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xubuntu543Ok01:09
brasileirohi everyone... anyone would happen to know the cause of this error? (firefox:6403): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_structure_new_empty: assertion 'gst_structure_validate_name (name)' failed01:49
svetlanawhen do you get it?01:56
brasileirosvetlana, watching an youtube video..02:04
svetlanadoes the video play properly?02:04
brasileirosvetlana, nop... it lags from time to time02:04
brasileirosvetlana, making peaks of CPU usage and the fan to accelerate and then stop in waves02:05
svetlanaok02:17
brasileirosvetlana, I get this after running gdb on it: http://pastebin.com/erszf0kE02:20
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uniqdomhi02:43
uniqdomi'm trying to install xubuntu in a preinstalled win8 laptop02:44
uniqdomi'm in the partition step in the installation02:44
uniqdomit says that it can't find an operative system... but i still can see windows partitions there02:45
uniqdommay i continue?02:45
uniqdomalso, should i select /dev/sda to installa the bootloader?  i can see /dev/sda2 as efi... i have read somewhere that i need to mount that partition as /boot/efi... is that correct?02:48
uniqdomi can't ese a option to the that last thing02:50
uniqdomsee*02:50
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wilsonjl3heya, i dunno if this is the right place to ask but is there a way to set what gets top bandwith priority?10:56
wilsonjl3bandwidth*10:56
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svetlanaset a bandwidth usage limit on the other apps using whatever means they provide?11:09
wilsonjl3ah no, i mean so my xbox dosnt lag when people decide to steal my wifi11:11
svetlanaset a bw limit on the people stealing your wifi? you might have to do that in the router11:11
wilsonjl3okay, ill try11:12
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ChaseTrainsHi. I just want to know how I can troubleshoot the following issue: when xfce4 just has started and I use any of the keyboard shortcuts, nothing happens until about 30 seconds later (where all the pressed shortcuts are executed all at once). After that, for the rest of the session, shortcuts are executed immediately. It's not HDD/hardware-Busy/CPU-lag. If I start i.e. the webbrowser from the app-menu, it starts12:35
ChaseTrainsimmediately.12:35
ChaseTrainsHow do I find out what application it is that's executing in xfce4 (or any other desktop environment)? Google? If already know the answer, great :D. But I'm mainly asking for the method here.12:43
brainwashChaseTrains: most likely it's bug 123901412:49
ubottubug 1239014 in xfce4-settings (Ubuntu) "xfsettingsd unable to daemonize properly when overlay scrollbars are activated" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123901412:49
brainwash"This results in a delayed execution of keyboard shortcuts pressed by the user within the first ~10 seconds after session login."12:50
ChaseTrainsdude, thanks!12:51
ChaseTrainsI hate that overlay scrollbars anyway.. I thought I had purged it.12:51
brainwashyou can disable them for the xubuntu session12:52
brainwashsee bug 123901812:52
ubottubug 1239018 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Disable overlay scrollbars by default in Xubuntu 13.10" [Undecided,Opinion] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123901812:52
brainwashbut removing them completely is also a valid option :)12:53
ChaseTrainssession saving... it doesn't save the application states, right? But merely starting the software next bootup?12:55
brainwashyes12:58
brainwashand it tries to launch them in the previous workspace if possible and supported12:59
ChaseTrainsseems like the bug you pointed at is due to some problem with dbus https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-volumed/+bug/131478213:07
ubottuUbuntu bug 1314782 in xfce4-volumed (Ubuntu) "multimedia keys don't work when xfce4-volumed is run in daemon mode" [Medium,Triaged]13:07
