group>/<logical volume>)
[17:56] <RainMan28> Guest11565, that was intended for you ^
[17:56] <Flannel> Sorry.
[17:56] <Flannel> Guest11565: That's how it was explained to me, but that was a while ago and the actual implementation I'm unsure about.  That wiki page is the entirety of the official documentation.
[17:56] <RainMan28> haha
[17:56] <RainMan28> was that meant for me?
[17:57] <Flannel> RainMan28: That's how it was explained to me, but that was a while ago and the actual implementation I'm unsure about.  That wiki page is the entirety of the official documentation that I've seen (and all it says is "ask this tool!", which obviously isn't conveying information the best right now)
[17:58] <Flannel> RainMan28: However, if you're still interesting in upgrading your install to 14.04, we can sort that out too.  It's possible your mirror isn't entirely up to date with 14.04.1, in which case you can force it along with some flags.
[17:59] <RainMan28> sure, lets try it. This install was mainly to learn about Ubuntu and this is learning
[18:00] <ChaseTrains> do you set the audio to 50% (default) or should it be 100% if you have external speakers?
[18:01] <Flannel> RainMan28: So, by default, LTS won't upgrade to the next LTS until the first point release (14.04.1, which is "about now" instead of back in April).
[18:01] <RainMan28> yeah
[18:02] <RainMan28> i thought the 14.04.1 was released on July 24th
[18:02] <RainMan28> or at least was scheduled to
[18:02] <Guest11565> when using resize2fs /dev/polar/root 180G, is this resizing the current partition or is this the size of the new one?
[18:02] <Footy> Id consider that "about now"
[18:02] <Flannel> RainMan28: In the past, we've always done this pre-point release upgrades with do-release-upgrade -d, but apparently there's a -p flag as well.  So lets go ahead and try the -p flag, see what it says.
[18:03] <RainMan28> ok
[18:03] <daftykins> did that not give the X11 error mentioned before?
[18:03] <WACOMalt> Hey folks. I'm running Ubuntu in a VM, and I have a virtual disk. I just booted to the live CD so that I could resize partitions in the vdi file, but I am unable to extend the main partition because the swap partition is in the middle, and unmovable
[18:03] <WACOMalt> any ideas?
[18:03] <Flannel> Guest11565: Read the next paragraph.  In fact, read the WHOLE tutorial thing before doing any commands.
[18:03] <daftykins> WACOMalt: delete it, recreate... set as you want it, then update the /etc/fstab entries to reflect the changes
[18:04] <RainMan28> daftykins: nah, doing upgrade-manager -p gave the x11 error
[18:04] <daftykins> RainMan28: ah ok, sorry
[18:04] <Guest11565> I have, twice now... I'm new to linux so I don't understand what it's trying to do exactly
[18:04] <WACOMalt> I have no idea how to do that last bit :/
[18:05] <RainMan28> Flannel: ok, that seems to be working (the -p flag)...its recommending not upgrading via SSH though, but its a digital ocean droplet so I don't know how else I would be able to do an upgrade
[18:05] <daftykins> WACOMalt: ok well do the other steps, then run "sudo blkid" to get the new UUID's, then update /etc/fstab with them
[18:05] <WACOMalt> http://i.imgur.com/PEn5YFk.png
[18:05] <WACOMalt> so this cant be done via only gparted?
[18:05] <Guest11565> I decided to just split the space in half
[18:06] <Flannel> RainMan28:  I wouldn't worry about it.  It's basicalyl saying "You're upgrading, ssh is upgrading too! You might not have ssh come back afterwards if things go south".  Which, assuming digital ocean is some remotely hosted thing, you don't have a choice on.
[18:06] <RainMan28> ok cool
[18:06] <Guest11565> if I screw it up then whatever, don't have anything really important to lose. Important things get uploaded to drop box
[18:07] <Flannel> Guest11565: The resizefs command is resizing the filesystem on the partition, it needs to be SMALLER (for safety) than what you're ultimately going to resize the actual partition/LV to.  (Then you resize it back up to fill it completely)
[18:07] <Guest11565> yea, doing the first resize at 480 then the lvreduce one at 500
[18:08] <daftykins> WACOMalt: so right click -> swapoff, delete the swap partition and the extended partition, then resize sda1
[18:08] <aguitel_> is anyone triyng to install 14.04 in acer-aspireone 725   ?
[18:08] <Flannel> Think of it as you're shrinking the bag of stuff inside the box (1), then you shrink the box, then you shrink box2, which had the box(1) in it.
[18:08] <Guest11565> just hope I don't screw something up, would hate to have to reinstall everything and reset it up
[18:08] <RainMan28> Flannel: ah ok, now its saying "no valid mirror found" and is asking if I want to rewrite the sources.list file anyways? If I choose 'Yes' it will update all the 'precise' to 'trusty' entries.
[18:08] <daftykins> WACOMalt: and no, you need to update things about your install afterward, but don't worry it's trivial to do.
[18:08] <WACOMalt> daftykins, done. Do I need to worry about recreating swap?
[18:08] <Flannel> RainMan28: It will.  I'm not sure what that error is about, but yes, it will.
[18:09] <RainMan28> Flannel: ok so I'll go ahead with no then, since it didn't update
[18:09] <daftykins> WACOMalt: how much RAM does the VM have?
[18:09] <WACOMalt> 8GB
[18:09] <WACOMalt> I can bump that up to 16 if need be
[18:09] <daftykins> WACOMalt: crikey, depends what it runs then.
[18:09] <WACOMalt> I'm only using this once for one thing
[18:09] <WACOMalt> to merge some clonezilla images
[18:09] <daftykins> WACOMalt: don't worry then, but you'll need to edit /etc/fstab anyway and comment out the mount line for the swap partition anyway
[18:09] <Flannel> RainMan28: Maybe your lack of repositories is why it wasn't upgrading already ;)
[18:10] <WACOMalt> ok. do I do that after I try to boot?
[18:10] <RainMan28> Flannel: could be...its using the digitalocean mirrors
[18:10] <daftykins> WACOMalt: no because you'll get errors on boot, you do it now :) would you like command assistance?
[18:10] <WACOMalt> yes please :) and if you can PM that'd be great
[18:10] <daftykins> sure
[18:11] <Flannel> RainMan28: yeah, VPS installs are always a little bit off kilter.
[18:11] <RainMan28> Flannel: trying it on my local ubuntu box, and it seems to be working fine and downloading updates
[18:15] <xtriz> i need to add the path $HOME/bin to my path variable where can i add it ?
[18:16] <valindo> hi
[18:16] <valindo> hi
[18:16] <xtriz> it's already there by default in .profile
[18:16] <cfhowlett> valindo ask your ubuntu question
[18:17] <valindo> how do i disable my keyboard?
[18:17] <xtriz> valindo, disable keyboard ?
[18:17] <xtriz> just remove it
[18:18] <valindo> yeah , My laptop keyboard
[18:18] <WACOMalt> (maybe a laptop?)
[18:18] <WACOMalt> yup :P
[18:18] <valindo> I doubt removing it will be an option :'D
[18:18] <Footy> i found coke cola quite effective
[18:18] <xtriz> hehe :P
[18:18] <WACOMalt> look up xtrlock
[18:18] <valindo> Coca Cola is the reason I am here
[18:18] <WACOMalt> lets you lock mouse/keyboard but not screen
[18:18] <valindo> ._.
[18:18] <Footy> hahahaha
[18:19] <cfhowlett> Jolt Cola: all the sugar and twice the caffiene
[18:19] <WACOMalt> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=993800
[18:20] <xtriz> in .bashrc, what does HISTCONTROL=ignoreboth means ?
[18:21] <Flannel> xtriz: HISTCONTROL has two options: ignorespace (ignore commands that start with a space) and ignoredups (ignore duplicate commands).  ignoreboth is just one way of specifying to do both of those things.
[18:21] <valindo> See I wanna connect an external Keyboard and use my laptop because few keys aren't  working...any solutions>
[18:21] <xtriz> Flannel, cool :)
[18:22] <cfhowlett> valindo plug in - the new KB should be detected
[18:22] <xtriz> Flannel, man bash to learn about the various possible options for config ?
[18:22] <valindo> also the reason I wanna do this is because the keys on the laptop tend to malfunction and randomly move up, down or copy paste random shi
[18:23] <Flannel> xtriz: it's in there, yes.
[18:23] <pdo_fn14> I can't upgrade to 14.04.1 anymore, just going with do-release-upgrade --mode=desktop with no new version.
[18:24] <valindo> @cfhowlett - The main issue is the laptop keyboard malfunction
[18:24] <xtriz> Flannel, ok
[18:25] <valindo> pdo_fn14 have u tried $ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:27] <pdo_fn14> valindo: I think with update-manager will be calling to refresh apt, cmiiw.
[18:29] <pdo_fn14_> Sorry just brb because my data cellular is killed. Can you repeat your answer?.
[18:30] <xtriz> Flannel, man bash has really tons of info :) most of them up over my head :D
[18:30] <Flannel> xtriz: yeah, there's almost certainly better (more digestible) resources out there.
[18:31] <xtriz> Flannel, like ? do you know any ?
[18:32] <Urchin[emacs]> there's a bunch of bash scripting books
[18:32] <Urchin[emacs]> and tutorial websites
[18:32] <cfhowlett> http://www.linuxine.com/linuxbooks
[18:32] <xtriz> Urchin[emacs], books ? can you name some ?
[18:32] <cfhowlett> xtriz see above
[18:33] <xtriz> cfhowlett, chk those books rightaway :)
[18:34] <xtriz> cfhowlett, the linux cli that is the book which might be prove useful for me :D
[18:34] <cfhowlett> xtriz happy2help
[18:34] <Urchin[emacs]> xtriz: look for titles containing shell scripting or bash scripting in them
[18:35] <xtriz> ok :) happy to be part of ubuntu community :)
[18:37] <mario_> alguien de peru ?
[18:37] <cfhowlett> !peruvian
[18:37] <cfhowlett> !peru
[18:37] <Jeffrey_f> anyone know rsyslog? PM me as it will be off-topic
[18:37] <cfhowlett> !es
[18:42] <klixa> hey everyone
[18:46] <daftykins> klixa: hello. do you have a question?
[18:47] <Aaruni|webwalach> I really need a way to install grub 2.02 onto Ubuntu precise. Help ?
[18:47] <cfhowlett> !precise
[18:47] <Aaruni|webwalach> cfhowlett: ?
[18:48] <cfhowlett> !grub2 | Aaruni|webwalach short answer: make a boot USB, install
[18:48] <Aaruni|webwalach> cfhowlett: precise only installs grub 1.99, not grub 2.02
[18:48] <Guest11565> How long should it take to resize a partition?
[18:49] <cfhowlett> Guest11565 depends on factors - size, ram, what else you're doing ...
[18:49] <Guest11565> ok, just feels like its been forever now, probably really 30 minutes though
[18:50] <cfhowlett> Guest11565 patience
[18:50] <Pinkamena_D> Hey guys, having quite the issue today. I did a do-release-upgrade from 11 to 12.04 and now my server cant boot  with the 'gave up waiting for root device' error
[18:50] <Aaruni|webwalach> so, cfhowlett ?
[18:50] <WACOMalt> So, if I have a server on 10.04....
[18:50] <cfhowlett> Aaruni|webwalach so ... I sent you a link.  READ
[18:51] <ChaseTrains> I'm used to mounting stuff to /mnt/. Why should I mount to /media/? It's a secondary hd
[18:51] <WACOMalt> is there a clean path to updating it to current?
[18:51] <Pinkamena_D> I booted to an ubuntu-server install disk and sa2 /dev/sda1,2,5 and other drives lister there. I tried putting the GRUB config to those SDA ones which I am 99% sure is where the OS is
[18:51] <Aaruni|webwalach> cfhowlett: it talks about if I loose my GRUB after installing windows or something. but I have a fully functional grub. only, that its 1.99, and not 2.* . I know its possible, because I did it once, I just can not recall how.
[18:51] <cfhowlett> WACOMalt you can upgrade LTS to LTS - I THINK you can upgrade 10.04 > 12.04 > 14.04
[18:51] <Pinkamena_D> but it still fails for all of them
[18:52] <cfhowlett> Aaruni|webwalach 1.99 = 2
[18:52] <Pinkamena_D> also initramfs shows no SDA devices at all in /dev. not sure if this is normal
[18:52] <WACOMalt> cfhowlett, in your oppinion, how much stuff would break?
[18:52] <Aaruni|webwalach> cfhowlett: 1.99 != 2.02
[18:52] <abaday> hi, how do I choose boot-options when installing ubuntu 14.04 with a usb-stick?
[18:52] <ph88> hey guys, i tried to follow this instruction to add an icon for a file type, but it's not showing up. What to do??  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingMimeTypes
[18:52] <cfhowlett> WACOMalt better you ask in #ubuntu-server
[18:53] <WACOMalt> kk
[18:55] <Aaruni|webwalach> cfhowlett: I'll try to explain my situation better. I have trusty and precise in dual boot. the grub 1.99 breaks all the submenus for trusty, and the grub 2.02 from trusty makes trusty the default boot. I want to boot into precise by default, while not breaking the submenus in GRUB. hence, I want to install Grub 2.02 in Ubuntu Precise. Now, can you help me ?
[18:56] <eeee> Aaruni|webwalach: you should get grub 2.02 in trusty to find the Precise installation
[18:56] <Aaruni|webwalach> eeee: but I can't get grub 2.02 from trusty to boot into precise by default.
[18:57] <cfhowlett> Aaruni|webwalach I'm still on 12.04 and my grub is 1.99 - not sure I'm the one ...
[18:57] <eeee> you can change the default OS selection, not to mention the timeout
[18:57] <Aaruni|webwalach> cfhowlett: ok, thanks anyway
[18:57] <Aaruni|webwalach> eeee: can you tell me how ?
[18:57] <eeee> gksu gedit /etc/default/grub
[18:58] <mint_> hello
[18:58] <syntroPi_> when i provide GRUB_BADRAM parameter in /etc/default/grub and update-grub then reboot, how would i confirm that the kernel got those memory maps?
[18:58] <Aaruni|webwalach> eeee: thanks!
[18:59] <eeee> np :)
[18:59] <daftykins> syntroPi_: check the boot logs, like dmesg and /var/log/syslog / /var/log/messages
[19:00] <syntroPi_> daftykins, yes but those are very verbose, hence my question what to look for: do you know any keywords to find in those files?
[19:00] <daftykins> your question didn't quite specify that :) no ideas i'm afraid
[19:00] <daftykins> just play with grep \o/
[19:03] <Rohan_m> Wtf i'm coding in C and trying to use delay(); and it says "undefined reference to delay" even though stdio.h and stdlib.h are there
[19:03] <ikonia> Rohan_m: tone down your language
[19:03] <ikonia> Rohan_m: use ##c or ##c-beginners
[19:03] <Rohan_m> ikonia: sry
[19:03] <ikonia> Rohan_m: learning C is not an ubuntu problem
[19:03] <ikonia> Rohan_m: this channel is for the OS / application support
[19:03] <daftykins> this is also not the first time you've been told as much
[19:03] <syntroPi_> daftykins, hmm a quick search for that address didnt show up anything find /var -type f -exec grep -n -H 38c14aeac {} \;
[19:22] <plinio> server irc.chlame.net
[19:22] <c|oneman> how can I tell if/when a linux server was upgraded (via dist-upgrade for example)
[19:22] <jeffreylevesque_> Trying to install ubuntu server 14.04 do i select "Install", or "Install Ubuntu Server".  Which do i select?
[19:23] <daftykins> i wouldn't expect to see a repeat of the same message
[19:24] <daftykins> jeffreylevesque_: there's only one for me - https://www.dropbox.com/s/g9nsylpgoppp6lx/serverinstall.JPG
[19:26] <delinquentme> I know that its sub-ideal to be mining bitcoins on non dedicated mining hardware ... BUT  In the case that I want to do this anyways ... what package should I be using ??
[19:26] <jeffreylevesque_> http://tinypic.com/r/160bzg8/8
[19:26] <delinquentme> bitcoin-stable?
[19:27] <cre8torx> anyone try kylin
[19:27] <daftykins> delinquentme: that's beyond the scope of this channel.
[19:27] <bazhang> delinquentme, try #eligius
[19:28] <daftykins> jeffreylevesque_: ah unetbootin, either should work.
[19:29] <dr0p> hello, does anyone faced problems when using tmux + vim? I cannot use any colorscheme properly. Got grey background instead of black.
[19:35] <c0ffee_> dr0p,  I could somehow fix it when was tweaking powerline plugin and gruvbox colorscheme their wikis, probably have answer. https://github.com/morhetz/gruvbox/wiki
[19:35] <rawrmonster> I am trying to connect to a windows machine from "Browse Network". I had just connected fine and got all the way to the folder I needed but decided to connect to ethernet to transfer the file because it was really big. Not it just keeps asking for the password over and over. I know the password is right because i can log in to the machine. I have tried restarting the machine. I have also tried disabling ethernet and going back to wifi but that no longe
[19:36] <Bashing-om> clopez: For the release/verion you have -> lsb_release-a <- for the kernel (version) -> unname -a <- , for what dpkg had done; inspect -> /var/log/dpkg.log <- .
[19:59] <Fabiano> Guys, does anyone have any idea how to connect a HP 50g ubuntu?
[20:01] <cyb3rty> hi. i get the '[XORG] (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)' error when i try to use bumblebee. can you help me with it?
[20:04] <daftykins> Fabiano: what even is that?
[20:05] <Guido1> I have an external drive which makes some sound, but except for that it works just fine. How can I find out if I should replace the drive anyway? Right now I'm running GSmartControl
[20:05] <daftykins> cyb3rty: did you follow a guide to setup bumblebee? was it working a moment ago, but not now?
[20:05] <Footy> Guido1 are you running hdd or ssd?
[20:06] <Fabiano> a calculator daftykins
[20:06] <daftykins> Guido1: install 'smartmontools' and check the SMART info by running 'sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX' - pastebin it for us at paste.ubuntu.com if you'd like a second opinion
[20:06] <Footy> if your ssd is making noise you should replace immeidately :D
[20:07] <cyb3rty> daftykins: yes, i've installed it properly. no, it never worked, but i had '[XORG] (EE) intel(0): [drm] failed to set drm interface version: Permission denied [13]' error before
[20:07] <Guido1> daftykins: what is the pakage name?
[20:07] <daftykins> Guido1: that's the very first part of my message.
[20:08] <cyb3rty> daftykins: i've been trying to make it work for a damn week already. nothing helpes
[20:08] <cyb3rty> helps*
[20:08] <daftykins> cyb3rty: i would submit to you that you have not installed correctly :)
[20:08] <Guido1> daftykins: i tryed that, but i get an error if i want to use the name
[20:09] <daftykins> Guido1: until you share what you're running and the error i can't tell what's up
[20:09] <daftykins> "sudo apt-get install smartmontools" should be fine if this is ubuntu
[20:09] <Guido1> daftykins: forgot the ¨ install" ...
[20:10] <daftykins> ;)
[20:10] <Guido1> already instaled
[20:11] <Guido1> daftykins: just running the long scan via the GUI
[20:11] <RainMan28> guys I was doing an upgrade and it asked me whether to overwrite a file or not and I hit 'D' to see the differences, and after that I accidentally did CTRL-C and it quit out of the upgrade process
[20:11] <RainMan28> how do I go back to it? now if I do sudo do-release-upgrade -p it says no upgrade available
[20:12] <daftykins> Guido1: GUI? but this one's a command line tool :D
[20:12] <daftykins> RainMan28: try sudo apt-get -f install
[20:12] <RainMan28> nothing
[20:12] <MrQuist> Hiya guys
[20:12] <RainMan28> daftykins: says 0 upgrade, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded
[20:13] <daftykins> RainMan28: yeah, no ideas then sorry
[20:13] <MrQuist> Quick question - my retarded ISP thinks its a good idea to block port 25 for their users. Can't send mails anymore.
[20:13] <RainMan28> ubuntu is a lot harder than I thought :/
[20:13] <MrQuist> Now, im looking for a way to forward a port - my mailserver listens to port 25. Can i just redirect incoming port "225" or something to "25" ?
[20:14] <cyb3rty> RainMan28: people who call linux user-friendly are damned liars
[20:14] <daftykins> RainMan28: i think there's something quirky about your setup that makes it a lot more awkward than usual
[20:14] <MrQuist> I've searched for portforwarding, port mapping, port aliasing, but i can't find anything, maybe im looking at the wrong place, but i actually want 2 entrances to the SMTP service. Both on port 25 and 225. Anybody here knows how to do that?
[20:14] <RainMan28> daftykins: yea, not sure what, never done anything strange to it, just installed
[20:14] <MrQuist> IPTables is ... gibberish to me
[20:14] <daftykins> cyb3rty: i don't know anyone that claims that, but know that your issue comes from nvidia' lack of willingness to offer official support in Linux for their optimus tech, so Linux is not to blame.
[20:15] <ChaseTrains> hi. How do I get hard disks to spin down in ubuntu? I can't even spin it down with hdparm -Y since I added it to fstab
[20:16] <daftykins> MrQuist: no, because how would any other mail server know that you weren't running on a standard port? :)
[20:16] <daftykins> MrQuist: in fairness i'm no mail guy, you could ask again in #ubuntu-server
[20:16] <MrQuist> daftykins, thats why im looking on forwarding a port.
[20:16] <Guest8170> I open a file manager like Thunar or Nautilus, but the contents of my home directory are never displayed.  In sub directories, I get the contents in maybe 5 or 10 seconds.
[20:16] <MrQuist> if i wanted to change it, i would have changed it.
[20:17] <MrQuist> I need an extra tunnel, from port 225, to port 25
[20:17] <MrQuist> or map port 225 to 25
[20:17] <MrQuist> or alias port 225 to 25
[20:17] <MrQuist> not change it
[20:17] <daftykins> MrQuist: i dn't think you understand my point
[20:17] <MrQuist> I don't think you understand mine.
[20:18] <daftykins> MrQuist: anyway, try the channel as mentioned - this is beyond the scope of this channel
[20:18] <MrQuist> My PC uses port 25 for SMTP, right? I send an email to my mailserver (in a datacenter) using SMTP over port 25. My ISP blocks port 25. So i want to change it locally to port 225
[20:18] <MrQuist> or use port 225 to get to port 25 in reality
[20:18] <Guido1> daftykins: seams that iit has both - GUI and command line
[20:19] <daftykins> MrQuist: ISPs have never blocked outgoing ports in my experience, but as i say this is off topic for here - #ubuntu-server and #networking
[20:19] <MrQuist> ....
[20:19] <MrQuist> dude
[20:19] <daftykins> Guido1: yep as i mentioned run "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX"
[20:19] <MrQuist> https://static.ziggo.nl/images/OverigeBepalingenInternet_tcm14-28045.pdf
[20:20] <daftykins> unless that's in english it's of no use to me
[20:20] <MrQuist> They block port 25, ADP/TCP 135 to 139 and TCP 445.
[20:20] <MrQuist> I am sure they do.