ChaseTrainsI want to run xfsettingsd as a non-daemon (because of a bug) instead as a daemon (you give it parameters --no-daemon). Can that be done (since only daemon can run in the background)?13:21
ChaseTrainshi. How do I edit the parameters for xfsettingsd? I've tried to edit /etc/xdg[or something]/autostart/xfsettingsd.desktop with no effect. I want to add the --no-daemon argument13:46
ChaseTrainsxfsettingsd is started somehow.. but not via /etc/xdg/autostart/xfsettingsd.desktop . How do I find what's starting it?13:53
Con7eHey mates14:01
Con7eI have a problem with Xubuntu14:01
Con7eEverytime I try to install it, I get on a underscore symbol on restart14:01
Con7eIt's the only distro I've been having problems14:01
Con7ewith14:01
garandilCon7e, how are you installing it? Install media etc?14:07
Con7eVia USB14:07
garandilAnd did you make sure the USB was 100% clean before making the install media?14:08
Con7eWell, the sw itself formats the USB before installing it14:09
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systemfishi just want to restore xfce4/xubuntu settings to default14:50
deshiputhe easiest way is to just create a new user14:58
james0r2systemfish: did you follow the advice in #xfce? works alright for my purpose15:05
systemfishI've probably messed up something weird.. I need to make a new user15:06
cfhowlett!install | cfhowlett15:19
ubottucfhowlett, please see my private message15:19
systemfishI removed .iceautority and was able to login again15:28
ChaseTrainsxfsettingsd is started without the --no-daemon argument in xubuntu, but I want it to be started with that argument. How do I set that? changing /etc/xgd/autostart/xfsettingsd.desktop doesn't change anything16:33
xubuntu206Hola16:42
cfhowlett!es | xubuntu20616:42
ubottuxubuntu206: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.16:42
xubuntu206Soy Colombiano, alguien habla español?16:42
xubuntu206gracias16:43
cfhowlettxubuntu206 de nada16:43
SonikkuAmericacfhowlett: (Yay for being bilingual)16:48
cfhowlettSonikkuAmerica you should hear me speak Mandarin - you'd be horrified and surprised.16:54
SonikkuAmericaYou know Mandarin?16:54
cfhowlettSonikkuAmerica I'm in Beijing and I can say "I don't speak Mandarin."16:54
cfhowlettSonikkuAmerica but this is all OT ..16:55
SonikkuAmericaYeah...16:55
ChaseTrainsis there a script that I can run when the whole system starts? Not .bashrc. I'm going to put "hdparm -y /dev/.." and "hdparm -S /dev/.."  there17:15
ChaseTrainsI'm trying to figure out whether hard disk spin down when idle is bad for the hard disk. Is it?17:32
KageeXubuntu 14.04, freshly installed yesterday, also started happening on 13.10 say a week or so ago: After each boot my keyboard is reset to english layout away from the one that i choose during installation.17:57
sohail-ahmedIs there any python irc channel at freenode?18:48
Unit193##python18:48
Unit193!alis18:48
ubottualis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*18:48
bazhang#python18:48
bazhangneed to be registered iirc18:48
sohail-ahmedthanks!!!18:50
Unit193bazhang: Ah, sorry.  Thanks.18:52
bazhangsorry for?18:53
Unit193Wrong channel.18:53
bazhangI think it redirects18:53
bazhangie ##18:54
Unit193Could, but alis says it has 25 people.18:55
bazhangweird18:55
bazhangpython-unregged is apparently the 50th largest irc channel in the world18:55
bazhangsorry for the offtopic!18:56
wilsonjl3is there a program or something that can kick people off my wifi19:18
bazhangencryption19:19
wilsonjl3it is encrypted19:19
bazhanghow19:19
wilsonjl3password19:19
wilsonjl3long-ass password19:19
bazhangwpa2?19:19
wilsonjl3yeah19:20
bazhangand they cracked it?19:20
nikolamjust set password on router.19:20
wilsonjl3no they were given the password but im trying to skype my GF and she's using all the badwidth19:20
nikolamuse powers of router manual :P19:20
wilsonjl3ahaha dunno where the manual is :P19:20
bazhangreset the router, change the pass19:21