[20:20] <MrQuist> I just dont want to use "smtp.ziggo.nl", i want my own smtp server.
[20:20] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: " and 2 not upgraded " what does 'apt-get upgrade' say is being held ?
[20:20] <daftykins> MrQuist: please ask in the relevant channels. i will not say this again
[20:21] <RainMan28> Bashing-om:
[20:21] <RainMan28> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[20:21] <RainMan28> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[20:21] <ChaseTrains> I want to spin down a secondary disk. Settings->disks->standby timeout setting-> 5 seconds .. I've hdparm -S1 /dev/.. as well. Doesn't matter if it's mounted or not, disk does not spin down. The only thing that works is to unmount it and run hdparm -Y (or -y) /dev/..   How doyou do this in ubuntu in a sensible fashion?
[20:21] <RainMan28> sorry, should have pasted that.
[20:21] <MrQuist> i did. Then also stop making remarks that make me reply
[20:21] <daftykins> oh my, how dare i assist
[20:21] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: That last is due to more than one instance of the package manager in action .. close all out and try the terminal again.
[20:21] <MrQuist> indeed
[20:22] <daftykins> MrQuist: feel free to request a refund
[20:22] <MrQuist> how dare you
[20:22] <MrQuist> puny human
[20:22] <MrQuist> pethatic mortal
[20:22] <Guest8170> I want to look at the contents of my home directory.  How?  Nautilus doesn't see its contents
[20:22] <MrQuist> i shall destroy earth
[20:23] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: I'm only doing this through terminal...everything via ssh access. Was upgrading via SSH, it asked me to compare two files before overwriting them and while I was doing that I accidentally terminated the upgrade session and it took me back to the cli before I did 'sudo do-release-upgrade -p'
[20:23] <trism> Guest8170: you mean the hidden files? ctrl+h
[20:23] <mr-tech-guy_> hello room
[20:24] <Bashing-om> Guest8170: Not any of the contents of home, or just some ? .. as in hideen '.' (dot) files ? -> ctl+h to see the hidden files .
[20:24] <Guest8170> trism: No, I start Nautilus and I get a spinning thing, but NONE of the contents of the /home/usr/ directoy
[20:24] <Guest8170> Bashing-om: Nothing
[20:24] <Guest8170> Bashing-om: Spinning circle
[20:24] <ChaseTrains> something is repeatedly activating my secondary harddisk.. not letting it sleep (spin down). How do I figure out what that is? It's an empty secondary disk.
[20:25] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: There are means to overcome a interrupted upgrade, if it failed to complete .. each case is individual // there are some 'general' thing to be done.
[20:25] <Guest8170> trism: Bashing-om: I can look into sub directories to the base directory with a little delay, but I get to see their contents
[20:25] <MrQuist> thank you daftykins :)
[20:26] <MrQuist> "iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 225 -j REDIRECT --to-port 25" was the answer
[20:27] <daftykins> MrQuist: i apologise that we got our wires crossed there, i'm glad you found a solution :)
[20:27] <Guido1> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7868509/ en http://paste.ubuntu.com/7868543/
[20:28] <MrQuist> yeah sorry i know you get a lot of noobs here but its kinda annoying that someone tells you "no its not" while you're sure it is
[20:28] <MrQuist> kinda like the whole god/allah thing
[20:28] <MrQuist> i get mad about that
[20:28] <MrQuist> sorry for that witty remark
[20:28] <MrQuist> im just pissed off at my ISp
[20:28] <Guido1> daftykins: ( my conection to the chat just brok after sending the first link)
[20:28] <Guest8170> MrQuist: We could talk about god/allah, but not here, I think
[20:28] <Bashing-om> Guest8170: Don't know but we can poke at it .. what results from terminal command -> ls -la /home/<username> where 'username' is your login identification.
[20:28] <MrQuist> no, that #fiction
[20:28] <daftykins> Guido1: yes that disks controller has failed
[20:29] <mr-tech-guy_> I have a >>>/etc /sudoers: syntax error near line 24  sudo: parse error in  /etc/sudoers , near line 24
[20:29] <Guido1> daftykins: by the second test i had to reboot
[20:29] <mr-tech-guy_> any one seen this
[20:29] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: any idea what the first step is?
[20:29] <Guido1> daftykins: because the latop was not realy responding any more
[20:29] <MrQuist> mr-tech-guy_, check out line 24 or 23 in /etc/sudoers
[20:29] <MrQuist> AH you can't edit that one because you can't become root anymore
[20:30] <MrQuist> thats crappy
[20:30] <daftykins> MrQuist: no worries :) i know the frustration of problems
[20:30] <Guest8170> Bashing-om: So far, nothingh
[20:30] <daftykins> mr-tech-guy_: you'll probably need to boot into recovery mode to do something about that, or boot a live session (DVD/USB) and chroot.
[20:30] <Guido1> daftykins: so you suggest buying a new disk or can i fix it?
[20:30] <daftykins> Guido1: it's dead, backup the data from it and replace ASAP :)
[20:31] <daftykins> !recovery | mr-tech-guy_
[20:31] <Guido1> daftykins: thanks, i will do that. strange that the gui version says that everything is fine ...
[20:31] <Nessie75> k
[20:32] <mr-tech-guy_> I can get in to my system ok. I get this error any time i have to sudo for admin right
[20:32] <daftykins> Guido1: indeed, i've had this just recently with a friends girlfriends computer, i ended up helping with an SSD upgrade and switched to using the affected drive as a storage-only disk. running the OS from it was incredibly painful
[20:32] <Guido1> daftykins: on which part do you see that it is broken?
[20:32] <daftykins> mr-tech-guy_: so you can actually run things with sudo still?
[20:32] <mr-tech-guy_> no
[20:33] <mr-tech-guy_> i get this error time i use sudo
[20:33] <MrQuist> yeah someone dun goofed
[20:33] <daftykins> Guido1: ID's #1, #7, #195
[20:33] <MrQuist> you'll have to become root anyway
[20:33] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: -> sudo apt-get autoclean , sudo apt-get autoremove , sudo apt-get clean , sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade , sudo apt-get dist-upgrade , sudo apt-get -f install , sudo dpkg --configure -a . Then we deal with the left overs ( grub ??).
[20:33] <Guest8170> Bashing-om: It hangs there.  Would it be more effective with sudo ... ?
[20:33] <daftykins> mr-tech-guy_: then you must boot recovery to fix
[20:33] <rawrmonster> I have a question. I have a laptop and a projector. When i open a video it opens in my main window and I drag it to my projector display. When i try to full screen the video I see the application make the projector screen go black like the video is about to play but the video appears full screen on the laptop screen. The projector is still on because if i unfull screen it, it goes right back to playing on the projector. Any idea how to fix this?
[20:34] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: the first command (sudo apt-get autoclean) gives the same command about the unable to get a lock. Should I reboot the machine first?
[20:34] <mr-tech-guy_> with the live CD I used to install it
[20:34] <ejcweb> I've had some filesystem problems with my server, and have been through a few recovery steps. Things seem better, but now when I run a sudo command I get "-bash: /usr/bin/sudo: cannot execute binary file". What does this mean?
[20:34] <daftykins> mr-tech-guy_: yes as per the linked guide above
[20:35] <daftykins> Guido1: did you say this was an external USB attached disk, or?
[20:35] <ejcweb> Also, when I run the command 'file' on sudo, I see "/usr/bin/sudo: setuid data". I was expecting some useful info instead of that.
[20:35] <Bashing-om> Guest8170: You mean there is no return from -> ls -la /home/yourname_here .. !! Wow, now we have a problem indeed.
[20:35] <mr-tech-guy_> cool let me give it a go
[20:35] <mr-tech-guy_> Thanks
[20:35] <Guido1> daftykins: yes, it's an external drive
[20:35] <rawrmonster> RainMan28: if there is not another program running for apt you can delete the lock file and it will allow it to run.
[20:36] <daftykins> Guido1: ah ok, in my friends case it was an internal drive so i tried a different SATA cable to start with... but i don't think that's too useful for your situation.
[20:36] <daftykins> (it didn't work anyway, it was definitely the drive)
[20:36] <Guest8170> Bashing-om: What I mean is that all that happens is that the cursor moves to the next line ... period.
[20:36] <Guido1> daftykins: used for films, fotos and music
[20:36] <RainMan28> rawrmonster: it was a failed upgrade in the sense that it asked me if I wanted to overwrite a file and when I hit 'D' to compare differences I accidentally CTRL-C'd out of the upgrade process (was doing it via SSH)
[20:36] <RainMan28> rawrmonster: so not sure if its still running or not, or if I should delete the lock file
[20:37] <maddawg2> hey all... i have an interesting thing... i have two physical 1.5TB drives that I want to extend across one another
[20:37] <Guido1> daftykins: right now the drive works just fine. only the sound was confusing me and that was not the normal tiking by failing
[20:37] <maddawg2> how can I combine two physical drives to show as one?
[20:37] <Guest8170> Bashing-om: But... if I type /home/username/Documents/ for example, I see the contents of that sub-directory
[20:37] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: Back out of everything.. and yeah reboot to clear .. if still a problem will have to find out what is locking dpkg.
[20:37] <maddawg2> kinda like how in windows you can span two volumes
[20:37] <maddawg2> i was reading about LVM but i have no clue how to use it lol
[20:37] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: thank you sir
[20:38] <daftykins> Guido1: yeah it'll act normal, but basically every single read/write is causing the controller to work especially hard doing 'ECC', error checking and correction. so it's kind of making it scream to operate :) it'll be worked too hard and die properly eventually, so what i would do is copy all data off, then abandon it
[20:38] <rawrmonster> RainMan28: do something like ps aux | grep apt to see if apt is still running
[20:38] <maddawg2> wait a minute... wtf...
[20:38] <maddawg2> hmmm it's not even listing my drives anywhere wtf
[20:39] <Guest8170> Bashing-om: I do the same command ... /home/username/Documents/, It gives the contents immediately
[20:39] <Guido1> daftykins: okee, that sounds like my disk  ... I will do that. i thought about buying the seagate expention desktop
[20:40] <Guido1> daftykins: can I put externnal drives abov each other or should there some air in between?
[20:40] <delinquentme> is there  a way to disable the desktop as an option in the alt-tab swapper ?
[20:40] <daftykins> maddawg2: that would be a pretty messy idea, in some scenarios one disk failing would make you lose everything. instead, you could just mount the second as a folder inside the first to make data 'appear' to be all together
[20:40] <Bashing-om> Guest8170: pastenin the output of terminal command -> ls -la ~/ <-. Gives an idea of what is .
[20:40] <maddawg2> ok.. def need help now... i just added two hard disks using vmware (virtual hard disks) but i cant even see them on the machine
[20:40] <maddawg2> fdisk -l only shows my primary
[20:41] <maddawg2> daftykins i dont need stability
[20:41] <Jeffrey_f> can anyone answer an rsyslog question (yep, slightly off-topic  :P)
[20:41] <xangua> delinquentme: install unity tweak tool and disable it there
[20:41] <daftykins> Guido1: as it was your temperature of 47 is a bit higher than i'd like, i'd definitely give them as much space as possible :)
[20:41] <maddawg2> i cant do it that way due to the program i am using
[20:41] <daftykins> Jeffrey_f: have you tried #ubuntu-server yet? it may be more relevant
[20:41] <Guido1> daftykins: and how can i analyse it myself. iis there somwhere a guide?