nikolamyou can only kick them19:21
nikolamwho's she?19:21
wilsonjl3i dunno my router's ip thingy to get into it19:21
wilsonjl3my sister -.-19:21
nikolamOh,19:21
wilsonjl3she is living with me for a bit19:21
wilsonjl3and she dosnt listen. at all.19:21
bazhangthere's a web address typically19:22
nikolamyou can buy better router that have load balancing or see in router manual how it balance load19:22
bazhang192.168.1.119:22
wilsonjl3yeah, but the one that is supposed to work on my router dosnt19:22
wilsonjl3ill try that ^19:22
Unit193Tomato or dd-wrt might work, good QoS in both.19:22
nikolamor you can put another wired router in front of that wireless router that share bandwith better19:22
nikolamI recomment Mikrotik router19:23
wilsonjl3are tomato and dd-wrt programs?19:23
nikolamIt also has loads of options, multiple wan ports, VPN, uses management app that also run with wine19:24
wilsonjl3i dont have the money for a modem19:24
brasileirowilsonjl3, change the password, or even better, only allow your MAC Address to connect on the router19:24
nikolamdd is firmware for compatible router, with open linux inside, like distribution for routers. see in dd-wrt database what routers are compatible19:24
brasileirowilsonjl3, almost every router has this firewall option... just look at the 192.168.1.119:24
nikolambrasileiro, but he must allow user to continue using network, cutting out is not solution19:25
wilsonjl3says web page is not available when i do that one ^19:25
brasileironikolam, don't think there's a solution then...19:26
nikolamsee router manual , router model and does it have QoS to turn on or something similar19:26
brasileironikolam, he could make himself a router and then share bandwidth or make it on the router19:27
nikolambrasileiro, he can use another router, before wireless one, to shape traffic19:27
wilsonjl3siemens gigaset se56719:27
wilsonjl3^ thats it19:27
brasileironikolam, he doesn't can buy a router19:27
nikolamwhy not19:28
brasileironikolam, no money19:28
wilsonjl3no money :P19:28
nikolamyou can always find routers almost for free on ebay. Also every computer with 2 LAN ports can be a router19:29
nikolamand people throw away computers in trash all the time19:29
brasileirowilsonjl3, configure your ubuntu machine to be a router and share bandwidth as you like best... your wifi card might do the trick... http://xpressrazor.wordpress.com/2013/04/21/use-your-laptop-as-a-wifi-router-under-linux/19:30
brasileirowilsonjl3, only way i can think of without spending any more money19:30
wilsonjl3ohh19:30
wilsonjl3it only has one lan port, would it work?19:31
wilsonjl3and can i still use it as a comp after?19:31
brasileirowilsonjl3, it's not wifi?19:31
wilsonjl3yes?19:31
wilsonjl3oh19:31
wilsonjl3lol nvm19:31
brasileirowilsonjl3, you disable the wifi thing on the router and connect it to your machine via cable19:32
brasileirothen your machine becomes a wifi router19:32
wilsonjl3i cant get into it to disable that19:32
brasileirowilsonjl3, you can read about it =)19:32
brasileirothat's probably the solution... you can figure out how to make it work19:32
wilsonjl3ok19:33
nikolamwilsonjl3, how fast internet link do you have?19:47
nikolamIf you have more then 10Mbit link, you can choose wireless settings on router, to limit wireless speed to 10Mbit only. (802.11b) and then she couldn't take more bandwith then that19:47
nikolamat least not more download speed.19:48
nikolamAlso that residential gateway is old, from 200719:48
wilsonjl3slow :p19:48
nikolamalso you could maybe find some wireless router, put is in LAN port of gateway router and set it with lowers peed to share wireless connection, and then turn off gigaset wireless19:49
nikolamif you use internet over cable LAN with your computer, you can maybe put wireless router in tinfoil, to make it have lousy reception, and therefore lower speed :P19:52
nikolamwilsonjl3, :P19:53
wilsonjl3haha19:53