[20:42] <maddawg2> daftykins, have you ever used vmware esxi?  i'm having an issue getting ubuntu to see the new drives i just added
[20:42] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: I rebooted the machine and can no longer access it via SSH
[20:42] <Jeffrey_f> daftykins: Thanks
[20:42] <daftykins> maddawg2: that is beyond the scope of this channel
[20:42] <maddawg2> they show as added in the manager but i cant find them anywhere in ubuntu
[20:42] <maddawg2> how is seeing drives beyond the scope of this channel?
[20:42] <maddawg2> this is a ubuntu channel
[20:42] <daftykins> because it's using vmware
[20:42] <daftykins> vmware != ubuntu
[20:43] <maddawg2> i  am using ubuntu
[20:43] <maddawg2> it's not a vmware issue
[20:43] <daftykins> maddawg2: let me give you a piece of advice, arguing will automatically put you in the ignore category.
[20:43] <maddawg2> ubuntu cant see extra drives
[20:43] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: Then there is ( as feared) grub problems .. can you physically access the machine and have a liveDVD on hand to fix grub ???
[20:43] <maddawg2> WTF? I am asking a ubuntu related question it has very little to do with vmware
[20:43] <Guest8170> Bashing-om: So far, ZIP .  Nothing.  Period
[20:43] <daftykins> maddawg2: yes it's a vmware issue, not ubuntu. end of. go find a vmware channel
[20:43] <Ben64> maddawg2: ubuntu can see extra drives, there may be a problem with vmware, so you should look for vmware support
[20:43] <Guido1> daftykins: okee,, than i will make a smal shelfe for the drives. thank's a lot
[20:43] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: the machine has no dvd drive, only usb, but I can physically access it. Shit, I shouldn't have rebooted it.
[20:43] <daftykins> Guido1: no problem :)
[20:44] <maddawg2> ben64 no i just had it mounted they disappeared it's not a vmware problem i cant figure out how to get them mounted again
[20:44] <maddawg2> i think you guys misunderstand my question
[20:44] <Guest8170> Bashing-om: We are talking about the command "ls -la ~/" ?
[20:44] <Guido1> daftykins: saves me 900€ - recovery service ...
[20:44] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: As you were unable to release the lock on dpkg .. that is the next better thing to do ..
[20:44] <maddawg2> i was just mentioning I was using vmware so you know that i wasnt talking about an actualy physical drive... and besides the first time i did this I came here and got support for it
[20:45] <maddawg2> and it worked then
[20:45] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: ok should I create a USB installer of ubuntu 14.04 LTS now?
[20:45] <Guest8170> Bashing-om: BRB, Gotta walk the dog
[20:46] <Ben64> maddawg2: if you came in here with a physical drive that didn't show up, i'd say its a hardware problem and direct you to ##hardware ... since its not physical, its a vmware problem
[20:47] <maddawg2> ben64 first... it's not a hardware problem... I DONT KNOW THE COMMANDS TO MOUNT THE DRIVE OR EVEN WHERE TO FIND THE PHYSICAL LOCATION
[20:47] <maddawg2> thats the issue
[20:47] <Bashing-om> Guest8170: That 'ls -;a ~/' should have returned with lots of iles and directories in the output  - IF it exist .. ok what about -> ls -la /home <- . Should have at least 5 directories, and one of them as you.
[20:47] <maddawg2> if you dont want to help with the commands thats cool, but this is a ubuntu channel and it's a ubuntu command
[20:47] <daftykins> maddawg2: well now you explain it properly, the situation is a little different. try "sudo fdisk -l"
[20:48] <Ben64> maddawg2: you should try reading all before busting out the caps lock.
[20:48] <ChaseTrains> what is lost+found?
[20:48] <maddawg2> i did i get an output, but it seems to only show the one drive (the primary boot drive)
[20:48] <maddawg2> sda1
[20:48] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: Yeah, on some means to access the installed system and reinstall grub ( if you can not boot locally, that is ) .
[20:48] <maddawg2> i'd assume there was an sdb now
[20:49] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: i can connect a monitor and keyboard/mouse to it
[20:49] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: i will do that now
[20:49] <daftykins> maddawg2: yeah, which leads back to being a vmware problem
[20:51]  * pwei 
[20:51] <Guest5835> How do I bridge a connection with ubuntu 14.04 and a windows 8 machine?
[20:51] <Guest5835> between*
[20:53] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: OK, let's see what happens when you boot that box locally . - one step at a time - .
[20:55] <faugusztin_> Guest5835: simple answer - use network manager. complex answer - use ufw & nat
[20:56] <faugusztin_> Guest5835: https://jeremy.visser.name/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/nm-nat.png
[20:56] <faugusztin_> Guest5835: you need to change it to that for the interface which will provide DHCP for local network
[20:56] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: yea sure, I plugged in monitor/kb/mouse and I get to the main login screen without issues. when I login, it takes a few minutes now to get to the desktop screen and the ethernet is no longer being detected so it isn't making a connection and there's some boxes that pop up about an internal error and to report the issue
[20:58] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: OH boy ! That is not good ! // What in the world DID happen ???? // can you get out of house ? -> ping -c3 8.8.8.8 <- .
[21:00] <RainMan28> sorry Bashing-om I got disconnected
[21:01] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: my last " RainMan28: OH boy ! That is not good ! // What in the world DID happen ???? // can you get out of house ? -> ping -c3 8.8.8.8 <- ."
[21:01] <RainMan28> let me try Bashing-om
[21:02] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: connect: network is unreachable
[21:02] <maddawg> bleh ubuntu crashed on me... i figured it out daftykins wasnt a vmware issue
[21:03] <daftykins> oh? are you going to make me ask? :P
[21:03] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: Small stps , OK is the network card detected ? -> sudo lshw -C network <- .
[21:04] <maddawg> had to tell it to rescan daftykins
[21:04] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: yes, detecting both the wired gigabit interface as well as the wireless one
[21:04] <daftykins> maddawg: do you mean you added drives but never rebooted the VM? definitely a vmware issue then.
[21:05] <maddawg> echo "- - -" > /sys/class/scsi_host/host#/scan
[21:05] <maddawg> no i did daftykins but it didnt pick it up at startup
[21:05] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: Do we get an IP ? -> ifconfig eth0 (or whichever the network is,eth1) <- .
[21:05] <maddawg> i didnt add the drives with the machine on
[21:05] <maddawg> but also most OSes you can without shutting the guest down
[21:05] <daftykins> maddawg: that's still a virtualisation quirk then, but nevermind, solution's all that matters.
[21:06] <daftykins> let's move on
[21:07] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: getting an IPv6 but not an IPv4...i don't use ipv6 at all
[21:08] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: Next then is to check -> cat etc/network/interfaces <- is the interface defined there ?
[21:09] <Guest40262> hello
[21:10] <Guest8170> Bashing-om: Sorry it took so long.  The ls -la /nome came back with 5 things, including me.  The strange part is that me is surrounded in green
[21:11] <pwei> how do I enable cloaking?  I've got 1. ssl/sasl enabled 2. registered username w/ nickserv 3. have private set w/ nickserv -- my whois still is showing ip though
[21:11] <RainMan28> sorry Bashing-om I had another internet drop out... last message i sent you was that the /etc/network/interfaces file only had auto lo and iface lo inet loopback
[21:11] <pwei> whoops wrong channel sorry
[21:12] <Bashing-om> Guest8170: np, ok .. in that output is 'me' owned and grouped as 'you' eg mine: drwxr-xr-x 25 sysop sysop  4096 Jul 26 13:40 sysop // where I am 'sysop' .
[21:12] <excelsiora> what's the best practice virtualbox to install on 14.04?
[21:12] <Guest8170> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7868883/
[21:13] <ikonia> excelsiora: what do you mean ?
[21:13] <excelsiora> I want to go for the repo, but used to be the one straight from virtualbox had more stuff built in.
[21:13] <ikonia> excelsiora: so what's your question
[21:13] <Guest8170> Bashing-om: That'll explain better than I can
[21:13] <marklite> Any movie experts here?
[21:13] <excelsiora> which do I get? what are the tradeoffs?
[21:13] <excelsiora> currently for 14.04
[21:13] <ikonia> excelsiora: it's up to you to pick which one best suits your needs
[21:14] <excelsiora> well I don't know, because I don't know what the current state is.
[21:14] <excelsiora> Looks like my information is old.
[21:15] <ikonia> excelsiora: what are you not sure of
[21:15] <trap_exit> I have a problem with ssh being slow. I have already done UseDNS = no, GSSAPIKeyExchange = no, GSSAPIAuthentication = no. Now, when I do "ssh -v x@server", it hangs at "debug1: Entering interactive session." -- and just hangs there for a few seconds before giving me a shell. (By looking at the debug1 lot, I have already successfully authenticated via public key by now). What's cauing the delay
[21:16] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: Ungood then .. ok .. are you doing networking as 'static' or DHCP ?? We must tell the system what interface to use .
[21:16] <excelsiora> I'm wondering difference between version in repos versus version from virtualbox
[21:16] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: static IP
[21:17] <ikonia> excelsiora: the versions and who supports them
[21:18] <faugusztin_> excelsiora: the ubuntu version is the open source version. the one from virtualbox is the one where you can install their extensions (if i am not mistaken)
[21:18] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: should I edit my /etc/network/interfaces file to set the static IP? I know how to do that part
[21:18] <excelsiora> you're currently mistaken
[21:18] <ikonia> excelsiora: how is he mistaken ?
[21:18] <Bashing-om> Guest8170: "drwx---rwx 112 you  you  105508864 Jul 26 22:11 you' That size is totally unexpected ! .. once more, what results -> ls -la /home/you <- ??
[21:19] <excelsiora> apt-cache policy virtualbox
[21:19] <ikonia> excelsiora: how is he mistaken ?
[21:19] <excelsiora> 4.3.10-dfsg-1
[21:19] <ikonia> excelsiora: how is he mistaken ?
[21:19] <Guest8170> Bashing-om: Nohing
[21:19] <excelsiora> version 4 is now unified, private stuff is an add on
[21:19] <ikonia> excelsiora: what are you talking about
[21:19] <excelsiora> I can get 4.3.14 from virtualbox.org
[21:20] <faugusztin_> excelsiora: ok... https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Editions
[21:20] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: OH Boy .. lemme give you an example what it should look like .. gimme a tic to pastebin it.
[21:20] <faugusztin_> excelsiora: in that case it is just how often and who makes the builds
[21:22] <excelsiora> read this: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Editions
[21:23] <ikonia> excelsiora: why do we need to read it ?
[21:23] <ikonia> excelsiora: you are the one saying "which should I use, I don't know the difference"
[21:23] <excelsiora> yeah, but your info is old.
[21:23] <excelsiora> no big deal
[21:23] <ikonia> my info is not old
[21:24] <ChaseTrains> should the discard option be set for ssd-disks in fstab?
[21:24] <Bashing-om> Guest8170: Sorry to say, I have no idea now as to how to access that folder. Others will have to advise, and I too will be in a learning mode.
[21:24] <excelsiora> ok, so do I install 4.3.10 from the repo or 4.3.14 from virtualbox.org? I'm looking over the changelog at the moment.
[21:25] <Guest8170> Bashing-om: thx anyway
[21:25] <ikonia> excelsiora: it's up to you
[21:25] <Guest8170> bye
[21:25] <excelsiora> https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Changelog
[21:25] <ikonia> excelsiora: you need to use which one suits your needs best
[21:25] <excelsiora> Looks like they'll be fairly much identical as far as I can tell.
[21:25] <excelsiora> aside from the number of bug-fixes between versions.
[21:26] <excelsiora> Why doesn't the repo have version 4.3.14?
[21:26] <ikonia> excelsiora: because it was built before it was released.
[21:27] <excelsiora> Can we upgrade the version in the repo?
[21:27] <ikonia> excelsiora: no
[21:28] <excelsiora> So that version will be frozen for 14.04 for all time?
[21:28] <ikonia> yes
[21:28] <excelsiora> ok
[21:30] <liminal> hello
[21:30] <liminal> im running ubuntu 14.04
[21:30] <excelsiora> So I think I'm going to go with virtualbox.org's version, ostensibly I'll be able to upgrade it. But it won't be supported by Ubuntu. Hmm... maybe I'll just stick with the Ubuntu version. Are there any downsides for the Ubuntu version? Can I install the add-ons like usb support?
[21:30] <liminal> network manager is not showing me any mobile broadband options
[21:31] <liminal> not sure why
[21:31] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: Take a look : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7869013/ <- as an example only , sub yout correct IPs.
[21:32] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: was just about to message you. I set a static IP, brought up the interface via sudo ifup eth0, got ssh running again
[21:32] <Bashing-om> Guest22373: I truely would like to comprehend what and how .. I presently have not a clue .
[21:33] <saleem> I have a weird folder named as JpuNGnR8Tw in my home folder and if i try to right click on it to see its properties or size my system freezes , is this something normal or a ghost folder in my home folder only?
[21:33] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: Outstanding .. makeing progress .. ping to 8.8.8.8 is now good ????
[21:33] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: then ran sudo dpkg --configure -a and its back to where it left off
[21:33] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: seems to be updating fine now
[21:33] <liminal> if you click on the network manager do you see an option to enable mobile broadband by default?
[21:34] <saleem> i hope somebody knows what is this folder about
[21:34] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: You ran all the apt-gets prior to the 'configure' ?? - required ! -
[21:35] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: no, I didn't. :(
[21:36] <codephobic> hi
[21:37] <ilya> hi
[21:37] <codephobic> anyone recommend a decent hardware channel on irc (for my MSI motherboard).
[21:37] <codephobic> I know this isn't the right place to ask, so apologies for having done so, but really out of ideas and so frustrated right now.
[21:37] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: just did all the clean commands and the autoremove ones, it removed a few things
[21:38] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: now restarted and no issues
[21:38] <saleem> ok found the answer it was made by bleachbit :P
[21:38] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: lsb_release -d  = Description: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS  :)
[21:39] <jasunto> how would i ssh to my ubuntu box with username thats an email since it already has @ in it?
[21:40] <jasunto> user@gmail.com@4.4.4.4?
[21:40] <jasunto> doesnt work
[21:40] <ikonia> you don't use one
[21:40] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: Great, could be that we are now home free ! .. If the package manager is happy, update works, and system is stable => looking good .. what returns now from -> lsb_release -a <- .. and is /etc/apt/sources.list file reflecting 'trusty' ?
[21:40] <ikonia> usernames do not contain emails
[21:40] <jasunto> long story
[21:40] <jasunto> username has @ in it
[21:40] <ikonia> usernames do not contain emails
[21:40] <jasunto> i tried ticking and quoting jsut the email
[21:40] <jasunto> ' and "
[21:40] <ikonia> usernames do not contain emails
[21:41] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: yep, we're seeing trusty in both lsb_release -a and in the /etc/apt/sources.list file :)
[21:41] <jasunto> mine does
[21:42] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: Then I trust this is a done deal .. and we can all go home and sleep well this night .
[21:42] <ikonia> jasunto: then it shouldn't
[21:42] <jasunto> fo sheezy
[21:42] <jasunto> has to
[21:42] <ikonia> jasunto: talk to your system adminstrator
[21:42] <ikonia> no, it shouldn't
[21:42] <jasunto> i am
[21:42] <ikonia> not "has to"
[21:42] <jasunto> lol
[21:42] <liminal> hello
[21:42] <RainMan28> Bashing-om: thank you so much. One more question for you -- if I only access this machine via SSH normally, should I be running ubuntu server on it vs desktop? When I plug a monitor into it I see that its just sitting at the main login screen all the time
[21:43] <liminal> clicky clicky network manager#
[21:43] <liminal> not hard
[21:43] <ikonia> liminal: no-one said network manager is hard
[21:44] <sfranken> Heey, I have a kernel related question, am I in the right channel?
[21:46] <liminal> ikonia don't want to get into a philosophical debate about the motivational reward of fulfilling this utility
[21:46] <ikonia> liminal: what?
[21:46] <liminal> click network manger > mobile broadband showing.
[21:46] <liminal> yes / no
[21:46] <ikonia> liminal: what's your actual question ?
[21:46] <Bashing-om> RainMan28: On a server install there is no GUI .. and installing a GUI is a security risk .
[21:47] <liminal> you have the option to enable wifi, enable networking and... maybe enable mobile broadband
[21:47] <liminal> however not sure if it requires a compatible device to be detected first
[21:47] <ikonia> liminal: right, so what's the question ?
[21:47] <ikonia> liminal: yes, you can't enable network on a device that doesn't exist
[21:49] <liminal> dang not listed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager/Hardware/3G
[21:50] <ChaseTrains> Hi. I've been googling my bottom off, and still can't understand why jbd2 (journaling) is writing to my empty secondary disk every 3-5 sec, or how to disable that (let the disk be untouched for hours since I don't want it to spin up). Ideas? One option is to just let it spin.. but it's noisy when the rest of the computer is pretty much free of mechanics.
[21:51] <ikonia> ChaseTrains: how are you checking the journam writes ?
[21:51] <sfranken> ChaseTrains: Isn't there a config for that in /etc/default by any chance?
[21:52] <ChaseTrains> ikonia: iotop . jbd2/sdb is writing to a disk that's mounted with noatime
[21:52] <ChaseTrains> sfranken: config for what?
[21:52] <ikonia> ChaseTrains: are you sure it's not reading ?
[21:53] <sfranken> ChaseTrains: your FS mounts/other FS related issues
[21:53] <sfranken> ChaseTrains: I'm a bit out of my league with JDB2, so regard my comments if they're stupid
[21:54] <ChaseTrains> ikonia: it's writing. 0 bytes read
[21:55] <ikonia> ChaseTrains: thats odd, that used to be a bug in the 2.6 kernel but it was fixed ages ago
[21:55] <ikonia> ChaseTrains: can you pastebin the output of the command "mount" please
[21:56] <MetaleerIsGay> METALEER IS GAY GUYS
[21:56] <MetaleerIsGay> :D
[21:56] <sfranken> ikonia sorry to barge in between like this, but would you happen to know if there are downsides to setting MODULES=dep in /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/modules followed by rebuilding your initramFS (update-initramfs -u) ?
[21:56] <ChaseTrains>  /dev/sdb1 on /mnt/stuff type ext4 (rw) .. hmm, should be noatime.. brb, reboot
[21:57] <ikonia> sfranken: minor performane hit
[21:57] <ikonia> I doubt it's anything you'd see with the naked yee
[21:57] <ikonia> eye
[21:57] <sfranken> ChaseTrains: you mean rw,noatime, roght?
[21:58] <sfranken> ikonia: ah, I figured. So modules=dep doesn't do much, besides make my initrd.img ~2 megs instead of 20
[21:58] <ikonia> sfranken: pretty much
[21:58] <k4v1k> Hello All!
[21:58] <sfranken> ikonia: Thanks for the info
[22:01] <sfranken> Gotta go, Goodnight
[22:01] <ChaseTrains> sfranken: yeah.. that's the mode right now. But it appears that the jdb2 writing is a bug that hasn't been patched yet (since 2010)
[22:02] <ikonia> it was patched
[22:02] <iceburnt> hi friends, could you tell me a solution, I've installed gnome subtitle. but when I will sync the subtitle and video. the error happened. it says that it couldnot open the file "You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessary plugins." "GStreamer encountered a general stream error.". could you tell me how to solve these?
[22:08] <gaymuch> how do i get a girlfriend?
[22:08] <ikonia> by not asking in here
[22:08] <ikonia> gaymuch: this channel is for ubuntu discussion - please don't deviate from that topic
[22:09] <gaymuch> how do i get a girlfriend that is using ubuntu?
[22:11] <gaymuch> hey
[22:13] <joseluis64> Hello! how may I compile the virtualbox driver with a custom kernel?
[22:13] <ikonia> if you're running a custom kernel - it's up to you/the person who built the kernel to support you
[22:14] <arcsky> hello i got some issue, i just did apt-get install php5 apache2 and restarted apache2. but php didnt work. do i need to add a line in apach2 config or so?
[22:14] <ikonia> arcsky: define "didn't work"
[22:14] <joseluis64> but is the Ubuntu package...
[22:14] <ikonia> joseluis64: then it's not a custom kernel
[22:14] <joseluis64> yes, is a custom kernel
[22:15] <iceburnt> hi friends, could you tell me a solution, I've installed gnome subtitle. but when I will sync the subtitle and video. the error happened. it says that it couldnot open the file "You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessary plugins." "GStreamer encountered a general stream error.". could you tell me how to solve these?
[22:15] <ikonia> joseluis64: then it's up to you / the person who made your custom kernel to support you
[22:15] <joseluis64> no matter if use Ubuntu virtualbox
[22:15] <delinquentme> leaving computer on: can someone stick a USB into my laptop and have some piece of code auto execute ... even if my screen is locked??
[22:16] <joseluis64> ?
[22:16] <arcsky> ikonia: i dont see any with my simple test php script. <php? echo info(); ?>
[22:16] <ikonia> joseluis64: correct
[22:16] <ikonia> arcsky: did you install the php apache module
[22:16] <joseluis64> I feel like a ball, thank you.
[22:17] <arcsky> ikonia: libapache2-mod-php5 that one?
[22:17] <arcsky> is installed
[22:17] <ikonia> arcsky: looks right
[22:17] <arcsky> ikonia: Module php5 already enabled
[22:18] <ikonia> arcsky: what does the apache error log show
[22:18] <ikonia> arcsky: how are you trying to access the page
[22:19] <maddawg> hmm intersting.. having a permissions problem with a folder on my ubuntu machine
[22:19] <killmaker> can ubuntu go on a ipad
[22:19] <maddawg> i'm trying to make it writeable by everyone
[22:19] <ikonia> killmaker: no
[22:19] <maddawg> including deleting files
[22:19] <maddawg> for some reason owner was set to root and only root could write and delete from it but i cant figure out how to change it so everyone can
[22:19] <maddawg> i tried to do it through the GUI but for some reason the "File access" keeps showing as blank
[22:20] <maddawg> is there  a way to make it so all users can read and write to it?
[22:20] <arcsky> ikonia: i found the issue.. do the php freally needs to be .php ? i want it as index.html
[22:20] <ikonia> arcsky: there we go, well done
[22:21] <arcsky> ikonia: if i rename it to index.html i doesnt work
[22:21] <Bashing-om> maddawg: How about -> sudo chmod 777 <file_name> < - .
[22:21] <Beldar> killmaker, No ubuntu wiki's on ipad there are for macs you might look at this google search, https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=ubuntu+ipad&btnG=&gbv=1&sei=sCnUU5nyOIzroASljoLgCg
[22:21] <maddawg> Bashing-om, it's a folder tho
[22:21] <ikonia> arcsky: correct as it doesn't know to associate that with the php module
[22:22] <maddawg> /mnt/media
[22:22] <ikonia> maddawg: what file system is on it
[22:22] <maddawg> it's an LVM
[22:22] <ikonia> it still has a file system on it
[22:22] <maddawg> ext4
[22:23] <Jeffrey_f> I have rsyslog server running, but I want to capture previous data.  Other than messed up logs, what would be the impact of copying older logs into the current logs so the logging server can get the older data?
[22:23] <ikonia> and who owns the files ?
[22:23] <arcsky> ikonia: how can i solve that?