nikolamand spare some money to buy normal wireless router with QoS, then put it on LAn port of Gateway and turn off gateway's wireless.20:02
nikolamat the end of line, you can always compain for the problem with your internet provider.20:03
nikolamThey mostly would be glad to throw you off their backs, by giving you better router  that does not allow sucing up all bandwith over wireless20:03
nikolamI suggest oyu buy Mikrotik, since it is decent solution and bandwith can be shared precisely between users by mac address etc20:05
nikolamwilsonjl3,20:05
Guido1I have an external drive which makes some sound, but except for that it works just fine. How can I find out if I should replace the drive anyway? Right now I'm running GSmartControl20:05
wilsonjl3i have no money for that :P and sorry20:05
nikolamuse SMART drive information to see what is state of drive20:06
nikolamwilsonjl3, they are in line of just 5 eur or something like that used to find, or something like that20:06
wilsonjl3my drived?20:06
wilsonjl3drives*20:06
wilsonjl3oh20:07
wilsonjl3thats cheap lol20:07
nikolamyou just need it to have QoS on that wireless router (usually one wan and 4 LAn ports) and you are set20:09
wilsonjl3it has that i think20:10
nikolamyes, but That device is also modem, problem is it is old device, please also consult your service provider with a problem20:10
wilsonjl3ah ok20:11
nikolamyes, but problem is it is dumb. you need another that is just a bit more clever, behind it :P20:11
wilsonjl3aha ok20:11
wilsonjl3makes sense i guess :P20:11
nikolamwhere do you live, btw wilsonjl320:13
wilsonjl3Canada, EH? :P20:13
wilsonjl3why?20:18
ChaseTrainsI want to spin down a secondary disk. Settings->disks->standby timeout setting-> 5 seconds .. I've hdparm -S1 /dev/.. as well. Doesn't matter if it's mounted or not, disk does not spin down. The only thing that works is to unmount it and run hdparm -Y (or -y) /dev/..   How do you do this in xubuntu in a sensible fashion?20:21
xubuntudebhello, sorry for the question. Do you know if exist a script to apply to debian, for look like xfce as xubuntu?20:22
ChaseTrainssomething is repeatedly activating my secondary harddisk.. not letting it sleep (spin down). How do I figure out what that is? It's an empty secondary disk.20:24
xubuntudebChaseTrains: apt-get install htop20:26
xubuntudebhtop20:26
xanguawhat's diferent between xfce in debian and ubuntu¿ debian still uses xfce 4.10 or something¿20:30
xubuntudeb4.8 in debian stable20:30
xubuntudebbut, what theme use xubuntu?20:31
xanguammmm can't remember right now but I think it's mentioned in xubuntu.org20:32
xanguaOh the site is diferent now, now I'm lost :P20:32
xubuntudebno problem xangua, thank you20:33
nikolamyou can always check versions of packages at packages.ubuntu.com ...20:34
xanguait's greybird xubuntudeb20:34
xubuntudebthankyou very much xangua20:34
xanguabut I like to use ambiance and ubuntu mono icons :P20:34
xubuntudeb: )20:35
nikolamI just learned that just 30.000 years ago, level of world oceans was lower by 130Meters or something and we got continental glaciers. WOW.20:38
nikolamhttp://xkcd.com/1225/20:42
nikolamHi MOntreal, under 3.3Kilometers of ice, in just 19.000BC...20:43
ChaseTrainsHi. I've been googling my bottom off, and still can't understand why jbd2 (journaling) is writing to my empty secondary disk every 3-5 sec, or how to disable that (let the disk be untouched for hours since I don't want it to spin up). Ideas? One option is to just let it spin.. but it's noisy when the rest of the computer is pretty much free of mechanics.21:50
KageeWhen i hold Alt and scroll on the mouse, my whole desktop zoomes. Anyone got any idea or documentation on what does that?22:27
KageeXubuntu 14.04, relativly fresh install, newest nvidia binary drivers installed from nvidia.com22:28
Unit193Kagee: Yeah, that's expected and a feature of Xfwm4.22:29
KageeAhh, thanks. I WTFed.22:44
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