[22:23] <maddawg> well there is nothing in it ikonia i'm trying to create stuff
[22:23] <maddawg> the directory is owned by root
[22:23] <maddawg> i changed it to me but now i can write but cant delete
[22:24] <ikonia> maddawg: pastebin the output of "ls -la" in the root of the directory please.
[22:25] <maddawg> !pastebin
[22:26] <maddawg> ikonia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7869393/
[22:27] <ikonia> maddawg: seems od
[22:27] <ikonia> odd
[22:27] <maddawg> no kidding
[22:27] <maddawg> lol
[22:28] <Ozera||> I'm using chrome on ubunutu 12.04. I can't zoom in on images via chrome. Anyone know how to fix this?
[22:28] <ikonia> maddawg: so you are currently the user "jake" correct ?
[22:28] <maddawg> yep
[22:28] <ikonia> maddawg: and you're trying ot create content in /mnt or /mnt/media
[22:28] <maddawg> interesting it deletes if i drag it to the trash
[22:29] <maddawg> but not if i right click on it and select move to trash
[22:29] <maddawg> that is greyed out
[22:29] <BhAwN> ikonia: nice one.... you were "calm" right?
[22:29] <maddawg> but as long as i can actually delete
[22:29] <ikonia> BhAwN: please don't start up in here
[22:29] <maddawg> it works with rm too so thats good
[22:29] <ikonia> maddawg: which one are you working in /mnt or /mnt/media
[22:30] <maddawg> /mnt/media
[22:30] <ikonia> maddawg: so if you do "touch /mnt/media/test" does test get created and with what permissions ?
[22:30] <maddawg> let me check
[22:31] <maddawg> ikonia, -rw-rw-r-- 1 jake jake    0 Jul 26 18:30 test
[22:31] <ikonia> maddawg: and you can delete it .....?
[22:31] <ikonia> (rm it
[22:31] <ikonia> )
[22:32] <maddawg> yes that works.. i mentioned befoer that works.. guess its just the right click option that doesnt
[22:32] <maddawg> strange tho
[22:32] <maddawg> it's ok as long as it can be deleted using rm
[22:32] <ikonia> maddawg: possible bug with either the file manager, or the .trash directory has screwed up permissions
[22:32] <maddawg> ikonia have you ever used an LVM type partition on ubuntu?
[22:32] <ikonia> maddawg: any times
[22:33] <maddawg> i recently set that up and had it span two volumes but when i go to view the size it still says 1.5TB
[22:33] <maddawg> it should be 3 cuz i combined two
[22:33] <ikonia> maddawg: sorry - not to be rude but "volumes" can mean anything, you've got a volume group and a logical volume, which one are you talking about
[22:34] <maddawg> ... i think volume group maybe
[22:34] <maddawg> lol
[22:34] <Mojtaba> Hi, I have script and I want to run some part of it, if it is not copied in home directory. (The script is going to cooy itself to home directory.) hence that part of the code should run once.
[22:34] <Mojtaba> How can I compare some part of strings with each other?
[22:34] <ikonia> maddawg: ok, so how are you measuring the size
[22:34] <maddawg> yes
[22:34] <maddawg> i used vgdisplay and i got this
[22:34] <maddawg> i will paste it
[22:34] <maddawg> too long
[22:34] <ikonia> maddawg: use a pastebin
[22:34] <ikonia> (please)
[22:35] <maddawg> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7869444/
[22:35] <ikonia> maddawg: it's 4tb
[22:35] <maddawg> it says Alloc PE / Size       783810 / 2.99 TiB
[22:35] <ikonia> oops
[22:35] <ikonia> 3tb
[22:36] <Beldar> Ozera||, ctrl and the mouse wheel zooms in and out.
[22:36] <maddawg> but then below it in free space it says 10.98GB
[22:36] <maddawg> why?
[22:36] <maddawg> it shouild be empty
[22:36] <maddawg> there is nothing on the drive
[22:36] <ikonia> maddawg: because you have allocated it to logical volumes
[22:36] <maddawg> not sure what that means
[22:36] <ikonia> maddawg: vg's don't hold data - they hole physical extents, you've allocated them to logical volumes, which are "empty"
[22:36] <maddawg> sorry
[22:36] <ikonia> maddawg: think of it as a disk
[22:37] <maddawg> ok...
[22:37] <maddawg> but how come df -h shows it at 1.5TB free and so does the file manager
[22:37] <ikonia> maddawg: if you have a 3TB disk and you make 1x3TB partition, the disk is "empty" but there is no free space
[22:37] <gaymuch> i have a problem: after watching youtube for a few hours in html5 in Chromium, chromium will start freezing up and if i dont restart it fast enough it will completely hang my system without the ability to use it anyhow for 10-30 minutes. I have 14.04 and 4 gb memory
[22:37] <ikonia> maddawg: so in this case it's a 3TB disk, and you've allocated a 2.99TB partition leaving 10GB of unallocated space (hence "free")
[22:37] <maddawg> oh i gotcha i think
[22:38] <ikonia> maddawg: volume groups are nothing to do with the filesystem/how much data you have
[22:38] <gaymuch> and during that my hard drive will be working non-stop
[22:38] <maddawg> lol... now is there a reason why the filemanager doesnt see it as 3TB?
[22:38] <ikonia> maddawg: so try not to think of it like that
[22:38] <maddawg> ok
[22:38] <maddawg> i gotcha
[22:38] <Beldar> Ozera||, You can also ctrl ahnd hit the + or - to zoom and go back in chrome.
[22:38] <ikonia> maddawg: can you pastebin the output of "lvdisplay" please
[22:38] <ikonia> maddawg: lets see what you've got
[22:38] <maddawg> so i should be able to copy 3TB of stuff to it despite the fact that the filemanager says 1.5TB
[22:38] <maddawg> ok
[22:39] <ikonia> maddawg: lets see what you've got before making an assumption
[22:39] <maddawg> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7869462/
[22:39] <maddawg> says volume size 2.99TB
[22:39] <maddawg> so that's good
[22:39] <ikonia> maddawg: ok, so you've extended the volume, but I'm going to guess you've not extened the file system on the volume
[22:39] <maddawg> oh
[22:40] <ikonia> maddawg: so the "disk" size has changed, but the file system doesn't know it's changed
[22:40] <ikonia> maddawg: get it ?
[22:40] <maddawg> i see
[22:40] <maddawg> ok
[22:40] <maddawg> http://askubuntu.com/questions/7002/how-to-set-up-multiple-hard-drives-as-one-volume
[22:40] <maddawg> i used those instructions when i did it
[22:40] <ricksebak> I'm on 12.04 now. When I do "sudo do-release-upgrade" it still tells me that no new release is available. What's the deal?
[22:40] <Etale> Hi all. I'm having some trouble with Ubuntu installation. I have a brand new Lenovo T440p with Windows 8. I'm trying to install Ubuntu so that it will dual boot. I've installed Ubuntu Secure Remix 13.04, but now when I boot I always get just windows 8, and not the grub splash screen...
[22:40] <ikonia> maddawg: give me a moment
[22:41] <maddawg> ikonia is extending the file system something i should do?
[22:41] <roeijac> Etale check your bios settings
[22:41] <Etale> roeijac, I checked "both" for the question of whether doing UEFI or Legacy.
[22:41] <ikonia> maddawg: looks like you've missed a step
[22:41] <Etale> If I just do legacy it won't boot at all.
[22:41] <maddawg> oh noes
[22:41] <ikonia> maddawg: sudo e2fsck -f /dev/media/volume  then sudo resize2fs /dev/media/volume
[22:41] <Beldar> Etale, 13.04 is end of life, and I'm not sure the secure remix is even supported here when not eol.
[22:41] <maddawg> oh i did that step
[22:42] <ikonia> maddawg: must have just missed it
[22:42] <ikonia> maddawg: don't forget don't run fsck while it's mounted
[22:42] <Etale> Beldar, the 14.04 livecd wouldn't boot at all. It would just be stuck on the Ubuntu logo screen...
[22:42] <ikonia> maddawg: (you don't need to fsck - this can be done online, but as I don't know what you've done %100 lets be safe)
[22:42] <maddawg> ikonia ok i will unmount it and try those commands again
[22:42] <df3d2> How do I figure out the "command line name" of a gui app? I want to run an app with sudo permissions but I'm not sure what the command for it is
[22:43] <ikonia> maddawg: only those 2 - nothing else
[22:43] <Beldar> Etale, We can only support what is under support, not eol's, the 14.04 issue is one we can.
[22:43] <Beldar> Etale, 12.04 is also supported
[22:43] <roeijac> Hey guys, what's the most popular workspace for developing with C? In Ubuntu of course
[22:43] <tr33m4n> maddawg: you probably have already, but have you tried restarting? Sometimes the kernel needs a reboot to register disk changes
[22:44] <PocketDog> df3d2, just run 'top' in terminal, that'll tell you the process
[22:44] <Etale> Presumably, the right thing to do is to run "boot-repair" from the livecd, but it says that if it's not connected to the internet then my system may become unbootable. But I can't connect to the internet from the livecd for some reason...
[22:44] <df3d2> PocketDog: Yeah I don't see it..
[22:44] <Etale> Beldar, presumably the 14.04 issue has something to do with this post:  https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/246834
[22:44] <Beldar> Etale, 13.04 besides not being supported is not in the main ubuntu repos.
[22:44] <df3d2> it's not in any lists
[22:44] <Etale> I'm not sure Thinkpad T440p plays nicely with 14.04...
[22:45] <Mojtaba> I want to run some part of the script, if the script is not in the home directory. Do you know how should I do that?
[22:45] <maddawg> ikonia says device is busy but nothing is using it :-\
[22:45] <ikonia> maddawg: fuser -fuc /mnt/media
[22:45] <ikonia> maddawg: $10 says it's your shell
[22:45] <Etale> Beldar, that's terrible! So maybe I should try 12.04 instead? That makes not intuitive sense, though. Why would 12.04 be better supported than 13.04?
[22:46] <PocketDog> df3d2, have you tried htop? it's a more detailed top
[22:46] <maddawg> ikonia, /mnt/media:           2577c(jake)
[22:46] <ikonia> ps -ef | Grep 2577
[22:46] <tr33m4n> maddawg: you have tried restarting, yes?
[22:46] <ikonia> maddawg: $10 - it's your shell
[22:46] <df3d2> PocketDog: yes I see nothing relevant also tried using ps aux | grep "prog name"
[22:46] <Beldar> Etale, There is a support time for all releases, 12.04 is a long term 5 years support same for 14.04 the one between have shorter support times is all.
[22:47] <maddawg> lol ikonia yep
[22:47] <ikonia> maddawg: cd /
[22:47] <maddawg> good thing i didnt shake on it
[22:47] <maddawg> lol got it
[22:47] <ikonia> maddawg: common error
[22:47] <Etale> I see. So maybe I'll try installing 12.04, then. Do you guys have any suggestions about this terrible UEFI stuff? I'm really annoyed at how much trouble it's causing.
[22:48] <df3d2> PocketDog: the first answer here worked: http://superuser.com/questions/479888/how-to-find-out-the-name-and-path-of-a-running-gui-application-on-linux
[22:48] <df3d2> usb-creator-gtk
[22:48] <Beldar> Etale, Your issues are with that manufacturers and that computer specifically, not all uefi, just a heads up is all .;)
[22:48] <maddawg> ikonia running those commands now... good thing they were in my history
[22:49] <maddawg> Ikonia: getting the same thing as before... "Resizing the filesystem on /dev/media/volume to 802621440 (4k) blocks.
[22:49] <maddawg> so i guess it's working
[22:49] <ikonia> maddawg: looks like it
[22:49] <maddawg> it did that before tho
[22:50] <maddawg> i remember i went away for lke 10 minutes while it finished lol
[22:50] <Beldar> Etale, 12.04 has 3 more years of support so we can help you there if needed, and we are all bummed when things don't work that is why I'm here anyway to help if I can. ;)
[22:52]  * maddawg whistles a tune
[22:52] <Etale> Beldar, I see that some people have, and I quote (because I have no technical understanding of this) "scrapped the whole UEFI boot for MBR boot". Is that a thing that it would make sense for me to do?
[22:52] <maddawg> linux should give you elevator music when you have to wait this long for commands to finish lol
[22:52] <maddawg> jk
[22:53] <df3d2> Usb-creator-gtk doesn't seem to work, "make startup disk" is greyed out and it throws some error after a bit when i tell it to "erase disk"
[22:53] <df3d2> the disk is fine however. I can format it etc w/ gparted
[22:53] <maddawg> df3d2, u running it as root?
[22:53] <Beldar> Etale, Sure however all we see are problems on the net and here, not all the other success, you have to use some critical thought, not confirmation bias.
[22:53] <df3d2> maddawg: yep
[22:53] <maddawg> ok.. thats as far as i can help
[22:54] <maddawg> lol
[22:54] <maddawg> ikonia, Resizing the filesystem on /dev/media/volume to 802621440 (4k) blocks.
[22:54] <df3d2> i tried unetbootin on windows and it said everything worked
[22:54] <maddawg> oops
[22:54] <df3d2> but I keep getting not a valid boot device
[22:54] <df3d2> so ill try unetbootin on linux
[22:54] <maddawg> ikonia, The filesystem on /dev/media/volume is now 802621440 blocks long.
[22:54] <df3d2> OOOh I should check the md5 of the iso I guess
[22:54] <maddawg> that didnt show the last time lol
[22:54] <ikonia> maddawg: mount it up
[22:55] <jeffreylevesque> where can i download grub2 iso file?
[22:55] <maddawg> k mounted ikonia
[22:55] <ikonia> jeffreylevesque: it's not an iso file
[22:55] <Beldar> jeffreylevesque, Can you address the issue, there is no grub 2 iso file.
[22:55] <ikonia> maddawg: and is the size correct....
[22:55] <maddawg> yep
[22:55] <jeffreylevesque> how can install grub2 on my usb from a mac
[22:55] <ikonia> job done
[22:55] <maddawg> looks like it is now
[22:56] <maddawg> Thanks :-)
[22:56] <PocketDog> df3d2, thanks for that
[22:56] <maddawg> i'm hoping it's big enough lol
[22:56] <Beldar> jeffreylevesque, Besides this what is the end goal?
[22:56] <maddawg> stupid cloud drive wont tell me how large my folder is that i want to download lol
[22:56] <jeffreylevesque> to boot up my ubuntu server
[22:56] <df3d2> PocketDog: for what
[22:56] <jeffreylevesque> from my usb
[22:56] <PocketDog> df3d2, for the link
[22:57] <df3d2> I didn't link anything
[22:57] <Beldar> jeffreylevesque, Do you want it that way, and use nicks to preface answer to another plaes.
[22:57] <Beldar> please*
[22:57] <Bashing-om> jeffreylevesque: Boot a ubuntu liveDVD, and from the liveDVD install grub onto the USB device.
[22:57] <maddawg> hell yea... it's downloading at 50MB/s
[22:57] <jeffreylevesque> is that the only way?
[22:57] <maddawg> hehehe
[22:58] <df3d2> Okay So the MD5 of my download matches
[22:58] <maddawg> man i love having a gigabit
[22:58] <df3d2> but I can't get this usb to boot
[22:58] <Beldar> !who | jeffreylevesque
[22:58] <jeffreylevesque> Bashing-om: can i download http://sourceforge.net/projects/kcm-grub2/ onto my USB?
[22:58] <ikonia> jeffreylevesque: is this to boot ubuntu /
[22:59] <jeffreylevesque> ya
[22:59] <Bashing-om> jeffreylevesque: Look'n .
[22:59] <ikonia> jeffreylevesque: then use an ubuntu disk to use the same version of grub that it expects
[22:59] <maddawg> thanks ikonia for all your help... looks like i got a long night of downloading my media
[22:59] <maddawg> ikonia is it possible to extend an LVM even more without erasing it
[22:59] <maddawg> ?
[23:00] <maddawg> i can keep adding volumes to it right?
[23:00] <ikonia> maddawg: totally
[23:00] <maddawg> sweet
[23:00] <ikonia> maddawg: zero issue at all
[23:00] <maddawg> ovh is downloading at 65MB/s i'm so excited
[23:00] <maddawg> i didnt think my cloud provider wuld upload that fast
[23:01] <maddawg> took me like 4 days to upload everything to it to begin with
[23:01] <Bashing-om> jeffreylevesque: Nope, that is not the bootloader, but a means to 'reconfigure' what is. // You can boot that server from a liveUSB of ubuntu ( boot from 1st hard drive option) .
[23:01] <Etale> Let me ask you guys a general question that may come up in the near future. Let's say I have UEFI and a windows 8, as well as an Ubuntu installation, but I never get a grub splash menu in the beginning, and it only boots to Windows. Is there a livecd I can put in so that it will give me the option to boot into the Ubuntu that I already have installed on my computer?
[23:01] <df3d2> Okay so I guess my problem was with Unetbootin on Windows
[23:02] <df3d2> the linux version worked fine and i'm booting Lubuntu install on the laptop.
[23:02] <df3d2> still not sure why Startup Disk Creator on linux failed to work
[23:06] <Etale> I'm downloading Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS (Precise Pangolin). Is that supported?
[23:06] <df3d2> yea
[23:06] <df3d2> since it is LTS
[23:06] <Etale> Should I get 12.10 intead?
[23:06] <Etale> *instead
[23:07] <Nimble> I don't think 12.10 is supported anymore, Etale
[23:07] <Etale> Okay.
[23:07] <Beldar> Etale, This is not an unusual problem and there are work around's to it so rather than just info it has to be dealt with in real time is all.
[23:07] <Nimble> iirc 12.04 and 14.04 are the currently supported versions
[23:07] <Etale> Beldar, okay. I'll probably have this problem in about 40 minutes.
[23:08] <Muchachao> Hi guys, I'm trying to install a ./configure file. The error I get is "No package 'xinerama' found". I searched the package "xinerama" in apt-get, but I could not find the package. Somebody knows which package I should install to get xinerama?
[23:09] <Beldar> Etale, Another heads up, uefi is not really known by many here so be prepared to have some wait, however there are some user at the ubuntu forums as well, all this will take some patience and or research on you part is all.
[23:09] <Beldar> users*
[23:10] <iamwhoiam> not so much an ubuntu question but iwill try: i am trying to install tor, and when i ask for the public key with gpg --keyserver etc, i get timeout. I think that is because of firewall/port issues. Does anybody know how to deal with this?
[23:10] <daftykins> Etale: in your example, is this computer a custom build or a prebuilt laptop?
[23:10] <df3d2> iamwhoiam: find out what ports it rquires and open them ?
[23:13] <iamwhoiam> df3d2: in tor installing manual/guide they dont mention anything about ports..the timeout error is what made think about the firewall (behind a uni network)
[23:13] <Beldar> daftykins, Etale has a  brand new Lenovo T440p with Windows 8. ;)
[23:13] <daftykins> ooh my my
[23:13] <daftykins> Beldar: ty sir
[23:13] <knuu> Hello
[23:13] <daftykins> hi
[23:13] <knuu> Any xubuntu users on here?
[23:13] <Beldar> daftykins, My pleasure we want it to work.
[23:14] <knuu> I installed it on my Samsung q1 and the bluetooth and mouse stopped working
[23:14] <knuu> It worked before though.
[23:14] <Bashing-om> Muchachao: IF you know what you are doing : http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libxcb-xinerama0 ...
[23:14] <knuu> Any ideas?
[23:15] <daftykins> knuu: what do you mean by before? what was before xubuntu?
[23:15] <knuu> I mean underXUbuntu
[23:15] <knuu> then it stopped working
[23:15] <knuu> Only thing that could be a problem is I installed java.
[23:16] <knuu> But I don't think that would be a problem
[23:16] <knuu> Prior I had XP
[23:16] <eeee> Etale: if you don't get the grub menu it's probably due to a hard-coded bios, you can rename the .efi files to trick it into loading grub.
[23:17] <Etale> eeee, how?
[23:17] <Etale> daftykins, right. I have a Lenovo T440p. I customized to have some ridiculous properties like a 16GB RAM.
[23:18] <eeee> Etale: well, first try to get to the boot options during start up, you should see something akin to OS manager & ubuntu below it
[23:18] <daftykins> Etale: :D
[23:19] <daftykins> Etale: i was going to say something along the lines of what eeee is suggesting... although mine would have been a tad simpler
[23:19] <Etale> eeee, I don't... When I click on F12 I see some things like a "Windows boot" and a "CD ROM", etc. None of them lead to Ubuntu...
[23:20] <daftykins> Etale: yeah you want to change 'Windows Boot Manager' to be the name of the hard disk / SSD
[23:20] <Etale> SSD
[23:20] <daftykins> Etale: modern Lenovos are starting to come with separate buttons that let you gain access to the EFI setup, the one-time boot menu won't be enough
[23:20] <eeee> Etale: did you install the main OS yet? (ubuntu?)
[23:20] <Etale> But anyway, none of them lead to Ubuntu...
[23:21] <eeee> Etale: yes as daftykins is suggesting, there should be a key to load the boot options menu, OS manager, ubuntu & boot from EFI file,
[23:21] <daftykins> eeee: do you see what i mean, also? do you think it's worth a try before going so far as to editing the EFI partition contents?
[23:21] <Etale> daftykins, right. There is. eeee , I did. But I installed a "Ubuntu 13.04 secure remix". I'm going to try to install 12.04 instead because it's supported, though 13.04 is not.
[23:21] <eeee> daftykins: definitely.
[23:21] <Muchachao> Bashing-om, thank you for reply. I installed the package that you suggested, but I still get the error. Should I install the sub-packages?
[23:22] <Etale> eeee, boot options menu, huh? Wait, let me try this.
[23:22] <daftykins> Etale: sounds like a good plan, for how long it may take though, would you like to try and just see if this will boot before starting again?
[23:22] <Etale> Oh, no, I can't.
[23:22] <Etale> I'm still download 12.04. I'll have to try it later.
[23:22] <daftykins> oh, are you using the same machine to download 12.04?
[23:22] <Etale> daftykins, that would make sense. I'll just wait for the download to finish first.
[23:22] <Etale> daftykins, yeah.
[23:23] <daftykins> Etale: ok :) do you have a camera to take pictures of the EFI setup screens at all?
[23:23] <Etale> I'll let you know when it finishes.
[23:23] <Bashing-om> Muchachao: I did say "IF" .. OK, what is the goal here from the beginning, that is the cause now of the problem ?
[23:23] <Etale> Sure...
[23:23] <neruda> hi, Im having a problem with 14.04 amd64 server, when i use it as a vm, changes dont persist between reboots
[23:23] <daftykins> Etale: if once your download completes you could take pictures of each screen then come back and share them with us, we might be able to point you right
[23:23] <Etale> daftykins, okay.
[23:24] <Etale> (How should I share them?)
[23:24] <daftykins> Etale: there are some good free image sharing sites such as imgur.com , tinypic.com ... many more
[23:24] <Muchachao> Bashing-om, the goal is to install the https://davedavenport.github.io/rofi/
[23:24] <Bashing-om> Muchachao: Look'n .
[23:27] <knuu> Does Java work well on Xubuntu or no really?
[23:27] <knuu> not
[23:28] <maddawg> yikes 133MB of ram for firefox... i remember when entire OSes were that
[23:28] <Etale> Okay, download complete. I'm restarting.
[23:28] <knuu> nice
[23:29] <knuu> Any Xubuntu users
[23:29] <knuu> ?
[23:29] <Bashing-om> Muchachao: "Rofi requires the following tools and libraries to be installed:" libx11, libxinerama, libxdg-basedir, libxft . Did you 'dpkg' them to see if installed, and those not installed, 'apt-get' them ?
[23:30] <Muchachao> Bashing-om, check'n .
[23:31] <Etale> daftykins, eeee , http://i58.tinypic.com/315bn9h.jpg
[23:31] <liquidFury> hi all
[23:31] <Bashing-om> Muchachao: That would be -> dpkg -l <name> <- .
[23:33] <eeee> Etale: can you take a picture of the Start-up menu?
[23:34] <Etale> http://i57.tinypic.com/w6sio8.jpg
[23:34] <TeraJL> hi there i'm using kubuntu and i have tried to resize my Data disk(sdb), i've set it to resize and Started (using KDE partition manager) but the kde partiton manager froze (i left it working almost one day), and i've forced the pc to restart... but now i can't see my disk, whats the best way to be (the most) sure to recover?
[23:34] <eeee> Also, try this, when the laptop boots, press Esc, do you get a menu? Anything like Boot options?
[23:34] <Jeffrey_f> TeraJL: Are you trying to do that while logged in??
[23:35] <crazybotsmoker> F12 durring boot
[23:35] <Etale> eeee, when I click on "boot" in the "startup" menu I get this: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2rz3tsg&s=8#.U9Q7Ex-Uc_A
[23:35] <Beldar> TeraJL, Are you using standard partitions?
[23:35] <Beldar> or were
[23:35] <TeraJL> Jeffrey_f: yes but i have 2 disks, and the disk i was resize was Data one(only files and it is usually unmounted)
[23:35] <eeee> Etale: try crazybotsmoker's suggestion.
[23:35] <crazybotsmoker> press F12 durring boot
[23:35] <Etale> Okay, am trying.
[23:36] <Etale> I'll upload a pick. Stand by.
[23:36] <TeraJL> Beldar: i was using only one may partition ( ext4 i think i've set it to resize and create a new partition ext4)
[23:36] <TeraJL> *main
[23:36] <svetlana> (reposted from #xorg) "setxkbmap -model pc101 -layout us,ru -option grp:lctrl_lshift_toggle" - this is ok. I tried adding it to /etc/keyboard and rebooting, but it does not pick it up there. How do I save such setting?
[23:37] <Beldar> TeraJL, YOU can't have it resize than build in the space made continuously.
[23:37] <Etale> http://i59.tinypic.com/hrhrnc.jpg
[23:37] <Etale> *pic not pick
[23:38] <crazybotsmoker> is this a windows 8 machine
[23:38] <crazybotsmoker> off the shelf
[23:38] <daftykins> crazybotsmoker: Lenovo laptop, win8, yes
[23:38] <Beldar> crazybotsmoker, preface with that users nick please.
[23:38] <crazybotsmoker> prefacr?
[23:39] <daftykins> crazybotsmoker: if i may, i think i'm already onto the solution. F12 will not help here
[23:39] <Etale> Etale, he means.
[23:39] <Beldar> !who | crazybotsmoker
[23:39] <crazybotsmoker> disable secure boot
[23:39] <eeee> Etale: pick ATA HDD0
[23:39] <Etale> I did.
[23:39] <daftykins> Etale: back in this image, http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2rz3tsg&s=8#.U9Q7eWPvDDd please change item #5 to be item #1
[23:39] <liquidFury> daftykins: and enable legacy boot
[23:39] <daftykins> liquidFury: no legacy boot has nothing to do with this
[23:39] <liquidFury> daftykins: if available
[23:39] <daftykins> liquidFury: i am the helper not the helpee, please do not get confused
[23:39] <liquidFury> daftykins: what is the problem
[23:39] <Beldar> mmmmm Beldar loves a goo uefi pile on.
[23:39] <Beldar> good*
[23:40] <Etale> daftykins, okay, I'll try.
[23:40] <TeraJL> Beldar: i did not understood :/ sorry... what i did was KDE partition manager, decreased the disk space (from the right), clicked on the unallocated and created a new partition, and clicked "apply" but it crashed.. i can still see the sdb1 and unallocated space using the partition manager and the sdb1 as unkown but i'm afraid of making it worst
[23:40] <daftykins> Beldar: :D
[23:40] <Etale> liquidFury, if I change to legacy, even Windows doesn't load.
[23:40] <eeee> Etale: as daftykins suggests, switch the HDD0 to the top of the list.
[23:40] <daftykins> i didn't even realise LiteON did SSDs!
[23:40] <Muchachao> Bashing-om, Bingo. Installed the required packages, no xinerama erorrs anymore. Thank you for your help sir.
[23:40] <Beldar> TeraJL, imagebin a pic of the partitioner.
[23:40] <Etale> Wait, let me first try ATA HDD0 from the F12 thing like eeee suggested.
[23:41] <Etale> Holy smokes, that load GRUB!
[23:41] <liquidFury> Etale: what is the problem
[23:41] <crazybotsmoker> its 99% a UEFI/legacy issue
[23:41] <eeee> ok, do as daftykins suggested and you're all set.
[23:41] <daftykins> Etale: that'll only work for one time, you need to change it to be device #1 to be permanent
[23:41] <daftykins> crazybotsmoker: no, it is not
[23:41] <Beldar> liquidFury, The user has excellent help let them work. ;)
[23:41] <liquidFury> Ok
[23:42] <TeraJL> Beldar: http://imagebin.ca/v/1UhSCBr2Af6A
[23:42] <Etale> daftykins, gotcha. Okay I'll do that. And try to install 12.04 instead of 13.04...
[23:42] <Bashing-om> Muchachao: Great, you do good work !
[23:42] <Etale> I can already see what my next problem will be, btw. wlan0 doesn't show up.
[23:42] <Beldar> TeraJL, So sdb1 was the resize and is now unknown?
[23:42] <Etale> But I'll ask about that in the future...
[23:42] <daftykins> Etale: sure :) that'll change, sure you don't want to go with 14.04 LTS instead? newer support etc.
[23:43] <daftykins> Etale: whilst you're in Windows you could tell us the wifi device
[23:43] <Etale> daftykins, for whatever reason, when I put in the 14.04 disc it gets stuck on the Ubuntu logo...
[23:43] <TeraJL> the sdb1 was the working partition, the one i resized to create a new one... the new one did not got created (right square)
[23:43] <Etale> daftykins, the wifi device is Intel Single Band Wireless 7260BN with Bluetooth 4.0.
[23:44] <Beldar> TeraJL, Did you resize sdb1 while using it, err try to?
[23:44] <Beldar> while mounted
[23:45] <Bisono> hey guys, I need some help. I running an apache server, I want to give privs to another user to the var/www folder but I just want to be able to modify existing php files and thats it, what would be the correct permission for something like this.  Thanks,
[23:45] <TeraJL> Beldar: no, it was not mounted.. i clicked start (unmounted) and it was doing it's thing but for ever ( about 1 full day), i rebooted the pc and it got in that state... i barely use that disk
[23:45] <TeraJL> but i did not wanted to lose it.. it is not even mounted when i start the pc
[23:46] <daftykins> Bisono: modify = read/write so they'd be able to do it all
[23:46] <eeee> Etale: when ubuntu 14.04 loads, is there a tiny man at the bottom?
[23:46] <Pinkamena_D> how to find ALL posts by user (or at least older ones) on ubuntu forums?
[23:46] <Etale> eeee, no.
[23:46] <Pinkamena_D> it will only give me the latest 10
[23:46] <neruda> my 14.04 server vm reverts to the downloaded state everytime i reboot, desktop 14.04 doesnt do this, any suggestions?
[23:46] <Beldar> TeraJL, I would see if you can mount it from a live dvd/usb to get out what you need if there is anything and build a new partition, and check the HD with the smartcheck it is on the live.
[23:46] <daftykins> eeee: that's only in legacy boot i believe. black and white screen for EFI boot mode
[23:47] <Bisono> daftykins, yeah but how? that's where I'm getting confused.
[23:47] <eeee> yeah, it's a long shot, thought it might have something to do with that legacy first option
[23:47] <daftykins> Bisono: right now who owns /var/www ?
[23:47] <eeee> i guess you could install 12.04 and then upgrade
[23:47] <Bisono> root
[23:47] <eeee> since it seems to be a problem with the laptop model not the iso
[23:48] <Etale> eeee, can I just upgrade from 13.04, since that's what I have installed now?
[23:48] <Bisono> I have 2 users on this box me and root, I dont want to mod anything under root I just want to be able to mod files in that dir while being logged under me. if that makes sense.
[23:48] <daftykins> Bisono: is this 14.04 server? if so, /var/www/html is the document root. you're going to need to change the ownership of /var/www/html to be www-data:www-data, then add your user and the other user to the www-data group, then enable group write permissions
[23:49] <daftykins> Bisono: oh, just you... that's not really another user then :) change ownership to www-data:www-data, then add your user to www-data
[23:49] <Bisono> ok, but how. :D I get confused with the chmod & chown commands...
[23:49] <Muchachao> Bashing-om, thank you for the compliment, but without you I was still struggling.
[23:50] <Beldar> Pinkamena_D, try #ubuntuforums
[23:50] <eeee> Etale: i suppose so, daftykins would it be best to upgrade to 14.04 from 13.04 ? instead of installing 12.04 first and then upgrading ?
[23:50] <Beldar> eeee, eol to eol not a good idea
[23:50] <Bashing-om> Muchachao: Nah, just when all else fails, read the instructions.
[23:51] <eeee> Etale: ok, so install 12.04LTS first, then upgrade
[23:51] <Etale> OK. I'll try. Most likely I'm going to have problems with the wifi again, so I'll bug you about that.
[23:52] <daftykins> eeee: i was a little confused as to the status of that modified 13.04 release, i think 12.04 -> 14.04.1 would be easier than 13.04 -> 13.10 -> 14.04.1
[23:52] <daftykins> Etale: i was just looking up wifi support, it seems 12.04 might be awkward for that, do you have wired LAN to upgrade from if so?
[23:53] <Etale> daftykins, I don't understand a lot of the technicalities. I plugged in the telephone cord that goes into the router into the laptop, hoping that it would show up as the eth0. It didn't...
[23:54] <Etale> daftykins, sudo ifconfig eth0 up said something like device not active or something like that...
[23:54] <daftykins> ah, a network cable
[23:54] <Beldar> daftykins, Etale seemed to have a black screen in the 14.04  dvd boot, I think they just need some help there if possible, this is a new area (linux) for them.
[23:54] <daftykins> Etale: can you also see the name of your wired LAN adapter in Windows?
[23:55] <Etale> daftykins, I'll let you know once I'll be in windows.
[23:56] <rocko2_> how do I edit the theme?
[23:56] <rocko2_> I want to change the color of highlighting
[23:56] <obelix_> pffff
[23:56] <obelix_> losers
[23:56] <daftykins> rocko2_: this isn't really IRC support, you'd need to state your client
[23:57] <rocko2_> daftykins I am talking about the system theme
[23:57] <daftykins> no idea then
[23:58] <Beldar> obelix_, When your looking in the mirror it is loser, not losers.
[23:59] <rocko2_> obelix_ is a troll